The Toast - Comma Chameleon: Thursday, May 30th, 2024

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. That definitely feels like, I don't want to be ungrateful, but it feels like, oh, whoa, Thursday? Because we had a short week with Monday. So I'm not rejecting the Thursday, I'm just acknowledging that it's here kind of quickly. It is here kind of quickly. I hadn't acknowledged that it was Thursday, so I'm so grateful to this show because one thing about The Toast, we're going to let you know what day of the week it is.

Nothing in life is guaranteed. And we're going to talk about how it feels to be on that day of the week because it's it's so much more than and there's a fucking hair like in my eye you know and just like get the fuck I don't even know where it is I feel like you're not you're not attacking it in a in the right way you have to be like more surgical I don't't know where it is. It's just like fucking irritating my face. Listen to your body. Close your eyes. Feel the hair.

I think maybe it's like a phantom hair. Like the hair was never in the room with us. Turteloo losing her mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

With her phantom hair as if she doesn't have enough. Yeah. Well, you know, I used to take my hair for granted. But then it started falling out when I started Ozempic. So, like, we can't say things like that anymore. You know, hair isn't guaranteed anymore.

For my whole life, it was. True. Even now, like, I brush my hair and I'm like, is it coming out again? I'm, like, living in panic. Oh, you have phantom hair loss. Yeah, no, I'm definitely, like, scarred from the experience. Oh, well, post phantom hair loss yeah no I'm definitely like scarred from the experience oh well postpartum hair loss that's it's a rough one no it really is I have like I can't even I don't even know what to do with my hair anymore because I have so much like just short hairs maybe you should get a pixie cut make

them all the same length no Claudia they're they're like baby hairs it's not short like I wish it was like pixie okay what about a buzz cut just start over that's the that's the only way sometimes you just have to start from scratch yeah well no yeah well no I love that what if we just said no? Well, okay. Well, today's Thursday, as stated. Right, right, right. Doesn't feel like a Thursday, but that doesn't change the facts. Let's circle back to that. It's Thursday.

We've got a great show. We're doing Dear Toasters. You know, we usually do it on Wednesday. Please don't make me say it again. Is Bruno okay? By the way, I'm hearing a lot of madness. I know nobody else is probably hearing it, but I just want to make sure, like, Bruno's well-being. Wellness check on Bru.

Right. So Bruno's trying to find his way in this studio he went to the other chair to lay with the pillow of Theo but there's a bunch of books on the chair and he couldn't get comfortable and he knocked some stuff over then he came over to this chair right beside me your usual podcasting chair and there is a recipe on the chair that he's trying to get comfortable around so it's a piece of paper on the chair that he keeps standing on well I hear it but I'm sure nobody else does but I just wanted to make sure like Brunello Cucinello was doing okay he's just trying to find his way in this world I mean relatable say what you want about Bruno but

he's never been anything other than a relatable king it's so true he wears his heart on his sleeve I'm really excited and looking forward to the days where Romeo gets to a place where I can bring him to work he's still very much a puppy and he would be extremely distracting. What's the recipe for that Bruno's like currently munching on? Sourdough discard sandwich bread, of course. Of course. Of course. What else is it for? I've started printing my recipes because I'm so sick of trying to like find the same recipe on my iPad and remember which creator's recipe I liked. So now I'm going to start printing them and hopefully put them together like in a binder

for myself. No, you're literally moving backwards. I am moving backwards through time. Yes, I am. I love that. Normalize like writing things down and printing them out. Yeah, I get targeted for a lot of like slow living Instagram reels. Wait, download me. What is slow living? It sounds like something I've already been doing. It's city dwellers. No, because you're a city dweller. City dwellers like moving to like remote areas. The girl I was watching yesterday, she moved to the beach, like a beautiful house on the beach with her husband. And she's just like living out her romance novel fantasies, making everything from scratch, just like dancing around her kitchen, reading books and telling you like your life stinks and slow living how does the printer come into that oh because like back to the like not digital recipes but she's filming from scratch

which right that's always the that's the thing that's my favorite thing about the trad wives is like they live on the farm in the 1900s with their Instagram account and their tripod and their lighting. Yeah no they're they're kind of mod trad wives. Yeah but and the trad wives were like really doing it and really in the trenches we may never know them because they're not on the internet. Right I would say the most authentic of trad wives are the most unknown of trad wives. Exactly. You're inherently inauthentic as a trad wife, if you're an influencer, but that, I mean, that doesn't bother me whatsoever. Like I live for it. I think that's a perfect blend. I don't think any, anything should be all

one way. So you're not like a trad wife purist. No, I'm not. I think that there are so many modern conveniences that we should 100% enjoy and incorporate into our lives like a refrigerator. conveniences that we should 100% enjoy and incorporate into our lives like a refrigerator. Totally. And I think overall, it's a net positive that the trad wives are out there spreading their gospel because it's inspiring other people in small ways. And big. But I do think that you don't have to shirk. I was just, I sent you some trad wife I stumbled upon and she's like a legit trad wife, except

for the fact that she's an influencer now. That's the big but. That's the big but but she was like people think trad wives need to have all these kids and not have a refrigerator and only like and she's like but I'm not that. Oh wow she's kind of like a rebel of the

trad community. A maverick if you will. No but if you saw her page like she's legit not. I'm just saying it's a lot of blending of old and new and I'm here for that. I am also here for what I was trying to say. We went on a random tangent for Deer Toasters. Let me tell you, the Deer Toasters today are so crazy. One of them is for you and one of them is for me.

Like, great. It's really insane. The girlies are seriously in crisis. And I have one thing to say. I'm on my way. Okay. Do we need to like start with Deer Toasters? No, that would be so crazy.

No, there's like, there's a, we have a plan here. Like, let's not just like be crazy. But it's not an emergency situation. Start with Deer Toasters, put the episode out immediately. I'm on my way. We'll be on our way soon. I'm on my way what else is going on

that I could tell you guys about didn't watch Pearl Harbor last night will watch Pearl Harbor at some point this weekend watched more Entourage you're just kind of like I'm slipping back into old habits you know I wanted to go

on this journey of educating myself watching films and shows based on real events no here I am back watching this crap from Entourage where every other word

is the F slur or the R slur it's really so crazy well it's based on real events. No, here I am back watching this crap for a montage where every other word is the F slur or the R slur. It's really so crazy. Well, it's based on real events, no? Mark Wahlberg? That is true. It is technically. It's not based on. It's historical fiction.

It's not based on true events. It's based on real people. Historical fiction. Damn. No, you're right. Loophole. Loophole. Educating and bettering yourself every day.

