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great day thus far. I am so excited for today's episode. I'm so excited for today's episode for a number of reasons. It's Friday. So true. Mazel tov. Congrats grads. We did it and we're going into a long holiday weekend. Oh my god I didn't even think about that. So we have that holiday weekend energy and the joie de vivre. Yeah I feel like when we come back to the show on Tuesday, not Monday, don't get it twisted, we're gonna be like tan and full of life. What's also exciting is that we already recorded Monday's Patreon episode for you guys. We recorded it yesterday. It's all about Toast Inside Jokes, Deanie Lexicon, explaining everything that we say and why we say it. And that will drop on Monday. So if you're looking for an episode, there'll be one on patreon.com slash the toast.

Also, we can go into the weekend feeling good clear eyes full hearts can't lose so I feel like there's a lot of people listening to today's episode before we get to the meat of the thing that like everybody wants us to talk about let's just say hi welcome the toast is a daily podcast we stream live on youtube and anywhere you can get your podcast monday through friday we usually drop the episodes at about noon um jackie and I are sisters we love each other very much some core values here at the The Toast are just like joy, humor, family, love, etc. And of course, pop culture. We do five pop culture stories every day.

The first half of the show is usually just girly girls chit-chatting, you know? And then the second half... Girly swirly chit-chat. Girly swirly chit-chat. And then the second half of the show is pop culture. We also have a Patreon where for $7.99 every month, you can get five extra episodes, vlogs, podcast episodes from your girls. Kind of an amazing price. And we're also doing live shows this summer at the Beacon Theater

in New York City in the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center. There aren't a lot of tickets left. So we will be serving Spritz Society. It's going to be an amazing, amazing night. I cannot wait. And that's the Toast Podcast.com slash tour. Let me just get that in. The Toast Podcast.com slash tour. Even though there's like no tickets left, I don't even know why I'm like shilling it. Yes. Speaking of Spritz Society and the Hamptons. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good segue. Summerhouse was on last night, my new fave show. I also, perfect timing, like Hashem was looking out for your girl. I yesterday was like, I need to get in on Summerhouse because the finale's airing next week, then the reunion, there's all this drama. And I happened, I knew that last night on Watched Happens Live there was going to be something involving us. And I was like, I need to do my homework. I need to come prepared.

So I watched about five or six episodes of Summer House last night and this morning. And I also watched Watch What Happens Live, which is what we are really here to talk about. Yes. So this last night's episode of Watch What Happens Live with Kyle was recorded a few days ago. Yes. I have a mole. Some mole. Shout out mole.

They were like. Let us know that there was a conversation about Spritz and Loverboy and Ben and Kyle and Craig. And so that's why we watch. I don't normally watch. Watch Rebels Live with like two losers. But I did. And I will say.

I wasn't like bothered. So many people were DMing me like, oh my God, you have to hear what Kyle said on Watch What Happens Live. And his general gist was like, you know, you could tell he's very protective of his brand. And I totally get that. And he was like mad and all butthurt. And it felt like he was like a little threatened that Kyle joined our company. I mean, Kyle, Craig joined our company. He invested. He's a new ambassador. We're going to be doing a lot of fun like things events flavors trips to the cape um and so I didn't really feel like he said anything that crazy on the episode like he was just being like douchey on the main show and he

honestly was getting like sad he seemed a little sad when he climbs into bed he starts feeling sad that Craig invested in our society yeah and I wasn't gonna like do an episode on it like whatever but then this morning, so many people were sending me, like he really went in on the after show and what he did was lie. And he didn't even lie about me. He lied about two people I love very much. Obviously my husband who I'll seriously like ride for till the end. And who's such a good, honest, loving person and not duplicitous. Like he loves to, he loves Spritz Society. It's his livelihood, but like, it's not his entire world. You know, he's not going to be out here like scheming at

night, stealing ideas. Okay. And then he also lied about my good friend, our good friend, Craig Conover, calling him a liar. And I just felt like there were a few things I wanted to add color to and clear up and clear up. So you can all make your decisions, whether you're team, whatever, there are no teams, there's room for all of us. But it's important that you have all the facts. And, you know, he went on Watch What Happens Live and, like, slung some pretty serious accusations. And I just want to give, because I have all the facts. I have all the dates. I have all the timestamps.

And I have the receipts. So let me just clear up a few things. And actually, I'm going to be looking to my left because I wrote them down. Because he said a couple of things. I just want to directly respond to all of them. Make sure you get a hit every point. And I think that a really huge piece of the context that a lot of people might not have about Loverboy and the show is, and they've said this on the show, but you might not have put it together, is that Loverboy is Kyle's company,

and he doesn't take on investors. Like, you know, anytime you have a startup, we have a ton of investors from all different parts of the country. Some of them you guys know, the Skinny Confidential, Shannon Ford, that's more of an influencer partnership where people invest and they get equity, but we also use their name and likeness. That's what we're doing with Craig. Cause we really believe like in compensating talent, you know, you're coming to us, you're giving us your Instagram, like that's value. We know that that's valuable. And we believe, you know, in compensating people fairly and at Loverboy, you know, it's just Kyle. He doesn't take on investors and he certainly doesn't give any equity to his castmates or fellow influencers, fellow Bravo stars who are doing a lot of work and selling a lot of product for them. We're holding Loverboy in every episode, talking about

Loverboy in every episode, talking about the new flavor. Oh, this pair tastes good. And these aren't nobodies. These are people with hundreds of thousands of followers, with fans of their own, with successful podcasts, Giggly Squad. Like these aren't nobodies. Who other brands would pay thousands for that and do do that. So I can see why that might be frustrating for Kyle. Like he's really gotten away with sort of robbing his castmates. And it's, you know, famously become an issue, Hannah Burner. You know, they talked a lot about their reunion when Hannah Burner's out here like shilling

products for him, getting nothing in return. And then she gets eviscerated for taking a brand deal with Truly, which is a canned malt beverage. And like Kyle made it his mission to destroy Hannah and get her kicked off the show because she literally is trying to make a living. Like it's insane. So that's just a little bit of context. He, and that makes him very stressed. I think like he said on the show, how, you know, he has funded the company, not with investors. We have funded the company with tons of investors. Like that's

how, you know, we make payroll and that's how we can afford marketing and things like that. He doesn't do that. And he's taken out personal loans, which is obviously a very brave thing to do. So I see why he's like really protective over it. Like I totally get it. If I was $4 million in personal loans, like I would be freaking too. Like I'd be doing everything I could to make this company successful. And even if that meant, you know. Saying your wife can't go do her own little pet project because you need her.

That's why he's so stressed, by the way. On the show, we see that. And then also that's why he was kind of feeling like backed into a corner with the Craig thing and started just slinging these accusations that aren't true. That aren't true. So Ben and Craig are two people I know very well and really love and respect. And they're like grown men who aren't going to get on their podcasts and defending themselves. But I am because I'm not a grown woman. I'm a child and I have the facts you're not a grown man no I'm not

a grown man and neither is Kyle so like we're just gonna be duking it out that's fine like here's just the facts okay it's just important the first thing is how Craig got involved in the company it wasn't this like big master scheme it was actually such a pure story and of course it involves Taylor Swift like I've known Craig and Paige forever but Ben Ben recently, well, when was ERA's New York? Maybe a year and a half ago. No, actually exactly a year ago. Last summer. So I went to ERA's tour like three times.

