The Toast - Death, Taxes and The Selenators: Tuesday, December 10th, 2024

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to The Chose and happy Tuesday. That feels like a Monday because I'm back in my studio for the first time, landed, hopped up the plane at LAX. Literally, every time I leave your house, and again, no slight against you, I'm so happy to be home, I feel disgusted.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I wish I never left. It's monsooning in New York. My flight was four hours delayed. Or you wish you never left me. Yeah, this sucks, dude, this blows. Okay, okay. Even though I hate podcasting with you in person. Like the remaining episodes are gonna be so much better
Starting point is 00:00:30 this week because we're apart. And that's why I had to leave. No, I agree. We have gotten into such a good groove with remote podcasting. And I realized like what it is when we're together, like we're having so much fun. We don't wanna stop and work.
Starting point is 00:00:42 However, when we're apart, it's like, I would never be like, hey, let's do it a little late today. Like I respect your schedule and you respect mine. Like I know you made a lot happen to get there. Like we are too scared of each other. We're so lazy together. We're so lazy together
Starting point is 00:00:55 cause we just wanna like be together. But when we're apart, we're like too scared of the other to just like say, screw the schedule. No, and the schedule is what keeps us alive. Like, but when you're at your house or you're here, it's just like say screw the schedule. No and the schedule is what keeps us alive. But when you're at your house or you're here, it's just like whatever. I hate podcasting with you in person so as much as I hated flying home and leaving my family
Starting point is 00:01:12 and waking up without the boys in my bed, it was horrible. It is the right thing to do so we can churn out premium episodes, four more episodes until the end of Toast season one. I forget, six? Seven? I feel like at the beginning of the year we thought it season one, I forget, six? Seven? I feel like at the beginning of the year,
Starting point is 00:01:26 we thought it was seven and it was actually six. Cause remember we celebrated six years of Toast. Hold on, our episode called season of the six. Let me just look in the podcast app and tell you what year that was. No, in the podcast app, they'll just tell you what season you're on. Oh, that too.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Okay, that would have been much smarter, but now I'm too far deep. We are. And now I'm just, Season of the six was 2023. This is season seven and next season will be season eight. Wow. Oh, do you know that on Apple podcasts, like when you go to the page of a podcast
Starting point is 00:01:53 that you're looking at, they give you different details and it says the hosts and guests and people's face comes up. It says our show is hosted by Claudia Asheri and Jackie Asheri and our recurring guest is Goldie Hawn. So that just has to do with like the things that we talk about, their AI isn't that smart and they just think, oh, we talked about Goldie Hawn, maybe she was on the show.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It gets a little confusing, but like, I'm not mad about it. Yeah, Goldie Hawn was on the show. Should we, what if we just reached out to Goldie? Made it true. Made it true. Made honest men out of Apple. So yes, I'm sad that you are gone, but we have so much goodness this week
Starting point is 00:02:28 that we really can't be mad. And I also agree, it does feel like a Monday. So we've kind of hacked this week into feeling like a short week by having a crazy schedule. We also definitely have a Nalafi today, a nice long one for you, because we've got really good stories. We've got to catch up with each other.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We also have dear toasters. Oh my God, I was cackling. The dear toasters today are like actually really crazy. And one of them, we are responsible for like the girl being in the pickle that she's in. Oy. Oy. And now when you say dear toasters are really crazy,
Starting point is 00:02:57 like they've been really crazy and I'm actually scared. I'm scared of what is coming our way. Okay, tell me if you agree with this cause maybe it's just like me thinking everything is about us, cause like it is. Do you feel like everyone's talking about Dear Toasters? Yeah, Dear Toasters is having a moment. Okay, love that.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Maybe do you think it has anything to do with the shift from Wednesday to Tuesday? Perhaps, it also has to do with the time of year, like just familial ties, things are happening. I feel like this is the time of year where people either get engaged or break up around the holidays because they don't want to bring you home to their families.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Like it's just a wild time of year. It's ripe for dear toaster submissions is what you're saying. Yes, exactly what I'm saying. And then tomorrow we're going to do Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap. Friday, it'll be our last episode, regular episode of the year.
Starting point is 00:03:43 So we'll both watch, oh no, nevermind me um yeah just say something cuz I like wasn't speaking English great great uh yeah Real Housewives of Beverly Hills very excited I may recap Southern Charm on Friday because that's on Thursdays there you go there you go pargy oh pargy what was the pargy song we were singing last week and I'll never Par-G. Par-G. Par-G. Oh, Par-G. What was the Par-G song we were singing last week? And I'll never stop singing my part. Nope, that's not the tune, but that was good too.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, no, no, that was it. Wait, no, that was like pretty much it. You were just off key. It goes like this. No, actually, I don't know. I'll never stop singing my Par-G song. No, definitely not. I know, that's not right, but like, I like it too.
Starting point is 00:04:24 They had a funeral and sat all night long. All night long. I know that's not right, but like I like it too. They heard a fina way, sit all night long. Something like that. Yeah. I really, the more we do our show and you know, our business evolves, like the more all signs are pointing to an album, like for so many reasons. One, like people do comedy albums. Also like for the children, like people love singing these songs. You can listen in the car with your kids.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Like I want this album. I know it really wouldn't yield anything in terms of like revenue or, but like it would literally do nothing for us other than like joy. You bring joy. I agree. I was gonna say,
Starting point is 00:04:56 I didn't know where you were going with that sentence, but the more we do this show and the more our business evolves, it's very clear like we need to put out a children's entertainment album. Like seriously, this would need to be For the kids like and I'll never stop singing that party song is obviously the intro we obviously need To finally finish our Selena Gomez song. I'm like being alone too much to dance with your heart
Starting point is 00:05:20 No, but like to do to the adora like this is so fun for the children it's fun for the whole family because you can be listening to like music in the car with your kids and It's so fun for the children, it's fun for the whole family because you can be listening to music in the car with your kids and you're being swirly. And I really do believe, we get asked all the time, like what would you guys be doing if you weren't doing this for a living? And we always give blanket answers, like social media,
Starting point is 00:05:33 but I really believe I would be climbing the corporate ladder of children's entertainment and I would be like a pivotal, either talent-wise or an executive, you know? I actually think as a duo, we would be unstoppable because of course like you- Oh, so you're encroaching on my dream. No, no, no, no, no, you would be the talent.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I wanna be behind the scenes. Like I wanna be like- You're my manager? No, I wanna be like focusing on the educational and enrichment piece. And it's like, you go off and provide the entertainment value. But like, I wanna, cause my dream was always, not always,
Starting point is 00:06:02 but like I do think something I'd be really good at is like being a substitute teacher. I don't want to do it all the time, but once in a while I'm coming in to teach these kids. So I feel like I could teach them through you. Through music. And I'd want to be on the content development team, but no, I should not be singing.
Starting point is 00:06:16 No, you need to be working with the researchers and the scientists, how that image in Heap song is like, especially- A happy song. It's especially engineered to titillate and stimulate and soothe babies, something about the different sounds. They did a lot of research. Like you would be ahead of the R&D team
Starting point is 00:06:31 who then sends the files to me and me and my team implement that into the music. Yeah, I'd wanna work for you, I guess. Oh, I'm so down. What do you think I'd be like as a boss? So scary. A thousand percent. So, so scary.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, although I am also your younger sister. So like I'd be limited in how like, you know, bossy I can be. But don't you think you'd be like taking out years old gripes? Like you could finally tell your big sis what to do. That's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't really have gripes with you. You don't have years old gripes about like being named weenie of the week every week with Margo. I took my power back by making weenie of the week. I monetized it. Like seriously, gripe vanished. I don't have, I have gripes like with, you know, other people, like some seriously like you,
Starting point is 00:07:17 it's funny, like I seriously forget nothing. But in the family, like I don't really have like childhood, trauma, gripes, things like that. That you're like holding onto and like taking out on us when we least expect it., gripes, things like that. That you're holding onto and taking out on us when we least expect it. Let me think, let me think. Because actually, if there was a sister that I would take out on, it would be you.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We were the least close growing up. Right. And I think I thought you were mean, for sure. You didn't get me and I didn't get you. It's true, that's what's always so crazy. We actually just did an interview recently. Yeah, we do interviews. Yeah, we talk about ourselves.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And we actually gave this juicy little anecdote that didn't make it into the- They didn't run. But I actually thought that was like one of the more interesting things that we said, which is that growing up, we've always been closest sisters. There's six years between Olivia and Margo and there's four of us. So like that's a lot of girls close in age.
Starting point is 00:08:00 We have everything in common and we were all very close. However, if we had to say who was the least close, it was Claudia and I. Because we did split off into two groups of two at certain times. More often than not naturally, it was Olivia and Jackie and then Margo and I. Oldest to youngest.
