The Toast - Ameliorating Grudges with Lindsay Hubbard: Tuesday, September 10th, 2024

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast, and happy Tuesday that feels like a Friday, honestly, because we're fucking celebrating, bitch. Like, we have so much going on today. What is the cause to celebrate today? Lindsay Hubbard on The Toast, Hub House, X Toast, X, uh, yeah. Hub House, X Toast House, yes. Secrets out. Lindsay Hubbard is on The Toast.

Our inaugural guest, now that we're bringing back guests we took a major break from having guests on the show like I think part of it was strategic it's really nice to have our like from a business perspective have people tune in every single day for us not like certain episodes do way better because of a guest like I think we really nailed it and I also think you get to a point where it's like you have guests on because you feel like you have to then you're talking to people like you you really aren't interested in and it doesn't make for interesting conversation I also feel like we stopped having guests um in tandem with COVID because it was like everyone was doing zoom interviews and it's like okay technically like any celebrity they're not working right now they

can sit down for a zoom interview so it's like when you can have anyone do you want anyone and then everyone was doing that and the quality of zoom interviews was just like not you couldn't get to the heart of the matter so we just were like you know what it's not the time but now it feels like the time especially since we have our remote set up like really down pat and I think we were a little nervous about having like one of the hosts come in remotely but like especially when it's the host who like can't get a word in in person so we are so excited to be back and better than ever. We recorded another interview yesterday. And Claudia really held space for me. I did. I did. And we have Lindsay Hubbard on the

show today. If you're looking for it, it will be at the end of this episode. Video and audio, it'll be one big file. So we're going to do the fast five, of course. Not the files. Yeah, not the files. We're going to do a little pre-fast five banner, you know, the usual stuff. And then at the end of the episode, we've got a nice chunky little interview with Lindsay Hubbard, who was talking all about she literally just got out of the house. Labor Day is when they stopped filming. So she's fresh off the heels of filming that season. She's pregnant.

She has a lot going on. We need to catch up with her from last season. So it was really good. One thing about us, like we don't forget our grudges. And I feel like we had so many lingering questions and frustrations from last season. And Lindsay really helped to ameliorate them. So I feel ameliorated. I don't know about you.

You know the word ameliorate like means a lot to me, right? Yes, of course. It's like it is the one SAT word that stuck with me. Like during all those like flashcard programs, like I learned one word. Ameliorate. Yeah. And actually, should I say or everybody knows why I like the word ameliorate? and actually I don't should I should I say or everybody knows why I like the word ameliorate maybe you should say it we definitely have some new toasters especially

if they're tuning in for Lindsay today okay so when I was like in the 11th grade taking the SATs I downloaded this app it was like SAT word of the day and it would really help you learn words and it would give you little mnemonic devices and the only one that I ended up remembering was ameliorate because seriously the mnemonic device they gave was so unbelievably offensive. They were like ameliorate, you know, Amelia, ameliorate means to improve. So, um, they give a mnemonic device about this woman named Amelia who ate a lot and she needed to lose weight to ameliorate her health. Like it was so fucking fat phobic. And honestly, they should make all of them really offensive like put slurs in there because you know what I remember effective the amelioration was effective and also if you

are listening for Lindsay today and this is your first time stumbling onto the toast like hey how you doing I'm Jax that's Claude we are sisters 100% sisters we host the Toast It's A Daily podcast we have a lot of fun we are incredibly thirsty like seriously couldn't be more excited to have you here oh of course but also just a little intro I feel like do you ever see people on Instagram they have a pinned video at the top of their feed and it's like an intro video to their Instagram and I'm like thank you so much I have a complicated relationship with pinned content honestly I. I have a, okay, agreed. I don't like pinned content unless it is a trailer for your page and you are introducing me to you, how old you are,

what you do for a living, how many kids you have, what I can expect to see on your channel. I don't even like it there. It's like, it's so great. I don't have to do like a year's worth of digging. I only think it's really necessary when someone's going crazy viral, like from a reality show. Like, oh, and you know what's speaking up?

You know who I unfollowed this morning like my time is up who Freddie from love is blind UK like wow that was two minutes no like I'm still following people from the bachelor from 10 years ago I actually do but they are premium content creators and they're girls like no it's hard for me to follow a straight man I went to unfollow a straight man like from the bachelor a million years ago yesterday. And I just like, couldn't bring myself to do it. Tell us who,

tell us who. Well, I, I feel awkward. Like, because I was going to unfollow. No, I feel awkward that I was even going to unfollow.

There's nothing wrong with this person. I'm just like, of course not. Your content no longer served you. No, but it's like nice content. It's just like, he not your content no longer served you no but it's like nice content it's just like he's off living a normal life like he's graduated from this program you have to say who it is it was it was Ben Zorn who Ben Z remember Ben Z you really need to come

through your following and like do that's really crazy oh um yeah no I'm not like you like once you're followed like you're in you're in the book of following like unless you offend me oh no I'm really like loosey-goosey with it people come into my life for a reason or a season it's not it's not that deep you know he has a wife I think he has two kids and I was just like I can't do it so So you still follow Benzie. That's so crazy. We're very different in that way. Beyond like when I'm done with someone, like their time is up in my book. And if you made it through the cracks after all these years, like it probably was a mistake.

But it's like when I am starting a new reality show, I don't follow a lot of people because it is a big commitment for me. But maybe if I looked at it like you, where it's like, oh, I could follow them until I'm no longer interested in this person. But I don't't know I don't see it that way for me like it's a binding contract yeah well not not for me so Freddie rip I'll let you know if he's doing anything that you should know about I still follow Freddie speaking of men um you know today was a big day for one Romeo Jr. he was headed to the vet for his neutering. Very tough for me and Ben, especially Ben.

He's grown extremely attached to Romeo's nuts. And of course, he woke up this morning like with diarrhea and couldn't get neutered. So the nuts live to see another day. Romeo's protecting himself. His body is protecting himself against big pet. His body like went into like shock and did what it needed to do to to hang on well speaking

of the boys Bruno it's the big day he's getting groomed transition video coming soon wait in no I'm gonna weigh him in maybe tomorrow I'm really excited he's been on his grind on his fitness grind so I'm very excited about that we've got a booked and busy day here at my house it already started guess what I did this morning something I said I was gonna do work out well no because I do that something that I hadn't done that I said I was gonna do and I did it I met with a tailor this morning she went to the tailor the tailor came here because the toasters came through and sent me some recs for an at-home tailor. That's so good. It's so important to have your clothes tailored to all of your needs.

No, and it made me start looking at my entire closet. Like one thing that I don't even notice because I couldn't deal with it if I did notice are the lengths of my sleeves. Okay, so that's what I was saying. I came out in a pair of pants for the tailor to tailor and I put on a shirt with it so that she could see like how I would style it and she immediately was like so we're doing the sleeves I was like oh no I I didn't even think of that and that's what I was saying last week about like learning to sew because yeah we think about like

big things like wedding dresses needed tail but everybody's bodies are so different and I actually was this was I wasn't watching the news the news was on in my presence and I actually heard that jobs where you have like those traditional skills like the blacksmith welding seamstressing are so like not popular that they're really high in demand and you're making more money like as a mechanic than you are as like a marketer and these skills are so valuable and and we're underappreciated I we need to learn how to sew I know I said I was gonna do it and I didn't even think about it after the toast. I'm going to learn to sew. But then, so she was like,

do you want me to do the sleeves? And I was like, no offense. This sweater's like from Abercrombie. Like it doesn't deserve the tailoring. It will cost more than the sweater itself. So I also feel like fast fashion has kind of put some of that on the back burner because it's like,

why would I spend more to fix the garment than I spent to pay for it? 1000%. And also seamstressing is expensive in general. Like, yeah, no, only my, my finest wares that could really benefit from a facelift. It's so true. But now like I'm about to start getting my sweatpants tailored. Like watch out world.

Watch out. Well, once I learned how to sew, I'm about to start sewing my own sweatpants. I've got, I've got a tailor. So it's over for you, bitches. It's kind of been over. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. S-R-Y.

Did you watch some TV last night? I watched Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Did you watch any? No, I watched just first Niners. Oh, I had a thought. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I'm like, I think I'm on episode five. It's a really wild ride.

And what's hard for me with a new reality show is like, I don't have my people yet. So I don't know where I stand in certain arguments because I don't know what these people are about. Like Whitney was wrong here, but is she right? Mostly same for Demi who everything's falling into place. Like ever since you told me about Whitney's RSV video, like that has changed everything. Like everything has changed. Whitney being the girl in that viral video with her baby in the NICU, for me, she will

always be wrong in every argument heretofore and from now on. She obviously is a person with incredibly bad judgment, bad taste. I will never, ever ride for her. And you know who I will ride for? Who? Jessie, who's definitely not a main character. She's not one of the OG four, and I'm sure you don't even know who she is. No, I do. I know, by the way, proud to say, I can tell them all apart OG four and I'm sure you don't even know who she is no I do I know by the way proud to say I could tell them

all apart now and I could okay that's good well Jessie somebody sent me one of her reels she was wearing like pretty recent toast merch like obsessed I sent it to you that was before I could tell them apart so like I couldn't Queenie Queenie behavior oh that's so great to know Queenie behavior and then also what Whitney brought up the RSV video on the show Claudia oh my god she brought up the RSV video because everyone's saying it's like Whitney versus Taylor and they're all saying like Whitney is just so jealous of Taylor because she's just like more followers more clout like she's she's that girl and like Whitney tries she may she's always like number two um and Whitney was like I'm only jealous of the fact that like people forgave you for like the

swinging scandal much quicker than they have forgiven me for the RSV video they're two totally different things one is forgivable and one is not one is forgivable and one is like like your problem like okay swinging it's a little you know it's a personal choice it's a little wild but like at least it's like salacious in a good way. Right. At least you're like doing something crazy with your husband. And like, no, it's like it's that's like classic, you know, fodder. It's consensual. There's nothing wrong with it.

