The Toast - At A Cross-Dressing Crossroads: Wednesday, February 5th, 2025

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday. Okay, it's Wednesday. It's the middle of the week. It's a hump day. However, you are in particular are going to get through that, whether it's with a pillow humping saddle or just humping someone you love. Do what you got to do.

Happy Wednesday, swirlies. How you doing? Happy Wednesday. It is the day of the Wednesday, which feels feels fair. You know, it's like yesterday was a shock to the system. Today it is what it is. When we're done with this episode, we will have ushered you into the latter half of the week

and we just have to keep looking towards the future. I find myself like as I get older saying it is what it is more and more. And it's just like, it is what it is. I mean, it's a great convo ender while also being agreeable and accepting the things that we can't change. Yes. Yes. And I actually also find myself quoting that Alcoholics Anonymous blurb more often than I care to admit because it's kind of pargy. It has nothing to do with alcoholism. It has to do with like God and courage.

Yeah, it has to do with faith, like accepting the things that I cannot change, which is the fact that it's Wednesday. And I'm just gonna accept that. Speaking of quotes, I actually saw the most beautiful quote yesterday that borderline brought me to Tierra's and it came from TikTok. I shared this on my Instagram,

so I apologize if this is repetitive, but it bears repeating. Nostalgia is proof you are living a life to be proud of. How lucky we are to yearn for our own memories. That's beautiful. It's such a party way of thinking, because nostalgia, like when you really get into it, like can be so depressing.

It's like the good days are behind us, but it's like, no, you've lived such a party life, like you're yearning for it. You yearn for your own things that you've had. I just wasn't expecting to be like hit with such a fresh positive perspective on TikTok. I wasn't. I really, really liked that.

We recorded Red Heads yesterday about the Parji book that we read and at the end of every episode, we do like moral of the story where we try and like- Wait, wait, I started the Red Heads book yesterday. So please don't spoil anything. I won't spoil anything, but that's always a fun segment, especially after we've discussed the whole book, we come to the moral of the story.

This book actually had a lot of morals like that you could have extrapolated from it. But actually, I guess I don't want to give away the moral of the story. Also say there's some really good quotes in that segment. When the Redheads drops tomorrow, the episode is fire. And if you are a reader or want to become a reader, read the wedding people start there. I want to have a conversation with you about the redheads. Okay. Cause I know it's your passion project and you love it

and like you crush it, amazing, yeah. But like at what point are we gonna have the conversation about me joining the redheads? Like at what point? Like because when you started the redheads, like I refused to read. So I'm like, oh these nerves. I literally did not think you were gonna say that.

I thought you were just gonna be like, to always have to tell me about it. Like does nobody else at this point like feel like it's weird that I'm like, oh, these nerves. I literally do not think you were gonna say that. I thought you were just gonna be like, do I always have to talk about it? Does nobody else at this point feel like it's weird that I'm not in it? Or no, nobody thinks that? I would love for you to be a part of the Redheads. The issue is though, five people is too much for a podcast

because you've been on the Redheads before for two different episodes. So you would have to come for someone's seat. And I think you should start with Margot. If you're trying to take someone's seat, see if Margot, I start with Margo. Like if you're trying to like take someone's seat, like see if Margo, I love having Margo on the show. She brings a fresh young perspective. She chooses books that we wouldn't choose.

And like, she hates, like there's always someone who hates the book as much as Margo. So like she speaks for that person. But I do think like that's the chair that someone might get up from if I had to pick. I am in agreement that there can never be five redheads. Like it's far too many, four is already like really pushing it and especially like, you know, me, I'm literally three

people, so with the amount that I talk. So I agree. And I guess it would be good for the redheads to know, like if any of them ever wanted to leave, like I am available. That's a good feeling. That is so nice to hear. That's not what I thought you were going to say.

So I'm just like feeling really excited by that, that there's interest in the Redheads. And to be clear, I wanna let you know, like if I were to join the Redheads, like it very much is like your thing. Like I'm showing up as an employee. Like I don't wanna bear any of the responsibility. I just wanna be a host.

Like I like what you've done with it. I like your outlines. Like I'm not coming for like a C-suite executive type of role. I just wanna be a mid to entry level employee. Okay, I love that. I should take Margot's temperature. I think she actually loves being a redhead even though she acts like it's such a burden.

But I think she loves the time spent with her big sis and her big sister's friends. And I do think that she, at the end of the day, likes being forced to read different types of books. And I don't know how she feels. We need to do a state of the union. How are the girlies feeling? I know Dana and Rebecca love it.

You will have to cry it from their cold, dead hands. Same for me. Yeah, no, I just, but it's pretty good out there. Well, next month's book that Rebecca chose, I've been seeing it everywhere, it's called All the Colors of the Somethin', and it's so acclaimed, but it is 600 pages. So what if that chair was an alternate chair?

No, no, what if I joined the month after that? The month after that is Dana's Choice, could also be. It would just be whatever months the books are under 400 pages, I'll be there. But what about when you don't like the book and you have to finish it? By the way, I finish books that I hate all the time. I'm not like so stubborn,

especially if it's for something I have to read. Yeah. And nobody loves to hate on a book more than me. So I can fill that role. Margot. I know, but I can be that, like I can bring that energy that Margot brings to the redheads while also bringing to herself, you know? Okay. Well, Margo won't listen to this episode, but I'm sure someone will tell her Claudia is coming for your seat on the redheads. Yeah. And let's see.

And by the way, maybe she'll then like want it more. Yeah. She'll know like it's very coveted. Let's see what happens from there. Well, I have a huge, huge news. I. Actually two huge pieces of news for the community. Ready? Okay. The first is just like a little house, oh, actually three, sorry. But the third one isn't huge.

Just a little housekeeping update. I forgot to watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So Dear Toasters is today, woohoo! The DTQ getting their fill a little bit early. We'll see you tomorrow. I do think the DTQ is larger than the BHQ. So people will be happy about that. But nobody watches the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

I know, except for us. That's so us. Like that is so us. So that was first and out set. Oh, you didn't watch us last night. And at times I'm like, why are we watching the show? Like it's feeling like a chore. It's not feeling like Southern Charm.

However, the end of the episode when Cathy Hilton hosted a dinner party for Cathy, Dorit, Bose and Erica, that's why I watched them. The dream team? The dream team, that's why I'm watching The Real House. For that. Oh, okay.

Love that. And they had a real conversation about Dorit's marriage and Erica is being the friend that you need. She's being Phoebe, if you've read The Wedding People, she's being Phoebe. That's why we're watching The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, so you know. Okay, so that makes me feel better,

but there is no recap today. So Dear Toaster is housekeeping Wednesday, back to our roots, you know? So that's the first announcement. The second announcement is we've been keeping you guys updated on our theme song journey. And I wanted to let everybody know that we are getting in the studio this week.

Jackie, your first session is tomorrow, correct? My first session is tomorrow or is it Friday? I, oh my God, my week just got sort of like blown to bits. Here I was like bragging, we got over the flu and it was the weekend and blah, blah, blah. And then how I got an ear infection has been like really sick with it. So like, I kind of have to like wipe the slate clean

for the week, except it's Friday, we'll be fine. My appointment's Friday to record. Oh my God, I took a video of myself saying it. If the ear infection that has infected your son is listening to this, my nephew. If you're hearing me, just know you better fucking pray I don't see you in the streets because what you've done to my poor nephew

sleeping with his hand on his ear, he's in so much pain, I'll fucking kill you. I'll fucking kill you and your musty dusty, germy ass, okay? I feel sick that my nephew has an ear infection. I feel fucking sick. No, it's like so annoying because I guess an ear infection like is a result of a sickness

and then like it sprouts afterwards. So we were like out of the woods fever free for like 48 hours and then back. And so like we went back to the doctor yesterday. So it's an ear infection. So he's on an antibiotic and it'll get cleared up but just like- I feel so sick doctor yesterday. So it's an ear infection. So he's on an antibiotic and it'll get cleared up, but just like.

