The Toast - Big Footed Toasters: Wednesday, November 16th, 2022

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Wednesday! Oh my god, it is someday! Don't forget I'm someone you love. It's also merch launch day, which is so exciting. And it's merch launch day! Claudia and I are wearing inverted crewnecks from the crewnecks we wore yesterday. I'm wearing toasty lights in pink.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Claudia's wearing white. I was wondering, like, can we wear our pajamas on the show? Because we need to promote them. Okay, let's talk about that. They're so gorgeous. But then we're sitting here in pajamas. No, I mean, who fucking cares about that? At least you're in your house. Like, I would have to get in an Uber in my pajamas, which is mortifying, but not something I'm above. Personally, I was going to wear my pajamas today. But when I tell you the black ones, I've been wearing like three nights in a row, like they're due for a wash and I was not going to put on the white ones and show my legs on the podcast so I was left with no choice but to model this gorgeous
Starting point is 00:00:53 white crew neck from toastmerch.com understood okay so I have I have license to wear pajamas in the show that's exciting maybe I'll wait until Friday it's like little crazy. And I feel like if people don't know we're launching merch and they just see these girls in their pajamas. Here's the thing. First of all, I don't think it's that crazy. Second of all, like, really? We're now making decisions based on what people will think? No, but like if we're trying to attract new viewers
Starting point is 00:01:19 and then they're like, these girls are in their pajamas. If I stumbled across a podcast where two fabulous girls were sitting wearing gorgeous, well-made, perfect button-sized pajamas, I would say, you know what? These girls, they've got charisma. That's what I would say. Okay. I mean, not everyone is as open-minded as you. That's so true, actually.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Like, I really am kind of, like, ahead of my time. You're so open-mindedminded open to trying new things never someone to just say no to something just cuz no and like stubborn is not a word I don't think anyone would use to define me antonym antonym it's giving antonym antonym yeah no they would never. They could never. So our holiday collection has officially launched at ToastMerch.com. You can shop all of our new apparel, which is crewnecks, pajamas. You can shop our accessories for holiday.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We've got mugs, blankets, slippers. It's really a stunning collection. We have ornaments. The ornaments always sell out really quick. I guess we're big in the Christian and Catholic communities. That's just us, like Jewish queens. And it's just a fabulous time to be a toaster. Toastmerch.com.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It is limited inventory. We have a lot of inventory, but not unlimited. So make sure you head over to toastmerch.com, get everything you want for you. If you want to send this episode to the man or woman in your life to buy it for you, that's a good idea we have pijam pijow slippers I believe they're one size um so if you've got like an extra big foot I don't know maybe shy away maybe this isn't the product for you I don't know if it's gonna happen I don't is it one size
Starting point is 00:03:01 yeah and for me like the slippers they're're, they are, they fit nicely. There's definitely room to grow. But I'm a size seven and I fit really nicely in them. But the thing is, we are constantly encouraging room to grow. So it's really on brand for us. Yeah. Yeah. But I just like want to say like, if you got a big foot, like I don't.
Starting point is 00:03:21 If you got a big foot, maybe check out our mugs. If you got a big foot, like I don't. If you got a big foot, maybe check out our mugs. But like they are like a very average size because I have a really small foot and there's space. Yeah, there's space. They're average size. So I would say if your foot is bigger or smaller than average, I just want to give you a heads up
Starting point is 00:03:39 because I feel like if I was a big footed toaster and I got them, like I'd be kind of annoyed. I would say, you know, Jackie and Claudia don't support the Bigfoot community. And you would be right about that. So again, maybe check out some of the other offerings at ToastMerch.com. Yeah, this one is not for you. Not for you.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So it's hump day. I'm sure everyone already knows what's on the agenda. Hump someone you love, Fast Five, and Deer Toasters. And we have some really interesting Deer Toasters today that I do think will pose um some some interesting dialogue great can't wait also did you see that update about last week's dear toasters in the toast after dark facebook group yes about the girl whose cousin who was like 16 was pregnant yeah so long story short she was lying yeah she's just like a big liar. It's giving Paul Giamatti a big fat liar.
Starting point is 00:04:28 She's like a troubled teen who is making things up for attention. And it's obviously not about that. There's something deeper going on with her. So thank you to everyone who put in there two cents. But it wasn't needed. Everyone should know that update and not worry about what the 16-year-old's going to do. Yeah, it wasn't needed. Everyone should know that update and not worry about what the 16-year-old's going to do. Yeah, it wasn't needed. The girl who wrote in was duped, as were we as a community.
Starting point is 00:04:51 As were we. As were the Bigfooted Toasters. The BFTs. We're going to be one of those podcasts that talks about Bigfoot, but not the scary dog who lives in the woods. Today's episode is an expose on bigfoot and why you shouldn't buy our slippers from shop morning toast.com toast merch toast merch.com but shop morning toast.com still works because that really rolls off the tongue after years
Starting point is 00:05:18 it is going to take some adjusting for me to like be my promo girly and not automatically go shop morning toast.com. Yeah, I understand. Oh, so wait, I have to tell you, I, um, I went to two of me and Ben's friends got engaged last night and they had like a, obviously like we were all waiting after they got engaged. It was really cute and fun. And I met, I feel like you wouldn't appreciate this, but a lot of the toasters will. And the person who appreciated it the most is Olivia's husband, Zach Shapiro, because I sent him a picture of me and this girl and he is obsessed. So, and I feel like I've quoted her on the podcast before. How do you know that?
Starting point is 00:05:55 I follow Erica. She's a lawyer who reads a fine print. That's why I follow her. She's like, honestly, like a TikTok icon. And I got to meet her last night. You quoted that before. So I went up to her and I was like, that's why I follow Erica.
Starting point is 00:06:06 She reads the fine print. So I don't have to. And she was like living for my energy. That's so exciting. And I sent a picture of me and her to Zach Shapiro. I'm like, he was starstruck on my behalf. It was amazing. Glorious.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Congrats to your friends. Thank you. Yeah, it was a nice night. I'm egg-h I'm exhausted Monday and Tuesday I woke up at 4 a.m that's like not something I do but you know I did what I had to do to get back to New York on Monday yesterday I went on television to like talk about my hour like expanding booming business multi-billion dollar industry um And so last night I went to bed at 10 and I woke up at 9 today. And when I tell you, I feel worse. No, sometimes I've actually been getting,
Starting point is 00:06:51 I don't want to jinx it, but like decent sleep because Harry's like pretty much going all the way now. And I'm more tired than ever. So I have recently very sadly come to the conclusion because for years I have prioritized sleep. Like I have recently very sadly come to the conclusion because for years I have prioritized sleep. Like I will say no to many different things because it interferes with my weekday sleep. And I recently came to the very sad conclusion that I might have been missing out on things for the last couple of years for no reason because I think I think I'm getting too much sleep. That's a thing. There is such thing as too much sleep. But I do think that going out versus having like a relaxing night in and then going to
Starting point is 00:07:26 sleep at a normal hour, like is you do feel more energized. The other night I stayed up till 2 a.m. And the next day I was not well. Oh, man. What were you doing? You crazy teenager up till 2 a.m. I had some friends over and it wasn't even crazy. We were just like chit chatting all night long.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And they were at my house till 1. Girls night, like mom's night in. It was crazy. MNI. MNI. So the next day, like I was literally trying to, it was worse than ever. So it does make a difference. But then this weekend, there were a few nights where I got like some nice chunky sleep.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And I'm still so tired. The science of sleep is very interesting. I'm just meant to be tired. I think I'm just meant to be asleep. Actually, I've been noticing my energy levels. Like, of course, when I wake up, like I am don't talk to me, but like throughout the day, I'm not I'm not like so tired right now. I just need to chug this. Yeah, I just feel as though there's definitely a lot of research on the science of sleep and it would definitely behoove me to look into it because I think I'm doing it all wrong. I think that you should give your fortune to sleep research because there's not enough of it
Starting point is 00:08:39 and we need answers. It is such a big part of life. Sleeping is literally 50% of the 8 billion people's activity. And I always am hearing about different successful people going on podcasts and talking about their sleep habits, how they've discovered the perfect thing for them, the amount of hours, what to do before bed. And I really need to get in tune with my body because I'm really sick of being tired. And you think I'm annoying and energetic now? I'm operating at seriously 50%. You know what you need.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Let me think. What do I need? An aura ring. Do I though? To let you know about your sleep. Says let me tell you about you. I don't think that's in depth enough. Like I need an actual team of scientists to study my body like for real I need Elon Elon because Elon went on
Starting point is 00:09:32 Elon went on Joe Rogan and Joe Rogan was asking him about his sleep because I guess like a lot of successful like very smart people have unique sleeping habits and Elon was like I honestly I sleep six hours and Joe Rogan was like well that seems like a lot for like a crazy genius, you know? And he was like, no, I tried the whole four hours thing and I was tired. So I started sleeping more. It was extremely rational. So by that logic, I'm always tired. I need to be sleeping more.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But when I tell you like I, for the last, like literally for the last five years, on the weekdays, I prioritize sleep so much. Like I am in bed no later than nine o'clock. Let's be real. I'm in bed since like six. No, but you lights out, tick tock down at what time? Seriously, 1030, maybe 11.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like I really am very good about that. And you know, I have the luxury of designing my own life. I'm a business owner. So I wake up at 830 slash nine. That's a lot of fucking sleep. That might be too much sleep. But I agree that a lot of successful people like don't sleep.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Right. But they also and they find themselves energized. They find themselves energized. But also like that gives them more hours in the day to be successful. Successful things. Right. But there is something in the successful community about sleep that we haven't that us lay people haven't been told yet. No, telling you the successful the elite class in this country is holding on to
Starting point is 00:10:50 information they are keeping secrets from the lay people about how to be like the perfectly balanced sleeper do you think that they also maybe have drugs that um no give them the like you know like the movie limitless no i don't think so because big pharma is like so obsessed with like monetizing on pharmaceuticals if there was like a miracle drug big pharma would capitalize it like big pharma's capitaling is right now on that shot that everyone's taking to lose weight like they're capitalizing on the moment the diabetes drugs right so if there was something out there. But wait, but wait, hold on. Counter thought. If there was something out there that could make
Starting point is 00:11:30 so many people so smart and successful, that would actually ultimately fringe on big pharma's margins because there would be medium pharma, small pharma, you know, boutique pharma. And ultimately, I think that they would lose market share. So you're saying by giving access to this limitless drug, big pharma has a lot to lose. Therefore, they're not giving access to it. Yes, I think so. No, that's something to think about for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Not us deconstructing big pharma. It's all in a day's work here at the Toast. Oh, so is the Fast Five and Dear Toasters, which we're going to get into. And what should be another fabulous day of being the Toasters? Unless you're a BFT, in which case today's not your day. It's not a great day to be a Bigfoot Toaster.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Let's just say that. But other days are really good days to be Bigfoot Toasters because it's like sizes that most people don't buy. So you can usually get the style that you want in your size. It's really exciting. You know, if you have a very common average foot size, you're clamoring with everybody else for the latest trends. I guess what we're trying to say here is big footed toasters.
