The Toast - Defying Gravity: Monday, November 25th, 2024

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, that dead ass feels like a Wednesday because the week is so short. We have so much to fucking talk about. Hey, Jax, how you during? During good, we have so much to talk about. I was like working all night last night, you know,

watching Wicked. So it doesn't feel like a Monday. I worked all night. I saw it late because we went after the kids went out and like, I didn't get home until midnight. It was crazy. That's so crazy of you. I was thinking, she's such a good mom. Just miss bedtime one time.

Just go to the movies at 4 o'clock. I went at 5. It was perfect. We got home at 8, 30. I went to bed at 9. It was perfect. No, seriously, I got home at 11, 45. That's so stupid.

No, I didn't think that. I don't know what I would have done differently. I wouldn't have like left my children to go sit at the movies. Like even sitting there and they're sleeping. I'm like, now I remember why I never want to go to the movies. Like this experience is not for someone with young children, like least of all me.

But the movie, I had to see the movie. So I did what needed to be done. This is all Jackie. I wasn't supposed to see the movie. I bought tickets intentionally for Thanksgiving weekend. I thought it would be such a nice way to spend the Thanksgiving weekend. Everybody's out of the city.

There were tons of tickets. And then Jackie sprung on me on Saturday. She's like, hey, I think I'm gonna see Wicked tomorrow night. Like if you could see it too, so we can recap it together. And by the way, trying to get tickets to Wicked in Manhattan is like trying to get tickets to Hamilton. Like it was insane. I went to the most random theater at like this random time

and the theater we booked had three rows. And I was like, where are we going to someone's living room? Like, it was so scary. We were like so afraid up until the moment we walked in. It was totally fine. It was just like a really small theater. And we are going to do a big official Wicked Recap. It's going to be our first story.

If you're looking to avoid spoilers, check the timestamps in the description of this episode. There will be a full timestamp for like anything you could possibly spoil. So that's the first story. We won't get into episode. There will be a full timestamp for like anything you could possibly spoil. So that's the first story. We won't get into it. It'll be hard not to. It's also gonna be so hard not to sing

because I was so well-behaved at the theater last night. I can't stop singing all morning. And though I'd never show it, I'd be so happy I could melt. And I actually feel, and I promise we won't dive into the whole thing right now. I just wanna start off today's episode by like actually apologizing to Cynthia and Ariana.

Because my ass was in the theater holding a shit ton of space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity. And I actually think my husband was also holding space for it too. Interesting. I feel as though they've been acting so crazy on this press tour and I fully understand why.

And given the performances that they delivered, they are allowed to act however they want. If I'm that talented, yeah, I'm also crazy on this press tour. And like, I fully understand why. And given the performances that they delivered, like they are allowed to act however they want. Like if I'm that talented, yeah, I'm also crazy, okay? Yeah, well, that's the thing. Like with that level of talent, you have to be crazy. Like you're not also, like Elan said, I'm not also gonna be like a cool normal dude. Right.

But it's also kind of an oxymoron to have to hold space for defying gravity when like, if you're defying gravity, it doesn't need to be held. You're talking about it from like a scientific standpoint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, it's actually funny. Now let's try for the next like five minutes

not to talk about Wiggin, cause we'll talk about it. I'll try and remember what else I did this weekend. Well, I really did not do much except that I watched the parent trap. I remember what I did this weekend. And I want to talk about the parent trap. I mean, we literally talked about it two weeks ago

on Toast-A-Ween, we did the whole episode dedicated to it. Yeah, and I rewatched it on Saturday night because Ben and I just like couldn't decide on something and we ended up just watching it and like loving it. I obviously, I know I'm like highly emotional. I cried so many times during Wicked and I'm just, I'm crying, like that's what I do. But I feel as though like don't write off my tears

that I'm about to describe as just like pregnancy hormones. Cause like I actually, the scene in the, first of all, the concept of the parent travel, we've talked about this, like splitting up those kids, neglect, it's three identical strangers made into like a fictional romanticized film. It's terrible what they did to those girls. But the scene where like the American girlie goes to London,

comes home from camp and is like in the house for the first time looking for her mom. And she like runs up the stairs into her mother's arms. Like I was literally sobbing. It's so sad. It's not cute. It's devastating. Yeah. It's child abuse, neglect.

I was shocked. Like, yeah. It's not just like she got, she got like pulled the wool over her eyes. She convinced her she's Annie. It's like, this is your long lost mother. It was absolutely devastating. And she's like trying to connect with her mother whilst pretending to long lost mother. It was absolutely devastating. And she's like, tried to connect with her mother

whilst pretending to be someone else. It was truly- It's a lot for a young child. It is a lot for a pregnant person, seriously, to watch. I was having a lot of complex emotions. Obviously the nostalgia of the film. And I will, oh, you know why I watch it? Cause Lindsay Lohan's been doing like a big press tour for-

Her new Netflix holiday movie. Yeah, I was like, what is she even doing press for? And she went kind of viral for talking about Parent Trap on Watch What Happens Live. And I watched that Yeah, I was like, what is she even doing press for? And she went kind of viral for talking about Parent Trap on Watch What Happens Live. And I watched that clip and she was like, looking so good, I'm having like a Lindsay Renaissance. I just found her on Instagram a couple of months ago because she's looking so gorgeous.

And then I was like, you know what? I'll watch Parent Trap. And I really wish that I didn't. Lindsay Lohan, like everyone is talking about her. I watched her whole episode of Watch What Happens Live because I thought it was so cute that she did it with Lacey, Gretchen Wieners. That was by the way, that's why I watched your whole episode of Watch What Happens Live because I thought it was so cute that she did it with Lacey, Gretchen Weeners. Plus they were both-

That's why Watch What Happens Live is really always supreme. They do shit like that. But they were also both promoting Netflix holiday movies. So it worked on Netflix's part. And it was such a cute episode. They're both doing so well. But of course, Lindsay, who at one point was very unwell,

it looks better than ever. So clear, like so funny. Just the Lindsay that we always knew. And it's crazy that she's just like back. And this is how we all like wished that she was gonna grow up to be. And there's actually a big conversation on TikTok happening now about Lindsay Lohan

and Christina Aguilera. I don't know if you've seen. About their faces. Yeah, there are two women who I think like went to a little bit of extremes when it came to like filler and Botox and plastic surgery over the course of their like young adult lives and now have really reined it in and they're everyone's trying to figure out who this doctor is who's clearly like working with women in Hollywood like Christine Aguilera

and and like Lizzie Lohan who have not only pulled back so much of the plastic surgery but look amazing for their age. Right, but no, I don't think it's that they've pulled back the plastic surgery. I think it's just they've done something else that's better. No, no, sorry. They've pulled back the look of like, you know, being really plastic surgery looking like puffy. Yeah, but I think they did something.

Oh, obviously. Like some people are saying it's like, oh, they stopped the filler. No, like I don't know face transplants, what? They look amazing. You guys have until I give birth to figure out who that doctor is and get me an appointment. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They look really great. Not a lot of movement, but who needs movement? I was singing this morning, my face was moving so much. It's like, stop it. You know who needs movement actually? Actors. I don't know, Lindsay's such a great actor.

I didn't watch her new movie, but like you forget, like she is an amazing actress. And we always say like, there's no such thing as a good actress, like everyone's a liar. Anyone can do it. No, there are actually some people who give them any role, they will be good in it. I mean, and honestly, the parent trap

is really evident of her talent. She was so young playing two different girls, two different accents, two different roles. She carried that whole fucking film on her back. Talking to herself. Yeah, actually talking to nobody at most of the film. Like it's actually beyond impressive. You're right, she is like at the film, like it's actually beyond impressive. You're right.

She is like at the core, like a very skilled actress. Yeah. Also, she reminds me a lot about Amanda Bynes and I feel like that feeling that we have about Amanda Bynes, which it's like, I would love to see her in something today. Like she was so, she's so funny. She's such a good, and like she just is lost.

