The Toast - Big 'Big Katy' News: Wednesday, September 4th, 2024

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. That really feels like a Tuesday, but it's a Wednesday because we should be adapting the four-day work week here in America. That's my takeaway. End of episode. Hey, Jax. How you doing? How you doing? I'm doing good. Except, you know, when you're like sleeping

and you're trying to orient yourself to like, where am I? What day is it? What time is it? I oriented myself to Thursday. So I'm already like... She I'm already like on Orient Express. No. So like I'm missing the greatness of this week. Like it should have felt short and now it feels long because I oriented myself improperly. Oh, you're just like so toxic because let's, let's not go there. Let's not ruin a perfectly good thing. No, we won't. It's Wednesday. And you know, I wasn't ready for it to be Thursday because this week has so much to offer. There's so much we're going to do this week. And I just, I want more of

this week. There's so much gargi-parginess to admire. There's so much gargi-pargi energy this week. I would be sad if it was almost over, honestly. I'm really enjoying this week. It's kind of been like a top-notch week. I mean, it's been literally one day. Calm down. However, I agree with you. And I want want to say and I know I say this every time there's some sort of federal or bank holiday the four-day work week is so unbelievable I'm so productive every day is like filled to the brim with gargi parji product productivity gargi parji production production by the way literally trademark it now um it just it makes me sick that this is not my like I mean I mean, we're two days in a row,

like some of the best moods we've ever been in. It's because of the four-day work week. My God, if people just got their fucking act together. Now, I know what you're going to say. If it was a four-day work week every week, then you wouldn't be that productive because you just get into the same routine you are in now with the five-day work week. Like, please shut up. I know what you're going to say.

Yeah, Tuesdays would come to feel like Mondays. No, they wouldn't. But I understand what you're saying. And we wouldn't appreciate the four-day work week like we do. It would be like clamoring for a three-day. Like, shut up and go to work. No, I know. I think, you know what it really should be?

Oh, my God. Because in order to appreciate. Every other week? No. Once a month? No, let me fucking talk. In order to appreciate the four-day work week, right, you need to have lived through the five-day work week.

I think, you know, there's like a retirement age at 65. There needs to be like a reduction age. You go from the five-day to the four-day at like 35. No, is that halfway? But then that would result in ageism because then people wouldn't want to hire the people who are only working four days a week. They would want to hire the five days. But here's days a week. They would want to hire five days. But here's the thing.

You have to still get the same amount of work done in those four days. Like your responsibilities remain the same. Yeah. I just think it's something to think about. Like I know we think it can't be done, but like, you know, during COVID on a whim, everybody went to working at home.

Like if we wanted it bad enough, it could happen. If we wanted to, we would. I just feel like complaining about five days and and yearning for four days as a core tenant like of this show 100% what would we talk about that's a really good question we have to kind of we'd have to seriously go on hiatus like re-strategize our entire content strategy yeah like the days of the week are so integral to the tone of the show every day and if they were rejiggered perhaps we might be rejiggered would that be so bad I could use a good rejiggering it depends how the jiggering fell

well we'd have to just let the chips fall where they may where they may now I wanted to say something that I saw on Twitter today that I feel like you wouldn't have wanted to make a story but it really it really put into perspective for me. Like I'm seriously old, you know? Okay. What did it? You know, um, Jacob Sartorius. Oh my God. Throwback to my mortal enemy, Jacob Sartorius. I forgot about him. I hope he's doing well. Um, no, you know what? As a kid, like, I don't know. I know I was like big into Nick at night. Yeah. And like, what were the shows that we were watching? The Nanny and George Lopez. The one, George Lopez. I wasn't watching.

I was always watching George Lopez against my will. But, you know, I'd watch two episodes of The Nanny and then go to sleep and then wake up to. And apparently like they've updated their programming for the next gen. Like, do you know what their The Nanny is going to be? And The Nanny was like an old show that they brought back for kids at nick at night the old show is modern family that's what kids are going to be watching like before they go to bed that's like the reruns i just want to say yes feeling old because that was a contemporary show for us isn't that the hot new thing it just ended however i'm glad to know that that's what the kids will have to

comfort them as they go to sleep at night because it's such a good show yeah for so many different reasons so totally I agree with you on both counts it also I feel like we don't talk about like do you remember a time when Modern Family just aired and like seriously the way people were talking about it like it really was a cultural shift it was now it's just like one of those sitcoms but at the time it was a cultural shift because it was a Now it's just like one of those sitcoms but at the time it was a cultural shift because it was a sitcom that was like actually funny.

Yeah. No and it had a lot going on. So many layers. So many layers. So inclusive. I think everybody saw themselves in someone. Yeah.

It was really a fabulous show. I never like watched it fully but I'm happy that the kids maybe I'll watch it at Nick at Night now.

In college Dana and Sam were like obsessed with Modern Family and they were roommates all four years and like they would never miss an episode like it was their thing always just like watching Modern Family so I do feel quite connected to Modern Family through osmosis no and I watch it like when it's on it's seriously hilarious yeah I feel like maybe I should do like a full rewatch honestly that's a good rewatch show uh

it is except I find Mitchell the redheaded gay brother like I find him so insufferably annoying like so much so sometimes I'm watching it I have to turn it off when he comes on well every show has to have an insufferable annoying character in order for you to appreciate the other ones Susan Meyer Carrie Bradshaw Serena Vanderwoodson Serena Vanderwoodson yeah um we've got a great show today the stories are actually actually really good. We also have toasters. We were just like spitballing back and forth so many stories so little time. I crammed six into the five structure, but could have been seven. And today's really exciting because as paid endorsers of Big Katie, there's a Big Katie

Perry story that I seriously am dying to talk about. Ever since I saw this clip, I have not thought about anything but I said to Jackie last night, Perry story that like I seriously am dying to talk about ever since I saw this clip I have not thought about anything but I said to Jackie last night like seriously Big Katie is making it hard to continue advocating for Big Katie that's what so they better keep paying us the big bucks which they're not which they're not if they were paying us I would have something nice to say today if they were paying us a lot no it would have to be a lot but I have nothing nice to say no and I have actually something really crazy to say that I'll say when we get. It's the third story. So when we get to BKS, the big Katie story.

Right. When we get to the sponsored story. You look cute today. Oh, thank you so much. Just swirling into fall. Oh, my God. It's a little hot today. It's kind of ruining like the vibe I've sort of like I've created this future for myself and it's fall, but it's actually not. It's still fully summer and it's hot as hot today. It's kind of ruining like the vibe I've sort of seen. Like I've created this future for myself and it's fall,

but it's actually not. It's still fully summer and it's hot as fuck today. Yeah. My AC around my house is like getting fixed up. So it's like patchy. In some rooms I'm freezing. In this room I'm warm. But I was going to say,

what is the word for like, not when you're not sponsored by something, it's like the opposite where like you are paid to do damage to the brand. A hit piece? I don't know because remember like during the Jersey Shore days I like once read that designer brands were sending their other competitors bags to like Snooki and and to like wear drunk on the beach like make the competitors bags look bad that's really funny I don't know if there's a name for it but that's a brilliant strategy although mean because seriously like nobody had more influence on me as a child than Nicole Snooki Palizzi.

Like, and I was actually thinking yesterday when I'm done with Desperate Housewives, I do feel like my biological clock is ticking. I have to rewatch Jersey Shore again. Oh, that's a good one. And by the way,

you should maybe do that too. I feel like Zach has never seen it and he would love it. Oh yeah. I mean, we still have watched only those two episodes of Desperate Housewives, so I'll catch you next year.

Oh, we watched like 11 episodes last night. Like, seriously, we can't stop. I don't know. The night's been getting away from me. It's just getting like so late, so fast. And I gave myself a bit of a spray tan last night, so I had to let it set and shower, and I had a loaf in the oven, so I just had a busy night.

