The Toast - Drew Be Drewin', Jets Be Jetsin': Wednesday, September 13th, 2023

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy hump day! It doesn't feel like a hump day because I'm so far away from the girl whom I wish to hump. Her name is Jackie and she's on the other end. Hey, Jax. How you doing? I'm doing good. At least we can be together virtually on this hump day because we weren't supposed to be. Plans have changed around here. It's true. En caso de que. That's like my favorite thing to

say in Spanish. En caso de que. So much better than in case. Yeah, it rolls off the tongue. It really does. So en caso de que, that you guys don't follow us on Instagram, you're probably expecting to see a gorgeous video and audio episode today with Hannah Berner. I'm not feeling great. I'm actually feeling a lot better than I was yesterday, but I just need to listen to my body like all the influencers I follow tell me to do. And that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm resting. I'm drinking tea.

I'm definitely on the mend, but I just needed a minute. What are you eating? What am I eating? Did I say I was eating? You said that you're resting, drinking tea, but you omitted what you are eating, which has been incalculable in making you feel better. Oh, oh, yeah, we should talk about that. So yes, okay, I have fallen ill.

And do we think the timing is suspicious on Monday after I ragged on soup? I do. I do think it's suspicious. Yeah, soup watching Monday's episode, side eye. Literally that evening, I'm like, I'm kind of tired. You know, like I'm like, maybe I'm just, you know, tired. 100%. Yeah, no, soup was getting back at you.

And they were like, we're going to show you because now Claudia has fallen ill and she's taken to eating soup. And she said, not only is it very tasty, but it's making her feel better. So I didn't say it was tasty. I didn't say it was tasty I didn't say it was tasty I think that you did I think that you did say that when you and I were chatting on the phone I was like by the way I'm not feeling well but like I just had some soup and I immediately felt better like it was actually crazy so do you want to take back your slanderous words about soup and maybe they will lift the illness sooner so that you can come to Florida listen I didn't say anything. I said.

Do you stand by what you said or are you going to apologize? Yes. I do stand by what I said. What I had said was that. Do better. You know, I don't. Do better. I said, it really does make you feel better. Like it's so annoying because I don't love the taste. That's exactly how I feel. I'm never going to apologize for saying exactly how I feel. I feel like you were a bit harsher. Like soup is disgusting. It is. But okay. I think you learned your lesson. When I was drinking my consomme just broth from Second Avenue Jelly yesterday, I was like, this is gross. Okay. You're doubling down. Soup is going to come for you. Soup is going to come for you. Don't you want to get better? I'm speaking my truth. I'm

speaking my truth. But you have to get better because you're supposed to come for you. Don't you want to get better? I'm speaking my truth. I'm speaking my truth. But you have to get better because you're supposed to come see me tomorrow. And if you are sick, you can't come. Well, I got an IV last night. I'm feeling much better. What do you have, by the way? What? Like, what do you have?

What ails you? I don't know. I just, like, I have, like, exhaustion. I have, like, a little tickle in my throat. That actually has went away. I've been drinking a lot of tea, a lot of fluid, a lot of liquid IV. I have like a little tickle in my throat. That actually has went away. I've been drinking a lot of tea, a lot of fluid, a lot of liquid IV. I got an IV yesterday. So I had like a little bit of – you could tell I'm like a little nasally.

I don't know if you guys can hear like my sexy, my sticky, sticky shows. Like that kind of vibe. It's not super nasally though. It's not like you're congested, correct? No, yeah. Like I'm not crazy sick. I just like wasn't feeling well. Run down.

I'm run down. I wasn't feeling well. So I did something crazy. I worked from home. Are you okay with your text messages? You want to mute your computer while we're podcasting? I just put myself on do not disturb because everyone just wants a piece of me. And that's just going to happen every time we do an audio only episode.

It's going to happen once and then I'm going to turn it off. It's not a part of your routine to, like, mute your computer before we start. It is for me. No. I don't know, because a part of me just feels like if I mute my computer, then, like, I'm going to be muted. Even right now, I didn't turn the volume off on my computer. I turned my whole apparatus on Do Not Disturb.

I'm always on Do Not Disturb when we podcast. Do Not Disturb is, like, a fabulous feature. feature it's a fabulous feature but when you have children you really need to be available to be disturbed so i'll be able to still see what's going on anyways that's why it um it keeps happening to me so like don't mama shame me thanks literally wasn't i think you were kind of like un-mama shaming maybe and that's what you happen when you're a child like that was the vibe so don't twist it don't twist it fair yeah okay cool um in terms of tomorrow I am still planning on coming I'll see how I feel when I wake up like I do feel like if I had to get on a plane right now I would be fine I just like

wouldn't want to. Yeah. Okay. So take it easy. That's why we're doing audio only. It's so funny. We were like so excited to be back. You know, maternity leave's over and now it's as if I'm pregnant again and we are audio

only-ing. I, I know. It's so stupid. Like I can't say this enough times. Like how maybe, maybe 5% of our listeners watch on YouTube. Like as long as you and I get an audio episode up, we like, our jobs are done. Like it's really just as done as a regular video.

But I feel so incomplete. I hate podcasting from home. I love being in the studio. I feel like I do my best work. Yeah, same. Something about- When I'm like dressed up. I look like a slob today.

I haven't washed my hair. Yeah, getting up, getting dressed. By the time we finish an audio only episode, like I'm just in When I'm like dressed up. I look like a slob today. I haven't washed my hair. Yeah, getting up, getting dressed. By the time we finish an audio only episode, like I'm just in a pool of my own sweat. Weirdly, podcasting is such a sweaty endeavor and I'm not a huge sweater. So it's like, it's not like I just sweat while I'm sitting. But when I sit in podcast, audio only, not in my studio.

Yes, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Okay. Because when we podcast from home we're using like pretty good mics but they're not our studio mics so we turn off our air conditioning like we make it a very you know quiet environment so that is why when we're done podcasting from home we're I always have like literally a line of sweat between my thigh and my vagina okay just want to say I don't turn off my AC I didn't when I was pregnant because like I

couldn't like I would have overheated and now I don't have noisy AC in my bedroom. So that's not the reason. I think the reason is when we're in like, at least for me, my contraption of computer microphone charger table on my bed is like all very precarious. And if I move, it could all crumble. So I literally have to sit in the same position for an hour straight like and and it's not a smart position it's like my legs are tucked up like I'm sitting like Debbie style and then you know I get sweaty behind my knees and in every crease that didn't move for one hour no that's that's true but also another reason it could be it's like all these devices like you have like this microphone they emit heat like computers emit heat they do also it just could be it just could be the very physical nature of what we do of the work and if we weren't such gesticulators and talking with our hands and so emotive maybe we wouldn't break a sweat no but a sweat. No, maybe it's the gesticulation. It's the gesticulation. Yeah, I think so. Wow. We got to the bottom of it. I'm glad we kind of

got to the bottom of that. Yeah. So that's why we're podcasting from home. It's going to be a great episode though. It's still Wednesday. We've actually got great stories of EMAs we're on last night. I watched most of them. And we have deer toasters, really good ones. And we have an update too. Can't wait. I haven't done a deer toaster in a while. I guess not since before maternity leave. So I'm happy and excited to help our girlies out.

I was excited to get Hannah Burner helping people. I feel like she would have given funny advice. But I have rebooked her, everyone. Don't worry. I believe it's the first week of October. I can't remember exactly. But she's coming back. Don't worry.

