The Toast - Benedict Ray Cyrus: Tuesday, January 21st, 2025

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the shows and happy Tuesday. That has, you know, a different kind of energy because it's the first day of the week, but it's not a Monday and it's 11 degrees and it's just, it's unique. It feels like a Monday, but it's a Tuesday, which is bless up.

So fabulous. So your prayers to the sky. Hopefully this means the week will go by quickly. Not to rush things along. Not to rush your life along. That I find unoffensive. Yeah, but you don't want to rush through things, even though something really exciting

is happening next week, but you don't want to rush through things. Turdys moving. I meant to acknowledge, thank you for opening up the space for me. This is my final full week in this studio, which has housed us for so many years. And I'm not even remotely sad,

but I feel we must acknowledge this monumental moment. Yes, it is our longest running studio that we've had. It is? We moved in in 2020, we took refuge after being evicted. On the boots of an eviction. In the midst of coronavirus. Who remembers Turtee and Jack's eviction era? That was probably one of my most fun times.

No, that wasn't a fun time. Before that, when we were in that apartment, things were busing. And then not only were we evicted, we had to go to Zoom toast dark times. So this studio was our saving grace. And we had so many amazing memories in that studio, so many wonderful shows, both together and remote.

And it deserves to be honored in a respectful way. It's true. We saw refuge here and it was a home to us but nobody else would have us. And while I am really excited because my new studio is so much closer to my house. And I don't know if I mentioned that it's 11 degrees today. I wanna put, you're right, some honor and some respect on these four walls, you know?

These four walls came down around us. Do you remember that Miley Cyrus song? Yes, of course. Must've been something sent me out of my head. Oh, speaking of songs, I meant to text you this morning because we haven't, the Toast theme song competition is completely over. Yes, that was on my notes of things to discuss

because we have not, you and I, officially selected the winner. So if you haven't been reached out to, no one has yet. I really, I have still two top twos in my head. Okay, I chose my winner. Like we'll vote. They've been stuck in my head. We will vote, but I'm sending you a picture of the girl, like who's my winner, okay? Okay, I'll my winner. Like we'll vote. They've been stuck in my head. We will vote, but I'm sending you a picture of the girl, like who's my winner, okay?

Okay, I'll know who it is. It's between, it's the same as my top two. I think so. It's not like a third, right? No, no, no, no. Like we, I had three that I was like mulling over that were like, I wouldn't have been happy with any of them.

You saw who I texted you? I see it, yeah. Like it's her, it's always been her. I'm sorry, it's her. Yeah. So we will reach out to her privately, you know, get the paperwork sorted out and then we will announce

and then we have to start the process of recording it. I've already booked studio time with the fabulous producer who produced the Grammy award winning song, a hundred percent by Claudia Oshrey. So we're in really good hands and people seem really excited. I know you haven't seen the fanfare because it's all on TikTok and we are going to talk about TikTok,

but like people are so invested in the winner because I did admit to TikTok last night. I was like, it's over. Like, I think I know who I want to win. Like, who do you guys wanna win? And a lot of the same names were circulating, which like my top three seemed to be the internet's top three, which made me feel good.

But also we have given away that it is a singular person and that it's not a man. So in just our conversation, we've given that away. Oh my God, fucking pronouns, you're right. Yeah, so- Shit, I really wanted to- That tells you a little something. No, people are so invested.

My friend Sam stayed with me this weekend. We had such a fun weekend. And her sister called, because her sister is a huge toaster and she was with her camp friends and they're all toasters. And they were calling to try and find out what I was leaning towards. They're like, have you heard this one? And they're all singing it.

Jackie, the people coming out of the woodwork, first of all, random people text me being like, I'm dying from this competition. And to people I know, Shannon is so invested being like, I'm getting DMs from local national songwriters wanting to make sure that you guys see. Guys, I've seen every submission, don't worry about me. My screen time this weekend,

for a million reasons, was so fucking high. I saw every single submission, don't you worry. My screen time this weekend for like a million reasons was so fucking high. Like I saw every single submission. Don't you worry. My screen time this weekend was so high. So many things were happening. And I have to think like, this was the biggest weekend in news like ever. I have never turned on like cable news. Really, I rarely ever do.

This weekend, like it was constantly playing in the back of my house for one reason or another, like the hostages coming home. Yesterday, the inauguration, waiting all day for rascal flats. TikTok. TikTok. Like I had the news, like the news channels coming home yesterday, the inauguration waiting all day for rascal flats. Tick tock. Tick tock. Like I had the news,

like the news channels must be really happy. People turned on their little shows. Yeah. Media is a buzz and that's what we do here. We are women in media. So we're breaking it all down. Are we making tick tock a story? Or should we talk about it now? No, we are not making tick tock a story.

Oh, okay. Like, I like how you said that. I guess if it was stupid, like why? No, because, because like the stories are like the fun fat or not like world news. And two, we always keep putting into the pre fast five. Okay, okay.

Well, let me tell you my experience this weekend then. Cause I'm, and I wonder if other people are feeling this way, like, and I'm a big advocate, like I love TikTok. It's my favorite place on the planet. It's literally my personality. Like this affected me. I was directly in the line of fire. And I'm like really getting to the point

where these people are making me kind of like, hate TikTok and like not care anymore. It's giving fatigue. It's giving will they, won't they? Because on Saturday night, like there was a lot of hoopla. They had said they were gonna shut down operations as opposed to just like taking it out of the app store. And they did.

So it was kind of like this crazy historic thing. I was with a bunch of girls on Saturday night and like I opened TikTok and it was 10 30. It wasn't even midnight and they closed down early. You were making a herstory. It was really crazy. So it was like, it was, it was just this like exciting, not in a positive or negative way,

but just like an exciting thing to be a part of. And it was really crazy to see like how the media landscape was shifting, how people were talking about it, where people were going. And it coming back less than 24 hours later was seriously like one of the lamest things anybody could have done. Like it was so pick me, so like attention seeking.

I was just, when it came back, I wasn't even like relieved. And I missed it. Like I was, do you know how many times I opened TikTok in that 14 hour span? Like when it came back, I was like, wait, no, like go back. It was just not, it wasn't giving, it wasn't gone long enough. And first of all, I saw such like really crazy content from people like crying, sobbing, screaming, crying,

throwing up, like it really kind of put into perspective for me, like we actually, as a society, could have used a break. And I think we actually could have used more than 14 hours, like give it 24 perhaps, like just so people could perhaps reset and touch grass. So, oh, and now that it's back, like people are like, it's different. TikTok's not the same.

Like, and I feel like we hyped it up so much because I actually know what people are talking about. Like it's not hitting in the way that it did before because it was going away. So we were all excited. Now it's just this like thing, like. It's used. Yeah, like I people are,

and like Bethany Frankl is like starting to conspiracy that it's about the drones. She's like, I'm not seeing any more content about the drones. Like a lot of people are and like Bethany Frankles like starting a conspiracy that it's about the drones She's like I'm not seeing any more content about the drones like a lot of people are thinking like Chinese Communist Party like I Don't think it's that I just think it's like psychological like we hyped this thing up so hard and then it came back and it's just in a half like with dumb videos like I It just it's been really crazy like and I actually I'm kind of over like the whole conversation I don't even care anymore and not me telling everyone like because you know, I'm kind of like a social media expert You know't even care anymore. And not me telling everyone, because I'm kind of a social media expert. So when I was with a bunch of my friends on Saturday,

they're like, do you think it's gonna come back? Like, what do you think? And I was so adamant. I'm like, there's no way Trump is gonna bring it back. This was his thing. He hates TikTok. He hates China. This is like the Trump thing.

And I'm like, guys, it's definitely not being so, speaking with such conviction, cut to literally three hours later, it's back up. Like I'm embarrassed. He has said recently that he didn't want it to go away. He said more recently, like, yes, four years ago, he said like national security issues. Then more recently he was like,

we want to make, find a way to make it work. Yeah, no, I was just like speaking with like the utmost conviction. I think people like, you know, like they respect what I say when it not comes to everything obviously, but like TikTok, like, yeah, what she knows probably. And I was like, guys, it's not coming back.

Like say your goodbyes. Travis has never met Taylor. Correct. It's giving Travis has never met Taylor. Well, I thought it was coming back imminently. I did not expect it to only be 14 hours. So on that, I wasn't right either. The whole thing was just like really lame for everyone.

