The Toast - But They're Not Filming: Wednesday, April 8th, 2026

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show The Fast Five Things You Need to know. We'll start your day off, Swirley, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. It is Humpty. Don't forget to Humph someone you love and speaking of somebody that I love.

And speaking of somebody who's climbed so many mountains in her life, Humps. You think so? It's Jacqueline Foley. No. It's Jacqueline Foley. Wow. Thank you so much for that.

beautiful introduction Claudia really has me reminiscing you know we've done a lot of reminiscing we recorded a patreon yesterday it was like the newlywed game but for sisters and it was about our childhood to like see if we had whiteboards to see if we remember things the same way and so I've just been if I could buy a house on memory lane I've been living on memory lane you know I've been living on a prayer can I tell you why why because you parked in the shoot again worse something's so terrible is happening that you don't even know about. Okay. And if I, like, if I'm a little short with you today or I'm like a little on edge,

just like be patient with me, okay? Okay. Can I guess? You're never going to guess, but sure. Does it have to do with the mouse? No. Oh my God. Okay.

Things could be worse. Yeah. Thank you for putting things in perspective. No. No. Guess what Ben has. Hmm. Guess what Ben has.

Not COVID. Worse. Uh, the flu. Worse. Lice. Worse. Worse than lice? When I say it, you'll know that it's worse than lice.

Worms? I feel like you're missing like a big part of like my and Ben's history. I wasn't even doing the C-Sound. I was doing the neurovirus. I am in how. Oh, wow. Are you sure it's, Noro. So this morning, Ben was like, it's Noro. And I'm like, well, you ate a big bowl of hummus

before bed. So it's probably that. It's probably the hummus working its way. However, like, the more I see, the more I know, the more I learn, it's giving Noro. Now I'm like just convinced that I have it. I'm okay right now. Here's the thing. If you have to ask, you don't have it. No, maybe it's just like hitting me late. I'm sort of like waiting for the other shoe to drop, which is why I'm like, if my stomach drops in the middle of this episode, like if the episode ends early, just know that's what happened. You will likely get it because you're living with someone who has it and it's highly contagious, but like you obviously don't have it right now or else we wouldn't be doing a show.

We wouldn't be sitting on white chairs. Well, I'm taking like extraordinary precautions. I just want to say, I think lice is worse. No, it's not. Nora is like 48 hours, the worst 48 hours ever. But lice is like three weeks. A three week journey to get rid of it. Yeah, sorry.

You don't experience any pain. No. Oh, I think I'd rather, not like, not that I'm asking for anything, but like, if given the choice. You choose lice? No. I choose Nora. I choose Lice. Wow.

Yeah. So, yeah, just sort of, you know, a plane has hit the tower of my home, you know? I'm in hell. True hell. And it's upsetting because, like, I was doing so much last night to prepare for the show. Is that what, like, kids are saying? A plaintiff has hit the time? Yeah. Will they say like when something like, okay, like when somebody makes a little crazy.

It is. And they use it like satirically. Like when something like happens, that's really not a big deal. But the person acts like it's a big deal. They say a plane is at the second tower. Got it. Like that George Bush meme. Yeah. I mean, I guess that like the memory of 9-11 isn't fading with the new generation. Like that's good? No, I don't like it. I'm going to decline. I'm going to decline usage of that phrase. Say less, bestie. And I feel like the, the, the, the, fact that Gen Z or whomever is saying it is because they don't have like an appropriate memory of 9-11 because if they did they wouldn't like make jokes so flippantly. So you're talking about me?

No, no, you're just, you're just going with the culture. You're going with the culture. I'm a teacher. But I will decline your stage. Teacher, what do you see? I see Jacqueline Foley looking at me. Every time I read that book, I get crazier and crazier. Yeah.

I got the Tony of that book because I can't read it anymore, so I wanted the Tony to read it. Lo and behold, I put that little bear on the Tony box. Who's the narrator? Gwenith Paltrow. Yeah. Now, Guineath is getting some hate. I don't know if you saw.

No, I don't like, I don't engage. I don't find myself in those circles. Me neither. My algorithm knows better. People are just unhappy with her performance on the Tony. I really appreciate that she took it hell of fucking seriously, like she was doing voices. sometimes I didn't even recognize that it was her.

Polar bear, polar bear. Like she was being funny. I like it. It adds like a dynamic element. The different voices sounds like multiple people. You guys just don't appreciate Gwyneth Paltrow. And I always have. That's a fun fact about me.

And like, do you have an Oscar? Do you have an Oscar? Then I don't want to hear it. Do you have a billion dollar company? Then I don't want to hear it. Like, should we have an Oscar winning actress voicing our Tony's? Like this is the sort of prestigious. we can only dream for Tony's.

Like Tony should take over the world. They're the most amazing toy ever invented. Like don't clown on the people who are like giving back to the Tony community. Yeah, I also realize like my next gig needs to be voicing a Tony. And actually I did want to voice the brown bear one. I was for sure that there wasn't one. And then there was, and it was voiced by Gwitra. So I was humbled real quickly.

But I'll take something lesser. I'll take, you know, Thomas the train. Here's a couple ideas. One, like a toast, Tony. Because a lot of kids, I've been like now getting recognized by like kids who are like, you're from the podcast. When I was in Dallas, a couple people were like quoting the song that couple kids. That's cute. Yeah, so cute. She's like, you're from my podcast. I was like, thanks, queen. She was very precocious young girl. Did you spit some bars? I said,

Good morning, girlies. No, but you know what I do? I give them a little, I sound amazing. I give them a little that. Oh, wow, were they freaking? Yeah, yeah. Seeing the artist do his work. So we could do a toast Tony where we do our toast tunes where we put But we have to put out our album first. But, like, doing voice work is, like, a goal of mine. So, like, I would get, whatever they're looking for a narrator for, like, I'll do it. Like, I'm really not. And then separately, we need a camper.

We need a camper Tony. Okay, so you're stilling my idea. Like, my dream is now your dream? No, no, no. First of all, I've been on Tony train. And you can look through my emails. Camper Tony has been discussed. Has it?

Yeah, it has. Honestly, I feel like Tonys is so big now. Tony's is so big. and I want the world for them. Truly. I want everything for Tonys. Getting them kids off them screens. The more,

the bigger Tonys gets, like the more licenses and stuff they get, like the more characters that are available, like these random characters, like I'm still waiting for the Babar Tony. That's not in French. Right, right. Seufu play, can we get a Babartoni not in French?

I did something so crazy last night. You watched The Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Of Long Island. I fucking wish. Yeah, I watched, what are we calling it? Rory? Rory. I watched a little too because like Summer House sort of Yes, bled into watching.

And I was like, oh, everyone's talking about it. Let me like meet the ladies. So I met them. I met them too. It's going to take me at least two months to tell them apart. It's so funny. When Salt Lake City premiered, I remember not being able to tell apart Lisa Barlow and Meredith Marks.

