The Toast - Confessions of a Mucus Plug: Tuesday, April 8th, 2025

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly, it's The Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy, what is it? Tuesday. Oh, only Tuesday. Oh.

It's the Toast. It's the Toast. It's the Toast. It's the Toast. It's the Toast. It's the Toast. It's the Toly, it's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy, what is it? Tuesday. Oh, only Tuesday. Dave, choose.

Oh. You choose. Make a choice, quickly. Myself. Brutino. Claudia. Brutino. Turdy.

Bruce is my choice today. He's in the studio with me looking handsome as ever, handsome Diablo. Diablo? Yeah, he's a handsome devil. Oh, is that what Diablo means? I should know that as a Tosada. You should, I'm pretty sure. Bruno's not a handsome devil, he's a handsome angel.

Momma's angel. He's a devil on opposite today. Whoa. Brody, hey Turdy, how you doing? You know, darn. Choosing yourself though, that's good. Practicing self love. In this day and age, I really don't have the time

or space to choose anyone but me. But in choosing yourself, you're choosing your unborn child, which is so beautiful. Oh, and also in choosing myself, I'm choosing others. Cause like if I'm stable, a lot of other people are gonna be okay. I know. And if I'm not stable, like just I worry.

Oh, you know, Ben and I discovered something really funny last night. You know how we're always talking about Ben's feet? Sure. In what sense? In the sense that like they don't see each other. Like they're always going in opposite. We also talk about his toenails, so no, that's not what I was thinking.

Oh, and we also talk about the pace in which his feet move, which is very slow. So the pigeon-like nature of his feet. Yeah, it's not pigeon, actually, it's duck. It's anti-pigeon. Yeah, it's duck, it's the other way. Duck. So basically his toes, one's a conservative

and one's a liberal, they never see eye to eye on anything. And we discovered that Ben actually, and I'm surprised that, you know, cause his mom is very into, like very into, she always tells me like when they were growing up, they did like so many activities. She's very into like, you know, keeping the kids stimulated. I'm surprised she never threw him in a ballet class

because it turns out Ben, he's always in first position. He has incredible what they call turnout, which is your ability to turn out your feet. He was born in fifth position. So we last night went through all the positions that you can do in ballet. Let me tell you, Ben didn't even flinch.

He executed them all flawlessly and even like trained dancers. Like you have to train your feet to turn out, like to have this natural inclination, to be able to like, Ben can make his feet like into an equal sign. It's like you have to train your feet to turn out, like to have this natural inclination, to be able to like, Ben can make his feet like into an equal sign, like. Yeah. And he doesn't, it doesn't hurt.

He's not even trying. I fear he really missed out on a career as ballerina. On his calling. Yeah. I understand he could have been the next Mikhail Baryshnikov. Alexander Batchevsky. Instead he's the next Alex Gornishchely.

Also good. Also good. That's how I feel about Dana being a gymnast. Because Dana is 4'8", which is like a great height to be a gymnast. You're compact, but she has incredibly long arms. Like, and so could you see her on the bars? I could.

So she missed her calling her and Ben can go live with their regrets. Yeah. Do you feel like you missed your calling in any particular skill or sport? No, I feel like I gave, I tried everything. Yeah. And my calling is to be a podcaster and a mom. Yes. Oh, that's beautiful. I'm holding space here to you, truth. My calling is totally to be a podcaster and a mom. Yes, that's beautiful.

I'm holding space here to choose. My calling is totally to be a podcaster. But I do wish I had applied myself a little bit more in like the theatrics department. I think I could have made something of myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could have. If I had like, you know, done show choir or like whatever, maybe joined an acapella group at NYU,

I think I could have a career both as a podcaster but also a pop star. Yeah, that's a bummer, sorry. I have no regrets. I'm happy with where life landed me. Yeah. And I think Ben is too. And I don't think he's lamenting over like a career loss

as a ballerina. I don't know if like that was his dream, but he has a natural inclination for it. Yeah, he definitely does. I'll send you a video. You will die at his feet. Like, I'm like getting to- I know them. I could see it. Nothing, he definitely does. I'll send you a video. You will die at his feet. I'm getting to- I know them. I could see it.

Nothing you're saying is surprising me. No, it's like getting to third position. He was already in it, you know? Yeah. Flawlessly. It was so funny. That's hysterical. I'm also just experiencing this terrible phenomenon

where I have to pee so bad. I have to pee so bad, I have to pee so bad, I have to pee so bad, and I go and there's no pee. What is that? UTI. No, really? Well that is like- Is that just like pregnancy stuff? That's literally exactly how someone would describe a UTI.

But- Someone who's not pregnant. Both people. Like you could have a UTI, but also it could be like your baby's pushing down on your bladder making you feel like you have to pee but also it could be like your baby's pushing down on your bladder making you feel like you have to pee, but it's phantom because there's nothing in there. Should we tell everyone?

Tell them what? What we did yesterday on FaceTime. Tell them what, tell them what? I mean, it's your story to share. I called Jackie. Wow. From the toilet. Which isn't new.

No one can ever say that she holds back on the show. Well, I called Jackie because I had a question for my doctor. But I think that like at first I was being like a little dramatic. So I was like, I'm not going to call Dr. Fox and we call Jackie. And I you guys know my obsession with catching my mucus plug. Like I have only recently learned about the mucus plug and ever since I found out about it,

I just think it's so interesting. And for those who maybe don't know, Jackie, you told me about this. Your mucus plug is like kind of this clump of mucus that falls out of your uterus when you're like due to give birth. Like they say it could be like an indicator of like a week. Before you do.

That's what it was for me the first time. It's just sort of like, hey, how y'all doing? We're coming. No, it's still really early for me the first time. It's just sort of like, hey, how y'all doing? We're coming. No, it's still really early for me to have lost my mucus plug, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Yeah.

And I don't know, I was just like looking at my undies being like. It's giving mucus. Mucus. Yeah, but it was a false alarm. Yeah, so I did show, just to be clear, because you know Jackie's exqueamish like that, she did let me show her my underwear,

which was really nice. And she was really cool about it, and she assured me that it's probably nothing, but just to text Dr. Fox, Dr. Fox said, it doesn't look to be terribly alarming. Yeah, but I do, and I know it's a common thing where you take pictures of your bodily fluids during pregnancy and share them with your healthcare

provider, it's really not something, through the portal, right, it's really not something where you take pictures of your bodily fluids during pregnancy and share them with your healthcare provider. It's really not something. Through the portal. Through the portal, right. It's really not something I'm ever gonna be okay with. There's so many things, I've gotten used to people sticking their hands up by a vagina, a probe. The sending pictures of my knickers,

like it's not gonna ever be normal to me, sorry. That's so crazy because- I even thought we were taking the picture. You are so open, so it's funny that that's where you would draw the line, but I will say, I think if you were ever really concerned about something, like what you saw yesterday wasn't alarming. If you were alarmed, you would send that picture off

in two seconds. In a negative way, you're right, you're right. You know I low-key wished it was my mucous plug. Because I'm just waiting for the day that, just know when I lose my mucous plug, you guys will be the first to know. She'll be bringing it in the Ziploc onto the show. Oh wait, that's why the frames are empty.

They're waiting for my mucus plug to be smeared on the wall. Yeah, but you might not lose it in a part of your way. I think with my second, I didn't, it was still in there when I went into labor in Dr. Fox. Yeah, some people don't lose it. But maybe you could have given it to me. Some people don't lose it. And some people don't even realize that they lost it.

Like, what if I pee in the middle of the night? Like it's dark. I'm not looking at the toilet bowl. Yeah. I'm just on high alert. I know. I really want that for you. Me too. Like I just think it'd be a really beautiful

full circle moment. We have to listen. I think it's on the Patreon, Jackie's first birth story, where she mentions, she just low key casually name drops the mucus plug, like as if I know what that is. And my reaction, like that was a pivotal moment for me as a woman.