It's a nightly affair. I had a busy night. Do I look tan? Yeah. You can't really see me. Oh, yeah, yeah, you do. Thank you. You look archy. Yeah, because it's like I'm wearing shorts down here, yeah. You can't really see me. Oh, yeah, yeah, you do. Thank you. You look argy.

Yeah. Yeah, because it's like I'm wearing shorts down here, so. And I was spray tanned all summer, and it was so gargy. I want to keep up that energy. I'm, like, still really tan, like, from the sun, which is so unparalleled. I love spray tanning. You're never going to catch me saying a bad word about it. But, like, the rubbing off onto clothes, sheets, towels, the maintenance, the scrubbing on,

scrubbing off. Like it is a full time job. The maintenance. Yeah. Let me tell you, having a like a suntan. I know it's so bad for you. Please don't start with me. Is so inspired.

Like I can't really explain to you what it makes me want to do. You know, the confidence. I know you don't lay out in the sun. You don't have the skin tone for it. And I've never like gotten a tan that's lasted. Like, I'll get a sunburn that could turn into a tan, but it's only, like, two good days max. Yeah.

And if I wear sunscreen or, you know, tan, like, any SPF, I just get nothing. So it's not like I really get tan. And so why am I laying out there in sunscreen for nothing? No, I know. I just, I don't want to brag, but I can tell you like it's, there's no greater feeling. Think about how you feel with like a perfect spray tan. It's like, it's like double that. It's double the fun. That's nice. Yeah. I guess you can't miss

what you've never had. So for me, I'm like, okay. I'll take your word for it. I'll take your word for it. Um, we have a lot to do today, so I don't want to rush at all dilly dally but I just want you to be mindful of the clock anything else you want to chit chat about the pre-fast five banner banner banter before we dive in no I'm actually more looking forward to the stories today than any banter that I'm that I would band with my sister I know I feel the same so and also like banter will be immersed throughout I mean we just sort of like sprinkle the banter throughout. Yeah. Yeah.

A sprinkle of banter. So, I mean, I'm down. I don't want to rush you. I'm down if you're down. I'm down. Let's get into it. Let's get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by DraftKings.

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And I enjoy them because I do think they're a sign of the times. It shows us where we're at as a society. And here is who are Dancing with the Stars this year. I want to say, I don't know if we've remarked on it, but I feel like in the past, Dancing with the Stars has always been like a popular show, but it's been considered lowbrow, right? Like you're either on your way up in this world or you're on your way down. And Dancing with the Stars is a stop on that expressway. I feel like in recent years, especially with them being on streaming, which is just like cooler and younger and hipper, I do feel like it has less of a stigma and more people who you never would have considered to be on it are on it but who from this list I was really shocked to see Danny Amendola and

Dwight Howard like those are two premium ass athletes not like people you've never heard of like I don't really follow basketball and I was recently I didn't really follow football and these are two people whose names I had heard of I was surprised to see Dwight Howard I do agree he falls into that box when I saw Danny Amendola it didn't make me think like better of Dancing with the Stars. It just like made me think worse of him. Brooke Snader. I was like, no, she's someone who doesn't need Dancing with the Stars, you know? So here's who's going to be on it.

And then we can assess the class of season 33. Real Houses of Atlanta star Phaedra Parks. Classic. Classic queen. Tori Spelling. I'm shocked she hasn't done it before. I'm shocked she hasn't done it before. That's the shocking part.

33 seasons and this is her first one. And I just, I think, I'm excluding Tori Spelling from what I just said before about them leveling up. Like, just please, leave me alone. That's usual. The shocking part is that she hasn't done it before. This is a surprising one. Eric Roberts,

who's an Academy Award nominee and brother of Julia Roberts and father of Emma. Brother. Yes. Hold on. Emma Roberts' dad. That's a good call. And maybe,

you know, they love to have people, Eric Roberts. Yes. Okay. They should have led with that. That was just me like surmising. First of all, he looks just like Emma. Second of all, you know, yes okay they should have led with that that was just me like surmising they should have led with

it first of all he looks just like Emma second of all you know they love to have people's friends and family come and then like they do a whole story like she's gonna go right a hundred percent she's gonna love it I'm sure she watches unless they're on like the way, I don't know if it was Anna herself, but you know, we had that clip on TikTok about Anna Delvey, like who is, that she's an industry plant. Okay. And like a verified account, like the Delvey files, like liked it and favorited it and like saved it.

That's so funny. Yeah. She is an industry plant like seriously who is going to vote for anna delvey she better be dancing her tail off but no that's such a good point who it's a fan voted show who is voting for anna delvey like seriously just that freak who worked at the hotel and she's probably going to be calling like every 35 seconds like voting as many times as she can every week for Anna Delvey

from her phone her computer her tablet and then everyone else who works at the hotel's tablets too yeah cause she's the one who like planted the story

who like is obsessed with Anna Delvey being in the public sphere she is going to go to the hotel and go to every single room and use like all the tablets in every room

to vote 10 times every week yeah that's it that's it so she better be a good dancer because I really just don't see the fan votes rolling in for her such a good point then NBA champion Dwight Howard surprising I agree I agree Danny Amendola shocking do you think he's still dating Sandra like I

really was I was so into that and then I never. I think if he was yesterday, he's not today. Cause I don't think DeSandra is dating Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's true. Like what's his name? Braxton whenever.

Braxton whenever. Yeah. It's true. Brooke Snyder, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. Shocking. Like cover star to Dancing with the Stars. I'm telling you Dancing with the Stars is on the up. I don't know.

I could, I see it as a useful step for her. Mainstream. She's very digital. Because she has a lot of Instagram success and that whole world knows her. But let's get her on TV

in front of America. I agree. Better start dancing hard. Yeah, right. Then Ilona Mar, like a perfect, perfect. That is, that's a huge get

for Dancing with the Stars the stars yeah but they also have pommel horse steve love love but alona mar is like seriously a national treasure and i just want to say not to make everything about me but i want to go find the episode it wasn't what three years ago when the last olympics were because of covid right they like moved it up where i was on this like i was talking about alona bar before everyone else was like sorry i followed her for years like Classic charity. Just welcome. Yeah, welcome to the club.

We've all been here. Then also Joey from The Bachelor. Grazie. Who said that Venice has this old school vibe? Claudia, it was Athens. Right, even older. It was the city in Greece, like the oldest city in the world had an old school vibe. He was so great about that.

He has a special place in my heart. I don't know him, but I like him. I agree. Do you know what I mean? got good vibes then also what I find surprising is Jen Tran who was just the bachelorette is also competing have we ever had a season where it's two bachelor contestants and I think she was on his season no I mean what a love spark what does this make you think of I don't know Caitlin Brist me, like, one of the craziest things ever was, like, back in the heyday of The Bachelor, when Caitlin, before she was The Bachelorette,

oh, no, after she was The Bachelorette, like, her dream, she was a dancer. Professional dancer, yeah. Before her reality star career. And, like, all she wanted to do was be on Dancing with the Stars, and the creator of the show was like, no, we're not allowed to.

Like, no one's allowed. She, like, begged, begged, begged. And then, like, all these other people went on, and then like all these other people went on and then years later they finally went on no but also previously that like it was a it was a logical pipeline it's abc bachelor to dancing with the stars and only for caitlin was it like oh no we don't want to encourage that because we don't want people coming on the show for fame only for caitlin who's like dream it was to be on dancing with the stars no and now there's two leads in one season yeah but also mike fleiss isn't like in the show anymore. Yeah.

No, but I just think it's interesting because like what if they fall back in love? With each other? On the ballroom dance floor because I just saw Jen Tran, her season ended and she's already not with her mans. He like called her on the phone. Oh, spoiler alert.

It was on after the final rose. He like broke up with her in 15 minutes and then started following Maria from her season. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. That sounds good. It did. I was like reading it.