And fun fact, in the pilot episode mark walberg and like his crew his band of yellow belly losers who the show is based off of all the different characters make an appearance in the pilot they just like you know run into vinnie chase on the lot it's hard to watch this show vinnie chase is to carry bradshaw is to susan meyer he's so awful he might be like the worst of the worst of protagonists dumb bitch like make worse decisions be more irresponsible be a bigger moron if you like he couldn't if he tried it's actually frustrating I will definitely get to a point where I have to stop watching the show because he is so infuriating very Serena Vanderwoodson coded but he's definitely the worst out of all of them I completely agree he's tops tops he's honestly it might be a tie

for first with Carrie Bradshaw she's really up there for like one of the worst protagonists and and you don't realize it the first time you watch the show but when you go back you're like holy shit but also Vinny's like so self-righteous like he seriously thinks he's the goodest guy no for sure and like seriously watch it through the lens of justice for his brother, Johnny Drama. Nobody wanted success more. Nobody worked harder on their physical, mental, on his skills. He went to act like,

he seriously worked so hard. Vinny just kept stepping in shit. Aquaman, Queens Boulevard, like didn't give a fuck. Didn't actually read scripts. Like was so mean to Eric who was doing the most for him. Like gave up his whole life to live with him

I'm sorry re-watch Entourage and you will see you will see that the true hero of the story is Johnny Drama and the villain is Vinny Chase yeah yeah that's for damn sure speaking of content switching gears to 14th century imperial China I started my Redheads book last night. Really quickly, I do think though, that's an accurate depiction of how A-list actors are. They're morons and they're rude and they're idiots and like they're, like they step in shit, you know? Yeah, but when the show runners made the show, like Vinny Chase, like we're supposed to love him.

Were we? I feel like, yeah, I feel like that's the problem. If he was being like a classic actor a-list like what you think of and we could all like the ancillary characters better but I feel like he's supposed to be the one there's no way so hateable there's no way no because he doesn't really do anything outwardly yes he does he's not Yes, he does. I feel like they see him as like the moral compass of the show. No, I think Eric actually is. Really?

He's like the most normal. He cheated on his baby mama? Yeah, well, that comes on later on. But I mean, in terms of like. Spoiler alert. Yeah. Okay. No more spoilers for shows that are 13 years old.

Okay. I'm sorry. Back to your 14th century China. I started the Redheads book last night it's so good and I can just tell like it's gonna be a banger I'm only 10 percent in but like it's hard to get into historical eras that are so foreign foreign and old like just it's what 700 years ago um and it's so gripping all right not even gripping in like a way. Just like I'm into it and I really, really like it. And I'm excited and I've gotten,

I've seen so many positive reviews from the community. Like I think this is going to be a crowd pleaser. Another win for the redheads. Nothing new here. And like bettering ourselves, learning, like learning about a new time and place. I've never read about this time and place. I could see myself like going down a rabbit hole after.

Even just like the stuff about like the binding of the feet is so fascinating. Yeah. Like like serious I don't know anything it's like a symbol I mean I'll learn more I don't know that much but it's a symbol of status it's a status symbol like you know to get your feet like as tight like to get your toes to go to your heel and then like to have like a tiny slit in between that like you could barely like fit a coin into and then you know the people who are like servants are I think slaves because they're being bought and sold like they describe them as big-footed so it's like bad to have a big foot oh man and it's it's good and respectable to have a small foot

and so you make your foot smaller and smaller and you're literally like rearranging your bone no stop that really it gives me the willies it was it was willy inducing like the way you just described it like I actually could but also it's like so harmful for your feet and your body like infections develop bones poke out and you keep them bound like it was and this the protagonist of the story it's a true it's based on a true story about a real woman she is right now in the book she's eight but she will become a doctor. She's like a female doctor of that time who's very impressive. Amazing.

Well, stay up to date with the Redheads on Instagram at the Redheads. And it's truly never too late. Never too late. We record next week. So it's still not too late to read the book and submit a question to the Redheadsbookclub at gmail.com. She said what she said. I did say.

And I feel like so many redheads choices like you've now read. Yes I have. It's a strong bunch. It is there's something for everyone of course there's the uh New York Times bestseller Girl With No Job The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster my memoirs which are available to buy wherever you buy books. I feel like I don't talk about enough that I wrote a book um so just reminder. Reminder also it's camp season and if you have a young one who's headed off to camp, day camp, sleep away camp for the first time, any sort of camp, I have a book for that and it's called The Camper and the Counselor. It's available on Amazon or

anywhere you get your books and it's the beautiful story of a girl conquering her fears, going to camp, finding the love of a counselor and never looking back. Exactly. So check it out. Now Jax, would you describe the Jax would you describe the word the words would you describe the stories for me in three words I don't know if I could do three words but I could do that's what I asked you so I could do like a a synopsis I didn't ask for I feel like today's no well I don't I'm I don't give a rip out the window I a synopsis. I feel like today's, no, well, I don't, I'm, I don't give a rip.

I don't give a rip. I feel like today's stories are like, what people want us to talk about more so than like, you know, the usual that I go for. Okay, so it's giving catering to the audience. It's giving catering to the audience.

Yeah. I love that. Let's see how it goes. Let's see how that goes. Well, I could talk to you about just about anything, Jax. I'm not worried. Oh, I never said I was worried I just thought I was I mean usually we can't like toaster interests our interests shaking hands emoji but there are just like some celeb updates

sort of from this week that we hadn't touched on because there were a lot of stories so now it's time in the words of of whoever's narrating Lion King, it is time. Yeah, we also have some content news. The shows are making news these days. Like Kardashians dropped at midnight. They really need to like do better with that whole time schedule.

Either release it on Thursday, like you're supposed to, not Wednesday at midnight. 9 a.m. If you're going to do Wednesday night, 9 a.m. if you're gonna do Wednesday night 9 p.m. I don't want to complain about it every week but every week it frustrates me when I see all of these headlines of like kind of these big spoilers bombshells being dropped now I don't even care about the spoilers but it's like oh wow that would be a great story except I didn't watch the

whole episode so like I want to know the whole context no it's extremely annoying like seriously do better they're not going. We've been saying this like for five seasons now. Well it must be working for them that's why. Or they're not listening. Does it drop on Hulu West Coast at 9pm or they also have to wait till midnight? I wonder that. I wonder that. Probably

also wait. It's probably still Thursday for them. It's beyond annoying. Yeah. Well on Netflix when something drops at midnight here we get it at 3 a.m. so maybe it actually goes to the west coast at 9 p.m. sound off in the comments you live in the west coast what time does Hulu drop the Kardashians new episodes for you yeah let us know so that's about it turd-a-loo yeah I guess um now I think without further ado we can get into the fast side stories that I think people are gonna ado, we can get into the Fast Tide stories

that I think people are going to be very pleased with. I'm excited. Describe the stories in three words. People. Pleasing stories. People. People. Apostrophe LL.

