The Toast - Dakota Johnson Is Drowning Too: Monday, August 19th, 2024

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, everyone. Hope you had a gargi-pargi weekend. It definitely wasn't as gargi-pargi as ours, but that's okay. Ours was incredibly gargi and pargi. We concluded the Gizno in Atlantic City. It was a gargi-pargi Gizno. It was.
Starting point is 00:00:14 And in a gargi-pargi weekend and a gargi-pargi summer, the Gizno in Atlantic City was unlike any other as to be expected. And we were really annoying, like, you know, in the weeks leading up, being like, something major is happening at Just No AC. You might want to get a ticket if you're on the fence because we're doing something major. And as we had said, we weren't lying. Something major occurred.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Yet, that's right. A swirly got engaged at our show. Like, when I tell you this, P-Jum reached out to every email he could find. I don't know how he got it. He got Margo. He DM'd everyone. He wanted this so bad. He's like, listen, my girlfriend's going to be at the show.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I think, like, she would die. And Jackie and and i we get asked to do stuff like this a lot yeah and it's like if you do for one person you have to do it for everyone and it like usually doesn't feel right but in this particular scenario it was right place right time it was perfect like the final jizz no and the more we learned about you know brian and eliana it was just we had to do it and it was so iconic and it was seriously like the best moment of my life I don't know if she like had an inclination I think when she said she didn't I think when she got brought up on stage she had no idea what was about to happen and then when we blindfolded her she was like no I think she thought we were like doing some
Starting point is 00:01:17 hijinks for our crazy show not that like her man was side stage waiting for her I really don't think that's what she thought and I just want to say like this is I mean we don't have any more gizmos planned but this isn't going to be like something we do at every giz. I really don't think that's what she thought. And I just want to say like, this is, I mean, we don't have any more Giznos planned, but this isn't going to be like something we do at every Gizno. So I don't want like girlies with boyfriends to buy a ticket being like, okay, maybe this is my time. No. And also we couldn't do it again
Starting point is 00:01:33 because the surprise is ruined. If we ever invite someone on stage, they're going to think they're getting engaged. So that's why it could only be a one-time thing, a moment in time for Eliana. No. And Atlantic City is very much like a mini Vegas. So it was very much giving, you know, going to the chapel,
Starting point is 00:01:46 gonna get married. You know, if we were in Vegas we would have then driven them to the chapel. Driven? We would have gotten ordained and done
Starting point is 00:01:52 a live wedding. Yeah. Yeah, you mean it, Brian? Really want to marry Eliana? How about you? I'll talk. Do it right now. It was so cute.
Starting point is 00:01:58 It was such a great show. I love Atlantic City and the Swirlies were out. Yeah, it was a great environment. It was an amazing way to wrap up the jizz now. We have officially, you know, done the jizz now has run its course. You know, I was thinking we don't have any live shows planned and like literally not, but I'm sure we will do more in the future one day.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Are we going to, you know, call it the jizz now? And that's why I love the name Girly Swirly's Night Out, because whenever we do it, wherever we do it, it will be a night out for the Girly Swirly's. So i love that it's not topical it's not like an inside joke that's just now like girly swirlies night out is eternal okay we could even like go back to the same city and do a girly swirlies night out and because the show is different every time like it's not stand up it's not a certain tour it's about the night of nights. The night of nights tonight. Not only did kind of Jizno take over our weekend, it was very much like half Jizno, half Love is Blind UK. I saw, I think actually, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:53 I've seen a lot of people watching it and I'm telling you like our sister Olivia made it go viral because it like, it is slowly picking up steam and it's not as popular as I think a lot of the other Love is Blind seasons that are here in America. Let me tell you how much I love Love is Blind UK for the cast. Like I love, but I think it's a better show than the US for so many reasons. Cause then we were like, we caught up on all the episodes last night. We're like, let's watch like a season of Love is Blind US. We haven't
Starting point is 00:03:17 seen. We're obviously like obsessed with Love is Blind. Immediately different, like immediately disliked it. Let me tell you. We turned houston for three minutes and we're like no they shove nick and vanessa lachey up your asses like why i didn't even realize so emma willis and what's his name mr her husband they're like i don't even know who they are they're like uk celebrities they were on episode eight we have seen them four times it is so little and it's so nice the show does not need a host and I just think Nick and Vanessa Lachey comparatively like have annoying personalities compared to these other two who are honestly very demure and very mindful so that's off the bat I was like okay this is so much more civilized like thank you and Love is Blind UK I'm not sure if it's because they cast people a lot older than
Starting point is 00:04:00 they do in the US or because this is just a cultural difference between the U.S. and the U.K. Like my one of my biggest critics and some of the reasons why I find myself unable to watch Love Island Love is Blind U.S. is because people on the show like seriously don't say anything like they have these long conversations in the pods and their sentences. If you look at it it's word salad. It's like they just use the word connection. Every other word is like and I know. And also at the end of the day. Yes. And I know me saying that is like, you know, ironic, but I'm not on TV. But it's absurd. It's insufferable.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And it's like really not. And that's I think the first season of Love is Blind U.S. is different from that. Like I don't when I'm talking about Love is Blind U.S., I'm obviously not talking about season one, which was just so important to me and precious. But people from the UK and that's I'm not sure if it's because there are people on there who are almost 40. So they're just like a lot older and wiser or culturally but people from the UK and that's, I'm not sure if it's because there are people on there who are almost 40. So they're just like a lot older and wiser or culturally, like people from the UK speak differently because they're all so eloquent. They all like are saying stuff. I'm like, Oh my God, like, wow, those are sentences. Like, and I feel like I'm actually
Starting point is 00:04:56 really getting to know the people. And I'm really not sure if it's a cultural difference or cause people on love is blind. US like 23 no you know tim is 38 i think it's cultural first of all i don't think 38 i think that's a red flag too like there's a sweet spot of age for this show just based on like you know where you're looking what you're where you're at in your life and so like a 38 year old man who's like never been married who all of a sudden is wants to get married in one month like a red flag sorry um I do I've never had an issue with the ages of love is blind us I do think though for us it's more enjoyable to watch British people talk because they have their slang and words that don't mean a lot but for us it's
Starting point is 00:05:35 like new and we don't know what it means and we just think they're saying something like when they say cracking on and those sorts of things and here those words we know them and we know them to be dumb yes but I don't that's not what I'm experiencing. Like, I'm not like enjoying, I'm actually, I would say I understand 99% of what they're saying. No, I understand what they're saying, but when they do speak dumb, it sounds better than here. For sure. I don't think they're speaking dumb. I think if they are speaking dumb, it's 10% compared to 100% in America. Like, and I felt like myself getting less interested when I watched the US seasons because I'm like, what the hell are these people saying?
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's just like, it's like reality TV words. Yeah. And it's so frustrating because I've never felt like I, the reason I love Love is Blind US that first season, it was like so real, you know? It's like what Jasmine's mom said, like uneducated people can be difficult to communicate with. She's so right.
