The Toast - DNPM: Friday, December 6th, 2024
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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the Toastin' Happy Friday that really feels
like a Friday because the theme of today is leisure.
We had a leisurely morning.
We took ourselves out to breakfast.
We're recording at 1 20.
We never do this.
But Turtey's not even being honest and we're not being honest by saying good morning, millennials.
It's so true.
It is 1 30.
We never record this late.
This episode is not coming out in the morning, But we've actually been very busy this morning.
We didn't actually just wake up and just say,
screw sisterhood, screw swirling hood.
Speak for yourself, I did.
I woke up this morning and I said, screw sisterhood.
Literally never done that.
We had work stuff this morning,
which pushed us back to record late, which was a choice.
Choice.
But like to act like we actually have had a leash
in the morning when we're seriously broke down.
So true.
We're so broke down. we couldn't do video,
even though we maybe should have
because we look actually really cute, we're matching.
We're in pajamas, but today's episode is audio only,
so if you're searching YouTube, I apologize,
but not only do we look disgusting
in a very cute sort of way,
but we also have Gizmo on Sunday,
and I kind of need to preserve my on-camera flair
and my glamorous celebrity je ne sais quoi for The Swirly's Coming to See Us Sunday
at the Hard Rock Live Seminole, Fort Lauderdale.
It has like a thousand names in place.
Hard Rock Live Seminole, Hollywood Casino.
Oh no, not Orlando.
Fort Lauderdale, like I don't even, no it's Hollywood.
Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale.
Florida.
Comma what county?
USA.
Yeah.
Broward or Miami-Dade?
That's the thing.
We don't even know where we're going on Sunday,
but we're so excited.
So this episode is giving real Friday energy
cause there's no video and we're just kind of lax, you know?
We're in our jammies.
We are, we're in matching robes.
Jammas.
Yeah, we would be cute for video,
but let's just keep talking about how cute we are
and how much you guys are missing out.
We're already starting with so many excuses,
so much justification.
It's Friday, I feel like everybody just starts
with lies and excuses.
Lies, lies, lies.
Look into my eyes, eyes, eyes.
I think we harmonized.
I think we might have.
I think we might have.
So it's very much a Friday over here.
Oh, we are in person together.
If you guys maybe aren't noticing,
Jackson and I are both in Florida,
because obviously I headed down last night
for our show on Sunday.
I thought I'd spend a couple of days with my family.
Good decision, honestly, on all parts.
And Ben, of course,
I think I told everyone this yesterday,
Ben, of course, was flying down.
This is so crazy.
Ben was flying down later than us.
He flew down this morning.
And at like eight o'clock, I texted him.
I knew his flight was early in the morning. I wasn't sure when I'm like, Hey, are
you up? Are you at the airport? He missed his flight. And it's funny that he didn't text me
because he knew what I was going to say. When we traveled together, this man like torments me. He
mocks me with like how prepared I am. The fact that I insist, I don't pre-board obviously, but
the second my boarding group is eligible, like I'm the first bitch on that line. Like I take it really seriously for a multitude of reasons.
One, I'm like very anal, yes, too.
I wanna make sure I have enough overhead bin space
because I never check a bag,
but I'm a very anal flyer and he's so lax.
He doesn't mind being the last person on the flight.
Like gate checking, okay.
To me, gate checking is like Armageddon.
It's the worst thing that could ever happen to me.
For a man, it's like free checked bag.
Like he's so crazy.
So he missed his flight.
He didn't wanna tell me
because he makes fun of me all the time.
Meanwhile, have I ever missed a flight
in my entire fucking life?
Yeah, no.
No, so I don't know where he is.
I think he's on his way.
Ben is supposed to be spending the weekend with us here too.
But it did feel good.
Like obviously I wasn't happy that my husband missed his
flight, but it felt really good to...
I know I'm right, but like for it to be so obvious
to him, like think of all the times you've literally,
every time we travel, we fight,
because he's like,
who just sit in the lounge a little bit longer?
No.
No, it feels good to have a lesson learned the hard way.
Yeah, and I don't have to be there for it, you know?
It's by the way, it's so true.
And as someone who'll never first get stage coach of 2019,
when our whole family went to stage coach together,
I don't know why I can't say stage coach.
The thing about stage coach,
there is one flight a day from New York to Palm Springs.
It's so hard to get to.
That's direct.
And we were all going together in the car.
We're all loaded up in the SUV
and we're meeting at Claudia and Ben's apartment
because they live closest to the airport, whatever.
And we're all in the car, bags are packed
and Ben's not out of the apartment yet
and he's in the shower.
Upstairs.
And not only was it such a stressful time,
but we also had a treacherous journey to the airport.
We like took side streets.
It was so much traffic.
So Ben's in the front seat,
like knowing everybody in the back of the car
wants to kill him.
We were all checking luggage and we got there
and they couldn't guarantee that our luggage
would get on the flight.
It might have to get on the next one.
So the entire time on the plane,
we don't know if our luggage with all of our lukes
has made it onto the plane. And it's like, if it hasn't, and we have to go back to the Palm Beach airport tomorrow to if our luggage with all of our looks has made it onto the plane.
And it's like, if it hasn't,
and we have to go back to the Palm Beach airport tomorrow
to get our luggage, but we have one day without anything.
Very stressful.
Thankfully our luggage did make it,
but I just want to say, so I can attest to the fact
that Ben is not a timely traveler.
So then he called me like 20 minutes later,
he's like in the airport, you know,
floundering, doing, wasting time.
And like his day, and I wouldn't have felt bad for him,
except like you said,
it was a lesson that really needed to be learned.
But the day just like kept coming for him.
He's like, I went to Starbucks,
I bought myself like one of those spinach,
feta, egg white wrap things.
I put it in a bag and I'm walking through the airport
and the bag has a huge hole at the bottom of it.
And like my breakfast spills out onto the floor.
I'm like, of course I have sympathy.
You know when you have those days,
like nothing go right and then your breakfast hits the floor.