Be pleased. I don't know. A conjunction is a little bit of a... It's a loophole. It works. It works. I agree. It's all fair in love and loopholes.

And love and conjunctions. Conjunction, junction, what's your function? A conjunction really is a love story. Jackie, that's beautiful. Me as a grammar teacher.

Oh my God. Not you romanticizing grammar. I mean, nobody loves grammar more than you nobody loves a comma no I don't love grammar I love punctuation you love punctuation like when it comes like Oxford commas like should we add the extra comma if it's optional turdy hits comma button yeah that's like that meme no like whenever we do the titles whenever we do the titles I'm like yeah comma and she's like no I love commas maybe today's title in honor of

could be like comma written out comma comma and then written no no it should be like a list of punctuations all separated by commas like periods comma commas comma and exclamations and apostrophes something of that nature something the today's title will utilize turdy's favorite punctuation marks maybe it'll just be like a period a comma an exclamation point in a question mark yeah i don't know how great that is for seo but it's fun for us i can't keep living for the seo jacks like i'm a creative like this the SEO is stifling stifled yeah because we're such creatives you said it and I just have one song to sing come a come a come a come a come a chameleon Jackie 35 seconds ago I meant to sing that but

I forgot and then we like I've literally been sitting here with my mouth open like, comma, comma, comma, comma. Very Dorit chemically coded. So Dorit, thinking of her. Rip. To the marriage. She's still alive. Separated. Will they get back together? Will they?

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I didn't say that. BRB? Yeah. Hailey has some new bling in her life. The model who announced that she's expecting her first child with Justin. I didn't say that. BRB? Yeah. Hailey has some new bling in her life. The model who announced that she's expecting her first child with Justin Bieber flaunted the shiny new sparkler that was worn on her left ring finger in new photos posted on Instagram last week. She appeared to upgrade her original oval shaped ring sporting an enormous diamond in

the same shape on her left ring finger. Oh my God, it's huge. So it looks like she's wearing her new a million dollar diamond ring on her left hand and then her old one on her right hand which was also an impressive diamond oval engagement yeah she made it into like a pinky ring or something yeah okay that's so crazy because I think like her original ring was like the standard for everyone like everyone's inspo everyone was obsessed with it and it was like perfect and gorgeous and the fact that she now has a new one is so crazy. It's literally stunning. I do worry. For like safety? Her safety. Like for real. Like I think we all learned a lot from Kim Kardashian's robbery. Yeah. Yeah. I mean

of course your mind goes there. But it's just like upsetting to talk about. I'd rather just like talk about the. Pretty jewelry for sure. I would love to you know sit and dilly dally talk about. I'd rather just like talk about the pretty jewelry for sure. I would love to you know sit and dilly dally talk about how beautiful the ring is but I worry for my girl like it just reminds me. Yes. Not to be toxic. No no no I know. Yeah I'm glad that she's stuck with the same shape though. It like shows that she likes it you know. Yeah that's so true. No mistakes were made. Zero mistakes. It looks like it's paired with like a pretty little diamond band around it. Yeah. And it's on a gold band.

Yeah. Mixing metals. I guess mixing metals is officially in. Hailey Bieber's of approval. Yeah. Nice for her. They also did their vow renewal. And that was like what was part of their pregnancy announcement.

They renewed their vows. And I think that's why she got a new ring. Yeah. Which is all very sweet. And lovely. So do you still get a push present. Yeah. Which is all very sweet and lovely. So do you still get a push present when you get a one and a half million dollar like pregnancy gift? Yeah. It's not in lieu of.

Especially if you're given like million dollar gifts. Like you're not going to skimp on the big one. No, that's really crazy. I wonder what she'll get for that. What do you think she'll get? I have no idea. What do you get the girl who has everything? Yeah. She'll find something do

celebrities do push presents I think they invented push presents oh did they I think that's a very celebrity thing to do oh cool right I don't know I does everyone do push presents is a better question yeah I feel like just a nice little thing doesn't have to be so crazy but to acknowledge you don't need like a diamond necklace but like hey you just shoved out a baby here's something that I think you'd like here's a gift card like anything whatever it is anything yeah yeah I think nor I think it should be for everyone I think so too and you should demand it yeah yeah yeah are you ready for our next story which has been kind of a crazy saga that has wrapped up um but not without eliciting a lot of questions okay ryan sutter says he and his wife trista are trying to do their best following her cryptic absence yeah she like

disappeared yeah so ryan and trista are doing their best amid concerns of trouble in paradise following Trista's mysterious absence concerns that were raised after he posted something really fucking weird yeah like don't put this on us yeah we didn't like and certainly not us but I didn't even think it was like sleuths like digging around looking no where Trista is like he put out a Mother's Day statement that was really weird and pointed to like where in the world is Trista Sutter. Read it to us. Right. So this is what he said.

Hold on. They make it so difficult in these articles. Oh, Claudia, you know. Just post it. The cryptic Mother's Day post. Hold on. I'm on it. I'm on it.

No, they make you go to another link. Okay, here it is. I know you wish you were here for Mother's Day pose. Hold on. I'm on it. I'm on it. No, they make you go to another lane. Okay, here it is. I know you wish you were here for Mother's Day. We wish you were too. But sometimes being a mom means letting go of their hands, granting independence, and stimulating their courageous spirit. Sometimes it's necessary to exemplify the characteristics you preach to do rather than say.

Sometimes it takes being uncomfortable and scared to show them that it's okay to be uncomfortable and scared. Sometimes you have to go away so they know you'll come back. That your love is not limited by distance or difficulty or time. Sometimes you have to do what you sometimes have to do. We're proud of you mama pajama for everything you do for us near or far. Happy Mother's Day. So it sounds like, seriously, like she went to go get help for something. Yes. It sounds like she went away to either like a rehab

or a mental health facility. That's what it sounds like. And seriously, if you don't want people asking questions, like you're inviting this sort of attention with that type of Mother's Day post. Of course. It was also for some people like giving death. Yeah, well, the first line, read it again. We wish you were here with us. that type of Mother's Day post. Of course. It was also for some people like giving death. Yeah.

Well, the first line, read it again. We wish you were here with us. Rip. Rip. So people were like concerned and then didn't know where she was. And then it went on for a few days before like she came back and was like, hey, I'm here. She did go away to focus on herself somewhere. But like, I think she should be able to do that without people knowing that she's away like if I was her and I got home and I saw that that's what he posted while I was gone. Jail. Jail. Yeah I had this realization um a couple of years ago and I feel like it's a lesson you have to learn the hard way when you share you know details of your life with the public but you don't have to share everything. Especially if you're not sharing because this was a not share share. Yeah and then it kind of like forced her to share. Yeah like don't have to share everything. Especially if you're not sharing because this was a not share share. Yeah.