It's a perfect comparison. It's like, imagine if Amanda Bynes like just got it together and was like back to work and looking great and feeling great and sounding great. Like that's how this feels. That's such a great comparison. And we need to get Amanda Bynes on the Lindsay Lohan Expressway.

Yeah. Yeah, because she's like the talent of our generation. She is the comedic talent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what'd you do this weekend besides Wicked at Midnight? Besides Wicked at Midnight, Dana was here this weekend and she was really only here for 24 hours and we had the best day ever. She brought her baby here

because she was in town for her wedding so she stayed over the following night and it was just amazing. Like friendship evolving, maturing, children meeting. We had seriously the best, most wholesome time. Tell me about the meeting of the minds, the wire-up children meeting the Webman children child. The Webman child, they loved him.

I mean, Reed is not old enough to like, I couldn't say if Reed loved him, but like he wasn't screaming at them, but they couldn't get enough of him. They just wanted to watch him change his diaper, like just everything he was doing, they were just like watching him. And tell me about like Dana as a mom.

I was with her like a couple of weekends ago and she was like holding a baby and I was seriously like, I couldn't get over it because she is a child. Yeah. She packs for him in a backpack. Like Claudia, I posted this to my story, but I feel like people, I meant to follow up because I feel like where people were probably like,

oh, well, Josh probably had a suitcase. Yeah. Josh had a backpack. I didn't get him. Josh had a well, Josh probably had a suitcase. Like, Josh had a backpack. I didn't get him. Josh had a backpack, Dana had her Jansport and her baby had a backpack. And that is how they traveled for the weekend. Like, where do they keep the bottles?

Let me tell you something. This really, I think reflects to a conversation we were having last week about how the, a lot of the anxiety I had about like child rearing is so much of the clutter and so much of the like shit and consumerism. And honestly, the Dana Webman like route of motherhood, listen, I get like I-

The Dana Webman minimalist route. I actually understand it and I hope to be like her, honestly, if I could just throw everything into three backpacks for a weekend trip with my family and I'm going to a wedding, Jackie, that's beautiful. It's so crazy to me. Like when I travel with just one baby, like my carry-on would be bigger than their backpack.

That's insane. Like just of what to bring on the plane, let alone my suitcase. She's a marvel. I know, but I just, I also like stuff. I like having options. I like a couple of cozy blankies. Of course, options.

Plus like I also have, I told her, don't bring anything. Like I could be clothes, I could be carry-on, I. Plus like I also, I told her don't bring anything. Like I could be clothes, I could be carry, I could be a stroller, I'll give you changing table. Like don't bring a thing. Yeah, that's so nice. It was really, really nice. That was definitely a highlight of the weekend. Oh, I also like sort of entered my nesting era very briefly

and I sent you a link. I actually like called and texted you like 55 times yesterday and you were just kind of done with me. Like you were like posting on Instagram and writing in the family chat. And every time I tried to solo, are you mad at me or something? Like every time I tried to solo communicate with you,

I was brutally rebuffed. So I posted one thing of my siate pizzas on Instagram. People thought I was making seven pizzas. So that made me chuckle. And I also responded to that story. You didn't respond to me back. Because like texting you or calling you back, like it's just like a wormhole

where that requires me to, in a good way, like then I'm on my phone for a while, like I'm talking to you on the phone, but I'm like with my kids and I just don't wanna be on my phone. So yes, I could shoot off a text. So I'm a burden. I could shoot off a text to reply to the chat.

I could, you know, post something to Instagram, but like I wanna, when I talk to you, like I'm fat. And I Instagram, but when I talk to you, I'm fat. And usually, I would call you back in the evening, but I saw wicked. I've actually been largely ignored by you and your family all week. I texted you and your husband separately together, asking the boys to call me.

What the hell is going on? You guys are obviously mad at me as a family. We're not, I mean, Saturday, I was with Dana and we were, when we're doing stuff, unless I'm sitting on the couch like bored with the boys, like it's not a great time to call you and I don't wanna be like talking to you while playing with them, that's like distracted.

So I just like to talk to you when I'm on my own, but I was with them all day long. I'm just saying it has been noted, like the lack of communication. I'm so sorry, but you were trying to get ahold of me. What can I do you for? Well, I wanted to show you these new tings I got at Bloomingdale's.

I bought so much new stuff. Me and Ben started, Ben the other day was like, we need to clean out the kitchen. I said, what did you say? And I agree. Like I have always been maintaining the kitchen and I've just sort of given up these last couple of weeks, months.

I'm tired, I'm lazy. And like every time I do something, he undoes it, so whatever. But I guess I didn't, you know, maintain for a couple of weeks and now he's feeling like it's a little cluttered. And so he, we cleaned out like two big cabinets, we're gonna go cabinet by cabinet, each cabinet is like a monstrosity.

And when he, you know, did such a good job getting rid of so many things that we went to Bloomin' Hells, we bought new things, he needed a couple of new pans. We needed, oh, I got some, I'm really like such a woman now, those like air sucking containers that you put like flour in. You know, like you push the button. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Oxo ones. Oxo, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And what else did I get? Oh, oh, and this is what I texted you, a link. I saw this fabulous collection of Judaica. Oh, I saw that you sent me that and I didn't- I bought a challah plate, Shabbat candles, a new menorah, a knife, all a part of this very like Dolce Vita Judaica collection. Were you sending it to me because it's of the Elk

of dinnerware that we like, but it's Judaica? Yeah, and it was reasonably priced. So if you're in the market for Judaica, I was just like spreading the wealth. You wouldn't know that because you didn't respond. Yeah, well, I haven't been in a place to chat like until right now. Well, that's good because we have so much to catch up on.

And I do feel as though I'm so happy I could melt if we don't start talking about Wicked. Okay, so should we get into it? Is there any other odds and ends to wrap up? I don't think so. No, I like slept eight and spent money all weekend. Like that's literally all I did. Oh, I did drop some coin yesterday at the mall.

I went to the mall on Friday and it was literally the most unsuccessful like thing ever. It was just, I couldn't find what I wanted. I tried on an outfit, it was cute. I was like, but no, it's expensive. So I left, I just bought like 12 lipsticks at Macy's. I was like, I couldn't find what I wanted. I tried on an outfit, it was cute. I was like, but no, it's expensive. So I left, I just bought like 12 lipsticks at Macy's. I was like, forget it. Not 12.

12, because they sell Kylie Cosmetics. Then all weekend I was thinking about that outfit I tried on. I was like, I really need it. I'm going to Dallas. I have like a big day in Dallas, like doing some work stuff. So we went back to the mall yesterday and I just walked in and I'm like, give me the skirt, give me the sweater, give me the, order the tights.

I'll take the set. Yep, we'll take it all. I want the Gucci sunglasses and I just walked in and I'm like, give me the skirt, give me the sweater, give me the order the tights. And it's like, yep, we'll take it all. I want the Gucci sunglasses. I just, I went nuts. She went nuts. So I tried to conserve. I'm proud of, I'm actually proud of you. Yeah. Shout out to Simkai. No, shout out to Simkai, charge you things.

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the story of Wicked, so the spoilers won't really be in like us talking about the storyline, but just like if you want to see what your own original thoughts would be before hearing ours and not let us influence the way that you see the movie, skip to story two, check the timestamps, but the news is that Wicked has soared past the Gladiator 2 at the box office,

earning the best opening ever for a Broadway film adaptation. People are really trying to make it the Gladiator 2 at the box office, earning the best opening ever for a Broadway film adaptation. People are really trying to make it like Gladiator and Wicked coming out on the same weekend as like a Barbenheimer. No, nobody's seen Gladiator and I heard it was horrible. By the way, it looks good, Gladiator. I love that Paul Mezcal. I just love that boy.

I think maybe I've seen the first Gladiator pieces of it. So I'm not like a Gladiator swirly, but I would see that boy. I think maybe I've seen the first gladiator pieces of it. So I'm not like a gladiator swirly, but I would see this one. It's like historical fiction. Is it? Yes, the Roman Empire. Like I know nothing. And like, I actually don't care.