I think that was one of the things that made me want to get pregnant. Yeah, but I just want to say, I didn't know what a mucus plug was either, but you know what you read about it on the bump app, they're like, you know, it could happen. I didn't know what it was, and when it happened, I knew what it was.

There was no confusing it. Okay, that's good. That's good. To the fact that I had doubts, like. Yeah, you won't have a doubt. Okay, it's too early. When you know, you know. That's so beautiful.

So I don't know if there's like a Vegas odds on when my mucus plug is gonna fall out, but it's as far as I know, it's still inside. Okay, but hedge your bets you guys. Yeah. It's anyone's game. I can't wait. I'm just as excited for the mucus plugs arrival

as I am for the babies. Hopefully you get a little distance between the two so you could focus on your mucus plug. Of course, I don't want the plug to look overlooked. Yeah. We also need a name forcus plug can see it. Give attention. I don't want the plug to look overlooked. We also need a name for the plug, like Pluggy-O? No, that would be my plug. So yours would be like-

Pluggy-Loo? Yours would be Ploagers. Ploagers or Pluggy-Loo. I like Ploagers. I think it embodies the plug. Ploagers sounds like something you read on Urban Dictionary, like a Blumpkin or something, like a Plodgers. That's what a mucus plug is,

something from Urban Dictionary. So true. You have a Plodgers. Can I tell you that today we have Deer Toasters? We actually have an update from somebody who wrote in somewhat recently, and it's like, people always say we're being dramatic, right? For once we weren't.

Let me tell you, every time you say we have Deer Toasters, or that we have an update, like my stomach drops. No, I actually- How do we deal with this feeling? I get so worried. For the girl, the one girl. Of course for her, but just in general, it's just a worrisome thing. That's because I'm an empath.

Yeah, it's hard to do an invite segment on your podcast when you're a deep empath. Because I'm still holding onto like every dear toasters from the beginning of time. Yeah, of course they all take a little piece of your heart. And they all like make their way into my DNA. I don't know what it is about me also this year. Do you feel like always people are like talking

about the Sephora sale, like every time it happens every year and I kind of just like let it pass. Like I don't buy, like I don't go crazy. I have placed three orders and I actually I'm gonna go into the store today. I think it's because I feel so ugly that like I think makeup's gonna help.

And it actually is helping. Like I've been replenishing all my makeup, trying new things and it does make me feel better. Like the things that I can control. But I can't remember a year where I've ever, maybe sometimes I'll like place one order but people are always like, what'd you get at the Sephora sale?

I'm like nothing. This year I have, you can, get at the Sephora sale? I'm like, nothing. This year I have, you can, I have the Sephora app on my phone. Like I'm being really crazy. That's so crazy. No one is talking about the Sephora sale more than you. I know and it's amazing. You're bringing it to the fore.

I will say it did come at a really good time because I'm low on every, like I've been meaning to place an order at Sephora and I'm like, oh, it's a Sephora sale. So I did my restock of the things that I use. But I also plan on going to the store because I really wanna try House Labs Foundation and I tried to order it online,

but like they literally have a shade that's like pink. Yeah, you need to go and get matched. Yeah, well, yeah, I just need to, I'll probably get like two colors. People say that like it would be a really great weekend foundation for me. And that's what I'm in the market for. No, but also like restocking your makeup is so expensive.

Like it really adds up. Everything is, literally every good piece of makeup is $40. Like it's really crazy. So 20%, I think I'm gonna have to place another order. I always spend $120 at Sephora. Like no matter what I buy. Oh, that's like your number. It's always $120.

Okay, I feel like it could be worse. Yeah, well, unless I'm doing like- Oh my God, you guys, Jackie has started sending me like cheap skate hack videos. Like so dramatic. Like she sent me this video, I'm like, why are you sending me this? It's like, cause she's cheap.

You're like, yeah, maybe you could do it. Literally this girl squeezing every last drop of product out of her toothbrush. She uses this like metal product. It looks like what they put in your vagina for a pap smear. squeezing every last drop of product out of her toothbrush. She uses this metal product. It looks like what they put in your vagina for a pap smear. Yeah, it's like a clamp where you twist every little piece of toothpaste.

You put your toothpaste in the bottle and it moves everything down to the bottom so you don't miss a drop. It's actually meant for paint. I'm gonna get it for you. Jackie was like, you should try this. Like bitch, please. I am not that cheap.

You've always been like very economical in a very, Yes. In a good way, in like, you know, admirable head, good head on her shoulders, but you have recently veered. I think it's like, you're so scared of all of the The financial burdens coming my way. Yeah, that you've really like tightened the purse strings. Really?

But I just went to the Prada outlet and I spent so much money. Are you, you saw? I saw. I did. Like I crushed it at the Prada outlet. Yeah, that's good. You guys, I got a pair of shoes and three bags.

You didn't even tell me what bags you got. You were being so weird. It was one for me. You were not being helpful on the phone. That's why I was like sending everybody pictures and you were chiming in so late and be like, what about that one in the back? I'm like, girl, we've moved on.

I wasn't helping my phone. And by the way, the product outlet was seriously like, fucking, you had to be so crazy. The sales lady was like, do not, do not leave this, like you have to hold this bag, someone will take it. There's only like one of each. And then I gave it to Ben. All of a sudden I see this male salesman

walking around with my bag. A male salesman? I said, excuse me, get back here. That's my bag. I said, excuse me, get back here. That's my bag. Ben set it down. Ben had given it to my saleswoman to take to the front desk and she gave it to this man. She brought in-

It was still yours. It was still mine, but you had to really act quickly and swiftly. There was a line to get in the store. It was really kind of all the other cheapskates showing up. So you were like dilly dallying answering me like 20 minutes later about a bag. Was it when it was like Sunday?

Yeah. Which is the worst day to go. Morning? I was at the Prada store probably about one o'clock. Oh, we might've been napping. So like I said, and I was like, I was asking you if you wanted a bag, like it was seriously.

Yeah. And it was kind of. yeah, and you didn't answer. So I actually planned on going back to the Prada outlet. It was really a fabulous outlet. I think I might go to the outlet too. The Prada outlet now. Is there a Prada outlet by you? At this outlet center that I went to, the Woodbury Commons, there was a Le Creuset as well.

Well, there's a Le Cre Cruze outlet near me as well. And I've been itching to get back. I only knew to look. I only knew to look because you had such a fabulous experience. Did you get anything? No, it was, let me tell you. So the outlet mall is huge.

Like where you park and good luck finding a spot like is where you have to be. So we parked like in the luxury section because I wanted to go to Prada and then went on to go to Theory. So we walked around a bunch, let's say was actually five miles away. On our way out, we drove past it,

we couldn't find a parking spot and we just left. Like I just, I did not, oh, going to the outlets as a pregnant person, I needed like an ADA. You know what, actually I've had a thought, maybe people are gonna call me ableist for this. I think that pregnant women should get, starting at the fifth month, a handicap placard.

I agree, or just like a pregnant parking spot. Yeah, something. And also for mothers with small children, they should get like parking at the front. They shouldn't be in the back of the parking lot. I agree, like the parking situation was so crazy and there were so many empty. I've actually seen signs for family parking,

like in some of the bigger places like that. Oh really? Yeah, I forget where, but I would say it was like probably, I don't know if it was Target or Walmart, but like where they have huge parking lots and everybody gets a spot. And I've seen family parking, but like it should be at the grocery store.

It should be everywhere. I agree. It should be everywhere that like a handicap placard is. Yeah. Yeah. My father-in-law has a handicap placard and he like is so, he only recently got it. Let me tell you, changed his life and I'm jealous.

