The Toast - Dishin' With Lish with Ben Soffer: Monday, March 23rd, 2026

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Mondarys. You guys, today's such an exciting Monday because I am joined by Bwengelish. Ben Saffer, Claudia's husband, host of the good guys, Lish on the Dish. Lish on the Dish. Happy to fill in. My cogers has fallen ill. I'm actually really, I'm sad that Claudia is sick, but I'm really excited to be co-hosting with you. Just like shake it up.

I love co-hosting with you. I need a little disruption. Yeah, you know, we can do this all the time on the good guys. Like, you're always welcome. I think I invited you to come on like a couple of weeks. You said, yeah, like, come on. You said, yeah, but like set it up. Make it easy for me.

Like, you know, I'm a guest. We're here. It's easy. No, no, we need to like spread out. Totally. Otherwise, you know, people get sick of us. I totally. I totally agree.

I totally agree. Lish on the dish. Lish on the dish. I'm excited to just shake it up, get your perspective. There's so many ongoing stories right now that Claudia and I have sort of circled the drain on. So it's like time for a fresh perspective. You're also lucky. Like you know I live with my head and my ass and I know nothing about everything and I somehow know everything about what's going on right now in pop culture.

That's so great. I know everything. I've been consuming. I've been watching. I've been doing. Claudia's controlling the remote and I am focusing, okay? Okay. I think that has to do with, you know, I've been keeping my version of Shabbat where I shut my phone from Friday night to Saturday night and then torture the people around.

To use their phones. Yeah. And, but like, I can't just, like, be on my phone. So she puts on something. I'm watching Mormon wives. Yeah. Okay. I'm watching Love Story by. JFK. I can't, I can't be doing anything else. I'm reading my book. How's your book going? Remarkably bright creatures. Wonderful book. I'm about 60% of the way through. Okay. Age 205. Do you think you'll be finishing it anytime soon? Yeah, I'm doing about... Maybe in like three Saturday? I'm doing about 20% a Saturday. Okay. So this was probably,

I think this was my third Saturday. And it's not good enough that you feel like maybe reading it on a Sunday or Monday? No. When would I read it on a Sunday? Like instead of watching TV? No, I could. We really don't watch that much TV. Like at night and then we just like, like an hour at night and then we go to sleep.

Like, I've had such a long day I'm going to read. Well, if you love the booking, you want to know what's, know what happens next. Oh, I love the book so much that I don't want it to end. Okay, listen, to each their own, we're glad that you're reading. It's a great book. We're never going to clown on you. And yeah, you can read at your own pace.

I'm not going to judge you. It's a great book, and I just, like, she, Claudia picked it for me, and it's just so me. Like, she's friends with an octopus. That's so me. Yeah. I would be friends with an octopus. Like, I don't have octopuses in my orbit to be friends with, but if somebody introduced me to an octopus, I would be friends with an octopus.

You're just a friendly guy. I'm friendly. Yeah. So friendly. Drove the car here today. Notice there's a little ladybug as I brought down my window. Little ladybug. I was thinking myself, what do I do with this ladybug?

I stopped. I turned off the car. I returned the ladybug to where she belonged. Do you make a wish? No, I just said, I hope you have a great day. You're supposed to make a wish on a ladybug. Really? Do I still have the wish?

Yeah. No. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's like when you encounter one. Good, well. So you missed out.

I gave her back her wish. Oh, wow. You gave her power back. I gave her power. It's like Aladdin with the genie. She's free. Oh, my God. Speaking of Aladdin,

we saw Disney on Ice yesterday. Yes, we left before Aladdin. Oh, we did. What song did they sing? I walked out with you guys. Do you not see me, helping and puffing behind you? I forgot.

I forgot. You guys left right after intermission because like Ruby's a little bit younger, so he had like a shorter threshold. Cojers had a shorter threshold. Ruby was great. Ruby was fantastic. He would have been, he was ready for another four hours.

Cojurer was like, I got to get the fuck out of here. Zach was like, oh, why did the softers leave? I was like, I think Ruby was fussy even though he was quiet as in the house. I love that I'm calling her cojors because that's what your family calls her. I never once called her cogers to anybody else. They're probably like, what the hell are you? No, but in the context of all of us going to Disney on Ice, like she is cojers. She's cojors.

She's anti-cojors. She's mama. She's mama. And she's mama. And you guys left right after intermission and I walked out with you. because I had Max with me and like he was in the carrier, but like starting to wake up. And I was just like, you know what,

we can go for a walk in the concessions. Like I don't want to sit down here anymore. But the first half that we did see was so amazing. What were your thoughts? That was your first time going as an adult. It was amazing. And anybody that says that they're not a Disney adult is a liar. It's so joyful.

Like if you're put in a situation where your son or daughter is on your lap, you are watching a whole new world. You are watching Beauty and the Beast, whatever song that was. What song was that? Be our guest, be our guest. Put a service to the test. Tie a napkin round your neck, Jerry, and you control the rest. Scoop du jour!

Oh, that's the name of my chicken salad place. I forgot. It's soup du jour. Oh, I thought it was going to be the next of your recipes. No, no. Chicken salad. If you can't enjoy that, you're a monster. No, it's seriously magical.

from the we actually walked in right when it started so we were like walking down the stairs and it was taking place on the ice and it's just like transformative and so magical it's beautiful yeah it's a beautiful event would you say it's the happiest place on earth family fun i would say that it's the happiest place on ice yeah i would i would i would say so too i would it's lovely and uh shout out panthers arena No, what a beautiful arena. Yeah. Fabulous. Great parking.

We've got to go to a Panthers game. I'm down. I don't know if we can park. Where we parked? We parked in like player parking. Can you park there when there's actually a game? Oh, can you park in the garage? You can?

You can you? No, just if you're special. See? She said you'll give us her parking. Wow. Wow. No, that entrance was sick. That entrance was sick.

And I told you, I love hockey. I went to arrange. First of all, normally I hate hockey. Okay. Hate hockey. I went to a Ranger game like three and a half months ago, right up against the glass. They're slamming on the glass. The puck's hitting you in the face.

This is the thrill of a lifetime. So you like hockey now? I love hockey when you're sitting there. Otherwise, I'd rather watch it at home. Okay. I feel like it's hard to watch it. You can't see the puck. I don't know why I said that.

I don't want to watch it at all. Yeah. I'm either there on the glass or I'm not interested. Yeah, but I don't know. Hockey's like pretty big down here because the panthers like Loki sleigh. Yeah, they're good. Like many a Stanley Cup have been won. And ice hockey is having a big moment in the country.

Of course, Team USA, but also, like, youth hockey numbers are the biggest levels we've ever seen. Really? Like, younger kids signing up for hockey. Wow, are we thinking about hockey for hair? Charlie would be creative. They love hockey. They love all sports, but they love hockey. Wow.

Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. Like, Jews don't do ice hockey. We do floor. The Hughes brothers. No, but, like, it's really cool to do ice hockey, but we don't do ice hockey. Yeah, no.