The second night I went with a brand. And when we went with a brand, they had like this party bus. Craig and Paige were there too. They invited a bunch of influencers. There was this party bus. And of course, you know, Ben's like, yeah, can we get Spritz on the bus? And the girls who worked for the brand were like, toaster is so cute. Spritz on the bus, Spritz in the suite spritz everywhere and Craig was like pounding them he was

like these are so good and he didn't know it was our company he was just like oh my god I love these and then we were all hanging out we ended up driving them home Craig was like asking me so many questions about Taylor Swift and that's where him and Ben really became friends of course golf was a huge part of it when he found out we were the owners of spritz he like wanted to get involved Ben loves doing partnerships like this like involving people who want to invest but also have an audience and have an Instagram following. That's a match made in heaven. So Craig, we've been working with Craig for a while. We only recently announced that he was going to be joining us and we have a lot of fun things coming up with Craig. But that's how it started. No one was thinking

about Kyle. Nobody thinks about Kyle and Loverboy like two things can exist like and two people can be successful and there's a million canned cocktail companies besides us and they're all bigger than us and it's like it's not a big deal so just it was never about that but I think Craig was aware that he wanted to tell Kyle in his own way and another piece of context that is important like so important and factual is that Craig took Kyle out to dinner before the announcement. Not the day before. Like a week before it was going to be announced and said, maybe actually more than a week. And he said, I want to let you know I'm doing this partnership with Ben and the Toast Girls.

But if you will let me invest in Loverboy, I won't do it. Like I would rethink if you have an offer for me. Craig's really smart about his money. I feel like that's kind of been like the Craig, you know, a redemption story on Southern Charm. People like thought he was a joke with the sewing. Literally his company is huge sewing down South. They thought he was a joke with the lawyer. He passed the bar. People don't take him seriously. And I think he's having this sort of redemption era. He's really smart. And he wanted to invest in it in a ready toink cocktail. And he said, listen, I really love Spritz, but of course, like, I will invest in you if you don't want me to do Spritz.

And of course, like I said earlier, that's not something Loverboy does. They don't want to give other people equity. Kyle wants to remain in control of the company. That's why he took out the personal loans. And he said no. So Kyle knew he had first right of refusal. And I feel like Craig really,

that's like what a good, honest person does. And so to be called a liar on the show and then like completely not include that very vital conversation was dishonest of Kyle. I don't like that. I don't like you calling my friend a liar. Craig is a really good person.

Like he's an honest, he loves Paige. He's a hardworking guy. Like stop. Also at this point we have about like a decade of footage on Craig and lie he does not no he's a good he's the way that Kyle said like Craig's a liar like everyone knows like no he's not and no we don't no we don't know that like he's a good and I think that's really why him and

Ben um like sparked when they met like they're really similar like hard work like their values are aligned like hard working I mean Craig would die for Paige Ben would die for me Like they're really similar, like hard work, like their values are aligned, like hard working. I mean, Craig would die for Paige. Ben would die for me. Like they're just like honest, good, faithful people who just like want to have fun. Like it's not that serious. So it really had nothing to do with lover boy, but now it does because like he's making up lies. Now another lie that was told that I must defend my husband. Cause to know Ben is to know he's literally incapable of deception. He is a golden retriever, sweetheart. And Kyle said on the after show that the founder of Spritz Society, that's BSC, Ben Soffer, my husband, took him out to dinner the night before the Craig announcement was made.

Now, this is why I love patreon.com slash a toast. Ben did go to dinner with Kyle Cook. I happened to be vlogging that evening because I knew I was, Ben's going to be out of town, not out of town, out of the house. And my book club was coming over. I have a book club, we meet monthly. And I vlogged, you know, the balabusta, getting my apartment ready, home decor, very, you know, homemaker energy. And I was saying, I'm like, oh my God, Ben's going to dinner with Kyle Cook. Ben and Kyle Cook have never met up up until recently they both were speaking at this beverage conference and somebody introduced them they might have like a partner in common who they work with I don't remember who introduced

them but they met and they were like going to dinner I was like oh my god this is like so mature you know I love that and Ben was like it's literally not a big deal I'm like okay Ben was just like so chill it's all in the vlog and I'm like what are you guys gonna do you know trade secrets like it was so sweet and innocent and Kyle went on and said that Ben used that dinner the night before the announcement with Craig. Now, if you look at the dates of the Patreon and when we announced Craig, they're weeks apart. And he used that dinner to milk information from Kyle. Couldn't be further from the truth. Kyle sat at that dinner and was like, I feel like your wife, Claudia, doesn't like me. Well, I don't know I don't know you don't and I'm not gonna

lie I stand firmly with Hannah Burner so yeah I didn't really love you before that but I didn't know you personally so I really I the jury was out on how I felt but all I knew was I didn't like what you did to my friend Hannah Burner and I don't love how you act on the show you know so that's all I know but I reserve judgment I like to meet people in person still have never met Kyle Cook one time he was on the morning breath I wasn't there um I've have never met Kyle Cook. One time he was on The Morning Breath. I wasn't there. He was. I've literally never met him. Yeah. So now obviously I have you know a couple of issues with how you talked about people I love but you know it's never too late to apologize like seriously because facts are important and I'm I have a few more facts that I want to give. Now let me just did I get that yeah Craig isn't a liar. I'm gonna defend my friend. He's a good honest person so

don't say that like that bothers me. Ben didn't milk you for information. You had, like, a nice, it was, like, kind of so mature of them when Ben got back from dinner. He was like, it was just nice to talk to somebody, like, who's in this. Doing something similar, like, taking on the big companies. Yeah. Renegade. Like, they have. Like, very influencer focused.

That's, like, Ben's passion. Yeah. They have, like, more in common. Yeah. Than most people. And it doesn't have to be competitive. And did Ben tell Kyle Cook about the Craig Conover work deal at dinner no one the deal wasn't final two they had just met you don't

like share company things with like well I don't know in what world Ben would have owed Kyle Cook anything like he he didn't tell him and that's literally not weird yeah so that's another fact and then on the after show the general insinuation was that like our business is a failure. We're copying Loverboy and, you know, we're losers. Spritz is doing very well. We just launched in Target, which is super, super exciting. We have a lot of fun things coming up in the pipeline. You know, it's a slow, it's a small business. We're not huge, but, you know, we do our best and we have a lot of fun, exciting, you know, things and a lot of things we've accomplished that we're really proud of. And we're, we're going to keep going and we love it and we do very well. So eat my ass.