We got it done great and you just got a little extra Jackson quad original recipe this week and we'll still be doing the show together on Friday so it all works out basically what we're trying to say is that all's well that ends well but I'm in a new hell every time see I wasn't gonna bring up that part because I'm not in a new hell. I'm with my girly. Like what's better than that? It's so true. Speaking of your girly we need to address something. Yeah I literally we both said it at the same exact time. The highlights from yesterday is what we're going over and one of them was I sent Claudia a gift to her home because I saw these items online. I felt that Turdy needed them. They were so Turdy and you know me I like to just send a little gift here and there when I see something that makes me think of someone. When you see something you say something. When I see something

I buy something. Yeah. So I sent Turdy like a little care package of things from Bloomingdale's because that's literally her second residence. Yes. And one thing that they had was a pickleball paddle. They did a collab with Recess. So I just was like, oh, these items are so turdy. I'm thinking of her. Sent a little note in my order, sent it off, and I was so excited for you to receive it. I opened my phone yesterday.

I go to your Instagram story and she posts the pickleball paddle saying, thank you, Bloomingdale's and Recess. Okay. Let's start from the beginning. I immediately was like, oh my God, no, I sent you that. But then I actually thought it was such a turdy specific gift that maybe they gifted it to you too. And I'm, you know, the schmuck who bought it for you. Right.

So let me just tell you from my POV. Okay. Like the aftermath, of course, I'm humiliated that my first instinct would be like, oh my God, the brands of the world are trying to get to 30. Like I'm so self-involved. Like that tracks. I didn't even delete it because it's so accurate of like how high I think of myself, honestly. Second of all, in my defense, a few things.

Like a week ago, I had posted that I wanted to get my own pickleball paddle and like what brands did people recommend. So I figured like this was a direct result of that Instagram story, first of all. Second of all, I'm going to blame Bloomingdale's here. Their note system is not great. You know how like when you order online, you get a return label. It's like printed on a sticker. So you just peel the sticker off and you place it when you want to return stuff.

The note was literally at the bottom of a sticker. I was like, it looked just like gibberish, like a tracking number. Like I didn't even look at it. I just threw it right away. Yeah, that's not right. Because I did specify this is a gift. I would like to write a message. And that's how it came.

No, yeah. And like it was a message and that's how it came. No. Yeah. And like it was gift wrapped now that I think about it. But I figured, you know, the marketing department. Yeah. They want to put their best foot forward. Impressed. Of course.

And then furthermore, there wasn't just a pickleball paddle in there. There was a t-shirt that appeared to be like some sort of merch for the restaurant that is on the seventh floor of Bloomingdale's called 40 Carrots. They have the best ice cream in the city. And I eat there probably four or five times a week. Right. So I was like, oh, they obviously have come to know me as a regular. I never get any special treatment there.

But I'm like, you know what? I kind of put this place on the map. Like, I'm actually, I didn't put it on the map. I'm keeping it on the map because it's always been on the map. And I'm just like, oh, it's so nice to finally be recognized. Maybe I can like, you know, cut a line here and there now. Get a free ice cream. I thought I was really like becoming VIP at Bloomingdale's 40 carats so I'm like oh my time has finally come I didn't even question it. For my POV I saw the pickleball paddle I was like Claudia has to have this and I was looking they're having like their

50th anniversary like Bloomingdale's Bazaar where they had all of these brands design items that have the Bloomingdale's like logo or iconic Bloomingdale's things it was like four pages of things and like you are obsessed with Bloomingdale's so I went through every single page like looking for the right gift for you so I saw this 40 carats t-shirt which you eat at 40 carats every single day I day. She has to have that. And it's like really cute embroidered with a frozen yogurt. Ice cream cone. And the pickleball paddle. So for me, I guess that's how much it was like the perfect gift for you that like.

So many different people. It was going to find its way to you no matter the avenue. Well, let me say, and I feel like this is most important. Thank you. Like you're in the throes of postpartumhood and you're thinking of me. Like I honestly, I'm so blessed. Like I really am.

You're such a great sister. It's such a great gift. I cannot wait. I might bring my pickleball paddle down to Florida with me in case you want to play. Oh my God, yes. Oh my God, but you're going to just be so much more stylish than me.

I just wanted to say thank you. Like it's really, it's an amazing gift. Now why we need to talk about like my obsession with Bloomingdale's. Like why? I mean my obsession with the restaurant is not even a question. It is the premier restaurant. I do have some notes for them and every time I go in there, I try and like find a manager because I really feel like they should start serving french fries.

I think it would really change like the landscape of, like they're known for like sandwiches, wraps salads and what is better what's more girl dinner than like a salad with fries I really feel if they had fries the restaurant would like have a whole new era I understand but I also understand why they don't have fries my issue with 40 carats these days is the quality control like so many times we'll get lunch and it's like you can tell this was not made with love. That this was actually made with hate. It's really disgusting. Like I'll get a veggie burger on top of a salad, like with my salad.

And the veggie burger is like still frozen a little bit. So the lettuce is browning. Okay. Like literally there's two types. Because we're not making it sound appealing. There's two types of 40 carat stays. Like the ones where it is the best restaurant ever. Like everything is fresh and healthy

and good. And the ones where it was just made with hate. Hate filled food. But I feel like if people like aren't from New York or they haven't heard of 40 carats like it's important to know like when you and I were in high school like there was not a cooler better restaurant. Like it was in its heyday the place to

be and it was always delicious and now but by the way it's really just like a lunch spot it's not a restaurant like don't be making reservations for dinner it's like a cafeteria yeah but it just has like a good menu and like good energy I can't explain it but it's like a very Jewish restaurant like they serve like tuna salad chicken salad egg salad like it's very Jewish restaurant. Like they serve like tuna salad, chicken salad, egg salad. Like it's very Jewish. And in its heyday, like it was supreme. And it's definitely not as popular as it once was. And like I feel very strongly like that it needs to come back full force. I do think the French fries would change the game for them.

And you know what? Like, okay, I'll offer up my services. Like they need to like collab with an influencer. Like they need to do something to get themselves back on the map. Like I was thinking like last time I was there, I was like we need to have like the turdy meal on the menu where you get like a large diet Coke, my favorite wrap, grilled chicken Caesar wrap,

and a fro-yo on the side and it's like sold as a meal. Kind of like Travis Scott did at like Bloomingdale's. I mean McDonald's. Like I really – I feel like an investor in 40 carats maybe they'll let you invest but I don't know the turkey like you better I just don't understand why I can't order a salad wrap in a froyo no you can you can but it wouldn't be the turkey meal that's true but the turkey like I feel like when you're gonna do a custom meal it has to be like a little more custom no it has to be like a little better but like I eat crap so that's what you're gonna get yeah no there's a lot that they could do and they

don't do and I just want to know what the difference is between the days where the food is made with love and made with hate like is it a different chef like is it right is it just like you know the last day of the groceries and they're getting fresh delivery tomorrow it's so true like when Jackie was on bed rest but she was in New York like pretty much three or four times a week I would come over and bring lunch because I was having lunch but like either by myself or meeting a friend always had lunch at 40 carats and then I'd be like Jackie I'm gonna bring you something because I was coming over to her house anyway and I would literally walk in and she would be like was it a day that

was made with love or was it a day that it was made with hate and like based on what you ate I knew how mine was gonna taste and that was always correct so they just like need like they need to get it together I'm hoping that this podcast can be some sort of impetus for them to just revamp refresh refresh and I know I know that it's called 40 carrots and I know that like carrots are a really important part of their brand for some reason so they have to serve every meal with that soggy carrot salad. But like I'm just here to tell you as a brand like enthusiast, you don't have to put that slop on the plate. You don't.