I would love them to do ice hockey. do ice hockey. Don't get me wrong. We do a lot of floor hockey, which by the way is not real hockey. I don't know what it is. It's basically Hogwarts. It's like so, you know, like quidditch. Yeah. Exactly. Except quidditch if you didn't fly and you just like, we're on your broom running around. That's floor hockey. Yeah, it's like field hockey, but indoors. Indoor's and really sad. Yeah. It's fun. Have we mentioned that Cojers was a world class floor hockey goalie? Do the people know that? Golly. No. And I'm not sure that that's. It's true because I feel like that's something she would have told us.

She was. She talked about the Olympics. She would have worked it in. World class. World class. More hockey goalie. Maybe she doesn't want people to know. Well, they know.

Maybe that's her secret. Well, now they know. Well, that was a great way to spend a Sunday. Was Disney on ice? The Diz. And the day before we went to the Miami Open. Oh, right. And my goodness, what an event.

People are always, U.S. Open, the Miami Open. Greater than? No, definitely not greater than. Oh. But amazing. Just as good then? No. Oh, so that's why they do say U.

U.S. Open, U.S. Open. I guess so, but, like, you hear so much U.S. Open. I've never heard of the Miami Open. I was thinking, like, what the hell is this? Is it golf? Like, I didn't know. No, it's like, yeah, it's another. But, like, we saw Sinner.

He's fantastic. Vamos sinner! That's what they were saying, because he's from Italy. Vamos! And he was great. Okay, and he weren't. I wasn't there with them. No, we had such fabulous seats.

How's Grayuven? Is he moving and grayuven? He's moving and grayuven. I love him. Moving and grayuven. love grayo he's groovy and chunky and beautiful the gruber he's the best he is the best we can't talk about the kids on the show because that we just want to go home i know ruby charlie charlie so cute hearts they're beautiful boys maxi he's beautiful let's go okay nine minutes show we love you

all right no we have worked we actually have a lot to do and if it weren't for a jess and timor like CUI video maybe I would get up right now but we have much to discuss by way of pop culture we do so if that's all between you and I and I guess we'll do good guys and podcasts together at a later date I think that's it I don't there's a lot of there's a lot of pop culture yeah talk about and we can weave in and out of bunge and swunge dynamics we can we'll weave we'll bob and weave okay so without further a do-da-do do it is time for the fast five stories that yida-do need to know and today's episode of of the toast is brought to you by Quince. These days, I'm all about quality over quantity,

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That's code toast at natures Sunshine.com. Thank you to our sponsors. Thank you to our sponsors. Well done. Our first story, we're actually going to go Justin Timberlake for our first story. I know Taylor, Frankie Paul is seriously like the story of the year. Yes. But we both just watched the video of Justin Timberlake getting arrested.

We had reported a few weeks ago that he was trying, he was suing to stop the release this video saying that it would cause severe harm to his reputation. It will be embarrassing. They said public dissemination of this footage would cause severe and irreparable harm to Justin's personal and professional reputation, subjecting him to public ridicule and harassment and serve no legitimate public interest. However, the body cam footage was released. There were things that were redacted that were either like personal information or private

details. So, you know, probably like his address or whatever. Or other things. I don't know what exactly was redacted. I'm just assuming because when he gives over his license and it cuts to like the next thing. So it has been redacted, but the video is here. We see him getting pulled over, saying who he is, what he's doing. We see him doing his walking test that he utterly fails.

Yes. He declines a breathalyzer, and then we see him in the police station. He makes a little joke, honey, and made a little joke about his race. And I want to know what you thought. Do you think this causes reputational harm to Mr. Dustin Timberlake? I thought this was a very, very, very sad video to watch. I felt very sad. the whole time watching it.

I felt sad when he was in the police station, and I didn't need to see it. That said, I don't think that this will do a reputable harm to his reputation. If anything, if I feel this way, I think it will do the opposite. I think that there are so many people that are going to watch that and be like,

oh, I feel bad that that video was released. It's not like, he looks like a sad, drunk guy that's sad that he was pulled over. and sad that he was in this situation and tried to get out of it and couldn't. I have a lot of thoughts, but I do think ultimately this video softens the blow of his DUI.

It's not really embarrassing. He didn't act in a manner like, I'm Justin Timberlake, you don't know who I am. He was trying to say he's on a tour, a world tour. He sounded drunk in the way he was saying it because it made no sense because only, you know, 0.0001% of people are actually on a world tour.

Totally. And we know that the arresting officer did not know who Justin Timberlake was. It was very clear that he didn't know. He was like a much younger guy. That's not his artist. And then I think some of the friends that he was following home when they came back, they were like, you know, talking about sexy back and Justin Timor and in sync, bye, bye, by, bye.

But Justin never acted that way. Like, don't you know who I am? No. I will say he, the walking test, like, we should try that if it's really hard because he was horrible at it. Yeah. And I wish he's taken the breathalizer because by that point, like he's going to jail, unless he was going to be so drunk that like we would know he blew three times the legal limit and he was drinking and driving like that. But like I don't know. I feel like there was a chance

maybe he wasn't that drunk. Yeah. Is there a chance? He seemed pretty drunk, but not, if he if he was really drunk, he's clearly a nice drunk. He was very measured. He was trying to be nice, definitely tried to weasel his way out of it by saying that he was on a world tour and was hoping that the cop would pick up the crumb that he just left that he's a, uh, a major celebrity and he didn't. But I don't know, just like watching that, I was just like, oh, this is just sad. Very sad.

It's funny because if Claudia were here, she hates him. She hates when people get DUIs. She thinks it's the most disgusting, reprehensible thing a human being can do. I totally hear that. And she's not wrong at all. And like we're going so soft on him

when we have been so hard on him since this happened. But I would have been, I will be. We'll talk to her tomorrow. Curious to hear what, how this video makes her feel about the situation. and if she feels any softer about it. Yeah. It just was such a sad video.

I'm just following my friends home. Yeah. Like I'm just trying to get home. By the way, get fucking better friends. Why? Because Justin Timberlake shouldn't be driving drunk in the Hamptons. He has so much money.

Somebody should be driving him. Why didn't they carpool there? They're all staying together. They took two cars there, even though they wanted to drink. Yeah. No, he needs to have better friends. So that's just stupid.

Agreed. Nobody of Means should ever be driving drunk. You should only, nobody should ever drive drunk. Yeah. In a God forbid situation, the only person who should ever be driving drunk is somebody who has no way home. They're stranded, you know? Justin Timberlake could never be stranded. Right.

Get a helicopter. Get a drive. Get a driver. Call the police. Get a room at the hotel. The police will bring you home. Yeah. Like you're, right?

No, no, no. There's really no excuse. There's no excuse. And like poor planning, like you went to, why would you take two cars to go out for drinks? Like, take one car. One person is designated driver. 100%. Not everybody kind of a friend like me.

No. Who's just always designated. Who's always D-Ding. Yeah. No, it's very sweet. And you become a better driver. I kind of like slay these streets. You know what I like noticed.

You know what I noticed about myself recently? I like kind of speed. The Tesla's very easy to speed. It is. The Tesla's very easy to speed. And I told the story where I took your Tesla to Josh and I did a speed engagement in Orlando. And I couldn't go below 120. Really?

