The Toast - Dressing Room Theory: Thursday, August 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: August 22, 2024

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Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the Terst. Terst. It's Herstory at the Terst. In Toast Terstory. Sorry about that. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a great day. I hope so, too, though I do feel like today feels like an episode of the Terst. Not the Toast. I mean, I'm down if you are. Like, are you down to clown? I'm down for Terst.

She's down to clown. We can make our own rules if it's terse. That's kind of like, and I'm going to take what you said and have a serious conversation. Do you ever have that feeling? Maybe like not so much for you anymore, but like every now and then I remember like I'm not a child. Like I could seriously like go walk outside naked. Like I just remember that I'm an adult and like the rules are what I make them.

I could just like, I could seriously, I could go to Cancun right now. You could go to Cancun. As far as walking outside naked, it does depend where you are. Like if you're on your private property, you can, but like you cannot be nude in the public. Okay, that's like not what I was saying. I meant more like I-

There are still laws and you're still law abiding citizens. I'm not in school. I don't listen to my parents. You could stay up all night and eat ice cream all night if you wanted to. No, that's not even really, no. I'm more so like, I don't know. Do you ever like look around your house and just you're like, this is my house, bitch.

Like I make the fucking rules. Not in that sense. I do. I'm always like, and like, this is my house. What rules are you looking to make in your house? Any kind. Maybe it's because, you know, as a child, I really was like, I opposed authority. I was really not into like rules and stuff. Every now and then I just I look around I'm like yeah but this is my house my apartment

I make the rules I'm in charge I'm the adult I'm the adult I'm the authority like I used to hate you know what rules do you want to make in your house any there's just something powerful about like looking back taking look acknowledging the space you're in, and then looking forward. Where are you looking towards? The future. The rules that I make. The authority that I am. I'm just trying to get at what kind of rules do you want to make?

You're looking at it very literally. And I think it's due to your lack of imagination. I think the creative people and the people who are listening will understand what I'm saying. You're thinking about it too literally. Not physical rules. Just life rules. I'm saying. You're thinking about it too literally. Not physical rules. Like, just life, like, rules. Like, I'm in charge. Okay.

You know? What are you in charge of? It's so hard to host a podcast with somebody who lacks such imagination. It's so hard to host a podcast with somebody who lacks... You're really not understanding at all what I'm saying. No, I understand the concept, but now let's take it, like, practically... I know you're looking at it too, like, too literally. Like, I'm not talking about, like, actual rules. I'm not going to sit down sit down and like write a list of rules it's like the rules of life like things I'm allowed to do things I want to do things I

I couldn't do as a kid you know are you okay what do you want to do whatever I feel like that day because I'm in charge and I make the rules okay so it's Kam's Kamala. Oh my God. No. It's abstract. Okay. So when you don't understand something, it's Kamala. Okay. Sure. Sure. Sure.

That's fine. She doesn't get it. But if you get it, sound off in the comments, you know? Like, are you in charge of your own life? Like, do you look around and you say like, this is my house, bitch. I can do whatever the fuck I want. I can paint the walls red. Thank you. So practically, there's a practical.

Sure. Sure. Sure. I understand. You need more, more help understanding. Like you have like a learning disability oh my gosh I just want examples it's called a conversation no no if you understood what I meant you wouldn't need an example so you didn't understand it that's okay she likes imagination it's okay much also to say happy Thursday everyone hope you've enjoyed your week this far. We have,

we had such a fabulous day yesterday and we topped it off with the last two episodes of Love is Blind UK, which has really been carrying us through the second half of Swirly Summer. After the toast, we just kind of, perfect example, threw caution to the wind. We were like, we're in charge of our own life. What if we just went for lunch and shopped in the middle of the day and had a cocktail, you know? And we did and it was amazing we got such fabulous items we shopped till we dropped we really shopped till we dropped which is you know there's that's only there's only one way to shop you have to like be all in willing to like take off your clothes you can't just be like oh I like looking around poking like you have to dig in I know it's so true like if you want to have a successful shopping

day you have to get naked in the dressing room you have to come home like seriously wanting to die yeah like so dead so depleted like my aura ring was like was that a workout at 5 18 p.m nope just me in the dressing room huffing and puffing cynthia rowley yeah we crushed it my top today is from cynthia rowley we got so many cute things we hadn't been to that store this summer but just everything was cuter than the next I don't think we've had a more successful shopping jaunt we went thrifting we did go thrifting we are so granola Claudia went to a well we all went to a consignment I didn't know it was a consignment major success yeah I was feeling like a little I don't know there's something like how do you know you know I was feeling like a little anxious when we left the store I was like did I just spend money on shoes that like did I just get scammed yeah on old maiden shoes yeah

old maiden type of shoes and the jury's still out she they came with the box and the dust bag like I don't know I don't think she got scammed and even if she did like say they I think they look great they feel great they look top quality fabric and I think that you as a woman can pass them off as authentic. It doesn't even matter at this point. I don't even care about passing them off. Like I'm like a fiscally conscious queen. Like did I just spend money on fake shoes? No, but like, do you love the shoes?

Do you like the quality? Are they worth that? Because take out the designer. Like you could get a nice pair. That's what you're paying for. But at a certain point, no, you're paying because you love the shoe. It's a nice pair of leather shoes. That costs a pretty penny.

We'll see. I don't think she got swindled. I think she actually like made off like a bandit with her gargi-pargi shoes. Okay. And I'm happy for her. Me too. No, we really crushed it. Like new wardrobe, fall wardrobe, check.

Yeah. We went to Love Shack Fancy, which has been one of our favorite stores all summer. We just pop in and out and they had just, it's just the cutest vibe. Can I say something honest? I guess. Not that I would ever stop you.

I had an amazing time yesterday. Like I really did. But I, and I don't know if this like, doesn't make me woman enough, but like I hate shopping, I and I don't know if this like doesn't make me woman enough but like I hate shopping like physically in stores if you're really shopping like we said like looking for clothes that fit not just like I need one dress for the party tonight like no but also even that night is hard but I mean like really hard to school shopping yeah oh my god haul between the physical elements like being sweaty in this like dressing room. And then also the emotional elements,

like, you know, your size is not fitting. It's like kind of traumatizing. There are so many elements. And then the walking around, my legs were killing me. Like shopping gets like a good wrap. You know, it looks fabulous. Shopping is horrible.

I actually love shopping. I love everything about shopping until like the last 10% of finishing up in the dressing room, putting things back on hangers, you know, waiting to go pay like that. It gets unfun, but like the act of like perusing, Oh, I love this for you. I love this for me. I absolutely love it. And if anybody ever wants to go shopping, like just call me. I'm glad you brought up putting things back on hangers because we had a

conversation on the toast a couple of weeks ago about the shopping cart theory, right? How there was, you know, this theory going around that, you know, you can really tell the type of person someone is based on what they do with their shopping cart at the grocery store when no one's watching. Yeah. And we were saying that we feel like that's kind of a flawed theory. Like you never know what's going on in someone's life, especially they have kids in the car. Like there's a million. It's a flawed theory. It's so reductive and it allows people who are bad people to put their shopping cart away and say, I'm a good person. Yeah. And you're never really alone, right?

Because you're in the public. You're in a parking lot where people can see you. So you know that people might be watching and that that's a part of the theory too. But in a dressing room, you are well and truly private. And I think a better theory would be hangers. Do you hang up your stuff? I do. And I can't lie.