I feel so sick from this. We made all these plans. Well, you're still gonna be hitting the recording studio on Friday. Yeah, cause that's in two days, like a lot changes in two days and the recording studio is my house. So yeah.

And how are you preparing for your first session? We had a lengthy discussion with our producer about, you know, whose vocals should get laid down first. We ultimately decided that it was Jackie's. And how are you feeling? Like, what are you doing to prepare? So I'm obviously memorizing the song. However, I can't really change the way I'm singing it

until I get feedback from the producer. I did take a video of myself singing it and I thought- How could you not have sent that? I thought I kind of crushed it until like the last line I had to redo, it was bad. That's okay. Maybe I should send that to him, but I don't had to redo, it was bad. That's okay. Maybe I should send that to him,

but I don't want to scare him. He doesn't know, you know. Well, he does. I spoke to him, so I've worked with him before and he knows obviously my vocal abilities. And I said, it's really important. Like, I know that I'm like a vocal star, but it's important that Jackie and I are represented 50-50.

Like I want just as amount of syllables as Jackie as me. But I did say, Curtis, you know, Jackie, just for, like does not have an amazing voice. Yeah, and he can auto tune me, but I still want it to be myself. Otherwise it's like, we could have hired a professional. However, in this moment, like I'm not super like egotistic about like being, you know what I mean?

Like I want what's best for the song. Like if that means that you are getting like 80% of it, like that doesn't bother me. I just want you to know. Like. Can I tell you, it actually bothers me and I'm so egotistical. Like if we're doing a dance, I want to be in the center.

Like I want my picture bigger than everybody else is like, I want to be the main character. But for this, like this show is such a equal partnership. Our theme song must reflect that. And I don't care how bad you sound, like you are getting in there and you are doing the routine. Yeah, I guess because like, we're not actually putting out a song.

Like it's a theme song, it can be fun. It doesn't have to be good. Like there's space for me, but I always let you know when like, I'm like, I want visibility on something. Like this isn't, if, you know, if I don't have what it takes, like I just don't have what it takes.

When I think of some of the people who have released music, especially think about the Bravo Sphere, if Alex Van Kampen, what's his name? Simon Van Kampen can do it, so can you. That's true. And your voice, actually, it's so funny because your voice is obviously not good, but you're not a total lost cause.

There are people, Brian Kelly, has one of, he can't even carry happy birthday, like the worst voice ever. You actually, like you don't have an amazing voice, but you can carry a tune. I mean, I have a bad voice, but I'm very musical, you know? So like I can understand the beats and the rhythm and everything except like the sound of my voice is bad,

but like I'm not just like totally off. Yeah. My third and final big announcement is probably the biggest announcement I'm not just like totally off. Yeah. My third and final big announcement is probably the biggest announcement I'll make today. I feel like today, so far this episode is just like me fishing for compliments like about my voice and the red head. Yeah, it's actually so true.

Like you're like really showering me with compliments. No, but it's also like you, you're just being so complimentary. I slept really well, maybe that's what it is. Oh, parge. Yeah. My third and final, I just wanted to update everybody. If you listen to Monday's episode, Jackie and I accidentally just discovered

an amazing photographer, if you know you know, the Michael Buckner of it all on Monday's episode. I highly encourage it. I'm sure you guys have listened to it. But if you haven't, just go listen to the fifth and final story, Jackie and I. Just whatever. We have made contact with Michael Buckner.

He slid into my DMs. Michael Buckner has made contact. When I tell you, my jaw hit the floor seeing him in my DMs, I was cracking up and I was like kind of afraid. I was like, is he like upset? Cause he's like a professional. Turns out he DMed me being like,

would love to take your headshot. And I was like, oh my God, I love that. But then I went to his Instagram. Oh, you can't get your headshot taken And I was like, oh my God, I love that. But then I went to his Instagram. Oh, you can't get your headshot taken by Michael Buckner. Like if you're just anyone. He is literally like the foremost celebrity photographer. I don't know how Christina Hacks boyfriend got a photo with him.

Like you guys, his Instagram, Emma Stone, Ayo Edibiri, Zoe Saldana, Selena Gomez. Like it's the tip of the iceberg. Like the best of the best. And he's in my DMs, like saying he thought it was so funny. His wife was surprised to hear that he's dating Christina Haag. And he lives in LA, unfortunately. So if he comes to New York, I told Claudia, she has to take maternity photos with him.

And I told Jackie, because the day is going to come where we need to redo our artwork. I'm sorry. I don't look like that anymore. We have to have Michael Buckner, creative director shoot. We have to have him do our next toast artwork. I totally agree. I would only trust Michael. Like he's kind of the only name and like his vision.

He just totally gets us and he's like the only photographer. I feel comfortable with that at this point. I echo your statements completely. And I just, I love what we do because, and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad. Like where we just talk about random people and then we hear from them. It's mostly bad.

It's mostly bad, Phillip Phillips. Like we all remember where we were when we- Your gym teacher. No, not my gym teacher, my English teacher, yes. No, but there was also a gym teacher. Starts with a D. I'm sure he's listening right now. No Jackie, his daughters are huge choasers,

I talk to them all the time. That was positive. It wasn't, okay. Jackie was my English teacher, remember, when I said that thing about him? I don't wanna get into it. I actually don't wanna get into it. And sometimes those people will hear it

and reach out to us and it's butt clenchingly horrible. It makes me wanna quit this job and actually work as an accountant. But every now and then, a Michael Buckner comes along and makes it all okay. Yeah. So that was very exciting, highlight of the week and really a front runner for Queenie of the Week.

A thousand percent. And the fact that he could take a joke, like I didn't know that about Michael Buckner, like Michael Buckner takes jokes, like I love it. Yeah. So if you have the chance- You look really cute today. Oh my gosh, thank you.

I was thinking we're both in like our winter whites. Yeah, it's giving winter wonderland. Actually this turtleneck is all that fits me right now. Like I'm just really going digging into the archives of clothes that managed to miss the Ozempic hall. Like when I, the second I lost weight, I was like, oh, I'll never be fat again. And everything over a size medium.

Can we do my Patreon idea this month of closet swap? Sure. And maybe I'll just do it for you. Cause my idea was like that we would each film ourselves. I love doing a two, like a dual vlog now, really putting our heads together. She's such a filmmaker, very Michael Buckner of you. I'm such a content creator,

but so that I would like take a couple pieces, send them to Turdy. She would film herself like opening them, enjoying them. Cause I have a lot of maternity clothes and things that you would like. So can I do that? You don't have to then send to me. If people want a part two, that's a different story.

Yeah, for sure. I could also just like come to your house and we could do this, you know? You could, but you don't have plans. Why do we have to involve like the postage system? I just think it's like such fun pen pal things, but I guess not. Yeah, you know how I feel about like bringing things into my home. And okay, but if it's like such fun pen pal things, but I guess not. Yeah, you know how I feel about like bringing things

into my home. And okay, but if it's something that you wear, I'm not gonna send you crap. Like I'm gonna send you like good body suits, good material, Norma Kamali hatch. Like I got you girl. You're wearing body suits while you're pregnant. You know what?

Yes, not a body suit, a cat suit, like with pants. That's what I wore. Like the Norma Kamali cat suit, like it's just a great base and you put a cardigan over, part delicious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I thought you were talking about like a body suit, like thong.

No, oh my God, no, I'm not a sick individual, no, no, no. I don't even wear those not pregnant. No, I just bought a couple of body suit t-shirts where it's like a t-shirt that then goes into your undies. They'll be here on Thursday, I'll let you know how it goes. No, I actually like that concept because if you're looking for like a tucked in tee, a bodysuit makes it really easy.

