The Toast - Another Day Without Keeping Up With Sports: Thursday, January 9th, 2025

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Congrats to all the grads for graduating the week. We have made it to the latter half of the week. The week is almost over. Congratulations for graduating. Oh, what? I'm sorry.

No, no. What was that? Congratulations for graduating Wednesday. I can't say you've graduated the week yet. That's like being in the end of your sophomore year and saying like, I've graduated. Okay, no, no, this is what it is. You haven't graduated per se,

but you're on your way to the ceremony. No, it's the beginning of your junior year I graduated. No, it's not the beginning of your junior year because it's four years and it's five days. I would say you're at the end of your junior year. How about that? Okay. Because Friday is definitely the senior year.

100%. So I guess that would make Thursday like the end of junior year because it's five to four ratio. Which is also a good feeling. Like I feel like junior year in high school and in college. Have you gotten into college yet? No, junior year in high school and you don't get to college in junior year.

You do senior year, but have you, you're taking, junior year is a hard year. So the end of junior year, honestly, like you've graduated from junior year. Like the toughest is behind you. And that's kind of very Thursday energy. 100%. Okay. Glad we figured that out. So happy Thursday, everyone. Welcome back. It feels like the end of junior year. It does. What? What's everyone doing this summer? What were you like your junior year? Let's talk high school. We're talking high school. Ooh, dark times, my friend.

Yeah, that was a rough time in my life because we had just moved, our father passed my junior year. So I was just like- Oh really? Yikes. I don't think that's true. Our sophomore year? Actually, no, yeah, because I was a freshman.

So what, we were two grades? We were two grades apart. Yeah. But sophomore and junior year are really a blur for me cause it was like both hard years. So I'm just like struggling to like stay afloat junior year. Yeah. Yeah. However, senior year, like things definitely got brighter. Like I lost a little weight.

Always helps. Always helps a bad situation. Now actually like I'm, I'm noticing from the time like before we took winter break to the time after winter break, like I really have significantly, in my opinion, changed like being on camera every day. Like I can't even watch our clips.

Like I know it's all happening, it's all good, but like I'm definitely like fat now. And I've had that again too, which is like even more complex. Well, a number of things to say, like one, at least you have an excuse. Like I look different from winter break and it's like just inflammation as they say.

I've started taking turmeric every day. That's how desperate I am. You feel different, but you don't look different. Well, I would have said, oh, thanks, Turdi. That's really sweet. I accept I weighed myself this morning and the numbers don't lie. It's a tough part of the numbers.

The girls are climbing. However, I'm doing everything right. I'm doing my Socarra, I'm drinking my water. I'm doing my Saqqara, I'm drinking my water, I'm having my protein shakes. I'm staying active. It's not gonna change in three days. So you just have to be consistent about it. I shouldn't have even weighed myself

because it brought morale down. I was feeling a little less inflamed. I was. There is something exciting, even if you're not actively seeing any results. Getting on the train. I'm on the path. I'm on the right path. I'm doing everything I should be doing.

I'm really sticking to my resolutions, no matter how many times I have to pee during the day. This is my first cup of coffee of the day. Usually I'm almost done with my second. So we're practicing better habits. And now we just, now we wait. We gotta put in the work. It doesn't happen overnight.

I feel like everyone just thinks, oh, I had a good day. Yeah, if only it were that. I gotta live this way for a while. So at least I'm on the train, as you said. I went out to dinner last night, um, took one of my favorite Italian spots with Ben and his parents. And you know, when I recommend a restaurant, like I take it, I don't really, I'm not like a restaurant recommender. Do you know what I mean? No, I am. I do. Neither am I. And so all week, everybody was like, where should we go? Where should we go? And everybody defers to me, because I made everybody eat at six o'clock

and I'm very particular. So they were like, where does Trini want to go? Where does Trini want to go? So I decided on this place, and it's a place that I like, and it's actually a place that I love. And I just felt like Ben was committed to disliking it. Do you know what I mean? Because tell me who orders this?

And of course he didn't like it. He ordered the artichoke and pistachio ravioli. Like what? That is something that you order for the table to try. That's no one's main dish. That's like, oh, that sounds interesting. Like let's all have a bite and try that. That's not a meal.

No, Ben and his dad split two different raviolis. Okay. Okay, what was the other one? They're both ravioli. Okay, but was the other one like sauce and cheese? No, it was white. It looked like an Alfredo ravioli. It's just crazy to have two raviolis,

which ravioli is like, it's a risk. I just feel like Ben shouldn't be eating Alfredo. Like I know he's not allergic, but he should treat it. Do you not know Ben's chicken Alfredo story? I do. And that's why he should never eat Alfredo again. And he's not allergic. He just had like a really bad reaction and like he should treat Alfredo as? I do. And that's why he should never eat Alfredo again. Not, and he's not allergic. He just had like a really bad reaction and like, he should treat Alfredo as if he's allergic.

It's actually a really good point. Um, I treat Alfredo if I'm, as if I'm allergic, one, because I think it's disgusting. And two, the sheer image of it, even the word reminds me of that Ben story. And I immediately lose my appetite. It's kind of an, I don't do, I don't do creamy white. I don't do creamy white. I don't do creamy white.

Jackie, I said that at dinner last night. Ben was like, try this ravioli you might like. And I said like white sauce and me like we- Creamy. Yeah, it's a cream based sauce. We are not simpatico with one another. I don't do like a white clam chowder. I don't add that like disgusting mushroom can

into my cream of mushroom. Like I don't do white creamy. I do red creamy. I love mushroom. Like I don't do white creamy. I do red creamy. I love red creamy. I don't do white creamy. Both of Ben's raviolis that showed up were white creamy based. And so like when the meal was done,

like actually everybody liked the restaurant, which made me feel good, but Ben was like, it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, well, if I went to a restaurant and ordered the worst thing on the menu, I also would think it's okay. Like why can't you just be normal? Like everybody got normal things.