Do I hang it up perfectly? No. No. I hang on my stuff. It's not gargi-pargi. It's not, it might not be on the hanger that it came on. Oh no, no, no. You know, but like the shorts will be on the short, like it's not like so, so much of a mishap, but it's not gargi pargi. Someone will probably have to fix it. But like, no, I didn't leave it all on the floor. I think that's a better theory because really no one's watching. And it requires more of you for sure yeah and it

requires like critical thinking at times you know with the somehow you always end up with less hangers than clothing you know makes no fucking sense even in your own closet even in your own closet so I just you know take that shopping cart theory I'm calling it dressing room theory oh wow yeah I'm coming out that's like if you if you want to be a successful influencer you have to have a theory you have to have like words and shit like no you have to have your own theory yeah it's so true tinks has box theory yes what do we have well now we're like gargi parji theory we have the gargi parji theory which is obviously you know world renowned but now we have the dressing room theory but it's also scary to have a theory because like what if it's that's how

pythagorean felt what if it's like flawed you know when people are constantly poking out your theory like oh or even with tinks and box like i met my man outside the box tinks like right right right and it's like anything that that just proves your theory there are no universal theories except for like pythagorean mc square like except for the mathematical ones but there are no universal emotional theories yeah people are just always coming from for your theory it's so fucking true look at us coming for the shopping cart theory like weeks later no it must be really scary to have a theory i think it takes a lot of hubris to come up with

a theory and like then really force it on people so i also feel like kind of like what i was doing at the beginning of the show me having hubrisris with my theory. You having hubris with your theory. Thank you for proving my point. Yeah. I have hubris. What does hubris mean? Like, false?

Braggadociousness, false confidence. Like, it's very. Hubris means false confidence? It's like. Oh, I thought it meant like courage.

Oh, no. Oh, I'm always using it like, like a good thing. Hubris, excessive pride or self-confidence oh okay but that doesn't necessarily mean based on false like right you couldn't be albert einstein i would hope he would have a lot of hubris but then there are some there are some bad faith actors with their hubris yes and most people who have hubris like don't have to this stuff to back

it up right no and it's like if you if actually possessed. You don't have to try so hard. It's so true. So Albert Einstein probably didn't have hubris. He probably did not. I don't know. I feel like maybe actually he did, but yeah. And if he did like go off king, you did that stuff. Things you did, that, yeah.

As you should. Whether he did or he didn't, like it doesn't change things for me. Yeah, because I saw oppenheimer and they had a character of einstein and they like i guess it's like known in like the science world he was like kind of a dick was it giving hubris um kind of yeah he like did the thing and then he became like you know he's like a bad husband and stuff you know who's like the most hubris hubris man huberman huberman so true i actually don't think we have hubris i don't

think so either that's why we don't have theories you know we're like what's the opposite we have like crippling self-doubt like what's that chip we don't have hubris we have chip we don't have hubris we have chip I love that yeah I love that it's just a little bit about us. So we'll work on shopping room theory. You know, it's, it's kind of a, it's a theory in flocks. Like it's constantly being. In transition. Yeah.

In transition. It's constantly being worked on. It's not a fully flushed out theory yet. We're not ready for publishing. No, that's the thing. Are you ever ready? Yeah. You're constantly going to be poking on theory.

But I kind of love that. Yeah. Let's work on like having theories. Oh yeah. Those girls from the toes. That's their theory. Yeah. I feel like we have theories about like what's going on in Taylor Swift's life. Like that's true. They do think we have theories about things such as that. Like pop culture. But I meant more like lifestyle.

Packaging things as a theory is like a great way to make waves online. You know, we need to definitely work on our lifestyle theories. Okay. Any other theories that you want to share? Anything you've been thinking? No, not, not right right now and i don't want to force it like you know when they're ready they will come okay build it and they will come should i start a list of potential theories just to keep us inspired just keep us organized yeah and the first one of course will be dressing room theory yeah and we're going to be like in six months what were we saying about put in parentheses versus shopping i'm writing the date oh Oh, that's so smart. We're going to start dating our theories.

That's so Einstein of us. And then put in parentheses versus shopping cart theory so we can remember. Dressing room theory. Okay. I'm cracking up. If someone saw this, like it would make no sense to them. It's kind of a time capsule. We should bury your phone in the ground and come back in 50 years and see if we can remember

one thing. You know what we will remember? Tarek's arm tyke. Yeah. Some things are eternal. Of course. I think history will remember that. And not kindly.

Not. Because history is written by the victors. Christina Hall. And herstory is written by Christina Hall. Herstory is written by us. That's true. Can I ask you a question? We have a lot to tackle today.

The Fast Five, Love is Blind UK. How are we thinking about structuring? This is probably something we should have discussed before but fast five then love is blind uk okay so it's like a little sweet treat at the end of the show and that way like we don't have to worry about spoilers and we can just you know organize things so if you're ever coming back for the recap we're very excited we i just want to say i don't know if there's a time in any love is blind history where i've been so happy with the outcome for every single couple yeah like i think it was the right decision yeah Yeah. Sometimes I'm like so shocked that people

did or didn't. I agree with that. And we were also talking about last night how with the exception of one random season of love is blind, love is blind really is a very low divorce rate. Yeah. Um, there were two couples who got divorced from the same season. Like I just think that was a cursed season. It was also a terrible season. One of the worst that I've ever like had the displeasure of watching for sure. Um, Nick and Danielle and then Jared and Ayanna, they both ended up getting divorced quickly after. But besides that, I don't like to include them in my theory here because I think that the question they always ask Nick and Vanessa, like seriously, like shove it down our throats

and we never actually answer. Is love blind? Right, right, right. And they just like use it at this point, like for marketing, they really annoy me when they say it. But now with the love is blind UK, I'm like, is love blind? Like it can be. It can be, but I don't think that like it's objectively blind. I think there are a lot

of factors, not even looks that people then see in their partner when they're together, even the way that they speak, like someone could like speak in a way that really fucking bothers you. Like what if they get sly in their corners or like, yeah, or just like mannerisms or the way that they sit, the way that they carry themselves it's not just about like attractiveness there are so many things that go into someone's like physical being so I don't think love is blind but it can be blind when you also happen to like what the person looks like yeah no and I think that like if you do end up doing the experiment all the way through like I think the marriages that we got and that we have just in

the love is mine history like like are very good marriages. Yeah. So we'll, we'll do like a full recap. And they're all really marriages where the people on levels of attractiveness were pleased with their partner. It's not like any two people who were so dissimilar, like still their love from the pods carried them through.

That's the thing with love is blind that I think is just, and I think it's because like it would be really messy, but if they had people like seriously, some like supermodels and then some of the ugliest people you've ever seen, like not to be mean, it would make it more. Yeah. But it also is kind of like the show catfish, because if you fell in love with a person online, even though you thought they looked like one thing, they looked like something else, but like that, that connection and that, and those conversations that you had are still the same. Like, shouldn't you then still love whatever they are correct should aside from the deception they're a liar right yeah okay but like if you can forgive the lie you still is the love still there to me if I

got catfished I wouldn't so much be focused on the lie I would be focused on like how weird are you like that's what you do you like lie like you like cosplay on the internet I would be focused on like how weird are you like that's what you do you like lie like you like cosplay on the internet I'd be like our interests just don't align because you're obviously a freak like I would I maybe I could get past the deception I couldn't get past like the personality of a person who would seriously like catfish someone like you're obviously an absolute loser well maybe they're insecure well that's unattractive to me okay and you don't want to love them through it no you don't want to love them through it no you don't want to make them stronger and show them that they're worthy I think that I can love past

a lot of things honestly like I I do I like to think that I'm like a magnanimous person in that sense but seriously like being a loser is it's not fixable it's okay like it's it's incurable it's at your core like you're loser done you're cool exactly okay okay so love is blind really is a lot like catfish just with a different spin you know love is blind is catfish with better pr yeah because they're all lying you can even hear it in some like the way people talk like especially the women they're like and then they get to that isn't that just girlhood yeah like on dates i guess it's so true we're all cats we're all catfishing we're on a date we're like yeah i'm not crazy i we don't show up to the date like i'm British and then right and then you leave that and then you come

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But I was also so grateful to the authorities because thanks to them, we were grieving concerts and not lives. She also explained why she decided to stay silent immediately following the incident. She said, quote, let me be very clear. I'm not going to speak about any something publicly if I think doing so might provoke those who would want to harm the fans who come to my shows. In cases like this one, silence is actually showing restraint and waiting to express yourself at a time when it's right to. My priority was finishing our European tour safely. And it is with great relief that I can say that we did that. She added that her team worked hand in hand with British authorities and stadium staff to achieve that goal at Wembley stadium. Yeah. I mean, facts on facts on facts, um, on all elements, whether it was, you know, people criticizing her for not saying anything

and then going into London without, I didn't even really think about like, she's still very much in Europe. There are still, you know, people like that. And I think her statement was perfect. I also think, you know, very poignant saying like, so grateful. And it gives a lot of perspective to be mourning shows, canceled shows and not lives lost. And I think that's something we were saying earlier in the week. And I think that like something, the, the culture I think that like something the culture like it's an important statement to say. Like nobody wants to cancel shows. And obviously like that sucks on a on a very basic level. But we're not talking about that here.

