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Good morning, girlies, it's the Toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Yeah, okay. Things we did made it to the latter half of the week, like not a big deal. Yes. Ladder half energy. Happy Thursday to you. Happy Thursdays. It's a beautiful dairy of Thursdays.

It's gorgina vagina plastina, Plasty here in NYC. A nice warm sunny day. Oh, part Jewish. I mean, it's always it's always sunny in Florida. But oh, I actually heard found some goss out this morning that I've been meaning to text you. You have hot goss for me. I do. Let me text it to you. You're not going to believe me. Is it about like people we

know like personally? No, it's about a celebrity. And you want to share it? Like, hold on. Oh, I'm excited. I'm so sorry to start the show like this. No, it's okay. Don't ever apologize for having a hot goss. Look what I just sent you. Oh, Like someone that I know saw him. So yeah, a big celebrity is thinking about moving to Florida. That was it. And then someone saw him looking. And I feel like it could move the needle

for you to move here. It's anyone. 1,000%. 1,000%. I heard he's moving down here for the golf, which actually is a great segue because I've been watching full swing. I heard he's moving down here for the golf, which actually is a great segue because I've been watching full swing. I heard you've been watching full swing

and I so crazy said to Ben, like, how good of a wife am I? Jackie's watching full swing. She says you, you will love it. Let's watch it. And that's me being generous. Like, that's a show about your fucking interests. No.

What did he say? Well, first of all, we're watching Parenthood. I hate it so much and he loves it. Oh my God. Classic. So he thinks I'm just like trying to get him off of... He thinks I'm trying to get him off of Parenthood, which I am, but like I think this is an even better option. And he was like, no, we started it once. You didn't like it.

Okay, gaslight me straight to my fucking face. I've never seen the show. Oh, interesting. Well, the way that they do it is interesting because like every episode follows a different player or two. And like, so we get to know this person in the next episode. It's someone else that we have to meet. But it's a nice way to get to know, like the big names.

I think I'm watching 2022. So like this is all new for me. Like, I don't know who wins the Masters in 2022 and the PGA Tour. And golf has never made sense to me, like in terms of the game itself. The game. Car, birdie, bogey. Oh, I'm familiar. Now I'm understanding the game of golf, but I'm also understanding how the sport works in terms of like game itself, car, birdie, bogey. Oh, I'm familiar. Now I'm understanding the game of golf, but I'm also understanding how the sport works

in terms of like the PGA tour and then the, what are they called? The big, the four- Do they talk about live golf? Yes, so that this season is like when live golf is having their first event, it's like, who's gonna take the money? The questions that they're asking these players

at the press conferences like are crazy. They might as well be like, would you behead someone and drag them through the street? Would you do that? Right. When the live golf drama was happening in real time, it was all my husband spoke about.

So I'm pretty well versed on it and it was really crazy, but Ben was like, fuck it, take the money. Why should everyone be so beholden to PGA and their crazy rules? Whereas there could be other leagues, why can we all play in different leagues? Yeah, but then it's just like, where's the money coming from?

Like you're kind of- Well, of course, of course. Worse washing human rights violations of Saudi Arabia, which is a lot to put on Phil Mickelson, you know? Right, right, Phil Mickelson specifically. And I think that's why this particular Masters was sort of kind of crazy, because Bryson is one of the guys who went to live

and like took the money. So at the time they're like, if people go to live, they will be banned from the PGA tour. Yes. Does that still hold? No. Because the way I feel about live now is like everybody does live.

It's not controversial anymore. No, it was really controversial. But I feel like so many people have endorsed it and it's not like a stain on anyone's record. And so the people who play live can also do the PGA tour. And there's just like more money for everyone. Now. Okay.

Okay. Yeah, no, it's definitely a crazy thing that happened. And the fact is like- No, like PGA just like was the only game in town and like somebody else like decided to like do stuff. And they were being like weenies about it. Except like Masters and US Open are not PGA. No, no, it's all a part of the PGA.

Like PGA is like the whole league. It's like the NBA. No, but they have a tour, PGA tour, where they have like waste management. Every weekend is a different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every night a different town, she follows me around. Yeah, you might be asking too many questions now.

But what are the four biggies called? When you win all four like Rory did, what's the name biggies called? When you win all four like Rory did, what's the name of that thing? What are the four big golf tournaments? No, I know it's US Open, Masters, and two others. Masters, PGA Championship, US Open, and the Open Championship, which is often called the British Open.

Okay, but those four are called, I thought I knew so much. And what are those four are called... I thought I knew so much. And what are those four events called? Not Masters. Majors, those are the majors. Men's Major Golf Championship, the majors. Those are the majors. So I feel like the three majors

that are in PGA Championship, the live players could have played even if they weren't on the PGA Tour. Like they could have still played the Masters, it's its own thing. The Masters isn't a part of PGA? I don't think so. Okay, let me see, wait, hold on.

Let me get back, let me get back to my... Are all four of the major golf championships PGA events, question mark? Great question. Does Chachi Bti ever say that? Great question, not exactly. While all four are a part of the PGA tour schedule, not all of them are run by the PGA tour of America.

So the Masters is run by Augusta National Golf Club, like yeah, we know that. PGA Championship is run by the PGA, US Open is run by the USGA, and the Open is run by the RNA. But they are all a part of the PGA tour. So yes, they are PGA. Oh, okay.

And I know this is frustrating for those of you who know golf, but I want to say like a majority of our listeners don't understand golf. Like we, like laymen, they're like laymen like us. And I feel like all of us starting to understand this together, like it will bring together husbands and wives and that's what we do at the toast. Even though I hate that we're like,

we're meeting them where they are, you know? Of course. I don't see them taking an interest in Molly May's vlogs. In Summer House. Yeah, like actually. My husband loves Bravo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

I take that back. He gets mad when I watch without him. I hate to concede. I do hate to concede, but I really am finding pleasure in the sport of golf. And also, I do live in Florida. And maybe my sons will take it up. And I should know what a bogey is, if that's the case.

1,000%. Like, do I cheer for a bogey is if that's the case. Like do I cheer for a bogey or do I cheer for a birdie? You cheer for a birdie. I know. And you really cheer for a double birdie with them titties out and say, yeah, double birdie. Yeah, for sure. That's what I do.

But it's all great and I'm really enjoying it. And you should definitely watch it. And like, maybe we could sync up so that like, I'm not recapping it and then you're recapping it a month later. Talk to Ben, seriously talk to Ben. I will really enjoying it. And you should definitely watch. And like, maybe we could sync up so that like, I'm not recapping it. And then you're recapping it a month later. Talk to Ben, seriously talk to Ben. I will talk to Ben. So like insane. And even today, like he was like,

I was like, woke up in a really bad mood. I didn't sleep good. And he was like, you want me to work you to work? I was like, you know what? Yeah, I found my two block walk to work becoming longer each day. Like I just can't do it. It's time for me to start working from home.