And now, like, they look so different. I don't know how I ever thought. So maybe I'll get to that place. But when I tell you, they got six ladies who look exactly like there's just two younger ones and two and like four older ones. I started watching. And the younger ones being Rosie and Ashley. And also. Rosie. Oh, three younger ones. And Kelsey. The one with that lives in the house with the 40 TVs. She's very pretty and very interesting. She's like not doing a good job of like

defending her lifestyle. But I like I like meeting interesting people. And so they certainly chose an interesting bunch. My overall take is that I heard a lot of really good things about it. I haven't watched a second episode yet. And I didn't think it was like, that amazing, but it's good, and I think that there's there there. I think that women have, like, a lot of interesting backstory, and they all really know each other, which is great, except for Ashley. She doesn't know anyone. That's one. Two,

I do feel like it's kind of a replacement for New Jersey. I can't see a world in which Bravo needs both of them. When I thought of Rhode Island, I did not think, maybe I know nothing about Rhode Island clearly, because I think of it as, I don't even know what I thought of it, but I certainly didn't. Newport, the Breakers, you know, the Vanderbiltz. Yes, yeah, it's very posh.

Like, you know, field trip. The show was reminding me a lot of the five minutes I watched of members-only Palm Beach. That's not a good endorsement. So I don't feel, especially then Dolores was on the episode. Because her twin is on the show. Her twin. I don't know. And they're not related?

Or Alicia. They're not related, but Alicia's related to her husband? Oh, yeah, that was funny. But not Dolores. Yeah. I don't think, I think the time will tell. One of these franchises is going to shake out. Like, there's really, it's so similar, you know, like, the big extension.

It's very, like, sort of, like, sparkly, tacky kind of taste, you know. Um, there's not a lot of money, which, you know, I guess like real house has left. There were a couple nice homes. I saw, like, a couple castle looking establishments. There were two nice homes. And one of them is the girlfriend who, her husband doesn't, she's on her way out. She's getting kicked out. Yeah.

And then the other girl, yeah, lives on the water. She was barely in the episode. The one in the proud of boots on the boat. Yes, Liz. But that's no longer a requirement to be a housewife. Like I think they had a really hard time finding people with actual money, even though I found that to be the most interesting part. So you sort of have to let that go. It's not aspirational anymore.

It's just a reality show. You know, it could be on any franchise, any network. So I'm going to continue on with it. I like that Ashley I Kennedy's on it. It makes it feel like... You have a familiar... It's like a friend. You have a friend at school.

At least I know her name. Yeah. Like I don't know any of their names. It was good. Okay. Yeah, maybe I'll get swindled into watching it again via my television. I also watch Summerhouse, which we can do in the TV recap. Well, actually, programming, like I've sort of reprogram, recalibrated the show for today.

And the Summer House recap is going to be within the first story. That's fine. Okay. Because the first story is like Summer House in the city. And like that's what everyone's talking about. It's like, why would we move it to the end? And then one more absolutely bonkers thing happened to be last night that I didn't tell you about. Okay. It better be. No, this is actually fucking crazy. Ready? Guess who commented on my

TikTok? You're never going to guess. Um, man or woman? I can't answer that question. Ooh, Caitlin Jenner? No, I'm fucking, I'm fucking crying. I can't answer that question. Not because of like any gender like issues. More so because it's not necessarily a person. It's a concept. The brown bear It's a program. It's a program. It's a program. Max and Ruby. Oh, I wish.

No. Ready? Four words for you. Chat, GBT. What? Yeah, so I made a TikTok. I thought it was really smart of me, actually. I was doing my makeup, and I got the new house labs foundation and concealer.

I've never bought it before. Had no idea what my shade was. So I asked chat, I'm like, this is my face, and this is like some other foundations that are pretty good. And they told me exactly what to get. I did a TikTok, like, letting chat GBT do my makeup. And it worked flawlessly. I'm wearing it today. I was wearing it yesterday.

I'm obsessed with both of the products. And people in the comments were sort of lauding me as just a pioneer of AI. And then chat chimed in. Obviously, it was a big enough video that chat, it came across her desk. And yeah, chat commented on my TikTok. Very cool. You know, I wear House Labs Foundation. Do you know that about me?

I remember we had a conversation about it. And I remember you were talking about how it was like this sort of kind of challenging time for you switching from your OG foundation. I didn't know that you like stayed there. I stayed there. And it wasn't even intentional. I was gonna go, I wanted just like a little bit

of a lighter foundation and I wound up like I use it every day. I feel like it's been a while since we had a state of the union. I feel like people didn't know that about me. It's very Gen Z of you, honestly. It is. It is very gens. I feel like we haven't had a state of the union

on celebrity makeup brands in such a long time because like the ever changing landscape. House Labs really like dug themselves out of, like when she first launched that brand, it was turn. It was like an ass. Amazon brand and then Sephora got involved in like very slowly it's become like a pargy bread I would say it's up there now with like I feel like rare beauty is taking a little bit of a

dip there was a time where it was like the biggest yeah road is there now like some some brands come and go some are you know some will always be like fenty and some will never take off like R&M beauty yeah yeah correct well are you ready to get into the stories and JLo beauty yeah yeah is that real. Yeah, it was skincare. I don't know if they're still in business because I... Was it Glow? Jaylo Glow. No, it was called J-Lo Beauty. Wasn't glow by J-Lo? It was J-Lo Beauty. It was skincare. I think like for mature women.

No, I think you're confusing with like A-Rod's men's skincare because they were dating at the time. No, I'm not checking. She had a skincare line. No, no, but like I don't know about the maturity. I don't think they ever had one sale. So I think that's probably why they closed down. Interesting. Well, that hasn't stopped other brands. Like who? Name them. Name them.

Who hasn't had one sale? I have to circle back with you on that, but I'm not afraid to say if I can think of. I didn't think you were afraid. I'm mad of her afraid. Never. Don't be afraid, Jackie. I'm not afraid.

Something so random that our family, like, quotes. And it's funny because every family has, like, different movie and TV show quotes that, like, resonate and they always reference in their modern lives. and for us, like the weirdest thing that we always quote, you can't say the word afraid without, no, I'm afraid. What's it from this episode? No, Sweet Life of Zach and Cody, where London is learning how to swim.

And they're like, oh my God, I can't leave you don't know how to swim. And so she's learning to swim. And they're like, okay, now take your hands off the wall or whatever. And she's like, no, I'm afraid. It's like the most, do you know what episode I'm talking about? Random. We say it all the time. That's so crazy.

That's like, I can learn from, um, But I can learn. That was like a really sad scene. Yeah, actually. Some Law & Order, this girl was like, I think she was like mentally handicapped, right? And something with the scissors? No, that was a different episode. Wait, which is the scissors?

