The Toast - Buck Convention: Wednesday, October 26th, 2022

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Rihanna Returns With New Song for Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Vulture) (15:52)  James Corden Says His Wife's Food Allergy Was Reason for His 'Rude Comment' at NYC Restaurant (PEOPLE) (23:20) Taylor Swift Accused of Fatphobia, Prompting Others to Defend Her Message (Newsweek) (29:36) 'Bachelor in Paradise' alums Caelynn Miller-Keyes, Dean Unglert are engaged (Page Six) (40:33) Crying makeup is Gen Z's latest beauty trend: 'I feel so pretty after sobbing' (NY Post) (44:30) Tell Me Lies Recap (54:03) Dear Toasters Advice Segment (1:01:30) The Toast with Jackie  (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry  (@girlwithnojob)  NLOG Tickets Merch The Toast Patreon Girl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Wednesday. It is hump day. So very appropriately, we are sitting here with Bryce, Strice, Jax, and Claude. The four of us are going to be humping all throughout the day. I hope your day looks something like that, honestly. The four of us are back together. It's been, I can't even tell you how long since both Bryce and Strice were on camera with the two of us, and the gang is back together. Nature is healed. Nature is healed. maybe that's a really good segue to one of the things we wanted to talk about at the beginning of today's episode healed healed come on jackie healed healed healed

healed i don't know yourselves yourselves oh wow we're gonna just jump right well i thought it was like a mutual like nod it was it was a far-reaching segue but i appreciate the segue i actually don't think it was far-reaching at all like i was shocked you didn't know what i was talking about yeah sorry i really didn't know we will address that let's just finish with our introduction before we get into the controversy. Yeah. Another day, another controversy. Happy Wednesday.

We have a great show for you today because we have dear toasters. As stated, we will be addressing Unburden Yourselves. We will. We will be addressing the controversy. Three, we watched the Tell Me Lies season finale last night. And like, I'm so glad that we did because I have so many thoughts. Yeah. I can't believe that it's not a limited series.

I am like annoyed. And that we're waiting for season two to be greenlit. Yeah. It's giving society. Yeah. I think I actually have to read the book because. Because you're so curious. Because I'm so curious.

Four, we dropped an amazing Patreon episode last night. So late last night, Claude and I came to the studio. We snuck on up here with our little Halloween candy. It was toast after dark. It was toast after dark. Even the lighting's different. There were no makeup. It was frightening.

We posted video and audio. And it was the part two of the general Q&A, which was questions for me. And it was just a grand old time. And if you're not already a patron, let me tell you what we have on offer for you this month. Plus everything else we've done over the last four years, which includes our highlights like the great chili cook-off, Jackie learning how to drive the vlog, the mukbang vlog, like every time we took a trip, stagecoach Coachella, it's all there. Every podcast we've answered really every question. But this month we had Claudia interviewing me, which was last night. Last week I interviewed Claudia with all the questions that you guys have

for her we had our Taylor Swift cookies attempt which was great the first episode this month was I don't know was it studying for the permit for the permit test was it I think so we're getting Jackie ready to get her license like we're really

covering all of our bases on Patreon and if you are a Patreon member you also get access to the pre-sale for my shows, which today we launched two shows in New York that we're going to be filming for a special and a show in Delaware that only Patreon girlies get access to. So it's separately a show in Delaware and separately a show in Delaware. Yeah. The one in Delaware is not being taped. I was like trying to really find a way to announce all three shows without making it

seem like the one in Delaware was being taped. And no matter how many ways I typed it, like it was still confusing. It was still misleading. So let me just say right now, like Delaware is going to be amazing and it will not be recorded. But that's not a reason not to go. I couldn't agree more. Yeah. So there's really no reason that you shouldn't join Patreon.

It's just a great time for the patrons. Plus Claudia and I are going to bank some content while she's here. Some really fun episodes for the month of November. So yeah, patreon.com slash the toast. Now let's dive into the controversy. So we're going on quite a few Mondays where we have not done our, you know, signature segment, Unburden Yourselves. And a lot of people after this week's episode were like writing in the comments and on Facebook. There had been YouTube comments. Did I miss something? What happened to Unburden? And yes, you are not,

you haven't missed anything. Jackie and I haven't done it in a few weeks. At first it was because Mondays recently became like such long episodes for us. We had House of the Dragon recap and then like just the weekend recap and we would have been going on like two hour episodes. And actually our memory card really can only sustain a 90 minute episode. That is the longest we can do daily. And I think that's like, that's enough, you know? Yeah. Um, so that was part of the reason. And I think also Jackie and I were feeling like a little uninspired by the segment.

I feel like you were, cause you felt like it was very similar to dear toasters, but I, I like unburden yourselves. I don't think unburdening yourselves is, is over. I just think we went on hiatus because the last few Mondays were really jam packed. And then we didn't even realize we weren't doing it and neither of us missed it. But now that I'm seeing that there's so much fanfare for it, I guess this has been a really great learning moment because I didn't realize how much you guys loved it. And now with everyone shouting out for it, it makes me feel like I want to do it again. For me, fundamentally, like there is a fundamental issue with the segment in the sense that it

either really is too similar to Deer Toasters or we're just talking about poop, which is fun every couple of weeks. But like once a week, like a 20 minute segment on duty, like it's not that fun. That's not who we want to be. But we can curate better the ones that we choose. We just we also don't get great submissions like. Oh, not you blaming the audience. A lot of the submissions are asking for advice, which is Deer Toasters. Yeah. Or we just feel compelled get great submissions. Like, Oh, not you blaming the audience. No, a lot of the submissions are asking for advice,

which is dear toaster. Yeah. Or we just feel compelled to give advice, but I don't think we should give up on unburdening yourselves because it's so great. It's so fun to say, and people do need to unburden themselves. Like let's get back to what the original intent was,

which was to take that burden off of people who like have a anxiety and a pit after the weekend. Okay. Like feel free to fill up the inbox, unburden yourselves at gmail.com. Um, I'm not willing to let it go either, but I do think changes need to be made.

Okay. That's just my, my take on the situation. I don't disagree, but I appreciate the outpouring of fanfare and love and support for unburden yourselves. And now that house of the dragon is over. True. We do kind of have the Dragon is over. True.

We do kind of have the space for it. We do have. I think it's perfect timing. Yeah. Life is all about timing, you guys. Ain't that the truth? Ain't that the truth? Timing is everything.

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It's a big week here at the Morning Toast. Kind of just like muggle, muggle, muggle. We're also attempting to drop something else tomorrow that we, it was a really quick oh yeah it was a little special treat so keep your eyes peeled on our instagram hopefully we'll be able to announce it today and that we're able to do it in time for tomorrow it was like an idea that we had this week so yeah a little a little something for the mama it's a little something for the mamas and i'm really excited about that yeah forgot about that good call so again just like mogul mogul mogul like it's it's exhausting but somebody's gotta do it I mean look at these strice brethren they're exhausted they're exhausted I'm so glad

to be podcasting with them yet again we do have dear toasters today which really is like one of my favorite things to do just interesting to see what goes on in people's lives you know yeah what's my favorite I'm like nosy we don't have that many segments that's that was part of the reason why we birthed unburden yourselves yeah i guess one of my favorite my favorite actually my favorite it's not a segment um my favorite time of the show is the pre-fast five like just catching up with jackson claude um you know i used to tell everyone what i was reading and now i've been deeply humbled and silenced no we talked about on last night's patreon how i'm feeling about all of the commentary about yesterday's episode discourse and the book talk about all of the commentary about yesterday's episode.

The discourse. And the book talk, even though of course after the Patreon, then all the fans came out for me. But no, it definitely gave me something to think about. And we thought about it last night's episode. So I'm not gonna have the same conversation again. But that is my favorite segment.