Yeah. They made it sound just like very conspiratorial. Like this cheater brand is, is failing. And so they're grasping at to do something just like Kyle. And it's like, it's so not like that. This is one of many collaborations that we've done that we do and that we're going to continue to do. And Craig is like a natural extension of the brand and literally nobody was thinking about Kyle and Loverboy and like I guess that's hard when no one's thinking about you and we're literally not competitors like we I feel are very clear about what we do we are a canned cocktail company all of our beverages are um sparkling wine based like that's what we do it's a very specific sort of drink. And, you know,

Kyle said last night, like, we're not even a spritz company. You're not. He couldn't really define what kind of company they are because I know they sell espresso martinis in a can, limoncello in a can, teas in a can, spritzes in a can, non-alcoholic beverages. They would put their urine in a can and sell it if they could. Like they sell everything. And that's so, and by the way, they do really well. Like I'm not, I really don't like to clown on other people's businesses that urine thing was mean I take that back but you know what I mean they sell a lot of different beverages and that's great we're different there are a million companies and really none of them have anything to do with the other lover boy has nothing to do with spritz and spritz certainly has nothing to do with lover boy

um so we're not the same like let's we're not we're actually not Andy said direct competitors we're actually not yeah um and then the last point I wanted to say that I think is most important. Actually, two things. One, Kyle accused us of copying him, which just isn't true. I would say this on Under Oath. I would say this on Lie Detector. I swear on my family. I've actually never in my life tried to love a boy. try to love her boy. And I don't know if Kyle Cook can say the same about Spritz because he literally placed an order from our website and I have a receipt and I have his address and I have his email. So let's not, you know, let's not lie because paper trails are of the utmost importance. That's that. And then the second to last thing I wanted to, no, the last thing I wanted to say is you can use code Craig20 at SpritzSociety.com for 20% off site-wide. That's C-R-A-I-G-2-0 at SpritzSociety.com. we have a ton of flavors i was actually drinking a passion fruit one this morning our newest flavor but i happen to really love peach it depends you

know flavors are so specific and so personal so there's a flavor for everyone we've got lemon we've got grapefruit we've got blood orange we've got passion fruit we did a limited time collab with cloths and pickles um and you can actually get that collab in some stores so just head to spritzsociety.com lemonade that's our skinny confidential get that collab in some stores. So just head to SpritzSociety.com. Pink Lemonade. That's probably the fan favorite. That's in Target. Yes. So you can head to SpritzSociety.com for a store locator and see where we're sold near you. And if we're not in a store near you yet, you can order online. So it's fabulous. It's fabulous. Thank you, Kyle Cook, for giving us an excuse to shill our product. Talk about Spritz. It's been a while.

It's been a while. So that's code Craig20 at SpritzSociety.com. And I think I got through all my notes. At the end of the day, you know, there's space for all of us. There's no need

to be slinging insults. Kyle and Craig are like low-key not even that close, but like that's also not important. But, Right. I just,

I didn't like that. You know, you can say what you want about me. People, I'm like accustomed to it. People say stuff about me, but don't say stuff about Ben.

Like seriously, I'll kill you. Yeah, that's just so off the mark. Yeah, about me people I'm like accustomed to it people say stuff about me but don't say stuff about Ben like seriously I'll kill you yeah that's just so off the mark yeah no like I feel like making Ben the villain in your story you're never going to be believed like Ben is not the villain in anyone's story no unless he's just like muting the microphone and not turning it back up but that was it's not malicious intent and it's of the utmost importance that we say here like no one's allowed to clown on Ben Soffer except for us. No one's allowed to lie on his name except for us. It's a role I take extremely seriously. Yeah. And don't step on my turf. Okay. Okay. I'm so glad we got that out of the way. Like living for the drama. Like, thank you, Kyle, like for like bringing us into this.

Now it's like, but it's such a great moment for our business and I know that was like the opposite of his goal but like you lie that's what happens that's what happens anyways spritzsociety.com and now's a good time as I need to do summer house recap because now you're caught up and I want to hear your thoughts on the season because I don't have too many thoughts about last night's episode it did kind of feel like circling the drain of. Wait, hold on. Someone, one of the Spritz founders texted me. They wanted me to add like a little bit more clarification.

Because like, you understand, like these are business people. They don't get involved in like TV drama. And now they're excited. Right. Two points of clarification here. We didn't take him out to dinner. He paid for himself. That is important.

Two, he approached us to go to dinner. Also important. Interesting. Okay. approached us to go to dinner also important interesting okay where'd they go to dinner and maybe add in that at dinner we were so kind to offer like that we should do stuff together they were talking about partnerships like throwing parties together introducing lover boy to the toast community like they wanted ben is like so mature like that like yeah rising tides raise all shides. Yeah. Well, not today. Where did they go to dinner? You want me to ask?

Yeah. I feel like it's germane and I'm hungry. Where did you guys eat? Just curious. Okay. I asked. Okay. Yes.

I'm all caught up on Summer House. And by the way, if you're listening and you hear like a little bit of a buzzing, the air conditioning in my studio is out. And seriously, the fact that I showed up here today is I'm so committed to on Summer House. And by the way, if you're listening and you hear like a little bit of a buzzing, the air conditioning in my studio is out. And seriously, the fact that I showed up here today is I'm so committed to this line of work. And you're going to have to deal with this little fan because it's the only thing keeping me from fainting. But aren't you moving studios soon?

I'm really working on it. It's just like a thing I put on the back burner ever since Kyle Cook came for me. Like I haven't been able to think of anything else. Ever since last night. She can't do it. I haven't been able to think of anything else. Do you think you'll move before the summer or after? No, after.

Which is like still. But they did say the air conditioning is supposed to be fixed today but they haven't been saying that for like two weeks. For two years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So just like send prayers and if I look a little flush like it's just the heat. Okay. So we're not worried about you. Yeah, and I know everyone's always worried about me. Like, oh my God,

she's too skinny. Like things like that. Yeah, things of that nature. Things in which like that. Things of that elk. Oh, summer house recap. Yeah, so I know everyone's always worried about me. Like, oh my God, she's too skinny. Like, things like that. Yeah, things of that nature. Things in which like that. Things of that elk. Oh, Summer House recap. Yeah, so I'm all caught up. I have so many thoughts.

First of all. What are your thoughts on the season at large? So good. Like, it's so crazy how Paige DeSorbo is like so uninvolved in any of the drama or storyline. And she's my most favorite character. Like, I can't wait. I can't get enough screen time of her. Like, I love her so much.

She's so gorgeous. Like, it's literally sick. And to be so gorgeous and have such a personality like it's like God does have why God has favorites like for real it's and so stylish so beautiful so perfect so nice like you could say a bad word about her if you tried yeah I wonder where it comes from like I wonder what her like if in childhood yeah was she ugly duckling I don't know but she's not it's such a fire point yeah um so many thoughts okay I'm just gonna go through each cast member I love Jesse Solomon so much I would lay my life out on

the line for him him and Wes are really amazing additions it's high time like the men on the show started doing something yeah agreed oh my god they hate to have it for Carl like I can't like you know what it is and I've I this is this is exactly why him and Lindsay you could take Lindsay so you could argue both sides whatever like I'm not going to take sides by the way she was a child model she wasn't an ugly duckling oh that's so funny I think she modeled for limited too they went to oceans on 19th and park Kyle and Ben okay cool yeah I love that restaurant actually it's so good um oh what was I saying oh Carl here's what it is about Carl and Lindsay and why I lean more team Lindsay, but it's definitely personality based.

