The Toast - Dawgs vs. Frawgs: Tuesday, January 10th, 2023

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday! Hope everyone's having a fabulous day. Speaking of fabulous, hey Jax, how are you, Dern? I'm Dern good, thank you so much. So excited to be here on this Tuesday, to be joined by you, and to just, you know, get the week off and running. Yesterday was the longest Monday ever.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I was looking at Olivia's story and she was like, she posted something like, Monday night dinner, and I literally was writing back, Liv, it's Tuesday. And I was wrong. I was the clown. I was the fool. It's also really like kind of an important thing to acknowledge when you're wrong. It's really hard to do, but it's so important. So important for sure. But let the record show I did not send the message because I double checked with my head. No, I feel like you and I were having that conversation yesterday about like being wrong. You know, it happens. I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about. When were we talking about that? We were on FaceTime and I was obviously wrong about something. And I said, like, obviously it doesn't happen a lot, but, you know, I can be wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:04 And it's so important to acknowledge when you're wrong. own it okay yes it's coming back to me what were you wrong about see that's a thing you're the memory girl here not me so I'm not entirely sure I'm sure it was something moronic and inconsequential but nevertheless I was wrong yeah and you took ownership and we're so proud of you for that and that's all we can ask from our girl growth growth what an ugly word i love that it's literally heinous growth grow and then and then wait like growth is obviously like a beautiful thing you want people to constantly be evolving but it also can be like a lesion, like you have a growth on your face, you know? Here's the thing. Growth as a verb greater than growth as a noun.
Starting point is 00:01:51 As a noun. I completely agree. I'm glad that we've settled that today. So first episode in LA, down pat, back for number two. Hope everyone enjoyed the kind of change in scenery. A lot of people are saying like this glowy light behind me is like kind of stunning and that maybe we should like have that back at our house. Get some glowy lights. Yeah, get the brand name. Order from Amazon. You know, I'll just rip it off the wall and throw it in my suitcase. Perfect. How are you liking your time in Los Angeles? How are the Los Angelinos treating you? Well, I haven't really honestly interacted with that many Los Angelinos except for the lovely, I haven't really honestly interacted with that many Los Angelinos except for the lovely people who work at Dear Media who have been just so helpful
Starting point is 00:02:29 and so kind and so welcoming because I'm kind of like I work here now. I was here literally from like nine to five yesterday. I was like the first one in this morning because we record so early. I'm kind of like the president of this company. Are you first one in last one out? Kind of. And one thing about me is I never thought I would be that girl because I'm like definitely last one in first one out kind of vibes. But that's what happens when you have a business that you're passionate about. You know what it's like to run a business and be the first one in last one out. But you don't. But you don't. So it's been great, honestly, just like so productive. Yesterday I came back.
Starting point is 00:03:05 We did the toast and then I came back here because Ben and Josh were recording with some like premium guests like lots of comedians and I just kind of wanted to like see what was going on. And then we all went out for dinner. I went to catch like classic influencer. Did you get paparazzi'd? I didn't. But the last time I was at catch, thank you for bringing that up,
Starting point is 00:03:22 I was paparazzi'd. And then I spent the rest of the evening and the rest of the weekend looking for the paparazzi pictures online. And they were never uploaded because I'm sure they were like, oh, we took a picture of the wrong girl. No, there was footage, right? No. They got a video.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Nothing came of it. No, no. Nothing came of it. I was TMZ'd. They were asking me about Cuba Guinea Jr., the incident. And I was like more than happy to discuss with them. Here was my line. I'm very much looking forward to justice being served
Starting point is 00:03:45 yeah as she got in her car and sped away i wait no yeah like this is like a book as she slinked into her suv and drove down mill holland and then got into a bath that simmered and burned her skin we were at catch like three years ago why is it gotta burn why is it gotta burn though when we were at catch like three years ago it was is it gotta burn? Why is it gotta burn though? When we were at Catch like three years ago, it was during that whole Cuba Gooding Jr. thing. And when we were at, let's not lie. We had, I'll take responsibility. I had called, I had let TMZ know.
Starting point is 00:04:19 At no point did we lie. We just omitted that. Like we never said, you never said they recognize me. They were clamoring for me. You said like I had an interaction with paparazzi and that and by the way if you know anything about the biz you would know that Claudia called because that's the only way they show up no I'm so sorry I was about to lie and be like TMZ was waiting for me outside no bitch like I my publicist because you called them yeah my publicist at the time I was like I feel like I want to talk to TMZ and she was like sure let me arrange that and nevertheless they were there and so we were
Starting point is 00:04:48 walking out of the restaurant and he was like Claudia can I talk to you about Cuba getting junior and I was like oh okay um and it was during the time when he was on trial and so I gave his cute little interview and then some some of the other paparazzi saw TMZ talking to me and they were like oh she must be someone so they took a bunch of pictures and they never uploaded any of the footage and I was like really upset two things must be someone. So they took a bunch of pictures and they never uploaded any of the footage. And I was like really upset. Two things. One, thankfully we were vlogging and you can watch the footage on our Patreon vlog
Starting point is 00:05:11 of LA week 2019. And two, now thinking back to it and hearing you tell the story, do you think that your publicist at the time kind of just like hired someone to pretend like they were TMZ to make you think that she did her job I'm just going to assume your publicist is she because I've never met a male
Starting point is 00:05:28 publicist and I have it just that's why it was never on TMZ because it was a fake actor that's really definitely interesting that's a that's a that's a cute conspiracy theory I think that's great hoops to jump through because like my publicist would have just said, TMZ ain't interested in your unrecognizable ass. And I would have been like, okay, cool. I understand I'm not the most famous person in the world. So I don't think she necessarily went through all those hoops just to satiate my ego. Maybe she did.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I don't work with her anymore, but maybe I'll shoot her a text. We're on good terms being like, hey, girly. What's up with that? Isn't that the literal job of a publicist is to satiate your ego like no actually if you have like a good working relationship with the publicist like if i went to a publicist was like i have you know i want to be on the cover of vogue she wouldn't then be like well vogue is so busy they actually just can't fill you in she'd be like no you're not big enough for vogue. Like, not everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I think there are definitely some celebrities whose relationship with people on their team is, like, delusional. But I don't, like, I don't work like that with people. Like, tell me the truth. Like, what's going on? Okay. Except you weren't asking for Vogue. You weren't asking for Vogue. No, but, like, Vogue, like, TMZ is, like, a very reputable institution like it's my vogue yeah
Starting point is 00:06:48 but no the thing that i like about tmz i used to read it like every single day is like they would have stories about the smallest like reality stars that only i would care about from like are you the one it's like there really is no one too small for tmz and no one too big like they cover everything for everyone like if you want to read about this person, great. And if you don't, you don't have to read it. But like they really talk to the most random people. What I like about TMZ is their articles are so normal and short. It's not like they give you an essay of the history of the person and their entire family and the most like moronic facts. Like just tell us what's going on and end the article. It's okay okay the article's just
Starting point is 00:07:25 three paragraphs and other publications say we're talking about selena gomez so first we'll be like the singer the actor the um who says the who says singer the only murders actress like they keep trying to find different ways to describe her until by the end it's like the former alex russo playing wizard of waverly places like just call her fucking Selina like we don't need it's so weird how they can't just be like or even keep saying like the actress the actress the actress yeah no it's beyond annoying especially when I'm reading the stories for the show and it's like uh-huh nobody cares about like what song she sang 10 years ago. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But you know what I care about? What? I love olives. Thanks, Selena. Thanks, Selena. Well, to bring my story full circle, I did not get paparazzi last night, which was for the best. I have never packed more incorrectly for a trip in my entire life. I don't know what I'm going to be wearing for the rest of the week.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Like I have like I'm seeing friends. Like I have not a single thing to wear. So it's for the best because I was looking turnt last night in like a sweater that didn't fit me. Go to the mall. Like go shopping. Like I could, but.