Starting point is 00:12:39 We see you. We love you. We stand with you, but just slightly far away because your feet are so damn big i have a question on a woman what do you think is like nine big no no nine is is like i feel like a nine is like a six you know on the but see this is what's so fucked up about society like if you have a size six which is like a little bit below average you're like oh yeah she has a size six it's so cute if you have a size nine which is like a little bit above average oh you're a big footed clod hop motherfucker like you're like a good like a giant no but I would say like a six
Starting point is 00:13:21 is still in the range of normal foot and so is nine. Yeah, no, I think when you enter the double digits, things get a little hairy. A little dicey. And maybe you could try men's. You could try Sears. Yeah. No, that's an interesting question. What size are you?
Starting point is 00:13:37 I am a six and a half, seven, depending on if it's a shoe that uses a sock or am I barefooted in it. Are you a barefoot Contessa? Like in a flat, I'm a six and a half because there's no extra room. But in a boot, oh, I need a bigger boot. I can't get like a sock in. I'm the same thing. One size up. I'm like a seven and a half, eight because I'm like so perfectly average in every single way.
Starting point is 00:13:59 You're so average size in every way. I'm just so average. It's really like underrated I completely agree I don't love that phrase and just like that general sentiment like why fit in when you were born to stand out just as for fitting in like it's a very you know low pressure low stress life and not everyone can stand out let's be real yeah and also like you don't want to stand out in every department no that's so true it's like embarrassing personality like you know but I think you pick one or two things that are like your thing I love that thank you McClard so what's your thing where do I begin where's your place I think honestly like my thing where I'm
Starting point is 00:14:47 like above average and like I stand out is obviously like looks beauty grace um but actually like it's personality which is just sounds like a euphemism for ugly but I'm not I'm not ugly I don't know there's so many pretty funny people yeah no I definitely think like my if I have to ever like lean on my talent my talent is my personality like charisma like I really am like I'm not weird in social situations that's my thing I would say what about you I agree with you that's your thing yeah you no I'm saying what about you oh what about me what do I think? No, not us having a hard time communicating today. Like, no, I figured I figured as much. I think.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I think I think recently my thing is my brain. Not to say I'm like so smart, but I think I'm just like a thinker. You know, I don't think brain means smart. I think it means like curiosity, a thirst for knowledge. Interested, interesting. Yeah. I think your brain. Like if I'm having a conversation with someone, like I'm going to rely on like what I know and what I want to know. No, I think that's, that's very smart of you. I agree. Thank you. Look at you using your brain. Thank you, my heart. Look at you, using your brain.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Once again. So we've got a great show. A really promising endeavor. I concur, since I chose the stories, and I feel good about them. Oh, God. What do we have today? Royal this, royal that, royal this, royal that? There's actually only one royal story today,
Starting point is 00:16:20 and it's about the Princess of Genovia. Oh. And I think everybody wants to know about it oh I do yeah so without further ado not to get off track again but like what happened with your Taylor Swift tickets are you going to the show I'm so glad you brought that up here's the thing I don't want anyone to worry about me um because I will be going you know I am in a position where it's like whatever it takes like I will I will get there and I'm very fortunate to be in that position what you're saying is whatever it takes
Starting point is 00:16:50 I know I can make it through no I've literally been singing the Degrassi theme song since yesterday but here's what happened me and Margo both registered for verified pre-sale I didn't get it but Margo did which is all we. Exactly at 10 o'clock yesterday, we get online. We're in the queue for probably three hours. It froze. You're not supposed to leave. Don't leave. Don't leave. We were halfway through when it froze. Eventually, hours later, we got through and we got to the thing. And there's one, literally one ticket in the back. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And there was like a couple on the floor all the way in the back. And Margo just wanted to like pull trigger and get them. But they were like expensive. And that's not what I wanted.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like one thing about me, I'd rather be in the stands in a lower row than on the floor in the back row. You know, I think it's very delicate balance. And I don't like making hasty decisions. The floor, there's no incline. Yes, I know. And Margo was like anything on the floor. I'm like, no, actually. Like I'd rather be in like row four in a good section with a riser than row 50
Starting point is 00:17:46 in the floor except that she does come out into the floor we both got floor seats for reputation tour and we had a ball okay exactly reputation tour I spent literally every dollar to my name and I was in the second row on the floor like yeah that's that's worth it in my opinion but spending like a thousand dollars a ticket that's what it was after taxes and fees, to be in like row 30 on the floor, Margo was like, let's just get it. And I was like, no. And I hesitated and then they disappeared
Starting point is 00:18:11 and then she blamed me. But I stand by what I did, like for real. I agree. Also like, can't you get tickets? Yes. So here's the thing. I'm going to- Let me finish my sentence,
Starting point is 00:18:21 not like, because I don't want to say because you're like, you know, famous or whatever. No, that's not what I was saying. No, but that's what maybe someone would have thought I was about to say. Can't you just buy tickets like it's a regular concert, you know, the week before the show? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There's going to be bad tickets, good tickets, expensive, cheap, like everything. Yes. So I will not be concerned. So today I am going to go again for the Capital One at two o'clock. And I'm going to try. And again, if there's not seats that I want, like I'm not going to buy them. First of all, I'm not going to go again for the Capital One at two o'clock. And I'm going to try. And again, if there's not seats that I want, like I'm not going to buy them. First of all, I'm not going
Starting point is 00:18:49 to take tickets away from somebody who would actually want those seats. And I would be like begrudgingly purchasing them. And two, yes, like just like any other concert, there will be tickets on StubHub. People already started putting them up for like $17,000. That will go down. We're still like eight months out from the first show. So just keep that in mind. It will go down. We're still like eight months out from the first show. So just keep that in mind. It will go down. I'm going to try again today. If I don't get what I want, I'm just going to wait and I'm going to be like trolling resale sites. And if that's what I have to do, that's what I have to do. It sucks. And I could complain about it or I could just be a grown up and just do it. Yeah. So that's what I'm going to I will say you know like I understand because I'm also like
Starting point is 00:19:28 deeply and toxically obsessed with Taylor Swift like probably to a level that is unhealthy but some of the behavior I was seeing yesterday like people sobbing like seriously they lost a loved one that they couldn't get tickets at the queue I really think like people are not okay like it was so not normal some of the TikToks I was seeing like I couldn't get tickets at the queue. I really think like people are not okay. Like it was so not normal. Some of the TikToks I was seeing, like I couldn't get tickets. And it's totally sad. And like, I feel for you,
Starting point is 00:19:51 but like we need some perspective. You know, there are people that are dying. So just keep that in mind. Like I wasn't, I wasn't happy. I'm going to persevere and I'll end up with the tickets that I'm meant to get because you will bloom where you were planted.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You will. And you know what if I don't get pre-sale tickets like I'm not able to pay face value I'm glad someone else is because you know what I can afford to pay a little bit more like let's be real so if someone else gets it and not me it's okay it's beautiful and I trust me I have tried using all my connections to get like free tickets free tickets or, like, it's not a thing. Like, trust me. Like, I tried to be, like, annoying. Like, hi, yeah, like, I'm a girl with no job. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So thank you for asking for an update. I hope everyone got the tickets that they wanted yesterday or today or tomorrow. You know what? We're all in this together and it's going to be okay. It is. And everything will like calm down. I'm sure the people, I don't think a lot of scalpers got her pre-sale tickets. That's not what's on Ticketmaster. I think it's like real fans who realize that they got something great. And then they're like, how much would someone have to pay me to not go and see Taylor? What money would I have to make? And then they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:02 okay, 17,000. You want to pay it, I won't go. But those people are going to go. People were really angry at Ticketmaster. One, because like, what did we all sign up for? We all got a number in the queue. Like you did all these things to prevent a crash. And it literally crashed within an hour. And two, like how is it that like all these real fans are still waiting for tickets