By the way, like I liked the energy for Glick It, except I think the thing is it's like, it's unwarranted. Men want to see Wicked too. I think with the Barbie movie, it was like the boys will see Oppenheimer, the girls will see Barbie, but like the guys want to see Wicked too. think with the Barbie movie, it was like the boys will see Appentime or the girls will see Barbie, but like the guys want to see wicked too.

Ben, okay, first of all, I saw his video. Ben absolutely loved it. And Ben, I didn't know he was like on our way. He's like, I didn't want to tell you this until we were almost there. I've never seen the Broadway show, which is crazy because Ben grew up in the city

and Ben's mom loves like growing up. Claudia, that's crazy. It was so crazy. I was so shocked. He was like, it doesn't have anything to do with the Wizard of Oz. It was really crazy. So I just kind of had to-

So his experience was like seeing the Broadway show for the first time. So fresh and he was speechless. Like we both at the very, like when it ended, we just like, we were like, we couldn't speak. We were genuinely speechless. Ben did not stop talking about it all the entire ride home, the entire night after playing all the music.

Like it's, Wicked is for everyone. Yeah, Wicked is for everyone. So Cynthia, Ariana, time to recap. Overall thoughts, like it was amazing. It was incredibly done, like done to perfection. Like a feast for the eyes. Yeah. You know, the sets, everything,

it was just like so beautiful. And then they chose like seriously the most talented people. And the storyline is all, there's a reason why it is like the most popular show on Broadway. Like the fact that it's like Elf of Wicked Witch of the West,

villain origin story. But like the story that they've added to it, like with Chiz and the friendship, like it's just an amazing story that ties back to the Wizard of Oz. And Zach was then telling me all of the ways that it ties, cause he's like telling me all this stuff about Wizard of Oz.

Like, I don't know if this is a spoiler for like part two, but I don't think there are spoilers at this point, but this was that he's- I think it is. I know what you're going to say. And I think it is that Dorothy is like in it. She's in, no, that's not what I was gonna say. No, as I say, like, do you know that Bach is the scarecrow?

Yeah, of course. And Fiero is the lion. The Tin Man. And then the lion he said is the bear cub they released in the woods. Well, they did nod to the Wizard of Oz a couple of times. Like that opening sequence when then it said Wicked, part one, that was very coded.

And then the little lion cub peeking his head out of the basket. That was like Toto in Wizard of Oz. I loved how much they like really subtly nodded to the original. It was beautiful. It made me realize I know nothing about the Wizard of Oz.

Cause then Zach was like, oh, and so the sister's the one who has the house fall on her. That fucking sister. Is that right? He knows all the stuff. Yeah, no, he's right. That sister, first of all, okay, let's just talk.

Okay, I wanna break it down like person by person because to me, I had the biggest impact on me from the film was Ari. We've always known she can sing and we've seen her act in like kid stuff. We know she can't not act, but I was not prepared to be as blown away by her as I was. I mean, there's Oscar buzz, like it's all warranted.

To me, she completely stole the show. And Glinda like, is, I mean, Ari gets is getting nominated as supporting actress. Like it's not a two. I actually think she's, in this movie, she was kind of more the main character. Agreed. She opens the movie, she's in the closing scene.

Seeing the only song, the only big song she doesn't sing on is like The Wizard and I. And I thought she was just as main, or if anything like 50-50. So that's surprising that she's a supporting character. Maybe they didn't wanna compete against each other. Yeah, we always knew she could sing. And also the thing about Ari's voice

is not only can she sing, but she can imitate anyone's voice. She doesn't unfalun all the time. So she could have literally copy and pasted Kristin Chenoweth. And it wasn't even about that. The thing about Ari's voice is not only can she sing, but she can imitate anyone's voice. She does an unfallen all the time. So she could have literally copy and pasted Kristin Chenoweth's, and it wasn't even about that. It was like when there was a cast ensemble, like dancing, dancing.

I'm only looking at Arianna. They spent all these money on extras, like didn't need it. Literally could not take my eyes off of her. Agreed, she radiated. She was supreme, like funny. She made me cry so many times. Like when they, that scene at the Oz desk

where they like finally lay down their arms, like I was literally sobbing. I think everyone's like, not okay. When she gets on the train, Elphaba, like before Glinda goes on and they just like say goodbye to each other. And then she writes that note, like, I hope you get out. Like I was sobbing, like Ari has, she's so sweet.

And I actually think that's who she really, really is. So like that part was so genuine. She just kept making me cry. Like, and then when she wouldn't get on the broomstick, like, like I understood her in that moment. Like she was brilliant. Like she completely stole the show. Her singing was amazing,

but I was so blown away by how funny she was, how genuine she was. Like she really was as an actress. I can't remember a time where I saw better acting, honestly, it was supreme. Well, also being like very theatrical. Yes, yes. And then it wasn't until like,

maybe it was when it popular came on that then she started to remind me of Kristin Chen within the world. And I was reminded like of how quirky she was. And then when the two of them came out, Idina and Kristin, I'm reminded, like seriously, how fucking crazy is Kristin Chen with this? Did you know that they were in the movie?

No, I saw that someone said, Margot Ostrich, not someone. She was like, did anyone know like the people that are in it? And then I saw someone say there are spoilers on the album. So I was like, who could possibly be in it that like would make sense? I was like, I thought for a second then, but I didn't think that would be such a big deal. I thought it was like a really cute nod to the original,

but it didn't like knock me out of my seat. Well, I read a spoiler on Twitter and I was so annoyed because I wanted to know like what my genuine reaction would have been. Ben was, Ben, even though he's never seen Wicked, like knew what they were to the film. I was just like, aw yeah. It was so sweet.

I'm glad that they were in it because they really. Put it on the map. A thousand percent. And I loved that they were in it because they really- Put it on the map. A thousand percent. And I loved that they were in it. I loved that they're all like seemingly friends. I thought it was really well done within the context. Even though that scene was like the play within the Emerald City was like kind of

my least favorite part. I was really glad that they were in it. Yeah. And by then I'm like, it's getting late, you know. Yeah. I was gonna go home. And then I want to talk about Cynthia because I like actually go home. And then I wanna talk about Cynthia because I like actually had chills. The Wizard and I was so spectacular and very similarly to like Ariana and Kristin Chenoweth,

it's really hard not to compare to the original songs. And I thought that so many instances, especially in the Wizard and I and Defying Gravity, Cynthia put like her own little spin on certain riffs, little nose changes, and I thought it was so well done. I mean, we knew her voice like was whatever, but I was really shocked, especially because she's saying in an accent,

she's British and Ben was shocked to find out that she was British. She did an amazing accent. I forgot that she was. I was, and I feel like Elphaba, like you slowly fall in love with her throughout the film because she's definitely like a phobiscina punum. And then she has, she has this chip on her shoulder and I feel like Elphaba, like you slowly fall in love with her throughout the film. Cause she's definitely like a phobis in a punum. And then she has, she has this chip on her shoulder

and I totally get it. But she's just like kind of this dark cloud. And then you really start to understand her and learn her. I feel like you love Glinda from the very second. And then like the longer the movie goes on, you see like Glinda's kind of flawed and she's not strong. She's not strong and she's not like this moral compass. And with Elphaba, like, I feel like it's a slow roll.

And then by the end, you totally love her and you totally get her. And I was so moved by Elphaba. That scene at the Azdes where she's crying, there's a couple of scenes where Elphaba is crying. And the acting was just supreme. I was so, I was moved. I was touched.

I was everything, every word, every emotion. Yeah, I thought Cyndia, really, she made Elphaba adorable. That's really the way I felt. She was just so cute. Pretty. And also, Elphaba, she's literally the wicked witch of the West. She's this big bitch on campus.