I just, the whole thing of like having a piece of material up your butthole makes life not worth living, to be honest. Yeah, but also like doing anything and seeing your own midriff makes life worth not living. So like this solves that. You just said a mouthful there sister. My midriff is none of my business. Yeah, I agree.

So I'm really excited about this new technology I've invested in. Body suit, t-shirt. Without technology. Without technology, shout out to the camera and the counselor. Hold it down. A timeless classic. I was at Barnes and Noble Union Square yesterday hosting a book event for Brian's book tour

and they, it's so funny, I was gonna ask but I thought it was obnoxious but anytime I go to a bookstore, if they have like one or two copies of my book, I like to sign it and then post it on my Instagram if anybody wants to sign copy. But you know, it was Brian's night, so like I wasn't gonna like make it a thing, right?

Of course. But I get there and this Barnes and Noble Union Square, like they're obviously professional, they had like 50 of my books and they were like, will you sign them? I said, of course. But I was like, I hope Brian doesn't see. I don't want him thinking I'm making this event

about myself. I actually felt so, he didn't see. But then when I was leaving, Becca, who's like his head of PR, she was like, oh, Brian walked into the green room and saw your books. I was like, oh no. Just so you know, I did not ask. Barnes and Noble put them out. And I wanted to say, it crossed my mind to ask.

And honestly, if I just wasn't so lazy, I would have asked. I'm going all the way there, like, let me sign some books. It's like one of the biggest bookstores in the city. But I didn't because I was lazy. And I did know that it was tacky. And I was like, Becca, I swear on my life, this was a total shock. I didn't ask.

And she was like, no, the Barnes and Noble staff told Brian that it was their idea, but I just feel like he didn't believe. It's so crazy. And it's so me to make everything about myself. Yeah. But I do feel like you would have been, you wouldn't make something about yourself, but not in such an overt way. Like they're in the green room splayed out. You would be hiding in the back signing books because you want to get the book sign, not sitting there. That's embarrassing. So I, I believe Turdine. I stand with Turdine.

And by the way, I just, I swear on my life. And anyone who knows you would know that about you. Like, yeah, you want to get the book signed, but like not in someone else's green room. And everybody who knows me like knows if I did do that shit. Like I would say it, like I would own it in a small way. I agree. So I just want to go on record.

I would let the record reflect. Like I did not ask. It was such a literary day yesterday. Cause Dean and Becky were at your and Brian's event and we had just recorded redheads. And so, Oh, kind of like the new era of the redheads sort of just like coming together.

Yeah. It's all sort of falling into place. Just something to think about. Kind of like a coup de redhead. Coup de head. Also what's so crazy is this month is our five year anniversary of the redheads. I don't believe you. Is that the most shocking thing you ever heard?

We started in 2020. Ugh, that's reminding me of the nostalgia quote. Like time is flying, Jax. Five years of the redheads. We've done 62 books, 63 actually, cause I know we did Turny's book as a bonus. We did Cameron Counselor too, so 64. 64.

Which is just amazing, but we're coming up on seven years of Toast in April, right? We only did the Toast for two years before I started the Redheads. Like, I guess cause we do it every day and we did, yeah, 500 episodes before I started the Redheads. I also like, I can't get into like how long we've been doing the Toast because it'll-

You can't get into At a Glance've been doing the toast because it'll turn into at a glance and we don't have time for that because we have dear toasters, you know? And like we'll get to at a glance in our birth month, which is April. Like that's when we start to start looking at toast. Our birth month is coming up. What's our birthstone? That's a good question. Let me get up. For our anniversary, we should like get matching jewelry with the toast birthstone as long as it's a pretty one. Because my birthstone is not pretty.

That's why I'm always trying to get it on other people's. Oh, by the way, do you know what the April birthstone is? It's very pretty. What is it? A diamond. Claudia, let's get like diamond. Diamond necklaces. Let's get diamond necklaces to celebrate our seven year.

And you know what they say. Any excuse. You know they say every seven years, like you completely change as a person. Now I don't know if that means like when you turn seven and 14 and 21, but like every seven years is like a rebirth. So if we've been doing the toast for seven years, that will mean that like we are completely different people

than the beginning, which we are. We are, watch the first episode of the toast if you can bear it, we are different people. Yeah, but not even just physically, like. No, I'm not even talking about physically, but obviously physically. Like as people. Yeah, no, I actually, you could, there is an amount of money you could pay me to watch that episode.

I know, but do you ever watch those old episodes? Have you ever watched? No. Because I actually think you would be surprised by how good it is, like that you would like it more than you think that you would. Of course we're like cringing our accents and like we say like so much, not that we don't do all those things now,

but we just did it differently back then. But every time I watch it, I'm like, oh my God, we're actually so cute and I don't feel embarrassed. I haven't had that experience yet, but maybe it's just because you're a little bit older than me and you're more mature. I think it's just because you refuse to watch.

Refuse, I'm too filled with self-hate to even reflect in a positive way, honestly. So like, I can't do it. When is like your last, when, what time period are you like, okay, I'm good with that? If somebody sends me a clip or something from the apartment we got evicted in,

the studio with all the windows, I can watch that shit. Okay, so- We were very funny then. You just don't like the pink throne era. The pink throne era, I don't relate to that person at all. Like I don't feel like that's me. Whereas when I see a clip of us in that studio with all the windows, I think, I'm like, oh yeah, that's like younger me.

Yeah, okay, that's cute. That's not so far off. No, no, it's not. So what's your birthstone? Ruby. Pargy. What's yours? Yellow topaz.

It's not the greatest. That's why when like all these birthstone trends, I'm like, oh, I could get like Harry's and Charlie's or Zach's and our wedding anniversary and Toast's anniversary. That's why you have kids. Like if you hate your birthstone, you can do someone else's.

Maybe you could switch it up. Shake it up Chicago. Well, we've got a great show. How are the stories? I know that your toasters are fab. I can speak for that. The stories are RBG. Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

And? Really? No, I got it. Random, but good. Yeah. RVG. It's an RVG day. Rip.

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I am 25 years old. That is correct. So our first story, while it's not like the most breaking news bit of the day, like it's something that I find deeply interesting on a number of levels. Meghan Markle has teamed up with Billie Eilish to give merch to a teen who lost their home in LA wildfire. So Meghan Markle- I have studied this video. Oh yeah, same. When I saw it, I was like, it took me a second because she never posted on Instagram.

And when she does, it's like really tailored, pre-made content, not like an Instagram video. No, like if anybody else posted this video, any celebrity influencer, like it wouldn't be news. We wouldn't be talking about it. But this is the fourth post on Meghan's Instagram. And it is a video of her being very excited because she shares a story of how when she was in Alta Dina

a few weeks ago and she was visiting the ashes and people's former homes that there was a- The community. There was a young girl who was most upset because she got a Billie Eilish t-shirt at a concert and she left it in the washing machine and the washing machine burned down. And she lost that memory in that piece of merch.

And so Megan reached out to everyone she knows to get to Billie Eilish, to see if she could replace that shirt for the girl. And Billie's and her team sent like a package of merch and this girl was gonna be so happy, which is like a nice story. And like Billy's team went above and beyond like signing records.

Oh yeah, signing everything of course. Like I just wanna say this is a great story for Billy. Like Billy's having a good press day. 100%. She didn't even really have to do anything. The video is so crazy because as I said, it's the fourth video that Meghan Markle's ever posted. This is like the first post on her feed

at like about like even the service that they do, which they did a lot for the wildfires. They were visiting with families and they were photographed doing this and that. And she doesn't take like, you know, videos on her iPhone, selfie videos. Like it was felt like an influencers, they wouldn't even post it to their feed.