We're talking about a lot more serious things. So I thought this was beautifully put. I'm I'm glad that she explained it because even I and I'm someone who totally understood why she didn't say anything. And if she never said anything, I'd be OK with it. Like the fear, the guilt, the dread. Like I can only imagine I would why she didn't say anything. And if she never said anything, I'd be okay with it. Like the fear, the guilt, the dread. Like I can only imagine. I would never expect someone to say that,

but I do appreciate this insight as to why she's going to say something now. And I didn't even really think about London as being this. An issue for her. So I totally get it. Thanks. I didn't need an explanation. Yeah. Queen going to do queen shit,

but hopefully for the people who were upset about him not speaking and thought it meant she hated people in vienna right hopefully you are satiated probably not though but also chris martin was in vienna performing at the stadium that she was set to perform at and he did a cover of love story with maggie rogers with maggie rogers to you know sort of pay homage to the shows that were canceled so he said if this is not good please please don't put it on YouTube because I don't want to get in trouble uh with Taylor and he proceeded to play Love Story with Maggie Rogers um for the Swifties who might have been in attendance can I say I love this really beautiful

yeah like I literally I'm gonna cry it's so sweet I think that a lot of times celebrities try to like do stuff and it just comes off like okay yeah this to me yeah right this to me is so sweet yeah to like you know this obviously huge moment for for Chris Martin too this big stadium and he like took a moment to like talk about Taylor I just anytime a celebrity I feel like it doesn't it happens more now but every now and then like people will be like like hating Taylor is like makes you cool and indie um I just love this like and I thought the rendition was was beautiful I was jamming I loved all parts of this like I thought it was actually really sweet and like this is how you support someone like this is how it was just I loved it like I have nothing negative to say which is just new for me me neither and now like Chris Martin we've been

talking about him so much this week and I also feel like probably has nothing to do with this but i feel like him choosing to sing love story is like you know just confirming like i love dakota johnson okay i love love love where your head is i'm just trying to put like the two pieces together and put a nice bow on the week of chris martin for sure however i think he probably didn't have like a lot of time to learn a new taylor swift song that might be the one he knew the most words to you know he has daughters I just want to say whatever Taylor Swift song he sang I would have said it was about it was for Dakota yeah but she does write a lot of songs you belong with me about love Dakota belongs with him yeah I also think like from a marketing perspective like when you think about the Coldplay fans and the Taylor Swift fans they're

really not like the very similar circle the middle is small the middle is small so when he wanted to sing a song that you know people in the audience probably know you're going to go for the biggest Taylor Swift song. And so there's Love Story. What do you think is the biggest? Shake it off. I've thought about this a lot. Like numbers wise, maybe it's Blank Space.

Because she has like huge albums. But when it comes to like her most iconic songs, it's different because I feel like what the fans would say versus what mainstream, like global at a glance, big bang theory. I'm asking global at a glance. Yeah. So it's like love story, shake it off, blank space style.

Yeah. 22. Oh, that hurts. Yeah. Yeah. Like I knew you were trouble. Yeah.

I guess because in the subsequent eras, like it's been, the rollout has been less commercial and more, you know, the whole album for the, for the, and like for the fans and like drops and like folklore everyone like you know if you're not paying attention you might have missed stuff and so yes the biggest songs that were played on the radio incessantly

when she was doing that sort of stuff are not like the fans most favorite songs right and that's just actually now that you're like putting like putting it out like that I think that the reason why so many people's favorite era is 1989 and it was for so long, because now that I'm thinking about it, when we were just talking about like the singles off of Red, right? We Are Never Getting Back Together, 22,

to me are some of the worst songs on the album. And they're the ones that had the biggest mainstream success. Like it never made sense to me. And that happens a lot with her album. She'll release a song that goes to radio, is like the most like corny kind of pop. And that's, if you don't listen to the album you think that that's what taylor swift does and it's like not at all what she does and 1989 like the

biggest hits like what you just said style and blank space like those are two of seriously the best songs ever made yeah and they're the biggest songs on the album and that never happens with taylor like her best songs are like the least streamed from the album shake it off even though i have i'm having a renaissance um follows that like yes the 22 trope of like one of the worst songs being the biggest hit that was the first single on 1989 yeah but at the time like it was a cultural reset it was a cultural reset yeah I knew you were trouble I don't like that it's it comes in waves for me just compared to how much I love everything else yeah the deeper cuts we're like we're not like other fans relative no I think all the fans really feel this yeah yeah

the real thing yeah but I think it speaks to like how Taylor up until a certain point you're right now she just like gives albums she doesn't really do like the single like but for so long she did like the music industry the OG radio way and she was making hits for radio and was you know releasing a single releasing a single and then the album now I think she's much more comfortable dropping like a full piece of work and letting people and now I guess thinking about the singles she dropped from like Midnight's or whatever I guess they were pretty anti-hero anti-hero karma karma bejeweled like not my favorites oh so I kind of ignored them they're like my skips on the album I don't listen to those songs so I can't say that they're everywhere but they might be I think karma and bejeweled are

everywhere and I don't think that they're skips I do think antihero got like the radio pop treatment and then you like start to just get over it naturally cardigan yeah no it's interesting that's one thing like she always chooses the to me the not obvious choice to make her singles and that was so crazy about cruel summer right, right? Like Cruel Summer was not a single from Lover. It was just a song kind of at the end of the album. And I don't think she ever planned to make it a- You need to calm down. Right. Right. Those are two songs from the same album. To me, it never made sense, but it was working.

Me. Right. It doesn't make sense, but it works. It's so crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy that me and Cruel Summer are on the same album and me was made a single. And it was the fans. And it was like the culture that made Cruel Summer so popular that she had no choice but to release it as a single five years later. Yeah.

It's crazy. No, like seriously, those singles are- Insane. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. What was the single from TTPD? Fortnited fortnight right yeah i know you don't like fortnight i do but not on the way that i feel about like you need the other yeah yeah it's just

like it's a good song on the album not the best yeah and because it's the first one i can just start by playing the second one yeah which i like better yeah okay well that's your little tailored update and she's done at wembley two months she's gotten a break and then she comes comes back we're going in October we literally have tickets so yeah she is and it's perfect timing because football season's about to start she's probably in Kansas City right now home with Travis he's been like it's been a couple of months of they really complement each other very well their schedules not on purpose because she planned the tour before they even met but it's like there are weeks and months where it's all about Travis and then there are weeks and months where it's all about Taylor and they really show up for one another in such a public way it's like there are weeks and months where it's all about Travis. And then there are weeks and months where it's all about Taylor and they really show up for one another in such a public way. It's

so sweet. Now it's Travis's time. And then she'll be back in the States and it's like not that big of a deal if he has a show. I mean, if she has a show in the States and then he has a game the next day. And just a reminder to like all celebrity couples, like if these two are, as long as these two are still dating, like I never want to see a statement of scheduling conflicts as a reason for a breakup it's so true Lady Gaga and Taylor Kinney yeah everyone they always like I it's always the go-to and these two are out here like proving it can be done right so like we will not be accepting that it's true like they are both at the top of their game they do so much not even just for football like for their things they do award ceremonies he's a TV show. Like if they can make it work. Yep. If they wanted to, they would. Are you ready for our next story? A little Dancing with the Stars news because the first celeb contestant of Dancing

with the Stars has been announced and it's Pommel Horse Steven from the Olympics. P-H-S. Pommel Horse Steven. Olympic gymnast Steven. Steven. Steven Nedrasek. Pommel Horse Steven. Olympic gymnast Steven. Steven. Steven Nedrasek. Pommel Horse Steven is heading to the ballroom. I like how we gave him a nickname because it's hard. PMS. PMS.

