The Toast - Cancelled with Brooke Schofield: Wednesday, May 8th, 2024

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. At all. I was already, I came in ready to fight you on this because I, well, here's the thing. Knowing me right now is just not a good thing because. Don't say that. No, I am ignoring every person in my life so heavy. I love that. I'm not even looking at my phone. I can't because it's like, I just feel like if I look at it, then I have to respond. Address it. So I just was ignoring everything.

And that unfortunately at some point included you. But I got bullied. All my friends from home literally put me in a group chat and they were like are you fucking stupid well i was coming from a place of insecurity because i literally reached out to jake shane who we both know and i was like listen please help me get brooke on the toast i'm coming to the l to la to do a week of toast shows and he was like sure no problem so easy put us in a group chat i was like fuck yes literally a year ago i came to la and i did a week of episodes and i texted my friend josh peck and i said can you please put me in a group chat with tana Mongeau I really want her on the podcast

put me in a group chat and you two literally did the same thing Tana was like oh fuck yes let's do it and I was like hey Tana turn here like let me know what day works and she never answered and I was like you know what I'm not letting Brooke go so I used my platform and I said where are Brooke's home friends and Brooke's home friends got to you And I just want to say shout out to the home friends. They did. Shout out Sarah and Allie. They got me on here. And I was always going to come on.

I just didn't, I didn't understand the sense of urgency. And now that I know that you do an episode a day, I realized that you were just really on top of your stuff, which I'm not. I'm incredibly annoying. And I own that. But at the end of the day, I'm sitting down with Brooke Schofield.

The listeners know you're coming on. They're so excited. You are just a marvel. Like if I didn't like you so much, I would be jealous because you're living the dream, you know, like viral TikTok, everything. And I need to start at the beginning because and I did a good amount of research on you, but I really wanted to hear from you. Like it really feels for me as a huge Internet consumer, like you just blew up like a couple of months ago. is the journey what is the timeline i feel almost the opposite of that i feel like it's been a very like slow burn but i think maybe just just right now like everybody else is starting to notice see it but um the

podcast i've had since i think we started it in 2022 okay and that's where i started social media i never really did social media before then and so everything has come from that literally you host it's a podcast it's called cancel with tanamoja which is why i brought her up um how did you two meet we met at a party okay and i knew who she was obviously because she's a huge legendary yeah she's legendary and i would like i saw her in everyone's videos i followed her already on instagram so like i knew her. But we just hung out at that party. And after that, we were good friends for life. And your podcast is really, I feel, it's so interesting.

It reminds me of your dynamic. A lot of me and Jackie, who I usually host the show with, she is so different than me. And you and Tana feel so different. And I think that's why it's like a magical connection. From the second the podcast started, people just loved it. And you guys just went on this tour. And it was so major. But you guys really went on this tour and it was so major.

But you guys really like on a personality level are not so similar, correct? I don't know if I agree with that. I feel like in a lot of ways people think we're different. We aren't. Like people think I have it a lot more like together than her sometimes. And I'm like, I just don't think that's true. It's just the contrast. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. And she's a little more abrasive like publicly. I like to do it like BTS. And what were you doing work-wise before? I worked a restaurant i actually worked right next door at catch no way okay so you work in a restaurant and then how long before you quit that job since when the podcast started like i got fired before before i ever started with the podcast i got fired like randomly during covid that's rude and it wasn't random at all it was like completely my fault and I deserved it, but fired nonetheless.

And I was at Tana's when I got fired. So she was like, oh shit, like, what are we gonna do? And then it was like almost a whole year after that, that we started the podcast. Oh really? And what did you do for that year? Just scavenging for anything. Anything and everything.

I love that. Well, the podcast is so good and you you went on a huge tour. And one of the most iconic things that I know we were just talking about this prior. So if you I happen to think a lot of the girls who listen to our show aren't familiar with some of the the major moments in your career and your personal life in the last couple of years. And one of them is you dating Matt Reif. Yeah, we really funny story We actually, like we weren't dating really. It was just like, well, I thought we were dating, but apparently he didn't think we were dating.

Correct. Correct. And you did this sort of like iconic slay at one of your live shows where you brought out a bunch of girls. Yeah. Who he was talking to at the same time. What was the context there? So all of us thought we were like exclusively seeing him at the same time, but we were all,

we were all overlapping each other. Serial killer energy. Yeah. And we obviously found out about it. Like I found out about it long after, like when he was long gone and I hadn't talked to him in forever. But once I figured it out, I was like, this is hilarious. No, so funny.

And we all started talking to each other. We got like super close. And then we were like, we should all go to Nashville or something. And I was like, no, no, no. How funny would it be if I brought you to DC? And did the girls lose their minds oh they were so excited that's the thing i like really did it for like the canceled listeners no for sure we just knew that that would like they would eat that up especially in dc because he was like that's where and your relationship with him preceded his like kind of blowing blowing up like when

when he had his netflix special you had dated before that Yeah, he got his Netflix special like long after I got it and seeing you know What goes up must come down like ability is a prison. He had this sort of viral moment this you know Amazing whatever success and then you know the people really turned on him He had this big scandal with you know the tick-tock How did that make you feel cuz I am a person who like holds grudges I have enemies and I want the worst for them at all times. Are you, were you at a place in your life where you had healed and you wanted good things for me? You love to see it. Well, the thing is it came before

I knew. So before, like when I saw him like getting canceled and stuff, I was going on canceled or on my show and being like, Oh my God, no, he's so nice. You're lying. No, that's how it, that's why I got so upset about it. Cause I was like, I was defending him. I was like, that's not his character. He's, that's not who he is. He's so sweet. He's so nice. And then girls started messaging me like, um, sister, that's not true. Wrong.

