The Toast - Celebs x War: Thursday, October 12th, 2023

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning Millennials and happy Wednesday. I hope everybody's having like the best day that they could possibly be having. Given the circumstances I hope that your day is going as well as it could possibly go. Right. Hey Jax, how you doing? I'm doing okay. I look forward to another day of trying to buoy humanity and the Jewish community. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Because that is our role to play in the war to come amongst others, but I think it's a very important role and it helps me I think it helps you and it helps a lot of people so I am committed to doing that while still talking about what's going on talking about the celebrity element and sharing resources for how you can help 100 you just reminded me of something like not to change the subject so swiftly on you um we started a list yesterday of phrases like we need to start saying more regularly and just things we need to start saying more regularly and just things we need to start remembering. And I had one.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Okay. Is the blank in the room with us? Yeah, that's something that you saw on TikTok. It's not like I saw on TikTok. It's just like what people say on TikTok. And you like it. And I like it. Yeah, it's like when someone like, okay, Jackie, tell me like me like hold on tell me like that you feel really
Starting point is 00:01:07 beautiful today like you'd be like I look really beautiful today no because I feel like you're gonna like just can you say it for the way that your phrase is it sounds like you're about to make fun of me okay say be like I look so fuck I keep I can't like explain this the way okay no okay this isn't booing watching you stutter and fumble no it's like when somebody brags like oh my god I'm having such a hard time explaining like the proper use of this phrase am I okay is the blank in the room with us like maybe you could find the TikTok you saw it in and share it it's not like a one-time TikTok it's just like when somebody on TikTok brags, like, look how, you know, fancy my room looks. And someone will comment, is the fanciness in the room with us? Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:52 That's a good example. Is that a good example? Yes. Yeah. No, it's so funny. And I probably should learn how to properly use it before I try to like start adding it to my weekly vernacular. And disseminating it.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. I'm sorry. I totally botched it. Can somebody like write a good comment explaining it? And so you were gonna make fun of me as the beauty in the room. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. I'm not falling for that. But it wasn't about you it was it was hypothetical. I understand I just feel like there were other situations that could be less hurtful. So do you want to add it to the list? You didn't make the best case for it but I'll do it because I love you and you're my sister and we're 50-50 and if it's to you, it's important to me. Wow, I love that energy.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Also, I need to talk about things that are booing us. Is the blank in the room? Yeah, what's booing you? Because I have a few things to help buoy you. One, my episode of The Redheads is out.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Claudia listened to it this morning and the comedian herself said it was comedy gold. It was really funny. How funny are we? Just really, really good. I think we need to move to the comedy category. It's highly competitive. It is but the redheads there's nothing like them.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Nobody can beat them. Yeah but also the redheads kind of like put out that episode without posting anything else about like the war in Israel. No I heard that the redheads are very anti-Israel. You could possibly think that because we've been silenced or silenced radio silence from the redheads disgusting and we put out that episode not even acknowledging what's going on so if you think maybe the redheads don't stand with israel i'm here to tell you that we absolutely do i run our instagram account and all of my efforts are being put towards my personal on your bigger channel toast but i do need to make a statement for them from the redheads plus dropping an episode like in the middle of a war without context could seem insensitive could seem insensitive no you should
Starting point is 00:03:28 also actually now I'm being serious like put together I saw Emily how three's a list of books for anybody who wants to like know more about the conflict or just like you know uh learn about the Jewish people and the struggle history yes that is my plan but you know the redheads are Instagram's very curated so I have to make the card I And as stated, like I've just had a lot going on. But that is priority today for sure. The episode's 30 minutes. So it's just like a nice. I listened to it while I was doing my hair this morning.
Starting point is 00:03:52 A nice little treat if you just want some lighthearted fodder. Plus I'm also on Straight Up With Stassi podcast. And that's another little treat if you want some lighthearted fodder. It was a really fun episode. Claudia was like sitting next to me while I recorded it. I was sitting right here and Jackie was sitting right there. So the voice of Claudia is in the episode. I'm constantly like asking her, wait, Claude, what about this? Yeah, that kind of makes the episode worth listening to. Yeah, for Turdy's
Starting point is 00:04:14 influence. For Turdy's voice. So when you're done listening to The Toast today and you still need to be buoyed, there's two more podcasts that you can listen to with your girl. And I think it's important to have things to look forward to. I agree. I feel like yesterday I was actually like, I needed things to buoy me. Like I had a really bad night last night. Like I feel like people always say, and it's something I've never been able to relate to,
Starting point is 00:04:39 like when they're stricken with grief or just like going through really hard times, like I can't sleep, I can't eat. Like for me in my life, and no matter what I've been going through, I can always sleep and I can't eat like for me in my life and no matter what I've been going through like I can always sleep and I can always eat I I was shook when I weighed myself this morning like not in the way that I'm usually shook I cannot eat I'm nauseous all the time I literally woke up I literally thought I was pregnant like I fell asleep nauseous and I woke up nauseous I feel physically ill like yesterday was just like a yesterday we were together a lot
Starting point is 00:05:03 and so I feel like we were like I feel good when I'm with other people but like the second I got home I was literally not okay like physically or emotionally um so like I need the toast you buoy me today yeah I'm like I'm sick we are gonna do our best and I feel like we have been doing as good a job as we possibly can given that there's so much on our minds and on our hearts and so we're just gonna keep it real with you guys about how we're feeling I'm wearing this cowboy sweatshirt today because it's the only sweatshirt I brought to New York with me I don't know if the cowboys made a statement um if they didn't I won't be wearing it again I'm sure that they did I googled it I said Dallas Cowboys Israel but there's a player named Israel and he came up
Starting point is 00:05:42 so I said Dallas Cowboys Hamas nothing came up I never thought I'd be googling Dallas Cowboys Hamas I don't think Hamas thought they you'd ever be googling Dallas Cowboys Hamas I don't think the Cowboys thought I'd ever be googling Dallas Cowboys Hamas but so many sports teams have come out strong in support of Israel so you know I would honestly assume that they have like if the Cowboys haven't there are so many teams for me to be a fan of right now I'm so impressed by the sports world yeah the sports world for before a lot of games have been you know having moments of silence like it's it's very um I know it feels like meaningless and performative but I actually really don't agree I think seeing things like that bring me great
Starting point is 00:06:17 comfort just knowing like there's 10,000 people or however many are in a stadium or a baseball field like who all like know that this is wrong. Like that actually brings me great comfort. And I find maybe what other people would refer to as performative activism. Like it brings me great comfort. Yeah, I totally agree. There was like a huge Israeli flag in that baseball game. That video went around.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Also, I wanted to talk about something because I feel like when people talk about performative activism, they always talk about the black square and everyone's like, remember the black square? We're not doing this anymore. I didn't feel that way about the black square. I tell you what how I saw the black square like when I woke up that day I forget which day it was but it was Thursday nobody was posting anything
Starting point is 00:06:52 other than a black square and my entire Instagram feed was black squares people who I follow you know in my personal life who never post at all who just use Instagram passively never post I've never seen a post of theirs every single post was a black square I did not see one other personal content from an influencer or a person no ads nothing self-promotional and it felt like an international day of mourning and I remember feeling like wow if this if people ever did this for the Jews how much that would mean to me you know it I completely agree now I think it's like it's dismissed as performative I remember. I didn't interpret it that way. I remember experiencing it as like, we're not distracted.
