The Toast - Brianna, Grace and Terri Schuester: Thursday, December 12th, 2024

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Like normally Thursdays have such a great energy, je ne sais quoi, but it is our second to last regular episode of the year. And like there is sadness abound. There is sadness abound. It's very bittersweet to be saying goodbye,

but for you guys, it's actually great because I really feel called to give you an amazing episode, you guys, it's actually great. Cause I really feel called to give you an amazing episode. You know? So true. So with the stories and just with everything that I'm bringing to the show today, I'm putting my best foot forward.

Not that I ever don't, I just want to say. I don't know. Some days I don't like if I'm being completely honest, it's hard to be like your best personality every single day. No, it's true. But I don't know. I feel like some days I'm so tired. I just have a lot going on,

but I feel like whenever I'm sat in this chair, like I am putting my best foot forward. You will not know that we're going through a sleep regression unless I decide to share that. Nothing else exists besides these four walls. These four walls. It's so true. I actually didn't even talk to you about this like privately

cause I've been so busy. Yesterday, I spent the afternoon with Jay Shetty. I recorded his podcast. And you know, I don't know if you are familiar with his podcast, but it's literally like therapy. Yes, like inner child work. Yes, exactly. And like in my current state,

like I'm just really susceptible to like crying. You're emotional, yeah. Oh my God, I'm actually embarrassed at how much I cried. Like he actually asked me a question. I was like, I can't answer that without like seriously falling apart. He was like, okay, don't worry, we'll cut it out.

I'm like, thank you so much. It wasn't even a particularly titillating question. It was just- Can you tell us the question? We were talking about grief and he was asking like losing a dog, losing a parent, like just that journey, like the differences. And he was like, what's your favorite memory with your dad?

And I was like, I can't tell you that. Like, sorry, I can't, I literally can't. If you want me to keep sitting in this chair, and my coccidinia was acting, it was not a coccidinia friendly chair. My ass was hurting me the whole time. That is so crazy. It's like years worth of therapy and what,

like never goes to therapy, does it live on a podcast? So I said that, I don't wanna spoil. It was two hours long and I was just like, by the way, like I don't go to therapy, not that I'm against it at all. I'm just not a person who has trouble communicating. I actually have a lot of people in my life that I open up to about all different parts of myself and I'm very blessed and I don't feel stifled.

And he was like, that's so great. I'm like, but I never talk about this shit that you're talking about. I don't know where you're coming up with these questions. Where do you get your confidence from? And not me literally starting crying. I literally was crying the entire time. I'm so embarrassed.

And it was- You're like Ari and Cynthia. Did you do it with Ben or alone alone? But Ben had driven me he was in the car downstairs taking a call It's what was feeling like particularly grateful to Ben for like, you know He literally like moves his whole day around to drive me to Brooklyn And then Jay was asked me questions about Ben and like pretty much every time I was asked about Ben I was hysteric like hysteric like so embarrassing. I am

Hysterically crying is that a normal thing that he says happens on his show? Well that's like his thing you know everybody cries. He's an excavator. Before we started I was like I'm not gonna cry he's like okay. Hey tears see you later. Literally. I don't know if like I would have cried not pregnant but he was also just asking questions about like parenthood like Ben as a dad like seriously it was it was so messy. Like I don't even know. I was gonna ask you when it's coming out,

but is it weird that I would feel weird like listening to that? Jackie, I'm begging you. It's not for your family. Jackie, if you listen to it, I will die. Like seriously, do not listen to it. But the whole world should, but like not those closest to you. I understand that like, it's just, I can't explain it.

I feel like I'm always trying to put this into words. I feel like even, I can't put it into words. Like for literally a decade, I've been like trying to articulate how sometimes it's easier to share emotional things with people you don't know. 1000%. Then with like people who know you and are there for you might actually be going through the exact same thing.

There's like a weirdness in the intimacy. It's just like, it's weird. That is so funny. I will not be listening. No, please don't. Like seriously, I will die. If you have a question, I'll answer it, but like don't watch.

But everybody else should. I don't think it comes out for like months though. So don't get too excited. It'll be a while. Definitely not this year. That's so funny. Well, my episode of The Good Guys dropped today. So you can listen to that.

Oh, that's on my watch list because I hear you guys literally exclusively talked about me. So I have to listen. I actually think whoever told you that is setting you up for disappointment because we did talk about you a lot, but if you're listening,

they can be talking about you the whole time. You're gonna be like, they didn't talk about me at all. Oh. Just so you know. Oh, okay. Oh. Literally, if that's why you're listening, like don't. That is why I would be listening. Because we talked about you like a good amount,

but it's not the whole episode, so you would just see the glass half full. Oh, okay. And even though I don't wanna like fuck with the good guys numbers, listen to it next week when we're off. Wow, you're gonna get a call from Ben. Okay, wait, I'm gonna get another positive call from Ben

because today's a very exciting day because Spritz Society just announced their new Q Lab flavor. This is what we were talking about last week when we said we did a collab at Spritz Society that was made for our sister Olivia. What did I say? Last week. That was not five weeks ago.

No, but it was not last week. I feel like actually it was two, honestly. Two and a half maybe. I think I'm closer than you are. V8 spritz, it's a Bloody Mary spritz. It's made for our sister Olivia who literally was- Is obsessed. She used to chug V8 when we were like six.

Like she was obsessed. She still is, but like I can't think of V8 without thinking of Olivia Asher. No, same. And that's why this is so full circle. Everything that we do like ties back to our childhood. I think that's also just like, you know, life, but Bloody Mary Spritz, like we needed this.

It's a blood. It's literally, it tastes just like a Bloody Mary. Keep in mind, these are a lot less carbonated than our OG spritzes. It's still like a light sparkling, but it's not as carbonated as our usual spritzes. So keep that in mind. And it's our new cans.

They're huge. How many ounces? 12 ounces. I think our old ones were like eight or nine. So this is significantly bigger and the packaging is so partygy. Yeah, not as working with V8 owned by Campbell's. Like we are literally so legit, it's crazy.

So legit, get them now. I feel like Bloody Mary's are such a great holiday drink around the season. Like you're hungover, it's just a great vibe if you have people over for brunch. Like don't be you getting the blender out. Use the Spritz Society, be a Bloody Mary. It is exclusively being sold at SpritzSociety.com

while supplies last and like that's it. So get them all out there hot. SpritzSociety.com. Update in my journey of life. I have, as of yesterday, actually found a coffee that doesn't make me hurl. If you guys have been watching my coffee drinking journey even on the podcast, some days I have a coffee I take one sip. Yesterday for the first time since conception I finished a full coffee.

Would you like to know the recipe? It's quite crazy. Is it from Blank Street? No, I just get a cup of ice from the place. They hate me there. I get a cup of ice and heaven heaven. I don't pay for anything. By the way, Blank Street is owned by Black Rock.

They'll survive, okay? Yeah, it's a front. I just wanna say, I'm so ready to be owned by Black Rock. I feel like Black Rock buys everything. I was just talking to some guy and Ben was like, by the way, you know about his company. I'm like, who? He's like, Black Rock.

Are you fucking kidding me? Like, I can't, okay. I need Black Rock to invest in the Mark Schoenrider Holocaust Education Foundation. But like, by the way, you know about his company. I'm like, oh, he's like Black Rock. Are you fucking kidding me? Like, I can't, okay. I need Black Rock to invest in the Mark Schoenmacher Holocaust Education Foundation. But like, okay. One answer first. So here is my coffee for a girl who doesn't like coffee but needs it, and especially during pregnancy,

like could die from the taste of coffee. Of course, my Starbucks jug. Medium iced coffee, medium roast, unsweetened. Immediately add two packets of Splenda Stevia. I'm telling you it's a little sweeter, the Splenda Stevia, than Stevia or Splenda. I've been using Splenda Stevia. It's delicious, too.

Then, not a crazy, like a little splash, half and half. Never really had half and half before. It's delish. That's what I use at my house, is half and half. That's had half and half before. It's delish. That's what I use at my house is half and half. That's what I use at my house. I've been using, like, I'm shocked that you use half and half. That's the most shocking thing you just said. You always start making me get like special creamer for you.

Well, I'm not allowed to have my special creamer. But like Chobani creamer, Calythia. I'm having a version to Chobani creamer in my pregnancy. It was something I really liked before. And now like that and my way hand soap, if I never see either of them again, I will be so happy. Understood. Well, I'm on my Nespresso grind.