Starting point is 00:06:21 So really quick, we're on episode eight. There are, i think two more episodes coming out on wednesday so if you guys want to watch with us like you have plenty of time the weddings come out on wednesday and like the bachelorette part i think they're going to call it a hen i think that's what they call it and a stag a stag yeah yeah it's so good for a multitude of reasons but like for us like there is and like there's only really one reason there's like life before fred Freddie and life after Freddie. And let me tell you, Jax, like they don't make men like Freddie anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:50 No. And what he's, what's happening to him on the show, like I'm not going to spoil it for anyone, but it's hard to watch. It is. I love this man with my whole heart. Like he deserves the world. And when him and his chosen beloved decided to get together, I was very, very excited for them and very hopeful.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I had a small concern that maybe she wasn't woman enough for him. Jackie did say those exact words. But I really held out hope that like they could be right for each other. And now seeing what I've seen, like she's not woman enough for him. Like she's doesn't deserve him. I don't really, it would take seriously Mother Teresa, but I believe she's out there for him i don't really it would take seriously mother theresa but i i believe she's out there for me molly may and and freddie does kind of look like tommy like a little bit
Starting point is 00:07:30 and zach who you know love is wine is his favorite show and he also watched love uh love island season five uk with me so he knows tommy and molly as well and he just keeps calling him tommy yeah because they are so similar they sound alike and then freddie's whole thing is he's very much a homebody he doesn't like like the high life the fast life and i mean is anybody more homey than molly may may son molly no no freddie would be an amazing stepfather for sure freddie also has spoken about how like really his whole life revolves around his older brother who has down syndrome and it's like he's coming from this place of just purity everything that comes out of his mouth he couldn't be sweeter and he just ends up with a girl who's like high life city like and and at first you think like oh well they'll just live
Starting point is 00:08:08 like they're combined they love each other so much that like they'll just be freddie and her so very quickly i'm saying her because i'm trying not to spoil it what i'm about to say is i want to go through really quickly our thoughts on every couple so starting now like if you haven't seen it and you're never going to watch it like you can listen but if you are skip ahead a couple of minutes let's just go couple by couple yeah we'll refer to the time stamps couple by couple okay spoilers start now Sabrina and Steven well let's do let's finish Freddie and Catherine oh okay Freddie and Catherine okay sorry we were being nice before fucking hate no like she's just it's hard because with reality tv it's like I really want to give my my thoughts but it's
Starting point is 00:08:41 you also have to remember like it's real people I hope she to give my, my thoughts, but it's, you also have to remember like, it's real people. I hope she never hears this. Yeah. Like pray. Um, no, her and her friends are just awful. Anybody, she could act in any sort of way that she wants the way that she's acting. She's not acting in a way that she's not good enough for him. She's not keeps picking fights with him. Even like, stop petting me. I'm not a dog. The way she reacted when he said that he had cheated once when it's clearly something he feels so horrible about, like, and she couldn't get over. And it's like, actually in this one instance, I'm like, I feel like it's almost good. And by the way, I will defend anything
Starting point is 00:09:10 Freddie has ever done, anything wrong he ever said. I don't care. You guys say I'm biased, here I will admit it. I actually think in this instance, it's better that he once cheated because he knows how awful it feels and that he never wants to do it again. Well, that's like the one thing that we learned about him.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That's complete. When he said that, like the room gasped, like it was really in Congress with what we know about him and how we know him to be our, our little PJ on Friday. And I would, I would love if she, she just like immediately judged and closed down. And I would love for her to have asked more questions about like what that period of like, maybe he was going through a rough patch. Like it just, maybe it was like love in other words where like he was like really drunk and taking advantage of like, and he didn't know. No, like for real, there's really, it was like love in other words where like he was like really drunk and taking advantage of like and he didn't know no like for real there's really it was so confusing and so shocking I wish she had asked more questions like about the circumstances around it instead of just like
Starting point is 00:09:51 labeling him as a cheater once a cheat always a cheat and I just want to say to me she started pushing him away and picking fights after she saw Ollie oh because before she saw Ollie these two could have floated off in a cloud they were so high and I just want to say to say, I don't like Ollie, but did Ollie clock her in the pods almost immediately? I was like, oh my God, this guy's writing her off because she says what kind of clubs she goes to. Now that might be a reference that I don't understand because he literally knew exactly that she was materialistic, you know, goes out every night, like not really looking seriously
Starting point is 00:10:19 to settle down and slow down your life. And which is what I think a lot of the people who show up to this show are like way to get a read on someone, Ollie. When seriously, I think Ollie's the worst. Yeah. No, a lot of people read each other very quickly. Like Jasmine and Sam loved that. Just the last thing I want to say about Sam and Catherine, because I don't think they're
Starting point is 00:10:36 going to get married and I don't think that they should. Freddie and Catherine, if they get married, like I'd like call Freddie's funeral home, like home because I'll need my burial. Like I won't be okay. When she went to his house and he like showed her his outfit that he wears for his funeral directing. Like, I'm sorry. I love this man.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And I know some people are like, funeral direct. Like, let me tell you, you're yucky. No, not only are you yucky. Cause like a living is a living. Tom, we'll get to that. A living is a living. Let me tell you what a stable lucrative job that is. You know, whenever it goes out of business, death, like it's kind of yes it's it's off the beaten path it's when you're looking for a
Starting point is 00:11:09 partner who's gonna like provide for you there's nothing more so you might as well like like it's just as stable as like accounting you know death and taxes those are the two things people always can rely on like I don't like how judgment when she was like telling her friends she was like clearly her friends are also judgmental like you could learn a lot about people but based on who they hang out with and they were like a funeral excuse my like hate yeah hate hate no she's shallow and in any if she were in another couple with someone else who had like red flags i'd be like oh they can make it work whatever i wouldn't find it so offensive is just like we've never seen anyone like him on reality television we as a society and like he deserves the best and she's not even be like she could be anyone who she wanted to be like before the show and I feel
Starting point is 00:11:48 that way about everyone like I don't care what you did Bobby's music video like okay I agree when you show up to the show like who are you starting now when you say yes and like she has just fumbled the ball no and you you can tell she's like looking for fights because she wants a reason to say no um and it was a reason to say no it was really crazy to see her like you know girls are always like starting stuff right like when they were shopping and she was like so when we get married like will you want to come to the shops with me and he was like like no but like i'll come with you and i'll sit like everyone else like you go to a department store you always see guys sitting on the couch he's like i'll sit on the sofa and i'll wait for you
Starting point is 00:12:18 so in our life together you won't want to go shopping with me like i'm dragging you and then she like and i really couldn't tell does she want him to go shopping with her or not what is the right answer that like that scene was really emblematic of her being the problem for for sure yeah i feel like she saw life with freddie as like you know very boring and i think she wants someone who like once the show airs and they're on their instagram trajectory who's gonna like milk it with her for all it's worth like doing club appearances no no like she's in it for the club appearance yes it's becoming increasingly painful to watch because he's so precious and like all like every time I see him I like want to cry like yeah he talks about his family with such like respect and his job with
Starting point is 00:12:59 such even though they were laughing at his job he's like no like it's not sad like I feel you know the responsibility to take care of people at their lowest moments like he's so precious oh and he's the best looking person we've ever seen oh literally like everyone else on the show is a dog compared to this guy you never saw someone so hot in your fucking life and she's just really shallow she can't even understand like he brought up the idea of a prenup like you know if I pass away I want everything to go to my sister and she's immediately like what about like she's not even thinking it has nothing to do but he loves his sister so much he feels this like enormous responsibility to take care of his brother who has down syndrome and i'm sure that's what he was referring to if she let him fucking finish
Starting point is 00:13:35 his sentence she's like gossiping with her friends like he wants to leave his money to his sister he's already planning for when he leaves you and by the way it wasn't about when he leaves her it was about in event of his death no seriously like her and her friends were the blind leading the blind i don't know how three people so shallow all found each other yeah they're perfect for each other they should get married there was one friend who seemed nice and she's just grouped in no i think she's shallow too but she had like a self awareness to the fact that they're on tv oh she's like oh my parents are gonna see this let me act normal for 35 seconds because you can't if you're you can't be friends with two people like that who are like if you're so different yeah so they're obviously like the main thing we're obsessed with but there
