The Toast - Another Year in the Garbage Can: Friday, February 13th, 2026

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Friday. Hope everybody's having a great day kicking off, acknowledging the space, etc. Hello, Jacqueline Follet. How are you today?

I'm great today. It's Friday. She's getting emotional. I'm getting emotional. It is an emotional day. It's my baby's birthday. I know. It's my babe's birthday.

So that's Emo. And then Dana texted me this morning. It's also Colgate Day. So every Friday the 13th is what we call Colgate Day in the Colgate community. And this is the first time, Harry was born on the 13th, but this is the first time his birthday has fallen on a Colgate day. So it's really just a meshing of all beautiful things. And they say white people have no culture. Colgate day?

That's so like, Colgate is like. Temirut. No, no. Jealous. It's so jealous that I went to a college with lore. Okay. Okay. Moving on.

Happy Colgate Day to all who celebrate Dana Holsberg specifically. Oh, sorry, Webman. I cannot. There are some people, like, it's funny how, like, you're married people, like, who they, like, whose names change forever. And I'm sorry, she's Dana Holsberg forever. Oh, she's done a really good job of morphing. She will be Dana Holtsburgh because, like, that's how we know her. But she peeps in with the Webman for me.

Like, she, as much as she could change in my mind, she has. Yeah. It's just like, it's never going to happen for me. I'm such, like, a stubborn person for, like, all. my married friends. Like, like Dana went extreme. Like, the second she got married, she changed her Gmail. Like she changed everything. Yeah, like everything. And then some people slowly transition. I just can't. The slow transition doesn't work. No. Like, changing your Instagram handle is a really, it's an expedited way. Like, I will start. But like even, no, I just, sorry, she's Lauren Bushnell.

You know? No. She's Lauren Bushnell. She's so Lauren Lane. I'm so, maybe it's like a feminist in me. Oh, you want to keep women as their independent selves. I want to keep women down. Yeah. Or up. Oh my god, I called you last night. Did you? Just remind me after the show. Like, actually, I called you from Ben's phone. So I, um... Yeah, so you didn't pick up.

Let me see. Oh, my, no. I would never miss a call from Lish. Oh, a FaceTime from his, from his eye cloud. Oh, Ben's having eye cloud issues. So maybe my phone screened that. Yes, Ben is very, um, boomer in the sense that like every time his phone rings, his computer starts ringing, even if the computer's closed.

And now every time he facetimes me, it's the eye cloud. Got it. I think my phone must have screened. I'm not going to. blast his email but at iCloud.com. Yeah, no, it's actually been like an issue for the whole family. I wonder what you had to say to me. Just remind me after.

It's nothing of great import. You guys don't need to be like jealous about what I'm telling Jackie. It's just like minor like administrative tasks like things for the family. Okay, great. Yeah. We's such a busy show today. First of all, did you watch Try As well. Of course I did.

And Real Hot Spives of Beverly Hills. Of course I did. And then we also have Queenie and Weenie and I feel, I just feel excited about the potential for today's episode. Do you know? Yeah, there's a lot to discuss. And like we have five stories. The stories are storying. Oh, and yeah.

What? Yeah. The stories. Yeah. Mikaela Nagerro. Things we like didn't predict, but it's just crazy how on the pulse we are. Yeah. Unless like the two things are related because I guess.

But of course they are. So we were just sort of putting a magnifying glass to that. I don't feel like predict. I feel like we magnify the situation. We are just like radioactive. Like everything near us, like everything in our orbit like is on fire. In good and bad ways. It doesn't sound good.

Like, McKinley Negara doesn't get spoken about on, like, podcasts a lot. But when she does, like, she gets divorced. I just think it's always, but also is it like she was spoken about once and she got divorced or like she's always

doing something? She's always in the zeitgeist. She's crazy. Everyone's obsessed with her. Just you. Oh, my God. Joey Kamasner. No, everyone is.

Remember the mascara? Oh, yeah, of course. You know, they're still talking about it. They're obsessed with her. Because she just got a campaign with Loreale for a mascara and like, now they're making a joke about it. Like, because on TikTok, it's referred to lovingly as Miscaragate.

And she became like a global face of L'Oreal for their new mascara launch. And they were talking about, you know, mascaraate. So yeah, she's made coin off of the Mascara fiasco. Good. Yeah. Joey Kamasda texted me last night that he was on the floor. He said his pillow was wet from the tears he was crying at that clip that we posted about you seeing the let me add for the first time.

He's obsessed with like when you're uncomfortable, like in sexual innuendos. because when you guys did the episode during my maternity leave, it was like a lot of that because Joey's very like R-rated and you're not. He was crying. It was so funny.

It was really funny. It was very unexpected. How were you celebrating? The big day. Big day? Well, it's a big weekend. It's a holiday weekend, which is so fun.

So it's just like bus club, another bus club. And I think we're going to do a little beach day today perhaps. Let's see if weather permits. I'm wearing shorts. Yeah, I packed a t-shirt. I have a beach bag in my car.

Oh, okay, T-shirt. Back to the beach. You're so crazy. I know this is, it looks like a T-shirt, but it's actually a leotard. And if I'm going to be, like, breastfeeding by the beach,

I need a t-shirt, not a leotard. That's really crazy that you're wearing a leotard. Well, it's, these are like my nudes body suits. I have them in every color. I wore them a lot before. I got pregnant. I wore them every day. They're just like, they're better than T-shirts.

I know. There's just something crazy about being a postpartum woman wearing a leotard. It's a t-shirt body suit. So, like, I don't want anyone to think. But it clips at the machine. It clips. And, like, if your breasts. It's not a thong, is it?

No, it's, well, I'm wearing undies. Okay. But, like, sometimes the body suits are, like, thong. It's not thong, and it's not not thong. Oh. Like, it's not, I'll show you later. Oh, how exciting. The beach.

Okay, that's just crazy. I have not worn. I changed into my t-shirt. haven't worn like a leotard body suit long before I got pregnant like it to me that's just a part of my former life it was just the the shirt for the job today okay I I don't know how to describe it and I feel good about it's not bothering me it's not no I imagine though um and I don't want to you know get too personal but I imagine like wearing underwear and then like a thong like body suit is kind of weird not if it's like not these are why the nudes ones are great have you seen them I don't wear

If I showed it to you, you would understand. It's a T-shirt. It looks like a T-shirt. And then at the bottom, it just, like, has a stretchy undercarriage. It's not like what you remember from American apparel of, like, a body suit. You just unlock. I know. I know that's what you're thinking is happening.

Actually, that's not what I was doing. They've made great strides. Let's talk about American apparel, can we? They've made great strides in the bodysuit world. Did they make a documentary? I think they did. I didn't watch it. Okay, because they should make a documentary.

Because I can't give any more of my life to American Apparel than I already did. They should make a documentary, obviously, about American Apparel, but just about that one store on Third Avenue and, like, 66th Street, the way it shaped a generation of New Yorkers. It shaped the culture. That store in particular was insane. Like, the draw, it was literally like Soho House. Like, it was such a place to see and be seen.

When it went out of business, like, it was devastating for the community. And, like, what were we even buying their hoodies and, like, V-neck T-shirts? Yes. The V-Nex. Yeah. It was, like, the modern. And now they're a soul. many brands that like do what they did it's not as revolutionary concentrated into one brand it's

like everyone's wearing one brandy melville yeah uh made well j crew all the staples you know you can go anywhere for your staples skims back in the day there was one and it was american power you need a t-shirt american power i need a sweatshirt american apparel you need leggings american apparel and if it's not american apparel everyone's going to know it was such a status symbol even though it wasn't like the most expensive, like, but it was like high, like, it was elevated staples. Elevated staples, fugly staples. Like purple zip-ups. Fugly staples.