Damn. But you do need to put the pretzel rod. Oh, that's the other thing. One thing they're known for, like if you order a salad, they always serve it. It makes the salad really tolerable. They serve it with like a really warm pretzel roll. And sometimes they're not warm these days, which is just unacceptable. And now it's just very much

like a lottery. You get a salad, there might be a pretzel roll, there might not be. Like it needs to be more uniform. And the pretzel rolls could use a few more flakes of salt. Salt, yes. And maybe like they could offer a dipping sauce on the side like a little mustard oh I really feel and like maybe it would behoove them to have like an appetizer with like warm pretzel rolls with like cheese like my mom's beer cheese now we're getting like fat okay yeah it is supposed to be like a healthy it's a healthy restaurant so no my mom's beer cheese will not be on the video okay whatever I'm just saying like a little ingenuity wouldn't hurt and I hope that this podcast can be a catalyst for somebody high up at 40 carats. A catalyst for change. We're nothing if not a

catalyst for change. And you know what we'd be looking for? A carrot list for change. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I actually feel really good that we got that off our chests. I agree. I feel like we need to get into the stories. Yeah. Because that's what we're here to do. You're 100% right. It is what we're here to do. And like, Turdy's under the weather, so we can't be like taking all of her time. We need her to rest and recover. I mean, like, as always, the toast does have restorative properties. Like, I'm just feeling, I'm feeling good. Well, that's the thing about feeling not sick, but when you're feeling a little run or under the weather, sometimes festering in it is like the worst thing you can do.

And you've got to kind of like get up and urge your body into moving forward. Like yesterday, I definitely needed to be in bed all day. Like that was... Rest is key. You're right. Maybe like a little walk today. Yeah, just like don't overwork yourself but sometimes you need to like coerce your body into feeling better but only like not if you're

well and truly sick like do you give a fever or anything no it's giving i'm like i'm giving no i'm like downplaying the way i'm explaining it they're gonna be like girl like why didn't hannah burner come on the podcast? Like, you're fine. And like, I'm not. No, she's not. Like, you guys, I can attest because I know that she would never ask me to do a third episode in a week. Like, if she really didn't need my assistance. Thank you, Jackie.

I stand with Turdy. And I would never, ever electively eat soup. So true. And she, you guys, I saw her soup. She didn't even eat the noodles. I know. Was that crazy? Like the court? But was it the Ozempic? Oh, you know what? What day is it today? Wednesday. So it's due day. It's do or die day. And I was thinking, I'm like, well, taking my Ozempic make me feel worse or better. I wasn't chancing it though. I took it. Oh my God.

You're funny. But also you haven't had those like physical side effects of Ozempic like others. No. And I don't feel nauseous. I haven't like thrown up or anything. Yeah. Is it just so liberating that we can just talk about Ozempic in everyday life? Yeah. I think I thought it would feel like a little bit more liberating.

I just now I'm very conscious of like not being annoying. Yeah. Well that's just every day. Every day we have to be conscious of that. I know. But every time I do talk about it like I am you know being painted as you know a murderer of diabetics which is just of course inaccurate and unfair. Are you?

I haven't seen that. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What are they saying? Especially like on the – anytime I post like a Reels or a TikTok they're like you're so disgusting. Hmm. anytime I post like a reels or a tiktok they're like you're so disgusting but like do your research or as I would say educate yourself once again I stand with turdy as one should anyone who doesn't stand with turdy is more often than not on the wrong side of history it's so true history I can't speak for truity I can't speak for truity history stands

with turdy no the more things change the the more Trudy stays the same. That's true. Look, you're still in your apartment. Shut up. Oh, you know what? I haven't updated everyone. What's going on? Because I said I would devote my maternity leave to finding a new apartment.

And I did. You did. Oh, my God. She saw so many apartments. My husband kept meeting up with her to, like, see apartments. Zach was so helpful, honestly. I'm grateful. He loves that. And he's very good at like design like furniture placement you know. Yeah. I saw a bunch. There were a few contenders. I actually ended up putting an offer in on three of them. Two of the offers were brutally rebuffed.

One of them was accepted and I was like in the process of like applying formally when I realized like I didn't even like the apartment and so I'm back to square one I did end up extending my current lease a little bit so I could have a little bit more time so I now have like another month um which was very gracious of my landlord to do for me I'm still looking I'm still looking and I like I'm so dead set on seeing the snow by Christmas and what's upsetting is the apartment that I did get accepted for had great see the snow by Christmas energy. Like the windows and the views were beautiful, wide open spaces. But it wasn't me, you know?

I do know. So is there a chance that you don't move at all? I mean, there's always a chance of anything, you know? But no, like I'm committed I really am and I do want to move it's like really important to me I check every day okay but you know the median the average rate in New York City for rent is $5,500 that's crazy if that's up like two and a half thousand dollars from like a couple years ago. Like it's crazy. The market is insane.

Like you would die if you saw some of the apartments that I've seen. I'm like I literally want to look the broker in the face and be like, are you kidding? But then literally I get an email the next day, it's gone. Like people are actually paying these prices. It's so crazy. No, I don't know what to do, Jax. Like I don't know what to do.

Florida's calling. Oh, girl, get out of here. Just think about it. I'll set up some tours while you're here. No, I mean, I'll move in with you. I'm not buying my own house. That's, like, so unnecessary. You have a house.

Olivia has a house. I have to get my own house to live in? Like, my God, just let me live with you. You could live with me. By the way. Honestly? Why not? No, and your house is kind of set up with like two really big bedrooms yeah really two masters no the thing is like i would do it in an actual second

we could never get the boys to agree they'd be like this is so stupid because they don't understand sisterhood and you know what they would say they would say screw sisterhood that is that is the only hurdle because you would do it. No, of course. And then I wouldn't even need to have my own kids because I'd have yours. Like, it's everything. It honestly would solve all your problems. I'm obsessed.

And, like, all of our, like, expenses would be split. Joint. We go to work every day upstairs. Yeah. Jackie, we should really, like like put together a PowerPoint presentation. And then by the way, like think of like – think of our line of work. Like we would be like those sisters who live together. Like even people who don't know us, they'd be like, yeah, they're sisters and they live together and they have a podcast.

Like it's really good. You should listen. Like it's crazy that they live together. And they're married and they live together. Right, right, right. Like and they share kids. Like that would be our thing yeah i think it would be really good for business also not to get crazy but like if we are

doubling up and i'm happy to have you move in with me and i would you know foot the bill of course for no reason just because you don't want to pay but we could like look into getting a bigger house why we would have to go elsewhere let's's build an extension. Oh, yeah. We could build an extension. But no, like, now we're, like, you know, we could work with two budgets put together.

We could see what's out there. We should definitely, this is so compelling, like, we should just definitely think about making, like, some sort of PowerPoint presentation. And I don't,

like, why? Why isn't it okay for, like, married adults to live with, like, their close friends or family? Like, why? I don't know. I don't know. And it shouldn't. Like why? Why isn't it okay for like married adults to live with like their close friends or family? Like why? I don't know. I don't know.

And it shouldn't have to be like that much to convince Ben like he could golf every day. Yeah. Honestly, I think I'd have a harder time convincing him to plunge into Florida over living with my sister. Like he's known me so long at this point. Like it's not the craziest thing I've ever suggested. Right. But the plunging into Florida part, it's crazy that that's so hard for him to

ever accept because golf yeah I mean but you know Ben's also very family oriented his family lives here like I understand but I do think maybe there's something there and I'd like I'd say we'd come back you know to New York once a month but where would you stay would you keep your apartment no that defies the purpose. Well, if you're letting me live for free, yeah, I'd keep my apartment. But that really defies the purpose because then why don't you just come on down right now?

And then we never have to tell our husbands. It's just a really long stay of turdies. Right, right, right. You know what? We'll flush out this idea. We'll keep working through it. Yeah, but I love where your head's at. Me too.

