The Toast - Amigas Cheetahs: Tuesday, April 21st, 2026
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It's Jackson, Claude and every show the fast five things you need to know.
We'll start your day off, swirly.
It's the toast.
I sound amazing.
Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday.
It's giving.
You know what today's giving?
Transformation Tuesday.
Because you got a haircut?
Yeah, I'm sure you guys could tell.
It's extremely dramatic transformation over here.
I got a trim.
And I'm feeling like myself again.
You look like yourself again.
Thank you.
Are you shocked when I opened the camera this morning?
I was.
I said, wow.
That's a transformation.
She's a major change.
Yeah, it's giving a girl going through a breakup.
She's so crazy with her trim.
Is there something you want to tell us?
Yeah.
I did something crazy last night.
What did you do?
I did something cute last night.
I did something cute last night because I cleared out my computer because I was running low on storage
and they took me to this wonderful place in my computer where they showed me
my biggest files. And they only reserve that for the toast for the times when it's dire, I guess.
Right. And I got to see my biggest files. My computer, like lots of videos and stuff. And like,
it was so much like old Patreon footage, like stuff from like that move on when I was pregnant
with Charlie. A lot of footage from when I redecorated my guest room. And like,
so many different like eras of us just like popping on my screen. So many pari eras,
toast anniversary documentary. It was really cute to go in and delete everything.
Well, because it's all on Patreon.
Well, it exists at Patreon.com slash a toast.
So make sure to subscribe to support your favorite podcast.
It was very cute trip down memory lately.
That was very unexpected.
Like I was just trying to do some admin.
All of a sudden, they took me through the years.
Well, my mahjong game got canceled because like when you have literally three friends and
one of them drops out, like you're just sort of up Shits Creek without a paddle.
I think it's time for Siamese mahjong.
I know.
And Ben is like becoming a real addict too.
And we like, we get in bed.
We're like, we wish we could play mahjong.
And if we just learned how to play.
two-player mahjong. It's just the thing about mahjong why it's so great. It's like it's the
community aspect of it. Like, yeah, I could sit at my kitchen table with my husband, but I do that
every night. Like, I don't need to do that. I also someone just, I was reading my DM, someone
DM. They were like, you have to learn how to play two-player mahjong and so much fun and you can play
whenever. But I also think it would kind of ruin four person mahjong because all of a sudden,
it's very slow. Yeah. And also I think that the magic of mahjong is that like it's hard to get a game
together. So when you do, it's like everybody's so excited to be there. So yeah, I didn't get to play.
And Ben went to the Knit game. So I actually was so bored. I just fell asleep. And actually in the
middle of the day, I just fell asleep once Ben left. And I don't want to put like any bad vibes out there.
But I feel like Ben might be a curse to the Knicks. The first game he did not go to, they won. The second
game he went to, they lost. He's 0 for two. I have an experience as well. And if it keeps going
that way, I'm going to need Jalen Brunson to step in and say, Ben, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can watch from outside.
But don't you want them to lose, like, in your heart of hearts because then he'll, like,
stay home and not be into the game anymore?
Maybe I, maybe at a place in my life, like, I was, like, genuinely that evil.
But now, like, Ben loves the Knicks so much.
And honestly, now I'm very much healed because whenever I think of the Knicks, like,
Ruby was born in the middle of the playoffs.
So we were watching in the hospital for, like, the two weeks that we got home,
We stayed up every night with like Ruby sleeping on my boob.
Like I think so fondly of it.
Like I can't believe that it's a playoff again.
That means my baby's almost won.
Like I actually love the Knicks now.
I have, I never didn't like the Knicks.
I just hated that like Ben, you know, left.
But now I like really love it.
I actually like when Ben was at the game, like I watched because like I care.
I care.
Yeah, I can learn.
I can learn.
That's really sweet.
And then also like Ruby's going to be a little Nick.
Okay.
Like seriously stop.
I know.
He's going to be a little mixed fan.
And he has like a Jalen Brunson jersey.
He's the Brunson boy.
And let me tell you, I was watching an interview.
Jalen Brunson went on Caleb.
Jailen Brunson can't fuck up.
No, but that's your boy's idol right there.
My boys, he is literally like the role model for all young men of New York City.
I watched, um, he did Caleb, uh.
Presley.
Yeah, where they like, you know, do that funny sketch show.
I don't know what the fuck it's called.
Yeah.
And they had him say, like, you're literally the king of New York.
You could probably get a reservation at any restaurant in the entire city at the drop of a dime.
So they call.
I actually never even heard of this place.
Like the best most elite steakhouse.
Call as yourself.
Say, hey, it's Shailen Brunson.
What was it called?
Like Kern Steakhouse or something?
I had never even heard of it.
They should have called the Polo Bar.
Like, yeah, Gurne.
Kern.
They should have called the Polo Bar because that really would have been impressive.
They should have called Hillstone.
Literally.
That's the hardest reservation.
Caleb has like a script for him
where he's like, bitch, you know who the fuck I am.
But he like wouldn't do it.
He was being so sweet.
And they gave him the reservation.
And like it was really inconvenient.
You could tell the guy on the phone was like in hell.
Like actually in hell.
Anybody can call up then and say it's Jaylin.
Especially AI.
You could say like, hi, I'm Jaylan Brunson.
The guy believed.
And at first he was like, sorry we're really busy.
The Rangers were playing at the garden tonight.
And Jaylam was like, yeah, it's Jaylon Brunson.
And they gave him a table for 730.
but he was like, no, it needs to be six, which I guess is like right before the range game.
It needs to be six.
And the script was like making him say like, bitch, you better get me a table.
And he wouldn't say anything.
He was being really sweet.
And then he handed the phone to like that guy who sits in the corner eating ice cream who like was his quote manager to like confirm the reservation.
So yeah, I guess it could have been AI.
Yeah.
I feel like that just set up all restaurants.
A bad precedent.
Yeah.
Like not to ruin the fun.
Yeah, right.
Of your sketch.
Yeah.
So a lot of pressure for Jail.
Breson to be a great role model for Ruber.
I think he is kind of like
inherently good.
No, he's like meeting the expectations that have been set for him by all young men of the
New York tri-state area.
Like, it's so funny.
Everybody wears their Knicks merch now.
Like we went to the park on Saturday, which was the first game.
And Benmore his hat.
Everyone is wearing a hat, a jacket.
Like people in New York, like, they just live for the Knicks.
And it's really sad because like the Knicks have never.
really been
besides for like that one team in like 92
that they always talk about.
They've never been like an insanely
amazing team. But in the last few years
they've been a really really good team.
So it's just like exciting for people here to have something,
you know? Yeah. No, that's really great. Happy for Ben Lish.
So yeah. Ben Lish went out. I fell asleep
and did nothing, watch nothing, read nothing.
There was nothing on last night. We had the night off.
Except there was an article to read.
Oh yeah, that's a story today.
Big, big toxic workplace takedown of one Ms. Alexander Cooper.
The hit start coming and they don't stop coming.
And you know what?
It's crazy. I'm really, I'm having sort of a change of heart in the sense that I thought her video was such a sleigh.
But now it's opened up.
It's opened up this canniborm.
I didn't know she had all this stuff that she was sitting on.
