The Toast - Another Unprecedented Friday Friday November 14th 2025

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

1. Mormon Wives' Jessi Ngatikaura Admits to Affair Amid Separation From Husband Jordan Ngatikaura (E! Online) (16:07) 2. Brooks Nader Reacts to Romance Rumors With Secret Lives of Mormon Wives' Dakot...a Mortensen (E! Online) (21:49) 3. Meghan Markle, Prince Harry Were Never Asked to Sign Photo Consent Forms at Kris Jenner's Birthday Party (PEOPLE) (24:48) 4. ‘Wicked’: Man Who Grabbed Ariana Grande on Singapore Red Carpet Charged in Court (Variety) (36:21) 5. Vine Is Coming Back (HypeBeast) (39:39) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:18 X and Claude. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Friday. Now let me tell you something about today's Go host.
Starting point is 00:00:45 The only person I would let record at 2 p.m. Eastern Time. That's only because she's been split right down the middle. It's Jackie. Oh, hi, hi, oh, hi to you. So excited to be here on my podcast. It doesn't feel like mine today. It feels like I'm doing your podcast today. Yeah, we're also using new equipment, so, like, it just feels so different.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Everything is different. We're podcasting, like, in chairs in my room. Usually when we do audio only, it's like from the bed because it has to be. But because we got this new equipment, we can sit in chairs in my room. Yeah, we took a trip to Guitar Center. And we, I did not take a trip to the Guitar Center. I've been home. And even though I'm podcasting, it's a very like cozy, chilled environment, just nursed.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No audio. I have, you know, a couple hours ahead of me to just chit chat with my girl. That's me. And Claude's co-host for today fell through like a really full. She actually did fall through. Like really flaky girl. So fucking flaky, that trout. It was trout.
Starting point is 00:01:44 By the way, me and the trout are cursed because last Friday was supposed to be trout. And then it was her and Ben, which we have to talk about like the first ever episode where neither of us showed up. Unprecedented times. And then this Friday was supposed to be trout two days ago. She was like, listen, I really can't make work. I'm like, oh, it's totally fine. Like I'll pick up Ben, Margo. Everyone's here.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And then Jackie was like yesterday. You know, Claudia, I could maybe do a patron tomorrow. I said, well, you know what? My 10 o'clock actually fell through. to Guitar Center, we go. Could you do the main show? So, Jackson is here. We're going to catch up, of course.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We're going to do Fast 5, but I also want to talk about what's been going on in the toast realm, what's been going on in the world. I know you've tuned into a lot of the maternity episodes. If you guys haven't seen Jackie's Instagram yet, she gave birth. I gave birth. And I wanted to, before I came on the toast, like, have all of my past week, actually month, like, sort of backlog. So I posted everything to Patreon today.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I've been working on, like, a vlog for the last month of, like, my last weeks of pregnancy, which, like, wound of just the vlog wound up being, like, not what I thought it was going to be. A roller coaster. Yeah. Because the end of my pregnancy, like, turned out to be like much longer than I thought it was going to be. Not to spoil anything. Don't you dare. It's all in the vlog. And then Claudia and I this week also recorded my birth story. So like, what happened once I got to the hospital? You podcasted the week you gave birth and then twice the week after you gave birth. Yes. But it's like, I love this job and I want to like. And I'm just like sitting in bed talking. We're sitting in bed talking. It's like let's just record. And if I,
Starting point is 00:03:05 if I didn't feel up to it, I wouldn't put myself up to it. But. But this is like in this moment fun. I don't have to like go up. By the way, I can't walk up the stairs. Right, which is why we need to go to a guitar center. And I certainly can't walk down the stairs. I think walking down would be harder. I've been telling you for years to just get like a handicapable ramp on that set of stairs.
Starting point is 00:03:24 This might be the time if like if I don't get better soon. Right. So everything about like the birth and when and how and how it all happened is in Patreon. Two episodes dropped today also on Prince of. Right. This has been the month of unprecedented. Unprecedentedation. Yeah, Olivia and Ben being on the toast on Friday and people loving it more than any episode we've ever dropped. Like, okay, hurtful. Every comment. Olivia and Ben need to start a podcast. B.S.C. and Trout, when is the pod coming? I saw a comment that was like, I wish this was the toast every day. And it's like, that's not the toast then.