And when I look back on pictures from high school, like, it's, like, I was wearing it every day. And it's like, today I'm going to wear my nice purple zip-ups. And like my black be neck. I'm getting dressed up today. I'll wear my yellow purple zip. And the thing. Oh, oh. What's your timer for?

I don't even, I don't even know you can set a timer. Sure. No, for real. You don't have to take like a vitamin or something. No. I don't take vitamins. That's why I have like these white lines on my fingernails. You don't have to do an injection.

No, I took my zap out last night. I don't take board of control. Like, what else do people set timers for? To wake up. I'm not hard boiling eggs. Like I don't know what the hell my phone was going off for. Okay. Well, she's awake.

Her eggs are boiled. Yeah. What were we talking about? Oh. And a sister is like, we had a, like, you know, you had a bit of a, a uniform. We didn't wear uniforms to school, but you know you always wore like a white t-shirt or whatever. And you had white t-shirts that were American apparel and white t-shirts that were not American apparel. And like you would always have to keep them in the rotation like of when you laundered

them. And then if like a sister took like the good American apparel t-shirt, it was such a fight. Like what drugs were they putting in those t-shirts? I don't know. It was crack for kids. It was. What is crack for kids today? Roblox. Like the phone. Kee pop demon hunters. Yeah. Lubu-boo. I feel like that came and went. Like, I think Labubu's over. I don't know, though. If you're young, let me know.

I think they're cute. What's the, I don't know the point. Is it the point to wear it on a handbag? Well, on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, when I saw Doreet wearing one on a handbag, it felt like a throwback because they filmed this obviously like a year ago. And I don't think Labubus are babubing. Really?

I feel like they've sort of settled into like whatever they're going to be. No, I think they've actually faded. Like as, I believe they were like a marker of the time and the time has moved. Did you ever get one? No, did. I got one in PR. I got one in PR. are from the bar. Me too. And it brought great joy to my household. There was someone in my life who

loved Laboooo, so I gave it to them. Wow. Yeah, I'm generous of spirit. That's really sweet. So I'm glad to I have had one. Yeah. I get it. I got it. You know, like they are stinking cute. Yeah. Are we going to make it a story of the Frida baby thing? Yes. Okay. Because I really actually I want to talk about that. I'm feeling sick inside. I kind of am too. I'm feeling sick. All right. So I feel like the stories are actually needed today. There's a lot of stories plus two TV recap. So plus cleaning and we need. Oh my God. Let's go.

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I'm getting a divorce. Can you play the video? for me. Happily. I literally haven't saved. I want to hear it from Michaela's mouth. From Michaela's Elle. Like, God forbid, I follow her. It's a long video. She posted it on both platforms. This video by saying, I appreciate you. Can I see her? And I love you.

I love her. And you're going to want to sit down for this video. I'm sad. I love her. I am getting a divorce. Take a minute. Take it in. I am getting a divorce. Cody and I love each other so much. and stay together.

We love each other so much. We would do literally anything for each other. That sounds like a great marriage. That sounds like a great marriage. Well, I'm not going to be sharing any details whatsoever as to why Cody and I have made this decision. I love her for that. The main reason I am doing that is because I want to protect Cody. Cody deserves that.

We both want to heal. Cody deserves to be happy. Cody deserves to be happy. So do I. This is an extremely shitty thing. No one gets married to get a divorce. Absolutely no one. But what I can tell you is that this is very amicable. We talk every day. He comes over for dinner. He sees the dogs. We and I were together for five years, married for two. And they are some of the best memories of my life. Memories that I will share. No. Okay. So they're perfect best friends and they love each other and expect each other and they love to talk and have dinner. You should get married. Yes. So lots to discuss in case you are just listening as a podcast. You know, full beat, you know, Michaela J. Glenn. Well, nothing less. Full beat, natural sunlight, her face pressed up against a window. Okay. It was so dramatic. Like, you know, turtleneck sweater. Like, I lived for the staging. Okay. I knew what she was going to say before she even said it. There has been so much speculation about Cody. If you've been following this, for like literally two years. He's been missing a lot. And then like a year ago, she shared that he relapsed with his addiction. So everybody just sort of backed off and like didn't look so much into where is he? He's not in the videos because obviously he's going through active recovery. And everybody just sort of like backed off. There have been so, and then she like at the end of last

year, which she said that they decided to get divorced at the end of last year. She posted content for like a month that she was in bed and consolable grieving, grieving, grieving, grieving. She can't tell us why. Like a lot of like really annoying like click baity type of stuff. But now we know that all of those things Was the divorce. Okay. Now I just find this annoying because while I actually like her message being like, I'm not telling you bitches what happened.

Like people are so awful to her. Like really, really awful. People share too much in general. A thousand percent. And he's a private person. This is like not at all what he wanted for his life. So I respect the message. But her delivery is so almost like she's baiting people.

Like the video goes on for like two more minutes. I'm not telling you why. Don't even try and guess. It's not about his recovery. Like, so what is it? Like I wouldn't even cared if it were. like creating more mystery. Obviously.

That's because she's great at her job. She's amazing at her job. Now, do we want to guess? Like, what? Listen, I didn't even know that her husband's name was Cody. I think I remember that she got married because there was some drama. That like she kicked out. She disinvited like her actual family members and friends so she could invite influencers,

which was like a lie. Was there a drama with her wedding dress? No. I feel like there was a drama surrounding something in her wedding. And it's not what you just said because that doesn't sound. familiar. No, but like the drama was like how many influencers were there and like a girl made a video being like, I'm her best friend from college and I got kicked out of the wedding. So like, you know, where me Bader could come. She's obsessed with Michaela. The girl. Yeah. No, the internet is

obsessed with Michaela and there have been so many scandals, drama. And a lot of them are rooted, rooted in complete lies. Like the wedding thing was a lie. She deals with so much this girl. Like I actually feel bad for her. She's just so polarizing for people. And when all she does is make makeup. Now, it's not something to note about the video, and I'm surprised you didn't mention it, is her accent is completely gone. It is? Yeah. Listen. Yeah.

No, listen. Let's hear it again. And I do not regret a single thing, nor is Cody. Nor is Cody. She's going to be so much speculation. But in the past, there would have been so much speculation. I sound like Julianne Moore in 30 Rock, when she plays out of Irish Boston girlfriend of Alex Baldwin.

good. Then it's good. No. Nancy. So you crushed it. And then actually like two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago Michaela made another video. She's always like making these grant sweeping statements and then like going back to normal. But basically being like her entire internet

career has been a lie. She hates that like, you know, I do feel like I actually thought she was being really honest in this video. Being like, she got so famous, so wealthy overnight. And she's like, it changed me completely. I became obsessed with like influencer lifestyle, money. She said everything. that you've seen on my page in the last couple of years has been a complete lie.

I think she was referring to the accent because she's like very slowly dropped it. And it's funny because the accent was a thing on the internet for like a year. People did not, they were finding videos of her from college, talking normal. And then no one's talking about the fact that her accent is completely gone. Kim Kardashian. Well, I think that's like everyone has a role to play. Go to pot too. Everyone has a role to play on the internet.

