The Toast - As Ever, With Love, Orchard: Tuesday, February 18th, 2025

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

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Good morning millennials and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday, cause yesterday was a bank holiday that we of course observed in the most honorable and respectful of ways. Thank you to all the presidents, whoever, you know, served did their thing. And it's Tuesday.

It feels like a Monday. It's the beginning of a new week, a beginning of a party week where Jackie and I, well, first of all, hey, Jack, how are you? Hey, Turteloo. I'm good. Thank you. Yes, I am here.

Things, plans changed as they often do around these parts. We let the chips fall where they may and I am still in Florida. Now I was supposed to be back after the wedding today, back in studio, back to our beloved frames. Yeah. And of course I'm not. And I know there's like a running joke,

like every time Turtee comes to Florida, she ends up like extending. I really was not planning on it. I really was not planning. No, she said up, down, left, right, center, I'm not coming to see you. I'm not doing the drive. Don't count on me.

Yeah, no, I'm seriously not coming. So we planned accordingly and lo and behold. The thing is, I really wasn't expecting the physical implications of a five-day Moroccan wedding to hit me so hard, you know? As a pregnant person, the idea of waking up after the wedding and going on a plane, it was just kind of unfathomable.

And I'm like, what am I going home for? You know, besides for Romeo, I don't really have much waiting for me back in New York. So I figured I would spend a couple of days here at the beach, extended with Ben. We're staying at a hotel, we're not staying at Jackie's. So it's still very much like vacation energy, but we've met in the middle.

We're also testing out all the different podcast studios Southern Florida has to offer today. Let us know. By the way, so many options. You'd love to see the business of podcasting. Boomin'. Business is boomin'. I like to think that's our influence, but we never know.

We're happy to be here in a new setup, a great American tour of podcast studios. I like sitting across from a desk from you. I know, it's very intense. It's giving. News desk. The morning breath. It is giving.

I also love having the lower half of my body behind a desk. What the lower half of my body looks like these days is of really no interest to me or anyone. Yeah, no, you definitely dress differently for this environment. Yes, yes. Every podcast studio, podcast studios are more personal than comedy.

I know. More personal than food. This particular podcast studio has a studios are more personal than comedy. I know. More personal than food. This particular podcast studio has a lot of natural light, which I'm feeling a little nervous about just because I'm not in a state where like, I'm loving how I look naturally. So I am wearing sunglasses. If you're watching on YouTube,

you're like, why is this girl wearing sunglasses? I'm just, I'm feeling a little subconscious. I also like I'm doing a slick back button. Like who the fuck do I think I am? We're a little nervy. We're giving like, ee, nervous girlies. Nervy menti bees. Menti bee.

Honestly, name a phrase I dislike more than menti bee. When I was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Kyle Richards said that she had had a menti bee and she did have a mental breakdown. Did she say I had a mental breakdown or had an quote, empty bee? Empty bee. But now that I'm saying it, oh, I'm like,

is it an acronym? Menti B she said she had. And this is like a 55 year old woman. And it just invalidated everything that she'd been through up until this point. Yeah. Like that is such an unserious term. Agreed for such a serious condition.

It's really true. I don't know how they got away with that. Well, and it just like delegitimizes in my eyes, like everything, wait, speaking of real housewives of Beverly Hills, I saw, I don't know, you know, I get a lot of like AI generated Bravo news. So I saw, I think it was Kathy Griffin, who's friends with Lisa and Harry Hamlin,

said that when they were in Amsterdam, and you know, we don't wanna talk about the husband, and everybody's like, well, what was Kim gonna say about Harry Hamlin? Apparently this AI generated news story said that Harry Hamlin, this is from the mouth of Kathy Griffin, that Kim Richards was gonna say something about Harry Hamlin having sex with dogs.

Not what I expected. Of course not. She should have just said it. And now we've said it. The fact that Lisa didn't let her say that. To make, right, it would have invalidated her. There's a red flag. A thousand percent.

Huh. Huh. So we have a pargy show today actually it's Tuesday, which means we have Dear Toasters our advice segment. We also have White Lotus recap. So the new season of White Lotus started on Sunday, Jackie and I both watched the first episode last night. Unfortunately we did yeah. Yeah and do do do do do do do do, do, do, do, do, do.

I didn't enjoy the episode, and I wasn't sure if it was because before- Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Oh my gosh. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. I wasn't sure if it was because before the episode even started, I was disappointed. Where was the song?

I know, they kind of remixed it. It was a totally new song. They put a little regional flair on it, I thought. Okay, but the last two seasons were in different parts of the world, Italy and America, and they both have the same theme song. I just think they are trying something new. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

So we'll do a little bit of a TV recap in the fifth and final story, is that correct? Yes, we will. Let me just tell you, I spent the weekend at this beautiful, I would say, partilicious, definition wedding, which I don't know if I mentioned, was my friend Alicia, who's Moroccan.

Of course. And actually the groom was Syrian. I was on the cusp of forgetting. Right, right. Thank you for reminding me. Oh, and the groom was Syrian. Yes, so it was very kind of like multicultural, and it was reminding me a lot of my Big Fat Greek wedding,

because my friend Alicia, she has this huge family, and they're like really Moroccan. Both of her parents are Moroccan, and they're so proud, and they really remind me a lot of the family from my Big Fat Greek wedding, and how like Alicia married someone who wasn't Moroccan and they're so proud and they really remind me a lot of the family from my Big Fat Greek wedding and how like Alicia married someone who wasn't Moroccan but like in his 23 and mean. But she did marry an Ian Miller

because her husband has like a very small strain of Moroccan in his blood and like the whole weekend, different speeches, they were all just sort of like clinging to his little piece of Moroccan. I didn't know he had like a little bit of Moroccan in himself. It was cracking me up so much. Her family's so funny and the wedding was just pargy. Like, you know he had like a little bit of Moroccan in himself. It was cracking me up so much. Her family's so funny.

And the wedding was just pargy. Like, you know when you meet, like you know someone, like for, I've noticed this one in the eighth grade. Like to me, she's always just like my friend from the eighth grade. But you see her like, you know, grown into a woman and a bride. She had like a she had a chignon.

Like she looked so womanly. She's a very elegant lady, but she's just Alicia from eighth grade. That's what I'm saying. It was kind of like confusing. It was really pargy and it was just fab, but I really wasn't expecting. I feel like I hit an inflection point in my pregnancy,

like at the same time as the wedding, where like things are harder for me as of like a week ago. I really can't stand much. Just like a fun fact about me. Well, you should sit more. That's what I've been saying. Yeah. Just in general, but specifically hard for you to find a seat. Okay, actually, I thanked Ben like after the

wedding because there were so many wedding festivities. And once we got to every place, I'm like, Ben, I will go say hi to the bride. Go find a seat. The idea of being without a seat and someone like and so many of the girls that were pregnant and they're like more visibly pregnant than me. So when you have a really round bump, people get up for you, right? I wear a lot of flowy clothes, my bump isn't super bulbous, and so I'm not the type of gal you just get up for.

So I find myself rubbing my tummy. I do feel like outside of pregnancy, you're the kind of gal one gets up for. Oh, wow, thank you. The gupta, the queen is coming. Right, right, no, and I thought you were gonna say outside of pregnancy, I'm the type of girl who like a skill set of mine is finding a seat.

That too, but I just feel like if we're in a group, like even if we're in a group of friends and there's one chair and none of us are pregnant, like it's for Claudia. I'm so glad you said that. I actually agree. I am a sitter, like, and I'm also really special in the sense that I can find a chair anywhere.

Like yesterday we were waiting for our car at valet at the hotel and I literally sat on a luggage cart. Anything can be a chair if you really, really try hard enough. Yeah, so as long as you're finding what you need, you should be okay. Yeah, also- And I know you just missed me so much

and you just weren't ready to part with me. Well, you threw a beautiful birthday party for your son yesterday. I did. And I was really thrilled to be able to attend. You had told me so many times you weren't coming. Because it's so crazy to me, like your children are my life and like every time they like fart we come down and we celebrate.

Right, so I like I threw a birthday party. But I was being selfish, I said listen. Yeah, no no no and I was like okay yeah you can come to like every single party, it's a kids party, whatever. But just due to all the different circumstances like everyone wound up coming to this party and it was already such like a party event, like really fun, I love a kids party. And then my family was there and it was so beautiful.

You did a really nice job. Like them kids, they were just having the time of their life on their rocket ship. They were literally playing in all the blow up stuff as they were breaking it down. Like the rental company was breaking down the bouncy house and the kids were like, nope, we're still here.

Okay, we'll go to the next one. Go and break that down. They were so, so cute. It was a great party. You'll go to the next one. Yeah, go and break that down. They were so, so cute. It was a great party. You throw a great kids party. Thank you. I really enjoy doing it. I do hire a party planner because I can take that on

and I make it as easy as possible for myself. And I would recommend doing so because it was just, I had so much fun. It was space themed. Zach and I wore like NASA jackets. So cute. We were all like dressed like a little space family. I also feel like it's definitely a fine line

between like throwing a party that's like fun and then extravagant of course, $60,000. Of course you don't wanna be Taylor Armstrong. Correct, it comes to mind. And I feel like you do it really perfectly where it's definitely like extravagant but it's all for the kids. There's like a coffee bar for the adults

and it's like a super nice party, but it's like nice because there's so many fucking activities for the kids. You know, there's not like gift bags with Chanel perfume. You really do it well. It's a fine line. Yeah, I know, it's just like a couple things, like a ball pit, a bouncy house,

like the regular stuff and they'll have fun. Not to put Margot Washington blast, but I had a coffee cart and like the whole theme of the party was like outer space. So the coffee cart had a sign that said space coffee. Just to be like a part of the party. Like it wasn't like, it was just like thematic. And Margot is like, what's space coffee?