And Cyndia just made her just a girl. I want to fit in too. I want to look pretty. I want to go to the dance. I like this boy. She just made her adorable. I also loved, I don't know how I wanna go to the dance. I like this boy. She just made her adorable. I also loved, I don't know how I'd never even put it together that, yes, her skin is green,

but Cynthia being black, it actually, I think, added a layer of depth to the film. She's being made fun of for her skin. And yeah, whose skin is green? Nobody. I actually think, and I don't think any of the leading ladies on Broadway have ever been black. So I think it added another layer of depth

to the whole film that was brilliant. And those kids at Shiz were such fucking losers, pissing me off like Bowen Yang. He was great, but like his character was such a fucking loser. But I think it's such a great social commentary on how like the public, like everybody just thinks what everybody else thinks.

Everybody's a follower. And to be an original and to be different like is so unique and so hard. And the way everybody just thought what Glinda thought, like I loved it, but those kids were pissing me off. And the way they're being so dramatic, like about, isn't this a school of, and I was confused. Is everybody at this school like a magician?

Like no, nobody has powers by the way, nobody in the realm has- But they know about powers, right? Yeah, they live in like a magical land, but most of them are powerless. So what's the big deal? Which about that her skin is green. Her skin being green.

I don't know. I thought they were overreacting. Small minded munchkins they are. Like munchkins so small minded. There were a couple like distracting things about the movie that I was very aware that like this is a movie. Vox.

Vox. Claudia. Claudia, and I just want to say like this is a movie. Fuck. Claudia. Claudia, and I just want to say, like, I thought Jonathan Bailey was amazing. Like I actually wouldn't change. Dancing Through Life was a little too Backstreet Boys. I like the original. Oh, my God. I completely disagree. I loved it. But like it was the most changed song I thought.

OK, well, Dancing Through Life, I had a Be Our Guest moment. Oh, do you know what I mean? That was like I remember growing growing up on my iTunes, of all the Wicked songs, that was my number one most played. That's my favorite one. That's why I think you should wear this hat to the party tonight. It really resonates with me.

And they took that out. I don't even wanna go there. Disgraceful. Also say, Jonathan Bailey was amazing. However, it's just so crazy. It was like, Bach was seriously the only straight guy on set and Ari fell in love with him. And it's like, imagine if Fiyero like had been a guy

that maybe Ari could have fallen in love with. I mean, I absolutely fell in love with Jonathan Bailey. I think he is so handsome. I think he is so talented. And I was absolutely dazzled by his dancing through life sequence. So when I saw Beauty and the Beast, I tried to, I saw it in theaters

and the Beauty and the Beast remake. I was so- Yeah, the live action. I was so dazzled by it. And I remember when I got home, I was trying to explain to you guys how insane it was. And especially during the Be Our Guest sequence, which was just so big and bright and colorful. My face, I don't even know what my face looked like,

but I know I just looked like an absolute freak, like with my mouth smile, like eyes wide. And I had that with Dancing Through Life. I thought he was incredible. I loved the library sequence with like the turning. And yes, I agree that Bach was a distraction and that the song was different. I'm not as familiar with the original song,

so I'm not like as connected to it or like protective over it. I absolutely love that sequence. I loved it. It was just the song that was probably the most changed. Different. Yeah, it just had more of like a poppy, Shawn Mendes feel. Oh, wow.

But he was so- He was amazing. He was amazing. Like he was such a good actor and like he was funny and he sings amazing and he danced amazing. I'm just saying like if the actor were like a straight man, like maybe Ari would have fallen in love with him and like not, it's a fun problem. I also felt as though Bach's character- But he was quite, yeah, Bach was a literal munchkin and Ari's like fallen in love with him and like not SpongeBob. I also felt as though Bach's character.

Bach was a literal munchkin and Ari's like falling in love with him. That's my man. She said, that's my man. Like I found his character also to be so unnecessary. Like. Well, I mean, they needed characters. Also, I do think that like later on,

the betrayal of like Bach and Nessa will be a bit of something. Nessa was seriously, give, I don't, name a worst sister in history. Like everyone's so mean to Alphaba and all Nessa is like, please stop embarrassing. And literally they grow up with their abusive dad only to Alphaba.

Like you never stand up for your sister. She's just awful. And she's like so afraid of being like embarrassed to the point where it's like, you're actually embarrassing me now. I fucking hated her. Yeah, also like I didn't understand. So why Elphaba is green.

Her mom was sleeping with someone who was like drinking green juice. Jackie. What? Do you want me to spoil it? Well, then Zach said her mom was sleeping with the wizard. Yeah. But the wizard has no powers.

The wizard is her dad. That's what Zach was saying. I was like, oh, okay, I miss that. And then he was like, you didn't hear in the song. He's literally like saying, I'm your dad. I'm like, I don't know. And that green drink. Okay, but like-

He was sipping on that perp. He was sipping on that green. But that, like he doesn't have powers. So like the powers just came from the elixir, the green juice, the elixir. I don't know. I'm like, I'm not. And then all of a sudden she can read that like ancient scribe because she's special.

He's sipping on that green, but it's chemical. It's chemical. It's unimaginable. That's all I'm saying. I guess we'll learn more about her chemical makeup. So you knew like, when do we find out that the wizard is her dad? I think in part two, we find out like. Literally they need a new trope

like Darth Vader I'm your father. Like it's always the daddy. I am trying to like criticize the film. I really don't have many. I didn't love Jeff Goldblum. We're just not Jeff Goldblum, girlies. He wasn't cast for us. He wasn't.

I thought Michelle Yeoh was incredible. Yeah. I didn't know if she was good or bad. I forgot like the plot. I forgot about that too. So that was like an actual plot twist for me. Yeah. I haven't seen the play in years.

No, I think I only, I saw it maybe twice, but I didn't remember like the storyline. And I guess like when I would think back on it, like, yeah, it was about a college, she's university. And I'm trying to think what songs remain for part two. I have been changed. Besides that. But then also like when they sing,

Fierro. Oh, no good deed. Yeah. I'm not that girl. She's saying that this time. Oh, okay. I'm glad it was in two parts. Like I needed to get up after three,

my butt was really hurting and I wouldn't have taken anything out, any piece of dialogue, any song. Zach was saying he was like shocked there wasn't an original song. I thought that was an interesting point. I feel like if there were to be one, it will be in the second part. Because part two is definitely lacking

the more recognizable songs. All the ones that you guys know from Glee and Shit are in part one. Claudia, I forgot about all this shit with the animals. Yeah, me too. It felt a little silly, but oh my God, I could not focus until I figured out who the professor was.

Peter Dinklage. And I'm literally like, who was that voice? Who was that voice? Peter Dinklage. But I refused to Google it in the theater. Yeah, same. I Googled it when we left. Peter Dinklage.

I just want to say, I behaved so well in the theater. I did not sing one lick, one bar. And the guy next to me, it was one of the theaters where you can like order food and cocktails. It's like one of those fancy ones. Oh my God, he got a bottle of wine and a cocktail. He was singing.

It definitely wasn't his first time because he was like pointing out to his friend, like fun things. I wanted to kill him and then he fell asleep. So like, so he literally missed half the movie. Oh man, he got a bottle of wine and a cocktail. He was singing. It definitely wasn't his first time because he was like pointing out to his friend, like fun things. I wanted to kill him and then he fell asleep. So like, see, literally missed half the movie. I was so happy when he fell asleep. That's so funny.

I didn't even feel inclined to sing because like I could, they were changing stuff. Like I wanted to hear it the way they intended and now I can sing along and enjoy. I also have to say, you guys know I hate when they like make things long, but they definitely intentionally stretched out Defying Gravity.

Like even I was listening. I said the same thing. Like they added more unlimited and I did not mind. I did not mind. I loved that they did. They never wanted it to end and neither did I. And I knew that like when she did, huh, it was gonna end right after that.

And like, it was even better than I imagined. Like the fade to black. It was gonna end right after that. And like, it was even better than I imagined. Like the fade to black. It was amazing. I loved that they made it extra long. Thank you. Oh no, I kept being like, come on, hit it. I want to hit, get to the note. Like I'm like itching to like hear the next part

of the song. And when she's like in the sky, it's an insane scene. Her cape is going, she's like, ah. And by the way, don't forget who controls the weather. Right. Michelle. But so she does like, ah. And by the way, don't forget who controls the weather. Right. Michelle. But so she does her, oh, I thought then it should have like gone right to black. They did like- I agree.

