The Toast - Curmudgeon Critics: Thursday, October 26th, 2023

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday! I am in such a glorious mood! Wow! To what do we owe the pleasure? Well, so many things. One, my move is done. So that stress is off my plate. Two, I'm a naturally happy person.

So when I don't have something like so harrowing and stressful, I'm my gorgeous, glorious, delightful self. But you said you wouldn't be able to be happy until this evening. What sped up your timetable? Well, the home organizers with a good constitution, done and done. They are at my place doing all the unpacking and organizing. So like what's better than things like being taken care of I agree and I'm with my girl Jax and I'm just feeling good I'm so happy for this change of tune really I also hate like when

I come on an episode and I'm not able to like get past my own whatever shit like sometimes that happens where you're just in a mood and it feels like I can't properly like do my job and every single day like I have a million things to do but the one thing I always have to do is you know be myself on the toast and so when my personal angst starts to affect that I get mad at myself. When it starts to Claudia. Claudia. You were a Claudia yesterday. But I came out of it and when I was done I felt so much better. First you were a Claudia yesterday. But I came out of it and when I was done, I felt so much better. First, you were a storm Claudia. All right. Don't put me in another bad mood.

I'm doing my best. What's a nice cloud? You know, a nice puffy white cloud. A summer's day. You're a summer's day. You're a summer's day. Thanks. So I vlogged the whole experience. it is already on patreon I was like let me

get the girlies what they need and the vlog takes a kind of a crazy turn at one point um and I wanted to talk about this on the toast because the more I talk about it the more I get people's experience and feedback and the better I feel so during the vlog Theo was staying with Ben's parents because moving is just like stressful and there was like nowhere for Theo to hang out. And Theo has been like acting a little weird. He appears to have like a leg that's hurting him. And we thought it would go away. And then it didn't.

So Ben's mom was so generous and was like, while I have them, I'll take them to the vet for you. Like, Oh my God, queen. Cause you know, my ass was like never taking him.

And every time Theo goes to the vet, he gets like a checkup of course, but because he's a King Charles Cavalier and they're as a, predisposed to heart problems, they always do like an extra, you know, checkup on his heart. And every time we go, they say no heart murmur. And we're like, great, great, great. This time, of course, busy season, we weren't even thinking about the heart. He, at the age of six, has developed a heart murmur. And this is something, I'm literally going to cry, but I'm really going to try not to. This is something, you know, we grew up with a Cavalier. We know that this is a part of their life.

And that's why we're so crazy about keeping them fit and healthy. So it's always been top of mind. I knew this was something we were going to have to deal with at some point. You know, my delusional dream, I thought it would be 30 years down the road. It's a grade two out of five, which is moderate. And what that means is that either it stays a two, he goes on meds, lives with it, not a big deal, or it's the beginning of like heart problems. So I found out while I was in the movie, in the midst of vlogging and moving,

and I didn't know if I should like include it in the vlog and I like recorded something. And I felt so stupid, like being so upset and recording something, but I don't know, I was like alone and I didn't have anyone to talk to. And I was like in the whole day, every 10 minutes updating the vlog about what was going on. And like, this was what was going on. So I wasn't sure if I was going to include it. And I ended up including it. I'm so glad that I did because so many people reached out to me who have Cavaliers, but who also just have dogs and was like, oh my God, we found out our dog had a heart murmur, like same experience, wanted to die. And he's lived with it completely fine. They told me stories of their

dogs who lived to be 14 and then I spoke to my friend Shannon yesterday not Ford but my friend Shannon from LA who is like a dog professional like she has probably a hundred dogs she's like a foster and she's like oh please I had a dog who showed up at my house 12 years old they told me he was gonna live for another day and he lived four more years like a heart murmur you can live with so I feel actually really glad that I shared it because so many people shared their positive experiences. But that was kind of a turning point in the vlog. Yeah, I would say so. And I think that's also contributed to your mood yesterday.

I know you weren't talking about it on the show yesterday, but you were rightfully torn up about it. But I know our boy is fierce. Our boy is strong. This dry sand. I'm looking at my Theo pillow over there, wishing I had it here to give him a hug, you know? Yeah. I think that, you know, they go on meds and then twice a year you take them to a cardiologist and it should be okay unless he has some crazy. And is just like the beginning he goes a grade two

three four or five like hopefully that's not the case I was prepared for news like this in my lifetime like I knew that this was coming I just wasn't prepared for it to happen on like this crazy busy day where I'm moving and he was going to the bed for something else yeah well that's bad bad news waits for nobody we're with you you. And whatever you need, whatever Theo needs, he obviously gets his health insurance through the toast. So we will provide whatever he needs. Thank you for being, like my employer has been really amazing throughout this whole situation. That's really like all you can hope for.

No, it's true. And like, let's talk about employers that are not like gracious and flexible when something like actually happens to a person. Not enough people talk about that. Like when you work at a corporate job, they have like weird rules like family member death. Oh, was it immediate family? Oh, if not, you get X.

Like it's so weird. Like people are people. Do they have that? I've never thought about it. Yes. Because someone I know just lost someone in their immediate family. I'm like, well, what are you doing about work? And she was telling me that they have like, you know, well, if it's immediate family, you get X.

If it's a grandma, like you get X. But like some people's grandparents are their mothers, you know? Right. So I just think that's like a weird thing not enough people talk about. Like grief when it comes to like, of course, we're always talking about parental and maternal leave, which is so important. So important. We should still keep having those conversations. But like what about grief?

Grief leave. Grief leave leave it doesn't sound right it doesn't we need to come up with another word for it I guess it's like personal time no I think like maybe grievance leave it's just like grief leaf is weird I got it a leave of grievance a leave of grievance yeah like a leave of absence yeah yeah no that sounds really nice yeah but it's just been a crazy few days grief is personal you know that's true some people like want to go back to work almost immediately and then six months time like have a breakdown because they didn't properly grieve so maybe they need that leave of grievance in six months yeah but I understand like the corporation's trying to put together some sort of framework you know like

but they could do better yeah yeah you just gotta they could do better in everything everyone could do better I think uh what can I do aside from us of course what can I do better Jax curbing my moods no because I think that's just the ebb and flow of life you're still human I still want you to be human. No. Because I like it. You look absolutely gorgeous and radiant today. Did you do something different with your fudge? What are you referring to?