Oh my God. That's crazy. So that's why I like really went hard about it. Cause otherwise I probably would have never brought it up. But I was like, you will not have me publicly defending you looking stupid when there are other people who know that they were seeing you at the same time as me. A thousand percent. So you really just found out that he had been seeing other people at the same time as you? Yeah, which is totally fine, but don't say you're not. Is it totally fine? I actually don't think it's fine. No, I personally am someone who like, I'm

so, you only are with me. Literally. Obviously. No, I don't think that's even asking a lot. I know. The bar is so low. You would think so, but it's hard to find I swear well you're not from LA where are you from I'm from Arizona okay and when did you move to LA um 2018 so if the majority of like your young adult dating life you've been dating in LA and I imagine that's difficult it's hard but it's not harder than it was in college you know yeah same energy like frat boy a frat boy is like the same thing as like a Los Angeles that's a good way of looking at it. Artist or whatever it is. I feel like you share so much.

And I think for a lot of the things you share on your podcast, you're like not wanting to tell, wanting people to find out who you're talking about. Yeah. And you share a lot, but I imagine, I just feel like you're one of those girls that like, there is so much we don't know. Like I would seriously give my life savings to look through your DMs.

Honestly, my DMs are not exciting. And it's really sad because I want them to be. Honestly, if you're listening and you want to DM me, please do. Because I read them and I respond. Do you slide into other people's DMs? I try. I really try. And I don't do it so much now because I think like if somebody were to. I don't know how I would feel about like a guy sliding in my DMs.

I'd be like, oh, you must do that often. So I don't want a guy to think I'm just doing that. But I feel like it's a thing a lot of people, like a lot of girls like to do. And I think there's a method to it. I've never done it. I've been married for 100 years. But I think that there's like a correct way of doing it. Do you have tips for like the girlies?

If you want to DM a celebrity, like what's a way to get their attention? Because there's a lot of people, like get in line. I don't know, I really don't know. I'm not that successful in it, so it's hard to give advice, but I always just say like hi or something, because if I go crazier than that, then I get embarrassed, because I'm like, I don't want them to think I'm desperate. But I am.

And by the way, I'm so open to desperation. I think it's so, I feel like, you know, if we were business women at a conference, they would just call us, you know, networkers. Yeah, I agree. You know what? Oh, Sabrina Carpenter's new song. She's like, I don't relate to desperation. I'm like, I do relate. I wish I didn't. I desperately do. I, it's the worst. It's my least favorite quality about myself. So when you brought those girlies on stage, you had so many viral moments from your tour, which is so, I mean, ideal marketing wise, this is a business. We're selling're selling tickets the bringing of girls onto the stage and i actually had spoken about this on

the toast because you had like some fucking freak like storm the stage yeah we actually had a few but tell me about that there was one who really made it on stage like most of them got stopped before they were even like really visible to everybody else but right one of them got all the way like into my lap before anyone even noticed and the video went so viral one because it's so crazy it was just strange she was like deranged she you know she wasn't drunk oh that's good no it's not no of course not if oh yeah that's literally frightening she if she had been drunk it'd be like oh like hilarious like she was so blacked out right she was dead sober she was in a manic episode which makes it like way that's like so

sad and like i have obviously sympathy for yeah but also your your safety is your safety who was she with and why didn't they protect angle her oh my god well the moment went so viral obviously because it's a crazy thing but the way you and tana both reacted on stage was completely different like polar opposite reactions and i think it really reflected how certain people there are two ways of handling like a panic situation, freezing and fleeing. Tana ran and you didn't move. She ran. But honest to God, here's the difference.

The real difference is that I was drunk and she wasn't. So I was literally like, oh, who's this? Like, I thought someone was bringing me a water bottle or something. She's an all black. She like was middle aged. So I was like, she's not a fan. She's harmless. Like she thought she like worked for the venue or something or they were like bringing something

up to us. I don't know what I thought, but I did not think she was going to kill me. Wait, that's so crazy. And by the way, I, do you, when you guys go on tour, do you make it a point to, is it helpful to you to drink before you perform or to not drink? I have to. Well, I don't have to. Of course I don't have to, but it really helps me.

And I still get so nervous. Do you? If I don't. Yeah. And I just like personality wise, I just feel like I'm, it takes the edge me and I still get so nervous do you if I don't yeah and I just like personality wise I just feel like I'm I'm it takes the edge off and I'm more exciting and I'm funnier or maybe I just think I'm funnier but it really doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter so the Matt Rife thing was like sort of for me I feel like that's how you came across my radar and I was like oh my

god this girl is so pretty and so cool like need to follow her and I feel like that's when I followed you because it was such an iconic thing to do and I think a lot of people also it's just like a lesson in how to handle things that's like you know finding out a guy you dated was talking to multiple girls and like dating them at the same time like that could seriously like upset someone and the fact that you made it into this like positive thing I actually think was like an awesome way for like people to see that like for other girls like don't get like down on it like let's make fun of it it's crazy and it's funny yeah and it is light-hearted I feel like some like a lot of people are like she beat it into the ground and I do kind of agree with that but it's like you know what i there's so

many times it's happened to me separately and i would never talk about it online but it was just the fact that i was publicly no i had to do it i was like no no no no but i feel like you're this type of person and correct me if i'm wrong where bizarre things happen to you yeah you don't you know seek out these crazy things but and the stories that we know which i'm sure that you haven't shared all of them the ones that we know are fucking crazy yeah and well the thing is i i'm the common denominator in all those situations so it's like i don't like what am i doing to seek these people out that's very self aware of you but like i also feel like we're victim blaming here like you are the victim

and like and then when i went on this rabbit hole when i first found found you on tiktok i then fell into the clinton cane of it all yeah he's a lizard and let me tell you i was shocked honey i was in tears first of all that you dated this man just visually not to be mean i would know you can be as mean as you want about that man. He was horrible. And you're such a classic timeless beauty. Well, thank you. And, you know, he's different looking. And I was shocked, first of all, on a visual. I'm a shallow person.