They posted to their story. Like, wow, how did this make it to the grid? It was also very like edited in the sense that like every three words there was a cut, which I don't know if everybody notices stuff like that, but considering she's just like passively telling a story, I don't know why there had to be so many cuts. Like why couldn't this like be just, you know, a stream of conscience? I'm very critical of when I see like podcast clips of people like cutting every three words.

I'm like, can you not speak one sentence without cutting? I'm hyper aware of that too. I think it's because of what we do for a living. I don't know if everybody else's, but I also like notice the amount of cuts. Yeah, like when I see influencers doing ads, like when there are cuts every three words, it's like, you couldn't just like say it, you know. You couldn't say one sentence cut.

Like maybe I sometimes cut out like a pause or an, oh, I always flood my words and I just do it again. And I cut, but this wasn't that. This was, she's just like telling a story and there were so many cuts and then it was posted and it was just like so fucking random. It was so random. The sheer fact that this video made it to feed

was like really freaking me out. One, because, you know, to do something nice like that, like you do it just for the sake of doing something nice, like not for like posting about it on social media and bragging. And people are so tough on Meghan that like, you know, if you're a hater, your first thought is like, why can't you just do like an act of good without bragging about it?

And then the other is like, okay, well, it's nice that you wanna help people, but like you're using your platform to brag about helping one person with a t-shirt, like when the devastation of the fires is so much bigger than that. Personally, I'm not in a Meghan hating era, like when the devastation of the fires is so much bigger than that. Personally, I'm not in a Megan Hayden era. Like I think she's hilarious and so crazy. Like I don't even begin to understand her,

even try to understand her. Like why she would post this in feed, I could never tell you. It like, I understand if she wanted to post it because she thought it was a sweet story. Billie looks good. It's like, you know, just uplifting. Like first of all, like posted to stories.

Yeah, it's so material for stories. And the thing is, like, her and Harry do a lot of community service. That is like their job. They are professional philanthropists. So it's not like she just did one good thing one time and felt the need to brag about it, but it's like, why now?

Why this act of service? It's so random. And it's such a singular act of service because what they do helps millions. They're always raising money for, you know, the poor. Global causes, yeah. Yeah, not like one rando girl who, by the way, is just as deserving of this act of service

as anybody else, but it's, like, I'm so confused. So confused. Like, and the fact that she was like so impressed that her, she was able to reach Billie Eilish. She thanked Adam Levine and Bahati. It's like, you are literally she was able to reach Billie Eilish. She thanked Adam Levine and Bahati. It's like, you are literally one degree of separation from Billie Eilish. I'm shocked you didn't have her phone number,

but someone you know obviously knows her. Yeah, that was like a little pick me when she was like, and I knew I wanted to try and get in contact with Billie Eilish, but I had no idea where to start. It's like, you're a former member of the monarchy. You can get in contact with whomever you want. You live in Montecito, your neighbors are Ellen. It's so, you're a former member of the monarchy. You can get in contact with whomever you want. You live in Montecito, your neighbors are Ellen. Like it's so not hard.

A Billie Eilish would have a hard time getting in touch with you. You would not have a hard time getting in touch with Billie Eilish. Like that was just a little like, can you stop acting like you're not a queen? You are a princess, excuse me. You are.

Yeah, that was really weird. Like all the celebrities know each other. Like that was- They all have the same agents, managers. Someone's publicist is friends with the other person's publicist. Like, that was- They all have the same agents, managers. Someone's publicist is friends with the other person's publicist. Like, it's so connected. It's so connected, so-

But acting like she was going on this arduous journey to get in contact with Billie Eilish, when it could have taken her a total of seven minutes. Literally. She just texts like her one person is like, who do we know that knows Billie Eilish or Phineas? And it's done, like that's it. Or their manager, or's like, who do we know that knows Billie Eilish or Phineas? And it's done, that's it. Or their manager, or their agent, or their publicist.

Or someone at their record label, literally anyone. The Hollywood, everyone's teams are like 50 people. And so many of those team members work on multiple teams. Yes, however, so the posting of the video is kind of random. But I feel like if she's now getting into this content creation era, and we can expect stuff like this all the time, but I feel like if she's now getting into this like content creation era, and like we can expect stuff like this all the time,

then I guess this was just like kicking it off, and this is what you wanted to say. God, I hope. Like I loved seeing her being so real in her house. Like not me, I was not even watching her in the video. I was like looking in the background. I just wanted to see different things in her house. If we can, if she's gonna use her Instagram

as a window into her life, I'm so down. Right, but like that starts today. Like what are we posting today? Tomorrow. She needs to have a constant stream of 24 hour stories. Right, but if like the next thing is in two weeks and it's another trailer for With Love Megan, where does this fall in?

I don't know, she looked so gorgeous. She is so gorgeous. She is so gorgeous. I was so, you know when you open your phone and it takes you like a second to register what you're seeing, sometimes you get like a piece of crazy news and you're like not able to read the English that's in front of you.

I was like, wait, this is Meghan Markle doing a selfie. I just couldn't fathom it. No, and the cover photo I think was the pile of stuff from Billie Eilish. So I'm like, what is this pile of stuff? Not the pile of stuff from Billie Eilish. So I'm like, what is this pile of stuff? Not the pile of stuff. But really fantastic for Billie and the team. And I'm happy for the girl.

It's a nice story, as we said. Of course. Just a random bit of content. No, and it makes Billie look great that this piece of positive news about her is put out, not by her. Because there is a lot of criticism about celebrities who do charity, but then do press about it.

Like that's an often like a criticism. People make a lot of Taylor Swift when often she doesn't even share it. It just gets shared because she's so famous. And I mean, I get it. It's like definitely weird. It's just like do the nice thing without like getting attention for it.

So Billie got that. She didn't, you know, she was not a part of this announcement whatsoever. And now we're like, oh, look at Billy donating all this product. Yeah. Also speaking of Billy, I wanted to get your like, ask what the streets are saying. Cause when Beyonce won album of the year, Billy had tears in her eyes. Did you see that? I didn't. And at the time I just kind of like thought maybe she was like so happy for Beyonce, but

it's like Casey Musgraves got roasted because like she wasn't smiling big enough. Meanwhile, Billie was like crying, but was she crying because she lost her? She was so excited for Beyonce and her first win. Based on a lot of the research I've done post-Grammy's when it comes to album of the year is that I can actually see Billie like having tears in her eyes because if there was a year for Billie to win the album, like it was that and how we're always saying like how Beyonce's year was the year they like it was that. And how we're always saying like how Beyonce's year was the year they gave it to Beck. And it's like, Beyonce probably cried that year too. You know?

I didn't see that. Let me just see. I'm gonna look it up. Yeah. I don't know. You could read either way, but I was like, I'm just wondering which one it is. But then also you said, so like Billie Eilish was probably like the runner up for album of the year.

Oh, I see. You see? Yeah, she does just have also like really piercing, like the color of her eyes. I know, but they look watery. They do, they do. And she has like a little bit of like a purse slip when you're like trying to like swallow them up

in your throat. But is that crying tears of joy for this icon getting her moment? I wanna say no, like honestly, and that's what I was saying about Kacey Musgraves too, like you can be happy for Beyonce and sad for yourself, that doesn't make you like a woman who doesn't support other women.

It just makes you a human being who wanted to win an award like that they were eligible for. I don't think that's crazy. Okay, yeah, no, that makes sense to me. I was just- Oh, and by the way, she's 1000% crying. I'm gonna send you this particular video, yeah. No, I know, I saw it,

but why are people not saying like, she was upset that she lost, like just like they said about Casey Musgraves. Cause I guess they're reading it as like Casey being mad that Beyonce won while Billy's being sad that she lost. Yeah, Billy, yeah. But I don't think- That's also just people then projecting,

like they just want Casey to be mad cause they want Beyonce to not have dessert. Like that's just them- Yes, and I don't think Casey's reaction was malicious. I think if we're reading into anything, it's just like a sadness for yourself for losing. That's okay. I feel like these award shows,

you're just conditioned to be happy for the person who won and like really just be happy to be nominated. Like it's okay to want big things for yourself. Yeah, yeah. And I actually think she's 100% crying. And yeah, I think that what I've learned and I'm not like a Billy Stan is that like her album was like a real top contender.

