The Toast - Down with Carrie with Stassi Schroeder: Tuesday, June 20th, 2023

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to The Toast, to a very special, gorgeous, delightful, stunning episode with somebody we love here at The Toast, somebody who's kind of like so in the news right now, like Scandival, it's Stassi. I know, I'm in the news right now because of Scandival. I know. It's so weird.

It's like all the outside players that technically have nothing to do with it, like I have nothing to do with it. That's not true, because you are responsible for the most pointed, the most iconic line. You selfish, egotistical piece of shit. Because that's literally exactly what it was. I feel like proud of myself. I've been knowing, I knew Sandoval was what he is. Like I knew, but like some people like thought he was cute. And like some people of the show, fans of the show, like like to watch him. Like I've been knowing forever. And I feel like you have too. No, I always got so

frustrated watching the show because I'm like, God, he seems like such a hero when I watch it. But like, no, I know, you know. And so to be honest, ever since you left the show, I haven't really craved your presence there because the show was not good, like for, for a considerable amount of time until obviously this whole thing happened. And I did kind of crave someone who was on the right side of history for so many years. And that was you. Wait, do you know how good that feels to be on the right side of history? I feel like so often I'm not. Same, literally same. Oh, that feels amazing. Yeah, no, I do keep saying that like, what a wasted opportunity this was. You know, if there was one season I would have liked to have been in,

yeah, duh, probably would have been this one. So I could have there was one season I would have liked to have been in, it probably would have been this one. So I could have just given like a big old I told you so. A hundred percent. And I asked Jax this when he was on the podcast

and he was actually pretty honest. I said like, is there any sort of FOMO with, not FOMO, or even like a little resentment about like the show

becoming literally the biggest thing in pop culture and the show was built off the backs of people like you and Jax. Is there any sort of like... Of course there are moments where it's like, oh wow,

like seeing how big it's gotten. It's like when we're not there. I think that that's human nature. Of course. I mean, I would be so not okay. To feel a little bit. Then you get insecure about like, was I not good enough? Did I not do...

Like it's a weird convoluted kind of nuanced feeling because it's like I'm happy that I'm not in that in that but at the same time oh I miss it makes you miss it a little bit yeah yeah and I feel like I don't know I feel like just based as like an outsider watching your life on social media like you really look like you're thriving you're pregnant again you look so beautiful that like you don't I feel like just based as like an outsider watching your life on social media, like you really look like you're thriving. You're pregnant again. You look so beautiful that like you don't, I feel like for a while, like the show was like really the center of your universe and now you have such a full life outside of it. Yeah. No. Like, cause when I think about like, what would that be like to film again? My life is so different where yes, Vanderpump Rules used to be the center of my world.

I organized my life around the show. Yeah. So, and now, I just, I couldn't imagine going to the places and doing the things that would be required from being on a show like Vanderpump Rules. Yeah. I have to imagine at, like, the height of it when you guys were so young and, like, really just, like, drinking all the time. Like, it was so toxic. I totally miss drinking all the time. Like it was so toxic.

I totally miss drinking all the time. I know. You know, we only have a little while left. How far along are you? Seven months. And you're having a boy.

Yeah. And are you so excited? No, ridiculously excited because I am not the favorite in the house. Bo is Hartford's favorite. Daddy's girl.

And it's about time I am number one. That's hurtful. I'm not going to lie. No, I've cried multiple, multiple times. I mean sobbing, dry heaving, crying because I feel left out in my own house. I mean, you literally gave birth to her. No, it's like she doesn't understand. She doesn't realize.

She will. One day I'm going to slap the sense into her. She will understand one day. And I feel like that's like a huge part of growing up. It's like you actually end up like having so much gratitude and respect for your parents. Like dealing with you. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah.

No, your time is coming, Stassi. Well, you look great. You're just like doing the most. Honestly, you exhaust me. Like I'm a deeply lazy person. No, you're not. And I'm not even pregnant no Claudia you're not no no I really I'm like at my core I'm like a lazy slob and I love that about myself it's like a cornerstone of my personality you are doing the most and you're so pregnant okay

this is the thing my first pregnancy was during COVID I was not allowed to leave my house all I could do was sit around and watch Outlander, the great British bake-off show and bake sweets and eat them all day long. I didn't get to put on outfits. I didn't do anything. So I, that was one of the reasons I was scared to get pregnant for a second time because I have all of this. It's like, I feel like a little triggered, like, yeah. Oh my God. Does that mean that I'm going to be confined to my house again? And so I am trying to do the most because the first time I did nothing. That's a good explanation. And now you're like dressing up your bump,

which you never got to do because you were probably in pajamas all day. Yes. And you look so good on tour. Like I came to see your show. It was so good. You looked like I wanted to kill you. Thank you. So beautiful.

And you wear shoes that like I could never wear and you're pregnant. Well, that is because they make me feel so much better about myself. Like when I put a heel on, I mean, I instantly, my, my self-esteem just rises so immensely. So does mine. Cause like then my legs look longer. Like you can't really see the cellulite. Like that I get. And there's nothing worse than when you're on tour and then you see everyone posting

the videos of you and they're all from down low and you're like, I'm a troll. I'm a beast. I hate myself hate myself so yeah the higher the heel that is such a niche reference and I could not agree more that is probably one of my least favorite things about being a performer is the fact that I'm up on an elevated surface and everybody taking a photo of me is below me yeah like and I don't even wear dresses or skirts if I did that would probably bring like another element of panic but like the chin the it's horrible it's horrible horrible it's offensive yeah well I haven't noticed you've just been looking truly radiant well I'm only reposting the ones that that I look good in I understand and I respect that I really truly do well I saw the show it was so good I have to ask you something because I feel like we're actually in like a similar position with our husbands like okay when your husband

came out on stage oh my god like the girlies in the audience were losing their minds like they're obsessed and he's hysterical don't get me wrong but like he wasn't like doing anything crazy and they were like loving it and that's how i feel about my husband like when he comes on the podcast and stuff it's like he doesn't even do anything and everyone's like that was the best episode ever like we need ben on every episode i'm like really like I'm sitting right here I'm sitting right here like what did I I was like doing the most yeah and nobody even noticed I'm carrying this yeah no literally and it's like it's kind of hard not to become resentful do you agree you know what I think of it is this I feel like because our husbands are really good people and people sense that I actually genuinely

think that so they could do the least. And receive. Yes. And people would still love it. Because I think that you can just sense and see that, like, wow, those are really good men. Yeah. Bo really is the best. No, he is. He is the best person that I know.

How did you guys meet? Kristen and Katie introduced us. Oh, damn. Everything comes back to Vanderpump Rules. Everything always fucking comes back to Vanderpump Rules. How did they know him? How did they know him? Just mutual friends.

Like, he would hang out in some of, like, the circles that, like, Kristen would hang out with, like, other groups of friends that she had. And I remember she showed me his Instagram, and I was like, oh, he's hot, and he looks different than anyone else I've ever dated before. And that's how that happened. You know, one of the great crimes of the last few years is we never really got so much Bo on Vanderpump Rules. It was like one or two seasons. But you guys weren't engaged yet.

Oh, actually, you got engaged on the show. But there was just not enough. We really never got to live with you and Bo. But how amazing is that? The mystery of it. For you. But like, but also we're living in people's heads

where we stopped, where it's, you know, we weren't on it long enough for the producers to be like, you know what? We're going to really need to give you a bad season.

Yes. Let's like dig. Let's dig deep. That's so true. We never got a Bo bad season. Yeah. So he just lives, he's like permanently frozen

in everyone's mind. Yeah. At the age of like whatever he was back then. Yeah. That's gorgeous. Now the age old question, you know, I'm sure everyone asks like return to reality TV question mark.