It's getting like chicken of the sea. I'm like, it's just coffee at a space birthday party. Right. It's just like, it's just a theme. That's like really about super such. So funny. No, so nice to all be together, like so randomly on this one afternoon. The photographer was like, let me get a picture of the sisters.

I was like, oh my sisters are here? All present and accounted for. It's seriously crazy of us. It was so random. It was so nice. It was so nice. It was so, so nice. It was a really nice weekend.

And we got to spend the day together after we worked really hard on Friday. Oh yeah, guys, what did you think? Friday's episode, we had a special new studio. We were really just kind of banging out content guys, what did you think? Friday's episode, we had a special new studio, we were really just kind of banging out content clips. What did you think? And tomorrow we'll find out what you thought of this one. Exactly, we celebrated Game Tunes

with so much love and tune-age. Did you celebrate Game Tunes? I did not celebrate Game Tunes in an official capacity. No, me neither. And at what time of day did your husband wish you happy Game Tunes? So I clocked it because I could tell he had no idea.

And then when we were all by the pool, I was like, do you have anything to say to me? And he was like, you look pretty? Like no. Happy anniversary? And then he realized, and it was 2 37 PM, I clocked the time that he remembered it was Valentine's Day after being prompted. Could be worse.

Yeah. Yeah. Could be better. Listen, he dropped the ball on game tunes. It happened. Did you get flowers? I got flowers in the evening. Like, I don't know where he plucked.

They picked up the remaining roses from the floor of the flower shop. Was clearly sold out. Like the neighbor had already thrown hers away and he got them out of the bin. But yesterday was our anniversary. And so he really made up for it with cards and he got me out of the bin. But yesterday was our anniversary and so he really made up for it with cards and he got me the most beautiful flower arrangement.

So it was nice yesterday to have the party and then also be like a celebration of our anniversary and just a nice moment. This week is always, you know, our big, but we still haven't gone out for our dinner, I'll say. You have a bunch of like important events in your life, like all in the same week. Now on Valentine's Day, Harry's birthday,

your wedding anniversary. Do you like that? I do, cause it's always just like all in the same week. Yes. Valentine's Day, Harry's birthday, your wedding anniversary, do you like that? I do, cause it's always just like a really nice special week and I look forward to this time of year. Plus it's around like President's Day, so sometimes we'll do a staycation, do a little something. I really, I do like it cause I'm sure it'd also be nice

if it was all spread out, but we have other stuff. You know, I don't wanna be like an ingrate. You don't like your timing? Well, you know what I was just thinking about? Mother's Day is like, I think my first Mother's Day, God willing, God willing, brochashem lian hara will be when my kid is one years old. Like, or like 11 months, whatever it is.

I think I just miss it. Yeah. And then I have to like wait a whole last year to be appreciated. Oh, but you'll be having Father's Day probably. The next month. That ain't right. Not to sound like Matt of Matt and Abby,

but I do feel like we should skip Father's Day 2024. It's only right. I completely agree. Like a month after, God willing, God willing, God willing, like I go through the trauma of labor. No, I- You get celebrated. I just want you to know,

God willing, God willing, God willing, God willing, God willing. I am not texting Ben that day. Good. I am not texting Ben that day. You better not get a, I'm so sorry Ben, but like this has to be. It has to be this way. It has to be like calendar year.

And you do not get him a card. I could just see you being like, he's been so amazing. He probably will be like, I should get him a gift. Okay. I totally will. Also speaking of Matt and Abby, have you heard about their latest scandal? No, what are they up to, those crazy kids?

So they released a podcast episode, and I just wanna say, they have a lot going on, but we don't talk enough about how high quality their content is. Even his cringe music videos, I don't know what sort of equipment he's using, if they have a director of cinematography that works for them. Everything they put out-

We need a director of cinematography. That's what I'm saying, everything they put out is so pargy, and so he put up this clip, and I- We should reach out to them. They live put out. We need a director of cinematography. That's what I'm saying. Everything they put out is so pargy. And so we put up this clip. We should reach out to them. They live in Phoenix, so I don't know if we'd be able to work with this person remotely. No, but just to understand their workflow.

Yeah. No, not for their person, but just for their workflow. How you keep the content consistent and pargy. I just think you have to be crazy. So he even put up this podcast clip, and I know that it wasn't the point of the podcast clip, but I was thinking like how high quality and well made this clip was.

It was kind of felt like there was a camera on the ceiling and he's laying on a mattress on the floor in his closet. And he opens up with everybody that he has been sleeping in the closet. And that's not a metaphor, I'm sorry. It sounded like it was. He brought them, the crazy part is that, so him and Abby aren't sleeping in the same bed.

Which by the way is like whatever. But instead of sleeping in the guest room, he took the mattress from the guest room and put it in the closet. Because? The clip was very much like a teaser for the podcast episode, which I did not listen to in full. And every person like I talked to about this

in comment section, I read, nobody actually listened, nobody knows why, they're just like, why are you sharing this? And why didn't you just sleep in the guest room? Well, I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason. As there always is. As there always is with Matt and Abbie, but they're like rage bait click baiters.

And they want you to listen to the podcast. And I'm not gonna give into it. I'm not gonna be like, oh my God, he's so crazy. Like I'm sure there's a perfectly logical in Matt's brain reason. Right, there's like a mouse in the guest room. Yeah, or like there's a mouse in the closet and he's like trying to trap it.

Totally. It's just like something so Matt. So Matt, are you more of a Matt or an Abby? You are such an Abby. I am an Abby. Cause I think you are such a Matt. You are such a Matt. I know, the thing, and that's why we're

too successful podcasting too. You can either be a Matt or an Abby. You're totally an Abby cause like, and I think this is the is the lore on the internet. It's like Abby does so much. She's a really, really invested mom and business woman, and she's a fitness, she's one of those people where it's like, how does she have enough time in the day

to be doing all of this? And then it just seems like Matt's in the closet working on his music, which is so me. Which is so you. And I can't stress enough how he's physically in a closet. It's not like a gay thing. It sounds like he's in the closet. No, no, he's literally in the closet.

Yeah, he's in the closet. As in a physical space. I understand. Not a place. I understand. Okay, it just sounds like I'm being like, like I'm calling him gay. Yeah.

I'm not. No, it's just the closet. Right, the closet is also a physical place in addition to a figurative one. A mental place as well. I understand, well. I think that's enough Matt and Abby talk. Good speed to Matt and Abby.

Good luck. Good speed? Good God speed. Also good speed. I hope you catch that mouse. Try Raid. Try Raid. And I think.

Without further ado, do, do, do, do. Do you think? It is time, yeah, I think so. We-Raid. And I think. Without further ado-da-doo-da-doo, it is time. Do you think? Yeah, I think so. We've got a lot to talk about. We've got a lot to do today. White Lotus, Dear Toasters. Oh yeah, Dear Toasters. Dear Tiestas.

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not to be biased obviously, but if you're gonna shop a specific rancher, I would recommend Tert Ranchers. Those are some of the best ranchers, not to be biased obviously, but if you're gonna shop a specific rancher, I would recommend Tert Rancher. Our first story, SNL 50 went off this weekend. If you were looking for the celebrities, they were all at SNL 50. Except for Turte, she was at a wedding that was both Moroccan and Syrian.

Of course, but the Syrian had also Moroccan in him as well. Correct, correct, Very Ian Mueller. So I would say it was like, would you say 60-40 Moroccan to Syrian? In terms of the guests? In terms of the... The vibes? Just like in terms of the lineage of the couple because he has a little bit of Moroccan. No, I would say it was like 90-10.

Oh, he has 40% Moroccan. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry. Yeah, 60, 40. 60, 40 feels right. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool. So everyone else was at- It's literally 51, 49.

Like that's how it was. He was just like a little bit of Moroccan. Everyone else was at Smill 50. They really made the most of this moment. They did. I don't know who decided like, hey, let's have like the biggest steal moment for our 50th anniversary.

I remember SNL 40 and it was also a really big deal. I agree, but not like this. No, not like this, but maybe I just wasn't super socially conscious at SNL 40. I was 20 years old. I probably had better things to do. I feel like I remember SNL 45

and that was just like, hey, we're 45. Yeah, I don't think 45 should be like as big as 50 or 40. But everyone really has like a really big 50th birthday. So like all the celebrities who have ever hosted us now, like everyone was there in the audience. They had a three hour live show. They also had like another thing the night before. Yeah, I thought that was the thing.

And like Miley performed, what the fuck was that? At Radio City. I don't know. And also I feel like while it's super impressive to like sit back and look at like the legacy of this one particular show, I feel like it didn't paint current SNL in the most positive light because it just sort of reminded me

of how many iconic people have come through that door, how much culture they actually changed and influenced, and how many references and comedy, and even how many movies ended up getting made from things that started on SNL, like Wayne's World. Like Superstar. Right, Mary Catherine Gallagher, yes. And like that era of SNL is so over.

Now it's like a fun show, people like it makes like cultural buzzy moments, but it so doesn't have the impact that it once did. So while it's cool to like look back and celebrate, I was like, oh, we're pulling, you know, Domingo Espresso, you know that sketch? Yeah. Well, we all enjoyed it.

It's not even remotely as like viral. Well, it is viral, but like impactful as some of the past sketches that have went on to become like billion dollar franchise movies. Yes, I agree. So is that what they did? They redid old sketches? Kind of.

Cause I saw the Sabrina one. I saw like bits and bobs of. They brought people back to like revitalize iconic sketches that like have lived in the SNL hall of fame. They brought famous people who have co-hosted, like they've, they just sort of like played up on their own history and- For three hours?