Everything that goes down before the fast five. A favorite segment of mine is of course Kelly's Mindless News because it really felt like, it was just like errant thought I had one time about Kelly Ripa and then it like came to fruition. It turns out like I was right. You know, like and I one thing about me, I love being right.

It's honestly like better than anything. There's better than donuts. Like there's nothing better than being proved right. And actually it has been a while since we did Kelly's Mindless News because honestly I just got fatigued by Kelly. No, and we were adding like I just we were part of the problem. When did our episodes get so long? Okay we were just talking about this offline yesterday. I love it. I'm so here for it but I feel like we used to be really between like 45 minutes and an hour and now we're between an hour

and hour 20. Yeah. What's going on? I think it's because we've like expanded the pre-stories chit chat like making it about ourselves because at first I think people really used to tune into the show just to hear like two funny girls thoughts on other things. And now like those funny girls have become so beautiful and interesting. Like I'd actually like to hear about the funny girls themselves as well. And they can unburden themselves. Right. I do think that's like the Genesis, but yes, we are like averaging an hour and 15 minutes every single day which is like so psychotic yeah i think everybody i mean i know everyone loves it and we it's not even like we're trying it's really oh naturally crazy it's so naturally so today's show is going to be long

because we have the fast five we have tell me lies recap and we have dear toasters and we have the strice and brother so you never know when we're going to just be distracted and overcome with Strice love. With emotion. When you say Tell Me Lies, what do you think? I think of because of you, because you always sing, tell me lies, tell me. Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.

I think it's a Fleetwood Mac song that I only know from the Fleetwood Mac episode of Glee. I think of it all the time because of you. I'm not thinking of a song that I know. I think of this tune my sister sings. Are there like songs? I mean, I know there is for me, but like what songs come to mind that you only know because of Glee that are like very well-known classic songs, but you hadn't heard of them because you were a child? Uh, Bust Your Windows. Was that an original? No. From Glade? No. I don't think so. It was like early episodes. I bust the windows out your car. Mine is, that always comes to mind is, oh, right beside that red firelight.

Yep. Oh, you gonna let it all hang out that bottom, girls. You make the rocking world go round. Very appropriate. Our fifth and final story today is a lot of chit chat about the fat phobia Taylor Swift is being, in my opinion, wrongfully accused of. It's actually not the fifth and final. I think it's the second or third.

Fifth and final is a TikTok trend that I want to get your thoughts on that I think will spark interesting debate about Gen Z. Your favorite. Which is my favorite. I wonder how Gen z feels about me i i think that like if they saw you they'd be obsessed with you and then if they listen to the podcast they would hate you no i that's what i mean i don't care how they feel about my looks like even though it's really nice to you no i think they would be like oh my god she's sickening

like unique the thing about um gen z is like they really are looking for like not like your standard step your typical standard of beauty like you really are looking for like not like your standard, your typical standard of beauty. Like you really are like unique looking. Like you have porcelain skin, red hair. I think they would love you and you're very naturally beautiful. You don't wear a ton of makeup. Like I think they, like from an aesthetic POV, Gen Z would love you.

And then like when they get on here and here, you're talking about like how homework is good for them. Like they would hate you. You think that they wouldn't like my POV? No, like not at all. Really? And I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think like you like kind of look down on Gen Z and think they're dumb.

No, I do, I actually, not at all. Okay. My perception of Gen Z is very high. Like I feel like Gen Z might save us all. That's how I feel. Okay, well, maybe now that you've said that, they'll change their minds. Because I mean, I hadn't really thought about Gen Z and I feel like now they just are lumped in with TikTok but like

I don't think they're one in the same they're similar overlap the Venn diagram is definitely crisscrossing but I remember I once read an article about Gen Z like a few years ago when people are still trying to define them and the references they shared were you know Modern Family the the sister, not. Ariel Winter. Ariel Winter, like her character. She's very like precocious and smart. Yeah.

Level headed. She thinks her millennial sister is like a big loser. And like that was an example they gave of Gen Z. They gave a few like pop culture references. And I was like, Gen Z. There's hope yet. I like what I see in Gen Z. Okay.

Well, maybe we'll clip this and put it on TikTok so that the kids can see that you have high respect for them. And they always like our TikToks. That's true. That's true. That's so true. So I'm feeling good about Gen Z. Oh wow okay well that settles that then. But not this trend that I saw. Okay well we'll talk about it in the past five that we can get into whenever you're ready. Oh you know really quick I just had like a list of things let me just make sure I check because we said right before we needed to talk about something.

Got it. We got them all. Yep, five out of five. You're done. I feel like I'm forgetting something, but I guess not. Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. Yeah, I'll get into the fast time

just because I need to recap tell me lies. Okay. So without further a did it, did it do. Where are you bruno loves his auntie bruno loves his auntie so much he's gonna be forlorn when you leave honestly like he's gonna be more upset about your departure than no leo's yeah of course but like no leo is his lady love girlfriend for sure but like i literally like make sure he gets eat fed walk like i'm i'm literally his caretaker i'm like i'm already sad

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You're welcome. First story, Rihanna has returned to music with a new song for Black Panther Wakanda Forever. One week after rumors started floating that Rihanna would be coming back to music, it has been officially confirmed. Marvel Studios announced that a new song from Rihanna would be coming back to music. It has been officially confirmed. Marvel Studios announced that a new song from Rihanna would be out this Friday as part of the Black Panther Wakanda Forever soundtrack. The tweet simply included the looking eyes emoji

and the video was simply an R with October 28, 2022. This is obviously very exciting for everyone who's like obsessed with Rihanna's music. I love Rihanna's music. I actually think her last album, Anti, which was 400 years ago, is like truly a work of art that just gets better and better and better.

However, I have not been waiting with bated breath for Rihanna's music. And I feel like I've said this before. Like I love the mogul era that she's in, like Savage X Fenty, Fenty Beauty. Like I feel satiated by Rihanna. So of course I'm gonna listen and enjoy, but I'm not like, finally.

Like I feel like a lot of people are. I've been okay without music from Rihanna. of course I'm gonna listen and enjoy but I'm not like finally like I feel like a lot of people are I've been okay without music from Rihanna I've been okay just because it's not what she wants to be doing so I'm gonna be okay with that but I think there is something missing in culture the landscape and that's Rihanna and so if she wants to come back to us I think it's best for everyone on the count of three let's say the best Rihanna song okay oh okay there's so many I have to go to Spotify okay never mind I did then I just wanted to say then you just wanted to say yours okay bitch better have my money oh so because you know what a bitch better have my fucking money so good and like the way she just like like obviously when I say it it doesn't like feel like,

like cool. But like when Rihanna says it, it's like, no, no, seriously, bitch better have her fucking money. You know? Yeah.

Like I'm like, if I'm that bitch, I'm quaking, you know? Cause she's so sickening. Sickening. I'm, I'm really thrilled.

That really is such a good song. Was that, that was like part of like, in my opinion, her musical peak, which was her most recent album. Was that song on the most recent album? Or was it just a single, like a DJ Khal Khaled moment I remember it as a single but maybe

it was part of a larger album I feel like it was part of the album because she was like doing a lot of music videos at the time oh my god actually I feel like her musical peak not like I feel like she there is no peak like she's kept ascending she's still at the top and like we're waiting to hear what's next you know it's like a really close runner up to the best song. For five seconds from wilding. Honestly, that song was a, Oh,

it's Kanye. Okay. I'm still gonna listen to it. That song is so good. Oh, how do you feel about still listening to his music? To be honest, I really haven't been like into Kanye's music for like quite some time so like I'm not like honestly though the only album from Kanye that like I

I love is the life of Pablo um I know like his work before that is some of like the most critically acclaimed honestly I don't really fuck with it and then the work after like the Christ stuff like I was into for like a second but like honestly like I never listened to it I don't think I ever listened to like that album in full the only album like I really loved was T-Lop The Life of Pablo but even then like I don't really listen to it that much every now and then I'll remember the song Ultra Light Beam and then I'll sing it so like I think I'll still do that yeah it obviously won't hit the same but four or five seconds um is such a sickening unbelievable song I think it's one of the best songs released in our generation like it's so different you know and the music video

was gorgeous I will be still fucking with that song I'm sorry and you know what I can yeah you can you can do whatever you want honestly like me being forced to stop doing the things I enjoy that's anti-semitic yeah no and then you're just suffering more right no and like people suffer haven't my people suffered enough but the problem for me is like on principle um I sure if I wanted to listen to a Kanye song, I would listen to a Kanye song. But it would just like remind me. But you can't really enjoy it. And I would just be like thinking about like global anti-Semitism.