PHS. Fresh off his historic Pommel Horse performance at the 2024 Paris Olympics, he will now be competing on season 33 of Dancing with the Stars. He was on GMA making a live in-studio studio appearance and he is the first contestant who has been revealed for the forthcoming season. The rest of them will be announced September 4th on GMA. But he's also the first male gymnast to compete on Dancing with the Stars.

We've had plenty of female gymnasts, Suni Lee, Simone Biles, and Lori Hernandez. But now this is the first male gymnast. Love this. Like this is how you do it right like you you see what's going on in the culture and you like I feel like dancing with the stars always does a really good job they get a wide berth of people right like tv show stars who we don't know but your parents might and then charlie d'amelio like they really cover all sports entertainment

and they do a good job this is excellent and like capitalizing on the olympics I'm happy for a male gymnast don't get like sponsorship shine. They're not really. I think it must be hard to make a living, honestly, as a male gymnast. And when you compare to like the women who are seriously like billionaires. Yeah.

Can I ask a stupid question? Are male gymnasts athletically like much better? If like a male gymnast competed against a female gymnast, like they're doing crazier stuff. Right. I don't know about that. Cause the way it feels is like, no one's better than the female gym.

Yeah. But like, well, I think it's just like, you know, biology. Yeah. I don't know.

They're capable of more. I think that they are definitely on the same level, maybe a little bit, but nobody cares. So it's like, I think it's a pretty dumb question now that I think about it, but it's just, why is it so much more fun to watch the girls because like twirling sorry

twirling is for the girls even though like technically like throwing flips like they're throwing greater tricks okay i had another question to ask and like it's a little not pc so like i apologize but just know like i love everyone and i just had a question okay um that's how all like all great cancellations begin i love everyone and i do know i really i am like i love everyone and i'm not like this is not i just have a question like because there is something like in like gymnastics is girly right and so there are certain sports when you know if like a man is competing like he's totally gay right okay it's gymnastics like are male gymnasts all gay i feel like no and if you watch it like especially those rings like you would think like

male gymnastics what are they like twirling with ribbons in their head like no. And if you watch it, like especially those rings, like you would think like male gymnastics, what are they like twirling with ribbons in their head? Like no, it's actually very masculine. Very physical. Are male gymnasts gay? Like no, because the one I was watching, like he has a girlfriend. Yeah. Poma horse Steve has a girlfriend.

Right. I don't get that vibe. No, me neither. But like if you're like figure skating. It's like, yeah, like dancing, but it's not. Right. I feel you. Okay.

So male gymnasts like are. It's not like. And of course it's not. You can have a gay male gymnast, but it's not like an automatically gay thing to do right right right but i think that like figure skating is like more often than not like you can assume that they're gay i've never thought about it i would say figure skating more than gymnastics rhythmic rhythmic gymnastics not like a hundred percent no no, no. There's no a hundred percent anything, you know, like there are gay basketball players, but like there's more like majority.

I mean, I'm talking majority. Yeah, majority. And I'm sorry. Like, please. I just had a question. I don't know if anyone's really like come out with the numbers on this. Well, that's a study I would be interested in reading. It's the same way.

Like, you know, a majority of, i'm just really digging myself in a hole here a majority of like you know softball players or female softball players are lesbian right is it a majority or it's just like a stereotype a vibe no i think it's like a stereotype that i'm like seriously perpetuating yeah i'm sorry i don't know i'm just curious like what is the vibe you know yeah what is the vibe i'm out with the studies so i think so that we there are sports that are real 50 50 like women's soccer i feel like they're really half straight half gay come out with the study so that we can speak factually on the matter you know instead of just like making sweeping generalizations yeah we're just suffering from like a lack of information knowledge on the

matter thank you thank you we're suffering thank you and i'm sorry i just was thinking it with gymnastics because it was the first year that I ever really watched it. And of course I'm like, oh, that's gay. Of course. You know? And then I'd watch it. I was like, actually, maybe it's not. I don't know.

And I'm being like really, yeah, maybe we'll get this out. No, I feel like we're being earnest. I'm asking in earnest. I really am. And you guys know, like, I love everyone. I really do. Except for losers on Catfish. Except for losers who catfish. Like seriously for everyone except for them totally are you ready

for our next story yeah some more and I'm sorry okay we know yeah you guys know my heart you know your heart that's that's why sometimes I'm really actually like not afraid to say stuff because like you guys know my heart like I'm and and I'm actually like a really good person and I really do I love everyone and I don't think bad of anyone like I really good person. And I really do. I love everyone. And I don't think bad of anyone. Like I really don't. Unless, like I said, you've catfished someone and you're a loser. Or you're Tariq and you went on a hike. So that's why I do feel comfortable asking these things.

Because I feel like, you know, everybody knows. We know your heart. You do. It's intention is so important. I never, ever, ever come from a bad place. Except when I do. But you'll know when I do. But what we're saying is in that moment you weren't.

No, no. I was genuinely asking. Yeah. There's no such thing as a dumb question. Thank you. Like, seriously, thank you. Never stop asking why. Never stop asking how many male gymnasts are gay.

Our next story, switching gears, some Bravo drama. Brandi Glanville gave an interview to the U.S. Sun and told them that she felt pressured by Andy Cohen to get together with Southern Charm star Austin Kroll. So Brandi Glanville alleged in a new bombshell interview that Andy Cohen made her feel like a sex worker whom he was pimping out. These are her words, quote, sex worker, quote, pimping out to other Bravo liberties and crew members, including Austin Kroll. So she told the U.S. Sun on wednesday quote i think that andy wants me to take over and conquest the people that he can't because they're straight she said quote so i'm like his little sex worker and i'm not i'm sorry i'm a mom of two i've been in two long-term relationships my entire life i'm not what he's made me into in his head she provided the outlet with copies of

text messages and emails in which she engaged with andy in conversation about potential new suitors and ex hookups um she said i've been dealing with very sexually explicit messages and emails in which she engaged with Andy in conversation about potential new suitors and ex hookups. She said, I've been dealing with very sexually explicit texts and emails for over a decade and none of them were jokes. I had to act like I wasn't bothered by it because what if I said you're disgusting? You think I would ever work again or fuck off? No, I would be dead in the water. One of the text exchanges reportedly took place shortly after BravoCon and he allegedly wrote to her at the time, quote, kind of hoping you and my stage manager hooked up. She replied, I think he wants you, which made him burst out laughing. The following day, Andy allegedly told Brandy, quote, I really wanted you and Austin to get together. He had his eyes on you. Brandy did not dismiss the comment

at the time and instead acknowledged, um, he's already DM'd me like four times. Shep too, but Austin had his girl with him i'm going to t okay she said i'm going to charleston for sure and i don't even like blondes we need more male options lol um and he actually did talk about an interaction with brandy at bravo comic didn't go into detail so like this does seem yeah no i don't think she's lying yeah the thing is it's like with the brandy because this is an ongoing saga right there was that video with kate chastain that i actually it's you know brandy cohen brandy cohen brandy glanville's in the news because that video like makes its way to me again like and you know she's making waves talking about it um i feel so

torn because i could actually see i could see these conversations like being inappropriate right like andy is her boss but i also look at it as this like kind of, you know, fun, loud, older woman and, you know, sassy, gay. And you see those conversations being totally fine. Right. So it's like it's her truth and his truth. Right. Yeah. But the dynamic is undeniable. It is a work dynamic. Like he is the boss. People have been fired for less because like that is the relationship. It's not like they even knew each other before they started working together. Like the power dynamic has always been like, he's the executive producer and like, she's a cast member and she is,

even though, you know, I think his role has changed over time. And at times like she, he's the honcho one. Like, yeah. So you don't want to piss him off.