Starting point is 00:21:22 and resale sites are being flooded with resale tickets from people who are clearly not enormous fans. I think it's a combination of people being like, yeah, if someone would pay me $17,000, this is capitalism. You'd love to see a small business owner getting out there. But I do think a lot of it is also like scalpers and bots. And it's like, how have you not been able to prevent this? How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:21:45 But it's like, Ticketmaster has really kind of shady intentions because they also own like resale markets. So it's like they also stand to benefit from the resale market. So it's just a little shady. Like it's giving mafia, for real. And I can't even blame Taylor because like as an artist, first of all, you have literally no choice. Like most of my shows are sold on Ticketmaster and like Live Nation and those two. There's nothing you could do about it. There's nowhere else to go, first of all. And
Starting point is 00:22:17 you have no power. You need them. So you can't even blame Taylor. Yeah. No, I'm not. And I mean, even though this is annoying for her fans, like it's just a testament to her power. So it's like it's bittersweet for her, I'm sure. Yeah. But yesterday she was nominated for a bunch of Grammys. So she like everyone is literally we're burning down stadiums. People are screaming, throwing up, tweeting.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And Taylor's comes on Instagram. We're like, oh, finally, an update because we're all sitting here frozen in the queue she goes so honored to be nominated for a Grammy and it's like we're happy for you girl but like we're not okay yeah I forgot the Grammy nominations and stories do you want yeah of course cool cool cool okay without further ado it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of something delicious for breakfast. Maybe a pancake. Maybe it's toast. In which case you would hear this.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 off it's actual magic and a lot of these non-stick things have toxins in them caraway is non-toxic so it's checking every box it's a no-brainer first story grammy nominations who to thunk here are some of the nominations in the biggest categories this year for the 2023 grammys record of the year don't shut Shut Me Down by ABBA. Easy On Me, Adele. Break My Soul, Beyonce. Good Morning, Gorgeous, Mary J. Blige. You and Me on the Rock, Brandi Carlile featuring Lucius.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Woman, Doja Cat. Zuma. Zuma, Zuma, Zuma. I didn't realize. Let me be your Zuma. That obviously has to win. It's kind of the record of our year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 The Heart Part 5, Kendrick Lamar, About Dantime Lizzo, as it was Harry Styles. So I firmly believe, of course, everyone is, you know, deserving, but I do think this will be the year of Harry Styles. I think his music was quite literally everywhere. It's great music. It really was the song of the year. About to End Time is like right behind.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Like I do think that also could win, but I do think this will, like Harry will sweep the Grammys this year. He's like, he's been nominated in the past. I don't even know if he's won, but he's never really had this like major moment. He's never had his Grammys moment. I agree that I think that this year is it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I don't know if Grammys does this intentionally. Probably not. It's probably a coincidence. But I feel like every year is someone's year. Yeah. You know, and they win in the few big categories. But that makes sense if they're the best in one and they should be the best in all.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Agreed. And I think that it will be Harry's year. And I think that it should be Harry's year. Me too. Last year, it was Lizzo and Olivia Rodrigo. It was like every award was just like Lizzo, Olivia Rodrigo, Lizzo. Before that, it was like Billie Eilish. Everyone really, I feel like that happens at a lot of award shows.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like this is my favorite reference. You can add it to the list of things I always talk about. But Slumdog Millionaire, like when they were at the Oscars, like it was every single award they were nominated for. It was a sweep. And that doesn't happen every time. But I do think this will be a Harry Styles sweep. I think it's very deserved.
Starting point is 00:27:29 This was the year of Harry Styles. He works incredibly hard. His music is so popular. It's so global. He has amazing sales. Like it's going to be the year of Harry. I agree. I actually feel like recently,
Starting point is 00:27:42 maybe in the movie categories, they're doing like this thing where each movie wins in one category. We're all winners. And I just like a big fat sweep. You know, because that's generally how it is. Tell me unequivocally what is the creme de la creme. That means cream.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, I agree. And that's generally like as a culture, like that's usually what happens. Like in culture, one thing really like takes off every year. Um, and I just feel like I couldn't go anywhere or open any app without being confronted with a song from Harry's house. And what was so crazy was like, I was just like busy when his album came out and I feel like I sat down to listen to it maybe two months after it came out. And the way I literally already knew all the songs, because I had just been so familiar with them from like TikTok, from social media, from commercials.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like it was really everywhere. The radio. So I think that constitutes album of the year. Yeah. Well, here are the nominees for album of the year. Voyage by ABBA. 30, Adele. Un Verano Sinti, Bad Bunny.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Renaissance, Beyonce. Good Morning Gorgeous, Mary J. Blige. In These Silent Days, Brandi Carlile, Music of the Spheres, Coldplay, Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, Kendrick Lamar, Special, Lizzo, Harry's House, Harry Styles. Okay, I feel like the only person who actually might compete with Harry is Bad Bunny.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Hold on. Bless you. She's done it, it's true. Oh my God, not me literally predicting the Grammys. Because, and see, I don't know what the Grammys um because and see I don't know what the Grammys constitute like the Grammys obviously like is an American award show um but Bad Bunny literally is probably the biggest global artist in the world um and I don't know if that means anything to the Grammys because like the Recording Academy is very much like an American thing
Starting point is 00:29:19 but I don't know I feel like to count for something. I feel like also Beyonce is going to give him a run for his money. Yeah. Yeah. Even though I personally really enjoyed Renaissance, I didn't see it. Like when I, when I think of Grammys for album of the year record of the year, I,
Starting point is 00:29:35 I think a lot, a huge part of it is like, did I see it everywhere? Like on every social media and with Renaissance, I actually really didn't like there was break my soul. Like was her single and it was like a good single and it was popular. It was on the radio. And then I feel like other things from Renaissance, I actually really didn't. Like there was Break My Soul like was her single and it was like a good single and it was popular, it was on the radio. And then I feel like other things from Renaissance
Starting point is 00:29:49 like really didn't get picked up. The only thing that was like one TikTok trend. It's like a dance that I tried to do and it's so embarrassing like how bad of a dancer I am. What's the dance? Because there's something I'm thinking of but I can't remember. We getting fucked up tonight.
Starting point is 00:30:12 You don't see stuff you see that you you and me that you it's literally one dance move but it's like you need to have actual rhythm to do it um and that's something a lot of people don't possess and it's like people have been doing the dance and like it's actually become like a funny thing where it's like we're just really like applauding people for trying because it's such a simple dance. But it's so complicated. I got to check it out. Send me the clip. Yeah. You know who did a really good one?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Ashley Darby. She's killing it on TikTok, by the way. I've seen some of her stuff. I love that for her. Song of the year. A, B, C, D, E, F, U by Gayle and Co. You're kidding me.
