The Toast - Club Cooke: Wednesday, May 13th, 2026

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

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Favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday. It is Hump Day, so don't forget to Hump Someone You Love. And speaking of somebody that I love, welcome to the show. Jackie Ashroy.

Little old me? Just little Miss Follay. Who's afraid of little old me? I definitely am. You, everyone. everyone I see you all should be bitches better be um yes thank you

welcome to the show turtle folay thank you journal folay sister of journal in honor of a lifetime having been the sister of jirdle folet I don't play wordle I play turtle I play turtle oh my god I have to tell you the funniest thing so yesterday I was in the park

and you know me a major celebrity I ran into so many toasters taking pictures then I'm walking home and I see this girl in this and she got so flustered. She meant to say, oh, my God, I'm a toaster. And she was like, oh, my God, I'm a turd. And I was like, same.

That's good. Like, just like the good guys have the morons. We have the turds. We have the turds. That will never not shock me when I see, like, Ben, like, talking to morons. I'm like, that's rude. Like, it always takes me a minute to be like, oh, that's their fan base. The first time it happened, we were, like, at corner store.

we leave and this guy's like, girl actually, she's like, oh my God, I'm a moron. And I said, okay. Don't be so hard on yourself. Yeah, lift yourself up. Love thyself. Love thineater. And Ben was like, no way. And I was like, what is going on here? It was very jarring, a manipulation of language. But yes, they do call their fans the morons, which I think is so funny. And kind of perfect. Agreed. No, I'm kidding. Hit the nail on the head with that one. I'm kidding. We're collaborating with them this weekend. So we have to keep things like super cordial. Yeah, we do have like lots of things coming up with the good guys. Yikes. Yeah, on Saturday. Dear Media, by night I'd say get your tickets, but it's sold out. Sorry. Oh yeah. We're doing a live show. I need to find an outfit and I need to stop

eating. Like I'm going to be on stage. I can't. Yeah. No, it's going to be fun. If you're there and like you're taking pictures from the stage, like just lift your cameras up. I think that we tilt them down, Face Tune them. No, I think it should be like a comedy show where we like confiscate people's phones. So they can't take unflattering photos of us. I love that. I think that feels right. I'll talk to your media about it. Yeah.

And it just creates mystique. Meanwhile, we're just insecure. Yeah, you have to buy tickets to be there. We're so cool. No, we're just insecure.

It's a little bit of both. Yeah, we're definitely cool, though. Definitely. Number two on the Apple charts yesterday. Oh my gosh. Thanks, West Wilson.

I'm glad that people are like finally seeing the beauty of the show. Like, I feel. You don't feel like they've seen, they had known. They've been. I know our listeners have, but we've obviously gone mass market recently. And the beauty and the range of what we do here is finally being spotlighted in a mainstream capacity.

And it feels great. Obviously, I miss when we were just like a little Instagram show and like, but it was time. You know, it was time for everyone to really see what goes on here in a meaningful way. The true beauty. Yeah, obviously I feel vindicated. I feel seen and it's great. I didn't know that was happening. If you say it, it will be.

So I'm obviously just, I'm just the same girl, you know, that I was. And I promise, like, I won't forget about you guys. So at number two on the Apple charts, you're the same girl that you were at number three in the Apple charts? I'm definitely a little bit more insufferable, but overall, like, we are the same, yes. Okay, that's good. That's good to know you haven't changed. Never changed.

Some people left fame change them, but for me, No. Yeah, you were always like this. Did you watch Summer House? I did and I watched last week's too So my recap will sort of span both episodes As I don't know which episode is which. I saw the funniest video on TikTok today

That like I have not stopped thinking about. Okay. Because you know, Jessus Solomon's on tour Which I gotta catch a show Singing my favorite song, Guess I'll Star And actually somebody's posted a video That the girl in front of them actually fainted And this is, sorry, it's not funny, at the Jesse Solomon Live show.

And you know, artists who are like so performative, like, wait, there's a girl in the front row who needs water. And, like, they have to stop their show just so they don't get, like, Travis Scottified. Well, Jesse Solomon's taking a page actually out of Travis Scott's book. And he didn't give a fuck. Like, I don't even think he saw. And he's, like, sing with the crowd. He's like, you sing. No, and they, like, I feel like the video tried to make him, like, look bad.

Like, someone fainted at the Jesse Solomon show. And, like, he didn't even stop the show. And that's just not how I, like, saw the video, you know? Oh, I would love to know how you saw the video. First of all, I don't think Jesse Solomon knew what was going on, honestly. There's just, like, a group of girls, like, standing around being dramatic at his show. Like, that probably happens every night. And I'm sure, actually, he was like, turn that racket down.

I'm trying to sing up here. Like, why are you having... And it was during his big hit? Like, why are you having a powwow in the middle of my concert? Why would he know that someone fainted? Because a Jesse Solomon show at the Trubedold isn't really where one would think it would be a destination for fainting, you know? I don't know.

I could see myself being so overcome. It's like Elvis Presley. At the Jesse Solomon Trubinor show, I actually could see myself sort of getting weak at the knees. Yes, perhaps, because he is a modern day Elvis Presley. But I just wonder what the circumstances were. Because like sometimes people faint at concerts, you know, they're on drugs. Or it's very hot. I didn't think that this person was on judge.

No, no, no. So those, like, Jesse Solomon concerts, like don't go so hard. So obviously the person who was suffering had their own things going on. The blood sugar. Yes. So it's just, you know, it's not what you would think is happening at the Jesse Solomon show at the Trubidor. Absolutely. You don't think she's rolling for the Jesse Solomon show?

Maybe the Molly hit her sideways. Guess I'll stop. Fallin. Period. Yeah. Seriously, funny stuff. I also feel we'll get into it in the recap, but I do think that part of the fight last night

was largely Jesse Solomon's fault and nobody was pointing the finger at him. Why would he do? Like literally he's gassing up. They kept doing flashbacks like the wedge between Carl and Kyle all summer. And every time someone was telling Kyle like something Carl's upset about, it was Jesse.

They're like, Jesse was really upset you didn't say anything about his brother. Jesse wrote out a whole email. Not Jesse, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm like, what? Carl was upset about that you didn't say invest in lever bar. Carl was upset that you didn't say anything about his brother. Carl wrote a whole email because he was so upset, but then he literally was like starting stuff between the two of them the whole season.

I just want to say I blame Jesse Solomon for last night. Oh no, I fully blame Lindsay Hubbard, period. Trying to hold a marriage counseling session in front of the whole house after a day of day drinking. Just a little bit about me. I would never blame Lindsay Hubbard for anything. It doesn't change how I feel about Lindsay Hubbard. Like she's creating television.

and she's doing her job. But like if I'm just evaluating the situation, like why was she pushing that conversation so hard? And having a very hard time understanding the term management does not mean residency. Yeah, yeah, the residency. Maybe the residency is the friends we made along the way. No, like he signed with management.

No, I actually really appreciated Ben because he was the only one who could like have a cohesive thought. But he was just saying like because I'm with the management, I'm going to be playing bigger, better shows. I actually will have to travel less. I have one big show in Vegas. Everyone's like, he's doing a residency. In Vegas.