Starting point is 00:08:39 What are you going to wear to the 49ers game? Oh, I'm so glad you just asked because I was, me and Ben get to San Fran this weekend, like a day before the game. So I was just going to wear to the 49ers game? Oh, I'm so glad you just asked because I was me and Ben get to San Fran this weekend, like a day before the game. So I was just going to go to like the team store and like get a cute like sweatshirt or something. But this company reached out, Bro Denim. It's like the official wear of the WAGs.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Like they make custom hoodies, custom. So they were like, do you want us to make you something? And I was like, oh my God, thank you so much. Yes, they're shipping it to my hotel in San Francisco. So I'm all set there. Thank God. Yeah. Maybe get something back up just in case it doesn't get there but the idea of you just getting a sweatshirt from the team store isn't gonna no like have you been to those team stores they're so they have like such cute stuff I mean it's fucking expensive
Starting point is 00:09:18 but they have like bomber jackets and like really cool shirts like I was gonna get something cool oh okay that is cool I wasn't gonna get like a t-shirt that says I love Kyle Juszczyk on it actually why not yeah right you know maybe I was well that's cool and exciting glad Los Angeles is treating you well yeah it is it definitely is like I could never see myself living here people everyone's always asking me that like would you ever live here no first of First of all, like, to keep the toast. Like, I'm waking up at the crack of motherfucking dawn just to get these episodes out. So that's not going to work for me. And it's just not, it's not my vibe. I don't know. It's not, it's not for me. Okay. I mean, I think it's just too far to even consider. But if it was like where Boston is bye bye peeps yeah I mean you only moved like three hours away so nobody else can move right did I say that no it's too far I think where you moved is too far oh my god I was sorry I know you I was talking about myself if that's
Starting point is 00:10:22 okay I was saying like why I would why i would never move to los angeles you think i'm gonna try and tell you what to do that's what it sounded like and i was like damn something is off today no i would never i was saying for me if i may got it yeah of course of course um the way that i live your life the way that i feel is that los ang Angeles is too far of a place for me to ever move to, though I do love the few days that I spend there at a time. And perhaps if it was as close as, say, Boston, I could consider it. I understand. Because I'm like, why the fuck does Jackie want me to live in Boston?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Like, OK, now I understand. I apologize. I'll own that one. So important to own when you're wrong. I was wrong. Okay, thank you. Thank you for that. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And so we actually have a great show today. We have so many stories because we have two stories with a lot, two categories with a lot of subsets of stories. Are we going to talk about Harry? No. Oh. Like when you say something i listen no but like now at this point you would have to like beg for me to bring back those stories like you would have to say jax i want to talk about megan and harry today no i don't i honestly just thought like
Starting point is 00:11:39 now it's at the point where it's unavoidable. No, I don't want to get chewed out again. I don't enjoy getting chewed out for my story choices. Selections. I heard you. And if you want to talk about them, you're going to have to let me know at this point. Because I'm on notice. No, no, no. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:11:57 I honestly thought you would have just taken the reins and been like, we have to. Nope. Nope. Fab. Fab, fab, fab. The no no fab the embargo stands the embargo stands i will say i did see this morning harry on the cover of people magazine and i really um that shocked me like that's so low brow it's so up until this point it's been like such so much quantity of press but it's still been relatively high quality like 60 minutes Minutes, Good Morning America.
Starting point is 00:12:28 People Magazine, like, my God, that's desperate. That's low. No, the queen is rolling over. Rolling over. Like, Prince Harry should never be on the cover of the same magazine as, like, Cody from Sister Wives, you know? No, and it's like, William and Kate are on the cover of People, like, not by choice.