Like I got a salmon, pizza. Like it's like a, it's like a Serafina type of cuisine. So like modern, you know, Italian, why don't you get like a pasta, a fish, like a normal fucking person. Yeah, you can't judge the restaurant based on their special. It wasn't even a special.

It was just like a crazy ass dish. Even though I think some people say that you should judge a restaurant based on their special, but that wouldn't make sense to me. Not this place. And also like not me, like I'm a consistent, like regular three things on the menu sort of girl. I'm judging by the Caesar salad and the salmon

and the French fries. Fun fact about me, I have never, and I want to say that confidently, probably will never in my life, order off of the specials menu. No, same. It does not apply to me. And actually in my award winning comedy special, I had a whole bit about this because it's so awkward when they come over and tell you like they come over and I want to be rude. I'm just gonna be like,

seriously don't waste your breath. Like, there should be a section or like a placard you could put up like reserved or it's like not interested in specials, knows what she's ordering always gets the same thing. And like even Ben who's really experimental so many of the times, like 75% of the specials we can't eat because it's like pork or shellfish. So I kind of, I never want to be rude, but I just want to like put my hand up and be like,

seriously don't bother. Like, save your breath. It's a lot of work for them to like memorize all that shit. Like seriously, scram. Where do you, like I don't know where to look. Yeah, and every now and then they say, do you want to hear the specials? And I think that we should embrace that more in restaurant culture.

Cause no, I don't. Yeah. And I know you don't want to tell me either. What if like that night, the special is like chicken nuggets and french fries. But it's like, the thing is like, what if, what if, but it's not. I know. You know, I know. I always am like, yummy.

Oh my God. And you always want to engage. The surf and turf, yum. It's so rude. When people are like scrolling on their phones or like not listening, it's so rude. So even though there is seriously not, you couldn't pay me to order one singular thing. I'm listening so intently.

I'm like, oh, is that grilled or baked? Like who gives a fuck? Right. I am so, because it's- How's that prepared? It's so rude not to. And I'm always like, oh Ben, you would like that. Like, I'm just, it's kind of like a skit for me.

It's SNL. Totally, I always say my husband, oh my God, you love scallops. I was like, oh, write that down. Like, yeah, Ben, clock that. Like, I'm- Yeah, if nothing else looks good. And Ben, like, doesn't take it as seriously as I do.

Like, the commitment to, the like engaging in the bit. I think that's just being a woman and being a people pleaser. It's so gendered. It's me being an empath. 1000%. Yeah, I feel things so deeply. 1000%. I don't know how we got here, but I had a great dinner.

You went to a restaurant. Yeah. And I don't really love eating out these days, but I try to eat out like once a week because Dr. Fox told me to have salmon once a week And I can't have salmon at home like it's just it goes against everything. I believe in it's really pretty good I hope you have yeah, if you've got a good fishmonger like I'll send you The seasoning I put on a little spray with olive oil the seasoning that I like so good No, and you can like reasons I can cook it like to a crisp the way we like.

No, I can't. I know the smell in your house is probably the reason why. The smell is huge and also these days I'm actually trying to be a really good neighbor because I have big plans for the rest of the year in terms of like not being a good neighbor because I refuse to bring a stroller into my house. Like the hallway will be my own personal stroller garage.

And so I've really been nice. You gotta get your karma up. Yes, and my next door neighbors have two wiener dog puppies that are seriously like, I could hear them barking in my own personal stroller garage. And so I've really been nice. You gotta get your karma up. Yes, and my next door neighbors have two wiener dog puppies that are seriously like, I could hear them barking in my sleep, I haven't said a word. Like I am going to be such a delight. Yeah. Because also like the room that I think will be

the baby's room like pushes right up against I think their master bedroom. Right, they'll be hearing, there'll be a lot of noise. If I start cooking salmon, that's like a demerit in my column when I'm trying to get gold stars with the neighbors. Oh, speaking of gold stars, is the School of Rock story a story today?

It is. Okay, good, good, good. It is a story. Oh, not a story, but need to talk about like, oh my God, me and Ben, when we both woke up, we were glued to our phones. Like overnight, so much bad news and like so much crazy footage coming out of LA

and the California wildfires. So I don't know, like it seems like there's no end in sight and I think that they were making a lot of progress yesterday, and then overnight, new fires in Hollywood Hills, which is where a lot of people live. It's a lot of high rise buildings, a lot of houses, was engulfed in flames. So it seriously never ends.

It's a shit show watching. It's so sad. It's the only thing on my phone. No, I think the last thing I saw, I don't know how recent it was, but it's like 0% contained because like the winds are so strong. They can't fight it from the sky,

which they need to do for a fire like this. The Santa Ana winds. But it's like, it's so sad and heartbreaking. And agreed, I'm like glued to my phone and it's everything that I'm seeing. But it's also so frustrating because you're seeing like how many things have gone wrong and how unprepared the city was when like,

this is the big thing that they have to worry about. And I just feel so bad for the people that live there and how frustrated and heartbroken they are when a lot of this was preventable, not the entire thing as we see this happens often, but the scale that it's reached, the level of unpreparedness, the budget cuts for the fire department,

no water in the hydrants. Your biggest threat to your city is fires and there's no water in the reservoir for the hydrants. It's actually disgraceful mismanagement. It's negligent, it's criminally negligent. Like seriously, when all this is said and done, like investigation, I feel really, obviously, I think a lot of people are having a hard time empathizing

because you look at LA, Hollywood, and you're like, oh, it's just rich people. And it's actually really not, especially if you look at just the suburbs of the Palisades that have been completely wiped out. Just regular people. And it's regular, there are poor areas, there are rich areas,

there are people who have lost fire insurance. It's really devastating, and it's not just celebrities who can build their houses back, and even people who can build their houses back. That's years of memories and your family like it's just devastating and there's so many different um uh things to think about like then you think about like you know all the forestation and all the animals like fleeing with nowhere to go it's just it literally is it's too sad to even think about it. It's biblical, like the sky, it's so,

I don't even know what the right word is. And I think at this point, there's like really no one in that area who's not affected by it, cause it just keeps growing and going into places where they don't experience fires. Right. So a lot of celebrities have already lost their houses.