And so he gets to the door and he forgets something and he's walking back in and I said, fuck it, I'm leaving. And I get in the elevator and I'm like halfway through my walk when I hear Ben sprinting down the street. I'm like, honestly, he's so sweet. Like I left and he still wanted to walk me to work. And he has this like big shopping bag with him. And I'm like, honestly, he's so sweet. Like I left and he still wanted to walk me to work. And he has this like big shopping bag with him. And I'm like, are you going somewhere?

He's like, no, yesterday you told me you didn't have any Spritz cans at your studio. I'm like, oh, so you don't wanna walk me to work. You wanted to be the messenger delivering your Spritz Society cans. Spritz Society, available everywhere. Yeah, they actually are today's lead sponsor. We'll get into it a little bit later.

That's exciting. It's so funny that you have no cans in your huge studio when I am seriously in a box and I have probably 12 boxes of Spritz in here from the years. And that's just your sweeper like nature because you would never stand for what I've put up with. But I have so much Spritz in here

and I need to take a picture of your book. You need a little bit more of my sweeper energy, and I need a little bit more of your, it's gonna be okay energy. Collect tennis energy. No, because I don't wanna start collecting things, but it is okay to have stuff. Yeah, it is.

I feel like you're gonna see that when you have a baby, and so I'm not gonna push you on it. I'm just gonna let nature run its course. Speaking you have a baby, and so I'm not gonna push you on it. I'm just gonna let nature run its course. Speaking of having a baby, I'm going to the doctor. I feel really stupid, because I think, I actually, I don't even know. I just feel like the baby has slipped.

I just feel it. Maybe because I want the baby to have flipped. No, but it's not even that. I just want it. So I feel like if I wanted it, it'll be. That's called manifesting. You manifested it. So I told Dr. Fox, I'm like, I think the baby's flipped.

He's like, oh great, we'll find out your next sonogram. And I said, yeah, about that. I'm not gonna be able to wait that long. Cause I'm like running around town, doing rock Sebastian, doing physical therapy, doing acupuncture. Like I just kind of need to know if it's working cause I can stop if it is. So I'll be going in today.

So tune into tomorrow's episode to find out if Turtey's baby is flipped. And are you feeling kicks in different places? Yes, but I'm not feeling kicks. That's the thing. I'm feeling like sweeping movements. Do you know what I mean? Like I know a kick.

So you're feeling flips. Flips. Is that what it is? I mean, that's sweeping movements. No, and it's like huge like, like waves of movement. Like a tumble. Yeah. And it's not like people are like, well, you're feeling kicks or punches.

I'm like, well, are you feeling kicks or punches? I'm like, well, I'm not feeling either. I'm feeling like there's something like a rodent in my stomach like crawling around. That's what it feels like. Lols. And if I read one more fucking Reddit, I need to stop. But I'm always just like searching,

how would I know if my baby has flipped? Everybody has different experience. Someone was like, I had no idea. And then someone was like, oh my God, I was cooking dinner and I felt like I gave birth. Like, so I can't, there my God, I was cooking dinner and I felt like I gave birth. So I can't, there's such not reliable information out there. Yes, and at a certain point you have to set it all down.

I do, I do. And de-stress. Yeah, I do. I do, that's what I did yesterday. I went to the nail salon for four hours. So did I. I now realize why my whole life, every time I go to a nail salon,

there's like five pregnant women there. What else is there to do? And that's- Everyone's getting their feet rubbed. Hopefully, hoping that they hit that ankle button, that will put them into labor. Literally. Sometimes you're so uncomfortable,

the only thing you can do is get a pedicure. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I just let this woman, I let her take care of me for hours. I kept adding things. So I got a pedicure, and then of course I had to do a leg and a foot rub.

And I fell asleep in the chair. It was amazing. And then I went for an actual manicure. So I got my manicure. And then it just didn't feel like enough. So I had her rub my back. I was there for literally the entire afternoon and had an amazing time.

That's so great. You should go to like a spa. No, I know. But like something about the casual nature of- It's non-committal. It's non-committal. I'm just taking my pants off. Like it's, except I actually saw the craziest thing. This guy comes in with a stroller, like he needed a newborn

and I know that's nice he's taking care. And he's like, I want to get my back rubbed. And I'm like, well, you have a baby with you, like an actual baby, like you can't get your back rubbed. And he was like, yeah, he literally, something only a man could do. He like was moving furniture in the nail salon. He's like, put me in this chair.

I have to give this baby a bottle, but I want my neck and my back rubbed. They like was moving furniture in the nail salon. He's like, put me in this chair. I have to give this baby a bottle, but I want my neck and my back rubbed. They got a step stool for the masseuse. Like they rearranged the entire salon for this man to give his baby a bottle while also getting his neck rubbed for an hour. Like he was sitting in the middle of the salon. I actually really respected it.

And I could see that being Ben as a father cause Ben loves getting his back rubbed, but it's just something like a woman would never do. It's like, oh, well I can't get a massage. I have to feed my baby. Right. Well, take notes, take up space. I was, Jackie, he was taking up a lot of space. Like moving everything around.

We could learn the thing that's true. Yes. Yeah. And he's watching the baby. Mom's got a break. Yeah, no, it was very inspiring. I thought he was going to like leave the baby in the stroller and like hold onto the stroller while he sits in the chair.

That's what I was thinking. That's not the greatest. I like that he did. No, especially because if the baby cries, you're gonna have to get up out of that chair. Yeah, and also you don't have eyes on the baby. No, so he sat in a regular chair, baby was in his arms with a bottle,

and this lady was seriously towering over him on a ladder, rubbing his back. Partialish. It was so smart, yeah. You should have taken a picture for Ben. I meant to tell him, but I didn't want to give him any ideas because like literally I would never see him. He would be at the salon the entire time.

With the baby? Baby sitting? Thumbs up. How many stories did I? Oh, you know what? They're like RBG, for sure RBG, but like came together actually really quickly. So it's the stories, you know?

RBG, random but good. Yeah, yeah, you knew that. We watched Summer House, right? We did watch Summer House, which I look forward to recapping. Me too, I actually have some very strong feelings about two characters in particular. Who?

Guess. What happened? Jesse Solomon? Yes. Always. He elicits a lot of strong feelings from me. Like really, really positive, like, Mencii warm, like, I love this man. And then really, really positive, like men she warmed, like I love this man.

And then really, really negative, like love bombing, toxic male, like grow up. Yeah, he's my number one for sure. Okay, number two, Sierra. Yes. I just know my coach. You do, and we also talked about Summer House, like when we were watching it, we were texting.