Seriously, I was so glad.
Like it was important.
The bag was a paid actor.
It was important that he experienced this
completely on his own.
Like he couldn't blame anyone.
Like he set his own alarm.
Cause I wake up, we're going to the airport.
Okay, let's say our flight's at eight.
I'm like, let's wake up at 5.30.
We'll leave here at six.
He thinks that's so crazy.
I would love to know what time he woke up.
Right.
You know? Right. Because I feel so validated
and my measures are definitely extreme,
but better safe than sorry, of course.
So yes, was there 30 minutes that we had nothing to do
in the airport and we could have slept, technically.
Did we miss our flight?
No.
Did he?
Yes.
He did.
So I just feel good.
And it's a win for naggy bitch wives everywhere, honestly.
It really is.
I think there are relationships where the, not a lot,
but sometimes like the man is the more anal one
about flying, but usually it's like the women timely.
Check on the getting to the gate,
making sure your gate exists before you even get a snack
at the airport.
So this was a win for us ladies.
Yeah, you have to make sure your gate exists.
I guess I am like the more anal one in our relationship
cause Zach is such a late person. Like, yeah, he's slow, perpetually late, slow. Seriously,
it pains me. But I don't identify as like being like, I'm not crazy about it. But I'm
pretty nuts. I feel like I'm like so crazy that actually my normal what I think is normal
is actually what other people would consider crazy. Now I've gotten to a point in my life
when I get home from work, my husband says like,
what did you tell everyone about me today?
Okay.
And so I think he could probably guess
that I would have told this story,
but I know the toasters are gonna DM him being like,
so glad you missed your flight.
He's gonna spit a chop of gold.
And he's gonna be like, what did you say?
And he wanted me to tell everyone, and I forgot to,
so this is an important time,
that the last couple of days,
he has brushed his teeth at night,
because I like railed on him
for not brushing his teeth at night.
He's like, people are gonna think I'm disgusting.
I'm like, good, then no one will wanna come near you.
But he did want me to let everyone know,
like he's working on it, and he's really,
it was important for him to say this, and I agree.
He's a very clean, hygienically, like his body,
and not like, you know, his laundry,
but like he showers at least twice a day.
Like he's not a dirty person, so he doesn't smell, he wants everyone to know that.
And he has been brushing his teeth twice a day.
That's so great.
And this is what happens when you bring back shame.
Accountability.
People start acting, right?
Oh, I don't want people to think I don't brush my teeth.
So let me brush my teeth so I can let them know.
Right, right.
So feel free to send Ben hate mail.
No, I'm kidding.
But then-
Please don't, because then we can't have the fun
that we have. It's so true. Just knowing that it might reach him, that's no fun. Yeah then- Please don't, because then we can't have the fun that we have.
Just knowing that it might reach him, that's no fun.
Yeah, don't tell him, because then things like this
might not happen anymore.
Yeah, it's just never the same.
When you get a message, they were talking about
your spinach on the floor and they're glad
you missed your flight.
It just doesn't hit the same.
It doesn't.
As having the conversation.
And Ben took a huge financial hit too,
to get on another flight,
because the next flight was at 7 p.m.
And he was like, no, so we had to buy another ticket.
So like him just being hit, like, you know, breakfast,
finances, like it's a really, really well-rounded punishment
and I'm glad about it.
And I was supposed to do good guys today.
Yes, Jackie was recording good guys.
They've been talking about it.
They're so excited.
And now it had to be postponed a couple of days.
Yeah.
So you could blame that on Ben too for making a list.
If you were really excited to hear me on Good Guys.
Which I was.
I wonder what, I love going on other people's podcasts
cause then like the burden is on them.
You have to do no work.
To like, you know, think about what they want
to talk to me about.
Like what do they want to talk to me about?
I feel like you and Josh always end up just like
going into parent, cause Zach, Zach,
Josh is like a really hands on dad.
Yeah.
So I feel like-
We talk about like the culture for kids,
like what the kids are watching, playing, doing for sure.
Yeah. And then Ben now can participate a little bit.
So it'll be interesting to see how the pregnancy announcement
will impact the dynamic of the good guys plus Jacks.
Oh, for sure.
Everybody's on the edge of their seats.
Everybody's on the edge of their seats.
Speaking of podcasts, the red heads dropped yesterday.
Like all the drama, will it drop on the first day,
Thursday of the month? Will it not?
I actually surprised myself and I got it up
on the first Thursday and such a great episode. Let me tell you the book, like you don't have to read it if you don't drop on the first day, Thursday of the month? Will it not? I actually surprised myself and I got it up on the first Thursday and such a great episode.
Let me tell you the book, like you don't have to read it
if you don't think you would like it,
but you should listen to the episode
because it was so fucking funny.
And we ranked our top three books of the year,
the official Redheads ranking editor's choice.
Readers choice.
Is that your top three books of the year
that were read on the Redheads or all books?
So because this year, very few of us read books
outside of the Redheads, we only did Redheads books.
Are you doing your bracket again?
That's Redheads madness, but typically-
Oh, you do that in March?
We supposed to.
Oh, okay, okay.
But typically we do top three Redheads books of the year
and top three-
General.
General, but we didn't read enough general this year
to be able to do two separate lists,
so it was just Redheads.
Got it.
I actually made a big dent in my Redheads book,
God of the Woods.
I've been like slow reading it,
but I had a flight yesterday.
So I blew through, I would say like 10 or 15%.
You know, I was being slow and it's a long book
and like I kept taking breaks and I'm enjoying it.
Okay, good.
So it's good, yeah.
Should we dive in?
Like the episode is delayed enough.
Like let's just keep dilly-dallying.
Oh, sure.
Dive into what's gonna be.
Yesterday's episode,
yesterday's stories were stronger than expected.
That's how you describe the stories.
Describe these for me.
RNG really not good.
DNPM DNPM.
Yeah. These nuts.
You can guess this.