Three more cuts. They showed Ari, then they showed her flying again on the soundtrack. There's still like 22 more seconds. Good. I didn't want it to end. I think it just, no, they really like made a meal. Good. They made a meal. Good. I could have watched a whole three hour movie of just that song.

The thing is like, I will enjoy watching that back and like watching like clips of it and stuff, but like in that moment I'm like, can we just get out? No, I was like, I knew what they were doing and I said, yes, keep going, John Chu. Thank you. And they like kept stopping the song for her and Ari to talk.

Like also I loved, and this is obviously from the original movie, but like, I don't know, I probably missed it or forgot, but like how Ari, how Glinda like really is responsible for her iconic look, the cape and the hat. And you don't even realize like, you should wear the hat to the party tonight. Like it's actually-

It's so important. Jermaine, why did they change that? I don't know, but then in the beginning, when like they're burning that big scarecrow of the witch and they have the classic cape and the hat, that's like this look that Ari kind of made for her. And at first, not in good faith. But then, okay, that scene,

like I know it was definitely stretched out, but where they're, actually, you know, I really was holding space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity, because I don't think I realized that the song starts out, I hope you're happy, I hope you're happy now, I hope you're happy how you've lost your brain forever, I hope you think you're clever.

They're like mad at each other for the decisions that they're making. But then at the end of the song, I hope you're happy now that you're choosing this, I really hope it think you're clever. They're like mad at each other for the decisions that they're making. But then at the end of the song, I hope you're happy now that you're choosing this. I really hope it brings you bliss. I really hope you get it and you don't live to regret it. It's a coming to understand someone else's choices. Yeah, and Elphaba's not mad or judging Ari for not going.

And Ari's like, listen, you gotta do what you gotta do. But you know, that life on the run being like this big controversial figure, it's not for everyone. And some people aren't strong enough for it. And Glinda is not. Yeah, no, no, no, but she wants Elphaba to be happy. To do it.

Like, I hope it all goes well for you. No, it's so, it's true. A lot of like Defying Gravity and Wizard and I, like they play off of each other, like unlimited. Yes, another great scene was loathing, where they're hating each other as roommates and they're just like talking in the letters. I love that scene.

I remember from the Broadway play and I thought it was so well done. The set design was also incredible. Like the room was exactly how I would have pictured it. Like really, I have, I mean, Ari's wardrobe was insane. Like it was, it was spectacular. Like I would love to shake the hand of John M. Chu. Like he thinks he did that.

Who even is he? I don't even know. Everyone's talking about him like he's James Cameron. This is the first time I've ever heard his name. It won't be the last. No, well, Wicked Part II. Plus he's doing the Britney movie. Is he?

Oh, brilliant. Like seriously. That's why like everyone was doubly excited. When they make a movie about us one day, give it to John. Yeah. And when Wicked Part 2 comes out, I'll see it earlier in the day. And if you want to spend some marketing budget on getting us to dress up.

I am so glad you had the thought to see it this weekend, because if I had waited, I didn't even know what I was missing. Like. Yeah. And now I get to listen to the soundtrack. I'm having a whole Renaissance with the soundtrack and songs you already know what I was missing. Like. Yeah, and now I get to listen to the soundtrack. I'm having a whole renaissance with the soundtrack and songs you already know, but they're in the new styles, which is like fun and exciting.

And it's great. Do you think you're more of an Elphaba or Glinda? Zach was asking me in the car. It's a really good question. I think that like, we all like to think that we're Elphabas, like that we're, you know, morally tough and, but you know, when it comes down to like making really hard decisions, you're gonna throw your whole life away for a cause,

you know, not everyone can do that. Do you know what I mean? And that's why, like I said, it's like, it's easy for us to judge Glinda, but a lot of us would be Glinda in that situation. You're gonna throw your whole life away. You're gonna become this like a woman on the run who everybody hates, this wicked, I don't know.

A part of me understands her. So yeah, I like to think I'm an alpha, but I'd throw it all away for good. I don't know that I would. Yeah, it's a good question. He was like, do you think of you and Claudia, like who's alpha, but who's Glinda? I was like.

I think you're like, okay, if we're bringing it down to the two of us, like you're probably more alpha, and I'm more Glinda. Not aesthetically. No, no, at first I was like, I guess I'm Glinda cause I'm like all pink and she's Alphaba. And he was like, really? I think you're Alphaba and she's Glinda.

Like, and I was, he made some good points, honestly. He's like, wait, like he thinks I'm who? He thinks you're Glinda, like, and so popular and like. No, I agree. I agree. And he's like, I mean, it's hard. I don't know if I'm supposed to take that as an insult, Zach, but I agree.

No, like he insulted kind of both of us in his descriptions. And he was like to me, like, you're different. Like you're- Ooh, ooh, ooh, not different. But I do think ideologically I'm an alphaba, for sure. Ideologically, yes. And so ideologically, I like to think

that I would be an alphaba, but I don't know that. I've never been put in that situation. Do I want to defy gravity or not? I don't know. But then also it's like, what does Glinda do in the second half? Like maybe she's like working for Alphaba behind the scenes, like stopping them on their hunt,

like, you know, casting them in a different direction. So like maybe she's working for the cause, doing the good work, but like not putting her whole self out there. So let's, I'm leaving space for Glinda to be a good faith operator. However, like no one mourns the wicked, she's literally dancing on her grave.

Yeah, and then she's the one who throws the torch. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really excited for part two, just to sort of like type some loose ends and it's gonna be a whole ass year. So I'll see you guys then. Yeah, but like, I feel like I have enough right now. Me too.

To get me through. And I think I gotta take Ben to see the play. That's really sweet. You should, yeah. Right, he loved it. He's having like a cultural awakening, this whole thing. He had no idea this world existed and now he's been thrown in.

And honestly, like it makes Wizard of Oz look like a piece of shite. Like Jackie, I thought that, I was actually thinking on my way to work. Like, do I wanna open this can of worms? Like the Wizard of Oz look like a piece of shite. Like Jackie, I thought that I was actually thinking on my way to work. Like, do I want to open this can of worms? Like the Wizard of Oz could never. No, like I haven't seen it in a while. I just feel like it, it, it, it doesn't go that deep.

You know, it's just like- But they weren't trying. They were just thinking maybe they didn't know. Like they didn't know that someone was going to come in and like up and, and tell the story of their villain and make, you know, like it just makes Wizard of Oz look a little silly. Correct. Correct.

We're off to see the wizard. And also it's like, how much time is between all of this? Like between Elphaba, she's, and then like Elphaba dying. Like how much- Well, what are they? Like 20 probably. How old do you think she is when she dies? I'd say like 20 years.

Cause the wizard's still alive. I guess Glinda just doesn't age. Correct. Well, she obviously I feel like makes some deal with the wizard cause she gets to be magical. She gets a wand. Right. And she didn't possess that vernacular.

But the wizard doesn't have shite. Melissa, what's her name? Michelle does. Miss Marble. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Oh, not the head mistress being the bearded lady. Did you put that together?

I'm not singing. Yeah, I took, I realized halfway through when they're taking Peter Dinklage out back to like shoot him, I realized in that moment after like a couple of scenes that she was in that that's who that was. I didn't recognize her without her beard. I recognized her immediately.

I didn't. But she better be singing I recognized her immediately. I didn't. But she better be singing in part two, otherwise. That's weird, no? She's like one of the greatest singers. And by the way, people, I saw someone say this on TikTok and I completely agree with it. I don't feel as though I've had this sort of reaction and like excitement and like takeaway from a movie musical

since The Greatest Showman. And before that it was Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, before that hairspray. But really the crazy thing since The Greatest Showman. And before that, it was Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, before that hairspray. But really the crazy thing about The Greatest Showman was that it was completely original. That's what's exciting about this because it's the first adaptation. Like Beauty and the Beast is an adaptation of an adaptation. They redo it every couple of years.