Well, but here's the thing. If he had been like a good guy, I would be so, like, I do not care if somebody's ugly. And I've had plenty of uglies to go around. You know what I mean? Yes. And, you know, so long as they're good and nice, I would never say a word. That's i would never say a word say a lot like people's outsides are reflective of their insides and so like you could be whatever traditionally not good looking but if you're like such a sweetheart precious gem of a man like you're hot to me yeah and that's what i kind of thought was going on until i found

out otherwise so you i don't want to paraphrase please for the listeners who might not understand the probably is this the craziest thing that's ever happened to you i hope yeah oh yeah i hope so yeah um so yeah i was dating this guy i had started dating him i was a fan of his he was a singer sings like love songs like people's very viral stuff like that and i started dating him almost immediately the major love bombing situation he was like immediately super affectionate like buying me things doing everything anything good I mean trips and just like stuff like that he was like he was definitely a spender like I loved that nice dinners and stuff and he was just like you know he was a love bomber and I love love bombing that's one thing about me is please love bomb me I love it and so yeah i got carried away and honest to god i wasn't

interested in the beginning but i was like you know what i'm gonna choose the nice guy this one time like i'm gonna go for the guy who actually likes me and wants to date me so i did and you know what happened he faked the death of his entire family and he pretended to be australian our whole relationship so that's why you don't choose the nice guy. Always choose the one who wants you dead. Well, I don't think that's a full lesson. But wait, that is so crazy. Yeah. So when you met him, it was just like a part of his background. Yeah.

We like first night we ever met, we like went out to this diner and he like cried to me about how his family had all died. Oh my. And I was like blown away. I'm like, I cannot believe he's been through all of this. And he's like touring a year later. Like that's amazing. So strong.

I was like, God, like talk about resilience about resilience oh my god i'm cracking up and just it was such a theme of our relationship like every single thing like came back to that like if i would upset him or if i was doing something he didn't like he'd be like you're reminding me of my mother oh my god that's really fucking crazy if i hung up the phone too fast he'd be like my mom used to do that it's so traumatizing for me it's such a a trigger. Like, she's alive. Like, call her. Oh, that's mentally ill energy. That's so crazy. Oh, it was so bad. Or I'd be, like, busy working or

whatever it was, and he'd be like, are you kidding me? You know what I've been through, like, and you're not gonna come meet me right now? Like, have me drop what I was doing. Like, it was so manipulative, and it wasn't real. Like, they are just fully kicking. And I don't know if you get backlash for, like, sharing sharing but i love that you did especially like with this specific situation like naming names well it took so long

i didn't want to talk about it for so long because i still like the person you loved yeah that and it's like you have to assume something's very very wrong with somebody if they're capable of doing that and so i was like from like the mental illness side of it i was like oh my god he needs to get help and like i didn't want his career to be ruined and stuff but like the further i got away from it i was like oh my god like that was a horrible thing he did to me that's what i love about your podcast and you specifically is like you know every now and then i feel like everyone on the internet is like always talking in code like i met a girl just fucking say it fucking say it and with the clinton kane thing like it was such a seriously like psychotic thing to do.

And in the words of Taylor Swift, you are what you did. And people should know because he's going to have to date more people. And it's just a quick Google is so helpful. Well, that's crazy. He had dated a girl before me and I'm the one who ended up telling her. And so, no, listen to how crazy this is.

She was like, I guess I'm in love is about her. That's his biggest song. She was with him for like nine months or something, but he killed his family off while they were together he killed his family so like he that story came about when she they were actively in a relationship so she flew that he they were long distance she flew from new york and stayed with him for months wait did she go to a funeral while he grieved oh he he it was during covid he went to his the funerals on zoom okay your whole family dies like i don't give a fuck if it's covid like you're going to the funeral oh you can find video footage of him everywhere talking about the funeral what it's like what he did how he felt and what funeral wait no this is so crazy that you ended up telling the

previous girlfriend that she hadn't even known she had no not a clue i told her and she was crushed because it's like she helped him grieve. Of course. And it was like, oh God, it had to have been worse for her because she literally flew with him for months. And like he literally actively was like, my mom died yesterday.

Oh my God. Where does one get that kind of idea? Like it's so crazy. Well, I think, I think he, cause he had a song that like did really well and he said it was about his mom and that like made everybody love it.

So I think then he was like, oh, I should kill her. Oh, my God. By the way, the price of fame. You're so right. But like you get a little bit of attention. Nobody even cares about you. No, that's really fucking nuts. Yeah.

Oh, my God. So it's like if you look up anything, it's like Australian, Norwegian singer. Like no one's from Norway. No one's from Australia. I'm glad you brought up Australia. did he talk he had a he had like some remnants of an Australian accent but he also like he went in and out of it but he would tell me like oh I lived in you know Europe and I lived like all these places okay it's getting to rate I know but yeah so I was like just confused I'm like well he's got something right right

oh my god that is so crazy are you okay I it took me a second did it oh it took me oh god now it's like funny whatever but yeah like I can be light-hearted and like joke about him being a lizard and stuff but I was like not okay no that's really crazy how long had you guys dated not even long we dated like seven months or something but I I was just, I felt like my boyfriend died. Of course. So I like gripped this imaginary. You should start telling people your boyfriend died. Oh, I did.

Yeah, he's dead. Very Clinton Kane of you. My Australian boyfriend is dead. Wait, and so that was the reason you broke up. Did you have a conversation with him? What was his sort of reasoning for killing his family? Oh, he, well, he still won't admit it. Oh, oh.

No, he will not say he did that. Oh, wow, oh. I mean, he, like, he did in not so many words. He was like, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to explain to you why. And then obviously never did. Right. I never saw him again.

Oh, my God. If you ever ran into him, what would you say? I curse the day you were born? Oh, I would hit him for sure. You would? No doubt. I support women's rights and I support women's wrongs. I think you should hit him.