Yeah, okay, so that's why. But yeah, no, you know, you know. No, but we didn also talked about summer house, like a little rough watching it. We were texting. Yeah. Okay. So that's why. Um, but yeah, no, you knew, you know, no, but we didn't talk about Jesse. So that, you knew, you knew. Yeah, it's true. Well, I look forward to recapping that same. And I think we can get into the stories, right?

Me too. I think it's totally my clock. I can see my clock now. Oh, we're staying on pace today. Except the thing is, if I hadn't seen my clock, I would have assumed that we've been really short in the pre-Fast Five banter. And I would have kept going.

And then we would have had like a really party long banter. And that's how you guys have been getting those Nalafis because I've been flying blind here. No, and I love the Nalafis, but I have to say, like I know my body and like at some point I crap out and like I want to be able to, like how I couldn't finish your toasters. Like I want to be able to finish the episode.

So you having your clock, just keeping us, you know, we're not taking short episodes. No, get used to some nerafis. Yesterday was an hour 20. Regular. You're not gonna see those types of numbers up there again. It's just hard for me to like sit in one position and like be normal for that long. So I just wanna, I'm gonna get through everything.

I'm not rushing, but just, you know, I can't be making a whole day of it. I understand, I understand. Neroffy. Regular. Neroff. Regular, but longer than average. Longer than the others.

Right. Nice, regular, but longer than average episode. What is that? Oh, God. Nice, regular. I'll write it down. Hold on. Oh, no, it's one. Neroff. Nice, regular one. Maybe. Brainstruck and glitch. I'll write it down, hold on. Oh no, it's one, Neurof, nice regular one. My brain is broken. Regular one, longer than the average. Nerlata. Nerlata, that sounds like a medication.

Which by the way, this show. Ner-tech, O-T-D. This show is a medication. So Nerlata. For your board. I got a heartache medication. Okay, sorry, it's actually Neralta, which really sounds like a medication.

Claudia, we are giving you a dose of Nerlata today. It cures depression, anxiety, boredom, anger. And we don't have the side effects that all these other drugs have like suicidal thoughts. Like no, joy. Joy, like period. Period. Okay, well, let's get into the NerlLATA and give you a dose of NERLATA this morning in the Fast Five Stories that you do need to know.

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Our first. I'm so glad. I'm so glad you brought that up. I'm so glad that we are in agreement. It's so good to be agreeable. Yeah. Yeah. Our first story, some hosting news.

Nate Bargaitzi will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian, Nate Bargaitzi, will host the 2025 Emmys. So, some hosting news, Nate Bargaitse will host

2025 Emmys. So celebrated standup comedian Nate Bargaitse is set to host the Emmys. Variety has learned the telecast will air live from the Peacock Theater in L.A. on Sunday, September 14th. Always confusing that the Emmys, which are part of the got variety, like take place at a completely different time than the rest of the award shows. You know, like they're I don't know if I ever like was putting that together no they're literally in the summer it's so weird but I didn't know that September 14th on CBS and streaming live on Paramount plus Nate Bargatzee thoughts I think it's oh my god I think it's a good selection I think it the thing is I know Nate Barcazi like culturally, like I've never heard this

man stand up. I think, but he comes from like, he's like the elk of like a digital podcaster. He got his real cult like fan base from the internet. So podcast comedian, comedian, excuse me. But he like hangs out with all those podcast comedians. I loop him in with them and I'm always saying- I loop him in with Shane Gillis. Yeah, and I'm always saying like, you should choose those guys,

and it's mostly guys for these gigs. So I really like this, even though like you, I never heard a joke of his. Like his reputation precedes him. I do know that like a fun fact about him is that he's a bit of a clean comic. Like he doesn't even curse. So that will be interesting

because I don't think that's usually the elk of hosts. Even though I think most recently like Conan, who's not clean, but a little bit more family friendly. I feel like that really didn't help him. What did he host? The Oscars, right? Right. But I think Nate can do it.

Like every time Nate does something and gets selected for like something big, people are so excited about it. Like he hosted SNL and I think he's do it. Like every time Nate does something and gets selected for like something big, people are so excited about it. Like he hosted SNL and I think he's about to host again. His fans are freaking, like everyone loves it. So I think this is actually a very good choice. And it's out of the Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy category. Yeah, he had Nate Bargatis Nashville Christmas on CBS.

Oh, cute. Which sounds like a good idea. I think it went well from the Grand Ole Opry. That sounds fun. Yeah, I think it went well from the Grand Ole Opry. That sounds fun. Yeah, I think this is a really good choice and a safe bet and hopefully opens the door for more funny comedians to host award shows. Agreed and funny comedians who are the elk of,

you know, internet folk, even though he's not really internetty. The elk of renegades. Yes, I loop him in with that group of man. Group of man. Like he might be in the group chat that Andrew Schultz was telling us about, you know, he renegades. Yes, I loop him in with that group of man. Group of man. Like he might be in the group chat that Andrew Schultz was telling us about, you know? Yeah, he might be, but like, who is this guy?

Let's get real. I know, does he even have a podcast? Like, does he? Like, I'm going to look, like I've heard his name before, but why hasn't his comedy reached me whatsoever? Oh yeah, he does have a podcast. It's called Nate Land. They released an episode one day ago.

So, um. Okay, I've not heard of it. Me neither. I don't think his podcast is actually very big. Yeah, but it's always fun to have a podcast, like if you're a funny person and it's low lift if you have stuff to say. Agreed.

No, I think that he's digital. Like. I like saying his name, Nate Barghese. Barghese. And it looks like something I wouldn't be able to pronounce, but like I crush it. We think. Like if I hadn't heard it, no,

I've like heard people say his name, cause I don't even know how I would pronounce that. Like Barghese. His standup specials are really popular. That's what I think catapulted him to like another tier. His last couple of ones have all been on Netflix and they've been like enormously popular. Great.

And I think you would love it. Congrats, Nate. Congrats, Nate, you did it. Congrats, grads. Even though this is like a job that I think people like, you obviously wanna book it. It's a huge opportunity, but when it comes to like actually doing it,

it's like, ugh. Yeah, but it's a major step. Huge, huge, huge. Maybe it'll be so big, we'll find out who he is, you know? See his chops. I don't typically watch the Emmys, just cause during the summer, I just am not turning on the avoidations.

No, it depends where I am, like physically, emotionally, mentally, in that day. And I don't watch a lot of the television, like I don't really watch a lot of this stuff. I feel like the Emmys just, you should come and go. When, give me a date. Let me see like where I'm gonna be in my life. Oh, you said summer.

That's still summer for six more days. Okay, September 14th, like it's after Labor Day. We're all back at work. Like I might watch it. I thought you were saying like June. Oh, you see, you think summer is June. You said early summer. I didn't say early.

