The Toast - Cream Queens: Thursday, March 5th, 2026

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

1. ‘Traitors’ winner Rob Rausch gifts Maura Higgins Burgundy Hermès Birkin on ‘WWHL’ (Page Six) (21:01) 2. Chase Stokes Slams Morgan Evans’ ‘Masculinity’ Over His Remarks About Kelsea Ballerini Divorce (US Weekly) (31:47) 3. Khloé Kardashian Addresses Speculation About a Change in Her Current Role at Her Brand Good American, Reveals She Has 'a Few More' Frozen Embryos and Has Contemplated Having Another Baby on Her Own (PEOPLE) (38:36) 4. Britney Spears Arrested for DUI (Page Six) (50:26) 5. ‘The Masked Singer’ Reveals the Identity of Eggplant: Here Is the Celebrity Under the Costume (Variety) (52:22) - Southern Charm Recap (55:41) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Toast Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Toast Merch ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Camper & The Counselor⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Lean In Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and Eppy Thursday. Yeah, that's right. We made it to the latter half of the week. Pat yourselves on the back.

Pat yourself on the back. Hey, Jax, how you derr? Dern good. Excited that it's Thursday. Yeah. Excited that we're both matching today. Creamy vibes. The theme category is cream.

Creamy. Creamy. Queen's? Sounds like a porno. Title. We're always thinking for a titillating title. Like that'll kind of force people to click,

you know, curiosity. Cream queens. But that's us today. We are so creamy. Yes, we are. I'm wearing a shirt that I put on and I was like, I feel like I'm wearing Jackie's clothes. I love it.

Thanks. Where'd you get it? Nudes. I figured. Yeah. I don't know how I feel about wearing short sleeves. You know, don't you feel like wearing short sleeves, as a person who had a baby

somewhat recently is kind of a brave thing to do It's not even short sleeves are just so juvenile Like it's so middle school But no I'm saying I said I love your sweater And I want your sweater

It's not about you and your sweater But there is something just so juvenile About short sleeves Certain types of short sleeves I don't know what it was something about my shirt today So short sleeve Like I'm kind of walking into the room sleeves first Yeah

And I feel like we talk about this the last time Maggie Rogers went to the Grammys and wore short-sleeved gown. Like a short-sleeve gown is insane. Yeah. Certain types of short sleeves are just more obvious than others. And I feel like, yes, mine today are just so obvious. Yeah, but it has nothing to do with like arm size or anything. It just has to do with like attitude.

You know, short sleeves is like, oh, I have gym class today. I'm in short sleeves. It's PE. Yeah. But a mature woman has a long arm. But all is to say, I love your sweater. I'm really not knocking your sweater. I'm actually like, I wish I were wearing.

It comes with matching pants, but it was too hot. Oh, wow. I wish I were wearing. It's not about you, but they're like, we need to discuss short sleeves because. I feel like we actually talk a lot about cap sleeves, which are just like an insane. No, that's not a real thing. Not in. That's not a real thing.

I don't even want to like dignify cap sleeves at the discussion. Yeah. Short sleeves are just crazy. They're not crazy. They're just, they're just interesting, you know. Yeah, I do. I don't have a lot of short sleeves unless mine a t-shirt. In which case, yeah, we have P.E.

T-shirt is different, though. I'm taking the presidential fitness test today. T-shirt is different. Oh, my God, all those tests, like the presidential fitness test, the B-JEs. If you didn't go to a Jewish school, you don't know the B-Js. The regents. The regents is where Tom cheated on his wife. I took my regents at the regency.

She's a high-class woman, you know? The regents, the B-Js, like all those standardized tests, of course, the SATs. I can't get back there. Everyone knows the SATs. I told the story. I was just talking about this over the weekend. Did I ever tell you guys a story about the time my SAT tutor like fainted? Like in our session?

I don't think so. But that was the same tutor I had, right? No, no, no, no. Different tutor? We went through a couple of tutors. And this was before I, like my tutor that changed my life. His name was Snehal. It took me a while to find him.

So before Snehahel, there was a woman. She would come to the house for like little sessions. And I remember one time I was home alone, which like we weren't kids who were home alone a lot. Like either just because we had like a lot of siblings, but also we just I didn't grow up in a house where we were left home alone. No. It was kind of like against the rules. And I was home alone, which was just freaky.

And she came over and she was like, is it okay if I eat my soup during our session? I was like, yeah, of course. She had her soup. She was like slurping on it the entire time. And towards the end of the session, I was like, great, thanks so much. She was like, you know, I feel like there might have been gluten in that soup. I'm really not feeling well. I'm allergic to gluten.

And I was like, oh. can you like i was so uncomfortable and she was like do you mind if i just like lay my head down for a second and i was like okay so she like dead ass like collapsed on the dining room table like head on like sprawled out and i just sort of like sat there and watched i really didn't know what to do i was so scared um mostly i just wanted her out like if she was going to have a medical episode like please do it in the lobby or like just elsewhere because I'm a child and like I personally just can't take this on I'm taking the SATs like I have a lot on my plate right now and so she just sort of laid there for a while and then she picked her head up and was like okay thank you I'll go and I said that's amazing I'm calling snail yeah and I do believe that was one of our last sessions and when everyone got home later that night I told them what happened I don't know if you remember and everyone was like that's really weird I'm like no it's really weird like what if she was like starting to throw up or like I would have been in college so I I I I wasn't home. Where the hell was everyone?

I was in college. I was in college. Really? When did you take your SATs? You start studying? Your junior year. You study as a junior? Yeah.

Yeah, okay, you were in college. So I was in college. Olivia was probably home because Olivia went to NYU and she was like always hanging. She probably wasn't home and that's why I like this story went nowhere. Yeah. It was like Margo to like carry the torch. And she like seriously didn't care. Because like if it was, you know, if we were all home, it would have been like remember the time.

Oh my God. That was so. And I remember she looked a lot like Sarah Borellis. She was like so just like. a girl, you know. Sarah Biller Ellis. Oh, I had someone I wanted to induct into the Kia asylum. Let's hear it. Who I believe is spending time there right now. Who? Ice spice. Yes, when I, uh, when the discourse does include ice spice. I forgot to, but I feel like the key asylum, sometimes people then loop in, like the conversation we were having about like people

who were so, well, no, actually, no, you're right, you're right, you're right, ice spice, yeah. But there's a lot of different, like not everyone's there for the same reason. And I don't know the reasons a lot of them are there sometimes. It's audience cue score. Sometimes it's industry. They didn't, you know, play the game, shake the man. So I don't know why. I also don't know why Ice Spice was all of a sudden like, Ice Spice. You know, is everybody knowing Ice Spice? What were the circumstances that, like, led to her being eligible for a Taylor Smith collab?