No, I didn't. Your skin is glowy. You look almost maybe like you stepped into the sun for 30 seconds. No, still homebound. If anything, last week I was in the sun more because I was walking more. This week I'm not walking so much because I was walking more this week I'm not walking so much because I twisted my ankle can we tell everyone oh my god this is a funny story Jackie twisted her ankle which like I feel like adults don't do and especially I don't think I

feel like sober people don't do like the feeling that I have in my ankle right now like I'm having flashbacks to college I feel like there was a I took a couple nasty spills like in high Jeffrey Campbell heels and like yeah my ankle was twisted for months it felt this way so tell everyone the story about this weekend when you twisted your ankle so this weekend I twisted my ankle being a moron and it's just like completely my fault and like it's something that I look back I'm like oh my god like I mean like I feel red in the face of how stupid I was we were it sounds like you need to unburden yourself yeah but I feel like I did in my personal face of how stupid I was. Jackie, it sounds like you need to unburden yourself. Yeah, but I feel like I did in my personal life,

but I guess on the show. So we were having a family outing and we were parked somewhere and like, there was a really long way around to get onto the sidewalk. I also didn't feel like that route was the safest because it was like, there was cars and everything, but we could just like cross over the grass

to get to the sidewalk much quicker and other people cut through a cut through and other people were cutting through the grass because I thought maybe it's like swampy no or ticks or ticks but other people were cutting through so I was like let's just cut through and it was much like deeper than I anticipated and I twisted my ankle and it was so painful I couldn't even go on I had to walk back to the car and I sat in the car with Charlie the whole time and Zach and- While the family outing. Yeah, Zach and Harry went on the outing.

We like waited in the car for an hour until they were done. Like I literally couldn't move. I'm so sorry about your ankle. Nothing takes a girl out like a sprained ankle. So I had an ACE bandage, which really helped. I'd been wearing that the last few days and my ankle was feeling better,

but I slept on it badly last night. And now this morning it's hurting again. I don't actually understand the science behind an ACE bandage. Like how does wrapping it up help? Like compressing it so it can't, you know, fester and sort of fall apart. I guess.

Like kind of like putting it back together, pushing it inward. Yeah, because you got to wrap it real tight. Real tight. Like the swollenness, you got to push it real tight. Real tight. Like the swollenness. You got to push it in. It really. Honestly the ace bandage really did help.

And I blame Streisand for today's pain. He took up the whole bed last night. Like so my ankle was just like. It went wherever it could. Yeah. I understand. But I still love you Streisand. I love you Streisand.

No hard feelings. Yes I do. By the way. We have an amazing show today. Yesterday we did. Yes I do. By the way we have an amazing show today. Yesterday we did not do Deer Toasters and we're still not doing it today because when we thought all right we have to do Deer Toasters should we do Thursday or Friday. Friday's episodes always feel like a little like lacking substance because nothing ever happens on a Friday. So now we have Friday Deer Toasters which is fabulous. Yeah and I guess we could do a little TV recap today because Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was on.

I didn't finish it because Charlie needed a quiet, calm environment. And like I had to turn the TV off. I didn't even want to, but I had to. He needed a quiet woman. Yeah. And he needed Eagle Woman and you weren't there. Yeah. So we'll do Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap.

I watched it and I also watched Watch What Happens Live, which I have. I mean, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was so boring. I don't know what we could possibly recap, but Watch What Happens Live which I have I mean Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was so boring I don't know what we could possibly recap but Watch What Happens Live was full of intrasante facts okay cool so we'll recap that we've got the fast five stories and I think without further ado we should get into it because I know Turdy's got a busy day I've got a busy day I'm doing another podcast after this whose um it's called what's wrong with me I literally know what it's called it's called what's wrong with me that's actually a good name for a podcast that is a good name for a podcast no honestly maybe Jackie don't say it now because oh I know what I know what it is because why because

now it's like rude I didn't know yeah don't say it but I know what it is and I'm actually really excited I don't do podcasts other podcasts that often I'm very like choosy because, you know, it's a lot to have an hour long conversation with someone. It can be so awkward. But these girls seem great. I'm excited to chat. I am also doing some content after this. Who remembers last year when I met Mark Schoenwetter, the love of my life, who was a Holocaust

survivor. We did like a Hanukkah video series that's how we met we were paired up and because we connected so fiercely last year we're doing it again this year I actually spoke to him last week we did a zoom call um and this year's is actually really funny because Mark has been cooking all week his like favorite Jewish Eastern European dishes and I'm gonna have to try them do you know what he's making I do know what he's making I don't want to spoil it I also don't remember like the entire menu list they asked me like to approve certain things like

there are certain things I will just won't eat like a crepe lox like I'm not eating I actually think you'll like some of it because like probably some of its stuff that we grew up with like is he gonna make a cabbage soup no he he going to make a cabbage soup? No, he's not going to make a cabbage soup. He's making a few like of his cornerstone items. I'm not going to spoil it, but that video will be up soon. I just, any day I get to spend with Mark, a dream. I told Turdy this, but for Shabbat this week, I'm making something I've never made before that I'm so excited.

I don't know why I'm like craving it. No, listen, I'm like craving it no listen just because I think it's gross I don't even know if I've ever had it me neither by the way in my life but I saw a reel a cooking reel of it and what I'm making is beef stew now is it chulent similar chulent like chulent beef stew chili beef stew are all very similar so it's like it's i don't know it's like beef cooked in like a tomato soup sort of thing oh tomato i do like wine so chulent is like a classic jewish dish it's really like a beef stew it's really chunky this is like meat chunks and broth and potatoes has Oh, that's literally chulent. It's not chulent. No, potatoes, carrots, beef in like a stew.

That's chulent. It's a stew. A beef stew. Also known as chulent, the stew of our people. They were making chulent in. Shettle. Shettle. Thank you.

I couldn't think of the word. Well, I'm going gonna make a beef stew because I saw it on a reel so first I wanted to copy the real recipe but the creator doesn't have like a recipe website so I'd have to like keep reading the caption which oh no no so I googled beef stew recipe but I also wanted to put it to the people anyone know of a great beef stew recipe do you want me to check my jay cohen cookbook can check it. I trust him now. Yeah, me too. That I'm actually the first like real meal me and Ben are going to make. Maybe not this Friday because like we're still a little chaotic. Maybe next Friday for Shabbat. I want to make the brisket. I really also want to make the brisket again. And also why I want to make beef

stew. It's like something hearty and warm like that will be really good for my milk supply. Oh, they were on to something in that shtetl. They were onto something because a few weeks ago, my friend Sam had a baby right around when I did. And we were like comparing, you know, pumping amounts. And she was like, oh my God, I got so much this morning. I had beef stew last night. I was like, yeah, like they say like warm food is really good,

like liquidy food. So you got to make the brisket too. I want to make the brisket. Maybe I'll wait till you're back. I'm going to sit and eat make the brisket too I want to make the brisket maybe I'll wait till you're back I'm gonna sit I would love that by myself and if you don't know what brisket we're talking about you have to become a patreon member there are two back to back back to back vlogs for Rosh Hashanah this year Olivia made a brisket Jackie made a brisket Jackie and I like followed this recipe from a cookbook I had just got in PR from Jake Cohen, the TikToker. And honestly, it was the craziest thing ever. But it ended up being the most insanely delicious, amazing thing.