Starting point is 00:14:08 are a lot of honestly really good couples strong couples in terms of strength i think we all can agree like steven and sabrina are probably gonna get married yeah but i was also saying this happens all the time on love is blind where like steven and sabrina saw it as a rock and then they show up at the altar and they're like no yeah and we never really get answers because they've just been like i guess faking it the whole time i don't think that's what's gonna happen they seem perfect for each other yeah and if there is like a reason for them not to get married it's that fakak story he told about his like ex-girlfriend who had a terminally ill tumor and then she broke up with him after treatment after months of like treatment and like her case getting worse and then him saying she broke up with me and she's also fine
Starting point is 00:14:46 yeah they never followed up on that i have so many questions that to me was such a red flag like your terminally ill girlfriend broke up with you no not only that and then she's still right right maybe you were seriously the tumor maybe she was like faking it to get rid of you and then you stayed and so then she had to break i don't know and sabrina's just like crying with him being like oh my god that's beautiful thank you for sharing that with me and it's like i have questions there's more to that story there is more i have so many questions but but otherwise i do think they're solid yeah like i'm great moving on someone who is extremely interesting to me is alexa and tom from the beginning i think
Starting point is 00:15:22 it's alexa and tom oh not Alexa. Maria. Maria. She reminds me of Alexa Lemieux, like so much confidence. Like seriously, I'm obsessed with her level of confidence. And we, when we were watching the show, like we immediately did not get good vibes from Tom in the, in the pods. His age is definitely concerning. Like you're 38 and this is how you want to meet someone. It's just, it's confusing. He's super judgmental and that was coming through. And then he outright said probably one of the most judgmental things I've ever heard anyone say. Once he got out of the pods, they were talking about her job. She's a makeup artist. And by the way, she's the best sort of advertisement. If I go to the UK, like I would
Starting point is 00:15:55 literally book her to her makeup is gorgeous. Like makeup is gorgeous. Always fresh. Do we, even at the beach in Greece, I'm like, damn, it's what's setting spray. She is really talented. And he was like, yeah, like when I heard what you did like I found a judge like I found it you know odd because I really think that he's quote in his words a high-powered PR executive okay nobody high-powered says that they're high-powered but nonetheless and he was like when I you know first learned what you did like I was you know it took me back a little bit because you know that's kind of a deal breaker for me someone who's not ambitious yeah what also I just want to say there is nobody on the planet more ambitious than a makeup artist like running around town all day lugging your kit it's so physical and then you also have this like
Starting point is 00:16:33 artistry and then you also have to be marketing up clients oh my god it was so judgmental yeah the fact that she didn't leave him in that minute and i thought she handled it has so much patience for him even in the pods he was like saying all this stuff to the women about how like once they give birth they've got to get back to work yeah she was like by the way i would like to have like one year two years at home with my baby like i don't want to miss that and he was like i don't want to miss it either like he's obsessed with ambition back to work tom no but he wants to stay home too it's like he literally wants to find a woman to like be his sugar mama take care of him oh yucky and then they also have like that issue where she kind of starts it happened off camera but they went to dinner you know dinner date he paid the next morning they go out for breakfast
Starting point is 00:17:13 she was like oh do you want me to get this one and he was like okay and she seriously was so mad so she had said she comes from like a really traditional background oh my god and also like it's love is mine is so interesting because you like learn about things people have been through in their life that are so crazy. Right. When she told us how her dad died, I was like, oh damn. She was like, oh, he had terminal cancer. I'm like, oh, that's sad.
Starting point is 00:17:30 But that's literally not how we died. Like she was like, he left to there for Morocco. He went to Morocco. He like knew he was going to die. And he went to say his goodbyes. He has a lot of family there. He's a big, a big community. And seriously, lockdown started the next day.
Starting point is 00:17:41 He was stuck in Morocco and just like passed away there. Yeah. Without any of the members of his family. Like my god awful traumatizing like and every time she talks about her dad she starts crying and and I think obviously like losing a parent is triggering but that's the craziest way to lose someone that like I don't think and her sister too when they went home the sister brought up the dad she immediately started crying like it's so that's seriously the craziest story I've ever heard like I couldn't believe it but back to her and Tom yes he is they have this like weird she's very traditional and she like owns that too she's like I know this is like not okay to say but like I think the man should be a provider and she talks
Starting point is 00:18:13 like because she like her cultural background is like that's the vibe and like thank you like that's just so honest yeah she's so honest she's also like handles awkward or uncomfortable situations so well like the way she carries herself, I think is admirable. Like, like when, um, what's her name? Tash. Yeah. He finally meets the other girl at the bar and she lets them talk like for a good amount of time.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And then it gets to a point where it's like actually disrespectful, the length. Yeah. And she just comes over and she's like, tell my feet hurt. Like, can we go find somewhere to sit? Like, okay. The balls of steel. Yeah. Admirable.
Starting point is 00:18:44 No. And you see it play out with so many other situations where they're like quivering and then by the time they go over there they like make such a big deal out of it and everybody's like clocking taking their temperature it's just so awkward and she just is a pro jasmine too we love jasmine we'll get to her relationship but that's not the main storyline about jasmine like no no no jasmine is a queen no jasmine and i keep almost calling her Alexa. No, no, no. Maria. Maria.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's been so interesting to also see like how women in the UK carry themselves. Like that's what a strong woman looks like in the UK. I feel like we see strong women on Love is Blind a lot. Not like this. Like Laura, Jaramami. Yeah, but it's Jaramami. I feel like a strong, bold woman in the UK is different than a strong, bold woman in America. I don't know. Other than they have an accent. No, I think the way that they carry themselves,
Starting point is 00:19:29 like Jasmine and Maria really are so similar to me in the way they carry themselves. Like they like project this persona and that's how people see them. Like it's so convincing and it's so, I don't know what the, it's like strong, but it's a different word. Like it's, they're just like very smart yeah it's really nice to watch and also like Tom I hope that they don't get married they're talking as if they are going to but like I don't think that they're right for each other I think that he's a prick yeah um and that she deserves someone better and warmer and kinder and even though she like laughs off all of his barbs and like he's sarcastic and mean we did
Starting point is 00:20:04 see that afterwards. She cried about the makeup artist thing, even though like in the moment she handled herself, like with so much race, she's still holding his hand. Like how strong are you to not like give him the reaction that he wants? And then like, she goes and cries.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You have, you cannot marry that person. No, you re they're really not right for each other. And I just can't believe he said that on TV. I can only imagine. And they don't film them in their apartments that much. So what they had one hour of filming
Starting point is 00:20:26 and that's what he decides to say? Like he's like a scary mean person. And you know that millions of people are gonna see that. So that's obviously like not the worst thing that you say. Yeah. I can only imagine what he says to her when the cameras are off. Like seriously, I'm thinking of her.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And in a situation like that, they're really acting like they're going to get married. So are they just acting because like this is a show and the big if is if they're gonna say yes or no. So she's getting us to the finish line or like, is she really going to marry this person? Cause she's talking about how she wants a seat at the table for her dad at their wedding. Like, are you going to have a reception? I know. Let's talk about Jasmine and Bobby. We love Jasmine. Love. Oh my gosh. Every girl in the pod. I feel like, I mean, this is also just like my perspective, but I just feel like everyone's
Starting point is 00:21:03 been impacted by Jasmine and like her tutelage you know we are all like a friend like jasmine one like for the advice but i just also feel like the way that she carries herself and the way she like it dresses so great she's really a girl's girl done to the nines and i feel like she's just like someone you would want in your bunk and who's like clothes you would be stealing who would like give you confidence that you would bring with you to the school year and whose bed you'd always be sitting on like she has the best story she borrows she lets you borrow her clothes yeah and now you know she gets it from her mom which best character agreed on the show they were hyping up her mom so much i'm like what is she gonna be like she was more than i expected like yeah seriously she
Starting point is 00:21:36 was hysterical hysterical and like pretty factual to cut like all the concerns that she has like are legit concerns one that the process is concerning but like i think you have to set that aside and trust that your child hasn't gone off the rails and that like if they do marry this person within a month like they just happen to get it right right but then you have to talk about the person like can you provide for my daughter where are you going to live like these are legit questions and i feel like the the thing we know least about jasmine is about her relationship with with Bobby like yeah I thought that they were kind of like not a strong couple but like she's a strong woman and I'm enjoying watching their storyline but then they had that conversation for the last date before the weddings and like they're getting married yeah no they just have