Starting point is 00:03:59 No, that's also extremely hurtful. Yeah, like, then they should have their own, which they could have their own podcast, but that's not the toast. Yeah. It's not the toast. You know what? I had a pit because I was like sick and you were out. I was like, oh, is this going to be a bad episode? Will the sponsors, you know, pitch forks? Oh my God, I think it was our most downloaded episode to date.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Every sponsor was part of that episode is extremely blessed. I'm cracking up. And that wound up being the day that I gave birth. So I feel like we're really like off the hook because like one host was giving birth. So can we talk about like the news we're making? I don't know if you. I mean, you do know this because even though you're not on TikTok, it's actually made its way to you. People are obsessed with our episode with Bethany.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Can I just say? before we talk about what people are saying, I've watched it twice now. I was obsessed with it. I was so excited that you were having her on. Like I think she's the perfect co-host, like you said on the show, has strong opinions.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Everything she says and does makes news. Like she can't help it. Like literally. Everything she touches turns to gold. So I was like, she's going to be a great co-host. And I loved her episode. I was cackling.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I love strong hot takes, even if I don't agree with them. Agree with them. Though I feel aligned with her on most things. So that wasn't like an issue. I thought, was an amazing episode, such a sleigh. Everyone's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And I have to say, and I said this on the episode with Jared Fried, and I actually really did mean it, I had the best time doing the episode. Like, she's so sure of herself. You know what I mean? Like, she knows who she is and she leans into it. And you know what? You do have to give her credit because everyone's making fun of her. We were just talking about this before we started recording.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Everyone's making fun of her for saying, like, you know, I invented this and I invented that. But you know what? She did invent the skinny margarita. And then she said, I coined the term food noise. And I'm like, oh, my God, L. Well, she's like crazy. Meanwhile, I actually took it upon myself to do a little bit of research and let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:05:42 one of the first recorded uses of that term is 2009 in her book. I'm actually going to make a TikTok about it because I feel bad. She's like getting dragged. She actually might have invented it. I'm being dead serious. I have done, guys, ask chatGBT because they'll say, I'll explain this on my TikTok. The first academic use of it was 2023. I'm like, okay, well, what about before that?
Starting point is 00:05:58 They say she used it in her book in 2013 and 2009. And then the only other recorded use of the term was in a very obscure medical like peer review in 2005. she actually is one of the first people to use that phrase, just saying. And in 2010, she used it in an interview with extra TV. Yeah, so 2009, 2010, and 2013 are like, it's all on record of her using the phrase as an anxiety and like lots of thoughts around food. Right. And then after that, we didn't hear it until Oprah, shame, blame in the weight loss game.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Jackie's favorite episode of TV ever. And I didn't think Oprah coined it, but I thought like that was where it sort of got popularized. But no, she's dead on. Yeah. When she said it, I was like, how? But I do forget, like, that was, now we know her as, like, TikTok, beauty girl. That's her beat. But skinny is, like, her thing.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Skinny tinks. Diet, food, culture, weight loss. Like, that's really her thing. She was a natural food chef. Yeah, but it's, like, it makes sense. Everything she says and does, like, just goes crazy on the internet. And I guess people are having a feel day. But I saw, like, so many toasters love it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It was so to be so to much fun. We watched it twice when I got home. We watched it twice. I was like, Jackie, go back. Like, too, like Claudia. walking in and out of my rooms, we wound up watching it again the next day. And then Jared Fried. Jared Fried.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I love him. He was one of my favorite co-hosts. First of all, hysterical. Yeah. Second of all, Ben. Yeah. Ben. And when he said he got dressed up because he saw Bethany was so dressed up and I, like, made a comment about it.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Like, I love that he, like, listened to the episode so he knew to do his homework. I'm sorry, I love him. When I come back, which I probably will before the end of the year, I'm going to have him come again. No, he's such a great co-host. Yeah. Like, kind of a dream. Yeah. Like, goaded.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Goate it. So kind of Jack's maternity leave is going extremely well. We miss you. So glad to have you here. Also lots of news. So the stories are, they're good. And they cover a couple of things like that are a little bit old,
Starting point is 00:07:48 but I wanted to talk to you about like Megan Markle at Chris Jenner's birthday party. Actually, I chose them a while ago. I forget what I even chose. And you know what? There's been a lot going on in pop culture, like in the weeks that I've been off. And like, so much of it, I'm like so glad that I don't have to muster up a fuck to give. Right, right. Let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:08:02 There's a lot of good stories. Yes. I'm obsessed with the Megan. Harry pictures from the 70th birthday party. Claudia, like the way that you... Oh, actually, yeah, no, I did choose it. The way that, like, on your dying, like, yeah, Bethlehett, you just want to know what happened in the elevator with Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:08:16 With Beyonce and Jean Solangea. I want to know the real reason, not conjecture. I even though I thought Bethany had a pretty good take, even though, I mean, maybe I'm just so biased because I love them. Like, everyone, the Crem de la Crem was at the party. Oprah was at that party. Like, it wasn't low brow. So the idea that they would go to the party that it was good enough.