It's just different strokes. I would never do it, but there's literally nothing wrong with it. Dancing through RSV with the baby in the hospital right beside you. If you had been in another room, even like it would have been. But to put the baby on, like it's because you, like the girl said, we're doing it for like sympathy,

likes and cloud and to like grow your follower, but people would like think of you as this victim. And like, you just like victim too close to the sun. And it's so, so crazy. But then I was watching more of Whitney's content. She's a really good content creator.

She goes viral a lot. She's a really good dancer. Like her and her husband do those dances and like she crushes it. That's hilarious. So barring RSV video, like I could see how she like got a lot of followers. I do see that.

Right, right, right, right. I was not able to watch because my two teams were playing each other's, the Niners versus Jets. So there's not much to chat about. Jets versus Sharks. Jets versus Sharks. Not much to chat about.

Obviously the Niners won, but Aaron there's not much to chat about. Jets versus Sharks. Jets versus Sharks not much to chat about obviously the Niners won but Aaron Rodgers did play the whole game. He scored 19 points which is like a lot but yeah but the Niners are just better so I was happy for everyone but I was then like just watching football stuff and have you heard about the Guardian caps? I have not heard about the Guardian caps. So they're a new thing being offered to players totally optional to just put over your helmet. It kind of is like the material, I feel, like of a do-rag, but it has like elastic. So it just like snaps onto the cap and it has these pads in it. And it's meant to absorb a lot of like the contact when your head hits the ground.

It's, of course, you know, supposed to make playing safer and counteract CT, obviously. Two players have worn it, literally two. And each of them are like making so much news. And I saw this video of like J.J. Watt, and I'm never one to like, you know, say anything negative about J.J. Watt because he's a king, but like it was really lame. It was giving like paid endorser of the NFL. Because I guess if they admit that this is safer, then it's an admission of guilt that in the past they haven't been protecting the players from CTE, which we all know to be true, right?

Yes, yes. And J.J. Watt is an official NFL correspondent, so he obviously has to be careful. So they made a TikTok. He's on CBS or whatever, and CBS was like, what do you think about this first player? I don't know what team he was on. I think it was the Green Bay Packers. He's the first one being spotted wearing one. Like, what do you think?

And J.J. Watt was like, well, you know, if it makes him feel safer, that's great. And, I mean, I wouldn't wear it. First of you know if it makes him feel safer that's great and I mean I wouldn't wear it first of all if it makes you feel safer no it's facts like it makes it safer is it does it I don't see how like a little cushion's gonna be what more protective than the helmet you have to see it it has it looks like um I can't explain it kind of like a turtle just if you look up a picture, you'll see. I could see it helping. And by the way, like, why not? Literally, why not?

If you're a player, why wouldn't you? Well, because they're making it like a losery badge. That's why. Yeah, like the other guys are like, listen, we're out here. Like we're risking CTE. I heard Jason Kelsey talk about it once where he was like, even if you told me going into it, like CTE is a risk, but like you will get

to play like the game of a lifetime make more money like blah blah like I would I would still sign up I think a lot of players would still sign up but the issue is like the NFL then has this liability if they do admit that it is a risk the issue is that also a lot of the players who risk the most concussions they they're not Jason Kelsey. You know, they don't get $100 million contracts. They're like, you know, they make a good living and they're not famous. Like they, you know, the jobs where you like go head on,

you're not the star, you're not the quarterback, you're not the making the touchdowns. So you're not as famous as Jason. So yeah, Jason Kelsey, if I knew, of course. But I do think at this point, like all football players know that CTE is a risk and they sign up taking that risk on because they love the game it pays well and this is their chosen career

I don't think if the NFL admitted it it wouldn't even I don't think it would change participation levels at all no it just puts liability on them and Matthew Stafford's wife Kelly's talks about this too about like the the grass that they play on being like fake turf. If they make it real grass, it also helps absorb so much impact if your head hits the ground because it's like a little bouncy, not just like ground and then a little fake turf. And so there are things that can be done, like the guardian caps, like changing the grass that really aren't like a big deal at all. And they refuse to do it because it will then sort of admit all this time

that there was stuff that they could be doing and they weren't doing it. But like, it's never too late. I think it's time. Yeah, just admit it. Just admit it. Like there was a movie about it. We know. Like fix it as much as you possibly can and play ball.

Play ball. And let every player like know the risk, know what they're getting into, which I do feel like at this point they do. But I mean, because if we're talking about it, we just arrived on the scene a month ago. A mere moment. So yeah, I do feel like the jig is up.

The jig is up. Like, secret's out. We all have our demons, you know? We all have skeletons in our closet. NFL, this is yours. You'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah.

So you were telling me that we have like five stories, but each story has a subset of course. Each story has layers. I love that. There's kind of like, and it's not surprising because everyone is back, right? Summer's over. There have been so much. So there has been so much going on and there have been so many stories that it's been just such a delight to chat about. Yeah, for sure. So would you like to get into this delightful chat? Yeah. I mean, you have anything else you want to say? I mean, I could continue to recap Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but without you having watched it. I know. I know. I'll watch more tonight.

Yeah. So that's just like where I'm at. But I just want to let everyone know where I've landed right now is like team Demi. That's where I believe I am. Oh, okay. Also, you were mentioning yesterday that there was a lot of conversation around the perfect couple and the title sequence of them dancing and how nobody wanted to do it. And after you said that, my phone must have heard you because I got served with so many interviews from Liev Schreiber, Nicole Kidman, and Bono's daughter about the WhatsApp group and how nobody wanted to do it. And apparently the only one who was like so down was Liev Schreiber.

Further proving like he's a king. Yeah. And then they left him out of the hug like something's weird and he did an interview and they were like where he the person was like were you a part of this famous whatsapp chat where everybody was calling their managers about doing the musical and he was like no no I was so down and they cut me out of the whole thing and it's true he's like literally not even in it I got the vibe when everyone was doing interviews like they kind of hated this project Nicole Kidman on the on the red carpet when she was asked about this too,

she just felt not rude, but like short. Like she didn't want to be here. I feel like, I don't know, I get like a bad vibe from- Maybe they saw the final project and they were like, oh, this is bad. Like we should kind of like minimize our attachment to it. Yeah.

Yeah. That I could understand that. And I have no proof. This is just purely vibes. Like did anybody else watch, you know, some of them were on Good Morning America. Then there was a big red carpet for the premiere. And I'm just seeing a lot of content. And I'm like, does everyone hate each other?

Like, that's the vibe. Or the show and they're feeling embarrassed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you should. It's a piece of shit. Yeah. And it's not any one person's fault.

Like, it was a collective failure. Excluding Megan Fahey and Liev Schreiber. For sure. But like, it was a failure in writing. It was a for sure but like it was a failure in writing it was a failure in direction it was a failure in acting it was a failure in accent concealment it was a that's what they call dialect it was also a failure in

location scouting oh somebody said and I thought that they're right the house looks familiar they think it's in the summer I turned pretty whose house and you know what I don't know like maybe there's a party at like some fancy person's house maybe where does the summer They think it's in The Summer I Turned Pretty. Whose house? And you know what? I don't know. Like maybe there's a party at like some fancy person's house. Like season one or two.

Where does The Summer I Turned Pretty film? That's a good question. Probably the same place. Maybe. Whatever. I'm glad somebody thought the same thing as me. They probably have good like filming licensing over there. And they encourage TV to come and film. Production.

Production. The Summer I turned 30. Filming location. Thank you. Nope. Carolina Beach in Wilmington. Well that's where people said if we buy a beach house we need to buy one. Okay yeah. That's the correct vibe. Thank you. Okay, so. Now, without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Skims. How fabulous is that? We are just girlies that need to wear bras.

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Thank you, T-U-R-T. And welcome. Our first story, some royal news. Kate Middleton reveals she has finished chemo, says the last nine months have been incredibly tough. So Kate Middleton has finished her chemotherapy treatment and she is sharing personal details about her journey since being diagnosed with cancer earlier this year. So yesterday, right after the toast, of course.

Of course. Like literally mere moments. She released an emotional video message filmed near her family's home in Norfolk last month. It features her husband and her three children. So it's notable for a number of reasons. She says, one, as the summer comes to an end, I cannot tell you what a relief it is to finally have completed my chemotherapy treatment. The last nine months have been incredibly tough for us as a family. Life, as you know, can change in an instant, and we have had to find a way to navigate the stormy waters and road unknown. The cancer journey is complex,

scary, and unpredictable for everyone, especially those closest to you. With humility, it also brings you face-to-face with your own vulnerabilities in a way you have never considered before, and with that, a new perspective on everything. so in the video she shares um vignettes of her husband and her children very very cute and homey and affectionate which we don't typically get from her and wills yes there was like kissing there was like handling there was you know touchy yeah which like for normal people is not a big deal at all but like this might have well had been rated r yeah rated r for them but i guess it's like that's it's private moments like this is how they are you know not in front of the camera but it was really cute and it was really sweet i feel like they

really fed the people who have been looking for them there was just like a lot to rejoice about of course like her being cancer free but also just seeing them all together like we have missed them we're trying to be patient over here of course of course we have and it was you know for me fabulous to see her hair looked really fat really intact really strong really good yeah she looks you know she looks really well and happy and I she looks strong I I hope it's all on the up from here for her yeah Yeah, it was a really beautiful video giving Twilight, you know, energy in the woods and the kids. And, you know, how much she loves amateur photo photography. It was good.