Lindsay, I feel I have a very similar energy to. We're very like sort of tough love. I hate the word aggressive for a woman, but like straight to the point. Yeah. And her saying like someone crushing it in life is a turn on for me. Like I get that. Carl is extremely beta. Like I get that. Carl is extremely beta. Like I need sensitivities.

I need hugs. Like I'm sorry. Like no. Even when I'm like not doing well and being a loser. Like it's like the loser you are, like the more coddling and attention that you need. When it's like no, strength is rewarded. And Lindsay's over here like doing the most. Making double what Carl has made this year.

I can't believe he shared those numbers, what they make from brand deals. I thought that was so interesting. And that he was lame enough to say it's because he's not a woman. Like, sorry, look at Craig on a reality show, booming business. Look at Craig. It bothered me so much that like he's just so excused. And even that shit presentation Kyle gave him, like pennies on the dollar. Like he's so grateful for it.

Like he's really loser energy, I think, when it comes to his line of work. And I think Lindsay thinks the way that she's going to get him to do what he wants, what she wants, and to be the best version of himself is sort of tough love and just straight to the point. She's not even Claudia. She's not even being tough. No, she's just asking questions. And like not even asking interrogative questions to use his word.

She's just trying to understand the conversation. Can't understand what was said if I don't like ask you what was said. She's coming at him with like no anger, no malice, nothing. But like he can't even answer a question. Yeah, it's really frustrating. He just wants like blind support and she's not supposed to even have information, let alone opinions. No, and by the way, like they're getting married. She's been very clear about how much she wants to have children.

And you, this like lines of work and careers really, I don't think she's unreasonable in wanting that to be figured out as soon as possible. And like him still dilly dallying at the same company with the same guy. It's like a joke. It's a joke. And the fact that he had to leave the company because it was like a toxic yeah workplace for him he needed eight months to decompress from that job while he figured out his next step and then his next step is to go back she's right to say that it's like an ex and she also clarified on watch what happens live because andy was like you don't really want to be a stay

at home mom do you and she was like no at that time we're getting married soon i want to have kids immediately which means like in a year i could be on maternity leave, which I deserve like to have some time off once I've had a child and that's in the immediate future. And what will Carl be doing for work? Can I even go on maternity leave next year? No. If he doesn't have a job. No, it's so fair. Especially when her, when she, at this point is an influencer entrepreneur works for herself. So like, if you're not working, you don't get paid. It's not like a job where you go on maternity leave and it's paid. And you get paid three months.

Like if you stop working for three months, you have no income. And if your husband's not working, you have zero income and you have a new baby. Unacceptable. Agreed. I think she's totally justified. I just think their methods of communication and deep down,

like their personalities are not right. And I don't know why I didn't see that earlier because last season I thought they were really good together um but that was because he was like standing up for himself against Kyle and like really wanting to move forward and now he's just like moving backwards and he was like cleaving on to Lindsay like which a good husband and also like maybe a little bit of a lost man should do is like lean on your wife she is strong and she will help you but do not like but now he's not doing that he's like finding her so adversarial and yes they're obviously not the right match for each other but Kyle wouldn't be a bet I'm sorry Carl wouldn't be their names are just too similar

Carl Craig and Kyle I don't know how we're supposed to get through this episode they're not the right match for each other but Carl is not at a point in his life to find a match because he is not whole yeah no it's true and nothing to do with like his addiction or anything like that it's like as a man and like the things that like you need to do to like work hard and provide like he and he makes excuses so like there's no partner that would be better for him I mean maybe like he could do the circuit of like a really young girl who like doesn't see the faults in him and then she like grows up and matures is like what are you doing I think people forget Lindsay's age and I also think Lindsay gets a bad rap in relationships but what I've realized and I'm

like loving Lindsay what I've realized is that she has horrible taste in men and she's she has high expectations for a partner so those two things like really don't mesh well because I don't want to use the word high maintenance but I think she just has like high standards for what her partner should be doing for her in the relationship for them in their future family in a career and she also picks bad men okay I don't think her standards have been high this season she's literally he's been out of work for a year now she's put up with that she's some people dating like a reality star who films a show like would be enough but she wants more than that she wants stability yeah because what's not being said is that they get paid to be on the show and to be

for sure but the show is two months out of the year if they were think about think about what other castmates do like think about page page fashion contributor podcaster influencer amazon live host reality star like everybody does a million things because they film like eight weeks yeah Lindsay and and I thought it was so dismissive and I get what he was saying he was like you don't have to keep bringing up your you know old PR job but having built a successful company like you're not a moron no and you are poised to offer advice yeah and he was just like clearly threatened by that I just I don't like them as a couple and I if I'm going to take a side it's certainly going to be Lindsay's because I don't think she's being unreasonable I think her delivery is just like not picture perfect I need a hug sensitive delivery is picture perfect what more she's being so measured

she actually is what else could she how would it be better objectively what could she do better and then he goes and like sits with Kyle who like gasses him up he obviously doesn't like them as a couple and he doesn't like lindsey and so he just thinks he's so right and he thinks he's so he has like this moral superiority it bothers me so much no when the boys get together and like offer advice on the other's relationship the blind leading the blind i mean the blind told called his wife a fucking bitch why are we listening to him right and the other ones like jesse i mean at least jesse Jesse Solomon knows enough to say like don't let me into this I'm pitching tomorrow like I have no experience okay wait other other people I love the idea of Amanda creating a swimwear line for big breasted women I think first of all I'd be their number one customer and second of all she

does have this like really unique design POV she's super talented I encourage her to do it I love that Wes and Sierra like everyone is obsessed with Wes and like I get it I get it but like this whole I don't know if I'm ready to be in a relationship like grow up I really have no time for that and like no the chickens are coming home to us it's been probably like six weeks of them having a good time so like this would be the time in any relationship for like to shit or get off the pod in one way like starting with exclusivity even so I feel like he's a great personality for like the first six weeks.

Everything's really fun. But I like that she's like laying down the law. And like being serious. And not going to like keep living this way. You can't. And beyond if you want something serious. Danielle has been very quiet this season. Except for the breakdown in the shower.

I'm sorry. Gabby has been really quiet this season. Except for the breakdown in the shower. I happen to really like her. And I think she doesn't get like enough screen time. and it's because she's like not like pursuing a relationship um and that sucks like that sucks I think like we're not getting to know her enough and if she does like not get asked back it's because they didn't give her enough screen time because I think there's a lot more there yeah I agree and all we do is get screen time for Danielle and I can't her and Carl are like tied for my least favorite characters probably when they had that conversation like there was a night I think it was a night like

Kyle was spiraling the three of them in the car the three musketeers talking about their like unsupportive partners and they don't know what it's like to run a business I'm like yeah yeah this is embarrassing I'm embarrassed no and I do remember saying this last season um when Danielle would file follow Kyle out of the house every time he stormed out first of all like so not girls girl energy and second of all like she's literally in love with Kyle and she always has been and Carl and her following him out to the car and like giving him a hug and he's like I just want to be alone like I I can't like that was really painful to watch I thought that um scene where she's like berating Gabby chill yeah and founder and CEO that's all I have to say and where's her app they had the launch party on last night's

episode yeah is it not out looks like a good idea is it not out like I don't know I didn't I didn't look but I haven't like I haven't heard more but I like the idea for the app by the way just want to say by the way it's out it has 3.5 stars 10 ratings an absolute lifesaver someone says someone says it's okay that's not nice I'm not gonna say that um yeah you can't go by ratings no I've never left a rating for my favorite app in my life it appears to be like legit it's cute it's definitely a good idea if they're using AI. You know who she needs. You know who she needs. Paige. Paige.