Olivia's going to know. Oh, I stabbed her in the back. I put her in the back. No, but there's like a whole monologue with that one. Hold on. Were they stamped in the back? Law and Order episode, Scissors stabbed in the back. it's like this little girl with a black bob and she like kills someone skin deep

I stabbed him in the back I heard him so then I grabbed the scissors and I stabbed him in the back I heard him in the back grabbed the scissors and then she takes a geratic pause I took the grab the scissors then I stabbed him in the back and I think she was from Long Island she's from Pensacola that's not much bigger than Maysville law and order like I'm never going to find this random quote why would you Unless it's stuck with anyone else. Yes. This quote appears in Law and Order Special Victims Unit episode Alien.

The lines are spoken by a young girl named Emma Boyd during a tearful confession. I was mad. I was so mad. I grabbed the scissors and I heard him in the back with them. He fell down and hit his head, cracking the fuck up. The boy was up paralyzed. I was so mad. Oh my God.

And I think the girl, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm going to double check. The actress is the little girl from. Jersey Girl with Ben Affleck. Oh, that I don't know about that. That I don't know. I never saw that. I'm 90% sure. Oh, 1,000%.

Yep, I'm right. Confirmed. Like, we're constantly delivering facts on this podcast. Yeah. Okay, now that we've quoted enough random episodes of SVU. Emma Boyd. We can get into the fast five stories

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I like that. Our first story, in the house, in the house, in the city, trailer drops. That's also a good title. In the house. So in the city, the show that follows the summer house cast and friends into the fall in the city, the trailer has dropped. the show is centered around Lindsay Hubbard, Kyle, and Amanda, along with some new castmates. It really focuses on like couples and married people in the city.

Now, Carl has spoken out about why he was not on the show. I saw that clip today. It was kind of sad. Yeah, but he said like they weren't really focusing on single people. And he was like, yeah. He said he did film though when he was kind of cut out. Yeah. He was hoping to like maybe be in the second season.

I think he's going to need to get a girlfriend. Like I, I mean, it makes sense. Like the Valley doesn't have like actually single people. They may have divorced people or with children who are navigating that season of their life. But it's not for singles. Like sorry. Singles may not apply. And I feel like for so many years reality TV really like was exclusively for single people.

If you were like in a relationship, you were considered boring and sort of like set to the side out to pasture. Sunsetted. Yeah. I love that Bravo has this like genre of shows. The Valley Persian version now in the city which is like housewives is older. And then summer house like those younger. shows where everyone's single like Southern Charm is younger. And I feel like now they have this sort of in-between genre, which I really like. And I'm sorry, Carl, like when he was watching,

while I was watching his podcast today, I thought it was really sweet and I felt bad for him. But it's like, it's time for the married people to finally get some attention. Yeah, get some love, people with young children. But it also makes sense because it's like, and that's like our age right now and it feels like very convenient. Like, oh, these shows are happening when we're in this moment too. But I think it's successful. A lot of their viewers like are, you know, millennial women who started watching. Vanderpump Rules and we're like living for it and now like are settling down and having kids and like we find this sort of content interesting and also their lives of Mormon wives has been like huge for the genre and the Valley I would say the valley sort of like invented the genre yeah

and I think it's great and also like those people who were on Vanderpumbril was like yeah eventually they got married and had kids and I want to say this is such a credit to Lindsay Hubbard because I if she didn't go and have a baby like this show would not exist they literally made a show for her because she had a baby and they wanted to go to summer house on television So like, and lay mama. I caught up on Summer House. She's such a bright spot.

Like, she doesn't add to the drama at all, but like she's so fucking funny that it really would have been such a waste for them to not have been able to utilize her in any way. So I love that the show was built around her. I do have a couple of notes when it comes to like the cast and crew. I think like,

I think the Summerhouse audience like really doesn't like Danielle. And I don't think we needed her. Danielle's back and Andrea's back. Which I think people have really. missed him and loved him and there is this like mystery around the girl lexie that he like left the show for like i think that he's perfect for it it looks like a enormous cast the cast photo it must have been 20 people i like couldn't didn't know where to look that's a little overwhelming and i feel like i don't love that but all in all i don't know if the show would have been as i mean it's i just not a success yet but the trailer like

everyone's obsessed with that this whole scimand of all thing is kind of the best thing to happen to summerhouse I don't know what the future of In The City would have looked like. I think maybe it would have been like a smaller valley, but I do think now it's huge because we're all watching this season of Summerhouse looking for clues. The city was filmed after that. So we're all looking at clues there. I think already they had a season because like Kyle and Amanda got divorced on the season.

Right, right. So it was already like, okay, that's where we'll go to like actually the relationship will end in the city. Like when they're done filming, I think they're officially separated. So yes, more clues for like West Amanda in the trailer. Like Wes is in it and they're hugging. and we can look for crumbs. Some of the other cast members include Nick Barber and his wife, Yvonne.

Then, do you remember Whitney Franzwey? Of course I do. On The Bachelor. And she's on it. I weirdly like keep up with her sister on TikTok. Oh, yeah. They're both like influencers. Influencers.

But her sister's a really big influencer. And she has, like a TikToker, she has a baby. And her and her man do like cute couple content. I think he cooks. They remind me a lot of me in bed. Oh, cute. Well, Whitney's boyfriend, Kenny, is also an investor in lover boy. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, he's Kyle's friend and a fellow lover boy investor. So that's like a real tie. Plus, she's like has reality TV roots. So that's actually a pretty good casting. I agree. I love Bravo tapping old Bachelor contestants. I feel like that's an untapped market. And I think that it's a really good idea.

These are professionals. Those girls, when they were, that was like, oh, gee, remember Unreal? Like, it was cut the road. They know how to be on TV. Yeah. especially someone like Ashley I she's a veteran Whitney like I think sort of coasted

through her season and like she was very forgettable I think she still is like around because she's friends with a lot of the girls she's very like not controversial so like I don't think she's actually like been had the reality of the experience yet so I wonder how this will be for her but like Jasmine Good is on the valley I feel like people forget that she's also from The Bachelor

Yes I like her that's so funny yeah Then we have Danielle Alvera who's formerly from Summerhouse with her man's Ian Heavey. I feel like she got a boyfriend just so she could like be eligible for the show. Yeah. You know what? I don't mind that she's here. I'm going to give her space and the opportunity because every show needs a villain,

first of all. Yeah. And now she's having a moment because she said five years ago she didn't trust Amanda. Like, oh please, I haven't seen anybody giving her. Like she was just saying me things about everyone. Sorry, a broken clock is right twice a day. No, you haven't seen that clip like, ding. Oh, no, I haven't.

This is what everyone's doing now, which is so frustrating me. They're clipping old stuff from Summer House. Anytime someone looks sideways at Amanda. Dang out, clocked Amanda. Yeah, right, right, right. Okay, Paige, like, did clock Amanda in that reunion clip. That was kind of crazy. Yeah, I feel like she was giving a dirty look at West.