Starting point is 00:08:14 The oldest and the youngest. But then Olivia and I really started to get really close. We had a lot of similar interests. I would say like the family dynamic shifted when we started watching Law and Order SVU. And then like me and Olivia were a unit and then you and Margo were a unit too. Yeah, and you guys really like the cook, the food network.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We did and you and I, so the different ways we could have split up, we were never together. It was either me or Olivia. We never split up in our own way, like until now. Right. And so the fact that we ended up working so closely together is actually kind of odd,
Starting point is 00:08:44 but back to the childhood gripe, like we were all really close growing up, but yeah, I guess you and I were the least close. So if there was anyone I would have a gripe with, it's you and I could tell you I don't. Great, I don't have one with you. Because that was kind of the thing, like you didn't even literally talk to me
Starting point is 00:08:57 like enough to have a gripe, do you know what I mean? Like. Seven seasons later. The gripe has been. It's good to know that we don't have a gripe. We are washing our hands of this gripe. No, we're all good over here. No, no, no, that's really funny. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I guess like growing up, something that frustrated me was like, I could never, when Olivia and I like started to make like friends that would like drive us places and stuff, like even when we were driving with like our counselor or our friends who drove, like I was never allowed to sit shotgun, like she always was sitting shotgun because she's older and that's just how it like goes in the family. Actually this book we read for Redhead shreds And when we were driving with like our counselor, our friends who drove, like I was never allowed to sit shotgun, like she always was sitting shotgun
Starting point is 00:09:25 because she's older and that's just how it like goes in the family. Actually this book we read for Redhead Shred Sisters, like the younger sister, it's all about her gripes with her older sister and like she never got to sit in the front seat and like, yeah, that's facts. That is annoying, like to never get it. Right, now people give me the front seat.
Starting point is 00:09:41 One, it's like nobody wants it anymore, like sitting in the back, it's like rolling. The cool kids, yeah. But because of my nausea, I have been promoted to the front seat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so great. You have been promoted. Margot, I guess, I wonder if she, did she talk on the redheads at her middle seat drama?
Starting point is 00:09:57 Cause like when we would get in a car, it was always the same, you know, layout. Mom in the front, live in the front. Us three in the back, but who wants the middle? The youngest sister gets the middle. It's a worse seat, you don't have armrests, everybody's like kicking you, there's nowhere to put your legs.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And that was Margo's designated spot for life. What does she feel about that? Did she discuss that on the Red Heads? Does she have middle seat trauma gripes? No, she didn't mention it. And now with captain seats, like where does the youngest child go? Back, back?
Starting point is 00:10:24 What's preferred, middle seat or back back? I think back back, you get a whole row. She would have loved that. 1000% if only we had a three row vehicle at the time. Oh, sister tings. Oh, sister tings. We have a lot to discuss today. There are stories, there's dear toasters.
Starting point is 00:10:42 So I'm ready to dive in unless there's anything we haven't covered that you would like to discuss. No, I'm ready to dive in unless there's anything we haven't covered that you would like to discuss. No, I'm ready to dive in because I saw you recently. I bid you adieu. And then that was that. Not much else has happened. So without further ado, here are the Fast Five Stories that you need to know.
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Starting point is 00:16:04 It's very musical theater of me. I feel like that's like the transition from one scene to another, then it's nighttime. Yeah, I prefer ooh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, as a transition. Oh, I like that too. I prefer, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, for. Well, speaking of wicked, our first story, Golden Globe nominations.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Golden Globe nominations are out and actually. Is it a story that Jay-Z was like out and about last night? No, like, cause it's just a premiere for. Yeah, I just want to talk about it briefly after remind me, cause I had a thought. Okay, you can talk about it now. Okay, so Jay-Z like forced his family to go out last night. You know they were fighting in the car
Starting point is 00:16:46 being like Beyonce's like, seriously, you and your stage reputation, now I have to be seen with you. Tina was there too. But they were showing up for blue. For blue, for blue, of course. I'm just, could the timing have been worse? Seriously, these people never leave the house.
Starting point is 00:16:59 At this point, like I think Beyonce has more like clout in the relationship where it's like, if she doesn't wanna go to something, if she's not doing him this favor, she's not gonna do it. But she didn't. Well, he shouldn't have went. Yeah, but don't you think that's a sign of an admission?
Starting point is 00:17:14 I know, but this is Blue Ivy's big night and we're talking about Jay-Z. He should not have went, and it wouldn't have been a big deal if they had Tina, Beyonce, three generation, Noah's women. Yeah, of women, beautiful, he's a business man. Non-problematic queens. He could have been on a business trip.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, like I get what they're doing. He's like, he's maintaining his innocence. I have nothing to hide. So yeah, we're going to move south from Mufasa and you're gonna like it. But I was really shook to see him and then seriously three seconds later on the red carpet, Krystle Kang Minkoff and her family
Starting point is 00:17:40 because it's her husband's directorial movie. Right, cause he did Lion King. He is actually such a big deal. They didn't even play that up that much. Like she could have been way more annoying. He is such a big deal Rob with the Lion King and obviously Mufasa is like a spinoff of it. So I was shocked to see, and they brought their kids
Starting point is 00:17:56 and they did like a cute little, she's actually had a cloud. She didn't use it right. She could have done better, but I thought it was interesting to see. But I was shocked Jackie. Guess, did you see what Blue Ivy was wearing first of all? She looked gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Yes. How old do you think Blue Ivy is? I feel like we know that she's probably 16, 15. She's 12. Okay, I don't know where I was. It said like Blue Ivy, 12. I was like, excuse me? Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I thought she was 17. Like I was shocked. Just fun fact. Very exciting for Blue and Mufasa. So it's the origin story of Mufasa, which like should be a good movie because I loved what they did with the Lion King live action. Like seriously, Pargy Perfection.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Pargy Perfection, whoever did that, like you have creative- You know who did it. Yeah, Ly, Dan. Jon Favreau. Oh, was it not Crystal lie, uh, Dan. Jon Favreau. Oh, was it not Crystal's husband? No, like Jon Favreau directed that movie, which is the weirdest fact.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Okay, we need to talk about Jon Favreau. Like I know we have a lot to do today, but just really quickly- The thing is, back in 2020, like we had an episode titled like Jon Favreau, where we did talk about him. Because Jon Favreau is like the biggest director of all time. Every time I'm even watching like an old movie, it'll say to be directed by Jon Favreau. But are you also telling me that that's Jon Favreau is like the biggest director of all time. Every time I'm even watching like an old movie, it'll say to be directed by Jon Favreau.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But are you also telling me that that's Jon Favreau, the actor who we know from like stuff? I believe so. Like I think that we did this. So writer, actor, producer. Yeah, he's a producer on all these things like Mandalorian. He's in Iron Man. I think Young Sheldon.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yes. Oh my God. Yes, yes, Man. I think Young Sheldon. Yes. Oh my God. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. And I believe The Lion King. Yeah, here it is. He's a producer on The Lion King, the live action one. But he's also an actor.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Now, I think his acting days are a little bit behind him. I think he's been eclipsed by himself. But I know his face. And how many directors' faces do I know? I know him because he's an actor. He's in that movie, Couples Retreat, where they all are like, you know, on the last leg of their relationship.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So they go on vacation. Okay. That's a good movie. It is. That's just like a thing in Hollywood. Like that's just like a cultural blind spot for me. How Jon Favreau, like the actor, who's like that funny big guy, is also like one of the most critically acclaimed. He's literally like a- He's like Reese Withers guy is also like one of the most critically acclaimed. He's literally like a...