Yeah. I have to say, I had enormous respect for Paige not going to Lindsay's bridal shower. Yeah. Like, it was weird. You're invited to someone's

bridal shower, but not their wedding, and they're just getting back on good footing, so it was nice of Lindsay to extend the olive branch. I don't think it was rude of Paige not to go.

I understood her reasoning completely. Yeah. I would like for them to be tighter. By the way, same. But it's happening naturally. I just have to be patient. And I don't know if anybody's gonna understand this call,

but like, is it Wes or West? Great question. West, but maybe his nickname is Wes. West is fibula coded. I'll just leave it at that. Okay. And Jesse Solomon is an amazing man the song like I was really liking him all season everybody likes him and then he was so like vulnerable and emotional

last episode like it was really nice and then the song just put me over the edge like no 1000% and I and this is the line about him being a big Jew like I just am obsessed and I think it's so rare that a like a man shines through without being in a relationship like yeah I remember there was a season where all we talked about was Austin but it was like this dumb like love triangle to stand out on your own because you're sensitive because you're vulnerable because you're funny like is so hard for a man and the respect like if they don't bring him back seriously end the show no I think they will bring him back I don't know why they wouldn't I I want him to meet a nice I want him to meet a nice girl a nice Jewish girl a nice Jewish girl yeah and the seriously end the show. No, I think they will bring him back. I don't know why they wouldn't. Unless he doesn't want to come back.

I want him to meet a nice girl. A nice Jewish girl. A nice Jewish girl, yeah. And the fact that they put the whole song in the episode, where I feel like people do silly antics all the time. Like, one, I was so grateful for it. It was such a nice moment, like, among the whole house. And I feel like even the cameraman,

like, everyone was just, like, having a good time. Yeah. Loved it. He's really, really cute. And do you see anything between him and Amanda? Oh, well, people on TikTok, like, put that in my time. Yeah. Loved it. He's really, really cute. And do you see anything between him and Amanda? Oh, well, people on TikTok, like, put that in my head. Yeah. And now I'm watching it.

Like, when she went over and gave him, like, the biggest hug. The post-recovery hug. She was a giddy. That was the only hug where she, like, hugged him, like, twice from two different angles. Like, arms under. Yeah. I ship. I didn't see anything before that, though.

But do you ship? Yeah. Yeah. So next week's the finale. Carl calls it off. And we got all the looks from the reunion. And oh my God, Lindsay, like, you know, she just wanted to eat that up. And she did.

And then she's seeing someone new. Like, I'm happy for her. I really, I genuinely, like, want good things for her. Yeah. She deserves them. Yeah. Okay. So a little out of order today.

But now, without further ado, let's get into the Fast Five stories that you need to know. Let's. And just a reminder, today's episode is brought to you by ByHeart. Yes, it is. Which is super awesome. Super. Our first story, a little more alleged shade. So fans are convinced that Billie Eilish shaded Taylor Swift and Beyonce's psychotic three-hour concerts.

By the way, I hate when, like, this is now the second time Billie Eilish has said something clearly about Taylor Swift. Like, you don't need to put alleged in there. Like, it's obviously about her. Right. Billie Eilish has said something clearly about Taylor Swift like you don't need to put alleged in there like it's obviously about her right Swifties are convinced that Billie Eilish shaded Taylor and Beyonce and their respective eras and renaissance tours by taking aim at marathon length concerts she told her fans that doing a three-hour show is literally psychotic in a station head clip that went viral on Thursday she said nobody wants that you guys don't want that I don't want that I don't even want that as a fan even my favorite artists I'm not trying to hear them for three hours that's far too long now this is just a bad

take you know I don't think anybody would be mad at an artist for doing more for us uh someone who paid for a ticket like it's very generous of spirit at this point hundreds of thousands of people have gone to era's tour like it's working. I've not heard one person have that take, that it was too long. Agreed. Same with Renaissance tour. Like, if anything, people were just wanting more. This is like, okay, with the plastic waste take,

it was clear, like, that was about Taylor. And sure, like, an argument could be made about the environment, even though I don't think, like, on the list of things wrong with the environment, Taylor Swift's vinyls are the issue. This is just like a bad take, an incorrect take. And it's giving jealous. It's giving you couldn't perform for three hours, so you don't. Don't clown on other people for it. Just like Beyonce and Taylor out here, like giving people

a night, giving people a reason to get dressed up, like literally changing the culture, making an impact on the economy. Like how you could say, like seriously scrounge up anything to say that's negative about the era store and the renaissance store, it's getting jealous. Yeah. I also feel like maybe I'm just misremembering, but after she said the thing about the vinyls, then Taylor and Billie were together again.

No. No, there wasn't a hug? No, and this week in particular, Billie dropped new music. And I think in an attempt for Taylor to A, make a statement, and B, block her from going, number one. Taylor has now released four different new versions of um what's the album called ttpd with like different live versions because she's been playing ttpd songs live on the era store and she's been like recording them live and putting them so like to flood the

billboard charts and block Billie from going number one and then also I guess be wasteful oh so there's there's beef between them because I thought after the last time like Taylor did something that made me feel like she didn't care what Billie had said like wasn't angry about it no but I feel like after this it's clear so the girls are fighting like I took Taylor's side in the first argument because I'm always going to take Taylor's side I'm not a Billie Eilish, like, girl. But, like, if you wanted to go back and forth, like, I could see someone arguing what Billie was saying in that argument. I just ride for Taylor, and I'm always going to blindly support her. And the vinyls didn't bother you.

They didn't bother me. In this particular case, like, this is such a bad take, and she really shouldn't have said it, because it makes her look jealous. It makes her look incapable of performing at that level. And it just highlights that like you don't perform like Beyonce and Taylor. So if I have X amount of money, I'll go see one of them over you. Yeah.

It's a bad take. No, and it's just cementing her status as a Fabissa Napunim. It's cementing her status as a Fabissa Napunim, always dragging on and on. And like a Fabissa Napunim at its core is going to find anything to be like, it's going to put a negative spin on anything. And how you could put a negative spin on Renaissance and Error's Tour. Error's Tour and Renaissance Tour. Which are, it's joy come to life.

It's bright colors. It's music. It's happiness. It's like seriously Disneyland. It's the happiest place on earth. How you could then, it's actually she out Fabicina'd the Fabicina. Like she really went there to go make it negative. Like, please stop.