So you only do that if you're sort of very innocent.
not if you have things in which people can come at you for.
I think also that's just like the position that somebody takes when they've had a relatively
like conflictless career.
She sort of sailed on by.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like you and I,
I would never make a video like that opening myself up.
Somebody would put together like a 10 part series of everything I've ever said that they
didn't like.
I have so much out there for people to like criticize.
I would just never do that.
And so this is just coming from a person who's like clearly never had a real, you know,
scandal.
Even though she did have the call her to anything,
but she came out totally on top.
She doesn't know what it's like to be in that vulnerable position.
So only like a crazy person would make that video and invite that hate,
especially going up against such a beloved figure.
Yeah, I guess I just didn't realize that, like, she had all of these things.
And that sentiment was starting to change for her and she shouldn't have, like, opened the floodgates.
Yeah, because now people are going back and, like, hating on things that she did.
But, like, you ate it up at the time, like the gluck, gluck, you know.
Like, you loved that.
If you ate it up, then.
I love.
No, I'm not even thinking of them.
If you made it up then, shut the fuck up now.
Yeah, that she pisses me off.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like everything she's done has always had like a lot of visibility.
You know, from the moment they launched Call Her Daddy,
like they had a lot of listeners and like it just sort of snowballed from there.
So it's not like she ever did anything of these things like quietly and you missed it.
Like you.
Correct.
She did it and you saw it.
And you loved it.
Yeah.
Everybody loves it.
Did you just see that?
I did.
The studio's breaking down.
Okay.
No, I just like was being really aggressive with the mic stand.
Sorry.
So since we're getting into the stories, maybe we should get into the stories.
Yeah, let me just think about anything else I want to share.
We didn't like have homework last night.
Oh, we have dear toasters today.
A delicious stir fry.
A delicious stir fry.
But every time I make stir fry, I'm like, I never want to make this meal again.
It takes so messy.
All the grease.
My floors were slippery.
Like the kids are slipping and sliding.
And it was like really backbreaking.
Was it more of like an Asian stir fry or like a Mexican stir fry?
Asian stir fry I would say because it was soy sauce and sesame oil.
I fucking love a fucking chicken stir fry.
And I just want to say like it came out amazingly.
Thank God.
Because if it didn't, I would have been really depressed because I slaved over that meal last night.
And I didn't.
And what's funny is I thought I was going to cook it Sunday night.
So I sliced the chicken marinated it, sliced peppers and onions and put it in the fridge to cook Sunday night.
And Sunday night I was just like, I don't want to cook.
So it was.
all prepped and ready. And last night all I had to do was cook it. All I had to do was even cook it last
night. But because I was making so much chicken, it just took. And I do everything in small batches because,
you know, they say, that is funny. They say if you put too much in the pan at once, it will steam the
chicken instead of browning the chicken. I'm sure you've seen that on I know. I actually haven't.
Oh, you missed that one. So I was just, I was really putting in the work. I love stir fry. I love like any
sort of like chicken with peppers and onions like a fajita too i love all different types of like global
culinary takes on the traditional stir fry yeah it's a good meal chicken rocks but just don't make it yourself
honestly oh don't worry i never do it's not worth it chicken rocks is a stir fry yeah it was chicken
rocks that's really what it was yeah chicken rocks let's get into the fast five stories that you
do need to know wait sorry so i've to tell you something so funny i forgot to tell you this me and
Ben were like last week it was so nice outside and we were eating dinner outside and we ran into
someone we know.
It was nice outside?
Correct.
We ran into someone we know.
You know her too.
Amanda.
She was in your grade in high school.
Okay.
She goes our school now.
And she was like, oh my God.
So good to see you guys.
Halalala la la la.
So funny.
I actually just made chicken rocks like for my family.
And she said it to Ben because Ben is like co-oppeded chicken rocks, which is our family recipe.
We've been eating it since we're like in middle school.
And so this girl was like chicken rocks, chicken rocks.
Ben.
I'm like, Ben, it's literally a family,
Austria family recipe.
Yeah.
To hear somebody else be like, I made chicken rocks.
I'm like, excuse me?
That's from our childhood.
But like, if not for Ben,
chicken rocks would be a loss starting your household.
Yeah, no.
And he did globalize and like popularize the chicken rock.
And he's preserving it.
He also kind of appropriated it.
Oh, for sure.
Speaking of appropriation,
are you seeing the drama with the Hallmark movie?
I am, but like.
Hallmark made a movie about Mahjong,
and they like didn't put one singular Asian person in it,
which is really bad.
And then they also did like a bunch of collabs with like mahjong companies.
Like not one of them owned by an Asian person.
Like it's giving Asian erasure.
And while American Mahjong has largely been co-opted and like become like an Americanized
version of it, like to not pay homage, not cool.
Yeah, that there's not homage.
I guess.
And like why isn't there one Asian character?
Like she could be the teacher.
Like she could be anything.
Right.
But wouldn't that also be like offensive?
Stereotype.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I don't know.
So then it should be like the leads are Asians.
But other, but maybe the story is about how these.
randoms got into my you know what i mean like yeah i just think they could have thrown something in there
i don't know i think they're damned if they do and damned i don't know really how they got out of this
spot they should have just scrapped the movie but then it's like okay so we can't play mahjong anymore
right now we're silencing mahjong so we can't have movies about mahjong i don't like and i'm not
saying that i don't even know anything i'm just saying like i don't i don't know drama
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Our first story, as we were discussing, Bloomberg, dropped an article yesterday inside
Alex Cooper's unwell, tears, screaming, and employees.
looking for the exit.
So they wrote an article about toxic workplace allegations over at Unwell.
Different things are being thrown out there, one that like her husband yells at everybody.
Well, I think actually the article overall wasn't even so bad for Alex.
It was, I mean, it was bad because I guess she's allowed it to get to this place.
But all the allegations of like toxicity were coming for her husband.
Yeah.
Which like, I guess what they're saying is that Unwell hasn't actually produced.
anything successful outside of Call Her Daddy.
And so that's why it's been hard for the company.
They have a lot of, like, high-level executives who have left because, like, the company
can't kind of put one foot in front of the other.
I don't think they know exactly who they are or what they're doing because they started
out as a podcast network and they have no successful podcasts outside of Call Her Daddy.
So Call Her Daddy keeps Alex so busy that she's really never at unwell.
She doesn't really work there.
Matt does.
Matt runs the day-to-day.
And they say he's just the vote.
He yells at everyone, threatens people.
You never work in this town again.
I've been in the industry for many years.
Leaves set crying.
He yelled on the Unwell Winter Game set.
Oh, and did you see that part in the article that said that Unwell Winter Games,
a contestant dropped out last minute?
Yeah, I had seen a clip of it already.
And they asked a production member to be the new contestant.
Yeah, I saw a clip of it last week.
It looked actually kind of cute.
Someone's flight got like delayed or canceled and they couldn't make it.
So they chose this young guy from production to like be in part of the cast.
So it was just like funny.