Um, I think that if there was something that again, I didn't feel like I had to change my life to be involved in, then I would like, I, I really do miss it. I love it, but I just don't want to disrupt my life. Yeah. Like it really does actually, like it gives me anxiety when I think about, cause I really try and imagine what it would be like to film again. And if I were to change my life, that then affects your relationship and it affects your children. It just, it affects family members. Would you put your kids on the show it depends on the show yeah that's fair that's fair yeah um by the way i don't know if you want to respond but jack's

had a lot to say about you when he came on the toast i heard because i'm a toaster so obviously i listened so i was like oh you know yeah i honestly i didn't think he said anything like incriminating or bad say anything bad he just didn't say the truth that's right so he basically said like he really doesn't know why you're upset with him and you know it was if it's about the wedding it was just you know like his kid's passport last minute like didn't come through this is the thing i would understand that um it's the fact that you know me and bo had texted him and britney weeks prior saying um we hear you're talking a little shit oh about how you're not going to be coming to our wedding, which is interesting because you have RSVP'd and you're some of our closest friends. So I,

what the fuck is that? And they denied and denied, denied. I gave them the opportunity to back out. Yes. And they didn't. And then as I was getting on the plane, the day I left for the airport to fly to Italy, I got a text from Brittany. So that feels way more hurtful. Yes. There are lots of friends that couldn't make it to my wedding. And you also couldn't make it to my wedding. You had such a small wedding.

Yes, and I think that was a huge part of why it hurt even more, because I had to cut so many family members, so many family members, so many people that I would have loved to have been there. So they took up two spaces. Right. And then we're just, you know, Jax was doing what Jax does. Yeah. And texting, talking shit.

Well, that's really hurtful to talk shit about someone's wedding. And for him to say, what really bothers me is when, it feels weird to even be talking about it because it's like a later and i understand people are like get over it i'm like i am over it but that doesn't mean that i have to go be besties with people again um i think what hurts the most too is that he's like weirder went to their first wedding i'm like oh he did say that we didn't get to have one we literally just signed papers and in your backyard right in katie's backyard during my baby shower during covid with less than 10 people and i had specifically said you guys are just witnessing us signing these papers this is not our wedding we're still hoping we can get

married in italy like they knew that it wasn't a wedding it's not a fucking wedding no and also that's so funny because the way he said it at first I was like wait Stassi's been married before I know he's like her first husband I was like wait what am I saying I thought Beau was her first husband yeah listen like I I do I miss them at times and like I I love catching like I I follow them still and see what they're up to in their lives and Cruz is so cute and all of that. But like, they hurt me. Yep. They really did. And it feels like I don't, I can't trust them anymore. Yeah, you're totally entitled to like be upset. And I had a feeling, I love Jax, but like, you know,

and I relate to Jax in this way. Like I see things through my own lens. And sometimes like when somebody else will recount a story to me, I'm like, no, that's literally not how it happened. You know what I mean? No, I know. I'm like, I'm telling you I was there. And I'm not a reliable witness. You know what I mean? No, I know. I'm like, I'm telling you I was there. And I'm not a reliable witness.

You know, Jackie always says that. Like, if I tell Jackie a story, she has to, like, hear it from someone else to, like, make sure I'm not lying. And I'm not lying. I just, like, that's how I experienced it. I swear. 100%.

No, there are times Bo and I joke all the time because, like, Bo will remember something. And I'm like, you're remembering that I told you this story. You weren't even there. No. He's like, yes, I was there. I'm like, you're not there. You were not there. No weren't even there. No. He's like, yes, I was there. I'm like, you're not there.

You were not there. No, that's so bad. That was a girls' night, though. Oh, speaking of girls' night, we got some gorgeous Instagram story footage from you about the new sandwich shop. Can you give us an update? Like, when is that? It looked ready to go.

I feel like it's going to open this summer. I feel like it's, like, not far off. It's so beautiful. It it's like parisian chic meets like montecito jackie and i both said when when you posted those instagram stories aesthetically it reminded me a lot of you like very parisian there's like blue and white yeah yeah yeah it was very saucy gold touch it was beautiful no i i mean i'm so happy for them and i'm happy for myself because i feel like there aren't that many good sandwich shops in Los Angeles. So I'm like, y'all are going to be on Postmates.

Right? No Uber Eats. I just. You think you'll get free sandwiches or you're going to support local female-owned businesses? I'm going to support. Yeah. Good for you. Couldn't be me.

If I know someone with a restaurant, I'm like, yeah, I'll be there. 10 o'clock. Sir doesn't even give me free food. Really? The way that I have bled out for Sir. That's. Do you eat at Sir? If I were to go into dinner i get a bill i would get it 100 yeah that's like disgusting it's a little wild but it's okay two things one can you pull your mic a little bit closer to your mouth yes i'm so sorry normally i have headphones on so you can hear yourself so i

can hear when i'm yeah and my second thing, what is your current relationship status with LVP? Every time I see her, she has been so lovely and so nice. I think the last time I saw her, we went to her house for Pandora's son's birthday. And I'm great. Good. Great.

Okay, good. Yeah. Now you are a big pop culture girly, which is why you're one of my favorite. Yeah, yeah, let's do this. You're one of my favorite people to co-host with. Cause there's no like, you know, with Ben sometimes I have to like be like, so then this happened and then she's from that movie.

You remember her? We watched it on the plane. Like he, you don't require any sort of backstory explaining. Do this shit. Now, before we dive in, I do have one sex in the city story. And when I have a co-host on, I always like to ask them their thoughts on the sex in the city characters. Cause I feel like it sets a good because I have like there I have a hot I have hot takes oh no I have we have hot takes although I don't think my takes

are hot anymore I think that we've all collectively agreed that Carrie is the fucking worst okay so pretty much I just wanted to make sure that you agreed with that because like I hate no if when I tell you like when I meet women who are like no no, Carrie's the best, I'm like, you need to be weeded out of the world. No, you obviously haven't re-watched the show as, like, an adult. Correct. With responsibilities and friends. Because as a kid, sure, yes, she's the most fabulous and she's, like, the main character. So you're like, oh, she's the best.

Then you re-watch as you get older. You're like, wait, this bitch is the fucking worst. So selfish. So selfish. So financially irresponsible. Yes. That could never be mean like literally has that episode where she i always bring this up oh ask charlotte to give her ring are you fucking kidding me yeah no it's like if that episode were to happen nowadays no no no cancel

growing up is realizing carrie was the villain of that show and honestly we grow up thinking like miranda's the worst no miranda's the best yep i know whenever i say that people are like you're just trying to be a contrarian i'm like no i'm not no i'm sorry miranda's so funny she's such she's so cynical which what makes is what makes her funny and i feel like that's very new yorker of her and i think we all just judged her because she had like weird outfits and like a weird haircut and like that wasn't the vibe we were more into like the fabulosity of the show. And she doesn't really contribute in terms of like fabulousness. Yeah. But she is.

And I'm not talking about the new show because the new show is horrible. I'm talking about like the OG show. She was the best. Her and Samantha. No. I mean, honestly, I love Charlotte too. Me too. Me too.

But she's not my favorite. But she's not my least favorite. I mean, I don't have a favorite. Honestly, I'm thinking about it. I don't have. I mean, besides least favorite. Yeah. Yeah.

No. Carrie sucks. Okay. I just wanted to like down with Carrie because I can't I can't with people who are like Carrie I'm such a Carrie I'm like okay so you're the worst all right you guys Stassi's gonna help me she's gonna do what we do best the fast five stories that you need to know today's episode is sponsored by BetterHelp it's so easy to get caught up on what everyone else needs from you and never take a moment to think about what you need from yourself. I mean, everyone knows I'm such a giver. I never think about myself.

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I know. Really just do the damn thing. Maybe me and Jackie were actually talking like after she gives birth. We need to do like an L.A. week. Yes. So you would be a perfect L.A. week person. Please. Yeah.