If you can guess this, like we actually can hang up our hats and like retire
Okay, but if I guess it let's end the episode right here like okay
That's so no if you guess it read all the ads and then one episode. Okay. Hold on
I need to seriously just write down D N PM
I'm never gonna I have not even a clue one of these letters put yourself in my shoes. Yeah
What was I saying about the stories before we recorded?
How do I speak?
And that's all I'm gonna leave it at.
I have no idea.
Ugh, I was really-
DNPM, it looks like something,
like when a company goes public and they have like a-
Are there tickers?
Yeah, yeah.
DNPM.
This do not pass muster.
Oh my God, I got it.
Oh my God, we have to end the episode.
We have to end the episode.
It will be our shortest episode, it'll be 11 minutes.
Right, but as in the ads, like 15 minutes.
Oh my God, that is so funny.
D, guys, sound off in the comments.
Did you guess that when Jackie said it?
Cause like it is top of mind for everyone.
These stories do not pass muster.
Okay.
Well with a glowing review like that, here are the best five stories that do not pass
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I have to tell you something.
We're gonna get to a place like-
In your pregnancy where you can't do the ad breaks.
Do you hear me?
Yeah, you should have heard me try and recap a book,
Nine months pregnant on the redheads
where I had to do the whole synopsis of the book.
Like it was seriously painful to listen to.
This is the first time I've ever like since
finding out I'm pregnant, like really felt inadequate in
like I'm dying over here.
We could definitely shake things up.
Like maybe we do like, you do one, I do the next one.
So you have a break.
Like we'll figure things out.
We're very like, we're good like that.
Pregnancy friendly podcasts and accessible.
It just occurred to me.
Did you notice while I was like,
that's been happening to me a lot,
like the beginning out of breath doing nothing.
No, I spent the time like trying to make muster
out of the stories.
And I think that I have.
You know, pregnancy is interesting
and I've been like overweight most of my life.
So not a lot of like the weight gaining stuff
or like the lack of movement has shocked me.
This is a state of life I'm comfortable in.
The thing that has shocked me most is I've actually never
until recently gotten out of breath while eating.
That's really crazy.
Have you seen those like diagrams
of how a pregnant woman's body changes
and how all of your organs compress?
Or you've smushed.
I feel it.
Yeah.
I am smushed.
Just wait, Smooshie.
I'm sure.
Just wait, Smooshie.
Oh my God.
Smooshadia.
Are you ready for our first story?
I don't know, you sold it like so well.
No, I'm telling you, I got the stories
in a play set, they are musterful.
Let's hear it.
Claudia, that's musterful.
A bit of friendship news.
Martha Stewart is fangirling over beautiful Rihanna
and her very handsome ace hop rocky at the shoe Oscars.
Yeah, it's a big week for footwear.
So the footwear news achievement awards, the FNNA, FNAA sometimes known as
why was Martha there? Sometimes known as the shoe Oscars took place this some only sometimes.
I mean, is there any second right? What is what is you Goldingal Hooves? What's the shoe
PCA's you know, right? These awards took place. The event celebrates outstanding achievement
in the footwear industry.
I mean, of course it does.
Literally what else would they be celebrating?
Rihanna and Martha Stewart read into each other
and Martha posted to her Instagram,
Riri, bad gal Riri is so beautiful and statuesque,
she wrote in a post and she has a very handsome
and funny boyfriend, ASAP Rocky she added
noting that she was one of the honorees at the event held at Cipriani.
I just don't understand one why was Martha at this particular affair I know she's fabulous so was she just there because she's fabulous or
has she made an impact in the footwear community this year?
She was presented with an Icon Award.
What contributions to the footwear community has she made?
I don't know, maybe Omni Media did something.
Like I watched your documentary
and I didn't see a thing about a shoe.
I didn't, no, who throws a shoe?
Right.
Oh, Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart
announced a multi-year partnership with Skechers in 2023.
Oh, actually, yes, I know those commercials.
And I actually think that was a great money investment.
Excuse me, I can't fucking talk.
It was a great money.
It was a great money for Skechers.
Cause they definitely like border on irrelevant
cause they really are just like for old ladies.
So they got the coolest old lady and her cool best friend.
That was kind of genius.
That should go perhaps in our Toasty Lines category.
That was a very-
We didn't even like really remember it.
No, because it wasn't like a big stupid announcement.
I just started seeing them on the commercials. And you know what? I feel favor towards Skechers. Like when like really remember it. No, because it wasn't like a big stupid announcement. I just started seeing them on the commercials.
And you know what?
I feel favor towards Skechers.
Like when I think about it.
Yeah.
And that's what good marketing should do.
Well, I like my Skechers sneakers, but I love my Prada backpack.
She was so right for that.
Like my Skechers sneakers, they keep me alive.
And I like them. Yeah, sure.
But my Prada backpack is everything to me.
Right. You actually have a Prada backpack
that you've had since like 2009,
and it's probably one of the best things that you own
and you use it to this day.
I can't find it.
I mean, it's here somewhere.
By the way, I know where it is.
Margo has it.
She totally sold it.
You think, Satchel Cratchel?
You're very generous with it.
I know.
You're in your Thanksgiving TikTok with my Dior bag,
which by the way, I let her borrow for a trip.
Like she's going somewhere fabulous.
You need a fabulous, the perfect,
like I want you to have the right thing.
And I also said like, you know what, keep it.
Like I'm-
I'm not going out, I don't need a little black bag, whatever.
But like, you could always give it back
or at least give me credit in the TikTok
where she gave credit to the girl
whose dress she was wearing.
She shout out Kate Davis, but couldn't shout out big sis.
Maybe she's like had it for so long.
She just thinks of it as her.
It's like, it doesn't even occur to her
that it's technically a borrowed bag.
And so many times I'm going out and I need it.
Like I feel it's absence.
I think she's coming to visit you soon.
Ask her to bring it.
I know, I just feel bad.
That's insane that you feel bad.
I don't feel bad, sorry, that's like an overstatement.