Yeah, because it's a go-kart. Like once you're on the open highway And you're trying to go 200 miles It's a fucking go cart Yeah And you run out of gas like that Yeah The second you start to speed

I looked it up afterwards I'm like These Tesla's fucking suck And they were saying Once you go over 90 Your battery just drops Oh really? Well I've never got 90 I just mean like you know

I'm always going over You're going 50 and a 30 Is that this Ham-Huntz? Oh Going 50 15 No, drive slow. We want to drive slow, so 15 and a 30.

By the way, that's much more dangerous. Nobody talks about that. Driving 15 and a 30 is more dangerous than driving 50 and a 30. Yeah. If you are that person just on the highway driving slow, I'm going to crash into you. No, I used to, like, when I was earlier, my driving, like, always going to the right lane, like, always going to be driving, like, so, like, I'm in no rush. But now I'm, like, comfortable, so I just, like, you know, I'm moving groove.

And you got places to fucking beat. I don't understand. I don't understand people who are just like, oh, yeah, I don't care how long it takes me. Do you not have a job? Do you not have a life? Do you not have anybody waiting on you? No, but I just, I always try and like leave myself enough time.

You know, that's the other thing. Yeah, but then you can't always get more time. No, but you shouldn't always be in a rush. I also can't live like that, like always being in a rush. So you're not in a rush, but you can gain time back. Yeah, I'm all about gaining time back. So you leave early, okay? You left yourself an hour and a half to get to Disney on Ice.

even though you only needed 40 minutes, right? You could have gotten there in 30, and then you have 10 extra minutes. Just enjoy your life. I'm so sick of driving. I don't want to drive anymore. I want to get there. Well, I just started driving, so, like, I'm okay.

And I also, the Tesla is not good for, like, long range driving, like Orlando. You have to charge along the way. But for, like, daily driving in the suburbs, it's like, it's perfect. And where you, like, just charge every night. You don't even have to charge every night. It's great for that.

It's wonderful for daily driving. Yeah, but I'm glad you agree. Like, it's easy to really go. fast. Oh, it's a go-cart. But like when I drive other cars, I'm very aware of my speed. Not a go-cart, a golf cart. Same thing. But yeah, it is a golf cart because it's electric. So easy. Yeah. But golf cart's pretty much have like a 25 miles per hour cap. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Okay, go-car. I go back to go-kart. Yeah. So I guess we'll get the harder, the harsh arse ripping from Claudia tomorrow. But today, I don't know, Justin Timer. I actually think the video, like,

sort of just makes the whole thing seem like not as big of a deal. I thought it was going to be like this crazy video and he's so drunk. He's just like, I guess we don't even know how drunk he is. I do sort of wish he took the breathalyzer test because maybe he wasn't that drunk, but I feel like maybe he declined it because he was that drunk. He needs a better publicist if they didn't want that video released. No, but it's, it's. That video made everything so much better for me.

Yeah, yeah. Like if I'm his publicist, I'm ecstatic to see when he made the joke about the race and they put him down his white. Like, that's funny. The whole thing. It's just like you're relatable, you're personable. I feel bad for you. Yeah. That's a publicist's dream versus saying, I don't want to release the video.

We're suing to not have it. I thought he was going to do something crazy. I thought he was running naked. The cops. I thought he was running naked in the streets. And like they didn't want it out there like his naked body. Exactly. Crazy.

Yeah. While screaming, I'm Justin Timberlake, bye, bye, bye. Like, no. No. No. Do you hear that? Are you hungry? My stomach.

I have a macro bar. I guess I am hungry, but I'm trying not to eat so early. I'm up eight pounds. Since? In seven days. What? What'd you do wrong? I'm switching from Zepound back to OZempec.

You and Claudia. I didn't love, no. And your GLP wars. By the way, there were some real mental side effects with Zepound. I didn't like the way that it made me feel. How was it making you feel? Like sad. Isn't that weird?

Oh my God, that's sad because you're not a sad. I know. And I went off and I'm like, oh my God, I feel so much better. And now I'm back and bubbly. I know. The idea of you being sad. I know. So like I'm waiting on my fucking Ozempic.

If these people would ever send it to me, I was about to call them whores. I guess I called them whores. If these people would ever send me in, I can go back on it. It sounds like going through withdrawal rage. Well, my stomach, you heard that, right? Yeah. My stomach's like, I'm me hungry. Would you rather be.

Feed me. Fat, fat, Boy, feed me. He's not like, Harry, when he's hungry, he's like, Mr. Tummy is very hungry. I'm with Harry. Would you rather, it begs the question, would you rather be fat and happy or skinny and sad? I'd rather be skinny and happy. No, that's an option with Ozempic.

But, okay, but I asked you a question. I would 100% rather be fat and happy. Okay. If you don't have your brain, you're fucked. Yeah. Seriously. If you don't have your positive outlook on light, walk outside, see the sun shining, and know it's going to be a great day. Bless God, bless my family, then I don't want any of them. No, that's the right answer. I was hoping that that's what you would say.

Yeah. No, you can't, like, skinny and unhappy. What wants that? So you're going back on Ozmpic. Back on the Big O. And while we wait for the horse to send it to you, you gained eight pounds. Yeah, I'm doing my best. Like yesterday, I had to really restrain myself from eating the nachos at Disney on Ice. I was like, no nachos for me. And maybe I had a better eating thing. No, but like I got home, my day's done eating. I go into the fridge, I eat a pint of halo top.

I know it's only 400 calories, but like, why did I do that? I don't need this to turn into overeaters anonymous. What's our next story? Our next story is over a second story. Bad Ben, bad. Mr. Tummy is very hot. It's a good invention. You reach into the fridge and there's like an automatic and that just hits you bad.

Oh my gosh. Okay. Our next story and update in literally the biggest news that's ever happened, Taylor Frankie Paul. TFP. And the bad story. It's a sick fucking name. Oh.

It is pretty iconic. And the fact that we all, we all take the time to say all three. TFP. Names. We have an abbreviated. She's not even Taylor. She's not Taylor Paul. She's Taylor Frankie Paul.

It's a sick name. It's pretty iconic. But The Bachelorette, I mean, there's just so much news since this weekend. Where do I begin? The premiere was replaced with American Idol rerun. It was supposed to premiere last night. Instead, American Idol ran a rerun. She has temporarily lost custody of her two-year-old ever amid the ongoing domestic assault

investigation. She had responded to a fan advice and her to stay-off social media. The men of her season are being considered for Batcham Paradise. Where do you want to start? Why aren't they release? this episode or why aren't they releasing the season because of the video yeah like why but like why can't i see why can't i see the season oh because they don't want a platform they already did they knew it okay but actually this is interesting they knew everybody knew that that video existed everybody

knew that there was domestic violence and everybody knew that she threw bar stools because now if you watch the first season like in the first early episodes the girls are talking about they're like Taylor's a liability for mom talk. Like, brands might not want to work with them. They think we're all throwing bar stools. So, like, they all knew what had happened. I think anyone closer was not a secret in the police investigation. She has now, two clips have resurfaced of her talking about it on podcasts.