To West, of course. But now, I don't know, but now with the Craig stuff, like, maybe. Maybe she found Amanda to be, like, disloyal. Yeah, but like, but then they continue to be, like, best friends, bedbugs. etc. So bless you. I have heard that a lot of the friendships on Summerhouse are a little like exaggerated in the sense when it comes to Amanda. I've heard that like she actually like goes really MIA during the off season and a lot of the girls are like really, really friends. And I think that's why Paige said on Giggly Squad. She like was speaking in code and everybody's like decoding it.

She's like, well, Sierra's our real friend. So Amanda's not. Yeah, I've heard that like Amanda like doesn't talk to any of the girls when she doesn't like they're not working. I don't know. It's just like convenient. Like oh, now all of a sudden that she's on the outside. None of us ever liked her. We're friends with her.

It's true. Oh, of course. But it does kind of make it a little bit more understandable how maybe she could stab Sierra in the back. Like maybe they weren't that close. Yeah, for sure.

But it's just like, even all the fans. And I would have loved to see last night's episode and the reaction to it. Yes. Yes. Before West Mandiwold. because that my jaw hit the floor. It actually takes a lot to shock me.

Like when I heard Ben reiterating the story of what Sabrina said, I was floored. And I love his directness being like, why did you say that? Yeah, he was like really upset. But also like he moves kind of weirdly because, yeah, like he did go skinny with him with Amanda. And then this summer when like Bailey made a joke that Ben was in love with Amanda, like he got so mad.

More mad than Amanda who's like the one who's married. And he's like, why would you think I'm going after my mate's? missus and not my mate's missus the mates misses and I would have loved to see how the audience reacted to last night's

episode and like thought like if Ben was in the wrong and Amanda was in like now that Amanda you know nothing she can say or do is right like everyone's going to pile on but I just feel like I don't know if everyone would I feel like people would have like defended her and just thought Ben was like weird and the new guy being weird or like she didn't say it

no I think she said it obviously because also next week like the girl confronts her. That girl was just like, she's, she hit the ground running. You know, she wants a career and she's going to get it. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good episode. I'm like, so I haven't watched week to week. So just like a big catch up, I want to say a few things. You're caught up or you like are jump back in. I skipped a couple episodes. I'm not going to line. The way I like need Carl and Bailey, like I don't know why he's so resistant to like cooking up with someone in the house. She's very sound of mind.

She's not like a crazy drinker. I think that has to be like a consideration for Carl. And I like her a lot. I think she's like really honest and funny. She's definitely a shit starter. She's like exaggerate. I like what she said. I don't lie I exaggerate.

Like she does. And I kind of like them together. Yeah. Even though I don't know why he feels so much older. Yeah. No, he doesn't feel so much old. I actually, I like them together too. I think he's just like scared, period.

And she's like, you know, a little bit awkward. and so like no one's going to like make the move but I think that they could be nice together. I think she's really adorable and like earnest. Adorable. I think she's a nice girl. Her friend Levi like. Levi. Levi can come on namesake.

Yes, Levi can come. I don't know if we want her, but she can. Well, I feel bad for Levi because there's some reason why Levi should. And like I think Levi is just like a very like strong self-assured person because like she doesn't care that she's not on the show sometimes. She's not starting shit to be on. the show more. She loses her spot in the house when Lindsay comes. Like it's either Lindsay or her every weekend. And she doesn't like desperately cling to her spot, like starting drama to stay in the

house. Like I kind of like her energy. She's just like a supportive friend. And she's like, yeah, come on your show. Sure. Yeah. Agreed. And you might have to help me like fill in some blanks. Because like this girl, Dara, who's coming in at the second to last weekend as a full-time castmate and has a boyfriend already. Like I'm so confused. So there was a singles event in the city. I saw that. Everyone had to bring a single friend. West invited Dara, this girl that he used to hook up with. And I think she was meant to be cast on the show.

I think that was him like bringing her into the show. So late. No, no, no. This was like a few weeks ago. Okay. And then that following weekend she came out to the house like for the day party and she was flirting with Ben and KJ. She thought that they both were cute.

I remember the big flirty day. The big flirty day. She's like checking out her options. Everybody likes her. then literally that week her and KJ start dating and now they're like serious and they're still dating today. That's nice. Yeah so like now she's coming in as like KJ's girlfriend but I think she was always meant to get cast on the show. Got it. And I feel like they are there's the room is at the house is at capacity so unless someone's not there like no one's getting a room but now that

Dara doesn't need her own room like right right that works. But yeah I think she was meant to be on the show and then she wound up like actually dating a cast member. And I say this every time we talk about Summerhouse over the last 10 years. I'm just like, I will never get over it. Maybe it's just because like it would never fly if I was there. But like the way that Kyle and Amanda get the master every season, like without question. Like I think it's so unfair. Like since season one.

I think there was one or two seasons where a couple of the girls, like three girls shared one room, the master. But like, excuse me. Yeah. Then I think they didn't like it. I feel like I remember like the AC doesn't work as good there. And I'm sure it's also really loud. And it's on the main floor.

Yeah. Usually like the boys, the new boys. sleep on the main floor and like the girls sleep upstairs. I think it's quieter. But I agree. Like you get the master, you know, you just got married, fine. No, for sure. And I think for a while I was like, well,

we're two people in a room. But like now there's other couples. A lot of the girls share rooms. Yeah. No, I don't like, I don't care. And also like you guys, you're not like mom and dad of the house. Like you're seriously like scary and scarier of the house. The crazy aunt and uncle. Go in the attic. Agreed.

So I will now start keeping up weekly because obviously we have so many clues to look for. Yeah, we have to look for clues. I wonder if they'll change the edit at all. I don't, I felt like they did that. Is it too late? I don't think so. I felt like they did that with Scandabal, but there was also just so much of the air and Markell was just like spinning out. They were so not smart about it. Yeah, they really, when she said to Lala like, good thing you don't have a man for me to steal. Like she's queen. Sorry, she ate down with that. That was crazy. It was amazing. Um, so what else happened last night on the summer house? Lindsay's apartment

We need to talk about Lindsay's apartment I had seen it before When she moved into it I was like following very closely It's an insane apartment I've seen her apartment on Instagram I've seen her like But every corner of the apartment

Is done to the knives And she has like a foyer She has so many bookshelves She had a piano player Which means she has a piano piano piano It's an insane apartment in the city Do you know like what neighborhood it's in?

They said financial district I don't know if they tell the truth It's like crazy to tell people where you live Oh yeah but it's in Manhattan. It's not, I thought maybe it was like in Brooklyn or something. It's incredible. Incredible.

Every time I see it on her stories, I'm like in shock. And she's like, it's all for my Gemma girl. I fucking love her. Like, I'm sorry. I love her so much. And I feel so vindicated because when she was getting so much shit so many years ago, when we just like popped into Summerhouse to see what was going on and we were like, I don't know what's the very beginning.