Have you been seeing the Becca Bloom stuff? I've been seeing the Becca Bloom stuff. Yes. They say she's poor. That she's not nearly as wealthy as she's been like acting on the internet. Okay, she's playing a role. She's telling us a story. Klor, Nega.

Nega is playing a role on the internet. Like you play up whoever you are. Everybody is, you know, a little extra. Yeah. Except for us. We're so authentic. We're ourselves. And that's why we're failures.

That's why we will never be like big stars because all we do is tell the truth. I completely agree. Like if we amped it up, if we turned it up, if we like made ourselves fit into a box and then blew up the box, like we would crush it. No, like we just started like telling lies. Like we're just so honest. Like I come over and tell you guys like what color my poop was. Like nobody wants to see that.

And that's why we're failure. It's like this is a tiny show and we'll never take off. It's true. It's actually a hundred percent true. I know. Anyways. Like our greatest strength. It's our Achilles heel is our weakness.

Is our honesty and authenticity. Yeah. It's the year of authenticity. Unfortunately for us. Another year in the garbage can. Maybe next year will be like the year of putting it on. Like the thing is I don't put it on because I'm literally so lazy. Like do you know creative and like how much thought and time you have to like put into like making videos that aren't just like your like stream of conscious?

Yes. But and for also like talking technically like you can put it on for three minutes in a video on Instagram. And it's exactly. We're like sad here six hours a week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, Michaela. We didn't even talk about the lemmy ad and how this place is. to it. Like, well, of course. So I don't really want to theorize because she literally asked us not to. Oh, but right. Sorry. A lot of what she was saying. No, but also, no, I don't even want to theorize. Oh, maybe they divorced because he never like. Well, no, but she said, but they're divorcing because blank and that's why he never blanked. That's what the internet's saying, by the way.

For me, more so it's like, because they are divorced, she could make that ad. Well, I'm relieved to hear that they are divorced because she made that ad and if that's your man and you went back home like hey honey how's your day at work good just told everyone you never ate me out like insane yeah so i'm actually thrilled that they're divorcing for that reason alone yeah because they don't have to live with the aftermath of the ad you they don't have to have dinner together like knowing that exists yeah well they still do have dinner together she said according yeah for the dogs the dougs i mean i don't know what's next for one, McAleen Agarra. Like, she's kind of in a transitional period. Like I said, she made this, like, huge video at the end of the year being like, everything has been a lie. I just want to go back

to, like, the normal girl that I am and stop lying to everyone. And like, I got so caught up with, like, the money and the fame. And I'm just like going back to being the girl that I am. So that means no man and no accent. Like, I'm down. I just like, I don't know why it's so hard to keep up, like, the lie. Like, I think it was like taking a toll on her mental health. Really? Yeah, her last, like, she was hysterically crying in that video. Like, to get on, like, to put on a little show. So like a couple videos a week, whatever, like being this like extra person, like, rake it in and then go and enjoy your private life.

Like, why is that like so? So it's like, it's like five videos a day. Okay. It's mostly makeup. So like she doesn't have to get personal with it. I think that maybe is like what she's going to do now. She's like closing this chapter on her personal life being. And like I follow her like literally for makeup.

I'm always buying shit that. Like I literally do not give a fuck how many dogs she has or how many boyfriends she has. Like for me and I think a lot of people like we come to her. We come to this place for makeup. Like, um, so just do that. You don't have to share with us. Like if I had a... No, but people demand it.

Like, your sound of mind, but like people insist. I know. She's so young. She's so young. Yeah. And it's like, you feel... So I understand why that's hard on your mental health. But like, faking an accent, like, just do it.

You know, it's like, it's theater. It is theater. But if it's more than that, if she, like, really feels like she's giving a piece of herself to the world and then everybody, like, beats her up. Right. That hurts. Yeah. Charlotte Tilbury.

I love her. Charlotte. If she has no fan. Claudia stop showing me her TikTok. Literally. No, she is a character. And you can't put Michaela in a box. You can't.

No, you can't. But looking forward to see if she dates next list of eligible. Literally add her to the list. I would love to. I mean, she's also like Boston Strong. Well, no, that's what they said with the marathon. Like she's Boston. Proud.

Thank you. So maybe she could date Mark Wahlberg. Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. The two of them together with their voices match me. If they make another TED, she has to. to be in it. You don't make a TED TV show.

It's on Peacock. Thank God I still have my Peacock subscription for the Olympics. Well, she should be in it. I saw a commercial for it. Like, it's, our boys are back in town. She should voice like Ted's wife. Girlfriend.

Yeah. Yeah. Free idea. It's a great idea. Are you ready for our next story? Some really adorable news from, like, some positive news from Lively v. Valdoni because the two of them have started court proceedings.

And Blake Lively had her chauffeur, fetch her pricey Majong set and bring it to her in court on Wednesday. You guys, one step closer to Taylor playing Mahjong. Not only that, any hopes that like I would have backed off on being team lively are now in the garbage. Yeah. So page six years that she showed up for court around 8.30 a.m. on Wednesday for a day of mediation in her suit against former co-star Justin Baldoni and the proceeding got underway at 10 a.m. By 11 a.m., apparently Blake had grown weary of the wheels of justice turning slowly and called for her diversions. We're told that her driver showed up at the door of the courthouse.

with a mahjong set. She's previously talked about her mahjong habit. I didn't even know this. Me neither. I have been paying attention in December when she told Vogue, quote, I've been teaching friends how to play mahjong, though I need to say I'm not a certified teacher, but I know enough to teach my friends how to play with me,

and in the end I always end up gifting them my own set because they are obsessed and want to practice. Apparently, she favors sets from, oh, my mahjong, which runs as high as $500. A basic set costs about $25 and an ultra-lux one, like by Bruno Cuccinelli, is 15. thousand dollars. Oh, somebody better get that for me. Yeah, kids just came out with a mahjong set. A friend of ours was telling us that like for a birthday gift, um, her husband got her the

Hermes Mahjong set. And it's like literally impossible to play with. It's all like, it's beautiful, like wooden. It has no numbers on it. It's all like authentically in Chinese. Unless you speak Chinese, you can't use it. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I love a mahjong set. Okay. And she just bust the case wide open. Who does she play with in court though? Well, so I imagine like you bring a support system with you. Like, we just saw her getting out of the car. That's true. A lot of people noted that Ron. wasn't there. I think it's better that he wasn't. I do think he's a distraction. And right now, they're both so unlikable. Like, them together in the same room is just like bad for PR. And I think a lot of people are like, she's not thinking it. Seriously. Like, this is serious.

I imagine there's a lot of downtime during these proceedings. I always have what people saying about the mahjong. I imagine. Like, oh, you're having your show forfeiture mahjong? This is a serious court about sexual harassment. And it's like, yeah, but this is also just like a real life thing she has to go through. And so, yeah, Mahjong is an amazing way to pass the time. Yeah. Like, they should have mahjong rooms in every airport. Honestly, sounds fun. Yeah. No wonder why she's like not an arrest to end this thing.

I just want to say like when all is said and done and this court case is over, whoever wins, right? Um, I do think like Blake lively should compensate me for my like steadfast belief in her with a gifted Mahjong set. Like if it doesn't show up in my PO box, like I'm going to be upset. Yeah. Because I'm taking a lot for her. Well, and she can make it really nice like the flowers from the press tour.