Right. I missed that. I hadn't really heard of her before that. Yeah. I miss that. And then everybody's like, of course it's Ice Spice on Karma. And I'm like, of course. Of course it is.

Yeah. You don't know that? And now that she's not around. I'm like, yeah, where is she? I miss her. You know who's kind of in the Ki Asylum? Doja Cat. Doja Cat.

But I think that's through her own, like, sort of wacky behavior. She's not in the Kia Asylum. She is off the grid. Like, she... But she's not. No, but, like, she went to somewhere. She took herself there to a retreat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Where... She's in, like, she's in isolation. Yeah, but self-imposed. Yeah. Self-imposed. Like, whenever she decides to come out with, like, more music or whatever, like, it's going to be bops and everyone's going to love it. But she just, like, doesn't want to be in the scene.

I think that might be, like, how you perceive it. but that's not true. I do believe she's, like, released music somewhat recently. And she, like, does a lot of live live a lot of live streams. Yeah, to promote. I don't, I don't know if the self-imposition is... What was she talking about recently? She's always saying crazy stuff.

That's kind of my queen right there. Like, what was she, what was her subject recent? I just saw her talking about something. I have no idea what it was. I have no idea what you're talking about. Really? Mm-hmm. She was just going viral.

I mean, she's always going viral. Oh, she was yelling at everyone. Slay Mama. But I forget. Why? I don't care. Sometimes people need to be yelled out. Yeah.

I forget why. I forget what impression it left me with. No clue. Yeah, that's not someone who's like caring about. No, but do you remember like the year where everything Doja Cat made was the biggest thing on the planet? Why don't you say so? Didn't even notice no punches left to roll. Wow.

The fact that I know that whole TikTok dance and that song actually just brought me back to such a dark time. Yeah. She was like the queen of 2020. She was somebody who got like lifted up in COVID. I actually think COVID's impact on the Kia asylum can't be understated. There's definitely like a COVID wing. People who like had a lot of momentum leading up to COVID and then like COVID changed all the culture and like sort of sidetracked their career. Also some people who, quibby.

Quibi. Some people who wouldn't have ever been famous had it not been for COVID and people like losing their minds and thinking like, yeah, I'm going to listen to this. You know what I mean? I feel like the impact of COVID on Taylor Swift's career can be understated. Like folklore was a successful album due and part. to the depression everyone was experiencing. Yes, and the cancellation of lover fest was probably a good thing. A good thing for her, yeah.

Yeah. So yeah, just COVID continuing to make impacts. Yeah. You know, when people in the industry talk about say-so, the song. Do people in the industry have conversations? They talk about say-so, like that's the template. Like she did something totally new and everyone's been trying to like chase it ever since. She also like created a new sound.

People are always trying to like make new sounds. she created a new sound that was good and that like people copied. Yeah, people are like I was, you know, going for say-so. Oh, do they say that? Yeah. When I create music, I'm always going for Love Myself by Haley Seinfeld. Oh, that's nice. Like whenever they want me to like send references, I'm always sending Haley Seinfeld's

catalog of music. You should meet her. I feel like you guys would be friends. I like how you say that, like I've had the option and I turned it down. I wouldn't love to. I feel like you like. I respect her. When you think about like slubs that you would want to meet and be friends with,

obviously it's like Taylor. Highley. But I think you and Haley would be really close. I agree. Like we both love music. We both could have pursued music as full-time careers, but decided like our talents were better suited in other places. We both are married to like insane athletes.

I think Josh and Ben would get along. He loves a Josh. He does love a Josh. She's, you know, preggie. Yeah, she's in her mama era. New Yorkers. Yes, New Yorker. The elk of New Yorkers.

Both former friends of Taylor. I think that you should like pursue a friendship with her. Not that we've had this conversation. I feel like Miles Teller's grandma. Like you could be friends with. What if you just called Haley up? Yeah. What if you asked her to lunch? Well I do always like leave you know supportive comments on her

Instagram and I've never even received so much as a like. So I'm getting the vibe but she's not interested in reciprocating a friendship. I don't think she's noticed yet but I feel like if she knew. Okay here's my application for being Haley Stainville, it's a new friend. Stug in the dark but you're my flashlight. Not gonna go well. You're getting me, getting me through the night. Oh, man.

No, when you're shining in my eyes. No way around me, it's a sweet life. I also hate Anna Kendrick, if that helps. I think we just blew it. No, I think like our chances are better than ever. Everybody loves us. That's literally us. We have to like texting each other like the most vile, nasty gossip.

Everybody loves us. It's true. You're not seeing double. You're seeing trouble. That's true. You're not seeing creamy double. You're seeing creamy trouble. Everybody loves us.

Shilling. Today's Thursday. No special segments. Actually, we do have a special segment. Me recapping Southern Charm. Okay. I know the Southern Charm community is that. Things are getting crazy.

I hear it's getting bad out there for Craig fans. It's getting bad out there for the Craig fans and for Craig. Craig's self. We should have Mott. I have questions for him. You know? I like, yeah, I have questions. And I'll do my recap at the end because I know everyone's like waiting with baited breath.

And also major news in my household, I got back into my Hulu. I went to Hulu. Just in time for the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives for me. I went to Hulu with Zach last night. I was like, because we were going to watch JFK. And I was like, you know, we'll just make a new account because like every night it's posing an issue. We'll succumb to corporate greed. We were just let in.

Thank you, Hulu. Oh, they opened the gates. So we watched one episode until I realized Southern Charm was on last night and we also watched that together. So we did one in one. Okay. So I watched the episode, you know, the one that you keep talking about page six at the end or whatever. Right. So now like the world knows.

Why was he putting on her skirt? Yeah. I don't know. And see, maybe the boat gets wobbly. But that's what happened though on the actual boat. But don't you feel like the actor playing JFK Jr., like doesn't give like off the vibes of a guy who like puts on your shorts? So here's the thing. You think his poor performance is a referendum on the actor.

I do. I'm interpreting it as a referendum on JFK, the man. It's not because now, like, every news outlet is posting their archival interviews with JFK Jr. And I see him outside. He was hosting an event with Paul Newman. He was so that guy. Like, he was so handsome and, like, so smart. And maybe behind closed doors, like, he was, like, a weenie who was putting on.

But, like, I don't get that vibe whatsoever from his, like, front-facing interviews. But it's not like the things that he's saying. It's like the things that he did, like, bring. her to his sister's dinner without telling either her nor sister. Yeah. And in the show, it's giving he's like ditsy and losery, but maybe in real life he wanted to like test her. And you know what?

He's acting without intention, like the men of Bravo. He is Jesse Solomoning. Yeah. And Austin crawling. A thousand percent. And West Wilsoning. A thousand percent. Intention.