Starting point is 00:20:06 He's like Reese Witherspoon. James Cameron, like he does everything. Okay, I was confused about that. Like, thank you, I need to clear that up. Anyways, now back to our first story, if we may. Golden Globe nominations are here. And really awkwardly, Amelia Perez is dominating with 10 nominations.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And like, I'm glad to know what we found out yesterday. Otherwise I'd be like, oh, this is probably amazing and Selena deserves the globe. Here are the nominees. It's so crazy. I just wanna say, I read a lot of our comments yesterday, the Latina community, like they do not stand for this. Like they're not standing with Selena.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Like they actually found it downright offensive. And I stand with my tostada community. So I stand by what I said. Even though the Selenators were coming at me, like I actually don't care. The Selenators are always coming at you. Like three things you can be certain of, death, taxes, and the Selenators coming for you.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Coming at someone. Coming for anyone. Yeah, Selena also like finds herself in a lot of peculiar situations. So I feel like being a fan of hers is actually a full-time job, like defensively. Do you know what I mean? Like you're always defending her acting.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And I actually, somebody commented, was like, what is up with like the Selenators? Like they're always having to defend Selena's like inability to do her job. Like whenever, remember when she last performed at that award show AMAs and like she actually couldn't sing, dance or even walk. And everybody was like, you try performing
Starting point is 00:21:23 in front of thousands, It's not my job. Like, and so I thought that was actually really an astute observation. Like being a salinator is a full-time 360 degree operation. Best motion picture drama. The Brutalist, A Complete Unknown. Oh, I've heard of that because that's Bob Marley, Timothy. Oh, Timothee.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Conclave, Dune Part Two. That's also Timothy Timothy right? Yeah. Nickel Boys, less than Nickelback. I prefer Nickelback. And September 5. I haven't heard of any of these movies as the years go on like usually there was two and then there's one that I've even heard of. I haven't even heard of any of these. I'm not a movie buff. Give it all to Wicked. It's the only movie anybody cared about this year. Like seriously, how is it even not nominated? So, the Golden Globes splits up best picture for drama
Starting point is 00:22:11 and then musical or comedy, whereas the Oscars, it's all one category. So here are the movies that you've heard of for best motion picture, musical or comedy. Oh, okay, thank you. Anora, no. Challengers, Amelia Perez, A Real Pain, The Substance, Wicked.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Okay, so here's the one you heard of. So here's what I, all I needed to know. Give it to Wicked. Well, of course give it to Wicked. But I saw Challengers, me and Ben watched it. We enjoyed it, I mean, we watched the whole thing. I didn't think it was amazing, I got through it. The fact that that's what's considered, that's the bar.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I feel like when I was younger, the bar for movies that were nominated for Oscars and Golden Globes was so much higher. Like this movie about like nothing that doesn't even have an ending, that's made the list. Oh, like the bar has been lowered in my time. Yes, but also it's two categories. So that's like 10 movies and I wonder if it were one, maybe it's less.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Right. I'm not even gonna tell it like, my opinion here is like so irrelevant. It's wicked. I saw wicked. But I guess like my opinion here is like so irrelevant. It's wicked. I saw wicked. But I guess like what also like looked good enough to see cause I saw wicked for a reason cause it looks like market it was marketed well.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Yeah. And it's a great story. Like nothing else where I'm like, oh, I have to go and see that. Well, I saw challengers not because even Barbie I didn't see in theaters. I didn't even see challengers because it looked so compelling. There was a lot of discourse about it online
Starting point is 00:23:27 because there's like this one almost threesome scene and I was like, I gotta see what everyone's talking about. So I don't even feel like the movie was adequately marketed towards me. I watched it because I'm like a loser who doesn't wanna be left out. Understood. And that's my truth.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So now you're in, how does it feel? I'll never get those two hours back. And like the movie did not have an ending. I can't stress that enough Interesting next is best motion picture animated flow Inside out too as I get older like this becomes my dominant category because this is what I've watched but I've not Jackie's it's the The circle of life. No, I haven't seen any of these though, but I've heard of two of them.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Flo, Inside Out 2, Memoir of a Snail, gotta see that. Memoirs of a Gay Shaw? Memoirs of a Snail Shaw. Okay. Moana 2, Wallace and Gromit, Vengeance Most Foul, and The Wild Robot. Can't believe I missed that one. I actually feel like there wasn't an animated film this year
Starting point is 00:24:29 that took the kids community by storm and adults. It wasn't like a Frozen where it's like, wow, this is a cultural shift for the children. The kids were obsessed, but then seriously, even the pair, and Kondo, like Coco, there are ones every year that really transcend age and I actually don't feel like any of these
Starting point is 00:24:47 may be inside out too, but I didn't even hear it was that good. Yeah, and it's a sequel. Like it had the established audience. They didn't have to do much. Yeah, so I'm not sure. Now this next category is like the swirly one. Cinematic and box office achievement.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So like popular. Yeah, movies that performed well. First, Alien, Romulus. No. Second, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Third, Deadpool and Wolverine. Four, Gladiator 2. Five, Inside Out.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Six, Twisters. Seven, Wicked, Eight, The Wild Robot. I feel like I was just thinking of something that should have been here that's surprising that's not here. Well, Wicked's gonna win. You think so? Yeah. Is that the biggest movie of the year? Well, becauseicked's gonna win. You think so? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Is that the biggest movie of the year? Well, because this category is like for lowbrow movies that had big budgets that weren't like artsy enough for the main category, but Wicked is in the main category too, so it has to win. By the way, here's a crazy suggestion for what should have been nominated.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It ends with us. 1000%. Thank you. Thank you very much. Oh, you just know Justin Baldoni is vomiting. He's gonna get nominated for director. And neither did John Chu. I know, people are mad about that
Starting point is 00:25:51 and they're right for that. 1000%. Maybe now, like I feel like they didn't expect Wicked to have the effect that it did. And he'll definitely get nominated next year, like with the sequel, but it's too little too late. Just like they didn't nominate Ari for the Oscarsars like don't sleep on Wicked. It's wrong. Don't bet against Wicked. What was the I actually didn't see the nominees for the
Starting point is 00:26:11 original song. Did Luke Holmes get a nomination? Because seriously Oklahoma from Twisters is not only an amazing song it was immensely popular. Great question best original song motion picture beautiful that way from the last show girl which actually Miley is on. So Miley is nominated for a Globe. Then Compress and Repress from Challengers, El Mal, Amelia Perez, Forbidden Road, Better Man, and Kiss the Sky, The Wild Robot.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's wrong. Luke Combs deserved a nomination for Oklahoma and from the Twister soundtrack. And he deserved a win for that. 1,000%. But like a recent nomination. Another song from Amelia Pres was also nominated. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:26:47 That's insane, like for real. Twisters put out a whole ass album of songs. Originals. Sick. That's wrong. Then we have best performance. There's so many, cause it's broken down by musical versus drama.
Starting point is 00:26:58 There are so many categories, but I'm gonna just breeze through them if I may. Just the highlights please. Best performance by a female in a motion picture drama. Pamela Anderson, The Last Showgirl, Angelina Jolie, Maria, Nicole Kidman, Baby Girl, Tilda Swinton, The Room Next Door, Fernanda Torres, I'm Still Here, Kate Winslet, Lee. Star studded category by the way.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, yeah. Next, best performance by a male actor in a motion picture drama. Adrienne Brody, The Brutalist, always a always a good choice my friends Timothy Chalamet a complete unknown Daniel Craig queer Coleman Domingo sing-sing Ralph Phineas conclave Sebastian Stan the apprentice don't care Best performance by female actor in a motion picture musical or comedy Amy Adams night bitch Cynthia Riva Wiccan Carla Sofia Gasco and Amelia Perez Mikey Madison, An Anora, Demi Moore, The Substance, Zendaya, Challengers.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's Cynthia's award to lose. You think? I think that about Ariana too. I don't know if both will win. Like, is that crazy? I don't know. It depends how much like Wicked has endeared the industry. You know, I just don't know, it depends how much like Wicked has endeared the industry, you know? I just don't know the politics.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah, yeah, Golden Globes is so political. Yeah, all these awards are about politicals and campaigns and I just don't know if they wanna give it all to Wicked. I feel like they don't. I feel like they don't either, especially because the only thing that discredits Wicked is that it's an adaptation.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So it's not like an original script or an original story. It's actually an adaptation of an adaptation. Do you know what I mean? Everything these days is an adaptation. I know, I know. But if you wanted to critique it compared to like other films, you could say, well, this is an original story and this is not.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah. Then best performance by a male actor in a motion picture, musical or comedy, Jesse Eisenberg, a real pain, Hugh Grant, heretic, Gabriel LaBelle, Saturday Night, Jesse Plemons, Kindness, Glenn Powell, hit man, Sebastian Stan, a different man. I don't know any of these,
Starting point is 00:28:57 but give it to Jesse Plemons. Nobody works harder. But seriously, did you see how fat he got for that Elizabeth Olsen TV show? Yeah. Like that man is committed. And by the time it was award season, he was back to his OG weight.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Like seriously, anyone willing to put their body through that deserves all the awards, cause I wouldn't. No, and he's like, he's an actor who like does it for the art, like not for the celebrity. Oh, he loves to fucking act. And he got his start on the greatest show of all time, Friday Night Lights. And he's married to K the greatest show of all time, Friday Night Lights. Like we forget.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And he's married to Kirsten Dunn. It's like, the facts are so fun about him. Oh, and he's in our favorite episode of Black Mirror. Oh my God, stop. I think about that episode all the time. The one where he's like, kidnaps his coworkers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And puts them in his video game. And then like they end up killing him and he like dies like on his video game. Like it was so good. Yeah, best performance by a female actor in a supporting role in any motion picture. Selena Gomez, Amelia Perez. So this is not looking good today. Ariana Grande, Wicked.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Felicity Jones, The Brutalist. Margaret Qualley, The Substance. Isabella Rossellini, Conclave. Zoe Saldana, Amelia Perez. And I don't want the Selenators to come for me. This is just like, I would say this about anyone. I feel like for her performance to have been so discredited by like the community it was made for
Starting point is 00:30:09 and then her to get a Golden Globe nomination the next day actually really discredits the pargyness of a Golden Globe. Like it really, like it has widely been just she wasn't even speaking the right, she wasn't even speaking the right, she wasn't even speaking the language correctly, but you think that's the best of the year? Like, I feel like it's actually not a good look
Starting point is 00:30:31 for the Golden Globes. No, I agree. It's not, it's not looking well. And then best TV series drama, The Day of the Jackal, The Diplomat, Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Prime Video, Shogun, Slow Horses, Squid Game. I just know nobody watched the Mr. and Mrs. Smith reboot. Video, Shogun, Slow Horses, Squid Game. I just know nobody watched the Mr. and Mrs. Smith reboot.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like I saw like one commercial for it. They didn't even like market it that much. I can't believe it's been nominated for something. That's what I'm saying. Like really? And then best TV series, musical or comedy, which is like what would be swirly, is Abbott Elementary, The Bear, The Gentleman, Hacks,
Starting point is 00:31:02 Nobody Wants This, Only Murders murders in the building so happy for Aaron Foster Um, I think I do you know Sarah's worked on the show, too Yes, yes, it's Aaron's like baby, but Sarah like was a part of it for sure But like when you like she would be up there on stage accepting the award with her which we would love to see I Though know that the bear is gonna win and like that just must be annoying for Aaron Foster cuz like it's enough already with that Joe it's not already with that show It's not an honor to be nominated
Starting point is 00:31:27 No, like I When we talk about shows everybody was watching and talking about this year, like it was nobody wants this Yeah, it's really true. I think it like broke all the streaming records like for Netflix, correct So I feel like they could win I feel like they could I just get like these awards like they don't care about what's popular and it's so annoying, things are popular for a reason. No, and they put that one category in for box office achievements so that they don't have to deal with popularity
Starting point is 00:31:51 and other categories. There also was a category for concert films, am I correct? Like concert DVDs and Taylor Swift was not nominated, which is shocking. That is shocking. Yeah, I guess it came out. For hours. Did it come, it came out two years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:04 No, one, last October. Last October. Would it be, I think it was included like in this, I'm not sure actually, don't quote me on this. I just read stuff on social media. The other notable nomination is Best Performance. It was last year, sorry, sorry. Best Performance in Stand Up Comedy on TV,
Starting point is 00:32:22 Jamie Foxx, which is called What Had Happened Was, and we're actually talking about that later. Nikki Glaser, Seth Meyers, Adam Sandler, Ali Wong, and Rami Youssef. But Nikki Glaser is the host of the award show, and she could also be a winner. That would be cool. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And when you talk about like who made waves in comedy this year, like it was Nikki Glaser. It was Nikki Glaser. Although again, Shane Gillis like being snubbed is like, they just don't like him. Like he's not industry approved because that really was the comedy event of the year. Like everybody was talking about it.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Right. So I will watch the Golden Globes in the beginning in earnest, see how it's going, but I don't have a big stake in who's gonna win. No, me neither, but I'm gonna tune in because I wanna see Nikki Glaser and I wanna see Wicked. Yeah. And is there a performance?