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Thank you so much. Our first story is a little VMAs recap. The VMAs, MTV's VMAs, were on last night, and there were some big headlines. There were some big stars in the mix. Yes, there were. Yeah, so first we had Justin Timberlake and Megan Thee Stallion looking like they were fighting backstage but a

source says there was zero fight so this video like went viral very quickly where it looks like Megan Thee Stallion and Justin Timberlake it really did look like that that they were fighting yeah like they were having words and Joey Fatone like is kind of you know and Justin like ran Justin ran away which is so Justin yeah so in the crowded area backstage Megan is seen getting glam while members of NSYNC pass Justin smiling leans in to say something to her and Megan responds pointing her finger emphatically so it looked like it could be an argument but the source said there was zero fight he had said it's so nice to meet you and she said no no this don't count this don't count we got to meet proper it was got to meet proper. It was very cute, the source says.

So I guess she was just being emphatic about the fact that like we need to meet. She's apparently a really big fan of Justin. And she posted a video with him after, I think maybe like an after party, like laughing about it. So I believe that there is no beef. But when I was watching, I just like hate Justin Timberlake. Yeah, so I just assume everyone else does too. Yeah, no, and I assume the worst in him. And honestly, I feel like last night was actually like a really interesting indication of where

Justin Timberlake is in his life. Because I feel like at his peak, he got the Video Vanguard Award. Like he, there was a time where people were like, he's the next Michael Jackson. Like he was so, and he, NSYNC wasn't even the shit on his shoe to him. Like he was so, thought he was so much better than them and I feel like he's definitely had like a fall from grace not only did he just like have kind of a flop era with his music but also you know those pictures of him cheating on his wife like he's just and and then the Britney stuff and the every documentary paints him as a monster so

he's definitely in his humble era and him getting back together with NSYNC was a clear indicator of that. Not only does he not think he's too good, he could probably use that sort of, you know, undying love from America. And I thought it was interesting. Yeah, so he reunited with NSYNC to present Taylor with her award. And she was freaking out. I guess she was a big NSYNC fan. She should hang out with Olivia.

Oh, I literally can't with you and if you don't know what Jackie's talking about feel free to read my book it's literally so good and you will hear about how diabolically insane Jackie and Olivia were growing up about NSYNC and Backstreet Boys to the point where like it tore our family apart and Jackie clearly still holds some resentment to Olivia for being like queen of NSYNC because Jackie was queen of Backstreet Boys yeah no just like if you're gonna be into NSYNC like you should talk to Olivia because she's into NSYNC she is like it's always so crazy when Taylor like geeks out over people who are just like that was kind of a not her theme that was a major theme of the night because the vmas does this

thing where there's like a audience camera the whole time you can watch feeds on mtv.com of like what selena gomez is doing while olivia rodrigo is performing and it's actually very interesting um so we got a lot of content we saw you know her taylor swift like singing her heart out to demi lovato which i find so interesting. Taylor and I, we're similar ages. We all grew up in the Demi Lovato. We all know, if I ever did that, I think I'd have a heart attack. It's just so crazy to me because comparatively, question mark. But then also, there were so many conflicting dynamics at the VMAs that I was obsessed with. Of course, Olivia Rodrigo and Taylor Swift.

Like, Olivia Rodrigo can do as many interviews as she wants saying there's no beef. Like, you will never convince me that there's not. There is. No, there is beef because they were so obsessed with each other on top of each other. And now it's radio silence. Not only radio silence. Like, Sabrina Carpenter is like a Taylor Swift buddy-buddy. She was sitting next to her all night.

So then this Sabrina Carpenter-Ol Olivia Rodrigo dynamic I found very interesting. Then Selena was there which we love. We feel like we never see Selena at award shows like this. But now she has her single. I am single. Right.

Single soon. So she's got to do the circuit. But like her and Demi Lovato Demetria like there's beef there. I just felt like there were so many like I wasn't expecting

so many actual like A-listers to show up. Yeah. And I always get surprised that Taylor like pretty much always goes to the VMAs. And I feel like she really like wouldn't have to. But then I was thinking this morning like I feel like she – and she appeared to have such a great time last night. The fan cameras were like staring at her the whole time. She was getting drunk. She was drinking red wine. She was drinking vodka soda. She was dancing. Like she to have such a great time last night the fan cameras were like staring at her the whole time she was getting drunk she was drinking red wine she was drinking

vodka soda she was dancing like she was really having a good time and I feel like she's doing like everything to replace her former memories of the VMAs like with Kanye and that's why she goes every year and when you think of it through that lens like I kind of understand um but yes it is shocking for her to like geek out over people who are like meh. Yeah. I feel like she goes to like certain award shows that might seem like oh not somewhere she would go but because she might have like a good relationship with MTV just like with iHeartRadio and she knows it's going to be like a good environment for her

and she knows what to expect. Yeah and she's like protected. And it's also just about like what she has going on at the time. Like sometimes when she's in you know quiet mode you won't see her anywhere. But like you still got to do. Yeah, you have to do the circuit, you know. The work.

The industry. She has to put in the work. It's the industry. It's the industry. What other headlines came out about? So she swept the VMAs making history with the most video of the year wins. Cool. Anything else that you wanted

to mention? Yeah. I feel like when I watch the VMAs I really realize like how little music I actually listen to you know. Like obviously I knew like all the pop singers but there's so many other genres and like I just feel it kind of makes me feel old. Were there a lot that you didn't know? Like so many K-pop bands I didn't even heard of there was like a category of K-pop I had not heard except for Blackpink I had not heard of one of the other bands like and the one who won I hadn't even heard of. Oh wow. Yeah it's just like it's a young girl's game. It is a young girl's game. is a young girl's game it's tough yeah i didn't kelsey ballerini kelsey ballerini was there making um headlines she came with chase it was her birthday they looked really cute matching in red and she gave a gorgeous performance of penthouse

and they were making out on the carpet yeah no like they're obsessed with each other like it's nice but there was also rumors that they had broken up oh I didn't hear that I did don't ask me where oh my god Jackie are you like at the center of the rumor mill um yeah I am I'm really deep into it I hadn't heard that they had broken up but they haven't so that's good no they haven't going strong happy birthday Kelsey it was actually like a really fabulous award show um like and so many like actually like actual stars showed up which I just found shocking I feel like Selena like never goes to stuff like that so it was fabulous to see her she also got memed like a thousand times she like was just like kind of had like a mug on the whole time and then she posted on her Instagram story like

I'm tired of being a meme so like I kept my face like that the whole time so you guys like couldn't make and of course they still did that's unfortunate you just want to be able to live so I like the idea of like these fan cameras but it's really like being in a fishbowl and then you think like they're acting the whole time because they know they're being watched and no one wants to have like the wrong reaction or they do want to go viral so they have a reaction it's just so funny like when taylor shows up somewhere like it becomes taylor swift's bat mitzvah you know yeah let's be like such a nice like benefit of her life yeah i watched you're so not invited to my bat mitzvah oh what did you think i thought it was really cute right yeah and it's really cute that she's

his daughter so is the other daughter yeah no i know but it's really cute that she's his daughter. So is the other daughter. Yeah. No, I know. But it's a movie. It's about Stacey. And the friend's mom. I know. Is his wife.

Is his wife. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure you knew. Yeah. It was really, it was really cute. It was funny. It was funny. And I liked it.