Yeah, there were performances as well, different monologues. So it was a lot. Okay, so a few of the noteworthy moments that I've seen, cause I didn't watch the whole thing, but it was on like Zach was watching it. So I caught a lot. Okay, so a few of the noteworthy moments that I've seen, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but it was on, like Zach was watching it, so I caught a little bit. I've seen some stuff online, like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds were there.

That's kind of like the headline. Not only did they show up, but Ryan participated in a bit in the monologue. Very short little. Where, who was the person talking to him? Oh, so funny, like irrelevant. We don't even know. I actually don't even remember.

Oh, it was the girl. It was Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. They were like, oh, Ryan Reynolds. So many celebrities, Ryan Reynolds is here and he stood up and he's like, hey everyone. And they're like, Ryan, how are you? And then he's like, fine, what have you heard?

And I have seen like pretty much 50-50 reception. I thought it was actually one of my favorite things when a celebrity is going through like a big scandal, is to like face it head on, make a joke, I think that's a really good PR move. I just think if you hate Ryan Reynolds and you think Blake Lively is a disgusting woman who made up her sexual harassment, then you hated this.

And if you feel like they have been, if you're like Team Blake or you just don't care, I think it's, I thought it was a good PR move. Because they've been hiding and that makes you look guilty. I agree. I do think it's a net positive. I'm someone who's like been pretty much team Blake, but now I'm like, I'm just gonna skrrt out of here.

Yeah, Jackie's like tiptoeing out of the room. Actually, I'm not even doing it quietly. Like I'm letting you guys know, like I am- You're sharing your thought process. I am flip, flop, flippity flopping on this because I don't know these people. I don't know the situation. I don't understand it.

So anytime someone says something, I'm like, well that sounds bad. You make a good point. I'm like, that's really bad that you did that. Yeah, yeah, not a good thing. So I feel like I'm actually, in that sense, unbiased. I'm not stuck on a team that I now can't get off of. So for my POV, this was good for them to just see them out,

to see them laugh about it. The only thing that I thought was a little confusing was Blake's reaction to that. Everyone said she was in on the bit. Ryan's not standing up without her knowing about it, but she's not that good of an actress. Okay, that is sure she is a particularly bad actress. However, there's literally zero chance in hell.

Ryan Reynolds forced Blake to go to this event and didn't tell her about this bit that was gonna be televised referencing this huge scandal that has rocked their world. This is a thing that they talk about every day that they can't leave their house. They're a Roman Empire. This is their Roman, Jackie, there's no fucking way.

I know, I know that logically. Yes, a lot of people. But watching it, that was a look of genuine shock. What? And confusion, and horror. And so a lot of people thought that like Ryan, and so this also does play into a big theory of people who are Team Justin being like,

Ryan is in charge of this whole thing. He ruined the movie. He rewrote the script. Blake is a victim of Ryan's. And so this sort of only feeds that theory. I think there's literally no chance in fucking hell that she didn't know about it. I do agree with you.

And I have seen things turn towards, this is like a Justin vs. Ryan situation and like Ryan bamboozled Justin just like he does Blake and I just want to go back to what we thought about these two a year ago before any of this. Before it ends with us. Because the blinds. We have long referenced this one particular blind item about this couple. From crazy days and nights anti-lawyer.

I never cared about Ryan Reynolds or Blake Lively. They weren't celebrities in my periphery and the only thing I sort of knew about them was this one blind item we had read 10 years ago. Just stuck with you. Just that Ryan Reynolds was really controlling that any script that came into their house was vetted by him and any movie she ended up doing

was he approved and that made sense why she does the worst fucking movies ever. And it was just something like I read and just believed and like stuck with me. And then this whole thing has caused me to like look at them differently and I'm like shifting my perspectives. But we mustn't forget about that blind item.

Yeah, so that's a theory too. And that also I think would be a relief for people who don't want to think like Blake is that bad of a person because they're like, Oh, it was Ryan. Right. She's just being manipulated. Yeah. But I don't know now, like. I also hate theories like that. Cause it's just like, you're operating under the assumption

that like this woman successful business woman, mother of four has no agency over her own life. Right. Right. And I actually don't think that anymore in seeing her in interviews and the way that she talks. Like I do see her differently. Yeah. But something.

I know. There's a something there. There was also a lot of like interpersonal relationships, different conflict conflicts at SNL 50, Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian were both there. And I actually saw a video of them at the after party, which looked like the most probably more like the most amount of famous people to be in a room, like an actually famous people,

not like socialites, like really, really famous people all in one room, Kim and Pete. Like kind of like the Met Gala, but probably even more famous people because there was also probably people that wouldn't ordinarily get invited to the Met Gala. And half the Met Gala, that's what I meant, it's like really like high society.

We don't know you. Yeah. But I'm sure you're very wealthy. Museum patrons. Right. This was just such like really, if you weren't there and you're a celebrity right now, like best of luck to you.

Like it was really the who's who. So I would imagine that anyone who's ever hosted got invited and everyone who's ever performed. Like no, actually. So many people have hosted and I don't feel like they were all there. But also there were some people, like famous castmates who weren't even there.

I saw a lot of people upset that Nassim Pedrad wasn't there. Not everyone was there. Not everyone. Maybe they didn't wanna go. Yeah, maybe. Is there beef? Aubrey Plaza was there,

which I think a lot of people found to be really shocking. She just did a very brief, I think she introduced Miley. Given that her husband just, she just went through something really tragic like a month or two ago. But yeah, everyone was there. So Kim and Pete, and I saw a video of them

like literally walking by one another without acknowledging. Now maybe they had already said hello. This was just one moment in time. But I just kept thinking about that thing you told me about the episode of Kardashians where she said like the minute she broke up with Pete was when he suggested she stopped working. So I'm like, maybe these two did end like not well.

Yeah, no, or work less. I actually feel like they probably ended fine. I don't know if I'm serious. Yeah, but it was so serious. So serious. Nothing was ever more serious. No, I saw like some crowd shots in Twitter. It's like Kim Kardashian.

Oh my God. And then in front of her is Lady Gaga. Oh my God. And then like Adam Driver sitting there in a tux, like just so crazy. It was also a big night for power couple, Martin Short and Meryl Streep. Yeah.

They were both there separately and together. You love to see her showing up supporting her man. Yeah, so I do think that Snow 50 like had the effect that- The intended effect. People wanted it to have, they had their moment. Snow 50 like had the effect that the intended effect people wanted it to have. They had their moment. Bill Murray, like the great Bill Ferrell. They also had their like documentary too.

So there's like a lot of like just news coming out and like old clips resurfacing and behind the scenes tidbits. So like everyone's talking about Snow, I'm happy for them. The show fucking stinks all the time. Just make it better, hire better people. Like bring it back, you know, restore it to its glory. Maybe, maybe this would be a good reminder of that.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it really highlighted this thing that was once great and it's still here. And I know there are like people who really like it, but I think overall, like you can't deny that the impact of SNL on like comedy, on American culture is nominal compared to what it once was. And that's so cool to see like Chevy Chase there.

He's like really like the biggest thing to ever come out. I love Chevy. He's so chevalicious. Yeah. And like to see like Chevy Chase there. He's like really like the biggest thing to ever come out. I love Chevy. He's so chevalicious. Yeah. And like who is the Chevy Chase? Do you know what I mean? Of today. Of course.

Because I like to think of like the biggest male lead right now on SNL. Of course it's Mikey Day. Is Kenan. But like Kenan doesn't have like, Kenan had a. Kenan's not a movie star. I know. He's an SNL star. He did a sitcom and it didn't like, it doesn't have like Keenan had a- Keenan's not a movie star. I know. He's an SNL star.

He did a sitcom and it didn't like, it didn't do well. It's, I just think of SNL's like impact is not what it was. And so- It's Mikey Day. It's 1000% Mikey Day. It's always Mikey Day. And it's always been Mikey Day, okay? Get that finger out of my face.

We're so close. Hey! Hand heart. Okay. You should bring back the hand hug. Do we? My palms are a little sweaty. It's hot in here.

Yeah, we're just working hard. We're hard working ladies at the office. I'm working late. I can't believe I didn't even talk about my commute. Like, let me tell you. Jackie commuted to work today. As somebody who works from home, like this is revolutionary.

What podcast did you listen to? As somebody who works from home, I was listening to the short podcast did you listen to? As somebody who works from home, I was listening to the short and sweet bonus tracks, but then I realized I can't listen to new music on a new drive. I need familiarity in these new streets. So I went back to F1 trillion. But as someone who has always lived in a city,

but I never had my license, I have never in my life driven myself to work. Oh my gosh, does it ever get old? I think it does actually, like very quickly. Oh my God, me and work. Oh my gosh. Does it ever get old? I think it does actually like very quickly. Oh my God. Me and my coffee with my lipstick. Like, Hey truckers took two highways to get here. What's going on?

Yeah. It does get old. Hey truckers, what's good? I think it's at first something like exciting. And then it's just a 20 minute dread fest. I'm living the dream. She's so American. It was so exciting.

Like I just, oh my gosh, you guys. You and Tessie. Me and Tessie, we had a great drive over here. Next time we'll like, we'll work some coffee into the route. But you know, I just wanted to get my, I wanted to get my route mapped. And Tessie definitely took me like a crazy way. There were so many turns

when there did not need to be so many turns. She wanted to see me turn. I'm like, girl, stop. She said, do a flip. I said, Tessie, stop challenging me. I can just see you in the Tesla talking to your car. I'm getting a new car soon. And I feel like I haven't even made a big deal about it.

No, you haven't. Even though I did a whole vlog test driving different cars. You have made a somewhat of a big deal about it. I was this close to getting the Cybertruck. This, seriously, if Jerry had called me on a different day, like it would have been the cyber. And for those who don't know, Jerry is your local sales associate at Tesla.com.