Oh, it's funny.
how like perception is because on the show I guess it looked cutesy but on the article they were saying
and they sprung it on him to engage in this challenge he like looks like a guy who would work at barstool
and it was like funny how when you look at the unwell winter games cast it's like a guy who works
her unwell it's it's actually that i didn't find that to be weird at all but i also just realized
that there was bachelor winter games because i saw an old clip on my instagram bachelor winter games
from like ashley i now she's getting like all this stuff right and i was like wait unwell winter games
now i just want to say
about this article.
I feel so split because the article itself, I feel is a big nothing burger except for Alex.
Like her husband's obviously just like an ass is what they're saying.
And I would think that it's like blown out.
I feel like they write stuff about this like to be like sensational and like just get
in on like the drama and take advantage of what's going on.
However, the interesting part here, and I know everyone's like probably tired of me here
hearing me talk about it. But I see so much of this through the lens of Sophia Franklin.
And I feel good at the time that like, I think a lot of people now look back on the Sophia
Franklin thing. You're like, well, yeah, like that was bad. But at the time, like, Alex Cooper was
mother, father. Like, it was everything in the video. See you fuckers Wednesday. It was all iconic
to everyone. And I remember, like, we got a lot of hate for our takes on Call Her Daddy. People
really didn't agree with us. We were very middle of the road and just like, wait, I kind of feel
Sophia. Like, they should be making more money. And, you know,
And then $60 million, you know, the rest is history.
But a lot of the rhetoric around Sophia was that like, well, yeah, maybe they should have been getting more money.
But she allowed her boyfriend to get involved.
That was her big crime that she was married to, oh, sorry, she was dating a guy who we now know was like a C-speed executive at HBO for many years, went to Harvard Business School, had an MBA, is like an actually smart person.
And these are two girls who worked in the industry for five minutes and wanted to renegotiate a huge contract.
And like had this huge thing on their hands and like didn't know what to do.
with it. They didn't know how to steer it and they're up against like this huge media company.
And they know they're being like taken advantage of, but they don't know what to do.
And the only sort of like thing they had in their arsenal was this guy who was really smart, is really smart, and tried to help them.
I'm sure he was glad he did that. So even people who were like, yeah, they should have gotten more money.
Sophia's biggest crime was always like letting a man get involved, even though like sorry the man was probably smarter than them both and could have helped at the time.
Like I think that's fine to say. So I just think it's like a little rich.
that not only did she get married
to start working with her husband,
they merged.
Like her,
everything she built and called her daddy
is a part of a holding company
called trending that she started with her man.
He had some successful, like,
ventures.
They've mushed them all together
to start this unwell trending company.
She has given the keys to her success to her husband.
He runs the day to day.
Which, by the way, I have no problem with I just want to say.
I'm not one of these like man hating people.
I work with my husband.
And like I feel like that's fine.
No, the thing is all of these things, toxic worksplace,
letting your man get involved,
letting him be this run the show that you built,
would be fine from anyone other than her
who has preached all of this stuff,
all of these years.
Like, you know, she's meant to, like she rails on everyone
and has guests come on who talk about like toxicity
and narcissism and yelling and this and that.
And then like you're perpetuating it.
Like you're supposed to be perfect
because that's what you demand of everyone else.
No, and like you love.
you literally ruined your best friend's life.
And I guess her crime was asking her boyfriend for advice.
Meanwhile, yeah, you've handed the keys to your kingdom over to your husband,
which if anyone else were to do, like I would have no issue with.
But I do find the irony quite rich.
But she has like people who come on and talk about like being on reality TV and their producers
were very toxic.
And that's like the one place that like she's created right now.
And like you're not allowed to do that because like you say one thing and do another thing.
And I also feel like there's like two.
guides to the way that she runs her business.
There's like the, you know, when she's doing her show and she's like,
Girls, Girl, and, you know.
Safe space.
Safe space, smile, happy.
Like, and then she, like, does these articles where she's just like so, like, I don't care
if people like it, you know?
And it's like they're so different, you know?
And I feel like now it's like the image.
It's just not adding up.
And I, I feel like we've chalked it up to her changing lanes a lot of times, you know,
like, oh, she's going to try and be the reality.
Go from Girl Boss to more like Chris.
Harrison. Yeah, but it's also just, it just is so incongruous to be like one way when she's hosting
the show where it's like this warm, safe place and everybody's feelings matter. And then she's
talking to Forbes and she's like, you've got to be ruthless. And then she goes to Utah and hangs out
Dakota Mortensen. Well, that's the other thing that, of course. Yeah. No, but I'm sorry, I read the
article and all I thought about was Sophia because the article is a sort of an indictment on her husband.
It doesn't say that Alex herself does anything wrong. She's sort of absent from the company.
Because the one thing the company has is call her daddy, and that keeps her very busy.
So she's sort of offloaded these 100 employees, 20 of which have left in the last year,
which is like a significant percentage of the workforce.
She's left it all to her husband, and he's sort of destroying her reputation.
Yeah.
This is crazy.
And also the sorts of things that she talks about all the time.
And as far as what I've heard from actually a couple of people is that there's a
big article coming about Unwell from Variety. They've been working for a while. This is not new.
I guess the timing is just crazy. Variety's been working on an article of their own in this same vein.
It didn't really seem that like this Bloomberg article though had any like firsthand accounts. They didn't
have any anonymous sources even. It was just like giving vibes. And I also feel like it was
what you just said. You saw the clip of the production person and you thought it was cute.
So they just sort of told it from a different angle. They just put all.
the things that have happened in the last five years in one article, which when you look at it all
together, yeah, like the three serious shows that launched that didn't even last year. Right.
Just like all of this, you know, I guess flops. Yeah. But putting them together when I feel like
she's done a really good job and as you should do in business of like obfuscating that thing,
moving forward, making the brand seem like amazing. And it's like actually it's kind of smoke and mirrors.
But the smoke and mirrors.
But that's what everyone does, by the way.
Yeah.
They make these like fake companies that are fake and fake and fake until they actually
aren't and then they end up doing quite well.
But that's so internet.
Everybody is like always making their companies, their brands, everything seems so
legitimate when it's like a podcast with three listeners, you know?
And I think the difference for her is like because she's gotten so much money from her
podcast deals, she can put so much money into Onewell.
So the smoke and mirrors are very expensive smoke and expensive mirrors.
And like there is a company.
they bought themselves a company there.
You know, other people, they don't have that capital
to just keep funneling it into the business.
But like between $60 million from Spotify
and like a hundred-ish from serious.
Like that's a lot of money to like, you know,
build a company and then get the things that make it successful.
And I do wonder why that was her angle.
Like I think she is kind of obsessed with being like girl boss
because why isn't like hosting a very, very, very successful podcast?
Why isn't that enough?
Like why do you have to start a whole company with events and products and merge
and shows, like, why don't you just be
the call her daddy girl? Like, that's huge.
I don't know. That part
I just can't relate to.
I feel like that was like more her husband,
like wanting to be a part of it. And we could start a company.
Yeah, and like, we have to monetize the audience.
The 60 mil, the 100 male,
that's all funneling this company. Like, why? That could have just been
yours. Like, and you could have bought more houses and went on vacation.
And you could have lived on that forever. And you would get
the hundred, the serious deal is like three, how many years?
And then there'll be another deal.
The serious.
