The Toast - Dear Tom (Raquel's Version): Thursday May 18th, 2023

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to The Toast. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone's having a great day thus far. Thus far, great day. Great thus, day far. Right. I'm so glad we got that kind of like cleared up. Yeah, every permutation.

Though I know you're not really having a great day thus far. I'm running late. I'm so sorry. Literally, I like did a panel this morning. No big deal. Yeah, just like kind of like a huge convention you know talking about the business of podcasting business of social media what was the convention ad week colon social media week oh cool yeah cool yeah no and there was tons of toasters in attendance my age I see the agency agency toasters like they're alive and well yeah

no we have every agency community I believe that yeah and it was great and it went so well and literally took me almost two hours to get home you know when you're like a fucking road raging like I was gonna put my hands around someone's neck and choke them out and it was gonna be the fucking crossing guard in Queens like what's what are you doing? What are you doing? Like, if I seem a little on edge today, that's fucking why. Oh my God, I was like literally. No, you need to get it out of your system. I was crawling out of my motherfucking skin

in the back of this motherfucking car. You're gonna have to get it out of your system now. We honestly. You continue to like talk about it until it's over. I don't wanna talk about it. Like, it's seriously trauma. I don't wanna talk about it. about it okay but I'm just saying if I seem a little on edge today it's because I literally almost choked a person okay and that person's not gonna be me no no no it would have been the crossing guard in Queens great but you're not feeling choky now you don't

want to send someone to the choky I don't want to send someone to the choky I don't know we'll see because you like it because I like it well you look great so that's a good happenstance thank you from the event I was really like excited to come on here and like you know be delightful but you know life gets in the way when you live in New York City yeah so we're recording late today the episode will be up sorry guys but we have so much to do today we are all caught up Vanderpump Rules we watched do today. We are all caught up. Vanderpump rules. We watched it all. I actually am all caught up

on Real Housewives of New Jersey. Cool. Did you see that Bo Dietl is like the center of the drama? I saw that in page six today. Because there's a lot of talk about private investigators. And Louis like made an offhand remark

in the finale. He's like, I know things about all of you guys. Bo Dietl. Just basically implying that he hired an investigator for him. And then on Watch What Happens Live, he cleared it up. He was like, I know things about all of you guys. Bo Dietl. Just basically implying that he, excuse me. Hired an investigator for him. And then on Watch What Happens Live, he cleared it up.

He was like, I was just saying stuff. And then Bo Dietl said he did not work with Louis and investigate housewives. Right. So why the fuck did you bring it up? Like, it was so weird. Louis is so fucking toxic and weird. Yeah, he seems like crazy. So.

He's certifiable. And honestly, before the finale party party which was like this crazy explosive party he was like me like like right now with like he was fucking activated about some shit like his face was so fucking red he was like ready to choke someone and the party hadn't even started how was the season I'm not gonna lie I did skip with some of the early episodes like it was it was boring to the t but I apparently like Melissa and Teresa are irreparable like and I wanted to know what happened and I've seen so much chatter online like team tree and I'm like Melissa and Teresa Are irreparable Like and I wanted To know what happened And I've seen so much Chatter online

Like team tree And I'm like Oh okay I've been team Melissa This whole time But like let's see What's up I'm still team Melissa

Of course you are No it's People are insane No but you typically Don't agree with We typically don't agree With the masses On housewives

But then I did a poll On my Instagram And it was I was just genuinely Curious I'm like Are people team tree now And it was 75% Melissa So I just think maybe like that's your fans yeah that's true that's true i mean i like good track you know logical energy yeah but we as discussed

like the bravo fan is all over the place can be wrong they do buy tickets to tom sandoval's and the most extras right speaking of um real housewives i wanted to tell you about this event i went to last night for lemmy the uh gummy vitamin company that corny kardashian started with simon they hosted like an event to celebrate the fact that they're being sold in ulta and i got seated next to uba i saw on your instagram who is one of the new real housewives of new york and you know i don't want to be a freak like obviously like i knew who she was she was like uba i'm like oh nice to meet you i'm claud Claudia um and then we like started chit-chatting we just like talked the whole time and then by the end I could be like yeah bitch I know like I know everything um she like actually made me want to watch the show she's a delight like she's so funny she's

an amazing story I couldn't believe when she told me she's 40 I literally thought she was 18 like she's stunning you would have thought she's like at the height of her modeling career. I mean just a real delight and she was so, we had like a deep convo, you know? Yeah. She is very religious but she was saying

she eats halal and I was telling her how I eat kosher and she's like, I eat at kosher restaurants pretty much exclusively because kosher food is considered halal

and she was like, have you been to Pastrami Queen? I'm like, have I been to Pastrami? She's like, I get a sandwich here every day. Like she was just so cool and she actually really made me want to watch the show and she was like telling me, she was like getting have you been to Pastrami Queen? I'm like, have I been to Pastrami? She's like, I get a sandwich here every day. Like, she was just so cool.

And she actually really made me want to watch the show. And she was, like, telling me. She was, like, getting me hyped about it. She's like, it's really good. Okay. And she really is, like, so fabulous that I'm like, well, maybe the group is fabulous. Like, she was oozing just, like, fabulosity and beauty and glamour. Well, last night during Vanderpump Rules, there was a commercial for New Housewives.

And like you said, it was just, like, them smiling. There was no footage. But it was giving, like a commercial for New Housewives and like you said it was just like them smiling there was no footage but it was giving like season one Real Housewives of New York just like here's the cast and then literally right after I saw that

I saw Uba on your Instagram story and that's how I knew who she was and we shared a cab home like we're like best friends like she was like let's go do dinner

and I didn't know if like she meant it but like I'm gonna be following up for like dinner plans at Pastrami Queen literally literally it was just it was fabulous like I was She was like, let's go do dinner. And I didn't know if, like, she meant it. But, like, I'm going to be following up for, like, dinner plans. At Peshawar Queen. Literally. Literally.

It was just, it was fabulous. Like, I was just not expecting to, like, make a new best friend. Oh, I'm so happy for you. No, we really connected on a deep level. Like, my half of the table, like, we got deep. We were talking about, like, religion. There was another girl there who was Jewish and Israeli. So we were just, like, getting deep.

That's so great. Yeah. We were just kind of, like, holding court at the end of the table, you know? That's so great. And how was the rest of the court At the end of the table You know That's so great And how was the rest Of the event It was fabulous How was the satchel

The food I heard that Satchel Was there Satchel was there Satchel was in attendance Satchel had to go To another thing So she like left

Kind of early Which kind of Kind of opened me up To like open my heart Up to UBA Like you know When you get to go It's such a privilege

To get to go to these events Like with a built in plus one Because Margo's obviously Like an influencer So you know people Really show up to these things there it's a seat at dinner it's not a free-for-all people show up by themselves and it could be hard but you have to put yourself out there but having a built-in satch is amazing but it is a crutch because you could be clicky we were you know we're the worst and once she left I felt like you know

I gotta I gotta do my thing and I opened my heart up to receive love from Uba beautiful yeah oh and Uba has known Taylor Strecker forever so I felt like that was like a good um like starting conversation like hey like I know Taylor and she was telling me how she knew Taylor when she was married I didn't know Taylor when she was married she was like it was she was just explaining to me she was like two different Taylors like it it was, I actually like, I was like jealous that she knew Taylor Strecker. Like I don't know that part of Taylor. Yeah. She was like, it was so crazy.