Don't leave me out. I promise. I will get the fucking FOMO. I promise. All right. Courtney Kardashian has debuted her baby bump days after announcing her pregnancy at Travis Barker's concert. So Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian are welcoming a baby bump days after announcing her pregnancy at Travis Barker's concert. So Travis Barker and Kourtney Kardashian are welcoming a baby two days after announcing

they're expecting their first child together. The Kardashian star gave fans a closer look at her pregnancy. She took to Instagram on June 18th and she bared her bump in a series of photos taken at Travis's Blink-182 concert where she made the big reveal. So there was like a lot of chatter about the big reveal because at first everyone was like, Oh my God, Courtney's pregnant. Let's unpack that. Then everybody wanted to unpack the announcement. I think a lot of people didn't understand like the pop culture reference and thought that she was just standing there.

That she was telling Travis for the first time in front of all these people. Which is not her vibe. That is not their vibe. I mean, he's so fucking up her ass. Like you think there's one thing that goes on in her body that he doesn't know about? 100%.

He probably could like sense her ovulating just like from her aura like they're so connected there's no way like there's no way and i don't think people understood that like it's a reference from his old music video where some girls like standing outside his concert holding a sign that says travis i'm pregnant so once you understand that like you know for sure that it's not his finding out moment i think that was her equivalent to like someone like me being a basic bitch and posting a sonogram photo on Instagram. A hundred percent. I thought hers was so creative and so cute. Yeah. I loved it. At first I didn't understand the reference immediately. So I also was like, wait, is she telling him? And then some people were like

accusing them of being fraudulent, being like, he actually knew this is fake like people are so no dumb no stop but now that now looking at it at a glance having all the information i thought it was so cute do people really think that she's gonna keep that secret and announce announce to the world the same time she announces to her husband no that's so impersonal yeah and they're so like you know they're so connected yes and by the way she's pretty far along she has like a bump i think once i saw the bump i was like what do you think she's like five months i don't know months i like think in terms of weeks okay i want to say like she's giving like 17 week energy so it's between like four and five right right i think so isn't that what it is pregnancy math makes no it fucking sucks literally

no sense no and what makes less sense to me is toddler math oh no I'm good at that like how old is Hartford when people ask oh I don't do that anymore she's two and a half okay she's not 30 months once they turn two I don't do that anymore okay but she was like 18 she was 23 months you were saying that yeah that confuses me but like I guess there really is such a difference between like a 20 month and a 22 month there is like in terms of milestones you should know because you have so many nieces and nephews or yes so like it is different they're so different but like once you turn two i feel like it you're like a kid yeah yeah or the terrible two is a real thing the way i was so excited for this trip.

The way I was so excited to bring Hartford. Hartford's in New York. She's in New York. I'm like, she's going to be like Hartford at the Carlisle, you know, like Eloise at the Plaza. But like, she's just like, I can't wait. I planned so many things for her. So many gorgeous, fun activities. The way she has channeled the brattiest version of herself and had tantrum after tantrum

we've had to leave every dinner and lunch early oh i'm just like i get so my blood has run cold in public so many times because i'm just so embarrassed do you think she's like jet lagged i don't know maybe i i just like or it's just bo jokes that like you know we did go to the plaza for tea and he's like the ghost you know when like in the conjuring when like a ghost latches on to a family it's like Eloise latched on to Hartford and you need to have an exorcism 100% but it has been so nice having her here but yeah she has we keep just looking at each other and being like it's a phase like we'll survive we'll survive twos. That's why they say terrible twos. And I'm sure when you travel without her,

it's, like, so devastating. And then she's here and she's burning it. Like, you can't win. No, I know. Seriously. Damn. Well, I find this news, like, so cute and shocking. Because on this show, the Kardashians,

they had spoken about her. They did, like, intensive IVF, IUI. Like, she got her eggs retrieved. And it just wasn't in the cards. And it was really hard on her. And she was like, you know what? It's in God's plan now. So to see somebody who tried so hard and like it didn't work out and then just like kind of, you know, let go of the idea and be like, what happens happens for it to happen for her. Like, I actually think is so sweet. I think that the Kardashians can do anything they put their mind. I know. Like I really, what do you you think can i ask you something about that kardashians have you been on the tiktok like path where people are talking about how the

kardashians are on their way out i have and jackie i try and swipe out of it because i don't like that content jackie and i have spoken about it i don't think that they're on their way out i think they're definitely experiencing like some sort of like flop era but that's good yeah I think it's I think it's natural it's just they haven't really had one this like monumental I think it was a series of unfortunate events but the only way to have an epic comeback yes and to or to show any growth or change is to have a flop era so like everyone needs a flop era every now and then and I I think something like this, where it's like so wholesome, this pregnancy, so wholesome the announcement was not like, you know, tacky or it was just like really sweet. I think things like this really endear people to the Kardashians because at the end of the day,

like they are a family and the things that are important to them are really the things that are important to most people, like, you know, loyalty and they're very, you know, they're religious, like faith. I think a lot of people connect to like a lot of their core values. And so something like this, I think, reminds people like they're really at the end of the day, they're just like a family. Yes. You know, Courtney wanted to get pregnant and that was something she struggled with

that so many people struggle with. So like this, something like this, I think, is really good for the family. And they have had like a hard year in terms of like public perception, I think. But I don't think they're out. No. Forever. I don't think they're ever going to be out. No, no no what do

you what do you think about Kylie Jenner dressing like Sofia Regina I mean I love it Jackie had a really interesting take on it that like totally changed my perception of I think for a really long time like the cool way of dressing was like very provocative and thotty and that's just not a trend I'll ever participate in one because my body limit limits me in that. But also it's just like not my style. No, I could be the hottest bitch out there. I could look like Lala Kent. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And I would never dress. I can't. Like it just, I feel uncomfortable. Same. It's not who I am. And that's not judging other people who do. It's just not who I am. And so for Sofia Richie to make dressing modest, cool,

is such a powerful thing. Because now all these girls who used to like run around with their tits out are now like wearing blazers and slacks it's actually amazing what she's done for the culture okay i i have a hot take let's hear it i don't like it because i feel like that's already the style that i've had for so long and now that it's popular everyone's dressing like me and then it's gonna become unpopular and I'm still gonna be here left dressing granny chic and then I'm gonna look like I'm just behind on the trend but that is the most you thing ever because you are proudly a basic bitch and now the thing that you love the most your style style, has become the most kind of common, borderline basic.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Now, actually, whenever I do co-hosts, I'm always like, Jackie and I think this. But Jackie and I were just talking about this, how we really feel strongly that you are not basic. Wow. You are so different. I feel like you march to the beat of your own drum.

You don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. And yes, of your interests like ranch yeah it's like basic but you really at your core like you're not a basic person you're like deeply original okay well I think it all depends on on your definition of basic that's true because my definition of basic is just really like being unafraid to lean into the things that you really love and it's like about being like passionate and excited about things it's like Taylor Swift energy yes I know I know exactly what I mean yeah like that's my definition embarrassed to be excited about something correct like that's my definition of basic okay so when it comes to that I feel like I'm truly basic that I agree with but when I think

it comes to like style and just like aesthetic and your home like your home is so I've never walked well I've never been in your house but I've never seen a house that was styled like that by like a young millennial woman wait thank you that is one of the best compliments like right under like wow sassy you're a really good mom like yeah telling me that like my home and the style of it is. It's so different. Even the house that you bought is like an older, more charming home. I feel like all the houses in LA

like look like mental institutions that are made of cement and windows. Like you are so different in that sense and you're so not basic in that. Thank you. But I understand your definition of basic and I agree. And I love that Taylor Swift quote.

Like people, there's nothing worse than somebody who makes fun of someone for being excited about something or like why don't you just like lower your voice like excuse me I haven't heard that one no like people who like tell you like calm down when you're excited about something yeah totally yeah um okay the next story is I know something you are it's like so you like it's so something you would be obsessed with and I think a lot of people are really kind of quaking about the search and rescue operation that is underway for a submersive submersible touring the wreck of the titanic basically a submarine so officials are in a race against time

to find a civilian submarine they keep calling it a submersible and i'm not calling it that a submarine that had five people aboard after it went missing on Sunday in the North Atlantic while voyaging to the wreckage of the Titanic. The 21-foot vessel has four days of emergency capability, the leader of the search and rescue effort said Monday afternoon, as crews with the U.S. and Canadian Coast Guards continued scouring the ocean surface about 900 miles east of Cape Cod and used sonar to listen for sounds far below the surface, which is up to 13,000 feet deep in the area. So there are five people on board the vessel, which was an expedition to view the wreckage of the Titanic. It was comprised of one pilot and four mission specialists. They haven't

identified the five people, but they have figured out who one of the people is based on social media, a British businessman based in the United Arab Emirates. His name is Hamish Harding, is one of the people on the submarine, according to a social media post by the company he owns. So there's also today, this morning, I saw one of the people in there is a father and son. And the son is 19 years old. When I tell you I could not sleep last night. I know.