And he didn't tell his wife. Like, what part of that was residency? So I assume our fifth and final story will be a summer house recap. No, actually, we have like five little stories and then a separate summer house recap. I'm okay with that. So we will save all of our thoughts and feelings for. A lot of thoughts. Oh, my God.

Last night I was actually wheezing in bed because I found the funniest Twitter account called Justice for Kyle Cook. And it's quite literally authored by Kyle Cook. No, it's literally like the Club Salome version of the Kyle Cook fandom where it's like derange takes from Kyle Cook's number one fan. And talking about the alleged rumor that I've never heard that Kyle Cook is hung like a horse.

I was like, I've never seen you laugh so hard. I couldn't even speak. And it was so stupid. Like the girl obviously hates Amanda. She actually has accused her of, like, trying to gone girl Kyle, a year's long, a years long gone girl process that she almost got away with if she had, like, just gotten divorced and not fucked it all up. Because she would have been, like, Kyle's victim.

And of course, she, club shallame. She, club salome thinks that that would be so, like, not the truth. Club cook. But she, like, keeps calling her Amanda Buttula. Like, and she called her Amanda butt cheese. This is so stupid. He's so stupid. That's funny.

Who is a strange individual? I was crying laughing. Oh, who's the adranged individual? Her name is Kyle Cook. Kyle, Kylie Cook. Kylie on therapist. Kylie on therapist, set your alarms noon today. I might have to move my mage game.

Literally. I just want to say, like, I love Kylie. I'm sorry, I mean Kylie on platypus. Platapus as David. Bornoy lovingly calls him. That's such a fucking sleigh. No, I can't wait. And he gets amazing guests.

And like every guest he has, I'm like, oh, that's going to be a great episode. But I'm never like pulled. It takes a lot for me to listen to someone's podcast considering me podcast all day. Like I'm a mother of three.

It just, I've cleared my schedule for this. And you know she like doesn't do podcast. But she's like dabbling. She just did that kid cuty one. Yeah. Yeah. And so whatever podcast she goes on like is going to get listened to.

She doesn't need the platform. She brings the platform. So she's just choosing shows. She, wants to go out of like conversation she wants to have because like the kid cutty when I saw some clips and stuff but like it's not super swirly like no Jake Shane is going to have a swirrelly conversation which is the you know it's like when Kim goes on those random podcasts to talk about like women's health or something like that's that's not what I'm clicking into or like criminal

justice but if she went on I guess she did go and call her daddy and I don't think I listen but you know what I'm saying yeah yeah well maybe I'm just she not Kylie right now such a flattering choice for I'm sure Jake Shane was just, like, flattered because, like, she chose. She's not promoting anything. He's the chosen one. It's a really big deal. I wonder if, no, you know what? Like, I just love that.

I can't wait to watch. Also, speaking of, like, not promoting anything but going on podcasts, like, I actually am starting to, like, believe the rumors about you that, like, you're promoting something. Because I, I organically saw you on a podcast. I didn't even know you were, like, I knew you did two podcasts because, like, Amanda Hirsch, it's your friend and Susie Weiss launch a podcast. So, like, okay, it was like, you. like, you know, when it rains, it pours, you just happened.

It was a coincidence. But then they just saw you on a third podcast. Yeah, and I feel like I really haven't made a big deal of the fact that I am one of the new faces of Dolcalax and their new Daily Gut Support Gummies. This is not sponsored. I mean, I am sponsored, but this episode is not. And I just feel like, yeah, being the face of a major, major brand, I have to do press. I'm sorry.

You're sort of like going on a press tour. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like, I'm genuinely sorry. But that's what happens when you're like a major mover and shaker. It's like Alex Arles, just sports illustrated what you are to dole Alex. Like going on a press tour. It's a good analogy except that obviously like my cultural impact is much larger. But yeah. And she's one of four. And I'm one of one. Actually, I'm a dull wax face as well. Yeah. But your campaign like hasn't started yet. So like right now I'm the face.

Oh my God. I wonder if I'm going on podcasts. You probably are. And I just want to say like get ready. The life of being like a brand spokesperson, it's not easy. Obviously I make it look easy. People look at me and they say, oh my God. When I was watching those clips, I was like, wow, she's having an easy time. And I just met you know I was sweating so much in that clip. Like I make it look easy and that's what I feel like is my responsibility as like one of the world's hardest jobs. Like I'm a podcaster and content creator.

You tried doing it for a day. I literally just got off of work and it's 519. Try being an influencer for a day. Try it. Like when you go on other podcasts like what do you like to talk about? What do you like when do you feel like you're in your flow state? I'm at it. Obviously it turns out.

But like what facet of your life? Do you like when people talk about pop culture with you? Hate. Yeah. And that's, listen to my personal life as well. If I see you in person, don't try to ask me about last night's episode of Summer House. Oh, my God. If I see you in person, don't be like, wait, tell me what's going on with West and Amanda.

Oh, oh. If it's you a person and you ask me for an explanation, it's like, well, I charge like $3,000 an hour. So I hate when people ask you about pop culture. And what sucks is like my friend group, like the reason why they are my friends is like they love pop culture and they love bravo. So whenever we get together, like that's what we do. do. And it's not my favorite topic of conversation, but I'm not going to bring my baggage

to the table. I'll just partake in the conversation and shut up. Oh, I didn't even tell you what I did yesterday. I played in a charity mahjong tournament. It wasn't a tournament. It was just like, just an event. So how did it work? I saw that you did that. But like was it around Robin? Was there a winner? No, no. So you had to sign up as a table, like a foursome. So it was just like a fun social way to like friendless losers need not apply? Correct. So you wouldn't have been invited? Wow. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. call me friendless. You can't stick me with that. I'm kidding. I'm absolutely kidding. I have a lot of friends. I feel like I'm on a singer.

You have about 60, right? I have a lot of great girlfriends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I heard they're all buying you a Gucci purse for your birthday. They would. They like that they would. Because they love you so much. Yeah. Um, so it. I wouldn't want it. I wouldn't want it. I take mahjong like so seriously and like I play competitively. And this is very much like a social affair. Well, it was nice to see everyone. I just wanted the games to like move quicker. And everyone was like stopping for lunch and like chatting with friends and was like, can you? you but just stop eating and play. So then I did get a game together last night after bedtime because I hadn't gotten my fix.

And I did get my fix. Oh, good. I'm playing today. So am I. And tomorrow. Like the way I've neglected my job, my children, my dog, my husband, since I became like a full-blown mahjong addict, I don't even think it's necessarily a bad thing because I'm just like stimulating my mind and, you know, building friendships that'll last a lifetime.

Yeah. But I definitely do feel like the business is suffering. my family is suffering. Like when I get off my phone, like seriously like so much going on. Like emails, gnat it. Like it's insane. But like I don't care.