That's crazy. I know. That's like when we watch your old vlogs. Exactly. TTV. Check it out. So it was really a fabulous night out with the girlies. And then I ran home.

I was like, I'm going to leave early and just run. But I was having such a nice time and the food was so good. I was like, why should I run? And then I did end up running home. But I stayed like I'm gonna leave early and just run but I was having such a nice time and the food was so good I was like why should I run and then I did end up running home but I stayed like a good amount of time and we watched random pump rolls and Ben was like oh I want to go to sleep I'm like shut up and he was obsessed all day Zach was like do you know what tonight is I was like yeah we were so excited to watch YouTube TV like crapped out last night the second half of watch what happens live I googled I like looked on Twitter and I think it was because of the NBA game that was happening

like Andy said it was because of Ariana I know um and then I gave up and I went to sleep so I might have missed the latter half of convo it was fine honestly it you know Andy he like Q&A Q&A Q&A there's no rapid fire there's no real conversation ever I watched Robbins Live. And that's probably my biggest pet peeve with it. Having said that, last night's episode I just needed answers. And it was literally question. It was like a toss back. Question, answer, question, answer.

And you know what? It was actually a good episode. Yeah. She looked great. I enjoyed what I watched up until it gave out. Has anybody ever said or thought that Ariana Maddox looks like Serena Kerrigan? Because when she walked out I was like oh my god. looked i literally thought it was serena kerrigan good call right and maybe it was just the hair up serena always wears her hair up like that with

the two pieces but i was just like oh my god and i was just with serena i was like they don't not look alike they don't not look alike like i look alike i like a look alike so we've got a great show um programming update i think a lot of people predicted this we're gonna move to your toasters that we missed yesterday because of the construction. Let's do tomorrow when it's like low key. Today I need to just catch up. Like we need to just chat. Yeah.

And it's already late. That would make the episode go up later. So we'll do it tomorrow. And I feel good about giving advice on a Friday. I feel good about that too. I just hope everyone whose quandaries are waiting like they can wait one more day. Yeah. Hopefully there's nothing urgent.

Like timely. Yeah. Yeah. How was your night? My night was... Look at me over here just talking about myself. Someone like me. My night was lovely.

It was low key. Did you watch Vanderpump Girls Live with commercials? Yes. Most, like we started maybe like eight minutes in. We paused a few times. Stry Sand had to go out. Of course you did. So we watched some of the commercials,

which was actually nice. I got to see that Bravo commercial, the Uber One commercial that played every five minutes. The commercials like weren't bad. Somebody was saying like. And it gave me time to like digest the last minutes of content that I just saw. Because like, I don't know what I'm going to say. Or the first story is going to be obviously a recap of the finale and all the news that's come out.

I don't know what I have to say about it. Because it was just a lot. Like it wasn't like, oh, the tea was spilled. It wasn't because it was just a lot like it wasn't like oh the tea was spilled it wasn't it's just emotional it was it felt wrong to be watching such such things I understand what you mean you know I don't have a hot take to share yeah no me neither I just like could not believe what I was watching I know that that that it happened that you know they have to go and have these conversations now that we're seeing them it's so personal I I really was just like in awe yeah I did see um somebody on Twitter point out how like the first before Scandival broke like

the first couple episodes this season, the sponsors, like the commercials, were like literally like diet pills, like literally fraudulence. And literally, it was like Clorox. It was the best of the best.

Uber Eats last night, like premium Super Bowl placement. Yeah, because if I'm an advertiser, I want to buy an ad on the finale of Vanderpump Rules. But you know who got an ad in? Who? Shannon Bedore's Little Tincture Company. Did she? When I was fast forwarding. I want to buy an ad on the finale of Vanderpump Rules. But you know who got an ad in? Who?

Shannon Bedore's Little Tincture Company. Did she? When I was fast forwarding, I saw her face. QVC, like. You know how she does her ads? Yeah. No, not QVC. You know, she does her little wellness.

Yeah. Oh, they're not sold on QVC? That's something else? That was when she was doing meals, right? Frozen meals, yeah. So, yeah, she has her little, like, I saw her face when I was scrolling. So she got an ad. I love the word tincture. I know. I don't think I've ever taken a tincture, but I her little tincture like I saw her face when I was scrolling so she got mad I love the word tincture I know I don't think I've ever taken a tincture but I love a tincture

I think you should take a tincture and I think it should be Shannon's tincture I think maybe you should buy me a tincture I think that I will so you could leave it in the studio and never open it literally literally um all right I feel like perhaps we should just dive in perhaps we should dive into the fast five stories that you need to know today. And today's episode is brought to you by Lululemon. Lululemon was made to stretch. Their shorts are flexible and supportive, and with the infinite ways of working out, they give you the courage to leap into something totally new and unexpected.

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But let's just go with what we saw last night. The Vanderpump Rules finale. Scandival starting two days after that Watch What Happens Live episode, two days after Ariana found the video on Tom's phone, cameras started filming. There were a few moments

I was actually really moved by. Okay. First, Ariana telling us that Lisa offered her a place to stay. That was very sweet. Yeah. Ariana showing up at Lisa's house and just kind of like collapsing

in her arms. Like this episode actually really endeared me to Lisa Vanderpump. And I kind of understood her role. Her role in the show has seemed kind of irrelevant in recent years. Like nobody really works at the restaurant. But she really is this like maternal wise figure. And I actually ended up like really enjoying her presence on last night's episode.

I also was really endeared by the conversation. Not really conversation, but just Shina sharing the anecdote about how this is so hard for her, you know, breaking up with Sandoval, obviously. And I was like, okay, sure, whatever, Shina. But then she was like, no, you know, we've been doing this for so long. And in the beginning, you really forget,

like nobody wanted Shina around. They really tried to ice her out of the show. I was watching this morning while I was getting ready. They were playing old episodes on Bravo. They were so fucking mean to her, those girls. Like ruthlessly, like really evil. And when they were at the upfront to her those girls like and like ruthlessly like really evil and when they were at the upfronts this big event they were like these new starlets and sandoval really made it a point to include her on the carpet like i actually was moved by that and i thought she wasn't being

dramatic like crying over her relationship with sandoval i didn't think she was being dramatic and i actually thought it was really necessary for sheena to have a breakdown yeah given what we saw all season and like her blind defense of Raquel against Katie who now like Ariana's experiencing on a much larger level exactly what Katie experienced with Schwartz and Raquel when like everybody made her like feel so crazy and so I actually really felt like I didn't even realize this but that Sheena needed to have like this moment of just like a complete reversal of how she feels about Raquel and how she feels about Sandoval considering she was so wrong and I felt like in her conversation with Sandoval like like

what she was saying was very real and I appreciated how hard it was for her yeah I also appreciated like Brock taking Summer to the park and getting out of town you know yeah and being like you put us in a bad position bro I go yeah here's your package I here's I also, like, not Brock thinking that Sandoval brought them a gift. And he was like, no, it was outside. Yeah. Brock was on Watch What Happens Live in the audience. And Andy was like, I love your haircut. He really does look so good.