I don't think she ever wants to remember those flowers. Like I think she's probably. triggered by flowers now. Like she was trying to be thoughtful with her costumes and she got called like a woman hating. I think the bams would maybe be like locks of hair because of her Blake lively. Oh, Blake Brown. Well, let's talk about the looks. So we got pop-brazzi pictures of both her and Justin entering the courthouse, obviously totally separately. But this is a very high profile case. And unfortunately, like what she wears is going to be talked about. I was obsessed with her outfit. I do. She look great. She looks stylish, but not, not flashy. No. And that has been like a big point of

discussion. If she dressed any differently than how she normally dresses, it would look like she's faking and, like, trying to put on a show. So I think she really nailed it. And her hair looked insane. Yeah. Let me see you turn around. This is like the green suit. Yeah. It's very cool. Yeah, it is. And then he was matching her. Now I know, like, I'm very being like stereotypical. Like, you know, we're not supposed to care. Yeah. But like for me, these things matter. And so so far, like, between the outfits, the mahjong, like, I'm, she's winning in my book. Yeah. I'm sad. Just did like the first week. Just for like the superficial thing. Also, apparently they went to mediation, like, to try and see if they could settle it, you know.

They really should. They really should. That's what I've been saying the whole time, and they couldn't. Do you think that Justin wants media, wants to settle? Because this actually has been good for him. The more things come out, like nobody is turning on Blake. I actually, I could say he is getting, he's improving as the case. This is good for him.

He doesn't want to settle. She, I think, has so much to prove that if she settles now, she settles. She only has what to gain. Yeah. So I actually think neither of them want to settle. Yeah. Like Justin should just take the W and go. But she would have to agree to that.

Yeah, I know. But you're saying she's the one who's not, even though wouldn't she want this nightmare to end? I think they're both not. Okay. But they both need to be R. And so this is in New York? Yes.

At the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Courthouse. Oh, I've been there many times. It's beautiful. Have you? I guess I have because I've done jury duty. Are there not multiple courthouses? Yeah, I've been to six. Center Street. That's like the one that's where you get your marriage license. Like I'm like Pearl Street.

Pearl. Yes. Chinatown. Pearl. Pearl. I had not been to that courthouse. So yeah, I actually quite enjoyed like this part of the court. Everything has been so dark and so like unfun. Yeah, that this was, I'm sorry, fun. The Mahjong. It was very interesting. It was. Do you think she taught Taylor how to play before the, the Braggis? No, because I'm telling you if Taylor played mahjong, we would know. Did you see the video of Donna Kelsey being TMZ outside the airport? No. It was such a funny and lovely conversation. The guy was like, like, you're a celebrity now.

Like, you go on reality. She was like, as yourself, not just as like someone's mom or whatever. She was like, no, I'm really not. And then she talked about traitors. And it's clear that, like, she was like, they didn't know how to film me. They, she kind of was like saying, not in a bad way. She was very smiley the whole time really lovely. She said it was just like something that she wanted to do.

But like, they didn't know what to do with her. That's what she said. What did they have to do with her? Like, why can she just? I think because she couldn't do the challenges. Yeah. And because they spoiler alert, like made her that dumb secret traitor. They put her in like a terrible spot.

So she was like, it was fun. But like I could have stayed longer if you have to watch a video. It was weird. And then they were asking her what she'll dance to with Travis at the wedding. And she was like, she was very open. She was like I danced with Jason at his wedding to like a song from the Mijis, Love Shack or something like that. So maybe something like that will see. Mark Anthony, do you think, Philadelphia?

Yeah. And then the interviewer, who was really lovely, by the way. It was like a very positive paparazzi experience. And Donna was with a friend who was like cracking up at everything Donna was saying. Then the final question was like, you know, did they make you sign an NDA for all the wedding stuff? And Donna was like, oh no, they know I can keep a good secret. Bye, thanks. Like, it was a great interaction.

As the secret trader. Correct. The secret trader can keep a secret. Not really. If I was Taylor and I saw Donna's time on traders, I would have had that my lawyer, like, putting the agreement together. They're not going to make her sign an NDA. No, no, no. I'm saying, like, what a silly question?

I don't know. Taylor's like very, very private. I'm sorry. No, I mean, that's a quick way to become like a daughter-in-law that. you hate. Nicola. Yeah, literally. Are you ready for our next story?

It's some exciting TV news. Dancing with the Stars sets a spin-off series to find their next pro. And Robert Irwin is eyed to host it. Oh. So Dancing with Stars is getting the Glee Projects in treatment. A competition show, Dancing with the Stars, the Next Pro. It will feature up-and-coming professional dancers who will live in a house together and compete in a grueling audition process.

The winner will land a coveted spot as a pro dancer on the next season of Dancing With the Stars. This is, like, very smart. Yeah, and they're saying that Robert Irwin will host it. Well, they love to promote from within. Like Alfonso was a contestant who's now the host of the show. They love to, like, create talent, which I think is so smart. They're literally like an incubator.

And there is this like, a lot of people watch Dancing with the Stars. And then a smaller, but, you know, still big amount of people are obsessed with the pros. Like the culture who dates who, the history, I personally don't give a fuck. But there are like, those are the people who like go to the tour. Yeah. So there's a real built-in audience for it. And yeah, the Glee Project. The Glee Project.

I think this is a great idea. It takes a lot to be a pro as we saw. I thought they did to yawn. What do you think it's going to be Hulu? It is going to be on ABC and Hulu, it says. I can't, yeah, I can't see this being like on cable. On ABC and Hulu. I know, I just can't say being on cable.

Why? Like, I don't know, to me, reality shows that are- To air over the summer, I think it's like, summer is a lull. They just air like weird shit. I just like, I think of like, to me, reality shows that air on cable with commercials are so old-school. Like, they're not the future. like The Bachelor.

Yeah. Also, Mark Ballis is being eyed to judge, along with his mother, Shirley Ballas, who is a dancer known as the Queen of Latin. Wait, that's so cute. I didn't know that. Yeah. A lot of, like, personalities to choose from. You know, if you should get to judge, even I don't know him. I just know that he's, like, nasty. Let me think. Like, someone who's nasty in dances.

In the world of Dancing of the Stars. It's not like that crazy. Like Maxim? Of course, yeah. It would be the sign. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they need that, by the way. That's a great call.

Bring Maxim. Oh yeah. And then they have also like, you know, pros who have sunsetted who are still really influential and big in the, like they have a ton of people to choose from when it comes to like all. So this is very smart. It's like making use of the talent. Although I did see like, because I follow a lot of the pros on TikTok, like that's where it goes down. And a lot of them were like hyping up this big announcement, big announcement.

I saw people were like a little disappointed at like this is the announcement. I think this is a great announcement. What were they hoping for like another tour? I don't know. Yeah. Like, yeah, but no, I think this is cool. No, I love this. Do they have a name for the show?

Is it called The Dance Project? It's called Dancing with the Stars, The Next Pro. Okay, I don't love it. It's like a little chewy, but it's fine. It is chewy. What about America's next top dancer? Yeah, love. Dancing with the next pro.

Dancing with the pros. Yeah. That sounds like a rality show about the pros. I would love that too. Yeah. No, this is a good idea. This is a good idea. I'm happy for Mark that he's going to get more work after traitors.