Just like sucks for her.
Romeo just waltzed in the studio,
like from somewhere else.
Where has he been?
Where has Romeo been?
And what has he done?
What is waiting for us on the other side of that door?
I don't know, but I just want to say
her getting the icon awards at the shoe Oscars
when she has a partnership with Skechers since last year,
like it's not that iconic, but okay.
You know, I guess nobody else in the space
was doing anything of muster because-
No, but you don't want to give it to like Jimmy Choo.
Yeah, it's definitely. Michael Khor.
It's a slap in the face to people
who actually manufactured shoes.
Vince Commuter.
Or like, yeah, of course, like somebody who,
like designs shoes, but I feel like, I don't know.
Some people like, you know, what was like a shoe collab?
Nike does with like athletes that like break records.
Caitlin Clark, her shoe broke records.
Yes, like no shade to Martha.
I would literally lay my life out on the line for her.
Like give her all the awards.
Sure, I just want to say like in the shoe icon category.
If I was a person who took like the shoe awards
really seriously, I would be annoyed about this.
Yeah, me too. Thankfully I'm not.
Snoop presented her the award virtually.
Like it's seriously getting low budget. Virtually. I'm shocked that R about this. Yeah, me too. Thankfully I'm not. Snoop presented her the award virtually. Like it's seriously getting low budget.
Virtually.
I'm shocked that Rihanna was there.
I think that she was there because Asap Rocky was honored.
Yeah, like it's his thing.
He was awarded for collaboration of the year
in recognition of his partnership with Puma.
So there's like been really big things going on
in the shoe world and I feel like if you don't listen
to today's episode of The Toast, you wouldn't know.
And didn't Rihanna have a big thing with Puma listen to today's episode of the toast, you wouldn't know.
And didn't Rihanna have a big thing with Puma too?
She's the creative director, so she hired her mans.
We love to see women in business like doing charity.
It's seriously like nepotism, but yeah, what I feel like when we talk about couples, like
we're always talking about like different power dynamics, like within Hollywood, how
like, you know, really powerful women like need like men in different industries because
they're so we don't talk enough about how
except Rocky and Rihanna really are in the same industry
and she is so far out of his league business-wise.
She is, she's a billionaire.
And I don't even, I honestly don't even know
how he makes a living.
Like I know he's done music before.
I don't think he's consistently releasing music.
I don't think he consistently does anything.
I think he like loves being a dad and loves being Rihanna's
man.
He's like a professional partner.
Yeah, and he doesn't get enough credit for being like exactly what we're always
saying, like powerful women need.
We're always saying powerful women need a firefighter so they don't compete.
Like, yeah. Meanwhile, ASAP Rocky here is holding it down.
No, it can be done.
Yes. But I do feel like when we talk about them, we do always mention that.
Like, OK, good. We just talk about them a lot.
Maybe that's it. Yeah, because we're always talking about her.
We always talk about her. Therein lies the issue. Well, not an issue. Also, I follow Martha Stewart don't talk about them a lot. Maybe that's it. Yeah, because we're always talking about her. We always talk about her.
Therein lies the issue.
Well, not an issue.
Also, I follow Martha Stewart on Instagram.
So I did see this photo.
I was aware that she was at the footwear association
of America's, the FAA's, whatever.
And it reminded me, cause she tagged Rihanna,
that like Rihanna has never,
and most likely will never change her Instagram username.
Like she was this up and coming singer.
And I'm sure when she made her Instagram,
like she thought it was funny.
She wasn't up and coming. She wasn't Rihanna. Like she wasn't an icon. No, it was crazy this up and coming singer. And I'm sure when she made her Instagram, like she thought it was funny. She wasn't up and coming.
She wasn't Rihanna, like she wasn't an icon.
No, it was crazy when she did it then,
cause Instagram came out, what, like 2009,
like she was Rihanna and she made her name, Badgal Riri.
And then she never changed it.
And she never changed it.
Yeah.
And I love that.
And that just always reminds me of your friend, Alicia.
Yes. Badgal, Alicia.
When I was in high school, my friend Alicia,
and I was like so jealous, it was such a good-
I still call her Badgal.
Yeah, by the way, a lot of people do.
Her name is Alicia, and so she did bad gal, Alicia,
and it was a slay, like it was so good.
It was such a slay.
It was such a slay, and she eventually changed it.
I think maybe she thought it wasn't mature or appropriate.
Like she had her reasons, you know, as we all do.
And the impact that it left, it never went away.
No, like when I see her, bad gal.
Yeah, you actually, you do say that.
I always call her bad gal.
And what a nickname,
because by the way, nobody's ever in their life
been less bad than my friend Alicia.
She's the least bad ever.
She's bad to the bone.
Na na na na na.
Bad to the bone.
I love that song.
Are you ready for our next story?
Hopefully it's some more footwear news.
No, it is more wicked news because Ari is tearing up
while addressing the quote dangerous comments
about her weight.
So in a new interview, Wicked, you know, the usual,
the press tour works her and Cynthia sitting down.
She was asked by a French reporter
how she copes with society's beauty standards
and the overwhelming pressure women feel
to always look perfect.
The pop star was immediately overcome with emotion.
She said-
Shocker.
She said, my goodness, I'm not gonna.
She let out trying not to cry.
Good question.
I've seen a lot of clips of them crying on this press tour
and at this point, like whatever, I'll allow it.
I just wish they would stop.
Stop talking.
No, no, stop trying to not cry.
Like just the tears are coming.
Let them flow.
Stop acting like you're shocked that this is happening.
Just like, let it, I was watching her on Zach St.
Like every clip I watch they're like, oh my God.
Oh, and they're here.
Just let them out.
Like, no, and especially this is probably
one of the more sensitive conversations they're gonna have.
Like just let the tears fall.
Bruno farted in the video.
Bruno farted, I didn't even spell it.
Claudia.
Oh, nevermind.
And he seriously didn't even move a muscle.
He's still asleep.