Obviously, I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, of course, because what, you know. What are they saying about this? Nothing, nothing. What did we learn, though? Like, to shut our mouths. I just feel like they never give us much and the fact that they're giving us so much like are they trying to distract us from something because I totally forgot Charles is also dealing with like a major health issue

yeah but it wasn't as major as this for some reason for some reason I don't know like I think just the type of cancer is more manageable and I think they caught it like incredibly early than what she was going through and and an easier perhaps course of treatment but I don't think this is a distraction from anything I think it's just been like nine months of like people have been waiting and they appreciate everyone's patience because I do think like once they made the announcement everyone really like backed off fucked off yeah tight and I had to been waiting for this. So I just feel like they, they want,

they have millions, billions of fans across the world. Like they've just wanted to give them something. No. And they gave us a lot. The kids, that Charlotte is just gorgeous. And also like,

that's what the modern day requires, right? Like every other celebrity couple. A montage. Gives us like videos and all these behind the scenes, personal moments. Like the Royal family can only give us so much but I do think they want to play that game a little bit it's kind of akin to when

we saw in the crown how Prince Philip like brought in the documentarians like this is a version of it like oh we're making content today yeah and you know I felt like it was really genuine especially like the romantic moments between them and there have long been rumors that their marriage like hit the rocks recently and he was you know having some sort of whatever but I felt like it was really genuine and even if they had had some sort of bump in their marriage which is really normal and I think not a big deal something like this really puts you back on track it makes you so appreciate this person like being faced to face with this horrible disease and the potential of death like it really puts everything into perspective and I feel like they're actually in a really good place.

And that's just all the vibes that I got from the video. It just, it felt really genuine. These aren't actors. Like they're not professional actors. Right. And if she, like if they weren't feeling like lovey-dovey, they could have so gotten away with like not giving us affection. And we'd just be like, oh, that's Will and Kate and they're respecting protocol.

Of course. And it's like more about the kids. Right. You don't need to be making out in front of all the children. Right. So it was nice. I feel happy for them and I'm going to continue leaving her alone. And then like part two of royal news is that Netflix has dropped their first look at Prince Harry's polo docuseries including a title and release month. What do you mean? A journey, a documentary about his journey with polo or just like the sport? I think he is hosting a documentary about the sport and it's called Polo in caps and it will premiere in December. I want to say like if you're going to make a documentary about polo,

like amazing that you got Prince Harry to host it for you. What won't he do? He is so low brow. I'm sorry. I fucking hate him. Yeah. I feel like this is a great. What's next? Cupcake Wars? Like for real? For real.

This is a great get for Netflix because like I could see some lower tier royal hosting a show like this and be like, oh, look at them. Like they got a Marques. That's what he is now. They got a prince. Yeah. I'm sorry. He is a royal for hire now. He is a royal for hire now he is a royal for hire royal for hire 25 cents Megan is so particular about like her public appearances her projects like everything she does

has like that royal element to it I don't feel like she's even close to being as like washed out as Prince Harry is with the three books it's like enough I can't like I and maybe it's just I'm biased because I've really come to love her and fucking hate him yeah so maybe I see it through this lens but I think he's like tacky and disgusting and she's a queen like to me she's more royal than he is you're tacky and I hate you she she acts more royal than him well I feel like right now we're not hearing a lot from her because like she's putting it all into a aro which I saw she like can't get a trademark for or something she might have to change the name to American Riviera Orchard from American Rarie and you know

what it's for the best because I can't even pronounce it and I also I guess that would be like a hard thing to trademark because it's the American Riviera Orchard. It's the Catalina wine mixer. Right, right. So yeah, Polo, if you're interested in the sport, it drops in December on Netflix. It's a documentary that follows elite global players and offers an exclusive behind the scenes look at the fast paced world of the sport. From Archwell Productions and Boardwalk Pictures. You know he got that Archwell in there. He's like, you want me to host? Call it Archwell. Because now it looks less tacky because he's also a producer yeah but as we know about producing like really anybody it's a job in name only anybody can get in there and i feel like from a netflix perspective they've done a lot of these right it's kind of like um break point where they

followed all those they have they've done it with golf they've done it with uh tennis so polo while it's not something I know anything about I think for some people there's like they have their favorite polo players so yeah that's great from a Harry perspective seriously stop but he can't he has to provide for his family I feel like she provides more than him but I feel like he feels called to provide for them like and protect them. And he's going to like sell seriously every last story that he has to do so. No, I feel like he's taking bags out of Megan's closet and hawking them at porn, porn, pawn shops, pawn shops just to make ends meet.

That's how he's acting. Yeah. But I feel like he will do anything to like make money because like he feels like he owes it to them because he kind of like mismanaged everything yeah and you know I respect that in a husband you know wanting to be a provider I do um but you're also you have an image to maintain and the better you maintain your image the more opportunity you'll have to make money for a longer period of time and I just feel like he's sort of throwing everything at a rate like this you get so overexposed in a matter of years and people are not and as a royal you obviously have a little bit more than the average

celeb but I don't know he's really bothering me yeah well our next story some celeb news Rachel Zoe announces a divorce from her husband Roger Berman after 26 years of marriage oh my god I was this is shocking especially because Rachel was out not to make it about us but she was just top of mind because we went to an event that she was hosting and it just I like was then looking at her Instagram I was like looking at her and Roger and I was like oh my gosh like they're have such a great family and marriage and and they always have like through her show like that was always like truly a power couple business partners life partners like I I was

reaffirmed in their love just weeks ago so for it to happen now is like really kind of shook me no it did and also I forget about the time where like her tv show on Bravo the Zoe project like was so like a part of my life I loved that show and so much of about of it was about her marriage and she was this really talented fashion girly stylist and he was integral in making her company huge right beyond just being a celebrity stylist she has like a publication now she has I think clothing he is like a businessman and so it was really amazing to see two people who loved each other so much they were always like poking fun at each other they had a really fun marriage then they had kids and I just like this was and uh great great Jews you know yeah this is a loss for the. This is a loss for the community.

This is a loss for the community. And so she put out a statement saying after 33 years together and 26 years married, Roger and I have come to the mutual decision to end our marriage. We are incredibly proud of the loving family we have created and our countless memories together. Our number one priority has been and will always be our children. We are committed to co-parent our boys and to continue to work together within the many businesses we share we ask for privacy during this time as we navigate this chapter my number one feeling here shock and awe like I was surprised yeah and I do really hope that it is amicable one of course primarily for the children but also like the

business element like how do you even go about splitting those things up I think it's better if you don't yeah and I think some people end up staying together maybe they would have gotten divorced a while ago but because there's so much at stake I don't know just when you're together for 33 years I forget about you you know I don't even think about the volatility will they won't they you like put them on a shelf and you're like yeah congratulate congrats grad. I'm devastated and really, really shocked

and I'm wishing them both nothing but the best. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story? Multi-part because Beyonce is on the cover

of GQ. Okay. Talking about the business of being Beyonce Knowles-Carter. It's a great interview. The photos are

gargi-pargi. Check it out on GQ St stands near you. But Beyonce is also making headlines because the CMA Awards nominations came out and she did not get a nomination for any award. And that is wrong. Yeah. It's wrong. First of all, the album, obviously music is subjective, but I think we can all agree like it was really a beautiful work of art. And I feel like she paid so much homage and so much respect to like the legacy of country music and I think sometimes people like will release country music and this happened with like Kacey

Musgraves right like it was she was a country album then we listened to it like it actually wasn't you know so I think there are even people within country who get nominated for stuff and their music is like kind of not even country it's pop I think for a lot of the girls they like straddle between and sometimes they make music that doesn't even sound country. So Beyonce sounded country. She worked with country artists, country producers. She sampled famous country songs. Like it was country. You can't even deny that it was country. And it was amazing. And it was popular. When you compare it sales-wise to like other popular country music, she was up there with the best of them so many of the songs had huge mainstream success like tiktok you know how you have to

play the game this ain't texas like there's i cannot give you one good reason why she wouldn't have been nominated not nominated for one thing like it's it's very much a choice because i feel like an argument can be made like maybe she didn't get the nomination for album of the year like let's look at the other albums. Maybe they were stronger. Right, right. For one single, like Texas told them to not be nominated for a song. Not a songwriting credit. Not a music video.

Not a nothing. Like it very much felt like the CMAs like intentionally wanted to shut her out and like make this point. I don't know what point that they're making. Well, she had said that so much of the reason why she wanted to release this album was based on this experience she had performing with was it the chicks at the cmas so i feel like they wanted to stick it to her i seriously don't know because now everyone jumps to the conclusion well she's a black woman they're leaving her out because she's black, right? That's like a logical thought for a lot of people.

Yeah, that's probably like one theory that people have. And so CMAs, explain yourself. Like seriously, give me one good reason why that's not the reason. Yeah. Because I seriously cannot, I cannot give one logical thought or explanation as to why she would not be included.

Yeah, unless they like didn't think. How many of the songs went popular? Like the Miley song? Really? No, I mean like Texas Hold'em should have been nominated for a single of the year let's talk about what the single of the year nominations were 16 carriages like so good I'm sorry and like some of these singles of the year and I'm a big fan of country music I don't know them hit me so a bar song shaboozy that should win well for That should be the winner. And I'll be upset if it's not the winner. Dirt Cheat by Cody Johnson. I don't know it.