Starting point is 00:33:10 I feel like they're only gonna perform at the Oscars. Yes, and they're not nominated for a song though. Are there performances at the Golden Globes? I don't think so. I don't think so, but also it's only the songs that are nominated that perform. So they, and also their songs aren't original. Oh my God, so they might not even perform.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah. They'll have to find a way around that. They'll figure it out. I'm not worried. They will. Anyways, it's really like list time of year, which this was like, we always do nominations, but our next story is a big list news. Okay. Because the short list
Starting point is 00:33:42 for times person of the Year has been announced. I always forget that they tell you like the 10 people that they're choosing from. Oh, oh, I didn't know that it was like an official list from Time, I thought it was like everybody guessing. No, it's at time.com, they reveal their 10 candidates on the Today Show. Do people vote or it's already done?
Starting point is 00:34:01 It's already, like they vote, but they're letting you know who was in consideration. So it's just like a great way to see the year at a glance. I would say it is. And I feel like this year, not only because it was an election year, but like just because of everything going on in the world, like was so political. Like I don't think they could or should give it to like a Taylor Swift this year. Whereas in years past, like it was so her year.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I think giving it to someone who's not like a world leader or a politician would be wrong. Like between like Israel, Ukraine, like there was the election, there was a lot politically going on in the world this year. Yeah, and that was the big theme of the year. We were even talking about on our Patreon episode when we tried to do like Thanksgiving table topics.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Trying not to talk about like politics or the election is literally impossible this year, unless you wanna talk about the Listeria outbreak. Which by the way, I don't know if you wanna talk about whilst you're eating Turkey, but it is a big deal that Listeria outbreak. And we like boys had get away with far too much. Yes, but your Turkey at Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:34:55 like was hopefully cooked through. And it's a delicate thing. I'm just saying as a society, we moved off from that Listeria outbreak far too fast. And it went on way too long. And now like with the E. coli and the carrots, what's going on? It's like, if everybody could just wash their hands,
Starting point is 00:35:09 like that would be great. Especially those who work near food. That's being mass produced. So here are the contenders for Time's Person of the Year. One, Kamala Harris. Two, Kate Middleton. It was a big year for Kate Middleton. That was Q1, but still.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, but compared to the other people on the list, like seriously. I don't think she's gonna get it, but it was actually. That would be crazy. She was a big part of the year. Everyone was talking about her, the conspiracies. Yeah, no, everyone was talking about her, but actually overall she was.
Starting point is 00:35:40 No, she was till Easter. She was MIA for most of the year. Like that's what the story was about. So how could it be 10% of the year if you don't leave your house? Okay, so she wouldn't win for you. No, who was the first one? Kamala.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Okay, like that would make sense. Three, Elon. Also would make sense. I wonder, has he ever won? I'll go back and look at past, but I think- I'll look it up. I think that at some point in his life- I don't think he's won.
Starting point is 00:36:03 He should be person of the year. And maybe this year was a big Elon year, the cyber truck, the robot, Kim's boyfriend. Uh-huh, okay, previous time people of the year, let me know when you're ready. I'm ready, like in the last 10 years, you know? Okay, because they have me starting from 1927. Also interesting,
Starting point is 00:36:20 but we don't have all the time in the world on the cards. For some reason, this list is only starting me at 2019, I mean at 2019 and it was Greta Thun. Oh wait, but, oh, yikes. In 2023, it was Taylor Swift and then- That felt right. The year before was the Ukrainian president Zelensky and the spirit of Ukraine together.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Oh, not the spirit. The spirit and the president. Elon was 2021 and then Joe and Kamala 2020 and what was Greta Thune. Joe and how they were 2020. The guardians aren't those the COVID nurses. No, that's what I thought. But this person is what year. Oh, all are journalists who were violently attacked or slapped with criminal charges in an empowering effort to silence the free press worldwide.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I must've missed that one. Taylor Swift is also- I like a person. Me too, me too. Or like a couple of people, cause 2017 was the Silence Breakers. A couple of journalists, or a couple of Silence Breakers. The voices that launched the silence breakers. A couple of journalists or a couple of silence breakers. The voices that launched the Me Too movement.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So like Taylor Swift and other notable swirlies. 2016 was Trump, 2015 Merkel. What is she the prime minister or president? Merkel, not Markle. Merkel, I said. I know, but it sounded like Markle and I was like, oh, honestly, she could have too. She should have been. I mean, 2020 was such a busy year and who knew at the outset when they meds it
Starting point is 00:37:47 that they'd be totally eclipsed by a virus but like 2020 was their year but this is 2015 Angela Merkel's Angela Merkel 2014 the Ebola fighters that was like such a throwback Ebola yeah 2013 Pope Francis 2012 Obama so it seems like in most election years it's they give it to the person who Francis, 2012 Obama. So it seems like in most election years, they give it to the person who won. So 2012 Obama, 2016 Trump, 20 Joe and Kamala. Oh, not Joe getting like half. A piece for Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:38:17 By logic, and I know he's on the list, 2024 would be Trump. But this also just was like such a busy year. Yes, so let's continue through the list. Another nominee, Yulia Navalnaya. She is the wife of Alexei who died in February. He's like a Russian, political oppositionist.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Also nominated, Benjamin Netanyahu. Prime minister of Israel. Next, Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve. I didn't really feel like it was Jerome's year. And I actually have some questions for Jerome. I just paid my taxes and I would love to see an itemized list of what it's going to. I don't know if that's the Reserves Department or the IRS.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I just feel like they're all working together to hurt me. Yeah, but also- I don't want it to go to Jerome. Jerome's big thing is the interest rates, which have been so high. Jerome's like big thing is like the interest rates which have been like so high. It's kind of been a perjury year for interest. Yeah, for interest, but not the interest rate payers. No, no, but everyone's talking,
Starting point is 00:39:14 the name on everybody's list is interest and inflation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also nominated, big for podcasting, Joe Rogan. You know what? I actually feel like if there was a year for Joe Rogan to win, it wouldn't have been this. I understand he even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. I'm not even sure. What was Elon doing in 21? I think that was the year he like recycled a rocket ship, which was like his biggest feat to date. Like you're not spending $10 billion to build a rocket ship that only goes up once.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That was his documentary on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his idea that he stole from Sheldon. Yes, exactly. Catching the rocket in the water. Exactly. Yeah, that was big. And then also he had a big year of rockets this year.
Starting point is 00:40:02 So it actually could be him because of what he did with that tower, catching the rocket and it's clause. Perhaps. Then Claudia Scheinbaum, not to be mistaken with Claudia Asher, but she is actually Mexico's first ever female president. Oh, she's Jewish.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. Well, obviously Scheinbaum. Yeah. I feel like I heard about her when she was one, because everyone is like, her name is Claudia and she's Jewish and then I never heard about her making strides and that's not to say she's not like a successful president. I'm just saying as somebody who lives a little bit north of Mexico, like I don't hear about her work a lot. Like I hear about Macron, like I hear about what Trudeau is up to. I actually feel like it's not her year, Scheinbaum.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Sorry. No, it wasn't her year. Then Trump for winning the election, but also the assassination attempts. I really don't see how it's not him. Well, also, it's kind of like their thing that they do, like the person who wins for the last X amount of years. I bet Obama won in 2008 for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, oh, for sure, because it was his first win. Right, 2008, 2012, 16. I don't know, but it was a competitive year. The short list is kind of like. Who would be your number two thought for it? Who's his biggest competition? Also, let me just also say the final nominee is Mark Zuckerberg, like no thanks.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Oh no, I actually feel like he had quite a loser-y year. Thanks, but no thanks. There have been previous years where he was like, oh we were always watching those Senate hearings, right? And then he had the viral surfboard moment. I feel like he was kind of low key this year, getting a tan and a stylist. I feel like it's not his year.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, so who do you think it would be? Read me the list top to bottom one more time. Okay. Okay, so we have Kamala, Kate Middleton, Elon. It can't be Kamala. She didn't win. No, Kate Middleton, Elon. It can't be Kamala. She didn't win. No, she was literally the not person. Yeah, and it can't be Kate Middleton either.
Starting point is 00:41:52 She was not visible. So XX. Elon. It could be. Yulia Navalnaya. I don't know. I know like the work of her husband and the bravery. I don't know enough.