Whenever I'm sat for the show, it's my second. You're on your hot coffee grind, which is so crazy because you live in Florida. I know. Well, the place that I used to like to get my iced coffee jugs from, they close their Floridian location. So I turned back to my Nespresso machine

that's really always there for me. And we're back at it. They're so caffeinated. I drink two cups a day. So I'm cracked out for you guys. We love Cracky O. What do we want? And who makes this cup?

I feel like Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama. Who makes this glass? Is it Amazon? Like the ones that everybody has her Amazon No, it's I only have like two of them. You're gonna spill. Oh careful. They'll Ryan Bach, please Oh my god, I can't with you. You're so fancy. You're literally Heather Dubrow Amazon Villaroy and Bach So that's having coffee with my swirly this morning. Cheers.

Morning. Can we try and do a cheers? That's easier. Three, one, two, one. Cheers. I'm going to the doctor today. I haven't been to the doctor in forever. And let me tell you something.

So weird not going to the doctor. Like, I'm just supposed to believe there's a baby. And I don't have a bump, you know? So I'm just supposed to believe there's a baby in my belly. So how about bump watch? Like, do you sense a bump at all? Oh yeah, first of all, my skin is itching me, which means my skin is stretching.

Like seriously, kill me. And yes, I'm puffy. Like, it's just not like a perfectly round bump, but like there is new diameter. It's popping, you're popped a little bit. It doesn't look like a conventional bump, if you will. And the weird thing is that because I go to a high risk doctor,

even though I'm not a high risk, you know, knock one, knock one, knock one. Not a high risk patient, but I just love Dr. Fox. I think I get seen more than the average person. Like I have double the amount of scans that most people do. Also with the cervix drama, I will be getting more scans. And it still feels so weird Like the last time I went to the doctor was like three or four weeks ago

And it's just like because I don't have a bum and I'm starting to feel a little bit better obviously like I'm like, are we sure? Yeah, no, I guess I would get my period but like are we sure like how do we know for sure? Obviously my second pregnancy. I was at the doctor There was at one week where I was at the doctor every single day Like I was getting so much information, scans, images, but even my first pregnancy weirdly I had like elevated alpha-feta protein, like a little bit elevated so they saw me more throughout my pregnancy. I think I got images once a month and people don't. You literally only get

images like some. If you have our standard pregnancy like maybe two or three images the entire time. And I don't know. And so I know that people buy that machine where you can like hear baby's heartbeat. My friends, when I was like talking to them about it, I'm like, I feel so weird. Like, how do I know that like I'm pregnant? And I'm like, I think I'm getting that machine.

They're like, don't do it. First of all, a lot of times it just doesn't pick up the heartbeat. So you take yourself to the emergency room because of this stupid machine from Amazon. Claudia, say no more. Don't do it. And then sometimes you hear your own heartbeat.

Oh, well that's nice. So yeah, but like you think it's the baby's and it's not. And so it's beating really fast. And so like, I'm not getting it. But I just think it's like a weird part of pregnancy that you can't like check on the baby unless you go to the doctor. Or unless something feels wrong. That's why you really have to listen to your body.

Yeah, it's so true. I'm not good at that. Cause like I always feel like shit, you know? Yeah, but in this case, it's working in your favor. If you feel like shit, it's going, it's going. There are like a couple of things that people say to pregnant people that really piss me off. No, no, I wasn't saying that by the way.

No, no, I know. But it's a good conversation, sorry. I'm not attacking you. And that has to be one of the top three. Ugh, I feel like shit, well, that's good. Well, no, I actually was just talking to someone who said that in earnest. And she was like, when someone told me that,

it made me feel so much better. The worse you feel, the more it means baby's sucking more from you. That's baby is getting more. No, I get it. And like, it's a good- It's annoying to say. Also, what's annoying?

Like if I'm complaining about an ailment, just wait. Okay. No, I don't even feel the just wait because yes, certain things get harder, but other things go away. The pain and discomfort changes, it morphs. It doesn't grow, it's a different experience. Oh my God, and you know what's so funny? I actually remember when Olivia got pregnant

for the first time, my mother-in-law passed on a piece of advice to Olivia from me, and I remember thinking, I'm like, that's kind of harsh, honestly. Let me tell you, she was so right. She's like, people are gonna come up to you and tell you about their experience, and you need to just touch them on the shoulder

and say, I don't care. Like, when people, I don't give a fuck. Like, seriously, I don't give the tiniest little shit of a fuck, like, I don't give a fuck. Like seriously, I don't give the tiniest little shit of a fuck, like I don't care. And she was so right for that. Like, please do not share with me, like what you went through. Like I'm dealing with a lot

and I can't take on your shit right now. Pregnancy is more personal than comedy, more personal than food, more personal than poetry. So true. So there's your little update from La Tert. Bump date, even though I don't have one, I'm so ready for my bump. Because if I steal one more seat from an elderly person

without a proper bump, I'm gonna start getting attacked, for real. I also feel like when I'm crossing the street and stuff, people aren't being extra careful with me because I'm not so visibly pregnant or just look like a chubby girl. And I need them to start treating me with a little bit more tend,

I got honked in the street yesterday, like right up front. I'm like, I'm literally fucking pregnant. Like my baby can hear that. Move bitch. I need- Get out the way. I'm about to like Terry Schuster this shit and put on a fake bump.

Just so I get a little bit of like grace. Yeah. Nobody ever talk about the struggle of being pregnant without a bump. Like if you're like just a chubby girl who carries weight like her whole life. I'm not gonna have a bump for like eight months. I think it's a Terry Schuster situation.

Sometimes you got a Terry Schuster slash Bre Van De Kamp it up. Slash. I'm not saying it. Beyonce. That's one of my absolute favorite conspiracy theories. That was probably the first celebrity conspiracy theory I got into.

Yeah. Because of all the stuff that's happening with Jay-Z, all the theories are coming out of the woodwork. So I recently, just this week, saw that clip of her doing that interview where the belly folds. The belly flipped. I'm gonna shout to Dr. Fox today

and ask him if it's possible. Can you record his reaction? Even though what he will say is anything is possible. Everybody's different. Every body is different. And that is the truth. And like, it could be like a real Billy, but like also could be a film.

It could be a cyber film. Oh my gosh. That was such a crazy time. Yeah. And what else is going on with you? I'm gonna stick with you forever. I am working so hard on my project, on my personal project,

which you guys will see next week on patreon.com slash totoast. I literally like am up all night on my computer. Like my eyes are gonna just fall off from all of the scrolling that I'm doing, but I'm in such a good place that I need to shout out one of our sponsors. I don't know if they're a sponsor today. Wayfair, you've got just what I need.

Wayfair, I don't even know why I go to other websites to start in earnest. It always comes back to Wayfair. Their delivery is insane. The selection, like, oh, this one's not deep enough. I need a five more inches. Wayfair's, it's a marvel. We talk about Amazon a lot and Amazon is,

but Wayfair is in that category of doing the impossible. You just took the words right out of my mouth. Wayfair is the Amazon of the furniture space. Their shipping is fucking crazy. My nightstands are here. And they, oh, I need nightstands. They also have amazing customer service. They do.

Oh my gosh, remember what happened with my outdoor patio furniture? So I ordered a circular couch. You're like two years ago. When I first moved down here, I ordered a round couch for my patio. And instead they accidentally sent me two armchairs from the same collection, but they were armchairs

and that's not what I ordered. So they, I called them, they then got my couch on the truck and they said, and you know what? And you could keep the armchairs. It's like our gift to you. Like, sorry. And they are the best armchairs. And's like our gift to you. Like, sorry. And they are the best armchairs. And now I have the whole set and it's amazing.

I actually know that story. And every time I order from Wayfair, I like secretly hope that they fuck up and let me keep whatever they send. And then also send me what I ordered. You know what else I've been leaning on a lot? And I just want to thank my fellow comrades in Wayfair are the reviews.

Like the people who post reviews with photos. Photos. You are the unsung heroes of our country. And I hope that way they're like, I'm sure they incentivize you to leave a review. Maybe you got a credit or something, because I've never done it, but I use it all the time. So I've actually been noticing that a lot on Amazon.

So, cause I, especially like in my maternity era, my outfit right now is completely from Amazon. I was gonna ask you, I love your outfit. It is from Amazon. It is so comfortable. I'll post a link and affiliate. They have tons of reviews for like popular items with photos.