Starting point is 00:08:37 for them to go to but not be seen at doesn't totally make sense to me agreed there's a theory that like it was a certain it's like remembrance veterans day vibe in britain and that's why harry was wearing that red pin and she wasn't wearing one so they didn't want there are a couple of different theories floating around and i have a story because like their teams are fighting now the marcoe team and the car dashing team and the thing is the pictures were already out there so deleting them just makes it so much worse could they seriously be that stupid yes to think that taking the pictures down changes. Means that they're gone.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Means that they weren't at the party and that we don't know. I do think that they could be that stupid. I know. I don't believe it. I'm just letting you know that's what I think. I don't believe it and I need to know. And if anybody knows, like, and I'm a steel trap, I will never say. But like for my own peace of mind, help us.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I just want to know so badly because it makes no sense. It is so poorly handled. It's such a bigger deal now. We wouldn't have even just let the pictures go. Like they're so, not, they're one in a carousel of 100. And didn't they go to another event that night? Baby to baby. So it's like, okay, you did your philanthropy.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You did a big night out for the night. It's actually funny. Bethany said you can't ride two horses at the same time, but there they were. They did their philanthropy and they partied with the Kardashians. A hundred percent. And nobody was mad that they were there. Are you watching anything at TV right now? Not really.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I watched Chad Powers before I gave birth. And did you like? I did like it. It was funny. And your husband loved it too, right? Yeah, we both really liked it. It was cute. Just finished.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And I do not recommend you watch it. It is not a postpartum-friendly show. I mean, I still feel postpartum, and I was having, like, a lot of anxiety. It's called All Her Fault on Peacock. Everyone's talking about it. Shavon. Yeah, I've seen a lot of...
Starting point is 00:10:15 Don't watch it. It's not for you. I've seen a lot of commentary on it about how, like, it really highlights, you know, the silent burden of women. Yes, it does. Male incompetence. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's weaponized incompetence to the nth degree. And how, like, when the dad is watching the kids, like, it's called babysitting, but, like, you would never say that when a mother is with her children. Okay, so that was my favorite part of the show, like really the burden of womanhood. And I feel like actually it penetrated to Ben. Like he was like, oh my God, that husband's such a dick.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I'm like, yeah, he is. The show was amazing. Like we just finished it last night. We stayed up, I haven't stayed up till midnight like in probably three months. We stayed up till midnight two nights ago, almost finishing all the episodes. It was excellent. It was given the vibe that it was based off of a book. But it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It was just like giving one of those books because it's like a thriller. Understood. Well, now Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is out. So like I'll probably watch that next whenever I watch TV. I guess when you guys leave, I'll be watching more TV. but right now I'm just like hanging with my fam. I started Secret Lives of Mormon Wines last night, and actually that's a great segue into what could be our first story.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Okay. If you want. Yeah, let's get into the stories. Okay. I'm not afraid. So let me ask you a question, Jacks. Are you ready for the fast five stories that you need to know? I am.
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Starting point is 00:16:24 when she came on the show okay so do you know what's going on like at all. There's rumors that she's getting divorced. Her house is for sale. That's about it. And so in the first episode, I don't believe, I believe this was news already. It wasn't news like from the episode.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I believe it came out already, but the whole Marciano thing. So there was so many questions last season. Like did he hook up with? To me, he actually had a brief emotional affair and a little bit physical with Jesse. That's what he says. And Jesse has admitted in the first episode.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, so what she says And so I only got through the first episode And a half last night Which was really all about that Is that, yeah, Layla heard it And she actually has a really good friend Did not tell any of the other women, didn't film it Went into a car and brought Jessie and was like,
Starting point is 00:17:13 Listen, this is what he's saying. And she starts crying. She's like, no, it's true. Like me and what's her husband's name? Justin? No. Jordan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Me and Jordan have been going through a really, really rough time For like two years. We actually took a break. And yeah, I had an emotional affair. When I went to L.A., we actually made out twice. And Jordan's known about it for like six months. We're working through it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 And it's like been one of the worst things we've ever dealt with. And like now he's, but the only thing is that Marciano's telling everybody that they had sex. She's like, I swear to God we do not have sex. He's like, I woke up with comstains in my pants. Like what are you talking about? She's like, you got so drunk, you fell asleep. Like there, what exactly happened is very much up for debate.
Starting point is 00:17:49 But Jesse's not shying away from this. And she's proving herself to be honest. I know. So like if you're going to come truthful about the whole thing, Like, she keeps calling it an affair. And she, like, kissed someone twice when she was separated. Like, that's not really an affair. She's, like, making it worse.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So, I don't know. I do believe her. Yeah, I'm inclined to believe her. So now, though, there's like, and this, I'm having a hard time, like, figuring out, like, the timelines, because it's before dancing with the stars. Mm-hmm. So it's, like, a while ago.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Macy and Michaela are still, they're 20 weeks pregnant. And they just gave her. It's, like, very long time ago. Yeah, okay. Because it also happened, like, right after, the first half of the season dropped in May. Mm-hmm. And this was the next day.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Got it. And that was filmed. They had the Halloween party that season. So it was like late last year into, oh, they had the Christmas party. So it's like early 2025. Okay. So now this story is that not only is her secret out, but there's rumors that they actually are headed for divorce.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Their house is up for sale. And according to the mom talker, she and Jordan, who shared two kids together, both have made mistakes for sure. So it's giving like he also fucked up. She said, mine being the affair and his being the emotional abuse. but it takes two to tango. So again, I'm only one episode in. I don't know what she's talking about.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But I find this really shocking. It is shocking. I thought they had like one of the better marriages. Yeah. I'm just. And they also, they have a lot of money. That was interesting when they all talk about money.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah. That they talk about Jesse. Like she's the richest because I think Jay Z. Stiles is very successful. Yeah. I'm, I'm with her. Like I love her.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Me too. I, whatever's best for her. But like that's really tough to go through. And they also have like young five and two. Yeah. It's underrated that she has a two-year-old. She was saying this when she was on the toes.