Starting point is 00:07:30 We're not talking about literally anything else than this. And it was extremely powerful. I agree. I think now like people remark on it differently, but at the time. I feel like at the time people didn't appreciate it either. And then they thought that it was like taking away from the messaging of the movement because then Instagram was flooded, but I just felt like I would like you,
Starting point is 00:07:49 you had to pay attention. Yeah, no, I completely agree. So I don't feel like I don't feel that way about social media activism, even just posting up a card. Like it, I think it means something and it matters to me.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah. No. As someone on the other side, like I, I feel like you can't it's all good yeah like I don't really see how and we're not even saying like stop posting your coffee right and your lip balm and your ads I know it's prime day you guys have commitments I just yeah but like you can post where you stand yeah no I I agree with you and if you're not
Starting point is 00:08:23 posting anything at all none of those things and you don't have to post anything right no it's not like a requirement and I kind of like I'm struggling with so many like internal conflicts yeah because I find myself like being like judgmental and like shame like police shame post post shaming people yes in my head no I'm not you know a little bit on the toast too a little bit on my Instagram yeah yeah actually I'm definitely and like I I feel like I'm turning into like a person who's annoying and someone I would like hate but it's like it's conflicting feelings I understand that but what happened was so egregious yeah an evil we've never seen in our lifetimes in this century ever inconceivable evil so I want to know the people
Starting point is 00:09:02 that I follow and the people that I know like is this ambiguous for you I don't want to know you I don't want to follow you it's so true like when you break it down like you're right and the people who come on with like statements of like six slides it's like I don't I don't need to hear your verbal diarrhea like I need to know where do you stand like that's it yeah no totally and I don't need to hear why you can't tell me where you stand or why I don't need to hear where you can't tell me where you stand. Or why I don't need to hear where you stand. Like. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I do need to know like which of my friends are going to justify and excuse terrorism. Like I absolutely need to know. For sure. And I think it's really important to know. Like in no way do I think that everything else should stop. No. And I think we'll talk about. Not that it could.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I think we'll talk about that with our first story. We can barely get people to just stand with Israel unequivocally without the but at the end of the sentence. Let alone to stop posting their nonsense. And some of the nonsense is booing. So I'm not even asking. Yeah, no, I don't think that's required. And I don't know if it would necessarily even be like, you know, more helpful.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I think it's perfectly fine to like, the rules of social media are so bizarre and they're so fluid and they're always changing. But like in this moment, I feel like it really is okay to continue to go on with your life, especially if your job is influencing content, creating, being a celebrity, putting out content. I think that is fine. But I do think it's, you know, also important to just announce where you stand. Like, are you ashamed of where you stand? And there are so many graphics that I've seen that don't say much, but they say enough. The one that's like, you don't have to be Jewish.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You don't have to be Israeli. You just have to be human. When I see to be Israeli. You just have to be human. When I see that, agreed. You just have to be human. Yeah. It is inhuman to see what we saw, to have that not be enough for you, to doubt what you've seen, to say, oh, this is fake news. This is propaganda.