Like sharing the story, she was on two different podcasts where she tells the story of what happened. It's what we see in the video. Of course, seeing in a video is much more upset than just hearing her recounted. Like hearing the crying and the daughter. And it's really unforgivable. but a couple things. So this video came out. They pulled the season because they're not going to be like associated with a person like this,

even though they cast her knowing full well. Knowing that they were associating themselves with a person like this that went completely against everything that the franchise should stand for. Right. You are literally platforming a woman with a history of X. She's currently with an X in a toxic relationship, multiple children, multiple guys. Like how are you the Bachelorette? Yeah.

No, no, but then she was, and like, everyone was really here. Most people were really here for it, like, you know, that it's a turn, like a new leaf, and it'll be very exciting, and she's single. And they were just excited that Hulu's owned by ABC and that they could promote it in the show. Yeah, no, we were excited. I was excited about it. Yeah, because it's so, because we're watching Mormon wives and they're juicing us up. Yeah.

They're like showing us. It was the greatest cross promo ever. Like they're getting really good at this. They did the same thing with traders where we had the Olympics, which are shown on NBC. and we have these two figure skaters that are on traitors, and they're cross-promoting each other. I want to watch the Olympics because I want to watch these people. You're watching the Olympics.

You're going to watch traders. It's the same thing with Mormon wives. So what it seems like, though, is last week, filming was paused for secret lives of Mormon wives because of, like, domestic situations between Taylor and Dakota. Yeah. And all of the women refused to film with her and film period. Apparently, early in March, they had a call with Hulu.

like flagging that there's like really bad behavior going on between Taylor and Dakota and it's like a liability and they don't want to be, they don't want to be a part of it and they don't want to film. So they all decided to take a break from filming. When was this? Last week. Last week was the break and then two, three weeks ago was that call. It was like a Zoom call. Some of the information from the call has come out and like pretty much the head of Hulu was like, we don't care. Like they were like, they're like we don't want to know. And like there were insinuation. that it was about like domestic abuse and the child. So they pause filming and then a couple days later this video comes out, this old video.

However, I'm starting to believe that more stuff is going to come out and that's why they pulled the season. More recent stuff is going to come out of things that have been going on in the last few months. One of the husbands, like his DMs, he was responding to a fan of like, why aren't you supporting Taylor your wives wouldn't have careers if it wasn't for her? like everyone supported to me like not everyone but you know why aren't you supporting her and he was pretty much like we just found out a bunch of stuff this was jace who said this which i have to talk about that too um do you know what happened he got astray from you

i got astray i'm like in this battle that i don't want to be in the way i can you started it like i'm just like responding to this guy's just like in the corner doing nothing and you just like your bow and arrow and just shot him right in the head. He's just like so sad. Just, that's not. Okay, wait. So he responded to this fan being like, we just found out so much more.

It's unforgivable. Like there's more, like, basically that there's more stuff, child abuse allegations, domestic violence, and now they're at a point of no return. So it's not just about the 20, 23, 23 video and I don't think that's why even though how could ABC have seriously aired that season yesterday when that video just came out and like that video was the most upsetting thing that most people have ever seen on the internet it's terrible but even watching Mormon wives I was thinking

to myself when they're about to go to the bachelorette and she just like doesn't give a fuck like where her kids are she's just like alone in her room as her mom and children leave get on a plane without her like the whole thing is just so weird and you're yeah watching this like what kind of mother are you yeah and like how are you putting you're putting i don't know what you're putting first is it the show is it that's also i mean in general one of the problems that i have with this show is just the amount of uh putting the show before it seems like putting the show before your family yeah um but that's besides the point yeah she just like is an like she's always been like a a loose canon and so disney hired a lewd or abc

hired a loose cannon to be the Bachelorette because they need views. They need rating. They needed a spike. They knew exactly what they were doing. Yeah, they were going to choose this like crazy toxic person, hopefully redeem her, give her like a beautiful fairy tale ending, which I think could have been possible. But after the season of Mormon lives that we just watch, she literally slept with him before leaving for the Bachelorette. You don't go on the Bachelorette to heal and get over someone. You go when you are healed and over someone and ready for the next thing. So like even if this video hadn't come out this week, it was going to be really hard to swallow this season of the Bachelorette, like, knowing that she's literally on the phone with Dakota as she gets

out of the limo to start the season. Like, that's not what The Bachelorette is really about. Like, there is still sort of like this mystique that it's a person looking for a real long lasting relationship with someone who was ready for that. So before the video, the season was kind of doomed, but they were going to get their ratings that they wanted and the ad dollars and all of that. So I'm sure that's really all that mattered to them. But now they have none of that. There are millions in the hole that the tens of millions that they spent on the season. Cast members from her show are like talking about suing ABC, you know, these desperate guys who thought they were about to have their big shot. Oh yeah, also that. Like you're suing because

you couldn't find love? No, they're suing. No, I know. Yeah. Like that's not the point of the show. Or at least pretend, like at least let us think that that's the point of the show. Otherwise, change the narrative of the show. Yeah. The show is not supposed to be a too hot to handle or the show is not supposed to be a love island. It's supposed to be there's an eligible bachelor or a bachelorette and we're trying to help them find their suitor. But like if the goal is just like the guys to get Instagram followers and the show to get ratings because they put like a crazy person on it, like just change the show.

Well, I think that those are two goals. And then another goal is to have find a relationship that's lasting because I think the more time that goes on and the more failed bachelor relationships that come out of it, the more it chips away at like the concept of her the show. But like anytime there is a successful relationship, I think that gives them like years more of legs. Sure. Like this really works.

Sure. And I think there's been a couple recent, like Joey is still with his winner. Who else? Who's Joey? I didn't watch his season, but he's one of like the more recent people. I don't know who else is still with their winner from like recent memory. Sure. Then, of course we know the OGs.

The OGs. The tried and trues. Yeah, when the show should have stopped. It's like Shaquille O'Neal. I love bringing this up. It's like Shaquille O'Neal on the Phoenix Suns. Did you know he played for the Phoenix Suns? No.

Did you know he played for the Boston Celtics? No. You know Shaquille O'Neal on the Lakers and on the heat. That's it. Sure. And you're supposed to stop playing eventually. Oh, I'm not the one to ask. You're in your prime.

You're killing it. First of all, players like can't go out in their prime. I don't know why. Like Tom Brady. Sure. But I do feel like for. television shows, it's like, why would we go out in our prime? Even if next season we make less money, we still made money.

Like, let's keep going until there's no more money to be made. Or we can make a new better show and give it legs. Yeah. No, I think the premise is still decent. I think they were on to something with the idea of casting Taylor, Frankie Paul, but it was a miss because she's not ready and she's not now appropriate to be. And I guess then she wasn't either because all this information was out there. And we did all know that there was like a domestic violence.

but like we didn't know the details so it was easier to sort of brush it to the side but now that we know the details we cannot yeah we cannot we can't watch it we can they can't air it we cannot we like it's over do we think he is and given the idea that like there's more going on right now and that she saw us like and it has to do with ever because when the pause happened last week the rumors were that there was like child abuse involving ever the two year old but the video that we saw was not him that was her other that was a different child of hers so like there's still could be more current allegations of child abuse. It's awful.

It's really, really awful. And if that's true... I mean, she looked very fucked up in that video. Oh, yes, she was. She, like... So she just, like... I won't insinue me, but that's terrible. Yeah.