Starting point is 00:19:30 They filmed the first season. She was like a couple months postpartum. Oh, damn. Yeah. Or like maybe she'd had a one-year-old. But like, I don't, she doesn't give new mama vibes. She gives like, I've got it all together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:41 She really does. Did you also see that she gave her daughter bangs? No, I didn't. Yeah. Like she, her daughter has just like a lot of hair and she's like platinum blonde and she like gave her daughter bings. She looks so cute. I think I did see that.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It was a while ago. No, like a month. Maybe a month. Yeah, yeah. That's a while ago on the internet for me. Well, I just want to say, I hope she doesn't get divorced. I hope so too. I feel like they are, when they're good, they're a good couple.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And hopefully the things that wrong that have happened can be repaired. And I'm sorry, but if Whitney and Connor can keep it together. What a testament. What a testament to commitment. 1,000%. Oh, the best part of the first episode of Sacred Lives and Mormon Wives is pretty much the entire episode takes place at an influencer event. And you know what the brand is? The toast.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Minky Couture. Basically. Minky Couture, one of our sponsors. Oh my God. Minky Couture has just been the goat this week. Yeah. Should we tell everyone? I have fresh minkies for everyone in my house.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Of course, of course. Everyone's like living the lap of luxury. And they also sent us a gift. They sent us a really pargy gift. And actually in the episode, it'll make sense. People, if you watch the episode, they're at their influencer event. The DJ is like playing music. And every time he rings a bell, you have to like run and touch a number.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And if you're on the number that he calls out, they're giving away designer bags. Which is like a hilarious fun thing for a party and lo and behold what shows up at our doorstep for being such amazing partners of minky kator you guys they sent us to probably the most beautiful chanelle bags i've ever seen yeah and and we were stunned and also we didn't know like whose was for who yeah we got to choose but you got to choose first because you were the reason i believe i believe they said they sent the bags because they were grateful that i said they were the chanelle bags of blankets to joey camasta to which jackie you know beautifully replied that i should have said they were the burghins of blankets
Starting point is 00:21:23 So we could have gotten some workans. I'm totally kidding. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. So grateful. And so that's like Claudia got to choose hers first, but they were both so parchedy. Claudia, actually, it was a burden to choose. I was glad I didn't have to make a choice.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I was actually thinking maybe leaving it down in Florida. Like, I could be my Florida bag and we could share both. Oh, cute. I always need a bag here. You do. Right. You've been borrowing mine. I have.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I've been borrowing a couple of Jackie's purses. Let me say. Very nice. Very nice things. So a good segue into the next story is a little bit still secret lives of Mormon wives, but it's more so a Brooks Nader subset. But I'm sure you saw her making news. There was like a Hulu event for the Secret Lives Girls and they invited like other Hulu talent who happened to be in New York, which is Brooks Nader
Starting point is 00:22:07 and her sisters. The women who are saving reality TV event. Rescue our television. Somebody filmed like from the like a little sneaky video. Grace Ann Nader and she posted it. Oh, it was Gannibal? It was Gannimal. Of course it was. That's what I saw. Okay. Her her. Brooks was talking. Her username at the bottom. Having a conversation with Dakota, who is Taylor's ex and baby daddy. And everyone, like the video went so viral because it looks like they're flirting. It's like, oh, is this Brooks's like new man?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Are you kidding me? Like, yucky? She would never. You're telling me, like, how people think that like she's clearly just a girl who like flirts with a wall, right? And like the way she talks, she's just like exude sexiness. So she can be talking to me. I'm like, oh, she wants to have sex in me.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Like, she's just that sexy. in no fucking world. This is a girl who dated Tom Brady. Please, you think she would ever give this guy a second look? And it's not even like he's like the greatest guy because I could understand going for a regular. Right. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Because he's going to be the guy who steps up. But that's not Dakota. No, he's like the worst like cheater loser ever. Oh my God, you guys, please stop. And everyone was tagging me and it'd be like, oh my God, they're dating. Are you guys serious? No, they're not dating. But who she might be dating, which I ship wholeheartedly, is Sean White.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So they were spotted chatting it up at Alice and Olivia then. And it was also the same day that Nina Dobra, I've, like, posted this, like, very, yeah, very salty TikTok. And so people think that they might be connected. She's been making, like, a lot of content seemingly about him. I just want to say I ship Bricks and Aider and Sean White. I don't ship, but, like, that's better. We're getting warmer here.