Well, on the days that I don't play, so I probably play like in a two hour window when it's like relatively quiet around here. So I try and think of like what I'm doing that I, that I'm not doing. So I say the things that suffer on the days that I mage, like probably home cooked dinner

because whatever I didn't do in those two hours I'm doing in the following two hours, you know? Yeah. And to be clear, I'm 100% kidding. I actually slay. I go two and a half hours during the halftime

and it's actually perfect. And like I'm probably behind on some ads, you know? Probably got some content to shoot. My house isn't as clean as I would like it to be but that's okay. Like I've missed out on probably 30 minutes of puttering around

and putting away laundry. I love puttering now. I'm fucking always puttering, walking back and forth and back and forth and like moving things and then like oh I had to bring that one. Scooping things like everything I used to go to the kitchen. Come with me.

Little pile here and then distributing the pile to the various rooms. So some of that time is lost. And you know what? I'm happy to lose it. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, let's get into the stories

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No, that was wild from Craig because you could, let me tell you about the exchange, but you could tell that she did not know that he was going to ask this and she was not happy. So I also feel like he didn't really know what he was talking about. He was just like, he knew he had to ask this question. If he knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't have asked the question because like he would know that it's like, you know, she. doesn't want to talk about it today.

So they probably just told him to do it and he didn't know it was a big deal. He couldn't even say, and I actually found it quite misogynistic. Like Craig, who? Like, he couldn't even say Alex Cooper's name. They definitely had like an agreement for her to go on that you could not ask about Alex Cooper. So then like the producers probably wrote him this question in a round about way. That's what I don't think it was out of disrespect.

I think it was like, it was giving misogyny. It's like. It was giving Alex Cooper is a no go. Got it. The words. So this is what Craig said. There's been this back and forth between you and another internet personality. a podcaster as well.

And there seems to be a bit of online beef there. What's actually happening? What's really going on? So boomer. Like, so boomer. Of all the places, we're all waiting for her. We're like, is it going to be TikTok? Is it going to be get reality?

Is it going to be Netflix? It ain't going to be the Today Show, first of all. So when I respect Craig's delusional hustle, I didn't expect much from her. I actually don't even think. I think they set Craig up, the producers because nobody who knows, and nobody who knows anything about the situation

would have asked the question on her big day. And this was her response. You could tell she was pissed. She said, you know, well, I'm trying to keep things pretty positive today. We don't actually have that much time here, honestly. And also, it's like, why ruined such a good day with something not so great? Let's keep the positive vibes going. And Craig could not be deterred.

He kept going. He hit her with a follow-up. He asked if there was legitimate contentiousness or if the beef had been exaggerated. And then she, like, sarcastically said, no, it's exaggerated. I love everyone. And then Craig said, Craig said he wasn't buying it. He's a smart cookie. Oh my God.

Craig is like so crazy. Yeah. I actually don't think that he like knew that much about the situation because. If he did, he would never. He looks so silly. He kind of looks like crazy. I know, but how do you have Alex Earle on right now and not ask about it? But I am sure that her team said you cannot talk about it.

So this is was their solution to Today Show. And I'm sure she's pissed about it. Yeah, it's just funny that like the Today Show is like always running out of time. They're cutting people off. They're cutting to commercial. but meanwhile they had time for this two follow-ups. Yeah. I understand all parties here, but like I don't know how she could expect to not be asked about it,

like two weeks after the biggest news in the country. But I'm sure her PR team was like, we're not coming on if you're going to ask about it. And so they said we won't ask about it. And then they crossed her. I actually don't feel like she had a choice as to whether or not she could go on the show because like all the four cover stars went on the Today Show. And like it's just a prerequisite that you have to do the press associated. So I'm sure they said like, you know, friendly publicist like, hey, let's not

go here. And I honestly wouldn't have expected that they would have. But they did. Yeah. Also, did you see Dave's latest T by the C talking about how he isn't thrilled with how Alex has handled this so far? Sort of like skirting around the issue. That's when he brought platypus into it. Yep. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are that like once again, I'm deeply biased. So like I just ride for Alex Earl. I'm like she wins. She's my. my queen, but if I were to take my biased hat off, which I don't want to, but I'm just going temporarily set it down and then put it back on. Like, and I think that the internet is also having the same thing as me. Like, we just like Alex Earle. And so we like, we're rooting for her.

Yeah, but like, can you just say it? It's like getting annoying. Yeah. I think that, and Dave said this, he was like, I'm not like, in my world, like, if you start a fight with someone, like, you better come correct. You better say it with your whole chest, like, me, me in the parking lot. And so her like, you know, just like throwing these like darts and like running away is not like the school that he comes from. And and not for me either. Like, and I've said that like the way that she's handling it is so, I guess, Gen Z like it's just every move is just not what I would expect. But I do think it's working for her. Absolutely.

I don't know if it's because the moves are good or just she has so much goodwill that it doesn't matter what she does. That's what it is. But it is, it is working. It's not my style of feuding. Yeah. And I guess it's not Alex Cooper. either because she was sort of like a let's you know let's confront one another yeah and i think that Alex Cooper no one will give her the credit because we're just like the internet's in and i hate

Alex Cooper mode um but she did sort of like shut the whole thing down she like posted this sort of aggressive video wanting a response and she didn't get one and like if you were to look at it more and i'm not i'm not looking at it more unbiased but if you were it does look like Alex early sort of ran scared Now I know everyone's saying like she's going to put it on her show and it's like, hey, maybe she will. But like for now, can just tell us? Also like as long as she doesn't say what happened, like, you know, Alex Cooper remains unchallenged. Yeah. And, you know, for a minute there felt like there was a singing ship over there.

But I don't know. With Alex Cooper. With Alex Cooper. But like she's still doing her podcast. Like the more time goes by, the more people like move on from it. I feel like she's sort of like dip, dodge, dived from this. And she's like, and she's staying afloat. And this is not going to take her down.

And so now whatever comes out on Netflix. And this big mysterious Vanity Fair article, which like hasn't come out yet. Right. Which so until those things happen, like she's afloat. And I do think the more that time goes on, the less power. Power. Absolutely. That's what I think.

I agree. And I think now with like the perspective of hindsight, even people who were like eating it up at the time, like she did eat the fuck out of Brianna chicken fry. Like I'm sorry. She literally ate her up, shoot her up. and spit her the fuck out. Yeah. So at the time, everybody was like, it's weird

that she's sending the messages, but now, like, now let's all take a look back. Like, no, like, Brianna Chicken Fried inserted herself right in the middle of it. Alex Cooper's like, what are you talking about? We have this actually quite long history of me being lovely and gracious to you. What is good? What is this? And if I'm chicken fry, I'm mad at my friend Earl for leaving me out to dry.

Absolutely. Because she looks stupid. Yeah, but she shouldn't have put herself in the middle of it anyway. I think she probably did that without Alex Earl's permission. And I was like, I don't have to come, You put yourself here. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. What else was Dave saying? I forget. But he also said that he wanted to go on platypus to promote his book. But Jake Shane wouldn't have him on. Like he said he declined. That was at the end. That's when he started.

I don't think he has like beat necessarily with Jake Shane. But he was saying like Jake Shane's so brand safe. I don't know how Jake Shane got involved in this. And then Dave. And also I don't think Jake Shane is brand safe. No, Claudia. He is. Yeah.