X-M deal is outsized and that's most likely not what she's taking home because it's all these
promises of the shows. Remember, she launched three radio shows and then four more podcasts. So she owes
Sirius XM X amount of downloads per month that she's just not hitting. Her show was very successful,
but it was blown up because of all these shows she was going to produce for them. Half of them
have been canceled. The other half are just like getting by on fumes. Yeah, there's not like a big
hit there. But she'll still make a lot of money. Of course. If that was me,
I would just like, I would just be that.
Like I get to interview everyone.
Anyone I've ever wanted to interview.
Like can come on my show and make you a shit ton of money.
Like, who wants all this stuff?
Yeah.
I don't know if that's driven like by her.
Maybe also wanting to eventually exit podcasting.
Yeah.
Some people don't want a podcast forever.
They want to like, you know, if you podcast forever, like that's every week you have to work.
It's not mailbox money.
Like maybe you want to set something up so that you can sort of become a behind the scenes.
person and not have to work so hard.
I do feel like maybe that's what she wants is not to podcast forever.
That's not everyone's dream.
Oh my God, couldn't be made.
I know.
I know.
But people are different.
No, you're right.
You're right.
Sort of like retire into like an investor.
Yeah, be like a CEO, you know, behind the scenes.
Like still do your show or whatever.
Like, but Bill Simmons, like he has plenty of shows.
Right.
He's gone.
He could be gone.
I don't know if he still does his show.
No, I think he does his show.
But that's the point.
Right.
It's not.
It does not all, that's a thing.
The ringer lives beyond him.
The ringer started with Bill Simmons and then eventually became this big thing.
Call Her Daddy was supposed to turn into this big thing where like call her daddy is one in a million of the successful things that the show does.
But it didn't happen that way.
And so now it's just, I bet that Unwell is just sort of this like thorn in her side.
I don't even, it's not just her side.
It's her whole body.
Well, of course.
And these like employees that just demanded.
It's like, you're being mean to me.
Like, who wants that?
Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know. It's interesting that it's just all turning. It's also, it's also weird to me.
Fickle. It's so, it's happening so quickly. And I do think by the time it sort of settles for her, Sophia will be releasing her book. Like, I just think it's going to be shows coming out.
Yeah, it's going to be a bad year actually. Oh, I feel bad. I just, I don't know.
I don't know if any of this will actually, like, touch her, you know.
Right.
And what's today, Tuesday?
So, like, is the show still coming out?
Because, like, the show's not about her.
So, and it's all pre-recorded, like, weeks in advance.
Yeah.
But if I'm a guest, I'm not dying to be on the show right now.
Yeah, but she has, well, that's the thing.
It's like, I want to say she has a lot of friendships just because, like, she
won a show she was friends with Margot Robbie and Miley called her up.
But, like, where are her influence her friends?
Like, she's had, like, friends throughout, not friends throughout the years,
but people who have come on the show.
I don't want to like start naming them, but like.
I know. So a valid, sorry, not a valid, a common criticism of her.
It's just that I think that people say like speaks to her character.
It's that she has like no friends in the industry.
And the ones that like she did connect with, I'll say their names.
Like, right?
Sure.
She was friendly with Morgan Stewart.
Jackie Schimel.
Jackie Schimel.
Like LA, like very LA podcast.
There was a time where she was having a lot.
Hannah Burner and Paige were on her show.
I don't think Hannah Burner and Paige were ever her friends.
honestly. Hannah Burner was on
before, like when she was still in New York
Hannah Burner went on a couple times. That even
when she moved like, so you can be less
by the way, I feel like it's common knowledge.
I feel like Paige hates. And I'm just saying this
based off of internet. This is not anything that I know.
Based off of vibes. I feel like it's
like everybody agrees like Paige hates
Alex Cooper because one time she like
interviewed them both and was asking questions about Summerhouse being like
well Hannah like how do you not like hate Paige
for staying at Summerhouse and staying friends with the people
who like ruined your life? And Paige was like, excuse me.
So she was never on call her daddy again.
Hannah has been on to like promote her various projects.
But I don't feel like they were ever like super friendly, especially because then Alex moved to L.A.
Like that can be explained away.
Like her L.A. friends.
What happened?
I don't know.
And so that's another one where it's like very incongruous with the person she is on her show that's like, you know, you would never think this person.
And alienates so many people because she's meant to be like, you're the girl's girl, big sister, father.
And it's like, can't keep a friend?
I also think that a part of it that needs to be said is she may not be a girl's girl and she may be like isolating.
But I do think on the other side of it, like I think there are a lot of people in the industry, especially like women in the industry who are like insanely jealous of her.
Yes.
And it would never be her friend for that.
And those people are like not at her level.
And so I'm not even talking about them.
You know, I'm sure there's always going to be people like that.
I'm not talking about them, but like the people who have come on her show who are like at her level who are, you know, full lives and don't spend their time like being petty and jealous.
Yeah.
Donde sta.
Don't de sta las amicus.
Yeah.
So amigas chicas.
Friends for life.
Always have each other.
That's what keeps us bright.
Amigas cheetahs.
Yeah.
I was never an amicus cheetahs.
So I'm not talking to me.
No, no.
But yeah, just all very curious.
I know.
And it's just bizarre how quickly things flipped for her.
And I imagine had she known that this dumb video with Alex Earl, it's not even about Alex Earl anymore.
No.
Like I forgot about Alex Earl.
If she had known, I mean, there's no way to know that it would have opened up this.
Yeah.
And I guess, like, for so long, all the criticism.
some of her she's never addressed.
It's as if she doesn't see it.
And like, that works for her.
And I think it's a pretty good strategy.
So, like, to come down to the sewers and a dress.
Welcome.
Well, now she's in the sewers.
And so, yeah.
And that's why she shouldn't have gotten involved because she was.
Now taking it back, like, I think ultimately it was a mistake then to do that video.
Yeah, of course.
And even so, like, I don't really understand someone who very meticulously for years positioned
herself. She's not a podcaster. She's not an influence. Businesswoman. Mogul,
marketer. Like, on another level, I wouldn't compare her. She was Alex Earle's boss, you know,
to sort of join, like, come down and they start arguing with girls like younger than you.
And I, it's just bizarre. It just felt incongruous with the plan she had set for herself, it seemed.
Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. We shall see.
our next story,
Wes Wilson is speaking out about
a man of a Tula relationship for the first time.
So West was on an episode of his show,
Show Me Something,
his podcast alongside Sophie Cunningham,
and he discusses the drama a bit.
He says that there was no overlap.
He said, I know there's a thousand different theories
on the internet right now,
but that is one thing for sure that did not happen.
Everyone was single.
He went on to explain that.
Amanda, and he realized things were maybe a little bit serious
back in February, adding that she has been taking
the brunt of the backlash.
He said in the clip that her phone number has been leaked and she's been receiving hateful
messages.
He said the hardest part I think with this whole situation is, you know, my actions have hurt
people that I care about.
He explained that he intends to give some apologies face to face and clear up all the
crazy shit that's been on the internet at the reunion.
Like I love him addressing like the one thing.
Like nobody thinks that.
Like nobody cares.
I don't see anyone talking about the timeline.
Like I don't think anybody believes them to have cheated.