I could not sleep. night i know i could not sleep all i i just wanted to look at these these videos these tiktoks everything did you see that it's they did a tour of the submarine it's not big it's it's no it's the smallest and there's one little round window and it the controller that they use to control it is a ps3 excuse me i'm not fucking joking i didn't make this up it's in multiple tiktoks like an like a an interview that they did here's what i don't understand because i saw a picture of a submarine i saw that little window so if you're gonna go all the way down to view the wreckage and there's one tiny little window for five people i don't understand

the the i don't oh and jackie also told me a crazy statistic so they have four days of emergency supplies i think i saw last night that like, they have like probably 96 hours to find it. But Jackie had said like, if they wanted to build a submarine that was powerful enough to go down and like find to use for search and rescue, it would take 30 years for that submarine to be built.

The equipment in order to properly like find these people actually doesn't exist, which is what's so scary. Oh my God. Well, also I read that the most dangerous rescue missions they've ever done was 11 000 feet higher than what this is so if they were able to find them this will be the deepest rescue mission right like i'm the way like this is if i choose if i allow myself to think about it too much it will be the only thing I think about like what are they doing right now no all I can yeah what are they doing they're in there right

now do you think that they're at the point where they've lost hope do you think that they're definitely games like do you do you think that I don't I don't know but like also and I don't want to like get too dark okay so they say they have four days of emergency supply so that obviously means like food right um and oxygen oxygen so what does that mean does that mean we're all i think we're on like 60 hours now so but what does that mean does that mean like i don't what happens when you run out of oxygen like you just pass out and die well i don't know exactly like the pain is it like you do you suffocate fuck but like there's also like let's see there's also like still air they're like in do you know what you Fuck. But like there's also like still air. They're like in.

Do you know what I mean? No, but it's not oxygen. It's not what you can breathe. It's not what you can breathe. But I also read that right now they could be getting hypothermia. Oh, because they're so far down and it's so cold down there. And like, oh, my God, there are so many videos on TikTok. Like someone was doing an interview and they're like, he just had lost hope.

The way that he was interviewing was like he was this titanic expert or submarine titanic expert and he's just like i think that something went wrong immediately and they're not even here anymore oh yeah like it was like the pressure the water pressure like crushed it or something like that something went wrong but also the submarine being 21 feet that's like not big at all and so you're literally looking for a needle in a haystack because you're so far down it's what but they're supposed to be by the titanic it's not like they're scanning a whole that's so true i'm like you hope you we know where they went by the way if somebody would have asked me where the wreck of the titanic was i

would not have said 900 miles off the coast of cape cod I literally thought it was like in London. I don't know. Like, like I saw it from, it was from London to New York, but they were like pretty close or to Boston, I think, but they were like pretty close to Boston. Okay.

I didn't realize. So they were like, they were more than halfway there. I think that's unless the wreckage, I kind of floated, but I, I just was shocked at the map. I'm just shocked at the whole thing.

I feel like I can't believe we're living in a time where this is happening. No, I know. It is. And to know that there, if something hasn't gone wrong, like if they're still there, like right now, as we're talking about this, they're working with each other. I'm trying to figure out they're going through all of the emotions and all the like phases of like accepting right and like you can't just like disembark like and start swimming because you're literally so far down right yeah no you were just stuck in there and i think if you even like went swimming like not swimming but

like if you if they had the pressure the water the water pressure would kill you like yeah it's like freezing it's so like the sea level is being shot out into space right right so and this is a private mission being in poopoo oh my god the bathroom no i was thinking about that there is like a little toilet on that one right but it's you're in there with and there's five people yeah oh my god like i'm i it's my worst nightmare like but this isn't like an official government it was like a private company doing this two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a ticket that's insane to see through one little window I mean Taylor had a really good point because I was I asked her about it last night and she was like Taylor Strecker and she was like you know these

billionaires like really wealthy people it's like normal activities yeah it's a thrill-seeking thing like they're they get to experience so much of life that it's like what can we push that's like everyone going to space that's also like 250 grand a ticket i would never i would i would never i have zero desire honestly i have zero desire to leave my house on a Friday night. A hundred percent. And do you know how uncomfortable that rocket ship is? Let's say something happened. We had to chill in space for a while.

There's no bed. There's no TV. I am so content here on Earth. Earth has everything I need. Agreed. Uber, Seamless, Uber Eats. There's nothing I don't need that it doesn't exist for me here on earth I agree I agree so I will never be and maybe it's just that I'm not rich rich

enough but I don't need to to go to space no it's not about being rich enough it's it no it's about being happy in your life like these people who pay a quarter of a million dollars to go to space for 30 seconds like seriously what's the point wild point? Wild. This story is so sad. It's so scary. And it's just like if you think about it too long, like it's freaky. No, that's what I mean. Like if I allow my brain to really go there and really think about it, I fully spiral. And like I really do recommend everyone looking up like searching on TikTok and seeing all these videos.

Also, everyone in the comment section is like really savage and funny. And'm like this is not this is not the time this is not the time like i'm not one to be like inappropriate i never i never feel that way but like yeah you guys they're dying yeah i know and do you think like i mean then you also have to think about like the human nature element of it it's it could it could very quickly turn Like Lord of the Flies You know Once you know that like Things are Not gonna end well

Yeah you know that the oxygen Is gonna run out So maybe you kill the other four So that you can have more oxygen Right Until people find you Oh my god No like it's

That's what happens Like you're kind of Claudia No the way that my brain Did not go there You're like survivor's instinct Kicks in You know there's only so much food So much oxygen Like you're kind of in your way that my brain did not go there. You're like survivors instinct kicked kicks in, you know,

there's only so much food, so much oxygen. Like, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Oh my God. Totally separate.

I have to tell you the craziest thing that happened to me last night. I, people need to know what happened to me. Okay. Now let me set the scene. Okay. I read the spookiest thriller book before bed last night. It was so good good it was called

Never Lie by Freda McFadden I highly recommend so I'm just like feeling on edge like before bed I shouldn't have read it before bed but it was so good so Ben gets home he had been to dinner we like hang out whatever we're going to sleep it's really early it's like 10 30 but I have we have a long day today because we're driving to Boston so I was like you know what let's go to bed early 10 30 my husband, like one of the things I hate most about him, 10 seconds, he could fall asleep. Yeah, no.