Starting point is 00:42:04 So I'll leave her. I'm not gonna ask her, but I'm not sure. Not to Yahoo. They're not gonna give it to him. And also it would have been last year. Yeah. Yeah, actually it would have. Although like this year was like big for him with you know, Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 The war started in Q4 of last year. By the way, I could definitely see, I would say the biggest story of the year is the war in Gaza in addition to the election. And it was such a big story of the year is the war in Gaza. In addition to the election, and it was such a big part of the election. And I think why people voted the way that they did. So I actually think Netanyahu is a formidable opponent. You think he's number two?
Starting point is 00:42:36 To Trump, yeah, or Elon, but yeah, no, I would say second to Trump. Jerome Powell, Joe Rogan, Claudia Scheinbaum, Trump Zuckerberg. No, okay, yeah. It's gonna be Claudia Scheinbaum, Trump. No, no. Okay, yeah, it's gonna be in my opinion, Trump or Bebsters. Or Elon. Or Elon, yeah. I think it will be Trump or Elon, I guess,
Starting point is 00:42:56 or not, I just don't see it going that way. I also, I don't see them breaking their streak. Like this is clearly what they do, time, strategically for the last decade or two. So we'll be sat until they announce. When did they say they're announcing? It's crazy that like there's really no celebrities. Oh, I love a little short.
Starting point is 00:43:13 This is a good, I like how they did this. It's interesting that there's no celebrities on this list with the exception of Kate Middleton, but she is like a dignitary. Yeah, I think it wasn't a good year for celebrities. I think so too, because if we're talking about the biggest year of celebrities, like it was Taylor Swift, but compared to last year,
Starting point is 00:43:30 it sort of leveled out. We're all just like used to it now, you know? So last year really was her year. Yeah. And this year she just like worked a lot. Yeah, hustle, you know, what's that saying? Moving in silence. My talk's wealth whispers.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I never can remember. I remember I saw it in a commercial with like Michael Phelps where it's like what you do in the dark will show in the light Yeah, I like that doing his workouts at dawn and like it's literally dark out. No one can see but then like game time It's bright all that work shows through no people who constantly talk about how hard they work Like you're not you're not working hard at all Yeah, cuz if you have so much time to they work, like you're not working hard at all. Yeah. Because if you have so much time to chat about it, like you could be working. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like the work is what happens when like nobody sees the work. You just see the result. Correct. Are you ready for our third story? Am I? No. I feel like no. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:48:40 Right now you can get an exclusive 20% off on your first order at thrivecosmetics.com slash toast. That's thrive C A U S E M E T I C S dot com slash toast for 20% off your first order. Thank you slash chart. What can I say? I also just want to say I think someone who was snubbed for being on this short list even though she probably wouldn't have won but like was a person of the year was Simone Biles. Oh my God, I forgot that the Olympics also happened this year. That's a great call. There are no athletes on that list either. Yeah, I feel like she was just a real symbol
Starting point is 00:49:15 of strength and perseverance. And it was her year. She made us so proud as Americans. And she acted so, like she held her head. She acted with such grace and like even she never really told us until now what happened in 2020. She let everybody say all the shit about her. She really acted like such a queen.
Starting point is 00:49:36 And then she also in her personal life. You're so right. That's a great call. I think it was like really a big year for her. And not that she should be the person of the year, but like definitely had a real big impact on the world. She should be on the list. She should be the person of the year, but like definitely had a real big impact on the world this year. She should be on the list.
Starting point is 00:49:45 She should be on the list as should Molly Mae for everything she went through. 1000%. Okay, our next story I actually meant to choose yesterday and I forgot and then we need to talk about it cause we need to like, you know, bring this story full circle, which is that Ariana Grande has reacted to the viral holding space wicked interview
Starting point is 00:50:00 and explaining like her POV, which really just like adds new color to the whole conversation and buttons it up nicely. Yeah, I mean, I think Arianna's POV and then we had heard from the journalist now we've heard from Ari. I feel like- And Cynthia also, but like-
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, but I feel like Ari's POV really explains like the entire miscommunication is Cynthia's fault. Yeah, and Cynthia's like taking that on and they are also laughing with this. So yes, she's being cool about it because like I think if she had taken herself so seriously again, like with her AI generated, she would have gotten clowned on. So she actually is rolling with it because the okay just explain. So Ari admitted in a new interview that she didn't know the meaning behind the holding space comment made in the now viral interview
Starting point is 00:50:45 She took part in with Cynthia during their wicked press tour So she said quote so I had no idea what any part of it meant She said when they sat down for the chat She said I didn't understand the first sentence and then I definitely definitely didn't understand what was happening and how you responded She said to cynthia. I was like, oh, what did she just say? What did you hear and I just wanted to be there because I knew something big was happening and I didn't know how to be there. So that's when also she like took her by the finger
Starting point is 00:51:12 to like be there for her. But also in a tentative way, which explains why it's like just a finger and not a hand. And this sort of like really provides context to the whole exchange that like, Ari didn't know what was happening was just like, maybe thought she missed something. And it's just sort of like when provides context to the whole exchange that like, Ari didn't know what was happening, was just like maybe thought she missed something and it's just sort of like when the teacher calls on you
Starting point is 00:51:29 and you don't know, you weren't paying attention. And then the interviewer knew she hadn't said anything yet. But the interviewer said that this was not her question. It was a lead up just to ask whatever question was coming up, but she never even got to the question because Cynthia ran with this couple of words. And so Ari and the interviewer both didn't know what was going on
Starting point is 00:51:50 and Cynthia's just like being sweet, having this emotional moment. I need to hear from Cynthia now, like what did you think you were being asked? Or what compliment did you think you were being paid? You know, that they're holding space for the lyrics of Divine Gravity. In the interview we're referring to with Ariana,
Starting point is 00:52:10 Cynthia's sitting right next to her. I wish Cynthia had said, by the way, so everyone was confused about, you know, why I had this moment. Here's what I thought I was being asked because the interviewer, that wasn't her question. Right. It was a precursor to the question, a lead up.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Ari had no fucking idea what was going on. So why did she, why was she so breathless? Right, well, I just, I have a couple of thoughts. One, like I'm glad that we're all on the same page about this, that it was like an overblown moment and they can laugh about it. And I actually think- Oh, great. I think the AI moment actually needed to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Otherwise, maybe Cynthia would have had like- A different reaction to this. A different reaction and like, and taking it more seriously. Where it's like she learned like not everything on the internet is so serious. However, this one went viral because like one person tweeted like the clip and said like,
Starting point is 00:52:54 I have no idea what just happened here. And then everybody like felt the same way. But I also feel like these things happen all the time. Like, so the fact that even Ari like knew what moment, like remembered the moment. Well, that the fact that even Ari knew what moment, like remembered the moment. Well, that's what's so interesting about the internet is that this particular interview wasn't streamed anywhere. Like, it was just one tweet that set off,
Starting point is 00:53:16 it was such an organic viral moment because people try to go viral all the time. Like, yeah, it might get like millions of views, but it doesn't capture the culture. Yeah. And so what's so funny about this is that it was seriously, it was weeks later that this person on Twitter discovered the clip. It never went anywhere.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So just you have to think of how many moments like this go undiscovered and how many people just go through conversations, like not knowing what the other person said and just being like, yeah, wow, that's really powerful. I mean, think about personally, how many times in your everyday life, like seriously, are you talking to somebody? You've kind of missed the initial question or the initial, and you just nod, yeah, wow, that's really powerful. I mean, think about personally, how many times in your everyday life, like seriously, are you talking to somebody?
Starting point is 00:53:45 You've kind of missed the initial question or the initial, and you just nod, yeah. Yeah, it's very funny, but I feel like very glad that they have now talked about it. John Chu is there, they're all laughing about it. It's all funny. Oh yeah, John Chu is there. It's all funny, ha ha, and I do feel ready to move on.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Me too, me too, because we're getting dangerously close to ruining this. It's still funny, but we're, it's getting a little less funny and I could taste like the ruining. Yeah. So I'm ready. So let's just end it here. To move forward. Me too.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Into our next story, which is Jamie Foxx tearfully describing exactly what led to his mystery hospitalization in the new Netflix special. Oh yeah. Yeah. So, Jamie Foxx on Tuesday, today, his Netflix special just dropped. Yeah, so Jamie Foxx on Tuesday, today, his Netflix special just dropped. It's called Jamie Foxx, What Had Happened Was, and he is talking about the time.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Wait, how was he nominated for a Golden Globe when it came out today? Well, that's just industry tings now. That's weird, no? Do you not agree? No, I do agree, yeah. Okay. Because I was thinking when you said it,
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'm like, wow, I literally missed a whole, like I didn't even hear about it. Like. Right, no, today's the day. He's like, wow, I've really had my head buried in the sand this year. He has previously only attributed his health scare to a bad headache, but during that time,
Starting point is 00:54:59 the Oscar winner was taken to a doctor in Georgia who gave him a cortisone shot and sent him on his way. He said, what the fuck is that? I don't know if you can do Yelps for doctors, but that has half a star. He said his sister, Deidre, subsequently took him to the hospital where he said the Angel staff saved his life
Starting point is 00:55:14 and put him back together. He explained that a doctor told his sibling horrible news about his condition at the time revealing, quote, he's having a brain bleed that has led to a stroke. If I don't go to his head right now, we're going to lose him. Is it from the cortisone shot or like the thing that was ailing him before?