Wicked, this is the first one, which is why it was such a big deal. But Greatest Showman was based on nothing. No, it's like, I gave you a perfect routine and they executed it perfectly. Thankfully they didn't call it sparky plastery, but they had a great script, great talent actresses, budget for days and they executed. But you know what?

These days, like they don't always execute. So we have to- Some of the worst movies are the biggest budget. Right, so like we have to acknowledge it and appreciate it. It wasn't a given. They could have really like made it shite. Now I had this conversation with Ben. Do you think that Ariana and Cynthia

got paid the same amount? I think in the spirit of sisterhood, yeah. I think so much about this. And also I had so many thoughts then about like the press thing and how like they marketed it. And it's like, it's really true that other movies, like when there's a two, like the two main characters are usually romantic.

So they like kind of try and make you think they're in love. And like, they took this strategy of like, we're gonna bring the friendship of Glinda and Elphaba and bring that to press, which seems obvious, but like actually is, and it was very much a choice. And I wonder if they were shitting bricks when Ari and SpongeBob came out and everybody hated them and they were like, this could seriously ruin the movie.

If the movie had come out a year before, if it hadn't died down a little bit. In the midst of. People might have not wanted to go because of all of that. I wonder if people were quaking like, oh my God, these two are gonna ruin the movie. Okay, so I had seen this, but I didn't wanna say it until I just read it about the salaries

because I was shocked when I heard this. Ready? So the salaries for Wicked have not been confirmed, but reports indicate that Arevo earned a million dollars for the role of Alphaba, and that makes her far from the best paid member of the cast with Ariana Grande reportedly making $15 million, and Michelle Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum

each making $2 million. I saw that Jeff Goldblum made $2 million. I saw that Jeff Goldblum made $2 million. I saw that Jeff Goldblum made double of what Cynthia did. And I think that Ari getting more money than Cynthia, while for people is really shocking, when you boil it down to like business, it makes a lot of sense. Like Ariana is this global, and this movie is global.

Like people are talking about it in every country. A lot of that has to do with Ariana, the people she brings to this role, the younger people she brings to this role. I understand why she got paid more. And I know, like I was familiar with Cynthia Rivo and I think people who like operate within, you know, pop culture are,

but she's not globally known. She is now. But I think Jeff Goldblum getting paid more than her like is actually disgraceful. He was in it for one scene. No, and like anybody could have done what he did. Any like goofy man. Same with Michelle Yeoh, like she's great.

I'm shocked James Corden wasn't the wizard. Honestly, it's such a good call. Cause he's perfect for it. He would have been great. He would have been great. I love that. So the disparity between Cynthia and Ari makes sense. It makes sense.

Ari brings so much into the V, just her amount of followers on Instagram. Yeah, you get paid more for that. It's just like, I wonder if that affects their friendship. It's definitely weird. I wonder also if these deals are the same for part two, or do you renegotiate? I don't think so.

Part two is filmed. Right, it was probably one big deal. They probably got paid the same for each film. Yeah, but they probably have like royalties percent. So I just personally don't feel like Jeff Goldblum. I would have given his $2 million to Cynthia. Like I didn't think that he was really, he was worth it.

I thought Michelle Yeoh was great, but I don't think she deserved to be paid more than she was barely in it. No, and does she sing? Like in The Wizard and I, she's like talking, singing in the beginning, but is she a singer? Like as a person, I don't know. I or dare? Cynthia. No, and does she sing? She's like, in The Wizard of the Night, she's like talking, singing in the beginning, but is she a singer? Like as a person?

I don't know. I don't think so. Not that it matters. She carried a tune. Yeah, this person responded, I'm gonna steal this junk pile Jennifer comment. She wrote, I'm not surprised that Ariana got paid more. I'm surprised that Cynthia got paid so little.

Yeah. For such a big movie. Yeah, a lot of work, a lot of talent. But this is something you just take, like you want it. She's the title character, this will change her entire career. Like I honestly would do it for free. So they're obviously gonna perform at the Oscars, right?

Wow, they should perform. Maybe they'll perform through fine gravity, might be too big and like too risky. They could do loathing, that would be amazing. It would be, but it has to be a song that has both of them, right? Or just Cynthia performs. Well, also depends what songs get nominated, sorry.

By the way, also Ari could sing, I wonder if Ari was disappointed because you were the one who told me that she tried out for both roles. I wonder if she wanted one more than the other. She wanted Alphaba more, her whole life she wanted to be Alphaba. Because when you think of Wicked,

you think of Alphaba, like that's the main character, even though after watching the film, I wouldn't say that, but she is the main character and she has all the good songs. And I mean, Ari's version of The Wizard of the Night, like the was at Wicked's 25th anniversary on NBC. Seriously, one of the best covers, go listen to it on, like she would have slayed the house down, but so I imagine she was disappointed

when she didn't get the role that she wanted, but like it's really the definition of everything happens for a reason. Cause I don't think she would have been as good as Alphaba as she was as Glinda, honestly. Yeah, no, she's always had like Alphaba in her heart. And when Cynthia's singing Defying Gravity, like I'm just like watching Ari,

like she wants to sing so badly. And then when I didn't realize like Glinda sings on it too and she finally gets to sing Defying Gravity, I'm like so happy for her. Me too. But I think it really worked out for the best, honestly. It did. I mean, she was so Glinda.

Yeah, I couldn't really, I don't see her as Alphaba. I think she would, I mean, because she's like literally become Glinda in her life. She would have become Alphaba. She'd have dark hair and she'd be like, you know, wearing all black all the time and she would have totally leaned into it. She always saw herself as an Alphaba.

Yeah. I mean, her covers of Wicked, anytime she's ever saying it, sick. Sick. Yeah, so definitely get your ass to see Wicked. It is worth it. Yeah, just like try and find a time that doesn't bring you home at 11.45, you're two loaves of sourdough or three hours overproofed,

and you gotta to start shaping You know shaping up midnight. It's not where you want to be. It's never a good time when you're shaping up at night No, but the loves actually came out pargy shockingly. That's so great three hours over proof like in sourdough years. That's Okay, we'll move on whilst trying not to keep talking about Wicked, but who knows? Who knows? Okay, so our next story, even though everything really just like, who gives a fuck?

Our next story, oh, this is really sweet news. Kylie Kelsey is pregnant, expecting baby number four with her husband, Jason Kelsey. So they announce their pregnancy in a really sweet way. They took a picture of their three daughters like crying, screaming, laughing, saying, I feel like we captured a very accurate representation of how each of the girls feels about getting another sister.

At least Ellie, mom and dad are on the same page because Ellie was smiling. So they are having a fourth daughter. Okay, like literally us, I'm obsessed. So happy for them. Like four daughters, what's better than that? Okay, or it's the Judaices, right? There's four daughters there too. Yeah, there's four daughters there. daughters, what's better than that? Okay, or it's the Judices, right? There's four daughters there too.

Yeah, there's four daughters there. No, it's really- Iconic quadruple daughters, the Judices, the Osharies and the Kelseys. The Kelseys. Really, really cute. It's like so crazy that Jason Kelsey has four girls when he's like the manliest man in the country.

It's really crazy. And I know that like that's how statistics work. Like it's 50-50, a boy or a girl, but like, what are the odds? Yeah, yeah. It's really crazy. And I know that like that's how statistics work. Like it's 50-50, a boy or a girl, but like, what are the odds? Yeah, yeah. It's really cute. Of course the nerd like the photo. Of course this does like make you wonder

like what's next for Taylor and Travis, right? Does anybody else feel like, what's her name? Kylie, sorry, oh my God. Kylie and Taylor like don't like each other. Not trying to like cause drama women against women. I just feel like they're so different. I don't feel like they don't like each other,

but like they don't have to be best friends and the odds that they're gonna be best friends are like so slim and they are so different. And I think that that's like, okay, you know? Cause I can see like Kylie not liking Taylor. Yeah, but I think Taylor makes it her mission for like people who she wants. Or people who she cares to like her, like to like her.

So she's probably like baking her cookies, like knocking down her door. Like, and I'm sure Kylie like hates that even more. And they just like, are two people speaking different languages? However, they have a common goal. And like Taylor's gonna make it work. Taylor's gonna make it work.