One other thing. Don't you, who do you feel like the real Carolyn Missette looks like in real life? This isn't going to like ring true for our readers. What do you mean? Like in our personal life, don't you feel like she looks like our friend Casey? Like they're twins. Oh, I have to look at her now. Oh, they're twins.

You need to catch up like in fall. There's one more episode and then one more coming out, I think like tonight and midnight. Yeah. So I guess like Monday Love Story Recap? Sure. Okay. Love story. I could talk.

So weird that that's the name of it. Endlessly about the show. And Ryan Murphy, when he did American Crime Story OJ, then it was like he's going to do a lot more American crime stories. And I think he did Versailles. And that was it. Monica Lewinsky. Oh, that was three American crimes. Mm-hmm.

So we'll get more love stories then. Oh, is love story like a category? And this is just the first like sort of untold Jake Paul Lamar Odom? Like it can be like because American crime was OJ and what I just say? Versace. God, it was Monica Lewinsky and American crime. I don't think so because you just said. Oh, I'm sorry.

I didn't understand what you were saying. Okay, yeah. American crime, Ryan Murphy. Good question. So it's like a category. Yeah. And it's a series. Yes.

So season one was O'clock. OJ's two was Gianni. Three was impeachment. Okay. And then he also does Monster, which is like serial killers. Dahmer was the first season. Second season was Eric Menendez and Lyle Menendez. Got it.

So now love story. Got it. So he has like these sort of franchises. Oh, I like that. I never put that together. Yeah. So what do you think the next love story should be? I feel like he should do.

There's so many. That's a great question. Thank you. Actually, like an amazing question. Hold on. I really want to think. You know what I would like? Like Elizabeth Burton.

Elizabeth Taylor. and Richard Burton. I love that. Like someone explained that. They got married and divorced and she also had time to get married like six other times. I love that. Yeah. That's a blind spot for me.

Me too. And that's a great one. Kim loves her and you know they're like. Kim could play not Elizabeth Taylor, but like maybe a receptionist or something. I think Kylie should play Elizabeth Taylor. Let's talk about Kylie in the moment. Do you see the clip of her? Of course.

Apparently she's only in the film for one scene. Yeah. Which I watched. Literally some of the best acting I've ever seen in my life. She out-acted the fuck out of. Charlie XXX, like, who was kind of doing, I mean, obviously I don't know how to act, but I feel like you're like supposed to be like not so drama, you know, it's like, it's supposed to be all in the subtleties. But I also don't know the context of a scene. I think Charlie's supposed to be playing

like very frazzled. She just came from a session with Maria. Who I want to say is like a guru of sorts. Or a facialist. And then and then she runs into Kylie and she's like obviously having like a manic episode and Kylie is playing herself, you know, heightened. Cool girl collected. Like cool com collected. also like a little bit condescending, but sweet. Very industry, like, oh, you must be so busy. Yeah, and she really slayed. She went to the Timothy Chalameh School of Acting. I don't know if he, like, passed on a coach or coach.

It was so impressive. And I feel like the Kardashians a couple of times have, like, waded into acting, outside of Kim's now, like, acting career. You know, Kim was in a movie once, and, you know, Courtney was in some... Date movie. Courtney was in the, she's all that. And whenever the girls act, it's, like, very camp and it's, like, not good, you know? this like seriously she needs an agent yeah it was so impressive she was Elizabeth Taylor don't you

think Elizabeth Taylor don't you think don't you think I do she looks like her yeah body like on point hips very feminine yeah free that's a great love story okay what's another one I don't know maybe like the Jacqueline fillet Turdy Lou freebush love story that's true I love that or maybe it's literally by the way love story is literally famous couples throughout history I'm not okay It's a giving prom theme I'm not okay It literally is we could also do

Even though at this point I feel like the story is told But it might be time for a fictionalized Or you know like a scripted version David and Victoria Oh wait that's really good Is that a story? No but it was

Yeah it was Brooklyn Beckham's birthday yesterday And she posted these like just honestly Pathetic pictures of them It's like clearly like you know He was their first born Like changed their lives All these pictures of the three of them And she was like, happy birthday at Brooklyn Beckham.

We love you so much. And then... It was pictures of, like, them with him as a baby, like, one and two years old. So sad. Like, it was heartbreaking. The boy mama and me. I know. And then I do want to say, Nicola also posted, like, a video.

She, like, set up this, like, donut cake and a bunch of presents. And honestly, like, he looked really happy. Like, they have a nice life. Like, it was a nice video, too. I don't know. I'm just, like, it was really sad. Yeah. And she's, even though, like, he did what he did, she still loves.

She, like, doesn't hate enough. to like not love and wish him happy birthday. Oh, sick. The Beckham's is a great one. Thank you. So look forward to that. Let's dive in, shall we? Yes, we shall.

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legacybox.com slash T-O-A-S-T. Thank you, T-U-R-T. Good welcome. Our first story, Traders winner, Rob Ross, gives Mora Higgins a burgundy Arame's Birkin on Watch What Happens Live. So the story has come full circle. Rob, who betrayed Mora on Traders, shared on the reunion that Mora said if he got her a Birkin, that all would be well because he won over $200 grand by, you know, betraying her.

So last night they were both on Watch What Happens Live. Andy was in an amazing mood. Like he was so, I think he's very like taken by Mora. No, because I know what you're going to say a lot of times like when there's like a young hot thing, Andy like perks up. like he loves the young guys of Bravo and he's like kind of mean to the girls but always nice to the guys. No, he was very taken by Mora. Mora had the first seat.

He was like, I tink, he was being really funny. Like he was giving OG Andy. And I think he was just excited to be in the presence of like a really fucking fabulous young girl. And I think it's very exciting for Andy that Traders is so popular and it's on Peacock so he gets to like make it about himself a little bit. Yeah. I think he was excited. It was a great. It was like a vintage episode.

Yes. And Rob gifted Mora the Birkin that he got her. So it was a very big journey for the Berkin yesterday. Rob went to Madison Avenue consignment with Jake Shane. I was, I meant to text him like, what were you doing there? I still haven't gotten clarity on his involvement. Yeah, nobody knows Jake Shane's involvement, but Jake Shane was there because Jake Shane is always there. He's going to be there.

Yeah. And I love that. I don't know somebody on the internet who was so universally liked by both his peers, but also the fans. Like, because sometimes like, you know, somebody blows up at all, the comments are like, I don't understand the hype or whatever. He is so genuinely funny. And he's also like a nice guy. So like everyone who comes on his podcast, like becomes his friend.

He's like very affable with both, you know, the fans and his peers like. I don't think Jake Shane has haters. I think Jake Shane has one hater. Do you know. Oh. Do you know what I'm going to say? Do you think I know what you're going to say? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I just think he has, I do. I do think he has one hater. I don't think there are communities that organize like talk shit about Jake Shane. because there's like really nothing. No, like I haven't ever gone, but I doubt there's like a Reddit thing about Jake Shane. He's just like the best.