And then it kind of like forced her to share. Yeah. Like don't give everyone crumbs. They weren't even hungry. Yeah. I'm just like a big fan of like sometimes keeping your thoughts to yourself. Yeah. That was really weird.

Sometimes you have to do what's best for you sometimes. No, it's really strange. Mama, mama, Trista pajama. Oh, it's really strange. Mama Mama Trista Pajama. Oh, well then, then, you know, the sort of callback to Red Llama, Mama Pajama, my least favorite book on the planet. It's not the worst one, Claudia. And I've really actually been getting into it recently. Let me tell you why, first of all. What is the message of the book? Okay, we're talking about Llama Llama Red Pajama, that one, because there's a bunch of spinoffs that have better messages. Isn't Llama Llama Red Pajama the original book like that launched this franchise?

And the name of the Netflix show is Llama Llama Red Pajama. So first of all, I don't think that the illustrations are like cute enough. Like it's not camper and counselor. It's very avant-garde almost. Like it's kind of dull. The colors. Like I don't think it pops. Okay.

And I would say for me it lands in the middle if the other end of the extreme of like abstract not popping is like the giving tree yeah nothing but I think the giving tree is actual and this is being it's resting on the laurels of its message no the message is about you know material items and so if they were to come in with all these crazy fakak you know it's kind of reflective emblematic if you will of the moral of the story which is like less is more I think shell wrote the story realized he had a banger on his hands and didn't want to shell out for an illustrator and he said I'm keeping it all I think he worked extra hard to find an illustrator who could illustrate the actual message of the book I'm being dead serious could pare down who could

pare it down so wait back to red llama for one, I don't like the illustrations, but I guess art is subjective, so that's just me. The message of the book really bothers me because you could actually argue both sides. One, is Mama Llama neglecting her child? Or two, are we sending a message to the children, if you scream and cry, you'll get what you want? They're both toxic, whichever way you argue.

The kid is screaming upstairs, screaming upstairs. Mom's on the phone doing the dishes, gabbing on the phone with her friends. Your kid is having a fucking breakdown upstairs. Something could be wrong. Get your ass upstairs. Yeah. Then I could also argue, kid, shut the fuck up.

There's literally nothing wrong. It's time for bed. You screaming, crying, throwing up, and then your mom like running upstairs. It's the boy who cried wolf. It's the llama who cried wolf. I also, I need to know how old llama is like is he too old to be acting that way he's sleeping in a bed he's not in a crib right was how old is that trying to like

show him how old is that it varies for people three four but it could be although he could be 12 right three plus bed but he has a little stuffed animal so maybe he's he's like six I just I don't like the book like maybe she was trying to show him like you know let him cry But he has a little stuffed animal. So maybe he's like six. I just, I don't like the book. Like maybe she was trying to show him like, you know, let him cry it out a little. And then he was weeping, wailing for his mama. So she goes to help him and to show him like,

mama's always here and mama always comes back. That was the moral of the story. It's like, even though you're scared to be alone, like your mom is always there. I don't know. Just like gossip girl downstairs, gabbing on the phone when your kid is like having serious issues. I don't know. What message does that send?

Because to me, it read as neglect. To me, it read as like mama's been working hard all day, putting llama llama on her back, making him sourdough from scratch. And like it's bedtime and now it's her time. No, of course. So then you could argue the other side. Like we're enabling this type of toxic behavior from our children. You could seriously argue any side of this book. Yeah no I agree like when I read it I'm not left with the greatest feeling and I'm certainly not left with the takeaway message of like mama's always here. I'm

either left with feeling like mama shouldn't have left him screaming or like if you're gonna take that stance like you gotta ride it out not give him what he wants what do you think goes in the hall of fame of children's books obviously the giving tree what's that what obviously the camper and the counselor what's that one um wish you may wish you might you know she's holding him he's holding her you know that one I love you forever always my baby what is it it? I love you forever. Like Always My Baby, forever you'll be. Forever you'll be.

That to me goes in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, that's a good one. But people have issues with it. It always like surfaces every once in a while. I know. People are like, this is creepy

because at the end like he's holding his little granny mama. It's so fucking sweet and anybody who thinks anything different. Oh, and also because like she climbed,

when he's a grown man she climbs up the side of his house and gets into bed with him. Yeah, if you're disgusting like she climbed, when he's a grown man, she climbs up the side of his house and gets into bed with him. Yeah, if you're disgusting, like you could see the book in a disgusting way. I don't view the world that way. I'm more of like a purist, if you will.

So yeah, if you want to make perfect the enemy of the good, sure, go off queen. To me, that book is in the Hall of Fame. It is, it's beautiful. It's about the circle of life. No, it's so sweet. It can make you cry, like for real. real yeah it's so funny how like the classics you buy them because that's what's done but they actually most of them like don't really resonate the ones that you think are

gonna like really hit I mean Rainbow Fish written by Karl Marx himself more like communist fish no it's like the other fish were communists yeah and they indoctrinated I think the message of of rainbow fish is like bullying works group think is real yeah herd mentality herd mentality school of fish mentality literally yeah no and then what are the other biggies we've got them but the ones that we wind up like really gravitating towards are ones that I hadn't heard of before I bought them. For whatever reason, they popped on the shelf. Right.

And again, it better rhyme. And that's one, as long as I've been, you know, ragging on Llama Llama, that iambic pentameter, that rhyme is so sick. She doesn't miss. I need seriously like the world's leading rapper to come in here and be like Llama Llama. Claudia, I just wanted to say you need to Google right now Ludacris Llama Llama Red Pajama. Did he do a song? He did a video because he was like, I guess, reading to his kid and he had the same thought as you.

And it's you'll never get this out of your head. OK, wait, he did it on a radio show. Is that what I'm looking at? Was that? Yeah, I think so. Power 106 Los Angeles? Perhaps. Llama Llama, Red Pajama.

Lucas is here. Yeah, man. The Furious. Indeed, it's mom. Hey, Llama Llama, Red Pajama. Reads a story with who? Mom. Hey, Mama kisses.

What? Baby hair. Baby hair. Llama Llama goes all the way downstairs. Hey. Llama Llama. What? Red Pajama. Llama. Put baby hair. Mama llama goes all the way downstairs. Llama llama. What? Red pajama.

Llama. Feels alone with who? Without his mama. Baby llama. Obsessed. This is the type of activism I need from celebrities. Like, this is gorgeous. Llama llama who?