I just feel sick to my stomach. No. I'm just trying to enjoy my workout or something, you know? Yeah. I'm not trying to. That's how I feel about like that. So it's not necessarily like the crime itself. It's like I've never been this music.

It's the feeling and like the reminder of the issues. And it's like I don't want to be reminded of the issues right now. When I'm just trying to bop to this bop. When I'm just trying to glam myself for a fun night out. Okay, like, but you know what? For me, like the best song of the part of the four or five seconds, like, is Rihanna's part. So like, maybe I just won't listen to the first verse, which is Kanye. Woke up being optimistic.

But if you're cutting it out, then you're like reminding yourself again. You know? I just feel like you don't want to find a solution like for real like you're yucking all of my ums am I yeah I said do whatever you want no you said well here's the problem with you still listening to it here's the problem with you cutting it out I didn't say the problem with you still listening to it I said the problem for me no and by the way I'd probably have the same experience but like whatever yeah but I could still I'm still woman enough to admit that four or five seconds is the greatest

song of all time. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I don't know about like of all time of the last 15 years, the climbs out there, but, uh,

Oh, sorry. Toast is out there. Silly me, but yeah, no, I don't, it's,

it's good stuff. Anyways, what was the story? Rihanna Friday. Oh yeah. Okay. Friday. But I just want to say,

I'm sure the song will be amazing and it also has to be it has to be there's so much pressure um it's just been really like a sickening kind of week for music we've got Rihanna we've got Taylor Meghan Trainor's new album came out um so did Carly Rae Jepsen's and they both came out the same night as Taylor Swift so it just kind of sucks like two pop girls who I think are both like super underrated um Meghan Trainor's in like this comeback era and it's like mostly from TikTok and the music I was telling you about this when we were in your kitchen the music she's been releasing is so fire it's so good she's really like a very talented songwriter she is and I love this comeback era for her and like I do wish she chose a different date because we'd all be talking about her album more yeah and then carly ray jepsen there's actually like

the what do they call themselves i think they i saw i might be wrong about this i saw something on tiktok that the carly ray jepsen vans call themselves ray r-a-e racists no like maybe it was one person making a joke but is that what the fandom calls themselves i thought it was extremely toxic fandom name okay what does carly ray jepsen call her fans gypsies okay well somebody called themselves a ray cyst which i thought was very unique however she also released her album and there's like a huge movement like to get Carly Rae Jepsen the respect she so rightly deserves and she was overshadowed

overshadowed by Taylor Swift but she has a song going viral and I'm really happy for her what happened was we reached the moon but lost in. I think we got there all too soon. I'm coming back for you, baby. I'm coming back for you. And now people are really kind of opening themselves up to the world of Carly Ray. Great. I'm happy for them,

but like, welcome to 2012. Right? Like if you, um, and you missed her previous albums, which were fire flame. So back it up,

listen to those. Cut to the Feeling, like, is one of the best songs of all time. Yeah. No, but even her first album. All those songs are amazing. Yeah. Is that a really, really, really, really, really. No, that's her second album, and that song's annoying. Beyond.

Yeah. It's always the annoying ones. That go viral. Yeah. Hello, Call Me Maybe. No, that's actually a really good song, sonically. Sonically. It became annoying because everyone kept playing it but even if you heard it today like you couldn't help but tap your foot yeah um but i'm also not someone who's like it's like i knew you were trouble that's like what yeah yeah that's like sonically a good song but like if i

hear it i have to jump off a bridge you know yeah are you ready for our next story i really am james corden has addressed balthazar gate on his show saying his wife's food allergy was the reason for his rude comment at the new york city restaurant so she's allergic to yellows of eggs whites of eggs but not the yellows but not the yellows in his monologue sure dreams uh on the late late show he alleged that his wife was given food she was allergic to and he recounted the series of events. He said, quote, so we sit down, we ordered, and my wife explained that she has a serious food allergy.

So when everybody's meals came, my wife was given the food that she was allergic to, but she hadn't taken a bite of it or anything. No worries. We sent it back. All was good. When it came back wrong more than once, he said, quote, in the heat of the moment, I made a sarcastic, rude comment about cooking it myself. It is is a comment I deeply regret I understand the difficulties of being a server I work shifts at restaurants for years I have such respect and I value anyone that does such a job

and the team at that restaurant are so great that's why I love it there he thought the matter was over after the staff brought out champagne as an apology he said I've been walking around thinking that I hadn't done anything wrong right but the truth is i made a rude comment and it was wrong it was an unnecessary comment it was ungracious to the server it's also an unnecessary comment coming from like a different like he's in the position of power not only because he's the customer but because he's like deeply famous um and one thing about me is like in the last week i've become extremely untrustworthy of James Corden. Like, I'm just like not buying anything he says.

Really? I feel like that most previous interview he did where he was like really dismissive of the whole thing. But now he's addressing it like he's been a little all over the place. And I just feel like we don't know the real James Corden. OK, yes. But what part of this do you think he's lying about? Because if he tells anything untrue, you know, Keith McNally is going to take to Instagram.

I want a doctor to tell me if it's possible to be allergic to yolk, to be allergic to egg white, but not yolk. Google doesn't count. So no, no, no. I saw like it is possible.

And that, and, and that's why for some reason, um, some people can't get certain vaccines. There's something about like this egg allergy. Oh, okay. Maybe it is.

I think it's a real thing. Can you be allergic to egg white only? Allergy to egg whites is most common, even though both yolks and whites can contain proteins that cause allergies. Allergy to egg whites is most common. Okay. Well, that's that. I don't think at this point,

and he's finally addressing it, I don't think at this state at this point and he's finally addressing it I don't think he would tell a lie okay but also like he might put on a mask I think that this is the situation where it's like my truth versus your truth because maybe that is how James Corden saw it and like I can imagine like him thinking he made like a like a offhand remark was actually really fucking rude yeah no i think some people have no self-awareness doesn't even realize like he's james cord and this person is like there's a power imbalance and i could see how he like said something snarky that came off much ruder than he intended and now we're in this situation i but i like i think that this version of events

like really genuinely might be might be his truth but what what about what he's saying doesn't line up with what keith said the sequence of events are the same but like how he perceived what he said and how he acted i imagine it was much worse you think but the But the comment, no matter how you, whatever. Because celebrities just in general tend to be out of touch. And I feel like now we've kind of gotten confirmation. Like James Corden's like kind of a dick. Yes, yes, yes. But just, I mean, you want to talk about this specific incident.

Because like literally, low key, this whole thing is like ruining his life. No, it's not. No, like, and I mean, people already disliked him. So I think like they're happy to have a reason now. Yeah. I mean, people already disliked him. So I think like they're happy to continue now. Yeah.

But the comment devoid of tone, like because it could have been said in one way or another was I should just go and cook the food myself. Yeah. And that's really what made him to keep McNally the most abusive customer he's ever. Well, he could have. Well, that's the thing. It's like, did he say, man, I guess I should just cook this myself or I should bloody get in the kitchen and cook this myself or I should bloody get in the kitchen and cook this myself.

