The Toast - Ben Soffer Celebrity: Tuesday, March 14th, 2023

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everyone's having a splendid, gorgeous, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious day. Speaking of supercalifragilisticexpialidocious girlies, hey girl, how you doing? That's a lot of words. I'm good. That's it, just good. That's one word. That's one word. Such a snitch answer. Yeah, how are you? Good.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Literally, that's that's such a dead end in podcasting. It's giving Hugh Grant. Good. Yeah, it is. It is. That's my energy today. No, I am doing very well. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I'm a little jealous because I heard that you guys are having a snow day and I see you're wearing moon boots and that's just like a vibe I would kill for. I know um it's actually not like a vibey snow day if that makes you feel any better. One because it's a Tuesday so like you know. Two it's like flurries it's like half rain half snow so it's not sticking the floor like the streets are just wet. It's not like a gorgeous white Christmassy vibe. There's really not much for you to feel FOMO about. That's really sweet.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Thanks, Turdy Lou. You always know how to cheer me up. And you know how I feel about the snow in New York. It's heavenly for about 15 minutes. And then it's weeks and weeks of hard brown snow on every corner. Oh, you're going to slip and hurt yourself. Like it's not all it's cracked up to be in the movies. Not a lot of things aren't.
Starting point is 00:01:28 So true. What else? Actually, two stories I wanted to share from Lisbon yesterday that I forgot to share. The first being that I can't believe I didn't even like come on here and tell everyone I was literally hit by a car. Right. No,
Starting point is 00:01:41 right. You sound, I was literally hit by a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That right was like, yeah, sure. Yeah, no, I saw your, I was literally hit by a car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That right was like, yeah, sure. Yeah, no, I saw your story.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I was hit by a car. Because you know, one of my favorite things about traveling abroad, and just not even abroad, like other cities, is they all have that scooter thing. You know, Lime and Bird. It's such a fabulous way to get around town. I've done it in Austin. I did it in Rome.
Starting point is 00:02:01 In Rome, I'm telling you, I saw the whole city in one day. It's so fast to get around. It's really great. So when they had it in Lisbon, I was so excited. And we ended up in this like really busy part of town having lunch and there was so much traffic. We're like, okay, so let's bird back to the hotel. It'll be like fun and it'll be a great way to see more of the city. But Lisbon is like not the type of town built for birds. Like they really shouldn't have them there. It's so hilly, like the craziest inclines. So all four of us, me, Margo, Emily, and Ben are scootering. We're getting up this cobblestone hill.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Me and Ben, like our scooters stop halfway because like, honestly, we weigh too much. Like it couldn't do it. Margo and Emily like make it all the way to the top. We're halfway on this crazy hill and we have to start pushing our scooters. Jackie, I actually cannot imagine like a more hellish endeavor it was giving cardiac hill remember yeah when Jackie and I went to camp there was this truly horrendous hill like one of the worst
Starting point is 00:02:56 hills ever and they called it cardiac hill because walking up it will literally put you into cardiac arrest that's where I was but you know what I didn't let that oh bless you I didn't let that you know dissuade me I'm like I'm still like yeah scooter scooter and then we get to like city center where there's like trains and cars and a millions different crossroads and I'm like starting to panic because there's really nowhere for us to scoot so I'm like literally in the middle of the street and cars are honking at me and this car is coming up from behind me and literally their rear view mirror knocks into me like thank god I wasn't thrown off my scooter because it would have been so much worse I caught myself and thank god also that Emily saw it because I know
Starting point is 00:03:34 everyone else would have been like you're so dramatic you weren't hit by a car but I was fucking hit by a car and that was the time when I'm like listen it's over I'm getting in a taxi I'm parking my bird here and then it was like a no parking zone. I could have went. It was fucking horrible. But I just wanted everyone to know, like I was hit by a car and I live to tell the tale. We're so glad that you could be with us,
Starting point is 00:03:53 Turdy Lou. Like I was bruised. Despite your circumstances. I didn't need to go to the hospital, but like one inch closer, hospital. I'm sure. And then the other story that I think you're going to find hilarious,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I literally had forgotten about it until this morning. So we were out and Ben was talking to like a bunch of the guys about, I think they were just talking about how like Ben can't take a good picture, you know? And one of Ben's like gripes with this world is famousbirthdays.com. That's like, it's like a website
Starting point is 00:04:22 that just has like everyone's birthday on the planet. If you're like a Z-lister, you're on there. So Ben's so upset about the photo they used for his profile on Famousbirthdays.com. On my way. Okay, yeah, check it out. I feel like you need context, too. It's really old. His eyes are half closed.