I never really thought that, but it's a little curious watching the season.
There's like, you know, that sprinkle of, and so I'm glad to know, no.
But, but, yeah, great.
Yeah, like, that's the first thing you're addressing.
Okay.
The episode airs tonight, right?
Andy keeps talking about this episode.
He's said, again, like, you're going to have to watch it, like, half your eyes close because it's so cringe.
Like, oh, my God.
I know.
I think I might watch it live with commercials.
Like, what is he talking about?
What is he talking about?
The season's not even so team.
Would we find it so cringe?
If none of this had happened.
And also I think Andy
kind of backwardsly confirmed
that this episode has also been edited since Skimanda.
So maybe this was something that they could have tossed.
But it's like, are they editing in the cringe?
I'm also going to be like, I want to see both.
I want to see the pre-West Mandeval edit
and the West Mandeval edit.
Yeah.
What is it?
I hope it's not Alan Cummings 2.0 talking about the feast.
Yeah, but as for West,
Of course, people always go to extremes, like, you know, the...
Kill yourself.
Like, my God.
The 1% of the situation that's like not a lot of people feel that way.
Most people aren't sending her text messages or death messages.
No, and Amanda is taking the brunt of the hate, but her crime is worse.
Yeah, it's true.
It's just, like, crazy that he has a podcast and he has to, like, go.
Talk, yeah.
And are there people who then, like, listen to the rest of the podcast?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
to next week's podcast?
I think there are people who finished out the episode,
like just in case you said something else.
I don't know if they're going to tune in next week.
And who are those people?
Maybe they love Sophie Cunningham.
Well, it's like a sports podcast before it's a Scamandemadam podcast.
Yeah, I guess they love sports too.
And maybe they're keeping up with sports.
Well, they should be.
I'm also like officially off of keeping up with sports because like...
Yeah, because fuck.
Lamar did you see Chloe?
Yeah, I did.
Fuck Lamar.
She, I guess, had, I was saying on the podcast, like he was being really weird and honest
about his marriage in the documentary.
I guess Chloe had no idea.
She sat down out of the goodness of her heart.
She said she was not paid, but Lamar was doing this documentary and they asked her
and she said yes.
She had no idea that he was in the other room doing his testimonial saying it was
like a fake marriage and he was just using her for fame and it was so fun to be so
famous.
So she went on her podcast being like, seriously, fuck you.
I gave me my time, my money, my energy, you bitch.
and you're just over there talking shit about me.
She had no idea what he was saying in the documentary.
And I agree.
I thought it was weird.
So I don't want keeping up with sports to come out anymore,
which means it's coming out tomorrow now.
Yeah.
Maybe like, you know who needs a podcast like Caitlin and Scott?
Caitlin and Scott?
I haven't seen him in so long.
I think they should start like a podcast with like cultural commentary.
Fast five hot takes.
I'm all set.
Honestly.
No, I think it would be.
Let's leave the fast.
five to us.
Like every, I feel like people come and go.
They try to do pop culture.
They try to, like the toast is supreme.
Let's just leave it alone.
Yeah.
Just leave it.
But I should be on NPR.
We shouldn't be on public radio.
Like, we should be everywhere.
We are, it's a human right to listen to a toast.
I'll make space for Caitlin and Scott.
I won't.
Just them.
Only them.
I won't.
Our next story, some exciting news regarding what we were discussing yesterday.
Devil Wars Prada to two premiere red carpet.
So I guess the movie is coming
out imminently. So I guess it's this week, right? I would assume. I'm going to get tickets.
The world premiere of Devil Wears Prada took place yesterday and everyone looks seriously pargy.
It's giving movie that feels like a real movie. It's giving global event. It's giving OG. Like I see them all doing press in like press junkets. It's just giving Hollywood glam.
Yeah. And looked amazing. She's probably my best dress as she should be because it's, you know, her movie.
She is like a fashion killer
And this is obviously her moment
And it's a movie about fashion
So it was a lot of pressure
Yeah
The dress was perfect
It looked like the logo of the movie
With the horns
Like it was brilliant
Emily Blunt looked insane
Like I appreciate everybody
Showing up and showing out
Yeah Merrill looked great
And also very like Miranda
Like Anna Wint tour was there
Lady Gaga was there
What's Lady Gaga's involvement
She must be in the movie?
Has a song on the album with Dochi
Oh I love
that. Yeah, it already came out. Oh. But she's on the soundtrack. I didn't even think about the
soundtrack. Like, did they make it like, you know, buzzy? Are there other people on it? Or is it just one song?
Maybe it comes out on Friday, but I just saw that one song. And by the way, they have to start the movie
with suddenly I see, right? Like, that's so iconic. It is iconic. And it's like Andy getting
dressed and she's not like fugly anymore. Hopefully it will be in there in some capacity. And then there's
going to be so many cameos. So I think also like a lot of the people on the carpet probably are in the
some way lots of models, you know, Wendy Harlow.
Barbara Palvin.
Barbara Palvin, Heidi Klum.
Did you see that somebody asked Barbara Palvin and Dylan Spouse about their, you know,
that their home was broken into?
Yes, actually, it's our next story.
Oh, okay.
But Star-Start-
Oh, Star-Static.
Yeah, anything else?
From the premiere.
Has anybody said anything about the actual film?
Like, is it good?
I'm so nervous, you guys.
Like, I'm so hyped up for this.
I was watching people get like interviewed on the red carpet and just like no matter who you are.
Like the movie is a core part of people our age as childhood.
It's such an important movie.
And like if they fuck it up, I'll be so pissed.
Yeah.
I guess we'll have to ask people who saw it last night at the premiere.
Maybe I'll ask Hannah Berner.
Was she at the premiere?
Yeah, because I think Paige is in the movie.
And so they were like showing up for Paige and Hannah looked great.
And maybe I'll ask like, she always does.
She always does.
Thank you.
Also, do you feel like Paige was wearing the same dress as Anne Hathaway?
Her dress was very similar to Anne Hathaway.
I guess it's like, you know, the fresh new silhouette.
And I thought, it's the silhouette of the moment.
It's a silhouette of the moment.
And that's a major sleigh.
On Paige's part.
Yeah.
But like I need people to talk about the film.
Right.
Was it good?
Yeah.
I'll let you guys know.
Like, my ass is going.
Yeah.
Maybe there's like an early screening Thursday night so I can talk about it on the toes.
Like, I'm getting a sitter.
I'm going.
Great.
Maybe I'll go this weekend.
Yes, maybe your husband could finally use the gift I got for him
for Secret Santa the year before last,
which was an annual movie pass.
He gets two tickets a month and he hasn't used any of them.
But it was one year?
It was a one year.
Okay, like $100 down the drain.
I'll pay for the movie ticket.
Oh, you're treating?
Big spender.
Our next story, aforementioned, Dylan Spouse gives a surprising reaction
to tackling the home invader at his Hollywood Hills home with Barbara Palvin.
So big story that actually,
you just didn't make it this week because so far it's been a crazy week.
But Dylan Sprouse and Barbara Palvin's Hollywood Hills, California home, was burglarized,
or at least attempted to as a home invader tried to break into their estate.
And Dylan tackled him and held him at gunpoint before the police arrived.