And like parts of it were so accurate. Yeah. Me and Ben were like really dying over Sarah Sherman, like the conservative female rabbi. Obsessed. No, like that person actually exists like i can't explain it it was the way she dressed like it was perfection yeah i actually googled her because i she looked so familiar but i didn't know who she was and i thought she was so good and i was like who is this person and she's new to snl she's new girly but she's making splashes. She's really good. Yeah it was cute. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Me too. Okay next story even though what I wanted to say was the VMAs were like

canceled a few months ago because of the. No. No the other ones were. That was movie and TV awards which are SAG. Right because then I was like how are we having an award show music totally different who hosted last night that's a good question like was there a host was it nikki minaj no i don't know the world may never know but actually they don't have any writers if there's no host and there's no writers then they're not violating the strike. Right. So actually, I don't think there was a host.

Okay. So now I could segue into one of two stories. And both segues would be really good. But. Oh, wait. Also, they're about the strike, correct? Strike adjacent. Okay.

I saw some people saying, like, enough with the strike news. And I just want to know, does everyone feel that way? Because, like, I'm down to stop talking about it. I don't particularly care. Well, I could go like enough with the strike news when it's like small updates about what Fran said versus Bob. But you know what? Now you've chosen my segue for me because Drew Barrymore is facing some backlash for resuming her show amid the strike. She has been dropped as the National Book Awards host after her talk

show resumed the strike. So Drew Barrymore has been dropped as the host of the upcoming National Book Awards ceremony a day after her talk show taped its first episode since the Hollywood strike began. Quote, the National Book Awards is an evening dedicated to celebrating the power of literature and the incomparable contributions of writers to our culture, the National Book Foundation said in a statement. In light of the announcement that Drew Barrymore will resume production, the National Book Foundation has rescinded Miss Barrymore's invitation to host the 74th National Book Awards ceremony.

Oh my God, reading that statement, I just have so many thoughts. No, it's like really Karen-y. First thought, I'm available to host the National Book Awards. And I think that i would be an amazing host for the national book awards i agree however the following things i might say might get my invitation rescinded from because this is like loser behavior from like nobody asked the book awards to get major loser behavior who even knew she was hosting them? She keeps getting all these hosting gigs taken away from her. No wonder she has to go back to her show. And the most controversial thing that I'll say that really I will not be hosting the National Book Awards is

that I don't necessarily disagree with Drew Barrymore's decision to go back to her show and to resume production. Well the interesting thing is is that she is compliant. This is not considered crossing the picket line because she will not have writers writing on her show. She will not have celebrities coming on to promote projects. Like she's following the rules. So for her to be punished when you could disagree with her but in reality she is not crossing the picket line. For the books to get involved I don't know how the books apply here, first of all. Like, objection, relevance. No, because it's like writers. We support writers.

Oh, like book writers. Okay. Yeah, writing. I see the connection. Okay. I see the connection. I take that back. But she's really not breaking any rules. I think you could argue the merits, you know, ethically if you're in SAG. You could go on and on about what you would do. But at the end of the day, she made a decision decision I would love to know her true reasoning for making the decision because

she doesn't seem like the type of person to intentionally do something controversial like no she's not a brave person like that you know no so she's an industry girly she plays by the rules and she's very well liked and she doesn't really, you know, she doesn't need to step outside. She doesn't make trouble nor does she really need to. She's got like her, her brand is being lovable. So. Right. I think she has.

So this is out of character. Or it's in character and she has, you know, good, decent reasons for resuming her show. Like there are a lot of other, there are a lot of people who work on her show who won't be working. Like there, there's just so much that goes into it and that. that's my question that that's my question so it's possible like she wants you know pas camera operators hair and makeup like she wants people to get back to work and so they can feed their families but if they're in sag how are they working like i don't get it talk shows quote unquote talk shows actually i, I think I know the

answer to my own question. Talk shows are their own category. It's kind of similar to Unscripted a little bit, where they are technically not picketing, but I think a lot of shows are standing in solidarity, but they aren't required to picket. So if you wanted to bring your show back and bring back everyone except the writers, you could start getting all of your employees paid. And I have to imagine that's why she's doing it. Or, you know, the network said, if you don't do your show, you're not, you're going to lose your show. And it's not just about her,

but it is about all those people who are employed. Like, I think she has probably good reasons. I choose to give people the benefit of the doubt and not just think that she's wanting to be selfish and bring her show back. Also, this article notes that she employs at least three writers who are members of the Writers Guild,

and those writers are picketing outside CBS. So it's not her entire staff. And I just think the National Book Awards is wrong for this. I think they're wrong for this. Interesting. I agree, I think they're wrong for this. Interesting. I agree, I think. Yeah. Like, I feel like Drew Barrymore did not do a good job of explaining.

She released a statement. Yeah. And I felt like her statement was a whole bunch of bullshit. Like, we released our show in sensitive times. We're a global atrophy. Like, I don't fucking know. Like, just tell us. Like, what's the reason?

Like, you want people to get paid? I actually respect that immensely. And I think we're at a point in the strike now where, like, it's gone on for so long. And it's really, really affecting people's abilities to, like, keep, you know, food on the table for their families. And SAG is doing their best. And I know a lot of people have donated a lot of money. But there's, like, 100,000 people in SAG. And most of them are not rich.

So now it's at the point where like they really do need to strike a deal. Because there's power, of course, in striking. But at some point, like people are going to get desperate and start taking non-unit. They have to work. Right. Right. That's what I was thinking when we were talking on Monday when you were saying it's going to go on until January.

How can it go on until January for everyone? For everyone. Right. Right. I don't know. So I feel like we might start to see more and more people who are kind of on the fringe of the strike because also that's the other thing. It's like that's like Jessica Chastain by the way. The lines of the strike are a little blurry in terms of like there's the clear thing like clear intentions of the strike but then there's other people who are like not doing stuff in support of the strike but not necessarily because it would be crossing the picket line so I feel like some of those people on the on the fringe or some of those projects might start to

resume because they will have to no and and I think like Drew Barrymore is just kind of like a trailblazer in in that actually it would be Jessica Chastain because she like a few days before was like starting drama with the Venice Film Festival. But it is interesting to see like huge players like Jessica Chastain and Drew Barrymore doing what they think is best. Yeah. And it's important to know neither one of them have technically crossed the picket line. People are just mad at them. Yeah.

People don't agree with what they're doing even though what they're doing is completely in compliance it's not it's not scab what's the word it's not scab it's not scab it's just like not necessarily in the most solidarity with the strike right but that's more of like everybody has to have i nobody i everyone has to have their reasons right we got their reasons just like drew just like drew also these are two people who very much play the hollywood game they're not right maverick controversial no so they've got their reasons and i'm sure they make a lot of sense and they're just doing a poor job of explaining themselves drew barrymore definitely did a poor job. But that's so Drew.

She doesn't talk in specifics. No, she's so... We launch our show in sensitive times. We've got a lot of love. Right. We have stories to tell. That's so Drew. So Drew.

And one thing about Drew, Drew is gonna Drew. Drew be Drewbin. Drew be Drewbin. Drew be Drewbin. I had one more thing to say about, oh, not about the strike, but it just took my mind there. Did you guys talk about Aaron Rodgers yesterday? We did. I'm in shock.

Like, I'm, that just sucks. No, no, it's so Jets. One thing about the Jets, the Jets going to be Jetson. Like, it's the most Jets thing ever. Like, the loseriest team in the NFL finally gets a fighting fucking chance in hell. Day one, minute one, over. Obsessed. It's so New York.

It's so New York. It's so New York. And it's really funny, except for the fact that, like, Aaron is extremely injured. Of course. And, you know, won't be able to play. But he will be getting his $45 million. Don't worry. I know.

But you know Aaron. No, he's not like a corner cutter. No, and he's not a money grabber. I think he's in it for the love of the sport. Perhaps, yeah. Right? We really don't know him that well. No, but the vibe I get from him.