Really lame and exhausting and seeing the same content like from every individual over and over again, like of them saying goodbye. The screenshot of TikTok, me. The screenshot of TikTok. Oh my God, adjusting to Reels. Hey, how y'all doing? When it comes back, like I am moved on.

Fatigued, for sure. And like, as for the future of TikTok, like genuinely, I don't care anymore. Like they've officially made me not care, which I guess is good. Yeah. And I think let this be a lesson to people who make a living on TikTok,

whether that's like through TikTok shop or your content creator, diversify your platforms. We have 90 days now, that's three months. Like really get to work because this is a platform that is like kind of finicky, like it's here, it's there, it's not there, it's China, it's America. Like you've been given a warning.

So now you have three months to hustle. We could do YouTube, we can bring it on Reels. Come on over to Reels, the water's warm. The more time you spend on Reels, the better it gets for you. I think that's what people are noticing. And this was my biggest disappointment because I feel like it was such a wasted opportunity

for Instagram because we have known for like a real month now that like TikTok has this date. And the fact that Instagram didn't do what they usually do and just copy TikTok's algorithm, their format, everything. We would have moved over. Like if it was even remotely similar, it wouldn't have been such a big deal for TikTok to go. But like when Instagram came out with Instagram stories,

like we were all like, oh, this sucks. And then we all just eventually transitioned over and stopped using Snapchat stories. They do this thing where they copy everyone and we all make fun of them. And then we end up becoming, you know, primary storytellers on Instagram. So I didn't understand why,

like, cause we were left with nothing reals, I'm sorry. And I know you like love it. It is not a sufficient alternative to TikTok. Not only is the algorithm like not as smart, I don't really feel like it targets what I need to see. The interface is not as user friendly. Like it's just, why didn't they spend the last month like doing their, you know, usual control C, control V,

like copy that shit. I thought that was like a wasted opportunity from the man who's like known for copying other competitive platforms. Why do you think that is? Well, I just have some thoughts, maybe a couple things. First, I do think the more that you use Reels, the more the content is tailored to you.

Like right now I like the things that I see, but I also, I'm not on TikTok, so it's not like I have the two to compare it to. I don't know what an even better algorithm for me is. But I also like that the algorithm on Reels isn't as addicting as you say TikTok is because I will inevitably spend less time on it. And so I think that's good.

Why Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want me to spend more time on Reels and doesn't want me to be as addicted, I don't know. But overall I'm happy with the product because of those reasons. Because of those reasons. I think that I wouldn't have been surprised. I think what the cool thing about TikTok is,

is that like you're seeing content from people you really don't know. And when you scroll your Instagram feed, it's people you follow. Yeah, they sprinkle in like things you might like, and it's never something I would even be remotely interested in. I wish that they had, well, now the opportunity is lost, but if they had created like a second feed

where you could swipe and see like, you know, people you don't follow, things you might be interested, just like a feed of not your following, but just... Well, when you go to your explore page and you click a video here, I get so much like Sabrina Carpenter. Oh yeah, when you scroll down. And then you start scrolling.

I don't know who any of these people are. I guess, yeah, like that's their definition of the FYP. It's just, it doesn't hit the same. That's where you go for outside content. Okay, like I don't know why I like only get slime. I don't partake in slime culture. There's so much slime. And I don't know, it's just,

TikTok knows me better than I know Claude Self. Yeah. And that's what I'll miss. Maybe. Well, it's back. Yeah. There's nothing to miss. There's nothing to miss. It's back. We also, I'm gonna tell you,

have dear toasters today and they are so crazy. Okay, good. We also have a lot of stories today and I watched the Molly Mae documentary this weekend. First three episodes dropped. We're getting clarity. Oh, it's first three. I thought it was three total. I'm like, that's a lot of hoopla for, you know. First three episodes dropped. Next three drop in the spring,

but they showed the previews for the next three. And there's footage from January 1st, where she sees everyone seeing her kissing Tommy on New Year's Eve. Like the turnaround, they got me there good. I mean, they are from Love Island. Like we are used to tight turnaround from these two. And like technically you filmed this two weeks ago,

like put it on my screen. It shouldn't be so hard yet. You find that it is for other people. So here's what's going on between the two of them. And a lot of it was shrouded in mystery in the early episodes, and I wish they would have been a little more clear. They're like, what Tommy did, what Tommy does.

I'm like, what does Tommy do? What did you? No, I hate when there's like this big thing, it's like, just say it. So here's what I've pieced together. He obviously has turned to alcohol since being injured from fighting, and then drinking was ruining their relationship.

I don't know exactly what he was doing at family functions, why she had to beg him not to drink at her sister's wedding, what he would have done. What does he do? What does he do? Embarrassing, like. Like drunk or angry. Drunk, saying embarrassing things,

like how drunk people do. Yes, but I just don't know which exact one it was. But like he was drinking all the time, like half the time their relationship was just so terrible because he'd be drinking the other half, like she really loves him, like really, really does. She couldn't keep doing the cycle anymore and she knew she had to break up with him,

but if she didn't announce it, she would have never followed through with it. So when she posted that over the summer, it was like a slow roll last resort, not just like Tommy came home drunk and breaking up with him. She posted it and really did it like to hold herself accountable in leaving him, you need to get help.

However, throughout the documentary, she shares like, the reason why I haven't been crying and I'm not like totally a mess over this is because like, I believe we're gonna get back together. So that like comes out later in the episodes and you start to see how like they're working towards being back together. He's not in it once, except for on the phone

and just like talking about Bambi. I think in the second half, it will be more about them making their relationship whole again. And then the first three episodes are really about her clothing brand, maybe, and all the work that she's put into it and like the launch event and a lot of like scandal that it had, I didn't even realize that

she had a pretty big like, see with the brand because they launched these blazers that were like the hallmark of the collection. Did you see the blazers on TikTok? The pilling? The bubbling, yeah. She said like the manufacturer, what they actually used to make the blazers

was not the agreed upon fabric that she had been wearing every single day. Like she was wearing her own blazer and it was just really a bad mess. And then they had more stuff coming out in that fabric. And I think she had to cancel it. I think maybe has kind of been like a complete clusterfuck for her.

And I'm shocked to hear that. I thought it was such a slight, everything I've gotten from there I love. And I also now find that because a lot of it is sold out, I go on like Revolve and look for pieces that are, even this cardigan I'm wearing today is maybe inspired, but it's lioness. I started on Friday night, the Molly Mae documentary,

and it occurred to me, as I started watching it, I'm actually not a Molly Mae fan. I didn't watch Love Island, I don't watch her YouTube videos. I like her and her man as a couple, and I feel like I like them through osmosis from you. And I was forcing Ben to watch it, and when I force Ben to watch something, I need to feel really passionate about it.

And especially in the beginning, like they weren't talking about the Tommy stuff. And I was just like, I feel like I girl boss too close to the sun. Like this actually isn't for me. Yeah, it's very slow pace. She is a comfort creator. It's not like comedy, exciting craziness.

Like it's just like- Heart-hitting documentary. In her life, in her house. And like, if you, she's, what's so remarkable about her actually is that she's just a, she's a very ordinary girl. Yeah. Like who has created something that no other reality

TV star or influencer has done. And like, why her? It's so crazy, but like we all, I am drawn to her. I do, I don't need her to have like the biggest personality. Like she has really lovely taste, but not so extravagant. Like, I don't know. There's just something about her that's... She kind of sounds like an equivalent, not now,

because she's like evolved so much past YouTube, but like an Emma Chamberlain. Like why did Emma Chamberlain out of all the YouTube swirlies get this choke hold on America? She, her original content, she was just like a regular girl who would like get manicures and like wear her hair in a high pony. Like she was not, she had like a certain aesthetic

that was like very like Gen Z, but it wasn't. Now she's like a high fashion. No, but she has a big personality too. And then she was also like dressing in a very distinct way. Yeah. I wouldn't say her personality in her YouTube videos that like shot her to fame like was so outrageous. Like it was just like, she was literally just a girl.