We took like five years off and then we came back with Carl and Lindsay. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. here, but like I'm, like, I agree with Lindsay. Like, sorry. It just is what it is. It feels good. We never turned on Lindsay. Never.

Everyone did. That's so us, though. What's also so funny is I remember when we used to recap it, we'd be like, I don't like Lindsay. Like, she's not my kind of girl. I don't want to be friends with her. I don't like her personality, but she's right. Yes, right.

And now I feel like she's matured so much that we've met her. She's been on the show, but I think if I, like, went out to dinner with her, I would have a blast. Yeah. No, it's funny. She's funny. We've, like, we've, like, grown to be like. Her speech thing, she's literally Olivia Oshrey with the speeches.

She's hysterical. I could not get over her place. It was done so beautifully. Like, yeah. Oh my gosh. I need to know more. I only want the best for her and Gemma girl. I need a house tour.

Can she take me to the first second, third floor? I saw about the music video. Madeline Klein, Margaret Qualley, shaking their tushies, very 70s, like, you know. I heard about, I saw about it. Like I saw the headline and I was like, good. I saw some clips. It made me feel bad about myself. Good on you, girls.

Yeah, I, like, felt fat, so I didn't watch the whole thing, you know. Yeah. It's called protecting your mental health. Oh, I want to talk about mental health. Okay. Switching gears. Switching gears. Actually, I take it back.

I don't want to talk about mental health. Oh, switching gears again. Back to summer house. Back to summer house. That was all in the summer house. Oh, we're getting to know Mia Moore. I think she's great cast. Oh, I love that girl.

Yeah. Oh, I love that girl. When she was sitting down for brunch with Lindsay and Amanda, she said something so deeply, oh, my God, I actually started crying. She said her mom died a year and a half ago and she just feels so untethered in this world. And she like, oh, I like, I just love her. Like, I love her. I don't really like her boyfriend.

No, me neither. And like she needs, like, I think she would like be an amazing mom. She's already like a mother to the group. And I think a baby would make her feel so tethered to this world. It's like we need to give her a baby. Someone needs to give her boyfriend like a restaurant contract in New York City so that like he can be local and she can have a baby. Yeah, I completely agree. Like having a baby will heal her like hearing her talk about all that.

I love her so much. Like I just, I don't know where they found her. She's amazing. She's like Sierra's real friend. Love that. Mm-hmm. Love. Yeah.

Oh, and Sierra like bought her grandparents house. That was so crazy. The thing that she had to go to court and she did it all under a land trust and her dad doesn't know. At first in the last episode, I, I, I, I, Watch the back end of last week's last night. So I don't know which is which, but she's saying how her grandparents' house came up for sale. And so she bought it.

And like, okay, great. And then it turns out in this episode, we find out that, like, her dad was the one selling it. And so she, like, bought it anonymously from her dad. But I didn't realize that, like, it was from her dad and that, like,

I guess. And she doesn't talk to her dad. Right. I wonder what would have happened if, like, she had wanted to buy it from, like, if she said, like, I wonder why she didn't do that, like,

what he would have said, Because they don't talk. What do you have said no? Probably. Or maybe like hiked up the price. Because she's a big star. Yeah, because she said she didn't want special treatment. But that could be like positive or negative.

She was spotted out last night at the Euphoria season premiere. Right. She did an interview, listen, with Sidney. Just listen to this. And ex-boyfriend. It's not good. What do you think is the next step? I honestly, I feel like you ought to get married.

I mean, I would hope so. You got to make it worse. You got to make it worth that. I don't know what they're saying. It's worth something. Yeah, it's just worth too much pain. Yeah. If you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend, it's not good.

She was asking her, like, if you steal your friend's ex-boyfriend, I think that's also a plotline in Euphoria. Oh, she does. She steals Nate from Maddie. So Sierra's doing red carpet interview. Yeah, that's like been a big thing for her recently. Yeah. That's very cool.

Well, actually, that's a great segue to our next story, which is the Euphoria Season 3 premiere. Our headline news is that Cindy, Sweeney, and Scooter Bruner spotted kissing at the premiere. I think that they're cute together. I can't believe Euphoria season three is premiering. It's actually been 83 years. It's so crazy. And everyone like hates it, right? Zendary doesn't talk about it in press,

has not said one piece, Jacob Allerty, who's like actively doing press for Wuthering Heights and stuff, has not. There is something so sinister about the show in general. If you watch it, it's a very dark anxiety-inducing show.

But then also knowing that everyone seems really unhappy on the set, there's something very spooky about the whole thing. And I know that the premiere years like all bright light. We have Sierra from Summerhouse. But I don't know. I can smell it. Yeah, this will probably be like their last tour off.

Oh, and then Barbie Ferreira leaving. Like, it's weird. I feel proud that I'm not engaged in this whatsoever. I clocked it from, I clocked it. Even though. I tried to watch one episode a million years ago. And I was like, this is like so dark and not the way I want to feel when I'm trying to be entertained.

Of course. But as like a mother to, you know, future teenagers, you've got to know what the kids are up to. because the kids are not fucking okay. Sure, but like this is Hollywood. Like, that's not my life. It's not my life. Like, that's not my life.

It's, when I saw it, it really made me concerned for the younger generation, if it's even remotely relatable and like based on. Well, first, it's, it's, no. Like, no, see? No.

Like, definitely have concerns. Definitely keep your eyes and ears open, but like, no. It's such a crazy show. And now it's no longer about high school. It just like it doesn't have to be that way, you know? Yeah. Whatever.

And it's not about high school now. The show jumps to the future like five or six years. You know, Nate and Maddie are married or Nathan Cassie are married. She's an only fan's model. I'm excited. Okay. Let us know how it is. I do think it's going to be like a better show in post-grad.

You know, it's too dark to be kids. It's very upsetting. I agree with that. It already sounds better the way you're describing it. Yeah, it has like a very underlying spooky tone because all of this disgusting pornographic and like violent things are happening to kids in high school. Ooh. Well, on the bright side, Sydney and Scooter took their.

They didn't walk the carpet together like, which is fine. No, it's her big night. He's more of a BTS kind of guy anyway. Yeah, but they were like kissing in their seats. So cute. It's funny. I'm like really able to compartmentalize the different parts of Scooter Braun. There are so many eras of him in his career.

course the Taylor Swift, but then also the Justin Bieber, the manager. But now I really see him, because he did like such great work for the Jews. I see him as like this businessman philanthropist who's dating Sidney. Like I, I've literally forgotten everything I know about him up until this point. It's like all been erased. And it's like, yes, that's exactly who she should be dating. Yeah, she loves a businessman. She's been very consistent in that. And so in that interview with Sierra, she said she does want to get married. I wonder if he's open to marriage again. I know. Oh, did you see that his wife?

I feel like for Sydney, yeah. Oh, did we talk about this, that his wife was on real hospice to Beverly Hills? No, we talked about that she was spotted with Tom Brady or, like, rumored to be dating Tom Brady. Oh, yeah, I think she was also at Rachel Zoe's party. Mm-hmm. I saw a still image of her.

