The Toast - Dolce-Gate: Friday, June 16th, 2023

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the toes, ladies and gentlemen, and... Happy Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, weekend Friday, Friday Getting down on Friday. That was literally like Little Mermaid.

And yeah, you're going into Little Mermaid. It's a remix. It's a Friday remix. She does it all. She does show tunes. She does pop. She does jazz. What can she do? It's a mashup.

Is there anything cooler than a mashup? Literally no. That's the best episode of Glee. DJ Earworm? DJ Earworm, literally. End of year mashup literally no that's the best episode of glee dj earworm dj earworm literally end of year mashup if you don't know the dj earworm end of year mashups i can't help you i just can't except i could send you to youtube if she doesn't know the end of your mashups by dj earworm she's too young for you bro literally so glad you brought that Margo knows the mashups by yes yes okay okay that's good that's a relief definitely that's so funny like Gen Z thinks they're cool and stuff but

they didn't have DJ Earworm no Gen Z didn't have a lot of things oh my we sound like such desperate pathetic fucking losers like no no I don't think so because like we're not trying to say like we're better than Gen Z in any way like you know I'm Gen Z's big sister I'm just saying like they missed out on DJ Earworm yeah I just I personally like I think talking about like generations and like trends and like who's better is the lowest form of conversation I think it's like for actual like morons okay um I'll keep that in mind moving forward but I just feel like I wasn't falling into that no no I just didn't want to start having that conversation I like nipped it in the bud okay cool yeah you torched it you didn't nip it in the bud yeah I burned it set it aflame I burned

it to the ground you did you did but as you were singing before it is Friday which is a most joyous occasion congratulations everyone we've made it to the weekend it's a cause worth celebrating that and the fact that Jackson Claude are back on the ones and the twos OG recipe OG recipe audio only but still exciting nonetheless you've had an exciting family week at the toast I saw Ben was hosting yesterday no we really fanfare we had an amazing week yeah we did you know you always think you get like the the big stars the big names it's always exciting it is but honestly nothing slaps better than an actual family week at the toast I think moving forward like whenever you need a day off I'm gonna tap into family because you

know I also we have your maternity leave coming up. So we need to save. That's why I didn't want to, like, reach out to all, like, the heavy hitters. Yeah. Because I'm going to need to ask them in a few months or whenever. So I think I'll stick to fam. Yeah, I think it's working. And people love the satchel and they love Ben. And they love the cratchel. And they love the matchel.

And, most importantly, latchel. Oh,el oh my god latchel is so underrated completely agree completely agree how are you doing on this friday morning oh just blessed i mean it's friday what truly what more could you ask for it's a gorgeous plans i like i did oh i keep forgetting to update everyone on like this journey i'm on um i did make weekend plans? I like I did. Oh I keep forgetting to update everyone on like this journey I'm on. I did make weekend plans that were kind of predicated around me picking up my car. I was talking about this a few weeks ago about how I was really thinking about getting a car. You know I live this really kind of untethered life. I have no financial assets. I'm like this 30 year old woman with like nothing to my name. Sorry 28. And I made the decision and I've been going through the motions. I forgot to keep everyone updated on the process but I did. I'm getting a 28 and I made the decision and I've been going through the motions I forgot to keep

everyone updated on the process but I did I'm getting a car and I thought it would be ready for pickup like today or yesterday but then I had to like I realized there's so much to do like insurance all that stuff so it'll probably be like Monday or Tuesday so me and Ben were like gonna plan a weekend away we're like we have our car we're gonna pick it up on Thursday and let's do something for the weekend but the car's not ready therefore I can't go anywhere got it okay well keep us posted so you're not doing anything this weekend you'll be seeing me I'll be seeing you in all that song is so sad it reminds me of the notebook what song is that um what song is that hold on I actually don't know the name I only know that one line I'll'll be seeing you, the notebook.

It's like it's Etta James. No, Billie Holiday. Same thing. Oh, wow. Not you singing Billie Holiday on the toes. You don't know that song from the notebook? Billie Holiday. I love him.

Literally. I'll be seeing you in all the old familiar places. I'm sure if I heard the song, I would know it, but I'm not knowing the one line. Okay, don't be rude. No, no, no, I'm not. Don't be fucking rude. I'm being, like, just truthful. Okay.

I'm so glad we're being truthful. Do you have any truths that you want to share today? I do, actually. Hmm. Well, I wanted to tell everyone about, I had the most fun evening last night. You did. Because, obviously, like, I went to a fabulous place. But I felt so fabulous.

Like I kind of took a risk with my outfit. Which is normally something that would ruin my night. Like I'd get there and be like why the fuck did I take a risk? Like I should just wear black. Like something that would ruin my night. But I was so feeling my look. I like a few days ago I like decided I was going to wear this kind of crazy outfit. This like skirt suit. What do you call that? Like blazer and skirt. It's like a few days ago I like decided I was gonna wear this like kind of crazy outfit this like skirt suit what do you call that like blazer and skirt it's like a matching set yeah it's not like a pantsuit but it gives like pantsuit energy ish um from Veronica Beard that I had like been

targeted for on Facebook like a thousand times I'm like I think I could wear that and I just love the way that I looked so I had such a good time like feeling myself I had gotten my hair done like I was feeling good even though my bruise like was on my forehead even like it was so upsetting I had this big night out and I had this bruise it's getting better from what I see it is getting better but it's not gone but when you see it does it like remind you of Harry and the good times no shared no actually if it did I could live with it but my the association is not there the association is you are such a dumb bitch yeah yeah that's what I think of when I look in the mirror now which is so great for my self-esteem well it's on its way out yeah you'll be back up in no time and I will

be like I will be kind of missing it because what else am I going to talk about once my bruise is gone it's true it's been so great for content. Yes, for content. Maybe you'll have to do it again. Nah. So last night I went to – Hailey Bieber threw a little dinner party for the one-year anniversary of her skincare brand, Road, which I'm actually a really big fan of. Like, I couldn't get any when it came out, and Margot got all of it, and she was, like, so annoying about it.