So between the moving vlog, the brisket, it's never a bad time to become a Patreon member. Patreon.com slash the toast. Yeah, good stuff over there. We've got two more episodes coming at you this month. And they are Good Ones podcast episodes for the podcast listeners. Yeah, we had a lot of vlogs this month. My Jackie's children's book vlog for launch week oh my god wait we didn't even talk about how like we're stars on entertainment tonight yeah so last week last week was such

a crazy week because Jackie was here for her book and then everything was happening in Israel and like we like literally didn't know how to function that was was two weeks ago. You were in LA last week. Oh my God. So, uh, uh, entertainment tonight, we had scheduled for them to come to interview us, do like a studio tour, talk about Jackie's book, just talk about the toast. And it was so good. It just came out on digital. I think it airs this weekend. If you go to entertainment tonight, you should be able to find it. We talk about everything, the book, how we started the toast, our favorite guests, our least favorite guests, Ozempic, of course. I can't leave my house

without talking about it. And actually, the first thing in my apartment was Ozempic. The first thing before any of the boxes got there. You had to get it right in the fridge. Right in the fridge.

Priorities. Yeah, well, if that thing drops in temperature, I'm screwed. No, the Entertainment Tonight segment was so good. It was fun. And there's

just like kind of a lot of behind the scenes stuff about your girls that you might not know I feel like everyone knows everything about us but they found like a new fresh angle to keep it fresh 100% so check that out 100% certified fresh what's that rotten tomatoes okay that's what I thought when something's good they call it certified fresh I don't really like to talk about Rotten Tomatoes or give them any sort of credence because I think the entire philosophy of their brand is broken and flawed. No, there are broken people. I mean, that's never been more clear. It's so rigged and fraudulent and they act as if they're the voice of the people

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No, not today. Not today. Not today. Not today. About a similar star, Meghan Markle is thrilled as she nears a multi-million dollar make or a break deal for her podcast. So Meghan Markle is thrilled about being on the verge

of landing her first major deal since parting ways with Spotify, according to a new report. The Duchess of Sussex is- How do they know she's thrilled? Like- Right, I mean, if you're signing a deal, any deal, I imagine you're-

It's thrilling. It's fair to assume. It's fair to assume. But the Duchess is said to be inching closer towards signing on the dotted line for a multi-million dollar contract with amazon's podcast production partner one audible oh oh audible because amazon's podcast like in-house podcast studio is wondering like they own smartless

yeah but audible is amazon yeah but that's audiobooks maybe they're combining their audio department maybe wonder is underery is under Audible. Maybe, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. A source told the Closer UK that the new venture has the power. Oh, the most legit publication in all of UK. The new venture has the power to make or break her Hollywood dream. That's a little extreme. Okay, this article's moronic, but what we are getting away, taking away, is that her podcast is not over. And that she's talking to Amazon. Well, that's weird to me,

because the narrative with the last podcast was that they didn't want to do it anymore, and that's why the Spotify deal ended. Was that the narrative? Yeah, that, like, she didn't fulfill her duties. That's what people were saying and so like they just ended it before all the episodes were contractually all the episodes that she was obligated to do contractually she hadn't even done them that's what they said

interesting so maybe based on based on what I know about the Spotify podcast I would have assumed she wouldn't be doing a podcast anymore right same but Same. But I mean, maybe she liked it. Maybe now she knows like how many episodes she wants to do. Like maybe now that she has her feet wet, she's prepared to like make a deal that will work better for her. I also, I feel like that Spotify deal was very vague. Now, I don't know anything, but it was just like a deal and they had their holiday episode and then she started a podcast. But it wasn't like you're going to start your Meghan Markle podcast.

You're going to give us 50 episodes a year. I think it was kind of just like here you go. Laissez faire. Here you go. And then they were upset that they didn't produce as much as they had wanted. But I mean, obviously, I didn't see the contract, but that's the vibe I got. Because they let them get away with no content for years. I have to imagine that the contract said X amount of episodes.

Like that's just bad legal. I could just see it being really vague. Like because it also like that first show wasn't even part of archetypes. So it wasn't like she had a contract to do archetypes. Right. You know what I mean? They just had a contract to have Megan and Harry on Spotify. I mean, I could truly like wax poetic for hours about like the Spotify exclusive podcast

business model that they did for a few years. I feel like they're not doing it anymore. They took a lot of shows completely exclusively. But recently they released some of those shows like Armchair Expert is now available on a bunch of platforms. I believe Emma Chamberlain's is too and Spotify still like does the distribution and like ad sales like any random I mean any ordinary podcast network would do for a podcast but they're no longer exclusive to Spotify call her daddy is and Joe Rogan is I'm sure there are others but those are the ones that

come to mind but I don't know like business model is like being shaken up now. Yeah. I think they're in a period of transition, a period of flux. I look forward to seeing how it all plays out. Well, I'm moving, so I totally relate to being in like a period of transition. And a period of flux. And flux. And also just having my period.

Well, this is interesting. When I saw the headline, it was like her make or break Hollywood dream deal I thought she might go back to acting okay yeah like that's so dramatic her make or break if there was like a make or break Hollywood dream deal it would have been when she got on Suits so that's over and second of all like she's already like a list permanent I I know. I would think a make or break Hollywood dream deal would be like a three movie deal with Martin Scorsese. Yeah. Or I think what they're maybe going to end up doing,

she goes the route of like Reese Witherspoon and does like, cause they just did like a book club. They're optioning Emily Henry's book, happy place, which I absolutely hated. They're optioning it into a movie. Meet me at the lake. Oh, literally same thing. Okay. Same movie right meet me at the lake oh literally same thing okay okay same thing meet me at the lake yes I liked that book a little bit not uh I didn't hate it um so if she like started a production company and you know option 10 books

like that's a make or break Hollywood you become like Reese right I just I feel like podcasting is not for her and when I think about like what I would see her doing would be more like Joanna Gainesy Oprah like content like we want to see you first of all it's true you're gorgeous lady we want to see you and like we want to see the fashion we want to see the house we want to see the vibes yeah yeah yeah that's so true podcasting is for hiders it's for ugly girls no kidding I'm completely kidding um I agree she's far too beautiful to be like hidden behind a microphone agree and it's also and maybe this was her experience it sounds like such an easy job and I think people underestimate the amount of like labor that's required to put out like a good piece of content even if you have help

so maybe and I think that happens to a lot of people you start a podcast and it's just like it was supposed to be a side thing but it's a lot of fucking work and you have to like leverage leverage your personal relationships to ask people to come on like maybe she don't want to do that it's just it's not as like dumb and simple as I think a lot of people think it is and so maybe that was her experience she was like you know this is like too much work I'm over it but she's going back to it right so that's the surprising piece if true keep in mind this is not a person who needs to work like imminently they have a good amount of money they have a good amount of money they would be okay I think they will they do like need to work a bit no they need to sustain the lifestyle but I also think that they want to be

top of mind relevant like in the press spoken about that helps their other ventures you know yeah you got to have something going on that goes for anyone that goes for the business that's Hollywood baby that's showbiz baby that's showbiz um so let's just hope and cross our fingers it's a vodcast. Yeah. The Spotify one was not. Even though Spotify likes a vodcast. Everyone loves a vodcast. Like we want to see, bitch.