I'm like tea. Oh my God. And of course, it's no surprise. Jeremy Simon, our cousin, our long lost cousin did not win, but he was accused of going clubbing with Jeremy Simon like right after he broke up with Jen. By the way, that's, that doesn't make Jeremy look bad. Jeremy's single. He's allowed to do whatever he wants.

For sure. No, we need to find Jeremy look bad. Jeremy's single. He's allowed to do whatever he wants. For sure. No, we need to find Jeremy a nice girl. We do. It's not going to be at the clubs. No, it's not, Jeremy. Go to synagogue. Go to synagogue or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor. Or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor.

Like, that's something I need to happen. I hope they've gone out, got to know each other. Should we see if they follow each other? Yes. Also, I have no idea what he looks like. I imagine he's attractive because everyone on the show is, but is he attractive enough? Also, Ariel Franco might have a boyfriend.

She might. She follows Jeremy. Does he follow her? I'm checking, I'm checking. Yes, yes. He does. Oh. Oh, oh, oh.

And he's super cute so very handsome let's get together yeah yeah yeah i'm obsessed maybe they'll save it for paradise if the two of them go on paradise i vow to you i will watch oh okay because what a shit off what a shit off oh oh my god okay look back to oh yeah dancing with the stars someone from pretty little liars summer school named chandler kinney don't know her but you know that that's like the gen z oh i thought it was going to be a boy chandler it's a it's a neutral name it is it is oh no but it's a girl oh i just fully guessed i guess pretty little liars is a show about girls. About pretty little girls. Little girl. Then Reginald Bell Johnson from Family Matters. Okay I feel like they're missing

like a influencer. They always have like a TikToker Gen Z. Now Brooke Snader is an influencer but she's not Gen Z. Like I'm thinking like Charli D'Amelio they had Nash Greer you know every year they have like a musically they don't have their resident TikToker that's bizarre no I mean it probably was a tight season because of the Olympics and then they have like two ABC plants in Bachelor and Bachelorette like spots are filling up there also isn't like an obvious winner when it comes to dancing right like we're always talking about lori hernandez heather from glee like people who are trained dancers people who have like so much background in performing i don't see anyone with that who do you think will win just take like let's just make a bet run it back tell me again okay phaedra, Tori Spelling, Eric Roberts, Anna Delvey, Dwight Howard, Danny Amendola, Brooke Snader, Ilona Marr, Joey from The Bachelor, Chandler Kinney,

Reginald Val Johnson, Jen Tran. Ilona Marr because and there's really not like a super obvious choice but one she already has like the athletic ability I think that's like really hard for people in the first couple of weeks is going from living a regular life like maybe you work out maybe you don't but every single day all day every day doing really really hard routines she has that she plays rugby two she has so many fans she has followers on every platform she has people who will seriously spend all day calling in for her so I with this we'll check back in in a couple of months. But I'm saying Ilona Mar.

I'm voting Dwight Howard. They don't want to lose him. And I feel like it's been a while since we've had like the athlete win, like the male athlete. And that's always like very, like they usually. Iman Shumpert. When did he win? Did he win?

Yeah. But when was that? I don't know. About like two, three years ago. Like not crazy crazy let's see and the fact that Iman Shumpert went on Dancing with the Stars was crazy sense that then Dwight Howard like it's not that incongruous I guess 2021 three years okay so it can be done I'm going Dwight Howard it can be done yeah I but I Dwight Howard. It can be done. Yeah.

But I don't know if Dwight Howard like seriously has any fans. Like who would call? If Dwight Howard has no fans. You're dead. No. Who would like call up? Again, they're fans of his basketball, but those people are not watching. Like Yvonne Shumpert, like his wife, Tiana Taylor, like they have like fans. Okay.

Just saying. Okay. Well, Dwight Howard fans Tiana Taylor, like they have like fans. Okay. Just saying. Okay, well. But it also matters. White hat fans, make yourselves known. It matters who your partner is because those partners have fans too. Yes, yes, it's true. Are you ready for our next story? Is it a woman's world?

No, it's not. No, it's not. It's some more annual news. People's sexiest man alive. The polls are now open and we're getting categories. We're getting nominees and we're getting good guys. We're getting good guys. So they have opened voting for People's Sexiest Man Alive

and all the subcategories that entails. And by the way, just like that Modern Family thing made you feel old, this is making me feel old for I don't know these people really nominated like 2024 sexiest heartthrob nominees Gavin Casalegno who I think is from Summer I Turned Pretty Jeremiah yeah Nicholas Gals a teen from our favorite show yeah and he's and the idea of you the idea of you and um the stars show and he's in Red, White, and Royal Blue, no? That's where like every. Oh, yeah, but I didn't watch it.

But like people are obsessed. No, I think. He's a good nominee. I actually think I'll vote. Oh, and then Manny Jacinto, who I don't know, and Jacob Elordi. Oh. Kind of like a tight race.

Who should I vote for? Although I do want to say, I don't think Jacob Elordi is the sexiest man this year. Like, I feel like he didn't even work this year, you know? So should I vote for Nicholas Galatine wait I'm gonna vote with you I'm gonna vote with you okay this is fun how do I vote oh wait it's at the bottom of the page and it's like a slideshow oh they'd love to do it a slideshow yeah I voted for Nicholas okay seriously not to be like dumb and slow I can't text it to you it to you? Can you email it to me? I'm on my iPad.

Yes, actually, that's much easier. Which email? With a C? Any of them. No, yeah, with a C. Oh, no, with a J. J is on this one. Oh, whoa, whoa.

Like, why is it not coming up as the first result? Oh, maybe because I searched people, Sakai-ist, coat, boat. People, Sakai-ist, coat. result oh maybe because I searched people psychiatrist coat boat people psychiatrist coat oh I got it okay good because I like my iPad is so heartthrob I'm gonna go Nicholas Galitzine okay then sexiest musician Harry Styles role model I don't know who that is I've never heard of that I have only heard of that because that dated Emma Chamberlain for a while. That dated. I'm surprised Lil Mosey's not on here.

Totally. That person was Lil Role Model. Lil Role Model was also on Therapist. That's how I keep up with the young kids on that podcast. So I'm not familiar with the music. And Zach Bryan and Shabuzy. Now you know I'm voting for Shabuzy. I'm voting for Harry Styles.

I just feel like Harry Styles is like Jacob Elordi, like you weren't here this year, sorry. I completely agree. And to be honest, I feel like it should be Zach Bryan. It was his year. But from a physical perspective, he's not my type. Like Harry Styles is my type, so. Okay, who's the sexiest summer action star?

Ryan Gosling in Fall Guy, Ryan Reynolds, Glenn Powell, or Hugh Jackman? Glenn Powell, duh. Who is? Glenn Powell. Duh. Who is the sexiest new dad? This is really inappropriate. Like, I'm sorry. This is someone's father. It is.

Maluma, Robert Pattinson, Cole Tucker, who's Vanessa Hudgens' man. And Justin Bieber. I'm going Robert Pattinson. Of course I'm going Robert Pattinson. Who is the sexiest long married star? I just want to say these categories get dumber and dumber. This is a great category because you know what's sexy? Loyalty.

Fidelity. Yeah. Commitment. Yeah. We have Denzel Washington, Kevin Bacon, Ted Danson, and Tim McGraw. Oh my God. The truckers. I think that was truckers for Tim outside.

I'm going Denzel. Oh. Yeah. Jinx. Jinx going Denzel. Oh, yeah. Jinx. Jinx. Who's the sexiest TV host? Mark Consuelos, Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, or Mario Lopez? Mario Lopez.