Right. You know, like tone, intonation, like it's important. And I could just see him being like rude about it. Like, and I don't think that like Keith McNally would just make some shit up, even though genuinely I know nothing about him. Right. Yeah. No.

The thing is, the thing for me, like I'm just basing this off of like how I can see the interaction going and like I could see him being rude. Yeah. No, I'm just basing this off of how I can see the interaction going. And I could see him being rude. Yeah. No, I'm sure that he was not kind. And he said it wasn't nice. And he is sorry. Cool.

It's just really crazy that this has become a worldwide story. When you boil it down to one comment, I should go and cook it myself. One comment that we know of. But Keith would tell us if there were others. No like at different restaurants. Oh right right right. No but this story in particular is about that I should go and cook it myself. No I just think like overall it's a part of the story

where it's like we're peeling back the layers of James Corden. Yeah well that's a separate story. Yeah. But I just feel like this. James Corden like from here on out like really needs to act right because everyone's going to be looking for like a situation to expose him because we feel like. He's about to be the nicest man in Hollywood. Right.

Because we feel like there's something off and we need to get proof and like people are going to be looking for that proof. So he has to give people nothing. He needs to be the kindest, nicest, most generous and gracious man in all of Los Angeles. And he shouldn't leave his house. Never. No. Stay inside, James.

Yeah. He's on thin ice. Truly. no stay inside james yeah he's on thin ice truly so i guess that's the end of balthazar gate for james corden now that he's addressed it yeah you he had to say something because if he didn't it would really be like oh he just is like that yeah so now i guess we've been given but you still think he's like that i've been given pause i'm like let me see if something else happens you know to fully confirm right because someone can have a bad moment and I just want to say I'm not really one of these people who like despises James

Corden no like the internet really hates him they think every time he enters a project he ruins the project I actually like him I think that like his show is the best of all the crap that's on it late night I think he's actually funny and has good relationships with celebrities and like is a good interviewer in the segments I'm'm sure they're not his ideas, but I think his show is good. I don't really even dislike him. Yeah. So I'm not just saying that because I hate him

and he's ruining the Wicked movie, you know? I agree. I agree. Are you ready for our next story? Yes, ma'am. A little more controversy. Taylor Swift has been accused of fat phobia prompting others to defend her message.

So Taylor on Friday released a video for Antihero, the first single off her album Midnights, and the video quickly stirred controversy due to a scene in which the singer stands on a scale that reads fat. Many people on social media have accused the singer of fat phobia. The backlash has also resulted in other voices coming to her defense, many of whom cite Swift's past struggles with an eating disorder. So in the video, she steps on the scale and it's let me just paint a picture for those who don't know the concept of the music video is like the things that keep you up at night and clearly a big part of Taylor's you know anxiety and things that keep her up at night is her weight her physical appearance so there's kind

of like this green monster on her shoulder who makes her get on the scale she looks down at the scale and instead of saying a number it just says fat and then like the green monster goes like tsk tsk tsk right so that's the concept of the video yeah and so people are saying um like oh taylor's worst fear keeping her up at night is being fat but i'm fat is fat bad um here and then also people saying shot uh this is dr charlotte ord shocking that no one involved in the making of taylor swift's music video realized how harmful it is to use the word fat on a weighing scale to illustrate her battle with an ed just thinking about the impact on her young fans of all body sizes hashtag fat phobia okay but like isn't it is possible to appreciate taylor swift in midnight as an artist and call her out on her blatant fat phobia taylor swift

should have done better because even if it is relatable and an intrusive thought, it is damaging and fat phobic. Listen to fat people when they tell you it is. Okay, well, I'm a fat person and everyone's going to listen to me, okay? I literally don't care. Like, I just don't care. And this is not because I'm a Taylor apologist. I feel like I'm actually, when it comes to Taylor, like, I feel like I'm pretty rational. Am I not? Like, if this, if this, if I saw something that, like, rubbed me the wrong way, like, I probably would say something about it I'd be like low-key and like I'd like tiptoe around it but I would say it I saw this I didn't even think anything of it and then there's like backlash I'm like oh my god what now and I'm looking into it

and I really haven't seen an argument compelling enough for me to believe that like she did anything wrong um I think it's not like the whole point of an eating disorder like anorexia or bulimia it's like you're so fucking fearful of being overweight that you take these extreme measures that like fuck with your mental health and your physical health just so you can be anything but fat and this music video is about taylor it's about taylor's life taylor's thoughts taylor's experience and that is her experience so you putting your shit on that is like irrelevant in my opinion i agree i like it wouldn't have ever crossed my mind that this would be an issue for people though now seeing you know everybody's hot takes um i'm not surprised yeah and i want to say

something that's like deeply problematic and honestly honestly, like you, you could call me fat phobic after I say that. I love that for you. But I am a person who has been fat. I've been thin not in a long time, but I've been there. Um, so I'm not unfamiliar with the territory that comes with weight and what it does to your health, physical, mental. And I just, I think it's worth saying, and like, I don't know if I'm a part of the problem like I don't want to be fat like I don't like the way I look I don't like the way I feel I don't like the way it limits my mobility my ability to run around and play with rolled like I think I find it very limiting and I personally don't want to be fat so I can relate to that sentiment is that crazy

not crazy at all I think that's very rational. I think that's something that like, and I'm not saying that being fat is bad, but personally I don't want to be fat. Yeah, no, but I don't think that's like a personally to you thing, you know, like I don't think what you're saying is,

is so crazy. I think there are obvious downsides like, and, and, and health implications. I think that there are people who it's not just about like how you look it's it's but I think this is like a a for me it's a lot about how I look if I'm being honest like okay it just is um I think like in the fat community there's like two

ways of thinking I think there are people like who are fat and like are learning to live with it even though they don't want to be because they're just limited in their ability to lose weight, whether it's whatever reason. And then there are people who are confident in that and, and are healthy with it and like cool with it. And I'm really happy for those people. Like I really am, but like, that's, that shouldn't be required of, of all fat people. Like I don't want to be fat. And so I think it's great that there's a part of the community that empowers themselves to love themselves. But I can't and I don't want to. So like, I think that's valid too.

Yeah, I really do. But I think it's important to respect each other's thoughts. Like I respect you want to stay how you are and you love it. Love that for you, girly. Keep going. You're stunning. Someone else, you hate the way you look and it's because of your weight and you want to lose weight.

You know what? I love that too, girly. I'll go to the gym with you you know what I mean like I just think both uh POVs are valid and I think the one about like not liking being fat is often criticized and like those people are silenced and like considered called fat phobic for sure so I think what critics would say is like well what how like Taylor's not fat she's not been fat so is she allowed to have her feet like well taylor is a human being so she's allowed to feel right um taylor's also a human being there's in general everyone like when we're talking about a certain group a certain issue or a certain group will say well you're not this so you're supposed to listen to

the person from that group. Yeah. Well, Taylor has been very open about her years long struggle with an eating disorder. I mean, you can look at pictures of her and see there was a really long period where she was clearly underweight and really unhealthy. And that's not a physical thing. That's like a mental thing. So just because she's not fat enough for you doesn't mean she's not entitled to like body dysmorphia or body thoughts about her own body. Right. Just because it's not valid to you doesn't mean it's not entitled to like body dysmorphia or body thoughts about her own body. Right. Just because it's not valid to you doesn't mean it's not valid to her. And just