And she talked about that. She said, your boss should never talk to you that way. We are not friends. We do not hang out outside of work ever. And we were at a work event she said i felt this tremendous tremendous amount of pressure to please him but that was too far i'm not going to sleep with someone he literally thought i would do it that's the disgusting part and so interesting also um

then you know andy's side of it even though i don't think he's responding to this but in general they say that like when the text occurred he's also talent on Bravo and has not worked as a network executive in a decade he is however an executive producer for several of the housewives show but he does not have hiring or firing power however this just reminds me of something else because a few weeks ago Andy had said like they're totally re-overhauling houses of New Jersey and it's like so are you the guy who makes these decisions or are you not it's true like anytime there's a casting update or casting drama, he goes on his radio show and speaks on it. And then other times when housewives want their job back, he's like, I'm not in charge

of this wrong department. It's so true. I really think for like his PR, cause this, all of this has been a mess. He's in a lot of like little skirmishes like this. They need to really choose a lane. And if the lane is like, Andy doesn't have these decisions. He is now talent. He's just like you guys. Then he should not be going on his radio show and saying like, oh, New Jersey, we are doing

this. We think this is best. You know, it's so interesting because I feel like for many, many years, Andy really maintained a level of distance from the housewives. And that's why it was so complicated when he like cast Carol Radzowal because that was somebody from his personal life. He always, and I remember reading this in his books and he said it on the show, like he was very, very particular. He never followed any of

the ladies on Instagram because once you follow one, you have to follow all. And he really drew a line in the sand of like a level of professionalism. And then he got this like new deal where he like really wasn't involved in casting anymore. And I think he like let up a little bit. And then they had his baby shower, which obviously like that was quote unquote inappropriate behavior with your boss, right? You're shaking your ass on a table and drinking. And so I feel like there was a shift when Andy took on this new role where he at one point was like an employee of Bravo. Then he got this big deal where his production company and he's like an employee now of his production company and he's considered talent just like Brandy, right? And so I think his behavior

really shifted and he got more comfortable saying things like this and going out drinking and following people on Instagram and taking pictures. But I think it really worked out for him when he had that really strict sort of line in the sand where he didn't engage, no fraternization. And you were like, why not? Like, you're all friends, you're all celebrities. But it was better because then things like this didn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. And I understand Brandy's perspective, because on the one hand, like they've been she she's been treated this way by Andy, as he said, like pimps her out. That's her words for all these years and then like she really she got fired and everything for acting in the way that Andy's encouraged her to act it's confusing so I understand why she's mad and

confused yeah and that did that show ever air no I actually think they just aired it like it's it was old Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip Morocco, which had so much potential because Morocco is like a part of New York City housewife herstory. They brought in Alex McCord, Caroline Manzo. Like it was really supposed to be incredible. And then this whole thing happened between her and Caroline. And I don't know if they even aired it. And if they did, they had to cut out so much legally that like,

I don't know if it was even worth watching. Yeah. It was like, it just turned into a flop. Yeah. But when it was announced, oh my God, like not okay yeah alex mccord coming out of retirement it was years ago like at some point people stopped caring yeah but it seems as though andy's sailing through all of these different things that are going on and i'm sure like he'll continue to because if there was like people are suing but if there was that big new york yeah new yorker article yeah what was it where they have housewives speaking on record there's like plenty of housewives but none of it really has legs so um i don't know if he will like change

what he's doing but i imagine it's like he's not enjoying this either yeah right so or was a hollywood reporter where he was on the cover there's been a couple of those sorts of things yeah and he talked about it very briefly yeah like i can't it'd be you know when you once you're involved in like a legal drama obviously it sucks but you always have a line where you're like i can't talk about it it's legal drama yeah exactly legalese are you ready for our next story yeah a little movie making news because lionsgate has just pulled the trailer for their new um francis ford coppola movie and issued an apology saying we screwed up because they fabricated quotes from famous film critics in the trailer. You know how every movie trailer is like,

so-and-so says it's this and that. So Lionsgate is immediately recalling their trailer for Megalopolis. It's the new Francis Ford Coppola movie. How do you pronounce that? Megalopolis. Megalopolis, a spokesperson said in a statement to Variety, we offer our sincere apologies.

Is Francis Ford Coppola dead? I guess not. I guess not. This is such a weird story. Yeah. They offer their apologies to critics involved into Francis Ford Coppola and American zoetrope for this inexcusable error in our vetting process.

We screwed up and we are sorry. So the trailer released on Wednesday morning aimed to position his latest film as a work of art that would withstand the test of time, much like his other masterpieces, like The Godfather and Apocalypse Now. The video included several quotes from critics panning his previous work,

but none of the phrases attributed to the likes of Roger Ebert, you know, Ebert and Roper, and Pauline Kael could be found in any of their reviews. So they just like made up. By the way, I don't know why like everyone's freaking out and they had to pull this all the time. Like every trailer for everything ever made, not even just movies. It'll be like incredible film dot, dot, dot, end quote, People Magazine.

And then if you ever were to read it, the critic from People Magazine, incredible film, but lack depth. Or it's like this sought out to be an incredible film or like, personally, like incredible film dot dot dot like it's so misleading what's most shocking to me about this story is that someone actually took the time to go and look at the old reviews that they had written about older francis ford coppola movies only to find that they did not say those things that they said yeah like i feel like those trailers and those quotes are so misleading it's just like a thing now like every trailer has like a fake quote and you know what they've really started to do at first it was like okay they would put quotes in trailers from like reputable publications right

then they started like including people from social media you know yeah and then you go to the person's twitter profile and it's like an employee of lionsgate like it's literally fake and so why this is like becoming a scandal, like who cares? I guess because they're talking about like historic movies. I don't know. It seems very like highbrow and the critics, like they've had enough of people using their name in vain

and they don't like this. And I feel like as a critic, I mean, it's probably their job to also take a lot of criticism while giving it. And so they'll only take the true ones. There's really only one critic whose opinion matters to me and it's sandy kenyon with the eyewitness news movie minute i wonder what he thought about this movie the thing is sandy kenyon and i have never disagreed is that true no honestly like he has

some of the worst fucking taste i feel like he really he's like a snob industry plant too it's like the network says this like we have we've invested in this movie like sandy say it's good and it's true he's not pushing back. So Sandy, I'm so glad you brought that up. Actually, I actually think he's very scrupled and just being like a corporate man. You know,

he has a job and he's going to get the job done and keep his job. But so Sandy Kenyon, yes, he's on ABC, the I went to students movie minute and ABC is obviously owned by Disney. And so Disney, it's this huge conglomerate. They have production studios.

And so they sometimes will like review a movie. That's part of, that was like produced and paid for by Disney. And he has a little disclaimer at the end where he's like, and you know, Transformers is a MGM production, which is owned by Disney, our parent company. I just made all that up, but you know, same vibe. And he's basically winking to the audience because he cares about his authenticity, winking, being like, this is a paid promo. It's like, even though I know he's being winking to the audience because he cares about his authenticity, winking, being like, this is a paid promo. It's like, even though I know he's being paid to say the things that he says, and he's not really even saying anything. Like, has he ever even slammed a film? Like, no. Well, that's the thing. Sandy Kenyon just sort of radiates positivity.

Right. It's like, even though I know that he's being paid to say just nonsense, like I trust him. I also believe Sandy Kenyon is a regional actor like he I don't think you know our global fan base will know who he is and so for that I apologize because that sucks that must be really hard to not know Sandy Kenyon with the eyewitness news movie minute. He is like he's our local he's a national treasure and a regional treasure where he really rose to fame is on taxi tv because in New York City taxi cabs in the early 2000 2000s, they added TVs to the back seat. You guys, it was a cultural reset. It was a cultural shift, 1,000%. And then sometimes you would get like an older cab that didn't.

Now every single cab has a TV. But while they were rolling them out, sometimes you would get one that has it and one that doesn't. Yeah. And so they would all play the same things in different companies with buy spots. I remember I learned that like in the beginning of, it was from Talk Stoop.

Remember Talk Stoop? Oh my God. There were so many, there were so many little like mini TV shows that would play on repeat. That's like, you guys know, we quote it all the time. Chateaubriand.