Starting point is 00:30:49 No, that's like A, B, C, right? F, U, and your mom, and your sister, and your job. It's insane. That's like 10 things I hate about you being nominated.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yes, it's exactly the same genre. Your favorite song. You know what song I heard recently? Because I, on my new running playlist, it's exactly the same genre your favorite song i heard recently because i on my new running playlist it's all this like teenage angst humble brag music oh yeah i went for a run um twinkle twinkle you know that one twinkle twinkle little bitch why you're such a narcissist no it's literally like cringe music.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I like it. I know. But I can't believe it's Grammy worthy. No, that's insane. Yeah. About damn time by Lizzo and co all too well. 10 minute version,
Starting point is 00:31:37 Taylor Swift and Liz Rose as it was by Harry Styles and co bad habit. Steve Lacey and Co. Break My Soul, Beyonce and Co. Easy On Me, Adele Adkins and Greg Kirsten. Not Adele having a last name. So true. That's crazy. What's Madonna's last name?
Starting point is 00:31:58 I don't know. Imagine it's like Cohen. Lift shits. God Did, DJ Khaled and Co. The the heart part five Kendrick Lamar and co just like that Bonnie Raitt only Bonnie Raitt you hate to see country not getting into the song of the year category so I went to a list of snubs of this year and there are a lot of snubs country as a whole was snubbed in the big four categories Morgan Wallen is uh super snubbed yeah I think people would have thought that wasted on you would have been nominated in some of these categories um because when you look at the
Starting point is 00:32:36 numbers and you know Kanye loves to say you they say you gotta sell it to smash the Grammy Grammys really cares about like streams and sales. That's like a huge factor when they're deciding on who to nominate. And whatever you think of Morgan Wallen, you actually can't ignore the fact that like he has the biggest numbers like in the industry. Like it's at, he's breaking records. Same with Luke Holmes.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Like country has really blown up because of the two of them in the last couple of years. They're like two of the biggest artists in country, but like really in America like they're doing stadium tours they're playing the same venues as Taylor Swift that's bigger than like Selena Gomez Katy Perry you know what I mean bigger than a lot of the pop girlies and I feel like they're constantly being ignored and it's crazy yeah also Nicki Minaj was snubbed and she had spoken a few weeks ago about how they were putting her song in the pop category
Starting point is 00:33:29 instead of the rap category which was already a snub but she wasn't she wasn't even nominated in pop. One thing about me I'm the baddest Also on my running playlist. One thing about Nicki Minaj
Starting point is 00:33:42 and I've been like a hater in the past is like she is talented. Like she actually genuinely cannot make a bad song yeah no I'm like I'm obsessed no I'm I'm actually obsessed new artist always an interesting category and there's a lot of snubs wait just back to that sorry for song of the year prediction like I do think it'll be between Lizzo Harry and Taylor Swift like Taylor's like when you think of song of the year you think it should be all too well 10 minute version sorry like I know you just think of the song that's like always on the radio always at the clubs and like all too well is a song that people sought out to stream and watch on YouTube like by themselves it wasn't like consumed a lot in public do you know what I mean also it's a 10
Starting point is 00:34:19 minute version means it's three times better than all these other songs it's it needs to win I'm like I don't even want to discuss the other songs can have their opportunity in other categories agreed it's like not my problem the other songs can try sears it's not my problem where they decide to get their joy so it's not our problem new artist anita anita omar apollo domi and jd Anita, Omar Apollo, Domi and JD Beck, Mooney Long, Samara Joy, Lotto, Mainskin, Toby Nui... Oh, this one has a pronunciation. Oh, hold on. Toby Nui Gay, Molly Tuttle, and Wetleg. I haven't heard of any of these, like, except for a few.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And I do think it'll be Mainskin. Except for Mainskin, because they're from Eurovision. Eurovision. They're the winners of Eurovision. And honestly, we were watching Eurovision and I was like, who are these people? I would like, I don't even remember their performance. They have blown up, especially in the States,
Starting point is 00:35:16 which is crazy because I think they're Dutch. It's really, it's unprecedented. And I do actually think they deserve to win. Yes. Also snubs for the new artist category, according to Billboard Billboard which actually did a pretty good snub and surprise list. Em, Behold, Dove Cameron, Gail, Tate McRae, Lauren Spencer-Smith. Okay, wait. That's such a good call, Tate McRae.
Starting point is 00:35:40 The thing is, the Grammys are really interesting to me. And Gail was nominated for song of the year with ABCDEFU. Right. Um, but the Grammys, like I'm very curious, like how much of a part TikTok plays in the Grammys. Obviously it's a contributing factor, but like Tate McRae, Lauren Spencer Smith, they're TikTok artists. Like obviously they're now expanding beyond that, Tate McRae, Lauren Spencer Smith, they're TikTok artists. Like obviously they're now expanding beyond that, but like that's what people associate them as. More so Lauren Spencer.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I feel like Tate McRae has kind of evolved a little bit out of that, but both of them are TikTok girlies. And I'm curious like how much of an impact TikTok has on Grammys. They have to consider it, obviously. I think that it's one thing, just like radio is one thing. Just like streaming is one thing. You know, just like concert ticket sales are one thing. I think it's just's one thing just like radio is one thing just like streaming is one thing you know just like concert ticket sales are one thing I think it's just one thing yeah also I think snubbed
Starting point is 00:36:31 Mimi Webb is my best new artist of the year Mimi Webb is really not that big in America that's the only thing you're like that's why you're LARPing you're LARPing in Britain like you're not in New York right you're not in Florida right now like you're as Americans we're gonna be falling behind right no and on the global stage Mimi Webb we're sleeping on Little Mix and we continue to stay asleep and it's like I'm awake over here no on the global stage it's like embarrassing as Americans I hear you yeah best pop solo performance easy on me Adele I think Adele is not going to win I don't think she's gonna even come yeah I feel like you know when it could be your year and you know when it's not and I don't think artists huge artists really are gonna waste their time going I actually think Adele might go because
Starting point is 00:37:16 like she's kind of going to everything recently oh that's true she's out and about she's very available and she lives in LA she got that big old compound that she bought there's a party down the street sure why not sure and she loves a good time I think she can appreciate the other people who win whenever she's like gone and someone else wins she's so happy for them like I feel like that's just like the energy she could be putting forth I think if Beyonce goes Adele will go because like Adele is obsessed with Beyonce. Yeah. Moscow Mule, Bad Bunny, Woman, Doja Cat, Bad Habits, Steve Lacey, About Dantai, and Lizzo as it was Harry Styles. I don't really care about the particular genre categories because that just feels like people who couldn't make it in the of the year categories.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But we just go to country really quick. Yep. On my way. Because I want to know who Billboard had as a snub. I feel like there's probably ones I didn't even think about. Hold on. Country solo performance. Heart first, Kelsey Ballerini.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So good. Something in the orange, Zach Bryan. In his arms, Miranda Lambert. Circles around this town, Maren Morris. Live forever, Willie Nelson. Where the fuck is Luke Combs? His album. He's in country album of the year.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Oh, he is in country song of the year with doing this. And he is in country duo group performance without running your memory. Oh, OK. OK. But his album should have been nominated for album of the year. It's my album. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:38:42 So this category is really interesting because I feel like, I feel like it might be like an underdog situation with Zach Bryan. Are you into Zach Bryan at all? Is that the one that you were just talking about? No, that's Tyler Childers, but like it's the same vibe. Like I discovered them both on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Zach Bryan is so cute. He's a Swifty and I'm like 95% sure his girlfriend is a toaster. Like you just absolutely love to see it. And he's just like insanely talented. And his music is so good. And it's like this. The last time I was talking about Tyler Childers, I was like struggling to explain what genre he was.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's very much like folks, bluegrass vibe. I kept saying alternative. And that's like not it. Like folksy, bluegrass music. It's country but like really stripped down. And it's really beautiful and he has like this cult following and I feel like he could because there's not like an obvious winner to me in that in that country category because Luke Holmes and Morgan Wallen were both snubbed and well there's a bunch of that's the country solar performance yeah he could win that but I just feel like it's gonna be like Willie