Starting point is 00:12:43 No, they just put them on there. Yeah, yeah, like, that's cool when you're on the cover, People like not by choice. And like Harry. No, they just put them on there. Yeah, yeah. Like that's cool when you're on the cover just like they're talking about you, not talking with you. Oof. No, it was a People exclusive. Oof. And there's conspiracies that he made them Photoshop some more hair on his head because he's looking quite hairy. You know what?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Hairy is looking quite hairless. I agree. I feel like we're all so like bent out over William's balding when at the end of the day, William has actually embraced it completely. Like he could have gotten plugs. He is going to be fully bald in the next few years. He's owning the shit out of it. People roast him for it. And Harry's over here, like very, like thinning out balding. He's younger than William. He's going to be in the same spot as William in a few years. So let's just all let's all keep that in mind yeah balding doesn't bother me like in general especially like for men me neither i don't notice it i feel like people who like call it out or like mean
Starting point is 00:13:34 and agreed i don't care if william's balding or harry's balding like it's not how i see them no i agree i don't think i think balding for men like same for women like aging and like There are things that like plague women as they get older like I think a lot of women You know gain weight during menopause it's like things that they actively try to avoid And for men like the one thing is balding and it's not even that big of a deal Yeah it's like it's not a big deal but it's like all those things that you describe for women like No one would ever discuss those things who's like not the national inquirer you know like no one with like right you know scruples whatever call it out she has more wrinkles today no it's just like we need to do it to men about their baldness i completely
Starting point is 00:14:15 agree and i also don't think it's that big of a deal like ben does have an egghead and it's something like it's one of his like biggest insecurities the shape of his head so if he were ever to be bald like his egghead would be like really pronounced. And that's why he fears baldness. But his dad has like really long, thick hair. So I think Ben might be OK. But you could say to Ben, like, you have a wonderful shaped head. Everyone would be lucky to see it in its bald beauty.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Or I could say this, which I would like to say. Crack an egg on your head let the yolk drip down let the yolk drip down let the yolk crack an egg on your head let the yolk drip down let the yolk drip down let the yolk drip down squeeze oranges on your shoulders let the juice drip down let the juice drip down let the juice why were we always doing that shit in camp like because it gives you the chills now you've got the now you've got gives you the chills. Now you've got the, now you've got the, now you've got the chills. Now you've got the shiveries. There's nothing better than the chills.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Nothing. A chill train at camp. Like we all turn around and give each other chills. And then like we turn around and give the other person chills, give and receive. So amazing. I loved getting chills. I hated giving chills. I give myself chills all the time. Like when I can't
Starting point is 00:15:25 sleep, I noticed it's something I've done since I was a kid. Like I'm always like, we'll pick one arm up and give myself chills and then like try and fall back asleep. But like, where did these limericks come from? Cracking egg on your head. There was like so many of those things. It was all in camp, like, like little handshakes. And it was just these things that everyone, Reese's Pieces, 7-Up, mess with me, I'll mess you up. It's just traditions. Yeah, passed down through generations. Yeah, of campers and counselors. Also, that's like the toast.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Like where do all our little jigs come from? And then they get passed down to the next generation of toasters. So it's just that camper spirit. I could not have said it better myself honestly thank you thank you so much uh we were just talking about before you cracked an egg on Ben's egg-shaped head uh Harry Harry no I was going to say something about Ben's head oh yeah sure what are your thoughts on Ben's head there's always hair plugs right right I've heard that the trip back from the flights from Turkey to New York are filled with men with like head wraps on like they have bandages and their noses and their teeth and their heads so there's always turkey yeah there's always Turkish very cheap it's very cheap it's high
Starting point is 00:16:43 quality I know actually know a few people I'm. I know, I actually know a few people. I'm not going to say who, but I know a few people who've taken the trip to Turkey and come back looking, looking quite handsome. Would you say it's top quality fabric? I would say it's top quality fabric. That's actually exactly what I would say. Great. Well, speaking of top quality fabric, we have so many Bravo stories today that I'm like
Starting point is 00:17:02 very much into. And we should get into them because this is going to be a very long episode i think in total we have like eight or nine stories so good i might even cut out one i might do like four big categories jaggy the toast is a painting and you are the painter so paint away i'll see how we away. I'll see how we're doing. I'll see how we're doing. Without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know.
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Starting point is 00:19:33 You're welcome. First story, page six is exclusively revealing that Beyonce planned a collaboration with Britney Spears, but it fell through. Beyonce almost broke the internet again. The music superstar asked Britney Spears to appear it fell through. Beyonce almost broke the internet again. The music superstar asked Britney Spears to appear in a new music video, but the collaboration ultimately did not come to fruition. Multiple sources tell Page Six exclusively.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It is unclear why the plan fell through. Reps for the singers did not respond to their requests for comment. I found this story to be like one extremely random and like said who? Like, you know what I mean? Like, where does this come from? No, and it's not like reasons for the collab falling through are unknown.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Like they're pretty known. Like just look at what's going on. And it's like what? It's not like we knew that there was a collab coming and now it's falling through. It's like just to let us know that something that we had no idea about actually isn't happening. It's just like fucking weird. But I also think the idea that they would collab is weird I Think so too I was thinking the same
Starting point is 00:20:28 Thing like it's a collab that actually Makes no sense like it's if this is all True let's just operate under that Premise like that's extremely generous Of Beyonce to right to do that with Britney but like I don't think that it's I mean just have her appear in a music Video like that's fine what could happen That's highly that it's, I mean, just have her appear in a music video. Like that's fine.
Starting point is 00:20:45 What could happen? That's highly edited. It's not like they're working on a song together, performing together, but I just feel like it feels random. It feels random. I, Brittany's not really working.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like Beyonce works at an extremely high level. Like, yeah. What would they do together? No. And I, and I have to imagine that every single person in the industry at the highest level is wanting to work with Britney, whether it's singing or interviews or documentary. And
Starting point is 00:21:10 I don't think she's interested. I don't think she is wanting to do any of that. Like, I think it's nice to have everyone interested, but she's clearly her priorities are not to be famous and work as much as she can right now. I don't know what her priorities are, but they're not that. Her priority is not working. It's never going to be. I also feel like we all witness the free Britney movement, like everyone in the industry wanting to work with her, not Beyonce, like the agents and the book publishers and the TV people, like all of them wanting to work with her is very much against the spirit of the free Britney movement. Like we freed Britney so that she could like literally do nothing for the rest of her life
Starting point is 00:21:48 and just like be with her husband and be with her kids and go to Hawaii and do whatever she wants. Like if we wanted Britney to be working the way that she was working, then that's what she was doing before. Yeah. Though there, of course, is a level of work where it's like, you know, you're not doing a Vegas residence every single night versus just doing nothing in Hawaii for the rest of your life yeah but I feel like the free Britney movement like she just needs time to
Starting point is 00:22:17 herself like a long time yeah and the discourse on Britney um online like has actually really started to bother me I think like the the digital movement around Britney and when it came to her conservatorship was so powerful and like actually made a difference. And now it's taking like a really annoying turn. People, you know, decoding her Instagram, you know, look at this. It's photoshopped and look at this. She's wearing red and yellow means help. It's so moronic. And I think people just need to get used to the idea that britney's deeply unwell she's coming off of a 10-year period where she was like put on medication against her will and it's not like she was put on advil she was put on lithium like she's not she is not well like she's gonna be putting out shit that's fucking weird and concerning