Yeah, but you don't take it. Oh, and then something, no, of course not, something so funny about my father-in-law, he loves these outlets that we go to. So on our way home, Ben calls him, just like bragged that he crushed it at Theory and he was so excited and Ben was telling his dad, oh, Claudia did so well at Prada,

she got great shoes and bags. And Bruce, Ben's dad was like, oh, that's great. Cause you know, you can wear that at any size. And I'm like, yeah, like exactly. You know, wait, so when he said it, I was not, I was not miffed. I'm like, no, exactly. Like Ben got a whole new wardrobe.

It's exciting to get that. And I can't, like, I wasn't going to buy any clothes at the outlets. Like I'm not buying for this size. You weren't going to buy a Prada dress at age of pregnant? No, no. So I was like, yes, Bruce, exactly.

Thank you. He was like, I'm happy for you. Like that you were able to get stuff. I'm like, thank you. And then we like kept talking. And then he said it again. He was like, and that's so great. Thank you. He was like, I'm happy for you. Like that you were able to get stuff. I'm like, thank you. And then we like kept talking and then he said it again. He was like, and that's so great. Cause you know, you can wear these bags and shoes at any size.

And I was like, say it again, Bruce, say it again. And again, he didn't mean it maliciously, but I was cracking up so hard. I'm like, you, like, I liked that he saw me the first time. The second time it felt a little redundant. I understand. Yeah. But it is nice that I can wear them in any size. It is.

Still you didn't send me your three bags that you got. Okay, do you want me to send them to you right now? Yeah, I'd like to see. Even though like if you read the chat, I did show everyone the wind up. And what's going on with the birthday bag that I got you? Remember from last year? Yeah, that's still my bag.

What do you mean? So you can go wear it this summer? Yeah, of course. You want to give it to me? You can go wear it this summer? Yeah, of course. You want to give it to me? You're more than welcome to borrow it. I need a bag like that for summer, like a raffia tote. Okay, I'm sending you. Okay.

So. Oh, parchi mu mu. Yeah, I got that one. Okay, very cool. And then in the second picture, I got the two bags in the front. You guys, they were half off. Blue and white and tan. Yep. Love. And You guys, they were half off. Blue and white and tan.

Yep. Love. And then these, they were inspired by you. I was surprised you didn't answer me. Jackie has this fab pair of Miu Miu heels. Oh, I love them. That are so comfortable. They're like great basics. I've worn them once.

I have them in three colors. I wear them in every time I go out. And every time I wear them, I'm like, oh, I need to buy them because they're so comfortable. They're so classic. And I don't really like, I find heels really uncomfortable. because they're so comfortable, they're so classic, and I don't really like, I find heels really uncomfortable. And they're so expensive.

But like, you know, it's worth the investment, but you know, me and my cheapie, so they had them at the outlets, and they had them in two colors, but one wasn't my size, I would have gotten them in both. We should go to the outlets together, because that would be fun. It's like a blend of the things that we love.

Yes, designer and deals. Yeah, that's so us, designer deals. So I'm happy for you. So all's left to say, I'm not that cheap. I bought three Prada bags on Sunday, okay? Yes, they were 50% off and fell off the back of a truck, but still. They said Prada.

But I did just get my $4.95 breast pump in the mail. Insurance. Insurance covered, and I got 1000 milk bags, God willing. I breast pump in the mail. Insurance. Insurance covered and I got 1000 milk bags, God willing I should need all of them. What breast pump did you get? The Spectra, blue. What color? Blue, well I called Shannon yesterday,

did you see Shannon's stories? No, I didn't catch up, what's the latest? I'm still finding out if James passed his driver's test, which he did. He did. Of course he did, he can drive, he just couldn't get here. So Shannon was like, you know, I know we all clown on like health insurance and how it's like the worst thing ever,

but it is like amazing that you got a free breast prompt. And hers had just arrived. And I was like, oh my God, same mine just arrived. Like, this is so exciting. And then she was unboxing it and she got the pink spectra. Uh oh, she'll be. And I said, I called her, I said, Shannon. You gotta go blue.

You gotta go blue. Everybody knows Jackie told me that, but then everybody echo, I said, Shannon, you gotta go blue. You gotta go blue, everybody knows. Jackie told me that, but then everybody echoed like blue, blue, blue. And she was like, wait, what? Taylor told me pink. And I was like, really? And like Taylor's a trusted source. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Taylor's like her mom best friend who has like a thousand kids. And so I was like, maybe she got confused. So then Taylor and Shannon spoke and she actually, she had a really good explanation. She's like, no, I said what I said. As like your main pump, it being plugged into a wall, which is what the pink one requires,

it's much more powerful. Your portable pump can be whatever, but like if this is gonna be your main one, like yeah, get the one that plugs into a wall. Where are you going? So pink is more powerful than blue? That's what Taylor said. Wow, that kind of-

So did you lead me astray? Turns this whole, well, I'll just say Chantel never said that. I don't want to, you know, I don't want to Pit mama against mama Doubt Taylor's lived experience. Of course.

I actually feel like you do want to doubt Taylor's lived experience. No, I don't. I respect Taylor. I respect her. But I just hadn't heard that before. Yeah. So lots going on in,

and it was only $4.95. And Shannon, when she did the spectra, she was like, oh, the blue one was $4.95 with insurance and the pink one was free. I'm like, yeah, I can't give it away fast enough. Just, I feel like that tells you what you need to know. Correct, but you only get one free one with insurance. Like, you can't get multiples.

Per child, yeah. You only need one. Yeah, but if you want it to switch, I'm saying. Oh, you can't get multiples. Per child? Per child, yeah. You only need one. Yeah, but if you wanted to switch, I'm saying. Oh, you can't send it back? I don't know. Shannon's like, I'll have to call my insurance company, all the paperwork, it's not worth it. It's fine, she'll just need an extension cord.

Don't we all need an extension cord? Yeah. You've actually reached like peak living when you have multiple extension cords. I'm in a bad place with my outlets in my room right now. I only have one that I can get to. But you own your home, what's stopping you from calling an electrician and putting in an outlet?

Nothing. I rent an apartment where the outlets are, they are. It's done. There's nothing I can do about it. But that's your fucking home, bitch, you built it. Put an outlet literally on your bed. Like. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe I will. My outlet in my bedroom, like the one that's like my main hub for my heating pad and my phone charger, my hatch, it's in the worst fucking spot. Like I've actually thrown my back out trying to plug my phone in.

Yeah. I, my, my bedside outlet is in a good spot. I just need more outlet. Oh, well you gotta go on Amazon and get that thing. It's like it plugs into both outlets and it gives you six, that's what I have. I'll send you an affiliate link. Send me the link, get the commission.

I'm always sending my friends and family affiliate links. Of course we are. I hope everyone is who signed up for these programs. 1000%. Well, we do have stories today. Tell me a little bit about them. I would say they're varied. I would say they're good.

Oh, and it seems as though they're female focused. Oh my God. We are such female founders. Confessions. Confessions, of course. We're talking about confessions. Please, is that a, no. You're lying.

It's Lemonada Day. It's Lemonada Day. I just want to let you know, like I'm actually at my wit's end with Megan. We literally don't even talk about her. And seriously, she could like go to the moon and I wouldn't even mention it because I don't want to let you know, like I'm actually at my wit's end with Megan. We literally don't even talk about her. And seriously, she could like go to the moon and I wouldn't even mention it because I don't want to upset you.

I'm not saying with you, I'm saying like with people, like I've actually had enough of her. I've had enough of her. It's Megan overload. As well. And I mean, we'll talk about it, but just like the idea that she's a jam maker

and a podcaster and a cooking show host is insane. Like to do all three things in one month when she hasn't worked. One month. In 10 years is so crazy and just like a bad business strategy and we will get into it. Great. We shall get into it.

But we have, of course it's Lemonada day. The window is open so is that door. I know. Unfortunately it's Lemonada day. We've been waiting for this day for so long. I had to cross it off my list. We have ceremonies to do. I guess, I guess, yeah.