Yeah. And he's Jewish though, so he probably, and he's friends with Sophia Ritchie, our Zionist queen. So like I'm sure there's like a, there might be that. There might be that. But other than that, like,

who could hate Jake Shane? No. Everybody loves him. But actually, like we say it as a joke when everybody hates us. And he like, it's serious. We're being for real when he said it. Because usually we're saying it as a joke.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we know that you guys are discerning and that you know when we're joking. And you'll get it. And when we're serious. Yeah. The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind. It's really true.

No, no. My mind is blown. I meant it when I said it. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Anyways, Rob spent the day with Jake shopping at Madison Avenue consignment at Madison Avenue consignment. Right.

Because a lot of people were like, the bag is fake. You can't just walk into a store and buy a burkin. And while that is true, you can buy a second hand. Most people don't even buy burkins at Hermes. No, you can buy them secondhand from a consignment shop. They're more expensive. They're more expensive. But also this one looks to be fresh out of the box.

Like, apparently Rob was wearing gloves. He said no one has ever touched this Birken with their hands until Moora. He also shared that Lisa Rinna was helping him get a Birkin. He was going to go to Paris because, like, yeah, if you want to get one from the store today, like you either have to be like a client with a lot of history or not even. They like order it. Like you can't just get one today.

But maybe someone could. Right. Or, you know, travel around the world. You have to pull major streets. You have to pull major strings to get it out. Some of the stores are a little bit more lenient. Like you can get a leather appointment in Paris. Yeah.

So, and you have to pull major strings, which, you know, if you've never shop there before, you can't. Yeah. So Lisa Rinan was helping him. He was going to go to Paris.

And then this came about where he was connected with Madison Avenue consignment. It's obviously like sponsored because I mean, I've said Madison Avenue consignment three times now. Yeah. We're ready for our burgers, Madison Avenue consignment. And it's really brilliant.

But he still, he still owes her Bergen. Yeah, because he didn't pay for it. It was supposed to come from the prize fund. Now also, I want to talk about Lisa Rina, who's really having a moment. I feel, and I was like a Lisa Rina on housewives.

I was like, I was not ever really on her side. And I was one of those people who was glad that she left. And then afterwards, I was like, wait, she's kind of necessary. And then I've been hearing really good things about her book, which she's been doing press for it just came out. People are mad that she said this thing about Sutton, that she had like a weird body. But beyond that, the book is getting rave reviews.

And I do feel like she's really interesting. I only know her from, like, 2016 on. But I forget that, like, she was that girl for a, really long time in Hollywood like she married Harry Hamlin like you can just be nobody you know yeah I think I might read her book yeah now that I read yeah I read before bad I think it would be a good one like Melrose place right like she was there for all of it and plus the Nicola charitin of it all cheridan she used to be married to uh Harry hamlin and I believe they have a child together right really yeah let me just triple check before I just make stuff up but I'm almost fairly no I don't

think that that's true I think it's something with Michael Bowman Bolton. Michael Bolton. No, he does. Dimitri Alexander Hamlin. Parents are Harry Hamlin. Oh, no. And Ursula Andres.

Children of Nicolette Sheridan. Oh, she doesn't have kids. Okay, my bad. I was confused. Yeah. I mean, we could learn all about it in her book. Right. Yeah.

And like the traders. And I'm sure she planned it this way, like for traders and her book to coincide. But also I feel like she's really riding the traders wave. And she's like teamed up with Rob. They're doing like a bunch of shit together. And I feel like it's so Rinnah, because I feel like she would otherwise be mad at him because he really did throw her under the bus,

but she knows it's better for her to be aligned with him. She's a business woman. Yeah, and she's not going to take it personally. It's not personal. It's not personal. It's not business. Do you feel like a return to Bravo is in the cards for Lisa? Like, she is, her cue score has gone up immensely, just over time, you know, time heals all wounds.

And she's, you know, she's very big in fashion. She goes to a lot of the couture. Couture? It's couture, honey. Do you know that sound? Couture. No. It's a trending sound on TikTok where she's like wearing this really crazy. I want to say it's like Scaparelli.

So it's sort of like costuming outfit. She's at Paris Fashion Week. And one of the Parisian reporters is like, is this Coutor? And she's like, it's Cotor. But it looks kind of nutty. He's like, is Cotor? It's Cotor, honey. Check the label.

It's the funniest interview ever. And it went viral on TikTok. So she's like very big in fashion in like a serious way like with her girls. I don't think she needs to return to Bravo. I think she could. I think at a time when she wasn't asked back and she was like hated by the fandom. It was kind of devastating for her. but she really picked herself up by those bootstraps in a way that only Lisa Rina could.

Yeah. And that's sort of what she was saying on Traders, which I do understand. Like, everybody on this show and people watching the show know her from the last eight years. But she was Lisa fucking Rina before all of that. So I could see her not wanting to return. Like she kind of doesn't need it. Yeah. I don't know.

I would welcome it. I think she was like happy when she wasn't on Housewives. I think she would be happy to be on Housewives. Whenever this all settles down traitors in the book, like maybe she'll see how she feels. but I think she could really go either way. Is she still really tight with Erica? Yes, I think so. I don't have reason to believe that they're not.

I kind of like I'm ready for a Lisa, I'm in a return. I like the idea of bringing back old house eyes, even if they did need a break. Yes. You know? So I think we should normalize that concept. Yeah, and she was on Watchrappens Live.

And I guess I didn't realize that she had like left it poorly with Andy. Yeah, and he wrote about her in her book in a way that she didn't like. He shared her text messages. Yes. So that was like sort of the big betrayal that she felt. but I guess her going back to Watchraven's Live was like a...

Yeah, and he, like, gave her, like, a big... Moment. Ode to Renna? Yeah. Not like an apology for anything, but a moment of appreciation. Yeah, it was nice. Lisa, yeah. I think it was as close to, like, an apology as Andy can give a housewife.

Like, he's Andy and their housewives. Well, Moore got her Birkin, Burgundy with gold hardware, which was what she requested. And I'm very happy for her. I'm happy for her, too. She was fabulous on Watcher Appens Live. Like, I was thinking about what you were saying about how, like, the traders will end up being like this huge amazing thing for her because she will now become like a fixture in fashion and in media in these states like she does major things in the UK she's like a

correspondent she goes to like whatever their version of the Oscars is the Baptist like but she doesn't really have that um recognition here and she's just like really making the most of this moment and I do feel like it will end up converting for her like she's going to be yeah I'm trying to think of like a comparison almost like a like a page to sorbo it's a situation like all press is good press yeah um Yeah, she could be an influencer. I mean, I think she has TV aspirations and also... Correspondent. Yes, but I feel like also...