Starting point is 00:04:38 He's smiling seriously like a fucking freak. He looks literally very good. No. This picture? Oh, maybe they changed it he looks very good because the one that they used forever was the um roast of rob low picture from the red carpet okay so whatever so ben was telling this guy about the photo and he wanted to show the guy the photo that he was referencing so ben googled um ben googled ben soffer celebrity but can you listen to me i keep telling stories you're
Starting point is 00:05:14 seizing you're on your phone you're on your ipad bitch fucking listen to me it doesn't matter just listen i am listening i'm not talking to nobody ben soffer celebrity i'm so excited for what came up so ben googles Ben Soffer celebrity. I'm so excited for what came up. So Ben Googles Ben Soffer celebrity and he finds the photo that he needs. And Ben was like really drunk and he probably could have just Googled Ben Soffer, but like he wrote Ben Soffer celebrity. And so, so whatever the guy sees the picture and they have a laugh about it. But then like an hour later, Ben's talking to another group of guys about how they really all want to go to the Blink-182 concert at USB Arena in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:05:47 So Ben whips out his phone to find the date and they all see Ben Safari, Ben Soffer celebrity as his most recent Google search. These guys, Ben, Jackie, roasted Ben to filth. Ben got in bed. He was so embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:06:02 He was like, I don't know why I Googled that. Like I was drunk and I should have just deleted it. And then everyone saw it and they thought I was googling myself Ben Safar celebrity and I was like listen it's fine it's fine it's horrifying and embarrassing and I'm so glad it wasn't me but it's fine it's horrifying obviously those people and Ben will not be lifelong friends I hope they had a good night together because that was it for them no honestly if like that was me like I would die. I'm so like I was trying to make him feel better but like between
Starting point is 00:06:29 us I'm like that's really bad. That's really bad. I didn't want to like make him spiral more and become more anxious but I was like that's so embarrassing. And then like when you're when you're drunk and you just have even more anxiety about like you know something you did that was weird because you're drunk. yeah but that's for celebrity Ben's offer celebrity now I feel like I have officially recapped my trip to Lisbon but like when I got off the show yesterday I couldn't believe I forgot two of the best stories from Lisbon I was literally hit by a car and Ben might as well have been hit by a car because it was so embarrassing it was emotionally hit by a car I was physically hit by a car Ben was emotionally
Starting point is 00:07:01 hit by a car exactly and I found the roast of Rob Lowe pics. It's not the best of either of us. Honestly, that was my first actually ever red carpet. I talked about it in my book because it was like such a big deal. And I was so insecure, like about everything, my face, my body.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Like I was just like not a happy person physically at that time. And it was a dark day. I actually wore your dress. Yeah. Remember that dress? And like a Zara jacket Zara whatever it's it's honestly like not terrible it's not an embarrassing look like it's uh okay not something that like ages horribly okay thank you like really respectable thank you thank you for saying that what was your like first photographed moment hmm actually I think I know what it is and I'm no no no that doesn't count um okay Thank you. Thank you for saying that. What was your like first photographed moment? Hmm. Actually, I think I know what it is and I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 00:07:47 No, no, no. That doesn't count. Okay. First, like, no, when I like went to something that was a red carpet and had my picture taken. On a red carpet. Maybe OK Magazine. Oh, yeah. That was like one of the worst photos of me ever.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. That's also part of my like saying yes to life philosophy is like I'm really happy with the way I'm looking right now. Like my face is sitting right. You gotta get your pictures and get images. I gotta get my pictures taken so I can replace the ones that exist out there. That's kind of like really,
Starting point is 00:08:16 if I'm being totally transparent with our audience, the impetus behind saying yes to life. I think that that is as good a reason as any. Thank you. Thank you for your support. Yeah. So it's Tuesday. What does that mean to you? It means that we're just easing into this week. We have some fun stories. Nothing crazy. We're not going to change the world, but we're going to talk about a bunch of people doing funny, silly things. Who knows, Jackie? We might change
Starting point is 00:08:44 the world. Don't say that. Yeah, I think every day we change the world in our own small way jackie that's beautiful and at least we're not like destroying the world like so many other entities like we're not contributing to like the negativity and yeah no but like we're not like you know uh a bank that's on the verge of collapse and can't give like right hard-working people their money so true at like we're not like, you know, a bank that's on the verge of collapse and can't give like hardworking people their money. So true. At least we're not a bank. Could be worse things than being a bank. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I feel good about the honest work that we do here. 100 percent, Jax. 100 percent. So that's enough for me. Now tell me, how was world? Oh, he gave us hell last night. He and I have a little cold, both of us. So nothing like crazy, but just enough to make you uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And he was up a lot in the night. So we were up a lot in the night. But he seems great today. Like he's same old Rold. That's so Rold. Like ruin everyone's night. Wake up. Sprightly energy.
Starting point is 00:09:43 What are we doing? What's up? What's up, everyone? I'll have pancakes. Hey guys, get up. It's seven. Come on. Hey mom. so rolled like ruin everyone's night wake up Sprite late energy what are we doing everyone I'll have pancakes hey guys get up it's seven come on hey mom what are you making what are you making for breakfast uh well he did have pancake and I had bagel which he then wanted my bagel I was like no these kids like always taking everything you have desperate for my coffee I'm like yeah I'll leave it here you could have it in 20 years imagine Harry drinking coffee like so cute it's also disgusting your coffee yeah because I just have like Nespresso with half and half it tastes like
Starting point is 00:10:15 coffee that's like a real real coffee right but I know he liked my little cup Chiara Frani X Nespresso and how is LC two? I feel like we haven't spoken about like the baby in your belly. Totally. That's so us. Good. That's so us. Good. You know, just I'm so happy in my second trimester. It's so much more pleasant than my first trimester. I have more energy. I've been running some errands, been driving a little bit. Yeah, our girl got her nails done if you're watching on the youtube I have a manicure for the first time since November shout out and I'm really just excited like I missed having a manicure that like it looks that is 100 perfect not chipped it's just nice chip then I'll be like I miss having bare nails that I didn't have to upkeep
Starting point is 00:10:59 it's just nice to look down at your hands and like not feel ashamed yeah no and I've got nice hands plus like with my pre-natals my nails are growing long and strong and I just nice to look down at your hands and like not feel ashamed. Yeah. No and I've got nice hands plus like with my prenatals my nails are growing long and strong and I just wanted to dress them up since they're looking so gorgeous. Because she's a girl with freedom. She can go where she pleases because she has a license and a Tesla. I have my Tesla and I finally got my charger installed for my Tesla. Oh good. That was holding me back a little bit even though Zach
Starting point is 00:11:25 like did take it to get charged for me um so I had enough battery but it's like now that I have my charger I am completely set like first I got my permit but I still need my license and I have my license but I don't have a car then I have a car but I need someone to drive with me now I and then I have a car but it doesn't have battery so now it's like I still would like when someone drives with me but I need to yeah now you just need a parent or guardian yeah I need a car, but it doesn't have battery. So now it's like, I still would like when someone drives with me, but I need to. Yeah, now you just need a parent or guardian. Yeah, I need a turdy. You need a turdy.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Well, I have a trip planned to come see you. A very quick trip at the end of this month. One day in and out. Just enough time to kiss Roald. Let Kaylor yell at me. And let Levi watch the yelling, the abuse. Um, and then I'm coming back a few days later for a good amount of time.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So Jackson and Claude are going to be back together again. Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait to drive you around in my Tesla. I can't wait to be a passenger princess too. And like being like, you know, you've been quite a distracted,
Starting point is 00:12:21 distracting passenger princess for the many years I've driven you around especially when I was younger and not so confident I mean the only car accident I've ever gotten into was 100% your fault um so I'm excited to be that for you can't wait make content sing choose the music and it's really fun choosing the music in the Tesla it's like a big iPad and just pull up Spotify it's all there it looks like amazing app like it's so amazing I'm so looking forward to the relaxation of being in the passenger seat well it's not like that relaxing because you're still driving with moi yeah it's true you're very tense driver I feel like your shoulders like up by your ears yeah yeah it just depends once I get into a groove it's good and I have to know like where I'm going. I always map out my route, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:06 No, but also having to adhere to a map while you're still like not that comfortable driving. And like you take one second to look to the GPS and you feel like in front of you, like everything's going to crash. Oh, I know. But that's why like the whole time that I'm driving, I figure out where, which, what direction my next turn is. And I stay in that lane the whole time. Of course, of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Unless it's the left lane. Oh, do you not fuck with the left lane like not if i don't have to just because i don't want to slow everyone down right no and then people honk at you and cut you off it's like embarrassing yeah no it's just like i just i don't want to draw attention to myself like i'm not embarrassed that i'm driving the speed limit like i'm really not you should be i'm not'd rather be. Do you not drive below the speed limit? What? Do you drive below the speed limit?