He does look so good. I'm here for it. Yeah. I'm here for him in general. And at this stage, like, I'm obviously here for Sheena. But just watching this whole season back, like, it did not look good for her. No, she looked really stupid. Wrong on every

count yeah like every hill she died on except maybe the hill with like katie and the wedding but every other hill but even that was stemmed from raquel but yes and that she even overplayed with her hand with saying like you can't come to the preferred pool i actually don't think she overplayed her hand like i know what we know now like katie didn't just decide to take a vacation like katie had to go it was a cast trip like she had to go she had no choice um but like that sucks for Gina say like you can't come to the preferred pool like you don't own this hotel I know but like she shouldn't come to the preferred pool you know what I mean yeah she shouldn't want to go right but she shouldn't she doesn't need she shouldn't be

kicked off the premises like yeah yeah no and sending Raquel was obviously like not the greatest idea. Right. So other points in the episode that were highlights. The one minute we got of James Kennedy, like I wish we got more. He's so funny. It's crazy how James and Lala really weren't in the episode that much considering like on social media they were some of the loudest voices. Yeah, but I guess like as it pertains to the storyline,

they're really like level C. Like it's like Tom Ariana and Raquel, the core. Then it's like tom ariana and raquel the core then it's like really katie schwartz sheena yes then it's everyone else well that's just like james and lala right right yeah except like james is raquel's ex yeah and lala is the one who's been like pushing this narrative that was the one who was right about her yeah no for sure they really weren't in a lot but that scene at at their apartment, like, was funny. Yeah. It was crazy.

It's crazy that James just, like, called her up just to yell at her. I'm shocked she picked up. Yeah. And then the kind of big scene was. There were so many big scenes. I know. One of the big scenes was Raquel's apartment with Tom. And I think everyone, like, collectively clenched their buttholes when he was talking about his family.

Say, you know, they love you. And she thought he said, I love you. And she was like, I love you too he was talking about his family say you know they love you and she thought he said I love you and she was like I love you too yeah but it's nice to know they're in love and that they and that they say it to each other I don't know I feel like a lot of the excitement and and potentially I don't think that they're broken up I think that report is false but if they are broken up I feel like you know part of the excitement with an affair is you know the salaciousness of it all and doing it behind like knowing it's wrong and then when that kind of um I literally can't relate to that like no of course not knowing it's wrong makes it not fun for me kill me but that is like what happens some like

crazy people feel yeah right and I think for Tom who's like clearly chasing some sort of high in his life I think the the rebellious nature of the romance is probably what drew him to it a lot. And once that's over, you're left with the person in front of you. And I don't know if there is this deep, romantic, perfect match connection between the two of them. And I could almost feel him last night just being not as excited about it anymore.

They kept talking about it. We have this deep connection. And then he gets there and it was like, yeah, I know they were holding back for the cameras, but it didn't seem like this great love like I don't know it felt more like a real love and a relationship to me than I thought it was going to especially since they were like saying things like just because I've never seen them like together like that so them like agreeing that it's like weird to be in front of cameras and

do what they do I felt like they have that relationship. I think the rebellious nature of it definitely is attractive for them. But I also think, you know, it's the newness for Tom. Like he likes things that are shiny and new. And I think even if he's able to have like a real relationship with Raquel, it will be new for a while and he will still be into it. Like it was with Ariana. To a point.

Yeah. But he also like i think the the hovering theme here is that he's 40 and he's having a serious midlife crisis yeah like it's crazy that he's 40 and he's going to his girlfriend's apartment with the lights the galaxy light it's so stupid it's so childish childish immature and he has no idea who he is. They're perfect for each other because she has no idea who she is. No, that's so true. And what's just so crazy to me is why Ariana was so ride or die for him. I know.

No matter how bad their relationship is, it's admirable. But why? Right. Like we found out last night. He doesn't come home at night. She knew about Miami Girl. So this is somebody who has cheated on you i can understand forgiveness i that doesn't even shock me so much but he doesn't come home

at night you guys don't have a good relationship like you don't have an intimate relationship like what is there like and he's also a fucking loser and she's cool so like what does she admire about him yeah no i'm not sure but you know you get comfortable and like you just things work and they're fine like that's what happens to a lot of people and so for sure like Tom's not wrong in saying like this relationship should have ended sure I think probably they both would have agreed with that but like this is not how you do it no oh my god no no not at all and I will be curious For the reunion Like to hear Because Tom said on the show

A few times To different people Including Ariana That he tried to break up with her Yeah And that there were Different responses Of like literally no

Yep She threatened to Kill herself Kill herself Like so On Watch What Happens Live Last night On Watch What Happens Live

She said he never Tried to break up with her Right So I want to see them Have that conversation Yeah Well so that's how The reunion is laid out I think it's Tom and Ariana solo Tom Ariana Raquel big group without Raquel

with Sheena big group without Sheena with Raquel wow that's how I think it goes yeah and they're not talking about the rest of the season they're not no I saw um in art that the um one of the producers was like talking about casting they're not they're not filming yet they're not no I saw um in art that the um one of the producers was like talking about casting they're not they're not filming yet they're taking like a a minute to sort out their casting stuff because they're in kind of a tough spot nobody will film with Tom and Raquel obviously but Tom and Raquel are the story oh yeah no but so I can't believe we've gotten this far without talking about Schwartz hate hate Schwartz like I kind of hate like this whole time he's always been this person he's always been this loser who would like do anything for his

loser friend who doesn't respect his wife like he's always been this person but for some reason like he's gotten away with it he's got away with it the fan is like the fans are like oh Schwartz is so cute myself included it wasn't until this season like even in the last few weeks that I've come to despise him I've actually always thought he was like cute puppy dog endearing. Right. Sweet, means well, nice guy. Right. And so I think he's really having some sort of identity crisis. Like he was just beloved and he could act like an animal and he did. And he would make poor choices.

He cheated on Katie. Remember he made out with a girl. But everyone was like, sure, it's you, sure, it's you, sure, it's you. And to in a dime, like have like all the consequences of your actions, like show up at your front door in this huge way. Like he's really struggling. And the way he won't even slightly like be angry at Sandoval is so psychotic to me. Yeah, well, he he said a little bit when he spoke to Ariana that he's upset.

He didn't say it to Sandoval. No, no, he didn't say it to Sandoval. And now we could see how that first apology note from why it was way and it's just like schwartz being so fucking dumb to really like i understand that his business is suffering and that must be hard and really the hardest part like yes everybody's feelings are hurt but i'm sure on a personal level for schwartz like his parents or his family invested in it he invested he lost his marriage over it he has people working line of credit everything is on the line for him and that is like aside from you know getting hate tweets and mean comments like that's fucking that's real i get that yeah but he doesn't even

have like the self-awareness to be like sandoval you need to put out a statement like about the situation not just about the business no they're just like and I remember it when it happened like they were just panicked about the business and I do think in the end this ultimately will be a good thing for the business I don't think like the destruction of the business like it's going to be collateral because at the end of the day like it is the setting now behind like one of the greatest most scandalous reality tv moments in history like i do think it will end up being like a good thing for the restaurant i don't know he said on watch what happens live that people are like coming in mostly to you know like and i think schwartz like shows

up every day and like sits down with people and talks about it just to like give them an experience like you know it's like come to schwartz's if you want to talk to me about scandal like like lala's selling merch right Right. He's selling himself. Right. Which isn't, like, the worst idea I've ever heard. But I don't know if, like, their restaurant can withstand, like, this period of boycott. Yeah, yeah. But is the period still going on?