That's fair. Because he was with Shailene. Right. And if you're with Shailene you can't be in it for the money it's so true but i'm like rafu ashlema aaron i just like that no but like you don't understand like like honestly there's nothing to say except it sucks no it's literally the most depressing thing ever especially like the first game it was on 9-11 he ran out oh my god zach show me the video american flag it was like new york 9-11 flag america like it was honestly i watched it i

got a little teary i'm like oh my new york is back like five minutes later dead on the field like dead literally it's so it's so jets like you couldn't have written a more New York Jets tale if you tried yeah I just I felt bad about that it's definitely something to feel bad about do you think Aaron like hates the guy who tackled him it's an amazing question actually like no because I think it was like a totally legal tackle but that's like the field was slippery because it think it was like a totally legal tackle but the field was slippery because it was raining was it was raining and like Aaron's just kind of it's like a little older you know maybe you can't withstand those types of tackles I don't know I or you know the tackle just he came for his Achilles his Achilles heel do you think Aaron Rodgers is like in physical therapy right

now listening to State of Grace because Because you know he loves Taylor Swift. Yes, I do. I can actually see him like – this is how I see it going down. Kelly Teller, wife of Miles, good friend of Aaron, texts him and being like, I can't even imagine how difficult this time is for you. I'm thinking of you. I think this song would make you feel better. And she just sends him a Spotify link to State of Grace.

And he's listening to it during physical therapy, getting his stretches. And he's, wow, this is a really great empowering song. And then the bridge comes. You're my Achilles heel. And he knew all along why Kelly sent him that song. And it brings a tear to his eye. And he finds the courage. The courage.

To heal in record time. Getting back on the field next week. Not next week. the maybe sometime this season I feel like the Achilles is like a career-ending injury it's not a good one and I can't imagine and that's why Taylor said you're my Achilles heel yeah no because it kind of like takes down the whole body but it also supports the whole body it's that's the point of the Achilles heel goes both ways um but I think it would also be really hard to like be at the doctor's office or like in physical therapy and having to describe how about your heel without and having to say the words my Achilles heel without singing it if you know that song you cannot say the word Achilles heel without singing like doc I'm feeling a lot better

but my Achilles heel still really hurts so true so he's struggling with that too breaking out into song no and by the way that is something I've you know historically struggled with and if Aaron needs a shoulder to cry on you know a mic sing into, I'm always here for him. Because, you know, us New York girlies got to stick together. Totally. Rafałaszlema, Aaron. Rafałaszlema. Rafałaszlema. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story that's brought to you by Modern Fertility. Think back to sex ed for a moment. You probably learned all about how to prevent pregnancy, but what about how to plan for it?

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We've got to start making moves. Oh my God, we really do. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift have been rumored to be dating yesterday. And, you know, in the same day that the rumors give it, the rumors taken away because a source says that Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are not officially dating. ET has reached out to both Taylor and Travis's reps to comment. They have not yet commented. But there are rumors circulating that they are spending time together. So we need to assess the rumors.

I want to just put out there, like, I don't think these rumors are true. Agreed. For a multitude of reasons. Like, he came out a little too thirsty, a little too publicly. Like, that's not Taylor's way of dating. Like, she's's just not like that so I don't think these are true for that reason also in his literal most recent podcast episode he's wearing a John Mayer tour t-shirt if he had been quietly seeing Taylor Swift that's the last thing someone would do unless like maybe he didn't know I don't know but no I think that they're not dating just like for different reasons but I

still also think they're not dating like first of all I just don't think that Travis Kelsey has the sensitivity to like put together the John Mayer t-shirt thing like I think they could have been dating and he could be wearing that t-shirt and just not realized he seems like that sort of guy the reason why I don't think they're dating is because I don't think that they would be compatible or like each other or they are each other's type on their fate on its face right like the main reason I actually didn't believe the rumor is because it's quite possibly too good to be true like Taylor Swift is dating someone who's actually handsome no like no no somebody who's like big and buff and American no we know who she likes like she likes like Maddie Healy.

She likes like skinny Joe Alwyn, like Brit. That's not her type. It's quite literally too good to be true. Trust and believe. I would love absolutely nothing more. I didn't even get excited about this for one second. Like it's so fraudulent. No, it's so fraudulent.

It's so crazy how she could really date anyone that she wanted. She could literally date like if she wanted to like Prince Prince William like hypothetically if you were single you mean yeah yeah yeah no she could there's no man too famous or too handsome for her she is the most famous woman in the world and she is breathtakingly beautiful yeah and it's like she could get a date with anyone what happens after that date and if they want to go on a second one with her that's you know she has to figure that out but like she could call up anyone in the world and get a date and i just don't think that it would be travis kelsey which is i can't relate to that no i can't relate um but it's not gonna be him honestly i ship but you know what else i really ship hmm taylor and j Jason Kelsey. Why do you keep putting her with

married men, Turdy? Like do you not support women? Because it's a fun hypothetical game. It's a fun hypothetical game. I'm having fun. You're having fun breaking up families. I'm having fun being a homewrecker. That's cool. Who do I see Taylor with? That's the hard part about this game is that it's actually very difficult to visualize her with someone. The hard part about this game is that it's actually very difficult to visualize her with someone the hard part about this game let me tell you the truth is having the brain span to think of everyone that you're trying to think of you know I like forget everyone who's like single and eligible like my brain goes blank when I try and think about eligible men of Hollywood. I do have my list though. She's never, Joe Manganiello. No, he's too big.

Yeah, she's never gone for an athletic type. She goes for actors and singers who tend to be thinner, honestly. Okay, Claudia. Josh Groban. I mean, like, let me just say, let me just say, that couldn't happen because things that good and that perfect don't happen to people like us like it's true it is perfect therefore it could never be yeah also i'm on my list i need to take chris evans off you do there's a few people who are like in relationships right

now but they're not leaving like Tom Brady did you put Joe and Sophie on the list oh my god no I didn't that's a and I just want to go on the record and say like I don't ship Taylor Swift and Joe Jonas like everyone's like they're both single I don't care yeah I agree but I'm adding him what about Jeremy Allen White and Taylor Swift? There were rumors that he might be seeing Selena, which, you know, the girlies don't girly like that. Selener, you mean? Yeah.

Okay. Okay. And also Jeremy Allen White is seeing someone. Cool. Like he's been spotted out with like the same girl, like making out on Runyon canyon a few times oh that's real there i mean he's not married so you don't have to take him off the list but then you're not going to consider him right right because he's not married right right right

right no i don't know who the right man for taylor is what about aaron rogers even though again he's an athlete but he likes her music. Wait, that's an amazing call. And I don't think that Taylor and Shailene are so dissimilar. But see, here's the thing. The last time Taylor dated someone was Maddie Healy. And I do feel like a big part of their breakup were people being, like, triggered because he's, like, kind of, you know, a free talker. Like, he just says what's on his mind. And Aaron Rodgers is kind of you know a free talker like he just says what's

on his mind and Aaron Rodgers is kind of like that too he's very like America I think he's like you know has some strong opinions on some hot topics and I feel like Taylor is not in the business of doing that again like getting dragged into like you know hot button issues because the person she's dating like has you know some some hot takes on hot topics is a free thinker and has some hot topics yeah okay fine except I do well like refuse to believe that that's why but they broke up because that would just be like incredibly fucking losery that like she let her personal life like she's really into this guy and she's gonna actually like let let you know public perception affect

her life I don't think that's the case me neither but I can't imagine that was very fun no or maybe I don't know maybe she likes a bit of danger living on the edge yeah edge adjacent I just want to say I really like her and Aaron Rodgers me Me too. But like she travels so much. It's hard to date an athlete. They travel a lot. Not anymore. True. He just got the whole year off.