Starting point is 00:13:48 No. Okay. But I'd rather be with people who are more my speed. No, like more, you know, like-minded individuals. Like-minded individuals. Is there anything better? No. No.
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Starting point is 00:17:28 thrivemarket.com slash the toast. Thank you, Turdiloo. You're welcome. First story, a little romance news becoming a little more legit. Kendall Jenner and Bad Bunny dating rumors are heating up as they left the Oscars bash together. Oh, I didn't see this. I thought I saw they went for sushi with a group.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah, there was some group activity. But now Kendall and Bad Bunny were seen leaving Beyonce and Jay-Z's 2023 Oscars after party together on Sunday night, further fueling rumors that they are romantically involved. It's unclear if they arrived together, but they were photographed skedaddling from the soiree in the same vehicle at the end of the evening. While she attempted to cover her face with her hand to avoid the paparazzi, he seemed a little more relaxed around the cameras. Earlier in the evening, she went to Vanity Fair's annual Oscars bash alongside Hailey
Starting point is 00:18:17 Bieber and her sister Kylie. Then it seemed like they were going to an after party. There was an outfit change and they call Kendall from the party bus and they're like, we're here, come out so I think she went with them still to this Beyonce Jay-Z party and then left with Mr. Bunny by the way I'm really obsessed with this pairing like the more photos I see of them together the more I really like think about how they're so perfectly matched from you know fame to looks and I feel like they actually not that I literally know either of them on a personal level, but I feel like their personalities would vibe too
Starting point is 00:18:45 because she's like, chill, cool girl. I like to drink beer. I'm kind of weird and nerdy. And like, I see them being a match. I really do. And I think this is great. I've said it once, I've said it again. Like the family needs something fresh.
Starting point is 00:18:57 They need something right now. And I think this could be it, especially like what if they go to like the Met Gala together? Obsessed if they go to the Met Gala together I really like them as a couple and I do feel like if you're leaving an after party together in the wee hours yeah alone like you're hooking up no for sure and this is like keep in mind you know sharing a car for no but after a few dates so it's not just like they're met at the party and like they're gonna, you know, boink tonight.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But it's like there's a relationship that's brewing. And keep in mind, you know, sharing a car for us mere mortals is a method of convenience. But these people have a surplus of everything. Drivers, cars. So it's a specific thing to share. That means you're going to the same place. Yeah, no. And Kylie had a bus for them.
Starting point is 00:19:44 She could have gotten back on the bus and she didn't. No, like there was so many options for her in terms of transportation, but she chose to drive with Bad Bunny. And I'm choosing to believe that that means something. It does mean something. And it means something really good and hopeful for all of us. Yeah, I like this. You know, for Kendall, I really thought like we were not going to see her like dating anymore because I really thought her and Devin Booker were OTP and while I am still grieving
Starting point is 00:20:08 the loss of that relationship I kind of love like single Kenny like I kind of forgot how before because she was with Devin for a while like she really is like this bachelorette like this gal about town she's you know the it girl of fashion but she's also on reality tv and she just is like she's kind of everything of the sort so you know she dated Harry Styles like she really can can date whoever she wants and like Bad Bunny is very much like upper echelon of like eligible bachelors and Kendall's just out here like pulling guys like this like Bad Bunny and Harry Styles and like it's fun to watch you know as a as a mortal yeah but in the words of Kendall it's none of your business where I throw this pussy. Kendall said that.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. You didn't remember that. That tweet. Throw this pussy. That's what she said. No, but that has to have been like a fake tweet. No, Claudia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 No. Someone was like there was a story about how Kendall had dated like a couple NBA players and someone like commented on it nastily about how she's being passed around by NBA players. Oh, she said they act like I'm not in full control of where I throw this cooch. OK, by the way, that's like my new response to everything. Like when everyone's like, oh, are you on Ozempic? It's literally none of your business where I throw this cooch. Like that's that's literally going to be my go to.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I think I'm gonna change my Instagram bio. But I like to pussy better. No offense. I don't like throw this cooch? Like that's, that's literally going to be my go-to. I think I'm gonna change my Instagram bio, but I liked pussy better. No offense. I don't like the word cooch. No, uh, cooch makes it a little more, a little less pornographic. Yeah. You know? But I like, love, we've had this conversation. I love the word pussy.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Not in the way that like people in porn love the word pussy. And I wish I knew it was cooch. That way I didn't have to have said it. Oh, I like the word pussy. Like like I think it's like so sweet but we had this conversation like three years ago on the toast and the morning toast back then and people were like not agreeing but like we just grew up in a house where the word pussy was like a cute word for vagina like oh little pussy you know. Yeah and like there's been like sort of like she's talked about this tweet before I think because I think people thought that like maybe Khloe wrote it for her or something. She was like, right.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And the sisters were like, no, that is something Khloe would say. Kendall wrote that herself. That's the thing. Like, I feel like we don't really know Kendall. Yeah, because that's a crazy thing to say from the girl that like we thought was just very chill. Right. You know, kind of nerdy. Not like other girls.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. Maybe she isn't like other girls. Sounds like she might not be. Actually, not in an ironic way, but like in an actual way. So it's just a good reminder that she is in control of where she throws that cooch. And perhaps the other night it was thrown in the direction of Bad Bunny. And if it is, even though it's none of our business, I just want to know. I support it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I support it. 100%. And I just think the lesson from today's show is like let's all be in control of where we throw our cooch you know yeah take take take that you know be in control I love that are you ready for our next story uh gobble me swallow me drip down inside of me quick jump up for you let it get inside of me are you ready for our next story which is a twofer of ex-run-ins potential ex run-ins at the oscars i'm obsessed with this obsessed obsessed first austin butler and vanessa hudgens have an awkward run-in at the oscars after party