Starting point is 00:22:57 because she is mentally unwell so let's not like decode it and go save her and show up to her house like sam is trying to kill her stop like she's just unwell like let's just accept that at face value for what it is yes agreed which is why she should not have to work and just be able to whatever dance in her living room and post and be weird and post these ravings on instagram yeah and i also think like people in the industry like and i'm not saying this about beyonce because like i'm i know a million people have reached out i'm sure and like wanted to work with her people need to let her be like she the elton john song was really good um and it was nice to like have her singing again
Starting point is 00:23:39 but i don't think this is going to be the beginning of an illustrious career for for this isn't the second coming of britney spears yes I agree uh and I don't really believe this Beyonce story but it's just weird and random I mean I kind of do believe it because Beyonce's music videos are like these long works of art and like she has so many like random people in it so I could see her being like yeah let's throw Britney in there like why not um I I don't think it probably ever got to a stage like that way it was even remotely confirmed it was just like an idea on a whiteboard okay right never it never left the ideation phase right but no now somebody at page six heard about it and is like making it into a thing when it's not yeah agreed okay well moving on to our next story which is a subset of stories and it's oh my gosh oh
Starting point is 00:24:27 it's a vanderpump rules trailer no the ipad started playing the vanderpump rules trailer which is our first story of the day pump rules trailer dropped and it looks un-fucking-real there's so much going on obviously tom and katie are getting divorced they're going through stages of like you know being great friends and former partners and then like being at each other's throats. Tom Schwartz and Raquel did hook up. They have footage of them kissing. Raquel's also making out with Garcelle's son. Yes. Sheena's getting married. Lala's single, talking about her new life. She's crying about, you know, things that they people say that Randall has done. It looks so good. I was shocked by how much it had me in a chokehold. Plus, like,
Starting point is 00:25:11 Schwartz and Sandys is crumbling. Yep. I'm shook to the core. I was shook, too, honestly, because Vanderpump Rules, first of all, has been off the air for like two years now who cares um but so much weirdly has happened and i do think it this could be the second coming of vanderpump rules like they've been you know on this downward spiral for like two three years but this trailer sounds very promising and i know a trailer is like supposed to sound promising um so we hold out hope but it does look very good especially like the Tom and Raquel. That's that's like kind of like a crazy ass thing. Crazy ass thing.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Um, I ship it. Then it looks like Raquel's kind of in her season of singledom, like meeting people. So it's not like they're getting into a relationship. But then she's also kind of having a mental breakdown and the cast members are saying that she's not OK. So she's obviously going through something. James has a new girlfriend who's on the scene but what I also found was interesting is the new cast photos out and it's usually like the cast members
Starting point is 00:26:10 that you know and love and like everyone else who's even spoken one word on the show this cast photo is just the mains they've really like trimmed it back main uh let me find the photo I forget who like is Charlie main no I didn't see her and James's girl right now that I think about it actually looks like Charlie um maybe I posted it this morning no but right exactly like someone like Peter's not in the cast photo even though he always is I think Raquel goes on a date with Peter in the trailer too oh my Peter is just like being kept on staff to go on a date with someone every five years yeah I can't believe he's still single okay here's the picture Raquel Sheena
Starting point is 00:26:52 Ariana Tom Sandoval Lisa Tom Schwartz James Lala Katie good I mean no Brock no you know what I mean like good so even though he's on the show their their wedding is on the show and he's clearly a character like they did the opposite of what they always do which is like putting everyone in that promo picture and in the that promo scene and instead they're like these are the cast members that we're focusing on good it was too much of an ensemble for the last few years when they were like merging this new generation and the old generation it was like Danica it was just too many people so the I the concept of them whittling it down I think is actually really good and not everyone's partner
Starting point is 00:27:32 needs to be a full-time cast member Brock James's new girlfriend like not everyone's boyfriend needs to be like the star you know yes yes I agree just plugging in my computer charger. Sorry, take your time. I'm sorry, my computer charger. I do agree. And it also just kind of draws a line in the sand because the last few years, things were really wishy-washy. Like, are we gonna go with the varsity team? Are we gonna go with JV?
Starting point is 00:27:56 And it's like, they've made a choice. And I personally, I love a choice in general. I love when you've made a choice and I feel as though this was the right choice. So I have like a renewed interest in Vanderpump Rules in a big way. No, me too. It was, the trailer was definitely trailing. It was giving what it was meant to be given. Like it was creating hype. I don't know if it'll fall flat compared to the actual season, but it looks very good and it was a very good trailer. And I think there's a lot of reasons to be excited about it. Also yesterday, we literally were talking about the Randall thing and it sounds like at the
Starting point is 00:28:27 end of the trailer when Lala's talking about like how she's freaking out if she doesn't know what people are accusing Randall of to be true if she's referring to that if she's referring to just the infidelity like it seemed cryptic yeah it did and timely so the show premieres when does the show premieres. When does the show premiere? That's a great question. I thought I saw. I don't know. Hopefully soon. I hate long teasers.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Me too. I'm ready for Vanderpump Rules. Like maybe it's because I'm like in my L.A. era. But like it's the vibe, you know. You are in your L.A. era. Yeah. Okay. More Bravo news.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Page Six is also reporting that Katherine Dennis has not been asked back to Southern Charm for the first time in eight seasons. Katherine has reportedly been fired from the show
Starting point is 00:29:15 after starring on it for eight seasons. A source told the US Sun on Monday that her contract was not renewed for season nine due to several no-shows and her behavior towards staff. She said, quote, I know Bravo didn't offer her her a contract but when you treat people poorly like she has
Starting point is 00:29:28 they finally get sick of it she doesn't show up on time or show up at all during filming a lot as southern charm fans will recall her screen time on the show began declining after her breakup with caleb quote she treats people like they are beneath her she can't stand anyone doing better or getting more attention than her okay this seems like someone with an axe to grind personal vendetta you don't know like what Catherine thinks or feels but as a viewer I can say that I think her schedule and her timing she's just like a late person she's someone who like makes last minute decisions she also has two kids so like sometimes things come up she can't go to everything I imagine that part is frustrating where it's like we're no longer going to be on Catherine time yeah no I could see a world in which she like doesn't prioritize
Starting point is 00:30:10 filming is late to everything like wastes people time I could totally see that being the truth but as far as like she doesn't care about others and she doesn't want anyone having more attention than her calm down first of all if she was really that awful she wouldn't have been on for eight seasons like the right that speaks for itself when there were that awful, she wouldn't have been on for eight seasons. Like the right. That speaks for itself. When there were so many other times she could have been fired. And when people were calling for her to be fired, she kind of weathered all those storms. And now she's being fired. So I'm just going to put that one on ice.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And to the idea that she doesn't want people having more shine than her. I've actually never seen a cast member not want to be on a show so much like more you know literally all Catherine has to do on the show all she has to do on the show is show up and she's the main character like everyone's always talking about Catherine like everything's about Catherine and she actually doesn't even do that and even when it is about her she doesn't want it to be about her like she's the only one the only female who's been on for since the beginning and like she doesn't even act like she's the og like she it's like she doesn't like the attention this article is contradictory because those two things cannot be true she never films but she doesn't want other people to be more airtime than her
Starting point is 00:31:19 well how can that be true right if she wanted all the attention she would never miss a cash trip she would never miss a dinner. She would never show up to everything early. Right. But that's not her. She just is herself. And people are interested in her and like gravity towards her. And she's just someone who like some people, as you said, I just are the main character.