Vodcasting is the new thing. Vodcasting greater than podcasting. We've been doing it since day one. That's the thing about us that nobody ever gives us credits for. The trailblazing effect of our business yeah but we know and that's like all that matters not not are you ready for our next story I honestly and truly am some more memoir news this week we've got another memoir coming out next week I could give you let me think i could give you a million guesses and you won't guess who's right who wrote their memoirs really yeah he's just not someone you think about actually i guess i could give you some roundabout clues

maybe yeah because weirdly when i think of this guy right now like this is what i think of sadly i know there are more obvious clues but this is what I think of. Father of Kim's friend. Lionel Richie. No good guess. Rick Hilton. No good guess. Okay.

I'm going to get it. Father of lifer. Father of lifer. of lifer david foster no father of lifer you might not know this fun fact maybe not henry winkler i knew that and i have a story about henry winkler i don't know i feel like every time he comes up on the toast i've said it he's only come up like once or twice i had a really interesting interaction with Henry Winkler on a flight what happened maybe it'll be in his memoir no literally because it was I think he was really taken by me he gets on the plane and the seat that I was New York to LA the seat that I was sitting in was like the

seat he needed because he was like with a like his family or something and he was like, do you mind switching? I actually ended up getting a better seat. So I was happy to do it. And when I heard it was for a celebrity, I was more than happy to oblige. He was so grateful. Like you would have thought I gave him like the shirt off my back. He was so grateful. And like the whole flight, every time he walked by me, he was like, oh, thank you. Such a nice guy. And we just kind of became best friends after that. So I look forward to reading about it from his perspective. In his new memoir called Being Henry, The Fonz and Beyond. Yeah.

He has like a huge legacy that I'm so unfamiliar with. Yeah. What is The Fonz? I have no idea. To me. It's a show. He's like the water boy. Yeah. But to other people, he's The Fonz? I have no idea. To me, he's like the water boy. Yeah. But

to other people, he's the Fonz. And I think being described as Kim's friend's dad. Right. Zoe, right? Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, he has his memoirs coming out. Why do people call it... Memoirs of a Fonzie. Memoirs of a Fonzie. That would be a better name. But why do

when someone's written their memoirs, why is it plural even though it's a memoir? It's a good question. Maybe because it's like their memories in a book, but it makes no sense. What do you think is the best titled memoir? Besides Girl With No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster. Memoirs of a Shy Sand. No, but like for real. I would need a list. I know you, what Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster. Memoirs of a Shy Sand. No, but like for real. I would need a list.

I know you, what? Because I have an answer. It was Reza Farahan from Shaws of Sunset, Memoirs of a Gay Shaw. Oh yeah. I don't think I've ever heard a better titled book. No, I didn't even hear that. Honestly, like that's the kind of book where it's like you have the title first and then you write the book yes suit the title a hundred percent because I cannot hear the word memoir

without thinking of that film memoirs of a geisha which I've literally never seen I don't even know what it's about you know I it's a book first and I think it's an amazing book I haven't read it or seen the movie and I think that's a book that we should read maybe do it for the redheads it's I'm sure someone in of the four of us has read it but it's historical fiction oh you know what I mean like I actually should read that yeah like memoirs of I always am saying something like that memoirs of a something oh somebody gave me a good uh my friend our friend Joe Grun he texted me because he listens to The Toast and I was saying, what should my next book be called? A Tale of Two Turties.

Which two of these turties? So he's like, you need to have kids. And like, then there's like two turties, like the new mom era and then like the previous whack job turty. Okay. But you really want turty in the title? Like, no, but yes. We'll work on it. Just, it's a starting point.

But speaking of his memoirs, Henry Winkler has written his and he's opening up about rejecting the lead role in Grease. I love these stories. I love these stories. So it only took one word spread across three syllables for Henry Winkler to go down in television history. In his first audition for Happy Days, Winkler dropped his iconic A, which became an immediate signature for his 1950s greaser, Arthur Fonzie Fonzarelli. I guess that's. Oh, so it's Happy

Days. I guess so. But. I'm so unfamiliar. After his effortlessly cool character became a bedrock of the hit American sitcom across the show's tenure. I love the word bedrock. Bedrock. Beans are the bedrock. Right. Winkler found himself paralyzed. This is a People Magazine article that's incredibly well written. Winkler found himself paralyzed by fears of being typecast. Going so far as

to turn down the role of Danny Zuko in 1978's Grease, which was ultimately played by John Travolta, he writes in his memoir. I need to look up what a young Henry Winkler looks like just so I can visualize him as Danny Zuko. Henry said, I was dumb. I spent so much energy, so much time. I spent so many sleepless nights thinking, how do I not get typecast? What would he tell actors facing a similar predicament today? You go with the flow. What you do is you prepare to reinvent yourself. You do something completely different and then come back to center.

I feel like the idea of being typecast, like the predicament of being typecast is such a good problem to have, like such a dream luxury to be like, oh, in so many things as so many popular things as the same person. Like, OK, if you ever get to that point, like a good problem to have. I just looked up a picture of a young Henry Winkler um he looks literally like Danny Zuko his hair is gelled back and he was wearing a leather jacket and I guess that might have been what his character on happy days was like so we didn't want to do another like slick back bad boy thing so I get it and you know what it kind of served him well because my sort of association of Henry Winkler is like family man, cutie, like opposite of Danny Zuko.

So it worked. Yeah, I agree. And honestly, that movie like made John Travolta after Saturday Night Fever. So that was good for John Travolta. It was good for Scientology and I guess good for Henry Winkler. It was meant to be because John Travolta is meant to be Danny Scientology. And I guess good for Henry Winkler. It was meant to be. Because John Travolta is meant to be Danny Zuko. I'm not looking for a different Danny Zuko. I feel like whenever we hear about missed casting news.

Like things that almost. It's always from Watch What Happens Live. Yeah. So I'm glad to have gotten this from another news source. From a primary source. From a primary source. I don't know if I would read this book. I don't think that I would.

I would require too much Googling for me and also it's like I don't even know how happy days was received was it the biggest show on tv I don't know how many seasons it was it was yeah but like if unless you lived it or even remotely familiar with it I don't feel like it would be interesting yeah but then like I read um a memoir last year by Carrie White. She was a celebrity hairstylist like in the 70s, 80s. And you would think like that wouldn't do it for me. But it was so fascinating. Yeah, I remember. It's called Uppercut. I highly recommend.

I like that name. That's a good title. Oh, what's Henry's title? Being Henry. It's a little basic. And then subtitle The Fonz dot dot dot and beyond. If he had played Buzz Lightyear, that would be like better. Did he?