I don't know it. I Had Some Help post Malone and Morgan Wallen. Great choice. Watermelon Moonshine by Lainey Wilson. Okay, I know it. And you know what? Everyone's going to say I'm like a woman hater because I'm always saying this about Lainey Wilson. And I can't stress enough how big of a Lainey Wilson fan I am.

But like seriously, I could have given you three other Lainey Wilson songs that should have been better that song is actually not good and then White Horse by Chris Stapleton I don't know their space for Texas Hold'em and then song of the year nominees Burn It Down by four people that I don't know I don't know dirt cheap by Josh Phillips wait oh wait I'm sorry this is those are the songwriters yeah yeah dirt cheap was Cody Johnson Cody Johnson I had some help bunch of people the painter never heard of it and white horse again and I follow country music and even a category she could have won in musical event of the year. Yep.

With Miley. Instead. Duo. We have Cowboys Cry 2, Kelsey Ballerini, and Noah Khan. I Had Some Help, Post Malone, Morgan Wallen. I Remember Everything, Zach Bryan, Casey Musgraves, Man Made a Bar, Morgan Wallen, Eric Church. Ooh. I'm torn.

That's a good category. Her and Miley should have been in there. You Look Like You Love Me, Ella Langley, Riley Greene. Oh, I like that song too. They obviously went out of their way to just not include her in general. Yes. Like she doesn't exist. And honestly, that just makes them look really lame.

And to say like nothing that what she did was country. Right. And we all know it was. Like, sorry, facts are facts. Yeah. Like she had Dolly Parton involved. Like, please, please. It's disgraceful. Yeah. was like sorry facts are facts yeah like she had Dolly Parton involved like please please it's disgraceful yeah and it makes them look like big fat losers yeah it does and it's the headline

of the nominations and it takes away from everybody else who's nominated because like for every category we're like where is Beyonce no and honestly like this is the exact type of behavior we should be encouraging like the biggest artist in the world randomly wants to make a country album, and you're going to act like she doesn't exist? That makes you look lame. That keeps country small. We're always saying how country should be more mainstream. It's literally the best music ever.

And then someone like Beyonce comes with her entire universe and her huge fandom and wants to join the party, and you're not welcoming? Not cool. Not cool. So here are the nominees for entertainer of the year like seriously I don't even care because they're big losers like and sorry if no like everyone winning when they're not going to include someone who was up there with the best of them like kind of doesn't count and the thing is even if uh Cowboy Carter was nominated for a number of

albums like I don't think it would be nominated for entertainer of the I don't think she would be nominated so it's taking away from a category that it shouldn't even you know what I mean yep like if they just like given her flowers like we could have evaluated all the music together and move forward in a fair in a fair capacity right but Luke Combs is nominated for entertainer of the year of course he is and he'll lose because these people don't know shit Jelly Roll Chris Stapleton Morgan Wallen and L, Morgan Wallen, and Lainey Wilson. There she is. Lainey Wilson will win.

Yeah. There she goes. Seriously, Justice for Beyonce, right? Justice for Carrie fucking Underwood and Justice for Miranda Lambert, who held it down for women in country for literally 20 years and never won. But the one time they did, they gave it to the both of them. Seriously, Justice for them. Like talk about like putting the industry on your back for nothing. Yeah. She didn't get nominated. Like my God. Album of the year nominees. Deeper Well, Kacey Musgraves, love. Extremely generous for album of the year. Fathers and Sons, Luke Combs,

love. Amazing. Hires chris stapleton you guys i i think you know this at this point but weirdly like i i don't listen to chris stapleton i have no beef it's just like i never got into it you're missing out i know like objectively like he's the greatest artist of our century i just i don't know why this has happened to me yeah leather Cody Johnson and Witsit Chapel jelly roll not a stacked category I me thinks no and I'm feeling like hatery today so I could say a lot of things but maybe I'll regret so I'll just shut my mouth but just like seriously do better and like the thing is it's not even stacked but like somehow they're not going to give it to Luke. Of course. What about? But no, like sellout MetLife. Didn't Morgan Wallen play an album?

Was that this year? No. No, it wasn't. Danger. No, not dangerous. The one after that was. What the hell is that called? But it's been around for a while.

Wish I would have known. It's been around for a while. Yeah. Female vocalist of the year. Kelsey. By the way, I just I do want to let you know like I'm at a place right now where I don't care you don't care because of Beyonce maybe for the listeners maybe just like for everything they're always I feel like every time maybe it's like I'm too close

to it because I care so much but like every time we talk about these winners and these nominees like they totally miss the ball and I don't even feel that way about the Grammys like sometimes yeah I disagree but not all the time. I feel like every time we're talking about like the CMAs, it's like I'm disagreeing so hard. I don't want to give them any, I feel like Eden says to him, like I've given you so much of my heart, my time, you bitch. Okay, then I'll just do new artist of the year and we can move on.

Because my boy is nominated and he better fucking win. Shaboosie is nominated. Megan Maroney, if she won, I would understand as well. But like, I'm sorry, Shaboosie is like doing things no one's ever done. That nobody else is nominated. Megan Maroney, if she won, I would understand as well. But like, I'm sorry, Shibuzy is like doing things no one's ever done. Nobody else is doing. Nate Smith, Mitch Snitchel, 10 penny, not a new artist. Thank you. Zach Topp and Bailey Zimmerman. Well, it's the same thing with the Grammys. People always kind of freak out when someone who's like been doing this for a couple of years gets nominated. You can submit yourself for best new artist. I think in in the Grammys I don't know about the CMAs three times

and if you're not nominated for anything else like you're still technically a new artist so someone who even like has had popular music for like two three years can be a new artist it's kind of weird do you think Sabrina would be a new artist yes Sabrina it always comes back to her well Queenie are you ready for our next story because shailene woodley is hinting at the reason behind her aaron rogers split in rare quotes about her broken heart and it's almost like she knew that we needed to know yeah shailene is seemingly giving insight into her and aaron's breakup two years after they called it quits the actress broached the topic while speaking to bustle about starring in the three women which she filmed after she and aaron ended their engagement in 2022 well i don't know if i realized they were engaged yeah

while telling the outlet about her broken heart which had quote healed and broken again she admitted to falling in love over and over with unavailability so that's a key word here she explained quote i love easy and also like this is shailene speak so we really have to read between the lines because like she's not just being like, like he's a prick. I hate. Yeah. You know?

No, she's like a kind of. It's word salad. Yeah. Yummy, yummy. OK, so everyone get your get out your forks. I love easy and I care easy, but I do not love lightly and I do not care lightly. It's really taken me a lot of time to understand that it's not on me to fix or heal or do anything about a relationship

other than protect the deep care and love that I have for the world and for my people. Not the world, not her people. Ultimately, that has helped me walk away without the need to understand why certain things didn't play out the way I may have desired them to. She also noted that she is, quote,

not interested in people who cross or disrespect her. Quote, I used to be a person who would continue to give and give, and now I respectfully go, thank you so much for that information. Have a beautiful life. I wish you well. Okay. Discuss. I feel like I'm in English class. What did the poet mean? We're going to get into the transliteration of this haiku momentarily. I want to say something. I love Shailene Woodley. Like I really do. But I just know like if I met her out in the world and made a conversation, I would fucking hate her. Like what the hell is she talking about? You guys, like if you were in the same class in school, like you wouldn't be friends. You wouldn't be the two that gravitated towards each other. No, no. Like I wouldn't like her and like she would not like me agreed I think we

can all agree with that I think this was like a very granola way of saying they're ideologically different oh no I didn't get that that like mean. Oh, I thought you were saying about like the world and my people. So it's like maybe they see the world differently. Maybe they do. Seriously, I'm not even going to pretend to know what you're talking about. No, but I wasn't thinking that until you just said, until you started your sentence. She said like one thing she won't do is like, well, someone disrespecting her. Yeah.

What was the word? Unavailability. I feel like he is limited in his capacity to love and give and share and open up and she to give and receive you know I feel like he's like when he's in a relationship like he's probably a closed off guy but he's also a guy and like he's not like writing poems and I like you if I like you I like you and I don't need to tell you all the time I don't need to like affirm you all the time like he's his love language is probably like I'm watching tv go away no he seriously sounds like a nightmare like I think he's just like textbook man and like she

needs a little more three dimension that's what I think yeah I think that she's really dynamic and she I seriously I don't even know what we're talking about. I just think like she like is looking for a level of depth. That he's incapable of. Yes. And not in a shady way, just like in a real way. Just I think he's very, what you see is what you get,

you know? And I feel like maybe he's one of those people who like very, very often time, no, no, very infrequently like will open up and like show himself to someone. And that's what gets like a girl like Shailene Woodley to fall in love with him. But you don't get that openness ever, right?

And when you do, it's like addicting. And then you're just kind of chasing that depth. And some people- When she's a person who's so complex and so deep and so dynamic. Some people like need more and they need to like be on that level a lot of the times. And other people like they can't operate.

Honestly, like it's draining to do so all the time. They don't people like they can't operate honestly like it's draining to do so all the time they don't function like that they're capable of it but like I'm not living my life every day opening up a vein I'm just not honestly I feel like we kind of nailed the transition translation I think so too how did you guys translate it sound off in the comments yeah are we like totally misreading the situation she would be like how was your day and he's like good and she wants more than that meanwhile something major happened and he just like doesn't feel like sharing right he's just like not in a sharing mood but I I think sharing is not optional in Shailene's really Sherlene Woodley Sherlene Woodley there you go it's as simple and as

complicated as that there you go are you ready for our fifth and final story? Oh my God, yeah. Oh wait, back to Beyonce. Sorry, something I wanted to talk about that you and I talked about offline are all these videos going viral of Beyonce attending her former assistant's wedding, which is just really cool of her, right?

