The Toast - Breathe Louder: Tuesday, November 28th, 2023

Episode Date: November 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday for your girl, because I wasn't on yesterday, but I'm back, baby. Back. Back in the Toasty Groove. Yeah, I'm back. Hey, Jax.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Is there a question there? How you doing? Doing good, thank you. Welcome back, La Tour de Loo. Oh my God, thank you so much. Not only am I back on the toes, I feel like I'm back to life. I've just been, I have not left my house in eight days. I have like not showered. I look like a disgusting rat. And so today, like my hair is done, my makeup is on, like I feel,
Starting point is 00:00:36 I don't know, I'm just feeling like myself again. I love that for you. How is due? The question on everyone's mind. Let me say this has been a horrible week like maybe one of the worst of my life top five for sure um depends when you ask Theo is okay he's totally fine he's like he's stable he's stable he's feeling good he's eating he's cuddling with his parents like all signs he's on med so I don't believe he's cuddling with his parents, like all signs he's on med. So I don't believe he's in pain. That's like one of my number one concerns. Cause I don't want to, you know, be doing this like selfishly. Like I want to be doing it for Theo, not for me. So if you haven't been like following my stories, I'll just give like a quick, you know, update. The last time I was on the toast, Theo was in the hospital. He had these two tumors. They are cancerous.
Starting point is 00:01:25 They have spread quite aggressively. Surgery is not an option. We can't remove the tumors because it's, you know, it's everywhere. It's in his bones. Chemotherapy is really not an option. They don't think it'll work. So it's terminal. It's a very bad diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So yesterday we started radiation, which was really our only treatment option for him. It's once a week for the next couple of weeks. He did very well yesterday. It's palliative radiation, so it's not curative. We're never going to cure this. But in the ideal scenario, this radiation would significantly decrease the size of his tumors. And he could go back to, you know, living a somewhat normal life, but with cancer. Ideally, his pain would decrease, his discomfort would decrease, and this would extend his life.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Now, there's no guarantee that this works. We'll probably know by next week for the second appointment if the first one made any sort of headway with decreasing the tumor. If it doesn't work. Cross that bridge. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been really hard. It's like I think when you like, sorry, like, I'm sure like everyone can attest to this, including you, like when you're a pet owner,
Starting point is 00:02:52 like you always think about this, like it pops into your mind like once a week and you're like, that day will never come. And it's like, just like always something you're like constantly afraid of. So now having confronted it with like my first, you know, dog that I own, we had a dog growing up. But like as an adult, it's so much harder than I could have like really ever imagined. I also think like this is a particular like tough situation. I don't know how like most dogs and their life. But ideally, it's like old age with Theo's breed. We've always been prepared for like later in life him having a heart condition it's it's genetic for their breed so we're always like
Starting point is 00:03:29 super on top of what they eat making sure they don't get overweight always keeping heart health in mind yeah and this breed doesn't have like the longest of years and we've always known that but this is much shorter than anything else yeah like with a cavalier if you get to like 12 you're really lucky but most of them start developing like heart issues around like nine or 10. So I was prepared for that. I was not prepared for this. Like out of nowhere, left field, aggressive cancer
Starting point is 00:03:54 spreading really quick at the age of six. Like every, and it doesn't make me feel better, but like every doctor we talked to is like shook. Like it just doesn't, like this should not be happening. It feels really unfair. Yeah, no, it is. It is. And I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And you're doing everything. You're doing so amazing. You're being so amazing for Theo. He has the best care. He has the best parents. I just, like, don't, I'm, like, afraid that I'm being selfish. Because we were told at the emergency room that on Wednesday, once they did, like, the full biopsy and everything,
Starting point is 00:04:22 we were, like, strongly encouraged to put him down. But we didn't. And I think that, you know, we were told that like most people who go to the hospital who were in Theo's situation, like we, we were, we did a CT scan, which showed like really like the, the amount that it had spread. And it was like $1,800 it had spread and it was like eighteen hundred dollars and and she was like you know most people can't even do the the cat scan so like I feel you know torn because I'm so grateful that I was able to do all this and provide everyone on my Christmas list is getting coal like I'm literally giving everything that I've got um and I know so much for Secret Santa yeah I know that if I was in like a different situation, um, my options would be more limited and I'm really grateful that I have these options, but I just don't, I'm so afraid of like doing this just for me, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:15 No, but you've been thinking about that every step of the way, you know, when he's in pain, you know, right now that he's on medication and he's not in pain. He's actually been quite happy at home. He's eating cookies, you know, he's homesick from he's actually been quite happy at home he's eating cookies you know he's homesick from school he's getting the perks I don't think that he's in pain right now and I know that when the time comes that you'll make the right decision for him I just really really hope that um this radiation like makes some sort of dent like just a little like I mean it would be like she had seen like a similar dog
Starting point is 00:05:47 situation who had over a year and she was like I was shook there's no way to know like cancer is just so mysterious everyone's different so there's a chance it's one month and it's there's a chance it's three years like there's just no way to know so I know for a fact that like so many people have messaged me that like they're praying for Theo and like from all different you know denominations and I just I know that works like I know it does it has to so I'm really appreciative and like honestly me and Ben were talking about like how like so when we picked him up from the hospital on Wednesday the timing could not have been worse right going into Thanksgiving weekend so we had been doing all this research on clinical trials and we were calling all these different clinics
Starting point is 00:06:26 and no one was in. So our goal was just to keep him stable and comfortable from Wednesday to Monday. We just had to make it to Monday because we could not get a single individual on the phone via email, anything until Monday. So we did that and I felt like really optimistic on Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was like, oh my God, we did it. And then on Monday I was just like, okay, I did it, but we have no sort of plan or like no hope. And so taking him to radiation yesterday, like felt good. It was like the first time I've been able to be proactive instead of just like keeping him stable. Now I feel like we're actually fighting. Um, so in that sense, I feel good. But like the, just it's so unknown if it's going to do anything. And I'm just, I'm trying really hard to be positive, but it does, I feel like I keep saying this to Ben, like I feel like I'm being punished.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Like, what did I do? It's so unfair. So it's okay. He's going to be okay. Well, the big first step, you made it to Monday. And honestly, there were points last week where who knew that that was's going to be okay. Well, the big first step, you made it to Monday. And honestly, there were points last week where who knew that that was even going to be accomplished. So step one, check. You just keep doing the next right thing and you'll know what's right. You'll
