The Toast - Cackling Hags Back At It Again: Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Clodden, we're your host. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday that feels like a Monday. day but it also feels like a Friday because we're fucking celebrating bitch yeah that's right we're back i had a baby we survived maternity leave it's jackie i'm it's claude it's jack you're not gonna hear jackie today because i got a lot to say and not a lot of time to say it hey jacks we all have a lot to say today it's giving january 2nd like first day of the new year i don't know i thought you were going to say it's giving january 6 and it is because this insurrection day bitch we We're going to riot.

There's just a lot going on, much like there was on January 6th. And I feel like objectively for all the swirlies out there, there's a lot going on today. It's the first day back to work after Labor Day, after summer. So like it's really the first. It's like a January 2nd in its own way. It's a reset for a lot of people, not to center ourselves. Obviously there's a lot going on for us as well. Right.

But I'm experiencing like a complete reset just from summer, from coming home, from like unpacking, from coming back to toast. like I don't I can't remember the last time a day held so much in it as today no it's so true and do you also feel like a lot is also happening today like otherwise like I just like maybe it's because I don't normally wake up this early before work I've been up for hours doing feedings you know a million things I don't usually have a whole ass day before the chose but I've literally lived three lives already today no I know and that's toast motherhood for me I kind of love it and I might be like regretting saying this, but I do feel like once I get settled into a routine,

we're in the process of putting Ruby on a schedule, getting his naps and feedings like more routine. Thank you. I do feel like I could get to a place where I could start recording earlier. I felt that way in the spring. Today, just every, today, no, but honestly, maybe after the baby and everything, that is something that is in our future as a mother. just like early risers now.

So yeah, I'm a working mom. I fed maybe twice before getting here. I cried last night, but couldn't get out of the house fast enough. I just feel like that's so, you know, working mom. It's such an iconomy of working mom. It is. And I was hysterically crying to bed and like looking at pictures from when Ruby was born last night. And I turned to him and I'm like, just to be clear.

I had like, it's not in my nose, tears in my eyes. Just to be clear. Like, I don't want to stay at home. Like I don't want to be a stay at home. I like working. I like. And also, I don't want to be a Sam. I don't want to be a tom.

Not laughing at stay-at-home mothers, the real heroes. No, of course. I could seriously never fucking do what you bitches do. It is literally the hardest job in the world. Like, people think coal mining's hard. They've never been a stay-at-home mom. Laughing at the acronym. Just want to shout that out.

Some. Some. And. So I don't want to be. And I'm like, I'm really, I feel like we have the best jobs, like, knockwood, for being working moms. Like, we can make flex. schedules like I feel like I've really not been taking a lot of meetings for the next couple of weeks

like I'm just being so chill um but it's hard it like and I am not saying mine is harder than other people's like people's are harder than mine for sure like I'm just saying I had a tough morning okay no it's been a long morning and even though like this summer so I was like samming you know this summer because we weren't working but like really doing this show just like add so much joy joy and value to my life purpose like accomplishment achievement yes I I I I I really like the balance of it. 100%. And I just want to shout out to the toast.

And whoever is still listening today, like, we'll see. And shout out to us, honestly, for, like, building this. Yeah, no. Crushed it. Crushed it. And it really was, I know everybody, like, wanted to kill me for, like, being so indulgent, taking my three-month maternity leave, not the bitches in Canada being like, we have a year.

Good for you. Okay. You also live in Canada. So. What about that? Yeah, what a boot dat. What a boudat, eh? No, I'm kidding.

Sending so much love and light to our Canadian toasters, we are huge in Canada. I'm like, can't stress that enough. And we love you, dearly. They make up the majority of our global audience. They keep us global. I would say that they are the only part of our global audience, except we definitely have listeners in Israel.

And when toasters travel, they take us with them, you know? So then we have a listener in Africa. In Italy, yeah, of course, of course, of course. We're huge in Africa. What was I saying before this? Something important. So I was gone for three months, obviously not to make everything about myself. I'll probably never be gone for three months again.

Like obviously I want a God willing have more children. But when you're a business owner taking three months is like being extremely indulgent. And I won't do it again. But I do feel like I learned, I think like next time I'll be able to come back within like five or six weeks. Like I felt like a little bit back to myself. Again, we have flex jobs. So don't worry. It won't happen again.

And a lot of people are like, well, Jackie's about to have a baby. are we taking off another three months? No. No. Thankfully, I live with a permanent co-host. So it really is not hard for me. I don't have to book people. And I will be booking people,

Claude and friends. But I'll be having Ben and Margo, everybody in my town. And I live in New York. It's like a lot easier. So we'll be taking no time off for Jackie's maternity leave. Don't worry. We wouldn't do that to you.

Two leaves in one year. Yeah. No. And we've, yeah, there's always someone, but just the way that summer came and it. Yeah. Typically, you would have taken, like, say, two months. But to come back for August, like full force,

it's, August isn't a best. that it's a slow month it was my first you know time being a mother and i'm so glad i did it i had honestly an amazing maternity leave being with you for more than half of it and like getting to do my leave in the hamptons with my family like is so special like it was really but then also having that first month just like hunkering down in the trenches me and ben up every two hours yeah it was honestly i could not have asked for a better three months i'm so happy to be back though and also like I feel like I kept up with my job pretty sufficiently. Like we were turning out content between Jackson friends.

I came back on the podcast like once and then we did Patreon's. I feel like the listeners were fed. I was, you know, feeling fulfilled in both motherhood and work. And I'm just so fucking happy to be back, bitch. But you have to fill up all your cups, you know? Yeah, but you don't want them to run it over. That's actually not true. Like you do, God willing.

You do. Well, speaking of cups. Sure. Today's a big day, obviously, because we're back. But I'm also just like very last minute throwing together a plan to get to the U.S. Open because the craziest thing ever happened to be last night. Well, not to me, but like to us. The Spritz athletes.

Okay. So Ben comes and tells me yesterday. He didn't even tell me about these. Like, by the way, we sponsored a doubles team. And obviously, we're like a small company and we obviously are limited with what we can do. We can't be like Djokovic sponsors. But Ben was like, no, they're like this American duo. These young guys are super green, super new.

But they are really promising. And they're matches on. So we should watch it. I was like, oh, great. I had to download ESPN Plus because, again, like, it wasn't a premier match. They were playing against the Italian duo who are ranked number six. So it was like, obviously, these guys are going to lose, right? I bought ESPN Plus because I, again, needed to find the match.