I'm sure she gets invited to a lot of her former employees or current employees' weddings, but you have to be conscious about where you go. Also, you kind of make a circus and it's hard for a really famous person to be at someone else's wedding because it automatically stops becoming about the bride but I didn't even see that she was there like I think she really did a good job of like staying low-key she brought Jay-Z and blue and then all these videos ended up going viral of her singing love on top well not singing the DJ played love

on top and she was like dancing with the bride so cute so cute So cute. And the bride, we actually know her. She went to camp with us. And my best friend Margo was at the wedding. And she was texting. I didn't know any of this. You didn't tell me that. You were like, did you see that Beyonce went to her former assistant's wedding? I'm like, yeah.

And you know that Margo Lewin was there. And you know the bride. And she was in my division at camp. And she's a great gal. And she was Beyonce's assistant for five years. And they clearly had like a really sweet relationship. I want to say, I can't lie. I don't remember her from camp but you know she's not your division she's two years older than you so happy for her uh like getting married is obviously huge but having Beyonce at your wedding like there are people like that Indian family

they'll pay like oh 16 million dollars and she had and Beyonce's over here going for free you must be quite an assistant she had a. It was in Nantucket. So like I don't think. Which is even more. So they had to like rent a house. Like get travel. Like that's a lot. She must really love her.

No Beyonce looked so normal. Like at the wedding. She just looked like any other guest. I thought it was so sweet. And really Love on Top is the perfect. It's kind of underrated. I feel like certain songs become so weddingy. That they become bad songs.

Like Perfect by Ed Sheeran. Like it's actually a bad song now because you just think of weddings but love on top is probably one of the best songs ever made and it's the most perfect wedding song I feel like they don't even play it at every wedding and they should but then it gets ruined you know yeah but there are some like classic wedding songs like uptown funk like will never be bad yeah no some songs are so good that even weddings can't destroy them but good songs do get destroyed by weddings maybe they weren't good enough shout it was on my no playlist right like there are a couple of songs yeah like that like kind of but that one's still slaps yeah that gets the people going and these days there's so many good like remixes of it yeah there's a lot you can do with it

well our fifth and final story is a little gala news because the girlies were out for the carrig foundation caring for women event they were out kim kardashian lauren sanchez katie perry and more all attended the gala and headline news from the event. Did you see this headline? Orlando Bloom. Of course. Was photographed with Katy and standing beside Kim. And he's like looking at Kim's tushy in the picture.

Okay. The thing is, is you. With a smile. I'm not. Okay. I'm not one to automatically assume the worst. Like, and I actually don't think he was looking at it like suggestively or sexually. Like, I think that she is the craziest ass on the planet.

And like, how can you not stare? Like, it's like rubbernecking. You have to look on the highway. Like, it's just, it's human nature to look at something that's really abnormal. Yeah, I don't think there's another way to interpret this photo. Like, was there a smiley face on the ground that says, say cheese?

No, he was obviously looking at the ass. But I think a lot another way to interpret this photo. Like, was there a smiley face on the ground that says, say cheese? No, he was obviously looking at the ass. Yeah. But I think a lot of people are like, oh, his wife is right there. And he's staring at another woman's ass, like in a sexy way. And I just want to say, I think if you saw Kim Kardashian, you would stare at her ass too. Like, one, it's like famous. Two, it's really crazy looking. It's not like any ass you've ever seen.

And it's famous. It's historic. Yeah, but perhaps like not while people are taking pictures it's not the time but no of course but also when you think about those cameras they take like 45 photos he probably looked for one second and like one photo got of it like it probably wasn't this like long gross creepy stare it was probably like he probably looked down at the floor for one second like I think that he's being treated unfairly yeah and I'm not being paid by big or like but I don't, like if this were a different couple,

I'd be like, oh, like he's like seriously, like I pray for him when he goes home. Like, no, no, no. Like Katie's going to like be so mad. I don't feel that way. I feel like Katie does not care. Okay. And isn't like giving him a tongue lashing when they go home.

She probably saw this picture and was like, ha ha ha, yeah, Kim has a great butt. And I think Katy Perry is like in this moment really desperate for news about her and also good news about her, like or news that's not about Dr. Luke. So the fact that we're talking about this because Orlando looked like she's probably grateful to him, honestly, like this is a business. Now, it reminds me, last night I've been watching Desperate Housewives, me and Ben watched the episode where they're having a dinner party at Bree's house and they're talking about how Gabby in high school was like

such a popular girl and Tom Scavo was like the big loser and he was like oh I would have loved for you to have like talked to me in high school so she's like all right let me heal your inner child and she kisses him and Lynette gets really angry and says something and it becomes this like big fight and Lynette ends up apologizing like seriously I didn't remember this episode but me and Ben were like shocked Gabby is literally the worst Gabby Solis is actually like a bad person like Susan Meyer's annoying right insufferable not a bad person stupid Gabby Solis like remember when she called immigration on her biological daughter's mother like Gabby Solis is a bad person yeah no watching it when you're older is realizing like she's not the best character she's one of the worst ones but

when you're younger like she's just so not the best character. She's one of the worst ones. But when you're younger, like she's just so fabulous. She's fabulous. Model. Clothes. And you don't realize that. Yeah. No, that's crazy. But then it also like you see how like people could get into soft swinging because apparently

like it's a normal thing to like kiss your friend's husband. I mean, you live in the suburbs. Like what's it like? Are people doing it in your neighborhood? I mean, if they are, I don't know. I don't walk around with the upside down pineapple then you're offended nobody included you no but it's like you either I feel like you don't ever just know what that it's happening because you're either in it and you know or you don't know like who knows and then isn't in it

like you you're either all the way I guess maybe someone who leaves some I know but I feel like they don't let you leave because they have so much on you and I feel like people don't want to leave right? I think it's the hardest part is starting but then once you're in it and it's very normal to you I think people enjoy it I also just don't

I don't have the time is it that common? you know I think it is like honestly I do I don't know I do I guess we'll never know I will say I personally in my life do not know a single married couple who does but if I did like what I share on the toast that I knew no so maybe I'm lying but I'm not you wouldn't know unless you're being brought in yeah is what I'm saying so it's not like people who don't participate but know about it yeah even with the mom talk or it's like right

right if they weren't doing it they didn't know about they didn't know so it was shocking when they found out yeah um I just feel like we've been talking a lot about swinging okay a lot about swinging recently name a Hollywood couple who you think swings. All of them. Lauren Sanchez and Jeff Bezos. Oh, no. I don't think she shares. She's not a sharer.

Oh. She's not a sharer. That's true. But that's why they have that boat. So many bedrooms just to invite as many people. They're always inviting couples. No, no, no. I don't think she shares her toys.

I agree, actually. I think she's like really proud of the guy that she got and nobody else can have him. She's like, no, no, no. I'm like, some people, they want a little this, a little of that. She's like, I'm all set. she got and nobody else can have him no no no like some people they want a little this a little that she's like I'm all set thanks like

I don't need anything you know what she is she's grateful and she's blessed yeah and even if he's like looking this way or that way

like she's like no I could be all those things what do you want it's true what do you want you want me to fly this plane

order up those were the fast five stories more like fast 11 and we love that and this episode is far from over we're about to play for you our interview with Lindsay Hubbard Jax what what was your um like from well you weren't you were digital but still like meeting her for the first time what was your first impression of her oh that she's so sweet I do

feel like she's so understood and misunderstood and I feel like something that I really took away from her is like I feel like she's very honest whether you like what she has to say or doesn't like don't like what she has to say like we've not really like caught her in a lie on the show or even when she was talking to us even when she's saying something that's unsavory or like you know not what the preferred answer would be like I really took away that she seems incredibly honest and authentic I agree I was really shocked at she's very nice you you have an impression of her like activated she came in so lovely so happy to be here grateful to have been invited like my takeaway sweet is the perfect word I thought she was very sweet and that's what my friends were like what was she like I'm like

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months. So today we're just kind of breaking records with Lindsay Hubbard. Hello, Lindsay. Hi. I'm so excited to be here. I'm obsessed with you girls. We are so obsessed with you. You're our Queenie of the Week every week.

I don't know how much you've listened to the toast in the last six months, but our Lindsay Renaissance era is here. We're so happy for you. We're so happy to have you on the show and to bring back guests, starting with Lindsay Hubbard. Oh my gosh, no. There were so many times where I wanted to reach out and be like, I need to come on. You need to come on. But then I was like, there's no point because you guys articulated exactly what I was thinking, feeling, and just

like who I was in those moments so well that I was like, I actually just don't even need to go on. I imagine it's so frustrating to have like your life play out on TV and then people on social media recapping it and like just like saying things that probably irritate you to the next level. And this is like personal things, your fiance, your pregnancy, like people speaking even in a positive way, but like not really understanding you. I can only imagine how frustrating it is to have people commentating on your life. And so I imagine listening to the toast has been a joy. No, it really has. And like, like I said, you guys really crushed it with like how I was feeling in all of those moments. The thing that bothered me the most with last season was like everyone was just like, oh, you know, A, like Lindsay probably deserved it. Like the whole season was like, what did Lindsay do?

What did Lindsay do? Kind of waiting to see. Like she obviously did something. And I was like literally nothing I I don't understand it's true and then the second thing that bothered me so so much was just like this whole idea that I was not allowed to be blindsided because we had fought and I was just like are you fucking kidding me like as if everyone in the house doesn't fight the entire season no and like what plays out yeah like and what what played out for four months on television was two weeks in real life.