Like, did you try, like, the glazing cream? I'm like, no, bitch, shut up. I didn't get it. And slowly I've accumulated pretty much the whole collection, and last night I got the whole collection in a gift bag I do have some doubles I'll bring them over to you because oh thanks I have a lot um but you know like I was so nervous about the gift bag I was like I put it on the floor next to my seat and the whole night I was looking I'm like is someone gonna take my gift bag I was like really concerned about it because that shit is hard to get for sure but that would have been crazy if a guest

took a gift bag that they also got like a double well some people like are like insane like that and take doubles and some people like would be like oh that's mine no bitch it's mine no um so by the way it was so fun and I just have so many thoughts like I had a great time once again because I was like feeling my luck second because I got to like sit with Simon and Phil like it was just like it was a gorgeous evening and I was so like honored to have been invited at first I thought it was um like an influencer event I think a lot of celebrities do influencer events dinners parties cocktail whatever to promote their brand and that's what I assumed it was and when I walked in and knew nobody I was like oh my god Pittsville USA and then thank god Simon and Phil were there and it was so fun it was really just like Hailey's actual like friends

and family celebrating this you know major accomplishment having a skincare line being really successful one year in and it was amazing and I had met Hailey before and we've like you know DM'd a bunch but we had never really hung out and I am here today like on a mission. You know, a few years ago, I met Gwyneth Paltrow. And my immediate reaction was rage, actually. Because the amount of like things people say about her and just the public perception of her, you would have assumed she would act a certain way. And when I tell you she couldn't have been more amazing and genuine and lovely I was inspired I was motivated I was on a mission to like change the narrative about Gwyneth Paltrow and I actually feel through my work but also like other things that the narrative has changed around Gwyneth do you agree that like that was like the conscious

uncoupling days and people were just like she's out of touch I'm like no she's a queen yes and also I can say for firsthand you changed my perception really oh for sure okay look at me yes making changes in my own community even if you only helped one person it would be enough Diana um and I'm feeling a similar way because I was so like taken aback by Haley. Obviously in person she's, you never saw like a more beautiful human being in your life. It's actually disgusting. Like that, like it's, it's actually not fair. Like she's so radiant and she's obviously like beautiful, but I honestly think so much of her beauty, like she glows from inside. She could not have been a more kind, sweet, lovely person. And it wasn't a facade.

You know when like a celebrity is like, you know, making the rounds. She is like in her, she's a doll. Wow. I'm obsessed. I feel very passionate that she's another one. Very misunderstood, you know? And you know how like we live in this age where everything she does becomes a trend it's like she has you know white nail polish

and it's a trend and you know what she really it's not it's not like a thing she's she's just the way she carries herself so naturally like that's who she is like she's that bitch and I'm obsessed with her I love that for her for you and now for me because I'm very influenced by your thoughts on people also she's so beautiful so stylish but last night I saw a picture of her like a paparazzi picture before like when you were on your way to the event and so was she and she looked unreal like the best outfit I've ever seen in my life yeah and honestly I was like a little concerned like maybe I was gonna be overd seen in my life yeah and honestly I was like a little concerned like maybe I was gonna be overdressed in like my you know first lady type of blazer

but when she walked in like tens tens tens across the board I was like no I'm perfectly dressed yeah you know it's really never a crime to be overdressed it's like oh I respect you and this your event so much I wanted to give it my all. Exactly yeah sorry I care too much. Yeah I would rather be overdressed than underdressed but I don't know what the rule of thumb is. It really I used to feel I would rather be underdressed because I think underdressed means like oh I don't care that much but it's also like a little rude. Yeah but would you rather look a little rude or like a loser but now I'm thinking like being overdressed doesn't make you a loser like trying too hard

I don't think that's a loser equality caring it's not trying too hard it's like caring I don't think it's a bad thing to be overdressed and also you could always like just look and act as if you're coming from somewhere nicer you're like sorry I'm so fabulous I'm booked back to back I was at a nice event and then I came to hang out with you slobs you're welcome you're welcome um and she was just like a very good host she was like passing around trays of margaritas shots of 818 you know we love a loyal friend and it was just a really fun night you know you go to a lot of things like that. And like they're really never fun. It's just like work. It was not work.

I like didn't my phone. I was being such a bad like influencer. I didn't even know where my phone was. But I just because I was having so much fun. That's so great. And I was it's really just like an honor to be nominated. I'm so happy for you that you had a great night. You looked beautiful.

Thank you so much, Jax. I loved the outfit. You know how I like how I by the way I was actually thinking so many people this we're saying this outfit is so Jackie oh I wasn't sure if they were referring to you or the first lady because it tracks for both for both I agree but now that I've worn it and like I got a bunch of pictures in it it is 100% yours oh my god that's so sweet thank you yeah and you what? I actually have two sizes. So whichever one fits is yours. Okay. I'll reach out in a year.

I'll have my people reach out to your people. I'll put it in storage until you're ready. Stop. Don't be mean. Don't be mean. Sorry. Was that mean? No.

It's just like. No. You just think I have space for not one but two pantsuits? Oh, I forgot you're the sweeper that you can't just like hold on to things. No. If it doesn't serve me in the next week, it's out of my and if I need it in two weeks I'll have to figure it out then I'm gonna say something so real like you're the sweeper and you won't keep things in your house that are like not useful but like I saw your shoe wall yesterday and it's filled with shoes that you

would never wear and that you never wear facts Facts. And that you won't be wearing. Facts. Facts across the board. And what are you doing with them? All right I'm not a perfect person. I never said like sweeping made me perfect. I just like I like to sweep. I like to like get rid of things. Declutter. You like to pop and lock and jam and sweep. I like to pop and lock and jam and sweep. Yeah. But I feel like you could do your shoes next. There's, by the way, there's a lot of things I could and probably should do in this life. And that doesn't mean I'm going to do them. One thing about me, I have no problem with my shoe wall. Yes. Part of it is that like I'll have the shoes on my wall. I will quite literally never wear, or maybe I've worn

once, but I like the way that it looks like it's, it's a design thing. Because you like it's it's a design thing because you like it because I like it now I know you're being like bad to the bone today with your hood up while we're facetiming but can you please put it down because your microphone keeps rubbing up against it oh my god you're you don't like my hood no I love your hood but I'm hearing like all the friction from your microphone my god you're like kind of being toxic today and I need to maintain my mental health. Okay, whatever you say, toxic. Am I being toxic? I think if you have to ask.