But brand safe implies like boring and like bad taste. No, like you can be brand safe and be cool. Like some people can do it. It's very hard because I feel like brand safe quickly becomes like not entertaining. Yeah, but they're like brand safe can also just be like great. Hasn't had controversy yet. Everybody loves them, popular and also talented. It could be talented.

It doesn't necessarily mean untalented. But like Jake Shane does have, I mean, sorry, I'm just, let me acknowledge my bias too. Like I'll defend Jake Shane until I die. But he does have like controversy. see the little things it's something they have not bubbled up to the surface no not real not real yeah yeah uh so i guess yeah Dave wanted to go on like oh his team was putting out podcast for when his book comes out

and he was like what one said he'll go on and he i guess was interested in Jake Shane and then Jake Shane didn't like want to do it well I'm I I don't know if Jake Shane's refusal of Dave Portnoy has anything to do with Dave being too like radioactive or Alex Earl. But Dave Pornow and Alex Rar are fine and he has not Yeah, according to Dave. No, but he has not taken a position.

And in some breaths, he's critical of Earl and in some breaths he's critical of Cooper. I feel like he's really played the fence and played it well while still been very interesting commentator. Yes, but he is Alex Cooper's like friend, mentor, confidant, whatever. So like, yeah, he's not going to go on it on,

he's not going to go on. on Jake's podcast. Like, yeah, no, I understand. I can see Jake declining it, like, in defense of Alex Earl. Even though, yeah, he hasn't done anything. I don't think Alex Earl loves Dave Portnoy, to be honest. I think they're fine.

I don't think he said anything that he wouldn't be able to look her in the eye. No, for sure. But, like, when you're coming up with that conclusion, like based on what Dave says, like, he's like, we're great. Yeah, she comes apart. No, but even in when he's talking about the situation, I've not heard anything like unkind.

I think Alex Earl. She's the girl's girl and everybody loves, like, positive things about her. I don't know. I don't think it's become negative. No, but I think Alex Earl hates state porn. And I also think, like, Alex Earl's sad probably hates state porn. Really? Yeah, just a feeling.

Just a feeling. Interesting. Well, I wonder what podcasts he will go on for his book. I want to read his book. Cancel me. Cancel me if you kind of story of Barstool. And it's a great title. It's a great title, but I don't know if I'm going to read it.

I think I will. I can barely pick up strangers bell burden. I know. I think we'll be funny. Yeah, no, I'm sure it'll be interesting. But, like, I just don't know if I'm personally going to read it. I think I'm going to give it a shot. There was something else coming out that I want to read.

Are you going to read Lena Dunham's book? You know what? I really want to. I know. She's really doing the most. I know. I'm struggling. All this, like, propaganda.

It's working on me. It's working on me. I was talking about that. I'm not kidding enough at. that like I think that if I were to be able like if I were to be able to take off my I hate Lena Dunham goggles I'd probably be her number one fan and like I would be defending her like I defend like lively like for real because the thing is like so much of the Lena Dunham for hate is forced it's because she's fat like sorry like people hate fat people hate she gets more hate for the things that people hate her for it's like outsized I believe it's largely rooted in fat phobia not to be like so woke but it's true I personally don't care that she's fat people love her for really for really really long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did.

But, like, you know, you can only tolerate, society only tolerates Faddy for so long. So you think that she expired. Aps fucking Lutley. Okay. Now, my hate of her obviously has nothing to do with her weight because I would never.

It's more so just to do with like her insides. Mm-hmm. But I do sort of want to read the book. She's talented. She's very complicated. It's like Ben Platt. It's like Ben Platt. Like, Ben Platt, like, release an amazing song.

Like, I guess I have to listen to it, you know? Yeah, of course. I'm just like afraid that like a book is so personal. Like Ben Platt can release a song and I'll listen to it and I'll still hate Ben Platt but I love the song. If you read someone's book, that's like their insides. Yeah. You have, if you love the book, you love the person.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm afraid to start loving. I really am. Loving Lena. I don't know if I can do it. I feel like you could. I'm fine with that.

You know, sometimes you have your guilty pleasure. Yeah. Like I think she might be guilty pleasure. Honestly. That's fine. Don't like. But I don't like. But I don't know if she's my guilty pleasure because I don't even let myself be curious.

Like I don't even let myself go there. Don't deny yourself. You know, because who are you hurting? She doesn't care. You're hurting yourself. Postpartum, like one of the shows we started was girls that had never seen it. And like I obviously watched it once when it was out. And people talk about it prolifically.

Like it's the sex in the city. And like it kind of is. To a point. Of course. It's like it's Brooklyn. Maybe like to the, no, maybe to like the end of the second season. But then it got really bad. And it's like indie and it's not like, it's not fabulous at all.

Like the apartments are dirty and the clothes are ugly. Like it's not like to sit in like that. Raddy shirt. With holes in it like 100%. And it's like it's like it's like I sure wear a reddy shirt with holes in it. It's like I don't care what you wear to sleep. But like I'm watching television. Even Jessa who is like the quintessential like fabulous character.

Like she's the one with, you know, worldly wisdom and. travel and clothes. Like, it's all just like gray. Like, yeah, no, and it's like if Jess is the fabulous character, that explains why I don't like the show. Yeah. Because that's like not my idea of fabulous. I just want to warn everyone that I'm definitely like dangerously close to entering my way to understand.

You know what? I'm gonna, I give you my support. Okay, you know, that actually really helps because I do feel like fear of judgment from you. Like it's stopped me from even picking up the book. You know what I mean? Be curious. It's also good to like like just engage with things even if you wind up not like it.

It's just good to like engage with things. Not everything has to be like so, you know, an echo chamber. You're right. You're right. Okay. So now I have two books to read. Oh, great. I don't think you're going to read strangers about.

I am. Okay. I am. Okay. It's okay if you don't. There's just been like a lot going on. I gave my recap to the Redhead. So like I have closed that chapter of poppers.

I want to. Like I have a desire. And it's just been like a lot going on with pop culture that like when I get into at night. I have to watch stuff so I could talk about on the toast. I know. I know. Also, my nights are not mine anymore. Have you heard about this Tradwife book yesteryear? Sounds familiar. Yeah. Rebecca chose it for next month for the redheads, which is like good because it's buzzy and everyone's talking about it. But I know I'm going to hate it. We talked about it. Yeah, because it's like the trad wife life is not the life that you

think it is. And it's like making fun of influencers and like trad wife and like ballerina. It's like definitely anti-ballerina farm. Basically, it's like a trad wife influencer like wakes up in 1885 and actually has to live the life. Oh, God. Yeah, obviously she's like glamorized, like a horrible thing. What she's cos playing. Like, I could throw up. Yeah, yeah.

And, like, from the reviews I've read, like, it's very, like, you know, anti and, like, makes a mockery. So, check us out on the redheads, but also already Anne Hathaway. It's being turned into a movie, and Ann Hathaway is playing the drag wife. Oh, my God. She is the new Daisy Edgar Jones. Like, oh, there's a book. Let's call Anne.