Who plays Buzz Lightyear? I'm trying to think. I know Tom Hanks is winning. Who plays Buzz Lightyear? Tim Allen. Classic. Yeah. Classic voice. light year Tim Allen classic yeah classic voice um well happy for the funds happy for my former seatmate and like it's so good to see him out here like you know doing big why is it memoir season that's a good question well a lot of books do come out before holiday season October November

because that's just good for book sales so I think I do believe that's why another memoir that's really amazing is the camper and the counselor yeah a young girl's struggle it's beautiful to find herself in a whole new world it's kind of a coming of age story it is a coming of age story and I've gotten a lot of feedback from people who it's like this is a great book not even about camp just about like separation anxiety about leaving your parents for the first time to do anything like a sleepover it has Theo needs that book it has eternal lessons yeah it's a universal story it is it really is are you ready for our next story yeah Daniel Radcliffe's Harry

Potter stunt double was paralyzed after Deathly Hallows set accident, and now the two have teamed up for a documentary to tell his story. So Daniel Radcliffe has boarded the upcoming HBO original documentary called David Holmes, The Boy Who Lived, as an executive producer, in addition to being prominently featured in the film as an interview subject. The movie, which is set to debut in November, chronicles the life of Daniel's Harry Potter stunt double, who worked closely alongside Daniel from Sorcerer's Stone all the way to Deathly Hallows Part 1, when he was tragically paralyzed during a set accident.

Holmes broke his neck performing a stunt and was paralyzed from the chest down. The official doc synopsis from HBO reads, the film is a coming-of-age story of stuntman David Holmes, a prodigious teenage gymnast from Essex, England, who was selected to play Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double in the first Harry Potter film, when Daniel is just 11. Over the next 10 years, the two form an inextricable bond,

but on the penultimate film, a tragic accident on set leaves David paralyzed with a debilitating spinal injury, turning his world upside down. As Daniel and his closest stunt colleagues rallied to support David and his family in their moment of need it is David's extraordinary spirit of resilience that becomes their greatest source of strength and inspiration oh my god I literally have chills I chose this story I just want to get credit for it um because I saw it and I was like this is so fabulous you know telling a story that would never get told. I feel like situations like this get buried. Because like Hollywood doesn't want.

Like their practices to be called into question. I love that Daniel Radcliffe is associated with it. One because it'll just get more eyeballs on it. Because that's how the world works. And two I think if he wasn't on it. Depending on how the story is told. Like he could come off almost like a villain. I don't know what happened. But the fact that he's a the world works. And two, I think if he wasn't on it, depending on how the story is told, like he could come off almost like a villain. I don't know what happened,

but the fact that he's a part of it and amplifying the story and he has a friendship with this guy, I think it's fabulous. Yeah, I think it'll be really interesting. I didn't even know this story. I'm not a Harry Potter swirly. So maybe it's known in that community.

But I also feel like there are probably a lot of stories like this that don't get told like this I would do I would watch a documentary on like stunt community in general culture yeah I mean it's definitely a crazy job to choose it's for that thrill-seeking type of guy or gal yeah I it's like the that's a job I could never do I'm like afraid of fucking everything yeah I actually saw a video recently you know how everyone says like Tom Cruise does his own stunts like that just like yeah never meant anything to me I saw the video I think I might have sent it to you because I was so impressed by like what it meant for him to do his own stunts you probably sent it to me on reels after I'd seen it a few times no you sounded

impressed and it was just like him riding a motorcycle off a cliff over and over and over again. Yeah, I agree. Like Tom Cruise does his own stunts. Like those are words that meant nothing to me. Just a couple of words strung together. Especially because I never saw Mission Impossible. Like I don't know what the stunts are, you know. But I agree.

I saw the visual of that. And also him. There's a scene where a plane is taking off and he's like literally holding on to the plane on the on the wing oh my god yeah so I saw that too he's a nut there's literally no reason for that like in this day and age like do it in a studio and get a computer like I Tom Cruise is so interesting and you know what made me think about him the perfect word for him is nutty like he's nutty I was just thinking about him because in Beckham like when the Beckhams moved to America they become friends with celebrities but they keep saying Tom Cruise

Tom Cruise Tom Cruise like as if oh did they I don't even remember yeah like he was always out with Tom Cruise like as if that was like the biggest guy in the world. And like, I guess that he is, he was, no, he's not. He was like back in the day. Cause now, um,

with the internet, like people know things about Tom Cruise, like Scientology. And I think a lot of that came out after he divorced Katie Holmes. Katie Holmes was like who they were double dating with at the time. But like, even every time Tom Cruise comes out with a movie, it's, it's number one. He's like even every time Tom Cruise comes out with a movie,

it's number one. He's like the biggest movie star still. But he just like- He's kind of that definition of like an old school movie star. We don't really have like movie stars anymore because everyone does a million movies on all the streaming. But back in the day, there was a couple movies a year that were the biggest ones. And if there was a Tom Cruise movie, like he was the star.

Like he was the definition of a quintessential movie star. One, he still is. And two, it it's just like it doesn't compute for me just like Tom Cruise does his own sense like Tom Cruise new movie like I just am not paying attention it's not our genre so it was just crazy like it's David Beckham he's coming to America and it's about Tom Cruise so who do you think is like the next tom cruise where it's like every movie is a success i think it's miles teller i feel like top gun was like the actual the passing of the baton yeah but i feel like miles teller will do and has done like more like artsy introspective movies whereas like tom cruise action yeah yeah no like mass appeal there's just action movies

good or bad. Mission Impossible. Like Miles Teller. I guess it's like Marvel. Tom Cruise doesn't get nominated for an Oscar. So I guess it's like Marvel. Maybe like Chris Hemsworth or Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt.

Pratt of the Chris variety. But no, Chris Pratt being a movie isn't a guaranteed box office success. It kind of is. No, it's really not. Why? What recently? Even like his Super Mario. Super Mario.

Yeah, it broke like every record. Yeah, people didn't like it because they don't like him, but it broke every record. That's literally Tom Cruise. I stand by like a Chris Hemsworth. I think it's a Chris of the Pratt variety. Yeah, you're right. It's not like the Oscar artsy,

like good movies. Jurassic World. Yeah, Jurassic World. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a lot of franchises under his belt. Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Claudia,

these two people are the same. But I don't think of Chris Pratt as like so famous as a person. Do you know what I mean? I, like I don't think he gets hounded by paparazzi. I think that if he wanted to, he could. Yeah, maybe Tom Cruise wanted to. Yeah, but now he doesn't.

No, no, no. Interesting. Highway to the danger zone. You know? I do know. Anyways, the documentary on the stunt double looks fascinating. Oh, yeah. We took that really far.

It does look fascinating. And it makes me really like Daniel Radcliffe, like amplifying, you know, the silenced voice of this person. Yeah. Daniel Radcliffe, another one. Let's talk about it. Let's, because I've been dying to talk about it for a fucking minute.

What do you have to say? I don't know. I don't know either. What an interesting fella. You think he's set for life financially? 1,000%. And that's kind of the dream. I know he does like other smaller projects now.