I'm only asking because you said it. No, I just think like if you have to ask if you're being toxic, like you probably are. I don't think I am. I don't think what I asked for was so crazy. Just like to hear your voice uninterrupted. First it's the microphone, then it's what's next, my kidney? I would give you a kidney though, like in a second. I don't know if I asked for was so crazy. Just like to hear your voice uninterrupted. First it's the microphone. Then it's what's next?

My kidney? I would give you a kidney though like in a second. I don't know if you'd want mine. I don't think it's like probably like in the best shape. No, I would take yours. Yeah, like if nobody else was around. I don't think I'm like – I would be in a position to be choosy. Yeah, yeah.

I always think about that. Like I was reading a book where like somebody needed a liver or something. Not a liver. Probably a kidney. And I was thinking like would I do that like for a member of my family 100 percent but like even then like I would really hope somebody else would step forward yeah I don't know what the procedure and the recovery is like but I would do it for my family like no questions asked except for what's the procedure and the recovery is like but I would do it for my family like no questions asked except for what's the procedure and the recovery like that would be my only question no questions asked except like you are going to be nice to me for the rest of your life right yeah what's in it for me

right can I borrow your shoes in exchange yeah could I have that Veronica beard outfit you can for the price of one kidney. Good to know. Yeah. We've got a good show today. What would you say in terms of the stories? The stories are good. It's weird. It used to be like a Monday stories would be really strong and Friday there'd be nothing. But I feel like Friday there was tons and Monday there was nothing.

There's been a reversal of the fates? A reversal of the fates. I feel really good. I'm excited to chit chat with my swirly yeah about what's going on um there I chose the stories obviously like the last two days or whenever it was Tuesday and Thursday and it was one of the hardest things I've ever done no it's getting harder and harder Claudia I've been trying to tell you like I feel like in the past when I've tried to pull stories like the first three come like decently easy and then you like scrape the bottom of the barrel daily mail like fourth and fifth CNBC you know CNN money um however I couldn't even find

like a first story yeah that's where it's been recently yeah it's the summertime you know let's just hope this is a trend summertime in the livingmertime That's like a caption that people use Like for Instagram when it's summer And I know that if you use that caption You're automatically unoriginal Duh No now that I said that I'm gonna make it my caption But like I'm gonna be doing it like in an ironic

Like pick me kind of way Okay I'll pick you every time Turdy Lou Checks stop I love you And I'm so toxic right Okay. I'll pick you every time, Turdy Lou. Check. Stop. I love you. And I'm so toxic, right? That was the most toxic thing you'd ever said. I think that was so supportive.

It's like, yeah, Claudia's a pick-me girl, but I'll pick her every time. Okay, for sure, but, like, I'm really not. No, not in your heart of hearts. Like, pick-me girls are like, oh, my God, I can really only hang out with guys. And, like, I love beer. No, like, you joke. Like, you joke about wanting to be chosen. Yeah, but I think pick-me.

In your heart of hearts, you're not. You're like, please skip over me. Please, don't notice. Also, at its core, pick-me girls, like, that phrase comes from, like, girlies, especially in, like, college and high school, who just wanted to be picked by guys. Like that's not what I want. I just want the attention of everyone, like not men. Yeah, that's true.

That's where I think there's a key difference. So what's the word for like a pick me, but who is, you know, gender inclusive? Thirsty. Thirsty. Okay, I'll take it. thirsty thirsty okay i'll take it okay i think without further ado we can get right into the fast five stories that you need to know support for today's episode comes from one skin if you've ever thought to yourself what if we could reverse the root causes of aging then listen closely our new sponsor one skin put science and research Founded by a team of four female PhD level

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Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Spotify deal is over. Spotify's exclusive deal with Prince Harry and Meghan has come to an end with the couple having delivered just one show under the agreement. Spotify and Archwell Audio, the couple's podcast production shingle, said Thursday in a joint statement that they are ending their pact. Quote, Spotify and Archwell Audio have mutually agreed to part ways and are proud of the series that they made together. And by series, I believe it was 12 episodes of Megan's show, Archetypes, and then that one holiday episode of Archwell. Remember that?

No. When they first announced the deal, then they came out with, like, this holiday episode. I think it was Megan and Harry. It was one episode of something, talking about stuff. And then they didn't put out anything for, like, almost two years. And then they didn't put out anything for like almost two years. And then she started doing her podcast.

Got it. Which was like a one season thing. And there's no more. So I think they didn't meet the threshold for output. Yeah. For their deal. And so, I mean, $20 million for 12 episodes is insane. Well, I have to imagine that they didn't get the full 20.

I don't think you get the full 20 upon signing. There's, like, deliverables and benchmarks you have to reach. Right. So I don't think they got the whole thing. But I also imagine they got probably half. Like, you get a big chunk on signing. And then once you do the whatever. So I'm sure they got, like, a good amount of money.

And I'm sure it probably didn't return on investment for Spotify. Because I don't think the show was like incredibly popular. I also just don't think it was what people thought it was going to be. No and also like even if the show was incredibly popular like how can 12 episodes of anything equal $20 million back in Spotify's pocket? Yeah. It's not enough content. No it's not enough content. No, it's not. Even like a show, like even a really, really big, huge show with like five or six ads

and they're getting like a ton of downloads. I think really the most you can generate through like one episode of a podcast is like a million dollars. So if you're only doing 12. Yeah. But it wasn't even about the ads. Like I think with Spotify,

they make their money back because you bring in new subscribers. Yeah. Yeah, there's a few ways that's true so it the show had hit like number one when it launched but it wasn't like gangbusters it was just a popular very popular podcast on Spotify which again like it's limited because people can't listen to it in other places no and it's hard to measure the success of a Spotify podcast against like the success of all podcasts because like you're going to be high up on Spotify where other people, a third of their audience listens on Spotify.