This is so hot.
Like this is so hot.
To me, he's always been the superior twin, not to put twin against twin, but like Cole would
never do this.
And I'm sorry, like a man defending his home, his wife is.
inside.
With his own body and physical self.
It's so sickeningly hot.
Like, I just love this.
I love this.
So he was asked about it.
And he tackled the guy and he called the police.
And it was Dylan's gun.
Uh-huh.
He's a gun owner.
Nicely gun.
But I feel like this crazy for L.A.
I feel like you can have a firearm.
It's probably just that you have to jump through a lot of hoops.
No, I feel like actually a lot of people in L.
I have guns because of the coyotes.
Yeah.
But you can own one, but it's not like, they probably don't have.
It's not congruress with a Hollywood star.
Yeah.
Well, you know, they always say one thing and do another.
So that's congruous.
I don't know what he says.
But anyways, he has a gun and he's not afraid to use it.
Anyway, he said, I thought it was pretty funny.
When the interviewer asked if it was too soon to joke about it, he replied,
I'm really, this is actually to my detriment.
I'm really not a too soon guy in general.
We're laughing at things the moment they happen.
He said, you have to have some levity in life.
And thankfully, no one was hurt.
and there was no more violence than what happened.
And so it's all okay.
That's like a really nutty response.
I also saw somebody ask him about it and he didn't answer.
He just went like this.
Like doing fake karate.
I love them.
I think they're one of the best couples in Hollywood.
They're so underrated.
But I think it's so exciting that they caught the guy
because had this guy burglarized homes before.
Maybe he's Jerry Kempley.
Like does he run in a network of burglaries?
Can you go to his house and like find her burk in?
Crack the case wide open.
I think this is really major.
They never find people who do burglaries.
No, maybe they're going to go to his house and find, like, the jewelry that Kyle
Richard's mother gave to her.
Right. So I hope that, like, police are, you know, digging a little deeper.
Taking this seriously.
I don't know why I feel like they're not.
You know, I feel like they're just going to let him go.
And all of Dylan's hard work, like, for nothing.
But Dylan doesn't seem like he's so, like, you know, he's not like, and lock him up.
You know, it's a traumatic moment.
Maybe he's working.
working through it, you know?
Yeah.
He's in shock.
Yeah, they said they're, Barbara said they're dealing with the trauma with jokes and fun and all of that.
Ugh, I love Babs.
Babs and Bill.
Yeah, very cute.
They're such an underrated couple.
They are, but that's what keeps them great.
I agree.
I agree.
Stay under the radar.
Yeah.
When we remember, we're pleased.
There's not a lot of pressure on them.
Yeah, no, they're just good.
It's all love.
It's all good.
You know, you get too big and people.
people start to hate. Lots of pressure too to like stay together. I believe that's what happened to
Paige and Craig. It was a part of it, I think, honestly. I think like people loved them too much.
I remember when like Craig came on the show and they had just started dating, we were like,
you can never break up. Yeah, that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot. But do you think that
to them like genuinely being incompatible towards the end, I think that was a part of it.
But do you think that sometimes that keeps you together a little bit? Like so many people love us
and believe in us. Like, I should love us and believe in us too. No, I think more often than not,
an adverse effect.
Then you start to hate the thing that like everybody loves.
Interesting.
Just the thought.
I've officially moved on from them, you know.
Yeah, no, I actually think they're better apart than together now.
What were they ever doing?
Yeah, it's actually insane that they were ever together.
It is true.
But I've healed.
Me too.
Are you ready for it?
It's good.
It's all fine.
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Nara Smith has announced that she is writing a cookbook.
It is called Homemade and will feature a lot of her viral recipes with everything from scratch.
The cover is sickening.
It's like very high fashion.
Yeah, she's like a dress and a table.
Like obviously she cooks online.
So like a cookbook is a natural next step.
but I thought the whole thing is that like her recipes are like highly inaccessible and
unrelatable and she like makes her own lotion.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see like what she actually puts in the book.
And also I would love to know like how she got to this level of expert cook because as I
watch her videos over the years, I just assume she's looking everything up and just like
making it like for shits and giggles.
And not everything is like part of her actual personal recipe.
So I hope the book like gets a little personal in terms of like,
sharing, you know, what she makes.
I know she's also going to share some recipes from her childhood,
growing up in Germany.
So I was watching stuff from the Devil Wears Prada premiere,
and they had this little girl.
You know that little girl who, like, does red carbon interviews?
And she's like, sassy.
Yeah.
She was asking everyone, like, what's the line from Devil Wares Prada that you quote the most?
And there were like a couple of key.
Everyone was like saying Gertr Loids.
Everyone was saying, by all means, move at a glacial pace.
You know how that thrills me.
And then they were asking like lots of.
of celebrities and Nara was like, oh, I don't know.
Like, yeah, it was like kind of a bad answer.
And everyone's like, wait, how do you not know?
Like, you're at the premiere, first of all, and second of all.
Like, do you not know the movie?
Yeah.
So there's just something like inherently like cold and like distant about her.
And I feel like, yeah, and I feel like a cookbook is so like warm, inviting friends,
family, dinner party.
So I could see this book being really successful because the cover is really pretty and
it being more of like an aesthetic coffee table book than an out.
actual practical application of policy.
Yeah, but I'm expecting it to be practical,
like things that you can actually make.
And I think the point is,
I mean, she definitely makes them extravagant on her Instagram.
But like some things,
it's not as hard as you think to make it homemade
or make it from scratch.
And there's so much reward in that.
So I hope the book just goes a little deeper.
And I'm actually surprised that she's doing a cookbook
because I feel like as much as her content is about cooking.
Like it's so not.
It's not.
It's about like fashion.
Yeah.
And it's like irony and it's like satire and...
Right.
I don't know what it is, honestly.
Yeah.
And I feel like this is very obvious for a person who cooks on the internet,
but not obvious for her.
I know.
Like I would have expected more a memoir first.
I'm curious what the tone of the inside of the book will be.
And I think there's a lot of potential for it to be really great and educational and fabulous.
But I think she's got to dig like a little deep.
You know, people don't just let people into their homes like because we like your videos.
It's true.
It's true.
To get that like next step is, it's crucial.
Yeah.
And like she doesn't always share her recipes.
So have people made her recipes before?
Is her food good?
We don't know.
No clue.
That's what I mean.
Like, you know, I feel like the type of stuff that does really well is like 30 minute
meals, family dinners, like things that are actually practical for everyday life.
And I wouldn't say that anything that she does is practical.
or relatable.
And that's why she's been so successful
in terms of the internet,
like virality.
But a cookbook,
I don't know.
This kind of makes like no sense.
No,
I think that it does.
The way that she does it
is not practical and relatable,
like being in high fashion,
but that's just like pargy.
But I think people like the idea
of making things from scratch.
Like once you've done it,
you're like,
you know what?
It's not as hard as I thought it would be
and it's so rewarding.
So I think a cookbook of everything from scratch,
I actually don't own one.
I would like one.