It was $12. I'll be Venmoing Ben for that. Expensing sprits. And it was just like on in the background while we were watching, I mean, while we were like doing bath time, bedtime, feedings and stuff. And let me tell you, this match became so insane

that they put it on prime time. And not our American boys beating those Italian shits, okay? It was the most insane match. It was the most, like the biggest upset of the U.S. in, you know, doubles history,

they're saying, they are saying that. I was on the edge of my seat. These guys are so cute, first of all, 22 and 23. Everybody keeps jamming me if they're single. I don't know. Just message them.

Like seriously, personally. I have no idea. Slide in. It was the most excited I've like literally ever been in my life. They're playing and today. Me and Ben are going. So while obviously like I'm, you know, busy at work, I also, I got to get to the U.S. Open because I am a socialite and that's what socialites do. To see the boys playing again, another like big, you know, they're coming in as the underdogs. Yeah. But the power of Spritz compels them. The power of Spitz, but also the power of America because like, while they're not super known yet in the tennis community, everybody at the open was just cheering for them because it's America versus Italy.

like, it's America, bitch. Everyone was chitty. USA. And these guys, they're like college players who have gotten pro, and they're so college. They were, like, hyping up the crowd. Like, I thought they were seriously going to funnel a beer. Like, USA! U.S.

You mean a Spritz. Literally. Oh, and then, like, it was so cool. They got interviewed on, like, tennis TV, U.S. Open TV after they won. And, you know, like, Djokovic puts on his Rolex and his Lulu Lemon hat or whatever. Not them putting on their sprits hats. It was so exciting. Like, I was like, Ben, this is the coolest thing you've ever done.

Not us just like, you know, betting on these rando Americans. And look, crushed it. Crushed those Italian bucks. Yeah. I am excited to see what's in store for them today. So make sure to catch their match. So if you are a promising athlete who wants to be a Spritz athlete, maybe that could be you. Also, feel free to watch their match today.

It's Cash and Tracy. Those are their last names. I don't know who they're playing. Tracy. Tracy from Spidey and is amazing. Yeah. so like big things happening over in the business world and the sports world yeah the world just keeps on turning you know like everything's coming up toast everything's coming up spritz everything's

coming down good guys now that we're back yes yes good guys is over party good guys is over party even though like where i used to do my makeup in the house is next to the room where ben used to record good guys so i inadvertently have listened to so many episodes of good guys the future episodes it's good you know it's yeah it's good it's good ben has his sourdough journey. Oh, my God. Yes, Ben has started. Jackie was, you know, baking for us all summer.

Ben got the bug. That's nice of you to say. I really. Yeah, you actually didn't. I didn't. I'm sorry, I can't stand for longer than five minutes. We need to talk about, like, you being pregnant in just one minute. But yes, Ben started his sourdough journey.

He ordered a breadbox on Amazon. It arrived this morning, and it arrived unassembled. He was, like, wrenching together. It was seriously the craziest thing. He got the baskets. He got the blades. He got the spatula, the fold and serve, whatever. the starter is starting it's in the corner of our kitchen just like bubbling over in a mason jar

he facetied me last night to show me how much his starter had grown and that it was bubbling over and he didn't know what to do so it's like just put it in a bowl so it can bubble into the bowl and not on your counter and he took it away and there was starter on your wall he obviously cleaned it up but i just knew sure there's starter on my wall there's starter on the counters there's this is going to test your marriage also not that it matters because you're in an apartment building and you don't own so it's not your problem but make sure he's not pouring it down the drain because it like clogs the pipes like turns into like bread in the middle of your pipe oh my god it's not definitely did but i feel like you have strong pipes out there in the big city

yeah i'm not like a a small town pipes girl right right right she got big pipes having bread i just do think like ben's going to give up on it you know he loves to start things and not finish them No, and sourdough is a particular personality type. Mine, Taylor's, and not Ben's. So he's going to have to push himself to stick with it. And it's really like you have to give it a little bit of your time every day. Like you have to be very patient. That's not his style.

No. But I look forward. I think he loves sandwiches enough to make it his style. To persevere. To persevere through. But I do think, you know, the residual starter on the counter is going to test your marriage. A thousand percent. Although I have let go a little bit.

A lot of people want to know, Claudia, how are you doing with, like, the mess and the clutter of a baby? Now, let me just say I'm crushing it. My house has never been cleaner. But there is more stuff. It's not insane yet. But I've got play mats and bouncers and swings.

But do you find yet that the stuff is sparks joy? No. That plane mat doesn't spark joy when you see it. No. Knowing how happy little rue is on it. No. That bassinet doesn't spark joy. Oh, my God.

I got to get that bassinet in my fucking room. It really is just taking up too much space. but I'm doing great I just wanted to say now I want to talk about you really briefly because kind of headline news is that I'm no longer pregnant which personality wise I just feel like so back to myself I was just not myself as Kylie said but you are pregnant and I feel like we as women what I don't know what you're going to say but I'm laughing it's just so crazy like that we podcast like every day while pregnant nothing makes you more foul and in like a more disgusting fucking mood than waking up every single day like backache no good sleep heartburn and so you're

still going through that and I want to just like create a safe space for you like if you want to be in a I feel like I hid my bad moods as good as I could I definitely like if I go back I could see like me being in a bad mood I just want to like create a safe space for you you feel like you're in a good mood today and that's great but if you're not like that's okay I just want to say like I am having like it's been tough like yeah it's a tough one um We could do like a pregnancy update, Patreon, whatever, to talk about, you know, all the aches and pains. But what I love about the toast is that it forces me to be in a good mood.

Yes. Unless like it's extreme circumstances, like I'm not going to come on here and just be like a curmudgeon, even though I know that's like what people think I'm doing when I think I'm a right of life. Okay. That's so real. Like people are like, are you in a bad mood? And you're like, what are you talking about?