He's like the guy who's been assigned to my account. He's been so patient with me really talking through all the options. But at the end of the day, Jerry and I decided that I love my car. Like I seriously wouldn't change a hair on its head. I'm so happy. I'm so comfortable.

And you and Jerry like need to do what's best for you and Jerry. Right. Of course. And of course what's best for me is what's best for Jerry because he'll get the commission. Commission's commission. And I told him, I am Tesla loyal, you don't have to worry about me going somewhere else,

but let's talk it through. Cyber truck, Model X, Model Y. But I do want a little new something. I've had the car two years. Luckily, they make a new Model Y now. Luckily. So I have an extension. I've had my car for two years, so I'm on a lease extension until the new Model Y now. Luckily. So I have an extension. I've had my car for two years.

So I'm on a lease extension until the new Model Y drops. So I'm getting my car, but like the newer version. They say it looks like a cyber truck. I haven't heard that. I haven't heard that. So yeah, I'll have to commute in that one. See how it goes. Big things coming. Big things coming. Big things.

You know who else has big things coming? Meghan Markle. Okay. Not only does she have big things coming, she's embracing transparency. She is embracing transparency and I want her to go back the other way. Oh wow. I want her to go back into opaqueness

because this is too much that she's telling us without telling us enough. First of all, she has her new business launching, as she said, she posted a video. Formerly American Riviera Orchard. Yeah, I feel like people might not be putting this together because it took me a minute. Same.

American Riviera Orchard, which was launched almost a year ago, because I remember that was the week that you were off and I was talking about it with like Stassi, everyone came on the show, I'm like, let's talk about it. So, and that was in April. So almost a year ago, ARO, then nothing came of it. And then-

It was supposed to be like a jam company? It was supposed to be like, where's, like, a million things. It then- It was supposed to be like a jam company? It was supposed to be like wares, like a million things. It started with jam, but then it went nowhere. I think there was- We actually didn't even get much. We just got like a logo. I think there were trademark issues and she had to like stop what she was doing.

So now it has been rebranded. It's called As Ever. Now, if you've been following Meghan as an influencer for the last two weeks, you will see she signs her posts as ever Meghan. Oh, I didn't even put that together. I thought what you were going to say if you've been following Meghan's new career,

well actually revitalized career as an influencer, you wouldn't be surprised to know that she shared all this information on her Instagram. And my Instagram must know that I die for these videos because every time she posts, it's the first thing that comes up in my feed. And recently I've been getting strangers in my feed, have you?

Always, every fourth thing is something from the algorithm. Every first thing, it's like someone's engaged. I'm like, wait, who do I know who got engaged? Or how did baby? People I've never heard of with 300 engaged. I'm like, wait, who do I know who got engaged? Or had a baby? People I've never heard of with 300 likes. Who are you? Literally, who are you? Interesting.

So the first thing I saw this morning was Meghan and I was like, oh my God, freaking. And I thought it was just gonna be like another one of her sort of mindless Billie Eilish lunchbox videos. But this one was kind of full of tea, if you will. I think she wanted you to think it wasn't a big deal, but it was a very big deal. But she was being really open.

Not only like her spilling the beans, that American Ruby or Orchard, whatever the company, is her company, but also like Netflix invested in it, which I thought was really interesting. Yeah, so she's doing her show with Netflix, and then she's also doing her business with Netflix. Now she kept using the word business, like Romy and Michelle do, like I've got a business.

What kind of business y'all in? Seriously, what kind of business y'all in? You know, calling it a business as opposed to like a company is weird. She kept saying like, I have my show and I have my business and my business and my business. It's like, what kind of business y'all in? So she's gonna have to clear that up.

What's so crazy to me is that they chose American Riviera, which I'm sure it was Q score tested, focus groups, et cetera, lawyers. They didn't check the trademarks? No, and the fact that that was like a non usable name because she said in her Transparent video which I do feel like is not all the way transparent, which is why it's like go back to opaqueness She said if they did American River era orchard, which is like the nickname for Montecito and her neighborhood She would have been limited to only sell like things that come from locally sourced in Santa Barbara says who you know

That's not a good reason to change your name and that's not the actual reason. So the fact that she had to change her name before her business even launched is so crazy. It is how one of these businesses however have been years in the making. However, let's not forget that one of the most successful influential billionaire status companies was once named Kimono. True. It isn't necessarily, cause I remember when that happened to Skims, I'm like, this is the end. Like before they even launched, it's such a bad omen.

She got so much backlash, cultural appropriation. The mayor of Tokyo. Yeah, right. And so we were like, oh, this company's never gonna take off. And you literally had forgotten about it up until right now. Like it didn't hinder its success. So it's not an automatic kib. So it's not an automatic.

Kabash. I just want to say that was like a two week period and it was very swift and like the, it's crazy that no one like had the thought up until that point, but like, okay, but this is like years, years and the, whatever stopped them from being able to use it, like, I just don't know how that didn't come up in the year long process. And she keeps saying, I've been waiting years to put this out, like what, why years? Yeah, it just sort of-

You wanna launch a business, get started. You could put this in the file of like things Megan does from a business perspective that either never launch or don't make sense. Like really, it's so on brand for her, to be honest. And I actually like this approach. And she references the TIG in her videos. She's like, for those of you who have been following me

since the TIG, you know, like I love gardening, crafting, cooking, et cetera. And this is like a- Why wouldn't she just call it the TIG? Oh yeah, by the way, let's talk about that. Cause the TIG is actually a great name. It is. For like a blog and you can, I could see it turning into,

if I had like a pan and they're like, what brand is it? And I looked it over as a TIG, like I like that. And it's hard to get recognition. She already has that with like the OG fans, but now everybody knows like Megan, who was a princess, also used to be a blogger. So why? Maybe she doesn't own it.

Like I have to, and also it would just be such like a nice homecoming type of thing, like back to her roots. Yeah. I don't understand. Also why not call it with love, which is the name of her cooking show. There are so many, like, and I said this a few weeks ago, there are so many isms in their world.

Under her umbrella. Duke, Duchess, Royal Highness. Harry, Meghan, Mount Paterson. Harvey? Harry. Harry, yeah. Archwell, archetypes. Yeah.

With love, as ever. American Riviera Orchard, the Tig. Sussex. It's too much, and also like with love and as ever, like those are like. The same thing. The same thing, they're also like nothingisms. They're like signatures.

They're not like hard names. Yeah. I also like don't love that the E in ever isn't capitalized. It is or it isn't. It's not, and it's like bothering me. That's interesting. In what I've seen, yeah, every time she writes it, it's capital A lowercase E.

That's a pretty logo though, I wanna say. Like the font is pretty. It's like script. Yeah. You can find that on Instagram. Okay, you're such a hater. I'm sorry, like I've given her so much runway. I was excited for the show.

I've been begging for the show. The show's still not here. The brand is a mess. The show is still not here. The show's still not here. The brand is a mess. These videos are a mess. She can't even make a video

without cutting every three seconds. The cuts were really bad in this one. After every phrase. Like it's just, she's being the person that like everyone said. She was. To look out for. Well, I'm holding space for multiple truths, you know?

That's what you have to do. Yes. As a fan of these two. By the way, if you are like a fan, and actually in moments like this, like I often think of Stacey Schroeder, who is like a diehard Meghan Markle fan. It must be really unexciting

to be like a big Meghan Markle fan because it's so many announcements and no releases, right? It's kind of like, what do they say? Like edging when you like masturbate to the point of ejaculation, but you don't ejaculate. Like there's so much hype. Oh, show, company, documentary, book, and then never comes, podcast.

Where is the ejaculation? I don't know where the ejaculation is. And I'll leave you with that. No, that's a pretty good metaphor. It is, right? And I've heard the term. Edging, yeah, I forgot, I think I learned it in like a TV show.

I think I learned it in like a reel. Reels are so crazy. Real people are real people. You know what it is? Reels is a little too filled with real people. Like I'm good. Yeah. What if they say social media is a highlight reel?

Like it's not real. You know what? I think I prefer it that way. I prefer it that way too. The alternative is just too sad. But maybe like someone's edging experience was their highlight. Oh wow, okay, pop off queen.

Now that our phones are like sitting right next to us, we're gonna get so much edging content. Stop. Cause it's picking up edging, edging, edging. I like to edge. Sourdough, gardening. Meghan Markle. Knitting, power tools.

Let me take Jackie's phone. I need you to be- Give me your phone. Meghan Markle positive, positive your phone. Meghan Markle, positive. Positive, we love Meghan Markle. Meghan is a queen. The royals were wrong for what they did to Meghan. Red 40.

Ma-ha. Vaccines. We need to both be radicalized. Wait, let me think, let me think. Oh wait, Blake Lively, innocent. Innocent Blake Lively. Justin Baldoni, bad. Interesting facts about the Titanic.

That I wouldn't mind. Historical anecdotes I would find interesting. Beef stew. Beef stew recipes. Oh, Pop Tarts. Cereal is good for you. We like sugary cereal. Sugary cereal is good for kids and adults, especially pregnant women. Pregnant women can take Advil. Thank you. Oh, I need your phone still.

Oh, enjoy. That was fun. I hope you enjoy your new life. You too. By the way, let me set you free from the shackles of health and wellness. It's true. You need to be unburdened by what has been. But like, I actually think Megan falls into my bucket of life. Definitely. So I think it will be good for you. And that's why I want her show to come. And I want her products to like influence.

Yeah, the use. But like when there's nothing, I'm sorry. I'm getting impatient. I'm sorry for that. It's also really hard to like, our job is to talk about her and like, there's a lot to talk about, but there's also nothing to say

because we have yet to see a piece of content. No, and like when you're rooting for her, it's like, yeah, she's got a Netflix show and she's got a business with the capital B. And it's like, until that day comes, she doesn't have those things. It's fair. And I've really been hyping up like this era

of content creation for her. You have. But I'm looking like a fool. And I just have one question. Now you know how I feel. What kind of business you in? That's a good question. What the fuck is she selling?