Like when she was like living at home, like when she really like before she blew up, it was just like girly, spoiler content. Yeah. And I think for Molly also it's like about Molly and Tommy, but even without Tommy, like it's really about her. So what she's done is just so impressive. And she's also very much like a perfectionist,

like very in the weeds on everything. Like a post doesn't go out on any social media account related to her without her looking at it. She was showing her camera roll. Like she just went to take an aesthetic picture of her bath, like hundreds of photos of it. Like seriously, so unenjoyable. Yeah, and she's like, it gets to a place of like,

it's absurd and when we get to that place, like then I just forget about it. Well, I have to tell you that when I stopped watching Molly May, I did watch the movie Conclave. And I've been meaning to talk to you about it, but you like ignored me all weekend, cause yeah, you had a friend over, congratulations. School for you, so happy for you that you have a new

best friend. Yeah, my best friend was here. I absolutely have to tell you about this movie. Okay. Because me and Ben started to watch it like a week ago and it was just clear that it was like not a movie we wanted to watch. And then I was like, let's give it a second chance.

Josh had told Ben that it was like one of his favorite movies of the year. So we were like, you know what? Let's try it again. And I'm so glad we did because I actually enjoyed it. But like it was the craziest movie I'd ever seen. And I am going to spoil it. So if you have any plans on watching Conclave, just like in it, you're never going to watch this movie. It's Ralph Fiends.

And it's about the selection of a new pope. It's like a hypothetical scenario. OK's about the selection of a new Pope. It's like a hypothetical scenario. Okay, I don't wanna watch that, yeah. So the, I guess I didn't know, like the ceremony after a Pope dies is called conclave. All the archbishops and cardinals, excuse me, from all the world, like the global ones

have to come together and vote on which cardinal they want to make the next one. So it's very political, you know, people have allegiances. It's regional too, like the Europeans want somebody who speaks Italian. The Africans would love someone black. Like it's very, um, you know, it's a lot of personalities, a lot of cultures mixed. And Ralph Fiends plays like the, the D the deacon, the Dean or something like he's in charge of the procession.

And so basically the whole time they're trying to pick a new, I didn't like understand what the movie was about. Cause at first I'm like, oh, they're trying to pick a new, I didn't like understand what the movie was about, because at first I'm like, oh, they're trying to pick a new pope and Ralph Fiends his team wants to put Stanley Tucci and I'm like, sorry, Stanley Tucci is actually too famous to act now in no fucking world. And I think Stanley Tucci was a Cardinal and like when he was going to be the Pope, I was like, sorry, it's just, I'm not seeing it.

Like I'm, I'm just not seeing it. He has a cookware line. Yeah. I want to see Stanley Tucci actually ruin the movie with his own aura, you know? Yeah, yeah. So, and then they were explaining how it's very political. Like Stanley Tucci and Ralph were like a little bit more like of a liberal, very modern progressive popes.

Whereas a lot of the others were like very old school and whatever. So they were just like, we have to- Is this a true story? No, no. So then like these cardinals who were getting a lot of votes, they hadn't reached like, we have to choose story. No, no. So then like these Cardinals who were getting a lot of votes, they hadn't reached the union, like 71 votes. They vote every day. They do a vote until somebody gets it. Then this guy was making a lot of progress.

Turns out, you know, he fucks some nun and has a daughter. So it was like all these different scandals. So like, where is this movie going? Then they're doing one of the votes in this like special. They're under sequestering, like they're in this like secret Vatican room for weeks. One of the windows shatters. Turns out there's a suicide bomber outside. I'm like, whoa, this movie's taking a weird turn. So then all the popes start fighting

because they're all on like different sides of the political spectrum. And they're talking about like other religions. And I'm like, damn, this is getting like kind of twisted. And then this one guy stands up and he's like, gives this whole speech about like peace for everyone. It was just like very like, you know, middle ground hippie. And the speech was so powerful.

The next time they voted peacemaker is the Pope. So we're like, oh, okay, I guess that's at first I was like, you know what? I kind of like that resolution. It's like somewhere in the middle and there's Rando who people didn't even know. Like he didn't speak any of the languages. Rando became Pope, but it's like, okay, all right. But there's like something sinister going on while they're getting ready to announce the new Pope.

I'm like, what is going on? Where is this movie taking us? Ralph Fiennes, who's in charge, his guy, he's got like a spy who's like been talking to the outside world for him, comes with some information on the person they have just elected pope. The peacemaker.

The pope had this trip to Switzerland, but he never took the trip. Why was he going to Switzerland? He had to go get this medical procedure. The new pope, is hermaphrodite. The new pope has ovaries and a uterus. And I was like, me and Ben were like. And a penis?

Yes, so he was explaining, his whole life he's been a man. No, like he had a surgery for his esophagus one time, they found his uterus and his ovaries. And he's been struggling with it with his faith, and he went to get the surgery, but he said, God made me this way, I'm not getting the surgery,

that's why he didn't go to Switzerland. And like Ralph Fiends is like, oh my God, we tried to avoid the guy with a daughter, we tried to avoid the guy who was paying people off. We ended up with a woman. And then that's how the movie ends. Like it was seriously, I didn't know where the movie was going the whole time.

And the fact that it ended up like so left field, me and Ben were like, what the hell did we just watch? It was actually so random. Cause I think about the whole suicide bomber plot. I'm like, what was the point of that? Like it was seriously the craziest movie I'd ever seen. I couldn't really come to terms with that. I was supposed to learn.

So did you like it? Like, yes. Because first of all, the movie itself was just like, it moved at a good pace. It was interesting. Like I didn't know about this whole, you know, what a conclave was. I guess like some people know that word. I didn't know about this whole, you know, what a conclave was. I guess some people know that word, I didn't.

And the movie actually didn't explain that that's what that was, but I put it together. But the ending seriously threw me so, it was just like, it was so kind of crazy, you know? And so random that I was like, okay. Like, okay, the Pope's hermaphrodite. I imagine if I was like a Catholic, I might have like stronger opinions about it,

but I was just like, oh, okay, like we're just fucking shit up in this movie. But I also like wanna go back to the definition of a hermaphrodite if I may. Sure, sure, sure. And by the way, actually the movie never said hermaphrodite. It's my understanding that if you are like medically, like a certain gender, but you have other parts,

that is a hermaphrodite. Yes. I just put the label hermaphrodite. I don't know what the other, I'm like 90% sure. Yes. It's a medical condition. Does he have a penis? Yes.

And an ovaries. Yeah. Cause like your ovaries are in like your stomach. Like he didn't know. It wasn't until he said he was like 35 that he had to get this surgery. The doctors were like, sir, you have a uterus. Got it. Okay, hermaphrodite is an organism

that has both male and female reproductive organs. A hundred percent. Okay, so I was right, it's hermaphrodite. Wow. It was really like so, like when I saw this movie about the Pope, like I didn't think we were gonna be going into the gender conversation.

Like it was just- Hermaphrodite education. Yeah. And actually I've been thinking a lot about hermaphroditism because I feel like- I actually feel like hermaphroditism isn't a big part of the gender conversation. It's like something completely separate.

No, no, I've been thinking about it because like when we were getting straightened for all those genetic tests, the, I think everybody does this, but a specific sect of Judaism, we are very on top of it because of Tay-Sachs, because like when we were getting screened for all those genetic tests, I think everybody does this, but a specific sect of Judaism, we are very on top of it because of Tay-Sachs, which is like a genetic disease. If you're Ashkenaz from Eastern European,

and a lot of people with our backgrounds can carry it. And if both you and your husband are carriers, it's very dangerous. So we get screened for genetic testing. We just did it. And a lot of the genetic testings are about like gender and reproductive genitalia. And actually I came back positive for one that was like,

if you have a boy, the boy is gonna have a big penis. And if you have a girl, the girl is gonna like have a big penis too. Now it didn't end up being an issue for Ben and I, but like some of these genetic diseases that like they discover new ones like every day, there's like a thousand that you could test for. And they're really, really rare,

but it's just been top of mind for me. So. Yeah. No, it's, it's, so it's basically like, you have a baby, you're not sure what gender it is, but like you're like, you make a call. Are you talking about hermaphrodite? Yeah. No, because it's clear what the gender is.

Like this guy was born a boy. He had a dick. Like they couldn't see the baby's ovaries. And I guess like never in his life did he do a scan or anything where they saw he had a uterus. Like it was just, you can function, you're a man. Like you've got balls in a. Okay.

Yeah, it was. Weird. But the thing is. Not hermaphrodites, hermaphrodites are lovely. Interesting movie. The movie like plot twist. Interesting movie. We're talking about it.