Starting point is 00:55:29 He was having a headache. The doctor gave him a cortisone shot, said you're good to go. That's a crazy like thing to give. Right, and so Hollywood. The headache was coming from a brain bleed that led to a stroke. The sister was told that, quote,
Starting point is 00:55:44 we didn't find where it was coming from, but he's having a stroke, he may be able to make a full recovery, but it's going to be the worst year of his life. He talks about like being in surgery, he didn't see the light during his procedure, but he remembered feeling oddly peaceful in a tunnel. However, he joked, it was hot in that tunnel, shit, am I going in the wrong place in this motherfucker?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Because I looked at the end of the tunnel and I thought I saw the devil. Like, come on. That's so funny, by the way. Because this is also a comedy special. Right, no, and everybody who does comedy talks about the same couple of things, but very few people have actually experienced a near death.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And this is a good fodder. Am I the only one who didn't know Jamie Foxx did stand up? I knew he acted and I knew he did comedy acting. Yeah, no, you weren't alone. When I saw he had this special, I literally had to go back, is this comedy? Yeah, I guess so many people who are famous actors of today, funny actors, got their start doing standup.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Maybe they left it behind. The Jerry Seinfelds of the world never stopped doing standup. Some people do. It's kind of a means to an end for them. So I don't know that I knew this. Yeah, me neither. And it is a good way to talk about the thing,
Starting point is 00:56:47 what had happened to him that everyone was talking about that I don't think there's any way for him to like explain it concisely because it's such a big thing. And then the recovery, so he woke up, he was in a wheelchair. He was like, why the fuck am I in a wheelchair? I'm just coming out of shit.
Starting point is 00:57:00 He said he thought the whole thing was like a prank, but it took him like months to recuperate, come out of the hospital, like get his physical abilities back. So it's just been a real big journey for him. And he's talking about it in this special. I like that. I really liked Jamie Foxx.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Like I am endeared to him so deeply because of dream girls. Like he was just my favorite. And I feel like we're in this time, weird time in Hollywood where like these- And he's also a singer. Yes, I knew that. Dreamgirls. I'm endeared to him from Annie.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Oh, tracks. Well, I feel like we're at this place in culture where we're looking at these really OG Hollywood people. We're looking at them a little suspiciously, right? Everyone I see, I just saw these pictures of Ashton Kutcher, like he had stage paparazzi of him giving $100 to a valet, like tip, did you see him, like the hundred was like literally
Starting point is 00:57:49 pointed toward the camera? Everybody is on some sort of like PR mission with the diddy stuff. And so, I am looking at everybody quite suspiciously and I just, in my mind, Jamie Foxx is safe. Jamie Foxx passes muster? I think, I do, I think he's like a real family man. And so I just hope, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:12 We have to put out who we wanna protect. Also, beat Shazam, like, Loki has so much in common with Jamie Foxx. Oh, beat Shazam. Also, Jamie Foxx really makes content for us. Yeah, no, we have a lot of similar interests. Not a lot of people would be in a show about the app Shazam. For me, that's my favorite app.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He's also, now that I think about it, really always maintained a level of family friendliness in all of his content, which I now appreciate realizing it. Yeah. So please, please don't send me any articles of him at a dinny party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I like googling him. I'm like Yeah, let me just make sure
Starting point is 00:58:48 Did you see those Ashton Kutcher pictures? No, I didn't that's really funny. Wait. Let me go. It was really lame like Could you like the way the hundred dollars was pointed? I should put your proves. He's a big tipper by slipping Oh, yeah, and then put it on the PR wire and sent it out to a bunch of different outlets Oh, wow. Who gives a hundred like, who tips like that with the whole bill flopping in the wind? That's the thing, most people, you scrunch it up
Starting point is 00:59:11 and you give it. Yeah, it's a subtle thing. But Jackie, there was a paparazzi. Oh my God, that is really funny. So I just feel like some bad stuff is coming out about Ashton Kutcher. Like I thought that was a preemptive strike. That is funny. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah. We're getting some more info about Netflix's big Christmas day football game. Football? Yes. Is it about their tech and their ability to withstand millions of people on their platform at once? No, it's about their on-air talent that they've tapped,
Starting point is 00:59:41 including comedians Nate Bargatze and Burt Kreischer. Oh, so they're copying prime what they did with Nikki Glaser. Yep. Netflix has drafted its on air talent roster for NFL Christmas Game Day, which will broadcast live from Pittsburgh, Houston and LA. Broadcasters will include father and son Ian and Noah Eagle, JJ Watt and brothers Devin and Jason McCourty, the McCourty brothers. The Kansas City Chiefs will face off against the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Lurd will be on Netflix. The Lurd will be, the Chiefs are playing. So Taylor will be on Netflix. Maybe they'll give us like a take cam. Hopefully we'll be able to see it. And the Baltimore Ravens will play against the Texans. Netflix is set to kick off their Christmas game day in studio
Starting point is 01:00:25 with a bunch of analysts, including... Jason Kelsey? Manti Teo. See, I feel like- Manti Teo getting the Netflix money, thank you. I feel like they're really limited in who they can bring on air because every major athlete talking head broadcaster
Starting point is 01:00:42 has an ironclad agreement with Fox, with ESPN. So like these are all people without contracts. And that doesn't leave, you know, the cream of the crop. Although JJ Watt like is like a full CBS something. So I don't know how he got in there. He must have like a loophole in his contract. I am turning on every TV in my house, putting it on mute and letting it streams to support Manti Tayo
Starting point is 01:01:00 having this job. To put money in Manti Tayo's pocket. Yeah, and I just, I need Netflix to know like, this is for Manti. This one's for Manti. This one's for Manti-Tayo having this job. To put money in Manti-Tayo's pocket. Yeah, and I just, I need Netflix to know like, this is for Manti, this one's for Manti. This one's for Manti. So then comedian Burt Kreischer and podcaster will join as a Tailgate correspondent and comedian Nate Bargaitzi joins as a special guest.
Starting point is 01:01:17 So it'll be a little funny too. Yeah, I mean, could they throw one girl in there? Like girls, especially with everyone watching for Taylor like give us something Like I'm not saying there's anything wrong with any of these people, but like they're not for me, you know Yeah, there are like some female Sports casters who will be there. Um, no, let me tell you what Because you're talking about Actually wasn't talking about I. No, no, no, no, no. I actually wasn't talking about it.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I don't want to wear Christmas. I'm over here being like, I want a woman. And let me tell you, during the Mike Tyson Netflix thing, I could not stop talking and texting and being like, why the hell is Rosie Perez? I actually still don't understand why Rosie Perez was one of the emcees on the Netflix, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Former host of The View, former actress, I guess she, Jake Paul fight. Like former, you know, host of the view, former actress, like I guess she really likes the fight. Like she's like, it's like an interest of hers, UFC or whatever. I thought it was so weird. Like I actually have not stopped thinking about it since. And actually I think we should protect our women by not putting them forward for this.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Cause like, I feel like for Burt Kreischer and Nate Barghese, like no one's gonna question why they're there and whether they do a good or bad job, it's not gonna be a referendum on them. But if there was like a woman who's not talking about sports, like literally her life would be ruined and like her- I know. And like we need to protect the women, do not go.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But a lot of people are tuning in for Beyonce. Right, she's the halftime performer at the Houston game. At the Ravens game. Houston versus Ravens, yes. So. I wonder who's performing for at the Houston game. Houston versus Ravens, yes. So I wonder who's performing for the Chiefs game. I feel like nobody if they haven't announced it. You don't think Lurde?
Starting point is 01:02:53 No, I don't. Although she does like definitely have like, no, she's a Disney girl. That's like her new contract. Like reputation was on Netflix, but then Lily Pond Studios and Eres were on Disney Plus and Hulu. I'm just saying like, if they need last minute talent,
Starting point is 01:03:08 like you do have a singer in the audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure she'd be more than happy to do an acoustic set. This will be fun, we'll be together. I like the idea of just like turning on Netflix for the day. If it works, like seriously, they have not answered us. They have dropped the ball. They have, I think four times now,
Starting point is 01:03:28 really invested in like a major live streamed event. Chris Rock special, which I don't think like broke the internet to the point where they had any issues. But then the Love is Blind reunion that they did live where everybody was tuning in, did not work for anybody. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, I couldn't watch. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, this is now the fourth and they absolutely have to get together. Half the people couldn't even watch Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, I couldn't watch. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, this is now the fourth and they absolutely have to get together.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Half the people couldn't even watch Mike Tyson. I could not watch. I also, I wasn't, once they said it, like I literally couldn't turn it back on and I wasn't like that mad because I was tired and the fight wasn't gonna be on forever. But like, even if I wanted to and I was mad, I could not watch.
Starting point is 01:04:01 So what is their plan for that? I would love to hear a press release on that. We've hired new engineers. We bought more cords. Towers. Like something. Yeah. Yeah, we bought more cords.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Like maybe they needed an extra charger. Did they, maybe we needed a system. Maybe they need to unplug it and plug it back in. Yeah, a quick, hard reset. I would have, I would like an update on that before I get all excited about seeing Beyonce and Taylor. Agreed. But I like where they're headed with this little comedy, little podcasting, little schmooze,
Starting point is 01:04:31 little Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's done well. And Christmas, you guys, the first night of Hanukkah is on Christmas, which never happens for us. Yes. Okay, wait, so yesterday- That means Hanukkah's going into January, but let's not talk about that.
Starting point is 01:04:41 It's weird. Jackie officially started Our Family Secret Santa. She took the initiative and did the Elfster, emailed everybody their people. Now me and Ben did not share. Did you and Zach share? No, because we got reamed out last year for sure. Last year?