Starting point is 00:22:18 been like coasting and we don't know a lot about them but I actually think they're really well suited for each other because Jasmine is is is a really type, like a strong type of personality, right? She kind of is alpha and he's like a little beta and it kind of works. Yeah. Like, yeah, it'd be nice for her to get someone who's like, you know, big personality, make lots of money, but you can't have like two hotheads in a relationship like that. And there's really only room for Jasmine in that relationship. And I think Bobby fits kind of perfectly in her life.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And I, and I kind of like him. I think he really likes her yeah I mean who wouldn't no she's fabulous and I think he like appreciates what we appreciate about her he just kind of like sits back and lets her shine and I like kind of love her yeah I think that they're so great I think there's there's a chance that they say yes to one another after what they said their conversation before weddings was the most convincing thing I ever saw because they were the only couple not talking about the wedding day they were talking about their future together it wasn't about like if I say yes who's sitting where it was like my dress is for you it was about like she used the
Starting point is 00:23:12 word our love is eternal that person's getting married or she deserves an Oscar yeah the last couple is um Demi and Ollie who I think another one that literally I'm like are they gonna say yes I think they are are they gonna be together yes? I think they are. Are they going to be together forever? Or is one of them going to kill the other? Like, it's so confusing. They had the roughest, I think, start post pods. But they've kind of taken a back seat in the last couple of episodes, just like being stable. I think a lot of us felt like Ollie didn't like.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And I think a lot of the girls were receiving that, too, because Jasmine and Grease is like, if you don't like her, just be honest. And he's like acting one way, saying something completely different so it's really confusing for her and for everyone else watching it's like you say you're committed you say you've never been happier you say she's the only girl for you but your body language the things you're saying the way you're acting is weird yeah and i think a lot of the girls are picking up on things that we can't pick up at home yeah because everyone's like demi what's wrong with you demi you feel different demi you're not the girl we. And it's not just like they're being annoying because then
Starting point is 00:24:06 later in the season when they're out together again, they're like, we're back. They're like, you feel like you again, you know? So they're not just like looking for stuff. No, no. And she, like at points she makes me really sad because she admits that she, you know, is kind of this insecure person and this process has made her even more insecure and I don't know I I feel like every time she's on my screen she's a different person yeah like I think that in her own life she was going through something and then the timing of the show like didn't help I think we're watching someone like actively go through something and I don't even know what that thing is yeah and then with Ollie it's like it was so bad I'm like these two will never could never but then like with the family's
Starting point is 00:24:45 meeting, like, I don't know, it's a kind of going well. It's going well. And I'm like confused. Are they about to get married? Yeah. And it's, it is really interesting. Like kind of the elephant in the room is like, this is the first time, maybe not the first time, but I think love is blind. While the concept is good. The one thing they really don't breach on is people of different weights. And I think that there've been a few instances where there is someone, usually a girl who is, you know, cause everyone that they cast, like while they all look different, they're all like kind of, you know, on the same league. Yeah. And weight is a thing in relationships, right? Like people won't date
Starting point is 00:25:19 someone who's not in shape, especially if like fitness is a big part of your life. And I feel like they never really get into that. The couple of like, when I think of plus size people who have been on the show, it's like Alexa, right? And Alexa met a man who seriously like couldn't, could not be more obsessed with her if he tried. It's like kind of a fairytale scenario. I think if you're a plus size person who's been on dates, like, you know that that's not the case most of the time. Last season there was Chelsea, right? Who was like, was plus size. It never got brought up and she kind of self-sabotaged before it could even be a conversation. So they've never really, I think, tackled that. And I think it's, it's, I mean, I feel awkward even like saying these things.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like it's a, it's kind of like a big thing. And I see people who are like talking about it on TikTok who talk about their experience dating as a plus size person. It's like, it's such a thing in dating. And, you know, it's usually like if a man is overweight like nobody fucking cares no I'm talking about women and so Demi I think is coming like she's she's like having this experience in real time and that's why when she went on the um wedding dress shopping excursion she ended up like giving this sort of like lecture to everyone like this moment of
Starting point is 00:26:23 empowerment and it's because like she's like yeah and I think like Ollie like really loves her I think you think I think she was like realizing that at the dress ceremony and she's like look at me I'm I'm trying on dresses on on tv which is like something I would never do yeah no and she's acknowledged she even before she met Ollie she was like worried about what she looked like and how he would react to that but then he also said like she's got curves in all the right places like and she is so beautiful so i feel like they they discussed that i think the issue with ollie and demi is like even if ollie was giving her all the assurance that she needed which he's not and i do feel like at points he was gaslighting but not anymore since they've been back in london might just like be easier to like
Starting point is 00:27:00 stay apart until they say no i have no idea and they like hanging out with each other's friends so that's good um even if he was doing all of that like Demi's insecurities are going to sabotage this relationship because like she's really like not giving off positive energy like especially on the honeymoons like drake up yeah and that's just like not the vibe for a honeymoon like you want to be like smiley and the energy and and not like this this storm cloud so like I feel like she was right to feel that way most of the time because he was being confusing but she was not helping her case with her energy of just like grumpy cat yeah however she is so much happier now and now it's like okay she is that like positive ray of light
Starting point is 00:27:43 and so I do see their relationship differently and like maybe they will go all the way yeah i think there's a chance but she's so crazy yeah i think it would be crazy if they said yes just like no just like what like no and they're they're genuinely like not well suited for each other like yeah and i think demi deserves like a nice man better and more no someone who will give her like that affection and stuff she's always just like asking for more and like no and always acting that way every now and then you see like his mask slip a little bit like when he got up talking about charlotte i could say charlotte's gorgeous fire also like charlotte like i think everybody loves charlotte and when we were watching the pods i'm like who is that girl like she kind of like busted through the the lens with like her
Starting point is 00:28:20 personality and she was so cute looking charlotte i don't think she said when i still said one word you just see her in the background like working out or journaling and it's like who's that wait i'm sorry we forgot about nicole and benaiah yeah yeah yeah um okay i actually really like them as a couple but it needs to be said that like i don't think nicole is okay like seriously how anyone could choose sam when and not only and and i know benaiah really struggled to verbalize it and maybe he didn't do it enough because he was just like, listen, I don't think he's here for genuine reasons. Like what he should have said is he called you fat.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Like. No, because he didn't. Because how can he call her fat when he hasn't? He insinuated. What he should have said is like, he won't love you if you're fat. Like he was worried about a comment that you made. But I don't know what the right way to go about it is. Like Jasmine said something to him about it.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Benaiah, two people who I think she really respects and she still chose him. Yeah. Well, I think I'm trying to like empathize with her because i feel like with benaiah the connection was really strong but like he was sort of like giving nothing non-committed like if if she chooses him will he choose her and will he propose i feel like she didn't have that assurance and she's someone who really wants to be in love like really wants to be married a very serious girl just And here was Sam saying everything you want to hear. Now us as the viewer, we can see he said that to everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We can see he's full of shite, like more than anyone who's ever been on TV before. He's an anomaly to me. He will say anything. Literally is so strange. Anything to stay on this show and get married. And like, we can see that. But for her who just wants to feel loved, it's like, wow, this man is saying everything. And like, she doesn't even have she it's only hearing it through a wall you
Starting point is 00:29:47 can't get intonation or genuine you like you really have to trust and if she's not trusting the process what is she doing there i also think she's just someone who doesn't have like good instinct but like immediately when she saw him she could feel that something was off and like that he is not genuine he's literally just saying whatever the reveals like seriously will never cease to make me so uncomfortable like even the best ones right no the best ones there's nothing better than a best like i think of some of the best ones as being like lauren and cameron and alexa i don't remember that one i remember alexa and brendan like seriously jaggy i can't believe you didn't
Starting point is 00:30:20 watch that season it's seriously the best one maybe i I'll watch it. So Benaiah and Nicole, I actually do think that they're well-suited for one another. I don't think they'll get married. I think they should get married. I think they're perfect together. I think she'll say yes. And he'll say no. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Even though he was crying in Germany. To his mom, yeah. I think they should both say yes. Not us learning so much about the UK just in time for us to see that graphic. It's kind of gorgeous. No, and so Sabrina's from Ireland. They had to take a plane.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Then the Irish Sea, the mom's worried about because he works in London. Right. Benaiah. Right. Right, right, right. Benaiah is from the north. He goes north for his landscape. Oh, that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Culturally. He goes north. We are learning so much about different jobs that don't exist. Oh my God. We're trying to figure out what Demi does as a supervisor to the attendant. culturally goes north we are learning so much about different jobs that don't exist oh my god we're trying to figure out what demi does it's a supervisor to the attendant she's the supervisor of the attendance team and what that means okay so we looked it up in a school there's my guess was hr not right so in a school there's a thing called like an attendance manager or team of attendance whatever and they like look out for kids truant officer i don't know what that is they look out for kids who are chronically who are chronically absent and that's a true an