Starting point is 00:07:35 know it in your gut. I feel so also like so grateful for like the community that we've made. Like I seriously, there's so many people who have helped me in the last week that I know personally from the toast, like the hospital that Theo was at, you know, the head of oncology sister is a toaster. And so we were able to connect with her over the holiday when really not a lot of other oncologists were working. Her name is Nicole Lehman. She was amazing. Um, I've had just so many people helping me like from the Cavalier Alliance. Her name is Tanya. She's amazing. She's just been like, you know, helping me with medical stuff, but also just like talking me through like literally being so upset. There's just so many people and I will,
Starting point is 00:08:18 I want to thank everyone, but really what I'm praying for, like everyone just send the most positive love and light to Dr. Carrie Rosen in Yonkers. Like her, Theo's fate is in her hands. She's amazing. So I was like going through my messages because people have just been so helpful. Yeah. And this girl was like,
Starting point is 00:08:36 I have had two dogs with cancer. You have to go see this specialist in Yonkers. I'm like, wait, is it Carrie Rosen? She was like, yeah. She told me her whole story she sent me like all of her medical records like just everyone has been so helpful and so wonderful and I'm so grateful so I have to just really focus on the positive like one that I'm able to provide this level of care for Theo like I'm very very blessed two that there are so many people like in my
Starting point is 00:09:02 personal life like so many people have been texting me sending flowers cookies so many of the brands that we work with that sponsor the show like Theo like touched everyone touches everyone he does so like I have to focus on that like I'm very very blessed in my life for the platform that we have like the the resources that you were resources to like the access information yeah information like feels on a bunch of herbal like so many people were like I know it sounds crazy but like holistic and herbal pet care is like legit and at first I was like okay sure but like everybody kept saying like the same couple of herbs they're like I swear to god turkey tail I swear to god union bio like I'm going to the holistic pet store today like access to that sort of information from people who have experience
Starting point is 00:09:46 is an enormous privilege and I'm very, very grateful. So I really need to focus on like the good that I've been able to do and hopefully will continue to do. But honestly, this has been one of the hardest things like I've really ever, ever dealt with in my life. And honestly, what's so weird is like this obviously isn't my first experience with like grief but it is my first experience with like hopefully not but like potentially like losing someone over time I feel like anytime I've lost someone it's been so sudden like with daddy like we just found out one day he wasn't sick like he just had a heart attack and people always compare like would you rather know would you rather be able to say goodbye or would you rather not and honestly this is so much harder this is so much worse like for real yeah and I just like I knew it would be difficult I thought
Starting point is 00:10:31 you know 500 years down the line it is much much harder than it's one of the most challenging things I've ever dealt with in my adult life like for real that makes sense and you're not wrong for feeling that way it's it's heartbreaking but you're doing like we have to focus on the positive Theo today he's doing well he's eating he's eating he's got his diaper on yeah he's ready to take on the world the first few days and I don't want to compare because I know it's like rude and I'm not a mother I know that but this is I think the closest I'll really ever get to like a newborn phase like we are up throughout the night we are changing diapers we are putting him back to sleep we are giving him medication we are taking him out like a couple times a night and then of course all throughout the day yeah wow, wow, wow. I will say like Ben will be the best dad. Like if I'm like, I'm doing 40%.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He would probably argue that I'm doing less. Like he's doing so much. So I'm trying to like, you know, pick out positive things. Like Ben will be a wonderful father. We'll be great parents. I know it. Like, I'm trying to, you know, I feel like there's a lesson to be learned here. Like, what is the message I'm being sent from God? It's not for you to have to parse out the message while you're going through it. You know? Okay. It would make me feel better to, like, know. You'll get there.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah. You'll get there. I've been thinking a lot about maybe getting another puppy because I've heard that like young spirits can really reinvigorate they say like senior dogs or sick dogs Ben's like not into it he's like why are we replacing Theo I'm like we're not we're helping him then I also think like when the time comes you know in a hundred years where Theo's time is up like I think it would be easier on us yeah so. So I'm just thinking through a lot of things. Well, I love the idea of baby do.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Baby do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, baby do. Theo would love it. All the nibblings would love and welcome with open arms. So it's just been such a crazy week. I'm so excited to be like back doing mindless shit. Like it's been just eight days of heaviness and I want to just talk shit. I want to just think about anything else but this. But I wanted to give everyone an update, obviously.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Great. Well, thank you for the update. Thank you for being here. Of course. Oh my God. I really wanted to be here yesterday. Yesterday was such a busy day. I will say like I'm taking any appointment I can get for the radiology,
Starting point is 00:13:04 but like the next couple of ones. How's 1030'm like no it's great thank you so much we'll just have to work around them that's fine it's you know it's that time of year anyway it's a holiday it's true things come up we've got to do early we've got to do late things happen so when we dropped Theo off at radiology yesterday it was two hours and they were like you can go like you can't even be here so you can either sit in the waiting room or like go do stuff so we explored Yonkers beautiful like absolutely stunning we went mini golfing it was actually so much fun um and we just really felt like when we walked into that place where the like the animal hospital where Dr. Queen Carrie Rosen will hopefully bring my boy back to life um we were like it's such positive energy we really felt like
Starting point is 00:13:47 Carrie was some sort of like witch in a good way like she has some sort of powers like I'm telling you I have a good feeling about it that's good positive vibes only it's so hard it for me especially but like I think for anyone in the situation but given the fact that I'm like the most negative bitch on the planet, it's been really hard. I feel like you are being very positive and mentally healthy about this as much as you can be while also like experiencing the emotions of it. Every time I,
Starting point is 00:14:15 like when me and Ben are in the house alone for a really long time and like we don't talk to anyone, it gets really dark. And we're only one of us is allowed to like cry, be weak at one time. Like if I'm crying, Ben is not allowed to cry. He has to be like the positive one. And when time. If I'm crying, Ben is not allowed to cry.
Starting point is 00:14:25 He has to be the positive one. And when Ben cries, I'm like, Ben, it's fine. We have been ping-ponging. But when we don't see other people, it gets really hard. But we had family coming over all weekend. Ben's parents came. My family came. And every time they come, I do feel better.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah. And Theo always, he can't really move around a lot. But when people walk in the room, like his head perks up. People he knows and loves. Like his camp and school friends. And his tail wags. So like every time people come over, like I do feel so much better. Every time like I FaceTime you, like I feel better.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But it's really hard. You need buoys. I need buoys. I was wondering this morning, does the dog walking crew know what's going on? Yeah, that's been honestly like one of the hardest parts is like telling people in my life who see Theo all the time right who love him so much oh I didn't mean to make you upset no it's okay but like we you and I when you lived here we shared a housekeeper and she loves loves loves Bruno and Theo so much loves they love
Starting point is 00:15:20 her so she had come on Wednesday when Theo was still at the hospital and I hadn't told her and she was like where where's Theo? And I just started crying. And she started crying. And she's been praying for Theo. And then I spoke to a lot of the old doormen in my building yesterday. Because I had some packages. And they called me.