I felt like it was over. I feel like it's still going on. Like, the episode just aired. Right. And then we're going to have a reunion. Like, I don't know what's going on over there. I will say aired right and then we're gonna have reunion like I don't know what's going on over there I will say like major kudos to Bravo I think they've really handled the whole thing very well kind of embargoing you know Ariana until tonight and

then she was on the Today Show this morning I thought the editing in the beginning of the episode was excellent Ben was on the edge of his fucking seat he couldn't believe it he was also cackling at everything Tom Schwartz said like he was like this guy is so dumb schwartz yeah like everything that just came out of his mouth he really he doesn't think like how is this next sentence gonna make me look yeah because he's just always said what comes to mind and people have loved it eaten it up yeah but no the chickens are coming home to roost like ben was cracking up when he got to katie's he was like can i have a coke and she was like yeah sure and he took a beer like like little dumb things like that which is really like what people have loved

about Schwartz this whole time but it's just not fucking cute anymore no like it's annoying no no what else

I felt like the initial conversation you know the sit down of the century between Ariana and Tom who are still living in the same house it's so crazy

crazy but you know me and Ben were having this conversation like they split that house right and they put all their vanderpump money into this house like who i'm not fucking leaving you leave she shouldn't leave because he should leave but if he's not leaving like she should go stay with a friend like she said lisa right offered sheena had raquel staying with her at one point like there's a million places she could go i'm sure she's gotten reached out to by literally everyone hotel oh a hotel Airbnb should really oh by the way marketing idea for Airbnb give her a

house until this crazy lunatic leaves that's actually a very good idea it's insane that she's in the same house as him it's nuts and when they sat down for that conversation I actually thought she was much more measured and you know calm even though you know she wasn't that calm than I would have been like Like, I thought she, she really had an, she took the time to think about what she wanted to say. and like, sometimes you know what you want to say,

but your emotions just cloud everything. And she was crystal fucking clear. Yeah. It was a great time in her grieving process to have the conversation because it was just straight anger and facts. And then like, when she goes over to Lisa, she can just fall apart.

Um, when Tom went over to Lisa's, that, I'm sorry sorry, like I was not fucking OK cracking up this man. I don't know. Like he's so weird looking like in this current era with his floppy hair and his mustache and the nail polish and like the punk rock outfits. Like he's so unserious and he thinks he's a rock star. And so he's like having this fake panic attack, like cry breakdown. I think it was fake beyond like I'm sorry. It was so it it was fake i just want to say it doesn't mean i feel sorry for him i just want to say i don't think it was fake and i think to go through i think a part of him is enjoying

all the attention attention um a part of him is like he ruined his life what is he gonna do to go through what he's gone through and not break down at one point and have a panic attack um would be psychotic. I'm sorry. I actually take it back. I don't think it was fake. I just don't think he was crying about what he said he was crying about. I don't think there's really any love lost for him to Ariana.

I think he's crying about the fact that his band is going to trouble. And yeah, his situation. Like, oh, people don't like me. And he's this crazy narcissist. He's not crying because this is the last conversation he might ever have with Ariana. He don't give a shit. No, no, no, no, no. He's crying because his world has imploded right and he hit the button and he was really able to act like such an ass for so long but like for some reason like

the bravo fans lived for it and he was able to like open this restaurant and be lisa's number one and get tom tom and start the band like he was able to do all this even as the worst so he just took the worst like a little too far this time. He didn't know where he could take it. Yeah. It was crazy. It was honestly historic. Ariana was so beautiful and really just very well spoken,

very measured on Watch What Happens Live. And he was eating it up. It was just historic. Yeah. It was really crazy. What did you think of Kristen coming back I needed more I mean she's so mature and you know Ariana like had you know started to apologize because you know how you get them is how you lose them and Kristen didn't even want to hear it yeah she's so mature she's so

lovely I off camera a lot of them are really good friends with Kristen so many of the fans were like this they you know were healing like that the fans were like this, you know, were healing. Like the fact that Kristen and Ariana were hugging. But like, they've been such good friends for such a long time. Like this isn't new.

No, so it wasn't crazy. It wasn't like this has brought them together at all. No, I did cringe like my face off when at the end

they were like, ashes to ashes, dust to dust, no matter the day we choose to slay. We slay, we must. Slay,

we must. Slay, we must. I was like passing must. Slay, we must. I was like passing away. Me and Ben were like gripping each other. You have to remember they're still in LA. No, I know. And they're just like chuggy millennials.

But like it was too much. Like it was actually too much. I totally agree. Slay, we must. Yeah. I actually, like I needed to go to the hospital. It was so painful. Call an ambulance For me

I also thought It was really interesting That Ariana Has been watching So much TikTok Really She said that On Watch What Happens Live

And she also said it Today on The View That's not crazy to me No but she's getting Like she's like I'm literally being targeted With like all this content About myself

Like people making Like music videos And she's like It's just weird That's funny Yeah But it's probably Also helpful for her because they're probably pulling up old scenes that she's seeing and she's able to like contextualize them now and be like oh shit yeah and he was also like you know at the end of the day like all this crazy this was like

the last question so you probably didn't hear it all this crazy stuff like endorsements there's talks of her being on dancing with the stars. You're going on The View and the Today Show. Like all in all, net net. You okay? Yeah. And she was like, it's really crazy. Like she didn't want to say, but like, I, you know what I, it actually made me think about all the girls whose best friends sleep with their boyfriends and don't get to go on Dancing with the Stars. Like the situation probably remedied itself. Like she was too booked and busy and famous and popular to really spend that much time being down. Like almost immediately she was out here. She's in an ad campaign for Bloomingdale's.

Like there's all this stuff. She's on comedy central. Like I don't really feel like she could have been that sad after that. No, I agree. And it's like before Scandival, she's in like a miserable, an admitted miserable relationship disconnected from the biggest loser in the world.

And she's always been, like, a constant on the show, but never the star or anything. And I also don't think that's that important to her, but, like, because she would be crazier if it was. But so that's where she was before Scandival. Yeah. Okay, so your best friend betrayed you and slept with your best partner. And that's terrible. And that's really fucking terrible.

But you are the biggest star in the world everybody loves you every door is open to everybody supports you you every like you are universe and nobody is you are universally loved but i guess like if you think about it like before she even though sandoval sucks and we hate him like she thought like and she doesn't have a lot of um like close family i think yeah um well she has her mom and her brother she says i'm sorry sheena read tom uh tom sandoval to absolute guilt when he was like she said she was gonna kill herself which ariana says is not true what was i supposed to do and she's like you call me you call jeremy you call you fly tanya in like she had the fucking answers i'm like yes she is so true it was a perfect answer but i feel like she only has like

a few close people in her life so like she thought she had that with Tom even though you know it wasn't the spiciest most exciting relationship after nine years it was stable it was like you you had what you thought was loyalty in your man and your best friend and to lose that even though you could go on Dancing with the Stars yeah no you're right like none of that really matters it like kind of shakes you to your core yeah i will say there were some things that came out of tom sandoval's mouth last night that i found like genuinely shocking like even for a narcissistic fucking psychopath like him such as why don't you tell her well i just figured she follow me and figure it out oh my god that was crazy that that was like a next level subhuman

to even conjure up a thought like that you have to be diabolically for not following him up on his lies but also by the way he was lying about a lot but he wasn't lying about going to Schwartz how much of their affair was taking place at Schwartz's house no I think that it was well I mean Ariana said when he said that I was shocked because I was looking at his location and he was at Schwartz's. Oh, that's crazy. With Raquel.

With Raquel, but he could also just go to Raquel's. Right, but I guess like. Not as frequently. He was hiding something, so he was doing

like a decent job of covering it up. Yeah, no, it's also, it's like, if you want to get caught, which is what it sounds like

when you say, follow me, then why are you deleting everything off your phone? Right. When she says, let me look at your phone, there you go.