I've never been happier. I was thrilled to bits today. I've never ever been happier. But the toast like forces me to like be in a good mood, laugh with my sister. like talk about like fun subjects and I would I haven't been doing those things for months and like it does actually um affect your mental health positively in a positive fashion so like I'm actually I'm very grateful for it in this moment you know because otherwise I'd just be like sitting thinking about my pains and instead I'm cackling we're just a bunch of cackling hags today that's the

kind of energy you can expect title and I also think like moving forward how I'm going to like be different in this stage of my life when it comes to the toast I've obviously said it's going to affect dear toasters and I just want to let the DTQ know know it's Tuesday but it's our first day back

we have a lot to do dear toasters will be tomorrow and I promise it will be tomorrow just like gurg your loins it's going to be amazing but you didn't think it was going to be today right? Right I mean like there's

we're like 15 minutes in and we haven't even scratched the surface yet we haven't even caught up like what I've been doing since we left but I also think the approach I'm taking to the podcast like as this you know

I'm definitely a new person is going to be like very much I don't give a fuck you know like you guys You guys thought I didn't care before. Like, I really don't care. Oh, you have a problem with something I said? Cry about it.

Like, seriously, go cry about it. I just want to say, like, so good for entertainment value, so good for business. So good for business. Like, I, when you birth a child, like, not to be so condescending, when you birth a child, like, it just kind of puts things in perspective. And it just, at the end of the day, like, it's not that serious. You know what it never was? That serious.

It's just a podcast. So I feel like I have a whole new perspective on just being joyful. And I also know that like a lot of our listeners are sums and they need us more than we need them. Like I'm here for you, girl. It's just like it's just a podcast, you know. Let it rip. That's the motto for the end of 2025. Is it Q4 yet?

Like I feel like it feels like Q4. I'm glad you brought that up because I've been noticing a lot of people like, you know, bringing up their pumpkin spice content and ordering hot coffee and chai and pumpkins and things like that. And I feel like it started a week or two ago and everybody's rushing the summer away. While it's August, like I do not tolerate that type of internet behavior. And even into September, like, yeah, I'm wearing all white.

Labor Day was yesterday. What are going to do arrest me? Like, I don't like that. We still have two, three more weeks of summer. And I don't, I really don't like when people do that. Like they're rushing the summer away. We live for summer. What are you talking about?

Summer, summer. But maybe not everyone had a pargy summer. Like maybe they were ready to get to the next part. Maybe they were with their sister. I did have a party summer, but I am fat again. And so I'm not loving summer. Like I have chubber up again. Like all the problems I once had are back.

I sweat like an animal because I'm breastfeeding. Like I sweat more than the average person. So I get it. Like there are things about summer I don't like either. But we're just like rushing our lives away. You guys just chill. Yeah. I sort of just let the process happen to me organically.

Like I feel like soon I will feel. like entering fall. It sounds like you're going to let the chips fall where they may. Like I'm not craving a chili yet. Right, right. I don't want to go to home goods and get a bunch of fall accents. I'm actually-inspired dishes. I'm actually very much in a purge state because since we've come home,

I don't know if it's because this is my version of nesting right now, or because we just came home from a two-month trip where everything that's in this house, we did not need. Right. So when I see it, garbage. I'm cleaning up. I'm not cleaning. I'm garbaging.

It sounds like you lived with a sweeper for two months and maybe I rubbed off on you a little bit. No, it's really like the idea that we didn't need this for two months. So do we need it now? Garbage. It's a very interesting perspective, right? And I actually feel like maybe it is the manifestation of how I'm nesting in this pregnancy. I feel like last summer when I got back,

I felt inspired to go to home goods. That was like what I remember. Because I remember like the house we were in. and just have, like, so many, like, cute things, and I just wanted things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now I want nothing. Chilling.

Purge. Make it a quote card. But I also want to go shopping. Well, of course, of course. But you have to purge first before you shop. No, no, no, I have to. I'm not going to shop because then I'm just going to, like, I buy things that I, in six months I'm going to want to throw away.

So, yeah. We're doing nothing right now. I love that. And you know what? I'm very hormonal. Like, I can't be out there shopping. It's so true. She's a danger.

of a danger to myself and to others yeah you especially 1,000% watch out and there's also so much to talk about in the world of pop culture so if you're just tuning in

and you have been keeping up with us on Patreon we did a whole episode about Taylor and Travis's engagement I'm sure it'll come up today but if you're looking for like an in-depth analysis on the ring the photo carousel her outfit their you know future life together it's on Patreon it was a live stream it was so chaotic it was so crazy

And it was kind of the most fun I had all summer In addition to other content on Patreon We've been keeping up with pop culture on Patreon for the last eight weeks So it feels good that we don't have to like, you know, talk about Love Island finale Love Island reunion Did you watch Love is Blind? Did you finish UK season?

I didn't. I did. It wasn't sparking joy for me. I watched like the first six episodes. It wasn't, it just wasn't it for me. I enjoyed it. And there was definitely like couples that either didn't get married. Like it was exciting.

And then also couple couples did get married. And spoiler alert, they're no longer together. And that was like very interesting. Yeah. And I felt like actually, I don't know if anyone was like listening with a keen ear when I Recapped Love is Blind on the Patreon. But I nailed it. Wow.

Okay. So are you going to tell us or how are we going to do this? Well, I just feel like I was right about Cal and Serover. Like she's my queen right there. And I was like, if he wants to be good enough for her, great like I will like him too but like I just don't know that he is like I don't know that he's as locked in as she is and what she deserves she deserves the best literally couldn't that's exactly what happened okay he literally woke up one day it was like no so crazy so

crazy my faves Megan and Kieran still together like spark they're the happy of course of course they're the happiest people on earth and they found each other like I really like them how is that not going to work out what about Ashley and Billy they got married which was kind of surprising because you know he's very stringent and they had these issues and then also like calen sorover like three months later he just like ended it and he was like so calen sarova did say yes but then got but then got divorced yeah and same with billy and ashley and what's weird is like they both ended it like the day after new years um after it must be like a contract or something no they're like best they like talk to each other i think they were both like

feeling the same way like there's no spark and they like two idiots telling each other to like and their marriages to the greatest women that they'll let me and what about jet and varda she said no at the altar okay she said like not right now she was like I she was like I vow to do all of those things eventually yeah and so then when they finished the wedding they stayed dating and then they broke up but they only dated for three weeks and it was like weird and she was like so ached out by well I saw a picture of her at the reunion and she looks like an entirely different person yeah like glow up of the century yeah she definitely like hit the oh oh that thousand percent love that for her love that for her and she's so jealous she moved to Dubai after

she broke up with Jed like three weeks later and she never came back okay caroline stanberry yeah yeah okay so she's doing well and then katisha and javin they broke up did you watch yeah right right um it was just weird to watch she was just like very like i really was rooting for her but yeah she was she was like so forgiving of i i didn't get get it. I didn't get her energy towards him. None of hate. I haven't been watching a ton of TV because I've been like such a tennis girlie just as for Ben Shelton. And so yeah, I'm going on the match today. I don't know if I brought that out. I can't wait to have a honey juice because last summer I went to the U.S. Open and I was like so skinny so I was obviously conscious of the

fact that like they're 200 calories each. And so I like sipped one. No, I'll be having like six tonight. I'm also breastfeeding. So like the liquor doesn't really hit me. God, you're a tank. I'm a tank. So tank mode. I will be. If you see me. And you know, at the U.S. Open, it's like you have the honey juice is the official cocktail of the U.S. Open. And it's like a thing, they come in these really cute cups with all the winners on them. And when you drink them, you like stack them, like a frat boy, like just to count how many you've had. So if you see me at the U.S. Open today with like the tallest stack of honey juices you've ever seen in your life. Just, no, you don't.