because you think your situation is worse or more relevant doesn't mean that this human being going through an experience doesn't exist and isn't valid. Like, I don't agree with that at all. Yeah. I don't. Oh, and keep in mind, she's also like a woman in the media. So she has 10 times more fucked up problems about her body than we do. Cause we don't get papazzi and called you know pregnant on the internet you know yeah well some of us do but you know what i mean like she's still a human being like she still is valid in her life experience and her thoughts and just because you don't see how it could be because if that was me i wouldn't have if i was taylor wouldn't have a single body probably be walking around naked it's still it's still invalidating her experience that's fucking rude like it's rude so i guess that's my thoughts i appreciate

you said the women of the view were defending taylor do you know what they said i was just curious because um i feel like they would have been like pile on yeah for sure i'll pull up what they said they're just curious overall message they said that the critics missed the point so they came to her defense with for engaging with deeply personal body image issues sunny said they missed the point for someone who's an artist she gets to have agency over her artistry she was describing a personal experience and quite frankly it's a personal experience a lot of women experience no matter what they look like by the way no matter how much they weigh yeah i've experienced it and men you get on the scale and you're perfectly normal weight and all

you see is fat all you see is oh my gosh i'm five pounds heavier than i should be yeah i'm just not gonna get all bent out of shape over this and i like i think also and this is a i think a problem in pop culture but specifically like in the swifty fandom um the stock we put in in other people like i saw and I was the reason why it reminded me that we should talk about this because I was just scrolling TikTok and I'm very much on the Swift side of TikTok and somebody posted that the music video that she the version she had uploaded to not YouTube but like another platform had this part taken out like she's obviously in the process of taking it out um and someone was like I'm so glad she did this like it's ruined

my week I was so disappointed I've been crying all week. And it's like, well, that's another problem. Like really as human beings, like we need to do less when it comes to like the people that we follow and engage in our fans of. And like, I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan. And like, if she said something that I really hated and disagreed with, like, I don't think I would for a week be upset and be crying about it. Like I would be annoyed for and I'd love to talk about on the podcast but I wouldn't I think we all collectively like we need to calm down and stop putting so much stake in other people it's really not healthy like imagine if the stakes are like and the energy like we put into Taylor like we put into ourselves too like it's so toxic this way of like or people that we actually know right or

like our family like your local heroes what about a teacher you know yeah no I just think like in general the amount of energy and like focus and attention and emotions like fans put into their favorite celebrities that like if and when that favorite celebrity does something that they don't necessarily love the way it destroys them like that's really unhealthy it really is not normal and I feel like that's a huge takeaway from this whole thing for me yeah yeah agreed agreed I think facts were spoken yeah I just feel like we've gotten to a point where like sorry no I'm just my conclusion because I don't want people to take anything I said out of context because I'm still thinking it through as I'm speaking it so I just I just want my major takeaway to be I feel

like we've gotten to a place where like if you're overweight by society's standards um you have to like accept it and I as a fat person don't accept that like I I feel like if you're overweight and you want to lose weight like that is valid and that's okay. And that's part of the reason why, like, since I've been losing weight, like I don't even really want to talk about it. Cause it's like, I'm like a betraying my fat people. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no. And every time we talk about it, I get like shit for it. And like, I'm not just not in the mood. So like, I'm still working through my thoughts. So I'm really not, I'm not trying to upset anyone. Cause I feel like this is like a triggering topic topic but I just think like everyone's experience is valid and wanting

to lose weight is a valid experience it is it's just as valid as everyone else and I feel like we got to a place where like you're like the villain if you want to lose weight yeah so that's my thoughts great thank you and I've always felt that way like at my highest lowest like I've never really I work on getting comfortable in my own skin because I love to be a confident girly, but no matter how much I weigh, because I could see people being this, well, you've recently lost weight. So that's why you're saying this. No, even at my highest and my happiest, I still wanted to lose weight.

Yeah. So this is not like a new thing. I just want to say, yeah, now I'm done. You can turn your iPad back on. You keep turning it on and turning it off. You know, I'm, I don't mind mind turning off the next story is far less interesting um just something that you said made me want to ask you a question but yeah now i've uh i've lost it i did say so many interesting things you did so i can imagine there's tons of questions okay next story the boys

are being so good by the way the strice brethren because they love the toast and they respect their mommies they do they respect women who work working women they do next up bachelor in paradise alums kaylin miller keys and dean ungler are engaged i'm really that was like the last i think like season of the bachelor i watched like that bachelor in paradise and it was really good and i was really happy for them and they like proved everyone wrong. And now they're engaged. I thought they would always,

they're kind of like alternative. Like they live off the grid. I thought they would be together forever and never like, you know, give it to the patriarchy and get married. But I love this for them. I love this for them. I feel like they are the perfect example.

Obviously you don't know what goes on behind closed doors of compromise, you know? And she really adapted to his lifestyle i feel like he changed a lot for her and you their relationship seems really beautiful and they built this life for themselves that's a blend of both of their agreed extremely different personalities she's like very social she's a pageant girl yeah right he lived off the grid on the van you know showering once a week and like she did it she got in the van and she went and then they came back and she went they went to parties

and that was for her like they really do you're right it's like a perfect blend of two different people making a life together and making it work right and i feel like even in their content and their jobs they're both influencers who are travel influencers and so they're still doing what he likes to do which is exploring and seeing the world but maybe you know in a hotel for her as opposed to the van right but they go on all these nature walks and it's really really nice so to see that they got engaged is really beautiful they haven't confirmed it yet but a source has confirmed to people that they are I think it's nice I'm really happy for them I'm really happy for them too I was really rooting for them on that show like I still get all bent out of shape when like Blake was sharing those text messages you know that was like an

iconic season of Bachelor in Paradise it really was one of the last good ones these two have come out on top you love to see it love wins it really does love wins so just a reminder of the good old days of Bachelor because I like when I see every morning like bachelor in paradise is on right now did you know four hours a week i just never thought you know the bachelor used to be like the center of our brand the center of our universe the center of the universe and i just never thought there would be a day where like it wasn't the most relevant show on tv and then almost just like overnight it became irrelevant yeah and i don't even know if I had to blame one season or one person. It wasn't even a moment in time. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I'm trying to think back. I feel like a lot of people stopped watching after Matt's season. With all the drama with Chris Harrison. Because people were watching for Chris. But I think even before that, they were flailing with Claire. It was so chaotic. Yeah. And now to me, the show might as well be off air.

Like that's how irrelevant it is. I wish I could see what the ratings are, but I don't understand ratings charts. And I think they do that intentionally so that we don't know what's popular. So that we don't know like that. Literally nobody watches cable. Yes.

They're suppressing information. Totally. Not to sound crazy or anything. No, no, no. Like it's, why can't you just tell me? Like it's intentionally confusing. In layman's's terms not 18 to 35 and 0.41 0.0197 right yeah um anyways happy for dean and kaylin yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story the final story theo i love you and i love the bruno boys and that's my crunchy theo so crunchy he has a nice belly for drums listen

he's like get the fuck off. No, it's not hurting him. My hands are very dainty and small. They're so gorgeous. I missed the final story song. Me too. Because I lost my triangle. Do you have your triangle here?