Yeah, but then wouldn't Short and Sweet have been the runner up because it won best pop vocal and Short and Sweet beat Billie Eilish for pop vocal album. No, it's a good point. So is there any way Billie Eilish could have won album of the year without winning best pop vocal and short and sweet beat Billie Eilish for her vocal album. No, it's a good point. So is there any way Billie Eilish could have won album of the year without winning best pop vocal? Yes, I think that it has probably happened before. Okay, but that's just like,

I just wanna say it doesn't make sense to me. I'm in complete agreement with you sister. Okay, thank you. Unless it's about the vocals, you know? Like maybe they're saying that Billie's album could have been better, but it's just the vocals. Maybe they say like, yes, Sabrina's was more poppy, but it was a better pop album,

but overall, Billie's was a better album. Like you could make the argument for sure. And the people at the Grammys just make stuff up. Like, look at us, we're making stuff up. Like I wouldn't think too hard about it. Are you ready for our next story? Hoda Kotb is teasing her next project after leaving the Today Show

and Joanna Gaines is involved. Obsessed. So Hoda and Jenna posted a collab post, a photo of them hugging, a carousel, and it shows them like- Hoda and Jenna? I'm sorry, old habits die hard. Hoda and Joanna.

Hoda and Joanna. Hoda and Joanna. And they're in a studio and there's someone filming them, it's a carousel of photos, and Hoda said, "'Remember I was talking about repotting? Gotta take first steps. We have something fun cooking. Come along on the great adventure.

Stay tuned. Cooking. Love Joanna Gaines. Cooking. Cooking. I don't know what they're doing together, but they're working on something. Okay, let me see.

I'm looking at their photos. They're like working in this empty conference room with a laptop and a folding table and they're being filmed. I have no fucking idea. I feel like maybe it's an episode of Joanna's show and she's redesigning Hoda's working space for the next chapter of Hoda. Oh, that's obviously what it is. Good call.

Because like it looks like an office space. It's like this empty, ugly office space. Yeah, with like dropped tile ceilings. So I guess then the next question is like, what is Hoda doing like an office space. It's like this empty, ugly office space. Yeah. With like dropped tile ceilings. So I guess then the next question is like, what is Hoda doing in this office space? And she also talked about repotting, which I feel like is- Garden vibes.

No, I feel like it's like a metaphor of like blooming in a new plant. Yes, I agree. I agree. Oh, I thought it was like a Easter egg. She has a gardening company. Which also reminds me of more of the story from yesterday's Red Heads, but of course I don't want to. Spoiler, thank you.

Yeah, yeah. So what kind of company could Hoda be starting? I mean, she could do anything, but she's like a woman in media. I feel like maybe like a little podcast of her own with like a little small media, kind of like how Katie Couric has like Katie Couric media. She like makes Instagram reels.

By the way, do you see Don Lemon at the Grammys? No, I saw about him. Are you familiar with what Don Lamon is up to? He's like an internet creator. Yes, he's like a TikToker where he had a really popular on the street, like Man on the Street style series where he would go up and ask people about random stuff, some political, some cultural, like,

and people really liked it. And it was like an introduction to a generation like that didn't know him. They didn't know this was like a guy who had a whole career at CNN. They just thought it was like some guy on the street, not like this journalist. And so he's like taking that to the Grammys now.

He was on the Grammys like running after people chasing them down, like Gracie Abrams with his little microphone, being like, Gracie, Gracie, what do you think about? And it was like, why are you working so hard? You know? I'm like, you- Didn't he get like a big package?

Yeah, right. No, not only that, like you are an accomplished journalist from like a big network, like CNN, you were there for so many years, and now you're just like slumming it on TikTok with the rest of us? Yeah, that's crazy. I found it really crazy.

And I forgot that he was doing that. And then I saw a couple of his Grammys videos go viral. I'm like, oh, he got himself a press pass for the Grammys and he stood at the front of the carpet and was just like, actually hounding people. He's like a paparazzi now. Yeah. It was really crazy to see.

That is surprising. But no, I didn't see any of that content. I just like, I guess I would have scrolled past it anyway. Yeah, it took me a second to realize it was Don Lemon. Yeah, don't go to him for my pop culture news. No, no, and I don't, and that's the thing. He's still doing politics. So I don't know why he was at the Grammys.

Like I think he's having a crisis of identity. It happens. I mean, we've all been there. It looks like he needs some repotting. Maybe he could go to Hoda's new company for the, for the vase. For the planter. Yeah, so I could see her doing a lot of things if it's just like a media media thing or maybe

she wants to do something totally different like a lifestyle Martha Stewart vibe. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But I like this as a first step love Joe. Yeah, I feel like Joe's always being spotted with celebrities doing projects with them and then we never get like the roundabout. What happened with her and JLo? Even though I think that was a film that was just like a personal project that she wanted Joanna Gaines working on. Do you remember when they were like looking for houses in Malibu together?

Yeah. But like that wasn't for a TV show or anything. I just think JLo was using her for design. Oh, wow. Do you remember? Because we never saw it. What was the wind up? Yeah. I forgot about that. Elvin's never forgotten. Are you ready for our next story? Brody Jenner.

Oh, yeah. Brody Jenner is saying, I don't get to go on my sister Kylie's private jet. So Brody Jenner is revealing, you know, some of the facts of his life in an interview with Bustle and how he does not benefit from his half siblings' fortune and his dad's marriage. He said, Kendall and Kylie are my sisters.

We have the same last name, but we don't share a bank account. He said, I don't get to go on the pink jet, though I would love to. So he's currently on Fox Special Forces, and he made it clear that him and his brother are related to the billionaire family through their dad, Caitlin. And Brody rejects the assumption that he's just a trust fund kid who doesn't have to work. He said, it's funny that people think that because first off, my dad

never gave any child support. It wasn't like we were getting any money from the Kardashians ever. According to the outlet, Caitlin's representative claimed Brody's mother Linda Thompson turned down the possibility of child support and alimony during her divorce from Caitlin, formerly Bruce Jenner.

Instead, she accepted an upfront payment to reflect 100% of their marital assets, which was millions of dollars. So like, not- Oh, interesting, interesting. That's funny. I don't think of Brody Jenner as like a Neppo sibling or like this Hollywood.

I think of him as somebody who does have to work for a living as a reality star. I know he does like a lot of brand deals. He has a liquor company. I don't think of him like that. That must be like a stereotype that plagues him. And I want him to know, like I don't feel like people think that about him.

Yeah, but I feel like if he didn't do all this stuff, we might've like thought that about him. Like when he I feel like if he didn't do all this stuff, we might've thought that about him. When he came on the hills, you might've thought, oh, just a nepo baby trust fund. Really? I feel like when you saw his house, you were like, oh, this is the house of a person who works for a living. It wasn't crazy at all.

I don't remember his house, but also it doesn't help himself. I do, it was his house with Caitlin. Oh, oh, oh my God, Caitlin. Yeah, it was just a really small little ranch. Yeah, I remember that house. Yeah, oh, oh my God, Caitlin. Yeah, it was just like a really small little ranch. Yeah, I remember that house. Yeah, so it wasn't that of someone who had unlimited funds from like family.