Yeah. Very beautiful woman. Very beautiful woman. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Secret Lives of Mormon Wah, the secret lives. But she's not filming. Speaking of, Jen Affleck posted a video that's got rumors of swirling.

She's very teary and disheveled saying she's very hopeful for a new life chapter in a tearful video. So she posted a video sort of saying it's a new chapter. It's a new dawn. It's a new day. It's a new light. Lots of vagueness. Lots of like rubbing her eyes and just saying, you know, she got married at 19 and she had a baby

at 20 and she hasn't discovered who Jen is and she's going. through a hard time. And usually when she's in a hard time, she doesn't like share, but she's trying to share and she'll share about the hard time. And people are also saying she's very clearly not wearing her wedding ring. Her hands are all over the video. I want to say she's not wearing any ring. She's not wearing makeup. She is wearing hoops, which means she did put on a little jewelry and skipped the ring. But I don't think she's getting a divorce. I don't think that's what she was trying to signal. But maybe that's me being naive, but like, that's, I'm sorry. So they just had a baby like seriously what are you doing but that doesn't stop these people i know but like they're

like like as if your life isn't hard enough right now now you have to give your kids up for half the time and also now you have to like go through a divorce or a separation and all this like just stop for a second i saw a really like a tweet a while ago that was like do not make big decisions before your kids turn to you're not in a position to make big decisions whether it's separating or like give yourself time and this is all like barring abuse which we've not seen we've not seen that from Zach Affleck and we I mean I know he did go sit down with Whitney but like I'm gonna not hold that against him at the moment no he's obviously like a bad guy but I think a lot of what this season looked like really her more so being like a kind of a rational and a bad decision maker and him

just like going along with whatever she says yeah she sent him to go talk to Whitney so She can't be mad at him for that. He also said, like, production was, like, wanting him to, I guess they wanted someone to talk to Whitney, and if Jen wasn't going to go, because she was, like, grieving, dancing with the stars, he had to go. Whatever, I'm not going to hold that against him. I feel like he's been really supportive.

He's sort of, like, a puppet. No, and he, like, he was really awful in the first season, but I feel like he actually, over the last few years, has, like, understood what his role is going to be, how he can support his wife. And, like, he's been a good partner. And so I just think the idea of them separate. rating right now, to me, it sounds like so fatiguing, like, as if the last six months haven't

been stressful enough for her, but even before she had this baby, she had pre-partum depression, like, just sit down. So I didn't see that tweet, but I saw a TikTok, and it was like all these different girls commenting. It was so interesting I'd never thought about it before. And this girl was like, a lot of times I just wish I stayed married. And again, barring abuse or anything really bad, but it's just like not, it's not your guy. because she was like the idea of having to drop my kids off every Sunday

is so big compared to just like sleeping with somebody who I'm not like majorly in love with and I had never really like thought of it like that and then of course someone was kind of well my abuser that's not what we're talking about of course just like a you know people get divorced for just like you know maybe we were rushed into things maybe we're not compatible we're not happy

and so it was just a bunch of girls being like I think about this all the time like because it's so heart-wrenching doing those drop-offs. And it's just like it never goes well, even with two well-intended people. Like it's just, that's a nature of divorce. And even if it goes well, it means you don't have your kids 100% of the time. And she was like being in a bad marriage is nothing compared to having your kids 50% of the time. And I feel like that's kind of Jen and Ben.

I don't think that there's anything nefarious going on. I do think they got married too young. I do think they're not compatible. But like at this point, is it worth the alternative? I don't know. Yeah, she also was. saying like that she's like, frontal lobe is developing. She's like recognizing new parts of herself.

Well, that's so true. Getting married at 19 and having a baby at 20 is whack. Like it's seriously whack. I think it leaves a lot of room for like her to be like struggling with her sense of self. But I don't buy into the illusion that you have to leave a marriage or a relationship to discover new parts of yourself. I hate that shit.

And I hate to quote the awful Ben Platt. But his song grow together is about that. it's like, why can't we grow together? Like, we all, we have a lot of growing up to do. I don't, I don't really buy into that. And I think that like, you can do both. Yeah, but I also, I don't think it's a blanket statement what you just said, like getting married at 19 and having a baby a 20 is whack.

Like, like, no, no, I think it can be really hard for a girl who, front of lobe has not been developed. And then throwing in all the fame. Yeah. Some people it doesn't affect. But I think it's more often than not like you're going to go through a rough patch when you start to like really understand who you are. Yeah. But I think everyone's,

going to go through a rough patch. So like that's just your reason why that you did. Yeah. But I think like the exception to the rule is like it going perfectly. But more often than not if you get married super young, both of you guys. That's why they say like, you know, you're not supposed to get married so young. It is going to be bumpy. Yeah.

Yeah. And then you have to think of all the things on top of it for her. If you're committed and like you can navigate it together. Yeah. But there's so much. They're navigating so much. They are navigating so much. And they keep, like, adding to their plate.

And that's what I don't, like, sit down. Like, put roots down. Be near family. Focus on, like, you know, a couple things. Not like, not to say she shouldn't have done dancing with the stars, but then, like, she said she's moving to LA. Like, what? What?

And now she's, like, spearheading that spin-off. Right. Be with family. Yeah, it's true. They're not, their situation is tough. I believe that. And they probably are going through, like, a little bit of a marriage rough patch. I don't think that they're going to get divorced.

and like this also is a business. So, you know, they're not filming right now. I think a lot of them feel like they've been eclips by West Mandivall. So yeah, maybe she's just starting stuff by wearing hoops and no ring. I thought so too. And I'm fine with that. And I just like, I just don't think that they should separate right now. Like I, what so that she then is like either not with her kids or is with her kids

and doesn't have her co. Her partner to like help her. Right. Like that's also hard being a single mom. Like, and just sit down. Sit down. She was like stressing out in that thing. video like not everything needs to be like figured out right this second like you're she's has how old

is her baby like eight months younger than ruby she's two months behind me yeah just calm down just take a breath you know yeah um so that's the latest with the secret lives Mormon wives but they're not filming sorry like that one soundlight is going to rehabilitate his career Oh, absolutely. That plus like the Marciano. Yeah. It's kind of been a bad week for Jesse Draper formerly. She doesn't care because she is like,

she's like writing a script of her life, like for her show. I just hope internally she's actually okay, you know? I don't think she is. Damn. Because she's also now having to like drop her kids off. Yeah. But it sounds like she's been living that way for a while because in the call her daddy interview,

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It was the first thing on my feet this morning. She hard launched her boyfriend. She said, stop making fun of his looks, you fucking bitches. And I agree. They made fun of his looks? He's so normal looking. She said that people were like surfacing bad photos of him and like making fun of his looks. I love her more than anything

and I need to get this message to her like in such a like an urgent manner stop sharing your personal life on TikTok like seriously she's so young she's just getting divorced like just stop like because obviously everyone's commenting you're moving on too fast like who cares you make your own choices whatever

but like I actually think you really need to stop sharing elements of your personal life although she did post something so she posted two hilarious things she's so funny one was she was like I'm starting a new series things my haters bought me because she gets so much engagement

from her haters that ultimately just makes her more money and she bought a burkin, black. So she did an unboxing her like haters. She said she's going to start making it a series of all the things she can afford because of her haters.