Red pajama. No, no. Obsessed. Because that's literally how I read it. Like, when i was reading i was like this is sick this is amazing i love that video i'm gonna watch the whole thing that wasn't the whole thing but i hope you all enjoyed that yeah so go check it out if you're looking for a little pick me up no like i'm obsessed with ludicrous that's so funny so funny right llama llama red that's kind of like when um who was that tyler the creator did the grinch oh yeah well he was on the soundtrack yeah i love that that they're because like kids shit like really is inherently rap you know it's like freestyle rhyming poetry right yeah

i love this yeah even though i wasn't crazy about every time you play that Tyler, the creator, Grinch soundtrack, I'm not crazy about it. I think they could have done better. No, I feel as though it could be better. Yeah. But I love the idea. Yeah. The remix.

But the classic one, You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch, Jim Carrey, is like still the number one. But they had some fun with it. No, I actually like their version. It's all over TikTok. Is it? You're a mean one. You really are a he.'re as cold as a knee

actually i like what they did there i know but then there's another one on the soundtrack it's called um i am the grinch i don't know who i'm gonna disgrace when i say it and it literally like phoned it in it's like they i am the the Grinch, Cindy Lou Who, my dog is Max. Like just like stating facts about the book, like nothing. No creative liberties. And then of course, I know you hate to discuss them,

but Pentatonix. Gotta rest in merry gentlemen with nothing you to say. Remember Grinch our savior was born on Christmas day. Yeah, that one pops on the soundtrack. No, by the way, I don't know if I've ever like formally retracted what I've said about Pentatonix.

They just used to bother me. They were always showing up in corny places. And I was definitely just judging a book by its cover. I thought they were corny based on no research, just vibes. Which sometimes is a fair assessment. But this time it wasn't because they do such amazing work. I actually saw them perform live at the Jingle Ball. They did their rendition of Hallelujah, which is insanely gorgeous but seriously like you

want to talk about skill you want to talk about talent you want to talk about genius listen to their there can be miracles like their version seriously could bring a tear to even an atheist's eye like it's so gorgeous yeah it's really true that's sweet of you to say they put their whole penta pussy into that one yeah they they have pent pentussi i think pentatussi yeah pentatussi okay well are you ready for our next story sure something that has made major news and waves over social media this week is that hayley Page, the wedding dress designer, has settled her lawsuit with JLM over her name and designs and everything. So basically for the last few years, Haley Page, the wedding dress designer, could not

design under her name, could not post on her Instagram account because the brand that she had been working with, JLM Couture. And if you're unfamiliar, like who's Haley Page? There was a time when every bitch like needed and wanted a Haley. It was like the ultimate status symbol. So for her to have like gotten that, like it was such a big deal.

And I actually felt bad because when it happened, everybody was like, oh my God, oh my God. But then nobody really like, I think kept up, maybe a couple of people, but there wasn't as much fanfare and like support for her because it's literally a lawsuit that lasted how many years four yeah and I think people just kind of like forgot about it and that's really sad because she had like such a major company but she won right she won um she got a lot of like legal precedents set she said

and she pretty much like won on every count so she has her Instagram back which has over a million followers she can design under her own name Haley Page she can call herself Haley Page like I think that deal that she did with JLM like gave them everything which is also just a you know a good lesson for people to learn um read the fine print the Haley Page name and social media accounts back to Haley Page and now she can design wedding dresses again I'm sure she has probably so many designs that she's been working on over the last few years I'm really rooting for her I do wonder what her dresses like look like now because when she was really popular it was very like trendy and of the moment very beachy energy like all

the girls with long blonde hair were just vying for a Hayley Page but you know trends change especially in like the wedding industry. Like, so I wonder if she's going to still design for that or if she's totally changed her vibe. I feel like she will evolve into what's more trendy now, but she'll still have her Hailey page stamp of approval sort of thing. Like they won't be so dissimilar. But, you know, no one just stays where they are.

They move and change with the times kind of a big day to be named Haley yeah lots of Haley news I'm happy for you love to see a woman in business yeah you love to see legal precedent being set and people being able to own their names like that's your name it's crazy that like you can't even use your name well that's like Bobby Brown what happened with Bobby well nothing happened she sold her company I think to Estee Lauder so it's like this huge conglomerate and I do they put like a 10 year maybe more she can't make makeup with her name on it which kind of makes sense like how do you then yes it's her name but like this company paid like

nine figures no no probably like seven or eight for a makeup company with this person's name so if she just goes and uses her face and her name to make another makeup company then it just like devalues the one she just sold yeah that makes sense yeah has that been a scandal that she can't use her name or it's just no so then she released her own makeup company and I think there was like an x amount of time that she could release a makeup company and like the day that that set of time statute of limitations was up, she released Jones Road. She can't, I don't think, ever make makeup with her name on it.

But Jones Road is the name of her new company. Okay. I think that's fair. Yeah, me too. Like it's just business. Yeah, same. Yeah. Cool.

Our next story, a bit of real estate news, an update from story from last week about Sonia Morgan's townhouse selling at auction. It has finally sold for $4.45 million after a two-week online auction wrapped up on Wednesday. So that is about half of the original listing price, which was $9.95 million. As we go on, we remember all the times we... This is truly the end of an era. And I knew it was up for auction. I knew the house was being sold. But like, I don't know why.

Like, I didn't think it was actually going to be... Because it's kind of like this joke. Like, she can't get rid of it. She can't get rid of it. Like, Sonya Morgan doesn't own the townhouse anymore. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, it is. And the buyer got a really good price. Right. She bought it for what? Seven? Nine. Well, that's the magic of this house was that her ex-husband paid for it.

Right. Right. But like, I wonder if she, the bank at one point was like, did she own it outright? I think she got it in the divorce. So it was kind of like this thing she was sitting on that. So she gets 4.4 or 5 million dollars in her pocket. I think so. That's good. Yeah. Okay that's good. It's time. It's also just an amazing price for you know a classic six on the Upper East Side. Yeah but it requires a lot of renovation. Yeah. But there's so much you could do with it. And I do wonder like you know who purchased it. Of course I respect the privacy of the buyer at this time. But does the history that and the cultural context that comes along with it does that entice the buyer? Do they not care? Like I don't know. But as we discussed I think it has

an opposite effect. Yeah no it definitely hurt the purchase price you could even like renovate it and make it an Airbnb not for like Bravo fans but like just for anyone because people don't care if they rent Sonya Morgan's townhouse for a period of time no even someone who could rent a townhouse like they're coming to New York for x amount of time and they could rent a whole ass townhouse wealthy people like don't want this type of attention they look down on like reality star kind of like b-list energy but if you just like saw it on a rental site and it was totally changing you never watched housewives like you wouldn't know yeah but like it would you would soon find out with people like stopping by and like taking pictures of your house yeah well like people who can afford that are extremely private yeah so but I mean it's a great deal like who if

you're an investor you don't want to pass up this deal. No, it's so true. But like how much time do you need to own it before you can sell it without those sorts of strings attached? I think it will die. It's not like people stand outside all day. Like I think it's okay. And as more time passes, the less interest there will be. Like it's just a woman's house from an old show. Every time I walk past it, I just like take a picture of my, like a selfie, but with it, but in the back, like I always do. Yeah, that's, that's fine. I don't think like people like, like it's not.