Because if that was like the worst thing he ever did I don't want to talk about traders yet because it's like a Except you see when he shut the door and for all after That's funny when I tell you I was watching with half an eye last night I know and I was shocked that I saw it I was like wow usually I miss stuff like that What was it? He came back from the challenge and he shut the front door

And sat shade. That's the most he's going to. I was like that's the mark we know and he talked about dancing at the round table About having a partner you can trust I'm like he's like in my sport I'm like what are you who are you? Yes but okay. Love that relevant work experience. No, I agree. And then he made a relevant

good point. And I was like, thank you, Mark. Try doing it more. For your contribution. Let's not talk about traitors yet because it is a gateway drug and I don't want to spoil anything. Okay. Okay. But I'm just thinking what other shows are like that like could you give the Glee project treatment to like finding the next housewife where you put like a bunch of women in a house. That would be kind of a good idea. That would be scary.

Yeah. I love this. I love it. Toasty lion. perhaps. Well, let's see how it goes. Yeah, but for ideas. Yeah, it's a great idea.

Are you ready for our next story? Whatever. Our fourth story. Yeah. We spoke about this at the top of the show, but popular baby care brand, Frida Baby is facing backlash over inappropriate marketing campaigns.

Okay. So some posts are going viral in the last few days about Frida Baby, some screenshots of their products. Just sorry to cut you off. Anybody who doesn't know what Frida Baby is, it is a company, it's like a cool millennial company that... It is the premier brand for baby products. and for postpartum products for women.

They make everything. If you had a baby and you need something from a nail clipper to a bath to a thermometer, big things, little things, they make one of everything and their shit is really good. Yeah, I don't want to like make this an endorsement for them, but I think what's so shocking about this is not just like a baby brand. Whatever they make something, it is the best in category. That fucking nail clipper, you guys, like it's insane. The baby, the three and one baby bath.

Love that. The nose sucker. The undies, like the postpartum diapers. Oh, the postpartum kit, the, the, um, the squeegee bottle. Perineal. Paranile bottle. Everything. So this is like an industry that's kind of archaic.

Like, you know, the baby nail clipper has been the same since. And they make one that's a little bit different and 55 times better. Like what they've done for mothers can't be understating. No, I just think it's before we drag them. Everything that they make is better. No, that's why it's destabilizing for the mama community. It's not like, oh, I'm just going to boycott this random baby brand. It's like these are the best products.

You can't boycott it. Like, if you need to live. Yeah. But let's tell everyone what happened. So a couple posts and product packaging are resurfacing. No. So what happened was they. They posted something on Instagram about a rectal thermometer.

Yes. And that's what set the whole thing off. Now people are going back at all their packaging. But this Instagram caption really rubbed people the wrong way for good reason. Obviously, it's a rectal thermometer. When you take a baby's temperature, you don't put it in their mouth, you don't put it in their ear. You put the temperature in their tushy for like the most accurate reading. They make a great one.

I have it. And the caption that they posted to promote this product was suspicious. It says, this is the closest your husband's going to get to a threesome. meet the new three and one true temp thermometer, the Swiss Army knife of temperature, taking accuracy. Then here are a few more reasons to love it. We've got options, rectal underarm or oral, light for the end of the tunnel,

parent proof stopper so you don't stick it in too far. Then along with that, people started finding other posts that had like, you know, questionable. Not even questionable. We can just say straight up inappropriate marketing. And then also their product packaging. It's always been like quippy and...

Yeah, like supposed to be different, right? Like I said, they're like a new age millennia. This is like an archaic industry and they were such a disruptor because they made, you know, all the best baby products in pargy packaging and funny captions. And they like definitely took it too far. Yeah. And so like here, this is, I don't know what this is. Like a pacifier or something.

It says, I'm a power sucker. There's another one of a farhead touchless thermometer. It says, how about a quickie? And then another one for a, what is it? Oh, this is like a. humidifier or something. It says I get turned on easily. Oh my God. No, it's all disgusting and there's more and more and more. I can't believe we'd never notice something like this. I know. I guess I'm not like reading. Looking in hindsight, it's like, well, yeah, it's all weird. And it just took this one

Instagram caption to get people to talk about it. I think when it comes to like baby products, baby, some people are really like, it's funny or whatever. I don't think you can really ever take it too seriously like or be too extreme in how careful you are. And there's a difference between like being like a funny company. They're like, you know, saying funny things versus being anything even remotely sexual when it comes to kids. Like, sorry, no. Like I call me, I'm woke, you know, like I'm so cancely with this. Like, get out of here with that. Agreed. Some of the Instagram captions have been archived. They're from 2020 and 2021. They reportedly include terms such as threesome and lube. Then people identify current team members listed on the company's website. They all had like

quotes about like being parents. Okay. Those were also weird and now the team page was removed from the site. It's giving Belenciaga. The difference is that like this is a company, like, Belenziaga was weird, but it was like a company for adults. Like you're making things for kids. If you find yourself writing a piece of copy that even remotely could be interpreted

as like sexual, delete. Like what's wrong with people? I don't know. And this seems to be like their strategy. I need to now look at everything in my house. Because I think a lot of them are like do, you know, Hit the nail on the head. No, no, no.

And like they get it right, you know, about like whatever, gas or whatever they make like little jokes. About farts, yeah. I don't read the packaging that intently, like, or think about it. No, when I get coming from freedom, I'm obviously in a state of distress and I'm like tearing it open to take the temperature. Right. But seeing this all like spelled out like this, like it's disgusting.

And I also think that there's probably a difference between like the product team and the marketing team for a company like this. Like there's people who make great products for babies and then they hire these. Packaging experts. Yeah. And these experts are disgusting. Yeah. And they need a change of experts.

Yeah, no. And I'm as a mom, and I know that they make the best of everything, but like, and you literally bought me something free to yesterday. I did. And I bought myself something free to yesterday. Right before we saw this, because I wouldn't have bought it. The thing is. Until there's a change in the company.

I'm sorry, this is disgusting. It's disgusting, but I really don't feel like I should have to suffer. Like, do you know that until I found that nail clipper, I was making Ruby bleed every time? So I'm not going to make Ruby bleed just to take moral high ground. But having said that, Rita, now that you have your nail clipper. Oh. We're good. No, in case I misplace it.

Like, I will be replacing it. And you will misplace it. No, but I'm saying, Frida. Do better. For real. And they're also the ones that did the breast milk ice cream. And that was weird. It was weird.

At the time, I didn't think it was like... They did a collab with like Van Lewin or whatever making ice cream. I don't know if it was Van Lueen. They like paid a bunch of influencers. Yeah, I was mad because they paid a bunch of influencers. I mean, they didn't pay me when I was actively breastfeeding. It's like, well, support mothers. Like, I have the people that they use.

worked with weren't even mom. Like have nothing to do with this community. Like, let alone, I'm here bleeding out breastfeeding and you can't even pay me. That's why I was upset. But when you think about it, like, why are you, what are we eating breast milk? It's weird. Yeah. Obviously, everything in hindsight now, like, feels weird because it is weird.

At the time, I think, maybe even report about it. I can imagine thinking like, oh, yeah, they're celebrating breast milk. But now, like, putting it all together paints a different picture. It's very yucky. And there was like a boob on the container. Yeah, it's weird. I just think you can't be ever too sensitive around these things. No.

There's no such thing as being too cautious. You should have so many systems in place that nothing like this can ever happen. No, but this seems to be the point. This isn't like, oh, we fucked up. Yeah. We didn't see it that way. Sorry, like this seems to be the intent. Yeah.

My pitchfork is out. Like, I'm being. Yeah. I want heads to roll. Yeah, no, I need people fired. And like, I need names. Yeah. Which we never get.