Starting point is 00:23:49 From Dakota, you mean? We're getting warmer. I saw that she was in the car talking to him outside the car. I don't feel like they're dating. I feel like once again she talked to someone. She exudes flirtatiousness. She's just that girl, right? Like she can't talk to you without a rumor starting.
Starting point is 00:24:02 So she's talking to a single man, like they are flirting. Yeah. Now whether she's going to like make a go of it, I don't think so. But I think she's just enjoying all that the city has to offer. I love that. And didn't you buy a townhouse? She did. It's parjee.
Starting point is 00:24:19 It is extremely part-jee. I told this, I think, when Margo was on, and I'm sure you didn't watch it, and I don't think I told you this, even an offline. I don't know if you know, I'm on Brooks Nader's close friends list. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:29 And I can tell you, like, it's, it's been really amazing. Just like, let me know if there's anything I need to know. Of course. Of course. But I'm sure it's just like more Brooks. I'm sure. It's a lot of Brooks and it's a lot of sisters.
Starting point is 00:24:42 That's so fun. So you don't think that they're dating. Not at the moment. I think they just met. Let's follow along. Okay. Well, next up, let's just talk about what we've been dying to talk about, Megan Markle and Prince Harry.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So they're going back and forth with the Kardashians now because the photos were taken down. And when Bethany was on, we were like, well, did she ask him to get taken down or did the Kardashians not want to be seen? There were a lot of rumors. And then Megan Markle and Prince Harry said, no, no, no, we didn't sign the consent forms that were being sent around. They said that? Yes, so we don't approve of these photos. Now the Kardashians say, what forms? What are you even talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:14 So Megan Markle, Prince Harry, were never asked. I don't think they could be so stupid as to just, just. I have a straight up lie. So Megan Markle, Prince Harry, according to People magazine, were never asked to sign photo consent forms at Chris Jenner's birthday party an exclusive source has revealed. So here's what I think happened. I believe the show is filmed.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I'm sorry, the party was filmed for the show. And everybody was signing forms to be on the show, which they did not sign, which I totally respect. And I think they got confused. No, reality TV is not good enough for them. I think they got confused, but the forms. That's what I think that. That's a good theory because I was like you can't be that stupid as to tell a bold face lie.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And also, and I forget who I was saying this with, people don't realize Beyonce was at the party because she and she managed to get in without paparazzi, which means it could have been done. There was like a way for people who didn't want to be spotted outside. Megan and Harry chose to not only go to the party, but take the route that dropped them off by the gate, by the paparazzi. So they wanted to be seen there. Everybody knew they were there. It wasn't a secret. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Really. I have no idea. No idea. Especially because the pictures are out. They're screenshoted. whether it was because of his baldness and like they didn't like how they looked like they were already out now we're zooming in like now we're like well what are they hiding everybody's looking at the photos 10 times more we were just scrolling past before yeah and like them being there was not even
Starting point is 00:26:31 headline news that's where they should be they were in a sea of other like a listers and billionaires so people magazine were the ones that said the photos were deleted because the duo checked no on a consent form however a source close to the event now tells people magazine that is not the case there were no consent forms. Okay, but I'm going with the TV show thing. It's not a good theory. I think it's a great theory because the other one doesn't make sense. I also like my mom, Bethany said that Nicole Sanchez is Megan Marco without rules.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I was on the floor. And it's such a good call. Like you get to this level of wealth and fame and you could do two ways with it. Like Megan takes herself so seriously. She's so like particular about where she goes, but she wears who she sees. Whereas like Nicole Sanchez got, what's her name? Lauren. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Lauren Sanchez got access to this whole other world and is having the time of her fucking life And the thing is like Megan actually doesn't have any rules They left the royal family She's not constrained by rules Like she's constrained by her own like mental idea Of what she should be But like if you were gonna play by some like fake set of rules
Starting point is 00:27:33 You should have stayed in the royal family 1,000% They're just really not It's they're like sucking Like I don't know what the word I'm looking for is They're just really like screwing I feel like everything they're doing is bad But like, it is.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And you're right. I remember when she started like making content on Instagram and you were like, no, I think it's her. I'm like, there's no way. She's definitely paying this like big agency. I think a lot of what's wrong with their image from the projects they choose to the content they put out to just everything is I think that they're at the helm of everything that they do.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Because they think they're smarter. Yes. And they know better than everyone. And true smart people like know when to outsource when it comes to content. And I think that they're doing everything themselves. And you're right. They know nothing about the world. Harry's never lived in the real world, first of all.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He probably doesn't even know how to use a credit card. And she just has like very high hopes and ideals of what they should look like. And it's just, it's not working. Yeah. And I want to say like, I think the content's getting worse. Definitely. That's why every time I see a picture. I'm like, I can't believe I thought she paid an agency.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You are 100% right when you said that. It is all DIY. And it's giving DIY. It's getting like DIY. I'm sorry she doesn't post a throwback Thursday at this point. Like she's living in a. another time. Did you see that on Veterans Day?