Starting point is 00:23:14 so unfortunate for vanessa like really could the timing could not have been worse for for her like the universe wanted wanted to ruin her night yeah the actress was caught on video looking down at her phone seemingly in an attempt to avoid eye contact with her ex as she walked past him, Austin Butler, at the Vanity Fair Oscars party. At the time, he was standing next to Sharon Stone waiting for a car outside the swanky event. So he's standing on the curb with Sharon Stone
Starting point is 00:23:39 and they're both tall people already. And Vanessa, our mini queen, is walking in front of them. But I think she's on the street. So she's like already short and now she's shorter. Before she's about to cross in front of them, she sees that it's Austin. So she's looking at her phone. He doesn't see her until she's passed.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And then he sees what had happened. He's like, ooh. Yeah. And it's just so unfortunate because like the area in which they were was actually enclosed. But Sharon and Austin Butler just happened to be standing in like this open area where the paparazzi across the street were filming and taking photos. So not only did we get a film interaction of this like entire awkward moment, there's
Starting point is 00:24:17 also now paparazzi photos of like literally Vanessa beelining across, standing directly in front of Austin Butler and ignoring him. Like it's so unfortunate. Like it's horrible. Yeah, but it's inevitable question mark? Literally. No, but it is like and it's so crazy how when you date someone in the business, like you're going to see them around and it's just wild that they were together for 10
Starting point is 00:24:46 years it's not like it's not nothing any old ex it's literally like an ex-husband yeah no and like when he first got cast as Elvis like it appeared as though they were on decent terms like she was on Kelly and Ryan saying like I've always wanted this for him he had actually like credited her being like it was actually her idea like so it seemed like they were still supporting one another and then slowly but surely like that stopped and then Vanessa recently commented on that meme like making fun of Austin's voice so it's clear that there there is bad blood yeah when at first I thought maybe it was amicable no there's totally bad blood and she's engaged now so that's good for her she walked by with a ring on her finger yeah he's with Kaya Gerber also good for her. She walked by with a ring on her finger.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. He's with Kygerber. Also good for him. It's just fucking awkward no matter how you slice it. No, I know. And it's like, I'm happy for Vanessa that like at least she's like keeping up with him. Like he really left her and like ascended to fame. Like he was a Disney star. The Carrie Diaries.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Sorry, Nickelodeon. The Carrie Diaries when they were together. And then right when they broke up is like when he became this big star of the Carrie Diaries. Sorry, Nickelodeon. The Carrie Diaries when they were together. And then right when they broke up is like when he became this big star at the Oscars. And like, you know, I'm glad she's at the Oscars too. Like, oh, you thought you could ditch me and go to the Oscars? I'm here too, bitch, on my own. Yeah. Like good for her.
Starting point is 00:25:55 At least we have that. Yeah. Well, part B to the story. Someone who wasn't in the mood to see an ex. Rumors are that Tom Cruise missed the Oscars to avoid seeing Nicole Kidman. Yeah. The Tom Cruise allegedly feels the need to stay far away from his ex-wife, Nicole Kidman.
Starting point is 00:26:12 The Top Gun actor was noticeably absent from the 2023 Oscars on Sunday, despite the movie being nominated for six awards and it really being his movie. He was reportedly MIA because he wanted to avoid an awkward run-in with Nicole, whom he divorced more than 20 years ago. A source told the Daily Mail that Tom was not there because she was there,
Starting point is 00:26:30 and he did not want a run-in. But other insiders say that his absence was not personal and instead the result of scheduling issues. What do we think? Well, I think if true, it's entirely possible. The Oscars is Nicole Kidman's domain. Like she's nominated all the time. She's always in shit that's being nominated.
Starting point is 00:26:51 He's like really like not like I know he's a movie star, but he's not like an Oscar like guy. Like that's her area, you know, like that's her territory. Was she nominated this year or in anything that was nominated? I don't know, but it doesn't matter. Like she's queen of the Oscars like she always goes yeah she's been going for the last like 20 years so I could see him like bowing out there's like I feel like nobody even really talks about their marriage like there is so much there clearly there's a lot there if he's avoiding the Oscars because of her but I just I don't know Tom Cruise at all. I don't know him from Adam.
Starting point is 00:27:26 You don't? But I feel like he wouldn't let something like this stop him. Yeah. Especially if it's his movie. It was really his year at the movies. Like everybody's talking about Top Gun. You can't talk about Top Gun without Tom Cruise. I don't think that he was going to like be shy and be like,
Starting point is 00:27:44 no, it's awkward. He's also 60. I don't think that he was gonna like be shy and be like no it's awkward he's also 60 I don't think 60 year olds get awkward that is true and I do agree I think personality wise I think what we know about him like from Scientology he's like he's like a beast like he doesn't back down from a thing yeah he does his own stunts he can't see his ex on the carpet no that's totally fair and totally a really good way of looking at it he doesn't seem like the type of guy to back down from like a potentially uncomfortable like like if he wants to do something he's fucking Tom Cruise like he gets it done you know he thinks he's like toxic male yeah he's not like scurrying around Nicole Kim in 20 years after their yeah divorce is Tom Cruise single I was just
Starting point is 00:28:21 wondering that I he's publicly single like he's not yeah publicly in a relationship but he's gotta like have I don't know how I mean I know he's like rich and famous but I don't know how anyone would want to be with him like when you look at Katie Holmes and Nicole Kidman like how they both ran from him and like how serious and like deadly their divorces are. He seems so toxic. Like the Scientology of it all had Nicole's, their kids together, Nicole and Tom's kids don't talk to Nicole because she left Scientology.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. Like that's like, that's, but he could date a Scientologist. Just, yes, he could. I guess if you're like into Scientology,
Starting point is 00:29:02 that's like the most eligible bachelor out there. King of the universe. That's like the bad bunny yeah yeah i guess can't relate he's also like not cute there's a lid for every pot turdy lou oh my god ain't that the truth i mean buster myrtle has a girlfriend so if you're out there you know feeling like there's no hope for you just know there is yeah because. Because that freak, not only is he like the weirdest looking motherfucker of all time, but his family, he has a girlfriend. So keep going on those apps.