Like that is the level of unbothered I aim to be,
especially in my pregnancy,
like where all these things are happening to my body.
Oh my God.
And also just reminds me of her song.
Right now I'm in a state of mind.
Da da.
I wanna be in it all the time.
Ain't got no tears left to cry.
Incorrect.
So I'm beginning it up.
That's such a good song.
Have you ever heard the Camila Cabello demo of that?
I feel like we talk about this all the time.
No, I haven't.
Are you sure it's that song?
Yes, that was like-
Or you guys might have heard music?
Is that what you're saying?
That was like a demo that went around the music industry
that like a lot of the pop swirlies either sampled
or thought about putting on, like a lot of them recorded.
I believe Bebe Rexha also has a version out there.
And Ari was the one, I don't know if there was like
a battle over it or nobody wanted it and Ari took it.
I don't know how it worked, but there are versions
of that song recorded by other artists,
which is just interesting.
That is interesting.
So she said, when asked about the pressure and the standards, she said, my goodness, I'm not gonna. Good question. Then she
was confronted by Cynthia, who joined her for the sit down. She said, I've been kind of doing this
in front of the public and kind of been a specimen in the Petri dish really since I was 16 or 17. So
I've heard it all. I've heard every version of it of what's wrong with me. And then you fix it. And
then it's wrong for different reasons. But that's everything from even just the simplest thing,
your appearance, you know, she explained that it's wrong for different reasons but that's everything from even just the simplest thing your appearance you know
she explained that it's hard to protect yourself from that noise and you're
young and you're hearing all kinds of things said I think that it's something
that is uncomfortable no matter what scale you're experiencing on even if you
go to Thanksgiving and someone's granny says oh my god you look skinnier what
happened or you look heavier what happened she emphasized that being on
the receiving end of those comments regardless of who you are is horrible
she said I think in today's society there's a comfortability that we shouldn't have at all commenting on others looks appearances, what they think is going on behind the scenes or health or how they present themselves.
Right, because the overwhelming consensus with Ari is no one say she looks bad.
Like they're just like, um, it is coming from a place of concern because she is so thin.
Although I think people think that it's like a new thinness.
And if you look back, she really has been at this weight
for like last like three, four years.
It is a low weight, it's small.
And I don't know where I land on this
or where we as a society landed on this.
Like you probably should never be talking
about anyone's body,
because you would certainly never say like,
wow, that person's huge.
Like you wouldn't say the opposite.
So one shouldn't be okay and the other shouldn't.
But if you are coming from like a trip,
sometimes somebody losing a drastic amount of weight
is like a health issue or they're going through like
people in abusive relationships, like drop weight,
like it can be an indicator, it can also be nothing.
Right, sometimes someone's always been small
and they've actually, they gained weight at a time
and then they're back to their original weight
and you're like, wait, why are you so thin?
And they're like, oh, I've actually always been like this.
There's always a million things going on.
I've seen a lot of stuff about her and Cynthia.
Dropping a lot of weight.
Yeah, and I keep seeing these comparison photos.
They're like pictures of them before Wicked
and pictures them after.
And I use these photos from like
the Olympic ceremony opening that they went to.
And like the lighting is hard.
It's seriously poot level.
And like stop using that one fucking picture
on that ugly bad day with the overcast lighting.
And yeah, they look bad and ghostly.
That's not a, they look beautiful in the movie.
People are like, what happened on that set?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cause they chose a picture in like perfect lighting before.
They both look malnourished.
And then in the second,
they look like they've had their souls
sucked out of their bodies.
They look like Voldemort.
Like it's just a bad picture.
It's a poop moment.
Yeah, chalk it up to a poop moment.
They look beautiful on the press tour.
They look beautiful in the movie.
They look fine. They look healthy.
They're grown women.
They obviously like the way that they look.
Leave them alone.
Yeah. And then you also have to think about like
what sort of issues they both have.
Just being a woman in the industry.
Like people always being talked about your body.
So like, why don't we just leave everyone alone, okay?
Yeah, yeah.
And it's a really good place to start.
And I really do feel like as a society,
we've stopped doing that.
Like people don't talk, like back in the day,
the way they used to talk about-
The cover of every magazine.
Like Jessica Simpson in those jeans,
like such crazy things.
And I feel like we've mostly moved past that.
So it does feel like a bit of a regression here.
Yeah.
And it must be really annoying to see. Yeah, but do you remember like a time when all the it girlies like Lindsay, Paris, Nicole
were like emaciated and like skeletal. And they would be on the cover of every magazine, like
with their bones out. That was so crazy. Like that's what we used to grow up in the supermarket. Like
that's what we would say. That was just like, that was also the look. That was the look. Like it was
in fashion. Like the looks change, but like regardless,
just everyone's on their own journey.
Leave them alone.
She's obviously like very happy and.
It's true.
And she looks like a person who's like.
And she likes how she looks.
Must be nice.
You know, they say like nothing tastes
as good as skinny feels.
I was just having this conversation with someone.
And I've thought about that phrase a lot
because I used to like, be very.
Clown on it.
I used to be very anti that phrase,
but that was because I had never been skinny.
Then I became skinny and I actually do believe
like being in control of your body,
like is just as good as a donut.
Like maybe not one is better than the other,
but they both have extraordinary merit.
You couldn't say which one's better.
The donut is fleeting.
Yeah, I guess I would say like feeling healthy,
feeling good, being in control of your weight.
It feels better literally
and then anything could possibly taste.
I can attribute that.
And there are some, I've eaten some delicious things.
Yeah.
But also like if you're in control of your body,
like you should, you are able to eat those things.
Like you can have both.
You can actually have things that taste as good
as skinny feels and be skinny.
Yes, to a degree.
To a degree of course, but you can have it for every meal, but like that's part of like a healthy balance.. Yes, to a degree. To a degree, of course.
You can't have it for every meal,
but like that's part of like a healthy balance.
Like you can have a donut.
A little treat.
Yeah.
A sweet treat.