By the way, Mario Lopez. I was about to skip this category until I saw him. I was about to say, like, as you were reading them, I hate all these people. But then I wouldn't include Mario Lopez in that. And let me say something. Ben is friends with Mario Lopez. He is seriously the nicest guy on the planet like what you think he is on TV he's exactly like that in person he gets my vote this next category is why this is a story today because they have a category called sexiest podcast host and the nominees are TJ Holmes,

Penn Badgley, the Kelsey brothers and Josh Peck from the good guys. Now, of course, we're voting for Josh Peck. And I really encourage you all to go do that. I think the fact that they put TJ Holmes in here is disgraceful. Not that he's not good looking. Like, seriously, you're not being a podcaster for three months. Doesn't make you a podcaster. OK, no.

This category, I don't feel like I was tied from Josh and the Kelsey brothers. Honestly, like I I don't feel like the other two from Josh and the Kelsey brothers honestly like I I don't feel like the other two are the sexiest men in podcasting or even like honestly I disagree actor like no Penn Badgley these days like his podcast is so big I actually think this category is well done besides for TJ Holmes but I'm voting for Josh obviously I feel like they went out of the way they're out of their way to like not include the actual big male podcasters yeah like where's Jason Bateman Will Arnett should have been here Theo Vaughn oh yeah yeah Will Arnett that's a good one I'm voting for Josh Peck of course please go vote for Josh that'd be so cool for the good guys that would be so cool for the good guys do they

know about this by the way oh my god so I I didn't know if josh knew but i texted him last night in our chat with ben because somebody dm'd it to me and i said oh my god this is so good for the good guys and josh said where in all caps where is bsc yeah and they did do the kelsey brothers they could have done the good guys oh my god that's so true yeah Yeah. No, we're all, like Ben was freaking out. Like we're so excited. This is huge. It's very exciting for TNN, for Gargi Pargi Productions. Like it's very exciting.

No, and Josh has always elevated TNN. And this is seriously taking us to another level. Who is the sexiest dog dad? Can I skip this? Like seriously, that would, like stupid. No no I'm voting for Simu Liu he's my friend I just oh right he's your friend okay I forgot to tell everyone on the podcast I actually hung out with Simu Liu over the summer he was so nice and cool we played pickleball Justin Theroux Max Greenfield and David Bautista I'm gonna vote for your friend Simu my friend Simu who's the

sexiest handyman the Property Brothers Ty Pen Ty Pennington, Chip Gaines, Jonathan Knight. Chip Gaines. But I want to say like them including Ty Pennington from Extreme Makeover Home Edition. Whoever did this like knows me, you know? Yeah. I feel like they actually had like four different people nominating and it was like someone from every realm. There is a Gen Z contributor here, but there also is a Swirly contributor. And I just want to say

like I find the property mothers insufferable next who is the sexiest supportive partner in sports oh I love this this is a stacked category of course Jonathan Owens Simone Biles oh I'm really torn Andre Lebron who's Sydney McLaughlin and we loved their learning about their story at the Olympics they are so cute you have to look at their Instagram they're obsessed with each other who's Sydney McLaughlin. And we loved learning about their story at the Olympics. They are so cute. You have to look at their Instagram. They're obsessed with each other and Jesus. Like they are so cute and pure.

And then Christian McCaffrey, husband to Olivia Coppo. Okay, I want to say something. Like he has my heart, right? He is not, like to me, he's not the same as the other three. Like he, like we knew Christian McCaffrey before he married Olivia Culpo we didn't know Jonathan Owens everyone else has an athlete wife not the athlete themselves but they did say sexiest supportive partner in sports so no I'm sorry Christian McCaffrey I love him more than life itself and Olivia Culpo is my girl for life I'm not voting for him yeah I would

vote for him in a different category though I'm I'm voting for Andre. Do you know who Hunter Woodall is? Is he the one? No. So his wife, Tara, is the one who won gold in the, what is that thing called where you jump in the sand? Gold belt? No, no, but it's like a part of that. They're on the same area of the field.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. They went so viral on TikTok. Long jump, yes. He's really cute, and they like really a moment at the Olympics but I agree, I'm voting for, it's hard because you know

how I feel about Jonathan Owens. Like I've recently like loved him. Okay, you vote for Andre, I'll vote for Jonathan. Okay. This next category, like now we're getting stupid.

We were already stupid. We are getting stupid. We were already stupid but now we've gotten like seriously neurotic. Who makes Brat look sexiest? What? No, seriously, what?

And the only person in this category who's like connected to Brat, actually Brat Summer, is Troye Sivan. And the nominees are Troye Sivan, Joe Jonas, Kyle McLaughlin, and Barry Keoghan. I'm voting for Kyle McLaughlin, Orson. I'm not voting because this is stupid. I'm voting for Orson, but beyond stupid. Likeson i'm not voting because this is stupid i'm voting for orson but beyond stupid like that's where the gen z intern got like too much she's too close to the sun yeah they listened to her too much agreed who's got the sexiest tattoos post malone bad

bunny namar jr jeremy allen white jeremy allen yeah i don't know who't know. Who's the gen sexiest? Capital X for Gen X. Okay, that's a bad way of writing it, but it's a good category. Ethan Hawke, Shamar Moore, Matt Dillon, Benjamin Bratt. One thing about me is I love Criminal Minds and Shamar Moore truly has my heart. And if you ever want to laugh,

I feel like I've brought this up on the podcast a couple of times, but it's worth repeating. Shamar Moore has the most niche passionate fan base of like older women who find him so hot you have to if you ever need to chuckle go read the comments on his Instagram I do it all the time I'm gonna give him my vote um in support of you I believe in his Instagram bio, he like addresses his, oh no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. His Instagram bio is, let's flirt, goofball, inspire, dream, succeed, and beat multiple sclerosis. He's obviously like also has a passion when it comes to philanthropy. He's cause driven.

He has my, he's cause driven. He has my vote. He's, and my heart. Next category. Another stupid one. Which sexy Fiero makes you want to fly? And so it's like the cast of Wicked through the years. Anyone who's ever played Fiero.

Jonathan Bailey, Aaron Tveit, Taye Diggs, Joe McIntyre. I'm going Taye Diggs. I'm going Jonathan Bailey. He's so hot. Who is the sexiest guy on TikTok? Oh my God, Fibula. Brew on the radiook oh my god fibula brew on the radio oh my god he's connor wood noah beck okay i'm literally voting for him fibs because only one of these has been on the toast and i'm literally wait i'm sending it oh i guess then i have to vote for him too who's brew

oh brew on the radio is a radio host for like a iheart radio station but he like went like made his job also tiktok and he dates a big other tiktok no one had really heard of him until he dated the other tiktokter anna exotar do you know her no no she's huge super cute this is a good category i'll vote for connor because he came on the toast of course and i love him oh my god i'm so happy for him that's huge okay oh and now Of course. And I love him. Oh my God, I'm so happy for him. That's huge. Okay. And now I have to give my email address to cast my vote. Oh, I'm doing it.

I want my work to have counted. I'll give like a spam email. Oh, sign up for more newsletters? No, thank you. No, I think I could just cast my vote. Oh no, my email is required. Okay, I'll give a spam email later. Oh, I feel really good that we did that.

Like we did our part. Yeah, we are making our voices heard and raising our voices yeah like a lot of other podcasters are gonna you know encourage you to register to vote at vote.org we're gonna encourage you to register at people magazine.com our next story big katie big big katie news yeah big big Katie news so Katy Perry went on call her daddy she has her new album coming out the episode of call her daddy dropped today and one moment that's really going viral is she's responding to outrage over working with Dr. Luke on her new album because that's really been the lingering question like why is Katy Perry working so closely with Dr. Luke

after everything we know what we know you know what we know. We know what we know. And honestly, she's the first mega star to do it. Recently, Kim Petras, her whole album was done by Dr. Luke. And she's, as much as it pains me, she's not a mega star. You know, I feel like most people listening don't even know any of her music. And so it wasn't as egregious and it wasn't as big of a deal. But Katy Perry, like one of the OG pop girls who's like so famous. This is huge.