I actually think that it's people's jobs too, cause they're like creating premium content with these review photos. I think Amazon pays people to create reviews of their items just like in a bedroom. It's like a mom of four, like it's not a model. It's so fucking helpful. Like the amount of stuff that I have,

with furniture too on Amazon, they crush it. They crush it. So I'm just so thankful to the people who leave reviews, so much so that I kind of like, I wanna give back. Maybe I'll review one day to let people know because there are certain unsung heroes like of our society, like those who put back the grocery carts from the parking lot,

like that we don't think of every day. And people who leave photo detailed reviews of furniture and clothing on Amazon and Wayfair and websites of that nature are a part of those unsung heroes. They're literally, what did we call them during COVID like truck drivers? Essential workers. Essential workers. And I think, I don't know if Wayfair does this, but they should do an incentivization program where they give you a credit because those reviews certainly are helping me make purchases and not like dilly dally for too long.

And even if it's not like perfect, you know, oh, the canopy is a little short for anyone under five, seven. I'm like, OK, I'm five one. Yeah. And that's the other thing. Like I feel like reviews in general online, like get a better app. Like when it comes to restaurants and stuff I never take it seriously because only people who had a negative experience will leave a review But I feel like now we're taking the power back of reviews like Yelp to me is such a useless platform because it's only for complainers whereas

Individual item reviews are so detailed and they're not really coming in with a an agenda. Right. I feel like reviews are now for me like at a place in culture where they're helping people and for many years they weren't. I agree as they should what they were meant to do you know they're doing what they were meant to do. Yes exactly. And you love to see that so that's sort of where I've been at. Also I've been shopping so much Amazon. They have like amazing maternity shops. Like the maternity websites that you shop from, like Bumpsuit and like Hatch, they have shops on Amazon and you get prime shipping.

Part you lash. I just sent a bunch of stuff to your house. Yeah, I got a pair of white. Bumpsuit and Hatch are the two. I got a pair of white trousers. So you bitches better watch the fuck out this season, okay? Yeah, no, I think that's where really the only two places I had shopped from

was like Bumpsuit and Hatch for maternity wear. Like a Bum Suit and then a Hatch cardigan. Done. I don't have a bump. A bump for a Bum Suit, yeah. But I have been dipping my toe into maternity wear and I just slept in a pair of Hatch maternity pajamas that have like, like it goes up to your boob, you know, like that belly band. And of course I don't have a bump, but I loved it.

I used to get maternity pajamas from The Gap. Oh, I'll check that out. I'll check that out. Yeah. And then eventually I just switched to a nightgown. No waistband. Yeah. We are not doing the waistband.

Oh, yeah. I'm like a couple of weeks away from just sleeping in one of Ben's like t-shirts. I can't keep buying stuff. That too. Waistbands are the enemy. Yeah. I actually took a pair of scissors to expensive pajamas

to cut out the waistband only to find that it was completely sewn in. And I had to, like I destroyed the pants for nothing. Like I should have just kept them. Or you just cut a slit. I cut a slit in a couple of things. Yeah. This is just this very project runway over at my house.

Yeah, for sure. What else is new with you? And that's why you need like at my house. Yeah, for sure. What else do you need with you? And that's why you need just nap dresses. Yeah. How are the stories today? Oh my God, there are so many stories today. There's like three big stories and then the rest are kind of interchangeable

and some will probably get pushed till tomorrow. I think fifth and final, I'm gonna do a choose your own adventure dirty. I love that. I love being given a choice. Like that to me, it's so exciting. Especially cause we're not rushed today. No dear toasters, no recap.

It's just us. No segments. So the stories are going to get a lot. So AOS. AOS, all of substance. A lot of stories. I kind of like what mine said more. I agree. Without further ado, here are

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We gave our predictions, I think, you know, in all signs. It also got leaked yesterday, which I feel like it doesn't get leaked out. Like it's always a surprise. It did get leaked. I think like Time really had their braggas in a twist because they really like think that they're so iron. They take themselves so seriously.

They're under lock and key. But it did get leaked. Although the photo that was released wasn't the photo they ended up using, but the person. The photo was from 2016, I believe. Oh. That was confusing. I saw it too and I thought that was like this year's cover.

It was the new photo. I was like, damn. But no, I think it was just 2016. Got it, got it. And then this morning the cover dropped and an interview and he's the person of the year as he should be as he was the person of the year. Yeah.

So that's that on that. Are you ready for our first story? Actually shocking news that I didn't learn until I opened my iPad. What? Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco are engaged after dating for over a year. Selena and Benny are engaged.

She announced on Instagram Wednesday night, forever begins now. She captioned a carousel of photos showing off her diamond ring. One picture captured her beaming while sitting on a picnic blanket happily staring at her ring, and another she and him are cuddled up for a sweet embrace. I do of course wonder what this means

for those last remaining Jelena stans, because I feel like- Can they disperse now? Right, like Jelena has never been a remote possibility, right? He's literally married. But I feel like Selena was like, kind of like, not that she championed the Jelena movement,

but like she was still, it was kind of possible because of her. Yeah, for as long as she was available, like Jelena's had hope, but if she becomes like a happily married woman, then it's so, not that it wasn't already disrespectful to Haley and Justin,

but it seems to care about that. It would be like so disrespectful of her and they're her fans. So like what you're gonna invalidate her marriage by saying she should be with Justin, your wires are getting crossed. So I do wonder about all the people whose usernames are literally Jelena Stan, 807,

like what this means for them and their usernames. So that was my first thought, but maybe that's because I'm so toxic. That's so funny. I did not have that thought whatsoever. I was kind of surprised by this. Even though they've been dating. Me too, even though it's like, yeah,

the timeline is totally fine. Yeah, in like a normal world. Traditional. Like, and you know, she's like my age, I think. So again, I had a friend that was dating someone for over a year, seriously, and they got engaged like, oh, that's beautiful. So I, how would you feel if your father was dating someone your age? That would be different.

Yeah. I don't know that I would say that's beautiful. Um, I think I might say screw sisterhood, but I thought it was you walking through the front door. So regardless, this is a little bit surprising. I also feel like celebrities take their time with stuff. They're not like the first to get engaged. Also marriage in like California

and with celebrities and all that money is just like a weird institution. I thought you meant like that they, it seems like they shared it the day that it happened. I thought you were gonna say celebrities take their time like with the Haley Steinfeld, she waited a whole week. And then she said, look, we got engaged last weekend. Oh, no, I just meant like, we're always shocked

when they do things in a traditional timeline. Yes. So the fact that this was traditional airing on the side of, of quick was surprising to me. I wasn't like on the green watch. No, but if this was your friend, you wouldn't think it was weird. Not at all.

No, no, no, I think this is like a beautiful and healthy relationship. Yeah. I agree. I just wanna say that's what's surprising is a beautiful, healthy relationship in Hollywood. This isn't a relationship that I particularly champion or really understand.

It does feel like kind of random to me, but I do think that they are well suited for one another. And I think that they have potential. And it's not like Selena Gomez actually is not, she's not like always dating a million people. She's never been engaged before. She's not one of those celebrities who like kind of takes relationships and specifically like engagements for people. She's never been engaged before. She's not one of those celebrities who like kind of takes relationships

and specifically like engagements for nothing, you know? She's never been engaged before, where I feel a lot of her compatriots have been engaged a couple of times. So does this mean they'll actually make it down the aisle? In celebrity world, no, but I don't know, she's kind of a serious girl when it comes to relationships. So I feel like maybe.

Yeah, that was gonna be my next question. Like, do you think that they will get married? This happens all the time. Like just because a young Hollywood thing gets engaged, like does not mean she's getting married. It's, it's a piece of jewelry, but these two feel different to me. Like he doesn't have a million girlfriends.

She doesn't have a million boyfriends. They haven't been engaged multiple times. Like, I don't know. I kind of feel like they might. Yeah. Do you know what popped into my head yesterday that now is coming back into my head, but it came into my head before this, so I don't want it to invalidate this.

But remember when Demi Lovato was engaged to that guy? Jackie, of course, that's what I was thinking of when I said that, like how, young Hollywood things get engaged for jewelry. Yeah, but he turned out to be just such a loser grifter. Loser, Jackie, he was an actual con man. He should be on American green. And I just wanna say, for some reason,

I thought of him yesterday, not after the Selena news drop, but now I'm thinking about him again. But obviously, Benny Blanco is not that. No, sometimes celebrities like get engaged and like who doesn't wanna feel like loved and proposed to? Right, right. The odd thing, not odd, but Benny Blanco also does have like a working and personal relationship with Justin Bieber.