And like. He does, like independence. And like comedy. He kind of can like fuck around and do whatever he wants i feel like he's done like some projects with funny or die yeah he has this show that's like a medieval parody show okay um but yeah he just can fuck around he has mailbox money for life love that you think ron Weasley does? Yeah. And Emma? Yeah. But she continues to work like in mainstream. Yeah but she also chooses like some dogs. Yeah yeah yeah some dogs. Like

she chooses unprofitable things. Not yeah not Beauty and the Beast. Not Beauty and the Beast. But I feel like I don't know why I feel like she didn't want to do it. I'm also so glad you talked about that because I've been dying to talk about it for a fucking minute. And I feel like maybe honestly. Beauty and the Beast is my absolute favorite recent Disney film in like the last 20 years. It's the best one.

Hands down. It's unreal. It's perfection. It's perfection. We've watched it a thousand times. We know everything about it. We watch like the DVD extras. And you're right.

Like Emma Watson has this attitude where she's like clearly doing it for the money and she thinks this is no I don't even think it's for the money like maybe she was blackmailed or something but you just get the sense that she she doesn't want to be there and if you watch the movie now through that lens you will understand what we're saying and I think it's because she's fiercely feminist. And Disney at its basics, especially that film, she marries her captor. It's not the most woke, female first, herstory type of film.

But that's why we love it. Right, so it's like, why did she take it? And even when she would do interviews about the role, she was like, I really wanted Belle to be more of an industrial modern woman, can take care of herself independently. So that's why they have that scene of her doing her laundry in an innovative way. No, and that's why I also saw this in a DVD extra. Something that was Emma Watson's idea was to have Belle's like dress that she wears throughout town be hiked up on the side a signal

that she's an industrialist because she can't be walking around town in a dress her dress needs to be hiked up with her boots so that she can you know do her laundry in an innovative way yeah so she does her laundry in an innovative way thus you know flipping on its head the yeah message of Stockholm syndrome in the movie. She's very mechanical that she learned from her father. And I'm just like, so why'd you do it? Yeah, like, let's get a woman in here who doesn't care. Because it just kind of puts this cloud over the movie of like,

Emma Watson hates this movie. Oh my God, you're so right. And like, we know Emma Watson. We know her personality and her values and what she stands for. We know, honestly, like, Belle is different. Like, like Belle's not like that Belle is just a traditional woman who likes to read yeah and like wants to be taken care of yeah she saw that castle she got ideas she was impressed she had ideas so you're right I guess like the one fatal flaw is that Emma Watson's like personality really doesn't align

with the character of Belle and she doesn't do a good job of hiding it yeah yeah like Emma Watson is just one of those girls and I feel like I'm talking I always talk about them like this new modern wave feminism who like wears t-shirts that say you know the future is is hers her story the future is female it's very like performative in my opinion like white woman's activism and doesn't actually move the needle and those people like don't actually support women um this is like my that's just my I don't know if that's true about Emma Watson that's just how I receive it that's that sort of activism and it doesn't align with like the Disney of your no it doesn't she tried to like make it something that it's not okay Belle did her laundry cool

right Belle's skirt was hiked up a little bit cool but like not in a provocative way Tried to like make it something that it's not. Okay, Belle did her laundry. Cool. Right, Belle's skirt was hiked up a little bit. Cool. But like not in a provocative way. No. In an industrial way. No, and in like a signaling way. So that you. Oh yeah.

So that you, eight-year-old viewer, know she's not like other girls. And then there's that scene where her dad is, you know, being crazy Maurice. And he's putting together some piece of technology with gears and ships and he can't figure it out and in two seconds Belle comes over and she's like father she flips the little gear flips the switch now it works she's brilliant that Belle she's brilliant that Belle so Daniel Radcliffe doesn't have to work right that's where that's what we were going and until i experience harry potter which i do believe like as a boy mom that's in my future 100 so that's why like i'm not gonna clown on harry potter i just like kind of take a step back and i'm like i don't

know anything but i look forward to entering the world because i think once i do i'll be obsessed and also ever since someone told me that i'm a raclaw and explained the traits of Ravenclaw girl I'm a Ravenclaw I was told I'm a Gryffindor I think you are a Gryffindor like affable you're such a Ravenclaw and I literally don't even know but I know they probably read they're like independent thinkers like question everything that's come to their own conclusions you Gryffindor is like very affable is the vibe yeah I'm definitely a Gryffindor um all I know is that if somebody calls you a Slytherin like they hate you and they think you they think of you like an extremely low do they not hate you more if they call you Hufflepuff

I just think like and maybe I I have a of knowledge. I just feel like if you call me Hufflepuff, like you're calling me fat. One thousand percent. One thousand percent. And I don't know, but it's just the vibe. Yeah. Like Hufflepuff is like. It's puff. It's chubby.

And from like the few moments I have seen of Harry Potter, like I just remember like one Hufflepuff character that was chubby. Yeah. No, that's definitely facts. I'll need to look more into it. I can't imagine it's a whole house of chubby people. If I have to imagine like Hufflepuff, it's Bruce from Matilda. It's like that more chubby, affable type of person, but who's severely underestimated intellectually,

if I had to guess. Got it. And Gryffindor is like that affable, of person but who's severely underestimated intellectually if I had to guess got it and Gryffindor is like that affable kind of like color war captain vibe main character energy color war captain yes yeah Slytherin is like really smart intellectual who uses their powers for evil yeah and blonde or if you're blonde and yeah of course and I think Ravenclaw is the opposite of that like really smart intellectually but you use your power yeah of course and I think Ravenclaw is the opposite of that like really smart intellectually but you use your power for good and like you think critically that's why yeah our girl is Ravenclaw I've seen definitely like Chamber of Commerce whatever that first

movie's called Chamber of Secrets Secrets and I definitely saw the second one and that's it and I was shocked to find out actually because I because I never fully kept up with it, that Robert Pattinson plays a critical role in a later film. Twilight wasn't his first franchise. He's done this before. I think I've seen this film before. And I didn't like the ending. I've actually, I think I have seen a couple Harry Potters

just because like, you know, at camp we had to go see a movie, Harry Potter. Yeah. There was one. Ben's obsessed. There was one with a tree,

a big tree. It was spooky. Sorcerer's Stone? I don't know. Let me try and guess the names of the Harry Potter movies. I know Chamber of Commerce and I know Sorcerer's Stone.

I know those are the first two. I believe those were two that I saw. I now know Deathly Hallows. I guess it was part one and two because we just read this article that was definitely okay so that's first two and second two and there's seven movies there are so we need them the middle what's also crazy is that in the UK they're called something different I believe Sorcerer's Stone is called Philosopher's Stone worst namest name. I think so. Like, where did I, Harry Potter, Philosopher's Stone. I feel like one of the films has the word portal in it. Like, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

Yeah. Oh, you know, I think I saw that on, like, a first edition, like, website where you could, like, buy Harry Potter books. Let's go through them. See if they ring a bell. Chamber of Commerce. Harry Potter. The complete collection on eBay.