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lot of money, like how different is that from the way you grew up? Is it taking like some sort of adjustment for you? Oh yeah. I grew up with my grandparents I grew up well I grew up with my parents until I was like nine and then I went with my grandparents from that time on and yeah my life is definitely very different now but are your grandparents still with us they are my grandma is like has really bad dementia so she's like that's hard she's not but she is she's physically here but yeah she's not but she is she's physically here but yeah it's horrible but your grandfather my grandpa's amazing i talk to him all the time and what does he make of your life he loves it he's so sweet he like he wrote down all of my

tour dates in his like notebook by hand so that he would know where he was every single night did you do a show in phoenix i haven't done a show in in Phoenix, but I mean, he wouldn't be able to go if I were to do it. Oh my God, that is so sweet. I love that. He's so supportive and he'll message me and be like, okay, well, I saw the show last night. Stop. He's so nice. Oh my God, he's perfect.

That's awesome. Has Tana met your grandparents? She hasn't, but I wish she could. You need to vlog it. Your vlogs are, vlogging is really hard. I love vlogging. It's my favorite i think like social media thing i love to talk to but but i find vlogging like long form to be um

very laborious yeah in terms of editing and uploading like it's i feel like it's the most work in terms of social content but i feel like it's the easiest way to like show your actual personality i feel like yeah i mean podcasting helps too. Yes. Anything long form to me is like more indicative of like who you are. A thousand percent. But I feel like vlogging and your vlog specifically,

it's hard to get people to watch. Like building a YouTube channel and building a YouTube presence, I feel like it's like one of the hardest platforms to build and people love your vlogs. Well, thank you. But I think I'm cheating this.

It's like, I think it's just like autoplay after canceled. No way. No, don't clown on yourself. Like I think for a lot of people, you've become like a, like a comfort. And I think also it's like i think it's just like autoplay after canceled and i'm like no way no don't clown on yourself like i think for a lot of people you've become like a like a comfort and i think also it's like the the age we're currently living in in youtube like long gone are like the girlies who we all used to watch like no more you know jeffrey doesn't post it anymore emma chamberlain like all the girlies are gone and i think people are looking for new comfort creators and you are

one of them was kind of like my thought process too i was like okay well this is like the time because everybody who like there's kind of like a gap no one wants to do YouTube right now because it's so much easier to do TikTok it's weird for you to have so many people commenting on all facets of your life I feel like a lot of your content but also a lot of like your comments and stuff are about your dating life but like your looks like people that's just the nature of the internet is that strange for you? Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I definitely don't love that aspect of it.

Sometimes it's like, it depends on what it is. Because sometimes I love it and I love the attention and stuff. Of course, if any social media personality in general, like loves the attention, they're lying if they say they don't live for it. But when it's negative attention, of course, I'm like, OK, well, how do I turn it off? Are you the type of person who like lets that stuff get to you like yes yeah like you read comments for sure and i'm very aware of what people think about me at all times which is like it sucks because that then i start behaving a certain way because i think i'm supposed to okay i was just doing a podcast yesterday with jake shane talking about this and he was saying he was getting so like

bogged down he accidentally like read Read this Reddit thread about him. No. We've been fighting about that. Him and I do. Oh. I yelled at him so hard. And I was like. Because when you start.

Changing how you act. To appease critics. You've lost the plot completely. And then people can tell. You're not being yourself. And then that's a whole. Additional thing for them. To comment on.

And hate on. And whatever it is. And then you'll get to a place. Like I've been doing this for so long. You will get to a place. Where not only do you like act differently online to appease your critics, you will start to make different life choices like in your personal life

because you are like always considering what people will think of you and that is a place where you let like haters or commentary from the internet affect like your actual life because this isn't real. Then you're in a really bad place and you need to cut it off like seriously at the balls like immediately. I'm such a big fan of just like fuck it, like seriously at the balls like immediately i'm i'm

such a big fan of just like fuck it like fuck it you know no it's it's just so much harder like i don't know i'm still so new to it too like tana's so good at being like i was gonna say fuck like but i'm so i don't know i feel like jake is in the same boat him and i talk about it all the time because we'll be like he talks to me about reddit because i've notoriously like been a reddit reader like oh of you about yourself oh yeah i it was like been a Reddit reader. Like about yourself. Oh yeah. I was like self harm. I was doing it for so long.

It is. But that's exactly what it is. And like, like especially somebody who's like a little off her rock or like me, it's like I'm, I'm spiraling. So obviously I'm going to go in and read this like enormous group chat with fucking 60,000 people in it who are talking like horribly about me.

Dig the abyss. No, you have to make a conscious effort. And let me tell you, I don't look at ityss. No, you have to make a conscious effort and let me tell you, I don't look at it ever. Well, I had to stop on tour because touring, like it's already so emotionally hard and like demanding and stuff.

It's like I could not handle if I thought that like it was being received poorly. So I could not be on Reddit during that time. Yep. And now I'm like, oh my God, my life is so much better. Once you're clean. Yes, that's what it is. It gets easier. It's like a vape. All it takes is one comment on TikTok where people are like, you know what I get? I get a lot of, don't listen to the people on Reddit.

And I'm like, oh, fuck, what are they saying? I wasn't going to. Yeah, or like, I don't care if Reddit hates you. I'm like, fuck, they hate me. You know what I mean? I'm like, oh no, now I know. And now I got to go check. I see your podcast clips a lot.

I know Tana vapes. Do you vape? No. Tell me about that decision. Honest to God, i've tried to get into it and i can't and like i literally wanted to be a vapor and i like i know by the way i'm like five months off the vape it's the best thing i've ever done quitting really do not start like seriously it'll ruin your fucking life no i don't have like an addictive personality when it comes to like drugs alcohol or like any of those vices it's like for me it's like food and boys do you zin what is up with those things like i'm sorry what is that is that

like the no yes are people doing that oh my god are girls doing that everyone is the they's the them's the girls the boys like gay straight everyone to be stopped no it's so bad for you and i think it's like the new, it's very Gen Z. The Gen Z's are over the vape. They said the vape isn't cool. We're doing Zen. None of it's cool. Get in the car.

We're getting mouth cancer. Seriously. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. See, I'm, no, no, no, no. I'm not into it. Me neither.