Now I'm sorry to keep bringing them into this because I'm so toxic like that, but they, like some of the biggest hits from Justin are Benny songs. Some of the biggest hits in the world are Benny songs. From back in the day? Like, no. Okay, Benny Blanco, Justin Bieber songs. Lonely I feel like is their song.

When did that come out? In 2020. Okay, I don't know. At a certain way everyone works together, you know? Earth, I don't know that song, and Cold Water. Cold Water sounds familiar. Like would, under different circumstances, like Justin might be invited to Benny Blanco's wedding, not his wedding to Selena Gomez, but yeah. Interesting. I think it's nice, and obviously like all the celebs were commenting on her post, Taylor saying,

I wanna be the flower girl. So it seems like legit, I don't know why it's just like, these two exist in like a universe not of my own. Do you know what I mean? I don't think about them a lot, but I do think they might end up making it down the aisle. I hope that they do. I hope that they do.

I hope that they do too. I hope that they do. And so for now, I don't know why we keep talking about it. Like it's like not happening. Because that's not, For now. Because that's just a Hollywood thing. Like it's such a pessimistic outlook. I don't know where it's coming from, but this is what it's all about folks.

Love, love is the thing. You know? Love is the thing. The ring is beautiful. Yes. What shape is that diamond? Is that a marquee? It's a diamond shape. Like it's a...

I'm pretty sure it's a marquee. That's what it's called. But it looks like a diamond, you know, like the shape of a diamond, not the stone. Yes, it's a marquee. The weird thing is that like, when a, like no matter, everybody has their own like diamond shapes that they like, but at a certain size,

like they're all beautiful. Do you know what I mean? Like I happen to think probably when I was getting engaged like Markey would have been last on my list. Selena's big ass Markey, I'll take it. Yeah, no, it's very, very, he did, as they say, and I hate this phrase. He did good.

You did good. You did good. But he did do well. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah, it's also incorrect grammatically. He did good. But he did do well. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah, it's also incorrect grammatically. He did good. He did good. He did well.

Our next story is some podcasting drama that's been bubbling for weeks that has now hit a fever pitch because Briana Chicken Fry is back in the news. BFFs is back as a drama podcast because Bri and the gang are addressing what's going on with Plan Bri, her other podcast that she was doing

with her best friend, Grace. So if you've been following like Zach and Bri and Dave and Josh and the gang, then you know this. And Grace. If you haven't, we're not speaking English. I just wanna say like- Yeah, okay.

I'll give like a little bit of backstory for the Grands. So the Grown Chicken Fry got, Brianna Chicken Fry got signed to Barstool a couple of years ago. And she brought with her a podcast that she had started in her college dorm room called Plan Bree. It's obviously a play on Plan B.

And Brianna. She, the podcast like was doing well. It was a bunch of different, I wouldn't categorize it as one particular thing. It was just like a show by her and her interests. And at some point when she started to do really well at Barstool, she started to do BFF. She was becoming more well known. She brought her friend, Bree from home. This is, excuse me, Grace. This is her best friend from childhood. Friend since they were 10.

She asked if she wanted to A, move to New York with her, and B, like try to get her a job at Barstool. They would like bring her into the office, bring her on Plan Bree. And it actually, I remember watching it happen very organically, like she would come on one at a time, and then people in the office started to like her and asked her to come on this podcast.

And she ended up getting a job, like a salaried job at Barstool through Brianna and ended up being like the full-time co-host of the Plan Bree show. The Plan Bree had went through like a bunch of different iterations, but then it ended up being like a swirly show with two best friend swirlies.

And the internet, like Grace very quickly gained an audience of her own. She's super different from Brianna. She's very self-deprecating. Her goal has always been comedy. She's super different from Brianna. She's very self-deprecating. Her, um, her goal has always been comedy. She loves, you know, stand up. And so they're actually quite different, but they're best friends have always really complimented each other. And then when Brianna started dating Zach, there was clearly like a separation between the two. Now anyone who gets into a serious relationship, like you are going to change your relationship with your best

friend. But now of course, knowing what we know and what abusers do, he was clearly trying to isolate Brianna, so her not being spotted around with Grace like she used to be, and they were like, typical young 20 best friends, sleepovers all the time, to then nothing, people started to be suspicious. Not nothing, because they were still doing their podcast together, and I remember-

Okay, but they were doing it, but Grace moved to New York, and literally Brianna remember- Okay, but they were doing it, but like, Grace moved to New York and like literally Brianna left New York and she was doing it remotely and she was building a studio in Massachusetts. Like the space between them was widening. Yes, it was widening. I feel like we talked about it on the show

because there was conversations like on the internet, maybe a year ago at this point about how like Brianna like left her friend Grace because she got a boyfriend. And we were just saying like, that's kind of what happens sometimes in serious relationships. So there had been like conversations

about their friendship on the internet for a long time. And the general consensus and when Brianna started dating Zach, like the internet just like hated her. And so really people took up for Grace and Grace is like not a, you know, she's never been, Grace doesn't have any drama.

There's no reason for somebody on the internet not to like Grace, right? She's never done anything. Whereas Brianna, like because you're an internet personality of a bigger size and you've been doing it for longer, you have scandals, you have cancellations. So people have reasons that they think that they should hate you, right?

So when Brianna started dating Zach, she automatically got this like huge target on her back. People hated her for a million different things, mostly because they were jealous. But then when it came to the Grace stuff, the fans of the show really took Grace's side because it appeared as though Brianna got a boyfriend and never talked to her best friend again.

She thinks she's too good for the podcast. She's moving out of New York. She thinks she's too good for Grace and she's leaving Grace behind. And when the news came out about Bri and Zach, I think everybody was like, okay, well, this is obviously way more complex than we thought. And maybe the Brianna Grace thing is like not really

what we thought it was. And they weren't sharing a lot of their friendship because Grace couldn't really share what her friend was going through. So like people were like, okay, we actually have it all wrong. Yeah. And it wasn't like Brianna coming between their friendship.

It was really like Zach. And now that he's gone, they'll come back together cause he was keeping them apart. And it all looked like it made sense. Except that Plan Bree, the podcast hasn't returned. Since October. So people were like, well, no, I think there is something going on between those two.

And for as long as people have thought there's something going on between them, they both have individually maintained, mostly Brianna, like when asked, like it's all good. Yeah, and Grace hadn't said anything. We even were talking about a few weeks ago, how like there was rumors that people thought maybe she signed the NDA and took money

to not share the video from what had happened. But not good, not bad. She didn't say anything in all this time that Brianna has been the headline story, her best friend. She wasn't speaking on the situation. So we were like, I thought that was maybe like out of respect sort of thing. It's like, what can you say?

And it's not, it's Brianna telling her story, then Grace, we literally said that. It's not about Grace right now, it's about Brianna. After Brianna had shared her story, then like Grace would come in supplementally, share hers. That's not what happened. That's not what happened. So then last week, I guess when Spotify wrapped came out,

Brianna shared that like somebody tagged her in, like Plan Bree was my number one show of the year. And she was like, oh, you know, I'm really trying to figure out a way to get Plan Bree back to you. To bring it back. In some capacity. Yes.

And I guess that set Grace off. And for the first time ever, Grace has spoken out. She released this three- slide note statement. Basically saying that like they have known for a while that the show was ending and for the last couple of months they've been working on a way to tell people whether that's a video together, a statement,

they haven't been able to fully come to agreement on how they wanna announce it, but Grace felt like Breanna posting that Spotify rap thing was like the biggest slap in the face. Like blindsided her. And blindsided her. And she was like, well, now I'm speaking my truth. And she released that three slide statement being like,

yeah, the show's not coming back. We've known for a while. And I had no idea that Brianna was like working on bringing it back without me. Right. And she, and also while also being like, I've never posted a statement like this. I never want to post a statement like this.

Like it kills me that I'm even writing something like this. I feel so awkward. Like very much like couching everything by like, like not like this was her last resort that she had to post. She was pushed to this point. Right. So she posted that and it's like, so right now we're thinking like,

oh, they decided not to do plan Brie, but Brianna is going to bring it back without grace. Like stabbing the back. So then finally they did a whole BFFs pod about it. Yesterday I watched it. Where they did like 15 minutes at the end of the episode. Dave literally was like, just say what you have to say. Brianna got really emotional

and she had a couple of key points, but she overall said that there has definitely been a fracture in their relationship. Like for as long as people have assumed. And for Brianna, and you know, it's hard for me to only hear one side of someone's story because I always take that person's side. Like you've given me no other.