Starting point is 00:15:34 They're like, you want to pick it up? And I wanted to tell them. Because they love Theo. Of course, his dog, Walker Jonathan, who loves him so much, has been texting me. His groomer. So he touches so many people. Yeah. And that's been really hard hard he has his community and his friends that's been one of the hardest parts yeah when you're like a ray of light everyone you shine on feels you know they feel the darkness when you're not there it's so true
Starting point is 00:16:01 shine on Theo shine on well I have my Theo pillow here with me Bruno and I thinking of Theo all day It's so true. Shine on, Theo. Shine on. Well, I have my Theo pillow here with me. Bruno and I thinking of Theo all day, every day. And we'll get through this. We will get through this. I just like I need it to be over, you know, but like in a good way. Yeah. I'll keep everyone updated.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I know. OK, well, I'm going to do my best to boo you today. That's my job. How are you? I mean, after that, I don't know. I'm good, I think. Yeah, no, I'm good. Just busy, busy time of year, as I was saying with Live on the Toast yesterday. We had a very fun time.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Jolly good fun on the show yesterday. And, yeah, just enjoying. This is the greatest time of year I know you're having a hard time but we have to acknowledge the space that we're in between Thanksgiving and Christmas turdy loo I know I feel like it's like passing me by when we were driving up to Yonkers last night I was looking around all the trees were bare yeah and I was like what the fuck happened to fall I missed the whole thing you didn't miss the whole thing I did I'm missing everything it's not too too late. It's not too late. You're still going to see the snow by Christmas. Yeah. Take Theo to see the lights. Yeah. I got
Starting point is 00:17:11 to get him a stroller. I'm one of those people now. My dog has a stroller and a diaper. By the way, get your dog a stroller. I'm about to get one for brew. He just loves to be strolled. Oh, I got to go to the pet store today. Thank you for reminding me. And you need to get your holistic pets. Yeah. No, he needs his union bio union bio apparently ever it's like a Chinese herb everybody is like I'm here for it I'm here for it too what's like what's the downside of that stuff hope I don't Jackie I don't even know who I am anymore I made an appointment with a pet psychic okay and what are you hoping to glean that like she can just tell me what is going on in Theo's mind okay like mom keep fighting mom I'm okay you know yeah yeah okay that would be good information To glean. That like she can just tell me what is going on in Theo's mind. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Like mom, keep fighting. Mom, I'm okay. You know? Yeah, yeah. Okay, that would be good information to have. Yeah, I'm just so desperate. I'm trying things like I probably would have made fun of someone for and that's why I'm a bitch and I'm the worst. No, it's just you never, you have to learn.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You have to walk in someone's shoes. You're learning. So are you going to see a pet psychic? Yeah. When? I don't know. I'm going to see an appointment on Friday. I forgot.. So are you going to see a pet psychic? Yeah. When? I don't know. I'm going to see an appointment on Friday. I forgot.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I was like so busy. Is it like Zoom? Yeah. That's a crock. I know. You have to go in person. No, but she came really highly recommended. Over Zoom?
Starting point is 00:18:15 She came really highly recommended. Claudia. No, I know. Find a person in person. They have to get their hands on paws. No, I know. Paws for paws. Paws for paws their hands on pause. No, I know. Pause for pause. Pause for pause.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. Okay. Back to booing. I know everything's just going to come back to Theo, but how can you not right now? I know. I'm going to try not to. I'm really going to try. Like, I really want to escape.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Like, I need, this show needs to do for me what it does for other people. Great. And that's on me today. Okay. I'm going to take that on. Okay. So let me just steward this ship. Without further ado, let's get into some mindless news that's going to take Claudia's mind off of Tings,
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Starting point is 00:23:29 You're welcome. Our first story, Linda Evangelisa is making news by saying that she's not interested in dating right now. She said, quote, I don't want to hear somebody breathing. So Linda Evangelisa is really one of the most quotable people. She's going viral again. Her first moment was, I won't get out of bed for less than $10,000, right? Right. And now she did an interview with the Sunday Times when she was asked about dating. She said, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I don't want to sleep with anybody anymore. I don't want to hear somebody breathing. And I think that's a really important point she brought up you know about breathing yes and I know that this is something that you can relate to no we literally last night like Theo came up to like lay between us and we were like oh my god so we were just like laying on him and it was such a nice moment Ben was breathing so loud and so I just couldn't help it I'm like breathe louder breathe louder and he had the absolute audacity to blame Theo how did he work that one he said it was Theo oh he said like that wow I'm like trust me I know both of you in my bones and I know that breath anywhere that was your husband is the breather like I actually he's actually really more so the cougher but yes he is
Starting point is 00:24:47 also the breather even in his Instagram stories you hear him breathing in the background oh good oh good so I'm not crazy no like he just breathes my husband and I like we don't breathe you definitely don't breathe I don't breathe Zach really doesn't breathe. I honestly, I can't relate to this. Oh my God. Ben breathes and he breathes and then he breathes again. It is so unacceptable. And I know it sounds crazy, but I'm like, I just need you to stop breathing. I'm not saying I want you to die, but you do need to stop breathing. You need to stop taking breaths.
Starting point is 00:25:20 In a manner in which you are breathing currently. Right. I feel like maybe Linda Evangelista's like past lovers and husbands were Ben breathers because that's like why she must enjoy sleeping alone so much at this point. And she's been scarred. I love making, because when I say something, Ben's just like, you're critical. Like you're crazy. You're, you're oversensitive.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That's why I love making content with Ben because all the things that he does, like I get validated. Even we did a Patreon episode over the weekend and me Ben and Theo like we couldn't leave the room so Ben and Theo just had to listen to the podcast how many times did he cough in the background oh I didn't hear it I was busy pumping so okay like a thousand like I just love that there's documented examples right and now he has his own podcast. Do you think that he is like secretly taking out some of his bodily functions? I know that Josh like edits a lot of the episode for like continuity when they're on Zoom. Like they remove delays and stuff. I have to imagine Josh is removing.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I should ask him like five to ten coughs an episode. I'm going to ask him. And throat clears. Right. No. Those are all the same to ten coughs an episode. I'm going to ask him. And throat clears. Right. No, those are all the same to me. Right. That. I've been clearing my throat a lot because it's like, you know, phase 12 of my sickness.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Right. And it's so weird. I'll do it. There's other people in the room. It feels like I'm about to say something, but I'm not. I'm just like. When you edit good guys episodes, comma comma how many times does Ben clear his throat and did I say that right do you edit it out
Starting point is 00:26:50 okay I think that makes sense I'll wait for him to respond oh he's on LA time so we'll see if he's awake I look forward to hearing back. Yeah. So anyways, Linda Evangelista has a turny like situation. I saw like a funny tweet because this thing went so viral and there were like random headlines. And he was like, this is joining the headline hall of fame. And the others in there were like, we're so classic. Hold on, I need to find it.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It was so funny. Please do. I'm like a grandma trying to headline Hall of Fame. I should have like saved it or something. I know. I always save the things I never need and I don't save the ones that I'm constantly looking for. No, I don't even know who said it.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Was it on Instagram or Twitter? Twitter, which is just so hard to find but if the text was headline hall of fame i don't know if they said hall of fame fuck it's there were some classics in there damn oh josh josh responded ha ha ha who knows okay thanks for nothing literally useless you didn't know he was being put on the spot Who knows? Okay, thanks for nothing. Literally useless. You didn't know he was being put on the spot.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, no. I like him always doing that. And that we were conducting research. No, I'm always doing that on the show. It's like we're trying to prove a point and so sending texts to people. And like either they respond to me and they totally negate my point or I forget. And then after the show ends, I'm like, oh, why did Josh Peck text me? No, totally. You need to send like a disclaimer at the top. This is for research purposes. my point or I forget and then after the show ends I'm like oh why did Josh Peck text me? No totally you need to send like a disclaimer at the top this is for research purposes we are live recording
Starting point is 00:28:29 the toast your answer will be live broadcast and it does have implications. No you know at the beginning of like most podcasts on Dear Media it's like this is a Dear Media production I should just send that little voice memo so people know on air. Yeah yeah. We are yeah and like and you know what give us a little something you know like right do a flip stir the pot stir the pot do a flip yeah anyways um linda evangelista quote queen anybody if anybody finds that tweet just send it she needs to be on brainy quotes do you remember brainy quotes remember mean, I used it like yesterday. Actually, I actually did. Why?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Because I wrote a speech. I spoke at a United Hutzala event, and they wanted me to speak. And I was trying to find a particular quote. And I went on BrainyQuote.com. What was the quote? And did you find it? I was trying to find the quote that you always quote from Game of Thrones, but i wanted to get the exact wording okay um and they had it on there we've been saying it like a little wrong but i liked our version better so i kept it what's the brainy quotes one