You think people like knock on the door and shit? No, and there's a, a gate. Kind of, like you can just open it. But there's a million houses, like anyone who's been on TV, like their house is on TV. Like it just, it's a. It is what it is. It's a way of the world anyone who's been on TV, like their house is on TV. Like it just, it's a. It is what it is. It's a way of the world. It's so crazy.

Yeah. Well, I'm happy that that's the end of that. Well, I don't know how I feel. I wouldn't say I'm happy. I'm nostalgic, if you will. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

A little more content news. I guess. The Summer House reunion trailer dropped. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? A little more content news. I guess. The Summer House reunion trailer dropped. The season finale is tonight, but the reunion trailer dropped, and there are some bombshells. West Wilson hints that temptation from female Bravo fans ruined his romance with Sierra Miller. That's so upsetting.

Like, seriously. Yeah, that is. And really crazy. Did you also, I also wanted to say, did you see that he was, like like profiled in the New York Times? I did. And I was like excited to like see the hype of Wes. Wes, what the hell is his name?

I feel like his given name is Wes and his nickname is Wes. That's how I see it. So I saw before I caught up on somewhere, I was like, everybody's simping for Wes. And I was like, oh my God, love. And they were saying he's like a good guy, good guy. And while I like him and I think his personality is great and he adds a lot to the show like he's not this like chivalrous king like him saying to whoever it was that like he couldn't

really be exclusive with Sierra because they hadn't had sex like ew yeah like respect to Sierra for not like I what so it's like pressuring someone that's having sex with you to get what they want like I don't like that at all and I don't know he kind of gives like a little bit of fuck boy energy I don't know why we're like looking past that because he's like cute with a mustache yeah I agree also I feel like whenever like serious media will like ignore reality tv for so long and then like get so excited and focus on this guy who's been on eight episodes we like don't even know him he's having a good arc because like Sierra's making him look good because Sierra likes him and like where's the profile on Paige like where's the profile on Sierra I completely fucking agree like where's

the profile I'm like how sick it is what's happening with the girls on Southern uh Southern House what's it called Summer House like how like Lindsay and like I think that story and how they're all getting along but it's the best season yet like what can we learn from that that's an article worth reading New York Times and I don't want to clown I like actually like Wes but you're right like they never get the attention of like elite media and when they do it's the new guy who's like kind of being a dick right who like has funny proven himself no but he's he's been fine but like hasn't we don't know him no and seriously after seeing Jesse Solomon's original song that's a profile worth writing and his back his story that he has showed I'm sure

Wes has an interesting story but like we've seen so much Jesse Solomon has been really vulnerable yep no and like every every 24 hours I'm like in the kitchen what would Jesse Solomon do like obsessed yeah it's just like I'm so glad you brought that up and i wonder what made the other castmates feel who've been like carrying the show on their backs for seven seasons right and i feel like a lot of times someone comes in has a really strong first season in the second season it's like not so much i would just like have waited to give the new york times stamp of approval until we actually know this person. If the New York Times was always writing about Summer House, then this would have been like a worthy.

Of course. But it's like the one thing you're going to mention is the new guy who like, kind of like, he's been doing a lot. He's cute and he's fine. Yeah, he like, it's different. Like he has a mustache and a mullet or whatever. And he has a good personality and people like him.

Okay. He's been such a good friend to Jessie. I love their friendship. Cool. we see good friends all the time yeah no I I thought it was weird too yeah there's just like so many other interesting angles for reality tv for this show like for Bravo yeah weird what was the story oh so what else came out trailer reunion trailer what came from the trailer is what I'm saying oh so that is one of the big headlines then also of course Lindsay and Carl um is Carl scared of Lindsay yes Lindsay seeing

someone new who hasn't watched the show I feel like when people talk about Lindsay like the and Andy was like oy because he hasn't watched a show yet and I guess if he saw what's on the show he would I never watched Summer House when Lindsay was this sort of indefensible crazy person maybe I need to but I'm not going to she's evolved like she's grown up she and the thing is is that like a lot of the crazies like things that people associate with Lindsay her powerpoint you never make me a sandwich like a lot of her crazy behaviors, like in relationships, like romantic ones, not so much. Who never made her a sandwich?

Steven. She's had so many boyfriends on the show. Like when you think about the show started, Everett. I remember Everett. They came on the show together. Like I started the first season until I dropped off. Everett recently got married. Lindsay was there.

And I think Everett's wife is pregnant. Like so nice. Everett. Yeah. And then Steven, who was the sandwich guy. And I think Everett's wife is pregnant like so nice Everett yeah and then Steven who was the sandwich guy and I think also the powerpoint guy um I don't know like say what you want about Lindsay like she has never been anything other than herself and she has been so honest remember was that last season when she talked about the miscarriage she had with the guy from Winter House. Like. So. Real. Yeah. Also.

I wanted to ask. Maybe you know. But I don't. Like. Because I didn't watch. What's more life? I have no fucking idea. But you've seen it.

Like. It's like more life. Carl. Because I guess one time he said more life. What was he talking about? None of the. You are speaking Chinese to me. I'm not sure what you're talking about. And also.

They have a sign in their house. That says more life. Because it's like. You know. One of his taglines. From Chinese to me. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Okay, and also they have a sign in their house that says more life because it's like, you know, one of his taglines from when he said more life. I've never heard of it. And they'll talk about like more life Carl. Carl. Like just like they'll talk about hub, whatever, you know, like. Hub house.

Oh, I wanted to talk about that. I was just talking about that with someone. You know, Lindsay like bought a house in Nashville, like a townhouse, and renovated it and made it into, like, an Airbnb where people can, you know, everyone who goes to Nashville for, like, a bachelorette party, girl's trip, everybody stays in an Airbnb. It's, like, a huge market there, and a lot of people bought real estate, young people, and it's, like, passive income for them.

So it's, like, a really smart business decision of hers. But she's also, like, branded it, like, stay in the house of a girl from Summer House. I think it's so smart. It's so smart. And I've never seen any other every reality star like there's like sort of a a template of things you can do you know start your own business podcast whatever I've never seen anybody do this I think it's so smart because I think the even without the reality show buying an Airbnb in a town like Nashville with like a you know a lot of tourism is a really smart business decision and branding it with this show like like, I think it's genius.