I know she said, I know she said she's gonna sell jams because quote, jam is my jam. Loved that. What else is she selling? No, now you know how I felt, well feel. When? Like lively.

What about it? Like when you're rooting for someone so hard and they like kind of like, it becomes hard and embarrassing. Yeah, and I'm Blake Lively. What about it? Like when you're rooting for someone so hard and they like kind of like, it becomes hard and embarrassing. Yeah, and I'm like, because I don't freaking know these people, I'm woman enough to say I'm out of here. I just wanna say, I know a lot of people like,

hate me for my Blake Lively takes and I've definitely pulled them back. And it's like, oh, well Claudia knows she's wrong, so she's not, I'm really not afraid to admit when I've been wrong. Like I was wrong that Travis Kelce did know Taylor Swift. Like I was 100% wrong about that. I have not been convinced.

And I will keep you guys updated. If I ever do get convinced, I will be woman enough to say that I was wrong. Okay. In this moment, I know you guys don't agree with me. I still stand firmly on where I was before. Like I do not think that this person is a good guy. That's not the question.

I do think he did all those things. I do think like Blake Lively, yeah, she's like a mean diva actress bitch. I think she was the victim. I'm sorry, I do. Okay, that's the question. Of both an online attack and an in-person attack by this, like who I think, a freak.

Unprompted. Well, okay, let's say she was a bitch. No, that's not, that's fine if she's a bitch. Unprompted meaning like she wasn't on the attack, so then he attacked her. No, correct. Unprompted in that sense. Correct.

Okay, cool. Our next story, Craig E. Conover is on the Tamron Hall show. Oh yeah, sorry, I said it like bad news. No, it's just like Craig now like making news as a single man. It's been a lot of days since we did a show, because this happened a few days ago and I had forgotten about it. It's been a lot of days since we did a show because this happened a few days ago

and I had forgotten about it. It's been a lot of days. I still didn't watch Southern Term because now I'm going to batch them because my friend told me that this week in the Bahamas episode is kind of like a primer for next week. So I'm like, that'll be more fun to watch together.

But I do think that ever since that clip teased of Paige saying Craig texting two bitches, like Craig's gonna kick it into high gear. Kick into high gear, like, hey guys, I'm still Craig-y. Like, I wouldn't do such things. Yeah, and up until this point, he has definitely, like people are divided, especially like, Paige is like a really loyal fan base for her podcast.

So people have, like her fans have been on her side. But for the most part, like, it's been pretty equal. People really still like Paige. People really still like Craig. Craig hasn't, I don't think, received any sort of like, backlash or anything, because he has kind of been like perceived as the victim. Like he's the one who got broken up with.

So this is the first time where he's like kind of on the defense. Yeah, because like nefarious behavior, he has been accused of. Was alleged. So on the Tamron Hall show, he was asked if he started dating again. He said, I'm trying to move forward,

so I downloaded a dating app and it wasn't what- I'm which one? Probably Raya. He said, it wasn't what I, it didn't feel as good as I thought it would be, he said. He confirmed that he's matched with people, but he's not talked to anyone yet. He said, I'm still healing on myself

because I really did think I was gonna spend my life with Paige and it's okay, but I don't think rushing into something, he began to say before cutting off his thoughts and changing his tune. He said, well, I don't know, if the right person comes around, while Tamron interrupted him and pointed out that he's giving mixed signals. It's confusing. he began to say before cutting off his thoughts and changing his tune. He said, well, I don't know, if the right person comes around,

while Tamron interrupted him and pointed out that he's giving mixed signals. It's confusing. Yeah, he acknowledged his differing views, but also explained that he has never done this before and is still just figuring it out, the weird new chapter. He said, I just think for me, I think it's about going back to my routine

and living my life, and if I meet someone through that, then just go with it, but I'm not gonna overthink it. I feel like I get what he's saying, which it's like, I'm not, like, I want to find someone. I also recognize that I'm ready, but if the right person came around, like, I would be he's saying, which it's like, I'm not, like I want to find someone. I also recognize that I'm ready, but if the right person came around, like I would be ready. But it also leaves a lot of space

for the wrong person to come around and then him like give off bad energy. Right, but like if the perfect girl was in front of him, but would he even be able to identify the perfect girl when he's not healed? This was a quick turnaround from Tamron. Let me say that TV is known to like, really sort of lag behind

and it's not a live show. So good get. Yeah. I think she's like stepping into Bravo stuff a lot. Yeah. She like on the same network. No, I think she's on like Fox five. Fox five. Fox five.

What was I going to say about this? I feel like there's not a shortage of like nice girls who wanna date Craig. So I really feel like he should work on himself. But I'm sure there's also a nice queue of like girls who want to use Craig and they might all look alike. So he's gonna have to really have his picker strong. Yeah, I also, I had thought this

and then I saw people on social media saying it when Paige is referencing the two different girls he was texting throughout the course of their relationship. Yeah. I also, I had thought this and then I saw people on social media saying it when Paige is referencing the two different girls he was texting throughout the course of their relationship. I felt like the first girl she's referencing is Kristin Cavallari. Okay. Yeah. That is like the way they started their relationship, like we forgot, but like it was a little murky. Like he was talking to two girls at once and he decided to go with Paige. So I feel like that might've been like a thing in their relationship like the whole time. And she just like always

remember. I feel like that might be one of the girls. Yeah, I mean, it sounds bad the way that she said it. Like I caught him texting two bitches. I need more information before I'm like gonna drop the gavel on it, you know? But that's disrespectful. Right. We'll have to see.

But like, I also am gonna trust my fave. I'm gonna hear Craig out on this. We need to hear the final episodes of both of their seasons. Whatever Craig says that I need to hear Paige's response to that. It seems like Paige is gonna get the last word because Southern Charm is like in their, what, fifth or sixth episode and Summer House just premiered.

So we'll hear at the very end of Southern Charm season, we'll hear what Craig has to say about the relationship. That's a flaw. Him saying that he got the ring, whatever, making Paige look like the villain. And then Paige will be able to respond being like, well, actually you were texting bitches yes or no. That's a flaw.

Add Paige's clips to the episode of Southern charm. Just think about it, Bravo. No, add, wait. Like we're going to watch Craig say whatever he says on Southern charm. Then they should play pages. It's the same like day that it happened. So like put the Southern Summer House footage

in Southern Charm. Yeah, yeah. Let them speak to one another. Synergy. Synergize. It's time to synergize. I completely agree. Are you ready for our fourth story?

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I've been eyeing it. Oh, it's disgusting, enjoy. That's just been like sort of a problem with my commute. Is this, I was, this was my first coffee. It's been like a consistent issue after day one. Is that what you would say? Oh, the coffee's like not good. Yeah. Well, it's just like I said, right?

It's not amazing. You're not a good judge of coffee. I know when something's disgusting. Well, coffee is like gross. That's- I'm so glad you said it. Get real, like it's not like actually tasty. Yeah, people don't space coffee.

Of course. People need to treat coffee. Like they do alcohol, you know? Yes. No, that's exactly what it is. You just drink it. It's a means to an end. I don't actually like the taste. I like what it does for me.

Right. Like even the world. Cause I like sometimes like I crave. Unless I'm having like a vanilla bean macchiato frappuccino. That's not coffee. That's not coffee. But even when I like crave like a really, even the world's best margarita, which like, I love a margarita.

Yucky. Give me water. It's like if you gave it to a child, the coffee or the obviously wouldn't give margarita, but they would say that's gross. Yeah, and so the first time I ever tried alcohol, like ever, like hard alcohol, I remember somebody gave it to me in like a water bottle.

It looked like water. I'm like, I didn't know what it was gonna taste like. And I thought for sure that somebody accidentally gave me like a bottle of gasoline. Like I didn't think, I'm like, there's no way this is what people drink in the movies. It's impossible. And it was like, wait, what the fuck?

It was shocking. Yeah. Well, our next story is also really shocking. It's kind of the theme of the day. The Jonas Brothers have revealed Jonas Con, a one day fan event in New Jersey, centered around the Jonas Bronis. This like makes me sad.

In honor of their 20th anniversary, yes, you are old if you are listening. You are old and I just want to say the Jonas Brothers put out a statement on the 20th anniversary, which was a couple of days ago. And I'm reading it, I'm like, oh my God, they're breaking up again. It was such like the way it was written.

It's very nerve wracking to be a Jonas Brothers fan. Like don't get comfortable. It's unsettling, yeah. Yeah. They cancel tours, they cancel the band. They can't fight. Yeah, they fight. They can't look at each other on stage.

Like this is their last show, this is how it ends. I only like ever would be interested in having a body language expert on the toast if they could tell us what the hell's going on with the Jonas Brothers. That's really funny. In honor of their 20th anniversary, the Jonas Brothers are giving fans

once in a lifetime experience. On February 14th, they announced that they'll host a special one day event called JonasCon in their home state of New Jersey. The event will feature live performances, DJ sets, Q&A panels, fan activations, pop-up surprises, immersive experience, and special guest appearances to celebrate the band's 20th anniversary.

Now, of course, the Jonas Brothers will be there. I should hope so. And I imagine they'll be playing, play my music. Unclear. I wanna play my music all night long. Music in my soul. Remember they played that on Dick and Rock and Clark? Did, yeah.

That so randomly, that's my favorite fucking Jonas Brothers song. It's so good. It's Camp favorite fucking Jonas Brothers song. It's so good. It's Camp Rock. We rock. Camp Rock. Oh my God, that's so crazy. Have you seen, oh no, that wasn't the Alison Stoner clip,

the Alison Stoner Demi Lovato. Do do do do. Beep bop booda. I have. I love them for that. But the Jonas Brothers like should be there performing. Unclear who else is performing, like who's doing the Q and A's and the DJ sets.