Starting point is 00:29:33 it's not the brainy quotes one it's the it's the game of thrones hold on i remember one time in college. By the way, do you know who said it? I had to think of the accent. Someone not like this. It's not like Tyrion. Yeah, no. I was surprised when I was doing my research.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It was Varys, the eunuch. That makes sense. Yeah. That feels right. Who said that? It was. was immutable words uh who no wait who uttered those words margo ashrae on the redheads oh did she start that yeah every time we do a rating for the book and we do the average in every single episode like accidentally it's not even on purpose she goes that feels right that's so cute that's just her like not listening no it's just it feeling right because that's what the average rating is it's a representation of how we all feel about the book
Starting point is 00:30:39 and it feels right like it should feel right yeah I can't find the thing I was looking for but you know what I mean you I stand by I use brainy quote you use brainy quote cool one time honestly brainy quote is is the same as rhymezone.com yeah but just for a different purpose yeah no a different journey a different journey are you ready for our next story yeah that claudia uh sent my way oh good i meant to ask you if you chose this as a story it's turdiloo mark cuban announces his plan to exit shark tank after season 16 it's time he said mark cuban believes his time on shark tank is coming to an end the billionaire businessman revealed that he will not be returning to abc series after season. He said this is our
Starting point is 00:31:25 15th year and next year our 16th year is going to be my last year so I got one more to go he said on all the smoke podcast. He said he feels it's time to leave the series after first appearing as a guest in season two and joining full-time in the third season. I didn't realize he wasn't an original shark. I did because when they play those really really old grady episodes like where there's vaseline on the lens on cnbc there's that guy jeff foxworthy it's so random the guy who hosts are you smarter than a fifth grader wow wait actually i don't think that's the same guy hold on meanwhile mark said that he is grateful for the impact of the series i love it because it sends the message of the american dream is alive and well.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I feel like in doing Shark Tank all these years, we've trained multiple generations of entrepreneurs that if somebody can come from Iowa or Sacramento or wherever and show up on the carpet of Shark Tank and show their business and get a deal, it's going to inspire generations of kids. That's what happens, right? Now we've got people coming on saying, I watched you when I was 10 years old. I'm like, fuck, but we're helping them, right? I'm invested in I don't know how many hundreds of companies yes by the way Jeff Foxworthy like
Starting point is 00:32:29 isn't that weird the same guy are you smarter than a fifth grader that is weird um I was shocked by this news I never thought much about Shark Tank ending or any of them leaving it's just kind of one of those things it's it's like stagnant it's just it's always there and but it's also the way the formula is it could go on forever because it's a revolving door we don't need Mark on every episode but but for him and Mark isn't on every episode there's like six like permanently exit feels like the beginning of something yeah and I was just shocked by this because Shark Tank is almost like a soap opera you know it just goes on and people love it and it's not going to change the world but it's just like it's something that I've come to rely on almost and I was really shocked by this I never thought much I if you had asked me before this who
Starting point is 00:33:13 would be the first to leave like I wouldn't I would have never had that thought on my own. I agree but now in thinking about it he makes sense to be the first to leave i agree because a lot of the other sharks are known sharks you know and being a shark is like such a big part of their brand and like such a big part of who they are and i feel like for mark maybe not that you could really outgrow the tank but like he doesn't want to be in the tank he is famous outside of the tank yeah the most famous outside the tank now the show will and can go on with the other sharks there are enough sharks um but i was really shook by this yeah but it made like it it's not like he wants a future in tv it's not like you don't bite like
Starting point is 00:34:05 leave a good thing it's not like bethany leaving housewives to do his own show he was famous and rich before yeah and maybe in some ways being a shark is a little limiting i mean you know they're on abc so your your contract is with disney like there's probably it's definitely limiting and what other opportunities you can do but also just like oh here comes the shark tank guy like when he's you know in a room of vcs and like all these big investors and it's like maybe shark tank seems like i don't i don't feel this way i don't feel shark tank to me is the biggest name in business okay of course i'm just speaking like what maybe a snob would say yeah that maybe Shark Tank is a little pedestrian by the way people could like fancy business people could see Shark Tank
Starting point is 00:34:52 as pedestrian but I think you know Mark's business and success like speaks for itself right but maybe he wants to take that one pedestrian thing out of his portfolio while he continues on to big glamorous things. Who do you think would be the last person to leave Shark Tank and why would it be Robert Herjavec? I actually think it would be Mr. Wonderful because he is the show. He is he's the heart of the show. Like without Wonderful the show is not the same I think without mark the show will be very much the same I think without wonderful it would be nunderful you know what it would be it would be not wonderful that's actually a really good point I don't think they've considered that definitely not but do you think that like everyone all the other sharks are
Starting point is 00:35:42 shook no or do you think there's like behind the scenes like drama I don't think there's really drama because they're all like so established normal people and they're all like grown adults you know who aren't like and and as their parents the tank isn't like all they have in this world and they're gonna fight tooth and nail to stay in it true they have so much going on I think they're just like hey hey hey so there are six sharks right one of them is always revolving so now I guess all I all of them will be or someone who's been like a a fan favorite guest might now become a full-time shark yeah or someone who's guested a lot yeah like but it's like there's
Starting point is 00:36:24 always it's never all the sharks there together like no right that's what, like that guy. But it's like there's always, it's never all the sharks there together. No, right, that's what I'm saying. So it's five sharks at a time, but there are six sharks. I don't know what the lineup is, honestly, because I feel like Barbara's only in half the episodes. So it's, yeah, Barbara, Damon
Starting point is 00:36:40 are like always interchangeable. I feel like Lori's always there. Robert is sometimes not there, but I feel like Lori and Mr. Wonderful and Lori and Mr. Wonderful are always there. Okay, so there's six. It's Damon, Robert, Mark, Wonderful, Barbara, Lori. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Right? I didn't forget anyone? No, I'm looking at a picture. That's them. So yeah, now I guess either it'll be all five all the time or it might be exciting to add someone new. Yeah, or to give someone a promotion that's been a guest like right who's like currently like a famous businessman like elon musk but he's like too rich and famous for that but like who's someone like that uh i feel like there's always like random businessmen running for
Starting point is 00:37:19 president like one of those people vivek i'm sure that's what that's right by the way if it doesn't work out he can join the tank i was thinking but is he a businessman yeah right like someone like that or like that everybody loves that guy chris um he wears the bolo tie gopro yeah the gopro guy he could get the the promotion also the kind bar guy. I was just gonna say that. He could get full-time. But I do think. Or like Sarah Blakely if she wants it. That's what I was gonna say having a woman who's also like famous like Sarah Blakely is really famous like I knew who she was before she came on the tank the other two I didn't know them. And she owns a basketball team so like it would kind of be like similar to Mark yeah I don't need it to be a famous person I need it to be someone who's like gonna make good deals and that has the money make
Starting point is 00:38:10 deals and has the power to make businesses successful like I want it to be a shark yeah someone who's actually powerful yeah I don't need to know their name I want maybe a new name yeah what if we threw a new name into the mix maybe like a single businessman who goes on to be a businessman bow for someone love love love so that's what's going on in the tank I feel the tank has been shaken up yeah shake it up shark tank I have to tell Zach I wonder if he knows he never misses an episode and he loves Mark but also like the news wasn't big I saw it in like a random tweet and I was like is this real and then I had to like search so it hasn't been because there wasn't an official statement or anything he just said it on a podcast on a podcast that that's what he was feeling I don't think he realized it was like gonna be as big of a official that it is but it's still on this season and he's
Starting point is 00:38:56 gonna do next season so it's we have time we have time our next story Kylie Jenner says her and Jordan never fully cut each other off after the Tristan scandal. So Kylie Jenner did an interview with Jennifer Lawrence for Interview Magazine. And she talks about how her relationship with Jordan has transpired over the years. She said, Jordan and I, we always stayed in touch throughout the years. And we would meet up at my house and catch up and just talk through everything. We never fully cut each other off. And one day, naturally, we were like,
Starting point is 00:39:25 we want to get sushi and we don't want to hide anymore. The sushi outing occurred in July, 2023, when they stepped out for a fun girls night. The outing sent the- Sushi park. The outing sent the internet into a frenzy, but it appeared the pair had been on good terms for some time.