Modeling. ...and movies and television. Fabulous. So not just, like, being an influencer. Because she has that, like, on law. Of course, of course. She pays her bills, like, quite fine. Yeah, she didn't have to come to the States for that,

but I think she wants Hollywood. Are we to believe that she doesn't own any other burkins? Like, this is her first? So I don't believe that. And I feel like if we cruised her insert... She never said this is my first burking. She said she wants a burkin. Okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah. She definitely has. Yeah, she definitely has. Or like a mini-kelly. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But no, she's not like trying to make us think that she doesn't have one. I think she's really tight with Lisa, too. That was the vibe I got from March 7's Live.

Oh, cute. Yeah. That's a good, nice friendship. Are you ready for our next story? Did you see the cut with their, they make the worst fucking takes on traitors? I don't know who, like, their correspondent is on the traitors beat, but they were the one who wrote the article, like, Michael Robert Report's running traitors and saying that Housewives, like, shouldn't be allowed on traitors anymore. I saw the headline, but what was the argument? That like, I guess they're too emotional and like, like, drama.

But like... It's reality television. It's such a bad take, too. That's really the thesis? That, like, pulls people in. Wait, that's really the reason. I only read, like, the first two lines. I'm not going to stop quizzing me.

I don't know. Oh, sorry. Okay. I'm like, I'm just a girl who read the headlines like everyone else. But, you know, like any good essay should be able to establish your argument in the intro, let us know what we're in for. I didn't even read the intro. Like, I just read the headline in the first sentence.

And then prove your points in the body. I'm sure they did. And then summarize it. I'm sure I would just disagree with it. The housewives are the most interesting part, especially for someone like me and I think a lot of people who watch traitors who just are a part of the Bravo universe. I don't watch Survivor. I don't watch Big Brother. So like, what are you talking about?

They're huge gets. Yeah. Some perform better than others, Durinda, like stunk it up, but who cares? Fine. Plenty of other people who are in House of I stunk. Agreed. So that's not cool. Yeah.

Stupid take. Bad take. Yeah. But I would like to know the argument before I officially adjudicate. Well, you can read it yourself. For I officially adjudicate on matter. You're obsessed with reading. Cut articles that you hate.

They're always like making the crate. And I guess that's like they're the point, like provocative headlines. But they're always dumb and bad. That Michael Rappaport one really pissed me off because that was like some of the best traitors when he was on. Yeah. Michael Rappaport is ruining traitors. Like, no, your article is.

If you're a traitor and you know it, clap your hands. Are you ready for our next story? Some drama. The men are fighting. Chase Stokes slams Morgan Evans's masculinity. over his remarks about Kelsey Ballerini divorce on Bobby Bones' podcast. And Bobby Bones got involved and really took Morgan Evans' side, which I feel like was a big deal.

But we have to separate all the people here, you know? So Morgan Evans, ex-husband of Kelsey Ballerini. Subject of her EP that really went viral and made her a household name rolling up the welcome mat. And subject of her call her daddy interview about her divorce. Morgan Evans, who's also a country artist, who doesn't like share that much about his person. life and just like puts out music. He really went off the grid for many years after Kelsey's, after his divorce, he moved to New Zealand and he's just now resurfacing with a fiance, I think, or a girlfriend, some new music in a very small, non-threatening way. And so he went on Bobby

Bones's podcast called Bobbycast and they delved a little bit into his divorce from Kelsey. So in the interview, he admitted that he was not expecting the conversation when Kelsey told him that she wanted a divorce in 2022. He said, quote, I definitely wasn't expecting it. Were you blindsided or you're just blind. And it took me by surprise. But yeah, that whole time is such a blur. It almost feels like somebody else just from where I'm sitting now. I just look back and I'm like, oh my God.

Yeah, it was just kind of a whirlwind life-changing moment. Elsewhere in the interview, he argued that he was characterized unfairly in the narrative surrounding his divorce from Kelsey. He said, in my case, it didn't feel like it necessarily had a lot to do with me. I think maybe I was presented or made out to be or became an archetype for any guy that had done any woman wrong during that period of time. Some of the stuff was just like, what? What are you even talking about?

It doesn't not hurt, especially if it was real vicious or something. And then I'd click on whoever said it and just have a look and just be like, oh, yeah, it's okay. That looks like somebody going through a tough time. Yeah, because the album became this, like, sort of empowering thing for women who had been, like, scorned, he sort of did become like a punching bag almost. And everyone was, like, relating to Kelsey in their situations, which were much worse. Now, Kelsey and her interview told a lot about the marriage and in the album a lot about the marriage.

he never did anything like really bad. He just like wasn't an amazing husband and they really were not well suited for one another as they grew up. Yeah. But then everybody started to put like their trauma marriage and be like yeah, he's a Morgan Evans. It became like a verb almost.

And so I feel like he's never talked about his divorce, his reaction to being the subject of this viral album, this viral interview, this viral moment. So like six years later, however many years it's been, he talks about it in a still really respectful way. And Kelsey has even written music and spoken about how like, Like she does regret a little bit how much she shared.

She wrote the song The Revisionist about that. Just like, you know, did she share too much and like whatever? And he's not even like so mad, you know? I thought it was like such a nothing interview. Yeah. And then Chase sort of leaves this crazy comment. Commented saying this is about the most pathetic excuse of masculinity I've ever seen. Get a fucking life under Bobby in the comment section of the interview from Bobby Bowen.

So then Bobby Bowles replied to that comment. and went off on Chase. Also, he did delete the comment. He's like, if you're going so hard. Go. Go all. Like, who goes? That's like so crazy.

Honestly, we need a well-mish check on Chase Stokes. This is insane behavior. Yeah, this is like the second time where he's done some really wild social media behavior. While him and Kelsey are not together, it's giving the vibe that he's like a really toxic boyfriend. Like, I actually think this is so crazy, especially because nothing in this interview was really bad or mean to Kelsey. I think if Kelsey, I'm sure she didn't watch it. But I think if she did, she maybe wouldn't find fault. He's allowed to think he was a good husband. Like, that's just what divorces. Everybody has their own version of the truth. And he's allowed to like share his experience

six years later after she thoroughly shared hers. A thousand percent. I don't think she would take issue right with this at all. I think she likes Bobby Bones. I don't think that she's never going to go on the Bobby Bones. Like I don't think anything about this was bad. Like the man was beaten to a pulp. Like literally, he's allowed to say one thing. I get the vibe, but like, didn't even watch or listen to the interview. He's just like doing this like, Kelsey, I'm going to get you back. Look at me defending your honor. It's so cringe.

It's so yucky. I believe they're broken up. Yeah, I hope they're broken up. Me too. This is so yucky. How about you just stop cheating on her? That's like kind of toxic masculinity. You know, like you don't need to get in the comments and start yelling at her ex from six years ago.