Yeah. So I don't know, like now she's- Yeah, something like this, like definitely, you know, when an in-law, when like your brother slash brother-in-law has a baby, like it definitely starts a conversation. Yeah, Uncle Trav, now he's Uncle of Four. Like if this was like, you know, getting his, his juices flowing, they're flowing even more now is all.

Oh my God, did I tell you that I watched the first episode Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader? No. It was horrible. Like, and I really wanted to watch it. It was seriously so bad. Why? Are You Smarter Than A Celebrity, whatever it's called.

Also like, that doesn't make sense, but. Jackie, they were moving so slow. We watched like 20 minutes and there had been one question. Like you tune in cause you want to see like how the questions are like, oh my God Jackie, they were moving so slow. We watched like 20 minutes and there had been one question. Like you tuned in cause you want to see like how the questions are. Like, Oh my God, they were just moving so slow. Every time there was a question, we had to like phone a celebrity and tell me where you're

from. Like it's not Travis's fault. It's not Nikki Glaser's fault. It's not any of the celebrities fault. Not the lovely man who was a contestant. Get, it's a game show. Play the game. How was Travy? So cute. Like I just know like he didn't know

half the answers, you know? Yeah. The questions are hard, like. Yeah, I wanna hear the questions. I only got to like maybe seriously one or two questions. I knew one of them and I didn't know the other. I wanna hear them. Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Paris, number three. Yeah. Paris Hilton's making headlines claiming that she's never had Botox or fillers saying she's all natural. So Paris Hilton is aging backwards, all natural.

The 43 year old reality star and DJ claimed on the Zach Singh show on Friday that she is working on aging in reverse without the help of any cosmetic features. She said, I feel really proud that I'm all natural. I've stayed out of the sun. I've never done any Botox, injectables, no surgery, nothing. She explained that she has maintained her youthful glow

thanks to her mom, Kathy Hilton's skincare advice. She said, my mom told me when I was eight years old, Paris, stay out of the sun. And then she taught me this amazing 10 step skincare routine. So I've literally been doing that since I was eight. She also noted that she built an incredible in-home spa called The Sliving Spa.

It features- Yeah, have you ever seen it? Ithome spa called The Sliving Spa. It features- Yeah, have you ever seen it? It has like a hyperbaric chamber. It's insane. It has an LED light therapy, offers hydrofacials and cryotherapy and hosts a hyperbaric chamber. So she is like adamant that she has never-

And by the way, she has maintained this for years. Yes, she has. And people I think are really dubious about this claim. However, like I'm really, I'm looking into it. Like I believe her, I think this is really possible. However, like there's gotta be something. Like she's 43 years old and her skin is flawless. Like not even Botox.

Like does her forehead move? Now, like people, you know, gravity is gravity. We can't defy it. People, I, a lot of people don't believe this one because it's just like not believable that somebody who looks that great could have had no help. But there also just are people who are genetically blessed. So like you have to keep that in mind too.

Yeah, she'd say it out of the sun and she has a hyperbaric chamber, she does hydrophagials. But there are some people who even just like regular, not celebrities, regular people in your life who look amazing for their age. Like part of it is just some people are genetically blessed. And I do think that her sister is also in, like they look the same, they both look amazing.

And they both said they follow their mom's skincare advice. Like there's a lot of credibility here. Yeah, Nikki also looks great. Like she has the same genetics. That she like has, I'm sure Nikki like has like everyone else done stuff. I don't know if she maintains the same like line as Paris, but she looks amazing for each two.

She's a mom of three. Like. Yeah. So like, I think that there is some truth here. I don't think she's lying. And I also don't think she would lie in such like a big public adamant way. And by the way, I agree with you.

She has said this many times. And actually the first time I ever met Paris, like not to make anything about myself, we were just talking and she said this. She said this to me in private. She's like, yeah, you know, I've never had anything done. I'm like, well, like Botox, obviously. She was like, no, no, no, like not under the knife,

not in Jackson. I've never done anything to my face. No, it's so crazy. And you look at a picture of her like from nowadays, like she looks like someone who has amazing work. Like that's just cause of what you assume, but like potentially she hasn't. And I believe her, you know what?

I'm a believer. I've not known Paris to lie. No, like what's the crazier part that she looks this good and has never had anything done or she's a woman who's been in Hollywood her entire life and has not fallen prey to the plastic surgery? Yeah. The thing is she doesn't look 17.

She looks 35. No, her skin is amazing though. Yeah. And by the way, skin, for the most part, is genetic. Yeah, and Cathy looks amazing. You can do all your routines. Cathy has amazing skin. I love Cathy.

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Teddy Mellencamp has taken accountability and apologized for wrongdoing after her- Does she have a coach? Affair with horse trainer. Does she have a coach? A coach? An accountability- Does she have accountability?

This is what she posted on Instagram. She said, the only person who can change your life is you. We have two options. Pretend to be a victim or stand up and fight for yourself. We all deserve peace and happiness. It's giving Alphaba. I have cried and mourned. I've taken accountability and apologize

for things I have done wrong. Now I've given myself permission to grow and thrive. I've decided to not pander to the media and tell my side because in the big scheme of things, clickbait means nothing and of course, three sides to every story. How can I stand up and show up for the people that do matter does?

This is called being an adult. Okay, like I actually, I'm sorry, I stopped caring like four sentences ago and I already like barely cared about the situation like in the beginning. What I did wanna talk about when it comes to Bravo is you did you think that Bravo had like another convention in Miami this weekend?

Yeah, Fan Fest. That was like, it was called Bravo Fan Fest, which I had like, I saw like a bunch of good panels, like, but I don't know why there was like no hype for it, like Bravo saw a bunch of good panels. But I don't know why there was no hype for it, like BravoCon, what was this event? I don't know. And why wasn't it as hyped up? It looked super well done, it looked really beautiful.

They had stars galore. Yeah, I saw something, it did seem like BravoCon, Elk, but I couldn't get my head around what it was. Also, I heard Kyle Cook said something about Ben and Greg. Screets it. And I heard that the whole room was booing him. So like that brings me joy. I don't know if it made any cut.

I think it was one of those Watchdrappin's live tapings. Oh my God, I wonder what he said, do you know? I don't know because the boots on the ground who told me like seriously is like the worst historian on the planet. Like- You need to know who it was. I was actually- But I just know that the crowd booed Kyle and like that brought me joy. I was supposed to be in the video.

I was invited to something at the fan fest. You should have went. It didn't work out. They should have had you moderate a panel or something. I had to see Wicked at midnight. No, I got something. I forget what it was. I forget why it didn't work out.

It didn't work out. So I didn't know there was something Bravo headed to Miami. Very cool, very cool. And I saw Jesse Solomon was there. And I just think it's really important that everybody knows that if you look at the pictures of Jesse Solomon on the red carpet wearing like a knitted neutral type of shirt, that is the shirt.

He is wearing Abercrombie. That's a shirt both Ben and Jason Tardick wore in St. Barts in different colors. It's from Abercrombie. So add him to the club. Yes. Of the Crombie boys. Reality stars love Abercrombie.

Crombie boys. Don't sleep on the men's crombie, it's good. Or the women's. I like that shirt, Jesse looked great in it. He should wear this shirt to the party tonight. I can't, I'm already wearing this hat. Oh. Yeah, just back to Teddy Mellencamp,

releasing a statement saying you're not gonna be releasing a statement, just release the statement. No. And it's giving guilty. No, you guys like more of this, if you want to like get out of whatever, talking about like whatever, cause it's like the more like nonsense you say like this, like the more we just wanna move on

and we don't wanna hear about it. Like, cause these things are fatiguing. I don't care. Like I don't wanna hear you say, like it's so smart. I can't tell you enough. She basically, she might as well have said she was just having

a human moment, you know? Yeah, no, like word salad up, keep talking about it without actually saying anything and we will move on. And it was like, we were barely, like barely caring in the beginning and now I really, really don't care. So that's a strategy.