You know what I mean? Oh, that's so true, actually, because the summer is condensed. And you just got out of the house, right? How long do you film for? And you just filmed the upcoming season. From 4th of July to Labor Day. Oh, so it's like a month and a half. A little over two months.

So you just got off the clock. Oh, yeah. Are you okay? Are you okay? I had a great summer. Okay. I and I'm really, really happy about that. Obviously, it's a different dynamic with me being pregnant. But everyone was so supportive. I felt like we were collectively having a baby as a house, instead of just like me being pregnant and on a an island alone um do you feel like people went easier on you and like didn't pick fights that they might have normally picked with you because you're pregnant yeah you're not gonna like fight with the pregnant like that's not a good look no it's not a good look but also it's so unethical like can this first of all if you haven't been through enough i don't know how the fuck you sat at that reunion last year.

You knew you were pregnant, right? Yes. So maybe that brought you a sense of calm, but I felt so frustrated on your behalf watching it. I don't know how you sat there and just let people say the things that they were saying. No. It was really everyone against you. Well, okay, there's a couple of things with that.

First of all, unfortunately, I am used to it. And it's one of those things that like you just shouldn't be used to that kind of abuse it's true but I was I'm used to walking into reunions and just taking it um so I was just prepared for that but I was calm because I'm the only one sitting up there who knows that I'm pregnant and in my mind I have so much more going on that I'm focused on and thinking about. At the time that we filmed the reunion, I was eight weeks pregnant. So I was still very much in my first trimester. I was still going through all of this testing. I had not reached that, you know, 12 week genetic testing yet. So for me, I was just like, all right, no matter what happens here on the stage,

I know that like, I have a lot going on in my, my present, my current, my, and my future to think about. And that's not important when what you're going through is obviously more important. Yeah. And like sitting there talking about my, like, I'm like, it was this duality of, oh my God, I have this like major biggest, know situation becoming a mom it's like the biggest thing I'm ever going to go through I I know that I'm about to go through that no one else does and I'm here talking to my ex about why he wants to be an actor for a living you know like it really puts it into perspective for you it's so true by the way it's like a blessing in disguise because you would have pulled your hair out. That makes so much sense

how you were able to be so calm because it's like none of this is relevant anymore. Yeah, I'm just like, you're an idiot. I have a lot going on and let's just move on. No, I can seriously only fucking imagine. And Jackie and I were getting so involved last season and we've been sort of passive watchers, not really consistent until maybe two, three years ago.

And we were really, you know, we looked a little silly because we were so on your side two seasons ago when everybody was coming after you and Carl and Danielle acting like the way she acted. And it's like annoying that I don't think you guys were right for each other. And it's annoying that you didn't work out only because I feel like it gave someone like Danielle being like, well, look, I was right. And everyone, the haters. But the thing is, like, you were still right. Like, just didn't work out. Like, Claudia, we were still right. Like, we were right. You guys are adults who've known each other forever. Like, if you want to move at a fast pace in your relationship, that's not the reason why it might not work out. Yeah. And like, also, I don't know.

I'm I'm when I'm in a relationship, I am in it. I am so committed. I am so committed to making it work. I will fight until the death, you know, because I just don't run away from problems and I, nothing scares me. So like, I don't know, I guess like in that relationship with Carl, I just thought like, we're going to get through this. You know, he was in a very transitional point in his life and obviously looking back and it didn't take me that long after the breakup but looking back soon after that breakup I was very very thankful and got to a place really quickly where I was like wow thank god I am out of that relationship yeah well you it's also just not normal for you to then have to spend the summer

living in the same house with this person and And I seriously, like I thought of you all summer, like how, how was that? Oh my God, thank you. No, seriously, that's horrifying. Like people run from their exes, they never see them again. And then here you are like living in the same house. How was that? Yeah. First of all, thank you for your empathy. You're welcome. She's an empath. I am an empath. It is absolutely not normal, especially that serious of a relationship

like this isn't a high school relationship it was an actual like we're gonna go like get married and then I was basically dumped at the altar uh and then decided yeah let's share a house together um it was fine okay um he was very respectful as he should be, considering how much lack of respect he had in that breakup. But yeah, he was very respectful. It was fine. It wasn't, you know, there was never any time that we're having like these moments of like there we were we were never together alone good good you shouldn't be yeah that's strange yeah and nor did I want to be did you go to his little event for his soft bar yeah thank you um I I was really busy that day yeah I had a lot of plans concept for you now it is for pregnant. You need a soft bar. No. I think even as a pregnant lady, I probably want to go to like a normal restaurant bar

with my friends. And I don't have a Diet Coke or something. I don't know. It's too much. It actually is too much. And I think what's so great about your journey on the show is you have lived so many lives on the show. How old were you when you started?

29 turning 30. I turned 30 when we filmed season one. And how old are you now, if you don't mind me asking? I just turned 38. Queen. That's a significant portion of your life. And I feel like we've seen you grow so much. And for us, I feel like I recently learned

how much people can change, because I feel like I changed so much about myself recently and I'd love to see that in other people and I felt like the person you were last season was so grown you were so mature it was shocking how somebody could be that patient and mature and I felt so frustrated that you got so much flack when I thought you were acting so mature yeah no how did you do that well the problem is like first of all uh therapy right okay a lot of consistent therapy every single week for years yeah um and finding the right therapist but also I think what's so frustrating is when people don't allow you to grow and like they still are like oh my god Lindsay's like insane and she's a psycho and she gets activated and yells and screams but like if you really really pay attention I did not get activated last season I actually didn't get

activated on season seven either when it was that big fight with Danielle all summer and the girls were coming after me like I never got activated which probably doesn't make for great tv like I'm sure people are really like missing activated Lindsay um but you might see her this I hope so this coming season like made you more emotional they say like hormonal but has it affected like how you react to things some people make them calm some people make them enraged I for the most part have had like a pretty calm pregnancy. Very, very happy and giggly. But there are times when my hormones are raging through my body

and I just cannot control it. Like yesterday, I was, I've been dealing with this like health insurance and on the phone with them. And it's like a disaster, especially if you're dealing with like individual health insurance in New the phone with them and it's like a disaster especially if you're dealing with like individual health insurance in New York City oh my god yeah I do not recommend it always get a husband who has a job and get on his insurance through their employer like it is a disaster we're in a similar boat so I, for the 17th time, I'm on the phone with, you know, the New York State of Health trying to go through this whole thing.

And I'm just like crying and texting my boyfriend. Like, I'm like, I'm having a rough day. I'm crying on the phone with insurance for like the third time today. And he's like, oh, no, I don't want to go home. And then sometimes I just like cannot stop crying. And I don't know why. I feel like that's normal. And then there's other times where I'm just like irritable and I hate everyone.

And I'm like, okay, Linz, like get it together. Me too. You're fine. I think it's just life. Yeah, that is life. People are annoying. You and your man are also so cute. I feel like we know nothing about him.

And I love that for you. There's nothing like more attractive than a man with no social media. An anonymous businessman beau. What's his role on the show this season? Anything? He's a pretty private person. Good. So I talk about him a lot and I talk about our relationship. It is an interesting dynamic. It's new for me um I'm a very very public person and grew to learn how to be very public over the last eight seasons of Summer House um and he's in a just a different world you know comes from a medical background as a doctor doesn't practice but is in biotech and you know they're just like doctor and mrs hubbard i love that something i wanted to talk about that i just am now putting together this was our first

season filming without danielle which i know has been like complicated for you i think at the end of last season you guys left it like fine how was the first season without her and how is she doing um she she's around oh. She's like friend of? I don't know what, you know, label they'll put on her. But yeah, she, she's been around this summer. Just not as much. Okay. Okay. So like much ado about nothing.

They made it like a whole thing with the statement and everything. I think she just needed a break. Um, you know, obviously this is a pretty intense filming schedule especially you know over summer um and we don't really get many breaks like we we literally like film the reunion the rest of the season airs the reunion airs and then two weeks later we're back to filming and there's just no chill with our schedule and filming and airing. And I think she just wanted to focus on her company that she's the CEO of and and just like wanted a break. And honestly, like I was a little jealous. I was like, oh, how was your free summer? Did you travel? Right. You enjoy yourself.

And but she was still present. Like we will see her. Yes, exactly. And so when do you film the reunion? We typically film it in, like, April, May. Oh, so you have a nice little system. Last year we filmed it in May. It aired mid-June, and we started July 4th. Wow. That's a lot.

Yeah, so it's like there literally is no chill, especially because when you're watching the show, it brings up all of these emotions and feelings from the past. Like you really cannot get over. You can't move on. Yeah, you can't move on for an entire year. Right, but do you feel like at the end of the summer, like the summer ends in a peaceful manner,

but then you have to get back into everything and then it makes like all the tensions higher going into the house again for the following summer? Exactly. That's pretty smart on production. Like you're getting, you're revving everyone up again. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're one of the only shows that's like pretty consistent with our timing

of our filming. Every year. You know, like you can't film summer house any other time other than the summertime. Right. But any other show, whether it's Vanderpump or Southern Charm or Housewives you can kind of like flux fluctuate between the months yeah yeah um I think that like you coming out of this whole saga with Carl pregnant it's like the most beautiful thing I think so many people have followed your journey for many years and really saw themselves in your story like just wanting

this fairy tale ending and it not working out in the way that you had expected it to. And the fact that you got to this place where, how many weeks pregnant are you? I am just about 28 weeks. So I'm like, I'm on the cusp of my third trimester. I'm about to be in my third trimester and it's insane. No, it's insane. And I think it's such a perfect way for that saga to have ended.