Daisy's sort of been left in the dust. Well, these are, like, older characters. Like the two of them, one of them could play the younger version. Younger version. I love that. There's space for both. Yeah. Okay, let's get into our next story because again, like it's only story number two.

I don't know. Wow, that's really crazy. Olivia Jade launches her own beauty brand. So Olivia Jade has launched her brand called O Picola. O Picola. O Picola, thank you. Salma. I only watch the videos without sound.

So O Picala on May 12, She debuted her hero product, the bronze and glow bomb, which she has been teasing on social media for the past few days. She spoke to People Magazine exclusively saying, I'm just so nervous to put something out for the first time, and I really wanted to be perfect. She said that this product was roughly five years in the making. Five years ago, she started the process of building a brand with a manufacturer, I think, in California, and it was just, like, not going well, and she, like, scrapped the whole project.

And then after years of back and forth, she found a manufacturer in South Korea that she was able to work with. And she has like her dream products of a dual-ended little number. It's like a contour stick. Like a bronzing stick and a highlighting stick, but it's dual-ended. Each one has two sides and there's three different shades. So one thing about me is I'm an OG Olivia Jade fan. I used to watch her YouTube videos.

I never turned on her in the college admission scandal. Like I've always been ride or fucking die. Like she just wanted to get an education. I'm like just sorry I don't give a fuck. Honestly, I just don't. Yeah. And I will ride for her probably till the day, like, she and I both die. But actually I have nothing in common with her.

She's one pound so young and has perfect skin. And so when I see her to her makeup tutorials, I'm like, oh, that's fun to watch. I'm not picking anything up because I need layers and layers and layers of foundation and concealer cake ton. So I actually feel like this product is not for me because she's such like a sheer natural glam girly, which is like what the young kids love now. And it's like, yeah, she's going to love that when you're young. Yeah.

Sorry, I need more. I need, you know, old lady makeup. Well, she did say her mother tried it and she loves the product. Once again, Lori Lachlan, like a perfect angel among us. No offense. Like, you and I have more needs than Lori Lachlan. Like, she has a perfect face. Like she went to jail and she still looks better than me.

Like, sorry. So, yeah, while these are people I deeply love and admire, when it comes to actually following trends, I am watching the tutorials of like beat down ugly old ladies with wrinkly skin. And like facial hair, not the Lachlan Jade family, unfortunately. But I love them and I'll purchase it because I'm a supporter. Yeah, it's a cute little product. She said, you know, throw it in your bag, just give a little sprits.

By the way, does anyone ever do that? Or maybe I just like, maybe my lifestyle right now. I'm not like touching up in the bathroom. Oh, I am. What do you mean? I leave the house and I come back. Oh, no. My purse has a bronzer, a blush, and a brush.

And when do you redo it? So I do my makeup in the mornings. And then I have like two hours before I actually leave the house where I'm like doing breakfast and like, you know, doing lots of stuff. Then I get here, I touch up, but that's because I'm on camera. And then if I'm out for the day, my purse, like in the bathroom, I do touch up bronzer and blush always. It like doesn't stay on my face. Powder? Both.

Creamy? Powder, powder, blot. Broder. Road like creamy blush. I guess I could add a little more blush throughout the day. Bringing one of those road, it's called a pocket blush because it's supposed to stay in your pocket for lip and cheese. for lip and cheek touchup, it's kind of parching. I don't know.

It doesn't appeal to me right now. Like to put on more makeup. I just sort of put it on in the morning and, you know, like that's crazy to me that you put it on in the morning and that's it. But like what I need at four o'clock when I'm just like running around. Oh, no, no, I don't need to have four. I'm saying if I have stuff to do, like out, if I have front facing events. From a pile of stuff.

Correct. Well, this is cute. Oh, Piccolo. Did she say why she called it that? Yes, such a fucking sleigh. You know what it means? In like Italian or some shit. And like this is why my brand I need to find, like it could never be called this, ready?

It's called petite. O dot petite? It's giving like, no, O picilla means petite in like some language. It just means like you're fat and I'm skinny. Like that's basically what she said. And the O dot. Is there a dot? Yeah, it's O period picola.

Is that just the Instagram username? Because they needed like a... Everywhere on this article. O Picola. I saw a video of her talking about that it means petite. And it's like a little petite little makeup thing. Founder Opicola. O dot Picola.

Yeah, it's like very... Yeah, I saw Acquired style in Paige Lorenz like wearing it. And it's like, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Like perfect skinny. But acquired and Paige need makeup too, Claudia. Not in the way that I do.

Yeah. But also what's interesting is that she funded this herself. It's not like a big venture firm. Sephora. Yeah. So it's an interesting move for her considering I felt like she was retired. You know? I know.

And who would want to get back? Because like the beauty space already, the comments. It's overpriced. Cheapackaging. Looks like pixie. Like who the fuck would voluntarily like put themselves in this world? Like she doesn't have to. Yeah.

She doesn't. I think she genuinely loves me. up like this is a true labor of love and so like that's admirable but like I can't imagine somebody wanting to get back into this game yeah yeah she made it out with her life it sort of is a surprising move like because she doesn't need to work this hard especially she's not being funded by like one of these reall activist firms that does brands for people venture capital like why putting all your money into this no clue well are you ready for our next story I am a dancing with the stars cast member has been revealed. So as reported, we have Mora, Rob, Sierra Miller, and now Savannah Bananas,

Jackson Olson. It's actually such a good castor. Yes. So the Savannah bananas are a minor league baseball team that go viral all the time for videos and dances that they do. They've like incorporated like a bunch of like dancing and choreography. I don't know if they ever play baseball. They do. They do. But they're literally a traveling performer. But they're also like an, Yeah, the founders of the team, they mix standard baseball with additional entertainment, incorporating choreograph, dance, moves, sing-alongs, and even a player taking the field in stills.

Yeah, and they have amazing content that goes viral. And Jackson is like their number one dancer. But is he the one who did the backflip on TV and broke his neck? Do you remember that? I remember that. I don't think, I don't. I actually think it was him.

Can we get a fact check on whether or not that was Jackson? Yeah. Because remember when we were talking about that? Like that story pained me deeply. That was really hard. But in general, I don't follow the Savannah bananas, but sometimes they come up for me.

Like, I love what they do. I think it's like so joyful. It's so family friendly. It's joyful. People fucking love them. I actually saw the founder on a podcast. It was like an entrepreneur's podcast because this company is like worth close to a billion dollars.

Like they crush. And they were like asking about these entrepreneur questions. He was like, who gives a fuck? Like I just, he's like he doesn't really raise the price of his tickets. It's always going to remain like this family friendly affordable. He doesn't care if they go, you know,

get a billion dollar exit. He was like, I'm just having the time of my life. He was like this crazy guy wearing like a yellow blazer and a yellow hat. Like it's really sweet. And I actually think it's an amazing casting for dancing with the stars. I think so too. It brings up family friendly energy, their dancers.