Starting point is 00:39:38 However, that doesn't mean the scandal didn't impact their friendship at all. Kylie noted that she and Jordan, who were once inseparable, decided they needed a slight break from each other following the incident. She said, there's a learning lesson in everything. And I think that in a weird way,
Starting point is 00:39:50 everything happens how it's supposed to happen. We were so attached to the hip that we needed space to grow into the people that we were supposed to be. I needed that independence and that confidence because she was like my security blanket for so long. Yeah, like their relationship was like unhealthy for like grown girls, like having sleepovers every night.
Starting point is 00:40:07 They live together. Right. So I agree with Kylie. I do want to say like when celebrities get interviewed by like other celebrities, to me it's like such an eye roll. Like just give the journalist her job back, you know? But I happen to love, I read this Jennifer Lawrence one. Like it was, Jennifer Lawrence was so excited,
Starting point is 00:40:25 asking such funny questions, like snide commentary. Yeah. Obsessed. Obsessed. I was hoping there was going to be a but at the end of your statement because yeah, typically, you know, like. No, it's Kim Kardashian by Jennifer Lopez. Like why?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Right, no, or it's like Scorsese on Swift. Yeah, yeah, like why? Go make a movie. That something i i happen to just dislike it just kind of gives like pretentious eye roll vibes like i don't like it because it's not typically done in a way that's really fun or necessary organic and this was those things this is just like a conversation and jennifer lawrence did a great job what can't she do yeah uh and like jennifer lawrence clearly just watches the show and like is a fan girl but is also friends with them and she can't get over that she's friends with them it was so
Starting point is 00:41:09 relatable and she's so funny and I thought she did an excellent job so this is my exception to my rule I agree does Jennifer Lawrence have a movie coming out because she's been out and about a lot that's true she is but not that I know of I mean she's not in Hunger Games right it's crazy she didn't go to the premiere I don't know it's like a new generation like let them know but like she is Hunger Games she is Hunger Games that's true actually like at this very moment I am Hunger Games I'm starving what are you gonna have for lunch I don't know it's so hard I've just also like another reason I'm excited to be like out of my house. Like I have been just like a slob. Like I have reverted to my old self these last eight days.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Like I have not worked out. I worked out once. I have just been eating crap. Like I literally ate a meatball sub. Like I'm just living my life. It was so good. But I'm like excited. Like I need to like put,
Starting point is 00:42:00 if I want to feel good, I have to like put good things in my body. Like I need to like, like I walk to work. Like I, it's better. Reset. So I need to, I need to have to put good things in my body. Like I need to like, like I walk to work. It's better. Reset. So I need to have like a good healthy lunch.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Okay. What does that entail? Like a wrap. Is that healthy? I don't even know. Wheat wrap? Yeah, by the way, they only offer wheat wraps now. Can we talk about that?
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like anytime I get a wrap, they always say you want whole wheat or spinach. I'm like, what about white? You're just talking about 40 carats, which is the only place. No, no, I'm not. I'm not. I also get wraps from Chopped and Lenwich. Actually, Lenwich has white.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Maybe I'll get Lenwich today. Yeah, invite Dana. That's her favorite restaurant in the city. Is it? Yes. It would be. She loves their tuna. You know how we're always talking about on the toast,
Starting point is 00:42:42 how there's a warm bowl place right by our studio that I'm, oh wait, not me literally dreaming last night about the warm bowl place. You know, I've been out of work for too long because I haven't had it. Do you think that was like your entrepreneurial side kind of dreaming about opening up Turdy's warm bowls? Turdy's bolero?