Starting point is 00:28:48 What? She posted that video. What video? So there is like a very famous old viral, like back when viral was a thing, video of Harry. When he was in the army, he's doing like an interview. And then he runs off. And he runs off. And it's like it's been made into a meme actually.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It's like when you smell mom's cooking or something. And like you get you stop in the middle of whatever you're doing and you run. But in what it really was was he was called to service. And it was like a, I guess it's, you know, it's very. representative of whatever. And so on Veterans Day, she posted, like, as my husband always says, you know, once serving, always serving, thank you to everybody. You serve like a lovely Veterans Day tribute.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And then it was a carousel to that video, which is just so crazy. Because first of all, isn't Veterans Day like American? Well, they have remembrance, but she posted it for Veterans Day. But it seems like they were the same day this year or something. It was giving the same week. It was giving the same week, but it did feel very close. So, like, I'm going to, I don't know for sure they weren't the same day. Let me check what day she posted on.
Starting point is 00:29:44 one. Okay. Is she at Megan on Instagram? Uh, or Duchess. No, she's Megan. Okay. Okay, Madonna. So she posted the video. Oh, it wasn't. It was just the, but first of all, it was the first one. It wasn't the swipe to Carousel. How many followers would you think she has?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Two million? Four. I feel like she should have more, no? Oh, I guess. Like, but I guess she didn't take her, like, Duchess of Sussex handle with her. Right. Okay, yes. So she was just, I was posting it three days ago. That was Veterans Day. We were just saying that $4 million is a good number to have. We weren't.
Starting point is 00:30:20 No, we said $6 million. No, but also four. Like, four is better than 10. Yeah, we were saying in a dream world, we would rather have 6 million followers than 10 million followers. Because 10 million is giving bought. Six is a little high. I feel like four is the highest you can go without being like a soccer player.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Right. Okay, so here's what you wrote three days ago, which was Veterans Day, mind you. As my husband says, once served, always served. Thank you to all who served, sacrificed and continue to serve. honoring you on Veterans Day and every day. So the first picture in the carousel was the video. And then the second is a picture of Harry and a fellow veteran, like an older guy, who's
Starting point is 00:30:55 definitely British. Now let me ask a question. Does Veterans Day include Britain? Is it a global day? No, UK does not have Veteran Day. They have Remembrance Day. And I believe that Remembrance Day was like Friday of last week, like the difference of a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But she posted Veterans Day using British pictures, which is just weird. I guess. I wasn't looking too much into that. And you know, I'm hypercritical, but I'm going to let... You're busy. I'm going to let that part go. Okay. They're just...
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, they just... It's a calamity over there. How am I doing with the stories, by the way? Like, they're so random. I'm like, some of them... Some of them I'm surprised that, like, that's what you want to talk to me about. Like what? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But I feel like you also switched it up to make salt like the first story. I did. And it wasn't like first story energy. In another world, Megan would have been first story. And then Secret. And then Brooks. And now this.
Starting point is 00:31:49 But you know what else we're doing? We're doing one more Patreon while we're here where we catch up on pop culture from the last few weeks because there are a couple stories that I'm like chomping at the bit. Okay. To talk about. And so that's where we'll do like a total catch up and I can give you like my thoughts. On Miles Taylor going on New Heights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I'm going to go through all the stories that you did and let you know which ones I'm so glad I missed. Right. And which ones like you need to discuss. And which ones I'm like bursting with takes. Love that. Yeah. Well, our fourth story. Because I'm just co-hosting today. Like, this isn't even like, this isn't like a major catch-up. It's fast five. Oh, you know, this is regular, regular. It's a weekday. Oh, it's also queenie and ween. Don't forget. I already did. I know you did. I know you did.
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Starting point is 00:36:32 The video like took the internet by storm because, I mean, there were so many things about it. This guy's like a known prankster who goes up and touches celebrities. He's done it to Katie Perry. He's done it to the weekend. The weekend. He gets on stage at concerts a lot. And this time he penetrated this big global premiere. He ran towards Ariana.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Cynthia, like, came. You have to watch a video. Like, I've seen it from 100 angles. I can't see enough angles of it because it's just so crazy. And of all the people for, you know, him to do this too. Ari is like not one to be messed with. She obviously, like, has a lot of trauma. And she's like so clearly shaken up.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And I think Cynthia feels like very protective of her. And it was just like a really crazy video. And he's like, he's going to get charged or whatever, but he'll continue to do this. I think it's like for a fine. I just hate people like this. Yeah. People whose job it is. Like not just celebrities, but like in general, like prankster.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Hates. Yeah. I feel like we had a time where there was a lot of it and it felt like we've had a bit of a reprieve. It's true. Now that it's coming back, I just, I don't know what we can do to deter people. from doing this like how can we punish them and i feel like now that it happened all the videos of him doing it to other people have like come to the service and i've seen them all now and it gives me quite literally no hope in people who are security guards like they always get like so easily
Starting point is 00:37:51 bested by this freak he has nothing going for him no nobody can catch him he's like not even like he's like a ninja like yeah he gets in everywhere i wonder if already can press charges so he is if he's found guilty he faces a fine of up to what will be $1,500 American dollars. Local media has reported that he intends to plead guilty. Oh, he's Australian, he's 26 years old. His name is Pajama Man. Oh.