Yeah, there's like a running list of like notable people who have lost houses, but it's beyond that. It's like thousands of just also regular people. Regular, right, right, right. But as we talk about celebrities, like that's really what's going on with celebrities. They're also like evacuating their homes. They're evacuating, raising money.

There's not a lot of like, you know, actually the stories aren't terrible today. It's crazy to me that people are raising money for like LA public services because they need money when like LA, they pay the highest taxes in the country. No, I know. Where is the money? No, like where is the money?

No, I know. And it makes you like so, and the situations like this, like people really like bad faith actors take advantage of like people who are just wanting to, people who live here, like who want to donate and send money for meals. And it gets so, it's so corrupt. They're already looting and stealing from people

who have evacuated their homes. I've seen videos of people setting fires. Me too. No, and that's by the way, I was, someone was just actually telling me about this documentary about the devastation of Hurricane Katrina and how it literally, half the devastation came in the days after.

It was, there was no power. There was, it was lawlessness. And it was like the most, what's the movie, The Purge, but like it was really like crime beyond, the most violent crime you could think of, like it's like the darkest days in history, people don't even talk about that when they talk about Katrina, because they just talk about like the Katrina.

And so it's something that happens during like, sort of chaotic times, and it's fucking disgraceful, it's the absolute worst of humanity. And it's like embarrassing to even be the same species as these people. It's so true. So like for people who are still in their homes who haven't evacuated, who have lost power, it's so scary.

It's just so many different angles and levels. Like it's just a horrible situation. It's so frustrating and it didn't need to be this bad. It didn't need to be this bad. It's so true. And so everyone I'm seeing like so many celebrities like speaking out who are mad. If I lived in LA, like I'd be fucking mad too.

I get it. Yeah. Look at me and my congestion tax. Like nothing's even happening to me. I'm fine. Right. So it's frustrating and it's, it's. And it's so direct, right?

Because like these budget cuts just, they happen. Someone made that happen. Like it's very much the accountability. We don't have to go searching like, who could it be? Like it's the mayor and the governor. And the people that they put in place, like incompetent. It's disgraceful. Incompetent at best, nefarious at worst.

Nefarious, criminally negligent. That's kind of my phrase of the day. It's a good one. It is, and I don't know where I pulled it out of. I just, like, I don't feel like I, I don't think I've ever used it before. I must've seen somebody else like raging about it on Instagram and copied it.

Right. That's so me. Okay. You're getting the word out. The stories today are... Good. They're pretty good. I think we'll have fun with them. Yeah. So important to have fun. It is important to have fun. So I feel good about that.

If you want to get into them, I guess we could. Yeah. Time flies. I can't believe like, I feel like we just sat down, but yeah, no, it's time. That's so us. Except I will say the new episode of the Redheads came out. That's the other new big news of the day. Huge. Really great episode.

The book is like a really good book. And I think a lot of people really enjoyed it and we will like ruin it for you and like poke so many holes in the book. But that's what we do. That is also kind of speaking of big episodes that came out. Jackie and I released a new episode on our Patreon last night, a video and audio episode. We haven't done a Q&A in a while and there were so many questions wide ranging from a lot of people freaking out about Turtey's maternity leave to just random influencer type

stuff. So we recorded an episode, it's out now. So if you're looking for more content to get you to graduation day, check that out at patreon.com slash to toast. That was a good episode. Like a state of the union, that's how I think of the general Q and A's.

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Yes, it was giving, Jackie, not to make everything about us, but it is. Yeah, I guess. Our, Jackie, not to make everything about us, but like it is. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Our first story, not to make everything about us, but it is because yesterday Claudia predicted that celebrity breakups comes in threes and the third one dropped right after we recorded.

Kind of a big one too. Yeah, probably the biggest of the three objectively, but not- Traditional celebrity. Like for the world, this is the biggest one, but not for you and I. What would you say is the biggest one for you and I, Paige and Craig? Yeah, but not. Traditional celebrity. Like for the world, this is the biggest one, but not for you and I. What would you say is the biggest one for you and I, Paige and Craig? Yeah, of course.

But actually this is kind of on par with Kaya and Austin, just like level of celebrity wise, but this was like a Hollywood marriage that I think people really, they were like the exception to the cliche of Hollywood marriages. So that's why it's particularly shocking. Yeah, so Jessica Alba, and we should actually say who it is.

Yeah, they know. As we continue to allude to it, Jessica Alba and her husband, Cash Warren, are separating after 16 years of marriage. Now I just wanna say, like, 16 year marriage is a success. Agreed. In my books, they have three daughters together,

three kids, two daughters, one son, in case anyone was curious. But TMZ has reported that the two are nearing a divorce after 16 years of marriage. This is the report that they have split. I don't think this would come out of nowhere. I believe this to be true. As do I, especially when TMZ reports something legal,

like they're always in the courthouse, like they've got the paperwork. Now, this is interesting for a multitude of reasons. One, because it was one of these Hollywood success stories that you just didn't even think about so much anymore. But also, because Jessica Alba, while she is a very successful actress, I would argue she's a more successful businesswoman.

And her baby company, Honest, I believe reached a billion dollar valuation a little while ago. So this is like a big divorce in terms of money too. We were just talking about how J. Lo and Ben really amicably settled their divorce, because if you think about it, they really are probably worth equal amounts.

I wouldn't say the same for Jessica Alba and her man. And that's where it gets tricky. Right, because who is he in this world? Right, Cash, Warren, Job. They met while she was in a movie, Fantastic Four. He was the director's assistant. Yeah, he's a producer now. So like I said, different tax brackets.