He has nothing on his mind. What the fuck, both two? I know. I have to take like massive amounts of melatonin. Like Unisom, don't worry, it's pregnancy safe. My doctor's approved it. Oh, that's good to know. Yeah. So I'm just like annoyed

and it's like 10.30, it's 11, it's 11.30, it's 12. And at about like 12.30, Ben is passed out. I'm like, I'm not asleep, but I'm like feeling, I'm starting to get tired but i'm like you don't let me pee so i don't turn on any of the lights and i'm sitting in the pitch black on the toilet and i'm peeing and i'm just kind of like looking down and i look up and in the doorway of the bathroom there's a man okay there's a man standing there okay and I let out the most blood-curdling scream it was actually you know I've never been in like think you know knock what thank god like immense danger before but that's I never know I never knew what sound my voice would make if I was ever in like fight or flight right I I can't i don't even remember it was blood like scream and as i'm

screaming i realized that the man in front of me has been it's pitch black so ben doesn't see me on the toilet he's he's trying to pee but he hears you were in there he didn't know i was in there and i didn't know he was in there so he's trying to pee. But he hears... You were in there. He didn't know I was in there and I didn't know he was in there. So, he's trying to go pee and he hears this like by the lawn fire crazy scream. And Ben then lets out, like he was just trying to pee and it's pitch black. He just hears a woman screaming. He starts screaming like his kind of danger like danger danger scream. What does his sound like? I was so triggered I don't even remember. We just both I'm sitting on the toilet

he's standing in the doorway of the bathroom. We're both just screaming. And you know after a few seconds we both realized we're not in danger and that the person, the woman screaming in the bathroom is me and the man standing in the doorway is Ben. But when I tell you, like, it took me 25 seconds to like realize what was going on to calm down. I literally called my doorman because I'm like, our neighbors are going to think it was like an actual, if somebody had, if you had woken up in the middle of the night with

a knife over you, that's the sounds we were making. Correct. Okay. I called the doorman and I was like, if anybody calls you about a scream, like it was me. We're fine. It was just like a misunderstanding. But I'm like, I couldn't decide whose fault it was. And I also couldn't decide whose experience was more scary.

It was clearly Ben's fault. Like he didn't realize getting out of bed that I wasn't in the bed. But I can imagine for Ben, it's pitch black. He's just going to pee. And all of a sudden he hears like the most insane, like high pitch. And you have like Samara vibes with your hair. What is Samara? Is that the woman from The Ring?

Yeah. Yeah. But I am a firm belief. Like I believe my experience was more scary. Like to just look up and see the shadow of a man standing in your bathroom. In the middle of the night. When you've already read this book. I don't feel like it's a competition it no I do very equal no I think it was very equal whose fault was it well definitely wasn't your fault

yes no like it definitely wasn't your fault whether it was anyone's fault is questionable that's up for debate but like it wasn't yours and the most insane thing like i'm shaking stassi like i'm like on the verge of tears i don't know whether to laugh or cry because the whole thing is so absurd but i'm like i'm actually like shaking i'm like ben like we get back in bed i'm like he's passed out i'm like you don't want to talk about what just happened he's like so tired i'm like are you i'm are you okay? Like you're asleep right now. How can you sleep at a time like this? Passed out. And then this morning he woke up.

I'm like, we need to talk about last night. He's like, what happened? I'm like, what? Wait, like it's a fight that you guys got in. No. That were like that you went to bed angry. And you woke up and you're like, we need to discuss it now. After 10 seconds, he's like, oh yeah, that was crazy.

I'm like, crazy? That was psychotic. Oh my God. I totally forgot about that until this morning thank you for letting me like it was the craziest i have to stop reading thrillers before bed don't you get nervous or like embarrassed that like your neighbors might think that like you're having a domestic like something dispute like yeah the thing is people in my building are so, like, not nosy. Oh, that's nice. Like, they keep to themselves. But then I'm like, I wish you would be nosy because I'm screaming in the middle of the night.

Good point. Good point. Yeah. And the next, I did find out this morning, somebody did call, which, like, made me, I was like, oh, thank God. Because something actually happened. I want, you know, everyone calling once I scream. Yeah. So it made me feel good.

But the second we stopped screaming, my first instinct that's like, so New York, I was like, I have to call the doorman because like, it's such a crazy, it was such a crazy sound that I made.

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During a concert in New York City. And the man who threw it has been arrested. So she was knocked to the ground. During her Sunday night show. At the rooftop at Pier 17 in Lower Manhattan. The phone hit Bebe on the forehead. In the middle of a song. Splitting her eyebrow.

And requiring stitches. She was escorted immediately off the stage. And treated by a medical team at the venue as seen in footage on TikTok. So the guy who threw the phone, his name is Nicholas Malvagna. He's 27. He's from Manalapan, New Jersey, and he is accused of throwing the phone. He was arrested at the venue, charged with felony assault for using his cell phone as

a weapon. The NYPD confirmed to People magazine he will be arraigned later Monday. Police confirmed that Bebe Rexha was taken to a nearby hospital in stable condition. as a weapon the nypd confirmed to people magazine he will be arraigned later monday police confirmed that bb rexa was taken to a nearby hospital in stable condition she posted on instagram sharing what appeared to be like a brutal wound yeah i'm saying i'm good in a nod to her uh latest hit song so she's handling it like a champ but the footage is like really upsetting i know it's wild like i hate this guy yes at first i couldn't tell if it was like an accident. Because, you know, a lot of artists will be like, give me your phone.

And like maybe, you know, she wanted to like record something and he tossed it. But it was very like, I wasn't sure. But then it looked like it was. It was a phone flying through the air. Overhand, not underhand. But like, so who's going to pay money to go to a show where they're going to use

their own phone to hurt someone? It makes no sense. It makes no sense. I know, and it's like, it's not like even something you can do anonymously. It's your phone. We just open it up

and see who's in the background and we know it's you. Yeah. You can't get away with this sort of crime. Like, I want to know, like, was this fully premeditated and how long?

Like was he planning it for weeks, days? That's what, people are so deeply unwell. No, 100%. And as somebody who toured. Yeah, I know. It's my worst nightmare.

Wait, the other night when we were on stage, all of the sudden there was this deep, giant, ominous scream from someone in the audience. We thought it was it. We thought like, and all of a sudden they were going,

you're just a worm with a mustache. But I tell you, I thought it was over. It was like the great and powerful Oz sounding in this in the audience and me Bo and Taylor froze and I thought this is it like this is fully it I couldn't even like get the words out to be like everybody get under your seat get under your seat and it was somebody saying you're just a worm with a mustache so I totally know what you're talking about it's like the littlest things when you're on stage you're so vulnerable like yeah the littlest things like a footstep or somebody getting up to go to the bathroom yeah that freaks me out like sometimes I'll I'll hear people like walking just like go

to the bar or go to the bathroom but it sounds because of like the echo on the stage it sounds like they're coming from behind me and it freaks me out I'm like always like on edge and it's hard because you're like trying to perform and like yeah you know entertain people but you're so on edge that I know exactly like sometimes just the tone of someone's voice at the very beginning can just set you off and make you think you're in danger yes so for something like this to actually happen to actually happen oh my god it's my worst nightmare I feel so bad for and she's like having such a good attitude about the whole thing like how does she ever go and perform again I don't know I'd be like that that's it for me. I know. That's it. I mean music concerts are more like high energy. And I feel like crazier things happen at music concerts.

But still like how do you even prevent this from happening? You can't take people's phones. I don't know. I'm like I'm so. This is like such an upsetting story. Yeah. And I. Her.

Her face looks like brutal. It's like a full blown black eye. Stitches. Yeah. Her eye is purple. It's like bulging. It's like a full-blown black eye. Stitches. Yeah. Her eye is purple. It's like bulging. It's like a major, you just think a phone is a phone,

but a phone is very heavy. Yes. And when it's being thrown. Chucked. And when you least expect it, you're singing in your cute outfits. Yeah. I feel so bad for her.

Yeah. It's really upsetting and I really hope she's okay. And like honestly, I hope this man gets what's coming to him so that it like discourages anyone else from doing this. Because if people think they can get away with stuff like this, people are not well. Yes, I know.

People are insane. I'm like, I have three shows left. Now I'm fucking scared. I know. I have to. I can't lie. Like, I can't wait for your tour to be over. Like, you've took away like my only friend.

I know. I'm sorry. I don't have a lot. I'm sorry. Literally only three days, three shows left. Where are the remaining shows? Are there tickets available?

I don't, I don't know that there's tickets available. It's LA. Oh, that's a big one. Is that your birthday? It's my birthday. That's exciting.

Well, I'm scared about that one because I feel like if there are people that don't like me, they're going to be in LA. Like if they wanted to show up and throw a phone at me, that would be the location.