I have it somewhere in the house, but that went away with the remote episodes. You know, how could we have done it? We can't sing together. Yeah, so I guess we should make the most of our remaining episodes together, which we have quite a few of don't worry you guys um and we should keep singing keep singing i'll find the triangle our fifth and final story is gen z's latest beauty trend okay wait let me think because i like i'm up with the trends what is it crying

makeup this one's for the sad girls crying is now a makeup trend according to to TikTokers, looking like you're on the verge of tears actually makes some people look better and you don't have to get emotional to achieve the look. Last week, makeup artist Zoe Kim Keneally posted a now viral TikTok directed at the unstable girlies showing how to achieve a sorrowful look through makeup. In the clip, which has been viewed almost three million times, she creates a redness around her eyes, nose, and cheeks using powder and makes her eyes look teary with liquid glitter eyeshadow. To finish, she smudges the lips with a combination of color and gloss,

then adds some glittery gel on her face to imitate tears. Okay, can I say something? Like, not to be, like, so... I feel like this actually might be something, like, you would say, like, when you're being, like, you know... Contrarian. No, when you're being, like, the kid who tells the teacher, like like there's a pop quiz and this is just like a silly trend so like maybe I'm looking too much into it but I feel like isn't this like literally the definition of like

glamorizing like sadness and tragedy like I feel like shouldn't we be encouraging kids to like reach out for help and like to talk about their feelings and not like become obsessed with being sad like maybe I'm really looking too much into this you're not this is disturbing trend right like again being sad is not a state that we want to remain in no and it's like of course it's a part of life but like to glamorize the low parts of life and encourage young people to stay in that thing sadness whereas like shouldn't you know as older people and just like people who've lived shouldn't we be encouraging the young generation like yeah sadness is a part of life like there's nothing you can do to avoid it but like lean on your friends and family talk to someone go to a

counselor like it gets better right like this is like kind of weird no I'm I find it disturbing because it's not even just like if you're feeling sad do your makeup and feel better no no it's not even if you're feeling sad wear sad makeup and make looking sad is nice it's like well so happy people will now start to look sad and that's and that's just like the vibe and I feel like hopefully Gen Z turned off the podcast at this point because it got a little long but I feel like the zeitgeist is so sad like you you look at the music that kids are listening to and it's so depressing everything is depressing and everything is just like okay but in defense of Gen Z the music we were listening to not just gen z i because i think it's millennial music too we're all listening to the same music the music on the radio it's just like it's of course people experience sadness

you write about sad things but i feel like no one wants to find an exit strategy for their sadness like we're all wallowing here and I think that's a not a great thing I think we should strive for happiness yeah you know sadness can't be avoided sometimes but we don't need to stay here no I agree it's it's and when if all the music you're listening like if you're a um neutral if you're feeling neutrally not happy nor sad but all the music on the radio and and your playlist that your friends are sharing with you is all like this music that's bringing you down in turn you will be brought down you will be brought down yeah no I think like there's definitely and it's a generational thing I feel like the younger kids are just like leaning into

like sadness and sorrow and like blues um and it's. But then I also think about like when we were kids, like, you know, we were listening like, "'Tonight will be the night that I will fall for you." Like really emo, like we were like the emo music, how to save a life, like kill me. I mean, maybe, you know, older people were like, these kids are so emotional with the emo. But separately the kids are not okay.

And like you see statistics about how kids are doing right now and like especially with social media like suicide rates and like uh kids feeling alienated and like especially girls and what they've got especially with the pandemic and it's like we need to be helping them out of this that's really true culture like i forgot about that i forgot that they're growing up in the digital age i forgot like the reality of what's happening on the ground right The social dilemma. Those statistics about like young girls on social media, like comparing themselves.

And like, I think it was, what was it? It was like one in 10, like young teen. No, I'm not gonna botch this statistic, but it was like a suicide statistic. More affecting teenage girls because on social media, they're constantly comparing themselves to others. And it's like, the kids are not okay.

And it's because social media plays a huge part in like the destruction of their mental health. Right, and I feel like it's like the kids are not okay and it's because social media plays a huge part of and like the destruction of their mental health right and i feel like it should be the role of hollywood and and influences and influencers to help the kids yeah and like be positive influences yeah and there's no real positive influences for positivity there is jojo siwa and she's gen z she's gonna she might save the kids I don't know what the content she's putting out is she's just always dancing with bows in her hair and rainbows on her face and sparkling and looking cute and running around and only hanging out with like appropriate influencers she doesn't do anything nefarious nothing sexy like she is literally the

to a tee a good role model like actually i'm actually i think often about how i'm happy for the kids that they have jojo okay but we need more people of course also like older people and no offense to jojo like i love what you've built like i hope you're a chain smoking cigarettes on the nightly we need cooler people too i'm sorry actually jojo siwa is is becoming pretty cool she's not what you think she is I mean she's an adult she's in a relationship now she came out like she's much more grown she still dances around like a teenager with sparkles in her hair but um she's not the Jojo that you remember she's really evolved in the last two years I think she

turned 18 like she's more mature she's still not like overly mature she's still like an age appropriate role model for like teenagers and young prepubescent teens. But she's getting cooler. She wears Gucci like a lot. Well, then she wears it. She actually wears like a ton of Gucci. That's she's so rich, too.

Pretty cool. Look into Jojo. You're going to like what you see. OK, but we need more Jojo's, you know, yes, of course. Influence is overwhelmingly depressing. No, it's videos of themselves crying. And there's obviously like, there's nothing wrong with, you know, going through a bad period. Of course not. It's life. Depression, anxiety. But I, I feel like we should be helping the kids to come out of it. Right. Not to meet them where they are. To understand

that it's a part of life. It's not life. It's just a part of life. Yeah, no, I agree. So that's a weird trend for sure. Like I would, I raise my eyebrows at it as well. Yeah. Especially like,

I mean, I guess I look kind of cute when I cry. I look busted. You know how everyone like takes pictures of themselves when they cry. Which is such a weird thing. Like I definitely do it sometimes, but yeah.

It's such a weird thing. I definitely do it sometimes. For sure. Like I'm just curious what I look like. There's definitely like a psychological study on like why people do that yeah it's really weird yeah then like also like people video themselves like they just leave their phone in the corner when they're having like a true fucking mental breakdown and like that is like a little weird to me honestly like i just saw a video like of a she went viral and like people were reaching out like you're gonna to be fine. She had like a full blown mental breakdown.

Like her boyfriend was like, you know, calming her down, rubbing her back, like saying positive words to her. And they filmed it. Yeah. And they filmed it. And like at first the comments were like, oh my, that's so sweet. He's such a good boyfriend. And then like a couple of people.

And then it became like a thing. It's like, so you're having this like mental fucking breakdown. Like what possessed you to like prop your phone up and put the light on to like get a video? Like it was bizarre. Yeah. And then. And then it makes me feel like that wasn't a genuine breakdown.

Wait. And not even just prop your phone up up like maybe you want to watch it back one day like remember this dark place that you're in but then also posting it yeah no it's and also I just don't know where to draw the line between like being genuine and authentic and transparent on the internet but then also like being a little contrived being a little contrived and also like I do think that there are things that should be for yourself I agree with that completely um so those were the past five let's dive into our tv recap because I know you're dying to talk about tell me lies and it is brought to you by match the dating app do you let me ask you a question sorry do you do you I do do me match the dating app is pretty hot and bothered about this topic because understandably it's a juicy one. Match believes that the most important relationship you have

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What the fucking fuck? Yeah. I honestly, like, I don't want to be so negative, but like, I didn't really understand why the last maybe four episodes were big nothing burgers.

And then they just like shoved so much random shit in this one episode. It was like, it was like they ran out of time or something. Like it felt so weird. I know. And I felt like we were going to actually have all the answers in one episode because we were getting to a lot of places. Also, the biggest answer or thing that I got from this episode is Lucy is the villain of

the show. Yes. She starts as a protagonist, but I think that might be like the twist of the book is that she is the worst person on the show. And you think it's Steven because obviously he is. You think it's Pippa even. You think it's, yeah, Pippa's like, okay, I don't want to be friends with Pippa. Pippa is my queen and my absolute.