They have a lot of DJ friends actually, so I could see like, you know, the boys coming through. I just, I find my job really difficult because even like, and maybe people tune in for me to be like such a negative, complaining bitch, but like every story I'm like, Megan's like, I hate to put, and I would just like to- Literally I was the negative, complaining bitch

about Megan. I think people tune in for the truth. So whatever that is. I would love to be- I was the negative complaining bitch about Mike. I think people tune in for the truth. So whatever that is. I would love to be like, this is so great. Jonas Brothers fans are gonna have the best time. But seriously, like this is so low brow. There's something particular. I mean, it's giving TanaCon.

Remember in Tana Mongeau had like the most fucked up convention for her fans. Like people died on the streets. Like it's really something you do at the bitter end. And the Jonas Brothers, and this is what I feel like I said about them in the last end, they're always doing, it's like, they don't know how famous they are.

They're always doing really weird things. Like cash grabs. Cash grabs. And I just feel like they always think it's the end because they don't know like what's gonna set off Joe and Nick next, so it's like, let's make the money today. They live on the edge. Just like they're fans.

Yeah, and like, I remember we were talking about this because I think a while ago, what do my feet smell? No, I was wondering, am I touching your feet? I'm touching something. Okay. You're touching my shoe. I thought you smelled my feet or something. Oh my God. No. I took my shoes off.

I'm just like playing footsies with something. With my shoe. And I was like, is it her? So I remember saying this like maybe a year or two ago when the Jonas Brothers really decided to invest in TikTok. And there's a very fine line between like being an artist on TikTok and then becoming a TikTok artist. And I think that like, you know, Megan Trainor

is a great example of somebody who was making TikTok music and then was actually just became a pop star. Even though she was one before, but she used TikTok. And I think that Jonas Brothers like, they're investing so much in TikTok, they're doing like collabs with different TikTokers. I keep seeing a new one every day, like Joe Jonas popping up on all these random songs.

They are doing things where they like really don't know how famous they are. And this is one of them. And while it's nice to like give back to your fans, this to me is not why they're doing it. It's very clearly like, I actually don't know, it just doesn't align with what I know the Jonas Brothers to be like,

this very famous band. Yeah, Marshmello will be there. Correct. Even though like, and that's the other thing about the Jonas Brothers, there are a few people making music that's good. Like, I don't know why they're doing so much, like they feel like they have to prove something.

Yeah. I'll be curious to see like how many people, like maybe this is like a big, maybe they can make a couple mil in a day. Like BravoCon, yeah, where everybody comes to see them. They don't have to go on tour. They do all have young children. So it's like, this could be a good model. It could, it could, that's a good way of looking at it.

It just doesn't sound like it. And it also depends, what's the venue? Right, like is it premium, the Jap? Well, I think it's like- Is it like a convention center? That's not the vibe. Convention center is like giving retired, come see your favorite stars from the 80s.

No, but there are conventions that are still like really like think of BravoCon. I also think of like RuPaul drag con it's huge. But it's because these are like shows. Their world. Huge like cast. It's just three people. It's hard to have a convention for one thing.

It would be cool if it's like in an arena or a stadium. That's more of a festival though. Yeah, but maybe it's more of a, I think they're still thinking what it looks like. And it's a little bit- I wish they called it like Jonas Fest. Something con. Meet your favorite stars from the 80s.

It's giving, it's a con. Oh, for me it's giving legacy. Johnny drama. Yeah. Yeah, Saved by the Bell will be there. Yes, right, right. The cast of Saved by the Bell. Viking Quest.

Yeah. Okay, are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our White Lotus recap? Yes. Because one of the biggest names on the new season of White Lotus is Patrick Schwarzenegger, making a lot of headlines. He sat down with Vanity Fair to talk about the role.

And the fact that we saw his penis. And how he, quote, I fucked his way onto the White Lotus. Oh, no, because the thing is, and me and Ben were talking, it's so funny, I just met Patrick Schwartzinger, I don't even know if I told you this. I was out to dinner, and he was sitting with somebody that I knew, so of course, I'm so obnoxious, I'm like, oh my God,

Beau, hey, how are you? And I'm like, oh, who's this? Such a nice guy. And Patrick's the one that dated Miley? Yes, of course. Because I confused him with Connor Kennedy. They are the same, but Patrick greater than. Oh.

Just like famous wise, like Connor never like became as famous as he could have been. Maybe he's working, maybe he's toiling away somewhere. Maybe he's like in a military academy or something. No, no. And he's gonna be like the president. I think like he really did not like being famous as like Taylor's ex-boyfriend and like reverted back

after that. He never like aspired greater after, after being that. I don't know. I feel like he's at West Point. No, I like I saw him in the elevator at after that. He never like aspired greater after being that. I don't know. I feel like he's at West Point. No, I like I saw him in the elevator at Zero Bond. He's literally not. He's not at West Point. He's not at West Point.

The last time I saw him, he was at Zero Bond wearing a leather jacket. Okay, so I had high hopes for him. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he enlisted after. Or maybe he hit the night off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he came into the big city.

And you know the military loves to go to Zero Bond. And West Point's not that far from Zero Bond. No, for sure, for sure. Patrick Schwarzenegger, you saw him. What happened next? Such a pargy man. And I think he's engaged like a really pargy model. Abby Champion.

Really just pargeliciousness. And so his, I don't know him as an actor, but after watching the episode, I was like, wow, he's an amazing actor because he's fucking insufferable. And I just met him in person, really very like Hamish, nice guy. But the article is like giving his character.

Yes, a little bit. There are some like cringey tidbits, but also interesting. Like, first of all, he was set, it opens how he talked about like every Sunday night, he would like get together for dinner with his family and they all watch White Lotus together, which is just like weird. That's like a weird-

Like normie behavior? What? No, like- Oh, it's like a sexual show. It's just like a random sexual show. And it's like, that's what you guys are like glued to. It's not like Game of Thrones. That's actually a. That's like weird. What? No, like, it's just like a random sexual show and it's like, that's what you guys are like glued to. It's not like Game of Thrones. So it's like. So, and then how it was his dream to one day be on a season.

I think it's a lot of people's dream because like look at, you know, Megan Fahey, it makes a star. Yeah. Jennifer Coolidge. Every time we would watch, my family would just be yapping at me. Why aren't you on this show?

Why didn't you audition for the show? It's actually funny. You need to talk to someone to get you on this show. That's really funny. Oh, also, I saw her in a Shriver on the street the other day. Oh, wow. Yeah, like-

Something is like bringing you into their orbit. 1,000 percent. What do you think it means? No, literally, I was walking on Lexington Avenue, and she was just like walking the other way, just giving Business Woman, like wearing trousers. Interesting, maybe she was commuting to work. She was like outside a big business building.

Like, because we all kind of do business, and we have to get there. It was either American Riviera or shared office building. Yeah, we have touting to work. She was like outside a big business building. Because we all kind of do business and we have to get there. The American Riviera Orchard office building. Yeah, we have to get to work and that's probably what she was doing. Yeah. If only she had like was driving herself. They have so many different like corners of fame

within that particular family. Well, Chris Pratt. He talks a lot about, not a lot, but he talks a bit about Chris Pratt in this interview. First of all, his whole family went to the premiere. And then he was asking for, he got an audition. They didn't tell him it was the White Lotus, but like, I don't know how much I believe this.

He said, they said it was a show called like Secret Garden and they gave him like one line about who this character is. And he has to like make it his own. And Chris Pratt was like, you know, they only really watched five seconds of, in the first five seconds, they know if you're right for the role. I just want to say, I do believe that.

That he didn't know it was White Lotus. I think that that might be how they have a lot of people audition for White Lotus, cause it is this like larger than life and people are so lame. And the best part of it is like how people, how the actors take these random characters and like really make them their own.

I feel like a lot of it is the actors doing that. Yeah. So I can actually see that being like the challenge kind of when you, when you do a job interview and there's like a riddle they give you to solve like in finance. Or it's like undercover boss.

We're in a blender. Oh, that too. But like undercover boss, like he has to go undercover because everyone knows the formula. I kind of see that. So Chris had told him like, they'll know if you're right for it within the first five seconds.

So like do something interesting. So because he knew this guy was like kind of like misogynist, he was like, he said, they're the first five seconds. He kind of like, I fucked the camera. And was like acting like it was a girl, like, huh? And that he got the role. And then when he knew it was White Lotus, very exciting. And even when they were filming in Thailand,

like the whole family, Parker Posey and the gang, they like did everything together as a family. Like people would be like, you want to go to dinner? They're like, I'm having dinner with my family. They were like always watching movies. And like they would all, even before they started filming, do Zooms to get into this. It's giving her the Miller's Witness Protection Program,

the Salina family. But I guess that's good. Again, it's just acting. You have a nice family at home, but okay, sure, yeah. Yeah, the first episode of White Lotus was actually hard for me. One, because I didn't think it was so good. But that is White Lotus.

It's real character development. You have to put in the time. But mostly because I spent the entire episode on IMDB. Am I the only one? First of all, I could not fucking figure out of the three girl best friends, like the loser who nobody liked, who she is. Do you know who she is?

Who? The Gilded Age. She's the rich new family mom across the street. Oh my God. She is. And I can't say her name because she has such an unfortunate last name. Do you know what it is? I'm not saying it.

Wait, I'm going to go guilty. Oh my God. She is tied her hair blonde. She thought we wouldn't know. Jackie, this is her last name. Oh, I see. I see. I'm not saying that.