That's terrible. He is always just, like, portrayed as, like, a cheating scumbag. Mm-hmm. But, like, he's always... also complicit clearly with the way that she treats her children, right? If he's in the same room as her while she's doing things like that, or was that, or is he, like, I'm trying to figure out, is he just like a bad guy that cheats? You know what? And thinks it's like funny. He wears a red flag hat. He's just like a douche. Or is he like a, like a bad, bad guy? So it's really hard to know because

like my assumption is that he's like a really bad guy who's like driven this woman really crazy and like, you know, they're both abusive. But the point that's been made that, like, we've not seen, like, actual abusive behavior from him. Like, what he says on the show, it's like, we can sort of read between the lines. And I feel like that's what we're doing. But, like, what if we're just totally off? Like, on the show, he says, I want Taylor.

All he, his issue is, like, cheating. Yeah. And he definitely has, like, a history of substance abuse. So who knows what was happening before he was clean. Sure. But, like, he's just a lying cheater. He's just a lying cheater. Is it more than that?

Bad. That's not being complicit with child abuse. We've heard the girl say that he sabotages every big moment for her, every premiere for her. So then did he leak this video? So that's also conflicting. I assume that he leaked it to TMZ or at least like flag that it exists. And then they filed like in the Freedom of Information Act because it's in the file of their court documents. So that's public information like for them to have gotten the video. But then I've also seen that that case is sealed because it has to deal with a minor.

So they couldn't have gotten that video from the court and that someone had to give it to them. So I've literally seen everyone. argue everything different. Everyone has a different legal opinion on the matter, so I don't know what's right. That's amazing. I would love to know how they got that video. Even if they did petition for it, who, if anyone told them that it's there. Yeah. We're reminded them. Because anyone would, like, if you really dug deep into the police report, like you would know that there was a video, but why did they have the idea to do that now? Interesting. I don't know, but I do need to address my beef with the Matthews family.

Because it's like gaining traction. As you know, Jase was my weaning of the week because I felt like, I feel like he's like really like critical of his wife at a very sensitive time in her life. So I made it my weenie of the week because they literally got separated. She's a two month old and three other children and she's going to live on her own. Like what?

Yeah. And then we posted the clip of the weaning of the week and Michaela commented, I hate this. Now I just want to say, I stand by what I said. Like I did not enjoy. watching that and I think he's way like to impete like I don't know their marriage but just from what I'm seeing like the two the woman moving out of the house with the two month old like I'm I'm I don't like that however I don't know how this like set my mind we should not have clipped that for ween of the

week because like if you don't know this show and you don't know like what we need of the week is and we're just like having fun and we're recapping shows and it's like really not that deep like but if you just saw that clip like you it just comes off like just so much harsher than it does on this show. And like, I forgot that I don't like to do that. If you listen to the whole hour plus long episode and you listen to our recaps all week, like it lands so much softer for him to be my meaning of the week. It's just like sort of a running joke. Considering he's obviously not the villain in the show, there are so many worse people, but for me to pick out the the weenie in the corner who I don't think is being supportive enough of his wife, like it's just

funny. But when you clip it like just for social media, and that's my bad, it seems really harsh. So I can apologize for that. Though I stand by what I said, like, what is your wife doing moving out of the house with the two-month-old? Yeah. I've been we need the week like a hundred times. Yeah. I don't even know what I ever did for it. Like, we need the week is like a fun, soft thing. It is. But if you don't follow the show and you think we're just like crowning people we need like, you don't realize that it's like really not that serious. And I think taken out of context, it comes off a lot harsher. And usually we don't clip it. So I don't know. We were just laughing so hard. We were like clip. But I didn't realize like what that would look like to someone who's not.

a toaster yeah well whatever yeah but it's just like funny that it's main news I was on my just my own Instagram no it's funny I saw it's a huge clip that's why like you're saying like we shouldn't clip it and like it kind of should have no like the clip crushed I was just funny I was just scrolling my Instagram imagine this and they see like from a reality TV recap account I saw the same like a screenshot of our clip with Michaela's comment on it I didn't know that she had commented on our post and I was like, is that me? Like, I was in shock. I was in shock. I literally sent it to my group chat.

I'm like, this is my worst nightmare. This is my worst nightmare. Like, it could stop me from doing the job. Like, I hate when I talk about anyone good or bad, obviously bad is worse. And they see it. Yeah. What? What are you doing here?

I know. What are you doing here? I know. But it's my fault for putting that out into the Instagram internet. You also know that like the Mormon wives are like, they're flooded with toasters. So like whatever you say about them, it's probably going to make it to them.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I really wasn't thinking that many steps ahead and that's on me. Yeah. Sorry to the Matthews about that. Are you ready for our next story? We are.

Some more drama. Yeah, what do we got? Chapel Rhone. She bores me. We can talk about it though. We have to talk about it again. Another one I wish, not that I'm. Are we going to talk about JFK Jr?

No. It's the worst show. I don't watch it because it's not good. What? It was good. It got bad. Okay. I don't really, yeah, it's not, I don't miss it.

I got like out of Hulu and then we went back and I just like don't miss it. It was a great show that literally, like, I think the writers like just left. I scrolled on my phone for 20 minutes. I came back. We're in the same scene. They're still. Oh, wow. Okay, we don't have to talk about it.

But like, if you watch that show, it's absolute drek. And Chapel Rhone is a disgusting human. Yeah. So Chapel Rone is speaking out following an alleged incident with the soccer players. young daughter. This story is very layered. So Georgineho is a soccer player who was in, where was this, in Sao Paulo. They were in a hotel in Sao Paulo where Chap is performing. And Georgineho is a very big soccer player and he was with his wife who shares a child with Jude Law, coincidentally. His wife's name's Catherine Harding and the daughter is an 11-year-old named Ada Law. They were at the hotel

breakfast where they saw Chapo Roan walk by. And so the daughter, who's a big fan of chapel went to chapel's table just walk past to like confirm it was her and then went back to her table like oh my god freaking out you know how that is then a security guard comes over to george gienho's table and like berates the young daughter for quote harassing chapel like that that's not what you should do but mind you the girl did not ask for a photo did not say anything just like walk past saw her favorite singer and like went back to her table giddy um jrgingho posted to social media like lacing into her into chapel for treating her fans this way because the girl did nothing wrong she's an 11-year-old she was excited, like why send security on her to scare her?

She was crying and it was just a mess. Everyone has since come down on Chapel for, you know, being so nasty to her fans and the children and you, like, these are the people who support you. Chapel made a video from her bed rolling around laughing saying that that was not her security guard who did that. She had no idea that this happened. She didn't, like, send anyone to say anything to the girl. She didn't, the girl didn't ask for anything from her.

She didn't even notice the girl. And that was not her security guard who did that. And now what? I mean, I've hated chaperone for quite some time. Yeah, me as well. Because Pink Pony Club was a fucking banger. I love that song. Okay?

Like I was dancing to it. I was like, Pink Pony Club. I'm gonna keep them dancing at the Pink Pony Club. I was in on the Pink Pony Club. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, she became just like crazy pro pally. And I just like, I was just like, what are you? What is happening here?