Starting point is 00:31:39 The thing is, she's not always the main character because she's not always present. Right. I don't know if I feel like she's like definitely like always the main character. I feel not always present right I don't know if I feel like she's like definitely like always the main character I feel like at one point she definitely was I found a lot of her behavior last season to be like truly abysmal I mean it makes for great television but I can imagine she's definitely could be nightmarish to work with yeah I think everyone could could see that but I think there's also a really soft side of her because people on the show, like they do really love her.
Starting point is 00:32:07 She's had these friendships for a long time. They care about her. And like Craig, who's always our barometer for who's good and who's bad. Like he loves Catherine. And I feel like she's just trying her best. No, and that's all we can ask from people, honestly. So this asshole who gave all the quotes to the son also continues to say.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It literally sounds like somebody who like had beef with her in middle school, like holding on to such a grudge and like a personal vendetta. It sounds personal. They went on to claim that Bravo even brought in a new producer to, quote, handle her behavior. Quote, I know she's had money issues and now I don't know how she's going to work. She's never had a job. I'm worried for her, but maybe this is a wake up call. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Like, calm down. Honestly, like I'm surprised this person in order to like sound believable didn't scale back a little bit on what's clearly like a very personal gripe they have with Catherine. I would also say like being on the show for eight seasons is a job. So she's had at least one. And never forget when she worked at that department store. True. Gwen's.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Guinevere's. Gwen's. You know, at Brian's house in Pennsylvania, in the attic, there is a ghost. Like the woman who lived there. The house is like from the 1700s. And the woman who lived there in the 1700s and who died in the attic, her name was Guinevere. R.A.P.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Rip. All right. Rip Guinevere. Rip Guinevere. And again, I'm with all of these stories today. I'm just like, I don't necessarily believe the veracity,
Starting point is 00:33:40 but yeah, I'm taking it. You know, I'm just going to go along with a healthy dose of skepticism and I'll say that if this is true I will I will be missing Catherine on the show especially because it's always sad when a show's been on for a long time and then an OG goes because at this point only Shep and Craig will be OGs left right I do think that this similar similarly to Vanderpump Rules this really is an ensemble cast
Starting point is 00:34:05 and i don't think one person leaving can really make or break it and if there was i don't think that person is katherine i really think southern charm is special in the way that like there's not one major star like i feel like for vanderpump rules for a while it was like the stassi show so like her leaving like definitely impacted the show in a major way and i feel like with southern charm like they really all are everyone has a favorite there's not like one person maybe for a while it was Shep but like everything comes and goes and it ebbs and it flows and I don't think one even an OG leaving would really impact the show that much no not at all and every season it's a new story that we're focused on like a new couple I don't even know what it's going to be next season it might be Taylor Shep's ex who's
Starting point is 00:34:42 you know now single and and the whole country is rooting for her. Yeah. And Tom Schwartz. And Tom Schwartz, who she said she wanted to be set up with. Right. Okay, great. Are you ready for our next story? Yes.
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Starting point is 00:36:56 And you don't have to take a trip to Turkey. Kitch greater than Turkey. Turkey. Message of today's lesson. are you ready for our next story which is just story two subset three yes real housewives ultimate girls trip season forecast announced they are going to marrakech and here who is joining that wasn't english. Here is joining. Caroline Manzo, Real Housewives of New Jersey. Iconic.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Alex McCord of Real Housewives of New York City. Pause. Pause. I cannot put into words. Whoever was responsible for this has my undying love and devotion. Not only that Alex McCord is making a return to the franchise, but that she's going to Morocco where she was accused of being a buffalo coming down the stairs. So next level, iconic. Even Louis Vuitton makes mistakes. I have not been excited about something in Housewives, like in the realm of the Housewives for many, many months. And Alex McCord is out here reinvigorating my spirit. love this queen Johan and Francois
Starting point is 00:38:05 mom I recently re-watched the first couple of seasons of Beverly of New York Housewives during the pandemic and I have to say like the way we were so mean to Alex McCord simply because she lived in Brooklyn like I stand this queen till the day I die and now she's living her best life being a psychologist in Australia and I cannot wait to see that bitch in Morocco yeah I feel like everyone who's on the cast and there are some big names here that I will read I think everyone who's joining thinks that they are the biggest name some of them could make the argument for themselves but without question Alex McCord being on this is the biggest get for Peacock period yep period end of story a gird Eva Marcel and Phaetra Parks from Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Brandi Glanville and Camille Grammer from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And Vicky Gumbelson and Gretchen Rossi from Real Housewives of Orange County. Okay, now correct me if I'm wrong because I only watched five minutes of the dreadful Berkshires. Eva, Phaedra, Brandi, and Vicky
Starting point is 00:39:03 were all in the Berkshires and now they're doing another season of Girls Trip Thank you I mean if I got cast on Ultimate Girls Trip And I had to go to Massachusetts And other women were going to like Thailand and Morocco And Turks and Caicos Like I'd be pissed too
Starting point is 00:39:16 So I'm glad they're getting a second chance Because it ain't fair But life isn't fair So I'm glad they're getting a second chance But I was confused I'm like why does this sound like hella repetitive? Yeah I mean maybe they performed well on that season. You know what's so crazy?