Starting point is 00:29:33 It's going to happen for you. It is going to happen for you. There's that's so true. There is a cover for every pot. Yeah. Carraway.com slash toast 10. And at Carraway, it's not like one of those pots where you can never find the cover.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Like mine, it's just like so clear which one's the right one. So true. So true. Between Carraway and Thrive Market, like you're going to have an amazing meal. Oh, I could use an amazing meal. What are you going to have for lunch today? So I don't know about lunch, but I'm actually was going through my cookbooks this morning
Starting point is 00:29:57 looking for a dinner recipe. And what'd you land on? I haven't found something that like looks like what I'm craving. I got to get into another book. I've actually been thinking like today I'm going to switch up my lunch. Because I was saying yesterday like I ate so poorly in Lisbon. I'm trying to have like actually like nutritious meals. And I feel like I really need some roughage.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I still haven't made a poo. Yeah. But I can't really eat a salad. Like that's just not how I was built. But I'm thinking a wrap. Wrap is so good. What about a smoothie? It's such a good way to like
Starting point is 00:30:26 shove lettuce into things like I'll make a smoothie and like I'll put so much spinach in it but when you blend up spinach it tastes like nothing it's like green water and then you add all the good flavors it's like oh my god I just had three cups of spinach maybe yeah maybe I'll think about it like I really I think a wrap is a good place to start for me yeah for lunch maybe a smoothie for snack maybe maybe with like a little protein I for you actually you get a lot of you probably have more protein than me in your day you're chicken at every meal oh yeah no I'm not my protein I'm good yeah no protein's a concern for me I don't use protein powder though roughage no I don't know her yeah maybe I'll get into like a half-baked harvest book because I want to I want to do I've been feeling like I get so many reels cooking videos and like chicken is just not what
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm feeling right now meat not at all tomato base not really either but like you know a light salad like an orzo salad you know what I mean I feel like HBH has some good recipes I need to do my get into it I need to do my into it I need to do my research and then that's going to be my outing for the day is going to get the ingredients for my dinner because I'm trying to drive every day that's good yeah that's good that's really good thanks turdy Lou glad you approve yeah well are you ready for our next story is it our what is it our third it's our third yeah I'm ready tyler cameron revealed he was only had two hundred dollars when he was dating gg hadid so this interview is going viral because
Starting point is 00:31:53 tyler cameron cameron is talking about one when he dated gg and i don't think he's ever gone into such detail and two he's talking about the financial aspects of dating gg hadid when he just came off of a reality show right the reality star enjoyed a brief two-month romance with Gigi in 2019 shortly after his stint on The Bachelor he appeared on Monday's episode of the podcast Trading Secrets and he disclosed his lack of finances at the time so Jason said quote he goes to me dude I don't know what the fuck I'm doing I've got five thousand dollars in my bank account I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I've got $5,000 in my bank account. I don't know what my next job is. And I'm dating Gigi Hadid. Tyler corrected him and said, not even $5,000.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I had like $200. You know what I mean? He said, I'd be going on dates. Like this is in my early days of living in New York City. I'm living on Matt's beanbag. I have no money, but I'm like the happiest I've ever been. Cause like the world is wide open to me in New York City. I can do whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:32:43 He recalled calling his dad from the bathroom to ask him for money to pay for the date he was on. I can do whatever I want. He recalled calling his dad from the bathroom to ask him for money to pay for the date he was on. I'd be going on dates. I'm like calling up pops in the bathroom. I'm like, pops, I don't think my credit card's going to go through. I need you to send me money right now. That's so cute. And he's like, you got it, son.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So go get it. Oh. Jason asked, when you want to date with Gigi, you only have $200 to your name. How do you pay for it? Do you ever have a story? Like, how are you managing that? Tyler explained that you're just crossing your fingers at this point.
Starting point is 00:33:10 At this point, I don't even know what a credit card is. I got a straight debit card. So when you hit zero, you hit zero. Yeah, you know, I'm just crossing my fingers, hoping it swipes and it just keeps swiping. No, that's so funny. I've often wondered about the logistics of when Tyler was dating Gigi but I'm not I'm less focused on the financials of it all I'm so curious about the funeral like that's to me one of the great wonders of the world it's like who what when where why how
Starting point is 00:33:36 did Tyler Cameron who was like literally been on three dates with a girl ended up flying to the Netherlands for her grandma's funeral like Like, the questions just are endless. Yeah. You know, they're both single right now, sort of. Yeah. Wasn't, Gigi was linked to Leo. But then Leo was linked to. Then Leo was linked to that child.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah. Then she went back home, I think. And now Gigi. But then they were also. And Leo, they keep saying they're at the same parties, but like everybody's at the same party. But there are only so many parties for cool people yeah yeah no i don't know if they're together but they are still they are both single right now but i feel like they weren't gg and tyler weren't like otp it was really like a moment in time flash in the pan
Starting point is 00:34:18 like you had to be there you know yeah but what's also funny is like she's obviously so successful he just came off i'm sure she didn't know the extent of his finances but what's also funny is like she's obviously so successful. He just came off. I'm sure she didn't know the extent of his finances, but it's like she's still not paying for the date. No, by the way, and you know what? I respect that about Gigi Hadid. She's a woman who wants to be taken care of. Like your financial situation is irrelevant to me.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You're paying for dinner. Like that, I am truly on my way to becoming one of the world's richest women. Oh, you don't have a pot to piss in or a bed to sleep in? Let's go to Carbone. Figure it out. Yeah, no. You'll find a way. We stand, you know, she's a traditional chivalrous queen.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah. Obviously, Tyler's in a better financial situation now, which is, you know, good for him. Yeah, and it's good that he can look back on that time and just not like focus on, you know, the stress of the finances of it all. But really like it makes sense that it was the happiest time for him.