Yeah. But I do need some change in leadership. One thing about like a community to piss off. Like you don't want to piss off the mama's. And not in this way. Like this is the worst thing you could do. Especially given the current climate. And I feel like people like to act like Blenciaga has bounced back.

But I know in my heart that it hasn't. Only within celebrities. And like maybe yes over time when all these celebrities are wearing it. Like I saw who, oh, you know what? I literally saw, who was it? If someone's kid wearing a Belenciaga bag, I'm like yucky, like a celebrity kid. I can't remember who it was. The celebrities are like back full force.

And I know there has been like a change in designer, but like I don't feel like ever like accountability was. No, there was no accountability. And the mamas don't forget. No, the mamas don't forget. And so like this is really bad. Yeah. I'm really icked out.

Oh, majorly. I'll be looking at my product differently. I know. And I'll be thinking. Yeah, the ones I already own. I'm not like. Yeah, because I won't suffer. I'm not giving them new money.

Like me and my family won't suffer. No. But when the cut time comes to give new money, like I am going to look for another brand on I'm going to read the packaging. Oh, for sure. And I'm going to be following this closely to hear any statement from free to self. Yeah. We're not going to let this go.

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Yeah, like, you lost. No, you didn't. And then there's also a Taylor Swift element here. She commented because. Yeah, she commented with some lyrics from the alchemy. Because that little proposal, he gave her like this little thing that said, Who are we to fight the alchemy? Which is all about like being in love while also being an athlete.

Who are we? Touchdown got the amateurs and won the winning team. So like it was very, it was very, you know. It was very. It was very. And so she commented like, which is just as exciting as getting engaged. Honestly, maybe more. Yeah.

Taylor's really loving the Olympics. She's just a girl. Yeah. And she still has her peacock subscription. from watching her mother and long traders she's loving the olympics what else she also made a video for the women for the olympic team like saying like go get them okay so why goats goats get them goats gonna go she just made like a testimony of honestly it looked like a cameo of her being like go team USA you guys have worked so hard you know so sweet yeah and now she's following this closely

love that she's literally just a girl and like she doesn't go to work every day right i'm sure she I'm sorry she works every day but she doesn't go to nine to five so I imagine she does have like big chunks in her day to fill with time while she's like off tour. So I imagine the Olympics is like, you know, the Venn diagram of Taylor and Travis. It's like the Olympics is in the middle of the yeah. Yes. Yes. In addition to Love is blind, which by the way is like coming back, we have to watch. Okay. I find Love is blind. It's, it's literally a factory now. Do you know what I mean? I could not name one person besides Sparkle Megan from the last season. Okay, but I just want you to know, Sparkle Megan has given me more like than anything is given in a while. I find Love is blind to be a factory. And like I'm so over it.

But sometimes I'll start the season with everyone. And, like, of course, it turns out to be a season that no one's watching. And, like, I'm recapping it and nobody cares. Then sometimes I'm like, you know what? I'm not doing it. And it's like the banger season. So I'm just going to see. I don't see really anyone talking about it.

Can I say something that's going to lead into our next subject, which is traitors? Mm-hmm. I feel that way about traitors. If we weren't watching it, like, we would be, everyone's talking about it. You have to watch traitors. It's amazing. And I'm watching it last night. And I really, and I'm not not enjoying myself.

but objectively, it's not very good. So I agree with you today, and I think that last night was the first time I felt that way. Now, spoilers will begin now. I'm excited to recap it, but I was also watching it with Zach, who's only watched a couple episodes with me. So I was sort of like sensitive to how he might be feeling about the show. And I'm like a little embarrassed because it's very stupid and not good. Well, I have only felt that way starting last night.

Up until last night, every episode I watched, I'm on the edge of my seat at me and been talking about how this is the best show ever made. Like Michelangelo could never. And last night, Ben and I were watching, like, Larry Half on our phones. It was such a bad episode, especially when they opened to the episode. And I was just saying yesterday how quite literally Durinda is the only person on the show. I'm, like, even remotely familiar with. And I guess I'm rooting for her.

No, and I said last week we were toggling between rooting for Derinda or Stephen. No, and literally the two remaining people on the show who I was remotely familiar with and, like, kind of liked Argon, we are left. And it's exactly what you said when we first started recapping the show is that it seems like anyone who stands out, who has a personality, who goes for things. is punished for that. That's exactly what happened. We are left with the six most unremarkable people, sorry.

And the herd and the people who aren't really thinking critically, who are no threat to the traders because they're so off the mark. And now people are like, well, Kristen figured it out. There's no one left. There's like six people left and apparently they don't even know how many traders technically there are. So like her looking at Eric, it's like, well, it only took you 11 round tables. You have to, there's six people left where we all have to look at each other

and you're actually not looking at the one mastermind, the one. It's really insane what Rob has done. Like I know people are insane. He's a villain, whatever. It is remarkable the game he has played. Alan Cummings was on Watch Ravens Live and somebody asked like, who's the best trader? He said Rob is the best player I've ever seen in the entire game.

I will, now that I am like moved on from the last two episodes with Renan and Candace and like I'm back to the game and just like watching the game and my feelings are no longer involved. Yes, I can agree that Rob is a great traitor. I think the game is flawed in the number. ways. One, it rewards the least interesting, most boring, worst game players because they stick around because they are bad. And there needs to be a way for traders to not turn on traders because then you can be, you can turn on your trader immediately. You get a trader.

And that's an easy way to win. It's an easy. He cracked the code. I don't think anybody's ever done that before. He definitely cracked some sort of code. There needs to be an incentive for the traders to win together. They should have to look out for one another. because yeah, it was like he just threw them under the bus. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Yeah. I don't even know what to recap, except was anyone else so confused by that challenge? Like, I was now following it at all.

Yeah. Some of the challenges are so confusing. Actually, a lot of them are. And when they explain the rules, I feel like you, when someone explains a game to you, you're just like, okay. Yeah, they're not really for me. But you got less physical challenges. Yes, yes.

My, that box was giving me pit. Like, I could never. Yeah, it's funny. Tara and Johnny's friendship was really put through the winger this episode. Not only that. When they like said their big reveal, like, first of all, you could hear a pin drop. Nobody cared. The fact that they kept the secret this entire time was so, like, lame. Maybe it would have been a good idea if things had panned out differently. But them sharing that to an audience of three people quite literally who were not shocked and didn't care. No one just said, oh, so you're liars. Okay. Yes. Rob was right. Like them saying it now, to what benefit? I'm not sure, except now that everyone knows that you're capable of keeping a big secret. it. Well, and they were able to save themselves for one more day. I do think one of them.

And Rob should save both of them because it looks like they both might be traitors. Like if, so if one of them gets out, it's like, well, Tara's fine because Johnny was not. Like, yeah. So they should work hard to keep them both. Who do you think that they killed at the end? Who did they have to choose between? They had Kristen. Oh, I think Natalie. I think they fight. Rob should have Kristen go. Because Kristen said, if I get sent home, it was Eric. Yeah. So he's just like his game plan has been working, which is throwing his three percent of the bus. But he did let Eric know. that. Oh, this was just the first time. Yeah, I know. So he's not going to let. Right. So he's not doing the Candace. This was the first time, though, that I feel like something kind of, nobody noticed it,

of course, but maybe they'll look back. The Rob thing with the double dagger. Natalie being like, you have to tell everyone. It was kind of a bad look for him. Like, I don't really understand why he kept it. And then being like forced to tell it from Natalie under distress. Like, it's giving liar. But also, why did Natalie need him to say? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe if they send home Natalie, they would look back at that. But they just think Natalie is a stronger player than she is and that she'll figure it out, which she won't. Yeah.