That was Hill's new beginning. I'm talking about like Hill's back in the day when he came on his like Brody Jenner and all the girls were fighting over him and he just came off of Princes of Malibu. And by the way, when you're on a show like that, you're not helping your case. No, but by the way, at the time,

yeah, he was the son of someone very wealthy. You just said his mother got millions of dollars. Like, so yeah, you were a wealthy kid. Yeah, I don't think he like sees it so much like that, but I can understand why people might have that idea of him. Yeah. And why can't he go on his sister's plane though? Like, aren't they friends?

Special Forces is always making news. I know, it's kind of fabulous. Why can't he go on his sister's plane though? Like aren't they friends? Special Forces is always making news. I know, it's kind of fabulous. I mean, that's like the same with Traders, always making news. By the way, did I tell you that like I got an initial like reach out for Special Forces? You did.

Maybe there was a time in my life when I would have done it, obviously not pregnant and I'm not gonna like go to the middle of Australia and jump out of a helicopter when I got willing to have a kid. If they reached out to me last year, maybe I would have done it. It's in Australia. I don't know, they always are taking them

like somewhere fucking crazy. And I saw Jojo Siwa jumping out of a helicopter into a lake. Like you could not, the thing is, it wouldn't even be good for the network or for me. I would be the first one to go home. I wouldn't even do the first challenge. Like I'm out.

No, that's, it's nice to be asked though, that like your special forces caliber. To be considered. And yeah, I didn't realize that it's nice to be asked though, that like your special forces caliber. To be considered. And yeah, I didn't realize that it's so intense. Like the training stuff seems fine. Like the physicality. By the way, I didn't even take the first meeting. I'm sure I wouldn't have even made it past like the first.

Yeah, but. I would never have been cast. Yeah, but still it's an honor to be nominated. No, I was like me on a TV show? No thanks. So that's sad that he's not like close enough with his half sisters to like go on the plane. Yeah, because I feel like they have a good relationship.

I feel like if it was Kendall's plane, like maybe he would have a better chance of getting on it, do you feel that? Yes, because Kylie's just like with her friends and her- Or I feel like just Brody have kids. He just had a baby, yeah. I feel like if he had a kid who was like a similar age to one of Kylie's kids,

like maybe it would have bode well for them, but- No, but there's like- I can't see a world in which they would take a trip together. No, there's like a two year difference probably between his baby and Kylie's youngest. And what do you think like the Jenner girls make of the Jenner boys?

Like it's their dads. I'm sure when they were growing up, it was like, oh, dad's like other weird family. But now like they're all grown. No, I feel like when they were growing up, it's like dad, like dad's cool. Like they were like so cool and handsome and older. Like they were just like the cool older guys.

Maybe they'll always see them that way. Maybe. Cause Brody was super cool. All I think of is half job. Of course, but that's what Kim would think of Brody. But think of like what Kendall and Kylie thought of their older half brother. And I guess Kim and Brody,

like Kim and the girls, Courtney and Chloe, Rob, and the Jenner boys have no relation. Like their step dad. No blood relation, but they were so close when Caitlin and Chris were married. They're step siblings. Yeah. And then Kylie and Kendall are half siblings.

But they really like in the early days of the show, so much has happened, so we really forget, but like before Caitlin transitioned and Chris and Caitlin were still married, like they rode so hard for Caitlin. Like that's our dad, that's our dad, that's our dad. That's what makes the whole thing like even sadder. Caitlin walked Kim down the aisle at her wedding to Kanye.

To Kanye? Yeah. I don't know if I knew that. I'm pretty sure. I mean, that would make sense. Look, that's really sad. Yeah, it is really sad. And now that I'm rewatching Beverly Hills,

when Bruce was their stepfather, he was giving major Orson Hodge energy. Do you agree? Yeah, I do. Because he was like this buttoned up like freak who was like always like had, he would like die on random hills, you know? Yeah.

It's so Orson. That's so funny. I just got to the episode last night where, spoiler alert, they find out Lynette has cancer. And it's like, as if this woman didn't have enough to deal with. Yeah, oh my God, I forgot about those times. And the way that they found out that she had cancer

was like they were fighting really bad, her and Tom, because she fell in love with the pizza manager at the place, remember? She was flirting with him. She didn't fall in love, but she was having fun because Tom is a big loser, and this guy made her feel pretty and cool. She wasn't gonna do anything.

She just liked being thought of as sexy and whatever. And they had a really big fight about it, and he threw her off the bed and she hit her head. And so she went to the hospital and they found the cancer. It was actually such a crazy turn of events. Oh my gosh. The show is so good. Oh my gosh.

I dream of Desperate Housewives now. My dreams are the characters. Oh, that's nice. It is a party place to dream, Fairview. Wisteria Lane. People are always like, Claudia, are you gonna move to the suburbs? If Wisteria Lane existed, Fairview,

I would be there in a second. It's gorgeous every day, but it's also on the East Coast. It's a fake place. It's not meant to represent any particular city or state, but they do make it pretty clear because they're in close proximity to New York City that it's on the East Coast, but it's never rains. It's never cold.

No one's ever wearing a jacket. Yeah. I wonder where that could possibly be. So I actually read like a fan fiction about based on all the clues where they think and it's somewhere in Pennsylvania. Yeah, because also it's called the Eagle State on their license plates in Fairview and like that would be Pennsylvania. Yeah, there are a couple of clues, but it's still it's really meant to be a completely mythical place. Yeah.

Where I would love to live one day. Are you ready for our fourth story? Oh my God, four? No, am I? No. No, no, no. No. Is it the fourth story

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Our next story, Denise Richards teases her and Charlie Sheen's daughters about having fucked up parents in the first trailer for her new Bravo series. So, it's nice. I was shocked. I think we reported a while ago, she was getting her own Bravo show,

but you know, that's like a book getting optioned. This felt so unfamiliar to me. No, it felt familiar in the sense that I feel like we were like, oh, go Denise, like you leave the housewives and get your own show. That's what everyone thinks is gonna happen when they go on housewives and it never does. But then like to actually get to the point of filming

and trailer and green light, like we're on. So the first trailer for Denise Richards and her wild things dropped yesterday and she is letting cameras into every aspect of her life with her three daughters and her husband, Aaron. As her kids get older and her career continues to evolve, she's showing the ups and downs that come along with being a woman who does it all.

She says, I'm just trying to balance everything. I'm an actress, wife, the Hollywood thing. She is then shown with a bunch of different former Beverly Hills castmates, Camille Grammer, Garcelle, Cathy Hilton, Sutton. Then Erica Girardi appears, they have longstanding beef. We shall see what happens. This is really interesting because I feel like Denise

was given such a raw deal on Housewives. Like they really, all the women were like so threatened and jealous, like they just wanted her out and they made it so uncomfortable for her that she left. Like, and I feel like we really didn't get to see her potential. And even what we saw, like I really enjoyed, I thought she was a great reality, star in a great house, we've been there,

was much left unsaid. Having said that, I don't know if I'm totally interested in watching a show just about her. And her girls who are like, you know, young women. They're always making news. They're always making news, one is 13, one is 20, and one is 19. So it'll probably be a lot about like them

and their antics and then also like her mothering and then with a bit of Hollywood. I'm not like dying to watch it, but I could see it maybe doing well and being good. I also feel like it's kind of a new format for Bravo. They don't often do just like solo family shows. Don't be tardy famously. Yeah.

But she was like a real, real housewife. Like Denise is a celebrity. So this is them giving like, yes she has like a tie to the housewives, but she's really just like a famous person getting her own show. And I feel like they don't do this a lot. No, but it is a good format that has worked really well

for other network. Kardashians, you know. Yeah, living low hand. A lot of people have tried it and it didn't have that same success. So I could see this being like that, but Don't Be Tardy is actually a really good example of this being able to work.