Starting point is 00:35:07 He was like on top of the world. He's dating Gigi, like he's beloved. He's moved to New York City. His life changed in an instant. The world really opened up to him. Like I imagine it was so exciting and he was just like ready to grab life by the balls. Right, because before the show,
Starting point is 00:35:21 he was like working in construction in Florida, like lived a very happy, simple life. And then within like a couple of weeks, he was a nationwide superstar, like known by everyone. And then on top of that, to not only come out on top from the franchise, but then to get to take it to another level that nobody had ever done before, which is like dating a celebrity, not only a celebrity, like the world's biggest supermodel. How could that not be the happiest time of your life yeah you know yeah so just fun factoids from behind the scenes Jason Tardik is always getting people to like open up about how much money they have or had on his podcast I did his podcast once you should check it out it's a good episode I didn't I don't reveal anything I don't I'm not into this I'm not into this whole culture like
Starting point is 00:36:03 demanding financial transparency from everyone. Like you want to be transparent about what you make? Love that for you. Don't fucking ask me, bitch, because I'm not telling you. Yeah, there are some things that are just timeless. I think not talking about money is one of them. I think there's times where it's beneficial,
Starting point is 00:36:18 but like it's not a prerequisite for existing. No, there's times where it's beneficial, especially in like really corporate environments where like they don't allow you to talk about your salary so that you don't make more. Like that's toxic. I get that. No, but that's not what people on TikTok
Starting point is 00:36:34 are demanding of others. No, what people are demanding in this culture is like total financial transparency about everything, especially for influencers. It's like, girl, mind your own fucking business. Yeah. Like just know I'm never going to tell you. Ever.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Ever. Because you know what? I'm gatekeeping. Sure. That's what they call it now. No, I mean, that's what you're gatekeeping. That's what they call it. No, I'm saying that's what they call it.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Because you're not going to help other women. How's that going to help anyone? Why is it my job to help other women? No, but why would that help another woman? How does that help another woman? Explain it. Like, to let her know her worth, I guess? No, your it's safe your podcast your worth is your listeners not because you're a woman yeah no I just like I like not to be like let's be really honest it's gonna be probably one
Starting point is 00:37:14 of those honest things I say like when I get up every morning like I'm looking out for me and only me like I cannot bear the brunt of having to like help other women you know but I but even if you could bear the brunt like that's just dishonest to say that Claudia should share this information because it would help other women it wouldn't it really really wouldn't no that's not to say like let's say there was a woman one of those people who just said I know I know why does that happen to me only on the show? I heard it. Like it's someone's messing with me. I just want to clarify, like that's not to say like if there is a what like if there is a person what's with women?
Starting point is 00:37:52 There's a person who helped me. I help them. But I'm just not out here helping for the sake of helping. I'm not that person. And it's like if you go to like a dinner with like one to one with influencers, spying influencer, and they're like starting out like in that situation you can be helpful like girl you are not getting paid what you deserve of course and by the way it's worth noting I do that a lot like people I find people like are always asking
Starting point is 00:38:14 me for like advice and stuff again and I'm more than happy to give it what the public is asking you to do on tiktok yeah no the public is like you have to make a video and tell everyone what you got paid for every single thing and how much you pay in taxes every year. And that's going to help women, Turdy Lou. Don't forget it. Right. And I don't support women if I don't do that. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Maybe I don't support women because I've met some of you and you're the worst. And that's just like not what it takes to support women. But no, no. I've said this once. I'll say it again. And I've kind of been like really kind of refining my thesis on the whole women supporting women thing. And I just think it's worth mentioning like I support people and it's worth mentioning that some of the most vile human beings I've ever met in my life were women I would say all of them were
Starting point is 00:38:57 um so I'm not just going to be out here blanket supporting women because like what have you said about me those people right what have you said about me question mark yeah so I'm just I'm like always refining that thesis about women supporting women it's changing all the time you know just like be that's where I'm at be a decent person period like right and then I will I'll do anything for you yeah no but like you're a person you're not just gonna get my support and my advice because you're a woman no that doesn't mean anything to me yeah are you a good person are you charitable are you kind are you generous question mark are you ready for our next story question mark if it's the next story that's brought to you by perfect Bar, exclamation point.
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Starting point is 00:42:48 and free shipping on every order, Nutrafol.com. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our next story, Avril Lavigne tells a topless woman to get the fuck off the stage at the Juno Awards. Queen. Avril Lavigne smoothly handled a topless protester at the 2023 Juno awards monday by
Starting point is 00:43:05 telling the woman to get the fuck off the stage the singer had been introducing her performer ap dylan during the canadian awards show when the woman crashed the stage with a message written on her back save the green belt initially avril ignored the protester but then turned around and swatted at her chest as she said get the fuck off and added one more time get the fuck off bitch a male security guard then escorted the woman off the stage it wasn't made entirely clear if or immediately clear if she was kicked out of the venue entirely though i would thought she would this evening's host marvel star simu lu later comp and um selling sunset star simu lu yeah later complimented the punk rocker
Starting point is 00:43:45 for handing the topless lady like a champion. Ugh, I just fucking hate people who do shit like this. Whether you're doing it like, just because you like to do pranks or because you're protesting something, like I don't give a shit. If you are disturbing and being like a public menace, I fucking hate you.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Like I always think about that YouTuber who's like, I think he's Italian. He's like in Milan. And his thing is like, he'll go to celebrities and pick them up. Have you seen him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I fucking hate that guy. Like I wish bad things on him. Like I fucking hate people who do shit like this. Either for attention. She was clearly protesting something. And you know what? I don't fucking care. That's like, that's what you're- And now I'm inclined to side with whatever you're protesting no and
Starting point is 00:44:29 now I'm inclined to destroy the green belt as opposed to saving it yeah I think there's been a lot of recently like climate protests that are so fucking dumb the art stuff they're like throwing olive oil on the Mona Lisa which they're all protected and they don't wind up doing any damage whatsoever. And it's like, what did you do for your cause? Because now we all just hate you. Hate you. Perfectly said. Like, what did you do for your cause?