Sorcerer's Stone. Chamber of Secrets. Prisoner of Azkaban. Yeah. Oh. Classic Prisoner of Azkaban. Harry Potter and the Goblet of fire i'm familiar harry potter and the order of the phoenix i don't know familiar harry potter and the half-blood prince oh i know

him i know him less and then harry potter full collection going for on ebay and the deathly hollows let's see this This one's $50. For seven bucks? Yeah. One to seven. It's like not a bad price. No, but why would you buy this on eBay and not Amazon? No, it's a good point.

Especially it's not like first edition or anything. Actually, I think it's like a better price than Amazon. Yeah, I guess if you're trying to be like sustainable. Trills. Trills. And this is definitely a better price than Amazon you're getting a deal here I just assume because it's on eBay it's going to be like more antique yeah first edition

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because it always comes out again in November. Oh, does it? Yeah. Oh, I'm excited. So the final season part one comes out November 16th part two comes out on December 14th. I don't know if that means like there's just two long episodes or what have you but the. Wait what? Part one of the final season. So is it like five episodes and five episodes ten episodes and ten episodes one episode and then one? No,

that's not the point of the story. Just because you have the iPad, I thought you're like, no, I mean, I, that's not the point of the story. So they just like drop that confusing tidbit,

which I, I then had to like relay as if I understood as an expert. But the point of the story is that the crown creator, Peter Morgan reveals how queen Elizabeth's death changed the show's ending. So Peter Morgan, the mind behind the crown, explained to Variety in the new interview that he was compelled to change direction with the hit television show as a result of the queen's death. He said, we'd all been through the experience of the funeral. So because of how deeply everybody will have felt that I had to try and find a way in which the final episode dealt with the character's death even though she hadn't died yet so that is it right because we're saying goodbye to her like forever and the show will end in 2005 he said it was important wow to keep the cut off to keep it

historical not journalistic so it stops almost 20 days before present time. This last season. 20 years. Yeah, 20 days. Lol. This season will delve into Prince William navigating life in the wake of his mother's death, the marriage of Charles and Camilla, the early stages of William and Kate Middleton's relationship, and the relationship between Diana and Dodi Fayyad ahead of their fatal car crash in Paris.

No, and who just died? Mohamed Fayyad, right? Yeah. Dodi died in the car right oh and then Mohammed died yeah I guess just recently like a year ago right I love the actor who plays him I don't know what Mohammed Fayed was like in real life but he's so fucking funny so affable in the show uh no I relate to him like all he cares about is fame. And he's like, I have endless amounts of money. Get me fame. And not even just fame.

Get me to the queen. Yeah, no, he had big dreams. I'll buy this house for the queen. Yeah, I'm obsessed with him. Now, I love the crown and I love royals and I love, you know, modern royals. But I feel like the beauty of the crown for me was learning so much about a time before I was alive and the crazy things that happened in the royal family, but also in England and in the world. So I feel like a little fatigued by modern, like the Diana years.

I feel like there's been so many documentaries and films and I feel like we're always talking about Diana with Harry and Meghan. So I'm a little, I'm a little Diana-era fatigued. But I'll still watch it and love it. But I think I'll probably end up, when I rewatch the whole series in 10 years, really preferring the earlier seasons. Yeah. And like the creator said, we're getting into a territory where it's like,

the history hasn't been written. It's a little bit disputed. It's a lot of like, he said, she said. So I am, I think the 90s portion will continue to be very interesting especially like how Charles navigates being with Camilla I don't really know even that all that stuff about like the phone call and the tampon I didn't know any of that so to me that was still like things in which I didn't know I do look forward to seeing the portrayal of William and Kate just because that's always fun yeah but no but the best part

of the crown is like literally after the episode googling and being like oh my god this these things really happen uh princess and getting her toes sucked on the beach but I think like up until 2005 for me personally so I would have been 13 like I still wasn't paying that much attention let alone to like the royal family I didn't have a care in the world yeah no that's fair unless they were meeting the Spice Girls then I care which they were then I wonder if the Spice Girls would be in. You know how sometimes they just like put. Yeah, like Jackie Kennedy was in an episode. Random like celebrities, real people who met the queen.

Yeah, so I'm really excited for the final season of The Crown. It is still my dream for the next Crown to be like a Crown prequel. And to be about Queen Victoria. Oh, I would like that. They should do like more crowns, but just go back further. No, I totally love or different countries. They could do Sisi. Russia.

They could do Russia for days. Right. That's the, wait, don't tell me. Romanovs. Just wait till you't tell me. Romanovs. Just wait till you get sucked into the Romanovs, Turdy. No, it's in my future.

I'd love that for you. Yeah. Even though there was an episode of The Crown. Yes. About the Romanovs, and it ended, it seemed that the Romanovs ended poorly. I can't imagine a worse fate.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were they Jewish? No Oh okay I'm conflating two historical moments Certainly not a friend to the Jews Oh so I don't really care how their fate was

Yeah that's always like I'm obsessed with Russian history I know And all the czars And then it's like I'll read about them And it's also glamorous and interesting And it's like

But then like the way they treated their Jews Is literally why we live in America now like that's where our family hails from as Russian girlies ourselves so um it's it's hard to you know balance but I just keep it separate no that's just whenever as like a Jewish person or even like any person who's a conscious adult who knows about the holocaust but especially as a Jewish person when I get into something historical that's not like world war ii like Downton Abbey, it starts in 1912. I'm like, well, what were these peeps doing in 1939? And they never get there in Downton Abbey. I think the shows, then the movie ends. It's like- 27 is the first movie.

Right. So maybe we're at like 1930. I don't think they'll get there because it gets dicey, but it does, you know, beg the question. I always think like when we get there because it gets dicey but it does you know beg the question i always think like when we get there cora from downton abbey is jewish so you know maybe she is no but maybe that's why engaging in like british history is enjoyable because they never became nazis that's so true you can root for them they didn't become nazis but they experienced the war the world war nazis the whole time. Right. They were good people. Yeah.

So you can always root for them. So I'm not worried about, you know, what Robert Grantham was doing. Like he was fine. Oh, that's true. I guess like Cora's not going to get taken out of her house by a Nazi because the ledger says she was Jewish. Right. Because they never made it over.

They protected. Yeah. Um, and even in Downton Abbey, Robert Grantham actually does like mention Hitler once because of Edith's husband who went to Germany. The Marquess. No, Edith's husband. Oh, Michael. Michael went to Germany and disappeared. And they were talking about the brown shirts.

And Hitler. And they were like, there are these guys, they wear brown shirts and they are mad. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So that was like a little easter egg so such a good point um so what was i saying so yes so the romanovs and it's like every czar some were terrible and then you know one dies and the next one's like what's it gonna be for the jews right you were saying um though that the crown should do other generations and other countries

yes other generations would love other countries would love really crown should do other generations and other countries. Yes, other generations would love, other countries would love. Really, someone should do something extensive on the Romanovs because there's so much there. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I feel like I've watched everything that I can. There's a really good documentary on Netflix, but it's not like scripted or anything. And I know there's that one show with Elle Fanning that I didn't like.