Stacks on stacks. Just stay away. Like I'm on a journey. Understood. Well, we're excited to see content. What are you going to wear? I don't fucking know because I'm so bad. You can wear where you're wearing now.

I know, but it's hot. Pallianti. I literally would. I found out that we were going. The first thing I did was I plugged in my portable fan. Like I will be needing it and I'll be bringing a backup charger. Maybe an updo. Definitely a claw clip in my purse, you know? Yeah. The tennis swags. They love the claw clip. And I got to bring my pump. It's like a whole thing living the house. Oh. So I'd be gone a while. You can't skip one. I might be gone for two. Like it's a long thing. Are you driving your car?

See, I don't know. Like logistics. I might need to drive my car because of my pump. Like how embarrassing am I you need the LV don't you have I have I have a portable pump the will I go and can't yeah I'll just like bring my case with me it's like what do you got there oh just my portable pump but it's okay like I've seen like page in the girlies they have like big bags it's not a micro bag thing like you could bring a tote I might need to bring one yeah you've got cute toats yeah tons go shopping okay oh I guess I guess I guess now. I guess. Pop culture. The story's actually really good and we're going to rip them to shreds. Yeah, of course. I absolutely need to talk about the atrocity trade wreck that is Fifth Harmony. So I guess

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Fifth Harmony reunited for a surprise performance at Jonas Brothers concert in Dallas on Sunday. So the girls, not Camilla, are back together. Fifth Harmony consisted of Normani, Ali Brooke, Dina Jane, and Lauren Geregui, and they hit the Doseki's Pavilion to perform their hit songs, work from home, and worth it at the Jonas Brothers concert. Well, Camilla Cabello was not there physically. She was there in spirit because their backing vocals are all commemorative. She, you know, is, was the, I would say, the vocal lead of the band.

And this just, okay, so Ben has been obsessed with the Jonas Brothers tour. Tor. They've been crushing it. They've been doing like real, like, millennial con. It's just like a festival for millennials. It's like nostalgia con. Yes. And that's, you know, Ben's obsession with like when they brought out, um, the Click Five.

Yeah. Just the girl I'm looking for. Like, he was not okay. Every time they have a concert, we wake up in the morning. He's scrolling his phone. He shows me who was there. So he was like, Fifth Harmony. And it didn't really do it for him.

But he doesn't know, like, before Ben met me, I was the biggest Fifth Harmony fan. Nobody was more on the Fifth Harmony train. Lylos, what do you know about Lylos, their original band name? I watched them on X Factor. I followed them religiously on YouTube before they became a band. So I feel like I know everything about, everything there is to know about Fifth Harmony. And if you were there for like their band, their time is a band, the five of them, then you know how truly unique it was.

And bad, all that to say. Like, they had, really, they just had Camilla. And she really shouldn't have ever been placed. That was like a Simon Cowell. They, it was just like a, she never should have been with them. She was so supremely talented. Every time they performed together, all the judges critique was like, you bitches can't keep up with Camilla.

Like, it was really awkward. And it's amazing to see that nothing has changed. And the only thing that really changed since then is that like Normani had all this hype and promise she was the next Beyonce, motivation, the album. And she also kind of went. What is happening? What is going on? And then nothing happened.

What is happening? Oh, nothing. So it was really crazy to see her with them because she, like Camilla, she had something going on after Fifth Harmony. But I guess nothing really was going on. So this is sort of like an admission that it's over. That the train has stopped. Now, if you watch a performance, like it was giving classic Fifth Harmony messiness.

Like choreography. The choreography was there. execution. The cohesion was not. Like they were all doing different. They were doing the same dance, but it was a different dance to each of them, you know? The outfits were so turned. The vocals were good. The vocals were good, but that was because they had like Camilla Cabello singing background. They were like, coming on a track. I wasn't hearing like live vocals. Not saying that they didn't sing, but like what I heard was like there was a lot of background. And I think people were really excited about this on its face. Like fifth harmony back together. Jonas Brothers. They crush it again. Nostalgia con. Here we go. When I heard. When I heard. that Fifth Harmony was coming back together. I watched a video and there was like a smoky fog and silhouettes showed up. I'm like, is it four or five silhouettes? Because it makes a difference in what we're about to see. Yeah, no, but like I'm just saying like on paper, like it's a sleigh.

Fifth Harmony Renewanek, even without Camilla. That's like, of course, you know, wonder, like, fine. Even without Camilla, Fifth Harmony Reunited, they perform the hits. These aren't some of the greatest songs ever written. Yeah. It's a sleigh, right? Work from home. But then when you get down into it, it's a nay.

No, Lauren Horan. Maggie had like the biggest rip in her tights like it was such a mess there this band this band is cursed like they are cursed they are unable to do anything successfully like everything they do is just a mess yeah a train wreck you literally cannot look away yeah and they were doing that choreography I was like crawl what is going on and I think like you know up until Sunday like you could have said like fifth harmony they had a great run They had a great run. They had amazing songs.

They did. And they did so many hits. If you were very close to it, like you knew the messiness. But from afar, like it looks like just like a successful girl band, one of the best of the 21st century. It was kind of like a Monet, you know, from far away, it looked fine. And then you got up close and you were like, oh, no, this is just a bunch of dots. But them coming back together and reminding us in 2025 that it's a mess. Like how bad they are.

I think it's like bad for their stock. And they're not good, like, collaborators, you know, like with the Jonas Brothers. Like, it was just, I will say, of all the things to Jonas Brothers, and I said this on the Patreon, and it bears repeating, because I've cloned on the Jonas Brothers a little bit. I feel like for so long, they were, like, really hesitant to lean into what they are and what their fan bases, which is, they have amazing new music, but it's a lot of nostalgia. And I think they're so leaning in now, and it's really working for them. They're just like being themselves.