Yeah. So, and I really do believe Brianna and people hated Brianna's response. They think she's the devil. They think her ego's out of control. It's, it's, Grace's statement, the fans already had been on Grace's side. Yeah.

Grace's three slide statement incentivized them even more. And then when Brianna released this episode, people are not buying anything she's saying, but I do think she raised a couple of valid points. Agreed. The first was reminding people that Plan Bree was started by her in her college dorm. And if the show worked out with Grace, great.

If it didn't, it is her show to continue on without. Like a lot of people are comparing it to Call Her Daddy, right? They started it together, totally different. This is a show that existed before Grace. And so she reminded people of that. And I think that like people didn't like her saying that, but it is an important fact.

But also what she said was when she said we're bringing it back in some capacity, she was gonna bring on new hosts and so that the fans could still have like a plan, Brie, which was very much like a college show. She was gonna like reboot it with new people. She wasn't like doing it now alone without Grace and kicking Grace to the curb.

So Grace kind of like jumped the gun on thinking that. But then Brie also said, but if I wanted to be on it, like I can do that, it was my show. Right, so I think a lot of people, their takeaway from Brianna's interview was like, she sounded really egotistical. But because saying that. It was my show. Right. So I think a lot of people heard their takeaway from Brianna's interview was like, she sounded really egotistical, but because saying that like it's my show. Well, you know what? It is. And that's an important fact. And I think another thing she said that really rubbed people the wrong way was that like, listen, I brought grace into all this. Like I was on the up and up.

I was having this, I wanted to work at Barstool. I wanted to work in media. I started this podcast. I started to take off and I brought grace into it. I let her stay with me. Like I got her the job. I've been so, such a champion of her. So people think that like, because Grace's, you know, career started to take off and like Brianna couldn't handle it. No, that was actually by design. And so people think she like sounded like a bitch

on the podcast. She didn't say like I invented Grace, but she said like, how you guys can think that is so crazy. I have seen in her what you all see in her since we're kids. And like, I brought her like, do you know how hard it is to get recognized in media and like to bring on your best friend on the up. She wasn't even at a level yet where she could just like,

you know, do favors for her friends. She brought her friend in at the ground level and people did not like the way that she sounded, but I totally understood what she said. She was like, you guys think I'm this sort of like devilish jealous monster, but like, it was, it was me. I brought her in, like I agree with you guys. She's a star. That's how people heard it. But no like it was, it was me, I brought her in. Like I agree with you guys. She's a star.

That's how people heard it. But no, what she was saying was you, I couldn't be jealous of her success. This is what I wanted for her from the beginning. And here, and just like, she's telling these anecdotes to prove how she did or tried to do that for her. Yes.

The biggest thing she said that people had the biggest issue with too, cause I was reading the comments and everyone hated everything she said. The biggest thing was that like the internet has played such a big part in their friendship and the pitting of two women against each other, like it actually created division between them because how Briana feels is that grace just sort of like let the internet take her side, prop her up, beat down Briana without ever like speaking out and defending her. That was her up, beat down Brianna without ever speaking out and defending her.

That was her biggest gripe with Grace is that when people started to pit them against one another, Grace never said stop, Grace never said, guys, Brianna's a good friend. And she just sort of let people pile on Brianna, especially when Brianna was going through that abusive relationship with Zach, which Grace knew about.

So Brianna feels like she knew what I was going through. The internet was hating me, partially because of Zach, partially because of her, and she didn't, like nothing to stop it. And people were like shocked that she said that out loud, like that it was so shallow. Like your friendship since your best friends has to do with the internet.

And it's really easy for people to like think it's so stupid. Like, oh, she didn't defend me on the internet. Like it sounds trivial. Although when you are going through it, like somebody standing up for you means a lot and it can make a difference in the reception, the perception of you. The person who's good in their eyes.

I didn't think it was trivial at all. I mean, it's easy for us to put ourselves in their shoes because we do a podcast together. So immediately I was like, if there was this narrative about me for like a year that I was this bad person that I was a bad friend, like, and it was affecting, some people might not hit the level where it registers

that you need to address it, but you could tell it was affecting me. Like in two seconds, you would be like, leave her alone. And especially when they were doing it in service of you. Right, to prop me up. Right, like it's not even like, it's someone else who wouldn't defend you, but it's like they're pitting us against each other

and you're my best friend, and like you have the power in their eyes to shine your light on me and that you wouldn't do that not once and you see how much it's affecting me. You also see that I'm just like, I'm not going through things personally. I'm not doing well.

Right. Like the, and that she even had to like, I think she said that she asked Grace to like say something and that Grace never did. Like I understand, I was able to like understand and be like, oh, that's upsetting. Now it's easy for me to have this POV because I haven't heard from Grace.

And the only thing I've heard was that statement, which I felt like was jumping the gun a little bit. I would love to hear from Grace, like what her POV is, because I didn't think Brianna said anything that crazy, even though people are gonna, this is gonna be like a hot take. People think everyone's team, Grace. And I'm not team anyone.

I heard from Brianna and I thought what she said was compelling and I understood it. I would love to hear from Grace because maybe her version of events is compelling and truthful and I would find it, you know, truthful as well. So I think when Grace, and there's a lot of history there, but then when Grace saw that statement,

like we're bringing Plan Bri back, when like she's been on just the side of like, Plan Bri is over, how are we gonna announce it? And then it looks like Bri's doing all these things behind your back. Like that would be the time to call Brianna, but there weren't really speaking. And I think she just like saw red and was like,

oh, I have to ask her everything that's happened, how she left me, like, I need to say, like I think she jumped- And you guys don't understand, her releasing a statement was so crazy. She like never speaks out. Never speaks out. I think she like just jumped the gun,

like just assumed a mis-intent that like wasn't there. And that's what has made all of this explode was that statement. And I think, you know, in hindsight, her releasing this statement, like wasn't the right thing to do. And even Josh and Dave who love Grace and work with her and like are friends with both of them were like,

that wasn't the right thing to do. Especially when you're like- Especially because they haven't handled their relationship issues privately at all. So if the first time she's like, Grace is sort of gonna speak up for herself, if for it to be public, when these are people who've been best friends

since they're literal, like in elementary school, I think it was kind of the nail in the coffin. It's so sad to see these two like not be friends anymore. Like I don't know if I thought the whole thing water line, but like when, and I was saying this on the podcast a few weeks ago, how I was like, how I was looking at Grace and Breeze Instagram a few weeks ago,

when I was just like in this drama and like thinking about how Zach Brian came between their like 20 year friendship, like seriously like was making me so emotional. And then I was listening again to it today. And like, it makes me so sad. And I think if we heard from Grace, what she would really say is how she felt in that moment when she posted a statement,

like how she just felt like completely left behind this, that, this, that, and like what led her to post the statement, even though maybe overall, it wasn't the right decision. Like I think the way she felt in that moment, like nothing could have stopped her. Yeah, right. If she could identify that,

maybe she would stand by the statement now, I don't know. It is so sad. And I think one of the cool things that like, at the time people liked it, now people just like hate Brianna for everything she does. So like, it's, but the fact that she like, you know, had this opportunity and decided to take her best friend with her, like a lot of people wouldn't do.

And it has worked out so well for, for Grace. Not only is her bar stool career popping off, everybody loves her. She does all the shows and she has tons of followers, but her TikTok career really took off. Her comedy career took off. A lot of people know she's on a national tour right now, opening for Whitney Cummings.

She's like one of the biggest female comedians. So that's kind of what Brianna was saying. And people thought it sounded like, so pick me. And like, I did it. But like, look at the opportunity she gave Grace, created all of this. Now, Grace is talented. And if she wasn't, she wouldn't have gotten all this.

But some, your best friend giving you a leg up, like, yeah, that counts for something. And that's someone who loves you and supports you. So the fact that they were that type of close, because not a lot of bitches would take their best friend with them, it had to be a special type of friend. Like the fact that they were that close and their families are close and they grew up together.

Oh my God, this is actually the saddest thing. And that's why it's not call her daddy. Like Alex and Sophia were friends for like two, three years. They met in an Uber pool. Like, yeah, that's what I heard. That's so funny. I think so. I think. No, that sounds right. Like they were so crazy back then. Like that yeah, that's what I heard. That's so funny. I think so. I think.

No, that sounds right. Like they were so crazy back then. Like that's shit that they would do. Right. Something like that. There was like a third person too, who like put them together. These are girls who are friends since they were 10. Like even in the stories that are written about it,

like they have all these photos of them like going to prom together. Like it's a sisterhood and like that's really, really sad. So I think a good example of why they stopped the show and it was Brianna's idea to stop doing the show because we had talked about this. Remember the Menendez Brothers thing? Yes.