Yeah, very much so. Yeah. And I'm sure he's been holding it down at home. I mean, that's value. I'm sorry it is. But yeah, this will be a big divorce in terms of money. Yeah, and I feel like it's going to be one of those, she pays a big settlement, but then also

alimony and child support. So I think she's in for a, he's in for a big payday. Yeah. And nothing makes me more sick than a man taking money from a woman, in a divorce. When it's a woman, it's like get every, literally scrape every penny you possibly can. If it's a man, when the woman makes more money

and he comes after her for alimony, child support, there's like a thing like quality of life, like where like usually your quality of life shouldn't go down significantly. So like your part, yeah, it's really crazy. I don't know, get a job. Yeah, correct. Settlements, like that makes me,

I would never say that to a woman. Like when a housewife has to go from like her mansion to an apartment, give her more. It's absolutely devastating. It's so crushing. You hate to see it. And that's because I know if a woman is in a relationship and she's not providing financially,

like I know she's providing other things that are of equal value, whether it's children, whether it's homemaking, whether it's sex, like whatever it is, I just know she's making up for it. If a man- I just wanna say like, and children is like- Is huge. Up all the way, like huge, all the way up here.

Of course there's other things that she can do as well, but like to give someone children, like that is a full-time job. And I know she empowers the man to make that money. He wouldn't be a- Behind every great man is a strong woman. And I know when it's the opposite and like a man doesn't provide financially,

not only does he do none of those things, he actually drains the woman and her ability to make even more money. So I feel sick. Maybe he'll do the decent thing and say, like, you know, I'm all good, but I just like, who would? He wouldn't. So this is devastating.

It's Adele, you know, it's Adele. Remember when she gave him $70 million? However, like that was a couple years, one small child. Like this is 16 years, three daughters who are gonna have to like, you know, go back and forth. That's even worse that it was only a couple of years and he got $70 million. Yeah, no, that's worse.

That's what I'm saying. This isn't as bad to me. It's true, cause it's like a real family. Yeah, he gave her a lot of love over the years, but I'm actually just surprised that they fell out of love. I saw like rumors or that they had trouble keeping the spark. Like, I'm sorry, it's 16 years. Like it's not about the fucking spark.

Not only that, but like if you're getting divorced, yeah, obviously you have no spark. Like I hate when people say like obvious things. No, but it's like, you're not getting divorced because spark. No, everything didn't work out, but they still have so much spark. What?

spark. No, everything didn't work out, but they still have so much spark. What? Anyways, I'm sure like they'll start to share more, but also like with the fires going on. Yes. I don't think, I wonder if like the timing of the announcement sort of is intentional just to keep it like the main story. Yeah, I guess so. Well, this is sad. You hate to see like a successful Hollywood marriage end in a family because they Not the main story. Yeah, I guess so. Well, this is sad. You hate to see like a successful Hollywood marriage end. And a family.

Because they are so infrequent, but I'll have to see how I feel once I read the divorce settlement, you know? Am I still sad? Yeah, yeah. Our next story, some big podcast news that I feel like we haven't covered in full, but Khloe Kardashian has launched a podcast

in partnership with X and not to make it about us, Dear Media. A thousand percent. So her show is called Khloe in Wonderland and episodes will premiere on X and then the next day they're available anywhere you got your podcast distributed by our swirlies at Dear Media. And the first episode dropped and it is with Scott,

but like she's going, I feel like over the years, like she's done, you know, of course, Chloe after dark. Cocktails with Chloe. Cocktails with Chloe always has like a little show here or there, but she's going like all in on podcasting now, sitting down with people in her life. Scott, I think is a good first guest, but also. I think so too, actually.

I think it will be like, if I, when I listen, like it will probably be good conversation. Yeah, I think it's gonna be one of those shows that you tune in based on the guest, because it's not really about Chloe, it's an interview show, so the guests that have been lined up for this season and already announced are like Jay Shetty, Tony Robbins. Now I'm just thinking about it,

because Mel Robbins is doing everybody's podcast, I don't even know who that is. Is that Tony's wife? That's what I was just about to ask you because they both do like mantras and shit. There's no way. Tony Mel, or like daughter? I just feel like Tony Robbins. No, Mel Robbins has actually criticized Tony Robbins is quotes

It doesn't mean she's not his wife It's so true. Let's say no, they're obviously not married and I just feel like when I imagine Tony Robbins wife Like she's not like a girl boss. She yo, they're not related No, definitely not Tony Robbins would never let a girl boss CEO into his bed, are you crazy? Right. So there's two people with last name Robbins. No, but they also like do the same thing, it's weird.

Yeah, that is weird. It's probably frustrating. Imagine how they feel. Yeah, for like their SEO results. Yeah. Wellness Robbins. Wellness Robbins. Wellness Robbins. Okay, back to Chloe's Podcast. One time she trademarked it.

Literally. Robbins Wellness. Back to Chloe's Podcast. I'm really excited for her because she is a great personality and that's, you know, when you strip it down, that's why she's so beloved and why she was always beloved back in the days because of her personality. So podcasting is a great medium for her. I love that she's like doing it with X doing video of course, because we want to see the

girls. Of course. And I like that her first guest was Scott because I think they have such an interesting relationship and dynamic. So it'll be for like, you know, for entertainment purposes, it'll be like interesting to watch. But also like he's from her Kardashian universe, but he is a little bit removed from it. So I think it's actually a great first guest. I think that this will be the type of show

that like I care about based on the guest, which is a lot of interview shows. Like sometimes you care and sometimes you don't. I do want her to use it a little bit more like for and about herself. Well, I guess each guest will ultimately like bring something out of her. I feel like I saw a clip where she's talking about how that therapist