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's like everyone is doubting this like baby's claim because they won't release pictures. It's like, how badly do you want to see decapitated babies and they released a picture today so it's really graphic if you're on social media and they released a picture like that's how much doubt was cast upon this like first they just told us about it and people didn't it wasn't enough then not tanya who showed president biden pictures he came on and he said i saw it right biden confirmed yesterday that he saw it and people were like he mumbled what so they posted a picture where if you need to see a picture which I don't think most of you do but if you if you do need to
Starting point is 00:11:12 see it in order to believe it where was it posted it's on twitter you could find it okay it's really really upsetting I didn't see it do you see it. I saw somebody had like blocked out some of it. So I saw like part. Okay. So yes there's enough information out there for you to to get a grasp on what's going on. And I think to not address it is just it's it's an interesting take. It's an interesting take and I feel like so many people are like i don't want to take up space with my post on no you should take it up take up you know what takes up space those six slides i have to spend time reading that everybody else shares and hides behind so i've got to read it again yeah that's taking up time and space yeah shove it up your ass jackie went there she went there unless you're saying something like if you're saying i saw a
Starting point is 00:12:08 statement that literally said nothing i know said absolutely nothing that is taking up space knowing the font is so you're better off not saying anything seriously like no shade because you've just said nothing no you sound dumb it was. It was like, I stand with the people of the world. I love oceans. I love oceans. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. It came from an account that you wouldn't expect anything more. It was like, words are vibrations.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, one of those accounts. One of those accounts. Third eye shop crop. No, I like third eye thoughts. Third eye blind. I love third eye thoughts. They're really introspective. I don't need to hear from third eye thoughts on this matter. Right right right right right. So like
Starting point is 00:12:50 what else? What else? We have some celeb news. We have some celeb ex-war news. Celeb ex-war. And that's what we do here because we know you're all sitting around doing the same thing. And I just want to say I like I know we have I've heard a lot from toasters who live or visiting Israel and they said the toast is booing them. So like we are committed to being as funny as possible today for them. Yeah. Which we always are. We don't have to try. We don't even have to try. I feel like when we try that's like when it's not funny. It's so true and I kind of feel myself trying. No. No and yesterday I was like not trying and we were so funny yesterday. It is what it is is who would have thought like wartime episodes being some of this
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Starting point is 00:16:40 Wow, you're kind of relaxed with the iPad recently. Claudia, I'm in no rush. Plus, it's hard for us to find things to talk about, so I'm taking my time. It is hard for us. Gotta make the episode long. It is really hard for us to find things to talk about. Okay, the first story, what everyone's talking about in CelebXWarnings. Oh. Taylor Swift forged ahead with her dumbass movie premiere,
Starting point is 00:16:58 has yet to say anything about anything going on in the world. She had the Swift Eras Tour concert film premiere in Los Angeles, smiling on the red carpet with her celeb friends, posting videos with Beyonce, yet to mention Slaughterfest 2023. Yeah, so I have like literally not been able to process this.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Like when I was on my Instagram yesterday and she posted like a picture of her in her outfit, which was heinous, getting ready for, like I was, I was floored. Like I understand that this is an event that's been planned and like you're not,
Starting point is 00:17:34 you don't need to cancel it. No, and that's what we just said. Like you have your work commitments. Right. Do your thing. For sure. And she hasn't said anything. And even if you're not going to say anything,
Starting point is 00:17:45 to post about it on Instagram, like for me, just takes it to another level. Like have the event. Do you want to stay silent? Fine, still stay silent. But to post about it on Instagram, I don't know. I was just shook beyond words. And my lack of interest in this story is like beyond me
Starting point is 00:17:59 because this is, a week ago I would have had so much to say about Beyonce. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Like it's fabulous she everyone keeps pitting them against each other Beyonce looked fucking amazing like I could go on but honestly like it's one of the craziest it does anyone else not like it this is crazy no it's crazy and you said yesterday Taylor doesn't speak on these issues so you don't expect her to speak but she does she does you know you're right I uh the swifty the Jewish 50s like and I have been chatting and they're like no for for many many many many years she never said one thing about one thing ever and then that started to backfire on her and then I
Starting point is 00:18:36 think kind of performatively she started like picking and choosing kind of safe causes um and putting a lot of energy behind it and she actually got like a lot of backlash for it especially from the queer community because it felt just like inauthentic um to like make it your brand right and no I had forgotten about that like she she in recent years and it was covered a lot in her documentary now I've spoken to the Jewish Swifties and we are like crestfallen like for real um and there has been like a theory going around, which I do think has validity and I'll shed some light on it. You know, Taylor speaking out is huge, bigger than any celebrity ever. She's, you know, actively on a world tour. And I think
Starting point is 00:19:19 it could be a possible concern. She talked about it in the documentary um about her safety you know taking a stance against a terrorist organization one of the most powerful people in the globe who's going to be traveling around the world in the coming year i guess that's fair who wants to tell her hamas doesn't care if you stand with them or against them like they're coming for you just the same so so factual no it's factual i just wanted to share with the jewish 50s like we're i've seen that theory we're struggling i've seen that theory and we're grasping at straws I know and you guys are getting really creative and I think that there's probably some merit and some fear maybe but you also have to you know have a spine no for sure and honestly I was really shook because I didn't
Starting point is 00:20:01 really put together I wasn't thinking about the fact that it was ERA's night launch. Like I just wasn't, it wasn't on my radar. And the first thing I saw was that Instagram post. And then when I was on Twitter, I saw a picture of Maren Morris. And I've been monitoring Maren Morris because she's like a very vocal queen. She actually, we didn't even talk about it on the toast,
Starting point is 00:20:18 but like she, it was kind of misleading because she like did it and the media like kind of misinterpreted. Then she went on a podcast and said like kind of, but she basically said like, I'm formally leaving like the country music industry like my music will still be country but I'm not releasing it with country record labels anymore like I don't want to be a part of the Nashville crew because I find country music just to be like hypocritical and they don't stand for equality and she thinks they're spineless like there's
Starting point is 00:20:39 obviously just politics like a difference of a politics there and that was her you know big moment when she like a week or two ago and I that was her you know big moment when she like a week or two ago and I've been looking at Maren Morris's page not promoting excuse me not promoting hasn't said a word yeah promoting her children's book how dare she who would dare she can promote it in between you know her statement I was shocked because she just made this huge um pronouncement and and the reason for her leaving is like you know her her statement. I was shocked because she just made this huge... Pronouncement. And the reason for her leaving is like, you know, her progressive beliefs.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Right. That none of that aligns with the country music world. And it's like, well, here you go. Right. This was not progressive. Do you have something to say about it? About the women being raped. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:19 About a country that... I read something crazy today that 93% of people in Gaza are against homosexuality. 93%. They said it was the highest in the world. That's not progressive. No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So that Maren Morrison really struck me. I was like, wow. Just her presence there, I was like, I was shook. And also, I think it's high time we start talking about what happened between Kelsey Ballerini and Taylor Swift I saw a video on TikTok before the war BW where um Taylor was Kelsey was on a red carpet and she was asked like what do you think about Travis and Kelsey and she was like oh I think it's great I hosted SNL with and I love Travis and you know Taylor and I were close for many many years were close for many many years and the comments were like we're and now it feels like Taylor's like new you know country girl BFF
Starting point is 00:22:10 is barren is barren yeah but is that surprising how many were close friends to Taylor has Taylor had wow like now we can be honest yeah no I really like might be 50 no she definitely has a lot of you know coming and going she has a lot of Roman empires. Yeah. The girl you used to be friends with. So back to Beyonce and Taylor. Also also worth noting Beyonce has not said a word. Right. So I don't know this gave me nothing. Like this is something I would have like seriously like died over. Especially because Beyonce looks so gorgeous. Yeah it would have been a great moment for women but we just had like a really bad moment for women.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So maybe we could have like women talking about that. There's no serotonin. Like my brain doesn't there's no wave activity when seeing this photo. It's enormously disappointing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And I'm struggling with how to grapple. Like seriously I'm really struggling. Yeah. The Jewish 50s are not fucking okay. I will give you space and time. Thank you. Like please don't come at like. No, I know you're loving this.