Oops, sorry. So much of the shit, like when he started to yell at her in the opening scene i'm like you sit down that's even if you have thoughts you sit down and you just fucking take it it's crazy that in like the first second of like there's gonna be waves of this and maybe at like wave five he could retaliate where he was at you know like because i do want to know like mentally how did we get here but in wave one you sit there and you fucking take it and you just say sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry but he's such a narcissist like you could true and he really is like a true narcissist

true narcissist can really only apologize and take accountability like if at all a very limited amount like until they're like well I was wrong right I feel like I deserve love and a deep connection like he's incapable of swallowing his pride and just being wrong yeah because he really is honestly not okay no and now I want to talk about this rumor that they broke up okay so there's how she's locked up she's sending him letters Ariana said she is locked up so I just want to say about this rumor that they broke up okay so there's how she's locked up she's sending him letters ariana said she is locked up so i just want to say like we were chatting we were all kind of wrong we thought she just went to a retreat canyon ranch she's sending snail mail she's in

a facility she's in a facility so if she can't even like talk to him on the phone she's sending him letters they ain't breaking up unless i had a thought last night that the letter that came to him a few days ago said, Tom, we have to end things. Oh. Well, here's the thing. I think about how this could play out in future seasons, this upcoming season specifically. And if Raquel and Tom break up, I can see a world in which Raquel kind of positions herself she's just in this facility positions herself as like a victim of Tom Sandoval and maybe in a very long time and in a very slow

way she slowly makes her way back to the group as like an outsider and Tom Sandoval becomes the sole villain of this saga I don't think so I think I don't think Tom Sandoval will ever come back from this I don't I couldn't predict which one would but the only thing that would bring him back is the fact that they have like a history you know it's been 15 years like Sheena said like with Raquel they've known this bitch three years they and turns out nothing to her they didn't know her after all nothing so I could see I think she'll go that route I think that's really the only road to go down if they do break up that like that she was a victim of his yeah but I don't think it's gonna work for anyone no these girls are hardened they're better off just

falling in love yeah no that's what I'm saying so it when they are like it it will be so weird if they just dissolve and break up. And it was like, all of this was for nothing. Yeah. I also felt like that last night they did a really good job of like kind of explaining how deep so many of these relationships go. Like I totally forgot Ariana was a groomsman. Yeah.

Like, and I thought when she sat him down and her being so clear, like I will not associate with one person that is friends with him. So you and I are done. Have a nice life. Like I think that a, that's really healthy. B, it was very like savage of done. Have a nice life. Like, I think that, A, that's really healthy. B, it was very, like, savage of her. But then I watched Happens Live.

He was like, well, what about Lisa? Well, Lisa is in a different position. They're business partners. And, like, the relationships, they're not friends. Like, she said, I want him to be mutual friends with him. But, like, it's not a friendship that they have. And I do think that I don't fault Lisa for lending an ear to Tom Sandoval. And it's not like she's, like like she's patting him on the back.

She's giving him hard truths. That doesn't really bother me so much. No, me neither. But it's also like Lala literally said the same thing this season about Randall and Tom Schwartz. And how come that wasn't met with such acceptance? Yep, yep, yep, yep. Like Randall's an actual alleged deviant. Right.

And nobody respected that. And nobody respected that. And nobody respected that. It's like, oh, Lala's being intense. One other thing I will say that I really liked was the complete breaking of the fourth wall. They talked about the fact that they're on a show. They have fans. They're famous.

There's press. There's Us Weekly. To a degree, they talked about it. But I also like that they didn't, I actually feel like they punctured the fourth wall, but they didn't completely break it, which I like. They were honest about certain things

but like we're still filming a show and there's still a semblance of how things go. But like the elephant in the room is like, we're all stars. Like they don't really talk about that ever. Like they're just supposed to be like normal people in WeHo. It was helpful. Yeah.

It was extremely well done. Yeah. It was sad. It was sad. No, I'm telling you, like I wasn't Like lapping it up Oh I was also shook

That we got one scene With Raquel I thought there would be A little bit more It literally When that screen came up And said she turned off Her phone

Nobody's heard from her For weeks I was shocked Especially since she seemed Decently comfortable In the filming setting Yeah she wasn't terrible When we heard

And reported that they That he went to her apartment And they filmed Like the idea I had Of what they filmed Would have been like her like in a corner like this. Like, no, she was herself and she was making jokes and smiling and being like, you know, I have no friends. The scar is visible. Yeah.

That is a scar. And it's a nail. It's literally a half moon shape. Yeah. It's a half summer moon shape. I actually believed Sheena's explanation of it like she might have just cut her with like she didn't i don't think she pulled her arm back and wound up and punched her i i believe sheena's explanation but raquel did have a mark uh visible

a wound and it was also visible in her interview when she's covered with makeup yeah but she only had like a two second interview why did they only show they got like no raquel footage no but like she went and sat down for an interview and they only included like one soundbite and also what the fuck else did she say think about that time period as well she was like doing tmz and then she filmed the reunion like there actually was a decent amount of time where before she went mia she did the tmz like literally two days before the reunion i think but she sat down on a green screen for an interview. Yeah. Once.

We saw one clip. And they only showed us one clip. And the one clip was like crazy. Yeah. What else did she say? I don't know. I just, I want to see that interview. And Raquel, as we know, it is still in this facility.

Yeah. It's crazy. So do you think they broke up? No. No, not unless the letter had said that Right But I feel like the letter could have said that If she really like is doing deep

Therapy If the facility accomplishes what it said What it should accomplish She should break up with him Right Yeah And that would come in the form of a letter Dear Tom

I see it all now that I'm gone Don't you think 28's too young to be played By your dark twisted games When you, when I loved you So I gotta go I think that's what it said. I think that's what it says too. Well, it's not over yet. We got three parts for you rock hell's version literally that's our title today remember it also there was

a little more there was a couple more headlines that I just wanted to make sure that we talked about okay I thought the most interesting tidbit from the episode was Lala claiming that Tom Sandoval cheated with Billy with Billy Lee Thank you so much for bringing that up. And on Watch What Happens Live, he pressed her about it. He was like, who is this person? Who's the third person that you know the infidelity about? She said it's somebody in Bravo. No, she didn't say Bravo.

She said not in the show universe. But he said, is it someone in the Bravo universe? She said not the show universe. And Andy's never met them. Makes me think it's like some sort of influencer or something. I need to know. I need to know. Because Andy's Andy's met Billy right because Billy was at a reunion right but then also very recently Sandoval was paparazzi with Billy yeah they're friends there's something there there's something there that wasn't there before and the fact that that came up at a reunion

it was unaired footage like the fuck what you show us crap. It's so true. That was shocking. Even if there was like no truth to the rumor, like the fact that there's a rumor going around about two cast members committing infidelity, like let us know.

I was floored by that revelation and that footage. And I'm gonna need more. Yeah. I'm gonna need Lala to explain herself. Lala investigates. Yeah.

Just explain what you meant when you said that. Yep. Explain what you meant. Question mark. yep explain what you meant question mark exclamation and i don't think it was just one person i think it was just the one person that's confirmed yeah miami girl one person because tom sandoval said it was one person but tom sandoval's a liar yeah he's a liar sandoval's a liar and then Raquel yeah as far as we know I thought that was no I'm so glad you brought that up and that's it but it's but it's so not

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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who were traveling with Megan's mom, Doria, were pursued by photographers after leaving the Ziegfeld Theater. The trio left the event in an SUV around 10 p.m. and were immediately followed by around 12 paparazzi, page six is told. They eventually decided to ditch their original vehicle and jump into a yellow cab in hopes of evading photogs, a source claims. The insider alleges that one cameraman hit a car while another almost ran over an NYPD officer during the near, quote, near fatal chase. It started off with 12 paparazzi, then ended up with four chasing Maggie, Maggie and Harry.