Right. You know what I mean? So you can only really compare it to like fellow Spotify exclusive shows. Yeah. Which are always in like the top 10 on Spotify, which makes sense. I feel like this is like twofold. I think there's really two interesting conversations to be had here the first is like this is really the first project or thing that Megan and Harry put out that like wasn't about their experience in the royal family and it kind of flopped and I think that's probably like a thing

they're thinking about is they obviously don't want to keep talking about it but like when they do the book gangbusters you know so how do they move forward but also continue to like create content and be relevant and create a living without keeping talking about it. Well they had said like a few weeks ago that they're no longer going to be talking about the royal family stuff mostly because there's nothing left to say. Like they did the docuseries. They did Oprah. She even would talk about it like here and there on the podcast like in terms of just labels that the media put on her his book so they've they've said

they're no longer talking about it which makes sense because there's nothing left left but then I think the other part of this conversation which I find like actually more interesting is there was like a few years where Spotify like clearly decided they wanted to be the number one app for podcasting it was always Apple and they spent like an insane amount of money taking a lot of shows exclusive, creating a lot of original shows on their own with like famous people. And I think a bunch of them have paid off. I probably think like the most obvious one is Joe Rogan. But I think there's like a few flops and like kind of bad investments. And I feel like this would be one of them. It was a good idea. Like I don't think anybody could have really predicted that like they wouldn't come back for a second season that

it would be two years delayed and that it would be like just like a random show just like interviewing other people just like everybody else like I don't know if anybody would have predicted that but I think this is like one of the the investments that Spotify made in people that's like now kind of backfire not backfiring but just like didn't pay off yeah I agree plus Spotify did lay off 200 employees earlier this month from their podcast operations I don't know if that was a story or we just it wasn't but I did see two percent of their workforce yeah so it's not just like they have all this money that they can give to celebrities and people of note and that they don't have to like earn it back yeah there are consequences for like overspending but I do think a lot of their efforts to become the top audio listening platform have borne fruit like that a few years ago we used to look at just our podcast like we

push we have our podcast everywhere and the majority of listens would be on Apple I think at one point like we have four percent We had 4%. 4% was Spotify. Then 9%. And now it's a third. Yep. And that's like through all the work they're doing. Yeah. No.

I think. And I would probably say they are the number one place for podcasting. No they're not. No. Like in the culture. Like. No. When I go to listen to a podcast.

Like. I. Now we're like 50-50 go to Apple or Spotify. I go. Okay. I go to Spotify if there's video. Yeah. And I feel like sometimes it's a Spotify exclusive show.

So I have to go like. Right. No, like. But when it's not a Spotify exclusive show, like I just went to go listen to Skinny Confidential. I went to Apple. Yeah. No, their fruits, the labors of their fruits have definitely paid off. But not. Definitely born fruits. But not every single thing they did was like a hit and now I think it's just

interesting to see what ended up being a miss yes I agree and I feel like more stuff like other contracts and stuff are going to come up soon and will they renew or not right like how long was the Joe Rogan one for it was a a few years ago. I think 10 years. Oh, okay. I mean, yeah, he literally got like $100 million. I think maybe more so. And it started, but it started in 2020. So 10 years.

Just based on like how I perceive things, I would say that that's a, you know, a fruit that's bearing fruit or whatever you want to call it. Based on like, yeah, a fruit that's bearing fruit. Also just the charts. The charts charts his episodes are like one two three and four every single day yeah old episode like yeah um armchair expert is exclusive to spotify now yes they chug along nicely yeah they do but then there was also like spotify was creating their own shows like spotify originals like Addison. Remember Addison had a show.

They had like a bunch of like good celebrity duos and almost all of them are gone. Like that was something that didn't work for them. I think more so acquiring existing popular shows is going to be the way for them to go. Obviously Call Her Daddy too. But that's the same template of like acquiring existing popular shows because really with with celebrities, like you think, oh, this person's a huge celebrity. They're going to start a podcast. It's going to be so big. But most of the time it's not. Yeah, it's not.

I think for a really long time people thought it was like a perfect formula. Like a celebrity and a microphone. Like we're going to be rich. But it's not. You know who's someone who's actually very interestingly I've been seeing her podcast everywhere and I think it's really doing very well and I'm sure she got paid a lot because I think it's a wondery created whatever Julia Louis-Dreyfus yes I've been seeing it everywhere too because it's like been put everywhere but I also am seeing it like in the charts legit yeah

um and because she's like a star and she's like a smart like thoughtful well-lived person and well liked like for her personality because she's a comedian that's why it does go better for comedians than you know like the smart list guys right like it it can work it's not it's not like nobody wants to listen to celebrity podcasts like they do really well but also it's like they do really well at first like let's give it a few years yeah well that's what's happening with these contracts like with Spotify so it is a very interesting time to see I would I mean I'm sure we'll never know but I would love to see just like a list of like what made money for Spotify and what didn't you know yeah well not even like made money because I do think like there's a lot of different

ways to measure success ways to measure success and some of it is just like you know impressions and what are we talking about and all of that but just like numbers who's listening to what well that's a really interesting thing about podcasting when you compare it to like YouTube format which I think was like the previous long form content um you know you could see everyone's numbers and like people were competing and like wanting to get more views and more subscribers all that's public with a podcast you have literally no idea unless it's your podcast how another podcast is doing so it's really easy to make your podcast look like it's crushing it but nobody knows yeah and it's easy to make it look like your podcast is crushing it except for the charts but the charts are now a little muddied with spotify because you can't compare the spotify

exclusive shows like you can't compare them with the shows that go everywhere right so you could look at apple charts but that doesn't include all the shows right yeah and apple podcasts don't even really like the formula for Apple podcasts is so weird like you don't have a million and be number one and then the person under you has 900,000 of that episode it's not strictly numeric it has a lot to do with like reviews and subscribes like it's so the algorithm is so random so it's still not even an easy way to measure it yeah it's still not well in this variety article a source close to the situation with harry and megan said they they wanted to move away from their exclusive spotify

distribution to find a new home for their audio projects which i don't believe um but so we'll know based on whether or not they keep podcasting right Right, right. Like if they go to, you know, Sirius or whatever. Or if they podcast like every other Joe Schmo and they put it everywhere. Right, right. Because they want more distribution. Like you don't leave Spotify exclusive. No, that's where everyone wants to be.