You could just stop cheating on her and be the man that she needs because she's looking for a man with intention right now. I kind of want to argue. Like what he did to Kelsey was worse than what her husband did. A hundred percent. Like his only real crime was like maybe not being like the most attentive or whatever. Like things that are sort of stereotypical in a marriage that's falling apart. Like nothing bad.

No cheating. No stealing. No lying. Like, um, I would sit down. Yeah, I would just stop cheating, brov. And then like stop with the comments. And if you're going to go hard like Bobby said, leave the comment. Go hard.

Be hard. Be hard. Chase Stokes who's also like sensitive. Yeah. I feel like this is like his like version of a grand gesture on her behalf. And I just know she like hates this. Yeah. Like seriously leave Morgan alone. I actually think Kelsey feels now like leave more like like I think that's her how she

looks on the whole situation. And also like excavating more drama between these two like isn't good for Kelsey. Like she's moved on. It's true. And now you're the problem. Yeah. Not Morgan. A thousand percent.

It's so weird how that relationship turned out because it was really like everything. So the. Men who love women after heartbreak. Like it was this, kind of how her old relationship became the stereotype, like the archetype of like a bad marriage and a bad divorce. It was like the hope, the eternally hopeful story. Yeah.

Of like a rebound that's the one and he knows all the words. Yikes. Yikes, bikes. I think this guy is like trouble. Me too. I'm seeing trouble. The erratic behavior also like makes me think, you know. I don't know.

I don't think I want you to say. I'm not going to, but like people who act crazy like this. No, I just think he's like crazy and like he tries to overcorrect his errors. Right. By, oh. These grand gestures. Yeah, with grand gestures that like don't really mean anything that cause issues. And it's like, just stop cheating, bruv and commit to her, bruv.

That's it. It's that simple. Be the man that she needs. Come be the man I need. Tell me you got something to give. I want it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's pretty simple.

That was really crazy of him. Yeah, really embarrassing. Loser sneeze. Loser sneeze. Loser sneeze. Next, Chloe Kardashian is sharing on her podcast about a bunch of things, including her status with Good American. Yeah, I feel like we sort of blew this up.

Shout out to my girl Georgie, who made the TikTok about it and put me onto it. So Chloe did like a Q&A on Chloe in Wonderland, which is just becoming like a great forum for Chloe to discuss Chloe things. And her family. Like the fact that they haven't always had this like in-house podcast where they can address things head on, it's such a mistake. Yeah. So she's addressing speculation about a change in her current role at her brand, Good American. So she shared that she's still co-founder and owner of Good American.

At first, she said, I think you really want to help build the brand as much as you can. And we've definitely done that. But Good American is doing so well. And Good American is strong enough and stable enough to sustain on its own. She concluded that she's still very much co-founder and owner of the brand. So I feel like I always bring up this example. Do you know what I'm about to say? Fabletics.

Yes. Because it's like a perfect example of how like there was a time where fabletics was Kate Hudson's ethel leisure company. They used her. I'm sure she has like an equity partnership in the brand, but they used her to act like it was her company. And then it eventually became so big. People forgot, is it Kate Hudson's like she, I don't even know if she's a part

of it. She doesn't post for it. I don't think it's in her bio, you know? It's like this way of building brands off of the backs of celebrities where eventually they're supposed to exist out. side of that celebrity and thrive without them. And I feel like Good American definitely got to the place where like it wasn't like Chloe posting the drops anymore, right?

It's like in every major department store. They have their own stores. It crushes. So I feel like they sort of ripped the Band-Aid off maybe a couple of months ago with like removing Chloe from it publicly facing. But people noticed, you know, they didn't notice when Kate Hudson did it. Yeah. And they just assume that it's bad.

But no, it's just like the next iteration of a brand sort of like Carolyn for road. Correct. Like removing the celebrity from the center of it. Yeah. Road is doing it slowly as they should. It feels like Good American maybe did it a little too quick. Yeah. It has to be like a really one step at a time.

It's also hard, like, depending on the celebrity. I think Haley will have a hard time ever with it out for it to ever feel like not Haley's brand. And I feel like the same for all the girls in their brands. Like they're just such brand, you know. Even those skims? No, like skims. Kim can really never, we'll never think of skimps as anything other. Sorry, we love it and we'll always wear it.

But like, if Kim ever tried to, like, remove herself from it. Oh, that's so funny. I so don't see it that way. I feel like Kim is so removed. I would think something went wrong. I feel like she's always, like, posting, like, videos of her. Oh, my God, I never see those. I always see just like skims.

Like, it's like its own company. I never, I feel like I haven't seen her do those, like, tryons. Like, guys, we're launching these on these. Oh, I feel like I haven't seen it in years. I feel like I'm always seeing stuff. Maybe it's just, like, our algorithms. But I feel like she has really successfully extricated herself from the brand. but like she's still always promoting it.

She's still like, you know, posting about it. But I don't even think of it so much as Kim's brand anymore. I think of this mega thing she built. Oh, really? Oh, I don't have that experience. I feel like for the girls, it will be hard for them because they're just like so forward facing. Kate Hudson does so many things.

Most of their brand. We like know about fabletics, not because of Kate Hudson. And then it's just like a fun fact. Oh, it's Kate Hudson. Yeah. So it's not the same. I feel like that's the sort of core issue with Kylie Cosmetics, is that she doesn't really want to be like so.

involved in it anymore, but she can't not. It's, first of all, literally her namesake. Maybe that's, like, what makes it hard. But it's like, I think products only sell when she posts about them. Whereas, like, Skims is getting, you know, thousands of orders a day, I imagine. And when Kim posts, it's like a little bit of a bump. But the company exists without Kim and her, like, supplemental promotion. Whereas, like, Kylie Cosmetics, I don't think they get one order until Kylie posted TikTok.

Yeah. And then it's like a couple of weeks of lots of orders. And then she's supposed another one. Yeah, and that's fine. Keep posting. Yeah, keep posting. But I think good American, like with their retail presence, I think that they very much operate without Chloe successfully.

Yeah. Yeah, with Lemmy. Really? Yeah. Lemmy is all over target. I mean, Lemmy does really well, but like it's still to me like Courtney. If Courtney ever stopped posted about Lemmy and Lemmy was still doing further launches and she wasn't posting about it, I would think something went wrong.

Now she could say, oh, nothing's wrong, you know, you just live on its own. I'd be like, oh, okay. I think that the brand could live on its own, like, without Courtney. I think they have like really good. Like they do like great social, like, in social. Instagram partnerships. They're all over target. Like whenever I walk into a place,

I feel like she supports, but I think every time she posts, like it doesn't necessarily move the needle that much. Like I think it's sort of, it's just funny what takes and what doesn't, you know? Yeah, but I think with that, she's more so like the face of it,

like not about like direct to consumer, like click this link. Right, right, right. The Courtney Kardashian lifestyle. Yeah. She's like the Gwyneth of Lembert. Sprinter. I don't know where that falls into this.