Also, you brought up Jake, you guys doing Pilates together. I have a question that I think seriously everyone is wondering. What the fuck is the aloe gym? And like, what is it? And where is it and do you pay for it like we want to tell us everything it's so crazy i wanted to get in there so bad like it's it's basically aloe headquarters it's in beverly hills it's like a mall like you walk in there and it's like this like seven story building and there's like people

walking around on all the aisles like it's literally like something you've never seen before. And there's just racks of brand new aloe clothes everywhere. And like you see like Nina Dobrev walking around. Obsessed. It's just the craziest thing ever. And like I see so many people hating on it and I completely get it because it's like, what do you mean? There's this like the exclusive gym. No, they're hating on it because they can't get in.

Yeah, and so was I until they let me in. I completely get it. Is it a gym you pay for? You don't pay for they can't get in. Yeah. And so was I until they let me in. I completely get it. But is it a gym you pay for? You don't pay for it. You get invited. Okay. So like you get invited to become a member. You get invited like once.

No, it's not like a membership, but basically like, so I had never been invited and I was trying to get invited so bad. I was like, literally you, every single person I met from Aloe, like headquarters, I would like try to befriend. I could not get in there. Okay. She's on LinkedIn. i'm not kidding i had to be invited as like an outsider in it was like a ysl beauty had like a event an event there okay so that was like my in so i just did my big one when i was in there

i was like chit chatting like with everybody and i finally met the right girl the girl who makes the list oh my god where is she and she? And she's so, she's actually, she's like one of my best friends now. Like I love her. Very smart, cozying up to the boss. We love that. Honestly, yes, I would love her separately, but like it's so beneficial.

I just love it so much because she'll text and be like, do you want to come in tomorrow? Like Pilates at two with Brett or like, or she's like. And so do you belong to a gym now or that has become your gym? No, and I, you couldn't get me to the gym

if I wasn't doing that. So it's been like a. A good thing for you. Oh yeah. We're cutting costs. We love that. Yeah, it's amazing. Okay, I'm so glad we cleared that up

because honestly, I was wondering it. And when I told everyone that you were coming on, I asked them if there's anything they wanted me to ask you. And there were a couple of things. And the first thing is people want to know if there's been any sort of update or movement in your relationship with Fibula. And I guess, is that a thing about you

that you have a big crush on Fibula? Yes. because you know who's extremely close with fibula who this girl you are so i could put in a good word well here's the thing if there was any like good words that could be put in like it's just not possible because it's like insane to me no offense and fibula is like very hot and cute yeah i get it like it's insane to me that there's anyone on the planet that you would want to date that wouldn't want to date you back no you would not believe how many of those people there are that's so crazy you are so pretty and like so sweet so nice but you think i'm crazy but he doesn't even know that yet so i don't really know what's going on does the fibs know you have a crush on him of course he does are you kidding me i talk about it so openly on every single podcast i've publicly

stayed one time i was sitting next to him at a dinner and i posted on my instagram story like the love of my life is sitting next to me. Okay. And he saw it. No, I'm podcasting with Brooke Schofield right now, comma. Do you know her? Question mark. I feel like you guys would be a good couple.

Can I please? You can. He already knows. Done. No, he knows. That I feel like is a really good crush for you. He's so sweet. He's like a good guy.

He's so cute. I love him. Who's really good crush for you. He's so sweet. He's like a good guy. He's so cute. I love him. Who's your celebrity crush besides Fibula? Matthew McConaughey. He's a little old for me. Okay. That's like kind of a weird celebrity crush. But I have a weird one too.

What? Yeah. That's the most common celebrity crush ever. Okay. Are you saying current Matthew McConaughey or like failure to launch? Any Matthew McConaughey. Even Matthew McConaughey 30 years from now. Okay.

I mean, my subject crush is weird, too. So I really shouldn't be judging. It's not weird. I just think it's like weird. I wouldn't have expected you to say that. Wait, is he the guy from the True Blood? Oh, no, I'm not thinking. I'm thinking Joe Santagato.

Who the hell is that? Santiago? Who is that? What am I talking about? I'm talking about the guy who was married to Sofia Vergara. Oh, so hot. Magic Mike. Magic Mike, yes.

That's not a weird one either. Who's telling you that's weird? Everyone. It's just kind of random. He's also not that famous. They're wrong. They should know. Have you ever seen True Blood?

No. That's what I think launched his career, and he's so handsome in it. I love getting attached to a character like Damon Salvatore in The Emporidaries. I would do anything for that man. Now speaking of characters I mean you brought it up so I wasn't going to bring it up but speaking of characters that we're all obsessed with there's like a pretty substantial rumor online that you're dating like the love of all of our lives

and I just want to say. I think you started it. No I fucking didn't. Are you kidding me? It was all over TikTok. Did I start it? Oh man I'm really sorry. No you didn't. I saw it and I was just like the thing is that's how i knew like you were a woman of taste because it's really hard to see people living your dream but if it's not gonna be me i'm glad that it was you that should be me and seriously maddie mckibben i know he's a real name it's beau yes and there was a tiktok floating around that you know he was like on tour with you And I think a lot of people thought he was like your emotional support boyfriend.

He was my emotional support friend. Friend. Okay, so you're not dating? We're not dating. Fuck. Okay, well, that's good for us, girlies. Let's go, girls. He's available.