Not to like be so self-promotional, but did you ever read my book? It's if you didn't I did not that's totally fine so there is a by the way I'm literally not offended in all fairness you didn't send me one I didn't no so if so I need to go I'll send you home with a copy to go and but I'm not I'm not offended in the slightest like I swear to god I don't take it personally like my husband like I had to literally hold a gun to his head for him to read my book I know but it's fine but there is a story in there actually that has to deal with Taylor Strecker when I got canceled um I had like no work and I had no money coming in so like the only thing I could really do to like generate revenue and just like get out of my house was

to do live shows which is like the scariest thing yeah because you just think you know that you always think your situation is worse than it is but like mine was pretty bad and I was like everyone hates me everyone hates me and Taylor Strecker, like, the day of my show. And she was like, I do not want to give you a pit. Like, I don't want to give you anxiety. But I just heard this thing. And I just, I didn't know what to do with this information. So, like, I have to give it to you.

She's like, somebody, I forget who it was. But it was somebody, like, reputable who, like, works in the industry. Had told Taylor Strecker that people were planning to protest outside my show. And she was like, I don't know what you want to do but like I just thought I should tell you and I'm like oh my god thank you I was so panicky I mean I had no choice it was literally the day of the show it ended up raining really bad that night and nobody ever protested and I don't know if that's because the rumor was a lie or because you know my sense of self-importance was just like you know way born out of proportion or because it was raining um but it was the scariest night of my life claudia the way i

would have probably canceled i know i thought about it like that is that's terrifying especially i know what that feels like yeah when you're in a situation when you're canceled and but it's like canceled but people get so invested that they they become maniacal yes and you hear you literally do fear for your life at times. The thought of somebody like doing something crazy and like bringing a knife or something

is not that far fetched. It's not far fetched. Like it happens to people quite often. Yeah. Yes. Far more than you would think than it does.

Yes. So that just reminded me of, yes, to have that panic. But no, your LA show is going to be amazing. And you're doing the Wiltern? No,

we did the Wiltern. I'm doing the Ace Hotel. I've done it. It's literally the most beautiful. The Ace Hotel? It's insanely gorgeous. That's what everyone says. All the photos that I keep looking at, I'm like, oh, it looks like the Gilded Age.

Yes, it's so you. Yeah. By the way, whatever happened to the show The Gilded Age? I feel like it's coming back. Is it? Yeah. When? I just know that it is.

Okay. Because I researched to be like. And you know it wasn't canceled. I know for a fact it was not canceled. Okay. It was not as good as I wanted it to be, but it still fed my soul. And it got much better. Like, I do think the second season will be very good.

Yeah, I think so too. Like, the first few episodes where they were, like, setting the scene, I was like, my God, this is so fucking boring. I think that, like, what made it kind of, like, not what I thought is, like, you look at something like Downton Abbey and they have like the real locations. Yeah. It's like you're seeing the, you're seeing the actual castle.

You're seeing the grounds. Yep. Whereas on Gilded Age, there was so much like CGI and sets that like, no, that's actually a really good point. That to me, it like kind of took us out of it.

And actually a good segue into our next story is I think one of the things that ruined it was Cynthia Nixon being in it. I agree with you. of it and actually a good segue into our next story is I think one of the things that ruined it was Cynthia Nixon being in it I agree with you not because she's a bad actress no I love Cynthia Nixon but she's too famous yeah to play anything other than Miranda I completely agree with you which is a great segue into our next story Sarah Jessica Parker and Kristen Davis are both speaking out about Kim Cattrall's big return. We heard from Kim. We did not hear from the other ladies. And now we have. So she spoke to Page Six and said,

according to, I mean, after Kim Cattrall's return, she says, it's been a lot of joy. Okay. That's what she had to say about Kim Cattrall's brief appearance. She also said it was really fun and exciting and certainly nostalgic. Okay. That the follow- and certainly nostalgic. Okay.

That the follow-up is better. Yeah. But in no way has it been a lot of joy for SJP. No, I have like a theory and I don't think it's like that far-fetched because it's been made like clear that like the narrative is that Kim Cattrall is the one who's difficult. None of the other ladies got along with her. So it's like when three people say you're difficult, you're difficult, you know?

So I understand that's how it works. But I can totally see a world in which Sarah Jessica Parker is the villain of this story and like Kim Cattrall is the victim. I know I sound crazy. Maybe I'm just biased. Maybe I'm also seeing- You don't sound crazy.

This is like a little more popular of an opinion than you would think. But maybe I'm also just seeing the situation through the lens of their characters, which is not fair. I know. I think it's because Sarah Jessica Parker gives like um like trying it's like she's always trying to look like the goody two-shoes one yeah you know what I mean it's and nobody's like that sorry no one's like that all the time especially like a big Hollywood star yes like it's okay like we want to see a little bit of realness we want to see a little bit of realness. We want to see a little bit of cattiness.

Like, like it's, it's real. No one is that good all the time. I agree. And I think that's what, so people are like, start to see through it. Yes.

I think it's like the same thing that like the same problem that people have with Meghan Markle. Yeah. Is that like, they're like, where's the relatability? You're just trying to be so perfect and perfect. That's actually a really good comparison.

What do you think about her podcast drama? It's fucking wild. It's wild. No, it's like it's like really wild. And that that guy, what's his name? Bill Simmons or. Oh, from The Ringer. Yes.

Yeah. Who is now a Spotify executive coming out and calling them fucking grifters. Well, I mean, I don't think it could be considered a grift because I don't think they got paid their full contract because they didn't deliver what you don't just get paid immediately you get paid once you deliver and and finish certain requirements of you so I think they maybe got like five or six or seven million but they definitely didn't get the full 20 I mean I but I also feel like when you sign a contract that was Bill Simmons who said that yeah he started the started the ringer. Yes. Which then got acquired by Spotify. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just think that when they signed that contract, they had to have talked about the fact that, okay, we're going to do 12 episodes. Like,

I don't think that that was news to anyone. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I, I do think, I mean, I listened to the podcast and I'm a huge Meghan Markle fan,

so I wanted to like it so bad. I know. I really, I tried so hard, but I think what she's missing is that relatability I think she's scared to be honest like really be honest and to really like let her her flaws show because people are just pounce anytime she does anything exactly and I understand that she's in that position I understand why she doesn't want to show any weakness or anything that, that she feels people could criticize, but that is what we want to see. No.

And that's what really like, that's what podcasting is. It was so overproduced and so scripted and like, so felt like a, like a TV show. Yeah. That's not what podcasting is. Podcasting is sitting here and me being like,

pull your mic closer. Like it's so, it's like feeling like you are in the room with them and you're friends with them. You're talking or you're a fly on the wall. Yeah. And it was not that. And now it's also coming out that like, you know, her voice was actually like added in

later. I knew that. I could tell by listening to it. I'm like, oh, she didn't interview a lot of these people. Some of them she did. Yeah. But like some of them, no. Did you read Andy Cohen's recent book?

No. I think you would like it. I feel like it's like weird because you have like a thing with Andy. Like you obviously know him, but it's actually a really good book. It's a lot about parenthood. So I feel like you would like it okay I feel like it's like weird because you have like a thing with Andy like you obviously know him but it's actually a really good book it's a lot about parenthood so I feel like you would like that okay but there's a thing about Meghan Markle in it that I found so interesting tell me so he did her podcast yes and he had said um they did this really long interview and he brought up uh he said were you silent or were you silenced and he was like really proud of himself for just like like, putting that in.

And then they get to the podcast. It actually comes out. And they cut out his Oprah thing. He was really upset about that. Yeah. But then before they aired his interview on the podcast, Megan gives, you know, one of her, like, pre-recorded spiels. Right.