Like I'm telling you, it was so crazy. I was actually shook that that is what the, and I'm glad I saw it because I think it's gonna be one of those Oscar contenders. And I'm really trying to, I'm trying to make my way across all the films and I'm really doing a good job. So I don't think it should win anything.

And I certainly like not to be a hater. I don't think Stanley Tucci should win. I actually think Stanley Tucci needs to stop acting and just commit fully to being like a chef, influencer, socialite celebrity, because it's overshadowing his acting career. Yeah, I agree. His personality is just so big. Like it's not a knock on Stanley's self.

No, I'm not saying, and it's not that he's a bad actor. It's that he's so Stanley. Yeah, you can't take the Stan out of Stanley. Was he wearing his glasses? Yes, like it was just- At least take the was just, why is Stanley Tucci at the Vatican? At least take his glasses off. That's so Stanley. Like, and that hasn't been a problem for him

up until recently. Like I didn't blink at him in Devil Wears Prada. I certainly didn't blink at him in the lovely bones. Like he is now reaching a pinnacle where he has to choose. I feel like he would choose acting. I feel like he would choose acting. I feel like he would too. I think there's more money in acting. No, and that's like who he is at his core.

You can't take him out. He's like trained for it his whole life. Yeah, yeah. The rest is just confetti. Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks for that recap. You are so welcome. And now without further ado, it is time for the Fast Five

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Thank you, Turta Travel. You're welcome. Our first story, some musical news from yesterday, two headlines to share. First, Carrie Underwood sang America the Beautiful acapella after a major tech snafu at the inauguration. So seriously, such a terrible thing to happen to a performer.

Like the whole world is watching, especially Carrie Underwood, like, you know, you take a risk when you're performing at an inauguration, you're gonna divide, we're already so divided. So it was already like this big risk, I know she like came ready to slay and like whoever was in charge of the aux cord,

like seriously, the government is so embarrassing. Like this would never happen at like the Grammys. Like it's just, it's not even hard. And the music started and then stopped. And then it cut. It was seriously just like butt clenchingly awkward. I felt so bad for her. And I was thinking, I'm like,

this is like a Katie Heron moment. What a bright time. It's the right time time. And I'm like, if this goes on a little bit longer, she should just like, you know, start singing acapella. And that's exactly what she did. She rallied the room. Honestly, thank fucking God that they moved it indoors.

Because if she was outside, there was like supposed to be like a hundred thousand people or whatever. I don't know how many go to inauguration and there was no music. She would have had to stand there. She couldn't then start singing acapella. Like she would have had to stand there and truly wait.

Well, actually I think that would have been okay. And I think she would have done acapella cause I think I saw some people saying like the room was singing with her, which was really nice but they were like all off key. I was probably fucking with her. Even harder for her to stay on key. And given all of the trials and tribulations,

like it was getting a little scary there for a second, she sang amazingly. And we actually just watched her on New Year's Rockin' Eve. And I feel like we were saying like, it didn't sound the greatest. We were just saying like her vocals were like a little bit strained. Yeah.

And the thing about Carrie Underwood is like, we have faith in her as a performer because she comes from one of those shows. Like when you come from a talent show, like an expert, Kelly Clarkson, like you have actual talent. There are so many singers who like come up out of nowhere and they actually can't sing.

It's really crazy. You can't win a competition like that. We have heard her voice raw many a time. However, I feel like people's voices change over the years. People could lose their voices. Nodes, you never know. She was struggling at rock and even. Like she gave a great performance.

She looked great. Her music was great. She sounded fine at rock and even like, she gave a great performance, she looked great, her music was great, she sounded fine, but like, we know her to be better than that. She didn't sound like amazing and here she sounded amazing, like perfectly sung. She didn't do anything extra with the song. She hit every note. It was like seriously beautiful.

And I actually think overall, it turned out to be a really nice moment and probably a little more impressive than if she had had her track and she just sang it. So I think it actually turned out better than what it would have been. But it was a little- Now she's being commended for like slaying it,

but also like making the best out of a shitty situation. It was make it work moment. I know she was like at first before, because the accolades have really been overwhelmingly positive. I know that like when she got behind that curtain and it was over, like she was so pissed. Like-

She definitely was. And then she definitely like heard that everyone was like, no, that was a me, like Katie Heron, honestly. That was just like she said, that was the best it ever went. Like it got the people singing together. It was really like a beautiful harmonious moment. Everybody was singing the song together.

Everybody knows America, the beautiful. Yes. It was kind of like, we should do it like that on purpose next time. Now for her to have it happened to that song, I could just tell you like from a singer's perspective, it's actually a kind of easy song to sing. Like you can make it big,

but it doesn't have any like crazy high notes or anything. If you had to do that with the anthem and then everybody else is trying to like join in with you, the anthem is one of the hardest songs to sing. Like, so I'm glad that it happened with that particular song, but beyond unfortunate and like, I would like an investigation done. Like, so I'm glad that it happened with that particular song, but beyond unfortunate. And like, I would like an investigation done, like whose fault is this?

Like, I feel like we just moved on from it. And then the music worked for the rest of the day, but like, who, who, who, I want names. Well, the music didn't work. I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you for bringing that up. We have to talk. Part B of the story is other headline news

from inauguration performances. As we reported, Billy Ray Cyrus was performing at the Liberty ball, all these balls, oh my gosh, like. You really shouldn't participate in activities where balls fly at our nose. The fact that Rascal and Gavin weren't at the same ball. And like. It was so confusing. It was just, it was a lot as like a number one fan

of both of them. I didn't even get to see Gavin perform. Anyways, Billy Ray Cyrus performed at the Liberty ball or did he? It was an absolute disaster. Disaster. It was so disastrous. And to be honest, I am like now,

I never thought much about Billy Ray Cyrus. I definitely like a soft spot in my heart for him as Hannah's dad on the show and then Miley's dad in real life. And Icky Ricky heart, like he old town road. Like he's never given me reasons to dislike him. No, except for Miley, the devil don't need it to you. And he's been-

Oh yeah, oh right, oh my God, I forgot about that. That devil dumb slut Miley. Oh man, he's so crazy. They've been beefing, so like he's been a little bit on my shit list, but I do hold, I like, I do have this bit of nostalgia where I'm like, oh, maybe it's just, you know, it's showbiz. I think a lot of people have that nostalgia.

Like for our age, like he really raised us. He was like the television, he was Disney channel dad. And then for people older than us, like achy breaky heart, like he really does have like ties to culture for a lot of different people. Having said that. Last night ruined our childhood. The ties were severed.

I actually. Childhood ruined. You guys, it is actually worth watching the whole thing first of all, cause he only sang, I don't know how many songs he was slated to sing, but it was very clear from the moment his performance started that he hopefully was high on drugs because if that's like who he actually is, like that's best case, best case he's high on drugs,

worst case like that's who you are. So here's what happened and I don't even know what happened. Okay, so he came out, I think. They started playing the music video for Old Town Road on the screen. Now I was watching a really terrible live stream that didn't cut. It was just like the back of the room.

So it wasn't until- It looked like he was singing it. At the end of the song, Claudia's like, what is Billy Ray Cyrus doing? I'm like, he's not up there yet. Like we're just watching the music video. Turns out he's up there. There's no lights on him.

He's groaning. Oh, it's not up there yet. Like we're just watching the music video. Turns out he's up there. There's no lights on him. He's groaning. I thought, and I was like watching it while I was on my phone and I thought I heard someone like mumbling in the background. I was like, that's weird. When you told me that, no, he's there. And then I went to a different stream and you see him and he is a mess.

He is- Oh my God, the hair? He's just shoveled the hair, the shirt, the scarf. Like he looks like something that just like washed up on shore. At the beach. Literally it was bridge troll come to life. He was wearing his crazy hair, a beanie,

and then a cowboy hat, a jacket, a shirt, a scarf. And he kept taking items of clothing off and like leaving it on the stage. So when it was time for him to leave, he had to like pick up all of his belongings. So let's talk about him leaving because I don't know how many songs he was supposed to sing but somebody clearly turned his guitar off

after the first song because it was so disgraceful. And I think they were hoping that like he would just walk away. Oh, don't walk away when I'm, you could not get Willie Way Cyrus off that stage. You couldn't have offered him $6 million in that moment. Like nothing was stopping this man from continuing to sing. And he said, my guitar's not working.