No, the thing is, is like that's such a deep cut for so many of us. Like that show. No, he was my, oh my gosh, there's like tweets of me in like 2012 being like, Maddie McKibben, i will die for you i know i seriously like there was a time in my life where i would have like laid out on the street for maddie mckibben like and let a car run me over i would have done anything so now it's fun so that's why i was just letting everybody speculate because one thing about me is i'm not gonna shoot down a dating rumor if you're shipping me with somebody sexy also somebody famous like this is a business well right now i think people there's like people talking about me dating glenn powell i've never even met him

and i'm like it's because of the aloe gym i'm not kidding i'm like i absolutely am interesting me and glenn i kind of love that i do ship you and glenn as well i should be with anyone because you're just like so lovely thank you and i feel like there's a lot of people who um come into the space and either you know there's it's a slow burn their success or it's overnight success but they just become assholes I'm sure you have a ton of experience with that too I for sure probably have my moment no but I think for the most part like that really comes through and I think that's why so many people love the podcast and love your content it's because you really seem like a joy like a delight well thank you just a girly from phoenix we love i can be

really horrible i think we all can but as long as it's you know not documented nobody has yeah that's what i try to do i try to keep that under wraps again behind the scenes how long do you have to be dating someone before you like really let them see like the real you obviously like we're all playing a part for a couple of months um oh i don't know depends because i love again i love a love bombing relationship so i love to like literally be dating before you know anything about me that's so crazy but it never really works that's why it never works out and and then maybe they find out i'm crazy what's the craziest way you've been like love bombed well definitely the clinton yeah the trips the things of that nature yeah and just like like he said i love you like three days after

we met oh that's really fucking crazy yeah but i was like he's a he's a singer like of course he loves me also why would you not love me after three days no and it's like finally somebody gets it like i'm amazing i love me too i was literally like and also it was like i thought he was like you know kind of punching up so it's like maybe he was like trying of course he loves me no that's honestly so sweet should you take him back no i'm kidding could you where is he now actually ever since i like started stalking you on social media he has now infiltrated my timeline it's funny how the algorithm works so i do believe he's out there shaking that thing but not shaking something not in any meaningful way today's episode of the toast

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As somebody who has actually been cancelled, have you no um i've been i've like uh dipped my toes in the water and do you feel like i've got any like podcast that attracts that energy or deters that i feel like putting it out there it's like no we can't get canceled our podcast is called canceled well it like it kind of helps that i you know tana thought of that like when she was it's very smart title it's so that when people search like tana Mongeau canceled, that's what comes up. Oh my God, queen of SEO. She's a genius. That is really smart.

But yeah, I think, I mean, people probably give us a little more grace than a lot of other people because people just expect us to be controversial. But yeah, I don't know. I'm trying not, anything I could be like canceled for is kind of like maybe when I was like a teenager or whatever which is understandable agreed and you do guest episodes but you also just do episodes the two of you which do you prefer um I love just the two of us really no one likes the guest episodes really unless it's like somebody that people like people really love that's so funny that's like um kind of a thing that I think a lot of podcasters deal with is like they say the best way and it's true.

The best way to grow your podcast is to have guests on and go on other people's podcasts. Like that's the way to grow. But your audience, like your core audience, excuse me, they hate it. Yeah. Because it's like you don't want to hear an interview of somebody you don't care about or don't know. And you don't know how to balance like that, you know, growth with like wanting to give your audience what they want because they're the ones listening and they're the ones, you

know, paying the bills. Yeah. So we feel guilty because it's like, well well also we run out of things to talk about, the two of us, and you must not relate to that, because I can't even imagine doing as many episodes as you do, but like. The difference is my co-host normally, not this week, but normally is my sister,

and I just feel like it's a different level, because we've literally had the same life experience. We've never run out of anything to talk about. Yeah, that's true, we only have a few years to pull from exactly exactly but i feel like what you guys do in a few years people do in a lifetime yeah well we do a lot i also like it's kind of tricky too because i am trying not to share too much about my personal life and stuff and like that's what the podcast is so if we did more than one episode a week i would be toast yeah how do you toast i know yeah how do you, toast. I know, I took that on purpose.

Yeah, how do you balance that? Like with, obviously, the more you share, the more people love. Like that whole Mindy thing, like everybody died for. But that obviously takes a toll, you know? Yeah. How do you balance? I don't know.

I try to kind of keep everything separate because. Because you gotta live. Yeah, and it just messes up like everything. Relationships, friendships and stuff. Try to have like a whole separate life kind of i saw um i heard you on a podcast where you were talking about like telling stories about your life and that you'll give like clues like you'll say like he or she or blonde or brunette but you're like leading people astray like i'm fully lying i think that's brilliant it's i have to because it's like i want to still tell honest stories and stuff but i don't it's so no matter how many times you tell people to stop, they'll go and find them and they'll message them or they'll post about it and post TikToks about it and speculate

in whatever it is. So I'm like, God, I want to share, but I can't. No, that's actually really funny that you do that. And I think it's really smart. I have to. So I'll like say like one thing about them that's just like absolutely not true. Yeah. Like a like a redhead.

Yeah. That's so funny. Do you guys do advice on your podcast? Kind of. We probably shouldn't. No one should take advice from the canceled podcast. That's for sure. One time I told people to use a magic eraser

to get their self-tanner off and I gave people chemical burns. Wait, I kind of feel like that would be a good idea. No? I thought so. Had you done it? Uh-huh. But I guess I don't have sensitive skin.

I don't either. That's so interesting Okay So at your own risk Well in that vein Every Wednesday we do do Do do I was already getting ready to laugh about it We do a segment called Dear Toasters

Where people write in And I've chosen three And they're all a little relationship based Because I feel like you have a lot of experience In relationships And if you guys want to write in Of course it's deartoasters at gmail.com Or head to thetoastpodcast.com to submit.

It is completely anonymous. And if it's okay with you, I think the girlies would love to get some advice from you. Okay? Okay, I would love to. I can't promise it's going to be good advice. But we're also, you know, we're different. And I think maybe it's good to have two, you know,

different spectrums of advice. I agree. Hello, I am a huge toaster. I have a unique dilemma. And for context of the story, please know that I am severely allergic to peanuts. If someone eats peanuts and then like 12 hours later kisses me, I will go into anaphylactic shock. So it's very serious.

I recently was looking at my husband's credit card statement, something which I don't normally do, and I found something horrifying, a hotel reservation in our city when he was supposed to be gone for work. When I confronted him about it, he was embarrassed but said every once in a couple of months he goes to a hotel, eats tubs of peanut butter, Reese's, peanut butter and jellies, etc. And he showed me a video of the peanut haul. I flew off the handles and he said I was overreacting. Do I have the right to be furious or am I the one overreacting? Wait, she's just mad that he ate peanuts?