Basically saying how she was, like, kind of nervous to interview Andy because she feels like podcast, not podcast, excuse me, Housewives and Bravo like hasn't been great for women and like feminism. And he was like, what the fuck? Like you never said that to me in the interview. And like maybe if you did, we would have had a much more complex and dynamic and interesting conversation and the podcast wouldn't have been so fucking boring. But like to say that as like a precursor to the interview and then not bring it up is like so tacky. And maybe there is a conversation to be

had. I actually, I hate that. I hate that sentiment that people say housewives is bad for women like I don't agree with that but like to say it and then not say it to my face is like so cowardly I didn't know that I know it was so interesting I know I feel like she just keeps making like all the wrong decisions yes and like I will forever root for her I really because I feel like she's in an impossible situation situation and she's backed herself into this corner yeah like I think deep down she like what she really wants is to do good for the world she wants to live a good life a peaceful life I'm sure she loves wealth and and nice things and that's fine all the rest of us like that stuff

too there's nothing wrong with that I just wish like like I could be her publicist and I could be like, listen, my strategy for you is to like just, you need to like reel it up. You need to just like show people who you are. Or don't. Or pull back. Or pull back. But don't be doing docu-series, books, podcasts. But they have to make money.

I know. That's the thing. What they have in order to make money is their name and their stories. Like that's what it is. No, you're a hundred percent right. It's like a, it's honestly a terrible position to be in.

I just wish more people would have compassion for them because like, yes, they are incredibly fucking privileged, but we have no idea what it's like to be Harry or Megan or to be a Royal. And then if they were to go, if she was to go and try and act right now, she'd be criticized and made fun of. And that was what she knew.

So what do we expect her to do? No, that's fair. That's fair. But if she won't kind of break down that fourth wall and be an honest, vulnerable person, which is easier said than done, then I don't think these projects are the right projects for her. Correct. Yeah. No, but that's a good point.

And then just lastly, Charlotte from Sex and the City this is what she said she told the Telegraph last week that while she understands fans are upset Kim Cattrall doesn't have a bigger role in the spinoff she doesn't have any strong feelings about it she said I'm not gonna waste energy on it I can't change anybody I do understand the fans's feelings that they're upset I wish I could fix it but I can't it's not in my power you know I just I don't know like I I'm just it reminds me all of like Vanderpump rules. And like when I'm like not friends with someone, I feel like I relate to Kim Cattrall in this situation.

That's very interesting. Not me comparing myself to Kim Cattrall, to the great Kim Cattrall. But like I've, I have felt on the outside so many times, but I feel like the reasons why are valid. Like I'm hurt by certain things. I'm choosing to be on the outside. And then the people that are, are, I guess I'm hurt by certain things I'm choosing to be on the outside and then the people that are are I guess I'm I'm against or I'm I'm opposing yeah I don't know arguing that their

their argument is like well we can all get along we're all friends so you're the one with the problem and it's like no each of you guys has hurt me I'm'm deciding to not, to not be a part of that anymore. Like I choose to have people in my life that I feel like I can trust and, and bring happiness and good and enrich it instead of take from it. But like, so if that means, but I'm the only one on the outside, so therefore I must be the bad guy.

No, by the way, it's totally giving Vanderpump rules. And I don't think it's so crazy to say that like Vanderpump rules, especially in like the early days with like Jax Kristen

you Tom like I don't think it's crazy to say that like Vanderpump rules was the sex and city of our generation like I don't think that's the craziest

thing to say do you? Oh my god you can say it I can't yeah no you can't but like I am gonna start

thinking it you are definitely there's something there there's oh my god was I the Carrie? Oh, no. Well, maybe, because if you look back, I was the absolute worst. No, like, I was the worst.

But everyone loved you in the moment. They love to hate me. No, actually, you were, like, always acting like an animal, but, like, everyone, like, nobody cared. Like, they just, like, loved you no matter what you did. You know, like, it kind of is giving Carrie. No. I think it is oh my god but then you grew up into a Samantha slash Miranda hybrid I think that's I think that's a good place

to leave it you know our final story is some Barbie movie news I'm obsessed with the Barbie movie I would love to get your take on it and they did like a really cute smart little promo thing for it with architectural digest so the barbie dream house has opened its doors margot robbie hosted a tour of barbie's iconic home in a new video for architectural digest ahead of the theatrical release of the live action barbie film um and kind of how they do those like celebrity home tours they did one for barbie's house i think it's so cute so they showed off the over the top dream house which features a pool a bold pink kitchen a, a peek-a-boo view of Barbie's neighbors on the set of the film while she was dressed in character in a light pink and blue checkered cropped jacket, high-waisted miniskirt, and a hat. She looked so cute.

Her kitchen has a pink fridge, a round pink breakfast table. She said, not super practical, but nothing is for Barbie. I'm just obsessed with this. I think this was like the smartest promo. I thought it was so smart on AD's part. I thought it was so smart

on Barbie's part. I cannot wait to see this movie. No, I'm so excited. And everybody who criticized, because I feel like I've already heard criticism mainly about Ryan Gosling. Yeah.

I am not understanding. First of all, did Ken have an age that I was unaware of? Okay, so I feel like you're talking directly to me because I was very critical of Ryan Gosling. Yeah. I am not understanding. First of all, did Ken have an age that I was unaware of? Okay. So I feel like you're talking directly to me because I was very critical of Ryan Gosling. And I'll explain. Ken didn't have an age. Exactly. But Ken was flawless. And I'm sorry. Right. Ryan Gosling is extremely hot. He's not flawless. Like who would you cast? I forget who said this and I don't want to take credit for it but I thought it was an amazing call.

Austin Butler. He's not flawless. No he literally doesn't have a wrinkle in sight. Like not to be ageist or anything but like sorry he I don't think he's that hot. Ryan Gosling is getting old. Ryan Gosling

you don't think Austin Butler's that hot? Not really. I mean I think he was hot recently when he got like a spray tan for the Oscars and I'm like oh I love a spray tan. But you might have loved him as Ken. Like I'm just saying somebody with a perfect face like Ryan Gosling's so handsome Jacob Elordi dude I was

thinking that too he has like a really nice like Ken looking face yeah but not to be mean but like when you look at Margot Robbie her face is perfection there's not a thing out of place like she literally looks like a Barbie doll Ryan Gosling like was just giving like not like perfection. And I know perfection is like an unattainable standard but Margot Robbie did it flawlessly. Correct.

Okay. No I'm just I love Ryan Gosling so much. Same. Same. That's oh it's like you know it's like when you complain

about Blake Lively in the new Yes it ends with us. It's just yeah you can still love Blake Lively but just think it's like the wrong fit. What do you think about that casting? Did you read the book book i didn't read the book but like i have now interesting

because you're such a big reader well i've fallen off a little bit i haven't read a book in four months really get me back on it okay i need to like get back on it to read like weird things right like historical fiction yeah but i also like you guys recommended a lot of shit that that wasn't historical fiction that i ended but I also like, you guys recommended a lot of shit that wasn't historical fiction that I ended up reading and really loved. Like honestly, most of the books that I was reading, I found through you guys or your fans. Well, then I have a list for you. Please.

What's your favorite type of book? Well, historical fiction. Oh, well, duh. Do you like thrillers? I do. I love thrillers. Do you like smut, like romance books? I'm not really into that.

Big mistake. Huge. I mean, I could like try and get there. I'll send you a list. Okay. thrillers i do i love thrillers do you like smut like romance books i'm not really into that i mean mistake huge i mean i could like try and get there i'll send you a list okay i'll send you yeah i need to like get on the wagon again yeah i feel like pregnancy is such a perfect time for reading now i've been busy yeah you have but you also have been traveling a lot and travel is the perfect time for for reading yeah no good point missed opportunity there missed opportunity okay it's fine do you ever read The Rose Code? The Rose Code. I don't think I've heard of it. It's like a popular historical fiction book that I have

to read for my book club and I'm like dreading it because I hate historical fiction so I was wondering if you had read it. Oh that sucks that you hate historical fiction. I know. I mean I don't hate it. I just never choose it. But I've read quite a few that I loved but it's just never what I reach for. I always reach for like a thriller. Well like television shows what do you reach for everything like I have a wide spectrum like I do love like Downton

guilt Gilded Age but I love you know unscripted I love I'm watching Shrinking now I love it I love Ted Lasso I watch everything no literally historical fiction is the only thing I reach for in like all categories in TV too. Yeah. Movies, everything. Like you love Bridgerton. Yes. It's like the only thing that makes me feel like I, I,

I truly am excited about the content that I'm, even my TikTok algorithm. Yeah. I can imagine darkness everywhere. Um, well, what are your thoughts on the Barbie movie in terms of like the trailer we've gotten? Like what do you think it's going to be good?