Starting point is 00:39:41 Nelson or something totally like they don't know how to rate country music. Sorry. No, they don't. They should really bring in some, some gorgeous Jewish consultants. No. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:52 and that's, and we're obsessed with country. So that's what I feel about country. I'm sure everybody who is obsessed with other categories are feeling like they don't know how to rate their categories either. So true. You know, I think that's the frustration with the Grammys right there.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So true. Um, country duo group performance wishful drinking Ingrid Andres and Sam Hunt hate that song yeah it's not as good as it should be considering the two of them are wonderful agreed Midnight Rider's Prayer Brothers Osborne I love them but I don't even know what song that is me neither Outrunning Your Memory, which is it, period. Everyone go home. You guys had an all too well. It's the best song. It's literally the best song.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Outrunning your memory. McClard. You'd love this bar. I stumbled on. I sound like good, right? No, but this is the best part. Ready? Cause you've been right here in this truck since San Antone.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like not me going to San Antone, you know? Girls trip. Girls trip. Does He Love You revisited Reba McEntire and Dolly Parton. I'm sure they'll win even though, no offense, never heard of it. No, no offense. Never wanted to be that girl. Carly Parson, Ashley McBride.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Great song. That is a great song. Great song. Going Where the Lonely Go, Robert Plant, and Alison Krauss. Oh, Alison Krauss is like a country legend, but who's Robert? Country album. Let's talk. Let's talk.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Growing Up, Luke Combs. For me, this is it. Done. Everybody go home. It wasn't going to happen for you this is it done everybody go home it wasn't gonna happen for you this year maybe try next year no maybe you should try releasing music like a year maybe that Luke Combs is taking off because if you're gonna be in the category in the running with Luke Combs like you are gonna lose sweetie okay in our hearts and minds at least for sure yeah you're all you're all losers to me Palomino miranda lambert actually an amazing album
Starting point is 00:41:47 i listened to a lot of it ashy mcbride presents lindville it's hard for me it's hard for me to root against ashy mcbride when i so deeply love and respect her when you're her number one fan right i'm her number one fan and i just want to say like she's so underrated she's so talented Martha you put your hands on the wrong damn man this time so good Humble Quest Maren Morris you know not my favorite Maren Morris album and i'm really like a i feel like i know all of her music and i didn't even get into this one like more than once agreed and a beautiful time by willie nelson okay like sure next is country song so circles circles around. Circles Around This Town,
Starting point is 00:42:45 Maren Morris and Co. Good song, but I don't think of the year. And also, I mean, I'm sure it's the single and it's one they put forth, but like,
Starting point is 00:42:54 I don't even think it's the best one from the album. I thought it was really good. Like a great country bop. Doing this, Luke Holmes. Yes. I'd have a Friday night crowd
Starting point is 00:43:04 in the palm of my hand cup of brown look a cup of buddies no honestly i know i say all the time like i would take a bullet but when i really think about it like i actually would take a bullet for luke holmes because the way he likes to keep doing what he's doing the world would suffer without. Like the world would suffer without me too, but like on a smaller scale, I think. And I would lay my life out on the line for this man. Okay, but I'm about to switch things up for you because also nominated is
Starting point is 00:43:36 I Bet You Think About Me, Taylor's version. Oh shit. Okay, this is the thing. I can, two things can be true. They're both amazing songs. But when I think about country song of the year, to be honest, neither one of them to me are actually the songs of the thing. I can, two things can be true. They're both amazing songs. But when I think about country song of the year, to be honest, neither one of them to me are actually the songs of the year. I feel like doing this doesn't even get played on the radio.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And definitely, I bet you think about me. You listen to country radio a lot? Yeah. Where? In the radio. There's no more country radio station in New York. Yeah, it's so true. Justice for 94.7 Nash FM.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Like, bring it back. I'll literally, I'll do an hour. I'll do an hour every day. Nash FM. You should donate your fortune to bring back Nash FM as like public radio service. Quick question. What fortune are you fucking talking about? I'm just saying like in the hypothetical conversation of like,
Starting point is 00:44:18 okay, you're Jeff Bezos. You have a hundred million dollars and you're doing the giving pledge. Like where are you giving all your money? You know where I'm giving it to? Nash Nights Live. I'm giving it to New York Country Music Education.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I'm going to bring I'm going to give it to the Nashville Country Music Hall of Fame Taylor Swift Education Center for them to open up
Starting point is 00:44:39 a branch right here in New York. And the branch is in my living room. Yeah so you're donating to the arts. You're a patron of the arts. One thing about me is I support the arts okay let's finish this country song of the year if I was a cowboy Miranda Lambert and co I'll love you till the day I die
Starting point is 00:44:55 Willie Nelson and co and Cody Johnson till you can't honestly I don't feel like any one of them was like the biggest song in country this year no me neither not that i know what the biggest song in country is but also billboard had said that um cody johnson till you can't was passed over for song of the year and should have been nominated based on like popularity i don't know you probably wouldn't i don't yeah i can't recall it but i'm sure i would know it if I heard it. Cody Johnson is like one of those people who are like, it's real country. It's not that pop country crap they play on the radio.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Like Cody Johnson is like the face of like real country. And people are obsessed with him. I know nothing about him, but they call him Kojo. And I think him and Kojo should get together and write a book. Hundred percent. A sexy country book country book oh I kind of love also it's worth noting I'm loving this billboard article um no country album has received an album of the year nomination since Casey Musgraves golden hour and I just want to say I know it was like it was a really bad year to be giving nominations out to Morgan Wallen but his timing for that scandal could not
Starting point is 00:46:06 have been worse because his album 30 the dangerous the double album was the biggest album of the year in terms of numbers streams sales and he would have gotten a nomination had he not been like you know blacklisted from everything also it was the biggest album in terms of length uh it was like 100 songs but that doesn't that doesn't automatically give you like I'm sorry if you everything. Also, it was the biggest album in terms of length. It was like a hundred songs. But that doesn't, that doesn't automatically give you, you could have released an album of crap. If you have more fire songs,
Starting point is 00:46:32 it's better than an album with less fire songs. Not, not to say that's why he should have been nominated, but it's like commendable that he literally put out a hundred fire flame songs. There's no skips. There's no skips on that album or me. I agree.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That was like a really tough time to be like into Morgan Wallen music. And then like you saw this and you were like, oh my God, I can't listen. But like you were like, the music was really good. So it was like hard to stop listening, you know? Yeah. I feel like he's probably had to make peace
Starting point is 00:47:03 with the fact that like these sorts of accolades like are not going to be coming his way and he has to just you know either continue on or not I don't know if that'll change but I think we're very much still in like the ignoring Morgan Wallen phase country is like very slowly let him back and he goes to award shows he doesn't really win stuff and I think he gets nominated now but doesn't win in categories where he obviously should I'm not sure did he perform at the CMAs this year no um they're very much like keeping him as at arm's length he doesn't seem like the kind of person who would care so much about industry stuff like this but I imagine for him it's like okay
Starting point is 00:47:40 you know that side of things isn't going to happen for me. But then he sees like other people who have committed like worse crimes, said worse things. And they get their, you know, they take their hiatus and then they're back like nothing ever happened. And and he's kind of like stuck. And he's like, why? At its core, I think that's fundamentally the problem with like the whole, you know, scandals and cancellations is because it's really people get treated case by case differently some people it's just based on the timing of when things happen the scale how many people actually care it's always like it's different punishments for different people and they're not always equal and they don't always make sense so I think
Starting point is 00:48:21 fundamentally that's what's the problem with cancel culture because like if we're going to cancel everyone like everyone gets the same punishment for all. But some people there's just like amnesia. Yeah, some people just forget. And it's like, oh, you were accused of sexual assault. I never heard of that. Or like you said this thing. Like you just, it's like, oh, do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Totally. No, it's so true. And other people, it's like the lead headline in every article. Right, like you cannot bring their name up without bringing up their scandal from however many years ago it's interesting so I will be watching the Grammys I happen to really enjoy the Grammys um because I'm a patron of several different genres and I'm obviously of course hugely influential on TikTok and so I know a lot about music yeah you really do so the Grammys are February 5th
Starting point is 00:49:06 feels like a long time away but yeah it does the nominations are here okay we need to move on yeah to our next story which is a little more music news because there's like something going on between Drake and Taylor Swift yes okay so Drake posted the Billboard Hot 100, which he has totally taken over with his new album, Her Loss. And he has eight out of the ten spots on the Billboard Hot 100. He has numbers two through nine. Number one is Taylor Swift. Number ten is Unholy with Sam Smith and Kim Petras. And he posted a screenshot of the Hot 100 and he put emojis over Taylor's name and Taylor's song and said,
Starting point is 00:49:44 21 Savage, congrats my brother, because they took over the list. of the hot 100 and he put emojis over taylor's name and taylor's song and said uh 21 savage congrats my brother because they took over the list but he didn't block out the other non-drake 21 savage artists and people were speculating that there is definitely some shade there then drake's producer also seemingly shaded midnight um he took a screenshot on his own Instagram and wrote, the world knows what the real number one song is. Hashtag rich flex, no tricks on this side. So, so I guess the beef is that they're- Accusing Taylor of some tricks.