This is where I'm in a prison of my own making. Yeah, it's major podcasting news and it's Claudia was right news, which we'll get to after the break. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. Okay, I'm like, what's the spoiler? What was I writing about?

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Thank you, Coders Wojers. You're welcome. So our first story, the first episode of Meghan Markle's Lemonade podcast called Confessions of a Female Founder is here. And her first guest was Whitney Wolf, heard the founder of Bumble. And I do believe that Coach predicted that.

Really? When we were saying like the elk of guests that she would have. Yes, I remember who we were. I remember that we were guessing like female founders. Sarah Blakely would be a good guest. You said Whitney. Did I? I think you did. Take founders. We were gonna say Sarah Blakely would be a good guest. You said Whitney. Did I?

I think you did. Take the weight. If I had remembered that, I would have been more excited about this story. So assume that you did say that, cause I don't know why I would think that you did. I remember you said it and I was like, oh, that's such a good call.

It's really doesn't bode well for like Megan's show that I was able to guess her first guess. Like it's cause everything is so generic and corny. Like female founders, you know? Yeah, yeah. And she's like the classic female founder. Yeah, it's just is so generic and corny. Like female founders, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And she's like the classic female founder. Yeah. It's just so unoriginal and corny. Like the fact that I guessed it and I'm not even a particularly smart person, I can't even remember that I guessed it. I don't think it bodes well for the future of this show. Yeah. Well, they're having some girly chit-chat

talking about women in the workforce, working moms. Megan actually shared for the first time that she had postpartum preeclampsia, which Whitney had as well. She was saying it was so rare, it's so rare and it was so scary going through that after having children and like trying to be there for your kids

and or your baby. And it's unclear if it happened after Archie or Lilibet being a new mom and also having a serious health struggle. The interesting thing about podcasting is what we always say right like the cream rises you can't fake it and so with like the jam and we didn't even talk about last week the jam went on sale and sold out instantly and you know it looked to been really successful. Now we don't know if she made 100,000 jams or she made 10 jams and they all sold out. So a lot I think of being a celebrity and having brands

or an influencer even is like smoke and mirrors. You can pretend that you have all the influence in the world, but only you really know like what coin you're bringing home. With a podcast, it's really interesting to see who flies and who falls. And I will be very interested to see how this episode debuts, the charts don't lie.

I looked this morning, now it is really early. I didn't see it anywhere, but it did just drop. So I give it 24 hours. Yeah, give it 24 hours to see like where it lands. I will say the charts don't lie unless you're exclusive with one of the networks. And like, who knows? Because also it's all very concentrated.

But there is some vagueness in podcasting. Like we will never know how many people listen to her episode. Like it's not so out there. I do think- It's not YouTube. Like if you put up a YouTube video, the public can see exactly how many views it has.

There's no way to know how many downloads somebody's episode gets. So I do think you can still like feign success. Yes, yes, it's true. To a point, because eventually no one wants to pay for your ad spots or to pay you if you're not bringing in money. Now, speaking of her ad spots,

Liz Woods did point out, because I was curious about this as well, part of being a podcaster, you guys just heard me do three ads, like you read ads. And I actually, I meant to tell you this. So on the good guys, they were talking about how Gavin Newsom just launched a podcast,

like how crazy that is. And Ben was like, well, he does ads? Like that's crazy, he's the governor. And I actually went to listen to hear the ads and they're prerecorded commercials by someone else. It's not Gavin's voice. It's like a commercial, a real commercial. And it's an iHeartRadio podcast,

so it sounds like a radio commercial that you hear in the car. And so Megan's is the same as Gavin Newsom's, where it's not Megan reading, even though she had premium sponsors of this episode, like Discover Credit Card, it was not in Megan's self-voice. I don't like that. I know, I know part of being a podcaster

so you gotta get in there. You gotta get down in the mud. We wanna hear your take on the ads. Tell us how you use code dirt in everyday life. Oh my God. Speaking of women in podcasting, I have to say something. I, I'm actually really worried about Kylie Kelsey. So I don't listen to a lot of podcasts,

but I don't listen to any podcasts, honestly. But hers comes across my desk all the time because she's always talking about mom stuff and she has different celebs on. And I guess her thing is she tells it straight, right? Not gonna lie is the name of her show, so she won't lie. And so she is always responding to people who say ludicrous things about motherhood.

And I just genuinely wanna know like who the hell she hangs out with because who the fuck is saying this shit to you? Like I saw a clip and it was like, C-sections aren't real births. And people say that to her, I guess she's had a couple of C-sections. Like who the fuck says that?

Like that's insane. And nobody I know would ever say that. And I feel like, yes, it's like produced content for a podcast, but like it makes it seem like literally she knows the worst people because it's like, oh, people will say to me, who? Maybe she's talking about like social media. Maybe like trolls, like maybe they're like searching

in the gutter for the worst things that people say or just like bad tropes. You know, I've heard people, I've not heard anyone that I know say that, but I am aware that that is a narrative out there that's like, C-sections aren't real births, but like no respectable person says that with their whole chest. Correct.

So yeah, she's responding to like these gutter trolls. Yeah, so, but the way she says it conversationally sounds like somebody, you know, Like her friend went to coffee. PTA, they said. Yeah, and I'm always like, girl, you need new friends. Like you need a new social circle. But maybe she is just like responding to general,

like things, not like specific instances. I think it's more so like stereotypes and just the nasty things that people say. And she's clapping back. Cause it really made me worried for like who she hangs out with. Oh, okay. No, I feel like, I think it's probably

a little more produced than that, I hope. Okay, I hope so. Yeah. Well, I welcome Megan, of course, as a female founder myself and a female podcaster. Good luck. Yeah, a woman in podcasting. Good luck.

Like, I don't, like I don't care, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I should like,, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I should like, just like I would watch, you know, as ever TV, I should like listen to this even this morning I put on Rascal Flatts instead of like listening to see what's up. I have no- Cause you chose yourself.

I have no desire to listen to this. Zero. Not even for R and D purposes or like for the T, like, not even like to hate listen. I have no desire. No, she's taking it really seriously from like a business perspective. And that to me is just uninteresting.

Like, I don't know who the next guest is gonna be. And there are women, especially that I'm sure she knows, who are really entertaining, but also have amazing businesses. Like she should have Reese Witherspoon on, you know? Not that there's anything wrong with Whitney Wolfhard. She's like built an amazing billion dollar business, but like from an entertainment perspective, it's not an entertainment show, it's a business show,

and for that I'm just like bored. I don't think it's fair to say that we're bored because we didn't listen. Because we didn't listen. But bored by the concept. Yeah, and I know that they're not in a studio together, both looking pargy, wearing like Laura Piana sweaters, because I know it's done remotely

and she's in her living room and it's audio only. So like, seriously, I'm out. Is there anyone she could have on that you would- Gwyneth. You would tune in? Thousand percent. Okay. So there it is. Gwyneth.

I feel like she will have her on, maybe not this season- Me too. Because the season's probably wrapped and they just became friendly, maybe next season. I know we already had this conversation, but my money is more on Meghan going on the Goop podcast to promote her own new podcast. And like Gwyneth wouldn't go on this unknown show.

Pod swap. That's what we call it around these parts. Yeah. We need a pod swap. Maybe it'll be two for two with pod predictions. I think so. I can't believe I said Whitney. Like somebody find the clip for me, please.

Like, I don't believe it. I'm literally so smart. Let me know if you guys remember what I'm remembering. By the way, I remember the exact conversation and I remember making a prediction that you thought was good because I remember feeling good about myself. And then I remember like you couldn't think of one of my,

oh, she's so dumb, I'm so smart. Wait, no, no, no, no, mine was Sarah Blakely, like from the get. No, like you couldn't think of one, I remember. Oh, okay, so now, okay, I see. Yeah, and like you were dumb and I was smart. Remember that part? I paid you the highest of compliments saying

you have to bring me down. It's not enough for me to prop you up. Yeah, and like you were dumb and I was smart. Remember that part? Yeah. I paid you the highest of compliments saying you have to bring me down. It's not enough for me to prop you up. Yeah, it's not. You also have to stomp on me below you. Correct. So I remember that feeling. I just don't remember exactly whom I predicted.