Starting point is 01:04:55 He came in and he wanted to tell me who he got, and I was like, no. So without telling me, obviously, give me your reaction to who you got. I'm very excited. Even though there's no one that I would be dreading because I think we're all really fun and we know each other so well
Starting point is 01:05:09 and we can have so much fun with it, but I feel like the potential is limitless for what I can do. Okay, and this was my reaction to mine. I was like, hmm. Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean, but where do you think you'll be heading to shop?
Starting point is 01:05:25 Probably Amazon, if I had to guess. And Amazon is the sponsor of dear toasters. They they heard that everybody in the actual universe is talking about your toasters. And they said, we want to sponsor dear toasters. So this morning, it really hit us. There's only two weeks left to the start of Hanukkah and Christmas. And there's still so much left for us to do. It can really start to spiral, especially now I have this new responsibility
Starting point is 01:05:45 of Secret Santa for my person. What is the Jewish Secret Santa called? Mystery Maccabee. Hate! Okay, Secret Santa. I have a lot to do, and my Christmas plans are now firming up, and I'm getting a little bit nervous.
Starting point is 01:05:58 But then I remembered I'm an Amazon Swirly Prime member for life, and I can get everything that I need without leaving my bed. Now, of course you have a ton of options when it comes to shopping online, but especially in the holiday season with things being so delayed,
Starting point is 01:06:09 like shipping is a nightmare. The one thing you can count on in this world is death taxes and Amazon arriving on time, maybe even early. Maybe even early. So they have incredible holiday deals. So if you're looking for like big ticket items that you might not shop until they're on sale, like for me, like certain vacuum, certain hair tools,
Starting point is 01:06:30 I won't buy until they're on sale. And Amazon has great holiday deals across a wide selection of brands that you know and love. And some of them are at their lowest prices of the year. Plus if you have a prime membership, you're getting that unlimited free shipping, including millions of products with same day and on day delivery.
Starting point is 01:06:44 So there's no need to stress about last minute shopping. Let me tell you, I'm at Jackie's house and I ordered something on Amazon and it arrived that day. That's really crazy. Yeah. Now that's customer service. For even more savings, check out Amazon haul, which has fashion, home, lifestyle, and electronics. All at just $20 or less with the majority of items priced under $10. Some as low as just $1. Just make sure to order in time since Amazon Haul has typically delivery in one to two weeks. They also have been using AI and Amazon
Starting point is 01:07:10 as like a shopping assistant called Rufus, like very Gossip Girl coded. It's a real game changer for finding Hanukkah gifts. For any hearts shopped for family members, you just tap the Rufus icon, which looks like a little chat bubble with sparkles. It's in the navigation bar or at the bottom of the screen in the Amazon app, and it can help you discover
Starting point is 01:07:24 unique gifts tailored to your needs. Or if you're shopping for someone like Secrets Anna, someone that you like don't really know what to get, like put in, let AI do the legwork. Oh, like this person loves... I don't want to give away who I got, but this person... Loves dogs. Loves theater.
Starting point is 01:07:40 We all love... Theater. You know, like you can really get creative. Let AI work its AI magic with Rufus. And of course, like if you're shopping the deals, it's important to get things for yourself. Like I feel like I've recently, like while I'm shopping for people,
Starting point is 01:07:56 I've gotten a couple of things on Amazon that I have been waiting to get, like a Dyson vacuum. I got such a great deal on it. They had great Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and all throughout the rest of the year, they have amazing deals. So make sure to monitor that deals page because you shouldn't be paying full price like ever.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Also, when in doubt, get a Kindle. Oh, I mean the Amazon branded products, like their own Fire Stick, Kindle, they have the Echo. I have like the Alexa's, oh the Blink, yeah. It's premium and those Amazon products, they have the best deals during the holiday. So visit amazon.com slash holiday to start shopping today. That's amazon.com slash holiday.
Starting point is 01:08:32 All right, Jax, are you ready for our Deer Toasters, kind of the segment on everybody's lips? Yeah, I'm worried, I'm nervous and I'm anxious. Let's just rip off the bandaid. So Deer Toasters is our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our absolute best to help the swirlies in need. They write to us and we give back to the community.
Starting point is 01:08:47 It's our way of doing a little philanthropy weekly. And if you ever want to write in, send us an email, deartoasters.gmail.com, or you can also head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down a little bit. There's a submission box that's completely anonymous. Both ways are anonymous. We'll never blow your shit up. We're just here to help.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Okay? Mm-hmm. Turt and Jurt. I'm a long-time listener and first-time writer and have a very weird dilemma. I spent this Thanksgiving with my boyfriend's family for the first time ever. We've been together for six months and it's going really well.
Starting point is 01:09:14 But while we were saying what we're thankful for, he said he was thankful that I'm on Ozempic and I'm on my weight loss journey. I told him afterward that it made me uncomfortable, especially since this was my first time meeting his extended family and they don't need to know I'm on a GL it made me uncomfortable, especially since this was my first time meeting his extended family and they don't need to know I'm on a GLP-1 medication,
Starting point is 01:09:28 but he said I was overreacting because he meant it in a good way that I'm getting healthier. And if I'm ashamed of that, that it's my own problem. I've brought it up a few times since then and he will not apologize. Am I being crazy? What can I say to make him understand?
Starting point is 01:09:40 Oh my goodness, that is so bad. I didn't even think like about the fact that now they know you're on Ozempic, but it's like, that's what he's thankful for. Like he doesn't like love you as you are. And of course, you know, if you're getting more such as exciting, but like, that's what you're gonna say in front of your family as what you're thankful for.
Starting point is 01:09:57 To be honest, if you had said that about your own journey, albeit a little oversharing with new family, that's totally understandable. To be so excited about your partner's weight loss, like that's red flag central. Like I hate also, Ozempic is so personal. Most people don't share that they're on it. Not everybody's like me, like spreading their legs.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Like it's personal. I think for me, like I found it really embarrassing in the beginning. So I was like, I would rather die than admit that I'm on it. It's like, oh my God, stop eating. You have to take a shot every week. Like I felt so embarrassed so I was like, I would rather die than admit that I'm on it. It's like, oh my God, stop eating. You have to take a shot every week. I felt so embarrassed by it that like, if anybody, oh my God, this.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Like to me, that's like the second offense because the first one being like, you're literally saying you don't like me as I am. And you're saying it in front of other people, which is just more embarrassing. Now, like sometimes men really say the stupidest fucking things. And like, it isn't until like a lot
Starting point is 01:10:45 of conversation that they understand what they did was wrong. So like I do want to help you get to a path. If your relationship is like otherwise great, like I don't want to hit break up with your boyfriend. Cause you know, it's hard to find a good guy. It's so true. And this economy, like we can't be so picky. Like I try, I want to find a path for him to understand.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Like for it's a click for him and he's like, oh fuck I fucked up. It sounds like you've been telling him. Yeah. But why is it reson click for him and he's like, oh fuck, I fucked up. It sounds like you've been telling him, but why is it resonating for him? This is the craziest part is that when she confronted him, he said, if I'm ashamed of it, then that's my own problem. Like that's so mean. Yeah, no, it's not good.
Starting point is 01:11:21 We need to get him to understand. Like if someone at our Thanksgiving table, like when you're dating, if like someone's boyfriend had said this, like. Oh yeah, dating. Like now we're all like married, we make fun of each other and like our weight, everybody's on Ozempic.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Yeah, like I cook for Thanksgiving, nobody eats it. It's so, no, and it's like, it's funny now, but like the introductory thing. When we were dating, say like you were dating Ben and he said that, like, would I tell you to break up with him? Yeah. Especially the difference is that Ben is also on Ozempix.
Starting point is 01:11:47 We're in the same boat, but this guy's not. So he definitely feels like he's coming from a place of moral superiority and to blow up your spot, I'm sorry, I'm struggling not to press the button. No, here's what I'm gonna say. You need to, and this is what I'll say instead of ever pressing the button, you need to evaluate the rest of the relationship.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Like if it seriously is a perfect relationship, this is a dream man and this is what I'll say instead of ever pressing the button. You need to evaluate the rest of the relationship. If it seriously is a perfect relationship, this is a dream man and this is the thought, then we'll work to make him understand and work towards a path to forgiveness. But now you need to, is this the right relationship for you? Because this is a serious red flag. I just don't think it's possible for it to be a perfect relationship.
Starting point is 01:12:22 But say it was Ben who did it at our Thanksgiving table. You could see a person- Making a mistake. Saying something so stupid. But if I confronted Ben- But the rest of your relationship isn't worth throwing out the window for a bad moment. No, because if I confronted Ben
Starting point is 01:12:34 and said like something you said really embarrassed me, even if, and I feel like we've had a conversation like this before, and even if he disagreed with it, he would feel badly for making me feel embarrassed. It's true. So like, so there's so, this can't be a perfect relationship. One, cause yeah, everybody makes mistakes,
Starting point is 01:12:48 but his reaction afterwards makes me think that he doesn't see it as a mistake. And so you can't be a perfect partner, husband, father of your children. If you're happy to air your wife's sturdy laundry, girlfriend, embarrass her, be okay with it, and not hear her out when she speaks to you. Yeah, I think like a break to start.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Maybe a break will make him see. Yeah, hate your boyfriend, sorry. Yeah, but like you should be like that. Person that I wanna be with like would protect me, would never embarrass me. And even if they, people slip up and say the wrong things sometimes, but then when I come to you and tell you how I feel
Starting point is 01:13:22 that you would like still not apologize or attempt to understand how I feel, like that's not a partner. And I don't think this is the right relationship. Like maybe risk it all, but you better be willing to walk. It's so true, because if you're all talk, no action, you lose all your power. Oh, then the next time this happens, he'll say worse.