No, and that Lion King. It is time. Hey you, in the backseat of the taxi. No, it is time. It was an ad for the Lion King. So these things would run like constantly and there was only a handful of them and they just became like cultural fixtures in new york city life talk soup is on television by the way but it started on taxi tv and when someone met with her who hosts it sarah yeah and she said like they started when they started on taxi tv like

no they couldn't like you couldn't no one when they started on taxi tv like no they couldn't like you couldn't no one was buying ads like it was so easy they could get arrested and now it's like it's iconic no and not to make everything about us but it was kind of really major for us because one of the classic back backs one of the classic taxi tv news reporters was a gorgeous bald headed man. David Oshry. Named David Oshry spelled U-S-H-E-R-Y. Literally our brother. Like David Oshry.

I love him. I hope he's doing well. Taxi TV like seriously means the world to me. Yeah. And it's still on but it's not the same. And now like anyone can buy taxi TV and it's like kind of like lowbrow. It is. They do like a lot of NBC first look like they repackage that content that plays after snl where they go try like different food sometimes they have jeopardy and that i like oh yeah i always turn off my taxi tv now because of my

motion sickness i can't be watching tv in the backseat what am i a toddler um with the new congestion tax i actually don't really take taxis anymore it's sick how they've put those medallions out of business a thousand percent don't get a medallion now it's impossible don't really take taxes anymore. It's sick how they've put those medallions out of business. A thousand percent. Don't get us started. You know what it costs to get a medallion now? It's impossible. Don't get us started. It's impossible to work.

Anyways, we'll have to find out what Sandy Kenyon thought about the megalopolis. What a strange story. And it seems as though Adam Driver's in the movie. He would be. Lots of movies coming out, don't you find? No. I feel like it's like the same sort of level of out. Don't you find? No, I feel like it's like the same, like sort of level of release.

I don't know. I drove past a marquee the other day and there was like a lot of stuff and I had heard of a lot of them too. Right. I think what you're confusing, I don't think there's more movies. I think there's like, just happens to be a time right now where like a lot of movies that you are

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You're welcome, Bert. 25Turt. Yup. Our fifth and final story. Megan Thee Stallion is set to host the MTV Video Music Awards. Megan Thee Stallion will take on hosting duties at an awards show for the first time as she takes the lead role at the 2024 MTV Video Music Awards. The network announced on Thursday. She has previously hosted SNL and co-hosted The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. She herself is up for five awards during the VMAs. Oh, I wonder how many she'll win.

How many do you think she'll win? Five for five? No, they can't be so obvious. She'll go four for five and then she'll make history. History or herstory? Herstory. I think Megan Thee Stallion is like one of those great celebrities who has a ton of personality and like can be tapped for things like this and I think it all like overall improves her brand and and then she obviously gets the awards because she's you know the host and that's great too um but and and I like that actually MTV like never taps like the jimmies right you know but having taps like the Jimmys, right? You know? But having people like the Jimmys who are not eligible for any awards, it does give like a sort of, like a leveled playing field. Whereas like if you're up against Megan Thee Stallion

in a category and she's hosting, like I wonder who's going to win. You're probably not going to win. Yeah. And it also just begs the question, like why does she want to do this? Like she would be going to the award show anyway. It's like hosting is a whole job in and of in itself I think when you're hosting something as fun as the the amazing you're so like loved

as Megan Thee Stallion I don't think there's anything that she's gonna do that like is risky yeah so I think it'll it'll all be good but like it's a hard like it's a lot of work it's a lot of prep like why would you even want to I don't know no a thankless job I seriously I can't imagine somebody at her level wanting to do this yeah because you get to go to the you're going anyway just sit and enjoy I think either you get paid a lot because it's like a paramount production or you know and this is like what we're always saying about Taylor Swift like going to these random award shows that she seems to be like too good for like the teen choice awards but as a part of like getting

to this level of legacy artists, like you want to be the most awarded, whatever. And these awards do count. And so Megan, the stallion maybe would have won a bunch, but like now as the host, like you definitely get.

And so when you want to get to a level, like, and she's cause she's like, she's at a high level, but she's on the up, right. She's, she wants to get to,

and you want to be the, you know, the most awarded female rapper of all time. And so doing things like this is like a part of, it's a part of the music industry that like, I don't understand that kind of how we were talking about how Taylor releasing these pop. It's like this old storied way of doing business that I don't understand, but that works. Yeah.

That's a good point. That's how I would explain it. I think. Yeah. Well, I think she'll be good as far as, you know, who they could get. That's an artist that she's bursting with it. So I think she'll be really good. Oh my God., who they could get that's an artist that she's bursting with it. So I think she'll be really good. Oh, my God.

You know, I saw a video of Lizzo and I literally forgot about her. Like, I think that her like scandal like really affected her business. And I just saw a video of it was actually her sharing. She's like been in the gym. She's like lost a significant amount of weight. And of course, like that became like huge news for everyone because like Lizzo's the face of that movement. And she's like making changes.

And, you know, I'm not going to comment. That's great for her. I'm not like, you know, but it really put into perspective because I realized I'm like, I haven't seen a video of Lizzo like or even like a mention of Lizzo in so long. Like, I think that that lawsuit had a real effect on her business. of Lizzo in so long like I think that that lawsuit had a real effect on her business but I think she also took a step back because of like she like because of it like she was going no it was she couldn't do anything without people talking about it yeah well no it was really bananas like what was alleged it was bananas and it was so in congress with who she is like seriously it was

really bad and and the lawsuit will have to play out. But I think on the one hand, if she ignored it and kept working, like, I don't know how that would have gone for her. But her taking a backseat and being quiet, it's the dominant story about her. It's the last thing we said about Lizzo. And it's the only thing that we really remember right now. But yeah, it is not good. No.

And the opposite. And like we said said the opposite of who she says to be that's when that's when it's really bad especially when so much of her brand is like about being authentic and relatable and loving everyone and it's like you're none of those things yeah none of them well I just was like really I like had actually forgotten about her it's so crazy how you can like come into the public sphere and like be everywhere all at once and then it happened so quickly and it happens so like i didn't even realize she was kind of being like phased out of culture yeah but i also feel like and it makes sense that that's why some of these pop stars like don't stop working like when we used to say

ariana grande take a nap and i feel like she was worried about being phased out of culture like she in hindsight wasn't wrong that didn't happen to her because I do think she's at a level where she can come and go as she pleases. Now she is. But like it really reminds me of Camila Cabello because there was a time when like you couldn't walk down the street without hearing one of her songs. And now that's not the case. Now she's just like everyone else. She's like a singer. Yeah.

Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like she's kind of whenever she comes back as you said she's coming back like i feel like she's gonna have to claw her way again yes it's just it's crazy how you can be at the havana level uh-huh and then not yeah okay i'm really excited to talk about love is blind oh yes and we're starting with freddie and katherine of course of course we'll go couple by couple so after freddie and katherine freddie and katherine um spoiler alert the spoilers begin now. Love is buying UK.

Everyone else who hasn't watched yet go watch. And if not, have a great day. We love you and we'll see you tomorrow. So our final show before the summer. So Freddie and Catherine didn't get married. She said yes.

He said no. And I think we all hoped that that was going to be the case. The only thing that kind of threw a wrench in my experience was him sending her the earrings. Yeah, with a really sweet note like we're in this together but I guess it's converse with the fact that he wanted to still date her after the fact or yes I'm here or maybe he really didn't know up until that moment so if he did say yes he's like well I want to treat my

bride special on her wedding day I was overjoyed I got really upset watching like I actually got really emotional we were crying we were hysterically crying because it was this very sweet moment where his older brother who was like non-verbal down syndrome um walked him down the aisle which was so sweet and right before they walked down the aisle his brother who really hasn't said much during his time on air just sort of nestled his head in Freddie's like bosom if you will the crook of his arm and looked up and and he said, Freddie. And he hasn't spoken much. And Freddie was like looking in his eyes. It was one of the most tender moments I've ever seen. I could like literally start crying talking about it. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life. And just knowing that there was this girl at the end of the aisle who doesn't care about his brother. I don't think she cares. She's so materialistic and

she has done everything she can to like hide that side of her. But when you got to know her friends, you really got to see like who she hangs out with. And I keep going back to thinking of what Ollie said about her. I thought Ollie was so judgmental. I'm like, oh my, you're going to like pass on this girl because of this type of club she goes to. And I don't understand British culture, but he must have like understood something about the type of girls who go there.