So like that was the month where like people were just so fucking done with Brianna and Brianna had told a story of her and Grace going to Atlantic city when they were like 15 and they ended up like giving like hand jobs to like these 60 year old guys or something. They didn't say that exactly. They didn't say exactly like what happened

between the men and the girls, but that like it was a situation where they were taken advantage of. Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe not me just making up hand jobs. I don't know. Maybe you didn't, but I watched the whole clip and I don't remember a hand job,

but maybe I'm misremembering. So they were telling the story honestly, it's like a cautionary tale, but also like how they just used to be so crazy. Like, and now they look back as grown women. Grace was doing her show in Atlantic City. And so Brianna is like, I hope it's different for you this time. Girls out there. Like if someone is an older man comes like kind of like, uh, you know, saying a hypothetical cautionary tale that like clearly happened to Grace and then also to Brie. So the internet perceived it as a story that only happened to Grace

and that Brianna was like victim blaming her. And like that was as big as the Menendez in their like podcast community. They were like, she told a story that Grace was not comfortable with and then victim blamed Grace in the story of her trauma as a kid. And I think that one, it's a story that happened

to both of them, two, Grace was okay with it being kept in the podcast or else she would have asked for it to be taken out, like things are prerecorded. And that was like another thing that like the internet descended on Brianna for, and Grace could have just said, no, no guys, like it's fine, first of all, and it's true. And it happened to both of us, but she didn't. And so they were just getting into a pattern

where they would record an episode and like try, and Brianna would try to like not say anything crazy, but people were just like hating her and loving Grace. And that's such a toxic dynamic, especially when you're trying to be funny and interesting and insightful. So it makes sense why Brianna wanted to stop doing it that type of way.

Cause that's not a way to live. No, and she said the comments would just become a forum for bullying me. And like, why am I putting myself out there just to get hated? Nobody wants to do that. And she has other things that she could be doing. I would love, like I kind of need in a biblical sense

to hear from Grace. I think that we will hear from Grace. In what format? Grace is welcome on the toast. Grace is welcome. I think she's a toaster. I think she is too. And like she's just really,

and that's the thing it's like, I hate when people like take credit for other people's success, right? Cause like you can give someone a leg up, but if they're like unfunny, it happens to Neppo babies all the time, right? Like how many unsuccessful Neppo babies are there? Like you need to have the star quality

and people love Grace for a reason. Like she's so relatable, she's so real, she's very funny. And I don't feel like Brianna was taking credit for it. I think Brianna was just trying to paint a picture of herself, I think she feels very misunderstood. Being like, you guys think I'm like this jealous, evil, like spiteful Grace. No, no, not I invented Grace, but like I love Grace just as much as you guys. I'm like this jealous, evil, like spiteful Grace. No, no, not I invented Grace,

but like I love Grace just as much as you guys. I see in her what you do. Like I- And I wanted this for her. And I did everything I could to help her get where she is. And it's hard to like- And she did. When you're backed into a corner.

But Grace also did it herself, but it wouldn't have happened without that push from Brianna. Yeah. Everyone has somewhere that they got their start. Someone who gave them a little something along the way. Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey is your something along the way. Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey is your Brianna Chicken Fry. Steve Harvey is my Brianna Chicken Fry. Ha ha.

Whoa. But it's also like, you can't win when you're backed into a corner, a picture is painted of you of being like a jealous person. And then, so in order to say like, no, I'm not jealous. I wanted this for her and I helped her. Then it's like, you're making about yourself because you're, you can't win.

And that's why at a certain point, you have to like just make peace with people misunderstanding you. You know who you are, know thyself, but it is a very hard, harsh world. Yeah, because I had a thought and I actually thought about like maybe even DMing it to Breonna Chicken Fry, but like nobody wants to hear like,

because I know she knows this, but one of my takeaways from the episode was, she puts a lot of stock and a lot of inventory in what the internet thinks about her. And it's so hard not to, and I'm sure she's working on it. But, and by the way, I, because I'm now like interested in this story, it's all over my TikTok. And there's a million like mean bitchy ass drama channels

like, and they hate Brianna. So I've never had that level of interest in a negative way. So I speak humbly, but she needs to for her own health, like she needs to let go. It's so hard. It's so hard. I don't know how to do it, but she needs to actively. I'm sure she is, but I hope she's actively working on that

because you put so much stock in what other people think about you. It's such a losing game, especially at the level that you're at with the internet, that if you're happy with yourself, that's literally all that matters. And the people around you, your family, your coworkers, if everybody around you speaks well of you,

that's what matters. Yeah, I think that will come. It takes time and age, and that's also what's hard for them, is they're at this such a delicate age where you're learning who you are about yourself and the internet's also telling you who you are. And you're like, wait, I don't think that's who I am.

But like, and you just start to question yourself. And I think over time that she'll like harden and be able to tune that out. But it's something that you really have to learn the hard way. And everyone can tell you, you know, it doesn't matter. Don't listen to the haters. But like, you have to learn the hard way. That's the other thing you have to remember.

These girls are 25. Like when you were 25 and you had a fight with your friend, like you probably didn't handle the whole thing perfectly. Like, but it's not, it's not at the level that this is, and it's not, you know, scaled, but so it's so important to keep that in mind. It is very important to keep that in mind. And I think in time, like she will emerge from this

and like, you know, be able to tune out the noise. But also when you're a public figure and more so an influencer creator, like your job is currying favor with the public and being liked. And like when it feels like you have all this hate and it's like, wait, do I even have a job if everybody hates me? Like you do also have to like listen to it just a tiny bit, just to make sure like that you have enough to pay your bills. So it's a very, very hard line to walk. I do feel like it's beyond this point, but I really hope these two work it out

Like and I don't think that they like once you take it public like it's over but it's the beginning and I just I Think they could work it out right now in time if nothing more happens You just like say grace shares how she was feeling in that moment I think that they could forgive each other for this incident and build back. And I think that they could work it out if nothing worse happens. Because I remember when we were doing

the call her daddy things, we were like, the whole time we were like, get back together. We were imploring them to get back together like from a business POV, because like it was so valuable. We knew what it was for this, like for your soul. Yeah, I think if nothing- Not for business, the podcast wasn't ever like. I think if nothing- Not for business. The podcast wasn't ever like huge.

Like it was a successful barstool, but it wasn't like you call her daddy for their souls. Like they need each other. I am imploring them to work it out. I think if nothing worse happens and this is like the worst it got. We can come back. We can come back.

We can come back. 1000%. Great. We'll see what happens. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Our third story. Yeah. Actually one of our favorite pop culture tropes,

Shawn Mendes is seemingly addressing the Sabrina Carpenter Camila Cabello love triangle for the first time. And honestly, like, and by seeming what? I didn't know that he had never spoken about it, but also like, I kind of don't need to hear from him on this. Like, he's not the sharpest like, I kind of don't need to hear from him on this. No, but I need to hear- He's not the sharpest tool.

Like I just, I need to hear from Breaner. And like I'm interested from Camilla, but like Shaman is like, I actually don't care. The information that he's sharing like does just, you know, tell, paint, help paint the picture that Sabrina was talking about. Cause I feel like we did hear about Sabrina cause low key short and sweet

is like a Shawn Mendes slam album. Slander, yeah. In a preview for Thursday's episode of John Mayer's SiriusXM show called How's Life, Shawn Mendes says that while he was quote dating someone, he reunited with an ex girlfriend due to some unresolved feelings. He says, by the way, not him actually validating Breiner. Yeah. He said two days before going to hang with my ex, I express him going to hang with my ex because I have some unresolved feelings. In hindsight, he says that maybe instead of two days, he should have told her two weeks ahead of time,

not the right lesson. A hundred percent. He should not be going to see an ex period. And if you have unresolved feelings, like work them out within yourself, there's nothing that your ex can say or do that's gonna like make it better or worse. John then asked Sean,

is there something in all of this that you could say, yeah, I played that wrong. He reacts by saying the biggest lesson he learned in life is no one gets out of this life without getting hurt and no one gets out of this life without hurting someone, yawn. No, I just know if me and Shawn Mendes went to high school together, we would hate each other.

Like he's so lame. So this, you know, does hark back to the time he was spent Valentine's day with Sabrina. Palm Springs. Palm Springs and then a few months later he's kissing Camilla at Coachella. So. And what's the line in her album?