Do you see that she does her podcast a lot with Erica? Do you see those clips? I've seen it, yes. Where's Tamara? Or is that just like, they do both? I don't know. I'm not even gonna pretend to, I'm not even gonna pretend

like I understand two T's in a pod, honestly. Okay, cause you would, yeah. I just, I always see Teddy and Erica and I'm like, where there's a T and an E? I see, by the way, I'm not doubting you. I've seen them once. No, I've seen them like a couple of times. Like maybe it's all from the same episode,

but I've seen it over time. You know what I mean? I think that like Erica, you know, when she does a press tour, she goes on the teas. Okay. She brings the E to the T. Yeah. Okay. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

A little more How's Wives news. Oh wow. It falls into your favorite category of Luann Delacepse shooting her shot with famous actors. Oh, who this time? Luann Delacepse recalls heavily making out with Hugh Grant at a restaurant in the Hamptons. Oh my God, I love that.

Luann once had a wild night with Hugh Grant. The Bravo star recounted a heated moment she shared with the actor in an interview with Too Fab during her Marief Kill cabaret tour. She said she decided to dine at a restaurant in the Hamptons called Pierre's after her friend told her that Hugh Grant was there. So she called the restaurant and said,

get the table right next to Hugh Grant. She said, I had my family over and my brother was visiting me and I said, let's go. At the eatery, she set up what she called a flirting 101 ploy that involved her sitting behind Grant and casually bumping into him while pushing out her chair. After which- We could all learn a thing or two from Luanne Dilla Grant.

Take notes, ladies. After which she apologized to him. She said, I'm so sorry, can I buy you a shot? I feel terrible. A shot? A shot. And he goes, okay, but I'll come have a shot with you if you do one with me.

Okay, love that he was receptive because I'm sure like things like this happened to him a lot. And he obviously was dazzled by the Countess. The night progressed from there and the two ended up taking shots and making out heavily at the table. She said her brother was like, I can't believe you're making out with Hugh Grant.

And she was like, neither can I. Okay. It's weird that her brother was there, but I'm like choosing to ignore that part of the story. I'm obsessed. I believe it. I actually, we saw Hugh Grant in the Hamptons. Like he obviously spends time there. I believe every lick of this story.

Luanne, especially if you don't know her. Yes, I literally saw him walking out of St. Ambrose. Oh cool. I, if you don't know like the lore of this person as like a famous housewife, like slash train wreck, and you just see her in the Hampton, she's really like a very beautiful, very worldly. Confident. Confident.

Confident older woman, like somebody who Hugh Grant would go on a date with. And I love that Hugh Grant got got by the Countess. I love that he was attracted to her. I love that he like respects a woman his own age. Like this makes me, this is like 11 points in Hugh Grant's column. And I love that Luann held onto this story for a little bit

before she shared it with us. And I just, she's like, she's literally a role model. Yeah, no, she really is. Like she's not the Countess for no reason. You don't become the Countess just like by accident. It's true. We forget like, cause now it's like a joke, but like at one point in time,

this woman was a part of British aristocracy. Like she was married to an actual nobleman. She lived in like a six floor townhouse on the Upper East Side and she would not let Bethany Frankel's driver refer to her by her first name. Like this woman is other worldly. And obviously she's now like, you know, a reality star

and all the things that come with it, but you don't lose that je ne sais quoi. No, you don't lose that Riz. You don't lose that Riz. You don't lose that Riz. She's the Riz-ler. Yeah. Yeah. So I love that. I had one more thought about Wicked though.

Like, I forget what just made me think of something from Wicked. I don't know if I'm gonna remember it, but that's what I wanted to say next. The girl who played opposite Bowen Yang, like the two followers of Glinda, she was great too. Bowen Yang was another one who every time I saw him, I remembered I was in the movie theater.

Yeah, he distracted you? Yeah, just like too much of like a person outside. And then I guess the Ethan Slater, cause I'm just looking at him like, what in the, what? It's also like, I don't know if I put together that like his character, like he was booked in a role that like, likes Ari, you know? No, no, no.

And he's like, I would do anything for you, Glinda. He wasn't acting. He wasn't, every time they touched, I'm like, ah! It's true, I agree. The baby! Agreed. It was too real. What about the baby?

Oh, and by the way, I know it's probably like part of the lore, but everyone in the opening scene and every like member of Oz, the munchkins, like having the same hair as him. Oh my God, I thought everyone was him. Yeah. Is that Bach? And I guess it is part of the lore

cause like it's the scarecrow hair. Right, right, right. Oh my gosh. It was crazy. I didn't realize Bach was like such a big character. I had forgotten who he was, even though he is a big part of Dancing Through Life. I'm wearing the hat to the party tonight, but.

I love Viero. Like he was so handsome. He was so good, yeah. I was like longing for him the whole movie. But then also it's like Elsa was kind of touching her friend's man's face. I didn't like that. So that is something that doesn't get spoken about enough

because before they can even act on those feelings, like the whole Oz thing happens and like we forget about small things like relationships, but she was betraying her friend. Yeah, she was going after her friends man when she knew how much that all started like after Glinda shared like she's gonna marry him. And then like you're in the woods touching his face,

you didn't need to do that. And then she's like letting her friend spiral. Like things haven't been the same since that day with the professor and like you're just sitting there letting her drive herself crazy when you have information. It's literally that scene. It's Miranda when she knew why Big didn't show up at the altar and she lets Carrie think for months

that it was her fault in Sex and the City movie. But that would be like it because Big was in love with Miranda. No, I know, but it's like you're sitting on information, you're letting your friend literally drive with some crazy. Linda's the one who's the bad friend because she didn't get on the broom,

but it's like you're stealing her man. You're in the midst of a man theft. Right, why don't you get on that broom and go get your man? Yeah. So that was not the nicest, but you know. No, it wasn't. Love conquers all, I guess.

I don't know. They could have just like had a mutual love of animals and been friends and let it be that. I wasn't sure. I didn't remember like who Fiyero ended up with. I'm like, is this Alphaba's love of interest or Glinda's? And when it was Glinda's, I'm like, you know what, good. Like it's fine.

Yeah. Like Alphaba has too much going on in her life for like a romantic partner. So it's fine. Like Alphaba has too much going on in her life for like a romantic partner. So I think that he goes Alphaba and then he like betrays Alphaba. And that's really like when the villain, you know, that's major part of her villain origin story is the heartbreak from Fiyero and him choosing Glinda.

But like, I'm just, that's going on vibes. I don't remember for a fact. I'm gonna see the play. Maybe I'll see it over Thanksgiving weekend. You should. Spoilers for a fact. I'm gonna see the play. Maybe I'll see it over Thanksgiving weekend. You should. Spoilers for part two. Or like Munchkin so small-minded. No.

When she ran into that field, it was being Belle. When she ran into that, that was like one of the, like if my, if I was on a heart rate monitor, like that was one of my peaks where I was just like overcome with joy and glee. And she was just like, she's such a sweetie. Elphaba's such a sweetie. People don't know that about her. It was giving that scene when Belle runs

into the lavender fields and she says. If you're not singing to an open field in a movie musical, what are you doing? And really Julie Andrews did it best and she did it first. Did it first. What line does she sing, Belle, when she's like, I want so much more. I want adventure in the great white somewhere.

In the great white somewhere. I want it more than I can tell. Yes, thank you. And we're looking at the great white somewhere. Like, it literally writes itself. My only note actually is when she's on that cliff, like what she's looking out at, like, wasn't pargy. In Beauty and the Beast, it was so gorgeous.

She's looking over the lavender fields of Provence. And of course in Sound of Music, she's looking over these gorgeous hills, rolling hills. And I don't know, she was kind of looking out over the desert, Elphaba. It was like dark, it was like dusty. Yeah, well that's like, it was a magical land. So it was a little bit like, you know, colorful AI,

like not beautiful nature, like not the architect. It was more like the wizard, but that's the land that they live in. It's fairy land, so. Yeah, just a note. That is our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast the Monday Morning Show

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