Maggie. That's a cute couple. Yeah, it is. Maggie and Harry and Doria. Their security tried their best to lose the photographers once in the taxi Harry used his cell phone to record the ensuing melee we're told security was also recording to gather evidence paparazzi were confronted by uniformed police officers but ignored warnings and continued tracing the trio we hear um then a rep for the

Sussexes claimed that last night the Duke a rep for the Sussexes claimed that last night the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Miss Ragland were involved in a near-catastrophic car chase at the hands of a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi. This relentless pursuit

lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians, and two NYPD officers. While being a public figure comes with a level of interest from the public, it should never come

at the cost of anyone's safety. Agreed. So that's an obviously harrowing story. Well, especially like, hello, we were all here. Like his mother died in a car chase with paparazzi.

So it feels very like history repeating itself energy. Yes. So then yesterday, more details were coming out about the chase. chase a few different uh people spoke on it who were involved the mayor the mayor who's not involved the but the mayor loves a celebrity you know he's getting involved no you know he's getting involved we'll share what

he said the nypd put out a statement and the taxi driver and that's who i want to hear shared a gave a video interview i will say like i know they got into, like, their armored tinted cars. And they couldn't shake four of the 12 paparazzi. I don't think getting into a yellow cab without tinted windows and with an untrained driver. Like, to evade paparazzi, it's a specific trait. Like, yes, actually, New York City cab drivers are some of the best drivers in the world. But it's still not the scale. I don't think that was the wisest decision. No i mean i understand why they did it we always say too

like if people want to draw attention to themselves like don't come with armored vehicles yeah exactly so they were in their car and they were being pursued and they went to a police precinct on 67th street and where they like filed this complaint and waited it out and then their security guard held them a taxi to take them the rest of the way a taxi being less um obvious conspicuous than their vehicle but the taxi driver said so the taxi driver started to drive and paparazzi spotted them was taking pictures of them so they asked the taxi driver to circle back to the precinct so that they could go back there. The taxi driver. Was there anyone in the cab with them or just three?

Just the three of them, I think. Not a good call by the security guy. Maybe they were in other vehicles. Maybe. He said he picked up Harry, Megan, and an older woman he didn't recognize. And a security guard, sorry. And a security guard in his yellow cab at about 11 p.m. outside the New York police precinct on East 67th street they were saying uptown um and he said that he got the impression

from the group that they had already been pursued by the paparazzi before entering his car after a few minutes the security guard grew concerned about the photographers around them and asked him to return to the police station because they got cut off by a garbage truck this is just like new york city what they were driving and a garbage truck so annoying what happened and they can't move and so then there's paparazzi they were like that's just unfortunate next to them taking pictures the guard thought they were too exposed and didn't want their location shared more widely he turned and headed north up madison avenue driving back to the pickup point he estimated the journey wasn't in 10 minutes he said though i don't think I would call it a chase. I never felt like I was in danger.

It wasn't like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared, but it's New York. It's safe. Plus, if you're a New Yorker, you know that there's not anywhere to go. It is quite, it is physically impossible for a car chase to occur in the streets of New York, maybe on the FDR or the West Side Highway. But it is physically impossible. The streets are tiny. Like, there's always double parked cars there's nowhere to drive like you can't go

over 20 miles an hour in New York City so let alone a two-hour car chase a car chase they might have been being followed and I'm sure that they were but a car chase is you know we all think OJ yeah but I think the whole ordeal was two hours from the time they left the event to the time they got to their destination. I will say it wasn't like two hours of cars ripping through the streets. Right. Right. Causing each other mayhem. I will say the paparazzi are so out of control and like really so disrespectful and like nothing they get is ever enough. Having said that, it sounds like a lot of bad calls were made by her security detail. I cannot imagine why anybody thought it would be a good idea to put her in a yellow cab when there's still paparazzi around.

The one thing, all right, if paparazzi are following you, you're in your armored tinted vehicle, they can't get a photo of you. Like, so I don't, like, that's just a horrible idea. And then to go back to the precinct. And to get out of the car twice along the way. Right. This, honestly, like, it sounds like a bunch of morons are in charge of them, honestly. Like, that's really dumb. Yes. Oh, and to go to the precinct the precinct period you're in the do you know how hard it is for them all to get in the car with the paparazzi they're in the car just go home someone can go to the precinct for you you could file a report you can call the police i'm sure they have special connections to the police to get out of the car midway like that's that's just bad security maybe they didn't

know what paparazzi didn't know where they were staying so to make it Maybe they didn't want paparazzi to know where they were staying. So to make it to their final destination. I'm sure paparazzi already knows where they're staying. Okay, well, Mayor Adams then said in a press conference on Wednesday, it's clear that the press, the paparazzi, they want to get the right shot, but public safety must always be at the forefront. He was especially concerned that two of their police officers could have been injured and said while he found it, quote, hard to believe that there was a two-hour high-speed chase,

even an incident lasting 10 minutes could have been extremely dangerous. No, by the way, I am sure, like, I don't think anyone's lying. Like, I'm sure that, like, they're really hypersensitive. They are hypersensitive to... Given the mom. Given the situation. Even when we watched Harry and Meghan, the documentary, there was a scene where they're, like, on the West Side Highway,

and there's paparazzi that are following them, as papazzi do and they are visibly shaken shaken by it but like and it's just an unfortunate byproduct of being a public figure you know like when the Kardashians come to New York they are hounded and I think they experience like a lot of really big like the biggest names experience this all the time but it hits different for harry given his history of course with the media and the cars right so i don't think that they're lying but i do think they're probably like i don't even think they're intentionally dramatizing it because to them it was probably so traumatizing and like so real but like the facts but we know we say this as somebody who wasn't there you know i'm sure i'd be freaked out too no but like I just I was just watching

Kardashian Sulu and Kim goes to Miami and they're like pulled up at a red light and uh there's paparazzi everywhere and so I and there's car paparazzi and there's yeah uh on their foot paparazzi and bike paparazzi and I'm sure that's exactly what this was it just it's different when Harry's experiencing it because he is so traumatized. When I heard this story, I was actually thinking, cause we haven't seen any sort of relationship between Meghan Markle and the Kardashians. Um,

and actually based on what she said about like housewives and feminism on her podcast, I feel like she'd probably hate the Kardashians, but they could probably help her. Like they are probably like the Queens of paparazzi and letting the paparazzi see them when they want and when they don't want. And they have all, whenever I'm watching the show,

I'm always like shook at like just these little things that they do and you know what I'm sure they could actually like swap info and I think they would probably be helpful but I don't I feel like I just get the vibe she just probably doesn't like them I feel like they've met and it just like didn't click click because like they were both at Ellen's birthday party that's the most recent thing yeah and I do feel like Kim and Megan would have things they would be friends so the fact that they're not is because like they're not right and also megan just hired one of kim's former security guards we always know as lay people where the kardashians are saying when they come to new york because they take pictures outside their hotel like i

think that's just a fact that they've accepted yeah but it's about the security that they have the hotel of the hotel you know they the people in on the ground in the rooms like yes i agree they could maybe Learn something You know I just feel like The Kardashians Are honestly

Of all the famous people Right now Probably the most well versed In paparazzi culture And security Because of Kim Yeah because of Kim Exactly

Yes So this was like Everyone coming out Of the woodwork To tell their side Of the story The cab driver The mayor

I was like cracking up Also Backgrid Photo Agency Has put out a statement Of course they have Denying that That they were in danger during this car chase. I am sure these paparazzis were being animals. Like, I've seen footage.