Because I think he clocked her so accurately. And it really was making me sick because Freddie is this pure of heart. They don't make men like Freddie anymore. They don't make human beings like Freddie anymore. He is so pure. He is so lovely. Whatever Catherine looked like, he would have loved her till the day she died. And I don't think that she was there for the right reasons.

I think if she said yes, it was because he was very good looking and that he had a very steady job. And this is a person who lives at home with her parents. Like, yeah, she, she was just like happy to have somewhere new to live. Yeah. She's very judgmental and she's very materialistic for somebody who lives at home. Like you're almost 30 and you don't even have your own apartment. Like, okay. Yeah. I thought like the more I learned about her and I think it took me a really long time to get to the place where last night, like I hated her. No, when we first started watching, I love Freddie and Catherine.

Like I loved them as a couple. I thought they were so sweet. I was so happy when they found each other in those first few days in Greece when they were so happy together. I was like, this is so beautiful. But like the way she would like pick on him, start fights with him, like ask him a question.

And no matter how he answered it, like it was the wrong answer. And even when he tried to answer it, oh, so you want me to say this? Like, let me say that. She's mad about that too. Like just really making his life unhappy. You could see his light dimming throughout the show. Cause like when they went shopping together, that was like such a painful scene. He's like trying to joke and, and just like have fun and

pick out funny things. And she's like so irritated by him. And so he's just like, Oh, I won't do that anymore. anymore like and he's just making himself smaller for her this wench when like he is perfect absolutely perfect the way that he is by the time that they got married I was like this woman is empty inside she has absolutely she's not even just like surface like and there's not even the surface layer like she has no depth she has no just like deep yeah like love in her heart when she was with her family and oh my god the way she treats her parents she treats her parents but like when she was in the bridal suite with her family and friends like talking about if freddie's gonna say

yes or not like i felt like i was watching like a grift i felt like i was watching an episode of american grief like are we going to swindle this big funeral owner or not? Like I seriously, it felt like a lifetime movie. And by the way, I want to say her parents are lovely. They love her so much. And I think they know that she's like,

kind of like a, I don't know. She's so vapid. Bad seed. Yeah. And even, and I know she was upset when, you know,

and so she's allowed to like, you know, lash out, but like her parents were so lovely. And even before, so she didn't know Freddie was going to say no, her dad's walking down the aisle. And you know lash out but like her parents were so lovely and even before so she didn't know freddie was gonna say no her dad's walking down the aisle and you know they always show the the bride with the person who's walking them down the aisle and there's a sweet moment

and her dad is saying these lovely things to her she doesn't even respond i think she's awful like i really i i hate her no i i and i was feeling so mad watching and i especially that scene with a brother it really was just emblematic of the type of person Freddie is like whoever Freddie marries like has to be as committed to taking care of his brother for the rest of his life as and that's what the prenup conversation was about because like if something happens to Freddie like that person needs to step into that role and like there's not a woman on the show who would have been a worse candidate for that. A thousand percent. And calling it now my Queenie of the Week is his fucking sister,

who saw from the moment they sat down on that couch. Betsy Dora. Do-do-do-do-do-Dora. What's her name? Betsy Dora. Do-do-do-do-Betsy Dora. She is a precious angel Dora. Yeah.

She knew from the moment, and you know what? She was brave to say something, and Freddie said, you know, what my sister said influenced me, but I knew. Yeah. She knew from the moment and you know what? She was brave to say something. And Freddie said, you know what my sister said, like influence me, but I knew. Yeah. Queen only wishing the best for Betsy Jorah. And so when he finally said no, like the relief, the cheers in the room, the crowds went wild. Oh my God. The relief that we felt like, I felt like we just like staved off something really bad. And you know, seeing that he wants to still date her,

he's just not ready to marry her yet. Like that was disappointing. It's fine by me because I think he needs that time to be certain that she is not right for him. And like in time, everyone, you can only pretend for so long. So I do think she was playing down her, the more materialistic, but like, it's not even materialistic.

That's like a bad thing. Cause you know, we love material goods. It's a real lack of depth. Yeah. And caring and very like just selfish and vapid. And I'm glad you brought up like pretending because I want to talk about Demi and Ollie next. And for me, like.

Oh, so wait, I just wanted to, if we're done wrapping up Freddie and Catherine, which I guess, I guess we are. To me, like I have seen through Ollie this entire time. Right. Cause he's someone to me who was really into Catherine, which I guess, I guess we are. To me, like I have seen through Ollie this entire time, right? Cause he's someone to me who was really into Catherine when he saw her. He's very into physical looks. And every, when he was in Mexico, everyone was like, what's wrong? What's wrong? Like, and he's like, nothing's wrong. Nothing's wrong. Something was obviously wrong. So to me, he's a person who's been lying the whole time. And he almost got me because I'm like,

damn, actually, will these two get married? But the fact that they took, everybody had to be apart for three days before the wedding and Demi comes in and says, I haven't spoken to him once. Like he was acting for the show. He didn't want to come off as a dick because he had a girl who wasn't his type and he didn't want to break up with her. He was going to see this thing through, but you know, he gets off for three days. He's not going to talk to this girl.

Like, and so that's why she said no, by the way. I think that if he had continued playing with her and pretending throughout those three days, I think she would have said yes. I am so mad that they let her go first because I wanted to see, oh, you're really going to take this all the way. He got off the hook. Oh my God. Seriously. And then when she said no, he like looks at the priest like what, what? Like being such an actor. Yeah. But I feel like he might've also thought she was going to say yes. Cause she was so in love with him and that he would say no. I think a part of him was like one relieved but also his ego was bruised it was weird but he got off scot-free because he was playing a part this entire time the entire time like he really like

fixed himself in greece when like he was yeah he's like oh people are on to me yeah and then i think also it got easier when they got home because she has wonderful family and friends and they and he likes them and he got along with them and and their lives were really intertwining intertwining. And that was nice. So they were able to like coast for a while and it wasn't as hard for him. But I do think, you know, to make the decision to spend your life with someone like you're not going to do that just to be liked on television. Of course. And if he had taken it all the way and then been like he could have explained it away.

Right. Like, yeah, listen, I want to keep seeing you, but I'm not all the way there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so mad that they didn't make him go first like seriously he got away with murder yeah but then I guess they were also sparing Demi one like being turned down at the altar and two she got to take a little bit of her power back and turn him down after I feel like he wasn't the kindest to her the entire season so her confidence, I think that was really good that she got to be the one to say no. Agreed a thousand percent. I, you know, she's so interesting because all the girls are very beautiful and they all are in full glam like the whole time. And Demi really committed

to like, okay, this is a reality show. I'm going to be real. And there were a lot of scenes with her not wearing makeup and to see her, um, show up so so glam she looked insanely gorgeous at her wedding insanely gorgeous and that's what happens when you're not always full glam like all the girls are always glam so they're just like glam again she looked so different like you know like and special I thought she looked so beautiful and I was so happy for and I feel like this experience while she didn't come out with a husband and that was obviously the goal she said at the end and I really believed her like I think this is one of the best things that ever happened to her I think she like like I said she like found herself a little bit she was going through something at the beginning of the show

like well personally and we were like watching that unfold and like we couldn't figure it out and I think she came out on the other side and I do think and she said that this was such a positive experience and I believe her and I think she's probably really better off for having gone on the show even though she didn't come out you know technically winning with a husband yeah but it kind of reminds me of camp a little bit like you're in a bunk with all these girls and they and they lift you up and they lift you up and they show you new things and you learn from them they are influenced by them and i feel like this group of girls was also just like a great group that really helped her like like the fact that her best friend in the house

is jasmine who's who's so feminine and glamorous and like you know confident like i feel like that's so great for them and she probably like learned so much, confident. Like, I feel like that's so great for Demi. She probably like learned so much and was uplifted by that. So I do think that's really great. A thousand percent. Um, just like seriously hate Ollie and hate that he got away. And yeah, that is the order of who they were letting go first. Piss me off, which is a good transition to Tom and Maria. I think we all knew Tom was going to say no. And we're going to talk about his reasonings. Cause seriously, like I laughed, I actually giggled. I wanted to see what she would have said. I know me too. Cause I think she might've said yes. I think she was going to say no because she didn't seem as

upset as I thought she was going to be. Correct. She never in her confessionals afterwards was like, I thought we were getting married today. Like I, or I was going to say yes. She, I felt like she might've said no. And I think that she should have said no. I feel like Tom was not kind to her and his reasoning for saying no is not, I don't want to have children with her who then get raised that if they're a boy, they have to pay for dates. Like you're worried about your hypothetical children's financial future in 30 years. Right. You're worried about something 30 years from now and not more worried about like your immediate happiness. That makes no sense. People have differing values on stuff all the time. It's not, there are things that are absolute deal breakers, but something like that, I don't,