And justice for Pippa. And my God is Diana. Like Diana. Jackie was screaming when they walked down the stairs together. We watched together. Screaming. Every scene Diana came in last night, first at the coffee shop where she's just fucking slaughters them. Didn't even have to do anything just showed how fucking losery and right oh you're

missing out on your trip to india and then you're gonna do literally nothing all summer just so you could you know hope to hang out with your boyfriend who's mean to you oh cool loser loser population you no ambition like what oh and diana's going to work at a premium law office right and she would have helped steven get there and you're helping steven go nowhere even though in his heart of hearts steven wants to better himself right and obviously would have helped Stephen get there and you're helping Stephen go nowhere even though in his heart of hearts Stephen wants to better himself right and obviously Stephen is a psychopath I mean he literally killed Macy and left her there right and you called that I did he is a very bad person of course and so and I love that this that was the last thing Macy said to him she's like you're literally like a bad person right and so up until last night's episode

I thought he was the worst person on the show. But the worst person is Lucy because she masquerades as a good person. I think she thinks she's a good person. Whereas Steven, like, I think knows he's a psychopath. And it's like when the psychopath is scared of you. No, she's like a horrible friend too. And now I loved him. We finally went back to the wedding because we had like so much context. Oh, and she slept with Evan.

Like, oh, right. Goodbye. Good day. I mean, I'm glad that it didn't derail him still marrying Brie. I don't know if Brie knows, but it's really inconsequential at this point. Right. And she ruined Pippa's relationship. She ruined Wrigley's life and is lying about it.

I would never. Yeah. No, she's diabolical. Diabolical. She's a terrible friend. She's so like self-centered. and she's so not self-aware because like anyone who has an ounce of self-awareness would like really it's not really steven isn't really hiding the fact that he's not like he doesn't love her he's just afraid of her

now because he happened to have told her this information which was obviously the biggest regret of his life because he should be with diane and his life would be back on track and he wouldn't be getting an a minus and not getting an internship for the summer if it weren't for Lucy. Right, and if he doesn't have an internship the summer before his senior year, like getting a job after his senior year will be even harder. His prospects will be smaller

and he is already like starting from behind. Right, because he doesn't have like connections like everyone else. Yeah, she's just the worst. And like when they walked down the stairs, I was like, I was shook. I thought she was obviously getting a walk in and then hooking up. Me too. It was more of the worst. And like when they walked down the stairs, I was like, I was shook. I thought she was obviously getting them walking and then hooking up.

Me too. It was more of the same. But when he just unilaterally decided that he was fucking done with her. Right. Like I'm breaking up with you and I'm not even going to tell you. And in two fucking seconds,

Diana swoops in and steals her man's back. Like obviously I think Diana can do much better and I'm glad to see that in the five years later they're not together but whatever Diana wants I want okay I need a spin-off about Diana Diana summer Diana's life tell me Diana what does Diana think tell Diana lies I am obsessed with her okay but then um I agree I'm glad it wasn't her who ended up being engaged to Stephen five years later. However, I really wish that they had put Lydia in.

Lydia is Lucy's friend from home. And when Lucy called her to like hang out, I wish she had just like shown her face and been like, oh, sorry, I can't hang out. Because when she showed up at the pool and was engaged to Stephen, I'm like, who is this bitch? Yeah, I just they showed her in the in the previous. So she was top of she needed to be in the episode yeah i wonder how those two get together right so now it's like there will be a second season i i don't imagine it's not being greenlit like everyone is watching the show are you gonna read the book no wait

no i just like it as a tv show the book because it's apparently really different but i i literally need to know like i actually please no one spoil it for me but like i want someone to tell me what the fuck happened and by the way we were both under the impression that like drew died because at the wedding he was like yesterday was his brother's birthday right be cool don't be so hard on him um so we still don't have any clarity because kind of the whole season i was waiting for drew to like like overdose or something because he was so depressed. And I thought we knew already that he had died. Right. But maybe he's not. Maybe he's not. Maybe him and Wrigley just haven't spoken in six years. Maybe he's in a coma. Yesterday was the birthday. Right. And that's

hard for Wrigley. I feel so bad for Wrigley. Me too. He's a P-John. He's like annoying, but he's a P-John. Lucy and Steven ruined his life. And he's a good person. And really him and Pippa, even though she like wasn't into him as much as he was into her. They were a nice couple. They were. And even though I don't think she was in love with him like he was with her like she really cares about him. You know. Yeah. Yeah. And she didn't do the shit that she's being accused of. Like if he wanted to be mad at her for like hooking up with another girl. Sure. Like but she's not lying and I just need Lucy to go

down I need her to go down fast at the end of the day she's framed but I don't really think she goes down because if she was like she wouldn't be invited to this wedding right but we saw in episode one there is this weird tension between her and Pippa and when she pulls up to the wedding it's like she doesn't want to be there she didn't even bring her boyfriend like I do think she's on the outs with the group and of course in episode one I was like why are all these wenches being mean to Lucy? And it's like ew. No they're probably all like Lucy has to come. They weren't mean enough.

They weren't mean enough. She really is like so stunning. Like it's insane. She is. But you know her insides are for me. I know. Or like I hate that face now. I know.

Because I'm hating this woman. Yeah. Hating. No I'm hating as well. And like what she put her mom through. And it's like I think Stephen by the way I tell me one thing her mom did wrong that she had an affair wasn't an affair their dad was dying right it's not an affair honestly I'm sure if the dad knew he would have

been like yeah please like go no and she like keeps telling the story and everyone has such a big reaction I don't think it's that crazy I don't think it's that crazy no it definitely like would be weird it would take me a little while to like get over it but five years later I'm telling everybody about it in college like calm down yeah if that's your and she really is like so privileged I think that's why everyone resents her like she like that's your biggest trauma like my god you know what other people go through in their life right not to minimize anyone's trauma no but also she's so not driven like she's really just like wasting her time in school. Like, and just floundering through the whole experience.

Failing that class, not getting a summer job. Right. Not even going to India, which she talked about all year. Like it's so diametrically opposed to Diana, my queen. Diana, like ambitious queen. Ambitious queen. Diana's going to be on the Supreme court. Like.

I can't wait. So it was really good show. We do have to wait to see if they get greenlit so it'll be a while before we find out which i know is gonna be tough for you i like i don't know what to do i think we're reading the book i guess i'll get to the end but it will it will i won't enjoy it so i don't know what to do um do you want to do toasters or should we move move it to tomorrow? Because I feel like we have nothing to talk about tomorrow. Oh no, actually there's so much TV recap tomorrow. Beverly Hills is tonight. And Salt Lake City. All right, so let's do Dear Toasters.

I was just thinking we were already at an hour, but I guess we're going long today. All right, Dear Toasters, our advice segment where you can write in deartoasters at gmail.com. We will always keep your shit anonymous and you could write in about anything that you're going through.

So let's help our girlies out today. What do you say, Jax? I say yes. I'm still thinking about Tell Me Lies though. Like it's got me all messed up. Dear beautiful, stunning and smart queens. I'll make this short. My father in law got married last year to a woman who's only four years older than my husband and I. They not only got married at the same wedding venue as us three years later, but now they're expecting a baby the same month that my son was born. He'll just have turned one

by the time their baby is born and he will have an uncle that is younger than him i'm not sure if i should feel i'm not sure if i should feel offended that this that both my wedding venue and my baby baby's birth month has been taken for me help me sort this out um you're stretching a little bit on the birth month it's like you can't call a month no you can't and i did think at first it was like they are both due at the same time which would be complicated but you know what it's his life and sure the wedding venue thing i guess is like a little weird but really what does it matter yeah like if he's happy and she's you know makes him happy and they have a new family like let him live life yeah i mean is she a wench like do you like her on a personal level like or are you just looking for things

to dislike because with the birthday on its face it's like it's weird conventional yeah but is she a good girl is she a good mom is she a good aunt is she a good stepmom like yeah it sounds like you maybe just like don't like her and so you're looking for things like to call her out I'm like she took my birth month no or that like you think that it should be weird so you're insisting that it is you know but I think that it could be nice no same venue is definitely weird okay maybe it's a small town and there's one big bad venue in town. Right, maybe one that's the nicest. Yeah, one hall.