Like how? And ever since then, I've just, like, not been a fan of hers. I'll still hear it. It's like my same plight with Kanye. Like, Kanye's on in the club. I'm like, oh, man, this is a bop. Yeah, but it's, no, it's different because, like, Kanye has so many years of songs that are, like, memories in your life.

Yeah. Like, decades worth of songs. Like, at the same time that songs of hers became popular was the same time I didn't like her. I've never really had one joyful moment with her. Got it. Where I was able to listen to her music without any thing. I understand that. I understand that. I had maybe like a month with Pink Pony Club that was awesome and whatever. If you're not nice to your fans and multiple people are talking about it, which means that she's not nice to her fans, then you don't deserve to be famous. It's not always the most pleasant encounter. Like Josh and I joke about this on good guys all the time that like it especially happens to me. Like somebody will approach me and say, oh my God, my wife's such a huge fan of your wife. I don't know who you are, but like, such a huge fan,

do you mind saying hi on behalf of your wife? Or, like, they're always not pleasant encounters, is what I'm trying to say. It doesn't mean that you're rude. Like, you're, the only reason that you have the job that you have is because of the people that support you. Yeah. Including that 11-year-old girl.

Like, you are like a Gen Z phenom, which is even more of a problematic issue with her politics, whatever. But whatever. But whatever. Back to the matter at hand. Like, if you've been following trouble, this is not surprising. Like she yells at everyone.

The thing is like I feel like she has no plausible deniability here because like we just were reporting on her yelling at the fans and the photographers in Paris. She's every red carpet she goes on. She's yelling at everyone for taking her picture even though she stepped on to a red carpet to get her picture taken. Like she's just angry towards anyone who like wants to engage with her in like a fan sort of way. So like when we heard the story, no one was like,

Chappell would never do that. We were like, oh my gosh, Chapel. So I don't know if I believe her, but I don't know her well enough to know if she seems like a crazy person. Is she a liar? I don't know. Is that who security is that if not hers?

What is it? Breakfast security? Like who's going up to her? But it doesn't matter. Like there's enough people coming out saying that you're mean to your fans. Right. So if it wasn't this exact incident. Or it's like maybe she didn't send security on the little girl.

But like she knows, like her security knows that like she doesn't want people around her coming up to her. So like maybe they acted on Chapel's wishes without her having to like send it on from a pie on this one. You know what I mean? I do. But like I don't believe the idea that. was in chapel security, who is it? Yeah. This idea in general that, like, of course celebrities deserve boundaries.

I know you're not watching JFK Jr., which, again, like, you should watch it. Like, it was a good show. It's gone. But now it's all, like, we just got to this episode where Princess Diana had died. Paparazzi was a main reason that she died. Caroline Bissette is having a huge problem with the paparazzi. And I'm watching that, and I'm thinking,

you know, like it would be really nice if celebrity, properties sort of had some space sometimes to just be regular human beings. I have a paparazzi problem. I don't like them. Nothing that she's complaining about has anything to do with an invasion of privacy. It's the opposite. You're putting yourself out there. You're going to the restaurant in Paris during that. You're going to Paris Fashion Week. Yeah. You're going to that you're upset that your fans are there. Yeah. And the photographers are there. You don't like the way that they're like shouting and you just get their photo. She's acting like she's in her home and they are like coming to her door and berating her.

Yeah. She's going to them. I don't feel sorry for you when you go to them. Yeah. If you don't want to be in the public eye, stay home. Yeah. Or like, or don't go to Paris Fashion Week.

Yeah. So this was not a good one for her and she doesn't really have a great track record where we could like believe, give her the benefit of the doubt here that she had nothing to do with this because like what? Yeah. And if she did have nothing to do with this, who was this person? Yeah. I don't know.

The pink pony club. Pink Pony Club, that's your one. It was a really good song. I think there was one. Whenever I hear one, then I'm like, oh, that's good, but then I hear it's shop, but I'm like, oh, I guess, never mind. But there was one that I once heard. It was like super phenomenon.

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I saw this. Oh, you did. I love it. Yeah. It's going to be great. I love a roast. Yeah. What do you think about a live roast?

I think that... I think they've always been live. I was going to say, I thought that the roasts were a lot. Well, no, didn't you go to one with Claudia? Oh, they weren't alive. They weren't live. They weren't live. No, yeah, we went to the roast of Roblo, and it was like months before.

Yeah. And it was horrible. Oh, my God. Being there was so boring. And no, when you went to the red carpet, the red carpet was buzzy. And then, like, the roast didn't come out for a while longer. So then you had, like, it was bifurcated, the buzz. Yes.

And I don't think that's a great idea. But when the original comedy central roasts would happen, were those live? I feel like, I feel like I thought they were. But I don't know. Is this a Netflix thing? This one is Netflix. So I feel like Netflix took on the roast. They were not live.

They're loving live things. But now they're live. I think live. Comedy Central roast were not live. Okay, not live. Okay. Well, I'm excited. A live roast is very exciting.

I'm excited for a live roast. And if it's anything like watching that man climb Kilimanjaro or wherever he climbed, like where I'm just like, oh my God, I can't believe this is live. Is he going to die? It's the same thing. Anything can happen. I can't believe this is live. What the fuck are they going to say?

They can't stop. Is he going to die? I think this is. And I love Shane Gillis. He's so funny. He's so funny. And Kevin Hart is so funny. He is.

And Kevin Hart, like, he, like, him and the Rock have just, like, had this, like, public, hilarious, like, roasting of each other. Like, the Rock will be there. It'll be really fun. It'll be really fun. They're all going to make fun of his height. It'll be great. Yeah.

I'm excited for it. The lineup of comedians who will roast him have not been announced, but I think it's safe to assume the Rock would be there. For sure. I think there are some, like, classic roast people. I think now Nikki Glazer is a classic roast person. She is. She's amazing.

Nikki Glazer, Jeff Ross, the roastmaster. Is he still roastmaster? Well, it sounds like Shane Gillis is the roastmaster. So I also wonder who will join. That will be more surprising. Like, remember when Martha Stewart did just sleeper? And like a snoop dog.

Like, I love when they, like, throw random people in. That's what makes them so funny. So I feel like we'll get some, like, good randoms. Or like Kim Kardashian doing Tom Brady. Yeah. That didn't work out, of course. Funny, though. But good idea.

Good idea. Good idea. Yeah, I'm excited for this. When does it come out? This will be on May 10th. Where? It's going to be live from the Kia Forum in L.A. Damn. On a Sunday night. I'd love to have gone. On May 10th. Yeah. No, I'm just not going to L.A. Yeah.

If it was New York. Even though you love L.A. I do love L.A. I don't want to go there, though. If I'm there, I'm happy as a claim. Yeah. If I'm transported there, the idea of going, the idea of going, the idea of That's how I feel too. It's nice there. I love it there. It's really nice.

I think it's really great. I just don't want to go there. Yeah. But if I'm there, would you ever want to live there? Could you ever live there? I could live part-time anywhere, I think. Oh, you're part-time. I feel very tethered to New York.

Yeah. Very tethered. So it just made you realize like you love New York, but you enjoy other places. Yeah, I could go to L.A. for three months. Yeah. Could I go to L.A. for the rest of my life? No. No.