And then two, she did a Raleigh activist try on, but she was so funny. Can I actually find it? Yeah. Oh gosh. What are you going to hear this time? She was, no, no, she was basically saying

that she knows it's, going to be good because all the people who work on the brand work on her brand too. Yeah, well, we said that. No, of course, but it was just like very like turning. Like making it so much about herself. When I think a lot of people would have actually really wanted to hear from her because she has acne prone skin and she's like known for having really bad skin and like huge transformations. Okay, let's see if I can find it.

Earl's new line real actives. Now I bought this myself. I was not sent this in Pia and I really want to test this line because as someone with acne prone skin, I actually am so excited about this. This sounds right up my alley and this is the exact routine that I like to do in the evening. I know this shit is going to be good because Alex Earl has the same exact investment. Esther is me, the same exact designers, and works with a lot of the same people that I work with to make my brand point of view. So if I ain't putting out shit, she ain't going to put out shit either. Trust me. But yes, Sam, if you're seeing this, he designed my packaging and Alex's. You killed it on this. I absolutely love the packaging. Genuinely, I think that this packaging is so freaking cool.

It is beautiful. It feels luxurious. So we have the cleansing bomb. We have a cleanser. I don't know. I can't explain. Like, I thought the whole thing was a little shady. Shady.

Yeah. Because, you know, they're both beauty TikTokers and, you know, Michaela, like, launched skincare first. I don't know. Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but it felt like a little drama. Well, what was her overall review? Positive or negative?

Oh, I didn't get to that. Well, if it was positive, then it wasn't shady. Because she just gave her so much price. Okay. Should we continue watching it? No, no, I don't want to watch it anymore. But she's like the most. influential, you know, TikTok influencer of our time.

And so if she gave a positive review, like that, and she has acne-prone skin, like, sorry, not shady. But I think she wants to just be like, hey, don't forget about me. My shit's premium, too. Don't forget. Yeah, yeah. She got to look out for Michaela's self. Number one.

Our next story is for you. Me? Adrian Grene gets justice for his Devil Wears product character in a new Starbucks commercial. Do you see this commercial? I did. I did. Adrian Grenier. And what's so funny is that like the opening video of it was like,

you guys might have heard I was not asked to be in a certain sequel. And I was like, what sequel? I'm like, Anzharaj has another movie. I literally could not like place what he was talking about until the very end. Yeah, so he said, you might have seen the headlines. I wasn't asked to be a part of a certain sequel, but I'm good. Really, it's all good. Then it turns out he's talking to his barista at Starbucks.

And so he makes a toast to Nate. he said he made a mean sandwich. He loves his girlfriend to a point. He wasn't perfect. So let's leave Nate in 2006 and keep this good energy going. And this is for the good energy beverages at Starbucks. Their energy refreshers. Yeah, I'm not like totally under like seeing the product alignment.

But I do think conceptually like getting Adrian Grinier in your ad to talk about how terrible his character was like obsessed, Toasty Lions, even though I'm really not understanding. how it connects. I think if we reverse engineer it, like this is an ad for Starbucks and Devil Wears Prada. Like at the end, there's a promotion for Devil Wears Prada. So like it's...

Oh, oh, it's both. It's an... So say, like, Devil's Prada came to Starbucks and said, like, we want to run ads with you guys. And so, like, then they were like, okay, thinking of ideating, who can be... Maybe it's Miranda getting her order. I think that would have been great.

But maybe they couldn't get Miranda's budget. So they say, what if we bring Nate? to talk about having good energy. And you know, like the lore. Even though he didn't get cast. The lore of Adrian Grenier and Starbucks, he's like a long time something. Like he was part of the number,

the driving force behind straws being like, quote, removed from Starbucks, even though they're all still there. You just have to ask for it. And then doing those dumb plastic lids that like have even more plastic. He's like a big plastic guy. And he spearheaded the campaign

to get Starbucks like to nationally globally, remove their straws. So he has worked with them before. I believe that there's a relationship there. Yeah. So that's maybe why they thought to tap him. I loved it. And I loved that like we're speaking negatively about Nate. I feel like Adrian himself like doesn't get enough hate for like what he did to the straw industry. Like really so fruitlessly. Like they didn't move the needle on plastics whatsoever. It just made everyone's everyday lives like more inconvenient. And don't forget how able is it was. I never forgot.

It's able us to insist that we not use plastic dress and don't give me with the paper. Don't give me. Now, Adrian Grinier is either the greatest actor of all time or one of the most genuinely insufferable human beings of all time. Because the roles that I know him from, Vinnie Chase, an absolutely fucking dreadful human being. And Nate Yarlesberg, one of the worst boyfriends of all time. he's either, like, he may be an amazing person, in which case he deserves like several Oscars because he's such a convincing actor,

or he's just like that. But we're supposed to like Vinnie, right? He's like the carry. And even though we don't like love him, and he's our protagonist. So that's a really good comparison of him being the carry. But if you do, like, I don't know how you ever could like him.

He is so self-indulged. He's such a terrible friend, such a poor decision maker, so reckless. He actually makes the show unwatchable, honestly. I agree. And I've rewatched Entourage like several times. I'm deep in the fandom. Oh my God. It's so funny. Speaking of Devil Wears Prada, I ended up on like this thread. People are really upset because I guess in the new movie, Emily's married to a man. And I guess like it's just been clear like this entire time that she's a lesbian. Oh, everyone just assumed from the first

movie that she's a lesbian. Yeah. Oh. And that like maybe Giselle was like her Oh, I think people might have just gotten carried away. That's like a fever dream, obviously. And I feel like people like obviously made up this like backstory for her and then are just like mad that producers didn't like... Didn't align with it. Right fan their fan fiction. But that's really funny.

I never thought that. I think like lesbians just identified with her and assumed that she was probably just a lesbian. Interesting. So then like for that to have not been their reality, it was difficult for them to digest. Oh, okay. I didn't know that was happening. Much like Cynthia we, though.

But one thing about me, I'm going to tell you things you don't know are happening. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Mm-hmm. Kylie Jenner and Timothy Shalamee get dinner with Kendall Jenner at Sushi Park. We also ran into Ashley Benson.

They did. Everyone was at Sushi Park. The strip mall sushi joint beloved by Hollywood's elite. Yeah. Everyone's always there. We have to go if we're ever in L.A. I don't think you can go.