But we need to know a little
bit more like about and that's how I felt about Megan Markle too like when did you learn how to cook
why did you learn how to cook right like how did you learn how to cook from scratch and arsmith like
where did you learn these did you grow up with them like I just want to know more about the person
that I'm like now making their food because you know food is so personal it's more personal than comedy
so but I also say I think there's a lot of potential in terms of like actually
the content right and so far the cover the title what do you think of the title
homemade yeah it's good
Is that what you want to dump for her?
Like is there not a book called that already?
I don't know.
And there's not even like a subtitle.
You know,
a lot of people I feel like on the internet
do like their catchphrase.
Yeah.
What's hers?
What is hers?
From scratch.
It's always like something about from scratch
but I guess scratch is a weird word.
It's just not parjy.
Homemade is like pretty.
Like decided to make it from scratch.
Yeah.
It should be called like from scratch.
It's really her tagline.
But okay.
homemade chair it's the same thing it's whatever synonym synonym and it's a nice word homemade yeah no it looks
like a coffee table book all right let's dive into dear toasters our weekly advice segment where i
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Yeah.
There's some kind of crazy ones today.
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Which one should I do first? This one really bothered me.
Hey, girlies. Please help before I kill my husband. For context, I'm 22 years old,
freshly postpartum, and I'm just still figuring everything out, like breastfeeding,
etc. The other day, my husband asked me to send his friend, Josh, a text, RSVP,
to his son's birthday party while he was driving. As soon as I clicked on his contact,
I was appalled. There were multiple text threads of my husband saying,
how terrible I smell because of the breast milk,
how, quote, disgusting my old lady bra is.
His friend mentioned buying me lingerie to, quote,
take the hint.
I handed him his phone back with the messages still up,
but he never mentioned it.
I have been waiting for the right time to bring it up,
and it will have to see Josh at the party this Saturday.
Please help a girl out.
Oh, my God, that makes me, like, feel sick.
I don't even care about Josh.
Like, oh, I don't care about Josh.
She, Josh, who cares about Josh?
And it sounds like Josh isn't even that big of a piece of shit.
Like, your husband is.
No, he was the one who suggested,
the lingerie.
But like, whatever.
Who cares about Josh?
Like, Josh is irrelevant.
Your husband is a piece of shit.
I know.
I don't know how to tell you this,
but you have a bad husband.
Like that's really,
really bad.
I think that like,
a lot of husbands, like,
do and say things that are like mean or whatever,
but having someone who does that,
like, at postpartum,
like,
the crime is probably 50 times worse than him.
Like, let's say you had read his texts.
Like, you weren't pregnant.
You just read his text.
And, you know, he's like,
my wife wears a smell.
bra or whatever like so bad this yeah is 75 times worse first of all anybody who's talking about
their spouse to an outside party you're like you're done to me you're a piece of shit
your spouse who's 22 years old and postpartum i have to tell you girl i i hate your fucking
husband if it's on site like i'm literally knocking his two fucking front teeth out he's disgusting
and like i don't know what to tell you because like you have a really bad husband
Now, he obviously didn't kill anyone.
He didn't cheat on you.
But he might as well have.
Like, you have such a bad husband.
I don't know what to tell you because you're 22 years old and you're postpartum and I don't
want you to be alone.
But like, you're better off alone.
And then with somebody who does this.
Like, I'm sorry, I hate your fucking husband.
He's a bad guy.
Yeah.
And guys who do stuff like this, there's other stuff.
Yeah, this is just one thing.
I'm sorry.
Guys who are obsessed with sex after the wife gives birth and like, you know, who are like,
can't wait to get to that six week appointment.
Six weeks, it should be six months.
Like, I hate men like that.
And, like, when a woman shows up to her six week appointment pregnant, you know, I've seen that on TikTok, it's like, it's so bad.
Like, unless obviously that's what you wanted and you're happy and like you were the one initiating the sex.
Good for you.
But like, I just don't buy it.
Like, you have such an, like you have an evil husband.
Yeah, you have an evil husband.
Focus on yourself at this moment.
Like, you don't have to make.
Focus on your baby.
You don't have to do anything big right now.
You don't have to leave your husband.
You don't have to deal with this.
Like, I mean, if you want to have a conversation.
about it and see what he says, go ahead, but he's a piece of shit, so he'll say something shitty,
I'm sure.
I don't know that that's a way to, like, cure him of this or make him understand that he's a
piece of shit.
I think there are a lot of women who have bad, really bad people for partners.
And they don't know that how evil and bad.
And then one day they're stunned by something that they do.
So you know that you have a really bad husband.
You know that.
Do with that information what you are.
I don't know what kind of person you are, like how much you can compartmentalize, how much you can, like, would you rather be alone?
Put up with?
I don't really know.
So you know yourself.
Focus on the people around you who do love you, family, friends, ignore him.
He's a piece of shit.
And just focus on your baby right now.
And all will be clear in time, but you don't have to make any big decisions.
But, you know, it's good to know who people are.
Yeah, knowledge is truly power.
That's how, like, you're right.
Some women have no idea.
And they get so blindsided.
like years down the road being like, but we were so happy.
Oh, really?
Your husband was evil the whole time.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you don't have to do anything yet, especially your postpartum.
And like if you want to like give him a shot, like, yeah, sure, talk it out.
Sure.
Maybe you're both really young.
Maybe, maybe.
But how a man treats you when you're like sick when you're postpartum, like just really
speaks volumes about the person that he is.
Yeah.
Unfortunately for you.
To have to some loser named Josh about it.
Like I'm.
Oh.
It's
Okay, the sex one.
One that he even thinks that way about you
When you've just given birth,
Not like that you're a miracle out loud.
Two that he said it out loud.
Two that he said it to some random fucking loser.
And then three, Josh.
Yeah.
Josh.
All right, are you ready for our next one?
Totally different.
Hi guys.
I am an everyday Salt Lake City listener
Here with a crazy situation.
Long story short,
my brother got into a motorcycle accident
and has been in a coma since July of 2025.
He's been transferred to many different
hospitals at this point and at one of them a nurse on staff started taking a liking to my brother. Keep in mind he was never her patient. He's now at a
hospital that she does not work out but she drives the hour or so commute and visits him alone very often.
She visits him on her days off, touches him, cries over him, pokes and prods him and explains that the second she passed his room and saw him again he was not her patient,
they had a special connection. I know my brother would hate her. She's also like quote happily married. The problem is my dad
likes her. He thinks this behavior is normal.
Everyone else thinks it's absolutely insane and inappropriate and we really don't know what to do.
Love you guys.
Signed a toaster in disbelief.
That's fucking crazy.
And it doesn't even matter if your dad is into it.
Like whether he is or isn't.
This is documentary fodder.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She needs to watch.
Like why is she even on the visitors list?
Right.
Well, I do think you can just like waltz into it.
It's not like jail like where you have to be on a certain list.
But you can't just walk into someone's hospital room.
I actually think you can.
You check in.
You say I'm here to see so and so.
Yeah.
But I think you can just like visit like a friend.
Like you could just go.
Of course, but they have to like approve you.
I guess I don't think that they do.
I think that they do.
It's not prison.
There's not like an approved list.
I think you can tell the hospital like this person can't come because everybody has to be checked in, ID, everything.
Yeah, she's checking in.
She's not flying under the radar.