Starting point is 00:50:17 So what, what song was number one? Anti-hero? Anti-sneech-ass hero. Yeah, so I guess the beef is that they're accusing her of like either, you know, doing something to keep her spot on the number one chart. I don't really feel like Taylor's at a place in her life where she needs to do that.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And it sounds like Drake is just a sore loser. And this is not cool because one thing I've always really liked about Drake is like his relationship with Taylor. I feel like it was like a year ago that he randomly posted a picture of them on their Instagram like recently or right there I saw recently I saw yesterday the picture is gone the pic is gone beef is there's beef stew in the caraway it's a chillin There's a chillant for Shabbat. That's not good. I like Drake, my Jewish king.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But Taylor and, you know, Protestant Taylor is the queen of my heart. Body and soul. Is she Protestant? I don't know, but I was just like making a point. Like, even though Drake is Jewish, like I do stand with Taylor. Got it. You know who else is Protestant? The queen. Queen Victoria. Queen Elizabeth. got it you know who else is protestant the queen queen victoria queen elizabeth um this is just i hate like reporting on something where we have literally no information
Starting point is 00:51:35 but there's beef and that sucks but can i ask a question can i ask you a question have you ever i forget the lyrics and i've tried to put them out of my head because they're weird um and how is it that last week Taylor took over the hot 100 with so with all of her songs and then this week only one is still in the hot 100 when I feel like no less swifties are streaming the songs well I think it might not have to do with, like, less Swifties, but it's like now Drake has entered the chat. Yes, but even, like, number 10 being unholy, like, where's Midnight? No, that's a good call.
Starting point is 00:52:17 And Antihero, I guess it's getting on the radio, so that has something to do with Billboard. But, like, we're all just listening to the whole album. No, that's true. But, like, but like billboard those charts are like so antiquated because they like still it's like radio airplay so so many of those things contribute to what makes the number one single and that's that's taylor's game like taylor all these artists have very much like moved on from like the old school way of dropping music and like radio hits radio singles taylor does it the old school way because these things like Billboard like they actually matter to her you know what and and maybe I'm also just like a pop girly so I see Taylor's stuff but then I look at these um Grammy nominations for song of the
Starting point is 00:52:54 year and like if it wasn't a single I don't know it no it's true and like you forget like the way that you feel about like pop and country there's literally millions of Drake fans who feel that way about Drake and don't fuck with Taylor Swift so his new album entering the category it makes sense why he would cut out a lot of her yes that makes sense to me but number 10 being unholy didn't make sense to me you know that she had one through 10 a mere week ago and a mere week ago and I can't imagine I'm the only one I was barely listening to Midnight's whereas now this week I'm listening every day well I think most people have the opposite experience. I feel like the longer it's out, the more you listen to it.
Starting point is 00:53:29 If you're like a real diehard fan, you know? Oh my god, so I'm diehard for Taylor. You are. I think in the, like, through the lens of the Big Bang Theory, I am. Yeah. Through the lens of you and Margot, I'm a hater. Yeah. And that's on Perspective.
Starting point is 00:53:47 100%. Are you ready for our next story? I really am. Some Christmas drama legal news. Mariah Carey has been denied the Queen of Christmas title in a trademark case. Mariah got a lump of coal in her stocking before the holiday this year. tuesday the u.s
Starting point is 00:54:06 trademark trial and appeal board ruled against the pop divas legal attempt to trademark the name queen of christmas it was also ruled that she can't trademark the titles princess of christmas of christmas or qoc for queen of christmas either the decision means that the regal holiday monikers can still be used by another singer elizabeth chan who says she's the world's only full-time pop christmas recording artist well her and michael buble but elizabeth who has put out 12 albums of christmas music to date has also used the title princess of christmas as a nickname for her daughter and sometimes collaborator whose name is noelle i think this this woman is the queen of Christmas. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Mariah was attempting to trademark the queen of Christmas title via her company called Lotion LLC to use on a line of merchandise that would include albums, fragrances, pet accessories, sunglasses, and more. But Chan filed an opposition in the case earlier this year. Other singers, such as Christmas Baby Please Come Home singer Darlene Love, also objected to mariah's move and the attorney who rocked chan said in a statement this was a classic case of trademark bullying we are pleased with the victory and delighted that we were able to help elizabeth
Starting point is 00:55:13 fight back against mariah's overreaching trademark registrations elizabeth told page six quote i did this to protect and save christmas christmas isn't about one single person it's about everybody you know what she's a hundred percent right justice for that and and I and I want to say I agree with Elizabeth like there really can't be one queen of Christmas and if there had to be it would be Mrs. Claus and so the fact that like everyone's out here kind of forgetting about Mrs. Claus is hella disrespectful yeah and she stays silent on the matter because she's not someone who would like get in the mud she doesn't want to be a polarizing figure she's literally the queen of christmas for all right and like she doesn't have to prove herself as the queen of christmas you know like this is
Starting point is 00:55:55 like something who are her last name is jockeying to be the queen of christmas but it's so true mrs claus has it in the bag also of course of course, all I want for Christmas is the best Christmas song of all time. Period. There's nothing to be said after that. Agreed. But. One Christmas song does not make the queen of Christmas. Because if that was the case, then I do think, you know, who else could throw her hat in the ring as the queen of christmas it would be miss kelly clarkson of course you're here where you should
Starting point is 00:56:29 be snow is falling as the camera sing no one was in the same alone on christmas day but then one day everything changed you're all I need. Underneath the tree. Literally, people who hate our singing episodes like this episode, not for you. You know who should stay away today? People who hate singing and the big footed toasters. And the Grinch, because it's extremely festive. So true.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So, Christmas for all. Sounds like justice was served and the American legal judicial system is finally doing its thing. Yeah. I think it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. And Mariah can still be the colloquial queen of Christmas. Agreed. But so can anyone who wants to be.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Agreed. Agreed. Our next story is really crazy. And I know that you're gonna have some strong feelings Jana Kramer says that she was ghosted by Chris Evans after he smelled her asparagus pee on a date just listen to the story so Jana Kramer has a podcast and Chris Evans we know Chris Evans was named sexiest man alive last week, as we also know. And so she opened up on her podcast about her brief romance with Chris Evans about 10 years ago and how things between them soured after a very embarrassing bathroom incident.
Starting point is 00:57:57 She revealed that she agreed. Sorry, she agreed with the choice to name him sexiest man alive and then talked about how they met at a club when she was 26 and went on a few dates more than 10 years ago. She said he was definitely known. He wasn't Captain America, but he was the heartthrob cutie. I can't remember how many days it was. I just remember the last date. She said one night Chris invited her to his home in Studio City to hang out with his friends. She said, quote, it was a fun time, but I was getting a little sleepy. And so I was like, I'm going to go to bed. I had asparagus for dinner that night. So I went to the bathroom and he immediately went after me. And so that's the last interaction that I remember is him
Starting point is 00:58:33 going into the bathroom after I just went to the bathroom with asparagus pain. She said that she never heard from Chris again after leaving the next morning. And she called her exit the asparagus walk of shame. She said, i don't remember cuddling that night that's always been in the back of my mind whenever i think about or see chris evans or captain america and i'm like i had stinky pee okay that's actually really funny i know um i thought it was gonna be like she did something disgusting like but no he used the bathroom after her which is just like genuinely like a fucking rude thing to do like wait a minute bitch like it's just like it's also kind of gross and you know studio do like wait a minute bitch like it's just like
Starting point is 00:59:05 it's also kind of gross and you know studio city you have a big house like use a different bathroom like totally I like find like whatever Jana Kramer's in the news it's like her podcast she's like fighting with her husband or something like she's like they're not together anymore but you would never know what I mean like she's no it's just like she's kind of become like this like clickbaity like kind of like annoying. And it's made me honestly just like find her annoying. But I have to say this story is actually hilarious and relatable and truly warmed my heart. Totally.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And so real. And it's like imagine for 10 years, every time you saw Chris Evans, like on TV, on a magazine, it's like, oh, my Asparagus. I do think like, you know, she should have known better being, you know, even the possibility of, I don't know, maybe she had asparagus and she didn't know Chris Evans was going to ask her out. The possibility of knowing Chris Evans means you never eat asparagus. Like she should have known better in that sense.