Oh yes. No, I think it's going to be fucking perfect. Margot Robbie like the trailer we've gotten, like what, do you think it's gonna be good? Oh yes. No, I think it's gonna be fucking perfect. Margot Robbie like doesn't make bad movies. No, I mean, well, I don't know. Lately, I feel like

her movies aren't, they're a little artsy. They're not like hitting with like the rest of us basic bitches. You know what I mean? But I feel like her big budget blockbuster movies

are always good. Like I, Tanya, like when she's doing the most for a movie. Yeah. No, you know what i mean but i feel like her big budget blockbuster movies are always good like i tanya like when she's doing the most for a movie yeah no you know i just i don't see how barbie could be a flop i know i i just i don't see a world where especially because they've been trying to get this movie made in so many different ways for so long that like they're not gonna half ass it no and visually it looks so beautiful I mean, is it really true that like they had a paint, a pink paint shortage in the world because of the Barbie movie? Did you read this? I didn't.

They said that there was a pink paint shortage in the world because of the Barbie movie, because they wanted everything, the pink to be so vibrant. Right. I mean, I believe that, but I also feel like for the last few years,

there's just been like shortages of everything. And they're like COVID, China, you know, like, like there was literally a shortage of glitter. Remember? Like there's a short, there's a shortage of, there was a shortage of glitter. There was a shortage of like washing machines and cars because of like the microchips that have to go in it. Like there was a shortage of everything. Isn't that weird that we lived through COVID?

No. I know. If you like think about it, like sometimes I'll sit back and think about like people were so tense and so like high strung and like fighting about everything online. And like, you know, when I think about some of the shit, like people used to like, like riot over on the internet. Like if that happens, I'm like, you guys, like people were so deeply unwell. Like it's humiliating.

No, it's literally like we lived through the bubonic plague. No, literally. Like, by the way. I literally had dinner. After being quarantined. In May. I had dinner with my family. Outside. We sat outside.

Oh I remember listening to you. You referenced this on the toes. We all walked. We sat outside. We had been quarantined. For 60 days. Not seeing another human. We had a meal outside. You would have thought.

Yeah. We committed genocide. Yeah. The way people came for us. And now in hindsight, you all look so stupid. And I'm like humiliated for the people who did that. But like, it was terrifying. Like people came. I was like, and we weren't taking it lightly.

Like Olivia was nine months pregnant. Like we were doing the most. Like the way people came for us, I was like, and now in hindsight, I'm like, oh my God. Like people were, like COVID was obviously like an illness but it was also a mental illness the way the way uh quarantine made people fucking nuts nuts no i completely agree like and now in hindsight we realize how crazy it was but like i'm fully i'm waiting for my apology i think i'll be waiting quite a while um well stassi i just love chatting with you i hate that this is over I know and if there's anything else you want to chat about like we don't have to be done I mean I can't like think off the top of my head but I just love doing this with you you are welcome back anytime you know

that thank you if you liked what you heard here Stassi is like a huge podcast by the way I don't know if you've been the last time you were on the show you were promoting your book was straight up with Stassi straight up with Stassi has made kind of a triumphant return how does it feel you were one of the first podcasters not like the first ever but like in this space honestly it feels like I just like I'm new like really I do appreciate when people like you are like give me that that credit yeah you're an OG you guys are so amazing and so talented and so successful and I think like because I didn't have my podcast for two years like I've I feel like I'm just new and starting out again like I'm starting this new business no way and first of all it's like riding a bike it is but like it I forget that I have been

doing it for a long time yeah also podcasting has changed so much since the last time you did it 100% I feel like when you were like really starting out, you like, you would always go into a studio. Like there was no podcasting from home. I know. But like COVID really like expedited. Like everybody has like full fancy podcast setups. You film in your house, right? Yeah.

Like so much changed during that time because of COVID. But no, you're like an OG podcaster straight up with Stassi. How many episodes? You do one a week? One a week, yeah. And it's so good. And I personally like the pop culture hour because I'm obsessed with Taylor Strecker.

Thank you. But check it out. Straight up with Stassi. You also have a Patreon, which we love. Patreon over here. It's patreon.com slash Stassi. Oh, that's such a good link. Yeah, right.

Straight into the point. Stassi is just so easy. It's so easy. How do you feel about like not being the only famous Stassi? And have you met the other famous Stassi? No. What's it called? Stassi Baby?

Yes. Well, she doesn't go by Stassi Baby anymore. She doesn't? No, she like changed all of her. Doesn't she go by Stass? Yes? Yes. Well, she doesn't go by Stassi Baby anymore. She doesn't? No, she like changed all of her username. Doesn't she go by Stass? Yes. Yes. Do you think that's because of me?

I'd like to think so. I want to think it is too. But like, she's like, well, there's already a Stassi, so I'm just going to go by Stassi. Have you ever met? No, I've never met her, but I get confused for her. Yeah. Like when I'm going in to like renew my car lease or whatever, like the guy at the dealership will be like like so you're

famous and I think that he's like talking about Vanderpump Rules and he'll start being like so Kylie Jenner blah blah blah I'm like that's that's not me that's not me you can just roll with it maybe you'll get you know you'll cut the line or something like it is so annoying having another like the way that I name my babies is like their name has to be like outside of the 5,000 list. I don't want them to have to share a name with anyone. And it's just, it's like, do you have a name for your baby? Oh yeah. That's done. It's done. That's done. How did you find it? Done. Um, it was actually the last time I was in New York here. It was like the day before I saw you for Taylor's birthday. We came, I came up with it. And did you find it like in a book or something or it just kind of floated into your mind through a list?

We had cut, there was a street that I saw. Oh. That I'm like, I like this name. But we already knew someone who was named that. So then we changed it. Interesting. We changed it. So let me guess.

Is it 7th Avenue? 7th Avenue. Clark? 7th actually is a cool name. It is actually a cool name. But it's like a little too out there, I think. Well, it reminds me of Harper 7. It reminds me of Seven by Taylor Swift. A beautiful song. Wait can you tell me how you keep getting tickets to Taylor Swift?

The way I've tried. I've gone through. I'll tell you. I've gone through my agency. I've gone through everyone. Well let me tell you the first time I got a box in Nashville with like 20 of my friends and we each paid what we would pay for like a regular ticket. And we all just ended up getting our own box. I literally contacted like a salesperson for the Nissan Stadium. Like I like went through just like the regular channels. The second time I bought them on StubHub three hours before. It was still very pricey.

The third time a brand went and they a brand called Tangle Teaser, they had purchased a box and filled it with influencers and content creators. So that was that. And I think I will be going one more time. I'm not sure when. The fuck? I know. No, the thing is with, with the tailor tickets, like you can't cut any lines.

Like you just have to pay for it. Well, no, I'm, that's fine. I'm just like, I don't, I didn't want to just like have a regular seat. I wanted to like, I want to I want to purchase yep the best experience yes yes and I actually purchased the best experience on step hub okay that's I would say my best tickets so you're saying that one sheet when she's in LA I should day of yep so like not the day before it's like no just get dressed like I was I knew I was gonna go no no and then as I'm doing my makeup we bought the tickets. We were monitoring all day.

But what if you couldn't find the tickets and you got ready for nothing? And like, that's such a letdown. Like I would have found, like one thing about me, like I would have found the tickets. Can't you do it for me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll give you my credit card info. For sure. As long as I can buy one for myself.

Like, sure. No, real talk. That would be my payment to you. By the way. Done. Come to California. We are thinking, me and Margo Just depending on What happens with

Jackie's birth schedule We are really hoping To be in LA For the August shows Great For Taylor Yeah Great

So maybe I'll see you there So maybe you literally Will be there Yeah Okay I'm hoping to be Let's work on this We'll coordinate

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