No, it's seriously, it's like a parody at this point how she can make anything just Miz yeah I can't wait to see what she takes on next yeah Disney World maybe she's gonna out Miz the Miz Les Miz exactly well that's the latest drama are you ready for our next story am i yeah okay um a little more southern charm drama the southern charm stars are causing drama because southern charms katherine dennis is cuffed and crying during dui arrest the body cam footage from her dui has i watched it has emerged reality tv star katherine dennis had a total meltdown if she was after she was pulled over for drunk driving in south carolina and her dramatic tear-filled arrest was all caught on video. The former Southern Charm star was not so charming during her leading role

in this police dash cam footage obtained by TMZ. Cops raced to the scene Monday following her three-car collision in Goose Creek. We didn't know there was a collision. Yes, that's what they said. Last time? Yes. In the last article? Yes.

Oh, I didn't know there was a collision. You know, it was really bad. And it makes her behavior in that dash cam video even more abhorrent. Like knowing the damage she did. Just shut the fuck up and sit there. Jeez, that is so, so bad. I had two major thoughts after watching the dash cam footage. One is like, I seriously would never be a cop.

My God, people are just awful. Like she's being awful. Like just disgusting. The second is, Catherine Dennis is me if I ever got arrested because I guess she was arrested while in possession of her dog and I never thought about what would happen if you're arrested alone yeah with the dog like I guess if you're with a partner they would take the dog home but they take the dog to the shelter and I don't think that clicks for her until they're putting so she's actually like she's being a bitch but she's being calm the second she realizes that the dog's being taken to the shelter and I think they're putting him in like a crate in the back they must carry

crates with them oh my god she loses her goddamn mind like seriously it's like just now being put into perspective for her that she's being arrested and like she freaks give me the dog give me that like seriously so crazy and And honestly, me. I know, but like to drive and endanger your dog, like to drive drunk and endanger your dog. In addition to other civilians. Right, right, right. But like, this is so, so upsetting.

I mean, she's not on the show anymore. So like, I don't know what. Could be done. What's gonna, like, you know, what's next for her or whatever. But like, just as a fan of hers. Yikes. I'm disappointed. No, and dash cam footage never does anyone any, you know, good. I mean, obviously what comes to mind for me is Reese Witherspoon.

Oh, LuVan, of course. Reese Witherspoon's dash cam footage is seriously grossly under-discussed. A PR expert should study how she went from that video. Do you know who I am? I'm America's fucking sweetheart. Getting arrested for literally driving drunk. I saw recently, I didn't investigate,

but I saw a comment. She wasn't America's sweetheart in that moment. She is now. No, she was then. She's been America's sweetheart forever. Yeah. Legally blonde.

You saw a comment what? That it wasn't her driving drunk, it was her husband. And then I think she was um but she also was arrested because she was a drunk and then her behavior yeah well she can be drunk yeah in the passenger seat yeah we've all been there drive drunk and do that no no she was just being a man yeah I need to stop saying that you're right and hindering police activity yeah and like um what's the word?

She wasn't resisting arrest, but she was like hindering someone else's arrest. So she was hindering someone else's arrest. She was being a hindrance. She was being an obstruction to justice. Oh, that's what it is. Obstructing justice. Yeah. When you're getting in the way of justice.

Being served. Correct. So this is bad for Katherine Dennis, as stated earlier this week but now having the video footage just and it's long like she was like there was a lot of drama in the video like it was it went in stages and the dog thing was sort of like the climax of it yeah um she's just she's being so disrespectful and like like just I would seriously add it to the list of jobs I never want to be a cop yeah like dealing with the people at their worst I'm sure sometimes it's funny but no no no like so miserable yeah are you ready for our next story which is some relatable news am I yeah okay because Serena

Williams is being praised for showing her postpartum struggles after failing to fit back into a denim skirt. So she's not skirting around the hard conversations. Fans applauded Serena Williams for opening up about her postpartum body struggles while trying on a denim skirt that used to fit her before giving birth to her two children. She said, okay, everyone, I've been working my butt off. Let's see what happens with my jean skirt. Can I fit into it yet?

So in the video, she's seen wearing shapewear. She attempts to squeeze into the skirt. She said, I've been gymming a lot, but I don't know if the needle is moving. Let's see if Compton has a problem still. So she struggled to get the skirt over her hips. She said, I can't say I'm happy about this. So she's getting a lot of praise for, you know,

sharing this moment, which as someone who is also in this exact moment, like so much respect anytime we talk about Serena Williams my love for her grows like remember when she ate the dog food like seriously her social media she's not like crazy active but she's always making waves when she does post because she's so funny she also just launched a beauty company I saw it everywhere on TikTok people are obsessed with it it's like a few products I think it's called win yeah I think um I love her like she's so real for this and I thought the story was going to be that she's

getting backlash for like wanting to fit into something like can we just normalize like wanting to get back into like a groove yeah or get back to the person that you've been your entire life and the last like your body changes when you go through pregnancy that doesn't mean you have to stay at the size that you are postpartum and that's not also to say that being the size that you are postpartum that there's anything wrong with that like right like everyone's decision is good here's the thing there's nothing wrong with any of it yeah and it's all good and I do think that sometimes we feel shamed for like wanting to bounce back now like it used to be you were shamed if you didn't bounce back and you didn't want to bounce back now we're getting shamed for talking about bouncing back or like praising it or even saying like you know being excited acknowledging our successes

and it's like can we not shame blame anyone in any part of this like it's shame blame and the postpartum game and so not only do I not want your shame or blame I want to be able to talk about it right and I want to it's nice and comforting when you see someone else who's like it's it's a long journey it's not like you just either decide to stay as you are or bounce back like what about the in the middle like I'm halfway between what like where I landed postpartum and bouncing back and like this part is hard I've had to buy like all new clothes because neither side of the spectrum fits me some of my like pre-baby clothes fit but not in the way that I want them to like this sweater it's a pre-baby sweater you guys maybe remember it from like 2020 it's a little snug no and like I think seeing someone like Serena Williams who is an athlete who like fitness

is life gym like her whole life to say like I've been hitting the gym a lot and I don't feel like I'm moving the needle like that is such a relatable statement for anyone but for somebody whose life at one point was fitness like oh my god thank you yeah and it's very relatable to like not be at either end of the spectrum to be in the middle of it like working really hard seeing results but like not all the way like still that doesn't come through. But this conversation is actually great for today's sponsor, which is ByHeart. So ByHeart is an infant nutrition company built from the ground up to deliver real innovation on behalf of babies and parents. And their mission is simple, make the best formula in the world.