And the guests that have come out, most of them, have been nostalgic. Some of them have been like Kelsey Ballerini was there, like current pop. Russell Dickerson. This is the first one that just was a flop. But it gave us so much content that like it wasn't a flop. No, they wouldn't even consider it a flop because it's like it's a great

headlines, it's great news. It's just like when you actually watch it. And it doesn't reflect poorly on the Jonas Brothers. Like they weren't up there shaking that thing. Like this was up to the girls. When you, you know, get down to brass tacks, all I see is the rip in Lauren Heraggy's leggings.

Allie Brooke and I love her. She just cannot keep up choreographically. And I just feel sadness for Normani for what could have been. But I also feel justice for Dinah Jane because when Ben and I were talking about this last night, I sent him on a rabbit hole. I made him watch their first performance together as a band at Simon Cowell's house in front of Mark Anthony, where like Mark Anthony cannot believe how good of a singer Camilla Cabo is. I made him watch anything could happen cover. And then I also made him watch Lego House cover. And, like, if you know what I'm talking about, you know.

And he was like, wow, Camilla's so good. But honestly, justice for Diana Jane. When we were all, like, young, Diana Jane was just like, like, she was just, like, not relatable. And I don't think, like, her singing abilities ever really got highlighted. But she's actually an amazing singer. Yeah. I think for Normani, she had a good performance, like, because she is a talented. Yeah.

She's talented. But the fact that she was even there, it didn't matter what she did on the stage. The fact that she got on the stage in that context just marks the end. I think we're going to call it. Of Normani. We're going to call it on Normani. It's true. We're calling it on Normani.

Can we call it and say that she's not the next Beyonce? We can. We can. We can. Now, I think there's also a lot of discourse on whether Camilla should have showed up or not because Camilla is also like relatively flopping. She had a really, really strong solo career for a few years. Havana like the biggest songs Grammy, Grammy, Grammy.

And then she dyed her hair blonde and things just went south. And I don't think she's really been like turning out hits. But I don't think she's. even close to fall in as far as to getting back together with her turt bandmates. No, and when I think about Camilla, the way that I see her, and I know she just put out an album that I'm sure wanted to perform well and it didn't. But I do feel like she walked away from a lot of what she, the success she was experiencing.

Like, I feel like it wasn't just that she was dropped like from by fans and, you know, people stopped caring about her. I felt like she needed, it felt like a choice. That's how I see it. And now she wants to come back and it's hard to get back in the game. It is. But I don't think she's like someone that's like so thirsty to be the number one girl in this group. I don't think it was for her.

But the crazy thing is, and she doesn't get enough credit, Camilla Cabello is one of the top vocalists of our generation. I would say she's on the same level. I know you're going to say I'm crazy as Ariana Grande. She has the most amazing voice. And she doesn't get enough credit for that because she's like flopping and she dyed her hair blonde, which she never should have done. Yeah. She reminds me a lot of Katie Perry. oh like where a haircut just sort of like ruined everything i don't think of the haircut

i think it was like you know those walks with sean mendez the walks with sean mendez i forgot about those like when i think about like where it all changed those walks but i love you when you call me sen yaddi that like she had so many hits havana the biggest songs of all time havana the biggest songs yeah and now where is she i don't know actually I saw she's on tour she did a cover of nothing's fine I'm torn I'm all out of faith let me tell you was most amazing cover she's like a Kelly Clarkson

she covers a song and absolutely like makes it her own that's really beautiful I'm happy for the Jonas Brothers because this is like in the tour in this day and age like this is what you want people waking up every morning saying what happened at the concert last night surprise song you would think like bringing out special guest Taylor did it in 1989 like old news but the way that they're doing it they got it down they must be thrilled to bits.

Can I say you also inspired me because when we were together in the Hamptons, you said, like, one of my goals is like, I want to go to more concerts. Like, concerts make me so happy. I love concerts. And I was like, yeah. And especially now, like, I need to really make the most of my nights out, you know, after bedtime. So I'm going to go to Lady Gaga. She's doing like six nights

in the city, and I think the last two are this week. And I'm going. Do you think that you are familiar enough with? I am. What's that album called? Monster House? Oh, with Mayhem. Mayhem. Yes, I looked up the set list, too, and she's doing, like, it's, because she did a residency

in Vegas, it's very much, like, encapsulates her entire discography, and she plays the hits from Mayhem, and of course I know them, you know, disease. But she does a surprise song, and in the last New York show, she did You and I, which means, like, I'm not going to get you and I. I'm like, I want to kill myself. I fucking, like, that song, oh, my God, if you give me a shot of tequila and a karaoke bar, like, you're going to get the show of a lifetime. Or so you think until you.

watch the video back the next day. So fucking true. Sit sit back down where you belong in the corner of my bow with your high heels on. And she was like obviously being so Lady Gaga. So Stephanie Germanada like, wait, she's like, something, something about New York City. Like she was eating so nutty. It was amazing. She's so crazy.

She's nuts. You forget. But we have to remember that. Yeah. When you talk about her. Yes. you have to look at it through the lens like okay if a normal person was doing this i would say a but it's lady gaga and she's certifiably crazy so we have to say b and she's like a crazy artist

but she's a genius so you she's a genius yeah no you just you can't like put normal people like the way you talk to your bestie right to about lady gaga it's true special gloves special gloves are you ready for our next story yeah little weddings news because jason kelsey is talking about the engagement and he's hoping to be Travis's best man at the wedding so he said trav has a lot of friends so he's a little worried about his spot as best man but he said hopefully i'm the best man we'll see trava's a lot of friends i'm just hoping to get the opportunity so he went on a podcast buss in busing with the boys and talked a lot about taylor and travis's relationship the podcast with new heights the engagement like how happy he is for

travi he's so glad is travi made it to the big game and it was really beautiful really really beautiful. I love how much they love podcasts. Like, I cannot trust enough what they've done for the medium is really beautiful. And it got me thinking, obviously, when he said Travis has a lot of friends. It's obviously a joke. Like, he's going to be the best man. But where does someone like Travis go on a bachelor party?

Like, for real? I feel like actually Travis will have an easier. Like, where does someone like Taylor go on a bachelor party? Because I feel like for Travis, as long as he's boys and got his beers and got his son. No, no, I think it's harder for Travis because Taylor's like not going to go on a bachelor's party.