Starting point is 00:23:10 No, I'm not. I'm not. I would have loved for her to be the queen that we need her to be. Speaking of. Oh wait, wait, wait. Wait, what are you going to say?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Kings and queens. No. But save that. You know who was at the Eris tour that like a lot of people are talking about is Adam Sandler. Right. Because he's like pretty much like the most prominent Jewish celebrity who is so proudly Jewish and everything he does.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And he's been and he's not like a person who releases statements. Like he's just a dad. But like. He's not an influencer. He's not on Instagram. We don't like. To me he's not required. He's not required.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And I imagine. I just watched his movie and I've seen quotes about him talking about Israel. Like he loves the state of Israel. He did a big Howard Stern thing once. So I believe he's someone who is, you know, his role is not Instagram influencing. True.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I'm sure he is helping behind the scenes in his personal life. We all have a role to play in the war to come. Yeah. Yeah. So I have no issue at the moment. But I'm saying, like, I have to imagine if, like, you know, Taylor was, like, a Hamas lover, Adam wouldn't have gone. Like, they know each other personally.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I don't know. I'm really struggling. Like, I'm grasping at straws. No, I don't think it's that. I think, you know, his daughters probably really wanted to go. Yeah. And he went. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Speaking of kings and queens. Yes. So interesting. And, like, the way that this show has just, like, changed in the last week is so crazy. Because Kate Middleton, Prince William, and King Charles put out a statement yesterday about the war. They said the prince and princess of Wales are profoundly distressed by the devastating events that have unfolded in the past days the horrors inflicted by hamas's terrorist
Starting point is 00:24:48 attack upon israel are appalling they utterly condemn them as israel exercises its right of self-defense all israelis and palestinians will continue to be stalked by grief fanger anger fear and anger and fanger and fanger in the time to come. A very strong statement. A very strong statement. And we were saying yesterday how Megan and Harry were on their mental health world tour. They haven't said much. You know, they like to speak out for causes. And especially like humanitarian crises such as this. Crises.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And they put out a statement yesterday too. After Will and Kate. After Will and Kate. And I have to imagine like Will and Kate's statement lit a fire under their tissues now. The timing. Like, I guess, but a lot of people, you know, a lot of people really say this. Perhaps yesterday was a big day for a lot of people. You're right, you're right, you're right. Who couldn't really ignore it for much longer.
Starting point is 00:25:30 They said, at the Archwell Foundation with Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, we stand against all acts of terrorism and brutality. We are supporting our partners and organizations on the front lines in Israel to provide the urgent aid needed and to help all innocent victims of this unconscionable level of human suffering. No, that's the thing. Like, I knew Markle and her sparkle would show up. Like, Rachel Zane would never not show up. Like, I, like, I, this, again, brings me great comfort.
Starting point is 00:25:58 These are people with so much influence. Like, these are, like, AAA-less. Like, I always think of them on the same level as Michelle and Barack. Like former dignitaries of sorts, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Former like heads of state. And I don't know, I feel like they all just go to like Martha's Vineyard together. Diplomats. Yeah. Yeah. And you know,
Starting point is 00:26:16 Barack Obama put out something really strong too. Like I think these are people with enormous influence like all over the country. Not just in like elite circles, you know? And I'm grateful
Starting point is 00:26:25 I really really am so grateful so appreciative of this strong statement from Megan and Harry in the ranking of beloved celebrities on this show Megan has now surpassed Taylor Swift I'm telling you and if you had told me that last week like by the way next week you guys are going to be so here for Megan Markle and so not here for Taylor. If you told me that. I could have told you the Meghan Markle thing. Like, I've been telling you, you need to watch Suits. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. She, I just, I knew it. Like, she's a fucking queen.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Well, former. Princess. Queen. She's a queen. Like, that's my bitch right there. I love her. Yeah, so that's some good celebrity ex-war news. I just want to say, like, I still find Harry annoying.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like, I'm sorry. Yeah. But, you know, doing the right thing. No, no. All beef is squashed no it's so true like the media landscape is forever changed for me for me and it it should be yeah yeah speaking of the media landscape um SAG-AFTRA oh my god are back to negotiations as studios suspend negotiations.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So talks between SAG-AFTRA and the major studios have broken down as the Alliance of Motion Picture and TV Producers said Wednesday that the gap between the sides is too great. In a statement to members after midnight, the union accused studios of engaging in bully tactics and said that the studios had walked away from the bargaining table after refusing to counter the union's latest offer. Like a couple of weeks ago we were told it's going to be any day now like we're good we're pretty much there just
Starting point is 00:27:48 dot the t's sign the i's yeah that was about the writers no that was about the actors the writers were confirmed okay and then they're like and sag is imminent sag is three four days away that's what they said so now the studios have walked away from the table but the writers are good like the writers are back at work okay happy for the writers what does this mean for the actors like are we gonna get all new actors now I don't know or like maybe a new different union like maybe people who want to go back to work and and are fine accepting less because it's all they can get they're like listen we got to work so I don't I honestly like I have no idea um I don't know like and now how long has this been going on was it since July that's really long
Starting point is 00:28:33 yeah and like thankfully most of the tv I watch is like the nanny like shows that the friends yeah sex in the city like I've just been watching the same five shows um but like people gotta work this ain't cool yeah you know I am you know going to an event that Fran Drescher is scheduled to be at next week maybe I'll just ask her like Franny what up yeah wait I just put together Franny the nanny even though they call her Fran it should have been called the Franny. That's how she became The Franny. So. But also like, I guess writers, a lot of writers write for TV shows with actors. But a lot of writers write for like daytime. So I feel like some of the writers who are now probably not striking anymore still don't have work because they write on scripted shows.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Right. That sucks. Yeah. It's all one big organism. Right, right. And I feel like SAG went on strike in solidarity with WGA, and now they're alone on strike. Yeah, but they had their own things to worry about too.