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's like the Thailand one. I didn't hear a thing about it. Like, I think it aired already. Did it? No. Oh, no. OK, so maybe that's why I haven't heard about it. No, wait.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I feel like it was announced so long ago. Like, it has to have already come out. No, that's why I haven't heard about it No wait I feel like it was announced so long ago Like it has to have already come out No that's an amazing question Because why would they announce season 4 UGT season 3 No way did it come out And we heard nothing about it No it didn't come out I'm probably wrong
Starting point is 00:40:00 It didn't come out Okay I'm wrong Okay you're wrong Thank god I was like oh my god So important to acknowledge when you're wrong Js okay but they filmed that so long ago i feel like i've seen so many pictures of like heather gay in thailand and when does it come out i don't know that's an amazing question and i hate to announce season four when season three
Starting point is 00:40:19 hasn't even come out yet right like do you guys deserve a season four even okay now you're making me think like maybe it didn't hold on no no I feel like it definitely didn't because I look at page six every day and like even when the Berkshire was happening and I wasn't watching like I saw headlines it's scheduled to premiere in 2023 okay so it didn't come out yet no it did not come out yet but I will say I did think it was weird now that I'm thinking about it maybe I don't that like four of these women have already been on a show together. But it's kind of nice that now it adds another layer.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, it's a group of women who don't know each other. You and me got a whole lot of history. Okay, it goes like this. Oh, God. You and me got a whole lot of history. Oh, no. We could be the greatest team that the world has ever seen. You and me.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I love that song. Thank you for bringing that back to our attention. And yes, it adds another layer. It's a group of women who don't know each other and some of them who do. That's the importance of history. History 101. Importance. Of history. do that's the importance of history history 101 importance of history is incredibly important no is incredibly important period that's such such a valuable thing you've just said yeah i think and people don't realize it they're all about the future they're all about thinking
Starting point is 00:41:43 about the future now we actually sound like one of those like inspirational podcasts that like actually don't say sentences that have any actual meaning. Like, no, no, no, stop. Let's do a bit that we can make into a reel that would be like one of those podcasts. Not like for our reels, but just so that like then people think, oh, maybe this is a podcast I could go to to get some of that nonsense, you know? OK, OK, hold on. Maybe this is a podcast I could go to to get some of that nonsense, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Okay. Okay. Hold on. So I feel like it's really important to always be intentional with what you do because once you feel like super intentional and, um, attentive with your body, it, it'll change your life. Like I've noticed a visible shift in my intentions. That's so true that you said that. And I feel like for me, when I want to set intentions, it's so important to look to the past in order to see the future. And you can see the future through the lens of the past. And what
Starting point is 00:42:39 we've been given in the present is a gift. That, wow, I'm actually like I'm getting emotional because when I went through my journey, I discovered that too, you know, how important the past is, but also not to forget about the present. And of course, you know, the future can really help you be intentional. But without that understanding of the past and the present, we have no future and the children have no future. And you know what I believe? I believe the children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way. I'm literally Jenna Maroney. Like whenever I sing that song, I feel like Jenna Maroney. Who sings that song? Jenna Maroney. Right. Okay. So I feel like Jenna Maroney who sings that song
Starting point is 00:43:25 Jenna Maroney right okay so it makes sense that you think like that okay I think when we post that real like we're gonna get so many new listeners yeah who are gonna come to this podcast looking for like intentional wellness and they're gonna find like two fucking brain dead morons being like rice and strice no but but that's a podcast that sounds like a real podcast podcast no like sometimes i'll see clips of like people who do like really like intent like i don't even know what the genre is who just do like podcasts about like intention nonsense jargon nonsense podcast jargon and i'm like this is a sentence that's not sentencing like it makes not one iota of sense yeah that people will comment and be like so true what no that's one of my biggest pet peeves in life
Starting point is 00:44:15 are people and maybe that's why I wasn't cut out for the corporate world people who say sentences that don't say anything and maybe like they say a paragraph and within that paragraph, there's like one thing I can thread through. But like every sentence matters. I completely agree. So that's who's on Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip season four. It sounds good. Mostly because of Alex McCord.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Honestly, the rest are just like, sure, great. I mean, Camille Grammer is kind of a great get too. The rest are supporting characters to Alex McCord's main character energy. I agree, Camille Grammer would have been the main character of this season if not for Alex McCord signing up. And I'm actually really looking forward
Starting point is 00:45:01 to seeing what Alex McCord is like. I think we definitely caught her at a unique time in her life. I know like her kids are grown now. She's like much. She's like gotten her education. She's probably really different because she was like so fucking desperate on the early days of New York. Like could not get arrested.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Just wanted to be invited places. And it was like the one thing people would not give her was an invitation. Mostly because she lived in Brooklyn. So I would like to see like how she's matured. 100%. 100% are you ready for our next story yeah which is a bit of cancer cancel culture news because Chris Harrison is this what you thought I was gonna say no no I was just ready I'm preparing myself for like a hot take on cancel culture no no you could sit down like it's it's just about Chris Harrison is launching launched his podcast called the most dramatic podcast ever with Chris Harrison and he dropped the first two episodes and honestly from what I've seen he's spilling the tea he talks about how he lost 20 pounds and was scared to
Starting point is 00:46:03 death amid the bachelor controversy fallout. So I'm going to read all the details, some of the quotes that he shared, because like he's naming some names. He's speaking out for the first time about the controversy that led to his abrupt exit from Bachelor Nation. He said, quote, I was heartbroken. I was gutted. I was embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I was mad at myself. I was disappointed in myself. The last thing in the world I would ever want to do was to be an agent of anything negative, whether it had to do with race or anything. He also revealed the personal toll that the controversy took on him after decades of hosting the ABC franchise. Quote, things put out of control for a number of reasons, and I was sick, sick to my stomach. I lost 20 pounds. I didn't sleep. I didn't eat. I was scared to death. It was just one gut punch after the other, and mentally and physically, I deteriorated pretty bad. He admitted that during the interview he was not his normal
Starting point is 00:46:49 eloquent self. Quote, I didn't express myself like I normally do. I think that part we all agree on. But as far as my standing in the community and the show, it really didn't register on the Richter scale. There were so many more egregious things going on in the world and things that had happened. He said though that his apology was warranted because he did misstep and he did make a mistake. He said during the fallout, he recalled certain cast members campaigning to take over his hosting duties. He said that Nick Vile no doubt wanted to take his job. Oh, my God. This is what he said.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Quote, Nick wasn't really strongly against me or said anything, but I think Nick was one of those among many who probably saw the blood in the water. He saw the opportunity of a job that would be really phenomenal, and no doubt he wanted that job. He noted that in addition to Nick, there were plenty of other stars from the franchise who seemingly used his exit for their benefit. He said, quote, it helped them with their 15 minutes of fame. He was definitely not shocked by their behavior