I feel like. I don't even know if when Kylie posts sprinter, if people buy it, honestly. Yeah, but yeah, I don't even know. Even though I think it's doing well. That's about. But then Chloe also shared in her Q&A that she has a frozen embryo that she's considering having another baby either on her own or with her next partner. But does that mean an embryo is like has a dad? Yes.

So it's Tristan's. Oh, yeah. So she's another partner. But it would still biologically be Tristan's. I just feel like he's messed up so much. He's not allowed to like say, you know? It's so true. Like it's her embryo, period.

Yeah, yeah. I guess that's fair. Yeah. And he has like a lot of kids. Yeah. So I actually don't feel like he's that precious. Yeah, literally. But she said that she wants to give True a sister.

And she thinks like, you know, she's obviously grew up with sisters and one brother. So she doesn't feel like Tatum needs brothers because Rob didn't have brothers all as well. But that she really feels like True needs a sister. And so she contemplates like, you know, unfreezing that embryo. I know. I feel like she had such a bad experience with surrogacy. that I don't know if she would do it again. Yeah.

I feel like that's probably something that plagues her. But maybe having like her expectations now. Having done it already. Yeah. And having done it like she maybe do it differently and whatever about it that she didn't love. She could change. But and she said True knows that she has a frozen girl in the, she tells people that she has a. Her sister's in the freezer.

Like Elsa. Yeah. That's cute. But that would be interesting. But I also feel like it's maybe a little different because True's growing up with her cousin so closely. She's one of the triplets. She's one of the triplets of shy, dream and true. Yeah.

And then there's storm blue. And they're just, I feel like they have that sisterly. They go to like the same. I think they're in like a homeschooling cohort where like they made their own school. And so it might not be like what Chloe grew up with, but it's akin to sisterhood. I agree. Like I think True would be okay. Yeah.

But I think it's more so like maybe Chloe wants more kids. Does Chloe want more kids? Is Chloe going to date? Like. I find it so excited. when they have more kids. I know. I'm like itching for one.

You just had one. No, for them. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no. No. I'm in for them, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

And like, of course, I don't want to put pressure on Kylie and Timothy. No, that's definitely happening. Yeah. His partner. His partner. And she wants a lot of kids. I just know he watched her in that movie, which is like definitely like a term movie, but like her. No, but for his sort of people, I think it's like the 824, A-24.

824. It's the highest honor. I think he saw that and probably cried. Like, it was so impressive. That's his queen right there. Big time queen. BTQ. So I won't put pressure.

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So when we saw them recently, they said, you know, we'll take Romeo home with us. And you know what? I said no. I said no. I feel like I'm really feeling back to myself. he's not bothering me nearly as much. As he's getting older, like he is becoming less annoying. Still not perfect, of course.

But I feel like, I think also now maybe like knowing I have the real option to re-home, like I'm open more to, you know, life's possibilities. But yeah, not to brag. But did they say like we'll take him or like we want him? Both. They want him. Yeah. I know that they like, you know, want him.

I feel like if they really, really want him, well, then who are you to deny them? Right. But for right now, like, I think I'm okay. Okay. Yeah. Maybe when we get back to the city, like I'll start to annoy me again. We'll monitor the situation. But our time here has been really good for me in Roe.

Yeah. Like the Florida son has been good for Romeo. Yeah. For his mental health. And he's just like sort of like stopped, you know? Stabilized a little bit. Stabilized. Perfect word. Our next story. Some crazy news.

Britney Spears was arrested in California for a DUI. Yeah, on Wednesday night. Oh my God. I totally miss this. Yeah. There's not a lot of information, but she was arrested in Ventura County on Wednesday night for DUI law enforcement told TMZ. She was handcuffed by the California Highway Patrol around 9.30 p.m. Wednesday night,

and she was booked by the sheriff's department around 3 a.m. She was released from jail around 6 a.m., according to inmate records. Is there a mugshot? I have not seen one yet, but we are closely monitoring the situation. Jesus. Yeah. What do you have to say? On Free Britney? Like, I don't know. Do you better?

No. This is my take on DUIs is obviously always met with like a stern talking to. But I don't think, you know, I would. and put her in the same basket as Justin Timberlake, right? I just feel like those who freed Brittany, like maybe shouldn't have, you know? Yeah. I feel like it was never really, for me, and like you couldn't say it at the time, right?

Because it was like, free Britney? Yeah, of course. But it was always like, well, I don't think she should be in this conservatorship, but she should be in a conservatorship. Like, and I feel like it's so terrible that like her time in that conservatorship like made her worse. because they were putting her on lithium that she didn't need.

And like, you don't bounce back from that. This is so sad. Mm-hmm. And obviously, like, DUIs are like my thing, but I don't feel like yelling at her, you know? I feel really, I feel like hugging her. Like, this is so sad. Do you know if anyone else was in the car?

No, there's not anyone else that is mentioned. This is just devastating. Yeah. Well, it doesn't sound like she was arrested before she could cause any. Harm. Well, that's always good, of course. That's the number one concern. Yeah, but things aren't like...

Looking good. For Whitney, yeah. Our fifth and final story is my new favorite category of story for Thursdays, and that's Masked Singer Reveal. Oh, yeah, I was keeping up last night, but I didn't know who the guy was. Yeah, me neither. So the eggplant has been revealed as Jack Wagner,

who was the alum from Mowers Place in General Hospital. He's like a 90s actor, like the male Lisa Rinne, I guess. So, like, his trailer was right near mine. this one doesn't hit for me, you know? You don't have anything to share. I'm sure some of the viewers, like, loved him and it was exciting for them, but, like, for me, like, where's Philip Phillips?

The theme was Oz Fest Night, which was not about Wicked. It was actually about Ozzy Osbourne. I'm so glad I missed that. I don't know one single Ozzy. And Kelly Osborne was a panelist. I was talking about Kelly Osborne. On the guest.

You see her at the Baptist, people are really, like, worried about her. Why? She was looking, like, really frail. Because of the face? Face. New face. She looked like the same, like, she looked like her mom.

And her mom's much older. 30 years for senior. Well, she was a guest panelist last night for Ozfest. I don't know if everyone at the Massinger like hates me because I did quit. But I would love to be a guest panelist. I just want to put that out there. I feel like I would be really good. Yeah.