Got it. Well, then I don't think of the Bumble founder a lot. So like, I'm surprised she was in my brain. No, I don't think of her a lot either, even though she's so ubiquitous and she's a classic girly. Female founder. Yeah. Yeah.

So check it out. Check it out. And if you do listen, like let us know your thoughts. As toasters who obviously have a high bar for content. Correct. I trust the toaster's opinion on it. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story?

Mm-hmm. Oh, I'm gonna move some things around. I don't think you're ready for the next one. This next one was a 30 cent to me, but I had seen it and I too was interested. Shout out to Lids Woods for posting the premium content because Francesca Farago is claiming that influencers have been offered money to promote

negative Hailey Bieber narratives on TikTok. So Francesca Fargo took to Snapchat to walk up her stairs and wash her face and casually like drop this bomb. Yeah, she was doing skincare. Yeah, but like she was, it was such an afterthought. Like she's literally, I know she's also a new mom. She's like huffing and puffing up the stairs.

To twins. To twins, like she's pumping, breastfeeding and just decides to share that apparently influencers are being paid to hop on this TikTok trend smearing- She got an offer herself. Kaley Bieber. So she had said like in the past, people like herself get offered, get paid to do trends,

whether it's dances or use certain songs or certain audio. Use music, right. And I could see that. Like we would, I don't think we would do this, but then I started thinking like maybe we should pay influencers to use some of our sounds from our show. My God, that's money I'll spend. Right, that would, but they do it anyway, you know.

Yeah, not enough, but yeah. We are a delight. What is it? The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. Anyway. Yeah, we're viral. So it'd be akin to that, like us paying people, but it's, I don't know who they pay people

to use their music, so maybe it's labels, maybe it's artists. She said she got an offer. It's a bunch, I've been offered to like use someone's song. Like it's a bunch of- Name them. Nobody you heard of, right? It's a bunch of people who do it, like music labels, management companies.

But then I feel like after the Justin Baldoni article, and like we were all introduced to the concept of like astroturfing. Um, you'd always felt like certain things were getting like unfair treatment on social media and you were like, who's behind this? And it like, if you feel like a conspiracy theorist and that's why that Blake Lively, like her initial complaint with all the screenshots like actually was so for me at least like eye opening because he actually sent a Hailey Bieber tweet. Yeah.

Remember he was like, we need this for Blake. And it was like 10 times Hailey Bieber has been a woman hating mean girl. But I saw it more as like bots and bot farms and like a company creating a bunch of accounts, making viral tweets and then having having thousands of accounts like that. And not paying real people, real influential people to say stuff that they don't even know to be true.

That's new. Maybe this is just like the next step in AstroTurfing. This was surprising to me. She did not name anyone specifically, but implied that certain trends in popular sounds on platforms like TikTok may be part of a larger smear campaign. So she said she got an offer to do this Halle Bieber trend that's going around.

It's like, he thinks I, we just met, but turns out I was stalking him. And it's like a picture of Halle Bieber, because that's the narrative about her right now. Oh, you know what? I've seen that. Okay, so now influencers are being paid. It's that picture of her holding like J-14 magazine when she's actually 11 being like, I love Justin Bieber.

Oh my. So yeah, she didn't do it. She thought it was like nasty and she's letting everyone know, thanks. Yeah, thanks. Because I feel like if you're a rational media literate person and you watch what goes on on social media around certain people, Hailey Bieber being one of them,

you feel like it's an abnormal reaction. There's so much being said and it's all so nasty. And you're like, you don't wanna sound like a crazy person, but you're like, this feels coordinated. So something like this like does give Validia, also like the Justin Baldoni introduction to AstroTurfing and that company in Dallas that like does this for a living. You're like, oh, no, these things do exist.

Right, but then who's paying for this? Well, yes. So a lot of the initial, you know, I mean, I saw it and I'm like, oh, it's Selena, right? Like, and I think that's the natural, everybody, even because even the Selena fans are now hating on Francesca sending her so much hate and death threats. She never said it.

So it's like you're self identifying. Like, so I mean, who else? For real, who hates Hailey Bieber? Even though Selena Gomez doesn't hate Hailey Bieber as far as we know, right? Like they were photographed together at LACMA. Claudia, you have to let that go. I can't.

It was three years ago and it means nothing. Like so much has happened since then. Yeah. It's a hatred between the two of us. But I just refuse to believe, it feels like Selena Gomez is like the happiest she's ever been. Like maybe there was a time where I could see

Selena Gomez being so miserable that like, yeah, I'm a billionaire, let's spend some coin ruining Hailey's life. But now she feels like she's in the best place she's been in, in like actually 10 years. Yeah, also, I don't know if this is like an organic movement or I've been astroturf successfully, but I've been getting served all these clips of Benny Blanco.

Yeah, he's having a moment. Various podcasts talking about his music. What a cogent, intellectual, insightful man. Like, I feel like, you know, Nikki Glaser made that joke at the Golden Globes, like he's just lucky to be with Selena. Like he is such a catch. He is such a good guy.

He says really wonderful things about her, but also he's such a great music creator. He's been like showing how he's made certain songs. Even like he did one of the Kesha songs. He showed how he made the bridge. He had like no more money or time left. And so he used like DJ turn it up, bup, bup, bup.

He had said that once the beginning of the song. So like he made that the turn it up, bup, bup, bup. He had said that once at the beginning of the song. So like he made that the bridge and he's like showing how he writes all these songs. He's a very smart person and I'm really impressed by him. Yeah, I actually think that like the Benny Blanco turnaround, cause at first like they started dating, everybody's like, ew, right? And then they started doing a lot of press together.

And I think a lot of it had to do with their interview on Jay Shetty, where they talked a lot about their relationship. And he's like, he's extremely emotionally intelligent. And it's like, you know, internet talk. It's like, guys, get you a guy who will do. And it's like, that's literally Betty Blanco. And you're all clowning on him. What? Cause he's short and has curly hair.

Like he's actually a very good partner. And like, he really is going gonna be like an amazing husband. And so I think a lot of people, I don't think it was astroturfing. I actually think it was, because I watched it slowly unfold, extremely organic. People being like, wait, we're clowning on him because he like took that picture with Selena's feet and he has like a gap in his tooth. But like, wait, he is so respectful. He's like saying all the things you bitches are always saying you want your

boyfriends to say. And he's there. He's very smart and he's very well spoken. He says interesting stuff. I'm very impressed by him. Just wanted to make note of that. Right, so why would Selena now be like going on another AstroTurfing campaign

when she really seems to be, I think for the first time in a really long time, like genuinely happy, personally, professionally, like she's crushing it in all corners of her life. Yeah. I don't of her life. Yeah, I Don't see her being behind this but if not her who because it's definitely you're right like, okay So it's a coordinated thing. There's an agency paying people on behalf of who was paying the agency. Yeah, that's my question Yeah

Also, I forgot to check off on my on my notepad Lemonade it's a big day. I brought it out. I brought out the list. So the only thing that we're still waiting for in our countdown list is keeping up with sports. And I do think we'll be waiting quite a while.

We should have them on this show. I would absolutely love it. And I think we could. Even though I think that part of the reasons by keeping up with sports is not here, nor will it ever be, is like, I don't think that they worked well together and I don't think they would agree

to do an interview together. Maybe we could have them on separately and they could each tell their side of what happened. Yes. Oh, I love that. Like sort of a group therapy. Love that. Are you ready for our next story?