Like, they're animals. Yeah. But I'm sure, you know, to Harry and Meghan, it also is more worse than it is because it's heightened. Exactly. It's heightened. Yeah. I agree. Yeah.

So. That was crazy. That was crazy. I was just asleep. I missed it. The fact that was crazy i was like everyone like the fact that the mayor's like weighing in of course he is some traffic violations but also if paparazzi are speeding and in danger and about to hit a police officer and about to hit pedestrians like ticket them right stop them in their tracks right right no yeah right yeah it's like literally the least shocking thing that this mayor spoke out. Like he is obsessed with celebrity.

Honestly, it's like the one thing I kind of relate to him on. Like he's so thirsty. He goes to the opening of an envelope. Like he's unbelievably thirsty. And so the two, literally the biggest, most famous people in the country right now were in your city and said something happened with your police department. Like press conference. I'm here. It's honestly like a sitcom.

Like. Yes. Parks and Rec. Yep. Yep. Yep. conference i'm here it's honestly like a sitcom like yes uh um parks and rec yep yep yep yep are you ready for our next story yeah a little bit of information about the saga between kim and croy what a report says that kim is demanding croy beer man be tested for drugs and she fears for the kids safety oh i really never got that vibe from him. Marijuana. Oh my God, the drama. Kim is accusing estranged husband,

Corey Bierman, of having a drug problem, according to court documents obtained by TMZ on Wednesday. She reportedly filed a petition requesting that the former NFL player submit a drug test amid their ongoing divorce. The procedure would include a five-panel hair follicle drug screen, per the report. According to TMZ, Kim has allegedly witnessed Croy smoking marijuana

and has concerns about the safety of their four minor children. Oh my God, he's going off the deep end. According to legal experts, weed is not legal in the state of Georgia, where the exes reside. Also, like, there are degrees of marijuana. Yeah, of course. Oh, I saw him smoking a blunt once. Right, after a long day.

But if she's going to split custody with him and he's high every single day you don't want your kids around that do you think you could be addicted to pot yes okay yes have you never met someone who's addicted i don't think i have you don't know that many people though but yeah no pot is extremely addictive and then it's also like degenerative for your life like yeah because it's like it's like a slow yeah like once in a while yeah you want to kick back right But if you're doing that Every single day Like I could understand As a parent

That's not the environment You want your kid in So there are so many degrees To what this story could be But I found that interesting Yeah no I mean The headline is misleading I'm like oh

He's railing lines Of course And injecting heroin You know of all the drugs To be doing But they're in the midst Of a cutscene battle So you do kind of

Sling anything you can. No, and you use the person, like the worst, not that smoking pot is a bad thing about you, but in the eyes of the law, you're going to use everything you got because you want to A, make your partner look worst and make you look best so you can get a favorable custody. But you could have legitimate concerns about your kids being in custody of someone who is recreationally doing drugs. I'm going to think it's probably like a strategic legal move as opposed to like him being strung out on pot honestly i don't know i don't know i don't know any i don't know me either

but i just never got like the vibe from him that he's like clearly something's changed with one of them or both of them but like as a father he's like so active. You know like let's go play football. Like I don't see him as like hey let's sit on the couch and eat potatoes. Like he was always trying to get the kids like in the pool. At the golf. Like he's very he's an active he's an athlete. Yeah.

And of course I'm talking about a TV show so I don't know the person. And this was five years ago. But that's just based on you know my my research. What you've seen. Yeah. But we haven't seen things in a few years. No, we haven't. So we don't know what's going on.

We don't. Maybe, you know. Cameras need to roll in order for me to make a decision. He got into marijuana and he can't get out of it. Yeah. It's a slippery slope. It is a gateway drug. It's a real thing to like, if you smoke every single day.

Yeah. You do know people who smoke every single day, actually. I do. Yes. But they, like, to me, they don't seem like addicted. Like, when I think addicted, I think, like, rehab. Do people go to rehab for pot? No, because I don't think it's taken that seriously.

And I also think, like, typically, if you're, like, addicted to pot, it's not just pot. Like, it winds up being some other stuff, too. Yes, like pills or, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's fair. So. I don't know that's fair. So. I don't know that many people. You don't.

So, I am a woman of the world. No, you know actually, you know a lot of people. Not on like a personal level, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like I have a lot, like Uba, like I have so many friends. I have a million friends. Like just ask Uba.

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of the horse and buggy. Add them to the list. Billie Eilish and Jesse Rutherford break up after less than a year as a rep says they remain good friends no love lost for me i didn't even know who this person was he was like a little bit weirdly older than her like she had that like weird cringy quote about him and that was yeah she's like imagine like the hottest fucking guy like him not only knowing whom i am

but like also being able to fucking pull him that's what she said and honestly I haven't been able to look at her the same sense and haven't been able to look at the relationship the same sense so now that it's over I think we can like resume I'm just like happy to like move on like pretend like this never happened honestly yeah I hope she's okay like I never stand no I don't know honestly he could come over and kiss me on the mouth and I would say sir who are you like I don't even know What he looks like Yeah And I'm okay

And I never really wanted To know who he was You know No This was information Just kind of like Thrust upon me No because it's also

Just your relationship To Billy as well Like if Taylor was dating Jesse Rutherford All of a sudden We love Jesse Rutherford Oh my god Did you hear about

This open letter What The Swifties are unwell What There's an open letter Like somebody wrote To Taylor Signed all the Swifties Like bitch Don't What? There's an open letter like somebody wrote to Taylor, signed all the Swifties.

Like, bitch, don't include me in your fucking letter, okay? They're all mad about Maddie. Because he's problematic? They said he's anti-Semitic, so of course my ears went up. And I watched the footage

and honestly, I didn't find it offensive and I low-key found it funny. So I don't know what everyone's talking about. Yeah, they're labeling him with all the labels. Right.

I saw a bunch of the, you know, we're excited and I think he's just like a crazy provocateur. Right. I was Googling him with all the labels. I saw a bunch of the, you know, we're excited. And I think he's just like a crazy provocateur. I don't think he is all of those things. I don't think he's anti-Semitic. I don't think he's a Nazi like Hitler.

I don't think he's a Nazi. I don't think he's a Nazi. Like I think if I'm just like kind of going to say something crazy, like I think it was a joke. And honestly, don't quote me on this, but like sometimes right time, right place. A Nazi salute joke is funny. I'm sorry. A joke can funny i'm sorry a joke can be funny a joke can be funny joke can be funny listen i actually did a nazi salute joke like with all my jewish friends in nashville i'm like they thought it was hilarious but like i can't do it it killed literally i didn't even mean it like that no it literally like annihilated see you guys it guys, it could be funny. It could be funny. So I like don't think he's a serious Nazi.

And so all the, everyone was sending me like anti-Semitic stuff and it wasn't compelling. So then I just figured that I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole. All of the works cited are not compelling. Yeah. And I'm sure he said stuff that like I maybe wouldn't agree with or maybe I thought the joke was too far. That doesn't make someone a bad person. And so. It doesn't mean that Taylor shouldn't date them.