Thalga, that's your ex's house. That's that day. Made sure that the phone was phased down. Seems like overnight I'm just a bitch you hate now. Devastating. Devastating for the brain. I cannot believe all those songs are about Shawn Mendes. It's actually the craziest thing.

And I can't believe you didn't know that upon, once I heard Sharpest Tool, I'm like, oh, that's so Shawn Mendes. And then I listened to the rest of the album, most of it, except for like Bed Chem, which is clearly Barry Keoghan. Like a lot of the, like the love triangle things, I'm like, oh, that's totally Shawn Mendes.

Yeah. And this is just like that this happened this exact way, like by the way, Breaner is a truth teller, not that we ever thought she wasn't. And that he had to like see his ex to deal with unresolved feelings and winds up falling back in love with her. Like, yeah, short and sweet, dropping soon.

They had been broken up for so long, him and Camilla. Like, where were the unresolved feelings when you were single? Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I just don't like that, period. No, but I do find the Shawn Mendes, Shawn Mayer friendship to be so interesting because I feel like they-

Wait, and then John Mayer and Breiner. Oh, that, yeah. But I also think that like John, Shawn Mendes and his team, like, definitely try to position him as like a young John Mayer. And I feel like John Mayer has kind of given his blessing to Shawn Mendes to do that. Although do you feel like Shawn Mendes has kind of fallen off a little bit,

like when it comes to popular music and just popularity? 100%, but I think it's Shawn's choice. Intentional, I agree. I think he does not like being famous. It's Shawny's choice, choice, choice. It's Shawny's choice. Intentional, I agree. I think he does not like being famous. It's Sean's choice, choice, choice. It's Sean's choice. It's Sean's choice. I love that. Like I think we've got too much for him.

I think he took a step back for his mental health. I think whenever he wants to be more successful, like he can turn it up or down. The fans are waiting for him. He's very talented. And so I think this is like an Addison situation. Yeah, I agree. I think he fell off by design.

But it did remind me something, an interesting conversation we had yesterday about like Renee Rapp and celebrities who leave like popular things to pursue other projects. A lot of people in the comments had some great comparisons to people who left very popular shows. I didn't realize because I'm not into the office lore, but Steve Carell left the office at its peak. They say it was for Despicable Me, but I

think also like he was over the role and that did not affect him. No, and he went on to flourish and maybe he wouldn't have if he was still like doing TV all the time. And a lot of people in the Renee Rap analysis who people agreed with me they had this thought also a lot of people blamed Mean Girls the musical movie because I did forget that in between all of this, she went on a big press tour for this huge movie that was horrible and flopped. And I think that that put a dent in her momentum as well.

I forgot about that because I never saw the movie. Yeah, but also like in the industry, it's like, oh, we thought Renee rapped, like you're gonna get people to theaters, plus it's Mean Girls, it's musical. Like this should have been a slam dunk. You should have been a bandaid for the whole thing. And when that doesn't happen, it's like, oh, we thought Renee rapped. Like you're gonna get people to theaters. Plus it's Mean Girls, it's musical. Like this should have been a slam dunk. You should have been a bandaid for the whole thing. And when that doesn't happen, it's like,

oh, you don't have that selling power. Like it would have elevated her. That was the thing. And it didn't go that way. So then- It decreases your stock. I think the stock was decreased and that is a very good, oh, she finished her coffee.

That is- Finished her coffee. I think that's a really fair analysis and that feels right. That does feel like what happened. Yeah, it does. Also, don't forget the lyric in taste, back to the story, heard you're back together and if that's true, you'll just have to taste me

when he's kissing you, which like, that explains that. And then also the music video with Jenna Ortega, who's so Camila Cabello coded and it was so clearly. It was a duh. No, but what's the other line that like people really didn't like, but I thought it was like. From taste? You drove from LA straight to her thighs.

Like she's fucking funny, I'm sorry. Which song is that? It is... Is that found God at your ex's house? I think so. We never talk about how you found, is it found God or found love? God.

At your ex's house. Sabrina drove straight to her thighs. I'm just trying to find the song, which one is it? Coincidence. Oh, and that's... Yeah. Read it. Okay.

Read it in Weep, dirty. What a surprise, your phone just died. Your car drove itself from LA to her thighs. So he drives a Tesla. Right. from LA to her thighs. So he drives a Tesla. Right. Palm Springs looks nice, but who's by your side?

Damn it, she looks kinda like the girl you outgrew. Cause that's what you said. Such a good album. What a coincidence. Ooh la la. la la la. So good. Album of the year, by the way. By the way?

I know we were like all teetering, Grammys, what should it be? It should be short and sweet. I agree. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Someone, I know- If it's our next story,

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You're welcome. Our next story, a little casting news. Austin Butler will star as Patrick Bateman in a new take on American Psycho. So Austin Butler has got the role to star in Luca Guadagnino's new interpretation star as Patrick Bateman in a new take on American Psycho. So Austin Butler's got the role to star in Luca Guadagnino's new interpretation of the book. Vinny's cousin?

I was thinking the same thing, new interpretation of the book American Psycho. While there had been rumors that Jacob Elordi was being eyed to play Patrick Bateman, that casting didn't come to pass. Oh, you just know those two hate each other. They're like, they date the same girls. They both played Elvis.

They look for the same roles. No, like they can't get away hate each other. They like, they date the same girls. They both played Elvis. They look for the same roles. No, like they can't get away from each other. It's true. Maybe one day like Austin will play Jacob in a movie. I don't know what was that. It's literally so weird how they can't get away from each other. Austin Butler has not done like a major movie since Elvis.

And I just want to say, I'm like really not looking forward to like him being back on the press circuit, like with a knife. Oh yeah, now he's a psychopath. Like he's just want to say, I'm like really not looking forward to like him being back on the press circuit, like with a knife. And just be- Oh yeah, now he's a psychopath. Yeah, like he's just going to be so crazy. And I kind of hated it. Like Elvis, the movie was amazing.

And so I'm not knocking his talent. I'm actually knocking him as a person. In a worse sense, like personally. He seems insufferable and I don't want to see it. Every news story, like, Austin Butler shows up to your house with a bloody knife. Like fuck off. I know, but I am happy for Kaia Gerber because, like, Austin Butler shows up to your house with a bloody knife. Like, fuck off.

I know, but I am happy for Kaia Gerber because I feel like Austin Butler was getting to a place of like- He lays around the house. Like, what is he gonna do next? Can he do anything next? Like he was supposed to be the next Elvis and now he's just like unemployed sitting on the couch.

Kind of a hot take. I, okay, this is good. Like, it's a good role. Obviously a lot, it's the job a million girls wanted. Just what's his name? Jacob Lordy like one. So this is like a good role, obviously. But I do think after this, he needs to play someone who like, he's not imitating, because he's kind of becoming like a clown, like where you just show up and impersonate

like a professional clown. He's becoming like an impersonator when you impersonate it like literally. Like a professional clown. He's becoming like an impersonator when you- An impersonator, like literally he needs to move to Vegas. He's gonna do birthday parties next year. Yeah, so he needs to after this, cause this is I think like a big, it's obviously like a good role, but I don't want him to be put in a box where it's like he only comes out

to like play someone who's dead. Yeah, yeah he needs to like invent someone. At this point he's just copying. He needs to invent. Yeah, so cause obviously he's an impressive actor, but if you're only just copying what other people have already done, like you're just sort of a Xerox machine.

You're not an actor. Do you know what I mean? It's true. This movie does have the makings to be like, you know, a big thing. Big time. The director, Guadagnino, he did call me by your name, challengers, so it should be of that elk. Oh, okay, of that elk.

That elk is not of the Elvis elk. No, that was more commercial, and this is more artistic, but also commercial. And he, Austin Butler has got a face for commercials. I think people will come out to see this, plus it has the original fans who never wanna see their favorite movie redone, so they'll be skipping it.

They'll riot. I think it's what, you know, he needs to do something next. And this is a good idea. He definitely like took a long break. I'm sure Kaia Gerber is like, what if you went for an audition today? Maybe a walk around the neighborhood. I think he like lays at home all day.

Yeah. And ever since you were the one who like told me, I don't know if you had proof of this, but just the vibe, like he's a social climber and like follows Kaya around to like her fancy like parents parties and like, I see it. 100%. I don't know how she's still with him. And he was like, hey Kaya, what are we doing this weekend? Yeah. Yeah.