But I guess out of the people who are still there, she's the biggest threat because she's the smartest. I guess. So who's up for killing? Natalie, Kristen, Tara Johnny. Natalie, Kristen, Tara Johnny. You're not going to kill Tara Johnny. They shouldn't. And that would be dumb.

Right. And I don't care about the others. If he wants to throw Eric under the bus, sure get rid of Kristen. But I don't think, like, he already told Eric that. So they're not going to do it. I think they're going to kill Natalie. But there's so much suspicion on Natalie. That's the other thing.

Like it's a good distraction. But there's no suspicion on Kristen. No, but she said. Then it leads everyone to Eric. So that's a good another distraction. Kristen, like, let people keep splitting the vote over Natalie, Johnny, and Tara. No, Natalie has pretty much gotten out, like out from under the suspicion. Like she was in the hot seat for a little bit with the antidote.

But people seem to believe that she's not a traitor. I loved Stephen's speech being like, you blew it. Like, you blew it. Yeah. He literally totally told her. I'm a fucking face. It was such bad evidence, too. And how does nobody to this day know how to spell his name?

I understood, like, in the beginning, they were spelling Porsche's name wrong. But Candice, they spend everyone's name wrong. But why, when would they ever learn the spelling? I don't know. Is somebody going to tell them? No, I think that's like part of the game. It is funny. There should be an award, like an extra bonus money at the end if there was a contestant who spelled

everyone's name right. Yeah. I love Stephen. I think the show has been so good for him. I don't know what he's doing in his personal. right now, but I hope him and Kristen get back together. And the thing is, like, he, is that guy. Yeah.

He's been that guy since high school. He was such a, he's even better than that. The show was so good for him. He was the only one who stood up for Ron. He played like an honorable game. He never threw anybody under the bus. He was always letting the girls get the shields and the girls go up the hill first. Like, this was a great, I'm sure he doesn't have a hard time like catching tail.

But like, spread him. Yeah. He's such a cutie. And he's so, he's aging so beautifully. Yeah, he is. Handsome boy. No, they're all just like. looking at each other and they don't like feel, you know, they feel like, oh, I don't feel like

it's Johnny. I don't feel like it's Harry. I don't feel like it's Stephen or whatever. No one has said the name, Rob. Look at someone else. What we're doing is working. And why isn't anyone look at Mark? Or Mora. Oh, and Mora's like such a stereotype. Like she's so blinded by love. Like they're all like, nobody's thinking of Rob, except they're like a male privilege thing. Like he's playing it really well, but also like he's a tough guy. He's going to protect us. Mora's just like, okay, Rob. Like, she's in love with him. Yeah, but she's also, like, he's also the only person who she knows.

She knew going into it. So that's like Taranjani would be like if one of them were a traitor. And I wonder if one of them had been a traitor, what they would have done. That would have been interesting. Yeah. They probably would have, like, had a mental breakdown, like, trying to keep it from their best friend. Yeah. But why doesn't anyone look at Mark?

Like, why do they just assume Mark is a faithful? And can I ask people who watch your previous seasons? Is it always this, like, I feel like the climax is really in the beginning, like finding out who the trader. And with each episode, it gets less and less climactic. Is that just this season in particular? Or is that just a thing with the show? And also, unless you are the trader who wins, it's actually kind of embarrassing to win, to go all the way to the end.

You look so stupid. Even people who are smart. It's just a hard thing to figure out. No, it just means that like nobody found you threatening. Yeah. More interesting. Or interesting enough to eliminate earlier on. Yeah.

Because if we get the faithfuls winning and it's like Mark, sorry, I'm not going on. Mark, Kristen, Mora, and Natalie. Okay, but I'm thinking of last year because I remember when they were on Watchtrap inside. Like it was Derinda, Zach Efron, and Gabby Wendy. No, it wasn't. Derinda got out night one. Oh. Oh, sorry not Durinda.

Delores. Sorry. No, I don't think it was. Dolores, I think was a traitor. It was Gabby Wendy. Zach Ephron. Nephron, Dylan, Lord Mountbatten. Yeah, it was, you're right.

And a fourth. I remember when we found out that four people won in traders, we were like, what kind of fucking show was there? But thank God if we had to wait three more extra weeks. Yeah, I know. Okay. Let me see if it was Dolores. Maybe not.

I just remember her being on much. Ravens Live. Because she was on. Oh, no, she won. She won. Okay. Good for her. But they were all faithfuls.

The last main trader was Brittany Haynes. They were all faithfuls. all faithful victory. Okay, I won't spoil any further seasons just in case I decide to watch. Let's also talk about the Real Hotswis of Beverly Hills, which was also kind of a dud of an episode, but the dichotomy of both dinners

was cracking me up. Like, that turn dinner and Erica finding out, like, in real time that she wasn't invited to the Hamptons and they're, like, having this. Why did Rachel only invite Kyle and to read because they needed a night out and she's trying to, like, get them back together? I guess.

I wanted it to be a big group trip. No, even if it wasn't, I understand her inviting to read, but, like, I don't really, she doesn't like Kyle. Like, I don't know why she invited her. It looks like they're having the best time, like just Donna Karen. Like, it was so everything. And cutting to this, like, extremely weird dinner when they're all, like, manifesting in journals. And I didn't even know that other girl there.

Like, it was so weird. It was. I want to say about that dinner. Maybe I didn't watch as closely as I needed to. But I'm not really with Sutton. I kind of am feeling for Amanda in this one situation of, like, she didn't really bring up this. Like, Kyle drove that conversation with her about Doreet saying too much. much. Then she went to Kathy's house and recounted that conversation and said, he didn't recounted.

She regurgitated it as her own thought and that's why Sutton told her read. She never said, she didn't say that's what Kyle said. She said, don't you guys feel like this is bad for her marriage? And Sutton's like, who the fuck are you? I'm actually so team Sutton. Okay. I just feel like when Amanda said like, you're teaching me how to clean up this mess that you made. I'm like, yeah. Well, that's the show. Sorry. It is the show a little bit, but it just made me feel like, oh, this is a little stupid. Like, I'm going to tell someone what you said. I'm going to also tell you how to fix it.

And it's like, what if you just never told them what I said? Because I just like was sharing an innocent thought with you. In the real world, yes. But in housewise world, we need something a little more thick than that. Yeah, I can't stand Amanda. Like I just hate her. And I'm not saying that I love her or anything. But in that moment, I'm like, this is like pretty stupid what we're talking about.

Yeah. And that she's going to be taken to task and that she, nobody can move on unless she's like cops to it. Like cops to what's saying something that everybody else has said, And as a viewer, like I am feeling a little bit. It's a little, like, and I love to read so much, but I'm worried. Just like Kyle said, like, I'm worried that she's saying too much. This isn't good to say on national television when you're in the middle of like active tense negotiations.