Starting point is 00:29:38 For sure, for sure. You don't just go on strike for nothing. Yeah. So who knows? The SAG saga continues to confound. Maybe Fran like will drop out of the event because she's now like so busy like it's. It sounds like her schedule just freed up they're done negotiating they walked away. Yeah but she is like a union to answer to you know like thousands of members. Yeah. I'll let you guys know if I see her. I think that you will.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I mean, the studio's walked away, so either she has to come back with her tail between her legs, or actors are gonna leave the union, or new actors are gonna get jobs that they wouldn't have gotten. Yeah. At this moment in time.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I can't believe this is still going on. If you ever wanted to be a movie star, really now is your time. Yeah, but the dangers of that, they say, it's like if you're wanting to be a movie star, you can technically take advantage of this strike if you're not in SAG and get a role you never would have gotten because no eligible SAG person is around. If you do that, you're immediately like blacklisted from SAG.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So if SAG remains, and I'm sure it will, like this prestigious union that you have to be a part of, and you acted this way during the strike. Hashtag the SAG remembers. I think that there's going to be a coup within SAG of actors who cannot take this. First of all, people who actually like need to work. Yeah. The smaller actors, they'll start. And they can also say like, hey, if we defect, we can get these bigger roles.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I think that's what's going to happen. That's usually what happens. Like Lord of the Flies energy. Yeah. fact we could get these bigger roles I think that's what's going to happen that's usually what like lord of the flies energy yeah however I do think SAG um has a big fund that a lot of like the one percent of like they say like 99% of people in SAG don't make more than I think $26,000 a year but that one percent of people make hundreds of millions and but it behooves them to keep paying that fund so those people don't take their part right open your eyes so a lot of big actors are um keeping them at twenty six thousand dollar salaries i was gonna say a lot of big actors are contributing to the fund to keep them at twenty six but that fund's gonna run
Starting point is 00:31:33 out quick taking their million dollar salary and by the way i don't know how much really longer that fund can go on paying like a hundred thousand people's rent bills for the first couple of weeks it was like noble and but now it's like how much money is that a lot yeah I don't know I think we're gonna see the sag turn on each other what is the new sag called hag yeah sag oh no sack I'm not okay. There's other stuff. Oh my God. I was not saying that. Wag. Wag. Bring back wag. Zuh.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Zuh. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some odd celebrity news. Sharon Osbourne says she and Ozzy still have an assisted suicide pact in place. That's so them. The talk show host, Sharon, initially addressed... What show is she on? She was on...
Starting point is 00:32:28 The Talk. The Talk. But she's not anymore. No. She's on Ozempic. Yes, and she's spoken about that. She said she lost
Starting point is 00:32:35 too much weight. Same. She initially addressed the subject in her 2007 memoir, Survivor, My Story, where she said
Starting point is 00:32:42 that the couple would go to the Swiss physician assisted suicide organization Dignitas should either of them ever suffer from dementia. The topic surfaced once again on the latest episode of the Osbournes podcast,
Starting point is 00:32:54 which features the whole family. During the conversation, Jack inquired if euthanasia was still a plan for his parents. Euthanasia is such a crazy word. Yeah. I guess assisted suicide is euthanasia. However, euthanasia makes such a crazy word yeah i guess assisted suicide is euthanasia however euthanasia makes me think of dogs and the holocaust why didn't they euthanize people in the holocaust they killed them it wasn't a mercy isn't like gassing people euthanization no it's just murder
Starting point is 00:33:19 oh okay like so what's euthanization it's like when you kill someone prematurely out of pity or them yes oh okay never mind so then i think of dogs yes dogs get euthanized yes so sharon replied do you think that we're gonna suffer aren't we already suffering and he uh said yes we all she said yes we all are but i don't want it to actually hurt as well mental suffering is enough pain without physical so if you've got mental and physical, see ya. And then Kelly said, but what if you could survive? And Sharon said, yeah. Survive dementia?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Sharon said, yeah. What if you survived and you can't wipe your own ass? You're pissing everywhere. Shitting. Can't eat. I just want to say, I'm not laughing at the side effects. Dementia is horrible. I'm laughing at you saying shitting yourself. I gotta listen to say I'm not laughing at the side effects. Dementia is horrible. I'm laughing at you saying shitting yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I got to listen to this podcast. This story begs a larger question. Let's talk about the Osbournes. Like they have been famous for as long as I've been alive. I can't talk about the Osbournes without Kelly Osbourne on The View. I can't talk about the Osbournes without saying Sharon! I didn't know about that Kelly Osbourne on The View clip. How about that Donald Trump? I fucking love that moment. It's the funniest thing. And when you sent it to me it was the most shocking thing I ever saw.
Starting point is 00:34:36 If you've never seen just Google Kelly I keep almost saying Kelly Clarkson. Kelly Osbourne The View Trump. Oh my god it's 10 seconds and the video just does not end how you think it's gonna end it's the craziest thing I've ever seen I can't believe she still works yeah but I guess her parents actually maybe google maybe google Kelly Osbourne toilet I know Claudia like everyone knows everyone knows I'm sure if I google the internet will know what you're looking for if I go to to Kelly Osbourne on Google and I see related searches, it's going to be Kelly Osbourne, The View. And I don't want to spoil it for you guys, and I don't want to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Kelly Osbourne, 2023, baby, weight loss. Oh, wait. View. It's buried. She's a team of people working on it. It's buried. Propaganda. It's there, but you have to write the whole thing out.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Got it. You have to find it. But it really, I think we should just take, like, a step back and think about the Osbournes at large. Like, they are famous because he was in a band called Black Sabbath. Very, very, very, very successful. And him and Sharon became, like, this iconic rock. And then they had kids, and then they had the reality show.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And, like, I just don't know why, like, they're still like it's just like crazy to me now yeah what does Jack do right oh that was an actual question no right Google like he does what every like nepo kid does yeah stuff projects and such projects of that nature projects of that nature. Projects of that nature. Understood. I just, I think it's crazy that like all these people are famous. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:10 but they're like, but that's what, for a very long time in this country, like that's what America loved. Like families of famous people. Like their show on E!