Starting point is 00:42:58 What did we say we were going to call it? Turdy's warm bowl. Yeah, but then we, then we. Bowls change to something. Yeah. Whatever. Maybe, but then we... Bowls change to something. Yeah. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Maybe. Maybe it's, you know, I heard that Mark was leaving and I saw an opportunity to be a shark. Or you have to get on the tank before he leaves. That's a dream job.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But I would have to be doing it with someone else's money. Even if I imagine like I had all that money, I don't think I'd commit to a job where I have to pay people. You know? No, wait. Like I had all that money. I don't think I commit to a job where I have to pay people, you know? No, but like you technically would make money.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I would love to see a statistic of every shark, how much they've put out and what they've gotten back. I'm sure it's all net positive because for all of them, at least one has hit really big. Yeah. To negate all the other investments. Yeah. Like Lori will be in the green in eternity because of Scrub investments. Yeah. Like Lori will be in the green in eternity
Starting point is 00:43:45 because of Scrub Daddy. Yeah. Now I know Mr. Wonderful likes to claim that he's got the biggest deal because the guys who came on for Plated didn't get a deal but then he ran into them
Starting point is 00:43:56 at a conference later invested and they sold to Albertsons for I think $3 billion. No, it wasn't $3 billion. I don't count it. It wasn't in the billions. It was in the Bs. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Plated-Albertsons deal. I don't think it was in the Bs bill it was in the bees yes it was played at Albertsons yeah I don't think it was in the bees maybe I thought it was in the hundred millions 175 million dollars in cash oh is that what Mr. Wonderful got or that's the whole deal that's the whole deal okay oh someone else said 300 million okay but still not billions yeah I think he likes to consider himself like one of the biggest deals because of that. But I'm just, I love Mr. Wonderful with my whole heart. It doesn't count. That's like saying Ring is the biggest product to come off of Shark Tank. Well, that's different because they didn't end up getting a deal from any shark.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Right. So it's like not a Shark Tank product. But Play Did did, but the deal wasn't done on air. It doesn't count. So neither does Ring. No, I would never consider Ring. Can ring no it's crazy that none of them gave him a deal yeah maybe i was getting confused because that one sold to amazon for a billion dollars amazon owns ring yes but amazon has their own cameras amazon has their own everything. Who owns Ring? Amazon.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Amazon. Wow. Like, that's a dream. If we could sell to any company, it would obviously be Amazon. Well, yeah. Right? Or, like, LVMH. I think LVMH needs a podcast in their portfolio.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'd have to think about it. Because you have to think about, like like the other companies in their portfolio. Who you're going to be like having off-sites with. Right. No, LVMH is like so fancy. I don't think LVMH. Speaking of fancy, I wanted to tell you something. I fell down a TikTok rabbit hole, which was just perfect timing. I thought you fell down.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Me and Ben. I'm sure I did. And it was like perfect timing because me and Ben have been watching we watch Gossip Girl all weekend we're like halfway through season three um and there was like a whole a couple episodes about Cotillion and like Dead Ball and then I ended up on this TikTok rabbit hole apparently this weekend was I want to get the exact wording because you will love it Le Ball de Debutants in I think Paris like the actual like debutantes of the world all had their like coming out debutante gala um and there were so many tiktoks made about it so it's like princesses heiresses from all over the world like
Starting point is 00:46:18 there was one girl from america she was so cute she's a descendant of henry ford gerald ford what's his name ford ford motors henry henry uh was he also president gerald ford was the vice president oh president no motor motor queen motor henry ford she was so cute anti-semite uh henry ford oh my god hate to see it like a big fat one a big fat anti-semitic was he fat no oh just the anti-semitism was yes yes i don't think if he was fat i would have called him fat because like he could be he can be anti-semitic but i can't be fat phobic no right right it's so true um and so they all wore like haute couture like atelier custom and they were all just like beautiful and the gowns and and they're all just like models it was honestly I'll send you a tiktok of like all the looks and somebody did like here's who each of them are like here are their parents
Starting point is 00:47:18 send me send me the assets royal oh my god what a fabulous place to have been that's so fabulous please send me the assets I hope some love matches were made though like what is the point it's like them these are like aristocratic girly so like there is actual society there so these type of events are archaic for us but for them like they still exist in those types of like you're coming out you're eligible yeah I guess they still do that in America too like a dead ball where you're coming out you're eligible yeah i guess they still do that in america too like a dead ball where you're coming out like yeah but that one's like a little like pointless no that's what i'm saying but but this one's not like now we know about all these girls like they're they're being brought to the world for you know dating for for we didn't know with publicity right okay that's that's really cool Please send it to me. Also, speaking of Atelier gorgeous royal fashion,
Starting point is 00:48:08 did you see Blackpink at Buckingham Palace? I didn't. But I heard about it on the show. You have to see their looks, Claude. Google it. Did you see some news that came out? Was that Taylor Swift had, of course, I think we had assumed that she had been offered coronation
Starting point is 00:48:21 and she said no for King Charles. Why'd she say no she's busy and or disinterested but you know she could get up there and sing you know i love a london boy i enjoy nights in brixton shortage in the afternoon he likes my american smile like a child when our eyes meet darling i fancy you took me back to hyatt met all of his best mates so i guess all the rumors are true you know i love a london boy boy i fancy you she also could sing king of my heart oh my god she could sing king of my heart i have an eye twitch sorry like i just need to hold my eye open there's so many songs she could sing King of My Heart. I have an eye twitch, sorry. Like I just need to hold my eye open.
Starting point is 00:49:05 There's so many songs she could sing. I wish she performed. And was she still dating Joe then? Yeah. By the way, this dumb question. Did he already have his coronation? No, it wasn't a coronation. You were thinking of Jubilee.
Starting point is 00:49:17 No, but there was something that people didn't perform at. Or did it already happen and we missed it? Maybe I just. Was it the coronation? No. Was it not memorable? No, there was like, like yeah he had jubilee was one thing which was amazing but there was another thing his coronation yeah it was in may yeah and like that's so crazy like i don't even remember it irrelevant no but we had so many conversations
Starting point is 00:49:51 about like where's harry styles where's ed sheeran where's adele yeah but i felt like we had those conversations also about the jubilee oh yeah but the jubilee was amazing amazing it's how i felt about it and also something else about tailored that i forgot what i was gonna say but i've really been enjoying the 1989 vault tracks me too do you would you say they're the best vault tracks it's really hard to beat red we Well, take out all two outside man version. Okay, we still got Better Man. We still got Babe, which were songs we already knew. We still got Message in a Bottle. It's really hard. But also, I've had way more time to ruminate with Red.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Ask me in a year. Okay, I think the 1989 ones are my favorite, but I also didn't listen to Speak Now ones. Not even all of Fearless. Definitely all of Red, though. Yeah, the Fearless and the Speak Now ones, in my opinion, don't compete. They're really good ones for me. It's like when Emma falls in love is so good.
Starting point is 00:50:54 But as a whole, they don't compete with Red or 1989. OK, cool. You didn't send me that TikTok I was looking for. I know. I forgot. Sorry, I've been a little busy. It's OK. I'm sure you'll find the time.
Starting point is 00:51:07 By the way, the breakout star from that debutant ball I just found on my TikTok, her name is Lara Cosima. Where is she from? Now let me tell you exactly who she is.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But she's like viral now. Lara Cosima Henkel von Donnersmark. Does she have a TikTok of her own? She does. That's how I found her whole name. She has 83,000 followers. Oh, no, that's on Instagram. But I just want to know, like, who she is.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, and she has almost 300K on TikTok. Oh, here, yeah. Hello Magazine. Best dressed at the debutante ball 23. Lara Cosima was on there, but they'll tell me who she is. Hold on. Oh, yeah, Princess Lissy Selassie. So many good people.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah, Lara Conner looked good. Is she American? No. She wore Carolina Herrera. I think she is American. Send me the link. Drop a link. Oh, my God, wait, I'm just reading about all the girls. This girl, Lara Conner, she is American. Send me the link. Drop a link. Oh my God, wait.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I'm just reading about all the girls. This girl, Lara Connor, she's stunning. So Lara danced into the La Balle de Debutante in a colorful tulle gown by Carolina Herrera. The 19-year-old fashionista is currently pursuing a degree in government at Georgetown University and her mother is a contributor at Vogue. Lara's best friend, Patrick Bennett, is her cavalier.