Yeah, that like is the nicest. It's possible, but that I could see, like that's not a reach, like it's bizarre. Yeah, it's a little bizarre, but like as far as him having a younger uncle, it treated like a cousin and it's- A young uncle? A yet uncle.

It's nice for the kids. Yeah, that's true. It's unconventional, but like at this point they're married. So you might as well just like lean in and start. It's like a friend, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you can make the most of it if you want to. And I would encourage you to do that because it's life.

Life is long. Yeah, and it's family. And it's family. And as long as no one's doing anything like, like particularly nefarious, it's just unconventional. But Buck Convention. Yeah.

You said Buck Convention? Buck. Buck Convention. Yes. Sounds like a conference that a lot of bucks go to. Buck Convention 2022. Coming to a town near you. That's funny. Hey, Jackson Jackson Claude I have the most

beautiful stunning and smart friend she's really unmatched however she has now been dating a loser for the past year and I need some advice on how or if I should say something she hid this relationship from me and her mom who she's super close with for almost four months and I think she did so because she knew we would disapprove of him right away and we did my first experience with him was watching him get into a bar fight in which he was the one in the wrong and he ended up breaking his hand so it wasn't just a quick little tiff it was quite a lot there were a few other awkward disappointing encounters after that but my husband encouraged me to give him one more chance because she's so important to me the last chance I gave him ended with him being a drunken immature asshole jumping

on top of a stranger's car going through a drive-thru with people in the car I wanted to die of embarrassment my best friend deserves the world. She is so much ahead of her and this guy's really dragging her down. It's hard for me to want to defend her in her relationship when people ask me why she's with him. I'm scared to say something to her and have her shut me out

because in the past she's gotten defensive of little comments I have made. But I can't keep watching her waste her time and reputation on him. What would you do? Like, it sounds like, like, there's just some people who like make bad choices when it comes to romance and like they don't want to be helped and it's like frustrating to be their

friend and want to help but I just feel like you have to let people like be miserable on their own do you know what I mean and learn for themselves like I always think you know issuing a warning won't just if I saw some guy I was dating get out of his car in a drive through, wasted, jump on someone's car. I would be so mortified because I'm a normal human being. Right. And some people just don't have that receptor. So it takes them a really bad, something really bad to happen for them to open their eyes. Like, okay. I think you say your piece and then you let her make her own choices. The only thing is it will inevitably affect your friendship because if it were me, like, I want to be around that person I don't want to be around that guy so I'll hang out with you we can get our nails done whatever but all these like couple-y things that

we would be doing we're not going to be doing yeah and yes your friendship will be affected but that is her choosing him over you which is her choice to make yeah and there might come a time where they're no longer together and she'll come crawling back and you're a good friend so you'll let her in um and then this like I I feel like with people like this, it's just a cycle. Like, yeah, they have to learn for themselves. There's no telling someone. I know. And it's like you, you then just become the villain by saying something, even though you're

coming from a genuine POV. Like you, you just become the villain because you're saying something like they don't want to hear. Because you're a naysayer. Right. I think that if you're genuinely concerned you should say something because you don't like yeah i think that's your responsibility as a friend to just like also it starts to plant in her head like my friends and my family don't like him maybe

that's something to think about as opposed to her thinking everything's fine like the next time she gets mad at him like now she also has in her brain like wow sarah doesn't approve of him or right so just let her know how you feel and then you've got to step away and And next time she gets mad at him, like now she also has in her brain, like, wow, Sarah doesn't approve of him or whatever this girl's name is. Right. So just let her know how you feel. And then you got to step away and let the chips fall where they may. Like at some point,

like we're not in college anymore. Like we're all growing up. Like you have a marriage. Like you need to take care of your marriage. You can't be like fixing her relationship. It's her life and it's her choices and it's her mistakes to make. Yeah.

All right. Third and final is a little bit lighter. Hello, Jackson Claude. Hope you're having a great week together. Let's get into it. I think we mistakes to make. Yeah. All right. Third and final. It's a little bit lighter. Hello, Jackson Claude. Hope you're having a great week together. Let's get into it. I think we are having a great week. Fabulous. We're going to the grocery store after this.

I can't wait. I'm getting married this summer to the most amazing man. He's got everything. Kind, humble. He's the most loving partner I could ask for. He also has an interesting mustache. Handlebars. Literal twists on the side of his face that he just thinks are hysterical.

Mostly, I just deal with this odd choice and cringe when strangers compliment it but i'm really not thrilled with the idea that he will that he will have this punch line on his face for our wedding i mean those pictures last forever any reasoning i used to try to convince him to shave them off is met with but i've never felt more me what is a girl supposed to say to that any advice on how to lovingly steer him in a different direction from a lucky in love except for the mustache? Maybe it's just me, but like I only care what I look like in the pictures. It's such a good point. Like I don't even look at the other persons in the pictures when it's like my wedding pictures. No, I mean, I've looked at my wedding pictures a thousand times. And if you had told me like Tom Selleck was standing next to me, I'd believe you because I've never looked at

them. Right. And it's like, and then eventually when they're hanging on the wall one day like only he's gonna have i have an idea photoshop no i have an idea is it to photoshop no i have an idea i have the idea okay it's such a long day what do you wake up at six to start taking photos once you guys are dressed do a ton of photos with the mustache then shave it before the wedding and take more pictures that's a good idea i don't think for him it's not that he wants photos with his mustache just that he wants to be a mustachioed man bring my idea up to him like for real sure that's a good idea so i it's hard to relate because i don't know how much this would bother me oh it would bother me like you know ben and his facial hair remember during the pandemic when he had a beard like yeah and and now I look back and I hated it then and I look back and I fucking hate it so then what would you do see the thing with me is like I'm a bitch naggy wife and like I get what I want and this winter break I want

Jordan so like I I would get my way because I'm a bull of on like you know what I do I take the razor and like cut a thing like a piece of the beard off so he'd have to to like I put him in a position where he looked more stupid with it on like take a pair of scissors when he's sleeping and cut off one of the handlebars he can't go one handlebar so I'll be like all right I guess I'll just shave the whole thing but is that a way to like start a marriage what if he like was like oh you're crazy well I don't think a way to start a marriage is a husband not listening to a wife so now we're even but it's his body his choice no it's not it's not no when you get married it's not your body only for the man though like my body my choice ben's body my choice okay but they're not married yet even when

we were engaged it was your choice it's my body but you didn't do anything about the beard in the pandemic i mean it was so hard to like scrounge up an ounce of like give a shit during the pandemic like about anything i didn't care about anything enough in the pandemic to do anything. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Like it was just it was giving low energy. I feel you.

OK, so I keep working it, you know, keep dropping hints. Yeah. You can be aggressive, as Claudia has said. I give two good ideas. Either chop one of the handlebars off or have him agree to shave it for the wedding. But you'll get a ton of pictures before with it on. Yeah, that's that's a good ideas. Either chop one of the handlebars off or have him agree to shave it for the wedding, but you'll get a ton of pictures before with it on. Yeah, that's a good compromise. My advice would be try and make peace with it.

You know? It's weird. Yeah, I mean, it's not for me. No, and it's like, but didn't he have it when you guys met? Yeah, what is the genesis of the mustache? That's what I want to know. Yeah.

Best of luck. Out of all these options do the one that feels most in tune with you i feel like the one shaving at the day of the wedding after pictures is probably the best one that's like that's called compromise this is a wedding like people have to compromise in a marriage yeah um so thank you to everyone who wrote in dear toasters at gmail.com every wednesday we will read your quandaries on air and we will do our best to help you and keep them anonymous of course so don't worry about that that is our show thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every monday through friday on youtube so if you're watching us on youtube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found so

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