It's like the Mecca. That's where everyone wants to be. And you do get the protection of like, we don't know how successful you actually are. Right, because we're a Spotify exclusive right no very interesting like four-year saga in the archetypes universe yeah so I think I saw now they're just down to their Netflix contract right right but I think also Harry still has two books in him yes contract yes but he needs to wait that's the thing it's like

unless he wants to write a work of fiction a smut book I think he should write royal smut you kind of like red white and royal blue vibes yeah which you still haven't read but you need to read I know because the show is coming out on prime you should read it first just in case yeah it was bad yeah no and like I want to be a part of like what everyone's talking about and everyone's talking about red white and royal blue you know what book I started last night what Minka Kelly's book oh anything good yet yeah it's so well written and it's still in her childhood which I know you hate and I actually think the whole book is like her that's what I've heard her life story but it's

such an interesting life story and she just had the craziest experiences that how what's her like what's where was she born like she's born she like lives in Hollywood with her mom who um they're like in and out of friends apartments boyfriends you know people's garages or I think her mom like was between jobs like working as a um like a peep show dancer and um chauffeur like whatever but then at one point like her mom goes to take a job like acting on uh in the Philippines and so she's like bouncing around between like people like not even her mom's friends just like other people's houses how old is she she's like seven and then she's nine and it's but she's like such a like a smart sweet precocious little girl who's just like trying to get through and it's just it's really

well written and it's crazy like the amount of success that she's had yeah do you does she is she like still close with her mom like was her mom alive she's I don't know yet I I don't know if she's only like 10 I just got to part two right right I'm so curious like if after like everything you know how hard her mom worked if she was ever able to see like Minka become a star yeah because they were really close when she was little but obviously she wasn't like the conventional right parent um so it's really good I would so far very much recommend it oh good it's on my list yeah and I feel like it became like I've heard from so many different people and sources that it's such a good book not just like one person recommending it but I've just been seeing everywhere that it was like really just like a sleeper memoir and it's so good and you should read it and so I was finally influenced interesting all right I'll think about it I gotta get my book club book started what are you guys reading the

rose code oh yes I'm excited for you it's like kind of you know it's not my usual thing so it's taking me like a lot of mental gymnastics to even open it up you know I think you'll like certain elements of it and overall the story is like amazing okay but Prince Philip's in it oh no way it's about like the girly before Elizabeth oh I didn't know that but it's that's not the whole that's just like a piece of the story got it it's not the it's not a love story about like you know he just happens to be he's like a is it the ballerina character remember philip had like a ballerina girl that was the girly after that was the girl after elizabeth an affair yeah okay cool yeah yeah it's cute so there's some elizabeth adjacent tings you love to see it you do are you ready for our next story yes so priscilla presley says that elvis would be proud of the trust settlement with riley

keogh we had reported that there was strife among the women presley um after lisa marie's passing but priscilla believes that her late ex-husband elvis would be proud that she reached a legal settlement with her granddaughter riley keogh a.k.a. Daisy Jones. In a declaration filed Wednesday and obtained by People, the 78-year-old said she's pleased that she and Riley can finally put their legal tussle behind them. The pair reportedly reached a million-dollar settlement this month over Lisa Marie Presley's estate, who died on January 12th. She said, my daughter's passing was both devastating and heartbreaking. We have learned that the fans realize that we are just a family. Elvis would be proud, and his and Lisa wishes are are what are most important to us so I believe that the settlement that they agreed to was that she would give Riley would um give Priscilla a million dollars in order to become the sole trustee of Lisa Marie's estate and then another payment of $400,000 to cover her legal

fees. So Lisa Marie left her estate which is technically right like Elvis's to her daughter Riley. And that wasn't cool with Priscilla? Yeah I think like Priscilla had wanted to be a trustee as well and I think maybe at one point she was, and then it was switched and like, maybe she didn't know. So she was like fighting Riley. It's like a weird situation. Like it is.

And I'm glad that it's like over, over with and that both parties can be happy with the resolution. I just like, don't really know how you come back from that. No, I was going to say like in a family way, how do you think these two are cool? I don don't know and the fact that it was so public like it's just a little awkward no money makes everything like cringe yeah like how do you

actually like move forward with your grandmother when you had to just pay your grandmother 1.5 million dollars like it's yeah and like gran was, like, coming for you. No, and, like, the roles are reversed. Like, it's weird for both of them because, you know, a grandmother is supposed to basically give money and an inheritance to a granddaughter, not the other way around. So it's, like, it's weird for Riley that, like, her gran is suing her. But it's, like, weird for her gran that, like, her grandkid has all of her money. Like, it's weird.

Yeah, yeah, her grandkid has all of her money. Like, it's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm glad this can be put behind them. I'm sure Riley's thinking to herself about her and her grand, like, how did we get here? How did we get out? That's probably what she's thinking. $1.4 million. Not too shabby.

Even though I think in, like, the grand scheme of the um estate it's not a lot no it doesn't seem like it feels like pennies on the dollar yeah to be young well speaking of iconic singers are you ready for our next story yeah mccartney announces the final beatles record with ai restoring john lennon's vocals the beatles are coming back thanks to a little help from ai in an interview with bbc radio for his best of today paul mccartney revealed that he employed the technology to create what he calls the final beatles record we just finished it up and it'll be released this year the song No, that's definitely cool. You know, I feel like, remember a few years ago when like the trend was like dead celebrities doing like hologram tours yeah this is like the new wave of that the hologram thing was like actually a little creepy and weird

um I guess this is like a little creepy it's different um it's cool you know it's cool for the fans I don't know it's a little I mean in this one instance I think it's like it's fine. It's one song. It's the final song. He had a demo of it out there like it's not that far-fetched but I think it's the precedent that it sets that like anyone posthumously can just be like cranking out tunes and who's going to be in charge of what these tunes are and if they are congruous with the person's legacy yeah i mean then it speaking of priscilla like it it's all back to the estate like the person who owns the estate or like owns the masters to that person's life like then it becomes like legal i'm sure john