Also I think he would be a really good dancer. I think people will like him and his personality. Not that I know him, but like it just is a really good energy. And I think he'll go far and I'm excited. And I want more people to know about Savannah bananas. And also I want to know more about myself. I only like passively see them sometimes.

I can't believe you like have never been. Like that's something you would go to with your kids. But they're in Savannah. But they travel, right? Like, they do shows, like literally at stadiums. So they play, like, the minor, I need to find that the minor Florida team. I love that the minor leagues are getting their moment. They deserve it.

They deserve it. Also, they have a really large fan base, and I think that'll be good for, like, votes and stuff. Yeah. No, I think it's great. Very cool. Me too. Out of the box thinking. Agreed.

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And Tert G1, our sponsor. Our fourth story, Katie Perry mourns Josh Groban romance after he announces his engagement. So Katie Perry just, I don't know, speaking to me directly. Yeah. She posted a video of herself, like, drinking alongside the news of Josh Grobin and his fiance, getting engaged with the song, the one who got away playing. So I'm not sure. sure if I knew on a conscious level that the one that got away was about Josh Grubin.

I'm not even sure if I knew that these two dated. I knew that they dated. That devastates me that I've been walking this earth without this information. No, I know. But it's like once you know it, then it just hurts so bad that they didn't wind up together. Obviously, think of the music. It really, really hurts. And like, the fact that he's the one that got away and, like, she's, like, bummed that he's

engaged. Like, it's not too late for them. I do want to say, I think the video is insanely inappropriate. Of course. And beyond crazy thing to post when you yourself are in a long, like, serious relationship with a former prime minister. And Josh Grobin, who literally you haven't been with in 20 years, is now engaged. Like, beyond inappropriate. Who acts like this.

But I just want to say, like, you only post a video like this when you seriously don't give a fuck about the guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. This just confirms, like, these two are never getting back together. She does not care what he thinks of her, how embarrassing this is. Because, like, if you actually held a candle for someone, like, you would not behave this way. Like, this is what you do when you actually don't give any fucks. Absolutely, positively.

This, like, this trope of her, him and the one that got away, like, does remind me of Taylor, Taylor Lawtoner and back to December where, like, that's her one that got away. But it's like, I'm sorry, I just don't like you, you know? Yeah, it's a great analogy, too, because both back to December and the one that got away are, respectively, each of those artists, like, most devastating songs. Like, it's funny that we're being so light about one of the saddest songs ever. The one that got away is, like, a true heart-runcher. No, but it is. But it's like, you're an amazing person. in another life I would be your girl,

I just don't like you ugly. You know, I can't, I can't love you. Like, you are the one that got away. I let you get away because I don't like your ass. But back to December wasn't. No, back to December was like, I kind of like gave you no time of day. And now when I look back on that, like that was wrong.

For sure. But like if I could do it again, I would do it the same way because I don't like you. No, no, but she's saying back to December, like she wants to go back to December so she can redo it because I think she actually realized like, never mind, I actually do like you. so she could dump him again.

She wants to go. No way. Do you think the Lawdners are going to be at Taylor and Travis's wedding? Oh, yeah. One of my favorite games to play. He did the backflip. One of my favorite games to play.

Who will be at Taylor and Travis's wedding? Because also when she was on the Graham Norton show, she very much was like, it's a free for all. Everyone's invited. But I don't think that's true. And I think just because you were invited to the Erez tour, literally everyone was invited to the ERIS store. Oh, no.

But on stage at the ERIS tour? Yeah. If you were at the tent, everyone's at the tent. But if you were on stage doing a backstor's tour, flip and you like literally almost broke your back for the hours tour and you're in the music video like I think you're invited and you're back to December well that would mean that there uh that would mean florids Welsh which I do feel like she would be there do you think Marcus Mumford sure you know what I wonder if this is on polymergers like predictions baby bridges hold on I wonder if it's on

polymarket like um Gracie Gracie Abrams definitely oh maybe she'll bring a new boyfriend oh so Okay, wait, here, look, who will attend Taylor and Travis's wedding? Jack Antonoff, 94%. I feel like, yeah. Patrick and Brittany Mahomes are also up there. Selina Gomez, Sabrina Carpenter, all like 80%. Max Martin. Are people okay?

Of course, in Shelbach. No way. They did. It's a co-worker. You invite your co-workers to your wedding. Lana Del Rey. Alana Haim. That's mean.

Blake Live. I love that you can predict this stuff on Polly Market. Like, seriously, finally putting my, my skills. So you could use. Polly Market. And also you can use code toast, download the new app. T-O-A-S-T, skip the wait list. Ooh, I love that.

Okay, listen to this. Okay, I'm listening. I'm so glad you made time to see me. Oh, sorry, I didn't realize. I was still reading this. I didn't realize we were doing a performance. How's life? Okay, tell me, how's your family?

Okay, let's get to the chorus. I haven't seen you in a while. Okay. See, this is it. This is it. So this is me swollen my pride stand in. front of you saying, I'm sorry for that night. And I go back to December all the time. It turns out freedom ain't nothing but missing you. Wish and I'd realized what I had when you were mine.

I'd go back to December, turn around and make it all right. I'd go back to December, turn around and make it all right. I'd go back to December, turn around and change my own mind. Yeah, right. But. Because in December, she said, I don't like you, but she wants to go back to December or change her own mind to say, actually, no, I do like you. No, I think it's like, I think that's classic. Like when you end things with someone, then you like look back and you're like, actually it was good. Like I wish I could have just like liked it, you know? You know, the streets by the streets, of course I mean the TikTok comment section,

I've gotten some personal information and then I've seen it reflected in like other rumors that Taylor and Travis are actually getting married in Big Sky, Montana. I've seen that as well. And she was also just out and about recently like today and yesterday wearing white and people are like, the wedding is imminent. It's like, why? People just think that because she's. She like wore a white dress.

No. Seed Montana, now New York City. Now the Hamptons, of course, Rhode Island. I think they're also putting out a lot of fake news. And I think that they should. South of France, you know, the girl who's getting married June 13th and they moved her wedding. Like, it's been going on for so long.

I think they're putting out a lot of big shit. Yeah. They, I don't think, maybe they won't even get married at any of these places. Right. And it'll be like a living room wedding with just Scott, Andrea, and Donna. And Jason. And Kylie, go birds. Women supporting women.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little more love news. Yeah. Because Cindy Sweeney has post a loved up video of her and Scooter Braun on vacation. A montage. A montage. She made a little video montage of their week in Australia, lots of kissing, dancing, beach going, handholdings.

Oh, I didn't realize it was like a week recap of their trip. I just thought it was like a vlog. I thought it was like, at first I was like, oh, it's a vlog of like a lot of moments in their time together, but no, it's from their most recent trip to Australia. So this is just like one week of their life. Their romance is very much giving like one of my novels where it's like really handsome billionaire who's obsessed with this girl and she's just like a bombshell but she's like just a normal girl.

With a heart of gold. Yeah, no, it's giving like Megan Quinn if you know, you know. Who wants love and has found it. Yeah. No, it's like, it's kind of crazy. It's really become like the cutest romance. They're going to get married. The cutest ship out in the sea right now.