Starting point is 00:31:29 officer demi is the supervisor of the attendance team attendance that feels like a very specific way for them to write it on tv when it could have been like school counselor or something worker yeah super maybe it's a superintendent maybe she's just yeah so if anybody knows like what the the u.s word for that is we're like also what does bobby do luxury shopping guide on a cruise i looked at you guys are so hung up about the thing that he said about cruises but i feel like that was something he did one time and i was getting like a below deck vibe that's just me no i looked it up it's like a thing on cruises like your job is to help people shop and you like it's like you work in sales like you make
Starting point is 00:32:09 commission okay yeah a lot of confusing and Jasmine is a mental health nurse yeah I've not heard of that so what's the equivalent counselor yeah yeah yeah yeah counselor snitch jazz I mean Jasmine would be the most amazing counselor like Like, give me all your advice. Catherine is a dental nurse. That's easy. Yeah. Bob, Frankie, Freddie is a funeral director. The jobs, though, like, that's super interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Tom is PR. Maria is makeup. Makeup artist. Sabrina? I don't remember. I don't remember. Steven? I know Steven owns a gym.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Right, at CrossFit. With his buddies. Right. Nicole? Corporate lawyer corporate lawyer like she has a big high page she's like a big swing in yeah she makes a lot of money nice but i ask called structural landscaper whatever that gardener like what is that i think that's like yeah landscaper i think it could be a you could be like the architect of landscaping you could be the actual on bravo where they had like those backyard designers?
Starting point is 00:33:07 Yeah. I think that's what he does. Like a landscaper. Yeah. But like a landscaper can mean a million things. But maybe like structural. So like if I want to build a portica chair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I would call Benaiah. I would love one. Or like that guy with the commercials. Cambridge paving stones. Paving stones, yeah. With Arma Tech. They always look like new. Or like if i wanted a zen garden right right or if you were like building patio with an outdoor fireplace or something someone who comes
Starting point is 00:33:30 in and like structures your landscape i literally need a structure i have a lot of plans yeah i but i don't know like i actually have been what have you just called benaiah i'm looking for the term for the person that i'm looking for and thank you love is buying okay i think i'm looking for a structural landscaper like i need my zen garden for my cold plunge in my garden. Ding, ding, ding. I'm going to start a garden when I get home. Are you excited? I am. I am. Um, are you guys excited to hear about it? It's going to be great. I have a green thumb. The weddings come out, I think on when the 21st, three days, Wednesday, I think we will keep you abreast. If you haven watched honestly i can't recommend it enough it's
Starting point is 00:34:06 one of the best seasons of tv i've seen in a while most of you watch love is blind so if you're into that vibe vibe trope this is such a good one like so many great cast of characters and you'll be introduced to freddie who's like seriously the best person we've ever seen on tv agreed like if not for freddie alone and i just need like a lifetime of happiness for him with Molly Mae. Agreed. And like, I'm sure Molly Mae is like down in the dumps watching Love is Fine UK. She should slide into his Instagram. Although we looked at his Instagram and it leaves much to be desired.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So maybe don't look at it. He's obviously like not had the royal treatment yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He needs to go through his old social media posts. Okay, well now are you ready for the fast five stories that you need to know? If it's the fast five stories that you need to know that are brought to you by built rewards. Listen up. If you rent, do you ever feel like you're stuck in this endless loop of rent payments? Just basically watching your money vanish into thin air. Well, it's time to
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Starting point is 00:39:07 thank you slash turn yet welcome our first story an update from what we spoke about friday which turned out to be like a big fat nothing lie dakota johnson flashes her massive emerald engagement ring at paparazzi after shutting down chris martin split rumors so dakota and chris are still together that story that was reported everywhere, not even just like us getting it wrong. It was fact. It was not fact. No, no, but like it was reported as fact.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It was reported as fact. Yeah, it wasn't like a theory. They're still together going strong. How does that happen? I don't know. Why does that happen? Like nobody even, it's not even like they're often reported on.
Starting point is 00:39:42 It's not like Ben and Jen. Right, right, right. So. Who, by the way, I'm getting so fatigued with. I don't even want you to choose them as stories anymore. I don't choose them as stories. Until the filing, I don't choose it as a story. Of course, they're split up. He's there.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Even though she was at Jennifer Garner's house. Every once in a while, they do something to throw off the scent. She was just at the mall with one of the Affleck kids. If you're a step-parent for such a short period of time and the kids are much older, like. And they have a very involved mother. Like do you hang out with them post divorce? No. No. So they're trying to throw off the scent until the filing happens. We won't be talking about it. Happy to know Dakota and Chris are still together. Like I definitely wasn't happy to hear that they had split. Same. And it took some of my serotonin away.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And now I can put it back. No, I really like these two. And it's like they're such a stable force in Hollywood. I think they have a lot of really famous friends. I think people really like them. Like in the culture, but also in Hollywood itself. So I'm so glad that they're not broken up. Although I was excited about the prospect of Dakota Johnson
Starting point is 00:40:41 being back on the dating scene. Like we have to take her off our list. I wasn't even because I don't think she would ever be dating someone like as interesting to us and he's like as Chris Martin like I feel like the next person she did would be like a true person we don't know anything about or like an indie artist like I'm glad it's like the big indie artist yeah the biggest you know no I'm so happy that this is not like she's going out with Zac Efron but the low state of entertainment, like how is it so widely reported, confirmed that two people broke up
Starting point is 00:41:07 who are literally together? Right. And I'm obsessed with this picture of her flashing her ring, looking at the paparazzi like you stupid idiots. You know, she's not even smiling. She's like, like dumb ass. Yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 00:41:17 it's giving condescending in the best possible way. It could never make me hate her. Nobody does condescension like Dakota Johnson. Nobody. That's not true, Ellen. Well, that's not true ellen well that's not true constantly people are lying about her it's so true like why and i would feel bad for her but i don't think there's a person more privileged on the planet like seriously born into hollywood royalty became the face of the one of the biggest movie franchises in history without ever acting a
Starting point is 00:41:40 day in her life before it even came out it was a billion dollar movie there was no question that it was going to be and I want to say something and it's going to sound mean but it's not because I love her like Dakota Johnson like literally can't act like it's insane she did such a bad job in that movie like the whole time I was like oh this is a woman acting community theater I love how like she literally doesn't give a fuck she did Madam Web like one of the worst movies ever made went on tour and was like I was like totally agree with you guys this movie is horrible it sounds like it was written by AI like she's so real for that no she keeps it real they could never make me hate her yeah no it must be nice to be Dakota Johnson like seriously what does Dakota worry about no I know everyone's life is their own behind closed doors la la la la nobody's life perfect. I do feel like Dakota Johnson's is extremely close.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Even like her, you know, what would be beef with the ex-wife, gargi-pargi relationship, a best friend for life. Yeah, and don't get me wrong. I'm sure, you know, Dakota Johnson has demons. I'm sure Dakota Johnson has things. And the hardest thing that's ever happened to Dakota is still the hardest thing that ever happened to her.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Just because you're drowning in 60 feet of water and I'm drowning in 10 feet of water doesn't mean I'm not drowning, for sure. Although I would like to just take a swim in Dakota's pool like I just she's one of the people like temperature perfect it probably doesn't have chlorine it's definitely like a saltwater pool and she's really gorgeous and she's so unique looking too like I feel like all these bitches today like everybody looks the same even the most beautiful girls I'm like I could tell you three girls who look like that not to be like a you know a woman hater she is so unique looking she
Starting point is 00:43:03 doesn't look like anyone that i know yeah i just i'm sorry i love her and she stays winning she's so rich she's so famous and she does nothing like she literally tries so little i love it yeah it's nice like that there should be people out there like that yeah you know to the balance like the equilibrium or whatever exactly exactly so happy to report they're still together right right and it's like even when there was bad dakota news it never existed like that's the kind of life she lives totally our next person uh story was probably someone who we would have said all those things about three weeks ago but now like things have taken a nosedive for blake lively
Starting point is 00:43:39 fun anymore no i saw it was a tiktok it was from Hirsch. She was like, seriously, this is like I was having fun. Like now we're like really canceling people on out. No, I totally agree. Blake Lively is now being called out again for repeatedly using a problematic transgender slur in resurfaced interviews. So a quote from her 2012 interview with Elle. And from what I've seen, it's a it's a it's a text quote. It's not her saying this on video or anything.