Don't Be Tardy is one of the best shows on television. I didn't mean to get into this and we don't have to like do obviously a whole. Dissertation. But just important reminder that like those women, like they did that. Yeah. And obviously they've fallen, you know,

Kim is just going through a lot. I don't even, I can't even keep up with what's happening in her world. I mean, it's not as glamorous as it once was, but I love that we have those like eight seasons and they were really successful eight seasons. Like I love that we have that kind of in stone memorialized in the form of a TV show.

Yeah. And we'll always have that. And now we have this. They can't take that away from us. And now we have Denise Richards and her wild things. So the show premieres on March 4th on Bravo, if that sounds interesting to you. It doesn't actually. Now that I've really fully thought it through,

and I loved Denise on the housewives, like I can't stress that enough, this does not sound interesting to me. Okay. Our fifth and final story, my girl Sabrina announces her short and sweet deluxe album featuring a Dolly Parton collab. So Sabrina shared with her fans yesterday

that she is extending her short and sweet era and she's bringing one of her biggest heroes along for the ride. Yesterday she announced that she's dropping a deluxe edition of her album, featuring none other than Dolly Parton on a remix of Please Please Please. So some of the new tracks that she's adding

for the deluxe album are like totally new songs that we hadn't heard yet. We need more short and sweet. Like it was a little too short and sweet. Agreed. Bonus tracks called 15 minutes, couldn't make it any harder, busy woman and bad reviews. And then also Minutes, Couldn't Make It Any Harder, Busy Woman, and Bad Reviews.

And then also- Oh, that's a lot. Yeah, Please Please Please featuring Dolly Parton. I do feel like some of these songs aren't just songs that were left on the cutting room floor of Short and Sweet. I feel like they were written after the album came out. Like I remember, I feel like she got bad reviews for,

maybe it was when Please Please Please dropped as the second single, people were like, this is no espresso. I feel like it might be about that. I just feel like whatever we think the songs are gonna be about, like the titles are always, they're not what you think. She's very good with the words.

She slips it on its head. It has nothing to do with music reviews, but it has more to do with, I don't know. She really is very smart like that. Like someone's smart moments in bed or something. By the way, yes. Do you think 15 minutes is about 15 minutes of fame? I do, but maybe I'm wrong.

Like she's always flipping words on their head. For someone who put on the last 15 minutes. Exactly. I love that we're getting new music. I also like the point of what you had said is that maybe it's music that reflects the last year of her life, Barry Kiyogan coded. But what I actually loved about Short and Sweet

and what she had said was she finished the album Short and Sweet before Espresso even came out. So none of the album was trying to cater to the success of Espresso. She didn't write the songs to be like, this could be like Espresso. The next Espresso. Like it was done and dusted and in the cannon

like a moment in time and it didn't have anything to do with the public reaction. Success. Which I think was why it was so great. She just got to do her thing and not worry about how it would be received. So if these songs are from like the post launch era, they might be a little more catered

to what she thinks people want, which is never like a great place to be, but I trust in Sabrina. That's what I'll say. I loved also Dolly throwing her hat in the ring. And on Please, Please, Please. So it'll be like a song we can enjoy for the second time. You know, speaking of Deluxe,

I only am just now realizing with Tortured Poets being submitted at the Grammys as an album, it was, you know how she releases like four different versions of the album and the first one had like 10 versions and then the Deluxe one had 20. The version that she submitted for the Grammys was the short one, the first one.

It's not weird. It was short the first one? The first version that came out is like half the album. I'm going to look. Oh wait, I'm sorry. Please ignore me. I think I'm getting confused with Midnights where she did like two separate albums.

Like 3 a.m. version, 2 a.m. Yeah. Cause I don't even know. So here's Tortured Poets, the anthology. It's not the anthology. And here's Tortured Poets department, the anthology again. Maybe that's like clean versus not clean. I'm only seeing like one.

I think it was just really one turtle and it was really long the whole time. No, but the anthology is the second volume. The second half, hold on. The Tortured Poets Department, not the anthology. Okay, here's regular. So many. Yeah.

It goes all the way down to Clarabelle. Oh, I guess it is much shorter. No, you're right, like no Peter, no Paul. No black dog, no high school. Yeah. Albatross, Chloe or Sam, Cassandra Bolter, Robin, manuscript, People's Windows, Amy. Yeah, okay, so the Torture Poets department had 16 songs.

Then the anthology that she released after had 31. Yeah, I didn't even know that. Okay, I was right. I did. She's so confusing. So I guess it's totally, I've never really gotten into the anthology, I could say. Oh my God, it's the better part.

I thought I was saying like the second half. Now I realize like I just never, I never really got past the first half. Just like- Well, you have work to do. I know, it's always waiting for me, but I just, I always start the album after Fortnite, of course I started on Tortured Poets.

Of course. And then I'm like, say she ate it by the time I get to. 16. 16. Was that the fifth story? That was the fifth story, new Sabrina music. Earlier than expected. It's time for two toasters, the best part of the week, it sometimes happens Tuesdays,

sometimes it happens Wednesdays, but it happens, okay? That's what counts. And it's our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our absolute best to help the Swirlies in need. So if you are ever looking for advice from us about dating, relationships, work, drama, whatever it is, email us, deartoasters at gmail.com

or simply head over to our website, thetostpodcast.com. This little submission box when you scroll down, both means of submitting are completely anonymous. You have nothing to worry about. Let's dive in. Hello, swirlies. I'm having a dilemma about my friend. I, 23, have known my best friend, also 23, for about a decade now.

Over the course of our friendship, she's dropped little hints that she has suspicions that her and her sister do not share the same father. She has given me many examples as to why she believes this. They all seem strong in her, and I back up her theory. I have since found out via my family, who has apparently known about this for a while, that it is in fact true.

They just never told me because I never brought it up to them. Her family has been quick in shutting down the theories and the questions that she's asked and they clearly want her not to know for whatever reason. But now I know. Do I tell her? Is it none of my business?

I don't wanna involve myself in someone's family drama, but I feel bad knowing this while she is left in the dark. Please help." That's really tough. That is really tough. I feel like she would be able to find this out for herself. You know, like a- Why don't you just help her find out,

like find out a piece of information from your family and then like lead her to the trail. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But then if she ever found out that you knew and you didn't tell her, well, you could always be like, I didn't want to be the, like, if your own parents won't tell you, like why is it on her to tell her,

but I wanted to help you, if it is true, see the light. I don't know, I think. Sounds kind of like a plot on Desperate Housewives. Yeah. I think help her find out, but then you're just being so disingenuous. Like when you- Honestly, just tell her.

Yeah, it's also like a lot of work, help her find out. Pay her a trip. Yeah, no, and it's like, what do you owe her parents loyalty for? Like that's your friend, 10 years. Like tell her, tell her. Yeah, and just be like, this is what I heard. This is what I know, you know, could not be entirely true.

You should go and confirm. Oh, and by the way, don't give up your sources because then you're gonna get your family in trouble. That's when it becomes a mess. It's like all the people in the town and the friends and the neighbors know, but their own daughters, they can't know about themselves. It's like what everyone's- Everyone's complicit.

Everyone's like talking about you, knows more about you than you know about yourself. Terrible feeling. Just tell her. Just tell her, but just be careful how you tell her in terms of like getting other people like involved and like liable.

Yeah. But I think you can tell her. Yeah, it sounds like she already knows. Normally I agree, like let's not blow, you know, the house, burn the house down, but like sometimes, you know what, give me the matches. No, but it's like, she already really knows. If she had no idea, never spoke about this,

but you just found out that her and her sibling have different- That's true. Then I wouldn't upend her whole life, but she pretty much knows. She's just looking for confirmation. So just give it to her. And so you are the confirmation.