Sold a story about her. So she must be talking maybe with someone about therapy So I feel like she it's not just like question answer question answer. She's not a reporter journalist like these are conversations So whoever she's talking to will like bring out Something about Chloe so Scott they're talking about a couple things But he is talking about how he doesn't really like talk to anyone or do any press if it's not within the family, like if it's not the show or if he's not like doing something with the girls because he just doesn't want like things being like misconstrued. And then the family's like, Scott, what'd

you do? Yeah, I feel like they collectively as a family also got to a level where they didn't have to do press anymore to like sustain their fame and their fortune. And I think for a lot of them, that was an enormous relief. I think Kim likes doing press. I think some of the girls like doing it, but I think for the most part, like Chloe definitely doesn't. I could see Scott not liking it,

not wanting to get in trouble or like having things taken out of context. So once you don't have to do press anymore to like sustain your livelihood and your celebrity, I'm sure it's a joy to not do it. Yeah, Chloe I think likes doing it the least. And I actually think doing a podcast that kind of turns that on its head a bit

because now she gets, she's in the driver's seat. She asks the questions. She only talks about things that she wants to talk about, but we still get to hear from her. I feel like when Facebook like lost whatever, like their network was Facebook watch or whatever, and Red Table Talk went off the air. I do feel like, I don't know how popular the show was,

but I know certain episodes like were big cultural moments. I do feel like, I don't know how popular the show was, but I know certain episodes were big cultural moments. I do feel like it left a little bit of a gap in the market for a talk show run by a celebrity that other celebrities can use as a safe place to address stuff. And I actually could see Khloe filling that gap a little bit because I think a lot of celebrities like her and trust her. And if you had a big scandal and you had a bunch of options,

kind of how Olivia Jade went on, or Jordan Woods went on Red Table Talk. I could see like Chloe becoming that. I think that's a good comparison and like a good thing for her to strive towards. Yeah. Because like that show was actually really good. It just sucks that it was on Facebook and like nobody cared. Yeah. But every now and then when they had these huge guests based on these like huge moments,

Olivia Jade, Jordan Woods, it was kind of fabulous. And they also used it for their own drama, which didn't appeal to me, but they had a lot of family drama at the time with, you know, the entanglement, that rapper August, and they would use it as like a platform to clarify and talk and the Kardashians have always needed that. Like they, I remember when Kim went on that podcast

and they choose like weird places to go when they need to explain stuff, things that they, you know Kim went on that podcast and they choose like weird places to go when they need to explain stuff, things that they know are safe. Like remember when she finally talked about Balenciaga really briefly on that random podcast. Like they have actually needed their own media outlet for a while and it's been obvious that it should be a podcast

and it should have happened a long time ago because I think they needed it more like over the last couple of years, whether it was hosted by Chris or Chloe. But they have the show. I guess the thing about the podcast is more immediate. But the show has not been real in a really long time. Like it has not been.

I guess, but also by the time they address things on the show, it's like, we're kind of over it. They do, they haven't been able to sell for like the immediate. Yeah. And I think this is good for that. We had said that like the show should have had much faster turnaround and been a little bit more substantial. We've been saying that for years and it never would.

So at this point it kind of just be, it became like fiction almost like fun to watch pretty girls do commercial like selling sunset. Exactly. It wasn't real. So I love this. I hope it's successful and I hope she likes doing it because podcasting is a lot of work and I think a lot of people end up not liking it. That's why there are so many failed podcasts. Like not only is it more work than you anticipated, but it's not as rewarding as you would think.

And it's actually hard to keep an audience. So if it's not even like doing that well, like I understand why a lot of people start them and don't pick them back up. So I hope she likes it. Yeah, agreed. They're also talking about how both of them like are not really dating until their kids are older.

Until each other. Well, they talked about the rumors and how they're unfounding. They would never be honest with us. They just can never do it, which is such a shame. Why could they never do it in your opinion? Cause I think Courtney would actually at this point be like not only okay with it,

I think she might encourage it. Like his kids are her nieces and nephews. But like, so? I don't know. No, I hear you. It would be like very non-traditional. I just, I also think, I actually think they could if they really fell in love,

but they just like, it's like a brother and sister. Yeah, yeah, I guess. It's like a brother and sister. Some of us are just still. We're still there. At the restaurant. Yeah. Some of us are just still. We're still there. At the restaurant. Yeah. So that drops today.

Enjoy. So that's the first episode? First episode with Scott that the podcast has premiered. So she's off to the races. Go Chloe. Not crazy about the title. I think it's cute. And she beat keeping up with sports

to the punch of launching a podcast. No, I forgot to tell you. I sent you a clip, keeping up with sports. You sent me a clip, Keeping Up With Sports. You sent me a clip, but like, there wasn't an episode, Claudia. They have an Instagram page, they had, you sent me the clip, I went to their page,

it was the only clip. Okay, but they had to have filmed something. I just don't know why it's so hard for them. Keeping Up With Sports. I'm just searching the podcast app. Yeah. I think I searched the pod, like I was ready. I was sat.

And you don't think- Keegan Jenner. Oh yeah, no, the sizzle reel came out March 2024. It's been a year. The reviews are so funny. Are they doing? Since the intro, I have heard nothing further. When are episodes coming?

That's so funny. I should follow it so that when the episode drops, I'll be the first to know. I don't know if it's like a when the episode drops. I think it's more of like if the episode drops. You don't think for the last year, like they've been working on the perfect first episode? No.

Like. No, I don't. I don't. I think she needs to have Lamar on. She's already beating Lamar. That's good. Are you ready for our next story? A bit of an update from yesterday's story about Twitch.