And then it also, it also reminded me that we spent last summer watching the Olympics and how much fun that was and that we're not gonna have that this summer. Not to be like negative, just it reminded me. We'll have something. Yeah, we need to make something our thing this summer. Yeah, we'll probably watch a lot of TV

cause we'll just be like unemployed. Literally maternity breaks. Do you watch a lot of TV on maternity leave? Yes, you'll get in, like you have to get, find like your show, like your postpartum show. Well, I'm really struggling finding like a show now, so I'm worried. It's better postpartum because like you need something

like more mindless. Like right now you're really looking for great content, but then like, I mean, it's time to watch Molly May and Tommy on Love Island. Oh, wow. That was like the best experience for me. Like you need something with a lot of hours. Oh, you're gonna log a lot of hours, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? A little more TV news because Jimmy Fallon and Bose are teaming up to find the next big idea on a new reality show. So Jimmy Fallon and Real House as a Beverly Hills star, Bose St. John are coming together to find the next big idea on the new reality competition series on Brand with Jimmy Fallon.

So NBC announced that the new show has been officially greenlit and will follow Jimmy as he starts a premiere marketing agency and fills it with the most creative, clear and competitive go-getters he can find. He said, I love branding, I love marketing, I love the world of advertising, and I think there are a lot of people out there who do as well. This show lets the audience and our contestants

get a peek behind the curtain of how campaigns for some of the biggest brands come together and what goes into making them. It's exciting. Wait, that actually sounds like a really cute concept for a show. It's giving like House of DVF or whatever. But like House of Jimmy? No, but I guess they're gonna be working for a show. It's giving like house of DVF or whatever. But like house of Jimmy.

No, but I guess they're gonna be working for different brands. Like, they get a campaign for, you know. I like this idea for a show. I don't understand how Jimmy Fallon like applies here aside from the fact that he has a love of marketing. Yeah, who doesn't have a love of marketing? Like, yeah, I guess, I get, well,

Bo's is like a seasoned business woman. So she's gonna be the agency's chief marketing officer. She will mentor the creatives and evaluate their work, which is great because she has an extensive history as a CMO. She's Tim Gunn. Yeah. She's Tim Gunn, right?

Like an impartial. And she's TV Gold. No, I love her getting opportunities, like obsessed to give her all the roles. But in terms of like the framework of the show, like I see her very much as like a neutral sort of, kind of almost like, no, well, RuPaul's like very much as like a neutral sort of, kind of almost like, no, well, RuPaul's like a judge, like a Tim Gunn.

Yeah, the mentor. Yeah, the mentor, very Patricia Ulltchel. Patricia Ulltchel. Yeah. I hear you and I concur, like what Jimmy's role on the show is and his connection to marketing, but maybe it's just a gig, you know?

Yeah, each episode will see the agency creatives work with a major brand in need of big ideas for a massive high priority campaign from creating earworn jingles and unbelievable activations to producing the most quotable commercials and much-needed merchandise. Yeah, this sounds like a good joke. It does sound exactly like Project Runway.

Or like a little bit like The Apprentice. Are the people- Yeah, because when I heard jingle, I'm thinking of Joe Splat. Are the contestants like just like marketers? I think they are professional marketers. Olivia should apply. By the way, Olivia should apply, Girlbostown should apply.

Of course, but I feel like she wouldn't be a contestant. Like- Why? Like she would crush, she would win. Unless all of the contestants like are the elk of Girlboss. Right, right, right. Are they entry level? Who are these people? People with a passion for marketing

who maybe haven't had their big break yet. Hmm, that's very niche. No, but I'm glad because everybody's just marketing. It's never been the sexiest job. They've never had their moment. And people who do marketing, maybe your parents don't understand what you're doing.

Like now they can watch the show and see the talent. It's gonna be for girls who work in marketing, what nobody wants this was for girls who podcast. It's true. And it's gonna be like the next Mad Men, I think. Wow, okay. Really putting a spotlight on. What platform?

The import of the advertising agency. Peacock? Well, it's NBC, agency. Peacock? Well, it's NBC, so. Peacock, probably. NBC. Oh, oh, wow, like a big cable show. Right, some of the brands that will be featured

include Captain Morgan, Duncan, KitchenAid, Marshalls, Pillsbury. No, so let me tell you, the show itself- Honestly, if I didn't do this job, I would be a great contestant for this show. No, and the show itself is kind of brilliant because. I don't agree with you. Yeah, actually I don't agree with that.

You don't think I would be so good on the show? I have so many great ideas for marketing and jingles. Like I just, I'm always. Really? I don't know that about you. Like, what are you talking about? What do you mean? Like I have ideas up the wazoo.

Yeah, about like campaigns? For sure. I could direct you towards campaigns. Okay. Well you haven't in the past. Like why would I think that about you? Well because like we don't do campaigns. Well maybe we should.

But like in my previous jobs that I held, like I was a marketer, a social media marketer. A social media marketer, yeah. You know who else would be good for this? Okay, fine, you don't think I would be good for it. Just say it. I don't think you would be bad at it. I think if you were put in this show,

you would rise to the occasion. But I wouldn't think of you as like, oh, Jackie has to go on the show. No, but KitchenAid is coming, and we need to create a campaign and images and a commercial, and who's that gonna be the, like I would be amazing. Yeah, because you just chose the brand that like you use and align with the most like Jackie Duncan.

I can do Duncan. I love their breakfast wraps. I would put a spotlight on the breakfast wraps because I think they're underrated. And I would have a huge revenue stream for them. I would do a campaign to bring back their chocolate chip cookies. Oh, for damn sure.

You know who else would be good for the show, but feel free to disagree with me again, my husband. Okay, your husband should apply for this show. He would be the perfect type of person for this show. So when I say that, when I think of a type of person, yes, your husband would be good. I don't think of you, I think of your husband, but if you were cast on the show, I don't think you would be the first out.

I think you would make it quite far. Thank you. Yeah, maybe I wouldn't be the winner, but I think I could- You would rise to the occasion. I could hold my own here. Your husband literally should apply for this show. It's so him. He has so many great ideas.

And Jing, like he just like, he's the ideas guy. He's jingling all the way home. Jingle all the way. I love that. Well, I would all the way. I love that. Well, I would watch the show. I kind of would too. It is giving the big shot with Bethany. Agreed.