And the idea that the fans are going to tell Taylor what to do with her personal life and the idea that the fans know Maddie better than Taylor Taylor who's spending every day with him for a few months that they know something about him that she doesn't know and that she should act on is a real it's a level of delusion it's a joke that's why like I think like please don't don't write open letters on behalf of other people like you don't speak for me how many people signed it so far I don't think it was like a petition I think it was just like a letter like please don't don't write open letters on behalf of other people. Like you don't speak for me. How many people signed it so far? I don't think it was like a petition. I think it was just like a letter. Honestly, I don't know.

But like everyone was talking about it on TikTok. I'm like these people have lost their fucking minds. These people have lost their fucking minds. But we've lost the plot. I feel like right. It hasn't gotten like loud enough for it to actually affect Taylor. As we've seen, she doesn't even look at stuff about herself. It's still on my like niche community.

Like it's not big yet. Also like Taylor dating like someone like. Controversial. Controversial. I kind of like that for her. Me too. Because she's always like goody goody like doing whatever everyone wants. Like no.

Yeah. Date that anti-Semite queen. Love that for real. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe next it'll be Jesse Rutherford though. Yeah. I was just going to make like an actual bad joke that like wouldn't have been funny.

So I use my judgment. And we love that. Yeah. but what does he do who Jesse Rutherford not a clue he does something that inspires her though like I think it's music inspires her member because that's what she said yeah yeah how would she know who he was right no like I the level of care is just not there for me on this story yeah no I sat here for 40 minutes picking stories. Sorry. I was late. Oh my God.

Rub it in my face. No. It wasn't about you. Wow. Wow. Just to. Like. And I.

That was a last resort. Like. Because it's all about Scandal Ball. Yeah. Yeah. At a certain point. I needed to just make a choice. Shake it up Chicago.

It's all about choices. Life is all about choices. It led us to talk about that. All the Maddie drama. Yeah. No. And that was funny. Like. I'm. I'm not mad. It led us to talk about That all the Maddie drama Yeah no And that was funny Like I'm

I'm not mad You're not Mattie? I'm not Maddie Oh my god I forgot to tell you Remember earlier in the week We were talking about The name Maddie

And I said you know My favorite show Awkward Yeah Guess who DM'd me You're not gonna know What it means But I'll explain it Greer Grammer

She's on Awkward She was on Awkward The show I was talking about And she's also Kelsey Grammer's daughter. And she's a toaster. She's like, I've been listening for years. I was like dying

when you brought up Awkward. I'm like, you're, I was literally malfunctioning. I'm like, you're a toaster? Wonder what she thinks about Camille Grammer.

Maybe I'll ask her that if she slides into it. Is she Camille's daughter? No, no, no. Okay. That's actually, look at me. I gotta stop talking

and like answering. No, she either is or she isn't. You know what I mean? Well, that is true. She either so is. I gotta stop talking and like answering. No, she either is or she isn't. You know what I mean? Well, that is true. She either so is. I feel like she might not be because I don't remember Camille having.

Camille's kids were so young. No, her mother is Barry Bruckner. Okay. Actor, a makeup artist. Yeah. Yeah, so that's just like something exciting that happened to me today. That's cool.

Thanks for sharing. While Taylor won't listen to the toast career grammar will and that's good enough for me yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story fine another another story that i passed a number of times before i chose it okay chloe kardashian is slamming the exhausting rumors about her and tristan thompson's relationship status this newsworthy. I'll give you it. Yeah. So Chloe wants people to stop talking about her relationship with ex-love Tristan. Chloe, you and I want the same thing. Literally.

She said, stop pushing this narrative. It's tiring. She added in response to a fan page screenshot from Dumois that read, Kim's supporting Tristan at the Lakers game. What is going on? Do you think every time? Melting face emoji. What does this emoji connote?

I don't know. Like I'm melting? Yeah, like, I don't know. Like the Wicked Witch? Every time a celebrity either like directly calls out Dumas

or like something like this, do you think like Dumas like dies inside? I feel like it happens a lot. It does happen a lot. I feel like it's case by case how Dumas feels about it. Yeah.

I feel like this one is, Dumas didn't like say anything. She just like posted someone asking a question. So I think, I think Khloe's more so responding to that fan than like Dumas for platforming it. Because you know,

a lot of people had questions. I think we sat here and asked a question as well. I think we did. Can I ask you a question? Why was Kim Kardashian sitting at the Lakers game while north had a poster that said tristan thompson simple questions yep but chloe has the answers stop pushing this narrative it's tiring uh she do you want had said posted allegedly he's back with coco so maybe she saw soft launching the idea so everyone is prepared and doesn't give coco a hard time like stop calling

her coco if you don't know what's going on. Like that's what her nieces and nephews call her. I wouldn't even call her Coco. Never. And I scan. I would never speak such libel about her. She said, I suppose you guys will continue the narrative you want regardless of what I say.

So what's the point? It's exhausting, but I learned people will only understand to the level of their own perception. Most are stuck at believing the lies because it's the narrative they want to fuel. Have fun. I mean, some things are just as simple as they seem a family member supporting another family member especially during a difficult time in life example just how i support scott and will forever support him he's my brother love that it's not just an nba stage sad new world if there's no photos people think it didn't really happen but yes i see scott often some things really are just

as they are no that's a decent example yeah no the thing is is like nothing they're doing is abnormal for their relationship with Tristan who's True's father but it's also not abnormal what they're doing if he she he was in a relationship with Chloe like you know what I mean yeah like they're both like everything they're doing is something normal you do with your sister's boyfriend and something normal you do with your cousin's dad like so it is easy for people to jump to conclusions yeah but she cleared it up cool yeah she did clear it up she's been clearing up like some stuff recently she's really been feeling like text i love the direct communication but i also feel like close like i mean it's her phone she probably sees everything about her all the time and apparently she was like walking into the hotel in New York and people were chanting Courtney

at her yeah and so she posted that to her story as well um and I just feel like she winds up like giving a lot of energy to things that don't require require it and like shouldn't matter so much to her considering like she needs to zoom out I agree but I'm sure it's almost impossible for her and it's literally they're chanting it at her. Yeah. But like the fact that you're going to say to your like 60 million followers something that like 20 people did. Perhaps the video was going viral. I didn't see it.

I didn't see it either. It's like not the biggest deal in the world. No it's not. And I'm sure like I really feel for her because the amount of anxiety that she suffers from being in the public eye right now like is more than ever before and she was actually the sister who was like had the highest tolerance for it yeah to start so i think she's really like suffering i just i wish she could find a way to like see her herself the way that most of us normal fucking people see her i know if you ever get a chance to meet her you should tell her that i honestly feel like it would like really move her honestly that, that was beautiful. Thanks, Claudia.

We'll clip it. Maybe we'll clip it and we could tag her. Yeah. Because she sees her Instagram. So true. She sees what people have to say. Maybe Dumois could repost it for us. For us.

So it really kind of gets across her desk. Love you, Chloe. Let's put that at the end. Adorable. Okay. Well, that's that that that's that on that i've been wearing a body suit since 7 a.m yeah you have like i can't stop moving you're gonna need surgery no jaggie if i literally put my fingers down my throat i could pull the body suit out of my mouth if you pick your wedgie one more time on the show i'm sorry i get canceled i'm literally like this body suit is up my fucking pussy. Like it's insane. So we don't want you to get a UTI.

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