And we're so happy for you. And I think the viewers who have known you and watched you for so long feel the same way. And we just want to know, like, is pregnancy everything you thought it would be? Like, how are you doing? I've been very, really lucky and blessed to have an easy pregnancy. I don't know how yours was, Jackie, but yeah. One easy, one hard.

I wasn't nauseous. I haven't been sick. That's great. You know, obviously I've had some like weird things. Like my back was breaking out at one point, but not my face. And I was like, this is strange. Honestly, better your back than your face. My lips were like so chapped and cracked and I could not get them.

You know, there was just like little random stuff but I can't really complain because it's just overall been so so easy the only it which I kind of needed to be honest with you is like an easy pregnancy especially in that first trimester because the rumors were swirling so much it was so disheartening for me. Like I was really emotional and like upset just that like, you know, I had all these media outlets and you guys were very, very respectful. So thank you for that. I remember you guys saying, if it's true, I hope it is because I'm really happy for her. And like not to say everything about us. I had heard it like three months before, but I didn't say anything.

Yeah. No. And I appreciate that because what was crazy is that like a lot of people didn't respect it. Yeah. And, you know, as as females and as women, I would have expected more from our, you know, female community, especially for those who have had the experience of pregnancy. But you have to keep in mind, like you're talking about someone really specifically. Oh, I'm just... Okay.

Oh, well... I'm like, are you talking about someone specifically? There are a couple of people that are on my list. Oh, damn. But who are you thinking of? I wasn't thinking of anyone, but you were, like, describing, you were like, a woman who has been through pregnancy.

Well, it's just, like, some of these, you know, like, media outlets and some of these reporters and some of these you know like bravo fan accounts like it's just like i didn't understand why they're talking about something when i'm not ready to talk about it like i had to get through that first trimester i had to get through all the testing and the genetic screening i've already had a miscarriage before. So for me, you know, like I didn't know what was going to happen or how my body was going to react this time around. And like, I just had to get through. And like, like I, my goal and objective was just like, lie, deny, lie, deny, lie, deny.

And like, I did not care. I had the, you you know craziest poker face but yeah there was definitely this was a moment where for me I started looking around at some of these people and I was like how does one woman try to scoop another woman out of like the biggest announcement of her life I just thought that was like really sick I just want to say i loved the clear blue sponsor like obsessed if when i activated by that sponsorship ridiculous when i have a baby you know i should be so blessed you bet your ass i'm taking that shit to clear blue like that is so premium and they are the best tests i also want to say like the the are you pregnant yes or no like not line to line

yeah it's the line it's really really easy very digital like yes or no. Like not line to line. Yeah. It's really, really easy. Very digital. Like yes or no. Pregnant, not pregnant. And also like that was the legitimate test that I took. Right. So afterwards I was like, okay, well if I'm already announcing my pregnancy, I'm already going to post that I'm pregnant. Why not get a sponsorship? Listen, this is a business. Like I get it. I respect it. I loved it. Yeah. I loved it. Okay. So you're now 28 weeks pregnant doing, you know, you're doing the most.

You've got your, which we talked about on the toast. We think it's so smart what you did in Nashville with the Airbnb property. Oh yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I thought that was such an original way for a reality star to invest their money because it can be hard and you know, seasons are high and low and you get fired like there are there's not a lot of certainty in that job and I think investing in real estate but then also making

it a part of the show was so smart yeah and I think it's genius I it's doing it's phenomenal it's rented out every single week like I can barely stay there that's amazing so great there's no dates available for me I love that I'm like all right I guess I'll pick a Monday yeah right and you know next year and you're filming the show you have so much going on and also this pregnancy you're living in the apartment that you were broken up in right yeah and I love following your nursery chronicles I love the wallpaper you chose really beautiful thank you is that the former guest room? Yes.

That he was always talking about? Yes. That he printed his head out in. No, totally. I saged it. I went around. I was like, we got to get all the bad juju out and the good vibes in. And then I started ordering all the nursery furniture.

And we have a lot. It looks good. Yeah, it came together really quickly. I'm still clearing out a bunch of stuff. I'll probably have my organizers come over and help. Right. And your rocking chair kind of looks like our chairs. It's boucle.

Yeah. Boucle. It's very nice and comfy. It's very beautiful. All the girls wearing boucle. You're having a girl. Yes, I'm having a girl. I'm so excited. Did you have any, like, did you want a girl? Did you have any gender disappointment? I know You're having a girl. Yes, I'm having a girl. I'm so excited. Did you have any,

like, did you want a girl? Did you have any gender disappointment? I know that that's a thing. I did not have gender disappointment. I was a hundred percent convinced that it was a boy, only because all of the old wives tales and myths. It was like, I had such an easy pregnancy. I was, I don't know, craving like salty, savory foods instead of sweet foods, whatever all of those myths are. I, it was like leaning more towards a boy. Um, so I was just a hundred percent convinced that it was going to be able. And, and I think I give out a lot of like boy mom vibes. When I saw your Instagram, you had a girl. I was like, oh, that feels right. Like I kind of, I think,

I think you were meant to be a girl mom. Yeah, no, I was, I was in complete shock after my boyfriend had, you know, revealed the gender. It's also such a cute way to do it.

They can, it's very competitive. You want to have like a cute gender reveal, not too much, not too little, not too like fireworks set off fire. Oh my God. No,

I thought it was so cute. So chic too. I loved it. Yeah. And well, again, that was at a time like we, we found the gender out when we found out the genetic screening results and having a healthy baby and healthy pregnancy. And I told him like, look, I have had a hard time grasping onto things that are exciting about this pregnancy because I'm so busy fighting off the media and podcasters and like everyone around me. So I was like, do you want to find out the gender? And he's like, uh, yes. And I was like, great. Why don't you find it out and

reveal it to me in a cute way? And we found out and we weren't going to Europe for another like two weeks so I actually waited he knew for two full weeks before he did that reveal and it was really really sweet I was in complete shock you know accidentally drop a pronoun she I'm I'm shocked I was like how did you do that that's hard yeah I feel like also one of the fun things about being pregnant is like seeing who's pregnant alongside with you and I feel like you're in a great season of like celebrity pregnancies, reality stars. Have you spoken to your fellow pregnant women? Like Hailey Bieber just exited the chat. But like, I feel like it's a great time to be pregnant.

Like when I was pregnant, I was always like, Kylie's pregnant. It was, it was, I had a good batch. I know Margot Robbie's pregnant. Oh yeah. I know what you're going to say. I was like, wait a second. This is amazing. And now I'm just like taking all of her fashion inspiration.

And there's a picture of her like walking around with her bump out. And it literally looks like you. It's the best compliment I could ever receive. Yeah, that's a really good one. Yeah, the Margot compliments. I'm like, tell me more. Oh, you know what? Jackie and I kind of wanted to ask you something because we need a little bit of insider info.

So you lived in the house all summer with everyone. Yeah. I know, you know, Craig came and visited and we haven't, we're not sure, but like, is there a drama in the house about Spritz? There was one conversation. Obsessed. But I think after that one conversation, it was. They squashed it.

Squashed. That's good. Was it like a really. Well, actually, I guess there was two conversations. Oh. So there was. Yeah, there was one conversation. And when Craig came to visit, I actually was gone that weekend.

But I do know that there was that second conversation that's so fabulous that is exciting thanks I don't think you guys have anything to worry about no I mean we literally did nothing wrong we are excited to be a part we're excited to be a part of anything speak our truth yeah we're just like honorary cast members yeah well I actually feel like last season ended kind of frustratingly and Claudia and I were left with like some lingering questions that I would just like to like ask you so I could move forward just like logistical things like first of all why don't they have a camera in the cars that you guys are always fighting in oh my gosh I know um yeah because oftentimes like we would wrap when we were like finishing dinner and then

some people would go out some people would go home so then then it's up to us to get an uber and there's obviously you don't have like do you have like production vehicles like I feel like you guys should have like three suburbans we do you do we do so like whenever you see us going to the beach or like yeah going to the restaurant, but a lot of times, again, like we'll wrap like at that restaurant. Yeah. And then we're not, you know, then everyone's off the clock and they're not like rolling the GoPros. Yeah.

Okay. A lingering question I had, like that whole West thing was really crazy. How he went from like America's sweetheart to America's most wanted. Like it was seven minutes how he destroyed what could have been like a really you know um fruitful career yeah he got a really quick road map on like the rise and fall and you know the bumpy roads of reality tv did he film yes how do you think he'll fare um I mean, I guess you'll have to see. It's always hard to tell.

It's hard to tell because for me, again, I get along with Wes. I brought him into the house to begin with. I really like him as a person. Yeah, but that will be covered, the whole fallout oh good of that because that's got to be tough on someone's like spirit you know it's it was hard to watch it was hard to watch yeah I mean he knows it too okay like he it's just when somebody just completely shuts down and like here's the thing like we're used to Kyle and Carl who are like really good at being men who don't run away from conflict on the show. Let me just preface that with on the show.

Personal lives can't speak for that as much. But then you have like West and Jesse where West kind of he just is not into the conflict especially publicly and I'm like come on man it's the job say anything yeah yeah say anything um Jesse's a little bit better at it but still is not love him not a big conflict is he dating the new girl I don don't know. Why would Jess? He's so cute. I love him so much. He was a great addition to the show. Yeah, I got, I really got a lot closer with,

honestly, everyone this summer. Well, that was a question that I had because it was really hard for Jackie and I to watch that scene between you and Paige, the conversation about the photo shoot at the hotel. It's like Kim and Taylor. It's like our two faves are not getting along and we have to find resolution. What happened with the Paige photo shoot at the hotel. It's like Kim and Taylor. It's like our two faves are not getting along and we have to find resolution.