Starting point is 00:44:09 But she gave a quote to Elle saying, I hope to have a few girls one day. Oh, this is also funny knowing that she has so many girls. She said, quote, I hope to have a few girls one day. If not girls, they better be. You guys know the word for transgender that rhymes with granny. Like, it's not productive if you don't know the word. No, for sure. It makes it's hard to report on when people people like have, you know, drama with slurs because you guys are like, what slur?
Starting point is 00:44:28 Right. Like when it was S-P-A-Z. Right. That was a really confusing one. It was. Now I want to say something because. Wait, so she said, if not girls, they better be grannies because I have some amazing shoes and bags and stories that need to be appreciated.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So she uses the word not derogatory at all. I think she's like hoping for one, you know? It's important to note. And I like, I, what the reference that I always use, and I'm sure everyone's tired of me saying it is sex in the city, right? Is there a show that celebrates the LGBTQ plus community more? Is there literally written and created by a gay man? Like it's, you can't say sex in the city is homophobic or transphobic, right? They use that word in a couple of episodes where Samantha has, um, those ladies outside her window who like won't be quiet at night. And there was a time where that is how, you know, the community was referenced. I think RuPaul has spoken about it at length.
Starting point is 00:45:17 It's a word he uses all the time. He loves it. Um, and he like won't give it up and he doesn't find it offensive. I do think it's like, we're now currently living in the era of like post, but there was an era where it was okay. Yeah. As with, with a lot of things, as with just like language and culture. Fergie, let's get it started. Right, right, right. And like, I'm sorry, in high school, like you could not stop me using that word.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Like, I'm just going to be honest. Like I used it all the time. Entourage. Entourage. They use our word all the time. Friends, F word. Yep. R word, T word. No, friends. They don't use the F f word yep r word t word no friends they don't use
Starting point is 00:45:46 the f word they use f you said they do an entourage they get an entourage yeah on our season one every other word is the f slur or the r slur like and that just it was the culture at the time so now we're just and this is what what i was saying at the beginning like i'm no longer having fun with the nns with us drama because now like someone's being canceled that's like seriously not what i signed up for. I don't participate in like going back to people's, you know, tweets, interviews. She said this publicly. It wasn't like she was caught on record saying it privately. Like this is a time where using a word like that was OK.
Starting point is 00:46:16 She's actually using it in a complimentary way. Right. The magazine published it. They didn't ask Derek it out that she said a slur. Yep. Yep. So like this wouldn't print a slur i have officially like stopped participating in the it ends with us drama and i think i literally
Starting point is 00:46:30 invented the drama like i i'm not having fun anymore like for real yeah this isn't so not where i wanted it to go and this has nothing to do with me being team blake this is just i don't participate in cancel culture like this like i don't participate this is textbook cancel culture like this is 14 years ago a word that at the time again was not starred out in this interview l magazine printed this people saw it it wasn't an issue at the time because it was before people really took umbrage with that word in a in a mainstream way like i'm sure at the time there were people who were offended by that word but the general public like did not know that and it was a different time there are a lot of things that occur at different times and like those people's
Starting point is 00:47:10 feet are not held to the fire there is a lot of grace for that it just depends who it is and i don't play that like this person can get away with it and that person can't agreed like seriously this is so not fun this is so not what i want to be talking about like oh my god times change like that's it times change like things are different that was 14 years 12 years ago oh my god not me like not being able to do math what i say i don't know i think i said 14 because i was like maybe that's why i was in my head so i was like should i say 50 right no 2024 2012 12 years yeah like like no and if blake lively had like a history of being like you know beating up trans folks like maybe this would be cause for concern.
Starting point is 00:47:45 She seems lovely. I think she's probably accepting of all types of people. And I don't give a fuck. How about that? Yeah. No, this is a serious, serious reach. This is a serious reach. And like, we've gotten to like, this is what we're doing now.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah. And I just like, I'm sorry. This is my thesis on life. Ready? Nobody hates women more than women. Like this is a, we started here because like everyone in the cast was wary of Justin Baldoni. Like it was clear, like everybody had beef with him, right? This is where we got to. And, and don't get me wrong. Like this is a story. This is the only, the only people who care about what's going on in the ads
Starting point is 00:48:17 with us are women. Right. So we have gone to a place now where this is what, what we're doing to Blake Lively. Yeah. Like, you're just never going to catch me doing this. Like seriously, this is such embarrassing behavior. Touch grass. Yeah. I think now like Blake Lively is probably just going to lay low. And she should.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Seriously. Yeah. I think the press tour is probably over or it should end and like people need to move on. I'm sorry. I like, I really can't, I can't get into this. And I know people like don't like what I'm saying and I actually don't care.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Like we are being so critical and so hard on how like Colleen Hoover and Blake Lively are promoting this movie. Like I have never seen such a critical analysis of how a film, so many movies tackle serious issues. Some movies tackle more serious issues. There are Holocaust movies. Maybe like, have we ever sat back and been like, I don't like how George Clooney is promoting this movie.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Like we have literally never done that. And we're only like, and so it's, I just. Yeah. you guys know how we feel at this point but just letting you know like it's really taken a crazy turn yeah no I'm seriously I'm done now yeah until further notice I'm gonna be real with you you look like clowns in the words of Kim Kardashian like going back this is just behavior I don't participate in I don't yeah next story brary barry keoghan shares a rare photo with his son brando amid sabrina carpenter breakup rumors so a lot going on in the sabrina sphere first of all her album comes out this week short and sweet so cute i'm so excited for sabrina agreed then also it was like came out yesterday that her and barry have like an on off again
Starting point is 00:49:43 relationship like it's not solid as a rock well and i came out that they were broken up and then it was like no they're actually just like always like breaking up right so i think right now they're like in and off um okay this is a relationship that like i'm happy to cheer for you won't find me crying when it ends because i didn't see salt burn so like and to to me like Sabrina like shreem skim like I I would love to see her with Zac Efron well okay so here's the thing like I champion Sabrina right like I'm a fan of Sabrina if Sabrina's happy I'm happy and I love that she was dating Barry like at the height of Saltburn right like Barry Keoghan was the name on everybody's lips for a brief period and like that's when she was dating him I do feel like some of like the Saltburn hype has
Starting point is 00:50:22 like worn off and now she needs to date someone a little bit more relevant? I agree. Now she's keeping him afloat by putting him in her music videos. Right, right. Who is somebody everybody's talking about right now besides Justin Baldoni? And Zac Efron. For me, it's Zac Efron. No, I know. But who's having a moment right now?