It is. Like people just like, you're not winning. Like America's Next Top Model, you're gonna become famous. Like if you win this competition, like all you get is a job. Yeah, that's true. But like it does really,

the template is more so like The Apprentice, which is also what Bethany's was. And like that was the biggest show on TV. And it yeah, that's true. But like it does really, the template is more so like the apprentice, which is also what Bethany's was. And like that was the biggest show on TV people like, and it was a really good show. So I think there's, we need more of that. Agreed. Agreed. And bringing bows in is sort of icing on the cake. Inspired. Yeah. So, oh, I'm sorry. And what I was going to say is maybe that will be our show of the summer. I'm so down. The show in and of itself is quite brilliant

because them having brands come on every episode, the brand has to pay to be featured as the lead, whatever. So the show in and of itself is successful before it even, if nobody watches it, the show is successful. Yeah, but also the person who wins could maybe like get money to like start their own shop. Agency, yeah. And then whoever watched the show, like if I saw, if the person who won like was amazing get money to like start their own shop. Agency, yeah. And then whoever watched the show,

like if I saw, if the person who won like was amazing and we ever needed a marketing agency, like I would reach out to that person. Yes, you know what? Cause I often wonder, I only ever watched Celebrity Apprentice, obviously, cause I'm normal. I mean, I only watched the season with Joan Rivers,

cause I'm also normal. But I know that there was a show with regular, actual successful business people. Julianna's husband. And Bill Rancic, Bill Rancic, Julianne Rancic's husband is like one of the most well-known winners and he went on to do, you know, they're very successful.

But like at what? Business, but what kind of business you win? Right, that's what the show should be called, but on brand is good. Yeah, on brand is on brand. But it should have been, what kind of business y'all in? Marketing. Okay.

Sure. I like this show a lot. And I probably would have clouted on it before they said Bose was involved. Yeah, if it was just Jimmy Fallon. But now I'm like, it's amazing. Yeah, agreed. It should have been Don Draper.

1000% Jon Hamm should host it. I feel like he's showing up for everything these days. I agree. And he's so not Don Draper. He's such a goofball. No, he's showing up for everything these days. Like he's kind of giving like Don Draper. He's such a goofball. No, he's giving like a little over exposed. He's doing too much. But he's really goofy and proud.

But when you're Don Draper, like he's ruining the mystique of Don Draper. I know he's like doing too many projects, like Landman, that Apple TV show. And he's also like the Reverend from Kimmy Schmidt. Yeah, he's just like doing too much. I feel like maybe he has like a, like he lives an expensive life, you know?

Like he just needs to keep working. Maybe he has like a lot of kids or something. Yeah, he's got expensive hobbies. Correct, maybe collects Birkin bags. Maybe. Our next story, Hailey Seinfeld is opening up about why she made the difficult decision to take a break from music.

I know this is what everyone wants to hear. Just to be clear, Hailey Steinfeld. Hailey Steinfeld, yeah. She's not related to Jerry. Drop the T. Okay. Hailey is dipping her toes back into the music world and opening up about why she left in the first place.

And left us seriously gagged wanting more. Yeah. She stars in the upcoming action thriller Sinners and she also sang a song for its soundtrack called Dangerous and it marks her first release since 2023 and she's excited about it to say the least. She said, I had taken a break from music, which was a very difficult decision to make, but I wanted to focus on my acting and I was happy to be doing that. It goes without saying, but music is a love of mine and a huge passion and something that has played a very strong role in my life in many more ways than one.

And having had the opportunity to make music through the years of my own is something I will never take for granted. Yeah, like she is the definition of a multi-hyphenate. She's like so good at everything that she just had to choose one and she chose acting, which I understand, but like she was an amazing pop star. She was well on her way to becoming huge.

She was opening now, obviously opening for Katy Perry doesn't mean as much now as it was once did, but on the Prism World Tour, like it was huge. Or maybe it was Wonder, no, it was Prism. And like she was global. She was really on her way. Like when you think of how short lived her music career was, but how many hits she had,

like it's actually really impressive. Yeah, definitely. So, but she chose acting. She must've liked it like a little bit more and she's great at it too. Yeah, and she's been acting since she was eight, true grit. That's her thing, yeah. She came on the scene being like

that young swirly at the Oscars. Right, and if she was being a pop star, like maybe the day that she met Josh Allen in her pop star parallel life, like she would have been out of town that day and not met Josh Allen. So I would say like all of her decisions have been the right ones

because they led her to this place in her life. It's the butterfly effect. Like if you had continued being a pop star, like what would we make of Josh Allen? Josh Allen might be elsewhere and not with Haley. Maybe she'd be the next. Josh Allen could be dead. Maybe she'd be the next Sabrina, but then she's dating Barry Kiyogen.

It's not the same thing. No, it's not. So close. I think she's made the right decision for Haley self, even though like we suffer. We suffered at the time, especially because I think it's you think is Hailey Steinfeld's best song? I love May. Okay, the song Love Myself by Hailey Steinfeld is one of the best pop songs of the last century,

but just don't listen to the lyrics too close because you'll realize it's a song about masturbation. Yeah, but it's double entendre, so like on the surface, it's just about loving yourself. Okay, she has so many ready? I didn't know that I was starving till I tasted you. Okay. In capital letters. Oh, that's a really good.

Let me go with a less so. I mean, like I know it, but it's not coming to mind. Oh, classic. Yeah. In the ways I couldn't. Okay. Love myself. Oh, classic, yeah. In the ways I couldn't. Okay, love myself. Oh, Jackie. Most girls are smart and strong and beautiful. Coast with Anderson Paak, that's the new one.

Interesting, and no, and dangerous from Sinners. Got it, got it. Rock bottom. All right, now we're getting to songs I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but. Don't forget Pitch Perfect.

No, something, a discography she can and should be proud of. Well, just Pitch Perfect was like a perfect blend of her two loves. Passion. A blockbuster hit. And dancing and singing. And singing. So maybe the lesson here is we need a pitch perfect four.

Maybe lesson here is trust Hailey. Trust Hailey, I agree. And I do trust Hailey. I'm not even mad at her, like in the way that like people are mad at Rihanna for choosing makeup over music. Yeah. I'm just a sort of like sad for myself.

Yeah, same. But the girlies have stepped it up in her absence. Oh my God, we are fed. We are fine. We are fine. We're fine. So as long as Haley's happy, I'm happy. And I want her to know when she does wanna come back in any capacity, I'm sad, I'm ready, I will support.

Look, dangerous from the new action thriller Sinners. That's also a great way to blend your two loves. Except roles where they let you write original music for the soundtrack. I love that. She should be in Hunger Games. The Hunger Games soundtrack is always like a big thing.

Yeah. You see the new Hunger Games? No, but it's so true. You and I will be safe and sound. What about, are you, are you? Oh, are you? Come into the tree. The tree.

They strung a bum way. And then Olivia Rodrigo just had a big song. Strange things have happened. That is so creepy. No stranger would it be. That song was a cultural reset. That song was on par with. Uh huh. I got a ticket for the long way round.

Nobody was more influenced. Too bad I was skewed for the way you were. I got a ticket for the long way round. Nobody was more influenced. Too bad I was skewed for the way you were. I got a ticket for the long way round. Nobody was more influenced. Too bad I was skewed for the way you were.