Starting point is 00:36:19 was around the same time as the Kardashians. Like there was an obsession with like family reality shows. And there are, not even just famous people, like all those TLC shows obsession with, like, family reality shows. And there are. Not even just famous people. Like, all those TLC shows. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Johnny Cate. Stacey and Darcy Silva. Yeah. Are those 600? No, no. Or 1,000? That's Tammy and Amy. 1,000 Pound Sisters.
Starting point is 00:36:36 They're not 1,000 Pounds anymore. What are they? I would say, collectively, I don't want to guess someone's weight. But they lost the weight? Yeah. How? Like one did and then the other was put on a ventilator. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Like it was, honestly. How did they lose it? I think one of them got surgery. But like one of them, honestly, I don't know. I don't keep up with the thousand pound sisters. I prefer to watch 600 Pound Life. Individual stories. Got it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 But they got their own show, Tammy and Amy. Right, right. it's a crazy name for a show I actually I actually remember the first time I saw it in my tv guide I was floored no TLC goes hard no and you know what like they have a niche and they kill it like who would you say competes with TLC for like freak show they They're like, they find people with like the biggest pimples ever on their backs and give them their own shows about what it's like to live with a pimple that big. Like it's a circus. No, but like Netflix hasn't even like, they see what TLC does and they're not even trying
Starting point is 00:37:36 to copy it. Like that's how much of a lock they have. That's how singular their niche is. Yeah. Some of their shows, like the titles, like at first they started innocently, like Toddlers and Tiaras and John and Kate Plus Eight. Then they had like the Duggars
Starting point is 00:37:51 with 19 kids. And counting. And counting, because like they were constantly, you know, fucking. And then they just like, honestly, I need to Google like craziest shows TLC has ever produced.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Okay. Because I feel like you wouldn't believe it unless TLC has ever produced. Okay. Because I feel like you wouldn't believe it unless TLC ever. I mean, who could forget Breaking Amish? Right. Who could also forget Extreme Cheapskates? Oh, yeah. Hoarders.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Hoarders. Buying Naked. Are you familiar with that? No. Oh, I've seen this. Sex Sent Me to the ER. Dramatizations. It's like people's stories that they dramatize i didn't know i was pregnant yep yep yep yep best funeral ever okay wait screen rant.com the 10 weirdest tlc shows of all oh excuse me it's not even on here my strange addiction oh my god extreme couponing i want to
Starting point is 00:38:41 say that's one of the best shows on tv we could all learn a lot from those people. Here comes Honey Boo Boo. Hoarding, Buried Alive. DUI, perhaps one of the most forgettable series. DUI was a production in the same vein as Cops or Live PD, in which television crews chronicled the arrests and prosecutions of Oklahoma residents caught driving while intoxicated. Oklahoma's notorious for its stringent DUI laws, and the series highlighted the stresses and consequences of those working their way through the court system after being arrested. Breaking Amish, extreme cheapskates.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Buying naked. House hunting shows are incredibly popular and when combined with feuding couples or unexpected expenses, the ups and downs of the housing market can make for surprisingly exciting TV. But in 2013, TLC decided to take it a step further by debuting... Of course they did further by debuting a series that focused on the house hunting experiences of nudist
Starting point is 00:39:30 couples. Oh, I should be on the show Freaky Eaters, a program that highlighted individuals struggling to absolve themselves of irregular eating habits from a man who hoarded more than 100 gallons of maple syrup in his home to a woman who habitually drank up to 30 cans of soda per day me um aired for two seasons oh my god this cannot be a real show my teen is pregnant and so am i my strange addiction like mtv like had team mom yeah they just take it so far they just have to obsess like i i really respect and applaud their ingenuity and constant creativity. Yeah. To finding the craziest people in the country.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Like what their writers room is like. And like the ideas that are thrown in. But they don't have. Oh, yeah. Not like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like their creative.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Their think tank. We're doing a brainstorm. Like what's the craziest show we could do? Yeah, like new development team. Yeah. That would be just insane. Am I being called? Who's calling now?
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's the iPad. The iPad's... No, the iPad's here. It's my computer. Oh. It says you're calling me. What?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Oh, no, sorry. Never mind. Sorry. Someone else. Okay. My phone, like, didn't update. Today's episode of
Starting point is 00:40:40 The Toast is brought to you by Saks.com. We, Jackie and I, are always doing our best when it comes to looking fabulous on the podcast. And thankfully, there's video proof that sometimes that's not always the case. Sometimes it's a slay, but sometimes it's a nay. Sometimes our pajama uniforms and sweatshirts do need a little bit of an upgrade. And that's why Jackie and I love shopping at Saks.com for everything from podcast looks
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Starting point is 00:43:58 and three of her daughters faced backlash for partnering with fast fashion retailer sheen teresa and all of her daughters shared a video posing in several dresses matching sets and pajamas for their judaist girls x sheen collab they said we're so excited to finally announce our partnership with sheen official to create the ultimate saying it like sheena like sheena sheen because if it was up to me i would say shine so i'm trying to get it right shine shine on girl it's she what, girl. It's Shein. What am I saying? Sheen? Shein, no? It's S-H-E-I-N.