Starting point is 00:52:25 King Charles? Okay, so Countess Lara Cosima. She's a countess, this girl who's like kind of the breakout star. She wore Jean-Paul Gaultier. Her gown embodied the signature silhouette of Gaultier's haute couture. Countess Lara Cosima is the daughter
Starting point is 00:52:41 of Oscar-winning film director Florian Henkel von Donnersmark, best known for writing and directing The Lives of Others, which gained an Academy Award in 2007. The 20-year-old, oh, she's German. German star has built her own TikTok empire, gaining 40 million views. Okay. She has 300,000 followers. Let's just calm down.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Over two months. Oh, I'm sorry. Over two months. Oh, she got popular on TikTok because she was doing like Day in My Life while she was interning for like big fashion brands. Cool.'s a countess where does the countess miss come from from the oscar winner i don't know also the archduchess of austria and the royal princess of hungary that's both the same girl that's her title her name is il dico hapsburg hapsburg luthering again she's an imperial and royal princess embodied regal beauty in a petrol blue
Starting point is 00:53:26 alex mobile gown she stepped into the spotlight wearing the orleans tiara oh wait they keep saying cavalier oh i feel like oh i feel like cavaliers we're thinking dog i think cavaliers who escorted them because Because the other one said Patrick Bennett. I was like, wait, her dog is a first and last name? So her Cavalier is HRH Prince Constantine de Orleans. So Cavalier is obviously like your date. Or your dog. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Can you tell me this link, please? Yeah, it's so interesting now. Yes. Wait, I'm texting it to you. I also feel like looking at the descendants of royals, not that we have that many, it's a good way to know what like the old royals used to look like because we don't have photos.
Starting point is 00:54:11 But I'm sure some of them look like their grandparents or great-grandparents. And then that's like a way to know what Cece looked like. So Jasmine Yen of China, she wore an haute couture gown. She's a musician. She studied at the Berklee College of China. She wore an haute couture gown. She's a musician. She studied at the Berklee College of Music. It's just so interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Oh, and there was a Jew. She was my favorite. Talitha Stern. What color is her dress? Black. British debutante Talitha Stern hails from banking royalty. Her ancestors can trace their roots
Starting point is 00:54:46 back to 17th century merchant bankers in Frankfurt and have been founders and shareholders in leading banks. God, this just reads like like an anti-Semitism propaganda. She's 17 years old. She wore Christian Dior.
Starting point is 00:55:01 She's an avid ski racer. Her proudest achievement to date is being named the Anglo-Scottish winner of both the Giant Slalom events in 2023. And she made it to the top 20 in the French National Skiing Championships. Wow. She's so cute.
Starting point is 00:55:13 She looks like a girl I went to camp with. Who's a billionaire? Isn't this interesting? It is. Oh, I guess there was more than one american the american i saw was ellie magaw okay who's she she um i believe is the ford she hailed her proudest achievements as winning the under 25 racing cars grand prix in canada her cavalier is from scot. He's a Marquess of Lorne who wore his family kilt to the ball. Okay, so a cavalier is a human.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry. That wasn't Ford. There's actually quite a few Americans. Olivia Ford Uzielli. She wore Oscar de la Renta. Her status is defined by her beloved grandmother, Anne Ford, a direct descendant of American inventor and industrialist Henry Ford,
Starting point is 00:56:06 whose achievements are seen by many as the epitome of the American dream. She was raised in Beverly Hills with her sister and her best friend, Eleanor, who took part in the ball last year. And she now lives in New York City where she is a student at NYU. Wow. No, this is just, I won't read all of them, but you should go down the rabbit hole. It's extremely interesting.
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Starting point is 00:59:39 tailored swift she has flown back to k City to visit Travis after finishing her Brazil Arras tour shows. So after a rough round of Arras tour shows in Brazil, the singer landed in Missouri on Monday to visit her boyfriend, Travis Kelsey. She touched down at the private airport after taking off from Florida two hours earlier. And Florida. Yeah, she must have flown from Brazil to Florida. Maybe she needs to refuel? Perhaps. Well, you know what? She doesn't have shows for a while. And like, I think she needs to relax.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Like she needs to just lay with her boyfriend, be in love, go out to romantic dinners in a small town. It's literally a novel. It writes itself. While she recharges for the next couple of shows. Like I feel like it's been all about Taylor, you know? So now let it be about Travis. This is important. We're almost coming to the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Like she can be supportive girlfriend. I feel like the timing's actually working out nicely. And I don it be about Travis. This is important. We're almost coming to the playoffs. She can be a supportive girlfriend. I feel like the timing is actually working out nicely. And I don't think she has shows until the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's what I think too. Certainly not until next year. So she's able to spend the holidays how she pleases. Oh, where are they going to spend the holidays? By the way, Christmas Day football is like a thing, right?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Or is it basketball? Football. Okay, so. Should we check his schedule? Yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm so hungry wow just felt like sharing okay do you think other people talk about like how hungry they are on their podcast yes certainly on smart list all they talked about was food oh and i'm a good guy okay okay here
Starting point is 01:01:06 December 18th Chiefs Patriots at Patriots I feel like it doesn't say but I feel like whoever goes second I feel like is a home game
Starting point is 01:01:15 oh really I think it was whoever goes first no because you say it like how does it go Chiefs then Patriots so you would say
Starting point is 01:01:22 Chiefs at Patriots okay hold on when they played the Eagles where did they play How does it go? Chiefs, then Patriots. So you would say Chiefs at Patriots. Okay. Hold on. When they played the Eagles, where did they play? Philly. And Philly was first in the... It says Eagles-Chiefs. So first place is where they play.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Look at us, Detective Reasoning. I don't know if I believe that, honestly. That doesn't make any sense. It's the opposite. It's the opposite? So it's what who's home kansas at so you were right yeah i was right so then the eagles played the chiefs in kansas then city okay city missouri okay maybe i was wrong about that i don't know
Starting point is 01:02:02 so chiefs at patriots oh my god God, New England, December 18th. Like that's... Oh, they can go to Rhode Island. They can go to Rhode Island. Oh, that's the perfect place to spend the holidays. Yep. Then December 25th, they have a Christmas game, but it's at Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Oh, okay. So like the week before, his and hers. His and hers. Wait, that's what's so nice about having like such a robust real estate portfolio while dating an NFL player. Like, oh, are we playing the Tennessee Titans? Off to my mansion.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Oh, the Rams or the Chargers or maybe even the 49ers? Off to my palace in Los Angeles. All the New York teams, Bills, Jets, Giants. I don't know about Bills. It's a little far. She has a plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bills, Giants, Jets.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I would even put like New england boston philly yeah new york area philly for sure but then so uh christmas game at kansas city so they could be in kansas city for christmas and then new year's eve game at kansas city also new year's december 31st who the fuck watches football on New Year's Eve? If it's it's going to be us. It's going to be us. Oh, my God. Yeah. We'll all be together watching football.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. We haven't watched football together in so long. The boys are going to be so annoyed with us. OK, but you know what? Ben was trying to explain something to me last night because we were watching this honestly terrible game. Vikings versus Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:30 terrible game Vikings versus Cincinnati Bengals yeah um and so one of the teams was like down by three or whatever but the the losing team had three timeouts I but so they like use the timeouts Ben was trying to explain it to me I don't understand timeouts like are they not just a chance to like get water and sit down no they like strategic. You use them to like run the clock. I so don't understand it. Ben was trying to explain it to me. He made it so confusing. Like he, Jackie, he might as well have been speaking Chinese.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Like I seriously did not understand one word he was talking about. So I was like, I think I should ask Shapiro. Like maybe Shapiro could explain it better. So I'll ask him when we're all together. Okay, cool. Or if somebody wants to explain it in the comments, like I could not understand it for the life of me.