I got a ticket for the long way round. Nobody was more influenced. Too bad I was skewed for the way you were. I got a ticket for the long way round. Nobody was more influenced. Too bad I was skewed for the way you were. I got a ticket for the long way round. Nobody was more influenced. Nobody was more influenced by that than us. Like, oh my God, we were slapping those cups

all fucking day long. And the fun thing was like, we already knew the cup melody. Cause if you went to camp, you knew that cup little jingle, but everybody thought it was like original to- Anik Hendrik. No, no, bitch. We were doing that at camp. Like everybody knew reg solo cop, flip it over.

Like, please. With the little, are you, are you. Two, three, showing up the man. I'm crying here, I don't know why. Strange things have happened. No, it's so fucking good. Honestly, DJ Earworm could never. Would never, I dare him actually.

I just lost all my stories from the banging. That's good. From the banging on the iPad. No, I found it, it's Hailey Seinfeld, Queenie-lish. Queenie-lish. She'll be my Queenie of the week. Do you think they're able to originate like who came up with that cup beat thing?

No. Do they have to pay someone? No, that's like. Folklore. Folklore. And not the Taylor Swift dance, I mean the original definition of the word. Yeah, yeah.

Well, actually, I don't know if you saw the girl who invented the Apple dance. So I guess she copyrighted her dance, which she should. Okay. And Charlie XDS is doing something with Fortnite and Fortnite was working with her to license the dance and they didn't come to an agreement or whatever and then they just used the dance.

So she's suing them now. Interesting. That's nice if she's gonna get paid by Fortnite, but what does it mean for the regular person? Do you know what I mean? So if you wanna do the dance on TikTok and it's copyrighted, what does that mean? So regular person? Do you know what I mean? Like, so if you wanna do the dance on TikTok, like, and it's copyrighted, what does that mean? So I happen to see her all over my TikTok

and she's very like, she has her armpits grown out, like she's very hippie. So she's not suing any individual, like that's not her. But then like people found out she's like low key really rich, her family has like this huge house in Hawaii, but she's like all about, like she's kind of like a communist, you know, like a, and everybody's, she's like taking a really rich. Her family has like this huge house in Hawaii, but she's like all about, like she's kind of like a communist, you know, like a. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And everybody's, she's like taking a vlog, like going to Hawaii. And people are like, wait, why are you in Hawaii? Cause you know, you're not supposed to visit Hawaii. If you're not from Hawaii, it's like bad. Well, she's like, well, me and my family have a house here. So like, we're not visiting, you know? So we're from here, right?

Right. And then they were like, wait, your family has a house here. And then people found out she's like really rich. Damn. Excuse me. Which makes sense as to why she out she's like really rich. Damn. Excuse me. Which makes sense as to why she was able to like secure legal. Lawyer up.

Lawyer up copyright sue Fortnite. But she's always, remember when they nominated her for a VMA and didn't invite her. And she's like always making news. She's like, she demands respect for creating this dance. And I actually really respect it. By the way, like, no, I don't know any of these things. And don't.

We talked about it on the toast. Yes, we did. People make dances every day on the talk. Yes, we did make dances every day on the talk. Yes. But hers went super viral and she got nominated for a VMA her dance. It was like best dance. They came up with like some category and they didn't even invite her. Well, I saw Kylie learning it at Coachella. Did you see that? She's so funny. Of course I did. She almost flushed her titties by Gabrielle and Alex Cosani, fashion girlies. I know Gabrielle. Oh, I know Alex.

Don't push me. Of course, I know Gabrielle, of course, as it pertains to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills of it all. Because she looks like Amelia? Well, they say Amelia actually looks like Gabrielle and that like Amelia copies everything Gabrielle does. But then Amelia and Gabrielle just did a campaign together.

It was kind of like a, you know, it was, I forget what it was for, but it was very much like, you know, calling off the I forget what it was for, but it was very much like, you know, calling off the dogs. Like we are good. Well, is it one of those campaigns where they have their heads to heads and they look like that was Fendi that did that they did with Norris Smith too.

They look like twins. They look like twins. Yeah. They are finding like doppelgangers, but it's just hard because everyone looks alike these days. No. And especially like if you've been following the Camelia Gray wasn't born this way, like she made herself look like. Yeah. Gabrie like. Yeah.

Gabrielle. Yeah, Gabrielle. I like saying that too. I think Gabrielle should date Nate Bargaitse. So she could be Gabrielle Bargaitse. I think that Nate Bargaitse like has a family. Cool, cool. So maybe like his son, if he's grown.

Yeah, I think his son is like three. Cool, cool, cool. So you're shipping her with a three year old. I said if he's grown. Go, go, go. Are you ready for our fourth story? No, I don't think that I am, right? I guess not. Is it our fourth story that's brought to you by Purely Elizabeth? Okay, proud moment. Like I was in the grocery store and with Ben and he needed granola and we went to the aisle where the granola is and they had Purely Elizabeth. I'm like, oh, this is a toast pun, so you should try it. And he's like so against trying stuff.

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You're welcome. Our next story, Michelle Trachtenberg's official cause of death has been revealed after she died at the age of 39. So the New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner confirmed to People Magazine on Wednesday that the actress's sudden death was a result of complications of diabetes mellitus. The manner of death was ruled as natural. The spokesperson said the amended determination was made following review of toxicology testing results.

According to the spokesperson, toxicology testing can be done without an autopsy. So I remember like when this happened, it happened the same time like around Jean Hackman and they were both like so suspicious and so sad and so weird. Um, so for us to have gotten clarity on both of those things, they're both so sad. Like she just was what a 35 year old girl who dies of natural causes. Like that's not how the world is supposed to work. Right.

Right. To die suddenly. When you're 39. Right. Really, really sad. I don't know what diabetes mellitus is. So me neither. I don't know how that differentiates, but just terrible. No, seriously. like uncool. Yeah.

I'm wishing like her family well. She was really so young and so beautiful. Yeah, so talented. And like so ingrained in- Culture and everything that she did. Especially for people our age. Yes, she did not show up for work. When she showed up for work, she showed up for work.

Yeah, and just everything that she did became iconic because she was in it. Maybe Ice Princess was a bad movie. Anyone ever consider that? But it wasn't because of Michelle. And Kim Cattrall. And Harriet the Spy. And Juliet.

Harriet the Spy. What's my girl's name? Georgina. Juliet. Oh, Juliet Huff. No, Hayden Pettitier. But she's Juliet from Nashville. Juliet in Nashville, yeah. Hence the confusion. Yeah, Juliet Huff. No, Hayden Pettitier. But she's Juliet from Nashville. Juliet in Nashville, yeah.

Hence the confusion. Yeah, of course Georgina. And the jumping shrimp. The little jumping shrimp, yes. Ice Princess is the best fucking movie. It is, okay, okay. So that passes muster. Yeah, yeah, no.