She's going to like have all of her friends over for the weekend to her Rhode Island house and they're going to like make sourdough. Like Taylor's not like a party girl. Like Travis like he's a football beer and like golf. I feel like they're going to go to like Baker's Bay that island in the Bahamas.

Yeah. I think so too. Where like famous people go. I like in Cabo. Oh yeah. I asked you that question because like I just wanted to put my prediction out there for where they're going to go. And I think Taylor's going to do something really low key

like a girl's night at one of her houses. No. She needs to do more than that. Like Hame and the Swirlies. And then we'll really be able to know who her friends are. Yeah. Because Kelly Taylor probably will not be there. Like Lively, probably will not be there.

It'll be like Salina, even though Taylor didn't go to Selena's match at party this weekend. Selina, Hame, that girl Ashley, like. Kara. Cara, yeah, Kara's tried and true. Yeah. I think she'll do more than that. And I think that she should. This is worth celebrating.

Plus, she like kind of likes to get down. Well, she does love a cocktail. Yeah. Like, why can't she go to Cabo with the girls? Because, like, she can't go anywhere. Even though, like, lately, she's been so regular, Degular. I actually saw a picture. She went out to dinner with Britney Mahomes at a restaurant in Nashville. Like, no private room. Like, just dinner. It was Britney's birthday. Oh, happy birthday to Britney. Yeah. So she turned 30. Mazzletove.

Oh, my God, it's crazy. She has three kids. Yeah. That's so crazy. So I think, I think Jason will be the best man, especially because he has, many friends because when you have so many friends you can't pick one let's do the brother but if i had just one best friend i think jason is good okay jason by the way and don't forget austin taylor's brother that's like when you get married you have to like he'll be on a bachelor party you know yeah i think that like that'll also make him a best man as like a sign of you know family that i should know now that i see your brother as my brother but i also is it enough the way that we're talking and

the world is talking about like Taylor and Travis. I feel like when they first got engaged, it was like just an engagement. But now it's like road to wedding. Yeah. There's a difference. Some people get engaged and it's like, well, we don't ever expect you to have a wedding.

Like it just feels like a performative. Yeah, we're just like kind of a dead end. Like it's like a nice thing. But like it's not about getting married. It's about getting engaged. Kind of like Demi and that guy Max. Your boy, Max. Yeah, your boy Max.

But like this really feels like everyone's talking about the wedding. Even Jason. no it's really and i know people are going to say i'm so crazy and delusional it is the closest thing in america that we have to like a royal wedding and it's so crazy that it won't be televised like how the royal wedding in the uk is because we deserve it like it should be on cbs well she should like partner with disney plus or hulu or whoever she's working with and like give us a docu series about the wedding she should but taylor maintains like it's just one of her like core tenants that her private life remains private, you know?

Like that's not something she's willing to give up. Of course she should. That's in her philosophy, like before Travis. Like this is just, everything's different now. She could bring in her own, like, videographers. Just like you have a video at your wedding. Yeah. And just, like, bring us in.

Everyone is so excited. Like, unprecedented excitement. I think that people deserve it. And the world needs it. It's literally too much. Like, I don't know what to do with myself. Yeah. No, it's just so unprecedented, you know.

Sabrina should be at the bachelor's party. Breaney. Yeah, she'll bring the penis straws. Can we talk about? She'll bring the penis. She'll bring the strap on. She's so fucking crazy. I was listening to her new album, which I have to say I love.

I've been seeing hate for it and like you're not going to hear it for me. Like that song, Go Go Juice. Like, I'm just like shaking my titties. Like it's so good. But I was listening to the song, Tears. And I just had to clutch my pearls. And I'm not really like a prude person. Are you Tommy from Arkansas?

literally like i was when she was like my thighs are crying tears i was like oh my god and then she says something about like giving head i'm like oh ma'am i never i was just shook i'm not saying it's good or bad i'm just saying i was personally shook i have been sounding the alarm on ronchy bream for a while like i know that like that she has this in here and and she wants to do more of this like i didn't she's always been about like innuendo but you know what there are only so many ways that you can no it's true she's dropped the innuendo and she's just being extremely direct in clear like hey sex you know clitoris penis like she's being really crazy i've i've started the album a couple times but i've just like been distracted so i haven't finished it and so like i haven't

had my faves yet like i haven't finished exploring it so i don't have anything to share yet but um brini's being brining she's being very like direct that if if you find it to be too much or you find it to be like too explicit like go fuck yourself yeah no she's like standing her love island people would say like 10 toes down standing on business she's not and I really do respect people who like say what they mean and mean what they say and just because there's backlash oh I'm sorry like no I like that even it's not like how I would choose to write a song I like people who like stand on business I guess that's what the kids say like she's not backing down or she's just doubling down like no this is what I wanted to say and I'm saying it yeah even if it like splits my audience in

half and I'm going with this half like okay so there we are in this day and age it's aware that somebody like gets backlash and isn't like I'm sorry like no she's like oh well that sucks sorry like too bad she's going to be the artist she wants to be I respect that so let's see I haven't I can't call it yet like where I stand on the other I know people are very curious because I'm very much a pearl clutcher and I'm very much a breener stand bringer yeah what happens to me do I go by the way of Tommy from Arkansas am I Tommy from Arkansas stay tuned jacks from Florida stay tuned. Are you ready for our next story? What number is it? Number three. So you got to be ready. Yeah. Harry Styles and Carapods well break the internet after being photographed together at a

wedding. So there was a big wedding this weekend. It's funny because the grooms were not famous. So everybody has very slowly been piecing together. Who the grooms are. Who, when, where, why, how? And it's like, I saw a post from Derek Blasberg and I was like, oh, this is the wedding. Aaron Foster was out. Like, I was connecting all the dots just from people I follow. And I finally realized like the big picture. Derek Glassburg's Carousel added a lot of color. Understood. So Charles Porch and Robert Denning got married this weekend and they...

Charles Porch is like a big important person at Instagram and the other groom is a very important person at the Met Museum, Met Gala. So they have a lot of friends in high places who showed up for their wedding. It was a star-studded affair. Including Harry Stiles, which is Mage and Carol Radzwell, which is Mee. that he happened to help her walk up the stairs and there's this photo going viral of Harry and Carol. Was it Derek Blasberg's carousel where this photo originated and the story behind it in the caption? I believe it was, no? Cassandra Gray wrote it.