Okay. Bertha Russell. Bertha Russell. Yeah. So Jackie was bothering me so much. Then I could not figure out who Parker Posey's husband was. Well Parker Posey, Josie and the Pussycats. Please, I knew that almost immediately.

When I saw Parker Posey like on the credits in the beginning when they changed the song, I was like, excuse me, Josie. I knew Josie was gonna be there without the Pussycats and I was really excited. But you know who her husband is? Who? You probably don't know.

Lucius Malfoy, Draco Malfoy's dad. I just watched Harry Potter. Oh, beautiful. Then, the girl who has the boyfriend, the girl with the teeth. Yeah, who's that? She is like a classic. She was in Game of Thrones.

I think she was like one of the hookers. Yeah, like a bedwedge? Yeah, she was a bedwedge, thank you. Okay, let me go to just White Lotus season three cast. I was just like- And the little brother, what is he from? Cause I- Oh, he's like, you know, classic up and comer. He's classic, like summer I was just like. And the little brother, what is he from? Cause I. Oh, he's like, you know, classic up and comer.

Like. He's classic, like summer, I turned pretty. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like background actor. Yeah. Exactly. But like actually, what is he from? It was just so distracting.

I was like, I need to spend. And then I also wanted to know what hotel they filmed at. Cause I find that really interesting. It's the Four Seasons in Thailand. And you know, that's going gonna become like the next big hot thing like that Italy hotel, like good luck ever, every hotel that's ever been featured. Well, you know, I never watched season two,

but that's not like, I like the show actually cause you can kind of jump back in. Except that you kind of can't. The little brothers from Perfect Couple. So we just saw him. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's a little bro.

That's a kind of like all he gets cast as. Classic little brother. So, oh, oh my God, I didn't realize that the celebrity of the three friends, girls, Jacqueline, that's Michelle Monahan. Yes. I didn't know that was Michelle Monahan. And our queen, Leslie Bibb.

We love Leslie Bibb. Give Leslie Bibb all the jobs. All of them. She should be in every show. She's such a good actress and she did amazing. But I saw on the credits, Michelle Monahan's in this. Oh, I love that for her. Like after Tom Brady and everything,

she'll be on my focus. No, no. No? That's Bridget Moynihan. Oh, come on. And I want to say, you're not the only person who gets Bridget and Michelle, and they don't even have the same last name,

Monahan and Moynihan. Are you sure? Positive. Okay, so who's Michelle Monahan? Classic actress. She reminds me of like an Amanda Peete, you know? Yeah, she's just a gal. So Amanda Peete.

Oh, that's so funny that you thought it was Tom Brady's ex-wife, no. The one thing, cause I watched with Ben and Ben had not seen season one or two and I said, it's fine. It's just one of these shows that you can pick up. There is like a running theme that I don't think you know about with the Greg orange shirt guy.

Something to do with Jennifer Coolidge. Season one, he was her boyfriend there. They meet at the hotel. Oh yeah, they have it. He's like fake locked out of his room. He's giving like con man. We can't really figure out, but you know, she's this lonely old woman.

And then he like sees this wealthy woman and he immediately like, you know, drops everything to be there for her. And I think he was probably planning something with her. Then season two, which you missed, they show up as a couple. So they're like, you know, together still

after meeting in Hawaii. And he's very shady the whole season. He's like taking weird phone calls and he has to leave early. And then she's like hanging out with these gays who are trying to murder her. And she's- And they do, right?

Yes, but she's in their house and she sees a picture of these gays and her man, Greg, but he left. Like, how do you, so she's like, oh my God, I'm being set up like a lot of different things. These gays are trying to murder me. So he leaves the trip early. And then we find out last night,

he's been living in Thailand for the last year with this lady. So he is nefarious, but I do feel like, and I missed, I missed a lot of that. I didn't even realize that- So he's involved in her murder. So he's just weird and shady. And that's like really all we know.

And I kind of missed that. It wasn't until I saw like a TikTok recap, being like, did you catch this white lotus moment? I'm like, no, I didn't. Yeah, I was like, Greg. Yeah, I seriously like, TikTok recap, you're like, did you catch this white lotus moment? I'm like, no. I didn't. Yeah, I was like, Greg. Yeah, I seriously like, oh, got an orange shirt, cool. Yeah.

Cool. The episode was boring, but. We're setting the stage. Exactly. And it's a nice environment. It's part delicious. I miss the pineapple room guy. Like that was peak.

So pineapple room guy, I think like that role is the Patrick Schwartz. Of course. Like the enraging asshole. Of course, but like I reference the pineapple room guy all the time. Yeah, we've all been the pineapple room guy. If someone's like complaining about anything,

I'm like, don't be the pineapple room guy. And it's a really good and important lesson. Yeah, it's so true. And then there's some, so I didn't watch the second season. I'm sure I would enjoy it. They're just like very established characters. Yeah. A's so true. And then there's some, so I didn't watch the second season. I'm sure I would enjoy it. They're just like very established characters, a little bit infuriating, obviously very entitled. It's the way people behave on vacation.

So we'll see what this season holds. We will, but literally when you're like obsessed with TV and celebrities, like watching the White Lotus requires 20 minutes of research prior, because it was just infuriating trying to place people. Yeah, I was just, I didn't watch with anything else in mind. I was just like trying to be present.

I feel like I was present. So good of you. And then also the guy in the first scene, Zion, like when does he come? Because he was on the boat. So that's Belinda's son. That's Belinda. Oh.

Because she said my son is coming and then she's gonna call him. Yeah, and then he's looking for his mom. Yeah, right. Oh. So I think he gets there in a little bit. Okay, that makes sense. I thought he was a guest, but then I'm like, he's not here.

This is just the first season. And Belinda's in the second season, so she's also like a. Belinda's in every season. She's the common denominator. Yeah, she's exactly. Her and Jennifer Coolidge, but then Jennifer Coolidge is no longer with us. The last thing I wanted to say was this is the first time

that it's not like a traditional hotel. It's like this wellness program. It was giving nine perfect strangers. I didn't finish it, but it was like that annoying like. I didn't finish nine perfect strangers either, but it was. And I kind of, my favorite thing about White Lotus is like how classic hotel it is. Yeah.

And so much of this with like taking your phones away and like a diet program. That's not really like what we've come to expect. I was like, what is this a fat farm? I was laughing so hard. I didn't realize that's like a term everyone uses. I went when her, when his girlfriend said, that is so on brand for you,

being a victim of your own choices, like slay, and you just start using that. It's so true. Is that even his girlfriend? There's something, there's something not girlfriend like. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. There's something weird with everyone.

So we'll see on all counts. That's your white Lotus recap, and we'll try and stay up on it. Yeah, the final part of today's show is Dear Toaster is our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I read three submissions from girlies who have written into us desperately seeking advice from two extremely-

Beautiful women. Beautiful, I wanna say smart, I wanna say stunning. And so if you ever wanna write into us, you can do so one of two ways. Email us, DeerToasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com and there's a submission box. Both of those are totally anonymous.

Thank you to everyone who wrote in. So first up, we have a little bit of a breastfeeding issue. Hey, swirlies. I'm a nursing mom. I'm in the thick of postpartum. A good friend of mine who's also a mom and she's nursing came over to visit me this week and we talked about how trying to get a shower in a day can be really challenging

with a newborn. My baby was napping, so my friend just told me to go take a quick shower. I've known her my whole life, I know she's safe, so I decided to go ahead. When I was in the shower, I heard my baby cry and I got out. When I came into the room, my friend was nursing my baby. I confronted her and she said she was trying to help and comfort the child. She said I was being dramatic

and that she didn't want to disrupt my shower. I'm deeply disturbed by this and I feel like it was a huge violation and honestly creepy. I honestly feel like our friendship is over. Is that weird? Is it not weird? Am I being dramatic? Okay, obviously not cool. You have to really put myself in this situation. Imagine like a friend, we're both like nursing mamas. The friend is what makes it weird. Like I think that if I was, if you were doing me a favor coming over

and getting in the shower, the baby started crying and you happen to have also just had a baby and I came back and you were nursing my baby. Like I would not think that's weird because we're family. Right, but I would ask you still, even being your sister, like I would have to know. So that's like really crazy that she did that. If it was a friend, I would just you still, even being your sister, I would have to know. So that's really crazy that she did that. If it was a friend, I would just like,

also I would wanna know, are you guys aligned on other stuff? What is she eating? Like, is it, do you think her milk, if her milk is like finding you guys are on the same page about everything and so it's more so about the breach versus what actually your child got. So I'm gonna go ahead and say like the milk was fine.

It was just about the act of doing it. Right, she's not like doing meth and breastfeeding. Right, right, right, right. I would have a conversation with her, but like there's a path to forgiveness. I think, you know, it's, I guess like. She was trying to help. It's not a militia coming like from a bad place.

And just like give yourself fine comfort in the fact that like for centuries, this is what women did. So true. The village. What is that called? Wet nurse? A wet nurse.

Children breastfed off. It's really not a big deal. People even go to breast milk bank and get other women's breast milk. Yeah, but that breast milk has been tested thoroughly. Right, so that's why I'm like, if this woman's milk seems good to you. She makes good choices.

She makes good choices. It's, you're aligned. It's really crazy. Like. It's really crazy. Like it's really crazy. Now I think what you're saying is true. Like there, I don't think there are going to be implications like right, like negative health wise on the baby, but it's really crazy to nurse someone else's baby

whom you're not related to and you didn't ask. Yeah. I just feel like anyone that I'm super, super close with would a hundred percent ask me because I'm not close with a crazy person. Right. And so if it was someone that I'm super, super close with would 100% ask me because I'm not close with a crazy person. And so if it was someone that I'm not that close with that they felt like they wouldn't ask me, yeah, I don't need to be your friend anymore because we weren't that close.