He'll be in New York. Thanks to his Achilles heel. And that's the song he would walk down the aisle to at the wedding because it was his Achilles heel that brought him the love of his life. And do you think that

she should sing him down the aisle? I know you're against that in general but if it was Taylor. I'm still against it. Who could sing her song? Me. Turdy. Me.

Turdy's tunes. Wait, what's that from? Me. Leigh Leigh Blonde, of course, when she gets Professor Callahan's internship. Thank you. Thank you. And then he says, screw sisterhood. How dare he? How dare he?

How dare he? Okay. We need to move on to our next story, which will take two seconds. I like how you're like attacking me like I'm the one holding us back. I'm not attacking you. I'm attacking the show. And I'm attacking myself, honestly. It's a self-loathing sort of thing.

Jackie, it's not worth it. Yeah. But this story will be brief. Dancing with the stars cast announced okay season 32 wow all good things at some point must come to an end but it's not good anymore it's not going to be now because it's back on abc oh and disney plus like it's more platformed than ever and these are the stars that will be dancing we heard about ariana maddox and yesterday you guys talked about jamie lynn spears and charity lawson the bachelorette were already announced now we also have mauricio umansky real

housewives of beverly hills star and husband slash ex-husband of Kyle Richards, singer Jason Mraz, actress Allison Hannigan, Mira Sorvino, NFL player... Oh, Romy. Romy. NFL player Adrian Peterson, Brady Bunch star Barry Williams, supermodel Tyson Beckford, and Harry Jowsey, Lele Pons, and Matt Walsh.

The only person of extreme interest here to me is Mauricio Umansky. I don't think we've ever had a house husband on before. Right. I would imagine Mauricio is like far too busy being like actually successful in business to be on a show like this. Like I find this shocking. I find it shocking. Not the idea of him being on Dancing with the Stars. I find this shocking I find it shocking not the idea of

him being on Dancing with the Stars I think that's a cute idea I agree he's a busy businessman but maybe I don't know he pushed all his calls till next month um but what's shocking is that how much like front-facing interviews he's going to be having to be doing at the weirdest time in his life when he probably doesn't want to be speaking on stuff so why would you put yourself in the lion's den where people are just going to be asking you questions about your relationship all the time like maybe do dancing with the stars next year or maybe have done it five years ago like I just think it's really weird that he would choose to do it now because he's going to have to be talking about what's going on in his life every single week yeah like he's

throwing himself in the center of the drama. Right. They've been trying to avoid it. So I think that's weird. But also. The fact that he's a businessman. And doing the show. Don't forget that he has his other show.

And so now like. Doing stuff like Dancing with the Stars. Is just part of his J-O-B. That's true. I forgot that he's like a dual reality star. He also has a Netflix show. Which is so crazy. Yeah.

I do not feel compelled to watch but that's not or different or out of the ordinary from any other season of dancing with the stars um wish everyone the best there isn't like a clear maybe it's lele pons who you think would win like there's usually a clear winner where it's like someone with a lot of social media followers and who can like already kind of dance yeah does Lele dance though or does she do comedy she does comedy but she's like a young fit active person she's Latina so she has like the beat you know yeah you know who I feel like she could probably win I feel like Harry Jowsey could do well too well the bar for like a man to do well on the show is so incredibly low yeah but I agree or maybe Ariana Maddox but I agree there's not someone who you know has been training in dance their whole life

Heather Morrison from Glee Charlie D'Amelio right right Charlie D'Amelio. Or even like a gymnast. Remember Laurie Hernandez? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's not a clear winner. No. And you know what? Let's just make a prediction just so we can look back on this when someone wins. Read me the list one more time. Oh, wow.

Okay. Mauricio, Jason Mraz, Allison Hannigan, Mira Sorvino, Adrian Peterson, Barry Williams, Tyson Beckford, Harry Jowsey, Lele Pons, Matt Walls, Xochito Gomez, Ariana Maddox, Charity Lawson, Jamie Lynn Spears. I'm going to say Lele Pons. I like that for you. She has like tens of millions of followers. I'm going to say I don't know.

Maybe Charity Lawson. Okay. They love a Bachelorette winning. They do. But the Bachelorette brand like doesn't have the pull it used

to have like back when Hannah Brown and Caitlyn. But just wait until the Golden Bachelor. It's going to change everything. It's gonna change everything. Did it start yet? I don't think so but you saw Matt James's mom is on it. I did see that and I forgot that I saw that but it's beautiful. So cute. So cute. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. It's a little TV news because the trailer for Kardashian season four has dropped.

And the trailer is trailer-ing because it looks really fucking good. And in the clip, Kourtney and Kim are on the phone in what looks to be a heated conversation. The sisters are in the midst of an explosive argument. And Kim asks, are you happy? You're a different person. You hate us us we're just all talking about it then courtney responds while choking back tears saying to kim you're just a witch and i hate you not the witch that's like so much crazier than bitch yeah which the the trailer does look good it also appears that they're like you know altering their turning turnaround time a little bit more um it feels a little current and i think that the the trailer does look good it also appears that they're like you know altering their turn

turnaround time a little bit more um it feels a little current and I think that they kind of split their last season like I think what they're filming now is us when we're watching the last episode no I don't think so I think the reason why this feels more current because it's like more behind the scenes stuff that they teased where it's like we don't know when this happened. Right. Because last season ended at Christmas. I'm sure they like took a little break and then this is probably like January, February. Whereas we watched their season in May.

Oh. But Kourtney's pregnant. Oh, right. She announced her pregnancy when? In like May? So yeah's pregnant. So. Oh right. She announced her pregnancy when? In like May? So yeah maybe. Maybe. Or maybe that's the end of the season you know.

Right. Right. Well it still looks good. But it always looks good. Yeah it does always look good. They do a really good job of teasing stuff. But that one conversation looks worth the whole show. Yeah no and it is interesting to know like we're still following along that storyline and that's not a storyline i'm fatigued

of yet like there definitely is weirdness between them and it still feels like when we follow them on social media currently like it does feel like there's a weirdness yeah yeah so courtney's like never with kim she's never like they both are like never promoting each other's shit like there's just a weirdness yeah but it's just like that can't be because the family has to stay strong so we have to work through it everyone it also looks like we get like a decent amount of Kylie yeah Kylie's talking about how she feels more like herself than ever she's in such a good place I love Kylie content I always wish we get more so hopefully she'll be pulling her weight this season I hope so and I mean if she's really feeling so great like

take us along and maybe like some Timothee Timothee Chalamet perhaps perhaps anyways I'm excited premieres September 28th on Hulu pretty soon is pretty soon, so I appreciate it. I feel like the last time. It doesn't feel like a lifetime away. Yeah, I feel like the last time it was months. Months. I'm like, I don't know where I'm going to be then. I can't get excited about stuff like that. Literally. Okay, let's get into Dear Tersters.