My guitar's not working. It did not end. He's walking on the stage, like talking to people. Then he's saying, achy, breaky heart. Like, he said, whatever. We'll just do it acapella. He compared himself to Carrie Underwood. He said she had tech issues too.

Oh my God. I actually was mortified. I could only imagine what it was like being there because, and honestly, like shame on the event planners for not getting a security guard and just like, okay, it would have caused a scene for one second. It went on, you would not believe. I think the whole thing start to finish was 10 minutes.

Like it was really long. And it's just like, how is this still happening? We're like texting. I could not believe what I was watching. And even if you watch it now, like you'll see what he did. But like that feeling of it happening live and it would not end was so crazy. And he's walking on the stage talking to everyone

by the time and security's coming, they take his mic stand, they take his clothes. This guy was ill equipped. The guy was ill equipped. He wasn't security, he was like a stage manager. Yes, he wasn't because somebody needed to give him a frasque and grab him by the arm and escort because he kept going the wrong way,

whether it was on purpose or not, he could not find the exit of this facility. And he wasn't trying. He wasn't looking for it. No, but even when he went down those stairs, I think he thought, he could not find the exit of this facility and he wasn't trying. He wasn't looking for it. No, but even when he went down those stairs and he thought like he was leaving. Oh and then he starts hugging and kissing on all the fans and taking pictures like he's princess Diana.

Like it was so crazy. You guys, it was seriously the craziest thing I'd ever seen in my life. It was disgraceful. Like seriously to every, it was a slap in the face to every American. It was in my lifetime in like, in terms of like crazy performances,

top three craziest I'd ever seen. Craziest I've ever seen. Like it was traitorous to our country. Yes, it was Benedict Ray Cyrus. It was so crazy. And now I feel like I have a lot more understanding because while we've gotten a lot of intel on what's going on with the family's Cyrus drama,

we don't know for sure. We just know that there's like a divide between like Billy Ray and everyone. And then there's also that weird thing where like maybe Noah dated her mom's boyfriend. But I now have like a deeper understanding of like how you actually can't communicate or have a relationship with somebody who's that far gone.

And I have to imagine that he was on some sort of alcohol or drug, because that's really not how human beings behave. It was, I genuinely, I genuinely hope that he gets the help that he needs because it was a cry for help. It was a cry for help. I understand now why there's this divide between the Pessier family. So I'm sorry, Miley, that maybe I didn't see it sooner.

Even though after we heard that clip of you don't believe it. The devil done made my daughter a whore. The devil done made my daughter a slut. What did he actually say? He's called her like a slut. A skank. That devil skank. Miley, the devil skank.

Really? That's what he said. Now everything's gonna be about this performance. Miley. It should be. I'm sorry. This is like a situation where maybe it could be a wake up call for him, but it seems like he's been on this sort of bender for a while since the devil skank comment.

Yeah, so it was audio that was leaked and yeah, he called her the devil skank. Such a crazy fucking thing to say about anyone, let alone your daughter. Like seriously, jail for Billy Ray, lock him up and throw away the key. Yeah, so, so crazy. That was just a crazy thing.

And then Jason Aldean came out and- Jason Aldean said, he's like, Oh, we got a little bit more time. I think Billy Ray was supposed to like deliver like a normal performance of like a couple of songs. And that created more time. And Jason Aldean picked up the pieces that Billy Ray left behind.

So he was, he's at least, you know, a consummate professional. Yeah, he went on there, like nothing had just happened. Even though we all saw what we saw. I can only imagine what was going on backstage. Cause it's really all country artists. And there's, it's a small circle. So like everybody must be talking about it.

Everybody must be talking about it. Nashville is a blaze. It was so wild. And they like, he's blaming it on tech issues. Like even on stage, like even on stage, he was saying, Oh yeah, he said my guitar is not working. The battery is dead.

TMZ was saying like it's the audio, but like, no, I think that they cut him off. The video was playing, but they stopped. Like he wasn't, he couldn't sing. He was grumbling. They cut him off. Cause Jason Aldean had no audio issues or any issues. Correct.

It was what a wild time. It was just the absolute craziest thing I've ever seen. I agree. It was so nuts. And it made the Carrie Underwood thing like look like not like a big deal. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

I am. Some fake news this morning, but I want to see what you think because Justin Bieber unfollowed his wife. Fake fucking news. So everyone said Justin Bieber unfollowed his wife, Hailey on Instagram and then- And by the way, I guess technically he did. He did.

And then today he posted someone went on my account and unfollowed my wife. Shit is getting sus out here. And when I saw on Twitter this morning that he had unfollowed his wife, I feel like news like that happens all the time. And then I go and check and the people still follow each other. There's so much- Okay, but he did unfollow her. Yeah, but when I checked this morning that he had unfollowed his wife. I feel like news like that happens all the time. And then I go and check and the people still follow each other. There's so much.

He did unfollow her. Yeah. But when I checked this morning, he was following her back. So I was like, oh, fake fucking news. And then he released a statement on Instagram stories. So I guess confirming for a period of time, he at one point had unfollowed his account was no longer following Halley's.

Now, you know me, I love to cloud on people who like have social media for positive and say they got hacked. Like it's seriously so embarrassing. But I don't know, I'm always very cautious when it comes to Haley and Justin because there's so much drama around them always and they couldn't like seriously be more stable.

Like they've never broken up, they have a baby. Like time keeps proving them strong. So I don't know. I think saying you got hacked is so lame. I know. Here's what I think. I think saying you got hacked is so lame. I agree. Here's what I think. But I could see a Jelena account, like in Turkey getting on the hacking system

and fucking shit up. If I had to make a guess as to what happened, just like I did with Tommy and Molly Mae, and let's not forget that like I completely crushed that one. Absolutely slayed. Oh my gosh. Like soothsayer. To a T, alcohol.

Soothsayer, no alcohol. And she can take him back if he can cut out alcohol. And she's taking him back and To a T, alcohol. Soothsayer, no alcohol. And she can take him back if he can cut out alcohol. And she's taking him back and he's cutting out alcohol. Clairvoyant. Yeah. So here's what I think happened here. I don't think Justin Bieber was hacked by an unidentified third party.

I don't even think it was a Julina Stan in Turkey. I happen to agree. I actually think that it might've been someone on Justin's team. Like he's got like someone nefarious actor on his team. Who did something like this. And he's got- Who has ties to Jelena.

Who has ties to Jelena or maybe doesn't like Haley. Like there's always like rumors about their relationship that I agree with you are like, I think they're solid. I don't think this is a mark on them as a couple. I think it's a mark on someone who works for Justin. Startin' shit. I had actually thought like, cause Justin is this like diva big star.

I could see them like having an argument, like a regular marital argument and him getting mad and I'm following her. Like that's how I thought maybe that this went down. I agree. I do not think he got hacked. I think it's actually really hard for a celebrity's Instagram account to get hacked.

It used to happen a lot. I feel like it doesn't really happen so much anymore. If I were to hack Justin Bieber's Instagram, like I would post, I don't know, a link to- Follow at the toast. Yeah. Yeah. Not, and I'd say like new music, raising funds, like people would literally donate

and the person could get away unscathed. Like there's so many things you could do, not unfollow the wife. And I just want to say, I actually think that if they got into like a fight and he unfollowed her, like that would be really crazy. And like a really bad sign. You have to remember, these are like Hollywood type folks.

Like they do crazy things. They do crazy things. No, but that would like, that would be a serious red flag. That's a crazy thing to do, especially when you know the whole world's watching. You want to embarrass her like that. Well, I don't know how to make sense of this then,

because I happen to think that like, there's a lot of hoopla around them, but at the end of the day, like they're a really strong couple. And so I don't think that this is like a sign that they're getting divorced, but I also don't think he was hacked. So I don't know what happened here. I agree with both of you. I don't think it's a sign of their relationship, but I do think that a couple people have access to his Instagram and are messing with him.

One more thing about Conclave that just reminded me of something because- The Pope's bikini model? Yes, it reminded me a lot of that time that the Pope's Instagram account had like a couple of people who were like, I don't know what happened to them. I don't know what happened to them. I don't know what happened to them. I don't know what happened to them. I don't know what happened to them. are messing with him. One more thing about Conclave that just reminded me of something because- The Pope's bikini model? Yes, it reminded me a lot of that time

that the Pope's Instagram account had liked the photo from an OnlyFans model's account. And we were all wondering how that happened. And I feel like now that I know a little bit more about like the systems in place, there is zero percent chance that it was the Pope himself. And there is definitely a Cardinal who's like a young thing who's like taken it on to be,

I don't think it's like an intern person. I think it's like an actual, a man of the cloth whose specialty is digital. And he was, you know, playing around with the girls. I agree. It was not the Pope self. No, it was like, Conclave taught me that it wasn't the Pope. Yeah, agreed. Are you ready for our next story?