Starting point is 00:44:54 We all just fucking hate you. And you know what? I hate your cause too. And I'm so impassioned by you being such a menace that I'm going to do everything in my power to actively work against your cause. Like, I don't even care what your fucking cause is. Yeah. I hate people like this like remember that girl it's different because some people do it for like a cause which I think is counterintuitive and stupid but some people just do it like for pranks like that girl who literally hopped the stage at the Chanel fashion show in Paris all those years ago and like Gigi Hadid literally threw her off the stage I hate people like that like to I really just can't like I can't
Starting point is 00:45:28 one thing that'll never be me yeah no pranking for prank sake is also one of my least favorite things probably worse it's probably worse really because I think it depends on the prank like I think that that Chanel runway thing was like annoying and stupid but like kind of harmless harmless victimless yeah and because it was handled so well and stupid but like kind of harmless harmless victimless yeah and because it was handled so well it just is like kind of like a funny anecdote maybe if it you know they were chasing around the stage it ruins the show whatever could have gone another way um but just pranks for pranks sake like I think it's so stupid beyond but also pray like whatever this is stunt protesting for your cause also stupid
Starting point is 00:46:08 no but also like it's an award show like there are probably minors there and you have your tits out like stop right oh we didn't mean to talk about the tits of it all and then like the security guard has to get her off the stage but she's like but he can't touch her right yeah no like but claudia you have to support women including including this one. Right, right. Thus bringing me back to my aforementioned thesis. But this woman doesn't support Avril. So now what? Now what do we do? The girls are fighting.
Starting point is 00:46:33 No, I just hate shit like this. And it's so layered as to why it's problematic. Like one, just stop. Two, like you can't be naked in public. I'm sorry. Like we live in a civilized society. This is a music award show. I'm sure there's not a lot of kids there, but they're probably, they don't even see your fucking tits, okay'm sorry. Like we live in a civilized society. This is a music award show. I'm sure there's not a lot of kids there,
Starting point is 00:46:46 but they're probably, they don't even see your fucking tits. Okay. Stop. She is wearing pasties. Doesn't matter. Oh my God. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I just hate, Avril handed it like a champ. I will say the security guard was very slow to react. And then when he, once he got up there, like he couldn't really do much because she was naked. So it was like a tough position for him to be in. But I definitely think it could have been handled a little better. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I'm just hope that Avril was able to find solace in the arms of her boyfriend, Tyga. Hopefully. That's all you can hope for. A girl can dream. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 We got to have some Bravo news in here. Yeah, we have to. It's been such a big month for Bravo. And everybody wants every scrap of an update. And we both found this interesting because you sent me this clip. Ow! What?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Oh my God, I just knocked my microphone into my chin. Oh my, that hurts so bad. Like really hard. I'm okay. First the car and now this. Turdy, you have to take care of yourself I know I'm I'm bruised listen to your body my body's saying take a nap always Andy Cohen issues a PSA for the upcoming Prompter Whirls episode he said you won't believe it Andy Cohen has issued a PSA over the shocking
Starting point is 00:48:01 upcoming episode of Vanderpump Whirls as the fallout from Scandaval continues to unravel. He said Bravo fans are not going to believe that Wednesday's episode, tomorrow, has not been edited since the news of the affair came to light. He said, there is something I want to say. Guys, you're going to watch Wednesday's episode. You are going to think that it was recut, okay? It was not recut. This is the episode. He warned that fans are going to be shocked to hear a conversation between Raquel Lala and Katie as he promised viewers that the footage was not touched he said I watched it on my sick bed Wednesdays the episode that's going to air in two days now it's tomorrow I watched it and I was like people are going to think we did this or move stuff up the conversations that go
Starting point is 00:48:40 on between Katie and Lala and Raquel are not to be believed in light of what has come out. This is how it was going to be shown, which makes it all the more shocking. You won't believe it. Right. I'm curious what, what it is and what we would have thought if we didn't know this. Like, but when I heard this, I was so excited. I actually am having like a little viewing party tomorrow night. All my friends are coming over. I'm like, guys, we have to, we have to watch. Oh god look at you well I just want to say one thing yeah if I may because I I heard this clip and then like a few hours later I had this thought which is that we saw this um preview for the episode where Raquel says to Lala like well good thing you don't have a man to bring around that way like Raquel won't be
Starting point is 00:49:20 fucking around with him yeah but in this moment you do have to remember that Raquel just found out that Lala hooked up with James while she was dating James so I think there is a little bit of resentment where it's like oh if you had a man to bring around right now and I'm single like you know just give you a taste of your own medicine so actually so true Lala has actual like nerve to say that given what she did to Raquel and James. Just that one conversation on its own, like a little bit. I feel like Raquel is pissed at Lala. Like you hooked up with my boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah. If you had one, you better be shitting your pants to bring him around. Oh, you know what? You're so right. But if I will be shocked by the conversation between the three of them if anything about like Sandoval or Schwartz is mentioned but when it comes to the Lala thing it's like we can't forget that Lala just admitted to hooking up with James while Raquel was dating him for years engaged to him and like she still is like heartbroken over the relationship and just like a mess over it so like yeah not to give her a pass for saying anything but just that one line like when
Starting point is 00:50:25 you put in that context and like I feel like she said it as a way to get back at her do you know what I mean no by the way you're 100% right I totally forgot about that part because it's layered and once you add the layers it all kind of makes sense like she's entitled to be a little bitchy but Andy said there's a conversation not just that one thing so you know I don't I don't think that's what they're, he's referring to. It has, it has to mention Sandoval. Like if that's what Andy's being so dramatic about.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait. Like the way I've been so reinvigorated, like I, I, I get, like I get into bed every night and I put on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Like, I'm just like, I'm always eating up. Like Watched Happens Live has been so good because there's so much going on in real time and the shows are so delayed. And it's just, it's very exciting. Oh, I did watch Summer House last night. Right, I figured you were going to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Let's hear what's going on. Let me tell you, it's really not good. And Danny Pellegrino actually had like a whole Twitter thread about it and I shared it on my Instagram because it's so right. It's like, we're at a place where like a lot of these people on the show have been on the show for so long and they have these established dynamics and they have friends and they have people they fucking hate and they're no longer like playing pretend with the people they hate like Amanda and Lindsay don't get along Paige and Lindsay don't get along and maybe a few years