Yeah. White Lotus still making news after the premiere. And now we are learning that a scrapped sex scene between two unlikely characters in the season three finale was cut. So apparently the White Lotus scrapped an unexpected sex scene between Piper and Zion. Yes, Belinda's son apparently took Piper's virginity.

Yeah, the show's creator, Mike White, revealed that they were supposed to hook up, even though viewers never saw them cross paths at the resort. He said, the part that was cut, which is very disappointing, is that she decides to lose her virginity in the script in the last episode, and she actually has sex with Zion, which is Belinda's son.

I mean, I guess it's in the very last episode, so she's already back from her monk trip, and she knows she's not gonna move to Thailand. So I understand why if they needed to cut stuff, like what this didn't serve any purpose, it would just be like for fun. Yeah, I think people actually would have really loved it. He said, I was trying to do too much narratively,

which I can understand why he felt that way. But when you watch the whole show, it's like there actually kind of wasn't enough narratively. Yeah, and he addressed that in the podcast too. Yeah, he said something like, edging you guys to get out of my bed if you don't like it. Yeah. He was basically like,

I've seen the backlash saying like, nothing happened in this show. And he's like, this is not the type of show. It's a world building show. You're just like getting to know people for one week. All roads are not supposed to connect back to the murder. Like it's not that type of show. It's not murder on the orient.

Like it's just a show and this, if you don't like it, screw him. Yeah. Well, he said a little harsher than that. And he made it very sexual, which I guess he did. And so I chose to paraphrase. No, he said like, this is my bed. Don't sleep with me. Get out of my bed. I'm edging you. You like edging? You don't like edging? Leave. Maybe he saw the toast podcast talking about edging and he was inspired.

I think fans would have went wild for this. I just want to say, I might've been am miss to cut it. Like people like him a lot. This is the second thing I heard was cut. And then the one about Lori's daughter was cut. Yes, Carrie Coon had a trans daughter and they like talked about it. And that whole scene was cut.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I guess it was more so to serve that conversation about like all their different lifestyles. Like Leslie Bibb who goes to church and voted for Trump and the other two who didn't. So I guess it was like so to serve that conversation about like all their different lifestyles, like Leslie Bibb who goes to church and voted for Trump and the other two who didn't. So I guess it was like meant to be political. I don't think either of those two,

like really either of those missing scenes, and that's the whole point of deleted scenes, right? They can be deleted. They don't impact the plot at all. I am fine with not seeing. I found Belinda's son to be annoying. Like I had had enough of him, you know? Yeah, he was crazy.

He was crazy and he was like barely in the show. I just found his energy like so overwhelming. Do you think he got the same 40,000? It's an amazing question. Actually, he's not in every episode. So he's in the first and the last, maybe the last two. So maybe he made 120 grand. Whereas everybody else, except for Sam Rockwell,

he probably got paid the same as Sam Rockwell. Everybody else is in every single episode. Yeah, true that. Are you ready for our next story, number four? Our fourth story that you sent me from an interesting website. You guys, this is taking- Whereisthebuzz.com.

Yeah, sorry, there wasn't like a lot of widespread media coverage because it's like pretty much an internet thing, but it's also a very New York thing. If you want to know what's going down in New York, like something's going down. The New York Knicks took down the Phoenix Suns 112 to 98 on Sunday night, but the real fireworks came from OG Annobe, who erupted for 32.6 rebounds and three assists, possibly powered by Olympic gold medalist Suni Lee's courtside presence. Yes, so Suni Lee went courtside to the Knicks game

and she looked so unbelievably gorgeous. And there are a couple of videos of, what's his name? Sorry, Ben is obsessed with them, OG. Like walking past her and like doing like good basketball moves like right in front of her. And he had like a particularly good game and the Knicks aren't like amazing. They're not bad and he's a good player.

But this is sort of, you know, something had to be different, right? Why was this game different from all other games? SUNY. And people think that like, you know, there was a pretty girl in the front row, an Olympian, you know, and he kind of was showing off. Do you think she was a guest of his to begin with?

So the narrative online, which is completely made up, like everybody's just larping, is that they're totally not connected. And I think when like you come as a guest of a player, you get like much worse seats, they don't give you a court side. But when you're SUNY and like the Knicks invite you, you take a court side seat, you know?

I think she was there like for press. Yeah. So I think she could have still gotten seats if she was like his girlfriend. She could have gotten yes. But there's no there's no reason to believe that they're boyfriend and girlfriend. But the way he was like looking at her, it could have been like, that's my girl. No, and I absolutely love this for Sunni. I think that that's a great boyfriend for her. And we don't even talk about how you know know who's like a prominent New York Knicks wag right now? Who?

Jordan Woods. Carl Anthony Towns plays on the Knicks. And she like low key has been with him for a while and he's a really good basketball player. Oh, that's cool. Good for her. Yeah, like he's legit. She's not like married to like,

I'm not married, excuse me, they're dating, but like, you know, like a sad basketball player. I think some girls just want to date basketball players so they'll pick up anyone. Yeah. No, he's like, he's a real player. And if you make it to the NBA, you're probably good. You getting choked up?

It's emotional to think about all the players who aren't good enough. Yeah, no, but some girls just wanna say that they're dating an NBA player. So there's a scrub who still wears jeans to the game just because he's not gonna get played. And he makes $200,000 a year. You have a boyfriend in the NBA.

Yeah. But that's not what this is, so I just want it to be clear. Low he makes $200,000 a year. And like, you have a boyfriend in the NBA. Yeah. But that's not what this is. So I just want it to be clear. Like she, low key has like a boyfriend who's really good. I assume. Look at the vibe. She's always at like Sushi Park. Okay, she was there once, but yeah.

That we saw. Always there. Always. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? No, I am not. Is it our fifth and final story that's brought to you by Sax.com? It is. final story that's brought to you by Sax.com? It is.

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No, no, no. interest and intrigue. No, I'm like things I'm actually looking forward to most. Ready? Obviously mucus plug. No, one mucus plug, two baby. Two, yeah, meeting the child. Three, like the smells. Like I feel like I'm so excited to see

what my baby smells like. Like baby smell, newborn smell, not like. But it child. Three, like the smells. Like I feel like I'm so excited to see what my baby smells like. I'm just like- Like baby smell, newborn smell, not like- But it's my baby, you know? Like all babies smell good and your children have smelled amazing. Like seriously, some of the best smells of my life. And I can only imagine,

like this one's gonna be even better. It's mine. Yeah, I feel like when you're so close to it, you don't smell it as much. Like it's- No! Like it's like your house smells. Cause you're in it, you're in the bubble.

Yeah. Oh shit in the bubble. Yeah. Oh shit. Cause like, yeah. Now when I think about it, I feel like it wasn't every time I picked them up. But maybe you weren't taking the time to acknowledge the smell.

Maybe, maybe. Okay. Well, I'll let you know. I'll report back. And then third, kisses. Like no one can tell me like how many kisses. Much girl. Much girl nation. My kisses. Like they're all- Much gar-

Much gar- My kisses, yes. I love that for you. Our fifth and final story is actually a little bit of baby adjacent news because Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tardick continue to fight as she is slamming him for using her dream baby name for his new dog. Have you seen this?

I have. It is extremely awkward. So we actually talked about on Patreon last week, how she- Oh, that was Patreon. That was Patreon, how she has started to share some stuff about why they broke up. She talked about him getting into podcasting, how she felt like he was sort of riding her coattails,

mooching, he wasn't paying half the rent, whatever. Right, she would have to like beg him to pay bills, even though they were living in her house that she fully paid off. That she didn't even want him to move into. And now she is going on her podcast to talk about how he used her dream baby name for his new rescue dog.

She said, I'm making this clear. It's not that I'm not over him, but to get a dog and name that dog my dream baby name that I've had in my baby names for 10 years, I even have a text that says to him, I said the day I met him, quote, I want to name my baby Teddy. She doubled down that she's very much over him after breaking up with him in August 2023 after four years together.