I think they really want you to like suspend disbelief and just like imagine this is like a normal group of friends. And this random new girl who's like rubbing people a bad way saying it as like her own thought. Like, yeah, she can go back and forth with Kyle. Kyle has earned a right. to comment this random girl who she's actually at that point had met twice has no right to make any sort of commentary whether she thinks she's being helpful or not I just also can't fucking stand her no I know um also let's talk about the maricio dinner which was really weird like any hopes for them too having an affair is out the window I don't know it's just like frustrating when someone saying A and someone saying B

like which one is it yeah like was their term sent or not did you get a google spreadsheet the sort of friend that Maricio is to PK is the sort of friend that Kyle needs to be being towards Doreen Kyle and her confessionals is so nasty about, like I, she acts like a, she doesn't act great in front of Doreet, but her confessionals are so nasty, like so quippy for no reason. Yeah. Because it's like she's holding her tongue in front of Doreep because she's been told that that's what she should do, that she shouldn't express.

God forbid she be supportive. She can't be supportive. No, she can because in her heart she's not supportive. And I don't, I don't care what Mauricio says, what P.K. says, what Kyle says is true. Like, I just know what's going on in that it's Doreet. is holding everything together. And P.K. is out globe trotting. And then comes home and says,

at 3 a.m. I want to see the kids. And she's like, you can't see the kids. And then he says, she won't let me see my kids. And it's like, they're sleeping. No, I know that Kyle and Mauricio are like, claim they have proof that negates everything she says. But I believe Doreet.

No, I just know. She's home with the kids. She has the stories about her dad. Like, she's the one who says, I've noticed a change in Jagger. Like, I'm sorry. I just believe Doreet. No, she's the one like keeping them on their schedule on their routine.

And the fact that Kyle, who's also going through a divorce of her own. And just as like a woman who's been around other women who have gone through divorces, the fact that her first instinct isn't to defend her read, sometimes like maybe she, her first instinct would be to believe to read, and then she starts hearing things,

and maybe she starts adding, no, from the get-go last season, she just does not believe to read. Yeah, I've seen people speculate that, like, you know, this is sort of keeping her in Moe. Tight. Tight. And, like, her being on his side,

might help her five favor in his eyes. Also, I think even at the Hampton's thing, when they're like, we're all divorced, and she's like, I'm separated. She refuses. I think she's just still holding on and she doesn't want to be in this like basket of divorce, scorn women with Doreet. And so she's like, no, I'm over here. Everything's copacetic.

Doreet, you're wrong. No, so true. Loving, I have to say that every recap. Loving. Whose house was that in the Hamptons? Not hers. I thought it was hers. Just interesting.

Like even her packing. Like, everything about her is fascinating. No, just like watching her. She's like just her hair. It's so shiny. Her sister look exactly. like oh i didn't see her sister that was her sister yeah they're at the friend's house and then the sister was there waiting for them the blonde one god i must have missed his name's pamela or maybe that was

the friend i must have looked down yeah yeah yeah it was like a boring episode erika's commentary was cracking me up and i just i can't keep like going over this point about the Amanda and who said it and like just drop it and move on and let's find something new to argue agreed we'll find something quickly because it's just not that like it's not that it's not big enough to be multiple episodes The trailer that we got was for the remainder of the season. It's a little scary. Doreen and Erica fighting. Dree verse everyone.

And I feel like that's going to make Kyle feel like so vindicated. But like Kyle's so wrong. Well, Doree like is in a bad spot. Like she has so much going on that she can't help but make every conversation about herself. She can't help but relate everything back to herself. Because like that's what's going on. Like how can she be any other way?

I imagine it's exhausting as her friend at a certain point. But like that's what is she going to show up and pretend like she didn't just have the worst fucking day? The walking away with the cigarette in the corset. Oh, the Italy. trip looks good. They look a good trip. I feel like Rachel and Bose will continue to have Dorettes back. I did not like what appeared to be Doret and Erica fighting. Well, that's sort of been like an undercurrent is that Erica is a real moral compass. Like she's not super involved

anymore, but she gives it to everyone straight. And she like refuses to hold Kyle accountable in the least, but she's so excited to do it for everyone else. It's like annoying. If you're going to be like an impartial moral compass, you got to come for everyone. And she doesn't. Yeah. Let's do Queenie of the Weenie to wrap up the week. Okay, Queenie and Weenie is our final segment of the week where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. Don't take it personally. If you acted like a Queenie this week, and if you act like a weenie of the week, and if you act like Ween of the week, you might be a weenie this week. Sideweek deal, seven-day title. You could be Queenie one week and we need an ex. You know what do you want to do.

Queenie, we always start with a positive. Okay. My queenie is also Utah. I wrote J-U-N-T-A. Great is how you spell it? Judah. No, I wrote J-U-N-T-A. No, in case you're looking at mind thinking like I copied you. No, I know. Jenta means Utah. Yes, exactly. Um, Utah Leardom, one gold. She can finally, you know, celebrate that move. Get married. Get married. Have babies. Like, I'm so, so happy for all her hard work that we watched on Paul American feed off. Very full circle for us too. Very full circle for the viewers. Like, it was just amazing. Happy for the Dutch than the Anderthals. Yes, me as well. My weenie of the week is Olympics coded as well. And it brings me to a story I've been dying to tell you. Oh, okay. Why didn't you add it to our bonkers Olympic news

segments? Because I had already had it for my weenie. Oh, were you nervous every time I have brought up the Olympic? No, I know you have no idea what I'm about to say. Um, because my weenie of the week is a French woman named Jezebel de Waugh. Do you know her? No, but I'd love for that name. So I'm sure you know, um, chalk and Bates, the figure skating duo, man and woman, like, like, really the leading figure skaters for America. They're a married couple there. She is gorgeous. He is super cute. They're like kind of the it couple this year and it was just a matter of time before they won. And a couple of nights ago it was their final dance and they came in second to a clearly subpar couple from France. Now okay people you know it's sports very sad some people win some people

lose but there is like a bit of a scandal going on thanks to a woman named Jezebel Dubois. Now how it works in figure skating is there's a delegation from each country that gives a score for each competitor. So I think there was like eight countries competing, US, France, Italy, all of them. And each of the judges was from each country. Now, it should be, I now have a problem with the scoring

because from your country, you shouldn't be able to vote. Whatever. But Jezebel Dubois of France gave the Americans such a low score, eight points lower than

the French couple and much lower than all the other judges like for the most part all the other judges like a couple of points max four theirs was eight points lower

because she cheated like it's first of all it's just a flawed system I didn't even realize that's how people were voting like you shouldn't be able to give a score to your own delegation she gave them eight points higher

it's like everyone has a vested interest so people are going to be shady they came in second when they clear like the other the French team like was fucking up. Like, they were not the winner at all. Then there's also drama with the man.

He's like, has some, like, allegations. Like, just bad. Jezebel Dubois. Like, if the Olympics don't have integrity, nobody does. Like, it's supposed to be. I didn't realize they were so subjective.

Yeah. And I realized that they were to some degree subjective, like for the judging of, like, skating and gymnastics. Right. It's more, it is, it's like an art. It's not like a score to point. Yeah, right.

Um, but that they could be like so willy-nilly. Jezebel Dubois. Say her name. I would love to say that name, Jezebel Dubois. And of course her name is Jezabel. What a Dubois. Acting like true to her namesake. Like Alison Dubois.

Of course. Your figure skater will never emotionally fulfill you. Jezabel Dubois. Who's your weenie? My weenie. I'm remiss to name them weenie. I fear they might like it too much. Is Frida Baby.

Yeah. Frida baby is the weenie of the week. That's beautiful. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to The Toadown Morning Show. We deliver the fast five stories you need to know everybody Friday on YouTube. So for watching us on YouTube. please for free to subscribe and give us video thumbs up.

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