Starting point is 01:04:03 One thing at a time, turdy. One thing at a time. Waitdy. One thing at a time. Wait, so that's like such a fun end of year for Taylor. Hopefully those are her plans. Holiday house. Yeah. Kansas City. Maybe Travis has been picked out a home.
Starting point is 01:04:16 His new house already, maybe. For sure, for sure. Rich people move quickly. Yeah, but they also like do work to the house. Yeah, but Travis is not that kind of guy. Like, oh, somebody built a nice mansion with a pool and a waterfall. I'm moving in. Totally.
Starting point is 01:04:29 He's the type who like literally brings a pillow and a toothbrush. Yeah, let me pack my things. And like his Louis Vuitton duffel. Yeah, and like Taylor's so in love, like she wouldn't care. Yeah, but she's also like, you know, she's not gonna add too much commentary at this point in the relationship. She doesn't want to see my maintenance. She's just gonna go with the flow oh trav i love your house you know what a cute stripper yeah no like no headboard not a problem sheets cool i love black very reputation era of you
Starting point is 01:04:59 travis are you ready for our fifth and final story some publishing drama you probably haven't heard of it i thought it was so funny sports illustrated is accused of publishing ai generated copy and using headshots created by ai and publishing fake writer profiles so sports illustrated has been accused of publishing ai generated writing while using headshots of fake authors and creating bogus profiles the legacy magazine was called out for the content, which was allegedly written by non-existent authors. Sports Illustrated said that the work came from a third party who assured their articles were written by humans.
Starting point is 01:05:33 An investigation conducted found that multiple authors with biography pages on Sports Illustrated website were fake, including made-up interests, hobbies, and even an AI-created headshot. As well as the authors, some of the writing on the website's review page was accused of sounding like it was written by an alien, with bizarre descriptions and formatting discrepancies. So some of the things that were found, Drew Ortiz, an alleged writer, had on his profile that he has spent much of his life outdoors
Starting point is 01:06:02 and is excited to guide you through his never-ending list of the best products to keep you from falling to the perils of nature it's so funny oh when you get stuff that's like and you realize it's ai generated it makes no sense what were we reading recently when when we were designing our merch website is that what you're thinking about there were just like some blurbs that were placeholders that were like clearly written by AI. They made no sense. No sense. In like the footer where you would normally put like your return policy,
Starting point is 01:06:33 they just like put some words from it. It was so funny. I think I, I might, I must have screenshots. They wrote something about war. Hey, hold on. Wait. Yeah. Sign up to get updates on new releases and things toast like that's not and things toast no by the way i just want to say like i know ai is the devil yada yada um
Starting point is 01:06:57 oh doing collections doing fashion is like a nonstop dialogue. War taught me. War taught me that not everything is glamorous. Luxury will always be around, no matter what happens in the world. I don't care about money. I really don't care. I just want to do what I do. Facts. I love to design things that people can actually buy.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm staggered. What a boot. I'm staggered by what a boot costs today. What? I'm obsessed. And we thought AI couldn't write comedy. Wait, I just want to say, I know AI is like the devil, whatever. A company like Sports Illustrated spending any money on writing is just a waste.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Like no one's going to Sports Illustrated for the thought provoking articles. Like they're going to look at pictures of beautiful women and, you know, sports stuff. Like I think it's fine. Sports Illust illustrated swimsuit issue only happens once a year though like the rest of it is about so what's like articles about sports yeah I don't feel like that's like no no it's like shockingly true I think I think like go to sports illustrated.com like what's what's the big bikini models or is it sportsillustrated.com? NFL power rankings. Eagles 49ers headed for top two showdown.
Starting point is 01:08:29 What? I'm shocked. Yeah, it's all. It looks like ESPN.com. Okay, I take back what I said. Oh my God, I'm literally shocked. How irrelevant are they? Like in that regard.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They had people writing like articles. I guess if it's like a recap of a game, like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they got caught. So it obviously wasn't very good. It was kind of like our merch blurbs. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 It was staggering how much a boot costs today. Yeah. By the way, it is staggering how much a boot costs today. It's staggering how much everything costs. 100%. Anyways, so that's a little embarrassado for Sports Illustrated. That is embarrassing,
Starting point is 01:09:10 but I think this might be something we see a lot. But like other publications will learn from this. Like they will proofread it and have like a copywriter make it look normal. But AI is also getting smarter. Like give them time. Also, did you see the most recent AI drama?
Starting point is 01:09:23 We talked about this on the Patreon of Thanksgiving Day Top topics about chat gpt sam altman but then did you see this like letter that came out about sam oh no what is he not the good guy I don't know it was like an anonymous what he said no one tied their name to the letter because they're all like so scared of him they say but they said like there's but but but hundreds of other employees wrote a letter begging the board to put him back on they love him you just should read the other letter i'm just saying for sure but like i'm i'm more inclined to trust a letter that's positive that's signed by so many people nobody forced him to sign this letter then one anonymous troll no it wasn't what did it say it wasn't one it was just another side to i just said we said on the page i'm like
Starting point is 01:10:04 there has to be more to this story like what did sam so what did they say about him toxic work environment so scary you know threatening employees blah blah blah all that okay toxic workplace has just become like one of those words that lost its meaning because there are workplaces that are incredibly toxic to be at but i feel like somebody speaking out somebody got reprimanded somebody got reprimanded once on Slack and they were like, this is a toxic workplace. Like,
Starting point is 01:10:27 grow up a little bit. So I need to know if it's a workplace that is toxic or a toxic workplace. I don't know, fear of speaking out, retribution, yada yada.
Starting point is 01:10:39 All right, I'll have to read both letters. Everyone has a letter to write. And everyone has a letter to read. But don't touch the Morgan Ladders. that's the first rule of ladders then the first rule of letters is don't touch the Morgan and if you can live by that you'll be okay you'll be safe you'll be okay you'll make it through well we made it through a great episode so good to be back with you we're back tomorrow
Starting point is 01:11:04 and the day after that and the day after that. Only a couple more weeks before our end of season. So soak it up. Our last episode for the year of season six. Is it six? I don't know. I think it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Let me check. Right? Maybe. That's crazy. That's Let me check. Right? Maybe. That's crazy. That's like so crazy. We'd be going to our seventh season. And we don't like make up seasons. Like people do like two months of podcasts.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Like that's season one. No, season is a whole year. It's like a 10 episode season they do. It's like so crazy because I remember when we started this season, because every time I wrote the episode, I had to like change from season five to six. And I was like, damn, it's going to be taking me so long
Starting point is 01:11:45 to remember to do this. Were you able to find it? I don't know. We're doing a lot of like looking on our phones today. We're finally doing what people want us to do. Whatever. So our last episode of the year is December 16th. It's slowly approaching
Starting point is 01:12:05 so just prepare yourself because we ain't back till the new year so they'll be patreon of course oh yeah and this is a business we'll all be together yeah lots of content yeah lots of tiktok everyone's getting in my tiktoks i don't care i don't care i have to drag them by their i'll work on my moves the re renegade. Oh, yeah. It's giving 2019. It's giving TikTok. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast and Millennium Morning Show
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