What number? Number three, it seems. Oh yeah. Some social media beef. Love. Spencer Pratt says he has beef with Call Our Daddy host Alex Cooper for allegedly refusing to promote Heidi Montag's song.

So Spencer Pratt is all over the interwaves, especially with TikTok going down in his big TikTok moment. But he's also sharing that he has some beef with Alex Cooper after she allegedly declined to promote his wife Heidi's new song. The couple- He has made a lot of content about this.

Like not only videos, but he also was doing an Instagram live, excuse me, TikTok live. The night that TikTok went down with Alex Earl and Bethany Frankel, and while he was on with Bethany, he was talking nonstop about it. Yeah, and a few other videos where he explains

when this started happening, he was asking everyone to post Heidi's song, he reached out to a bunch of people, he said she was the only one who wouldn't do it. He said at the time that she had said that we have a lot of people displaced from the fires at our house, and I'm like, post the song, girl.

He previously had gone on her podcast, and I think he was saying like he's worn her merch, like always supported and that he didn't get that same support from her. Like he said, like she's number one on the hit list now. And we're also getting Intel into this viral moment from their interview together because there has, he had walked off the call her daddy show.

And I guess a lot of people thought that it was, up until now we thought it was fake. I thought it was staged and it was. So Spencer is now making content about that viral moment, sort of pulling the curtain back and being like, yeah, I mean, it was fake, but like she did ask that question and like it was loaded and it was rude and we did two takes.

So like he confirmed it was completely staged. But like- What was the question? Does it like make you sad that you will never be as relevant as you once were? And like to Spencer, that's like never be as relevant as you once were? And like to Spencer, that's like the most hurtful thing you could say. And so he like, quote stormed off

and he shared that not only did she, she did ask that question, which he found to be like really offensive, but they had done a take where he responded and like said something like nasty right back to her. And they didn't wanna use that take because they didn't wanna include something like nasty that he back to her. And they didn't want to use that take because they didn't want to include something like nasty that he said about her.

So he's just sort of like any dirt he has, like he's throwing, like he's done. Yeah, but he didn't tell us what he said back to her that was cut out, did he? No. I didn't see that. No, no, no, he didn't, he didn't. And then he was providing screenshots, like it's getting, you know, it's getting messy.

Alex has since used the song. She put out a TikTok statement just about like places she's donating and encouraging others. And the song was playing in the background. And it was after Spencer already did all of this. Right. So there's, you know, there's two things. One, it's like, it's not like Alex was making like a ton

of content and like actively not using the song. I believe that was the first time she had posted on social media. She is in LA, she is directly affected. But two, it's a low lift, just do it. Everybody was doing it. Emily Raddickhouse, literally everyone was doing it. Yeah, and that's just what influencers

and celebrities do for each other. I send you my product, you post it, whatever, and this is just a song and as you said, it's a low lift. It couldn't be easier. Yeah, yeah. This is not a time to be fucking around with Spencer Pratt. Like he's kind of got the world on his side.

He's extremely powerful right now. He said respectfully, if I keep my platform and I keep being an A-list rich celebrity, she's so fucked. Cause I have beef with her. She sounds like you and Ben. No, literally. Literally, if I keep being a rich A-list celebrity.

And so like moments like this are kind of fleeting for anyone, but especially somebody who's like in the cycle of like reality star influencer, it's hard to keep the attention of the world. So the fact that he actively has the world on his side and he's, you know, it's kind of humbling to have to reach out to people, be like, can you please just stream my wife's song? So I get it. And it's crazy. Like it's seriously the beef I did not see coming.

And Alex hasn't, she hasn't formally like gotten in the ring, you know, she hasn't responded, but she made the video sort of, I guess, like white flag. I guess, but he kept going. Like he posted before she made the video, she made the video and after still posting the video. So that didn't move the needle for him. I don't see her responding to this though.

I don't know. No, no, I don't posting the video. So that didn't move the needle for him. I don't see her responding to this though. I don't know. No, no, I don't see it either. I think maybe she like marks herself as safe. Like I, you know, all in all, I did do the song. I did do the thing you asked me. And she does have a valid excuse, like living in LA, she said they're like housing a bunch of people.

I'm sure it's been like a crazy two weeks. But you could also make the argument that like, you could have posted like one TikTok. It takes like 10 seconds. Like, yeah. Yeah, you could argue both sides. TikTok, it takes like 10 seconds. Like, yeah. Yeah, you could argue both sides. Yeah, Spencer said that he's teamed Sophia with an F now. He said,

Sophia with an F posted the song and did a dance. Not only did Sophia with an F post the song, she posted it like the minute after Spencer made his first video about Alex. So she like, she saw an opportunity and she took it. Yeah. So this thing is getting deep. And also I found really interesting was the Alex Earl of it it. Yeah. So this thing is getting deep. And also I found really interesting

was the Alex Earl of it all. Yes. So I was saying that Saturday night, the night before TikTok, as the TikTok was coming to an end, Bethany, Alex Earl and Spencer, who are like three big personalities on TikTok, did a live together and actually it actively stopped.

TikTok stopped. It was actually, it was like kind of crazy. And earlier in the live, they were talking a lot about Alex Cooper. And so I feel like for Alex Earl to have been a part of that, I think a lot of people are now questioning, like, is there beef between Alex and Alex? Well, I feel like the streets were saying that there were

whispers that there's beef betwixt the Alex's. Cause they were like everywhere, everything all at once, like doing events. I haven't seen them together, like interacting whether it's in person or even on social media in years. Her show is still a part of Alex's network. Years?

Oh, I'm sorry. You know me and time a year. To me, like I don't see that as like unnecessarily a smoking gun, but I actually think like going on live with like your bosses arch nemesis at the moment is very telling. Like that's-

It's indicative. Like it's told. I'm not even like, oh, it's smoke now. I'm like, oh, there's beef betwixt the lichses. But I also think like the not showing up to events. I think that's like a core part of Alex's network is throwing these events and not only can you come and meet Alex, but you can come and meet all the other

unwell swirlies. Like they just did one in Philly. That's like, I think a huge part of their like business strategy. Yes, but I think that you meet all the other unwell swirlies. Like they just did one in Philly. That's like, I think a huge part of their like business strategy. And so- Yes, but I think that you could make the argument, maybe you are right, but I would just say-

For the biggest star, not to, she hasn't been to one in a while. I would say the counter argument is that she was among the first to join the network and she was the first one in the early days going to all the events. And now there are other people and maybe they take up the torch right now.

Like, or there's beef between them. Or there's beef, yeah. But I could also, I think a lot of these things can be explained, but when you put it, the live actually can't be explained. And Alex Earl keeps making videos with the song. With the song, yeah.

And that person was just trash talking your boss and friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely layered. Yeah, it's a layered one. My coxedonia is so fucking bad today. Like, ugh. I'm sorry. If you're watching on YouTube,

it looks like an actual grandmother is hosting this podcast. Coxedinia is strong. Thank you. Me and my community really wanna just genuinely thank you for the advocacy you've done for us. And we are gonna give you our ambassador of hope award. Oh.

There weren't any other contenders, so thank you. That's so beautiful, thank you. You're welcome. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Rachel Kirk and her sister claims that Matt James broke up just three hours before his announcement. Before, it's been so long since we did a show.

I forgot how much news there was. I know, but I just have to put a button on this because until Rachel speaks out, this is what we know. Rachel's sister says that Matt James broke up with Rach just three hours before the shocking Instagram announcement he shared on Thursday. Trinity, the sister shared the timeline hint

under a TikToker's video about the breakup. Trinity had previously told the TikToker that Rachel and James were still together when he revealed they had separated. James posted the photo of them, including them meeting at the famous bachelor mansion with his prayer. Trinity said that he had broken up with her three hours

before he posted that statement. I have to imagine everything Trinity, because Trinity's been making news, you know? And I imagine it's all sanctioned by Rachel. So for that, like, I feel good. And my belief is that Rachel, like, as a follower of Rachel, I believe her sister is like in her content a lot. Like they are close.