I don't know if that's not. I think that chip has probably sailed. But if Kelly Osborne can't make it next week, like I am available. Yeah. And what sort of night would you want to judge? Glee night. Is there a glee night? There should be, but there would be a million people they could ask before you.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. There are a million people they could ask before me who would say no, but I would say yes. No, but there are some that would say yes, you know. Yeah. There are a couple that would definitely be a lot. I would love to, if there was like a Broadway, like musical theater, I would love to do that one. A lot of people, yeah. So we need to. So what?

If there's a song, if there's a night a week where they sing my songs. No, or like a week of like a pop culture week or something. Yeah, yeah. Podcast week. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. So, yeah, we're getting closer to the end. I'm really, really excited to see who wins.

I'm excited to get confirmation. Also, someone gave another good clue about Pugaso. Pablo Picasso, Philip Phillips, P. Matt a marble. Flip it around. Philip Phillips. Exactly. Yeah, no, that was a good clue.

Like right in front of our eyes, too. Yeah, sort of like Queen Corgi. Right. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. So you watched Mass Singer and Southern Time last night. Kind of a busy night for you. I didn't watch Mass Singer, but I am keeping up with the reveals.

Me too. Me too. I'm really interested to see who is competing alongside my sister, who I adore, and I just am very interested in everything to do with it. It's all about your adoration. It is. I mean, would I be sharing Masked Singer reveals every week? I was not being facetious. Like, I'm so involved.

Why are you attacking me? I was saying it. I felt like you didn't feel like I was being genuine when I was. I think you're projecting. I've never ever, I don't even, I never even clicked Masked Mass Singer reveals before my sister was on the show. I agree. Like, I'm agreeing with you. I wonder why he was the eggplant.

I think we need to know more about Josh Self. Was that the same? I think we need to know more about Jack Self. That's kind of a crazy one. You would think it would be like a porn star. Okay. I guess also if you were cream, it could be a porn star. Creamy girls.

Are you going to do the Southern Charm recap or not? I know you really want to hear it. I actually don't because not to, I have to say this every Thursday. day. As somebody who knows Craig Conover in real life and knows he's a good person, like, I can't be swindled by what's going on in this show. Like, that's my friend. So here's what's going on. It's a fallout from the night of Craig Yellas. La La La La La La La La La. I have some things that I want to share. So he yelled at Sally all night long in the car. And the thing is like she did antagonize him, but like you shouldn't let it go like that to anyone, let alone a woman in a

combined space for an hour long car where they can't get out. And he's just like yelling obscenities at her. They were drinking for 12 hours all day. So the circumstances for which it happened are not good and it should never have happened. However, now it's the next day and it's like, let's deal with what's happened and let's try and make it right.

You know, like an apology can go a long way. I mean, look at us in Hillisholosman. Right. The next day, everyone's just sort of like, yikes. And it's like, has anyone heard from Craig? And he's just like in his room till 3 o'clock where he goes and has lunch with Whitney. And I just want to say the star of last night's episode.

It was between Shep and Whitney. Whitney is so growing on me. Wow. He's so, like, hysterical some of the things he says. Zach was, like, cracking up. And I don't know if I'd just never, like, seen him in this light, or he's just, like, he's barely on the show. But when he is, he's just, like, funny.

A delight? Not a delight, but, like, just, like, funny and weird. And you can appreciate him for who he is. So he's having a good showing, as is Shep, because he's just, like, I've been where Craig is, like, the morning after, like, hating yourself. He's like nobody's mad at Shep at Craig right now than Craig. Then Craig is.

So I just want to like be there for him. He needs support and he needs his friends. And like it's just the worst feeling in the world. Now unfortunately Craig's not really like projecting that, you know, much. Apologeticness and shame as he should. And you must humble yourself always. And he was like, you know what? I obviously like I reacted too much.

I shouldn't have done that. And Whitney is like to him, you know, maybe you should apologize. And Craig's like to who? like to who? Lal la la la la la la la la la la la la la Sally Austin Where do we begin? Charlie's done with him by the way

She was in the car And they were like you know They had something nice budding And part of Craig's grievance with Sally Is like Sally's completely coming in between Charlie and Craig And she is she's like Charlie why don't you tell me about your relationship And meanwhile she's like

Craig's the worst person So of course like her best friend disliking the man she's interested in Has made their relationship slow to progress But again you don't break someone in the car for an hour And so now Charlie saw this very ugly side of him and she's like, I'm done. And I can totally understand that. They barely even, they have only kissed and it's like, I just saw the worst side of you.

Like, why would I ever want to get into a relationship? Take it further. So then they did this like big healing thing. They all were in like a sweating tent. That was the whole point of the trip. No, no, no. They went to Mexico like for this wellness trip. And like the last day.

Yeah, they were in a yurt, sweating it out. I love a yurt. Of course, Whitney did not sweat it out because Whitney said he hates hippies. He said he like went to a hippie school growing up. And that's why he hates hippies and he's turned to punk rock instead. So he's just like on the outside judging everything. But at the end he like does come in like for one big jump, which is just funny. So they're all sweating it out.

And everyone I think it's very cathartic moment. And even like Craig and Vanita they wound up at like holding hands because of the exercise. And it could have been a moment of forgiveness. And I feel like Craig has sort of missed his opportunity to a pop. apologize. And like, he, he needs to apologize because his behavior was totally wrong. And he's just, like, not seeing that the next day. But I just want to, like, shout out to Shep because I feel like he's really matured over the last year. And he's been such a good friend. I mean, better light than ever. Yeah. Yeah. He's been a good friend to all of the guys as much as he can be.

And, like, gives pretty good advice that he can't take for himself. But I really appreciated his take on, like, yeah, everyone's upset and everyone had, like, a horrible night. But it's, like, easier to be the person who like had a, you know, someone yell at them versus like the next day being the person who feels a lot of like shame and is very isolated. And so I thought Chep took a very mature approach to that. It also seemed like Craig and Austin reached a little bit of a reposhmois during the yurt, but next week is the finale and all goes to shit again.

And hopefully it's never Craig's fault, right? No, but I'll be curious to see if he does eventually like apologize and just own up to his behavior and like the drinking. And it was just, it got to a bad place. I feel like it's fair for him to not be in the best place right now. Right. But he has to like open up and share that with people and not just like push through. Be destructive.

And just justify what he did because that wasn't cool. Well, there's always next week, Craig. I believe in you. Yeah. And sometimes like you need a minute to process. It's not like, you know, and you want the apology to be genuine. So you want the person to feel bad. Immediately after they don't feel back because it hasn't like dawned on them yet.

Like I can give a little more time. But like let's get to that apology. Let's get to that apology. Yeah. How about that apology? Anything on tonight? Yeah, Beverly Hills. Oh, right, and I did catch up.

Beverly Hill. I don't know if I'll be able to watch in between all my reading. I read again last night. Oh, speaking of reading, Redheads will be out today. Wow. It's all ready to go. It'll be up right after this. So go.

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