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Use code toast. All right. Our dear toasters today are very interesting. We have two submissions and we have an update from the girlies. So first up is a little bit of literature controversy which we've never had before. Hello Jackson Turdy. I recently published a book under a pen name that no one knows about. It's not an overnight bestseller but the book is actually doing pretty well. So far I've kept it completely separate from my personal life with only a handful of people who know about it at all. Not even all of my family knows about it. I was raised very religious with a huge

emphasis on purity culture. The thing is my book is a spicy dark romance featuring a plus-size main character. I feel like I'm just waiting for someone I know personally to recognize me on my author social media and expose everything. I was considering saying what the hell and just announcing the book to everyone to get it over with. But then I told my mother and she cried. Things are a little better now and she's being more supportive,

but it makes me second guess if I want to deal with the judgment of other people knowing. Should I just continue living my Hannah Montana double life? Love, a secret author toaster. Ooh, I feel like whichever path you choose like is, you know, good. This is a good, ultimately a good thing. Like you should be so proud that you wrote a book. You shouldn't be

keeping it a secret based on like shame though, you know, like you should be proud of this. And I think it's best that you like told your mom first and in time, I'm sure she will come around to the idea. It probably just was like a little shocking what because it's like racy yeah so she's very she said grew up like purity culture so I'm assuming you know no sex till marriage you know you don't talk about that kind of thing right so I would give her some time but if if it's important to you to like put it out there with your name and everything and take ownership of it then you should do that but I feel like you went to such lengths to put it behind a pen name and to kind of have a Hannah Montana double life, which I actually think is a nice thing in general, not just because you wrote

a spicy book, but because to have some like delineation and some privacy and that way you could write whatever you want. Because what if, you know, there's other issues with writing a book. What if people think it's about them? What if someone's offended? You know what I mean? So you get to kind of like have the perks of like getting your art out there but protecting your privacy and your peace so I would just like really look inward and decide what do you want do you want to claim ownership of this book or do you want to have the freedom to like have nobody in your business right and then do what feels right to you because you're not doing anything wrong you know you're not hurting anyone wrong, you know? You're not hurting anyone.

The cool thing is that like romance novels are having like such a resurgence and they're so popular and I think you'd be surprised like probably some of your religious girly swirly friends are like out here reading smut. Like it's kind of this thing that used to I really feel like there's a whole episode on Friends about like Rachel's reading a smut book and it's like so crazy like it really has been destigmatized not to the point where it's like totally to the point where it's like completely empowering but it is less so I think Jackie's right like what do you want do you want to be proud and like be able to like post on your with your face I have to imagine marketing a book is very difficult when you can't use your real name or make videos so but there's also a lot of freedom

afforded with that so like if that's what you want you just have to decide what you want Jackie's totally right there's no bad option here yeah but once the cat's out of the bag you can't put it back in so just consider that just consider that yeah I like the idea of the pen name it it leaves a lot of mystery you can write whatever you want yeah the thing is when you come out you can never go back if you're if you're private like you can always come out right if it's like really you know after years you're like desperate to come out then also there's all this build up so i don't i also don't think you need to make a decision today. Yeah. But how cool.

Send us a copy. Yeah. Oh, send one to Turdy. Turdy Tales. She'll read it for Dixie. Turdy Tales. There's no bad decision here. You really, like, neither one of us can answer this for you.

It's just like, what do you want? Follow your heart. You get what you want. And this winter break, you want Turdy. I mean, every winter break and spring, summer, and fall. So true. Okay. Hey, girlies, I need your help. I need to decide if I'm being crazy or if I have grounds.

My boyfriend of five years, forever PJom, has gone away to Europe to travel for over two months. I couldn't go because of work. We have a joint spending account that we use for groceries, bills, etc. We live and have a mortgage together. He told me that he was surprised I was still using the joint account for groceries and household tings while he was away because he was using his personal expenses to travel. He even said, quote, so that means I'm paying for half of your food that I'm not eating? Am I crazy for getting upset that he thinks I should fend for myself while he decided to go away and travel?

Or am I being dramatic? Is this a hill I'm willing to die on? Duh. It's giving cheapskate. Like, let your girl eat. Home is home. Like, home is home. Why do my habits have to change because you decided to gallivant around Europe for two months?

And yes, technically, like if we're getting extremely mathematical, Why do my habits have to change? Because you decided to gallivant around Europe for two months. And yes, technically, like if we're getting extremely mathematical. Yeah, you're paying for your food, so I'll pay for my food. But like, hello, like it's called chivalry and just like let me eat. And also if you didn't have a conversation. It's not even chivalry. Like she's still home. Yeah, no.

And if there wasn't a conversation before about how let's start use like use our personal at this time which i think would be kind of extreme like and unnecessary if there wasn't a conversation the fact that he would expect you to just like go and use your personal is it's just like rude and unnecessary sorry plus like he's gone home home is home and you know what like yes if we were to whittle it down, go back and forth with this guy, like, sure. Do you have a point? Yeah, I guess. Do I literally care?

No, bitch. I'm home. You're traveling. Like, that's your fucking problem. I'm not changing. My ways. Home is home. Home is home.

Like, home tings are home tings. Yeah, no, I'm not changing the credit card on my Instacart account. Adding a new card. No, I'm not doing that. I have one thing to say home is home yeah that's a little you know small like that's small small agreed it's getting small it's getting home is home is small especially because they're together five years they have a mortgage like they have a very it's not like she's been out like pounding the joint account yeah no she's she's trying to eat and it's not even like she's going out to restaurants to eat like she's buying groceries

also like what if some she said household things paper towels what if some of those groceries are going to still be there when he gets home and he's going to eat a big roll of toilet paper yeah but what but the few rolls that she used while he wasn't there maybe she should pay for just those venmo and start recording how many rolls she used like that's what i'm saying it's just small like small you want to get in the nitty-gritty no you don't yeah because we'll go there yeah so then she should cordon off all the groceries that she bought by the time he gets home and he can't go in that section of the fridge also are we going to talk about how he's going away for months yeah that's a lot two months in europe yeah like clearly he's not you know broke because you can't go to europe for two months if you don't have any

money so money's not really a factor for him on his big, you know, gallivanting around town Europe. So calm down. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. If he's away, he should want you to be in every comfort. Not like fending for yourself, hunting and gathering your own food.

Literally making your own toilet paper so so all this to say you have grounds oh you're not crazy grounds granted and fight harder just keep using the joint yeah no and you know what get yourself a little something nice and if he has a really big problem with it he should come home yeah we could talk about it at home, Jeremy. I don't have long-distance minutes. Can't talk right now. CTRN. TTYL. TTYL.

Our third and final Dear Toasters is a submission. It was actually a really hot-button one. A girl had written in a few weeks ago that she and her husband were expecting their first child. They tried for a year, so they were really excited. And they were talking about names, and her husband let her know that he wanted to name the baby after his high school girlfriend slash first love love who tragically passed away their senior year while the girl understood the sentiment she did not want her to name that and his mom said just like settle with a middle name like it's weird but do what you got to do here she wrote in see

the thing is there's always more to the story jacks ready. Ready? Mm-hmm. Hello, Jackson Turd. Congrats on your new baby boy, and welcome back. We've missed you. Speaking of babies, I've got an update for you ladies. I was a girl whose husband wanted to name their first baby girl after his first love who passed away while they were in high school. After speaking to him countless times about it, he finally opened up and told me one of his biggest secrets. His high school girlfriend was actually pregnant when she was killed.

They were the only ones that knew. Oh my god, that gave me chills. I know. doodadoo our baby girl's name is Margaret Eliza she'll be called Maggie for short I can't wait to meet her in a few weeks oh my god that gave me chills I know see the thing is there's always more to the story like sometimes people are not like saying wacky things for no reason like right it's so true I think Eliza for Elizabeth is so beautiful I mean maybe her name started with an m whatever it is I that literally gave me chills when you read the name. Wrapped up with a bow on top. See, the thing is, communication is never a bad route to take, ladies. Maggie.

Maggie. Margaret Eliza. But they're calling her Maggie. Yes, I love the name Maggie. You do. I call her Margaret Maggie. I call her Margaret Fish Maggie. I love the name Maggie.

Love it. Wow, what a great way to end the show. I'm so happy for you. Totally. All's well that ends well. Period. Exclamation point. Exclamation point. And that's our show.

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