She said, I saw Carol Raddwell struggling to get her rather large GM Batista Valley Paris dress up the grand stairwell. Naturally and quickly, I managed to get my iPhone out of my dinner clutch to document what could have been fashion Parisian castle roadkill. Oh, my God. A stranger to Carol and I, a handsome Harry style, seemingly out of nowhere, graciously lent her his arm like Cinderella's prince. Is this girl a writer? Like, she is a writer there? Is this?

Because you know, Jenna Lyons was there also with her wife, whose name is Cass. Okay. Is that who this is? Let's Google. Because I imagine that like the Bravo swirlies would be together. You think? But there's from, I guess, yeah, maybe for. The same franchise.

She is the founder of Violet Gray. a luxury beauty retailer. Oh, so no, that's not her. Okay. It's just crazy. And let me tell you something about Cassandra Gray. She is a good fucking friend. Because, like, no one would believe Carol Radzwell.

Like, Harry Styles helped me up the stairs with my dress. Like, sure, grandma, let's get you back to bed. But the fact that this woman snapped a photo, like, she's such a good friend. Like, if that was me, if I was Carol, I would be kissing. And then it becomes a worldwide story because you posted it. Not only did you take it, but you posted it so I don't look thirsty. Like, yeah. This woman, Cassandra, is.

queen yeah she's a real one big time yeah no that's hysterical really funny worlds colliding and by that carroll looked great carol also made a return to watch what happens live while we were on maternity leave and it shook the bravo community by storm because like there was definitely bad blood between her and and Andy took uh bethany's side at the reunion and then she like yelled at Andy and they got fired the next week um which is awkward because they were friends before housewives and it was just like awkward um but it seems like there was a a rapprochement and that's great That's great. Lovely.

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I understand. You don't get the ad break like. I do. Oh, Slay. Napping. Napping. Sleep and plain. Fourteen minutes ago. Love that. King. On his king of shit. New couple news, allegedly. Scooter Ron and Sidney are rumored to be dating after being spotted together in Italy. Star magazine is reporting this. Everyone is picking it up and no one has come out to deny it. I know. It's just tough because a celebrity, being with another celebrity in Europe over the summer, means nothing.

Like they all go, they're all on boats, they're all at clubs, and then like they just like connect with one another because they're famous. Like it doesn't mean much. If I saw them together in the States, I would feel a lot differently. However, videos are resurfacing from the Venice Sanchez Bezos wedding weekend. Where they both were in attendance. They were both in attendance. There was like a day of shopping out in the streets of Venice and a bunch of like stars went walking together, including like Sydney, Carly, Scooter, Orlando. But they're lost in the mix because there were so many people.

No, I think that's, if they are dating now, that's where they met. And now it's been like two months. So now they would be like dating more seriously. Or they just know each other because they went shopping together at that wedding one time, you know? Yeah, but like where are these rumors of dating coming from? And no one's coming out to dispel it. She doesn't then get seen with Glenn Powell to be like, you know, using him again to be like, I'm single. I don't know.

I just like, I mean, I said this about Taylor and Travis too. So like, seriously, don't take anything I say seriously. I just don't feel like they're dating. I don't believe it because it's like almost too good to be true I think it's such a cute couple and I would ship so hard she's so like every time she does something

it's just like not what you think she's gonna do I just think she dates weird people so like her dating like a handsome billionaire is like too obvious you know like no I think I'll go for like an ugly homeless person you know she dates like the weirdest people and she's Cindy Sweeney right so you would think like the hottest she would date like Harry Siles

like the most obvious person she will not she will not date Harry Styles. But she goes rogue. So I think this wealthy businessman, like, makes too much sense for her. Yeah. Well, she does like a business man. She does. She does. She does. Fiance. I don't know if there was wealth attached to it. So maybe she was like, okay, I like someone who works in business.

But I want. But maybe this time their business could be successful. I want the money part. Right. Don't we all? Sister, get in line. I think it's cute. I hope it's true. I don't know if they're OTP, but like for summer fling like that's hysterical it's a cute summer fling I feel like there was a brief period this year where we talked about cindy's like dating life extensively when she was in the process of calling off her wedding and I said it then and I'll say it again and I don't want to repeat myself but like seriously until she does something it's there's always speculation it's like Glenn Powell would have been great but it was just fake and not real like annoying um this

I don't know if it's real the only real one I know is Covino and Barnes whatever his name Jonathan Delino. Is that not what I said? No, it's the same. Tomato tomato. Until she, like, confirm really does something exciting. Like, I can't, I can't wait for her.

Waiting for you is, like, waiting for rain in this drought. Yeah, so you just don't want to, like, get excited or upset. I don't want to get on board. And the one time I did get on board with Glenn Powell, like, it was so fake. Yeah. Yeah. That's another one. I need Glenn Powell to date someone, like, staff.

yeah what's he up to he was like at a college football doing football wearing a christian use check jersey he looked really hot like why don't you just like bring a girl with you you know like a hot one i hate when people like don't have girlfriends yeah yeah well he was in a relationship for a long time but it's time now so i agree that i like that he didn't like jump right into something new and even with the city sweety thing i was like well this is cute but he did just break off i think they were engaged or like they were engaged to be engaged it was like a really serious relationship so i like that he didn't jump it to somebody so quickly but okay like let's go yeah yeah yeah Well, we'll see what happens.

Like, time will tell. Yeah, just like all things. Our fifth and final story is a little big fashion news because... Okay, just a couple of fascists. The new editor of American Vogue has been selected, allegedly. Anna Wintour is tapping Chloe Mow as the new editor of American Vogue. So this hasn't been officially announced, but everyone is reporting that she is next in line. And when Anna stepped down, this is like who people were saying was the next one.

So I feel like it's all but confirmed. Yeah, it feels like, right? A little, I guess surprising because she's younger than I would have thought. But I think Anna started this job at a similar age. And it's a job that you grow into. Right. It's a job you have for a while. And I think they could desperately use someone young.

I feel like it's felt like the magazine was run by old people for quite some time. And there's a really very delicate way to like blend new and old. and sometimes people go too hard and it's like, why is Vogue being so Gen Z? So hopefully she's got that magic touch. She's also a Nepo Baby, which I find more interesting. Her mom is Candace Bergen. Yeah.

Who is, I know her as his congeniality. She's the pageant master. Everyone knows. Everyone's seen her in at least one thing. She's a famous actress. She's in everything. She's also on Watch Shop and Live all the time. She also plays a Vogue editor in Sex and the City.