It's a third story, right? This is our third story, yes. So Twitch's ex-wife, Allison Holker, is addressing all of the criticism that she's received and saying that she believes Twitch would choose to share his story to help others. So she has shared a statement on her Instagram after facing criticism from her late husband's loved ones

and from social media ahead of the book's release on February 4th. She said, to fans of Stephen and our family and friends, I wanna be clear that my only intention in writing the book is to share my own story as well as part of my life with Stephen to help other people. Just like you, I never really knew what happened and even as I'm trying to put the pieces together,

I will never really know. If you decide to read the book, hopefully you'll see my intention is to celebrate the love and life I shared with Stephen and our three beautiful children and also the more complex aspects of both of our lives. I hope that by sharing our full story, maybe I can help someone else who might see themselves or a loved one in Stephen and sharing, I hope that by sharing our full story, maybe I can help someone else who might see themselves or a loved one in Steven and sharing, I hope maybe they catch some of the red flags that I missed before it's too late.

Okay. I, again, I'm coming into this saga with really no preconceived notions of any of them. And my inclination is like, if everybody's saying you're something, you're something. Do you know what I mean? Like all of former friends, family members, coworkers, like the amount of people who keep,

it's almost like someone was waiting for someone to say something. And then the first person said something and everybody felt like it was kind of like a green light to speak their minds. And the amount of people, like the sheer volume of it, I find powerful, I do. Yeah, I agree.

You know, she's very much focusing on this is her story. This is her truth. And while that might be the case, if you sit down and do an interview and the takeaway from the headlines is all about your husband's addiction, like I don't know how that's telling your story. Yeah.

And then also when she comes at it with like, I'm helping the next person, it's like hard to say, you know, that's just. The, the thing that I struggle with is like, we really don't know whether this person would want his addiction out there or not. And actually there are members of his family and friends who say there wasn't even an addiction,

but let's say that there is, right? Yeah. There's no way to know whether he would want it out there or not. So for her to just sort of like make this decision to publicize it without speaking to other people involved, like his mother and his brother, that gives me bad faith energy. Yeah, it's true. It's something that impacts everyone.

And so to not even have the conversation to get the approval of his family, It feels what people are, you know, what that woman Courtney is saying is like tacky and tasteless, it does. Yeah. And it, so much time has passed. People like weren't really, you know, wondering, it's not like there's been myriad documentaries, what happened? Like you could have just like let him rest in peace.

It's true. And instead now his name is literally being dragged through the news, like in the messiest possible way. It's really not only as an addict, but like family drama, his kids, the kids, like it's just it was clean and now it's messy. And was there a need for that? But also maybe she's got bills to pay. Well that's the other thing.

So I think that we can point to other examples of people who have actually like gotten a lot of fame after loss. And it's this weird line to walk, right? Because a lot of people followed your story. Like Amanda Klutz. When her husband died of COVID, that was like the saddest saga. Like everybody was following.

And it oddly made her a star. She went on to host the talk and she's like a swirly now. And whereas before she was like a fitness influencer. So it's definitely an odd trajectory to success. And I don't think anybody wants it, but it sometimes happens when your story is as powerful as it is.

And I think that Alison saw herself as like a bit of an Amanda Klutz. And I think that she got carried away. Yeah. Because the thing I actually really like about Amanda Kloots is like she's always remained really, she hasn't like leaned in heavily to like this weird version of fame that she has

and like run away with it. I think like she, it's an awkward weird place to be in and how you handled it, how you handle it will speak volumes of like how people receive you. And I just think these are two examples of people who handled it really differently. Yeah.

However, I haven't been keeping up with Alison Holker for the last three years since she passed away. So I don't know what she's been doing. Me neither, but I hear about her periodically, like just when she talks about. Yeah. So that must be like, it's tough when you get rewarded financially, fame wise for bringing up your tragedy.

And then it's easy to get like kind of carried away and become like tasteless. I guess for the last few years, like his family and friends have been watching it, like not saying anything, just being like, okay, maybe that's not what I would do. Like that's a little weird. Okay. But this. And then the book, and then his journal entry said

she's sharing like, it's gone too far. Yeah. Understood. Yeah. So the book is coming though. And that's the thing about books. Like when you announce them, like it's, by the time you-

They've been printed. By the time you announced it, that was like the Tommy Fury book, like poor timing. He had to add like an addendum to the memoir he had written being like, yeah, everything I wrote in here is like no longer true. I made a mistake. By the time you announce it,

whether there's backlash or anything, it's almost too late. I feel like that happened really, it's like Jamie Lynn Spears too. By the time she announced it, and also there was so much going on at the exact same time as Britney. It was like, we can't stop this train. Yes, but actually they changed the title of the book.

Whose? Jamie Lynn Spears. Remember she announced her memoirs and it was a Britney lyric and they're like, are you fucking kidding the title of the book. Whose? Jamie Lynn Spears. Remember she announced her memoirs and it was a Britney lyric and they're like, are you fucking kidding? And she changed it. Yeah, I guess you could change the lyric because it's the cover. And then also all of the drama, a lot of the drama from the book happened from the contents

of the book. So the book was published and then there's drama. And the press, the press that she was doing too. Yeah, but like not before where it's like, wait, can we not have the book come out anymore? Yeah, yeah. Yikes, it's kind of a risk, it's a gamble. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, number four? If it's number four, that's brought to you by Jenny Kane.

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Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Like a good neighbor, Steve, I miss there. I feel like both of ours were particularly beautiful today. I thought you were gonna say bad. I was like, okay, watch yourself. No, I thought like I heard something beautiful in mine and then yours as well. I always hear something beautiful

every time you open your mouth. Our next story, some lovely news. In the midst of all these breakups, the school of rock child stars who met on the set of the movie are getting married, they got married, sorry, 22 years after meeting on the set of the movie. So-

No, this is like actually too much to bear. Too much joy. Angelo Massagli and Caitlin Hale were just 10 years old when they met on the set of the movie. So- So Caitlin is the blonde, like sneaky brown noser with a hidden agenda. She sings memory. All alone. She's one of summer's girls. That's Miranda's Cosgrove. She sings that. Yeah. No, but she's like one of her, her name is Marta in the movie. She's a backup singer.