Nor do I want to. No. Simply because I love New York. not because there's anything wrong with L.A. L.A. is lovely and fun and cool. Most of the United States is fun, lovely, and cool when you really go. Like people, I think I've spoken about this, maybe not with you, but I went to Birmingham, Alabama. Probably like two years ago for Sprits. I was there for three days. This place fucking rocks. Yeah. And then I went to the beach. Do you know that Alabama had beaches? Like literally the Gulf of Alabama. There's like that Florida, Alabama bar, which is the Florida, Alabama. Yeah. The beaches in Alabama are gorgeous. I bring this up to say that the great United States is filled with many a great place to live. It really does. It is. And they're all very different looking, you know. We've got a lot. It's all about your preference. I'm a big weather guy. That's my only gripe with New York. That the weather is just a little bit too inconsistent. I'm loving. I mean, warm weather in Florida, warm weather in California. That's so funny. I like a New York weather.

Interesting. Okay. You prefer cold. I prefer the variety. Barrier. I think variety's overrated. The endless sunshine. You know, I, I, I'm starting to like appreciate it. Imagine your ancestors hearing you complain about endless sunshine. No, I didn't complain. No, but I get it. And now I, now that I'm starting to like just enjoy the endless sunshine, it's like maybe what if it is just sunny all the time? Sunny all the time and then you get to go to snow when you want to. Yeah. It doesn't have to inconvenience you. get to go to like, I can't wait, like New York spring is the best. Yeah.

New York fall. The allergies, are you nervous about your allergies? I feel like I have been having a sneeze. I'm not sure if it's like the sickness that's going on or like my allergy starting. Last year I went to. You take Flonase? I take Zyrtec. Yeah.

I would highly recommend not taking Zyrtec. Oh, right. There was like bad information. But I don't take it that much. And also remember you were commenting on brain fog? Mm-hmm. How you like are looking for like brain mouth, whatever as a part of an ad. what causes brain fog documented.

Zyrtec. It's like a lower dose of Benadryl, and when you take it, it's non-drowsy, but the drowsy piece, the little bit of drows, affects your brain. It gave me horrible brain fog.

Also, Flonase. It's literally, you put it up your nose. But you shouldn't take... A couple of sprays. What are those can't? Antihistamines

when you're breastfeeding because it, like, will dry up your supply. Makes sense. So, I probably wasn't going to take antihistamies this season of allergies. I was just going to suffer. If Flonase doesn't sponsor me after the amount of times that I've said Flonase.

But you still haven't convinced me. But you should. It will. It's not antihistamine. It's not an antihistamine. It goes up your nose. It's a quick spray. And it just makes everything in these sinuses just feel a lot better.

I'll think about it. Yeah, Flonase is good. And then I also put an eye drops. Okay. Because I get a chi-i-i. Yeah, me too. Okay. All right.

I got a regimen for you. My God. We're going to bring you in to my homeopathic shop. Are you ready for her with the final story? I am. Well, what is it? Well, you're not going to care. Maya Hawk will be starring in Ethan Hawke's daughter.

No. I don't know who either of them are. She's from Stranger Things, and she's in everything now. What does she look like? I know Stranger Things. She's not really distinct looking. No idea. That doesn't like change what, yeah.

Nope. But she will be starring in God of the Woods, which was one of the biggest books of last year. We read it for the Redheads. Yeah. just like the redheads always being on the cusp of culture. And she will be starring in the adaptation for Netflix. And God of the Woods was one of our best books of that year. We all loved it.

And it's a really great book. And even though I'm not like a huge my hawks whirley, I think she'll be great in this. Like, I think it's a good choice. And I'm excited for the book to become a movie. It's also like Taylor was like reading it in one of her videos that she posted. So it's just like a very buzzy book. It's the next big thing.

So you'll be seeing a lot of it, the God of the Woods. Not to brag, but you know, my book is also becoming a movie. movie. Which is? The marvelous creatures. Where are we going? Oh, who's in it? I don't know.

Do you want to find out? Sure. Sure. What is it? Remarkably. Remarkably great creatures. Right. Why can't I remember the name of this fucking book?

Remarkably bright creatures. Okay. So Tova? Yes. Will be played by Sally Field. Ooh. Good cast. Cameron.

Who? Lewis Pullman. Do you know who that is? Yes, I do. Do you watch lessons in chemistry with Claudia? Yes, I did. He's great. He's dating Katya Herbert.

You just had me at Sally Field. My God. Where's Robin Williams when you need him? He'd be so good in this as the octopus. So no one else is someone that I can recognize. But here are some things. I mean Sally's. Sally can carry it through for you.

You know Sally's my birthday buddy, right? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, she's my birthday buddy. Yeah. So I know a lot about her, the flying nun. Oh, I feel like Claudia. Alfred Molina, I know. He was Octa Man.

or whatever in Spider-Man. Wow, he does a lot of stuff with eights. Oh, maybe he's like you. He's a big eight guy. Laura Harris, I don't know these people, but Sally Field, such a great casting. You think she'll be a great tova? I think she'll be a great tova.

Ooh, I'm excited. So it's set to come out in 2026. That's this year. Yeah. I got to finish the book before the movie comes out. You do, but you want to know something once you start reading? I'm not going to like it as much, right? You're going to hate the movie.

That's what I hear. I think the only one who's ever done it, right? Harry Potter. Is Harry Potter. Otherwise, if you've read the book, you will not like the adaptation. And if you haven't read the book, you will like the adaptation. Yeah. Okay.

All right. I'm excited. Cautiously optimistic, but I'm excited. Yeah, it's kind of like the curse of being a reader. Sorry. Got it. But it's like, look, you've gotten this like weeks long positive experience as opposed to like a two-hour movie. Totally.

No, and now I get to watch a two-hour movie and critique it. Like, worst case, worst case I watch, you get to critique it. You get to say the movie was not as good. The book was better than the movie. Way better. Snobbish. Nigel with the Bree. That must be Nigel with the Brie.

He didn't think the movie was as good as the book either. Oh, my God, Nigel. You know what else I started this weekend before I let you go? Age of Attraction. I don't know what it is. Okay, it's this new dating show on Netflix. Oh, I've heard of it. It's hosted by Natalie Viol and Nick Viol, who I love.

Yeah, they're great. I was so happy to see them on my screen, like, doing big things. And also, they have an age up. actually the best advertisement for the show because when I'm watching the show, I'm like, age mage. And the whole concept is like you don't know the person's age, but like you can see age, more or less. So it's not like this big mystery, but some people are either a lot younger or older than they look. So there has been some crazy age gaps. And I guess like with Nick and Natalie, if I was just looking at them, like they don't look so different ages. They look like 10 years

apart. Yeah. That's what I would have thought. They're 18 years apart, which is actually like quite, that's a lot of years. Quite something. So it is. Yeah. Yeah, there's something to the premise and the couples, couples that I've seen, like, unvalued ages so far, like, are pretty wide in age gap. What's it called age of attraction? You said that. Age of attraction. So, the premise is, like, they're on this retreat with a lot of singles. You couple with whoever you want. You spend a lot of days. You go on dates. At the end of the retreat, you go to the promise room and make a, like, commit to each other,

tell each other your age. And then they put you in the real world. Love is blind style. Like, can you guys make it? Okay. So it's and you have to meet each other's family And like there are some like Your husband loving it He loves a dating show He won't watch it with me

What? I think he saw a lot of clips of it But he's like the biggest love is blind fan Why didn't he like the show? I said we're watching a new dating show on Netflix Like you're sat He was like no I saw a lot of clips of people Revealing their ages

I think it was like spoiled for him And then he wasn't interested I know it was surprising I was like why am I watching this then It's so funny He would love it But he should try Claudia and I just started watching

And finished Chip and Joanna Gaines They were doing a lakehouse. They were doing their own lakehouse. I didn't love the style of the lakehouse, honestly. They made it very modern zen. So what's that like restoration hardware guide? No, I don't know how to describe it to you.