Yeah, which is just kismet. And I think she herself. is a nepo baby as well so it's just like a multi-generational thing yeah and then her dad is a director for miss mall um which she would explain how she got into vogue in the first place but not like i think at this point you don't get to be the next at a winter by being nepo like there's probably got her job there who are born high born her job for being nepo but she i would say she earned it yeah she's been working at vogue since 2011 she started it's like a social editor oh social media editor like okay uh so yeah no i actually i i don't know her at all i don't know like what her taste is or whatever

but just on its face i think this is a great choice one because it's a choice we're not picking three people who will be interim editor-in-chiefs and then in five years who did jena end up choosing nobody right who's oh no one yet right the today show right so i think and hoota hooda i'm cracking up i'm watching too much love island hoda hoda left in december yeah okay like that's nuts give me a choice I love a choice. This person is obviously qualified. She has the chops. It's very similar to Anna's own career.

And I think it's really great. The only thing that was interesting was for a second people were saying that Victoria Beckham was up for it and that she would be a good fit. And I would have loved to see that. Same, but I don't think you can become an editor of a magazine if you've never worked at a magazine.

Like I do feel like that's just kind of like a bare minimum requirement. And while I love her and like she knows a lot about fashion i do think there's more to the job than that i agree i agree with that um but that also she would be like british vogue no she would be amazing and the one hand yes you need to know the business of a magazine but she does no business she has her own companies and she could learn maybe she's a quick study but you just need impeccable taste for this job like the best taste in the world which i think she has it just would have been really fun but i'm i'm not i didn't expect it i agree

that's really crazy yeah could you imagine to go from a spice girl to the editor in chief of vogue and i don't know if we talked about it on the patreon but the beckham peltses renewed their vows and only the peltses were invited so like things are worse than ever no it was really crazy they couldn't have had a bigger wedding more recently and they had to have like another wedding it's a little wasteful not to be like such a nark but it is kind of and also like weird like it's weird to renew your vows especially with it less than, I'm going to say, 20 years of marriage.

The vibe that I got was that Nicola feels Victoria ruined her wedding, so they redid it. And she wants everyone to know that, which I don't love. She posted a million pictures of her family at the affair and no... The rumors have been swirling. No one confirms anything that the wedding, the

wedding was the big Braggis, Victoria ruined the wedding. And it's cooler. It's all speculation. It's all cooler when no one says anything. You don't air your dirty laundry. Like these are all like important wealthy families like it's just like ugly and so for her to do that it's just like really confirming everything that we think and I just feel like they're all better than that like let us wonder and I just saw something funny that Chloe Grace from Retz got married yes and I completely forgot about her but didn't she date Brooklyn Brooklyn Beckham for like a really long time yeah

she married a woman I saw she wore blue she wore blue the comments were ripping her up but like if she wants to wear blue like wear blue bitch do you think she was going to wear white um i actually would have she's like a louis baton face she's like a very fashionable girl so like i just would assume she wore like a yeah a white wedding dress but she's like she's like she's like she has to be different you know um different and i actually felt like the the color of the blue like of course i'm a person who's going to encourage people wear white to their wedding like but i thought like the color of the blue was like really nice and i was like not offended by her choice like I was happy for her and she seemed happy and that worked for me.

So if like if it works for me, like I don't know how anyone else have a problem with it. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Like what are you complaining about? I'm fine. I'm a tough cookie. Speaking of cookie, what are you going to have for lunch? I hadn't given it any thought yet, honestly.

And I feel holy, I feel wholly unprepared for lunch. What about you? I don't know, but I'm definitely feeling like a cookie will be a part of it. I need Hardy. Yeah, no, of course. Oh, I'm so unprepared. I don't have sourdough. I didn't place in order for anything to arrive.

Like, I'm going to starve. I just think I'm going to make myself like a pargy lunch. I feel like as a working mom, I need to be like making good lunches. You know what I mean? Yeah. Are you going to pack lunch? No, ew. Like whatever I pack would be disgusting and then I would open it up.

I know if I ever like attempted to pack lunch. By the time, lunchtime rolled around and I opened this like lunche. I'd be like, who am I kidding? Like, no, I think I'll go out. No, I feel like there's a way to do it right. Well, first of all, I don't like my food's touching, so I would need, like, a different box for everything. A bento box.

No, no, but like, I don't want them in the same airspace either. I need multiple bento boxes. Fragrance is real. Yeah, of course. Fragrance is real. But there are things that pack nicely. Like, I, you're going to vomit, but I, like, pasta salad. I think that would be really nice in my bento lunch box.

Not like macaroni salad, but like, you know, like pesto pasta, like cold pasta. Jackie, I'm not stupid. I know what pasta salad is. But, like, you didn't have to go cross-side. But you're not, like, suggesting that I pack a pasta salad, are you? Sorry, I was centering myself and saying what would sound good in my benter box. Yeah, I would, my bento box would be a little different. There would be, like, an uncrustable.

It would be like RFK's nightmare, an uncrustable. It would be, like, a turdy, lunchable. Yeah, but by the way, you don't need a box for that. It all comes in packages. You just need a plastic bag. You know, I'd leave the bag. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, everything I need is, like, individually wrapped.

But, like, Ben, make you like a turkey sandwich with his new bread. Yeah, but I feel like now, I feel like as a working mom, I'll be going home for lunch. That's nice. That you had to nurse. Correct. And then back to work. I'm actually going back to work this afternoon.

We're recording Redheads today, I think. I haven't finished the book yet. Stay tuned. That's so great. Stay tuned for updates. Well, things we did. That. I had a blast.

I had the. time of my life and I know it's only an hour and 10 and people are going to be like that's so short but I do want to get it up I want to get people like back on routine yeah I completely agree an hour 10 is like not so short so and we got done everything we needed to get done we didn't dilly dally I feel good and like let's deliver this episode we hit the main points correct all other like TV recaps your toasters can come throughout the week yeah of course I need to finish a summer I turned pretty so like we'll do that I've been watching real house size of Miami because we started it together so whenever I like have some downtime and I was

like procrastinating, picking up the Redheads book. I was watching Real House as in Miami. Love that. So one day I'll tell you what I think. Thank you so much for listening to the shows. Monday morning, show we'd love with the fast ice stories. You need to know everybody on YouTube. So if we're watching us on YouTube.

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