lennon's estate or trustee whoever it is like who owns his whatever needed to approve this yes you can't just be rogue releasing people's shit posthumously without approval but also it's like but i think the beatles are the entity here you know yes but i think you know each beetle will then gain financially from this well i guess but they sold all their stuff yes who owns Michael Jackson right Michael Jackson's estate owns the Beatles masters so he Michael Jackson's getting money in the grave too posthumously yeah I think it's just a can of worms in this instance like sure let's hear what the Beatles have to give us in 2023 but you know but AI is

a can of worms no yeah and like do you think that the song is gonna pop off in the way that it would have had it been released at the peak like how has has music trends like moved past the Beatles will people like people will listen for like the novelty for sure but like will it be a bop I don't think so I I think it's going to be sad. Yeah. Until, you know, like Diplo makes a remix or whatever. Yeah. If they want to. Yeah, exactly.

But then it's not like the Beatles. No, then it's like new age crap. Yeah. I'm open, but I don't know. No, this is like a cool thing about AI. You know, everyone's talking about AI. And like, to be honest, I don't know enough to like have a full-flown full-fledged conversation but there are a few things that like AI can do that I actually like I'm here for like this is cool

what else are you here for well there's a lot of um AI software programs that are making like video editing and podcast editing like so much more seamless and easy and like that's cool yeah yeah that's cool and it makes it a lot cheaper I mean then it's but then the conversation is like for you know content creators it's making it a lot cheaper a lot more accessible to like get quality content out there but then it's putting you know people who edit video and audio for a living it's putting those people out of business yeah or not putting them out of business but like taking away jobs yeah that taking away jobs but robots have been doing that.

That's what robots do. Right, that's the culture. This is just the next iteration of it. That's what robots do. They'll keep you unemployed the whole day through. It's funny, but it's not. A hundred percent. Well, are you ready for our next story?

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And to that I say, to me, yad welcome. Dead. Our next story, just some young handsome people doing young handsome things. Jacob Elordi and Olivia Jade spend time together on the beach in Italy. Obsessed. Jacob Elordi and Olivia Jade are on vacation in Italy, and the pair were photographed spending time together under the sun. They were seen soaking up the sun in Paragi. Definitely not how you pronounce it in Italy. Near Portofino. How would you pronounce that if it's Italian?

Spell it. P-A-R-A-G-G-I. Paragi. Yeah, for sure. After relaxing on the beach and going for a dip they were spotted riding through town on a motorcycle. It's just too much. No it's literally a movie. Yeah. No I'm obsessed. If they were a movie. I think these two are so well matched. So well suited. I couldn't be more supportive of this relationship. They're both so good looking. It's quite literally not

fair. And I'm so happy for. It's quite literally not fair. And I'm so happy for you know young beautiful people. To be doing young beautiful things. Yeah. And I'm glad that they're. It seems like this is more next serious step in their relationship. I feel like they're always just like walking the dog. Yeah.

In their pajamas. And I'm glad that they got out of the house. And like traveled together. Out of the country. It brings you closer together as a couple. Yeah this is definitely a really big step i love that we got these paparazzi pics i'm so happy for them i i just can't say enough good things about these two like i think it's a perfect i honestly if they went on

are you the one it would be a perfect match yeah it would be the truth booth confirmed the truth booth confirmed these two are a perfect match yeah so I just hope they keep doing what they're doing but like there's not much else we can say about this you know yeah and like she's 23 and he's 25 so like I'm not even waiting for like an engagement or something just keep on keeping on I love this I love this do you think he's met like Lori and Massimo Yes Obsessed Yeah I do Let's leave it at that I don't want to jinx it Like I don't want to get too excited

You know Cause then tomorrow I'll be reporting they broke up And like his show got cancelled Yeah like they didn't travel well together You know about that life Like he wore his backpack in the airport And like she

And like she got sick Because she couldn't go to the bathroom In the hotel Right And they just thought it like. It wasn't worth doing it anymore. Yeah. So our fifth and final story is actually going to lead into a little TV recap.

Wait. Just really quick. I do feel like celebrities are like immune to a lot of icks that normal people might suffer. Because like Jacob Elordi is not wearing a backpack through the airport. They're flying private. Someone's carrying his bag for him. There really are. That's like a privilege of celebrity that not a lot of people talk about is the lack of X.

They don't wait in lines. Okay. Yes, I agree that they wouldn't suffer from like traditional X. But then I'm sure as a celebrity, there are like celebrity specific X. Yeah, like publicist. Like, oh, you didn't get the invite to the Vanity Fair Oscars party. Ick. Yeah no I like that. Oh you had your publicist place that spotting of us. Ick. You're so right. You know what I mean. It's a new it's a different stratosphere of icks.

Yeah everyone has their own things that they struggle with. 100%. Our fifth and final story is going to lead into a TV recap because we're finally getting to the meat and potatoes Of the Kardashians on Hulu And the riff between Kourtney and Kim So Kourtney slammed Kim for copying her wedding With the D&G show Kim's Dolce & Gabbana deal didn't sit right with her sister Kourtney In Thursday's new episode of the Kardashians

Kourtney accuses Kim of copying her Italian wedding, which was hosted by D&G. In the episode titled Ciao Kim, Kourtney tells Kendall she was hurt after Kim chose to partner with Dolce mere months after her May 2022 wedding to Travis Barker. So Kourtney got married in May and the fashion show was in September.

She said, so Kim is in Milan, you know, doing this whole Kim, Dolce & Gabbana, Ciao Kim, living la Dolce Vita, whatever. She said to Kendall, she added that when she decided to work with the designers on her wedding it wasn't even about business it's not like I did their campaign and she did their campaign right after it's my actual wedding this wasn't a business deal for me I did it because it felt really personal Courtney said Kim always has such an abundance of opportunities for partnerships but that pursuing the Dolce deal seemed to take precedence over hurting her sister.