Yeah. Oh, and the whole album famous. This is huge. Yeah. So just like the whole album is like about womanhood. Yeah. She was just a little backstory. She's come under fire for collaborating with Dr. Luke, who was behind some of her biggest hits worth knowing. I kissed a girl, California girls, teenage dream and more. The producer, Dr. Luke, was accused of drugging and sexually abusing fellow pop star Kesha

in a 2014 lawsuit, which was settled last year. Her new album includes also Lady Gaga Lady Gaga has never expressly but but she has acknowledged yes like she had he was on trial with Kesha yes yes yes her new album includes songs written and produced by Dr. Luke including the singles Woman's World and Lifetimes so she was asked directly like people are upset that you're working with Dr. Luke. Like, what do you have to say about that decision? She said, quote, I understand that it started a lot of conversations, and he was one of many collaborators

that I collaborated with. I love collaborating with collaborators, don't you? By the way, when I watched the clip, I thought the same thing. Like, use a different word. Yeah. But the reality is, it comes from me, she said. The truth is, I wrote these songs from my experiences

of my whole life going through this metamorphosis, and he was one of the people to help facilitate all that. One of the writers, one of the producers, I am speaking from my own experience. When I speak about woman's world, I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman giving birth, creating life, creating another set of organs, a brain, a heart. I created a whole ass heart and I did it and I'm still doing it. I'm still a matriarch and feeling really grounded in that. That's where I'm speaking from. So I created it all of this with several different collaborators, people that I've collaborated with from the past,

from teenage dream era, all of that. Okay, like seriously, objection, relevance. What the fuck is she talking about? I had so many takeaways from her response and her appearance on the show in general. I think the fact that she was asked this question, she obviously knew she was going to be asked. And this is an answer that her and her team came up with, right? Yes, exactly. It's such a bad answer. And she could have gotten away with having Alex not ask her that question, you know?

And she wanted to address it finally. And this was her big, you know, solve. It's such a bad answer. And I hate when people then bring up motherhood because like seriously that has nothing to do with it and I think that like she thinks if she brings up the fact that she's a mom it like absolves her from something and it actually makes it worse like you're a mom to a daughter I think that the strategy here was like bring it back to the work bring it back to the story you're trying to tell like out of it and I think it's a really bad strategy it's objection relevance there is none to be seen here and I think the things that she's saying about like her voice and and womanhood and all of that like really great stuff doesn't answer the

question at all and like using it as a shield is not a good look for her like honestly she would have been better off saying like fuck Kesha Lukey didn't do it if that's what she thinks because she must think somewhat decently of him to work with him again as she said she had so many collaborators it would have been easy to just take one collaborator off of the album so she obviously like feels decently about him and is working with him so like say with your whole chest don't like do this because you just look weak. And like what? Spineless. And now it's like, wait, so do you think that he did those things and you're still working with him? Or do you not believe that?

And that's why you're working with him because you know, you think he's a good guy. In which case, like say that and like have a spine versus this. No, but also I feel like it's so crazy that Katy Perry worked with this person, right? Because she's not desperate. I could see someone on the up like Kim Petras, like getting Dr. Luke, who you never would have gotten at the level that you're at, to work with you. I can almost see the trade-off, right? What I can't see is someone at Katy Perry's level who has options beyond options, but also how the music industry is still, like there's a structure in place, right?

Like to get work with a pop star like Katy Perry like you have to be in the mix you have to have certain deals and like the music industry is still popping up propping up excuse me this person right like you won't just get access to Katy Perry like you still have to be in the mix how is he still in the mix I think actually it was a bit of a desperate move from Katy Perry to try and like reclaim the greatness of Teenage Dream in those albums because he did work on those things they're amazing music what she's done since then like and in the most recent years like hasn't achieved what those songs did and I actually I think she wanted to do

everything and throw everything at the wall to have an album like teenage dream and if Dr. Luke was such a big part of that then like she doesn't care I I genuinely can't decide how I feel like if she really thinks that he didn't do those things and like I'm gonna work with Luke again like he's my friend or it's like he did those things and I don't care I want a great album and Dr. Luke is the best because like she's also another one who like still wears Balenciaga like Luke is the best I can't yeah by the way amazing point people could just like clip me saying that oh my god no but that's an amazing point me saying fuck Kesha and Dr. Literally by the way you are 100% right I think bringing up Balenciaga is an amazing point because anybody now who's like still showing up and showing up for Balenciaga like seriously has no scruples and I genuinely think that she has no

scruples that's what we've said about her in the past on a, on a more, um, non-serious level, you know, she'll just sing whatever, do whatever. She just wants to like be, uh, popular mix. Um, but yeah, no, I think it's steeper than that when it comes to like working with Dr. Luke and Balenciaga. I don't care. I want great music. I want great clothes.

Like I don't give a rip. No, it's so true. Like we have said this and now it's like actually about more serious things. She is spineless. She stands for nothing. That's a huge takeaway from the interview. And for me, like I'm like on the way to work today, like I did, I listened to Lifetime. The music she's releasing is so good.

I am at this place where I'm completely separating the art from the artist because not only do I think she's spineless and like seriously doesn't give a fuck about anything of great importance. What I took away from just clips, I did not watch her on the podcast. Like she seriously looks like she has one of the most fucking dreadful personalities on the planet. Like when she was laughing about sucking dick for doing the dishes. Like she thought she was being so relatable and real. Like girl, shut up.

You have a housekeeper. Like I seriously, I couldn't look at her. My main takeaway was like Orlando Bloom has to do the dishes. Why? Why is Orlando Bloom doing the dishes? No, by the way, facts. And I think that people go on podcasts, any podcast, to be relatable, right? And they talk about real life things like doing the dishes.

And for the most part, I think it's a pretty sound strategy. Like I have never really walked away from a podcast interview with someone and like hated them because it's relatable and you're just chit-chatting and like the host and it's like well if they like this person like why not oh my god I found her like seriously I thought it was it had the total opposite effect and I'm like up until this point like I'm riding for Katy Perry like I'm like the music is good no one's streaming women's world more than me like but but actually I think it had such a negative effect I can only imagine how what this interview the effect it had on people who already were not feeling her, you know? Like I was giving her a chance.

I'm like rooting for her. I'm like watching the clip. Like, okay, Katie, like, let's do it. Come on. What are we saying? When she's like giggling, I'll suck your neck if you like to. The dish is like. I was seriously like, ew.

And like maybe if her partner wasn't the biggest movie star in the world maybe if it was even like a smaller artist or a businessman beau like I could see what is Orlando Bloom doing in the kitchen. No and by the way now I understand all those news stories when she was on American Idol of her like saying out of pocket shit like I really thought that she was getting like a bad edit like I was seriously up until this point like really writing for Katie and just choosing to see the best in her. no let me tell you she has an absolutely dreadful personality and she just kind of adapts and says what she thinks the person she's talking to wants to hear so like I think that like she's never listened to this podcast her you know

publicist said it's like you know a sex podcast so she goes on there like dick suck cock haha like are you okay I thought it was seriously one of the worst in and by the way I didn't watch it no and the clip it was only one clip that we saw it's like meant to be like a highlight like here's like a trailer yeah a trailer and I was oh if this is what's to come I'm sorry big Katie there's no amount you could spend there's no amount of money big Katie could spend on making me like her in this moment but let me say this and I'll say this I will be listening to the album like her music is really for me like the music I need these days I love you for I love you for life and how sad that that's the one that's Dr. Luke like but I do find like I'm loving

the bops the bops are bopping like as she said the bpm is hitting like there's nothing wrong with the tracks I think they're like like, perfect, perfect little tracks. However, like, I don't feel like a deep connection to the music. And I think that's because you're separating the art from the artist. Like, you can't have, like, we can dance and we can have fun. But it's not, like, making me, like, feel things. And when I listen to Woman's World too closely, I'm like, what are you saying? You have to listen to Woman's World while you're doing something else. Yeah,'s women's world you're lacking to live it like and we're not going nowhere