Really? It's literally in like, a shopping plaza on the second floor. You know the stairs or the elevator? Like, you know how motels that have like two floors? It's like. Outdoor staircase. In Raising Helen, when Joan Cusack goes to get Hayden Pantyre out of that like

turt motel room with her boyfriend on prom night and she like bangs down the door, it's just like that. But one of them is like a hair salon, a nail place, a sushi restaurant. Like a pizza place. A pizza place. Joe's Pizza. Tattoo parlor. It's so strange.

I need to get inside. I know. Are there photos of the inside? like on the internet. Yeah, go to the geolocation on Instagram. Oh yeah, like, yeah, sushi park inside. But they're just like so real, you know?

Oh, yeah, so real. Oh, it's literally. Kind of looks insane per yuge. Jackie, it literally just looks like a run-down sushi joint, like with wooden chairs. It must be so good. There's one in Paris. Ben has to go.

Ben has to go. Kylie's looking cute. I mean, Kendall's looking cute. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. It's parjie. It's parjie on the inside. Actually, I don't think it is. There's like a lot of conflicting photos on the internet.

Like, it's so mysterious. Oh my God, this just Jared article is so pick me. Listen to this. Taylor eats there. Like, it's insane. Yeah, everyone. Okay, I'm ready for the pick me. If you are not aware, Kylie and Timothy have been together for over three years.

We actually posted the very first piece of gossip that led them together back in April of 2020. So fucking funny. Everyone's just worried about number one. I mean, I get it. Except for Levi from Summerhouse. It's so true. She's like a comfortable too.

Maybe even three. Yeah. And I think she has a lot of just like peace. Everyone's so worried. Like, do they know we were the first report about Kylie? Right. Do we give a fuck? No.

No. We don't. Do we know Michaela's designer is the same as that. Not that I would ever clown on Kayla. Me neither. Like if she has no haters, I've died. She has no lovers. If she has no lovers.

No, if Ben Platt has no haters, like actually check on Ben's offer because I probably died. Check on me. Yeah. Check on you because I've died. Who do you think hates him more? You.

Who do I hate most? Oh, Mark Ruffalo. Yeah, like you hate Mark Ruffalo more than I do. Yeah. I hate a lot of people. Yeah. But it's so funny how like when you're obsessed with pop culture and celebrities, like, it ebbs and flow so much. That's how I was feeling about Carl.

Because in Carl's like season with Lindsay, oh my God, it was painful. Like, and soft bar. And now it's like softbar is kind of a good idea. I think it's doing like decently well. I think his podcast is really sweet. I think he's a very nice guy. Like I don't know. And when he talks about his brother, like I just like love him.

Yeah. It's so crazy. It is so crazy. That's just, you know, seasons change and we're capable of change. I don't like hold a grudge and hold it forever. No, I went through that with Selena Gomez, you know, didn't like and then I really liked and now I'm back to not liking. That's like, yeah, not a great example.

That feels kind of permanent. Who else? Oh, who else? Like, yeah, it happens all the time. All the time. I don't see it changing for Ben Platt, but. Zero. Crazier things have happened.

It's crazier things have happened. Yeah. Like, remember Nick Vile? Who could forget the great Nickvile? Our origin. We're like literally our nemesis. For no reason. We like never even met him.

We just like didn't get a good vibes. We didn't like his character from the show. We were like so basic. Like he's the villain. Yeah. But he was. But he was. Did you see Sean Booth was on a podcast like talking about his beef with

McVile? Oh my God. No. But I have to say that like Sean Booth is my Roman Empire. Like I never moved on from Caitlin's season of the bachelor. Like I know they've been. both gone on. He's as a kid now. Caitlin's been in like two long-term relationships. Like, I know. Yeah. But like you're still there when like she was on his back at catch,

like doing their like post after the final rose press store. When she accidentally spoiled her own season on Snapchat, like you, kids these days think they know crazy reality TV. You don't know. And if you ever want to see like actual true love, like you have to go watch Sean proposing to Caitlin when he realizes that like she's already sent Nick Bile home. Like the release, It's crazy that they didn't end up together. Like, that is true love. And like, that was the best time to be a fan of reality TV. That was the best time to be the fan of The Bachelor.

Yeah. Yeah, that was real. You have to go watch your proposal. Like, because both guys, like, if you didn't watch a Bachelor, like, the final two would, like, go and propose and she would only say yes to one of them. And, like, most, more often than not, she wouldn't let the loser propose because, like, it's rude. So then the guy who gets out at the limo second, that's the guy who, like, won. but he doesn't know that guy number one

has already been sent home he could be guy number one and so she like sort of tells him and it's just it's actually chilling I have chills just thinking it's so beautiful meanwhile they fucking hate each other they had like a custody battle over their dog it was such a bad breakup

oh yeah oh yeah I thought you meant Nick and Sean also hated each other they did the two finalists but he was saying how like the beef was real, but it was also definitely, like, you know, people were in his ear. No, like, like, you know, being like, you've got to take down Nick this bad guy. Like producers were producing him to like make it bigger than it is. Now there's no beef.

But like at the time, like that was very real. And it was. A lot of the tropes about reality TV and like production, people setting you up, editors, is based in reality and rooted from the experiences people had on the bachelor. Like production, that was all the bachelor. It was so sinister. I do believe it's much better now. Jesse Draper was saying I'll call her daddy.

production, like they're so nice. Yeah. So you think Bachelor production is better now? Oh, no, no, no. I don't know what goes on there. I don't watch. But I mean, like, a lot of the reputation that people, like, and the understanding they currently have of reality TV and how you always think

like you're going to be set up and, like, people are going to trick you. That was happening on The Bachelor. And I don't believe it happens on shows a lot anymore. I think it's just, like, different, you know, especially like, I feel like those bachelor contestants are, like, so disposable to the producers. It's like, yeah, let's rearing your life. I never have to see you again. And, like, we need a good television.

Whereas on a show like Summerhouse, it's like, well, they won't come back if they, you know what I mean? Right. They have to like sort of like foster more of a relationship. Relationship. You can't just like discard them and set them up for one-time use. That's true. Like you're never going to see these contestants again. Yeah.

And you don't have to worry if they had a bad experience. Like great. So don't come on paradise. So don't come on paradise. All right. That's our show, Nalafi. Hope you guys enjoyed. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast.

Oh, I made it through by the way. I'm feeling okay. So if you see me tomorrow, I think I'm like out of the danger zone. Let's just one step at a time. One day at a time. I'm staying. If you see me like walking the streets in New York today, just know I can't go home. No, you can't maybe send them to a hotel.

So I am currently making up the office into like a little retreat for him because it has its own bathroom and it has a pullout couch, which is like all you need when you have notovirus. Doesn't have a TV, but he's not a big watcher of TV anyway. And like I can't be displaced from my bedroom. This is a great. tear. Yeah, actually. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, a millennium morning show. We've been to live the fast-sized stories that you need to do every Monday to Friday.

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