They're going to get married. And I feel like she has a lot of business ventures that I feel are benefiting from her relationship too. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I feel like a lot of her career is like being a brand ambassador launching all these companies, the bath water thing. Like I feel like actually up until recently her career was kind of messy.

Like she needs someone to come and sort out her. She needs. a manager. Yeah, she needs a business manager. I think he is available. Yeah, and then she was like launching Siren and it just felt like kind of all over the place. It's very destroyed.

She needs someone to manage her affairs. And now it does feel like she's sort of getting her affairs in order. Yeah. Siren appears to be like a much more legitimate venture. I loved their pop-up at stage coach. Like I feel like that has to be his influence and involvement. Yeah, and I do think this season of Siforia, euphoria. Seporia.

That was filmed like probably almost a year ago at the, this point is sort of like getting in the way because her character I'm seeing so many clips of her character she's really wild and out she really is like the main character of this the entire show is like about her well for my perspective it's the show should be called Cassie Casoria Casoria because it's just her she grew into a monster did you see that? I saw that she was like Godzilla taking over the city she swatted a helicopter with her hair and then she like showed her boobs to the people in the window did you see that part? No, I didn't.

I must have missed that real. Yeah, no, last episode looked really crazy. There's been a lot of talk about it. But anyways. Yes. So I think she'll be like glad for- She booked L.A. nights. Oh, she was on the podcast with, um.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Trishamitas. With Trishabes. She booked L.A. nights. What's that? Oh, you didn't see those clips. I think it's like a role she really wanted. She got it.

I have no idea what's going on in the show. I'm happy for her. But I think she like also stepped on Maud Apatow's like toes. like Mont Appetam, I think is a writer from like this low level TV show and Cassie is like staying with her couch surfing. I don't know. I really kind of like want to watch a show now. It looks really good. Yeah. I haven't seen Zendaya. Oh, I saw Zendaya at the wedding. Oh no. Like Zendaya was like buried. Do you see that clip? Wait, what? It was really disturbing. I think Zendaya might be dead. I think they might have killed her. Or like you know, there always be like, it's a dream. Yeah. How did she be gross?

big Cassie. Yeah. What does I have to do with the show? I don't know. Like, I need to watch. I need to watch. But also the outfit she was wearing was the same night that she did drugs. So maybe it was like a hallucination.

Yeah, that's what I mean. They do. And there's a lot of drugs in the show. So like, I don't know if Rue is sober, but like when she was actively in drug addiction, she was always having these like dream sequence like hallucinations. I think maybe, I think Rue is maybe dead. Or she like overdosed in her. dreams or something.

Yeah, but it was a really crazy scene that I saw. It's so funny. I see the clips. The show comes out Sunday night, right? Yeah, and then Monday morning. Monday morning. I love it. Yeah, no, I'm really enjoying the season of Euphoria.

As am I? And enjoying the season of Scooter and Sydney. I hope they get married and live happily ever after. Totally. Do you think they'll be invited to the wedding? Yeah. I do. Let's get into Summer House.

Okay, so the big driveway fight I just have, I have one word to say when it comes to the driveway fight, three letters. Loser on Luser crime. One word, three letters. Ick. Like, seriously, Carl, like, and I love Bailey because, like, she's a sweet girl

and I actually really like her. And her saying, yeah, Carl getting his veins popping out, and it was so hot, he was being so angry, it was so sexy. There are a million words to describe what I felt when I was watching Carl, like call Kyle a loser. but not one of them was like hot or sexy. It was giving so, like, cringe.

No, but I actually love Bailey so much. And she's so sweet the way she described Carl. Carl doesn't deserve her. Carl does not deserve her. But you know what? Like, if she was really meant that, like there really is a lid for every pot. Like maybe she did think that was sexy.

Like, I want them to be together. She's so cute. I believe that they are not together. And it's because Carl doesn't like her. That's just what I feel like based on what she said, I watch up and live. They're not together. They didn't take it any further.

But I don't know what happens after the summer, but like, or maybe it's not too late. Maybe they're just like both sort of awkward and it's going to take a while to get them off the ground. But he doesn't deserve her. And he should, he should strike.

So the fight about Amanda and Kyle ended up becoming Carl and Kyle. It was so stupid. Like I seriously, and I do blame Jesse Solomon. Like he was largely responsible for what happened in that driveway. It was cringe. They made up.

and like I don't know where we got left with Amanda and Kyle. Like it was like no resolution. But of course there are a couple of nuggets worth discussing when it comes to West's involvement in. Now I am firmly right now believing that they have not started there a fair yet. But I do see the trappings. It's damsel in distress. It's hero, you know, victim up in the tower.

Like she when she was like, when you moved your chair and she's like on like the virgin tears, talking to West, like, when you move to your chair, and then they had that really long hug, and she's like, she's been holding it together the whole time. And then the second she's in West's arms, she starts to cry. Like, no, no, like, they literally fell in love. It's kind of, it's romantic. Well, it's really hard not to, like, watch the whole fight, like, through the lens of, like, Amanda's a villainous, traitorous, disloyal liar. Yeah. Because if all of this West Mandeville stuff hadn't happened, we would watch a fight and been like, wow, Kyle is awful. she is, you know, mistreated and this is terrible.

But then when you watch the fight with a little bit of a shrewd eye towards Amanda, she is sitting there snickering when everybody starts to pile. You know, what the... She, like, is living for it the moment where everyone starts to, like, descend on Kyle. And then she sits back and lets it happen. And, of course, she doesn't need to defend him because what they're saying are how she feels and things that she's voiced to the girls and now they're taking up for her. But when he said, like, I feel so deserted.

Like, who would ever sit there at a table while someone piles on your husband? That's your husband. That's your family. Even if I agree with everything they're saying, like you ride or die. If I can't defend you and I don't want to defend you in any situation ever, like, that's, that's not love. Like, that's not support. That's not partnership. And so, like, I understand why she has issues with him.

I do. If my husband at 40 plus years old, like wanted to be a DJ traveling the country, like I would not like it. I wouldn't. But there are ways to like deal with things. And it's just so weird how they go the whole week in their apartment, I guess, together. And they probably don't speak at all. When Mia was like, I can't imagine what he does at home and no one's here.

I think it's nothing. I think these things only reach this level when they're with other people and they have to talk about their issues. I don't think they talk about anything when it's just the two of them. And it's like, is it that he's always, she's like mad that he's always leaving, right, to go and do his shows. But then also she wants time separate from him. Sierra's like they're on top of each other. They're together all the time. But then she also says he's never home.

So I don't know which one it is. And so watching the fight, like just for, you know, giving Kyle a little bit of like the benefit of the doubt. Grace. He is spiraling. He is so emotional. He's so hurt. The idea of separating is like so painful for him because like he actually like

loves his wife. Yeah. She is a weird way of showing it, but he does have love for her. She hates him. And what's that like to be with someone day in and day out who hates you? Who hates you? Who's always on the other side of things who doesn't have your back. and then when the rest of the house is sort of piling onto him about other stuff,

and he also is literally on the hook for almost $5 million. And his company is going, and he can't DJ fast enough to pay his bills. And then he's getting yelled at for DJing. And they're like, why aren't you home having babies with her? And he's like, she doesn't even want babies. Like, and she says one thing and then does another. And it's like that, I am very frustrated for him.