And what I love about it is their whole message is like never skim, right? Because they literally never skim. They use whole milk in their products. But they talk about how when it comes to motherhood postpartum taking care of your babies like how we we find us we never skim and you never really would and there's so many things that I realized that I never skim on now with my children that you know five years ago I didn't even think and I definitely skimmed on myself back then but now with the babies we never skim and I feel like you're making your own applesauce I'm making my own applesauce turtle loo I'm making my own bread

because it's better for my family's gut health and no added sugars in my bread like there is in store-bought bread and that's similar to how by heart is good for baby's digestion because my sourdough one day I did feed it this morning one day my sourdough is going to be good for their gut health just like by heart is so it's so funny how you really find yourself never skimming also like I only now use non-toxic cookware when cooking for my kids pots pans steaming baskets wooden cleaning supplies boards cleaning supplies all of my cookware is non-toxic since becoming a mom and that also lines up with by heart standards and they're certified clean ingredients yeah never skimming and certified clean ingredients equals motherhood if I might praise you for a moment I also feel like you do a really good job obviously like your kids never

skim best of the best everything you know but also like I feel like you really also make it a priority to like never skim on yourself too like the things you care about like watching tv you're getting your shows in reading like your like your passions, cooking, being beautiful, like stylish. Like the things you cared about before, like you still prioritize yourself too. And I think that's also really important to be like the best mom is like to also take care of yourself. Yeah, never skimming on the things that are important to you because you want to be the best version of yourself so that you can continue to never skim for them. Right. No, I think like you do a really good job of that, for real.

Thank you so much. Yeah, never skimming on my reading. I did a little bit of reading last night. Put me right to sleep. Slept like a baby. Or a ring can testify to that. And we're just not skimming. And if you're curious about Buy Heart,

you can redeem your welcome offer at buyheart.com slash podcast with code TOAST20 for a limited time. Additional terms and conditions apply. Also something that I never skim on was something that I learned like about a year ago, hanging out with Bobby from slave city, which is the importance of using grass fed dairy products and grass fed milk and cheeses. And also by hearts, whole milk is organic grass fed, not other products. So that's like a major thing I align on with them as well. And I feel like we have a lot of girlies who listen to the show who are either pregnant, in the newborn phase, postpartum. And when it comes to self-care and never skimming on yourself, I think that takes a backseat for a lot of people.

And it takes them a while to be like, no wait, I am also still a person in addition to being like a milk factory and and a mom and you know a janitor and everything um and what is like a piece of advice you would give because I feel like you did a really good job like balancing both for someone who like doesn't want to feel selfish while like you know and how do you how do you effectively do both like never skimming on yourself but also your children I would say that I know I don't have time for everything that I used to like to do um most time for everything that I used to like to do um most of the things that I used to like to do or that would fill my free time but like identifying what are the most important things to you personally and they're going to be different for everyone I would say for me like it is doing my makeup doing my even if or it's just or on a

day like when I'm really in like the postpartum thick of it like just skincare like just putting something on my face maybe like putting my hair up in a bun with some product and like feeling a little bit more like myself. Also, when you're in that like immediate postpartum phase, like not skimming on the loungewear that you want to buy and like the comfy clothes that you're going to be in. Oh, that's a good one. You don't need like a million things, but like a few cozy products. Like I love cozy pajamas.

I don't skim on my pajamas for me. No, that's really a good way of looking at it. So identifying like three things that you know are important to you to feeling good. Maybe for some people it is working out. That's not one of mine at that time. But like going for like making sure you get a daily walk and like whatever it is for you,

like don't skim on yourself and identify the things that are going to make you feel like yourself and I would say also probably communicating those to your partner is enormously helpful so you can be like listen let's say working out is one of those things which that's crazy but no judgment everyone's journey is their own um being like listen I'm gonna need you for 30 minutes to watch the kid make sure you know and don't skim I'm going for a walk or I'm or of course you could bring your baby on a walk I'm going for a run and that's important to me and maybe there's

something important to you and I will support you in that yeah there's so many different things I feel like for some people it's like date night or being able to go out to a restaurant have a meal that you didn't cook for yourself or having a meal that you sometimes it's like actually I want an hour to cook a nice dinner that's healing for some people so identify the things that make you feel like you don't skim on that ever so again if you're curious about by heart redeem your welcome offer at byheart.com slash podcast with code toast 20 for a limited time additional terms and conditions apply that is code toast 20. Thank you Jackie thank you Serena Williams for sparking that really interesting conversation I love having interesting conversations especially about like postpartum stigmas I know I know not the stigmas the stigmas and like what's crazy is like the stigmas have stigmas yeah you know

because that's exactly what you were saying about Serena Williams like the bounce back culture how yeah it was really toxic and now I feel like we flipped the other way. And now it's like, what about both? Yeah. And what about like the middle time, the middle period where like the journey, it's about the climb. I just fucking love Serena Williams. Like that's kind of my thesis of the episode. That's your takeaway? Yeah.

Did you see that she tweeted something like a, what was it? Like a tennis racket or something? Like it was giving, I'm coming out of retirement. Oh, please no. I think that's like the worst move for a famous athlete like going out as the goat and I don't think Serena Williams has to worry about anytime soon anybody even coming close to beating any of her records like she is so far superior same with Tom Brady like oh that's just like a theory actually Tom Brady had Patrick Mahomes on his ass. I actually think Patrick Mahomes played a part in Tom Brady's thinking.

Let me get one more ring to get even further from Patrick Mahomes. I know there's a lot of big, like Coco Gauff, she's so far from what Serena Williams' records are. There are men who are goats who are far away from Serena Williams. Please, like, please don't. I don't think it's only about protecting your records. I imagine if she's in this period in her life where she's bouncing back, like I'm sure one of the activities she likes to do is play tennis, right?

Okay. Also, maybe she was just playing tennis and like tweeted like, hey, I'm playing tennis. Oh yeah. Could be that. Could be nothing more than that. But say she's like using tennis as a physical activity to get back in shape. It might be her mind and she's crushing it. She might be like, what if I just went pro again.

Yeah seems like I actually didn't need to retire. I'm really good. I'm really good at this. Yeah it's possible. Could be that. Our next story is a little more Kardashians news from the first episode. Because eagle eyed fans are calling out Scott Disick. For having the weight loss drug Manjaro in his fridge.

So in the premiere of season five of the Kardashians, they're in Scott's kitchen and his fridge opens up and he's like showing his like low calorie drinks, fruits and almond milk because they're saying like you look so good. And like in his egg compartment, you could see Manjaro. I just want to say as somebody who was on a GLP-1 medication for many years, I also kept it in my egg compartment. And I would just like anyone who's also currently or has been on any of these drugs, do you also keep, you have to keep it in the fridge.

And I don't know what about like the egg compartment. No, it's literally made for the box. It fits like a glove. It is, right? Okay, do you guys also keep it in there? Like we had like, me and Ben were both on it. So we had like a couple of boxes. It fits perfectly in there.

I want to say something. I feel like this was planted. Like the way it's like seriously like front facing perfect. He obviously staged his fridge for the episode like because it's so perfectly clean and organized. Like I don't know why I felt like it was because now we're talking about the Kardashians. You think?

No. I didn't think that but I would actually prefer that because it makes me like feel a little bad for him if like he exposed himself in this way and really was caught out. And he can share if he's on the drug. We've said so many times someone doesn't have to share, but to have it out there and you didn't put it out there,

that's a little sad. And so I hope that your version is right, but what would be the point of your version? We're talking about the Kardashians episode. Like, this is a business. Okay. I don't know. I feel like the Kardashians are all executive producers.