She said, I did not want to be in that. It felt icky to me. I did not want to be in it. I know I seem very angry, but it's more like I don't like feeling disrespected. And I just have so many gross feelings from that because for so long I was made to feel crazy. And now I'm like, oh, I'm not crazy. I just saw what other people are seeing now. Are people like turning on Jason Tardick? I think that she's making a compelling case with everything she shares, right?

Like she's just, and she, I feel like she keeps maintaining like a level, even though she's like dragging him through the gutter, she keeps maintaining like a level of respect. Like even with the, we talked about this on the Patreon, so I won't repeat, but when she was saying that like he would never pay bills, she was like, I wasn't perfect either.

Like, yeah, I was crazy not letting him podcast because I had a podcast. So she keeps like owning her shit. So if you're gonna drag someone, like you have to be perfect, right? But she keeps owning her shit with every breath that she also drags him in, which I think is like making a compelling case.

And I think that, I mean, this is kind of crazy. So I just want, I want it to go to his Instagram because I think there's like making a compelling case. And I think that, I mean, this is kind of crazy. So I just want, I wanted to go to his Instagram because I think there's something- I just, for his side of things, like he got a new dog and then he said, my new buddy needs a new name. Yes, that's what I was just pulling up. He was asking people on March 4th on Instagram, like what should I name my new dog?

Polling people and then he wound up going, people had suggested Teddy, which is the name by the way. He named his dog Teddy and that's her baby name. And there was another name that people had suggested that it was like between the two and he went with Teddy, which is her dream baby name. And he knew that. Now, to me, the weirder thing about this is,

and I wanna know, like, I would like to hear from Sean Booth, okay? Because now there are three people who are like obsessed with golden retrievers and it all started with Sean Booth. Do you remember that? Like. So Tucker Doodle was Sean Booth's dog.

And then when him and Caitlin got engaged and moved in together, like it was their family dog. But when they broke up, like he was Sean's dog first. And people were like really following along the devastation of Caitlin losing Tucker. Now he wasn't wrong for taking Tucker, but it's just like a sad part of a breakup is- It's too sad.

And people were so sad for her. And then she got ramen noodle. Yes, she got a rescue golden retriever. And another one, Pino, Pino and Mar. Yeah. So she has two golden retrievers. Then Jason comes and she becomes like the Sean Booth. Jason comes to live with her the Sean Booth. Jason comes

to live with her. He falls in love with these two dogs who are not his. Ramin and Pino. Ramin and Pino. And then they break up and he's dealing with the fallout of losing. So he gets a doodle or whatever. What is it? A golden retriever. Yeah. It's a classic golden retriever. It's, it's the dog from Full House. And so to me, like that's the funny thing here. Like not the name. I can't get over like, what does Sean Booth think of all of this? Yeah. And then it's just a cycle that's going to keep repeating itself.

Yes. Jason's next girlfriend is going to fall in love with Teddy. And then she's going to be heartbroken. And she's going to get snickerdoodle. I don't know if Sean Booth cares about the dog, the canine aspect of things, but I wonder what he thinks about like this in-fighting. Cause it was crazy that after she moved on from Sean,

she started, she dated Jason for four years, which is a really long time and they were engaged. And that was like a really serious relationship. And the fact that it went south is really surprising. Cause when you're with someone for four years, which is a really long time and they were engaged. And that was like a really serious relationship. And the fact that it went south is really surprising because when you're with someone for four years, like you would get married. Cause like, if you hate them, like you'd hate them at two years too.

Correct. So I just wondered like what he thinks of the whole thing. But what I want to say- In terms of the name. I want to talk about the name, but I also want to say about like her sharing the details. I do agree with you that she is still being respectful because I feel like a lot of times people get out

of a breakup and the next day they just start a laundry list of everything this person said or did that like, we should never know. Like, yes, you tell us- Agreed. You tell us and it's not good, but like I would never want to date that person next and know that anything that I say,

like there's nothing private here. No, it is now common for you to be in a public relationship, break up and then within the next month, go on a podcast or your own podcast and share every dirty detail. Like, yes, even if somebody wasn't great to you in a relationship, barring, you know, like really bad things. Like relationships are two people being human

and you should be allowed to like keep that private. It's like an icky thing. I don't like it. And so she actually never really talked about him. He had a whole relationship since then with Kat. It's been a long time and I still feel like she is being respectful. It's been two years.

And even the things that she's not saying things that he said to her, like sharing quotes, like just generally speaking, he wanted this, I wanted that, I didn't like this. And I think that's just like a fair way to talk about a relationship at a glance. But now she's pissed. Now she's pissed.

Now with the name, I've seen like two schools of thought online, the first being like, oh, this is so disgusting of him. And two being like, I think like, you know, men, we're giving this man more credit, like that he was even listening, that he knew like your favorite baby name, you know? But she swears it's like a core part of their relationship.

It was like from the beginning of their time together, like it was a thing. So I think she told him what she wanted to name her baby the first day she met him. No, like girls are just like crazy. You know, I think he's the type of man who listens and remembers. I don't think that this is like a coincidence, but I could see for him being like, well, what does that have to do with me and my dog? Like, it's not like, you know what I mean? Right. Because then if Caitlin has a baby and she names it Teddy, they're like, it's weird. It's Jason's name. But I can see for Caitlin that it's like, you named your dog my baby name. Well, the fact that one's a human and one is a dog is obviously an issue as well

But I think it actually would have been worse if it was a baby because then like if Caitlin's baby and Jason's baby I have the same name like that. Yeah we're there but Teddy is also Theo So correct. I'm trouble laser Trouble laser. Yeah, it's it's definitely all right, Kaitlyn, now that you can't use the name, might I suggest Dora? Do Dadoo? Just an idea. Crunchy Angel?

What a weird saga. That was like a weird development that made me feel weird. Agreed. And I feel like this is not the end cause he has, when his next trading secrets come out, he's got some secrets to trade. Right, he hasn't responded. He hasn't responded, but maybe he won't,

because I think that then she'll respond and make him look even worse. And like, maybe this is as bad as it gets for him. And he could come back from this. He could take it, yeah. Yeah, it's nothing like really crazy. It's just, you know, breakup stuff. But I don't think he should respond.

No, me neither. Because she'll come out swinging. Well, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I select three submissions from swirlies who have written to us from around the globe about things going on in their lives. Today we have one update and two submissions.

If you ever want to write to us, it's DeerToasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down, there's a submission box. Both methods of communication are completely anonymous. Do not worry. Now which one do I want to read first? The update maybe, like you've teased us long enough.

Sure. So the original submission was like maybe two or three weeks ago about her husband who got a new secretary and she like calls him crying a lot and then they were in the car and she was like, are you alone? And he was like, no, and hung up, remember? Do you want me to read the full submission?

Or do you remember? I think so for other people, people might not be as plugged in as us. My husband recently got a new secretary. She always calls and texts him and cries to him every day about her marriage issues and that she might be getting a divorce. She barely shows up to work, but my husband has not fired her.

Last weekend we were away, she called to ask a work question. She was on speaker and at the end of the call she asked, are you alone? He quickly said no and hung up. When I asked him about it, he was like, oh, it's probably nothing, but I don't think it was nothing. Am I crazy? Is it something nefarious going on?

I wanna snoop, but like, I don't wanna snoop, but maybe I should. And we told her like this woman sounds crazy and I'm professional, but trust you're not. Like just keep an eye on her. Jezebel's must be washed. Hello, I'm the swirly who wrote in a few weeks ago about my husband's secretary calling him after hours

to complain about her divorce and asking if he was alone. After writing in, I decided to trust my gut and I went to surprise him at work last week for his birthday. His office is the last one in the hall. It's private. Nobody can enter from the main office unless they're buzzed in, but I have a key. To make a long story short, I walked in on them making out. I ran out. He ran after me, crying, pleading, saying he's sorry. It's not his his fault He's a sex addict and I need to give him a chance and he'll go for help I want to be there for him and help him. I just really can't move past this I'm currently at my sister's house just still in shock and unsure what to do Anyways, your podcast is the only thing that makes me smile daily. So thank you swirlies. Love you. Bye. Oh

My god, it's so crazy because when you read the submission, I'm like this could really be nothing like yes I mean like I know we dig into everything, but like it's probably nothing. Oh my God, do not go back to him. It doesn't sound like you have kids. So this sex addict is not your problem. And like anyone with- Agreed.