Please don't tell me to watch it. The Grit. Catherine the Great. It's called The Grit. Yeahning that I didn't like. Please don't tell me to watch it. The Grit. Catherine the Great. It's called The Grit. Yeah. And it's not good. Sorry. I watched actually weirdly the first episode.

Did you like it? No. She goes and just gets in the first episode like married off. Yeah. Right? To marry. But it's not good. They try to make it like comedy.

It's funny. Please don't tell me to watch it. I've tried. I've tried. She tried. It should be something I would love yeah that's how bad it is yeah our fifth and final story is like a little bit of viral news you know us we love to talk about what everyone's talking about yeah and there's a list of places

going around that women refuse to go on a first date okay Okay, so this all started on TikTok. Let me explain because I know you don't know. This woman went viral for making a TikTok in her car about this first date she was going on and the guy took her to the Cheesecake Factory and she's like, are you fucking kidding me? She was very funny, but it sparked a debate about like, if someone took you to the Cheesecake Factory,

would you be upset? So here's a list of places women refuse to go on a first date and let's discuss and real as much as I love the cheesecake factory and I would love to say like you know if someone took me there on a first date that would not be a deal breaker if they took me there on a first date like in a serious way I think it's so hard for like a blank to make a blanket statement on a place because first of all where do you live that's the big question in a lot of places like the cheesecake factory is the only you know nice sit-down restaurant for miles so circumstances socioeconomics like there are a lot

of different factors yeah so are you answering the question like broadly or as you yourself so okay let's set the scene I met this guy on an app he barely knows me like it's not someone who knows that I love the Cheesecake Factory because like if Ben took me there I'd be like yes he barely knows you you live in New York City or you live in like a smaller city I don't know if I live in the city it makes sense. There's 1,000 restaurants before I get to a Cheesecake Factory. Right, Cheesecake Factory is actually inconvenient. Logistically.

Yeah, it's outside of the city. It's in Jersey City. Okay, let's go through the list. One, Cheesecake Factory. Two, I would be okay with it. They serve alcohol. It's a nice, like, I really would, for real. Two, Applebee's.

Okay, it's less nice. It's like I really would for real. Two Applebee's. OK, it's less nice. It's more of a neighborhood spot. There's a lot of like sports teams, you know, after school little leagues that go there. Maybe not. Where was where do we go after Coachella? Was that Applebee's? Applebee's. It was fantastic.

Yeah, but we went at midnight. That's true. It was like. So it was like a lit after like it's like a drunk munchie. Got it. Three Chili's like a drunk munchie. Got it. Three chilies. It's a little pedestrian. For a first date.

Yeah. When you're trying to, you know, woo. Impress. Fine and dine. But again, like it just depends on the person. Like living in New York, you have elevated dining. So of course a chain like Chili's isn't considered fine dining. It's not considered fancy,

but in different parts of the country, like I just feel like this conversation isn't fair. Yeah, it's like in Glee when they go to breadsticks. Exactly. Like, by the way, perfect example. The next one I actually think is a hard note, no matter what, and that's Chipotle. It's a hard note, no matter what.

You know, they do serve beer and some wine some alcohol but like that is just not a romantic vibe even no and a lot of their seating is barstool high tops with no backs like Olive Garden which is the next one like that could be more romantic agreed Olive Garden's okay the movies agreed no matter who you are where you're from yeah first date because you're supposed to get to know someone not sit in silence for three hours seven your house agreed first date agreed agreed as in yes or no no no you don't go to someone's house on the first date in this climate that and also like take me out yeah yeah not i mean ate any fast food chain yeah nine buffalo wild wings I don't know it's like a cute sports bar like I think it's okay too 10 wing stop I've never been

very similar to buffalo wild wings like sports bar energy I think it's fine 11 red lobster sports bar energy i think it's fine 11 red lobster totally fine it's elevated fine 12 a buffet the golden corral i agree yeah no that's not the vibe no it's not romantic and you really can't load up like you would want to it's so true it's like a waste of money to pay for the buffet because you can't like you know throw dinner rolls in your purse 13 IHOP only because it's breakfast breakfast is not date date is like you know low the lighting is lower it's a little bright in there do they serve alcohol even no yeah I think you have to have a liquor license i agree 14 denny's same thing yeah 15 the gym duh oh i didn't even know

that was up for debate 16 interesting church say it was temple um i think if that's your lifestyle that's actually incredibly sweet as long as we're gonna get a bite after agree. As long as we're going to get a bite to eat after. No, and as long as we're on equal playing fields, like if this person's really, you know, very religious and the person, you know, going out on the date is not, like don't take me to your church if I don't like pray or if I don't ever go. But if these are two church-going peeps, that's lovely. Yeah, but we do have to get a bite to eat after.

It's undebatable. Isn't it like going to the movies? Yes, but it's a little bit different because you're connecting on a spiritual level yeah you're not talking you're getting to know each other it's a it's different than the movies but it's similar 17 starbucks agreed no 18 coffee dates agreed like that's not a romantic date and certainly not a first date actually I don't know people do like coffee dates it's like a quick way like let's see if we even like connect on the smallest level and then we'll take it out for real it's kind of a good but that's like what going for a drink is for and I just feel like coffee if you're really in a place where like you're just like grabbing

coffee to see if you're even like this person like you must be going on so many dates like it should be a little special thing it should be special it becomes a little kind of um coffee date is like you can't drink coffee past five o'clock so like we're just meeting in the middle of the day like can't we have something special yeah if we're meeting in the middle of the day for 30 minutes and like you know it's our lunch break from work it's it's like what just so I could get a look at you to say yay or nay I feel like that's like very serial dating shallow yeah yeah it's like speed dating almost and I don't think that's the way to be even though I do think you should go on a lot of dates if you're looking for a partner but like not like that yeah ice cream dates cute but even though it feels like a second half of a date not yeah you know it's like a but I don't know strolling around

a small town with an ice cream cone sitting on a bench that's cute actually and that's a that's a good like low budget and also and I don't mean low budget in a negative way I mean like if you're going on a lot of dates you don't spend a hundred dollars every day the stroll if they were just sitting in the ice cream shop eating their ice cream and then going home it's not enough no but there are definitely ways to do dating on a budget and I think you know walking around a park at twilight getting ice cream sitting like that's cute walking yeah with like a little food truck maybe yeah yeah yeah or an ice cream truck yeah exactly next family functions agreed no agreed uh next movie night Netflix Hulu agreed no because that also you have to be

at their house next somewhere that requires a long drive agreed no yeah uh next bowling i think bowling's okay it's like a fun activity to get to know someone they sell liquor there yeah i think it's i actually i thought that was gonna be on the list and I would disagree with just two people yeah it's not as fun next nightclub agreed next hookah bar agreed next a bar for just drinks disagree totally fine next waffle house no next sports events it's kind of like a movie. But yeah, it's better. I think it's okay.

It's okay. That's kind of nice if someone takes you to a sports event. They like care. It's if both people are really into sports. Yeah. It's a common ground to connect on. And it's like. That was a good story.

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