Right, because also she's outfitted it so that, like, fans of the show are into it. It's called Hub House. But also I've seen pictures and it's like anyone who's going on a bachelorette party who wants, like, neon signs and a pool table. It's just, like, lit. And you don't have to be a fan of the show to rent it. It is really genius. No, I thought it was so smart.

It, like, made me want to do Toast House. Like, if we just had an Airbnb that was, like, so toasty. Everybody, like, bachelorette parties for people who don't listen to the toast could, like it's so smart. It's really like kind of a no-brainer except it seems like a lot of work, but. Yeah, it does.

Aren't all good things? Yeah. Anything worth doing? I'm excited for Summer House. I forgot that that was on tonight. I need to like now think about what I'm gonna have for dinner and like plan my whole evening around it.

Maybe get a frozen yogurt. What am I gonna have for dinner? What protein am I gonna make for my tailored farms? I know what I'm gonna have for dinner and like plan my whole evening around it maybe get a frozen yogurt what am I gonna have for dinner what protein am I gonna make for my tailored farms I know what I'm gonna have because last night Ben made chicken lettuce wraps and we have so much left over and he's gone so I'm gonna have that in a hero bread tortilla last night I made meatballs and I still have some I could do that if I don't want to like get down and dirty again yeah I mean you might not want to you might just sort of ease into summer house but with the full belly otherwise I'll just be snacking the whole time classic me that's my downfall like those evening snacks I don't know how to put a lid on it I know but it's just like I'm sabotaging myself I know whatever let's not go let's not go down that dark path.

So we do have Dear Toasters, which I have kind of, not been teasing, just kind of like hyping it up a lot. It is really good and I'm really excited to do it. And I'm excited to let you know that Dear Toasters is brought to you by ByHeart, which is a new sponsor here at the show that Jackie and I have been loving discussing. We have been because ByHeart, if you don't know, is an infant nutrition company built from the ground up to deliver real innovation on behalf of babies and parents their mission is

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A grilled cheese? No, it was a cheese spread. Okay. A spreadable cheese. Okay. And I was like, I just want to like confirm that this is worth all the time and energy. I want to see what ingredients were in the bread that I used to use. So I pulled it out of the fridge and like laundry list of ingredients.

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Even if it's not a happy ending, it's okay. Hey, Jackson Turd. I'm in my third trimester with my second child and I just had my culture swab test. I've been with my husband for 11 years and an STD was detected. I had the test done in my first trimester and both times with my first child and they all came back negative. My husband swears he has never cheated on me. We haven't been with anyone else since 2013 and he has no idea how I could have

gotten chlamydia. Now I'm super pregnant. I'm going to give birth in two weeks. I have a disease and I'm beyond pissed at my husband. I have no idea if he did cheat. I have no reason not to believe him. But I also need to hear how the fuck I have an STD at almost 10 months pregnant. If I'm not at work, if I'm not at work, I'm hanging out with my almost one and a half year old. So she's basically saying she didn't cheat. My husband and I work together at a restaurant that we own, so I know how much he's at work too

and everyone there. He does generally work longer hours than I, so I'm normally home before him. Before work, he goes to the gym and every morning for over two hours on our off days. Please help from a very confused emotional level. So she's saying there's a window of opportunity for him. Yeah. So I feel conflicted because like your stress levels and just like your mental

well-being are of the utmost priority so like my advice would be like just to not think about this for a few weeks like get your chlamydia taken care of of course but like you're in your nesting area like you'll figure very like how when when Chloe found out about Tristan like she just sort of like shut down to him emotionally and was just focusing on her baby and like getting through the birth in the most sound of mind way. And I think that should be a priority.

I disagree. I don't wholly agree. I think that's one way to go about it. Depends, like can you get involved in this and not let it like completely take over? But I don't know how you could just like put this to the side. And I also think that for Chloe, like she did what she had to do in the moment but she's like still

suffering from everything and maybe because like she didn't process it also I think it's easier to deal with stuff when you're pregnant than when you have a newborn and then like when do you even come out of when does it get quote-unquote easy and by then it's been so long and has he been cheating this whole time like this is an immediate problem that needs to be solved now. And I would first talk to your doctor and ask your doctor if there is any way on earth that you could get chlamydia anyway, even if it's a 0.001% chance you could get it from a toilet. I don't know. I'm just saying, is there any way you could get chlamydia without it being from your husband?

So I, when I read this, I Googled it because I like, you can't, it's a sexually, like they're transmitted through vaginal, through genital fluids. So unless he accidentally, like, swiped a vagina and put it on his penis, like. Or unless she, did the doctor's office give her chlamydia? Oh, that's interesting. That's, but, no, no, no, but you couldn't get it from another woman, I don't think. Oh, actually, why not? Can lesbians get chlamydia?

Like, yeah, for sure. Chlamydia and gonorrhea can be passed between women through shared sex toys, hands, and the rubbing of vulvas. Yeah. So, talk to your doctor first and be like, what are the odds, what are the chances that he did not give it to me? Like, is there a real possibility?

You tell her to be real with you because, you know, she's seen some stuff, you know? Yeah, right. And then if it shakes out that like really the only way you could have gotten it is from him. Like you need to put him in an interrogation room until he either admits it or you go through his phone or you look the cameras at your restaurant and you talk to like we need to know if this man gave you chlamydia while you were pregnant. Let me ask another question. Did we test him for chlamydia? Great question. But I don't know if men some diseases can men test positive. Yes so I think it's like they test positive but they don't have symptoms. I think they're just carriers. I think it's like they test positive but they don't have symptoms.

I think they're just carriers. Oh yes. No it can. Go get him tested. Like don't tell him where you're going. Take him to your doctor. Pull him by the ear. Yeah but if he knows you.

Like how long ago was this? If he knows. Like he might have. Because he has to treat it too. So he might have just gotten like a sly prescription. True. Well go to your pharmacy. See what he's filled of recently. Like get to sleuthing.

This is the time. You absolutely like need to get to the bottom of this. that is so not only is he cheating on you while pregnant not having safe sex like yeah the risk goes on so many layers not thinking for one second putting your child in your belly in danger like oh my god yeah I'm actually in agreement with Jackie like it's it's such a layered betrayal not This cannot wait. If true, cheating is horrible. Cheating on your pregnant wife adds another like layer of behemoth energy. Having unsafe unprotected sex, putting your wife's health in danger, putting the baby in her belly in danger.