But Harriet the Spy, was she worth her salt? No, Michelle. She was a terrible spy. Michelle made her great. Georgina, nobody has ever acted better. They should study her in acting school. It's true. So it's just a really sad, sad story,

especially for millennial swirlies. Yeah. Our fifth and final story will lead into our TV recap. I absolutely love that. If that sounds good to you because- So it sounds like two birds, one stone. Two birds, one turd. Two birds.

Paige's Sorbo is doubling down on her claims that Craig was texting other women during their relationship. Oh, oh my God, wait, I didn't see this. Yes, so she doubled down on the claims that he was texting other women because we saw a preview for the end of the season. We haven't watched this yet where he's not defending the people who are calling her a cheater in their breakup.

And she said on the show that we haven't seen yet, she said, you're gonna let people say that I'm a cheater? I caught you texting two bitches in the course of our relationship. So of course that sent the world into a frenzy and we're just sort of waiting to see what that was. But she, and of course he maintains that like, he never stepped out.

So now that she's talking, on what platform? So she gave an interview to Vulture. And she said, as part of the interview, she said, I don't know, honestly, I don't know if it was platonic or anything more, but there were multiple times in our relationship where I gave him so much grace. Like, should I have broken up with him a year and a half ago

when I saw him texting hearts to a girl? Probably, but again, I loved him and I wanted to marry him Okay, so this is I need more contacts like I'm sorry Say your name to a girl. No Ben. You're sending hearts to a girl go to jail like seriously go to jail Um, I need to see the guy. I need to know more. I need to see the girl. Who's the girl? Yeah, I need to know more but like yike, but let. Who's the girl? Yeah, I need to know more. What does she look like? But let me say this, Paige, that does not look good. Yikes. Yeah, no, what does she look like, first of all? Like, is she single?

Because maybe- Is she threatening? Like, you know what I mean? There are girls that are threats and then there are girls that are just- Like your aunt. Ladies. Was it your aunt? Like you.

Yeah, yeah. Did he send you a heart? Oh my God, imagine she's talking about me. Yeah, you're like an old married lady. Like, right, right. Like am I, am I harmful? Do I pose a threat? Yeah.

So we're going to need more information. I hope we're going to get more information when that clip does air, but we are learning a lot about their relationship in summer house, which aired last night more. The wheels are coming off. Like I'm sure everybody around her who she's like actually like opening up to like Sierra,

like the breakup was the least shocking thing ever. Like to us it was, but it's really interesting. And it was like sad to hear her say that like so much of like public fallout and public perception like stops her from making choices. And like, she's just afraid of what people will say, which is like the worst thing when you feel like you can't make the best decision for your own life which is like the worst thing when you feel like you can't make the best decision

for your own life because of like the fans. Yeah, I definitely think that might have delayed the breakup. Yeah. And I think that happens a lot of times with couples, like especially people from the bachelor where like so many people are invested in your relationship and like you almost don't wanna let them down.

But I also think there's like something empowering when so many people are rooting for you. Like it might, it's not that you don't wanna let them down. That's one thing, but another where you start to like see yourself through their eyes and you're like, no, it is great. Like we are Craig and Paige. Like, and I feel like it might give the relationship

a little bit of longer legs, but in a nice way. Like, because yeah, they're like championing you. You feel championed. Yeah. To be loved, to be, it was always good. If everyone was telling your a relationship was shit, the moment you realize it's shit, you're like, get me out of here.

And I could really sense the anxiety that Paige was having in the bed scrolling and then when she moved beds. And I'm glad that she opened up to Sierra. But I was like, and this is what I was talking about at the beginning of the show. I think that Sierra starting to cry, before Paige even cried,

just being like, I feel like you're really anxious. And then she kind of took on Paige's emotions the entire episode. Yeah, even with Emeril. Yes, yes, like Paige was mad at Emeril and then Sierra goes outside and curses him out as if she's the one who was kept up all night and she wasn't.

No, and she wasn't, cause he's had sex all season and it's never been an issue unless it has been and we just didn't see, but like it seems like in their room they don't hear Emeril and then the room that- They're upstairs, he's downstairs seems like in their room, they don't hear Emeril. And then the room that- They're upstairs, he's downstairs. The room that Paige went to, she heard Emeril. Right, she was in Gabby's room.

Oh yeah, he's downstairs, he's in off the kitchen. Right, so I felt like her behavior this episode was very strange, only as it pertained to Paige. I feel like Paige is going through a lot, and I could sense that from her. She was almost giving me anxiety, with her scrolling, and I'm like,

get off your phone. And then like in real keeping her up, like I understand why she was so mad. Like. And also I had to say, like after a long day of day drinking, like there's actually no, and you have, you're having anxiety in your life already.

And then it's heightened by the drinking and you can't sleep because of the, I like, I could feel that. It's a recipe for hell. Those are the worst hours. 1000%. So while I did feel like the only person who had like a legitimate gripe with Emeril was Paige,

I felt like overall- They all do though. No, but he's not being like a good- I know, I feel conflicted. Like he's not being a good housemate or whatever, but like when I think about the show, like I love this cast. They lay in bed all day. not being a good housemate or whatever, but when I think about the show, I love this cast, they lay in bed all day.

Someone's gotta go out, be young, bring girls home. I agree, he's going out, that's what they need to do. What he's doing is not contributing to the show whatsoever. We don't even see the girls he's bringing home. We don't even hear from them. He's literally a border renting a room, and his escapades contribute nothing to the show. And they also take away from the show

because now, before when he came in, there's a ton of single girls in the house. Maybe some of them would start talking to you. But when you act like this, it's very unattractive. They are literally like, go get tested. Nobody's gonna wanna get with him. And he's taking away from the show. And he is being a bad roommate.

And it is weird to have all these strangers coming in and out of the house in the middle of the night. You don't know these people. Like I think it needed to be said, but like Sierra saying it that day because of how Paige felt, like it was just, you know, it seemed like it was for Paige,

but I think in general it needed to be said. I feel that way as a viewer. This isn't a brothel. Yeah, I feel like when he got, he's like, hasn't been a part of any drama, right? So this is like his first, and it's a small conversation. And his response saying that like, I was undocumented for so many years,

and so I'm now gonna like live loud. I actually think his story about being undocumented is so crazy and really interesting. And I'm not clowning on that at all, but like to bring it up, like in a fight, like that's your excuse. Like you're living it loud because I don't know. You're just getting it in like just stop.

Just stop. Yeah, I definitely, I know. So how awkward is that? Like, I mean, maybe it's less awkward for it to be told. It's a conversation ender. Well, he said it in his confessional. Oh, okay. I believe.

No, but how awkward is it to be like, for someone to sit you down and be like, you're a slut and it's really like incommunicant to the house dynamic. Like I think it would be harder for a girl to hear that. Like if a girl was shamed for bringing people home, like I would seriously crawl into a hole in that. And he's just, so I felt like a little embarrassed for him,

but I think he should be a little embarrassed. But he said, he's like, I'll stop. Like he, I felt like a little embarrassed for him, but I think he should be a little embarrassed. But he said, he's like, I'll stop. Like he, I felt bad for him. Like, I don't know. I wasn't like hating on him as much as everybody else. No, I hate what he's doing, but like the fact that we have to talk about it, like my cheeks are clenched.