Starting point is 00:44:28 There's no reason the company's named that. Like Shein. Maybe Shein. Sheout. That's what I was thinking. Like Shein. But like that's not even a good name. If your company name is so,
Starting point is 00:44:38 like is causing so much disruption and discourse, you need to reevaluate. A lot of things they do cause disruption and discourse. And they're not reevaluating. but i should watch your video to see how the daughters pronounce it yeah but they said all it's a ultimate pre-holiday collection they said all the pieces are a reflection of us it's very glittery and gold lots of glamorous fun and chic styles that are perfect for everyone we even made to make sure to include comfy and luxe sleepwear for your next girls night in so while several fans have flocked to congratulate the women,
Starting point is 00:45:07 several others criticized them for working with Shein as the company has been accused of unethical business practices and copying work of other designers. Someone said, why Shein though? One of, if not the most problematic clothing lines there is. I guess the shoe fits. Fucking rude. Someone said, Shein is some of of the cheapest junkiest clothes it's
Starting point is 00:45:25 fitting this is mean i have a hot take here oh wow because you know i'm not like theresa's fan no um first of all everyone works with she in like why is it coming down on the daughters no just like trying to be like industrial self-starting women they got a this is the brand that gave them a collab right and they took it no and by the way maybe not everyone works with she in but they work with a different variety fashion boohoo pretty little thing asos like all who really do this h&m all who really fashion nova all who really fashion nova oh all who sheen takes the brunt of it but they all have very similar business practices that are problematic yeah that are fast fashion that are copying other people that are made of crap
Starting point is 00:46:03 that are bad for the environment why is this coming down on the judaist girls shoulders who are just trying to like provide for their families i'm sure they sell like restitution they're not turning down business opportunities this is not their problem i agree like fast fashion falling on the shoulders of melania juda gabriella juda gabriella juda it feels wrong it feels wrong and it feels misplaced and to be honest I think like this is a great fit for them brand wise
Starting point is 00:46:29 like yeah who if not Teresa and her daughter is like is gonna do a brand collab with Shein you know
Starting point is 00:46:34 yeah Chiara Ferragni's not gonna do it no and it's a big opportunity for them they are like little influencers
Starting point is 00:46:41 on their own this is probably the kind of clothes they wear this is the kind of clothes their followers wear. Like if you want to take on fast fashion, like don't start with the little person
Starting point is 00:46:49 who's just trying to like, you know, pay back their restitution. Right, no. And if we want to talk about fast fashion, like we also need to talk about like the lack of options otherwise. Like I don't see a ton of ethically made $10 shirts. I don't see, by the way,
Starting point is 00:47:04 especially when I like needed see, by the way, especially when I needed to shop for bigger sizes, good luck getting anything in a 14 or above that's not made in a sweatshop. We need to wear clothes. So let's talk about lack of options.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It's not like she could've done a partnership with another company that makes ethically sourced, responsibly affordable clothing. Like, there aren't options. Yeah. So if we want to, like, go in on fast fashion, there's a conversation to be had here.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But, like, I don't think the Judice is. It needs to be at the table. I don't think tearing the good Judice name down is going to be helpful here. It's not going to be effective. Haven't they been through enough? Haven't they been through enough? Not me defending Sheehan today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Or the Judices. Crazy. But just crazy things happen every day on the show. No, and it's like we're, things are just being put in today. Yeah. Or the Jew Dices. Crazy. But just crazy things happen every day on the show. No, and it's like we're, we're, things are just being put in perspective. Yeah. So I think this is mean. Those, those tweets were mean. Like you can comment on the state of fast fashion without saying it's fitting.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah. Then I'm not taking you seriously because you're mean. It's so true. So I stand with the Jew Dices today. And the Jews. We stand with the Jewdices today and the jews we stand with the jewdices we do our fifth i think that needs to be our title the jewdices standing with the jewdices like jw right unless you don't think it would translate verbally orally i don't know it might be confusing we'll take a look yeah we assess after. Maybe there's something yet to come
Starting point is 00:48:26 that would make an amazing title. The best is yet to come. Our fifth and final story. The winning Powerball jackpot ticket worth $1.765 billion sold in California. This is the second largest prize ever. It's always in fucking California. The fourth billion dollar jackpot in history.
Starting point is 00:48:44 All of them sold in California. What do you mean all of them? They're going to have to split it? No, no, no. All of the billion dollar jackpots are from California. We need a documentary on this. Like. It's giving McMillians.
Starting point is 00:48:56 McMillians. McMillians. Not enough people talk about like it's always California. And I understand like if there have been four billion dollar prizes and California is so big, maybe two of them. Like I understand how population ratios work suspicious I have I have a thought okay one California is a huge state so population ratios as you said but let's talk about the people of California and you know they're a city of dreamers LA is the city of dreams they might just be a more lotto ticket buying town no california is so big
Starting point is 00:49:26 like north to south like la is not even california but maybe it's never sold in la proper it's like always like somewhere completely random no but maybe the heart of the californian people is to dream and everyone else in the country is like more realistic they're like you know this is a waste of money like to dream they're dreamers and their dreams came true no and the rest of the country maybe is a little more sensible so you're saying they manifested it nobody else did that sounds like what you're saying they're buying lotto tickets and no one else not no one else is no way but they're buying more lotto tickets like per capita than the rest of the country because like their souls are the souls of a dream no like i'm telling you nobody on the planet is buying more lot of tickets than people in florida like that's just a fact well they also win too a
Starting point is 00:50:10 lot they do they're also a big state what is it no i know what you're saying by the way like lottery tickets and like being obsessed with lottery kind of person it's cultural like it definitely is i completely agree i'm just not buying that the dreamers of California proper are dreaming this into existence. Like I'm just not buying it. No, they're just like buying at a higher volume. Their probability is higher because they are of the elk who dream. They are of the elk who dream. No, let me ask you another question.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Get your iPad back. What's considered the poorest state in the country in terms of like, is that a stat like GDP kind of? Yes, I'm sure. Can I guess? Sure. Do you want to? Yeah, no, I feel like I could get you canceled. No, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Is it West Virginia? This is by the poverty rate, but that's not what we're saying. No, I guess poverty rate. Actually, it would be by individual. And who cares what the you know legislation has there I want to say West Virginia oh they're making me download the graphic hold on wait uh the port Mississippi yeah that's what I'm seeing on this graphic interesting and then West and then New Mexico and then Arkansas no No, Mississippi, Louisiana, New Mexico,
Starting point is 00:51:28 Arkansas, West Virginia. Okay, that was a good guess by me. Yeah. So I would expect like more dreamer mentality from the poor states. Like would that have high poverty rates? Dreaming is priceless. Can't put a price on the dream. It's just, it's a, it's a it's a it's meant like it's not about
Starting point is 00:51:46 it's not about that it's not about statistics it's about dreams like it's just about like like rich or poor you can dream you know it doesn't have to be you don't have to have a certain amount or not a certain amount to dream like it's free dreaming is okay so you're arguing against yourself because if dreaming is free, then everyone would equally dream. That's true. Wow. And that wouldn't be specific to California.