It's just legit copying my wedding, pointing out that she pulled references from Dolce & Gabbana's 90s archives when it came time to plan her wedding outfits. And then Kim did the same for her collection. It's a really interesting fight because it's not 100% clear who's right and who's wrong. I do feel like Kourtney is not doing a good job of explaining why she's mad. And it just seems like confusing. And she's coming off like maybe a little like bitter with like not posting the t-shirts or whatever. But I do think she makes like a fair point.

But I don't know how it is applied here. fair point but I don't know how it I don't know how it is applied here it's like she the point she was making about like this abundance and just like this life of excess excess or however the fuck you pronounce it I feel like I actually understand that it's like at what point like is it enough um but I don't really know what that has to do with her wedding oh I that's not the point that I took away from it um like there was a part of what Courtney was saying that did resonate with me more than I thought it would because I don't remember our reaction when we found out that they actually there was an issue over the Dolce thing but it kind of made sense but I think for Courtney it's like within the family like she brought Dolce to

them at least that's how we see it as consumers we don't know like the back end of how it all went down but like for the last even 10 years in fashion like Kim's been wearing like these futuristic things like just doing a total different vibe with her style and Courtney brought the whole family into like this Dolce fold had this whole Dolce weekend and like it was amazing for the family and no you're right the way I felt watching the weekend I was like oh my god why don't these girls dress like this more often like it was like classic like feminine silhouettes where it's like Kim's always wearing like a space suit and alien glasses yeah and Courtney like did kind of in I don't want to say like invent but like did bring that to the family and like that was the vibe of her

wedding and so I think she was she was more offended that like the vibes of her wedding were then copied and like commercialized which I don't I think maybe her and Kim could have communicated better but I think at the end of the day like Kylie said Kim still should have done the show yeah it's too big of an opportunity to pass up so I think like maybe she could have handled Kourtney's feelings better, but I do kind of understand what Courtney, I don't even know if she was saying this, but it's like,

I did this one thing and it's kind of like the first and biggest thing that Courtney's done where it's like, it's actually had like global impact. And it was like so original. It was so original. I felt like for me, like it was the most interested and invested I'd been in the girls and like so long.

It was just so gorgeous. Yeah. And then like not even six months later, like Kim it her own no you know what you're actually really changing my mind whereas for years she's been in the fashion industry she's had access to all these designers and like she never once was a Dolce girly no but she didn't seek out this opportunity she did want to push it Dolce wanted to work with her. So like it is. What are you going to do? What are you really what are you going to do if they had maybe a better more open line

relationship where it's like I know that like you love me and you respect me but like get your bag and do what you have to do. Yeah. They don't have that sort of like if it was Chloe and Kim like this wouldn't be a thing and it's like rising tides rise all shides and it would be great for everyone but like a part of me did understand like Kourtney had one thing yeah like you know and and now it's Kim's no you know what you've totally changed my mind on it like you're 100% right and I think it the issue because Kylie's right like Kim there was no way Kim was going to pass up this opportunity.

And she shouldn't have to. Nor should she. And it doesn't make her greedy for taking it. Like, this is, nobody gets to curate a fashion show made of archival looks for, like, an iconic fashion house. Like, that's unheard of. But I do think the situation wouldn't have even been a thing if the root cause, like, if their relationship

was even remotely better like there were a lot of rumors like a little while ago that like Kim and Kourtney weren't talking and it was like this conspiracy that like they were not even you know friends anymore and I think a little bit of that that was dramatized but it's definitely like rooted in truth and I think they have this like really, really, not fucked up, but they just don't see eye to eye on anything. They are so different. Like, I think Kim sees Kourtney as, like, this downer and, you know, not hard worker. And Kourtney sees Kim as this, like, greedy almost. And just, like, when is it going to be enough?

And, like, you don't prioritize the same things that I do. Like, we don't prioritize family. Like, I think they really judge each other for the life choices that they both made. And so if that wasn't, like, at the root of their relationship, this might have been able to be, like, handled in a much better way. Yes. Like, they don't communicate. Like, they don't care. Yeah. And also, like, after Kourtney's wedding, like, all of those, like, Dolce, like, was selling out on every, like, I remember I was, like, on Farfetch, like, now I want some Dolce like was selling out on every like I remember I was like on Farfetch like now I want some Dolce dresses. Like it was just like it just became very popular very quickly.

So I understand why the brand would want to like continue to capitalize on the girls. No and by the way remember we like literally a few weeks or months ago actually were like was like Corey. Corey Gamble did like a dinner with Dolce. Like the whole family is now like Dolce living the Dolce Vita. Yeah. But I want to know how Kim's collection did. Yeah. Was it like, was it worth it?

Like what was the goal of it? But I was just. She said she wanted to sell out globally like when it launched. All these like refreshed looks. Yeah. Well, I was on Farfetch and you can get all of, like I literally saw everything that was in the episode. Oh's like not sold out Dolce Kim yeah I don't know how you measure success

from something like that is it like impressions because if it's that like Kim we were all talking about the show when she did it if it's like buzziness and press then that is a success yeah I don't know I don't know either because I don't even remember how I felt about it when she did it other than the fact that she looked unreal but I don't think I realized like what they were doing together you know me neither that like it was archival looks that she had curated I just thought like she was the face like the face of Dolce I don't know same same but it is a really crazy fight and it feels very real yeah no and I think it's like still like lingers between them and I genuinely see both sides whereas before this I think I would have said like I think

Courtney's being um crazy a little bit sensitive yeah and I I saw her side more than I expected to no you know I do still think at the end of the day, like, who would ever say no to this? If she can't get the timeline. And by the way, Courtney said that. Courtney said, like, I would never tell anyone not to do something. But like, to not account for my experience and my feelings as a sister like that is hurtful. But Kim felt like she did. Like, I feel like for Kim, so she didn't choose from the Madonna collection or the lace collection

because those were really close to Courtney's wedding. But then Courtney was like, she did like I feel like for Kim so she didn't choose from the Madonna collection or the lace collection because right we're really close to Courtney's wedding but then Courtney was like she did the 90s look so I guess like Courtney's looks were within the 90s but like it's like where do you draw the line on what's copying like do you get the whole decade or do you get the collection no that's fair and I think if it wasn't four months later she could have done whatever she wanted yeah but Courtney's probably like riding this high of like her wedding being like this global affair her doing something so different than literally any wedding ever like it was really so good for everyone she's probably like still riding the high and now it's just like her sister it's like it's always about Kim and I don't think yeah like D&G came away from the wedding and was

like we want Kim because honestly in a perfect world Courtney's the bride it yeah, like D&G came away from the wedding and was like, we want Kim. Because honestly, in a perfect world, Courtney's the bride. It's Courtney's D&G weekend. Like then she goes on to do a collection with them. Yeah. But that's like not how the family works. It's kind of like a hierarchy. And that's not what Jill Gingobano wanted. Yeah.