When Jesse was like maybe in a way game once in a while, like he's so funny. When Wes and Kyle got home at 530, which like I can't even talk about for the 42 year old. And they had the five month pregnant woman lugging herself downstairs to open the door for them. Like I actually wanted to throw up. Yeah.

Wes is by the way. What's with that door? Well, that's what happens in the Hamptons. It happens with ours too with the heat. It expands the wood and then it doesn't fit in the door frame. Oh, it's true. Yes, I forgot about that. Yeah, that's just like a funny Hamptons thing. West is really having as good of a season as he can have

considering he was like the weenie of the year. Slop. I feel like he's doing all the right things. Agreed. And I like for the house. Oh, and to be clear, him coming home at 5.30, like love that for you. I'm talking about Kyle leaving.

Of course, of course, but like, he Of course, but he's a value add, no matter how you wanna slice it. Completely agree. I see him all over my, I don't follow him on Instagram, but he's in Matt James' Passover Seder from Kickball Friends. He's with Breonna Lepagli.

He's doing- He's a great reality star. He's a value add to the show. Even in his confessionals, he always has funny stuff to say. I like his friendship with Jesse. He's so supportive of to the show. And even in his confessionals, he always says funny stuff to say, I like his friendship with Jesse. He's so supportive of him. And the cancer moment when they went to the lodge

and they gave back and that was so beautiful. And that's when I just wanna wrap Jesse in a hug. He's such a king. I know, I have a hard time holding space for his dual personalities. He is P. John Mensch, bring him home to your mother. So sweet, been through so much, gives back to the community. He loves to sing, he's releasing music.

I don't know if you know. Oh, I saw he's releasing music. There's so many cute little things about him. But seriously, I fucking hate this man. When he got, first of all, him being like you're flirting with Wes, I'm sorry, I wasn't there, but I know she wasn't. I know she wasn't.

I know she wasn't, she's obsessed with Jesse. Like, I'm sorry, I wasn't there, but I know she wasn't. Like, I know she wasn't. She's obsessed with Jesse. And she has said this a million times, like, I'm a one guy growl. Like, she's obsessed with Jesse. Like, she's in a house. I just don't think she was flirting with Wes. I saw it.

He just wanted to make himself feel better and be like, look, we're the same. We're not the same. Equal, yeah. You are not the same. And then telling her that he loves her in the bed. Like, I felt sick. Because then, when he said that thing

to Sierra at the cancer thing, I was like, I'm done with you. Like that to me was the, your girlfriend has just asked you to like be respectful. And so you'd be like, ah, Sierra, don't touch me. Like fucking drama queen. I wanted to, like it makes her look crazy. She has not once asked him to do something

that was unreasonable in my opinion. So for him to have a conversation with Sierra and I see why Sierra is like, okay, that's so rude telling me not to touch you. Like she's not wrong for being mad. Him making a big kerfuffle out of it. Like you are responsible for your own actions. So like, why don't you not flirt with people

and then there won't be a problem. Sierra doesn't have to change her behavior. No. Jesse has to change his. So Jesse shouldn't touch Sierra's arm. But if Sierra wants to touch his arm, like that's the least of the issues between them. Don't lay on top of her in bathing suits on a pool float.

Don't put your leg over her. Like that's the sort of things we're gonna scale back first. You want to get to perfection. Why don't you work on all those things first? And again, it's up to him to change his behavior. If a girl touches your arm, like there's nothing that you could do about it. But until you've corrected every single thing

that you've done, don't you dare start telling other people what to do. But like making a big scene out of it, like just makes Lexi look so bad. When she really has not been unreasonable at all. I'm dying for her to break up with him. It's so annoying that all these things keep happening and she doesn't see it. he looks so bad when she really has not been unreasonable at all, I'm dying for her to break up with him. It's so annoying that all these things keep happening

and she doesn't see it. And then like the version she gets like is the truth, but it's not like accurate enough. Yeah. It's so fucking frustrating and that pissed me off so much. Yeah, that was weird. Just he's not, he's not understanding like what's being asked of him and why.

No. And why. No, and does he like her? I'm so confused. Yeah, he does really like her. But this is how- He doesn't act like it. But not enough to exercise some willpower. But I don't think there's anyone

that could make him behave any different. I don't think he could meet any girl that he likes more, that would be more perfect, that would make him behave any differently than he does right now, because that's just him. Like Lexi seriously- Wait, cause let's say he got with Ciara. He would-

Ciara's his girlfriend. He would do it with the next girl. Yeah, Amanda and everyone in the house. And I just wanna be clear, so far, because so much of what Wes got shit for, we didn't see. So far, Jesse's behavior has been 10 times worse than anything Wes did last season. Yeah, it's all happening in like turbo mode.

Yeah, and it's all on camera. Yeah, but it's happening in the span of like four weeks, whereas Wes took like about eight months, six months. Right. I also love to see them out leaving the house, like going clubbing, like that's fun. Yeah, it was kind of a random episode, so it's just like a Sunday morning into the week.

And then like some city. Oh yeah, then we went into the city. Yeah, but it was, but I do like when they film in the city. Yeah, me too. For so long, it was like, they didn't see each other for five days. Like that's boring. I wanted that hummus platter. When the girls were out?

When the girls were out, probably those pitas, I need a pita. They do film at interesting places in the city. Where was that? Like places you've never heard of. Oh, well they have to get filming. Where they can get like a permit. And even the food for the Hope Lodge thing looks so good.

The taco. I need a taco bowl. I'm just hungry and I'm craving bread. It seems to be the theme. But I want a taco bowl. Like I might go to Chipotle after last night's episode. Fuck shit up and go to Chipotle. I don't know, Chipotle gives me the willies.

That was a Neralta for you. Neralt, let me see. Oh, you had your dose of Neralta. I hope everyone's feeling better. An hour long episode, like how regular are we? Yeah. Oh my God, she like how regular are we? Yeah. Oh my God, she just hung up. Our call failed.

I really don't wanna call her back. Here's what I'll do. I wonder if she's talking. Hopefully she's not. Cause I could just like wrap up. Hopefully she's just like sitting in silence. Okay, have you talked? Cause I've been talking, telling everyone what's going on. No, did you talked? Because I've been talking telling everyone what's going on.

No, did you end? No, like I'm saying like I'm gonna end it. I'm just gonna end it. I'm leaving all of this in. Leave it all in. I didn't talk because I thought maybe you do the whole sign off. Okay, no, I'm signing off. Okay, I'm hanging up and I'm gonna sign off.

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