There were a lot of greens. When I think of a lakehouse, I think of, or what I'd like in a lakehouse, I think of like mountain. Mountain, wood. I love wood. Wood in the mountains. That's my thing. Cabin vise.

Oh, is that why you sent me that house yesterday? Yeah, I was just like thinking about things. Oh, okay, because I really was still waiting on clarification. Why did I send that? Why did you send that? Yeah. Is this the lake house? That's a nice kitchen.

Lake house. That is a lovely kitchen. Yes, this is the lake house. You gotta keep scrolling. It just didn't do it for me. That was a lovely kitchen. Okay, these are the outdoor spaces. Okay.

No, this is really beautiful. And you know what this is? It's like what's going to be popular next. Totally. You know what I mean? It's ahead of its time a little bit. I should clarify. I love Chip and Joanna Gaines.

I love Fixer Upper. It's such a wonderful show. I've actually been watching her. Do you watch her cooking show? I love her cooking show. I think, but do they still make new episodes? I don't know. Because at one point I had seen every episode.

I don't watch anything new. Like, I could be this show that I just watched could be easily be 10 years old and I wouldn't know it. So what were, what platform were you on where you saw it? Discovery Plus? One of the big ones. Warned. Max. One of the big ones.

Maxi. Let's go home. Max. Hulu. Maxwell. Netflix. One of the big ones. I even watch,

I think I'm the number one watcher of Samsung TVs. Me as well. Yeah, I watch Rachel Ray, not 30 minute meals, minutes under. Yeah, 30 under 30. 30 under 30.

Oh man, Rachel. Yeah, Claudius briefed us. She's briefed you. But what do you watch of Joanna's cooking show? I watched her make dumplings with her family. I watched her make, I don't even remember. Have you seen her vibe? No.

Oh yeah, she makes a fierce baklava. Yeah, I really like her cooking show. Where does she learn to make baklava? So she, um... Is she of Jewish roots? Yeah, I didn't... It's a Greek dish. Yeah, I was thinking, Babka.

No, she didn't make a bobka. I was like, where did you learn vodka? Yeah, baklava is definitely not Jewish, and it's so delicious. Oh, oh, I love a bobca. Baclava, especially when it's nice and nutty and honey. Yeah, you should look for that episode. It's like you could make it. You know, you can make bachlava.

It looked really hard, but you could do it. I could totally make it. Let's vlog. I've been making my own lobna. I know you're not a lobana fan. Oh, yeah, no, I've heard about your lobana. I've been making my own cheese. Really delicious.

I've been making my own cheese. That must be Nigel with the brie. Really good. I should make my own brie. Nigel. Yeah. Thank you so much, Ben, for joining us. Thank you for having me.

This is wonderful. This was great. What a time. I might look forward to discussing these stories tomorrow with Claudia. So if you felt like we were too, we went too easy on some people, don't worry. I don't think we did. I think it was appropriate. I'll be very curious to hear her thoughts on Justin's Millick.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We definitely missed a rant about Chapel. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. She's fierce.

She's a fierce woman. Claudia. Claudia. Yeah, yeah. No, she just went off about Chapel about the paparazzi. And like that was before like the 11 year old was made to cry. So I think it would be even stronger reaction. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, thank you. very much for having me. As always, listen to the good guys as well. It's a wonderful podcast. After he lives us into every single episode of the toast. Yeah, it's just extra filler, you know, just like you're looking for your day. What's going on on G. We're having a great time. We have a great guest today. We have Andrew Santino on today, who I love, he's hysterical. We recently had, oh, we had an episode that you're going to love. I think Claudia told me. Yeah. We had Spencer Pratt. Yeah, she told me on the show. It was literally mayoral. Like, we were

interviewing him. It was 60 Minutes style and his platform. Wow. Yeah. He's running on some good things. But she told us you forgot to ask about Massinger. Yeah, but like, because he's the mayor. Because he's the mayor. I wonder if he'll win. He should win. Yeah. Like, he's running on the right things for L.A. He's a man of the people. He has like no other agenda other than like wanting the city to be amazing. Exactly. Like that's a good place to start. The only problem with what he's doing is he's going to split votes. He's running as an independent. He's giving Cona Curtis Sliwa.

And he's going to split votes. But do you think he'll drop out after, like if it gets to that point? No. Unlike Sliwa? No, he's in it for the long haul. Who's the Republican candidate? I have no idea.

And then that Karimbasis is a Democrat. I just know that he calls her Karambasura, which I think is like rat or something. Basura means garbage. There you go. Karim Basura. That's what he calls her. He's so funny.

This episode with Spentra Prap was so good. He's so funny. All that I know. When is that come out? No, like maybe tomorrow or something. Maybe this Thursday. Okay. It's soon.

Okay. And so, yeah, if you live in L.A., like, we should be voting for Spencer Brett. I, like, what do I know? L.A. elections. I don't know anything. I just, he made some good points. And there was like a, there was like some really fucked up shit going on in L.A.

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Only today. That's it. That's it going on. Thank you, Lish. We'll see you when we see you. I will see you very soon. Well, I'll see you very soon. Oh, you mean good guys.

Oh, no, I'll see you very soon. I just meant it in general. There was nothing like, there was nothing underline. It wasn't a threat? No, I'll see you. It wasn't a threat. Okay. I'll see you very soon.

Or you're going to keep Claudia sticks so you can come back tomorrow. No, I have my, was my Guy herbs delivered? Anybody know? Oh, God. It's so bad. I hope that they just left it outside. If anybody gives a tickle on your throat, this is not sponsored. Guy Herb's quick defense.

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Oh. You think she's going to take echinacea? No, she's not going to. But she's drinking a lot of water. I saw a hilarious video. I'll send it to you where like the wife is being chased around the house, she mentioned to her husband that she was sick, and he's chasing her around with a bottle of water.

Oh, that's funny. Which is so me. You got to hydrate. She's doing chicken soup. She's doing tea. If she's not better by today, tomorrow, then she's really fucking sick. Did you make her chicken soup? I wanted to make her chicken soup, and then she ordered it from the deli.

Did she like it? No. No, you got to do homemade. Homemade. Otherwise, it's too oily. Yeah, it's kind of yucky. Yeah, there's too much schmaltz, too much chicken fat. Yeah.

Too schmaltzy. Is that's what schmaltz is? Yeah, chicken fat. The more you know. The more you know. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast. We love you so much and we will see you tomorrow. Love you.

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