Yeah. And then Angelo is classic. You guys know him. He was security head of security. He was like that really tall broad kid. kid. He looks exactly the same. Yeah, it's actually they all do. I was able to recognize pretty much every single one of them that was there. Obviously notably missing was Miranda Cosgrove. I wonder- And Jack Black, but he was on the set of a movie they said

and he totally like reached out and commemorated it privately and like would have been there if he could have. Oh wait, I love that. I thought for sure like he wasn't even invited because of all of them. Like he's literally like a mega mega star. How did they even get his address? I don't know, but nine cast members went to their wedding.

I saw everyone. I saw Zach. I saw, I'm not cool enough. I saw the girl on the base. Cello, you've got a base. You got a base. I love this story like seriously so much. No, same.

It's really cute. They actually like reconnected later in life. They didn't like start dating on the set of the movie. That's good. They both like went to college in Florida and Q-necked, went to lunch, and then like there was something there, was the start of something new.

That's like seriously so crazy and so cute. The thing I can't get over is, like when you look at pictures of like kids from high school, I mean, kids from like, what were they? They were in like the fifth grade. What are they supposed to be? Last, third grade? No, like probably like, maybe.

No, not middle school. Not middle school, not middle school, hold on. I'm sure I could just. They were probably in the third grade. They were 10 years old. How old are you when you're in what grade are you in? Seriously, there's no way to know. Hey Siri, what grade are you in when you're 10 years old?

Sorry, I don't understand, me neither. You're in fifth grade. No one does. Fifth. So where was I going with this point? Oh, you know, like someone you knew in fifth grade, like what they look like now is completely different. Like they're actually recognizable. The crazy thing was I haven't seen a picture of any of these people in years. They look exactly how they should look like they have the same face, but they're just grown up. It was freaky. It is, it's so crazy.

They look, yeah. They look like they just grew. This movie, I feel like sometimes, I was just having this conversation with a friend, like movies that you loved as a kid, like they really don't hold up. Which friend? Yeah, I have a lot of friends.

They really don't stand the test of time. She's talking to a friend. They don't. They don't, and. Which friend? Yeah, I have a lot of friends. They really don't stand the test of time. She's talking to a friend. They don't. They don't. And I actually remember, I've seen School of Rock like a bunch of times since I had first fallen in love with it, but actually during COVID, one of Ben's friends

was trying to celebrate his birthday and there was like nothing you could really do. But you remember how you used to be able to rent a movie theater because they couldn't sell tickets to a movie. So instead they would, I think it was $99 to rent a movie theater. So couldn't sell tickets to a movie. So instead they would, I think it was $99 to rent a movie theater.

So he rented a movie theater and invited like 20 people. We all sat in this huge theater and you could like bring your own food and drinks and you could choose your own movie. And he chose School of Rock. And like, let me tell you that movie, like if I was seeing it for the first time, I would have thought it was brilliant.

Yeah. It is a classic timeless piece of comedy. No, it is. It holds up and the older you are, like the more you understand and just like it's so good. And then the ground it laid for so many celebrities. Like obviously that was a big moment for Miranda Cosgrove. Ned Stieble is the creator of White Lotus. Sarah Silverman is his miserable girlfriend. Like there are a lot of people. Joan Cusack. Joan Cusack. Yes. But I also then in seeing this picture and the child stars I kind of went nowhere. But they also look like happy and thriving. They look well adjusted. I actually think they all went on to lead completely normal lives with just this like fun fact about themselves. So I wonder like where they're maybe just they petered out,

but so she is an OB GYN sonographer and he works as a music product counts as a music product council for TikTok. I don't know what that means. Music product council. Okay. So it sounds like they both went on to do things like their characters were going to do like life imitating art. He was really into the industry of the music,

music industry sort of from afar. And she was, what does she know, she's an OBGYN. She was always a woman who supported other women. 1,000%. I can see it. She's very pretty, she looked beautiful on her wedding day. She's a stenographer, you should go see her. I think that they live in New Jersey,

they got married in New Jersey. Oh my God, well the girl who played the bass, she had the most Instagram stories, she was filming in New Jersey. Oh my God. Well, the girl who played the base, like she had the most Instagram stories, like she was filming the entire thing. Like the wedding looked so fun. They were all at the same table. Like it was seriously too much. It's kind of a good premise for a movie.

Claudia was just thinking that, like that movie table 19. Yeah. But they all get back together from like this movie that they shot as kids and like, yeah, I like it. I like it too. Maybe that's like the school of rock sequel. Like two of the classmates are getting married.

Two things, they need to never make a school of rock sequel. Like sequels ruin things. They made it into a Broadway show and that's fine. Like just leave it alone. Two, when I was on my way to Florida, actually, I was like seriously gonna faint in the back of this car. So I pulled over in some random town in New Jersey on my way to the airport and I got pizza and while I was driving through town it was like this actually

very cute quaint town there was like a music school like an after-school program in town called the school of rock and it had like the same exact logo and they like to guitar lessons and drum lessons like for people in town it was so cute. Oh cute I thought you were gonna say that you passed by the park Chateau estate and Gardens in East Brunswick because that's where they got married. I didn't. I mean, I might've, but I don't know.

So mazel tov to the happy couple. And thank you like for sharing this joy with us. Yeah. Yeah. Our physical- So if you wanna be the teacher to me, well baby, you just better forget it. Oh, and the original music from that movie was amazing too.

Rock got no reason, rock got no rhyme. You better get me to school on time. Yeah! So good. Yeah. So good. Our fifth and final story, it's our last story, celebrates the best of the industry.