Starting point is 00:59:58 But you know, we're all human and we all make mistakes. Yeah. Who knows if she ate it on the date or before and then he invited him over. No, even if she ate it before, the fact that she's in the you know I'm dating Chris Evans means no chipotle no asparagus like we're eating clean we're eating green we're eating healthy like okay but there are things asparagus is clean and green oh shit you're right no but asparagus is known you know it's like so are beans but you know if I'm going on dates with Chris Evans even if I don't even if it's Tuesday and I have a date with Chris Evans on Friday I'm not eating beans greens asparagus I'm not eating any of that shit
Starting point is 01:00:33 agreed I'm literally eating lettuce this is an unfortunate event she also said that she has since dm'd him I think like since she's been single, she didn't say whether or not he responded. I kind of ship, but. Kind of, but like honestly, they're too, they're too different now. Like because of her podcast and her marriage, like she has been kind of put into like a Z-list category and he's very, very A-list. So I don't think it's going to work.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Yes, I hear you, but I raise you one wells adams and sarah highland nick vile and january jones how come only how come only the men of lesser fame get to be with a list gg hadid and taylor not taylor tyler cameron yep how come only that was one men of lesser fame get to hit it that's true and i was saying yesterday how like if it's a man of lesser fame, no. Woman of lesser fame, yes. Also, let's not forget she's on One Tree Hill. Like that's pretty cool. No, Friday Night Lights.
Starting point is 01:01:39 She was on One Tree Hill and Entourage. And I need you to never utter those words again and move on. Pivot. She was on Friday Night Lights. That's pretty cool. Move on. Move on. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Anyways, I thought that was a great story. Fifth and final. I thank Jennifer for sharing. And this is what podcasts are for. I agree. I just want to say, this is why the art of podcasting was invented and why celebrities should have podcasts to share with us lay people funny celebrity anecdotes such as this. I also think it's kind of disgusting of Chris Evans
Starting point is 01:02:13 to like have a powder room that doesn't have like a Febreze or a candle. Like I just think that's, as my people would say, zelo covered. It's not respectful. It's not nice. Chris is advocate here. It was over 10 years ago. He's a bachelor in Hollywood. Like you'll be happy if he has a fitted sheet on the over 10 years ago he's a bachelor in Hollywood like
Starting point is 01:02:25 you'll be happy if he has a fitted sheet on the bed no he's a bachelor in Hollywood but he's also like a rich actor with like housekeepers and interior designers get a candle get an incense Chris's advocate here this was before Captain America you know he was doing what's your number a few movies here yeah he had plenty of money he had money but maybe he was doing what's your number a few movies here and there he had plenty of money he had money but maybe he was saving because he didn't know how his career was gonna go saving so you can't buy a candle but you could buy a whole house okay but what if he has a candle in his bathroom but it wasn't lit because nobody hadn't made a duty yet and would it have been better if Jana lit the candle and signaled to the party that there was
Starting point is 01:03:07 a smelly situation? No here's what you do if there's a candle and you made a smelly thing you take the match you light the match and then you blow it out and you drop it in the toilet and flush because the sulfur from the match will get rid of any smell and then you wait like 30 seconds so that he doesn't walk in and smell match. no but it smells like match and then at this point match smells like duty because people only do that when they make a duty match does smell like duty like when i smell a match i'm either like oh birthday cake or oh duty it depends you can tell the difference because it has a different smell when it's blown out immediately. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:47 This is when the wax has a chance to melt. Also, am I smelling a match in the bathroom or am I smelling a match in the kitchen? Also, match is fire on wood. Birthday is fire on wax. Wax. It's different. You're right. Different smell. So, my final question is, would you rather Chris Evans thought you made a duty with your match or asparagus pee?
Starting point is 01:04:10 You know, that's actually really interesting because if he thought I made a duty with my match, he'd be like, all right, she poops like everyone else. But she's a lady who cleans up after herself and lit a match. If he smells the asparagus pee, he might think there's something wrong with me. Like I have, you know, some condition. Yeah. That's why. Because it's so unnatural. That's why you just shouldn't use the restroom. Yeah, no eating or drinking for
Starting point is 01:04:33 48 hours before you see Chris Evans. Yeah. Now we know. Sometimes you have to learn things the hard way. Agreed. Our fifth and final story. A little royal news. Miracles happen once in a while when you believe. Princess Diaries 3 is in the works at Disney and Hathaway is not yet confirmed.
Starting point is 01:05:01 However, she has said in interviews that she is down to clown around as the princess of Genovia. She'll do it. She'll do it. She'll like it and she'll do it, okay? So Disney is returning to Genovia for a third Princess Diaries movie. It's not clear if Anne will reprise her role.
Starting point is 01:05:18 However, she has expressed interest. She said, quote, I would more than entertain it. I'm pulling for it. If there's any way to get Julie Andrews involved, I think we would make it work. Andrews' involvement in Princess Diaries 3 is similarly ambiguous.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Plot details haven't been confirmed, but the threequel is expected to continue the story in the Princess Diaries and the sequel, The Royal Engagement, rather than rebooting the series. So it would be same setting, same characters. Good, good. Not, you know, princess's daughter. Ugh, going to high school in San Fran.
Starting point is 01:05:48 The princess royal, yeah. No, I think this is fabulous. Anne is very much like whatever the opposite of flop era is. Anne is in that era. People are just like obsessed with her. There was a couple of years where she could have done the threequel and like we would not have been into it. Also, like the timing is really good because I feel like Princess Diaries has like made a
Starting point is 01:06:07 resurgence in recent years. People like are even more obsessed with it. It's been like, it's been enough time that it's officially like in the archive, like the Hall of Fame of iconic movies. And I think it's great. I think this is great. I think Anne would do great. And I'm looking forward to it. I think that if Anne and Julie Andrews are in it, there's no way that it's anything short of wonderful and high quality. So I have the utmost confidence. Yes, I think this might just be one of those situations where we hear about the reboot for 10 years
Starting point is 01:06:37 a la Legally Blonde 3. Like the script is being written. It's being cast. Where's the fucking movie? Barbie. At least I saw a picture of Barbie being filmed. Yeah but maybe legally blonde is a close set it's supposed to come out in may we'll see about that yeah um so i think this would be great this would be great we need to get a big calendar in the studio yes of all the projects of like the dates that they said we could expect something
Starting point is 01:07:05 wicked and then we follow up when we inevitably don't get it I love that yeah maybe I'll do it on the flamingo wall like in front of me so I can see like one of those whiteboard calendars love that um I also love dear toasters which is our advice segment that we do here every Wednesday if you ever want to write in the email address is deartoasters at gmail.com. It is always anonymous. It is always, your name is kept out of our mouths. So it is a safe space. Feel free to write in.
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Starting point is 01:08:48 the same gift that like every single person has. And you want to be unique and you want to be different, but there are only so many things you can buy for some one person. And Mejuri is constantly dropping new styles every week. So you can really ensure that no one's going to have what you have. Your piece is unique. It is iconic and 60 day returns just in case. With shiny gifts for everyone, Mejuri is where lists come true. Simplify your holiday shopping and go to Mejuri.com. M-E-J-U-R-I.com. All right, dear toasters, are you ready for our first submission? Yes, but add Mejuri to the toast approved holiday gift list because it's like that gorgeous gold look of jewelry and it's a great price point but it's good quality stuff all right jackson plugged
Starting point is 01:09:32 strap in because this one's a doozy my pjom husband and newly converted toaster found out last week that his dad aka my father-in-law is dating someone he hasn't really dated after his divorce so we're still getting used to the thought of seeing him with a new woman. So fast forward to Saturday morning at 7.50 a.m. I'm on my phone scrolling through Instagram when I get a text notification from my father-in-law to my husband and I. Without thinking, I open the text message and to my horror, it is a very explicit sext, clearly meant for his new girlfriend. I didn't realize it at first because it was a long message that started with, I just woke up from a rather sensuous dream about you with a blank word that rhymes with election. And I kept thinking I was misreading the words. My brain truly couldn't
Starting point is 01:10:16 comprehend. My father-in-law realized right after sending and started texting and calling me. My husband lied and told his dad that he deleted the message from my phone before I woke up. So as far as my father-in-law is aware, I never saw it. He's coming over for dinner next weekend and I don't think I can look at him the same. My husband never had to read the text because I warned him before he saw it. And as mentioned, my father-in-law thinks that I never saw it. So really, I'm the only one who's panicking over this face-to-face interaction. I don't think I'll be able to act normal. Help. Sincerely, a very traumatized toaster. I don't know. I feel like the situation was genuinely handled perfectly. Your husband, whose actual father it was, didn't have to see
Starting point is 01:10:56 the message. And then your husband protected you from the shame of your father-in-law knowing that you saw it. Sounds like a perfect perfect situation you know and not an ideal situation but handled perfectly and you're like looking for things to complain about yeah nobody knows who knows what which is the best case scenario in this instance and honestly the person I feel the worst for is your father-in-law like nobody feels more awkward than the person who sent that and I I'm happy for him that he that his son didn't see it and that he can think and believe that his daughter-in-law didn't see it so maybe he can find some peace in this incredibly traumatizing situation and yeah for you like you're you have to shoulder this one and you have to deal with it
Starting point is 01:11:37 but thankfully it's not your blood and it's okay for you. No, this is ideal. Honestly, when I read it and I was like, oh my God, your husband covered for you. Your husband's a PJ. I'm like, literal perfection. I don't know what you're seeking advice on. How is she going to handle dinner knowing that he had an election? You'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Like, how do you think your son was born? I mean, how do you think your husband was born? Like, old people, they're going to fuck. Your son too. People are going to fuck. Your son, too. People are going to fuck. Your son, too, if you have one. I don't know. But, like, people fuck.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Don't be immature. Like, it's fine. It's fine. No, because I'm sorry. Like, there are people with real problems. This is not a problem. No, it's just, like, a little awkward. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:12:19 Like, keeping it interesting. No, please think about how much worse it could have been. Like, for real. Yeah, you could have seen a picture could have been a big penis in your inbox big penis and a big election in your inbox your your father-in-law could be walking around knowing that you saw it and he doesn't know that so like i think as much as this not ideal situation could be salvaged it was you could and we all just need to move on. You could have borne witness to the election.