If you say this person can't.
come. Yeah, I imagine you can say that, but then I think maybe like the police get involved.
This is really spooky. I do think like you shouldn't let this go. This woman's obviously
mentally fucking ill. Yeah. And like this is. And sorry to your dad, but it's too bad. And I'm sure
for your dad like he loves his son and someone loves his son. But like she never even met him.
Like no, Jackie. This is giving like truly crazy like delusional. This is like so far beyond us.
Like you need to speak to the authorities, doctors. And like people. And like, people.
who know about this world to know that like this is not okay it's kind of giving like a grift right
I don't know what her angle is she's either like crazy and actually like things that this person's
talking to her in which case she's probably like schizophrenic and needs like help or this is like a
you know she a con right like you tie you get close to a family you need money like something like
she's marrying him and he's in a coma right right um and then she's pulling the plug like she gets the
fortune yeah this actually could be quite dangerous obviously
we've seen way too many episodes of Law and Order,
but like I would actually, and especially if everybody's on your side,
like, get her away.
Part of this is normal or cute or sweet.
Like, not one.
Where is your brother's wife?
He's married?
Maybe she's just like, yeah.
Oh, no, no, sorry, sorry.
She's married.
She's married.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you and your mom and the auntie is like,
you guys need to get this girl out.
A classic your dad is like obsessed with her.
Like, men are so stupid.
Like, he's getting like taken for a ride by this.
random nurse.
He's saying your brother would hate her.
Imagine he wakes up from his coma and like she's there and she's like,
he's like,
where's Catherine?
No,
she's like,
I'm your girlfriend.
And he like doesn't remember.
So he thinks that like this person's his girlfriend.
This is literally what Eadie did to Mike in desperate housewives when he got into a coma and like lost his memory.
At least he fucking knew each other before.
Yeah.
Oh, funny.
Okay.
Third and final.
I'm sorry.
When people accuse your toasters of not being real, like that's not helping.
Who can, who can, who can.
A, I could never generate something like that.
That's not helping the dear toasters,
truth or allegations. Oh, I disagree.
I disagree. Like, this is something only
like, who can,
no one can even think of something so crazy.
Do you know what? It has to happen. Yeah.
All right. Third and final, hey,
Swirlies, I desperately need your advice.
I started dating the sky, and so naturally, I decided
to Google him just to see if anything crazy popped
up. Well, I almost wish I didn't because I
found an article from about 10 years ago,
where he was being interviewed for a foundation,
supporting members of the military that are addicted to poor.
In this article, he spoke of his past experience with porn addiction.
He's self-diagnosed while in the army.
Now, this is weird, right?
He hasn't mentioned this yet, and who knows if he ever will.
So my questions are one, how do I bring it up to him that I've seen this article?
Two, would this be a deal breaker for you?
We've only been dating a couple of months.
So should I run or is this not a big deal or uncommon?
I just want to say, like, I think there's nothing wrong with this.
Like, I know that sounds crazy, but I think, like, a lot of modern adult males are addicted to
Yeah.
Like they watch them.
Even if it's not what you think of as an addict, like they are addicted to porn.
Yeah.
I actually, a submission that I didn't choose was like I saw this guy watching porn on an airplane.
Like I think that like the modern access to porn is a real addiction.
So somebody who can acknowledge that and then like seek help and not be embarrassed of it.
I don't know.
It kind of speaks to his character.
I just want to say like, yeah, we could be judgmental.
Like you are addicted to porn.
But I think that like a lot of young adult males like are addicted to porn and they don't even know it.
and it makes them crazy.
And it's like screen time for adults.
Like it's insane.
So I don't know.
I think it kind of speaks.
Like people who can grow.
I don't know.
I kind of like like obviously it's not like the sexiest thing ever.
It's not ideal, but it's workable.
Yeah.
Unless you like I can't I can't answer the question for you like should you run.
But yeah, you could see this as like icky if you wanted or you could see like the beautiful parts of it.
Honestly.
And like, and like it's historically like it's kind of hard to get a boyfriend and like find someone who you like.
you like. Historically, it is hard to get a boyfriend. And so you don't just like throw them away,
like because there's a blemish. That's why I hate it culture because you throw away like good human
beings for like dumb things. Meanwhile, like they cheat on you and that's not an ick. And so like,
I think things are always going to come up. Blamishes. People are human beings. They've lived
entire lives like before they ever met you. And then you have to like see if that's something that you can
live with or that's just too far for you. And I don't think that this is.
I don't.
No, I think there are a lot of women who are like actively married to porn addicts.
And then like they can't even be intimate without it.
Like I don't know.
I don't hate this.
I just want to say like it's like I love someone who can like self actualize and grow and like and then want to help others.
Like you back to our service.
And by the way, like thank you for your service.
How about that?
Like he was in the fucking military.
Thank you for service.
Oh, he was in the fucking military.
And this article is from 10 years ago.
So like maybe it was even in Iraq, you know?
And there's so much going on and he's working on himself.
And other.
I think that's beautiful.
I have no problem with this, I just want to say.
And now I'm thinking about it, like, I'm sure porn is an issue in the military.
Of course, it's not a girl in sight.
I never thought about.
Well, you know, there are like, I mean like romantic partners.
Yeah.
I never thought about it.
Yeah, it can be easy to become addicted.
And they're already, you know, it's a very mentally.
Tough, they're isolated.
Yeah, so, well, thank you for your service part two on helping our servicemen.
And I think you should stay with him.
Like, if you don't like him.
I'm sure, but like it sounds like you do
and like this is throwing a wrench in your plans.
And I think it's fine.
I think it's fine. I think it's fine.
I think you're fine.
Like, oh, and as far as you bring it up.
No, no, no.
You don't want to look at.
Let him.
Yeah.
And it's obviously a sensitive subject.
You wrote in about it.
We can acknowledge it's sensitive.
So in his time.
In his time.
It's only been you said four or five months.
If he just like told you and you didn't know it,
how would you react?
Probably like not good.
So at least now you can react as like the supportive partner
that you want to.
be. Yeah, wife material.
Because it's hard to get a guy.
Historically, it's hard to get a guy.
Historically. So you know, just throw one away. You think about it first.
I agree. I agree. Especially one who's in the military is obviously in like tip top shape.
Oh, yeah.
Loves his country. Oh, yeah.
All right, well, that was to your toasters. Thank you to everyone who wrote in.
Hopefully we were a little bit helpful. And that is our show. Thank you so much for listening
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It's actually insane that like every platform I list is like defunct.
That's just, I think, speaks to how long we've been doing this.
How long we've been doing this.
We are OGs.
We will outlive these platforms.
What do I say?
I said, we get your pet.
That's Spotify.
iTunes.
Stitcher.
iTunes is Apple Podcasts.
The podcast.
Yeah.
Stitcher.
Public radio.
Our radio.
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I'm screaming.
These were the places like actually 10 years ago.
I feel like you, it's time for an update.
Like you'd think it's actually like embarrassing.
We're kind of aging ourselves.
It's sort of like it's Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube.
YouTube.
Yeah.
And if you listen on another platform like, please let us know.
Oh, sound off in the comments.
Where do you watch the toast?
I think is they're going to sound off in the comments section that we've never seen before.
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