like where would we be going no and I think that's actually a conversation we had recently because I had seen this article talking about how Dua Lipa has amassed a lot of success while seriously giving nothing to her music when it comes to personal references and that's kind of what Katy Perry is doing and Dua Lipa having success is a complete anomaly that's what that article was about it's not gonna happen for Katy Perry it's not yeah or like yeah you'll get half you'll get some streams and we're gonna put on the party playlist but like it's not like making me feel closer to you as an artist and feel things no and we had said when she was coming out with her new album that like we were really ready to give it a chance because

she's really not released music for a while she went through this huge change she's in this really happy relationship she is a kid like we're ready for that deeper katie moment that's exactly what we said when she announced her album and the way she gave us the opposite of that is shocking like it really points to a lack of self-awareness from her and whoever is like running her brand yeah also I feel like I liked Woman's World more before I saw the music video and now when I listen to the song I see the music video like her just like flying who is Katy Perry who are you um every time I watch listen to the song I'm thinking like who are you because that's like and it's it's not a pleasant experience so for the rest of the

album I won't be watching music videos. I just want to enjoy the music. No, and I won't be keeping up with Katie's press. I won't be watching interviews. Seriously, I think it has a negative adverse effect on me. Yeah, I can't take much more. And I just want to say, everything she said about the metamorphosis she's gone through, being a mother, creating a heart, creating organs, yes, facts. And that is so amazing.

And to not have that be its own conversation, and instead it's like a shield against the- To bring that up in defense of what she's been accused of. It's like, it's shitty. And it's annoying because I would have liked to expand on that. But instead I'm like, wait, you didn't answer the question. Can we go back to the question? Yep. It would have been better if it wasn't asked at all.

Agreed. But do you think Alex could have gotten away with not asking it? Yes. Not with Katie, like amongst, you know, listeners. It's like the elephant in the room. Yeah. Like, I mean, I think she would have gotten backlash, but I think that happens like frequently with anyone who goes on.

Like nobody, and everyone's such a big talker, right? Like I can't believe you didn't ask. Do you know how scary it is to ask that question? Like for real, seriously, I can never. I'm like, I can't believe she didn't ask that. Meanwhile, to me, I'm like, I love Dr. Luke. Like, it's't believe you didn't ask. Do you know how scary it is to ask that question? Like, for real. Seriously, I can never. I'm like, I can't believe she didn't ask that. Meanwhile, it's me. I'm like, I love Dr. Luke. Like, it's scary.

Like, for real. And by the way, it's important to remember, like, these people are journalists. This is not Diane Sawyer, right? So we're just, like, trying to have fun, do our jobs and, like, podcasts. And so it's very easy for everyone to be like, oh, she never asked the right questions. You do it. You do it, bitch. It's fucking scary.

Yeah. Or, like like you know ask a follow-up question like hey wait yeah hold on hold on the organs for a second wait no and it's like oh I had the balls to ask this this question about Dr. Luke like you want me to answer a follow-up one no I don't think so I really don't think so no seriously wait so like do you like Dr. Luke then? Me? No, no, I'm like, that would be, like, the follow-up.

Like, so do you think he did it? Yeah, of course. But seriously, there are so many publicists, producers, everyone's watching, and, like, you're in front of this mega star. No, I think she got clearance to ask the one question. She probably wasn't even listening to the answer. She was like, I asked. No, she was so happy to be done.

That's how I would, like, seriously, that's how I I would have handled it I'm really non-confrontational yeah yeah that is so funny okay are you ready for our next story some more podcast news yeah a new podcast coming on the scene Hawk to a girl is starting a podcast called talk to up. So her name is Haley Welch. And I would really appreciate it if we start calling her by her name instead of Hawk to a girl, but she's now the host of talk to a from Jake Paul's media company better. She's doing her podcast with his company. It debuts later this month.

It includes guests such as Whitney Cummings and Josh Richards. Okay. Wait, I didn't realize that better was Jake Paul's company. I think that's actually a great brand alignment. I think like, you know, we often are criticizing what people name things. They're books. That's one of our, and it's hard to name a podcast

because really all the good ones are taken. This is one of the best names I've ever heard. Like, it's brilliant. Yeah, it is. And everything I've seen of her since her viral fame like every interview she's done or like clips I've seen like she seems like a great girl I think she's gonna have a lot of success and I wish her the best the thing with podcasting is the cream always rises right no one's gonna sit down for an hour

and we can listen to crap right like you could be the most fabulous person ever. And like your podcast sucks. It sucks. Like there's nothing that can help that. So I wish her the best. And you know, I think this will be a real indicator of her success. Like is it 15 minutes or is it a lifetime? As Katie Perry would say. But I feel like she's setting herself up for like long-term success by not like,

she's not doing all the obvious things so quickly. Like she's really building a solid foundation, I think for a career. And I think this is a great idea. And she seems like she can talk. I mean, that's why she went viral, right? Cause she gave a great interview. So that's really a major criteria

for having a successful podcast. Like, do you have interesting things to say? And do people want to listen to you? And I really feel like she's got it. So I completely agree. I wish her the best in the space. Yep. And it's, you know, I. I wish her the best in the space. Yep. And it's, you know, I'd love to see another woman in the industry.

Other women and woman in the industry. Agreed. Other woman in the industry. Yeah. Yeah. So are you ready for our next story? Is it our fifth and final duo? It's our fifth and final duo story.

A little Women of Food Network news making news. Formerly of Food Network network i don't think either of them are associated with the channel anymore yes but for us like they to me they represent like the heyday of food network they remind me of our grandma yeah first up fans are seriously concerned for rachel ray as she appears to slur words in a new cooking video so fans say they're seriously concerned for miss rach as she appears to slur her words in a new cooking video. The chef took to Instagram on Monday to pay tribute to the late Tony Bennett

by making his favorite dish, asobuco, which consists of braised veal shanks with polenta and bread. In the video, she recalls a story of how she almost killed Tony Bennett because she polished the floors. Seriously, I watch a video. I know, I was bored enough the first time.

I don't want to go into it a second time. No, the thing is, is that I think anybody who watched the video in full, like, couldn't even tell you what the video was about because they were looking at her. Like, I, half the comments, the people were split and I actually agreed with them. People really thought that she appeared to have had a stroke because half of her face is sort of sunken and the, like, you know, one half of her mouth, like, is pointed downwards while the other remains, you know, typical.

And then with the slurring of the words words a lot of people thought that she was drunk so I think both of those are decent analyses I hope she's okay I watched the video like knowing that people were saying she was slurring I didn't like really hear a slur it was just like kind of like a wild video to me I can't explain why just like the the accents and the Asabuco and Tony Bennett like she killed Tony Bennett like Rachel Ray it was like that chaotic Rachel Ray energy even though in love it's been 15 years like she's still that girl where I was like what am I watching she is still like in that retro looking 30 minute meals kitchen that show was a cultural reset like for mothers everywhere like she seriously was lessons in chemistry she was and of course like any great cooking show a part of me was like should I be making osso bucco I think it's really hard and I don't know if it's like

kid-friendly oh it wouldn't like really I mean they love beef but it would be like it's veal oh I've never made veal I only like try the veal I only like to deal with like ground chicken beef and turkey because it doesn't feel like an animal anymore no I agree and it's like so little and like you break it up and it's like not offensive like opening like a thick piece of beef like when it's like raw in the middle oh my god it's like call animal control or when you're doing like a whole chicken like yeah and you have to get the gizzards. Yep. I will excuse myself.

That's just not for me. You can purchase it gizzard free. You can. I haven't. I haven't made a whole chicken in like a really long time. Well, back to Miss Rach. I really hope she's okay. She is a queen.