Starting point is 00:50:35 Let's go to the list. No, he's not going to be on the list, the person I'm thinking of. What's a TV show? Freddie. She needs to date Freddie. Glenn Powell. Well, Glenn Powell actually just went to a tate mccray concert um you know they like hang out a lot and i feel like they're cute even though who she did she's dating someone she's dating someone jeremy allen white who is barry keoghan oh my god wait jeremy allen white and sabrina carpenter like that is what dreams are made of
Starting point is 00:51:01 knowing she like wouldn't even have to change anything. She like, it's the same person. Probably have the same size clothes. Like she could just like. There's like a Barry Keoghan sized hole in her bed and Jeremy Allen White fits perfectly. Yeah. He just has like a little bit more hair. Yeah. I also didn't know that Jeremy Allen White.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And he's in a series, not a movie. So it's like continuing fame. Wait, they're literally the same person. Cause I didn't know Barry Keoghan like had kids. And if I did, like I just like didn't care. does jeremy allen white his uh daughter and
Starting point is 00:51:27 barry has a two-year-old so like that's like a like little yeah what does that mean i don't know like that he was recently like in a serious relationship um he's got a lot going on yeah i think if you were to look deeply at his like previous relationship timeline like it wouldn't be favorable yeah like i don't know if it cues him up for to for sabrina to be like the one and now it makes more sense like on and off and i'm sure like he and his time is not his own with the two-year-old correct and maybe that maybe the two-year-old drove a wedge between him and sabrina as it should not to blame her him brando cute name and he's so cute but like as it should because like you blame her. Him. Brando. Cute name. And he's so cute.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But like as it should. Because like you can't be like with your girlfriend who's taking over the world. And you can't go with her to take over the world. But like you have a two year old. Yeah. Yeah. No it's true. If you want to be present.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I just want to say like I personally like now I'm just so championing him and Jeremy Allen. Her and Jeremy Allen White. Like you can't see anything else. I can't see anything else. Although he was connected to Rosalita. Rosalita jump a little higher i don't know if that's still a thing i think it might be because like they really i think bonded over their love of cigarettes like they really did oh well sabrina smokes sabrina could smoke yeah if she wanted to i could see sabrina vaping i don't know if sabrina smokes so i shouldn't have said sab Sabrina smokes but like anybody could pick up a cigarette and start smoking right like you're not special because you
Starting point is 00:52:49 smoke I actually think that if Sabrina smoked she would smoke cigarettes because she's all like vintagey it's true I think that like although are like too modern for her aesthetic when you're a singer it's like tough to smoke and every now and then I'll like find out that like someone smokes and it really shocks me no but Lady Gaga it makes makes your voice kind of gargi well it depends what your aesthetic is i think lady gaga like the rasp behooves the the music sabrina's very like vocally feather yeah like ari can't be chain smoking no no ari lady gaga can chain smoke harry styles i think smokes and i think it works and of course like amy winehouse smoked and i think you know her voice was yep better off yeah it would have been gargi anyway but it was like the vibe it was the vibe right it's not it's not sabrina's
Starting point is 00:53:35 aesthetic vibe perhaps perchance but not audio no audibly i feel like she really has to preserve her voice yeah i feel like Barry Keoghan probably smoked 1000% yeah you can always tell like when an actor or actress smokes like because if they have to do it in like like because he smoked I think in her music video and it was like so natural but sometimes you see I'm like you definitely don't smoke yeah like you're not like doing the vibe right or you're just like a weenie and a lot of people are that it's so true is that a transition to a story about a weenie no no no no no no but it is time for our next story which is our fourth story oh my god our fourth story the fourth perchance brought to you by masterclass perchance
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Starting point is 00:58:15 family and check out our link for that exclusive offer. Thank you, Claudia. You're welcome. Our next story, the new Skims cover girl is Charli XCX. She fronts the shapewear brand's latest campaign. So this is a no brainer. Like a string of just high profile campaigns and it girls. Kim has tapped Charli XCX to star in her new shapewear brand in her shapewear brand's latest campaign, which sees the singer and internet darling pose in the brand's new cotton ribbon, cotton fleece styles. So I feel like whenever anyone's having a moment, like Skims does such a good job of
Starting point is 00:58:52 grabbing them in a timely manner. Like they turn this stuff around. Because you never know it's going to go viral. You know, like the most impressive is when they have those white lotus girls. Like they were literally famous for a week and Kim got them on Tuesday. Like it was really brilliant. And I think this also cements Charlie cause Charlie very much like operated. She's having a moment, but like it really started small and like really within the gay community. And I think she really like has
Starting point is 00:59:12 this summer blown up. Obviously Brad summer, her music is everywhere, like for everyone. And I think like, you know, getting a skims campaign is really kind of like the last big thing before that's like cemented. So I think this is a big deal. Now, obviously, I can't help but make this about Taylor. You know, it's like, it's, you know, Skims and Charlie is big for everyone. But like, to me, it's like, oh, it's I hate Taylor Club. Yeah, but it's usually like Skims is like the I love Taylor Club these days. And it's so true. It's very confusing for me to understand how that happens.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So like, I like this because it makes sense. It's so true. One plus one is equaling two. Yeah, not like sock and and are there people feeling weird and they had to ask and then the sabrina when she mentioned that she talked to taylor about skims like people can't get over that that was the headline and then she addressed that headline when she did varieties cover and then her addressing it became the next headline like it's a lot and it makes me feel weird that like you know sabrina might be feeling pulled into different directions and it happens to Lana Del Rey like it's confusing because like when my best friend has a mortal enemy like they are my enemy I take on that enemy for myself I'm certainly not
Starting point is 01:00:13 going to be like working with them and promoting them like I'm just I'm gonna be with my best friend no no it was definitely confusing at that time and I think it's recently got even more confusing so this I like this because it follows like a very linear trajectory yeah and it makes sense like charlie it's charlie august there for sure right and there was like no sort of hesitations for charlie to be like oh should i do skims why i shouldn't do this no there are actually even more reasons why i should although just like add her to the list of people who have opened for Taylor Swift and also starred in Skims campaigns. Like who? Like the,
Starting point is 01:00:47 all the other ones who are still, she's on a separate list of people who have opened for Taylor Swift to no longer speak to tailored that and who actively beef with tailored. Yeah. That to me is, and I think she has denied that there's any sort of beef, but like for me, you can't,
Starting point is 01:00:59 I can't be convinced. If they're not like congratulating each other on their new music, then there's beef. Yeah. There just is. Where's Camilla and Taylor? Where is Camilla Cabello and Taylor? Like, I don't think that they have beef at all.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But there was a point where they were so up each other's asses, like publicly, privately, hanging out, double dates, like everything. They have not been spotted together in a really long time. And, you know. Camilla also just doesn't like do spotting anymore. Like she's low key and she's between albums. So she's just living off the grid she's like not between albums she's like actively on the grid like releasing new stuff making TikToks with anyone who will make a TikTok with her like she's actively in her thirsty era the era you're referring to like did and like two months ago yeah
Starting point is 01:01:38 like it and it was a long time um so at first I was like well Camilla Cabello hasn't been spotted with anyone so like the tailor of it all isn't weird, but it's weird. Like I'm officially, you know, confused. Yeah. So congrats to Charlie and Skims on the great photos and collaboration. Yeah, like a no brainer for everyone involved. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Yeah. One of my favorites for at least. Can I get lipstick? Like I feel like I could use a little bit of like a touch up. You actually like have nice color. I'll take yours. Don't be stingy.