Yeah. Okay. I just found out about my husband's porn and cross-dressing addiction six months ago, right after we got married. I knew about the porn addiction. He had always told me that he hadn't been seeking that out

every time I ever asked, and he's been lying. He has managed to hide the cross-dressing from me for our entire six-year relationship. He agreed to go to therapy and work through the addiction, but a few days ago, I had this weird gut feeling, and I went through his phone to find out that he had been sending himself sexy videos of other women on Instagram.

Not technically porn, which he pointed out to me. He's promised to take therapy seriously, this go around, but I'm really just finding it hard to trust him. I come from a very conservative family. I don't want my initial resolution to be divorce. Now I'm not so sure. Does he deserve another chance? What should I do?

I just feel like the cross-dressing is very interesting to me. I didn't know you could have like a cross-dressing addiction. I feel like cross-dressing is like the to me. I didn't know you could have like a cross-dressing addiction. I feel like cross-dressing is like the beginning step of discovering something about your gender or your sexuality. Or maybe that's my limited knowledge from Caitlyn Jenner's documentary.

From Caitlyn on Diane Sawyer, yeah, of course. Which was amazing. And the girls had said there were a couple of times in their childhood, but they walked into the garage and Caitlyn was cross- cross dressing before she transitioned. So I feel like it's admirable that you wanted to work it through the first time and a porn addiction, I think actually a lot of people's husbands suffer

from porn addiction in this day and age. It's like really kind of common because it's so accessible and people work through it and get to the other side. Like it's really, it's not to be ashamed of like something you can like heal from and rehabilitate if you are looking to do that. So I actually don't think that that's like a total deal breaker if he really is committed to getting help. But the cross-dressing and the hiding things from you

and like seeking out different porn on social media, like this is concerning behavior. Yeah, but maybe the cross-dressing hiding social media, like this is concerning behavior. Yeah, but maybe the cross-dressing hiding social media like has to do with a larger porn addiction. And so I would first tackle that and then see, cause they're definitely like, you should look into- How does cross-dressing have anything to do with porn? I don't know, like, I think, I don't know.

And cross-dressing is just like when you dress up like a woman, right? Yeah. Or vice versa. Yeah. Wearing clothes of the opposite sex. Yeah, okay. So I would start with the porn addiction. Really, I wouldn't.

The porn addiction is so not concerning to me. Like obviously it's not great, but it's really something you can work through and I think it's something really common in this day and age. And I think having an addiction to cross-dressing is indicative of like a larger life change that this person might need to be going through. But maybe not.

I mean, you're just talking about Caitlyn Jenner cause we have that one touch point. Yes, and that's my only frame of reference completely honestly. So of course that comes to mind. Same, but I do think some people like might just cross-dress and it ends there. I don't know, but I think so. Otherwise like cross dressing wouldn't just be a singular thing. It would be like right so I

don't know but I think you have to have a lot of the conversation like honest conversations with him like Just asking him to be honest about how he's feeling maybe it's couples counseling where like a counselor can kind of draw that out of him so you can understand like how he's feeling and what he's looking for. Yeah, and you know, maybe he likes to do drag. I actually have, on Drag Race, there was a straight contestant once. So?

Once, and by the way. Anything is possible. Let me tell you, nobody, none of the other contestants could get over it. Like they seriously, they couldn't stop talking about it. I think I would say couples counseling for this. Yeah, I also just feel like the issue is, is that this person isn't honest and probably not even honest with themselves.

Yeah. So it's gonna take a long time to get to resolution if there is gonna get, and it's like, seriously, you need to think, is this worth your time? But she doesn't wanna get divorced, like she wants to make it work, so like I think you have to take steps towards making it work well also,

and I think he needs to be rehabilitated for his porn addiction. Okay, but like, what if this young sprightly woman like spends years in therapy with this guy just to end that like, he wants to transition to being a woman and that's not something she's like wants to stick around for. And it's like, how much time are you gonna,

cause this person's like a, like also a liar. Like that's a hard part about these things. It's like the fact that this person who's your husband is keeping so many things from you and like, you know, let you go through the wedding without sharing this huge part of himself. Like that to me is the bigger betrayal. I don't give a shit that you're dressing up as a woman.

Like it's, you're lying to me. Yeah. So like, I don't know, I could see him being really stubborn in therapy and he's done it before and not taken it seriously. So what you're going to go to a couple of ceremonies, spend all this time and for what? For maybe potentially no resolution.

So you're saying cut and run. They don't have kids, but they are married. I'm not saying cut and run. I'm just saying, I need you to look inward because are you just doing this because you come from a conservative Christian family and you don't wanna get divorced or because you really love this person

and you don't wanna get divorced? Also, yeah, also ask like, do you like your relationship and you wanna keep it? Enough. But they're married, but they don't have kids. Correct, she didn't mention any kids. And like if she wants to have kids. And they got married six months ago, so if she's super conservative,

maybe she could be six months pregnant, but no, I don't think they have any kids. If she wants to have kids and yeah, it just depends like what What you want. your priorities are here. Is it making the marriage work? Is it- Is it making the marriage work because you love the marriage?

Right. Or making the marriage work so as not to disappoint your family? Yeah. Third and final, hey Jackson Turdy, need your advice. This is so crazy, okay? My C-section for my second child

is scheduled for the end of March. It happens to be the same day as my sister-in-law's birthday who's in her late thirties. I recently received a very bizarre text message from her going over some of the potential challenges of sharing a birthday. When I read this, I was so confused and then in shock, is she really getting bent out of shape

over having to share her birthday with a future niece? Quick backstory is that I had a very traumatic delivery with my first child. My son and I are very lucky to be here. That being said, I have a lot of nerves and anxiety around this delivery. I did not have much say in the matter of scheduling the C-section.

I went based on the recommendations of my doctor and that's it. Yeah. Do I ignore her texts? Do I let it go? Do I respond back to her? I'm afraid I'm gonna snap because I have zero patience for this selfish and silly text.

It's the last thing I'm worrying about right now, but is it worth causing potential family drama? I would write back, grow up. That's it. Like there is seriously a special place in a mental ward for like older people who are crazy about their birthdays. Like birth week. Oh, I, you, you have until your 21st birthday. I'll have until your 21st birthday. Well, I'll be generous, 21st birthday to act like that. I was gonna say 16, but let's say 20. But even someone who's turning 21

wouldn't mind sharing a birthday with their niece. And it sounds like she's so crazy. There's no way you guys are that close that this day is gonna be a conflict for anyone. And if it were to be a conflict, what a simcha, what a joy, so many birthdays, so many kids, I would a simcha, what a joy, so many birthdays, so many kids. Like I would just write back, grow up.

If it escalates, take all your pregnancy rage out on her. Like you have, we were just doing Maggie bitch wife when you're pregnant, you have carte blanche to do whatever the fuck you want, even when you're wrong. But here you're right. This, I would just, I would go at it for sport. I agree. This is such, and I just want to validate you completely.

This is the craziest thing to say to someone. That's the craziest thing I've ever heard, especially. And I appreciated your backstory, your context. The backstory makes it even crazier, but even if this was none of those things and low risk and whatnot. And your doctor scheduled, imagine if I said, hey, Dr. Fox, can you actually induce me on November 7th?

November 6th is Jackie's birthday. He would be like, okay, freak. Like it's humiliating. Grow up is the perfect response. That's all I would say, grow up. Don't even put a period because that like shows that you're mad, you know? Agreed.

This is such crazy behavior and I would love an update. Also, I did check this morning. We have not received an update from the girl whose husband was taking naked photos of her and those other two wives. I did check. I'm We have not received an update from the girl whose husband was taking naked photos of her and those other two wives. I did check. I'm sure she's still working through it. I'm sure it's been a really difficult time for her

and she will reach out when the time is right. And hopefully in better times. Of course. Oh my God, that just gave me a pit again. I had forgotten like, I remember every Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah, no, same. Well.

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