But I also feel like she must be okay because she put this video out. It's not like someone caught her on video like messing things up like this is a very produced piece of content like that's true it's she's giving us the best of Rach's self but I feel like that reminds me a lot of like in Jessica Simpson's book she talked about like at the height of her alcoholism like you're still functioning to a point where like you think no one knows right yeah yeah but you're right that that Rachel Ray has like a whole team for all of her content and I think there's like 8,000 people it needs to go through before it gets to air but what we've seen in the past is like you'd be surprised how many things get published and you know aired that are so

disgraceful and how many people had to look at it you know yeah I think in thinking about it further like I think this is that classic chaotic Rachel Ray energy. Okay. Just like. I think she's having health. I don't think she's an alcoholic. I think she's having like health issues. And I think she's fine now. And maybe there are some side effects.

She had a something. Something. Right. What is it also? Bell's palsy. When, you know, your face freezes. Yeah. I think she might be going through it health wise.

And maybe she doesn't want to share it because people are entitled to medical privacy. And maybe we all need to like give miss rachel space we're we're entitled to medical privacy while also sharing our fave osso bucco recipe like two things can be true what am i doing holding your osso bucco recipe that you made for tony bennett when you almost killed him and privately perhaps having something medical that you're struggling with and i'm holding space for both of those things it's as easy as that folks it's that's Ina how easy is that well our part two of food network I can't believe we spent the entire summer in the Hamptons and didn't see Ina once we didn't go we didn't do the Ina tour like we

didn't go to the places that she frequents it's true like we know where she could be spotted and we avoided them like the plague yeah like I not going to put down any like local great establishment. But she was she wasn't where we were. She wasn't where we were. Our fifth and final story. Another Food Network queen, Sandra Lee, says that she gained 10 pounds judging a Netflix baking competition. Oh, that's funny.

Yeah. Sandra Lee told Page Six she gained 10 pounds in one month while judging a baking competition for Netflix. Honestly, everyone was having a swirly summer ain't that the truth she's fronting the new show blue ribbon banking competition in which champion bakers from state fairs across the u.s face off for the first time in an epic baking showdown to win top honors and a hundred thousand dollars it's their job to sample the goods and pick the hottest bakers and she took it seriously at least if her scale is anything to go by.

That is so funny. She said we had to eat everything we had to taste. Absolutely everything. It was four weeks of a sugar high. And it's not just tasting the dessert. You also have to break it down and taste the cake separately or the crust separately, different from the filling or from the icing.

And sometimes you have to eat more than one portion. I easily gained 10 pounds, she said. Dream job. Like seriously, dream fucking job. And I love to see Sandra Lee out here getting work you know because the food space is really crowded yeah I think it's hard to stand out and it's really changed she and Rach and Rach sort of like built her own empire after Food Network with the Rachel Ray show she had the line of dog food the line of human food the line of

kitchenwares like she really created like I have her um some of her oven baking sheets and I'm sure they're fabulous now yeah they just don't fit in in my oven here anymore it's like a waste but I took my caraway one I think the ladies of that time on food network had to sort of scramble and do their own thing and I think Sandra Lee very much fell into like being a socialite who used to have a show on food network and used to marry to the governor yeah she was married to the governor. Yeah. Before he, you know, was disgraced. Was no longer the governor.

Forced to step down. And so I think it's been hard for her to find a space for herself in this new, very like internet focused, TikTok-y cooking space. And I love that she's getting, you know, booked on gigs. I think that's huge. Yeah. I recently have fallen down like an algorithmic rabbit hole of old Sandra Lee, semi-homemade with Sandra Lee videos.

And like the things that she used to make were seriously so crazy. It's been kind of one of the joys of my life to see when they surface, like to watch them from start to finish. It's insane. Not just even like two shots Sandra Lee, like the time she made a baked potato out of ice cream, because it's hard to get your family to eat ice cream unless you make it look like a brown baked potato.

No, and seriously, that was a very, like, you had to be there at the time. Like the early Food Network days, like, what year was that? We were like in middle school, like 2005, 6, 7. Like, it just hit different. You had to be there to get it. Those were the days.

Desperate Housewives was on the air. Ugg boots, mini skirts. Ugg boots. Mini skirts. Ugg boots with the fur. Like we were living life. We didn't even know what we had. We didn't even know what the fuck. Flip phones. Like sound mental health.

Chapstick. Like flavored. Juicy tubes. Juicy tubes. Hit clicks. Rosebud salve for when your lips were actually chapped. Rosebud salve. Like those are were actually chapped. Budsalve. Like those are the days.

The Olsen twins. We just let it. We took it all for granted. Oh, to be young. That's what the youth is wasted on the young. Ain't that a truth. Oh, kind of major Adele news. You know, she finished her residency.

She's finishing her residency. And when she was singing, Oh, I'm so mad. I'm getting old. It makes me mad. She changed it. To? Glad?

Oh, I'm so glad I'm getting old. Like, seriously, I love that. That song always makes me cry. Always. Oh, I love that. That's like a cultural shift. We should start a list of songs that are guaranteed to always make us cry. In case you don't live forever, let me.

I don't cry all the time from when we were young. No, that one I just can't even listen to because like why ruin my day. I have things to do. But when we were young, like I love that song. Like it's emotional, but like I can, I can handle it. Oh, I can't. I'm strong enough. I'm strong enough to live without you.

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our weekly advice segment? I am ready, Turt. Okay, so every Wednesday, Jax and I do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, where we try to help the girlies out. You can write us, send us an email, deartoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. And you can write in, you know, whatever's

plaguing you, relationships, friendships, weddings, work, things of that nature. I mean, I have selected three submissions today. And if my iPad would just refresh, I would be able to share those with you. I would love to hear the submissions that have been selected once your iPad does refresh itself. We'll use my phone to start until it refreshes. Okay. Okay. Hello, Swirlys. I am getting a breast reduction in two weeks and my PGM of a husband has been really supportive. However, last night he told me he wants to do a boudoir

photo shoot before the surgery so that he can look back at my larger boobs whenever he wants to. I'm not opposed to boudoir photo shoots in general, but my husband knows that one of the major reasons I'm getting a reduction is because I don't feel sexy with these larger breasts and they make me incredibly insecure. I really don't want to do the photo shoot, but I also don't want to take away his joy. Any advice? Should I suck it up and do it or stand my ground and not do it? For context, I lost about 30 pounds last year. Shout out to Ozempic. Everywhere except my breasts. So now I'm dealing with severe back pain from cowering around G-cups on a smaller frame.

I'm going down to a C-cup, so still not tiny. And I'll still maintain my milk ducts for breastfeeding. This is a story that hits really close because Jackie and I, you know, one day, very soon. We count the days. That we will be getting our breasts. Maybe we'll go in together. We'll take the whole week off. A two for one special.

It will be when we're both done having all of our kids. It will be the greatest day. So I'm so happy for you. Let's just, before we get into your husband ruining things, let's talk about

how excited we are for you. It's such, it's an exciting time in a young girl's life and we are so happy and also jealous. So congrats for taking the leap. It's huge.