What happened with the Paige photo shoot? I feel like that was not dug into on the reunion. And if it was, they didn't air it. Because there was not, I have no idea what Carl's even talking about. And I was like, you are such a liar. I can't even deal with it. I don't even know what photo,

to this day, I have no idea what photo shoot. I don't even know how to sabotage. How do you evenage a photo shoot you go steal the photographer's lens I feel like that was really Carl manipulating people to turn on you and like that was so frustrating to watch because I didn't believe it for a second I feel like right before that Carl had been proved to have been a liar he had lied like three times on that couch yeah now if Carl says Lindsay sabotage your photo shoot why are we believing believing it? No. Here's what happened. So I did that big Us Weekly spread, you know, with my side of the story after the breakup. It came out right before BravoCon.

It really pissed off Carl. was went to Paige and was like, you know, talking all this shit and spewing all these lies at BravoCon about something that literally never happened. And in fact, my best friend, I guess that photo shoot was at my best friend, one of her venues. Yeah. And she's the one who approved it. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah. That whole thing made no sense. So you're saying my best friend called me and was like, hey, by the way, like Paige is doing a photo shoot at one of my venues.

And I'm like, hey, cool. Sounds good, whatever. And now you're turning that into like me sabotaging a photo shoot. I don't even know where the photo shoot was. Right. That was really frustrating. That was Jackie.

I'm so glad we just brought that up. What other lingering questions do we have? We watched that reunion, like seriously eagle eagle-eyed we were not on our phones it was so impressive how you handled yourself because I've never been in that situation but when I have a conversation with like a friend I'll start crying like I'm really it's so scary and for you to have taken on all those people at once like Danielle and that still lingering story about oh that's what was so crazy thank you I'm so glad I just reminded myself you guys are so funny you were blamed for that Craig thing elite daily that Craig was kicked out of Kyle and Amanda's wedding somebody

leaked that story and for years people have said it was you for years did you you didn't know it was Danielle but Danielle admitted it on the reunion that it was no I knew oh you did but you didn't I did I knew for years you told Paige it was Danielle in the kitchen yes but I had been blamed for years for years for it and you just like took it you were like it wasn't me but okay at the reunion before the season seven reunion that came up that topic about and Paige was like you leaked this story and I was like no I didn't and I was waiting for Danielle to say anything and she didn't and like that that's the thing is like all these people are like you threw Danielle under the bus I'm like no no in fact I took the blame she threw you under the bus for years that was years and I

had taken the blame for it. And I was so annoyed that everyone was like, you threw your friend under the bus. I was like, no, I was just tired of taking the blame for something I didn't do. You got out from under the bus yourself. And I wanted to clear my name. That was far and away her worst moment and really like a bad look. And I do think that it left

a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Especially people who had rode for her last season with the uh you know you're moving too fast the engagement party shenanigans with that really kind of crazy behavior no yeah that was frustrating but we're good me and danielle are you know water under the bridge or bus whatever is there anyone you're like really not on good terms with right now i guess we'll have to wait and see it always like it always happens this way you think you think you have a great summer and then like you know people start doing press and interviews and

we're going for confessionals and you're like what yeah so have you have you filmed all the confessionals for this upcoming season or no no when'd you film them? We filmed them for like the rest of the year, like all the way through until like April. Yeah. They really put you to work. Last season? No, legitimately. I remember last year, my first confessional was three weeks after the breakup. And I walked in crying.

I couldn't even get through the confessional. I was crying. I was, we couldn't get my makeup on. I, it was just terrible. Imagine sitting in that chair after that and then reliving and having to talk about how you can't wait to marry your best friend. And then you're like, but three weeks ago, yeah, he just broke my heart. So, but yeah, um, I mean this year, I don't know. I've been kind of in this really giggly, happy place and like really funny. Like, I don't know what it is about this pregnancy.

This baby is just making me like quick, like quick on my feet, which is weird because the other side of my brain is like dumb as fuck. Like brain fog. I like have pregnancy brain on half of my brain. And then the other side is brain fog. I'm like have pregnancy brain right on half of my brain and then the other side is really quick. That is so funny. Well that makes good TV. You look beautiful. Yeah. Oh and you know we were talking about you on the toast the other day because you shared that like you've kind of gained the like your doctor had said that like you've pretty much maxed out on how much weight you should gain. I thought that was like a really

relatable thing to share. I think that happens to a lot of people. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah. So I and by the way, when I posted that, everyone was so sweet and like sharing their stories. And it made me feel better because some people gain a lot of weight in the beginning and then level out towards the end. It's just everyone's different. But I yeah, I've gained at that point was like 40 pounds now I'm looking at like 46 47 I don't know but I know I love that you share numbers I feel like everyone talks about it vaguely but like you're just dropping numbers like it's honestly inspiring and like I think makes a lot of people like just feel very like seen. Okay, here's the thing. I was so thin after my breakup. I had lost so much weight that I almost feel like my body was like getting to a normal weight.

But also I'm just I've been enjoying myself. Of course. As you should. As you should. Not necessarily like super worried. But now I have to start worrying because I'm on the cusp of potential. Right. Gestational.

Gestational diabetes. That's where it's like the fun kind of stops. Yeah. So now I'm going to have to go on a low carb diet and eat like chicken and broccoli every night. But that's okay. I actually love chicken and broccoli. I know.

Me too. It's like my favorite. I'm totally fine with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My boyfriend's like, I'll do it with you. And I was like, oh, okay. So. okay so I love him I know he's really sweet and that's every appointment with me

he does not miss an appointment and this is someone you dated previously and you reconnected with right yeah so I we dated at the end of 2020 okay um so it was like still COVID, weird times. Like I think we met in October, kind of set up, kind of not, at Zero Bond. I went with a girlfriend. He went with a guy friend. And then our friends were mutuals. I love that. Yeah, it was like a little meet cute. We went on three or four dates.

And then he broke things off because it was just bad timing. He was super, super focused on work. He was traveling a bunch. It was just bad timing he was super super focused on work he was traveling a bunch it was the holidays it was covid it was just i don't know bad timing so um he broke things off but he was so respectful about it that i couldn't even be mad at him yeah and then three years later last december he reaches back out and I was like whoa yeah oh my god I did not expect to ever hear from him ever again like that's what happens you date and then when you things don't work out you just like never talk to that person yeah you put a file like bye like I didn't know you before I don't know you now yeah and here we are three years later out of the blue. He texted me and I was like, OK, interesting.

Why now? Right. But I think it was that same friend that invited him to that dinner three years ago that encouraged him to text me. And I put him on ice for about a month. It was also December. I was closing on my house in Nashville. It's the holidays. And then in like mid-January, I was like, OK, we can go to lunch. Not the lunch. Yeah. And then how long

into dating him did you find out you were pregnant? Into dating? I found out I was pregnant in April. So I guess three months later. No, I'm obsessed. I feel like so happy for you. And I also think that it's really nice to see someone like really never give up on the things that they wanted. Right. Like you're kind of a hopeless romantic. Like you always knew you wanted to get married, have a husband, have kids. And I think for a while you thought maybe your story wasn't going to end that way. And then to see it and this like really beautiful way. It's just I love it. Like it gives me chills. Yeah. Thank you. I really think the universe had such a strong play in the last year of my life in such a big way because for being such a non-traditional

unconventional girl, I think my goals were always a little bit more aligned with a traditional lifestyle with like the engagement marriage babies. And then, yeah, my breakup, I was like, what the hell? Like I am 37 staring on the barrel of like being single and starting over. And it was just like, oh, my God. And then out of nowhere, you know, my boyfriend comes back around and then we start dating. And by the way, I had a roster, but of course he made it easy to clear that roster. So, yeah. And then like next thing you know, boom, I'm pregnant. And I just all I could think about was like, this is so weird.

Like I was with Carl for two years. Yeah, I never got pregnant with him. Like it wasn't like we were exactly being super safe. Right. You know, and yeah, I don't know. I think like in my mind, the engagement and the marriage and the babies in that order was that fairy tale life that I always dreamt of and then when I think about it now I think no like this this is what I always dreamt of is like the family and the babies and like if the guys if it works out then it's great yep and I hope it does like I really do

hope that it works out with him and that there is the word forever attached with our relationship but if not like I got my fairy tale totally I love that I'm chills ah it has been so fabulous not only talking with you but just watching your journey we cannot wait to just watch what Hub House gets herself into. Yeah no literally I feel like I just step and shit everywhere I go and it's like accidental great TV I'm like I don't know how this happened to me

It's so true because you say things and I don't even think you realize like how iconic they are when you're saying them of course how many sandwiches have you made me like when you were saying that you didn't think that that was gonna become like a line and then here you are we're talking about it eight years later that was so funny like seriously no it was kind of crazy it was but you are just your character you're so this is our first time meeting in person you are so so nice we are so happy to have had you on the show and like kicking off this we literally like stopped having guests on the show like a year ago. We were like, we just can't do it anymore.

But we needed to talk to you. Oh my gosh. Well, I needed to talk to you guys. Desperately. I was like, hi. Yeah. We've been DMing Lindsay, like so glad we were able to do this.

Thank you for coming. Make sure to follow Lindsay on social media. What's her Instagram? Linz Hubs. Linz Hubs. All the baby content. Yeah. And Hub House Nashville. Which by the way, next time we All the baby content. Yeah. And Hub House Nashville.

Which by the way, next time we go to Nashville, we are staying at Hub House Nashville. No, 100%. We need to book it. No, book it. Let's do a girl's trip. Yes.

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