I just had like five sweet treats.
I went through Jackie's Halloween candy.
I had two.
It was so good.
I fucking.
Worth it.
We needed a sugar boost.
We needed a boost before this episode.
We were kind of like crashing that, you know,
at one o'clock crash.
Are you ready for our next story?
One number?
Three. Yes.
Kind of surprising news.
Tell me.
Amber Heard is expecting baby number two.
She's delighted both for herself
and her daughter, Una Paige, who was three and a half.
Now I have a lot of thoughts, but let me just share the
dates.
Yeah, because Elan totally donated his seed.
Of course, to have a sister or brother for Una,
his other child.
And for ex.
Yeah, but like-
A step-siddling for ex.
Our working theory. And I think a lot of people's theory
and nobody's dispelling it.
Nobody's talking about it cause it's like, you know,
not our business and I can recognize that,
but I'm curious.
Amber Heard has a three and a half year old daughter.
Nobody knows who the father is.
After her relationship with Johnny Depp.
So that is also when she dated Elon.
Nobody knows who the father is.
There is space for it to have been once.
You know how much he loves procreating.
It's like one of his favorite hobbies.
There also were a lot of rumors,
and it did kind of make sense
that he was helping her financially a lot
during her trial with Johnny Depp,
because that was like, lawyers like that for a case,
that's millions and millions of dollars.
And she actually said on trial,
she has very little work these days
because of the whole Johnny Depp thing.
So I believe that these two are definitely incommunicado.
I feel like they are like friendly exes
and I could totally see her having either gotten pregnant
or literally asking him for help.
And then she went on another one.
So where'd you go?
Of course to Una's dad.
And she's like living abroad now.
Spain.
I don't know if she's really working.
Like I do feel like Ilan is footing the bill for.
A thousand percent.
Amber and his child.
And then she wants another kid.
And like he loves donating sperm and procreating
like I would need someone to seriously tell me the truth in order for me to stop believing
this because like this makes sense to me.
But there are like a couple mysteries in Hollywood when it comes to paternity.
January Jones, there's rumors that it's Bobby Flay.
Is her dad?
Is her baby daddy like there of course Mindy Kaling, people think it's BJ Novak, we have
no confirmation.
All those are really rumors.
Don't even conflate Mindy and BJ with this
like seriously certifiably true rumor.
Cause there's not a better alternative.
Before we continue, this is just my quarterly check
into see if Amber Heard still follows me on social media.
She follows 54 people and I am one of them.
All throughout the trial, I don't know why.
Well now she's gonna like love being pregnant with you.
Oh my God, my pregnant sister.
Have we ever DM'd? Oh my God, we have. You should like DM her and be's gonna like love being pregnant with you. Oh my God, my pregnant sister. Have we ever de-embed?
Oh my God, we have.
You should like de-embed her
and be like, Mollis will be so happy for you.
Oh my God, I responded to one of her stories in 2018.
And then in 2019, she responded to one of my stories.
Kill in the game, babe.
I don't even know what I was referring to.
You were killing the game.
She said that to me.
You were killing the game.
I could see her talking like that.
I know that you were.
I'm like, I'm so obnoxious.
I'm like, oh my God, stop, I look so ugly.
Like, could I be like more down on myself?noxious. I'm like, oh my God, stop, I look so ugly. Like, could I be like a little more down on myself?
Seriously.
Okay, we haven't spoken since 2019,
but I always check to see if she still follows me.
And she does, and that's major.
It is.
A spokesperson for her says,
it's still quite early in the pregnancy,
so you'll appreciate that we do not wanna go
into too much detail at this stage.
Suffice to say that Amber is delighted
for both herself and Una Paige.
Una, Una, Una, Una,
Luna, Una, Una.
That's nice.
Yeah.
I feel like she's so done.
She is so done.
Like with everyone and everything, even the country.
Like she's just living her best life.
Like I'm surprised we even knew this.
That's how off the grid I feel she is.
Yeah.
I just, I like my version of events.
Definitely.
Regardless, it seems like this is like a happy next chapter
for her, so.
It's good, it's good.
Go forth and prosper.
And multiply.
And multiply.
Very biblical.
Be fruitful and multiply.
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Our next story, I'm just gonna preface this
by saying I don't understand it, okay?
So I'm gonna share what I'm reading,
but I'm letting you know
that I can't process the words that I'm reading.
Maybe I can.
Yeah, maybe you can. I do speak multiple languages. Talk to a creator, Hallie Welch. Oh, I know, I'm reading, but I'm letting you know that I can't process the words that I'm reading. Maybe I can. Yeah, maybe you can.
I do speak multiple languages.
Hawk Tuah creator, Hailey Welch,
is being criticized for her meme coin launch
after the price crashes.
So Hailey Welch, the 22 year old woman
who achieved internet fame this summer
for her viral Hawk Tuah TikTok video,
you guys, we all know her.
She's affectionately called Hawk Tuah.
She launched her own meme coin in her latest career move
only for its value to plummet almost immediately.
So I also can't tell what part of these articles
are just like anti Hawk Tuah slant.
And I feel like there's a lot of that.
So I need you to help me sift through.
No, but like what you just said is all facts.
They said, they called it bizarre.
I took that out.
I think it's bizarre.
Like, first of all-
They said her latest bizarre career move as if she has a lot of bizarre- Well, that out. I think it's bizarre. Like I said,
her latest bizarre career move as if she has a lot of bizarre.
Well, that's wrong.
She actually doesn't.
She spends like Larry,
every dollar she makes on animal rescuing.
She's actually really,
the more I know about her,
the more I actually really like her.
The reason why I'm really reticent to like go all in,
like Hawk 2 have fucked up is cause like,
I actually like trust Hawk 2 and I just,
I feel like she's being misrepresented.
Okay. I don't know if I trust Hawk 2,
but let me say there, I think two things can be true here.
One, it's a bizarre move, like, and I don't really understand,
and maybe this is my lack of like a finance degree,
how you can like create a coin,
but I know that's how crypto works, doge, like.