This is something like you are doing for yourself and I need you to tell your husband to fuck all the way off. Don't you dare do this photo shoot for him. Yeah. Also it can be a sexy boudoir photo shoot if you're not like feeling yourself, right? Like it's not going to, pictures aren't going to come out like the way he thinks because you have to be in that mood and that's not how you feel right now so I don't think like it could really even be achieved and you shouldn't put yourself in an uncomfortable situation like that and it's like you don't want to remember so I think he needs to like move on from that but I would be curious from toasters in the comments like I feel

like sometimes when women get a breast reduction like their husbands aren't you know it's not what they would have wanted they love yeah the big titties but then you get like a new boobs and a c cup is a lovely set like how do the husbands feel about the new boobs I feel like we never get like an update like do they yeah because husbands are wrong about everything right so like they're sitting here crying like my big titted wife and then next thing you know in a month he's got like a porn star for a wife she's got perfect tits and he never brings it up again because he's very I'm just curious do they know are they very happy do they like move on do they lament about the old boobs can someone who's like or I'm sure a lot of you have like been in this situation like can you sound off what happens next like is it does

it only get better from here and you just need to tell him like wait you're gonna be happy or do they like sit around every day like here lies Shannon like here lies my wife's former boobs no this is just annoying because like this is a thing you're doing for yourself right obviously for your confidence because you're saying you're struggling with feeling sexy but also for your physical health like your back is killing you we have all been there okay so the fact that he's making this about himself is very turdicoded and beyond unacceptable like do first of all like tangible advice please do not do this photo shoot like I think it actually sets a bad precedent that like this milestone for you

becomes about your dumb ass husband okay and like tell him just to keep up with the support and shut the fuck up yeah I just the photo shoot is like a lot of to do something that you don't want to do yeah it's not like okay I'll go to this dinner it's like a photo shoot yeah I have to get all gussied up and it's expensive too like to have those things done like please seriously like do not do it and the fact that you said I don't want to do it like you have to get stripped down like do not do it yeah wishing you well wishing you well now this next one is so crazy and you know this is a scenario where we kind of just need to take the toaster and shake her. Okay. A shaken toaster. Hello, Jackson Turdy.

Long time toaster here. I'm in desperate need of your advice. I think my boyfriend is lying about his job and his apartment. When we started dating, he said he worked security for a sports team. He told me detailed stories about the job, the players, et cetera. He has since quit the job just before the season started. And a source who has a connection to the security team just revealed that my boyfriend's name doesn't sound familiar.

I've asked him about the security company he worked for and the company does not exist according to Google and he doesn't ever want to continue talking about it. Additionally, he tells me he has his own apartment in the city and he has shown me pictures of it. However, he says he prefers to be in the suburbs at his parents' house and he once told me we couldn't stay the night at his apartment after a wedding because his grandma was sick and she was staying there. I feel really icky about this, but I don't want to accuse him of anything

because everything else about our relationship is 10 out of 10. I love him and I legit feel like he's the one. Do I do some digging, hire a PI? I'm a concerned swirly who may soon be a heartbroken. Your relationship is 10 out of 10, but you want to hire a PI? That's not 10 out of 10. If you can't even trust a word that comes out of his mouth about basic things, you have to confront him and then also be prepared to dump him like I want to say break up with your boyfriend but like

maybe there's a logical explanation maybe he's jobless maybe he is living at home of course he's living at home and maybe he's ashamed and maybe he can cop to those things and maybe if he can then your 10 out of 10 relationship can move forward but like you've got to get to the bottom of what he's lying about no No. And I would say like, you know, you don't know anything until you ask. Right. Although the evidence is really,

and like grandma wasn't staying, grandma wasn't staying downtown when she was sick. Right. Like she was at the hospital or she was at maybe her kid's house, which is your parents' house. Like who goes to stay at a bachelor pad? What grandma stays at a bachelor pad downtown when they're sick? No.

And I really worry that like you've been in this relationship and you've never seen his apartment and that didn't raise a red flag for you at all and I think you're you probably you honestly sound like a hopeless romantic and I think that actually just really is blurring your vision like I think you're making you know decision bad decisions I think it must be a five six month relationship due to the fact that it was a sports thing. Like, and he wasn't working because it wasn't the season and now the season's starting again.

So it's probably five, six months and she's trying to like figure out, okay, yeah, it's weird. I haven't gone to his apartment. And I think now's the time to ask questions. And I'm sorry, your relationship can't be 10 out of 10 when you don't have trust. Like you don't trust him.

You don't believe him. Like, how do you even believe that when he says he's going to go do that? Like you have to get to the bottom of this and be prepared to end the relationship because he's a liar. But if he has like a really good, I'm going to hold out hope that if he has a really good reason for lying. This could be like a sitcom.

Like obviously the evidence is so obvious and then you ask and there's like a perfectly logical explanation. Yeah. It's like, oh, my grandma lost her job and she's in my apartment and she didn't want you to like, whatever. Me to tell you you and so i moved back home with my parents even though like why wouldn't grandma move to the parents house i don't know jackie this man is homeless and jobless okay let's just put it there and and those things that could change in a day you know you could get a job fortunes change tomorrow so that's not necessarily a deal breaker

the lying is the deal breaker that you can't become a non-liar tomorrow and I just fear like based on the way you wrote it like you sound like you just don't want to believe it and like it really like your man's lying so you have to confront him yeah things shouldn't be so confusing simple things should not be so confusing yeah um our third and final one is a touchy subject hey pargies so glad you're back because i really need your help my boyfriend and i don't agree on a touchy subject i want to sell feet pics and he is not on board well i can see why he hates the idea i feel the benefits way outweigh the cons it's incredibly lucrative i don't have to show my face and i vetted the sites where i can be safe. I love my boyfriend and I don't want to lie to him but I have school loans.

Signed, a business swirly. I don't see the downside with feed pictures, right? That's exactly what she's saying. It's extremely lucrative. Your personal information is not out there. Pictures of your face are not out there. No one will ever know. Is it really that lucrative? I think so. so i think if you've got good feet i don't think anybody could just be out here making money i don't feel like it's a low lift like if you lucrative i feel like that argument there's enough volume of it it's like kind of like cameos right you could do it you know 25 bucks that's not a lot of money you do 20 a day but remember they on vanderpump rules they did feet pics to raise money for raquel's nose job and they couldn't raise money.

And those are like a lot of attractive girls, famous even. I don't know if like Vanderpump Rules is a fair like reference point for this. I just feel like if feet pics were really and truly like a very lucrative space, like wouldn't everyone do it? Jackie, I think a lot of people do it like that and because it's so anonymous like you don't know about it and they just move on with their life and honestly

it sounds like she's also done a decent amount of research and she knows what she could be earning because if it's enough to make a significant debt in your school loans like girl do it I'm sorry yeah I don't I really just don't see the downside if it's like all this money's waiting for are we missing something is there a big downside? Sound off in the comments. Like, I don't think so. I guess like you could have like, it's creepy people who are now like invested in you. Maybe you could get some stalkers.

Yeah, but if you don't share any of your personal information, like how do you get stalked? You're just like hoarding creepiness. Hoarding freaks. Yeah, you need to go into the process knowing like everyone, all your customers are seriously like unwell and don't tell them anything about you yeah yeah and it's not like you're

mailing them like you're literally texting them like I don't see the downside but I don't know what the downside would be I don't know enough about the industry I think you should but I also think like a theme like also he's your boyfriend like you're still making decisions for yourself like he doesn't get like that much of us no ring no decision no bring to the table unless he wants to pay your student loans or has a better idea for how you could do so I love that why doesn't he make the monthly payments to uh the gov.gov yeah also kind of a theme I'm sensing from the first and the third submission is like and one is a husband and one's a boyfriend but it's the same sort of theme is like do whatever you want like please don't like men are so dumb like like if you listen to everything they say

you'll be worse off like make your own decisions only you know best you know what's best for yourself and it's important to consult your husband on like important things but like when it comes to your boobs that's your own business when it comes to your feet and it's your boyfriend that's your own business it's important to consult your husband on, like, important things. But, like, when it comes to your boobs, that's your own business. When it comes to your feet and it's your boyfriend, that's your own business. It's important to consult your husband on important things. But, like, when it's your boyfriend, you don't get the same sort of reverence. You don't get the same say. You just don't. You don't.

You don't. Maybe if you married me, you could have a say. Yeah. And these loans become our loans. That's a perfect solution. Yeah, I know. If he's, like, contributing towards the loans and in a marriage, that's how it works. Like, of course, you have a say in how we pay these off.

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