Starting point is 01:12:48 You could have borne witness. You could have gotten the election results, and you didn't. Yikes. So always think how this could be worse. That's always a great way to make your problems seem bearable. Yeah. All right, next up. This one is really unique, and I feel like we've never dealt with something like this,
Starting point is 01:13:07 and it's tough, okay? Hi, Jackson Claude. First of all, I love you ladies. Here's my dilemma. I've been with my fiance for six years now. We have a baby together. He had been previously married and is now divorced, but his ex still uses his last name. They were married for five years, but here's the thing. She never even uses his last name. They were married for five years but here's the thing
Starting point is 01:13:25 she never even legally took his name. She is now also engaged to a new man and has a kid with him as well. This bothers me so much especially if I'll be taking his name when we get married. It just makes me feel like I'm number two. Like how is everyone okay with this? My fiance asked her about it years ago but she just said it's an easier name for her students to use. She's an elementary school teacher, by the way. Every time I bring it up to my fiance, he brushes it off. But honestly, it bothers me so much even now. Like she needs to let go of the relationship and his last name. Am I crazy for thinking she needs to stop using his name? Do I get my fiance to approach her about it? How is her new man okay with this? All right, here's the thing. It would bother me a lot too but she's engaged so
Starting point is 01:14:05 just wait her name should be changing imminently right and if it doesn't change when she's married to her new man like I think her new man would be upset but I would also just ask like does she do other things that make it seem like she's not loosening her grip on your man like is this just one thing among many or it's like you guys have really nothing to do with each other she's just this other woman in town who has your last name like I feel like you generally speaking like you can't control what other people are going to do you can only control your reaction to it and if she doesn't change her name when she gets married or if she stays engaged and they're just in a partnership and she never changes her name and she's never can't make her call herself something that she doesn't want to be called.
Starting point is 01:14:50 You have to find a way to make peace with it and not let it bother you so much. Yeah. But let's hold on to hope that her pending nuptials will solve this problem. But if not, yes, you're going to have to do some sort of like inner work to make peace with it. And it's not like your fault and of course this is frustrating and it's it's not like an ideal situation but if you can't change the facts then we've got to change how we feel about them and not let them true and not let them have so much control over our emotions and like have such a proud of profound effect on us and you don't want to be like having to go to your partner all the time,
Starting point is 01:15:27 like who you love with this thing that's bothering you about his ex who he doesn't think twice about. Right. But I can also under, I totally understand the frustration. Like I've never been someone's second wife, but like you really want to prove yourself being like, you know, I'm the one, bitch. Especially if like you live in a smaller town.
Starting point is 01:15:42 And so it's like, oh, here are the softers. And there's that other softener across town. And it's like, but she's not a softener. It's definitely like a weird thing to do if you don't have kids with someone. Yeah. To get divorced and keep the last name. No, I think, yes, it's not what I would do. But until she gets married again, like that is,
Starting point is 01:16:08 and also she never legally changed it, so that's fucking weird. But until she gets married again, it's not like category five. Yeah, let's just pray she fixes this issue when she gets married, whenever that is. Wishing her well, I'll send her a saucer. Gorgeous. All right, our third and final one. I love this one.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Dear Claudia and Jackie, I'm a 36-year-old single toaster. I've had two serious live-in relationships. Both have ended, and I am now living alone. I have a great apartment, a steady job, and I find myself at a crossroads. I'm thinking more and more about having a baby on my own. Having a family is so important to me. I'm not getting any younger, and I think this might be the best option for me. I'm wondering if and more about having a baby on my own. Having a family is so important to me.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I'm not getting any younger, and I think this might be the best option for me. I'm wondering if you can weigh in. Do you have any friends who have done this? Jackie, as a new mom, can you imagine doing this on your own? I know this will change my life forever and won't be easy, especially financially, but I don't want to miss out on having a family. Of course, I will discuss this with my friends, my family, my doctor, but I thought I'd throw it to you, girlies, as this idea is in its initial stages and I'm wondering what pearls of wisdom
Starting point is 01:17:07 you may have. I just absolutely love this idea. I don't think, like sometimes in life, like your timeline is just not going to work out. Like you always think like I want to have a man and then get married and be married for three years and then have kids. And sometimes life just has other plans for you. And the one thing that like unfortunately as a woman like is very time sensitive is your biological clock. And I love that you other plans for you. And the one thing that like, unfortunately, as a woman, like is very time sensitive is your biological clock.
Starting point is 01:17:28 And I love that you're thinking of this. And honestly, I do have friends. Brian just did it. He is 39 and he was like, you know what? Everyone thought, you know, you have to do this. And he's like, you know what? I'm just going to do it. He's, I saw him last night.
Starting point is 01:17:40 He's so happy. And yeah, of course, like I think he he was saying you know he's this while this child doesn't have like a traditional mom I want you know a million aunties like there are things you can do and I think you know what don't let the timeline let you miss out on something that's really important to you so So I'm all for it. Yeah. It's such a big question. Like it's not really like something I'm just going to be like, yeah, like it's a huge commitment to do that.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I'm so for it if that's what you want to do. Like it obviously is a lot of work and even with two people and it's even more so with just one person. So I'm not going to minimize that. But I think that having kids is like the most amazing thing. And if that's what you want, like you should do it and you should have that and have everything that you want. It's, it's a lot. And, but that doesn't mean that it's not worth doing. And unfortunately, like even as times change, like for our bodies don't you know there's things that you can do you could freeze your eggs you could wait longer hopefully meet someone maybe
Starting point is 01:18:49 like then have a surrogate but who's to say that that would it would happen you know so if like you're those you know are such expensive yeah so if you're in a place right now where you like you feel ready and you are prepared to do it on your own. Like, I think that's amazing. And I wish you all the luck and well wishes in the world, but it does, it takes a village. And so I don't know, I don't know like your life, but like, and, or your village, but just be prepared. But ultimately just based on what I like, what she shared and I don't know, like the whole picture, I would say do it. Yeah, but also then keep in mind,
Starting point is 01:19:29 you're now probably for the next three years, I think, safe to say, dating is going to have to be on the back burner for you. Because, of course, you're going to be a single parent, and the first couple of years are hectic. So also keep that in mind. Yeah, also, I've heard of stories of people who like, who go this route and they ha and they make their own family and then they find the right person. And together they're, you know, a whole family and everybody has different paths to
Starting point is 01:19:53 their happily ever after. And so I think that taking matters into your own hands and, and knowing what you're wanting and starting a family is like the most beautiful thing that you could do. So I totally have my support. It's a big one for dear toasters. It's a big one. But then once you have a child and like then you start dating and the guys who like want to be a part of your family, like you're attracting like the most wholesome energy. Like you're attracting like family oriented people.
Starting point is 01:20:20 And I feel like I love that. Yeah. Because even if you met someone tomorrow who you thought could be the real deal you wouldn't have kids for years years and we're we got a clock we gotta go we got clocks so so I think it's so great that you're being aware of that because at least for me like I refuse to think about it you know yeah but clock like I don't know her I do not know the clock but the clock knows you and the clock knows all I don't think she does I think she missed me she don't know me and I hate her and I just I I think that if like having a kid is exactly what you want to do I think you
Starting point is 01:21:00 should just go for it I agree with you know know, a lot. The knowledge and understanding. The knowledge and understanding of what comes with it. But you're also never really prepared. Even when you think. That's true. You know, it's a lot for everyone. So I think that's wonderful. And I wish you all the luck.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And I hope we get an update one day soon. Me too. And you keep us abreast of your journey. We're here for you. I mean, remotely, you've had our support. A hundred percent. And that's huge. And that is also our show.
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