To not even be like, oh, I messed up. To make it out of sex addiction, like listen buddy. No, to like your first, you've just been caught. No, and- Your first thing is to come up with an excuse. No, no, no, but the excuse is worse than if you just made a mistake because I don't want to go on this journey through sex addiction with you. I don't, I don't want to worry about it for the rest of my life.

Like you literally just said, I have a chronic issue. I will never stop. Right. And the issue is fidelity. Like I'm out. No, no, no. Good day, sir. And she would have mentioned if she has kids, so. No, she doesn't.

Run for the hills. Agreed, and I think the lesson here is like, it's hard not to get carried away, but you really should trust your gut. But sometimes your gut is so crazy. No, and also like sometimes people are so normal that they don't do so. Like a crying secretary could be a crying secretary,

but your husband's like normal and it's just like this crazy secretary. And when you love your husband as you should, like you see them as in the best possible light. Yeah. I'm really sorry that that happened to you, but thankfully- I'm glad you found out. Me too, before it was like too late

and gets so complicated with kids. Like how much were they hooking up that you just walked in on one random afternoon and you caught it? Right, that's what's crazy. God was on your side. Yeah. Because they could have just also been working, you know?

They could, yeah, they could have been like just talking. They don't spend the whole workday making out. They could have been talking, she could have been crying and you could have been like still unclear. It would have been, it could have been something that was excused away. Yeah, but you have clarity. There's nothing better.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, hello, I'm in dire need of your help. Trudy, I know you can relate since this is your worst nightmare. My mother-in-law loves to give us gifts, AKA junk. For Easter, three weeks early, she gave us a bag of shit that weighs more than my one and a half year old.

Upon opening it, 95% of it was old and used. There was cat hair on it. I'm allergic and I hate cats. So I kindly asked if she wanted the bag and they used eggs back. She was mad and told me that I could throw it away. I explained how I don't love clutter and I hate cats. So I kindly asked if she wanted the bag and they used eggs back. She was mad and told me that I could throw it away. I explained how I don't love clutter and I feel guilty throwing things away.

Plus I'm a busy working mom, so a trip to the donations bin isn't an ideal thing. She was passive aggressive and now I don't know what to do. I can't handle more junk and shit in my house. Do I throw it away and try not to feel bad? Do I not accept the junk? Hell, okay, this is so a case to the sweeper. Only Claudia can answer this question.

I am someone who, like, if you bring something to my house, I don't even care if it's, like, plated in gold, it's going in the trash, like, I hate shit. And I agree, like, it feels so stupid and wasteful, and you just wanna tell the person bringing you the shit, like, stop, but we have to act right. And so I don't think you should say anything. I think the fact that you did say anything

is like kind of rude. This is your mother-in-law. So you need to make- Do you want your used eggs back? You need to make peace with throwing shit away. It's Marie Kondo. Is this Sparking Joy? No, you absolutely have to be okay

with throwing things away. Because if you're going to be as militaristic about junk as I am, you can't like tell every, sometimes people are just being nice. Like you can't tell them that it's ugly and gross and you don't want it, even though it's ugly and gross and you don't want it.

Just throw it away. You have to get comfortable feeling uncomfortable. And while it's admirable, you want to go to the donations bin. Please the people who are using that bin deserve better than your used eggs. Throw it away and keep your mouth shut and keep the peace. Yeah, but that's a real issue. I have it too.

And that's what I was just saying, like, please. And I think, I think my friends and family who listened to this podcast heard me. Like if you're coming over to my house, postpartum, don't bring anything. A cupcake, of course, is always welcome, but like don't bring crap. We wouldn't dream of it.

And don't bring it with like ribbons and cellophane. Like that's more trash for me. Joyless. Joyless, yes. Joyless. I want, yes. Joyless. I want to live in a joyless home. Wow. I so stand with this girl.

I know it's, and you work so hard to make your home party. And you, especially like, how hard do you work when you're having company over, right? Like your house is never cleaner than the second before company comes. Just for them to come with their ugly shit. Like, I hear you. It's disrespectful. Don't, if you're coming over for dinner, don't bring me a Like, I hear you. It's disrespectful.

If you're coming over for dinner, don't bring me a gift. I'm good. I won't. Okay, this one's like kind of crazy, okay? Hi ladies. I'm feeling like such a brat, but give it to me straight. Am I? My husband and I have worked really hard

to make a good living and provide for our family financially in a way that we've always wanted to. And recently, our success has afforded us the ability to join a private club that we are absolutely loving. The club does allow us to bring a limited number of guests. Right. Well, here we're going to find out.

Ready? The club does allow us to bring a limited number of guests on site for special events. So my husband is wanting to invite his sister's family to things. Sorry, I don't know why I just stuttered. My husband is wanting to invite his sister's family to things. And here's where I might be a brat. My sister-in-law and her family are not the elk of country clubbers, if you know what I mean.

They don't work, they don't even try to work. They live off of their parents. They're in their late 30s, they're older than us. They do not own the proper attire to attend events at this venue. To make matters worse, I find them insufferable to be around and impossible to relate to. This makes holiday events especially hard.

My PJM of a husband wants to invite them to country club events and doesn't have an embarrassed bone in his body. He doesn't understand why I have so much anxiety around this. What do I do? I don't like this of her. I don't like people who are embarrassed of their family for reasons like this,

that they don't have the right clothes. Like if you don't want to be around her cause she's insufferable, that's a different problem. But like, you're at a club and there's a buffet and a million things going on. It's not like you guys really have to chat. But to be like embarrassed of them because they're not the elk of country clubbers.

Like that's really snobbish. Agreed. And if there is a dress code, like a lot of clubs like require a man to wear like a collared shirt or whatever, just let them know. Yeah, they'll have a collared shirt. It might be ugly.

Who gives a fuck? But it will be within the code. I care more about like what's on top of the buffet. You know? You're really, you need to completely rejigger your priorities. Sounds like you just hate these people and like you're looking for an excuse for them not to come.

But Jackie's right. Like you should never be embarrassed of your family. Like family's family. You can not want to spend time with them because of their insides, but not because of their outsides. I'm right, she just mom'd you hard. You've been mothered. Sorry, I know that's not cool, but that's just like,

I don't like that. But I do think you have a responsibility as the club member to let them know about the dress code. Because you don't want them showing up and then they'll be embarrassed that they can't come into the dining room. So yes, tell them the dress code. They'll be within dress code.

It might not be pretty, but it will be acceptable. But they need to know if they can't wear a hat or shorts or flip flops. So just like, get over it. Just change your mindset. Yeah. So I'm like feeling defensive of the sister. I know. I mean, them not defensive of the sister. I know.

I mean, I'm not having jobs like is a little crazy. You know, when it's like, they're not the Elcho country clubbers, but they're just like these nepo babies who live off their parents. Right, their parents are rich enough. Sounds like country clubbers. You so, sounds like clubbers to me.

That's a good point, good inconsistency you pointed out. Yeah. Interesting. Follow up. Do let us know. Yeah. Interesting. Follow up. Do let us know. Yeah. Guys, that's our show, a Nalofing for you.

It's a Nalof? I'm flying blind. Yeah, it's like an hour 10. I know you are flying blind. You need to get a clock. No, the thing is I look at, I know what time we start and then I have a sense how we're pacing. Well, I have a sense that today's episode is over

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