Starting point is 00:51:35 ago that would have been a storyline like why aren't we friends like let's make up but like neither of them care like they're just not friends period and there's such a gap between like the old people and the new people like Gabby and Sam who are like in their early 20s and young and fabulous and like Kyle who's 40 like Danny Pellegrino said it best he said Kyle is older than Jason Hoppy and Bethany Frankel were when they had their show Bethany Getting Married like let's put that into perspective why are imagine if they were in the summer house exactly that's what it is so it's, I don't know, it's not giving the way it needs to give. I just feel like so many people are checked out.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Like Paige and Ciara have literally done and said nothing. Like they feel so checked out. It's not working, this group dynamic. I feel like they're hitting a place where like Vanderpump Rules hit before all this happened. Where it was like old people, young people, we don't know what to do. And it felt like this huge disconnect between the group. The drama, like I'm actually confused like like I don't get it and you know what everyone and basically like Danielle blew
Starting point is 00:52:31 up a tally at night because she said she didn't trust Amanda and then like Amanda started you know fighting with Lindsay and Danielle and Danielle started the whole thing and she just kind of like watched everything burn down and then she starts screaming at Carl for not defending Lindsay and like you know what first of all stay out of other people's business like she's so mad this episode because like Lindsay and Carl they're out at a bar and Lindsay and Carl are just like hugging and making out all the whole time and she's like well what about me I'm like that's fucking weird you have a boyfriend you're 30 years old like get a grip yeah so she's just like inserting herself and it's clear like this is where the divide is starting to happen because we know Lindsay and
Starting point is 00:53:01 Danielle aren't friends anymore so she's starting to like you know talk to Paige and Sierra and Amanda about how you know they're moving too fast Carl and Lindsay she's just being like a really bad fucking friend no but she's so extreme it's like I either need to be I need to burn this whole house down to defend you with you or I'm gonna talk shit about your relationship yeah like oh oh I'm mad everyone needs to know or like I'm riding for you I'm gonna burn this house down with my love for you like she's so extreme she's honestly like a like a terrible reality star because she's so inconsistent and up until this point she has not had a storyline about her everything up until this point has revolved around her being Lindsay's mouthpiece and like it's
Starting point is 00:53:39 actually getting annoying yeah so this two weeks ago was like not a great episode and then this week was not a great episode either I don't know why Andrea is not a full-time cast member I don't know why literally this guy Chris who isn't you know the most interesting person is the only single guy in the house like it's so weird this is a very weird season yeah I think I feel like they need a shake up and that's kind of what saved Summer House the first time. They brought in all these new people. And I feel like unless it's a show with a magical cast like the Jersey Shore that just keeps regenerating itself, when you have this sort of premise, you do need to keep it fresh.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And the problem is that so many people are fan favorites because you know them over the years and you love them, but they don't like give much to the show. Because also it's like at this point, why do I want to ruin my reputation? They have too much to lose. They've all started businesses. They're all successful influencers. And it's like, I like being liked by the fans. I don't want to get in the mud.
Starting point is 00:54:38 A hundred percent. And like the thing with the Jersey Shore, which is a great example, is like there was so much drama because it was every night back to back, out all night, out all night, new couples, new hookups. And like they're trying to make it seem like they're partying a lot. But like they go to the club and then they put the time stamps like they got home at 1130. Like they're really not. It's not like a summer share house party. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:54:59 But like they're pretending like it is. Yeah. But also like Jersey Shore is a really good formula, you know, a summer share house with people who are down to clown, but they just hit the lottery with the cast. Yeah. It was ever. Everyone was a star. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:14 And like the interpersonal relationships like that, Ronnie and Sam, you know, took off, but like Mike was kind of always in love with Sam. And then we had like, like the little J wow. Vinny and Snooki. Vinny and Snooki.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Pauly and JWoww hooked up. Yeah and there would always be those like underlying things they were always friends and then other people would like come in Roger Gianni. Roger. But it would always be like oh you know but Pauly hooked up with like it was just ripe yeah no it was I could literally write a dissertation on the beauty of Jersey Shore like it is the perfect show yeah and I'm honestly so grateful to have been influenced by it in my youth honestly I am who I am because of that show yeah and the people and the cast they were all just like so themselves so they had nothing to lose nothing to lose even as the show got, they still didn't have anything to lose because they were so rewarded for being themselves.
Starting point is 00:56:09 You know? Yeah. No, and nobody like stopped getting involved in the drama because they all started making a lot of money. Like if anything, the money encouraged them to be even worse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It was such a good show. Yeah. No, a summer house is not a Jersey shore. It never will be. But also like the Hamptons are also just like not like that. No, Summer House is not a Jersey Shore. And never will be a Jersey Shore. But also like the Hamptons are also just like not like that. No, it's true. It's like more of a classy affair.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Like you don't act that way. No. I mean, people do. But it's something's not working. And at the beginning of the season, I was like, oh, this is good. But the longer we go, like this measly drama is like not enough to sustain a whole plot. And if something's not working, something's got to give.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. I honestly feel like, and this is not a statement on, on Amanda. Cause I really like her, but I do feel like it might be Kyle and Amanda's time. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Like they've been the center of the show the whole time and it's worked. And now they're just at a place where it's like, they're married. They're focused on their business. They're really not. Kyle like gets drunk and says crazy things just so he's like still a core part of the show not because it's like a a true feeling but it's like he would be better suited to just like act his age and and step into like an a mentor sort of role it'd be better for like i think his self it'd be better for his business it'd be better
Starting point is 00:57:26 for the show and nobody wants to watch like a 40 year old no like staying up till three in the morning with a bunch of 21 year olds it's so weird actually really I really like the new girls though I think they have a lot of potential like Gabby's very funny for sure but what's a bunch of great new girls without great new guys thank you thank you it's really weird it's bizarre it shouldn't I know it's definitely harder to cast funny interesting party guys like girls are always just like more is more but my god to give us one new guy and take away those two I even would have taken that mute Alex from last year like it's literally not that hard it's not hard there's so many people who want to be on tv there's especially like in New Yorkork that are like fake influencery they definitely need a gay guy for sure yeah and they need more single guys for the girls
Starting point is 00:58:11 yeah no it's really not that hard like it's not no rocket science it should always be like an equal somewhat equal you're equal four and four it's literally like 11 to two. It's crazy. It's fucking weird. Yeah. And doesn't like Chris feel weird being in that house with like a bunch of girls? Like at least Kyle is married to one, but like. No, I think it's weirder for Kyle to be in a house with a bunch of girls. Yeah, I guess. Chris is like, this is awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. Yeah. It's not weird for, I don't think Kyle feels weird, but I find it weird that he's there. Something's not working. That's my don't think Kyle feels weird, but I find it weird that he's there. Something's not working. That's my thesis of the day. Okay, cool. I could see how that is true. Yeah.
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