Starting point is 01:02:08 No, no, no. Bring it up. The thing about this color though is not super, it looks very natural and it might dull your shine. Just saying. I'm used to it. You're used to it? Really?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Everyone's used to it. Who's dulling your shine, Turdy? Everyone. Talk to us. Everyone. Everyone who wants to like, everyone wants a piece of me. Open up. I think the apple's rotten right to, shiny. literally to us everyone everyone who wants like everyone wants a piece of me open up because you're shiny shiny they're dull and you're shiny okay i'm ready for the fifth and final now
Starting point is 01:02:34 that i have my lipstick on you fifth and final lipstick on a pig one of my favorite girls making news julianne huff is on a press tour for her book and she's actually making a lot of news but one thing good for her because seriously no one was talking about her book and now they are well i follow her on instagram so like i've been knowing about her book and it's a fiction book so it's different it's not like we can get teasers of like her life story right it's you don't want to spoil the fiction book so anyways she has her new book coming out and she went on watch what happens live and she was asked a question carter good question i want to say we always are talking about how like andy gets a good gossip from people and he does ask really good questions but really the audience
Starting point is 01:03:10 interaction because they have people like zoom in those people like are so fucking shady they ask the craziest questions when they can like stop talking for a second yeah to the question and you just know andy like hates these people he's like thanks so much what's your question i feel like i hate it so much because I know how angry it makes Andy and how it like sets him off and ruins the show. Yeah, and he's so worried about the time of his show. No, he only likes when people compliment him when he's actively promoting something.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Like when he promotes his books, he does like a four month promotion on Watch Happens Live. Like it's brought up every single episode. And when people are like, Andy, we love you. We love your book. And he's like, hold it up. Thanks. That's the only time he likes it.
Starting point is 01:03:44 When he's not, he's like, shut up. No, seriously. Like he doesn't give the guests one minute to even answer a question. He hates that Zoom part because people always, people take advantage of it because it's their 15 seconds. I'm sure like every time they have their quarterly Watch What Happens Live meeting, like he tries to get them to stop doing that. And they're like, no, Andy, like it's good for the show.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And I think Watch What Happens Live started as like a fan fan engagement show and like so much of that has been taken away and like I think that the zoom is a core tenant of the show and Andy's like oh fine yeah no no and I'm surprised at this point they haven't just done pre-recorded people where they cut out everyone's like Andy I love you so much I've been watching housewives forever and they just cut that out and say my questions for Kim right right but it is alive most of the time so carter v wants to know if there's any if there's ever been a dancing with the stars winner that you've strongly disagreed with andy asked which is such a great question because the lore around like who gets cast on dancing with the stars who ends up winning dancing with the stars
Starting point is 01:04:38 is like highly controversial and anyone involved like between the judges or the pros they never they never talk about it very subjective like yeah so she said um and she uh mickey guyton reached over and tapped her on the arm while clearing her throat and then julianne said i think she has an answer for that about mickey guyton who was the other guest hold on and then um andy asked mickey who she said and mickey replied i just said bobby bones oh and then julianne said i actually agree with you she said and Mickey replied I just said Bobby Bones oh and then Julianne said I actually agree with you she said and I think it's because of the fan base it's all about fan base on that show he was not the best dancer right I just want to say like Mickey Guyton hates Bobby Bones that's really crazy so many things to say and like as a fan of Bobby Bones I don't appreciate the slander right and why did it have to be Bobby although I do want to say because I remember when
Starting point is 01:05:23 I wasn't watching the show, but I remember when he won, how it was like the audience was in a tizzy. Yeah, so that was like not a crazy one to say because yes, objectively, he might have not been the best dancer, but if it was just about the best dancer, they wouldn't have fan votes. Yep.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So that's what it is. I appreciate Julianne for giving an answer because these days people wouldn't give an answer. And then I have to appreciate Mickey Guyton for like pushing her to give her an answer and supplying her with one that like seems to be the right answer and that a lot of people will understand but like Mickey Guyton is like an upcoming country radio star like saying that um is kind of crazy no okay so if you don't know who Mickey Guyton is she's like a I wouldn't even say she's small she's like really having a moment but she's new to the country music scene. She's like big in country.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And like, she gets a lot of work within country music, like for CMA, CMT. And that's so Bobby Bones, right? Like he hosts all this stuff. If you don't know Bobby Bones,
Starting point is 01:06:13 he's the host of like the biggest country music, Sirius XM radio show. And I guess he went on dancing with the stars and he won. So for her to answer a question that wasn't asked to her and give an answer, nobody, nobody, Mickey Guyton throwing Bobby Bones in front of us. Giving the answer as, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:27 someone who's really powerful in country music. I feel like she hates him. Like they have beef. 100%. And then they like high-fived after for agreeing with each other, but also acknowledged that he was great on Dancing with the Stars.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Damn, that's really crazy actually. It is kind of crazy. She hates him. Yeah, she doesn't like him. Julianne, I think like was trying to be diplomatic. It's not a controversial answer. I think if you ask any Dancing with the Stars lifelong fan, they would say the season that made the least sense in terms of winter.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's a general consensus of the fans. If Mickey Guyton hadn't tossed it to her, I don't know if she would have answered. She might have not been able to drum up an answer in time anyway. No, but it makes sense. You have this huge audience you're filming a show like you literally go on your radio show to millions of people and say like vote for me yeah no and everyone's running commercials like dancing with the stars like you
Starting point is 01:07:15 would hope that everyone has a big audience that they can tap into they're supposed to yeah and it's not always just audience because the biggest people don't always win it's not it's not confirmed it has to be a mix of both yeah like decent scores and a big audience right right so but that's but like if you really don't like the fan vote part of it then that shouldn't be a part of it but i also do like that it shows that the fan votes actually matter and it's not like curated and we just like toss your votes into a bin and he must have had so many more votes than who he was up against. Like unignorable amounts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Did Charli D'Amelio win Dancing with the Stars? Because literally, how could she not? Right. She's a professional dancer with a huge audience. 100 million followers. Yeah. That's a good question. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Like if I were on her season, I just like would have stopped trying. I was seeing like people are campaigning. They want Jordan Childs to be on Dancing with the Stars. And it's like, I love her. But it really brings back to the thing we talk about at least once a year. Like, I don't understand how that's fair. How you're going to have seriously Jordan Childs up against like a 300 pound footballer. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Or like a 300 pound footballer who seriously like doesn't know his right foot from his left because he seriously just like runs for a living instead of dances. But at least Jordan Childs like is a trained gymnast. It's different than like when it's Heather Morris and seriously, Charlie D'Amelio. Charlie D'Amelio was literally the greatest dancer. Yeah, like seriously. It's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:32 But I don't think it's fair that Jordan Childs should be precluded from something that is like the next thing in her career. Like she deserves to be a part of it. She won't be precluded. It's never going to be totally even when you have people of all ages, of all genders, like it's never- Sizes, flexibilities. Professions, it's never going to be part of it. She won't be precluded. It's never going to be totally even when you have people of all ages, of all genders, like it's never-
Starting point is 01:08:45 Sizes, flexibilities. Professions, it's never going to be totally fair and like I can accept that about Dancing with the Stars. I mean, I have accepted it. I don't look for fairness. Like that's not where
Starting point is 01:08:53 I get my dose of fairness. Yes, so true. So true. But Julianne said what she said. Mickey said what she said. Let's see what happens. Yeah, let's see if they stop playing Mickey Guyton on the radio.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like- Let's see. Because country music is so old school like the way you get that's how it works yeah the way you get like popular and your songs out there it's like you have to kiss the ass of country radio hosts like radio plays such a big part in the success of a country music artist like there are probably singers you've never heard of who get played all the time and are making so much money like it's really this but you could still like it's still 2024 so like people can still get big on the internet like zach bryan yes um a lot of like smaller artists can come up that way but like there is still the traditional trajectory and i think that's the thing for pop music too like
Starting point is 01:09:37 there's still industry plans who are planned in yeah yeah but country is just like country really it's a small world like there's a few key players and like it's just little. It was brave. It's brave to call one of them out by their name for not being a good dancer. That's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening. This is our final week of shows. Well, not really.
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