How the fuck can you create a coin?
I guess somebody had to create, you know, Ethereum,
like all of the popular ones.
So she tried to create the next Bitcoin
and people are upset because when they bought
it immediately went down in value.
So it's like going into the stock market,
you buy Disney shares for $50
and the second you buy them, they're worth 10 cents.
Like that's- But like why did that happen?
Why would Disney go down?
Not only that, I feel like if you're-
That's what doesn't make sense.
If you're at a place where you have money
to just frivolously spend on Hawk 2's
new coin like that's money that you can lose and I also think there needs to be like a level this
is the second truth I'm holding space for a level of personal accountability like I am very like
serious about money like I'm very fiscally conservative like and I like Hawk 2 I don't
know if I trust her but I like her and like I would never in my life spend one single dollar
on her coin it's like a new I don't know if they're a success
with like creator based coins.
I don't know enough about this.
Okay, so here are the deets.
Hailey launched the Hawk to a coin,
widely seen as a meme coin or a form of cryptocurrency
that's typically created for entertainment purposes
on the Solana blockchain on Wednesday evening.
Of course she did.
I mean, who wouldn't do Solana?
I love the Solana blockchain of all of the blockchains. That's my favorite one.
It's a really, really strong one. I don't disagree. That's a good point.
Her coin quickly hit a market capitalization of nearly $500 million dollars. What? Before
immediately plummeting 95% to 25 million as of Thursday afternoon, according to Dex screener
data.
Yeah. So this is where my lack of a finance degree or like a genuine understanding of cryptocurrency
limits my ability to do my job.
Yeah, and the launch appeared to result in big losses
for some traders, Coffeezilla, who's a crypto YouTube,
or with more, do you know Coffeezilla?
I mean, who doesn't?
He said in a tense ex space conversation
with Welch and her team, that the Hawk to a rollout was quote, one of the most miserable, horrible launches I've ever seen.
A cruising Welch and her team of insider trading, which they denied.
Well, here's the thing.
I'm not going to pretend to understand.
How do you roll out a coin better than they did?
Yeah.
And the thing is, isn't that how the market works?
Why is it Hawk to his fault that the value went down?
Wouldn't the value be predicated
on how many people want to buy it?
That's not Hawk's fault, is it?
No, I don't think so.
At the end of the day, what the fuck are they buying?
Does it have value?
That's crypto.
Crypto doesn't have value.
It's not real.
It doesn't exist.
But it does.
Look at Bitcoin, 100 grand per coin.
Yeah.
Do we need to be launching Swirly coin?
The thing is I can't handle another scandal.
Like, and if we launched Swirly coin,
I'm sure codezilla would think that it's-
Coffeezilla.
Mine's better.
Codezilla would think it's insufficient
and that it was a bad rollout.
Like I'm not interested in getting the panties
of the Doge community in a twist.
Yeah, also like he hit her with that insider trading.
Like I'm running so far from-
That's an allegation.
Like, yeah.
Any sort of business venture
that could potentially land us in jail,
I am so out on, you know?
There are certain things that influencers, creators,
celebrities do.
I mean, how many celebrities endorsed FTX?
How many celebrities endorsed Fire Festival?
I wanna, you guys know my biggest fucking fear
in life
is going to jail.
Like I wouldn't do, even if they said,
Turdy, we can guarantee you make $10 million,
do turd coin.
No.
Because-
Come on, turd coin, that's what the world needs.
My freedom is worth way more than $10 million.
If they said a billion for you and your family
and you get out of jail in a couple of years,
I'd think about it for sure.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'm gonna be dreaming about turd coin.
You should, by the way, you can't afford it.
I just need to know what Hawk was trying to do.
I feel like Hawk's side of the story is not being told here.
She has a podcast maybe, like she's recording right now.
Yeah.
Because it all went down yesterday.
Yeah, I just, I don't, I can't provide commentary.
I can only share these things I'm reading.
But what you're saying is that you're trusting your face when it comes to a little bit.
Yeah, like a little I think that I don't understand what she did wrong.
She hasn't given us a reason to think that she's like a criminal inside trader.
Like I don't understand what she did wrong.
She said I'm launching Hawkeye and people bought it and then it dropped.
I don't know why they bought it and I don't know why it dropped and why it talks fault.
And I think that like there needs to be accountability for people who buy things that can increase
and decrease in value.
Like, okay, and so the thing you bought decreased.
That's not the fault of the thing you bought it.
Like where's the personal accountability and invest Romeo?
Yeah, investing.
I agree.
Now how's your Dogecoin doing?
Oh, is that time of the year where I check how upsettingly like you should have bought
one Bitcoin and you'd have a hundred when I was like first thinking about doing
Crypto doge was I mean doge Bitcoin was still 60k. Yeah, it's more now. Okay. I actually have a little bit of a theorem
Okay, and oh my god, I've made three hundred dollars. Oh
My god, look at me. When did I buy Ethereum? That's so weird.
You're making your money work for you.
Oh my God.
And then I also have Doge
and I have made three 100ths of a cent,
0.0035 cents.
And I don't know how you would like make more or less.
There was a time when I had like $300 surplus in Doge.
That was the time to sell.
That was the time to sell.
But yes, I-
Did you see how like Dave Portnoy,
he had like owned a bunch of Bitcoin
and then he did an episode with the Winklevoss twins
and they like confused him so much
that he got nervous and sold all his Bitcoin
and now it's what it is.
Yikes.
Yikes.
I can't believe I own Ethereum.
Can we just go back to that?
Ben must have like told me to do it
and like I put like $5 in.
What do you mean you can't believe you own Ethereum?
Am I supposed to be, what is that?
You don't know Ethereum?
No, I don't know Ethereum.
It's like after Bitcoin, the most popular coin.
Oh, okay.
And people say, you know, Ethereum to the moon.
That's what they say.
And what about Pepe coin?
Do you know about that?
Peppa the pig?