Honestly. When he's not with her? Like, I think he kind of sounds amazing. He's going so far out of his way. It's really nice of him to Wait until you're Wait So is he out of town Like or

I mean she says it's in his town And he's Spending the night Oh so he's having a A peanut staycation A peanut staycation Oh But he took pictures

Like I believe that That's what he's using the hotel for Do you think it's more nefarious Or was that an alibi Or was that an alibi He's like wait let me do A quick little peanut muck thing i mean men really aren't that smart to like come up with a diversion video but

well then why would you not just say like i'm craving peanuts can i please go to the w for the night it's you know what you're 100 right it's never the crime it's the cover-up like the lying about it now makes me think well you yeah that's the thing if you're really just eating peanuts why can't you tell me about it because it's like's like if I know that I'm allergic to peanuts and I know my boyfriend loves peanut butter, like, yeah, sure. Spend the night. Yeah. I think you are overreacting if he's telling the truth. And you can gauge, like, what does your gut say?

If you think he's lying and there's more to it, then no, of course not. You're obviously not. Maybe she's mad that he's coming home maybe not within 12 hours. Maybe she feels he's being reckless perhaps with the allergy oh that could be that could be it too which i do understand and people with allergies like do you have allergies like serious me neither i'm not allergic to anything so i can't relate but people with allergies are really really serious and i imagine it's very frustrating when someone especially your life partner is not being as serious when it comes to sort of protecting

your allergies as you would want them to. Yeah, if you can die from it. I know. Isn't that so crazy that you can die from food? That's so scary. Like, oh, my God, I can't imagine something worse than that, especially because peanuts are everywhere. I know. Well, not anymore.

Like, do you just live in fear? Not anymore. Thanks, allergies. When I was in, like, when I was a young kid, and I've actually recently discovered, you see that little girl on TikTok who tries new food every day? She's like, hi, I'm living with ARFID, and i am trying pepperoni pizza today i haven't seen her okay well so i saw her videos and i realized that i have i have had arfid my whole life it's an i don't know like i haven't been diagnosed but it's an acute restrictive food intake disorder when i tell you like you would die if you knew what i ate like i'm so so particular so picky like that of a five-year-old actually

like a five-year-old has a more. I was like that growing up. I wouldn't eat anything but macaroni and like. Same. I would only eat chicken. Literally still to this day I have chicken for every meal. Like grilled chicken. That's all I eat. And where was I going with my story about our food?

We were talking about. People with allergies are super serious. People with allergies are super serious. It's getting better. Thank you, Christiana. Okay, yeah. So all I used to eat as a kid was peanut butter and jelly. And then there was this little shit in my third grade class who had a crazy allergy,

and I couldn't bring peanut butter and jelly to school anymore. No, literally. And I went through literally taste testing all these alternatives, like almond butter or whatever they had back in the day. So disgusting. My life was ruined by this kid's allergy. So I understand where this girl's coming from. No, screw her.

I understand where she's coming from. I understand where the husband's coming from. Sometimes you just got gotta get your fix I agree I don't think I could ever oh my god I couldn't be with somebody who was allergic to peanuts really that's a very hot take like the love of your life was allergic to like chicken and you couldn't have chicken that's a good question because like I need chicken to live I have it every meal I had for lunch that's how I feel like I couldn't marry someone allergic to cats because there's never going to be a time in my life where i don't have a cat wait wait wait what you like

cats oh my god you're you were perfect oh you look oh were you gonna tell me hey hey like literally would kill one if i could what i would literally kill a cat if he touched me are you kidding no no i think cats are like seriously the scariest most disgusting things on the planet i hate you no no i hate you you can go wait what are you talking about me cats never chosen you or maybe i have dogs that you're horrible i have dogs do you have dogs i don't have the dogs i love dogs i'm i love dogs but i just you so don't give me cat energy i didn't i never really cared for cats i was indifferent about about cats until I had one cat that I met that I loved so much. And changed you. I just was like, I have to get one tomorrow.

So you have one at your house right now? Yeah. Her name is Murphy. Her name is Murphy. And what is she like? She looks exactly like Bella Hadid. She's perfect. She's hypoallergenic.

And she's just sassy. She's cuddly. She's not like a normal cat. Okay, what if you fell in love with a guy? He was perfect. Completely perfect. But he was like me like hated cats wow really my one non-negotiable like wow really gone deal breaker yes what if he's a billionaire with a b seriously care really do not care but he could build your cat like its own house its own mansion or a wing with a in your own house for the cat yeah can i

spend five days a week in it and you still have to like be in a relationship with the person no oh my god i'm in shock because i want to have seven of them damn and i think that you haven't met the right cat because nobody hates that's like that's you can't say that actually like i haven't met a cat like i won't even go near one i did what no no like seriously i did cat yoga once like i was forced you know what cat yoga is yeah but i don't i can't imagine that that would be even a good experience for anyone so that was like horrifying but even before that i was like so afraid of cats well are you is it a fear yes yes yes oh okay well that's understandable cats like a lot of cats are mean and they're mean to people who don't like descendants of like the lion you know

like and that's living in your house so fucking amazing to me it's like because i was just watching like our planet the other day and i'm not kidding i was like i love our planet i was watching this um the cheetah on there her name is martini and i'm thinking about it and i'm like i have one i have a tiny one of those in my house like imagine you had a tiny elephant that you could have in your backyard no that's pretty sick I like that When you put it like that It's so cool and their instincts everything about them is the same Also cats you know they're just born knowing what to do

They know what to eat they know to go in a litter box Like you don't have to do anything As somebody with a puppy She cleans herself she goes to the bathroom herself That's huge I don't have to take her out it's the easiest thing ever And then she just cuddles up on my pillow at night and she gives me serotonin. And she's literally on a trip.