Yes, no, this is coming straight from the horses now. It's not like Meghan Markle's sister. No, Samantha, no. Who hasn't seen her in years. Right, right. And also another thing that came out, and you know, I had seen a couple of DMs about this, people being like, actually, I only got it from one girl.

It must be the same girl who submitted to Jumah. She was like, please don't include my name. But like, I had seen a couple of DMS about this. People being like, actually, I only got it from one girl. It must be the same girl who submitted to Dumas. She was like, please don't include my name, but like I am in Japan and I saw Rachel and Matt together the day they announced their breakup. And I was like, wait, what? And then that girl, maybe it was the same girl, maybe someone else, wrote into Dumas being like, hi, I'm in Japan.

And I literally saw these two the day they announced they broke up and showed a picture. So the timeline is coming together. It's still pretty vague, but they weren't in London, which I think a lot of us could have guessed them having, So the timeline is coming together. It's still pretty vague, but they weren't in London, which I think a lot of us could have guessed them having, but they were together the day that they broke up and they were also on a trip.

That is really unbelievably strange. And the more, this is just like, it's seriously so weird, the whole thing. Yeah. And I don't know who's going to speak first. It's given the weird, the whole thing. Yeah. And I don't know who's gonna speak first. Given the track record, Matt, who we'd wanna hear from, Rachel. It's true, it's true.

Yeah, so I'm waiting to hear from her. The more I hear about the breakup, the more I'm happy that they broke up because she deserves something different. You just really never know what's going on because I think a lot of people would have considered them a really, really strong, everything seemed to be perfect couple.

And not only is that not the case, but like now, of course, people do things like nefariously, but you know, people go back and say, well, this was something weird that Matt did. And a lot of like his comments or things that, you know, pulled from a podcast, like it's not giving like supportive husband. Yeah.

Especially when it comes to like, anytime they were asked about proposals, it was very much like him making her weight and how funny is that? It's literally not. Yeah, but it's also like hard to judge that stuff like on its face, cause sometimes it is shtick and like you have like a story about your relationship

that you put out to the world, but like we also don't know what it actually is. So I take that with a grain of salt. A hundred percent. And it's not always in good faith. Yeah. Like I'm not fully like all signs indicates like Matt being the villain here, but I haven't seen enough full, a hundred percent full proof.

Like I need to know. Yeah. I need to know more before I can really agree. But it's not looking good. Three hours. No, it's not. It's not. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

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Thank you slash chart. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, a little hosting news, host for the Grammy Awards 2025 has been announced. And it is Trevor Noah again. So Trevor Noah will return as master of ceremonies of the 67th annual Grammy Awards for the fifth consecutive year.

He also will serve as a producer on the show. Okay. Next. Yeah. Well, you know what? I actually just saw, I had two stories for the fifth and I went with that one and I bumped the other one. Did we learn nothing from Nikki Glaser? Like give it to the, give it to the Renegade.

Like this same group of people hosting every, like Trevor Noah is now a Jimmy to me. Like he's the host of one of those daytime show, nighttime shows, excuse me. And it's just like, it's boring. He, they obviously like him. They think he does a good job. And I think last year we said like, it's boring. They obviously like him. They think he does a good job.

And I think last year we said like, it was totally fine. I do think Nikki Glaser will force him to like step his travesy up because- For Trevor, it's not his travesy, it's his tushy. You guys know I saw Trevor Noah one time in real life and he had like a really big tushy. It was just, it's something that doesn't get spoken about. Maybe you can add it to the list

of Claudia's favorite stories. We were at So House having brunch and it was buffet. So he got up to go to the buffet and it was definitely the pants cause they were like tight khaki, which is just a choice when you have like a big ass. And he's wearing a belt too that was like cinching his waist and it was just, it was giving BBL.

Like it really was. It's already on the list. I do think maybe he'll do a little bit more comedy now that Nikki Glaser set the bar so high, but I do remember remarking last year was totally fine. And obviously- It was fine. Grammys were fine with it.

So the Grammys are- We're not gonna be giving like a diatribe like we did when Nikki Glaser did the Grammys and then we, Oscars, and then we came on here and gave like a whole hour long speech about how amazing it was. There will be no such speech. No, I doubt it. I mean, always holding space like for the possibility,

but probably not. Grammys are February 2nd. So that's kind of soon sneaking up on us. And also like the Oscar nominations keep getting postponed because of the wildfires. But I do think that they- Yes, but they've been given a date. Yeah. I think they're going to get, the show must go on.

There was like a theory that the Oscars were gonna be canceled this year. Oh, and it was so funny. It was making me laugh, not that it's funny, but like there was a TikTok from like CNN, like something legit that was like Oscars heavily considering canceling stream just because it's like so out of touch, right?

And it's just like, and that's what people want to talk to do, right? Like cancel this sort of extravagant thing, jacking the comments. We're like, well, wouldn't it be better for them to put it on and donate the proceeds? So it's like, you literally can't win.

If you cancel, like you're not helping. And if you go and donate, you're not helping and you're out of touch. Like it was actually funny to me to see like both sides of the coin. I'm like, okay, well, people are just impossible. Well, that's the moral of the story. People are just impossible.

People are also complex. And I think that's really reflected in this week's Dear Toasters. Jackie, there is the craziest one. I'll save it for last. Really? Maybe I won't be able to stop thinking about it. It's hard for me, you know,

I know. To toggle between DTs, but I do my best. So DT, Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I help three swirlies in need. They write to us about things that are going on in their lives, whether it's relationship related, work related, hygiene related sometimes.

We have a hygiene one today. And so whatever you need help with, if you ever are finding yourself in a pickle being like, I would love to hear from this fabulous swirlies that I listen to every day. You actually can write in to us, deartoastersatgmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com, scroll down, there's a little submission box,

both are totally anonymous. Are you ready? Hello swirlies. Okay, you have permission to laugh at this absolutely insane conundrum I found myself in. My husband is perfect in every way, but over the course of our marriage, there have been a few times

that he has forgotten to flush the toilet, which is not the concern I'm of course bringing you today, although it is insane. My concern is that the few times this has happened, there has been no toilet paper in the toilet. I'm starting in, it's poop, just to be clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My concern is that the few times

I've seen this happen, there's been no toilet paper, and I'm starting to get seriously concerned that he isn't wiping his tissue. Do I ask him or just like let him do his thing? It's kind of embarrassing for him. And I'm sure no man wants his wife asking if he wipes his butt, but I also need him to start wiping his butt

if that's the case. What do I do? So I think you would totally ask him, this doesn't seem like a man who's easily embarrassed or else he would think twice and flush the toilet. That's what someone who's like a shy, embarrassed person would do. I would like to offer like one sort of like

saving grace alternative that like, maybe just maybe the poops that he has not flushed are poops you took before a shower. Cause sometimes if you're like about to get in the shower, like unless you have explosive diarrhea, like you don't need to wipe. Like I would, but you don't have to. Have you ever, ever done that?

I've again- Personally? Yeah. Like, yeah. Okay. Like I have, like if I made like a pargy loaf that like was sort of- Oh my God, that is so great. It's a good, it's a good theory.

And then you're getting the shower to literally wash your ass. I think it's something that- What is this toilet paper gonna do compared to my body wash? It's step one. For sure. I'm just offering an alternative. And I just wanna say for the record, like I don't do that all the time.

I would have never crossed my mind. However, I do in thinking about it, think it's something that a man might do. So that could be one. But I think you just ask him, like there's really no secrets, like of the, like this between men. It's not that embarrassing.

Just be like, by the way, what are you doing? Ever heard of toilet paper? Yeah, just find out. Like this would like seriously, curiosity would get the best of me. And this is just a great reminder of the thing. One time, speaking of your friend, Sam, who stayed at your house this weekend,

who's your new best friend, who you like don't need me anymore because of. Her husband one time said like- My best friend for over 10 years. For sure, for sure. Fuck her. No, I'm kidding. Her husband one time said like,

truly one of the most profound things to me that I never forgot. Do you know what I'm about to say? I do. About wiping your butt. He was just like, it's really so crazy that like 99% of Americans feel it's sufficient to wipe their asses after like making a duty

with toilet paper. Cause like, let's say you got a pee. It's like, it's duty on your skin, right? Let's say you got duty on your finger. Would you just wipe it away with toilet paper? Like, no, you would use soap. So I ever since then- It's not a fair comparison because like you eat with your fingers? Like, no, you would use soap. So I ever since then- I swear to God-

It's not a fair comparison because like you eat with your fingers and it needs to be extra clean. Okay fine, but no, in his defense, he said your arm. He said your arm. Yeah, also like it's out in the world. So I just wanna say like I ever since then, my house is always fully stocked.