There's Pepe coin here, another meme coin.
Also here, meme coins though are considered highly volatile
and risky by crypto investors
as they are dependent on social media trends.
Like if you are putting your money behind a coin.
By the way, this is really interesting.
I have a little bit of money in Robinhood, like not a lot.
And I invest in like Apple, Disney,
like lame, boring things.
And overall-
Do you have Tesla?
I did at one point.
Do I still? Do you hold onto it? did at one point, do I still?
Do you hold onto it?
No, I don't, I should have.
A couple of, so over my all time investments,
I have made $660 and what's crazy is that-
Claudia, that's not good.
300 of it comes from Ethereum.
So half of my earnings come from-
Your portfolio stinks.
I know, but I don't monitor it.
But what'd you put in $10, the free $10 that they give you?
No, don't be rude.
I put in like that much.
And you've made $600?
$600, yeah.
That's not good.
It's not?
No.
Yeah, well, at one point it was higher.
I don't know.
Everything's green on my app today, so it looks good.
Look, look how much green.
Everything's up.
You sound like a fool. I sound like a fool, yeah. Yeah, I how much green. Everything's up. I sound like a fool.
Yeah.
Yeah, I should probably like,
I should probably like 10,000.
Stop, stop.
It's fine.
The charts could be going down,
but if they're colored green,
like it's a good time.
Green is good.
Green is up.
Anyways, Hailey, like I look forward to hearing more
and I'm gonna give you space.
Oh, of course.
I'm giving Hailey grace.
Are you ready for our fifth and final story for actually you?
Our fifth and final story is for you.
Okay.
Not me.
Our big Harry Potter fan.
Harry Potter HBO series will film in summer 2025 after 32,000 kids audition for the lead
role.
Oh, that's interesting.
Because before you said that fact, I said DN PM does not pass my star.
Like who gives a fuck? Sorry. Lead roles roles because there's like multiple kids in the lead role
So Warner Brothers, I mean who wouldn't who seriously wouldn't want to be like Daniel Radcliffe like he never has to work
He's a billionaire
But do you think that the series is gonna do what the movie did?
No, possibly people who are like small-minded think that it will yeah
So during a presentation at Warner Brothers discoveries headquarters in London on Thursday
The show runner and director revealed
that the show had auditioned 32,000 kids for the lead roles.
That just seems unnecessary for like one casting director
to meet 32,000 kids.
A lot of tape.
The casting team is currently reviewing
between 500 and 1,000 audition tapes per day
with the intent to watch every single one.
Though he affirmed that they haven't made any choices
in regards to casting yet, he said the next step will be to workshop
with some of their shortlisted candidates in January.
So they still, so like they still don't have a lead?
They're still watching tapes is what they're saying.
I hope they pick like all unknowns because now it's like,
well then you watch these tapes for nothing
if you're just gonna pick the person from over there.
I actually think that being a casting director
is a job I'm so unqualified for.
I have no imagination.
Like if you're not exactly what I'm picturing in my head,
like I can't see you.
Cause when people get cast for things,
I'm always like, that sucks.
And it ends up being good, you know?
Like I think that that's a job I wouldn't do very well.
I actually think I'd be okay.
I think I could see it.
You think you have vision?
Yeah, I think you do too.
Big vision.
But yeah, I would say overall,
like this story isn't full of mustard.
Yeah, we don't need to like talk about it more if you don't want,
like I'm okay to like kind of wrap.
Do you have anyone like in mind for-
No, I don't even know what the prequel is about,
but I do know this will probably be the thing
because I guess JK Rowling gets a piece of this,
of course, right?
Is it a prequel?
No, I think it's just a series.
I think they're just like doing it again.
Oh, oh, the same story.
It's a series.
Well, if it's Harry Potter, like she gets a piece.
Let me just confirm that.
And we were just talking about how she's close
to billionaire status again, after becoming a billionaire
and giving away all of her money.
So she was at 800 million the last time I checked
and this new franchise could bring her over the edge
and then she could give the billions away again.
Yeah, it really seems like it's the same as the books,
just new, Coombs of Fresh.
Just in time for me to have watched all the old crap.
Right, now you're gonna miss like the Yosified Harry Potter
on HBO Max.
Oh yeah, they're gonna do what they did
like with Pretty Little Liars,
like make it like new age.
Everybody like has cell phones and like blue hair.
And like Botox.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And big lips.
Love.
Um, well, I would say that with the exception
of the fifth story, those definitely pass the muster.
I enjoyed all of them.
You, you sold it poorly.
Like-
I think it's good when I set the bar low.
It's true.
You know, you really were expecting the worst.
It's good when you set the Lisa bar low.
Yeah, when I set the Lisa bar low.
And now we have to go-
Enjoy our weekend before our big show on Sunday.
We're so excited to see you guys.
I love that Gwyneth Paltrow meme that's like, okay.
I'm off to, it's like me at 430 when the sun goes down. Okay, that's it for me. I'm off excited to see you guys. I love that Gwyneth Paltrow meme that's like, okay, I'm off to, it's like me at 4.30 when the sun goes down.
Okay, that's it for me.
I'm off to bed.
But we are so excited to see all the swirlies
who are coming in, traveling, making the trip.
We have such a swirl,
like what's the most swirlified place in town?
That would be the Hard Rock Seminole Casino
in Fort Lauderdale Broward.
We haven't done a live show in so long.
This is our last of the year
and probably our last for a really long time.
Just given my physical state.
Like Jackie and I like TBD might be wearing matching dresses.
I would love that.
Maybe tap shoes.
Let's go get some tap shoes.
Let's go to like a studio and choreograph a tap dance
that we could like open the show with.
I love that.
Hear the sound of marching feet.
I love that. Oh, that's what you're thinking.
Of marching feet on the Avenue.
I'm taking you to 42nd street.
Oh my God, like a remix.
Guys, love you so much and we'll see you on Sunday.
If we don't, we'll see you on Monday.
Love ya, bye.