Starting point is 00:47:45 he said it's the people that you would expect i knew about certain cast members that were calling in it was hilarious and the funny thing is the people that were calling in like asking for the job he said quote i knew had had no chance to get the job meanwhile other bachelor nation stars including sean and katherine lowe lauren and ari leindyke andy dorfman and ben higgins reached out to chris privately and showed their support for him following the controversial exit he also Sean and Catherine Lowe, Lauren and Ari Leindyke, Andy Dorfman and Ben Higgins reached out to Chris privately and showed their support for him following the controversial exit. He also specifically applauded Wells Adams as being one of the first to reach out. However, he told Chris at the time that he was going to stay out of the drama due to his recurring bartending gig on
Starting point is 00:48:18 Bachelor in Paradise and his future within the franchise. Chris said, I appreciated him because if anybody had sights on the job, it was easily Wells. Yeah. And deservedly so, by the way. I thought, to be completely candid, that Wells was going to get the job. I thought it was the easiest call. He's in the family. Everybody loves him. It just seemed like a layup that Wells did not get the job. Jesse Palmer. Jesse Palmer. Wow. OK. It's just funny how like for so long, know chris harrison was above all this like he had the greatest job in the world there was so much infighting within bachelor nation like drama and he was never a part of it he had the best job he'd show up for an hour go home and make a million dollars now he's just like the rest of us getting on podcasts dropping names i find the nick vile
Starting point is 00:48:59 thing to be the most interesting um and it's clear there's there's beef there I don't even remember Nick Vile being so vocal during that scandal Chris didn't say he was vocal Chris said if actually he wasn't vocal at all but like he said no doubt that Nick was kind of like positioning himself for the job probably in not being vocal and not like taking a hard stance and just like positioning himself as a good choice for it and he would have been as far of the people in bachelor nation who are talking heads he would definitely be on the short list right there with wells because he is a professional commentator now and did chris say anything about his standing with rachel not in the the quotes that I saw but it is actually Rachel Lindsay
Starting point is 00:49:45 and Rachel Kirkenell both Rachel episode podcast it could be in there I didn't listen to the episodes these were some of the pull quotes that made it out but you know and maybe that's just the juiciest parts of it but I don't know two episodes and you're finally mentioning it all I would imagine that there's more within these episodes that's worth listening to I agree if you really care like I'm so out of Bachelor world. Like, I find this juicy, but not enough to, like, care and sit down and listen. I feel like even before the Chris Harrison thing, the show was on its way down. And then that whole scandal just really kind of spiraled it even further into oblivion.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. I would say that that was the beginning. That was the end. Yeah. I don't think it was the beginning of the end I think it had already begun and then that was really like the nail in the coffin yeah oh my god I saw a headline the other day naming the new bachelor and it was the first time that I didn't recognize the name the face the person anything like because usually it's like someone from the previous season who I've been seeing in headlines so I'm like okay Gabby Rachel uh I never saw this man in my life or heard of his name it's it's so crazy there was a time when it was the biggest show when even just being associated with it
Starting point is 00:50:56 would make you you know give you a career it was so powerful and it felt like it would be that way forever yeah but nothing lasts forever, McClard. No, but I thought The Bachelor would, honestly. Yeah. Well, so now I wonder what his angle on podcasting is going to be. I really don't think he can, like, be sitting down with Bachelor people. I think that would be a major step down to go from, like, being the king of Bachelor Nation to, you know, just another court jester.
Starting point is 00:51:23 But, like like why would his podcast title reference the show like it feels like it's just like it's visibility for him and he could turn it to be having dramatic interviews with I don't know a horse race owners because like he used to do broadcasting for he does races yeah that's what he did before the i literally i think you're gonna say he could have sit-down interviews with whores that too and that would also be an extremely dramatic podcast that would be you know i guess it could just be like a dramatic interview series it's not always going to be about the bachelor but he needs to find an angle he can't just be like a podcaster who commentates on pop culture. Cause like at one point he was pop culture. Like, but I think he is a very good interviewer,
Starting point is 00:52:08 talking head, broadcaster, and he needs to find what his thing is. Maybe Chris Harrison has like interests and maybe he'll be, you know, the number one, like fishing podcast where it's like very dramatic talking about like all these different catches.
Starting point is 00:52:22 No, I could definitely see it becoming a podcast about fishing. That's an amazing point. So I think he really needs to do a 180 and find a niche for himself. Me too. But I also appreciate him taking the first two episodes. So like, let's talk about the elephant in the room. Like what's going on? Give us the tea. But then maybe now we're going to do a podcast about elephants and what's going on in the elephant community. I mean, if you haven't seen the documentary An Apology to Elephants, like, please, it's less than an hour. It's so short and it's the best documentary on the planet.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It could become some sort of true crime interview podcast where he talks to victims of crime. Perhaps. It could be anything. The world is his oyster. It could become a podcast where I feel like people have tried to do this, but I can't think of one that's won out where he talks to cancel people. That actually would be an interesting podcast. I would love to be on the episode. Yeah, I think that someone should do that podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah, that's actually a really good call. Like you just go through their whole scandal and like break it down. Yeah, exclusively cancel people. But then there would be other better titles for that podcast but i guess it would again be a dramatic podcast yeah yeah no that's good there the possibilities are endless for chris we're wishing him well in the podcasting sphere you know we enjoy it here we hope you like it here welcome welcome welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the podcast sphere. Bum, bum.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Should it be our final? Tell me the last two stories and I'll tell you if we should just choose one or both. One or four. Ashley Simpson Ross talks the nerve wracking moment she played music for her mother-in-law, Diana Ross. Okay. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's like, what's the fifth? Fifth, Gwyneth Paltrow recalls the wild 90s party scene and how she was doing cocaine and not getting caught. That one. Skip to it. Gwyneth Paltrow joined James Corden on the Late Late Show with James Corden. And she admitted there was a time when she wasn't such a health and wellness guru like she is now. And she was surrounded by such unhealthy influences. She was on the show promoting her four-part Audible series, The Goop Pursuit.
Starting point is 00:54:39 While this year's Golden Globe nominee, Hilary Swank, was discussing Alaska Daily. Corden said, you both came up in the 90s, which is having quite the renaissance at the moment, the fashion, the music. What was it like for both of you being so famous at a time when there was no social media, no nothing? What do you remember about that time? She said, Gwyneth, it was great.