Now he should not say fuck you to his wife and certainly on the table in front of people. And the way he goes about everything is wrong. And he cannot manage his emotions. And like, I don't have time for people who can't, like, control their emotions. No, the only time he opens up is in an angry way. Yeah. Like, that's bad. No, and like that he could not calm down. Like, excuse me, sir, like you're in your 40s. Regulate, please. Like, let's, but also drinking doesn't help. They said he was like on the brink of blacking out. So like, stop drinking so much if you're like in such an emotional,

fragile state. But I did have like, I felt bad. I felt sorry for him because he, he's so distraught. Yeah. And I do want to say like, it's just so obvious. Like, obviously he's bad. He's He's wrong. He's yelling. He's DJing. But to a certain point, and I certainly don't want a victim blame, but like in a marriage like that, like people, like Kyle gets away with all this stuff because there's a precedent here, right? It's six or seven years of her, like really not demanding anything from her husband. Like, not that it's a woman's job, but like men are just sort of aimless. And I feel like when they get into a marriage, like they really become men and they get their lives together, so to speak, and they know how to act. And it's like this is a seven year long or 10 years. long relationship where it's like there's been really no accountability on Kyle for any of his actions. He has not been like demanded to be a good partner or a good husband. So obviously he keeps doing shit like this. Seriously, what do we expect? Yeah. Also like I think last season they had that conversation where she like said for the first time on camera that she didn't know if she wanted kids. And I imagine for him like that was a major betrayal. Not betrayal like a big turning point for him like

where it's like, because if they had started to have kids like last summer, then they would have, all of these issues while they would still be there, they would have been onto the next, you know, they might have like moved out of the city and started a family and been focused on those things. And he, you know, he's not going to actually DJ multiple nights a week when you have a child. That would be like insane. Insane.

And so if we're not doing that, then why can I go and DJ all the time and try and make money and work on my career? Like, seriously, why do I need to sit at home and look at each other? What else are we doing? Yeah. And it's not like there's other things that she wants to be. It's not like you have to have a kid or you have to go be a DJ, but it's like, what do I need to stay home for?

Why can't I go out and work? But like to have that conversation for the first time, like that revelation on TV, that's what I meant when I said betrayal. Like that's insane. Oh, to have that on TV, but also like I think if anyone not on TV or in general, like, if you marry someone and it always is like, we're going to, I'm marrying someone who wants to have kids because I want to have kids. And whether it's the man or the woman who at some point says, like, I don't know if I want to have kids.

like that must just be so destabilizing. Devastating, yeah. So I just think that now. Although I don't think Kyle Cook is like itching, you know, to get pregnant right now. No, no. But once that was sort of taken off the map and that's not your North Star, well then sure, let's go left, right, down, back, forwards. Right.

No, but seriously, like what does she need? She doesn't like him. So why do you want him home every night? You don't. You don't actually. You don't want him every night. So you just like want to complain that he's out DJing like trying. like trying to like piece together a living.

Yeah. So I also say, what? What else to say like I actually, when he was like seriously like frantic in the closet, like breaking down. In the closet. Putting on the ugliest outfit I ever saw in my life to go and apologize to her. Like he couldn't even put together an outfit.

Just want to say like I actually felt sorry for this person whose life is falling apart on every front. And I'm sure Amanda handles her emotions differently. But I also now have to look at her through the lens of I don't even know. A crazy person. Like you literally, I just saw the scene where she said she, out of nowhere, like nobody, nobody. Amanda, I would die for Sierra. If she told me to kill West, I would kill him on sight.

Yeah, but what she actually said was that I would never talk to him again if she asked me not to. And it's like, okay, but you had sex with him. I think she said she would kill him. No, no, she said she would cut him off. Oh, I thought she said. Maybe she meant, like, cut his head off. Yeah, I thought she said, like, if Sierra looked at me, like gave me the sign, I would kill him. Like, oh, I said if Sierra gave me the sign to cut him off, like, I would stop talking to him and never, like, speaking.

Oh, whichever one, they're both very extreme. It's like nobody even asked her to say something like that. So like, so to go from that to like six months later that you're falling in love with him is just really crazy. So when she's in bed with like Mia and Sierra, Sierra. And it's hard not to like, you know, look deeper into the way she's reacting, you know? Yeah, I know. Whereas before West Manabal, I would have just been like, wow, she is just so numb. Yeah.

She must have been through this so many times. Your husband says, fuck you at the table. and I didn't even see a tear, you know? Yeah, she was just sort of like. Yeah. Oh. But it did also, Justice for Kyle Cook says that it was part of her big, you know, gone girl. Right, that's a justice for Kyle Cook, the Twitter account says.

It starts these little fires. She knows Kyle's going to explode and give her the exact reaction that she wants on camera and that she walks away like that woman coming home drenched in blood. I respect her own kidnapping. I respect. Justice for Kyle Cook's, like, creativity. Although I think they're giving Amanda Batula, like, far too much credit. Yeah.

Because justice for Kyle Cook. Oh, she also calls Kyle Cook America's Dandy. What? Like that he's America's Dandy. What does that mean, Dandy? Like, I don't know, like his, like, our, like, handsome boy. And when she says, our, who is she referring to? Like, that's not right.

The country. He's like America's sweetheart, she thinks. Okay. Okay, Justice. Yeah, so Justice thinks it's like a years-long grip that Amanda's been playing this game to walk away from her marriage to Kyle Cook with him looking like the villain and her looking like the victim, just like in Gone Girl. Just like in Gone Girl. Like leaving these breadcrumbs. That's beautiful. What else happened? Jesse Solomon made me sad. Like he needs a girl.

I know. And he had one and he lost her. So why would anyone like give him the time of day? Yeah. I like I love, I simultaneously love him and can't stand him. You know what? I'm back to loving him. I will always be a Lexi Truther.

After the video of the girl falling. Like I love him too. He needs our support, you know. I will always be a Lexi Truther. And I would love to, we should have him on the, on namesake because we can. And I was our aunt. Yeah, because of our aunt. So we're no longer having guests on the toast.

Like if we're ever. having a conversation with someone, they will come on namesake. It will be like a separate. So namesake won't be released monthly or weekly. It will be released when it has to be. It will be released as needed. Yes, on an as needed basis. Some episodes could be as short as five minutes.

It's like, I have a couple questions for Jesse Solomon, you know? And one of them would be like, do regret, like, do you have any apologies for Lexi? Do you have any? I would just like like. I don't think that he does. I would like an awareness that he like ruined that girl's life. And then we can move forward. in harmony.

That's beautiful. So I just would like to know that. So let's get namesake up and running. Done. Oh, well, the place looks great. It genuinely always does. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast. And I'm running a morning show where you deliver the fast-fives on the internet and YouTube.

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