The industry at its best, the school of rock and love. Our fifth story celebrates the worst because a new docu-series on the fall of Diddy is coming to investigation discovery on January 27th and 28th. It is called the fall of Diddy and it will cover the sexual misconduct allegations against Diddy

and is set to feature interviews from some of his former colleagues and employees, as well as some of his accusers. So the press release states, "'Through these interviews and combined with a vast collection of our archival footage, the Fall of Diddy paints a holistic picture of a mogul who is alleged to have wielded his extensive power and influence to obscure for decades a pattern of abuse and violence that left an unprecedented amount of pain and suffering in his wake.

Among those interviewed for the docu-series were Dee Woods, who was a member of Danity Kane, as well as several former employees who worked for the music mogul, including his former driver, who alleges that Combs once tried to bribe him. Also interviewed are two of his accusers, Rodney Lilrod Jones, who we've talked about like his suit against Diddy, and Talia Graves, both of whom have sued Diddy, accusing him of sexual misconduct. So obviously the Diddy story is huge, right? Everyone's talking about it. It's like the biggest story of last year and probably this year. But something about a documentary that really spells it out for people,

because we're all reading the headlines, and not a lot of us are reading the entire lawsuit or the entire article. So I think that if this documentary, sometimes documentaries come out and they don't make waves, but sometimes they start movements. Nickelodeon. Right.

If it has that effect, like I think it'll be really powerful and I also think it'll be really damaging for his case. Cause like you have to think about people who watch that. Like they become jury members, you know? Cause I just watched juror number two. I'm thinking a lot about juries. Oh, don't, don't, I'm going to watch it.

So don't spoil anything about it. Do you know what it's about? No, and I don't want to know. I didn't know either. And like when I figured it out, I was like, are you kidding? It's really crazy. But I do think like jury members who have seen

something like this, like wouldn't be eligible for a jury because they would be coming in with biases. But it influences, like even if you haven't seen it, like everybody's talking about it to every headline, like it influences public opinion in a way, or say in some way. Yeah, I do think like Diddy will hopefully like receive the justice that he deserves.

But what like is a little frustrating about this case is like, it's so much bigger than Diddy. There are so many people at every party. There are so many, he's trafficking people to whom? To his powerful friends who are people whose names we might know who are, we might be fans of, we might be buying their products and they're horrible criminal people. And like, we need to know more of like,

who worked with him, who, this is not something that one person does on his own. No, it's true. Like we know Diddy is bad now and he's going to get the justice he deserves. Like we have been, no one's going to go into a room alone with him. No one's like just, no one's advocating for Diddy.

Like, right. But now it's, I mean, that's exactly what happened with Jeffrey Epstein. And we never got resolution, it's, I mean, that's exactly what happened with Jeffrey Epstein, and we never got resolution, and it's so frustrating, and I imagine the two circles are connected, you know? Because it's the same group of people, like powerful, influential people with money,

not just in Hollywood, but in politics, and in business, and world leaders, like every Prince Andrew, like every possible sector that you can think of, so it is really frustrating, and that's not to discount the allegations against him and the justice that we seek to seek, but it's so much bigger than that. You're so right, and we shouldn't lose sight of the list.

So I hope that this documentary names names. Yeah, but the thing is, a network like ID or Netflix, nope, you put yourself, oh my God, sometimes words just don't come to me. You make yourself a target like legally to make claims. They did it with the Nickelodeon one. Like they were telling, like they were naming names, Dan Schneider, even though there wasn't like

a serious allegation against him. Like this was this pattern of behavior, I told a story. So yeah. And then also like when Drake Bell shared what happened to him, like he's naming names. Yeah. But that guy's already in jail. Brian pack. Like, so he is, he was in jail. And then remember he got rehired by Disney after going to jail for like child. Right. But where is he now? Is he dead? Did he die?

It's feeling dead. Hopefully. I don't know, like it's a tough spot, I think, for someone to take on. Yeah, but I think that will make the difference of like how much impact this documentary has. Is it new information or are you just like packaging it together for someone

who's not reading everything and doesn't really know what's happened? Because there have been like whispers about certain celebrities and I think the only other actual accusation that was made was Jay-Z. Which by the way, I was watching Beyonce's halftime performance, which I just really,

like really, really enjoyed. I have like beautiful things to say. And as I was watching it, I was like, oh my God, I totally forgot. Because I don't really think of her in like Jay-Z so much anymore. I feel like they kind of live separate lives, but like that's literally her husband.

And like he was literally accused of like, a 13 year old. And it's just like, it's really crazy. Yeah. So we'll see if this blows the case wide open. Yeah. I just feel like we've like barely scratched the surface and I'm not like so excited about just a surface scratch.

Like there's a lot of bad nefarious behavior in this town and like, do you want to do something about it or do you not? Yeah. And I feel like there's actually so many similarities to Jeffrey Epstein because like now any picture Diddy has with a celebrity, it's like, look, look, and that happened a lot with like, Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't care about a picture that anyone took. I think a lot of people went to Diditty parties and they were upstairs being normal,

having, you know, doing cocaine and drinking champagne, not downstairs trafficking kids. Like, so anytime there's like a picture, it's like, look, he's bad. Same with Ghislaine Maxwell. They were like, look, Carol Roswell knew Ghislaine. Like, they just have a picture with these people. So I think it's like, it's getting lost.

And you're right, I totally even forgot about like the network behind him. Right, like, and you need people to traffic too. It's not just him and himself. Behind every powerful trafficker, there's like a network of individuals making it happen. No, and a network of individuals who are his clients. Well, that was the craziest thing about like,

Jeffrey, I've seen in Galeen, they're like arrested for human trafficking and there's no one, who did they, then it's like, okay. The customers. Keep going. Yeah. One step further. Right, but like these people are still in their own way protected.

And it's just frustrating. Yes, it really is. It's a good point. And it's also so crazy to think about the fact that like P. Diddy, like we keep talking about him. He's like literally in jail. Love that. Yeah.

But it's just, he's literally in jail. Yeah. So crazy. Where he should be. Lock him up. Throw away the key. That's our show. Good stories today.

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