And they're another couple. Like how long are you going to be engaged? I took engagements in Hollywood. Like they're so they're engaged, right? No, they are. Yeah, no. Kaia Gerber engaged. I don't think so.

Cause she's also younger. She's 23. She doesn't like, she could be dating for a few years. Like Selena is 32, 33. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. They're not. I just, I just made that up. Oh my God.

I'm honestly glad she still has time to run. To run, yeah. I actually don't like him for her. And I'm clowning on him a lot, but I actually like him. The Carrie Diaries is great. He's fun to make fun of ever since that Elvis thing. But I don't like him for her.

I thought it was a cute moment, especially when he was having a moment with Elvis. But I think my actual disdain for him comes from the Vanessa Hudgens of it all. Like I think that was like so disgusting. Like I think he's the like the lowest of the low from that. And I think Kaia is like in my dreams, like slowly realizing like the man she fell in love with.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, and he's like older, he's very attractive. She fell in love with him at his peak. But the thing about him is like, you thought when Elvis came out, like Austin Butler is the next movie star, it's been a quiet on the Austin front. And now it's like, okay.

He never got back to work. When American Psycho comes out, like Austin Butler is the next movie star. He's like, he probably has a dark word of like Glenn Powell where he's just like throwing, that should be me. That's the difference. He takes himself so seriously. He would never do a Top Gun

because it's considered like low brow commercial. He would never do twisters. But Glenn Powell is over here understanding how America works and like the movies that Americans watch and like he's on his way to becoming the next Tom Cruise. You don't have to only do artsy films to be taken seriously as an actor. Yeah. I just feel like he keeps waiting for his big break. He keeps getting it. And then it just like, it didn't break. Yeah. You're talking about Austin. No, Glenn is well on his way.

Glenn is a working actor. You have to work. Between movies, I don't think he's on the couch with a bag of chips. No, definitely not, but Austin 1000% is. And then when he gets the role, he becomes toxically involved in undoing all those chips.

And he acts like he's the first person to have a job. He's like, babe, I can't. I'm seriously studying my papers or whatever actors do, I don't know. I have to read scripts tonight, babe. And it's like, babe, I can't. I'm like seriously studying my papers or whatever actors do, I don't know. I have to read scripts tonight, babe. And it's like, girl, we've all been reading scripts for years. You just got here.

Yeah, no, that's so the vibe. It's giving unemployed. Based on nothing, I'm telling you that's what's going on. One thousand rows up. Our fifth and final stories is to choose your adventure for Turdy. Would you rather hear reboot news or live action remake news?

Is there a third option? Sure, I could fill up a third option. No, I would rather hear reboot. I know, excuse me. I actually think the other one. The reboot news would be like more pertinent to you. Okay. Which is that Friday night. I'm also just checking page six. I actually think the reboot news would be like more pertinent to you. Okay. Which is that Friday night.

I'm also just checking page six. Making sure you know breaking news. Friday night lights reboot is in the works. 13 years after the hit shows finale aired. Oh, that's something. Friday night lights reboot is in the works at Peacock with Universal Television. So executive producer and show runner, Jason Caddems

and then writers, Peter Berg, who directed the 2004 film. So don't forget, it was a movie first and then the TV show. And that will be a show on Peacock. Following a devastating hurricane, a ragtag high school team and their damaged interim coach make an unlikely bid for a Texas high school state championship. Oh, it sounds like The Mighty Ducks, the stupid movie I just watched.

Becoming a beacon of light for their town. OK, I mean, what we need in this world is more shows like Friday Night Lights and knowing that the Friday Night Lights TV show that I loved actually was a reboot makes me, wait, I thought you said live action remake. That was the second choice. Oh, so you went with the reboot story.

Oh, okay. Because I felt like the subject matter was more dirty in interest. Do they have anyone from the original show like tapped? No. Because in real East Dillon, Jason Street would have lived in town and- Been the coach.

Become the coach. Yeah. Maybe that, this is all, this seems like very early stages. Like they probably just got the right- And Scott Porter is still working. Like he was available. He would be amazing for this seems like very early stages. Like they probably just got the right. And Scott Porter is still working. Like he was available. He would be amazing for this. He would be amazing.

And then I mean, as far as who would play the high schoolers, like I think we need fresh faces. I think we're ready. Fresh, fresh. This could be the next, what Friday night was. However, like I just want to let you guys know, it won't be. And like.

No, of course not. They're going to ruin the show and the legacy. The show is going to come out and like nothing will change. Like, well we're. I know, but they really do have an opportunity. They just need ruin the show and the legacy. The show is gonna come out and nothing will change. Well, I know, but they really do have an opportunity. They just need, now that I'm thinking about it, they just need Scott Porter, because the whole show, the heart and soul, was Kyle Chandler and how he loved them kids,

ain't it good to be the coach. And Scott Porter was that as Jason Street, and he totally could be that as Mr. Street, Coach Street. And then a fresh cast, fresh faces, people from all different walks of life and they're not going to do it. And if they are, it's going to be like a woke high school where like everybody's fighting over their pronouns and stuff. But like they should just do a regular ass reboot. They should. I'm just saying like even if they are going to reboot it, I feel like this happens all the time. Like it will not make, it's gonna come and go.

We're gonna forget that. Yeah, a thousand percent. We're never gonna watch this just because that's how things go. Now I hope that it's the next big, it's the next Friday night lights. I just know that it won't be. But we'll always have the original show.

And I actually rewatched it like somewhat recently. I'm definitely due for a rewatch, but the first time I ever watched that, I watched it. Do you remember when portable DVD players were like the most important thing in our lives? Like at camp. I watched Friday Night Lights in like the summer of 2000 and waitresses 09.

I was, yeah, in 09. On a portable DVD player with the DVDs, like somebody had it in a CD case where like we would all pass around the different. And I actually don't know if I've ever been happier in my life, like being at camp, watching that show, like it just, like that's the best time of my life. Yes, cause I loved camp.

Like I didn't watch the show when it was on, but I think like about six years ago when like Zach and I were dating, we watched the show together and it was so, so good. And I actually watched it at the same time that, spoiler alert for the show Nashville, okay? I watched it the same time that they killed Raina James on Nashville.

And I never had to mourn her because I just went back. I just switched the input on my TV and watched Friday Night Lights and there she was. And I really feel like I usurped the grief. Friday Night Lights was actually also like a breeding ground of talent development. Connie Britton, Jesse Plemons, Minka Kelly, so many stars, Kyle Chandler of course.

So many stars came from that show. Was she on that show? Or was it Montreal? No, I think she was. She was on Montreal, you're right. No, honestly, I feel like we've done this before. I feel like she was on both. Like, get your girl. I actually don't think she was she was she was on Montreal. You're right. No, honestly, I feel like we've done this before I feel like she was on both like you get your girl I actually don't think she was on a Kramer Friday night lights character

She played noelle Davenport in the following episodes. Okay three so So it's actually just a fluke that she was on it. You don't really remember her. It's so true It's just a happy coincidence. Yeah, no, oh, who's, oh, that's Minka. And just Lila Garrity, like it's the perfect show. Yeah, maybe she'll be in it. Remember when we were saying like Desperate Housewives and what are the, like the perfect television shows?

Yes. What was the other one we were saying? Did we say that? I think I did. Friday Night Lights is on that list too. Yeah. And I don't remember like the late seasons ever really ruining it.

Like I think it ended. No, it didn't go on forever. It actually ended early and like it ended on its own terms. It ended with dignity. I think it was six seasons. Good times. Oh, I mean, I can't believe I haven't talked about this whole thing without talking

about my boyfriend, Tyler Kitch. Oh my gosh, Waco. He is, he's the show. He's the show. Texas forever. So, there's something to look forward to. Potential. And I'll just give you guys a teaser of what could have been, it's a tangled live action remake. Oh, you know what I actually heard about that?

And I'm curious to see who they cast as Rapunzel. Yeah, hopefully like a big star studded affair. And it's being directed. Wow, Nalofi today. Nalofi and it's being directed by the director of Greatest Showman, which huge for the community. So that I actually, if I had to place a bet on what would be more successful,

I'm going tangled live action remake. Okay, I am starting to realize why yesterday I had to run off the show to poop and today I also do it because of the coffee. The coffee and the coffee. It's the coffee. Coffees plus Nalafi equals bad news. Duty emoji. You guys thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday to Friday and YouTube so for watching us on YouTube please don't forget to subscribe and leave a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast we found so Spotify, Twitter, Popper, AI, Articast, Parks, all the places we visit

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