Starting point is 00:54:59 I mean, talk about doing cocaine and not getting caught. Like you could just be at a bar and be like having fun, dance on a table. You could, no camera phones, especially in New in New York interestingly enough there were no paparazzi you could stumble out of a bar and go home with some rando and no one would know hmm well honestly I do often think about how like being famous is obviously great I do think this is like the worst time ever to be famous like there's really never been more of like a lack of privacy for people and like because of phones and everything but also people celebrity culture has gotten so fucked that people have no boundaries anymore like people have really lost their marbles
Starting point is 00:55:35 so i do often think about how like back in the day like judy garland she like left her house four times a year and like was rolling like raking in the dough but I also think like before the cell phones and I kind of in like maybe like the flip phone era very much like early 90s I think that was probably like the most iconic time to be famous yeah but I also feel like even though celebrities don't have privacy these days they they have a way of doing their thing and you know I don't you don't see a video every day of a celebrity doing cocaine but like celebrities do cocaine no for sure for sure no there's a way to do cocaine and not get caught I completely agree but what I'm saying I'm not talking about just cocaine I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:56:15 like just celebrity life and right now like I think our culture is probably the most it's ever been obsessed with celebrities and like I don't know't know, it kind of, it kind of sucks. Yeah, it does. And I also think, you know, us, the way that we engage with celebrities, it makes the whole experience like more transient and your time is up even faster. There's someone new who's going to come up.
Starting point is 00:56:40 But it's like anything else, there's pros and cons. So that would be a con of like internet culture. But a pro is that anybody can get famous. And like, even though people who have the resources and the access have a leg up, everyone has access to YouTube. Like Justin Bieber is famous because of YouTube. Like-
Starting point is 00:56:58 No, you're a hundred percent right. There's definitely pros and cons. I think another pro of like the digital space while it is so toxic is there's so much money to be made so many celebrities who don't even like do like they make more money on their like moronic instagrams than they do from like acting right right no totally there's definitely benefits but I I think maybe it's because it's in the past and you look back on things fondly and like through a nostalgic lens but it does feel like being famous in the 90s was probably so much more fun oh for sure I mean the 90s were just fun we were like five and six but we were having a ball yeah no but like now when you look back on that like those
Starting point is 00:57:35 like the club era and really everyone was like just doing drugs like it looks fun yeah but you also had like enough technology to make your life simpler like you had a cell phone but it just made calls you know but you could communicate with the next person like where's the next party but it doesn't you know also hold your hand while you're taking a shit like no and wipe your ass for you a hundred percent exactly like i and that's what gwyneth was saying and she really like her like like old photos when you look back on them like it's just so iconic. Yeah. Also it's like you could call up for delivery and get delivery to your door but you didn't have Uber Eats where it's like two seconds.
Starting point is 00:58:15 So simple. No. So you really have like the same like accessibility to stuff but just not the same like level of accessibility. Yeah. Which is too much accessibility. I agree no it does feel like to be like an actual like major celebrity these days like I I do feel like there's probably a lot of parts of it that are extremely annoying like the lack of privacy the way like your
Starting point is 00:58:35 like fan culture has become so toxic and so invasive and a lot of that has to do with the internet I think there's a like a lot of things about being famous in in this day and age that like stink yeah it reminds me did you see that video of bad bunny what he think there's like a lot of things about being famous in this day and age that like stink. Yeah, it reminds me. Did you see that video of Bad Bunny? Yes. He was with a fan. Like a fan was like
Starting point is 00:58:50 following him. Shoving her phone. Walking with his entourage in Dominican Republic and then she like comes up to him shoves her phone in his face
Starting point is 00:58:58 to like take a selfie or FaceTime whatever and he grabbed it and he chucked it. I loved every minute of that. Like people deserve privacy. People deserve personal space. And if you're not gonna respect that,
Starting point is 00:59:09 fuck around and find out. And she did. She found the fuck out. She found her phone in the bush. Yeah, she found her phone in the bush and now she can tell everyone that bad bunny threw my phone. There, you got your story.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I was obsessed with that moment. Like, no, yeah, fans, you should respect your fans. They gave you your career, yada, yada, yada. People deserve personal space. And if you can't respect that your phone's going in the bush yeah i totally agree it's not like she sent a meet and greet like yeah no he's literally just walking like a human being like the way we've just put these celebrities on a pedestal to the point where they're not human beings anymore and we feel like we can grab them and touch them inappropriately. Like it's beyond. We are not OK. No. But that, as always, is the takeaway from every episode of The Toast. People are not OK. And as long as you keep that in mind, I think you'll do well in this life. I really do. And just, you know, know that and try
Starting point is 01:00:00 not to be a part of the problem as best as you can. And then the more people who listen to the toast, the less people who are part of the problem. Hence, world peace. By the way, just following up on a story from yesterday about the Zogs and the Frogs, the Zogs won. And apparently like they won by like 50 points and all these people who flew to LA
Starting point is 01:00:20 to see their Texas Christian University Frogs play like kind of wasted their time yeah well i'm sure it was exciting they were called like the horny toted frogs or something like that the toast horn something the horn the horn frogs yeah yeah fucking weird um i'm sure i don't i've never heard of tcu and the horn frog so i imagine that they are not in the national championships often so it was probably like exciting to just go to a championship uh even though they fucking wipe the court with you yeah they wipe the dogs wipe the floor with the frogs and um i live in new york you know what should have been the theme song of the national championship you. You ain't nothing but a dog player.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I get it. Frog player. I get it. I completely agree. No, that's just a free marketing idea for the next time TCU goes up against Georgia Dawgs. Wishing well to all of our Tennessee Central University students and fans.
Starting point is 01:01:26 But I'm happy for you guys that you made it to the championship. Like imagine if Colgate made it to the championship you wouldn't see me complaining that we didn't win. It's not about the destination it's about the journey. Yeah it brought the community together. It was very exciting for all of you and you should be grateful. It centralized the Tennessee Central University community. Yeah because people don't centralized the Tennessee Central University community. Yeah, because people don't know about Tennessee Central. You think it would be in like central Tennessee, but it's not. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:51 You'd think it would be centrally Tennessean. But it's pretty like, it's kind of borders the border. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like not central. I think that's our cue to end this episode So without further ado Thank you so much for listening to The Toast The millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories
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