Starting point is 01:13:41 He's like, she didn't give a shit. Our next submission is our fault. And so we have to be extra helpful, okay? Hey, girly-swerly. You told someone to break up with their boyfriend? No, no, no. I've recently started dating this guy. It's been about three months, not official yet,
Starting point is 01:13:53 but everything so far has been really great and I really like him. Last night as he was leaving my apartment, we kissed and without thinking, I said, "'Love ya, bye.'" In Jackie's voice. I immediately followed up with, "'Oh, it's a toast reference.
Starting point is 01:14:04 "'You wouldn't get it.'" to which he responded, the toast. His Uber was here and he was rushing out, so we couldn't discuss it further, but now my head is spinning, wondering if he thinks I said love ya. Do I bring it up again to try and explain? Do I completely ignore it and hope it never comes up? Please help.
Starting point is 01:14:17 You have to listen to an episode of The Toast with him. Yeah, I'm glad that you addressed it in the moment, because now it's like if he does wanna go looking, like he could find. You're not lying. You're not lying. So I also, this is what I'm gonna do to help you. Like I feel like you need it in the moment, because now it's like if he does want to go looking, like he could find- You're not lying. You're not lying. So I also, this is what I'm going to do to help you. Like I feel like you need to have the toast playing
Starting point is 01:14:29 in the background so that he can hear that that's how we talk. And right now we're going to stage a clip for you to play so that he knows that this is how we talk. Okay. So we're just going to like use a lot of love you bye. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. Action. Claude, this has been such a fun episode with you.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I just absolutely- A blast. I love podcasting with you so much, but I have to bid you adieu. Oh. Love ya, bye. Love ya, bye. No, I love ya, bye.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Oh my God, nobody loves ya, bye more than me. Love ya, bye. The thing is, if you did say it with like a weird intonation in your voice, like you were clearly like, not rehearsing, what's the word I'm looking for? Like copying? Imitating, imitating.
Starting point is 01:15:14 You were clearly imitating some like reference. You're totally fine. Also, I don't think this man thinks you love him. Like you are like not even boyfriend and girlfriend. Like you're, it's not like you said it prematurely like five months in, like you're totally fine. Just play the podcast for him and you can either bring it up again
Starting point is 01:15:30 or like I think the more natural sort of like very subtle playing the podcast is the best move. Yeah, maybe he hears you on the phone to a girlfriend, like love ya, bye. Like it's just like, it's just what we say. Oh, you have to start saying it to your dear man, to the mailman, to the waiter, everyone, the teacher, everyone.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah, yeah, I think it's fine. Don't like mention, don't address it. Just keep on with your relationship. Saying it to everyone. And then also do this work in the background. Yes, yes, but you have to put in the work now. Yeah, it's time to work. And we're sorry, and we're sorry.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Sorry, everything we say is so catchy. And filled with love. Sorry, or you could actually just play him this submission. It's so quiet. Because we are corroborating your story. It's so early in the relationship. For her to be writing into her favorite podcast about him. And for us to be being honest.
Starting point is 01:16:16 Don't you find? Yeah, it's definitely, yes, but it's good to be honest when you truly have nothing to hide. I know, but like, you're still like, holding your cards to your chest. Like, we're still playing the game here. Lay on, my friend. Are you ready for our third and final two-chessers?
Starting point is 01:16:34 One day when you're married with children, you can play this episode for him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, when you guys are on your deathbeds. I'm ready for the third. Hey, Jackson Claude, I desperately need your advice about something disturbing I found on my husband's laptop. To be clear, I was not snooping. I was on his laptop filling out insurance forms.
Starting point is 01:16:51 I left my computer at work. When I started the forms, I just wanted to copy and paste a picture, so I hit Control C to copy. And then when I hit paste, I did not properly copy my picture because instead it pasted some text that I did not write and that I assumed was written by my husband the last time I used the laptop. The text that appeared before my very eyes was quote,
Starting point is 01:17:08 "'Angry pegging.'" Do you know what that is, Jack? It's pegging. Yeah, like with an inanimate object? Yeah, inanimate, yeah. I've seen the bold type. It's actually, it's an adamant object. Inadamant.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I thought inanimate is like invisible. Inadamant is like inanimate is like invisible. Inadimate is like fake. Well, no. Inadimate. No. Object. Is a thing that is not alive, such as a chair, a book, or a rock.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Oh, I guess, yeah, inanimate object, yeah, okay. At first I laughed it off to myself, thinking it was some silly random words, but then the wheels started turning. He must have been searching for this phrase while watching porn. Now I'm not a prude, but this is kind of ick, right? I mean I had no idea that he was even into that sort of thing. We have never done butt stuff other than a light touch.
Starting point is 01:17:54 And the angry? The visuals are really disturbing me. I'm completely kerfuffled. What makes me even more disturbed is that now I'm thinking about our sex life. It's been very vanilla the last year, and so to be honest, he doesn't finish like 25% of the time. Is this all related? Is it because our sex is not intense enough been very vanilla the last year, and so to be honest, he doesn't finish like 25% of the time. Is this all related? Is it because our sex is not intense enough for him?
Starting point is 01:18:08 Do I say something? Do I ignore it forever? How do I have sex with this man ever again without him thinking of the phrase, angry pegging? Okay, well I didn't even think that he's like copy and pasting it into porn sites, because it's like not that much to type. Yeah, no, that's the only flaw in this story.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Why would you have that copy? Like are you that lazy? Lazy, maybe. Maybe, but I think that you could have like a bit of a state of the union about your sex life. Like don't mention the angry pegging, but just be like we've been together. I don't know if she said how long that's her husband.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yes, it was her husband, but she doesn't say how long they've been together. Just find a way to, or you could do it without a conversation. Some people don't like to talk about these things, which I get too, but you can't just like bring something new into the bedroom. Cause then it's like, where have you been?
Starting point is 01:18:49 Who are you sleeping with? Yeah. Jackie's right though. Like I feel like in a marriage, like it's okay to have like a referendum on sex life. Like it can get boring. Like we get busy. So being like, I feel like we've lost a little bit of our spice.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Like what should we do? Like give it, put the ball in his court. See if he brings it up. Yeah. But like do it in like a non, like attacking, just like in a, like, and not judgmental. This is we're here to have fun sort of way. Yeah, I understand why your tone in this,
Starting point is 01:19:13 dear toasters, was like a little, you know, questionable, but it's important that you go into the conversation, like totally open and accepting. Cause like, if somebody opens up about like a sexual fantasy and you're being like, ew, icky, that's gross. Like you are going to shame them into like, into hiding for they, that's gross. You are gonna shame them into hiding for the rest of their lives. It's actually very triggering.
Starting point is 01:19:28 It's called kink shaming, I believe. So if you're gonna have this conversation, you have to be open to him maybe bringing this up. If you're not open to ever doing this with your husband, don't ask. Don't ask questions you don't want answers to. Because he's gonna bring it up, you're gonna say no, and then it's like we're at a standstill
Starting point is 01:19:43 where he feels embarrassed, You feel grossed out. Like, so if you're open to, if you're open to exploring, have the conversation. If you're not, then you have a piece of information that you can do nothing with. But there also are like ways to spice it up
Starting point is 01:19:55 without it having to be angry pegging. Like maybe like that's just like what he wants to watch, but like there are things you could do along the way. It's, it's, it's a destination. It's not the journey. There's a journey to angry pegging. Yeah. The yellow brick road, if you will.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Right, so I feel like, yeah, we could talk about some inanimate things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go shopping. Or we could do it for the privacy of our own home. Yeah. Amazon. Amazon. They have everything.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Amazon holiday gift under the tree. No, they do. Oh, well, you also could do that. Just surprise him. Be like, listen, I read your mind. I read your mind. No, cause what if it was like a friend? Or what if-
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah, well, they're also, that's why you have to handle this because there is a very small percentage of like he lent the laptop to someone, you know? Or it's just like not what you think. Like maybe he copied that phrase from somewhere cause he's like thought it was fun. Like just- No, no, maybe he was like reading it on something and didn't know what you think. Like maybe he copied that phrase from somewhere because he like thought it was fun. Like just- No, no, maybe he was like reading it on something
Starting point is 01:20:47 and didn't know what it meant. So we copied it and Googled it. Literally. So there's always that. But you did say the 25% of the time that it's not, you know, a success. So there's room for combo or a little bit of zhuzhing here. A thousand percent, a thousand percent.
Starting point is 01:21:02 So have an open and honest conversation if you are open. If you are open. That's a huge part here. A thousand percent, a thousand percent. So have an open and honest conversation if you are open. If you are open. That's a huge part here. But there's a lot, you know, it's a spectrum. So of course, of course you get to get started. You can start small. Maybe you'll like it so much, you know, maybe you become like the angriest pegger there ever was.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I would really like to thank everybody for writing into us today and all days for being open and honest and vulnerable with us. Hopefully I actually think we provided really helpful advice this week. Some weeks we just like laugh and don't give the best advice. I tell you that you're wrong. Right. And that you need to be out of control and like you need to look in the mirror. We left the girls in a really good spot today.
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