Like, does anybody need to watch your cat? A hundred percent. I will not leave her alone for even eight hours. Who's watching her right now? Well, I'm not gone for eight hours. Oh, right. OK, OK. I mean, I don't know how long I'll keep you here.

Are you ready for another to your toaster submission? Yes. Long time listener. Love you both so much. So I have a situation coming up and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how you'd approach it. My husband and I have been together for seven years and we'll be going to a wedding in a few weeks. We will be seeing a girl that he admitted to cheating on me with. This happened four years ago and immediately after it happened, my husband remorsefully admitted to blackout drunkenly making out with his high school friend. We've moved on from it since. However, how would you approach interacting with the girl your husband made out with the thought of seeing her makes me want to throw up please share any advice for interacting with her since i know i'll have to say hi to her would you just try to look your best not acknowledge her love you and will confidently take your advice that's really hard really hard because in my head i want to be like throw a drink on her of course but but your husband was the

problem in that particular scenario so if you can go hand in hand with your husband to the wedding you can probably give her a little head nod. Yeah. I also feel like if you were looking for a reason to not go to this wedding, now you have one. I'm always looking for a reason to get out of stuff. But what are you going to do?

Send your husband to the wedding alone? Oh, no. We're both not going. Oh, good. It depends on whose wedding it is. I'm not sending you to a wedding with your girlfriend. Like, no. Yeah.

Like, do you have to go to the date? How close are you guys? Right. And sometimes I really don't want to go to something and I'll like really search for a reason and this like it's kind of right in front of you so if you didn't want to go like you'd have a dress already and you're just kind of dreading it i feel like you don't have to go well it sounds like it's his wedding too because it's like his high school friend so it must be someone related to him yeah and i feel like you guys shouldn't go like and that's your husband's punishment seriously for your weddings are so fun

and sometimes like well it depends like if can you look really good and the girl like hates you. I know but it's like still just like so it's you know it is it's just fucking unfortunate. And if I imagine you will go and I would just be like quiet and nice. It's always best to kill him with kindness. Yeah. And like you watched me before you and they did that. He like showed up to the wedding. Correct.

Just to be like respectful. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's fine. It's not like the biggest deal. Also when you said your husband cheated on her obviously i thought you that they fucked yeah but and obviously making out is wrong but it's a different level of cheating than like sleeping with someone so i think you're gonna be okay just look really pretty and be really nice you never regret being nice that's a thing and keep your eye on him seriously oh for sure yeah and like i it's it's nice that like

you're you gave him grace you're a stronger woman than I am. But you know what they say. Once a cheater, always a cheater. So just keep that in mind. They do say that. Just keep it in mind. I'm sure he's amazing. We love him. But just keep that in mind.

Always keep it in the back of your head. Our third and final one. I need your guys' advice because I can't tell anyone. I know they will judge me. I went snooping in my boyfriend's closet. And I found an engagement ring. And I just feel like it's way too small. I know I can hear how bratty I sound but I really want something bigger and I absolutely know that

we can afford something bigger. It also does not fit me like it doesn't even go over my knuckle. So how do I subtly tell him my ring size so he knows to get a resize before proposing and how do I make it known that size does matter? That's really awkward. Maybe it's not for you. Oh my. I don't know what i'm even talking about by the way facts like why would anyone seriously buy a ring without knowing for sure if the person's size it's such an expensive thing i would also be just like kind of hurt if yeah exactly if somebody didn't take into account what i wanted like or ask my friends or something and none of my friends are gonna let a guy buy me a baby an ugly yeah and this is literally that episode of sex in the

city where aiden, Carrie finds a ring and it's literally so fucking ugly and she doesn't know what to do and she talks to her friends and Miranda was like, wait, you don't like it? I picked it out. And then she's like struggling and then he proposes and the ring is gorgeous

and it was because Samantha stepped in and was like, ew, get rid of that. So that's what you need. You need to send in a friend. Learn from Samantha Jones. Send in a friend. That's a genius idea. Honest to God.

And have the friend be the one who is kind of a brat about it. Because then you don't have to be ungrateful. And this is something, like, if it's really bothering you, like, it's so expensive. Why spend so much money on something you actually hate? Like, you're actually doing him a favor. See, I would be screwed. I'd be stuck with a ring on my hand that I hated.

You would? Are you like a people pleaser in that sense? Oh, so much. Well, yeah. I would never, like, tell somebody I didn't like a gift they gave me ever. Even if it's an engagement ring. Damn. I would be like, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And I would wear it proudly. What's your dream engagement ring? tell somebody I didn't like a gift they gave me ever even if it's An engagement ring I would be like this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen and I would wear it probably What's your dream engagement ring?

I don't know I've never really thought about it I don't think a lot about marriage I was gonna ask do you want to get married in this life? Yes oh yes What kind of bride do you see yourself as? I don't know I think it depends on who I would be marrying Because how All my relationships have been they're just so different Based on like who it is.

Do you have a type? None of them are the same. Because I feel like a lot of your boyfriends look different, yeah. No. Damn. I'm so excited to see what's in store for you. I know, me too. I'm like, Glenn Powell?

I'm just kidding. Perhaps Glenn Powell is, oh, let me see if Fibula texts me back. Oh my god, I'm going to kill myself. No, like for real, I feel like you and Fibs. He knows already, though. That's the embarrassing part. It's like he literally already knows. She's's fucking awesome we had a blast the last time we hung out stop i'm kind of obsessed well he knows you're with me right now so of course he's gonna

be nice and then as soon as i leave he's gonna be like oh god she's so annoying oh stop he's so sweet and i feel like actually i heard he doesn't date okay well that's helpful so that honestly maybe somebody was telling it like me that for my ego. To make you feel better. But I'm going to sleep on that and honestly just think, oh, he's just not interested in dating. But I love that you put it out there and you manifested. You never regret shooting your shot. At all.

At all. And I love to just say out loud who I love. I mean, what days do you guys drop your canceled episodes? Where can people find it? It's on YouTube and obviously all streaming platforms but we prefer YouTube and we drop on Fridays. How fun.

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