They don't have, like, flops like this. Really? They might not even think of it. I don't know. Am I wrong in thinking, like, it's possible? Like, is that a bad call? No, I hope you're right. I like that better than, he played like he exposed himself

yeah but I think that um I would love if he talked about it because you know there was a period where he was overweight and it's clear that he used one of these drugs to get back on track he gets often cited as an example of somebody who took it too far because there's like old photos like there was like one day he looked bad yeah yeah but like he was overweight and I think because he had an accident too right right and a lot of things like made it difficult like everyone's everyone's weight journey everybody has something that's stopping something that brings them to manjaro in the egg container I just want to say like relatable I love this I don't know if it was like organic or not either way like we stand yeah yeah no issues I actually sat down to watch Kardashians yesterday afternoon I wasn't feeling

well and I was like okay great I'm just gonna like watch some tv and my remote wasn't working and I couldn't get it on and instead I didn't want you to watch I took a nap which is what I needed or a ring was like very happy that I took a nap and then that was that actually I was out last night I didn't even tell you that I went out where did you go I went out what with Mary Orton no with Olivia Oshry oh my god I'm even more FOMO what did you guys do like have wine no we went to like a little event at our friend's house oh friend disgusting and I drove again um at night I like when like now how many people did you kill none none I'm kidding I'm kidding um but it's uh like it's now fun that I could drive Olivia yeah around it's probably so fun for

Olivia like she can have a wine yeah if I don't even think she did but like she could if she wanted to yeah because you're like sober basically yeah you're not like a person in recovery but you literally don't drink I'm a sober person ATM you are you are a sober person at the moment. Like, I would love to live next to you. Like, great, let's go to dinner. I can get wasted. Yeah. But it is a little boring to get wasted alone. Well, there were other people there.

Oh, well, I had dinner with the Satchel last night. So beat that. Satchel Cratchel? Beat that. I feel like we're literally even because it was sisters and sisters. Yeah. And how was Dear Satchel? Amazing. We went to this restaurant

that has like an uh a secret menu that's all kosher they have a kosher burger a kosher steak kosher chicken mayonnaise kosher chicken paillard so we ate good like I waddled home yum I was actually thinking oh I just want to say people were asking for a sourdough starter update they were asking um I've been feeding it twice a day because she was like the bubbles were small and she was not ready but now it's like doubling every six hours and I think I might go for a bread like today or tomorrow and I'm excited about that and I also I want to cook up a feast tonight I think what should I make for dinner with the bread no with the bread won't be ready for like three days that's the thing about it like you really have to plan in advance what should you make what's the weather super hot

yeah so not like a beef stew or anything like yeah because I was gonna say beef stew maybe you got a barbecue like get some chicken on the grill I think we're gonna barbecue like every day this weekend because it's such barbecue weather but I should go get barbecue tings yeah I'll be going to my country club maybe a pasta salad um I just to say, I wish I didn't check my phone during the episode, because I have so many, like, very interesting text messages. Like, I have a voice memo from somebody, and an Instagram DM from somebody else. Just, like, very interesting, you know?

That you can't share on the show? No, but I feel like you guys can guess. Well, our fifth and final story is a little viral TikTok news, which is a great way to round out the week, because... And it's viral TikTok news that Jackie wanted to talk about like I didn't even send this to her she didn't send it to me you know who sent it to me Shannon Ford Shannon Ford sent it to me and she said I don't know what's you got planned for the fast five today but I really want to hear your guys's take on this and I said Shannon I'll see how things shake out and Shannon there was a spot

for your story and it is this viral video of this wedding in Lake Como gorgeous I think it's Lago de Como Lago de Como new couple getting married and an over-enthusiastic groom starts doing like a champagne shower like he just won the big NASCAR race and he starts champagne spraying his wife next to him now it's so disgusting for so many reasons but he's do you know how fast like champagne can shoot out of that bottle like you can actually hurt someone if you're that close to them so like okay calm down hazardous too are you fucking kidding me like dumbest person on the planet like how many hours did your wife get ready how many thousands of dollars does her dress cost this is the biggest day of her life and you've just ruined her look and like you don't have the

presence of mind in that moment to realize that this is a bad idea like seriously I'm worried for how this person crosses the street I seriously have to imagine that like they planned this like you know you say like we're gonna jump in the uh pool at our wedding people do that all the time like I I seriously like I'm praying that she was like yeah do a champagne shower on me no I think they planned champagne shower I don't think they had to caveat like don't or do turn it on me no bride wants this especially like this is a fancy fucking wedding no and this happens a lot where like things go viral at a wedding mostly the groom being a dick and like how do you how do you uh live with that like okay so it's the next day you're probably on your honeymoon the world thinks your husband's a

prick maybe you're now seeing things like seriously I would love to hear from like a a girl who went viral for her husband being a dick I feel like it happens a lot what happens to the marriage we never get updates oh I think they're in wedded bliss right now and it's so funny that their wedding's going viral and they're they're fine and also like she doesn't look so upset like in the like not like furious in the moment she's kind of like I feel like it'll dawn on her afterwards but sometimes like things get She doesn't look so upset, like not like furious in the moment. She's kind of like, I feel like it'll dawn on her afterwards. But sometimes like things get crazy at your wedding. And I feel like they're just watching the videos and like laughing today.

Yeah. But I do think this speaks to like an idiocy in this man. I'm sorry, my phone is distracting me. in this man. I'm sorry, my phone is distracting me. By the way, 1000%, it also shows to like a, maybe this is like me generalizing and like being dramatic, but like that's a bad husband right there, you know? Like you're supposed to protect your wife as a husband.

Sorry, yeah, I'm really toxically traditional in that sense when it comes to gender roles in a marriage. Like a man should protect his wife at all costs, physically, emotionally, and not only are you not doing that, like you're literally like physically and emotionally hurting her. I'm cracking up. Apparently he posted on his TikTok a picture, like a video of them, a selfie. And it said, day one of honeymoon.

I'm getting canceled on the internet for having fun with my wife. Yikes. No, he's giving really, really toxic. Like I need to hear from the wife. She's welcome on the show anytime. Do you think there's, like, a girl out there who's super chill and, like, doesn't mind getting showered with champagne at her wedding? Yeah, she doesn't get married in Lago da Como,

and she doesn't look like that. Yeah. Like, I'm just using context clues. Yeah. So I'm wishing her well, and seriously, her husband sounds so crazy and scary. Like, I'm being canceled for having and seriously, her husband's head's so crazy and scary, like, I'm being canceled for having fun.

Crazy, very stupid. Yeah. Not like evil, nothing like that. Violent. Like, seriously stupid to not in that second,

like, put together that your gorgeous wife, who spent months, like, getting her look ready, like, that it wouldn't click for you, that she doesn't want to destroy that. Like,

you shouldn't ruin it. On the biggest day of her, like, her life. Right, in Lago Tacoma. Some people just don't deserve to get married. Like you shouldn't ruin it. On the biggest day of her life. Right. In Lago Tacoma. Some people just don't deserve to get married in Lago Tacoma. Ain't that the truth.

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