I think that they could have like worked through it. Maybe you pay for this. I pay for that. Like just figuring things out. And also that's a conversation. That's a pod conversation. Sorry. Yeah. Well, by the way, it's really what they were talking about when she was like, you know, I want to take a few years off work once we have kids like those are moments i don't want to miss and he was like well i want someone ambitious like he is like kind of a toxic uh feminist where it's like oh we're so equal like you have to do the same amount of work as babies don't stop working pay for everything oh and her work is not enough right like he's judgmental about what she does for a living yeah he sounds horrible like seriously like no grace for her being a woman he is but it's just frustrating because that's a conversation that should have ended their

relationship in the pods so then to take it all the way to then be broken up by something that was should have been dealt with in the beginning like is annoying i also just think it's an excuse i don't think that they were like so in love but the way that we talk about their connection and their compatibility i didn't see it all the time i do think they had like fun together and they liked each other i think they had a great physical attraction I think they had like amazing sex yeah and but then you also have pod connection so that does give you a level of emotional connectivity and sometimes it's really those two things like we relate on emotional level we like each other physically there are other life factors but I

didn't feel like it was the life factors because they blended really well into each other's lives I know and I can't imagine like you know at some point you're you're 40 like you can't be so particular Tom like right little things about like paying for dates that's what's stopping you that's the only issue I'm just saying I don't think that's the only issue and we're not getting honesty and I want honesty I sat here for 10 episodes agreed I also want to say um Maria is a queen like I she was one of my favorites in terms of the women her and Jasmine and you want to go to Jasmine now I thought she I just want to say Maria is a queen. Like I, she was one of my favorites in terms of the women, her and Jasmine. And you want to go to Jasmine now? I thought she, I just want to say like, I don't know if she did her own makeup on her wedding.

I kept wondering if they were going to bring that up. I think she did. She looked so insanely gorgeous. She was probably my favorite look, like really clean, classic, like hair pulled back, simple dress, no crazy jewels or anything. I, I thought she looked great. But yes, I want to talk about Jasmine. Jasmine, my queen, obsessed. And actually they planted a little doubt they didn't but it was a similar situation to

Freddie but like it was like with Freddie his family was like telling him like we don't know about this and like he needed to listen to that and for Jasmine her mom was saying like seriously no and she's listened to everything her mom has said her entire life and and she needed to not listen the crazy thing is that her mom didn't say anything unreasonable, right? She said, we don't really know this person and I am not confident in his ability to provide for you. Um, he has like kind of a, a murky job history and the music video, of course. And so those are valid concerns from a mom about, you know, who your daughter's marrying. And you said this while we were watching and you were so right. You were like, yeah, what she's saying is not wrong at all. But Jasmine's the type of woman who can make a man out of, out of who she

chooses. And she's very alpha. And that's a very, you know, you need a particular type of man for that. And Bobby's so down to fit into her life. Like, however he will do, you want me to go to work? You want me to show Jackie? You were like, she'll send him to business school. She will. Yeah, she will. I have no concerns about him being able to provide for her. The things that were concerns about Bobby are fixable. He doesn't not have ambition. He doesn't not want to do all these things for Jasmine. He loves her so much and he'll be an amazing husband to her.

And those are the things that are not fixable. So him just like getting a new job, she could be on LinkedIn in two seconds, finding him interviews, getting him dressed, getting him briefed out the door. There are women like that. And there are men like that. And there are, there are like great men who have done great things because they always say like, you look at a powerful man, like there's a more powerful woman behind. And she's so that type of person. You were so right about that. I love them together. I think they have a real love. Yeah. The things that are great

about their relationship are not things that you can fix about someone else. Like they are interconnected. They respect each other. They love each other and they like each other. And he just needs a better job. She's going to make that happen. I was so happy for them. Yeah, me too. I was so hoping, I thought they would say yes. I'm glad that they said yes. The fact that they played his song at the end of their wedding.

Hilarious. I needed that moment of levity. We were like, what is everyone singing? This song has been weighing on me. Yeah, I know. And now like knowing it's like a funny thing in their family, in their life. Like that's, that's great. I saw a picture of the entire cast, like at the premiere. And I think that, I think a significant amount of time has passed since this was filmed because everybody looked really different. Jasmine is full black hair. She looked amazing. Oh, great.

How long were Sabrina's bangs? That's how you can tell the passage of time. Yeah. Sabrina, I think had the biggest like physical glow up on the show from the girl we met in the pods to the girl who ended up getting married she like really grew she had like this maturity her bangs grew but like overall like she just looked so happy they were like a no-brainer right we all knew they were gonna say yes they didn't even try to make us doubt like they were just like they put them first it was like all love they wanted to kick us off on a good note also for the UK this is their first season they want to show everyone like marriage is happening yep this can work so they started with a love match I have no commentary

like I'm so happy for them they're really well suited I do still have questions about his girlfriend with the tumor who broke up with him and then healed like but for now it's good yeah and I I wish them well Nicole and Benaiah were like the only couple who said yes who I was not sure about well everyone like made me unsure and also people have been commenting like on our episode being like you guys like Benaiah like he's so weird like no he's definitely it's just his hair no but like they think Benaiah's like red flags oh no I think he's really sweet I think he's like a little nerdy maybe that that's what's coming off. I think the way everybody around them talked about them, like this connection that they had, I just personally wasn't seeing it. So I was like, I think they're going to get married

because the way everybody talks about them, but I don't see this great love match. But, and then she was acting kind of weird at the altar. Like she was acting kind of sad for him. For him, he was like, of course I do. Yeah. Like they didn't even make us wait for him to say I do I was like okay but she's gonna break up with him I was so not seeing what everyone was seeing but they said yes and you know good for them yeah I was hoping that they would say yes too I just think of the three couples who got married if any of them were to get divorced like it's gonna be them because of the way they got together so because Jasmine and Bobby I think are so strong and Sabrina and Steven like are ironclad. So by default it would be them.

But I think there's a reunion. There is something about her where like she just doesn't like know her own mind. Like she keeps making like the wrong choice. It's true. I don't know if she doesn't trust her gut or her gut is off, but like it's a little bit, that's a little weird. It's so true.

But hopefully she's got it right this time and like they can just live their lives and enjoy. like, it's a little bit, that's a little weird. It's so true. But hopefully she's got it right this time. And like, they can just live their lives and enjoy. I think there's a reunion, which makes me so happy. Um, I need to see what everyone's up to. I need to know if Catherine and Freddie like did date. Are they still dating? Are they engaged? Like I need to know if he's called Molly Mae or if Molly Mae has called him. That's what I need to know. So all in all, like seriously obsessed. Yeah. It was a really enjoyable ride. And I want to say it's, it's really better than us. I think every season of us is different. Yeah. And I'm sure the next season of UK would be terrible. I don't need

to compare. I go season by season. It's such a great show. There's nothing like a great season of love is blind. It's true. It's really, really fantastic. Seriously wise. There's nothing like a great season of Love is Blind. It's true. It's really, really fantastic. Seriously, when I was doing the ad for gummy vitamins, I got like, I'm so hungry that it sounded delicious. We need to wrap up so I can eat. Like I'm running. Okay, we're wrapping.

And I'm wrapping. I'm not even doing my thing. Like I need a sandwich to the face stat. And I'm just going to let you know that I love you. Bye.