Starting point is 00:52:13 That's a good point. But I just think that they are the elk who dream. I think they have dreamer souls. The elk who dream. You know what, Jackie? I agree. They dreamer souls. The Elko dream. You know what, Jackie? I agree. They dare to dream. I feel like even in those California propaganda commercials
Starting point is 00:52:32 where they're like, come, it's great. I'm so glad you brought that up. I feel like it's like California, like we got a dream. And then he's like on the surfboard. Skateboard. Yeah. What is up with like states having commercials? And I want to say I've only seen it for California Michigan and New York well because they're suffering but I have also seen
Starting point is 00:52:53 it I think for North Dakota never no never and it's I get that it's like a bid to increase South Dakota to increase tourism and people moving You know, and that increases revenue, and creates jobs. Like, I totally get the mathematics, but, like, the concept of a state having a commercial is so, like, just goes against everything I believe and understand, you know?
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yeah. It's, I remember the first time I saw it, Michigan went fucking hard. Where, like, it was a river, and then the river turned into the word Michigan. Like, they went so hard with their propaganda. Like, they were the first ones to do it I will give them the credit for being like you know thought leaders in their field but it's something I really can't get on board with that's like when you talked about hospitals that have commercials weird I
Starting point is 00:53:38 feel like I didn't realize it's not like there's so many hospitals that it's like you know what this one I better commercials I'm gonna go to that one Like you always go to like the one that's closest. Right. I guess not everything's always an emergency and you do get to choose. Yeah, but you would choose based on your doctor and your doctor choose. Like for an OBGYN, it's like your hospital is associated, your doctor is associated with the hospital. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But also I never realized this and I'll explain when I did realize it. But drugs companies, commercials, it's like, don't you just take what you don't go to your doctor be like i saw a commercial for astrazeneca yeah it's so weird and i didn't even notice that until people in the uk were watching megan and harry on oprah and all the commercials like for drug companies they were like oh they don't have that they don't have that there and then it made me see a difference i'm like by the way that's an amazing point i don't like go to my neurologist and say i saw a commercial for this migraine medication. Actually though,
Starting point is 00:54:27 first tip, first of all, first of all, speaking of migraines, nobody is doing more than NERDTEC OTD. Yeah. Lady Gaga and Khloe Kardashian as their sponsors. Like,
Starting point is 00:54:36 I mean, spokespeople. I'm a migraine sufferer and I, I still haven't like brought it up to, to my doctor. Okay. But you know what? Because I trust my doctor more than Lady Gaga and Khloe Kardashian.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Don't you feel like that might be changing now? Like with Ozempic, like that's a drug people are requesting to be doctor. Okay, but you know what? Because I trust my doctor more than Lady Gaga and Khloe Kardashian. Don't you feel like that might be changing now like with Ozempic? Like that's a drug people are requesting to be on. Whereas before, like they would go in with an ailment
Starting point is 00:54:51 and say, give me the best stuff. Right, but Ozempic isn't even getting like the Nertec OTD treatment. It's actually getting the opposite. Yeah, but they, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:54:58 they do have commercials. Oh, oh, oh, Ozempic. Obsessed. Talk to your doctor. And, but even their commercials don't address it being used as a treatment for weight loss. It's all about insulin resistance.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Yeah. So that's a very interesting point. And I love that Megan and Harry brought that to us. In addition to a strong statement yesterday. Yeah. What else is weird that they have commercials for? During the Super Bowl, there was like a commercial for Jesus. Oh, yeah. But I think in the end that ended up being like a commercial for Jesus. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But I think in the end that ended up being like a commercial for like a nonprofit or something. Yes. I also think that commercials in general, it's just like, who's actually influenced by this commercial? Like, is this really going to change what brand of cookies I'm going to buy? As a species, we are so evolved past commercials, like traditional TV commercials. There are some things if it's a new product and I see a commercial for it,
Starting point is 00:55:48 like I might be, you know, helped. But like to see a commercial for Doritos, like I either want to buy Doritos or I don't at this point. Like I've tasted them.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I know when I want a Dorito. So I feel like with a Dorito, like I think, I put them in the category of like Clorox. Like they're doing the commercials seriously, like just to keep up appearances.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Like it's not. But it's expensive. Yeah, but like they have the money. They're all in like this rat race because I guess if Doritos dropped off, but like other chips didn't. Ladies is coming out. Like I might forget about Doritos.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Right. I mean, I could never, but I know what you're saying. It just, it makes me think all the time. Like you guys don't need a Super Bowl commercial. Like that's a lot of money. Donate it. I actually disagree. But of course donate money. But it's a rat race is what it is yeah when I think of commercials but to me there's no marketing more effective than a Super Bowl commercial when done right
Starting point is 00:56:34 but even for Doritos because I think there is like like the farmer's dog commercial like a new brand you're hearing about it and it tugs at your heart but for Doritos it's like I'm either gonna eat Doritos or I'm not no because it's it's a brand awareness like an image thing like Doritos is such a cool brand like I always feel like they're partnering with cool people because they're keeping up appearances like it's a cool factor yeah is it effective it must be like it must be I think for some products and businesses it's so effective and for others I just feel like it's a waste like Oreos like I either want an Oreo or I don't and your commercial is not going to change that but the thing is do you ever not want an Oreo if I'm like picking out cookies in the aisle like if it's going to be Oreo
Starting point is 00:57:12 or chips ahoy like that decision's not going to be swayed based on a commercial no because it's always going to be an Entenmann's and Entenmann's doesn't run commercials but they're also like not as popular they don't have to but they're not as popular because they don't run commercials. But they're also like not as popular. Because they don't have to. But they're not as popular. Because they don't run commercials? I am. Or because it's a smaller business. It's a smaller business because they don't run commercials.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It makes you think. It makes you think. And that's your marketing segment with Jackson Turd. Yeah. So that's our show. More questions than answers. But that's like kind of
Starting point is 00:57:40 the toast in its essence. Well, we just ask questions. Never stop asking why. Never stop asking questions. So that's our show. Right? Yeah. All from me.
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