I use like adult wipes. Cottonelle is my favorite brand if anybody cares, but I'll take whatever I can get. And I think more people need to get comfortable. I know in other countries bidets are like really popular, like they're even like public toilets and shit. That's like extreme for me, but I think a wipe, like as a country, the fact that we don't use more wipes,

like there should be wipes in every major public restroom. Moral of the story, just ask him, he's not someone who can be embarrassed and maybe he needs to, and if he is gonna be embarrassed, like maybe he needs to be a little bit embarrassed so he starts flushing the toilet. Whether or not he wipes is his issue. If you hadn't noticed it, like in an other way, you know.

Right, like when you're having sex, like does it smell like poop? No, like yeah, like then it's probably not an issue, but I would just wanna know for fun. For funsies. Okay, this one's really crazy. Okay. Hi, swirlies.

I'm a working married mom of two. A few months ago, I got a comment on a TikTok video I posted from a fake account telling me that my husband was cheating on me. It turned out to be true and that is being dealt with. My problem is whoever this person is that messaged me will not stop posting videos of me, screenshots of TikTok messages she sent me. But when I blocked her, she tagged my business or she'll tag my sister. I can't get away from her.

Who is she? What does she want? Do I ignore it? Sincerely an annoying toaster who doesn't have time to deal with this bitch. It might be her husband's mistress who wants you to leave him and wants to ruin your life.

She's obsessed with you. And wants to ruin your life so that you leave him and that he's all hers. Who else could it be? This is like so crazy to happen to just like a civilian. Yeah. You know, but not like a celebrity. Yeah.

But she also like has a business and it seems like maybe she's a little bit of a creator. So if she didn't have those things, like I don't know if the person would have messaged her or emailed her or something, but either way, I think it's someone who is sleeping with your husband, obsessed with your husband once during your life. Yeah, or like slept with your husband once

and like didn't get the relationship out of it that she wanted, so she's trying to like take you down. There are like not services, but there are people on the internet who like are FBI investigators who can like find out who's behind a Finsta. And if it's like really bothering you, because I kind of would want to know too,

or honestly, if your husband is in the dog house, like now would be a great opportunity. Be like, I need the names of everybody you slept with so I can cross-reference them with my stalker. And then once you find out the identity of the stalker, she's lost all of her power, right? The power is in the anonymity. So you can then go to her place of business

and give her a little bit, go to the brothel where she works and give her a little bit of her own medicine. And if you are trying to reconcile with your husband, like he can earn some points. He has to come clean. He can earn some points by sharing some names and like letting you know who he thinks this might be.

And if you guys are splitting up, well, he could still do you a solid. Yeah, like on your way out after burning the house down, if you could just be decent for 30 seconds, that would be great. Yeah. So I would start with him. Finding out the identity of your stalker

is I think the first step in taking your power back. This third and final two toasters is one of the craziest ones that maybe we've ever had on our show. Not to be dramatic. Hello, Jackson Claude, I desperately need your advice. My husband and I are very close with two other couples. My husband has known the guys since college.

We all have kids the same age. We take trips together throughout the year and we're pretty much together every weekend. All's just to say we are very close. Well, here's my dilemma. I was on my husband's phone looking for an email for my son's school to forward to myself. While looking, I noticed he had sent multiple naked photos

of me to the two guys in our friend group. And the two guys had also sent naked photos of their wives to my husband. Some of the photos were ones I had taken myself and sent to my husband, and some he had taken of me that I had never seen before. Obviously, I feel weird about this, and I don't know what to do.

Do I tell the other wives, AKA my closest friends, do I confront the guys about it? Help, love ya. Now, what comes to mind immediately? That guy in France? A thousand percent, Giselle Picoult, or whatever her name is. If you don't know this story,

it is probably one of the most Sinister. Disturbing stories. Disturbing. This woman who was married to her husband I don't know the story. It is probably one of the most sinister, disturbing. This woman who was married to her husband for like 50 years found out, remind me how she found out again. You were the one who- Oh, so the guy, he was caught like at the mall

taking pictures, like up girl's skirts. And so he was detained by the police. The police went through his phone. His computer. And they found all of these photos and videos of his wife. So basically what he would do was he was drugging his wife and then at night was letting men come and gangbang and rape his wife and he had pictures and videos of it.

And this was going on for years and years and years and she had no idea. And of course, like she suffered medical issues because of this and it was just a mystery to her and her doctor. Her name is Giselle Pellicott. Yeah, so he was. and the trial just happened. It was like 70 men were all found guilty of like gang rape

and him like taking pictures of his daughters too, selling them, daughters-in-law selling. So it was one, I didn't even know humans could be that depraved. It was huge news in France and it made its way over here because they all were just found guilty. I haven't thought, I stopped thinking about that story. Like it was so upsetting.

Should we go to the doctor with all these like issues? Yeah, like health issues. Of course, like vaginal health issues. She had no idea she was being raped every night. She was suffering memory loss. Oh my God, like seriously so crazy. And honestly, I don't want to be dramatic. And I know everybody says, Trini gets dramatic.

This is giving her husband energy. Like taking nude photos of your wife without her knowledge is such a crazy, weird thing to do. Sending them to other people. Like now we are entering the territory of your criminal to me. Yeah, that they have like a little thing going on. And they have some, yeah.

100%. You absolutely have to tell the wives. First step, tell the wives. I would, if you could like just get screenshots of everything, get it to your phone so that you can like show them with their own two eyes. Like it's so absurd they might not believe you. And then either confront the men.

I don't know, like go to the police, go to their mothers. Like this is so crazy. Go to their mothers. I know. Because even like, of course like you think about like. On its surface, let's say like best case, they're just like shrieks sharing. That's grounds for divorce in my opinion.

Let's say even if it's nothing more disturbing, sinister, evil than that, like, bitch, I'm walking around my house naked. That's the most like, what's the word I'm looking for? Private, like intimate, and you're taking pictures and you're with your friends. That's grounds for divorce. I think there's something even more disturbing

going on under the surface. I don't even know what it is. So the fact that like the three of you, them like do this, they're doing something worse with these photos. These are fucking freaks. I agree. And even if they're not doing something worse, that is not your man.

Your man protects you. Your man loves you. Your man would fight to the ends of the earth to keep your body like your private space. This man is your enemy, he's the devil. Yeah, call the police. Call, call the police, comma, call their mothers. Yeah.

Sometimes calling someone's mom is more powerful than calling, but sometimes like, you know, people end up being so fucking crazy because they have crazy parents too. Like sometimes you'll tell someone, your son did this and they're like, so, so sometimes it's not a foolproof plan. The mother's thing, but sometimes calling someone's mom, especially if they have

like a, you know, like an immigrant parent, oh, they don't fuck around like this. Like very, it's very cultural too. Sometimes call the parents. Yeah. I don't get Jackie's right. Get all the evidence first before it, before he knows you're onto him. Because you sound like this is so far fetch. I don't, Jackie's right. Get all the evidence first before it, before he knows you're on to him. Because you sat like, this is so far fetch. I don't, I've never heard of this. You need like take your phone and film the chat.

Yeah. Film the chat. Film his phone while you're scrolling through the chat. Like I think, cause too many screenshots at least a paper trail. Nope. And video, this could be edited. Not a video can't be edited. Film the chat. Yeah. Good idea. Send that fucking chat. Yeah. Good idea. And you send that shit to the wives. I like that you know and you have a little bit of head start because you need, people are gonna think, they're gonna doubt you because it's so crazy.

Yeah. You need unequivocal evidence. Really disturbing. I'm really sorry. Like that's such innovation of privacy. Yeah. And that's dear toasters. Yeah.

Did I, by the way, did I over exaggerate or like high-pup too much? No, but now I feel sick. I know, that's why I left it for last so we can just wrap it up. Okay, let's wrap up. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast in the Morning show.

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