Yeah, but let's also, let's put our caps on. What is this woman going through? She's also postpartum because she's nursing. Like maybe she- Is out of her mind. Heard the baby cry and it woke something in her instinctually, I don't know, I don't know. But the fact that she won't hear you out,

like you told her that they upset you and she like says you're being crazy. That's a bad sign. Like she should be receptive to your feedback. Yeah, you're not being crazy, but you know it's also hard to make friends. Like in the same stage. Especially mom friends. So like sometimes we just gotta be like,

okay, you go this way, you think this, I'll think that, but let's like still have a. I know, but like touching someone's baby, like I do fear. Well touching is, she was always gonna touch him. He was crying. Sorry, sticking your titty in someone else's baby. Maybe we're all a little too uptight about it. Oh wow, okay.

I don't think so. I mean, if it were me, like seriously, I would punch you in the face. But I actually don't know someone, I would not have someone in my house who would do this. So like, it's really hard to say. To put yourself in her. It is, what kind of friend, what level of friendship

that the person is in my house, but when I have a baby, they're super close. So they're alone with the new baby, so I can shower. But doesn't know me well enough to know, like this is just something I would ask. And I just wanna be clear, you are not being dramatic. You are not wrong for being upset. Your friend who probably had good intentions,

like not being receptive to you saying this upset me, like that's probably like the most egregious part of this whole thing, cause she was trying to help. I don't think she was trying to be malicious. And she made a call and it was the wrong call. But so if you said like, I don't like that and that upset me and she's like, well, you're wrong. That's where she's a bad friend.

Cause she was trying to help the baby. I think really, when I think about who would do this to me, it's like, is this someone that I like low key want to cut out anyway? Cause if it was like you and- Let's evaluate the friendship. Say it was you and I was like, Claudia, what on earth are you doing?

Don't ever. Would you be mad? Well, you're my sister. So like it's kind of similar, but I- Even though I eat sugary cereal. You do eat sugary cereal. I wouldn't like be about it. I wouldn't be like, do that again,

but I would a hundred percent forgive you and we would move on because like, I love you and I cherish our relationship and I want to work on things. It's worth salvaging you're saying. Yeah. So evaluate the friendship. Is the friendship worth salvaging? Yeah.

This next one is so crazy. And I wanted to tell you about it before we started recording so we could like gossip and giggle about it. But I think it's better to get your genuine reaction. My husband informed me this week that his best friend, Johnny has been running a snark page for one of the biggest influencers of the moment. Johnny screenshots every single thing this influencer posts on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok,

etc. and picks apart the girl's body, the girl's personality, life, everything. My husband told me that he refers to this as his second full-time job. He has stopped conversations at their boys' night multiple times to update the snark page. He responds to comments. I believe you guys have had stories about this in the past, but I don't know if you have, so please help me out. Johnny has been seriously dating a girl for a few years now,

and she's become one of my best friends. My husband says that Johnny's girlfriend has no idea about this, and my husband and his other friends have even told Johnny that he needs to be done with the snark page because it's really consuming him. Johnny's response was that he, quote, has created a community that he cannot abandon.

Johnny has even told my husband that he will tell his girlfriend he's running errands, but really he just sits in his car needing to update the Reddit page. I feel like she needs to know about this. I mean, I would like to know if my husband spent 75% of his day picking apart another woman online, but is it my place?

I do not want to ruin my husband and Johnny's friendship at this point. My husband can barely be around him due to Johnny being distracted by the Reddit page. If this was your best friend's boyfriend, what would you do? Is there a way I could drop Easter eggs that lead her to this without telling her explicitly, please help?

She needs to know. 1000% because- You just walk on over there and you tell her straight up. You don't need Easter eggs. You don't need to write us note, dear Sam the other night at Karma. At bed. Tell her straight up.

Yeah, this is so crazy. Like one, when I first read it, I assumed it was just like a man influencer. I don't know why. So the fact that it's a man starting a snark page about anyone is so crazy. Like true sign of mental illness, but about a girl, that's like freaky, like serious, like leads to violence.

100%. This is really crazy behavior. And if my friends knew that my husband was doing something like this, that not only is like, you have a job, you have a family, like you have time commitments and you're spending half the day in your car on Reddit, like rotting, that's unacceptable.

But also the implications on your mental health like actually scare me. I would not wanna be living in a house with somebody that does that. I 100% agree. Also they're just dating right now. Like stop her from making like a big mistake. You should 100%, it's not like they are married.

And it's not easy to get back to you by the way. I don't care if he gets back to you. He talks about it with his friends. Like it's not a secret. Right, everybody knows. But seriously, once this episode's over and listen till the end, walk on over there and tell her.

Yeah. You don't need to come up with some high jinx in order for her to know. You know what, we should wait for something bad to happen because this person's like obviously really crazy. Just tell her straight up and maybe she won't matter to her and she won't see it as an issue and now she has all the information.

Maybe she's the only one who could get him to like get to stop and come off his phone and pick up his head up. And yeah. Did you see that? I forget which one it was like New York magazine or New Yorker did a huge article on snark pages and they interviewed anonymously, like 10 or 20 girls who do influencer snark

and they just talked about how it's like, one of the best things that ever happened to them, none of their friends or family know about it, it's just like really good for their health, it was really crazy, you should read it. I did not see it, I will read it. Yeah, so this felt very appropriate because I was just reading, I was actually crazy. You should read it. I did not see it. I will read it. Yeah. So this felt very appropriate because I was just reading,

I was actually watching a TikTok recapping it because I, you know, I wasn't reading the article, but it's really crazy behavior. Yeah. Especially, I mean, from anyone, but especially a man. I know a lot of people like who lurk on pages like that and they like find it enjoyable, very like schadenfreude. So there's different levels, like lurking,

participating, moderating. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. All right, our third and final. Hey Jackson Claude, how you doing? I came out as a lesbian about five years ago. I recently and publicly started posting on my Instagram

about my new relationship with a woman. Before coming out, I did date men and I had one year long relationship with a man, my ex-boyfriend, and he has a podcast that I do not listen to as it's very, you know, for the guys. It's just him and his two buddies, mostly talking about, and he has a podcast that I do not listen to as it's very, you know, for the guys. It's just him and his two buddies, mostly talking about sports.

They had a recent episode titled and discussed how my ex turned me gay. I only found out because a mutual girl we have in common told me to listen to, so shout out to her. They never mentioned my name, but if you know us, it's extremely obvious that they're talking about me. If it was just a joke in passing, I wouldn't be bothered. He's gay too now?

No, no, no. How my ex turned me gay? Yeah, I guess like they just are talking about her on the podcast. But like, do you not see how the pronouns are confusing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's saying like, they're making a joke. It's like, my ex turned me gay, cause she's gay.

Oh, okay, sorry. So she said, if it was just a joke in passing, I wouldn't be as bothered. As I realized, my coming out probably did shake him up quite a bit. We broke up a year and a half before I came out, by the way. The podcast, he goes into detail about our sex life, things I did that should have been rainbow flags,

which is like basically playing college sports and not wearing makeup. My girlfriend says I should just let it go that he's a loser. Rainbow flags, that's funny, you used that term. I cannot help but feel hurt. Our breakup wasn't good, but no one cheated or did anything nefarious.

We have not spoken directly since the breakup, but we occasionally bump into each other at weddings and cordially say, hey, how are you? Should I text him and say, what the fuck, take the podcast down or just let it go? Sincerely, your lesbian listener. I think you got to let it go. This is his story.

This is his life and his experience. He's telling it on his show. Now I hope he has an audience. Otherwise this is just story, this is his life and his experience. He's telling it on his show. Now I hope he has an audience, otherwise this is just like Seth. And by the way, you should find solace in knowing he most likely doesn't. So it's hard to get a podcast to get listened to these days. And it's unfortunate if he's sharing like really private

stuff, but it doesn't sound like he necessarily. She said the sex life. I don't like that, but that's what people do every day on their podcasts. Yeah, it's like the culture. The thing is in order for you to be happy, you have to let this go. Like living in the past and judging up things.

It's not good for you to let, to not let it go. So I wouldn't say anything. I don't need to like reinvigorate the conversations with this guy. But it does feel like Taylor Strucker's ex-husband run into us. Cause that's literally her favorite thing to talk about. But she does it too. No, no, I'm saying. Taylor's ex husband running to us. Cause that's literally her favorite thing to talk about.

But she does it too. No, no, I'm saying the listener is Taylor's ex. Taylor's ex. Taylor's Shrekker would never, I don't think be mad if her husband went on a podcast and started talking about this because she goes on her podcast and talks about her husband. Her former life. Yeah.

Right. So I think the answer for you is to start a podcast and take your power back. No, I wouldn't get in the mud with these actual losers. Like why don't you go be happy? Like it sounds like you told your beautiful relationship Told his story like okay, and then next week there'll be a new episode and that's it Yeah, and that's like I also feel like the hard thing. It's like obviously I'm not gay So I don't know like when you come out it's like so your journey, right? Like it's it's really all about you

But there are other people especially if you've been romantically involved with them, who are a part of it in some small way. And while, you know, it might not be the way that you want it, like they do have every right to like, you know, say what that was like for them, even though it's not about them. And it's like any breakup or any relationship. So I think you just-

Just ignore, by the way. Ignore, yeah. Don't give like, the one thing his podcast- You shouldn't have even listened to it. The one thing his podcast- Just like everyone else. Probably doesn't garner his attention. And so you don't want to give. The one thing his podcast. Just like everyone else. Probably doesn't garner his attention and so you don't wanna give that to him.

Yeah, just move on from it. Yeah. That's all. That's our show you guys. Hope you enjoyed this Partylicious episode. We're back tomorrow with lots of fun things in store. So don't forget to. Trips to the Cape for sure tomorrow.

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