Starting point is 00:38:18 He goes by Pajaman on Instagram. P-Y-J. I thought it was like a name. I was trying to pronounce it, right? No, his Instagram is Pajama Man on Instagram. He's shy of your spending on. Literally. He often posts on social media, getting close to celebrities, at events and premieres.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He has previously found his way on stage. of Katie Perry concert, weekend concert, the chain smoke and smakers and others. On his Instagram Thursday, he posted that he was free after being arrested. I think she should press charges if she can. There are a couple of videos that I've seen that, like, give me the willies. Remember that guy who picked up Gigi Hadid in Milan? He was like the old one.
Starting point is 00:38:55 It's not the same guy, I don't think, but he was the guy who was like, for years, the prankster. And then remember that girl who barged the Chanel fashion show? There were a couple, you're right. It did feel like there was like an error. where it was happening a lot and it was like trendy to do and it hasn't happened in a while but his was just like particularly scary I think because Ari was like so shaked by it and then like Cynthia's reaction was just hilarious yeah she's a queen honestly yeah oh is it out or Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't think it's out yeah because no one's like no one's seen it yet yeah bethany's never seen like I loved that shocking yeah because she's so like on yeah but like you don't have to be on everything and like know of everything just be knowledgeable of the things that you do know I'm like embarrassed to just do the fifth and final story because like you said my stories were weird and like this one's really weird it's really weird it's just like red and I'm like I don't want to switch it just tell me what it is and then I'll tell you if I if I can possibly care thines coming back that's something I would pick fifth and vinyl on a Friday that feels right oh okay yeah so thanks to Jack Dorsey Dorsey and you know what I'm not going to judge
Starting point is 00:40:06 I'm not judging story selection because I know how it feels. Right. I know how it feels and it hurts. So a monumental comeback is underway as Jack Dorsey, who is, was the co-founder of Twitter. He has personally provided funding for Divine and ambitious project dedicated to resurrecting the beloved short form video platform Vine. The new venture, which is led by former members of the original Vine team, is not just rebuilding the app, but it has secured the entire original Vine archive, which is like what people are excited about. In 2022, Elon Musk said that he was going to like reboot Vine from Twitter,
Starting point is 00:40:40 but it's like totally separate now. And I think what's people, like, why they're doing it is like it's going to be a video platform where you're not allowed to use any AI generated content. So it's going to be like free from AI. Okay. And I respect like people taking a stand against AI, but I just have to say like nothing has changed my life and for the better more than AI. I love AI.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Everything I see. Are you on like, have you seen the videos of like newborn baby AI? Running out of hospital. Sorry, joyful. Like, just joyful. I know it's bad. And I know we could, like, talk about the existential threat. Love.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But we're having fun. Not we're having fun. I'm moving and working more effective than I ever have. Like, every, I just love it. Yeah. I just love it. I don't need vying back. It's also, like, so weird to me that they shut it down.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like, it wasn't that much of a flop. Like, they kind of, like, closed it. Gave up. Yeah. When Instagram started doing video. Yeah, I don't I don't understand So now that like videos really spoken for In terms of TikTok and Instagram Reels
Starting point is 00:41:41 Yeah it's the perfect time to bring back by now that we've all sort of settled into our apps No but also Instagram did Reels and while I do find myself actually using Reels quite a bit now It still didn't really penetrate TikToks like No it didn't take away from like TikTok's rev share It's just meant like more videos more creators more different ways of using the platform. And I think it's been good.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. My other fifth and final story, which I just wanted to pull up really briefly, is that Andy Richter says that he's on GLP ones, which is just like a turdy-coded story. That is really funny. I heard that spoiler alert, he went home from Dancing with the Stars.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Oh, yeah. I've been slipping on watching Dancing with the Stars since I've been on leave. Well, you should just pick back up now because we had to kind of drop the dead weight, Danielle Fishel and Andy. Now it's... King L.L.F.?