Like there's so many layers to this betrayal. So we need to confirm that he did this before we kick him to the curb out on his ear I'm taking the house the kids in the restaurant and you can have your chlamydia you can keep you can have your horse and your chlamydia how about that oh I hate if it's true please send me an update like I'm I'm begging you now this next one is so crazy I need an update like today today tell me what this next one is less severe but it's not any less crazy hey she said it's an accompanying screenshot so I'll read it but I'll do my best to protect the identity of everyone involved hello swirlies how would you handle the situation am I crazy to be offended so I got family

photos done for a lot of money last fall. And the photographer randomly posted multiple photos from my shoot that she did with this caption. For reference, I never once mentioned to her that I was insecure about my looks and my appearance isn't something that I'm upset about or normally triggered by. I do not know her besides at the hour

we spent together on pictures and she just posted three photos of my family on her Instagram with this caption. Mamas, don't wait until you lose those last 10 pounds. I hear this all the time from my mama clients. We are so hard on ourselves. I too used to use this as an excuse and you know what? I regret the years we skipped family photos because I was not 100% happy with my looks. Your family loves you no matter what you look like. I promise you that you will look back on these family photos and they will make you smile and be so happy that you took those photos.

Time goes by too quickly. Our kids, yada, yada. There's still time. And then like promoting, there's still time left to book a family session while we still have this gorgeous spring. You are 100% justified in being upset. This is literally one of the most discussed. Like even if you had shared that you were insecure and you're glad you did it,

even though you, let's say you had shared that this was your story. Her sharing that on her Instagram is a violation of just a code of ethics that I think photographers hold. Photographers see you in deeply personal moments, especially like, you know, I think of like a wedding photographer, like she's in there with you. Like photography is so personal. And I think they, most photographers take that vow very seriously this is a betrayal you need to blow this bitch up first of all her using pictures of you like on her Instagram no no like first of all you own those pictures and she depends what the photographer agreement is not everyone but typically like when you get like photos wedding photos like you own them

no typically like you have to ask and you sign like a waiver when you hire a photographer and you have to ask like that they not use a photo on their website. If you don't want pictures of your family, like out there, it's not the standard. Got it. Well, find out who owns them. And if you have a right to tell her to take it down, it's so funny because this girl probably thinks that she's like, you know, a female warrior, like, don't worry, you're perfect the way you are. And it's like, you're the worst. How about about that like you think that you're like so empowering and supportive but like you're an asshole hate jail lock her up throw away the key I don't know what you can actually do by way of getting her to take it down but like you're so right to be offended no no send her a

message like you need to clock this bitch and if you want if she wanted to be vulnerable like about her journey because she said I always regret put an ugly picture of you on there who the fuck is this photographer to use somebody else to like this is so crazy you are 100% justified like you need to blow this bitch up in the dms like so badly yeah this is like the worst kind of girl yeah who thinks she's like sisters come on we could do it empowering she's like literally making this woman feel like shit on the neck of another woman hate hate this is so crazy yeah goodbye certainly whatever you could listen within your power don't use her again do not recommend her in fact like

de-recommend her and honestly I would post it but it's like embarrassing for you like why should you have to be embarrassed no I wouldn't you have to send her a message publicly with this because also you're giving her more attention like try and handle it privately don't give her too much if it is what it is and you can't do anything about it let it go and let it be and just know like you're right and she's wrong. In the screenshot she sent, like there is the photographer. Like I literally want to message a photographer like, and right, delete this. Yeah.

She'd be so confused. She would be. That would be funny. It's literally insane. All right. Ready for the third and final two toasters? Yeah. Help.

I recently caught my husband smoking. We've been married for 12 years and I'm very anti-tobacco slash smoking of any kind. I've had suspicions before but never had anything concrete to base it on. For context, I went looking for my husband around our house one day and I found him outside hiding in a corner sharing a cigarette with his mother. I lost my shit, took the kids and left. All he had to say was, last time I checked, I'm over 18. I feel like I can't trust him anymore and I feel so disrespected. This is and always has been a non-negotiable for me. I can't even stand to look at him now. This isn't something I can get over but how do I move forward? Thanks. This is tough for me to

advise because that would not bother me. What would bother me is like the secretness but of course he feels like he has to do it in secret because it's such a deal breaker for you. Yeah, I can't relate to this because I don't want my husband smoking. And if I did find out that Ben, like, had been creating this secret smoking habit, like, I wouldn't take the kids and leave. Like, I happen to think this is like an overreaction. But everybody, like, certain people, you know,

you might have lost someone to lung cancer. Like, it's triggering for some people. so I can't get into your head space because I think you're being a little crazy but that doesn't mean you are being crazy do you know what I mean? Yeah and I'm sure you have your reasons but I think that there can be resolution between the two of you. This is certainly not grounds for divorce. I think whatever the reason is that why it upsets you so much, you need to take the time to explain that to him. And normally I always say like,

it's not really the crime, it's the coverup. But him like secretly smoking is not the same as like him secretly like going, I don't know. Well, the thing is it's not, there's no coverup when there's no crime. Right, right. And so like to us, this isn't a crime. But, and it's not, objectively it's not a crime. Like running and going and't a crime but and it's not objectively it's not a

crime like running and going grabbing a cigarette like that's not a crime but it's upsetting to you yeah and I would sit him down and be like listen I don't want you to smoke I understand that it's like something you're interested in pursuing I would love to work on this together like I don't know maybe putting it more out there will make it easier for him to stop but also like how I'm seeing it how often is this happening I'm thinking like once a quarter you know every few months like not like because you can't really hide like a full smoking addiction because of the smell the teeth everything yeah or like once every few weeks what is it when he drinks is it you know once a week that's

that's getting to be something yeah I don't have all the things men can do if you absolutely abhor something and your husband's doing it once a week that's too much yeah I guess I'm trying some people have a cigarette like once a year once a quarter maybe you may come up with an agreement with him where it's like, yeah, four cigarettes a year you get. Yeah. I don't know. I feel I'm ill-equipped to answer and help. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Because I really can't get into your head space. I think that there needs to be dialogue, communication, and eventually there will be resolution. Yeah. Dialogue. Dialogue is the answer. And compromise. Let's agree on a number of cigarettes per year i like that that way everyone's expectations are set and you can expect

ever in a pinch he can you know express himself yeah and i'm sure he'll go over his allotted number of cigarettes but at least like you won't be so betrayed when you find that he smoked one because like you allowed a little bit but I think you can you know take the kids back home I think so unless there's other issues in which case you didn't leave the kids at grandma's yeah but like I feel like if there were other bigger issues you would have shared that yeah um well thank you to everyone who wrote in again if you want to write in it's deartoasters at gmail.com or thetoastpodcast.com. If you have an update for us, we would love to hear from you, especially girl number one.

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