No, it's, you know what? You've really totally changed my mind. Like I'm actually feeling like like like a little sympathy for Courtney I'm feeling sympathy for Courtney because it's like I had this whole weekend this was my vibe and Kim upstaged her because Dolce wanted her no and then it just like goes back to being the Kim show like it always is yeah and this one thing that was like made that was so cool for Courtney honestly and so personal because it's still that's what she was saying this isn't business it was my wedding right and then it's like but they want Kim still so I understand being hurt by that but it's hard to like be a big girl and say

that that like yeah especially because and Courtney said this like in an episode recently like when they were growing up there was always this competitive vibe and Courtney's like I've moved on from it but Kim hasn't but it's clear that like Courtney hasn't moved on from it so like just to acknowledge that there is like a weirdness and a competitiveness I don't think she wants to do so it's hard to explain herself when she won't just bring in that element yeah interesting it's it's it's. I also think the whole stylist thing with Kim, a lot of people are kind of flummoxed by. Yeah, I was flummoxed. Yeah, how like Kim, you know, for years has been this like style queen and she's like queen of fashion and fashion this, fashion that, Kim, Kim, Kim. And to see how rattled she was to like do these meetings where she's just like styling pieces

without her assistant was shocking. Not assistant, excuse me, stylist. Yeah, it was. But then it was like this arc of, you know, triumph. I did it. Now I don't even need the stylist. Yeah, which dress for the final did you like better? You know what?

I know nothing about fashion. So I'm going to go with the look that's like more commercial and like boring and it was the one that Kim liked but I'm sure like the stylist who has this like Rolodex and like well of knowledge on style I'm sure the other one was technically more stylish but I just liked the other one no the way I felt about it was like Kim's dress that she was wearing was classic Dolce like beautiful and that's what Dolce is like feminine silhouettes beautiful period this dress that the stylist chose was like very much Kim X Dolce yeah with her PVC plastic which is like so Kim Yeezy vibe but in a Dolce silhouette like it really was a more of a merger of the two of them yeah but is that what

the whole collection was supposed to be I didn't really know what the what the like um for lack of a better word like what the point of the collection was like I just on the show I don't think it was made clear like is this Kim's influence on Dolce is it Dolce's influence on Kim like what was it supposed to be I think it was DJ earworm mashup yeah well then in that case the second dress was better but I do agree with you there is something that's lost in like what is this who is this for and it's I think reflected in the fact that like it's not sold out yeah you and I think the idea that they almost did like a skims dolce collab would have been gangbusters especially when you think about Fendi skims like that shit sold out in hours and stores online it crushed so it's like what this didn't no and that was

so good for Kim and Kourtney had no issue with that oh yeah but aside from Kourtney it's like I don't know I don't know I don't know but it was it was really beautiful to look at obviously she looks unreal and I loved the blonde she was and I and I'm grateful to Courtney for ushering in this era of just like these gorgeous feminine looks and silhouettes because Kim was like made for that yeah and it's so the opposite of like the Balenciaga spandex looks that are just not my favorite speed racer alien spaceship yeah literally yeah great POV Jax thank you I was surprised by how I felt yeah because I think in the past with like the the conversations where like Courtney's kind of the outsider like having an issue I haven't agreed with her so I'm just used to not I'm just used to not I'm just

used yeah I agree I'm just used to not which was why I was like oh and yeah but it was like I think a lot of people were like shocked like Courtney starts breaking down and Kendall's literally just sitting on the other chair not moving like your sister's crying why don't you like rub her shoulder or something like yeah but I feel like Kendall's not like that she's like not very emotive and neither is Courtney actually I don't know I feel like Courtney's low-key always crying the thing is it's like I'm not very emotive but I'm low-key always crying. The thing is, it's like, I'm not very emotive, but I'm low-key always crying. No, such a good point. That's an amazing point.

Right? But, like, if you're crying, do you want someone to rub your shoulder? You feel, like, to me, similar to Kourtney in, like, the sensibility way. Of, like, you mean being, like, very tactile? Yeah. Like, so if you're crying. I don't know, but she, like, used to, like, roughhouse with Khloe, like, wrestling and stuff. Like, that would never be me.

No, she's changed. Yeah. It was a good episode. It was. My girl Kylie was there. So cute. So cute riding horses, giving us nothing. We live for it.

Giving us nothing. Her way of contributing is just doing the B plots. Yeah, the B plots, which I can't believe in all the years is just doing the like plot the b plots yeah the b plots which i can't believe in all the years of them doing the show like they kendall and kylie can't find a better narrative for themselves and like kendall wanting to hang out with kylie and kylie being too cool for her yeah it's it's giving nothing but everything at the same time what the plot was like when they went on that trip with taiga yeah like years ago yeah like their relationship right yeah totally that it's always kind of being like i want to spend more

time with kylie yeah it's like give it up sister she doesn't want to hang like she's not interested like and it's hurtful they should fight about it yeah i think they do i feel like they do even remember last season when like kendall went to Vegas. And the whole time she's complaining that Kylie's not there. And it's like, she gave you her plane. She just had a baby. All of your friends are there.

Have fun. No, totally. It's really, I didn't even, like, put it together. It's the same thing they've been fighting about since they were, like, 17. Yeah. It must be, like, nice for Kylie that everyone's obsessed with her. Yeah. And, like, she just does nothing and nothing and like shows up to ride a horse.

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