Starting point is 00:42:28 Oh, yeah, last week. Okay, I'll watch. Now it's... Now it's like, she's so sweet. No, she's really cute. Oh, yeah, she left before Andy. Yes, that's what was really crazy last week. Okay, that's really funny.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And now it's like anyone could go. There's nobody who's like visibly bad. Like Elaine Hendrix is up there with the best of them. Yeah. So it's like Elaine and all the young things, the influencers right now. So it's Elaine and the five. Dylan, Robert Irwin, Alex Earl, Whitney, and Jordan Childs, who, yeah, is crushing. Yeah, maybe I'll jump back in.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Um, sad to see Andy go. How was his final dance? I didn't see it. It was pretty cute, actually. He wore like muscles. Well, that was like for the second dance he did with Caitlin Bristow. But right now they're getting stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Now everybody dances twice. That's really crazy. Yeah. And last week it was like dancing with other partners. But this week, it's like official you and your partner are two choreographed dances. And the theme is Prince this week. Prince the man. Prince the man.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Okay. That's a, that's not a theme. What's it from? Never been kissed We're famous couples That's not Yeah yeah yeah When famous couples
Starting point is 00:43:34 We're of history Of course That's not a theme I need to watch that movie again It's really been a long time Yeah you need to brush up Even though Prince is like a pretty good theme I'm just like looking through the rest of the stories
Starting point is 00:43:44 To make sure I don't miss anything You know Amy and TG are engaged They found a piece of Hitler's DNA DNA Not penis DNA and they found a genetic disorder So assuming he probably had a micropinus
Starting point is 00:43:55 And one ball Cracking also do you know that bethany was talking about teaky barber yes i figured well i didn't figure it out the commenters did after when she couldn't remember who she was talking about that's a housewives yeah and then she wound up being on housewives i wonder if she even knows that they wound up on housewives i know and we're gonna get her back i totally forgot like i honestly i barely remembered that that's like his story one more thing i just want to share i don't know if you saw i saw this on ticot and um i almost chose it as a story today remember jimmy from love is blind yeah he's going on
Starting point is 00:44:28 match. Do you know he's had the most insane glow up? No. And it's rumored he's going on a perfect match. That wasn't confirmed. So I saw, I don't follow him, but he came up on my TikTok. I guess he's been documenting his journey with hair plants. What are they called?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Hair plugs. Hair plugs, excuse me. He looks so hot. Okay. So let me show you the before. I just want him and Jess to be together. Ready? Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:46 The before. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Oh my God. If he is going on perfect match, Jess needs to go back on perfect match. And they need to follow up. Now he's eligible. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Like, that's just like, something that's like a loose end that's not been tied up for me he's been very open actually about the whole procedure guess how much it cost i don't know 11 000 dollars okay worth every penny you guys look so different oh i need to talk to him and jess yeah you do really every time you're still at the restaurant every time i watch love is blind it bothers me oh i didn't get to talk about love is blind reunion i was i was off oh i think i was on it with liz woods yeah go so parka megan she followed me by the way. She must have heard.
Starting point is 00:45:28 By the way, I'm so team Sparkle, Allie and Casey. Of course. The Holy Alliance. Losers. Losers. Oh my God. I wanted to kill those girls. They were being so lame, like, trying to have a moment.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And to me, like, Sparkle and Jordan are both really good people. People, it seems like normal people. And they get along, they went on bio files together. So, like, I don't have to take a side. So when I'm thinking about, like, who are the girls that are, like, the best of the season, like, it's really, like, sparkle. And whoever she's, like, friends with, that's, like, a very strong. strong endorsement.
Starting point is 00:45:57 So the fact that Casey, I didn't like how she acted on the show. Agreed. I thought her reunion was very humble. Yeah. I think she like, Patrick was just living for being a victim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I thought she like came in with like the right attitude of good, very conciliatory and apologetic and honest. And I'm ready to move on from it, you know? And people just like wanted to drag her. But her like sparkle stamp of approval means everything. It meant everything. Plus Allie too. I'm also team Allie.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Who's that? of course the nurse The nurse who was with What was his name? Anton Wow it's crazy how like literally these people Leave your brain The second the show ends
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah are you gonna be okay about Jordan I know you're gonna miss him I loved him like seriously And I was so team him and sparkle And hearing her talk And I just actually was talking Her Instagram she loves being a mom Like I'm so happy for her
Starting point is 00:46:46 But it should be Jordan's baby Like it should Because if you listen to her sake Like this guy's not the great love of her life Like they actually It's very Lindsay Hubbard Yes and it didn't really work out but they're trying to make it work to be a family and that's great but this isn't a great love of
Starting point is 00:46:59 her life so you know what she's got to get back together with jordan sorry she may not want to hear it in time right now it's good for the family to be together you're jess and jimmy i'm sparkling jordan okay okay we'll keep an eye i'll keep you updated on both we need to keep them on our list of like a quarterly check-in yes yeah i don't have my notebook down here well jacks i know you're due for something whether it's a feeding or whatever so i'll let you go we really appreciate you being here. Guys, head over to Patreon. Jackie has her vlog up
Starting point is 00:47:29 of her last couple of weeks of pregnancy and then her full birth story and at some point this weekend, one more episode will be uploaded. If you're dying to hear Jackie's thoughts on all the pop culture she's missed in the last two weeks, she's going to be giving us like a deep dive
Starting point is 00:47:39 on all of that, TV news, et cetera. So thank you, Jackie. Be sure to follow my co-host today on Instagram at Jackie Ashtray and we will see you on Monday. I hope you guys have a great weekend. Thank you so much listening to the Justin the Lennonay Morning Show
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