The Toast - Eating Potatoes and Doody: Tuesday, March 10th, 2026

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and neighbor show the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody's having a parjolicious, definitious week this far. It's only Tuesday. It's only Tuesday. So it's too soon to call. Let's just, you know, let that sink in, you know?

Yeah, but I think the potential for parageness is on the horizon. The potential is definitely there. I'm thinking a lot about the horizon because I did something crazy last night. Thinking a lot about the horizon. You watch the sunset? No, crazier. What? I finished interstellar.

That is crazy. Actually, when I turned on my TV last night, I said I wonder if she's watching interstellar. So your 10 years late interstellar recap is... Starts now. It's now. Did you ever see it? No, I don't even know what movie we're talking about. I was hoping that you had because I have some questions.

about the ending. First of all, when it ended... Don't spoil it, by the way. No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. When it ended, I realized I just watched a Christopher Nolan film. Oh, I don't think I knew that. Yeah, I think that was my first one. You didn't see Oppenheimer? I didn't see Oppenheimer. Don't let Josh Peck hear that. I had a lot going on during Barbinheimer. At the time, yeah, right. I saw Oppenheimer and you would like it. Like, it's such a swirly biography. Yeah, like a historical fiction. The commies. That is, that area is my concentration. Yeah. So I should,

watch Oppenheimer. Maybe now I will now that I've put into color. You're familiar with Nolan's work. Um, so I thought it was great. It's so funny to me that Timothy's favorite movie is one that he's in. And he acts like he was a background actor. He's not. He's in like the first 40 minutes. Oh. And then, you know, as they age the characters, you know who he ages out into your least favorite actor. Mark Ruffalo? Casey Affleck. Is he my least favorite actor? Like, is he my least favorite actor? Is he the lobster? Right. Oh, I don't know. Because one thing I mean, like I don't know who Casey Affleck is other than the fact that he has some like really serious allegations. And I think he's Ben Affleck's brother, cousin.

What about the brother? So I just want to say like I'm definitely not a fan of Casey Affleck, but I don't think about him. I'm sort of ambivalent. And so if you thought that that age jump was good, young daughter. You do something. Don't spoil it. I'll watch it. I need to just tell you this.

You're not to watch it because this is in the opening scene. His daughter is played by Renezme. Yeah, I was wondering what happened to Renez may after her. prolific performance. She's in a lot of stuff. Is she? Yeah, she was also in like the nutcracker. She's in a lot of stuff.

And do you know who Renezme becomes? Esme? No. That would be good. Jessica Chastain. Perfect. If you see it, you see it.

They did a really, really good job. The casting's really on point. Anne Hathaway's in it. Really? Jamie from Yellowstone. Well, that was a jump scare. I hate that guy. He's a good astronaut.

Oh, I hate that. So all in all, like, rate the movie. Oh, I thought it was really great, like a really good sell movie. If we're like on the good read scale, it's a five. I just have questions about the end. I didn't fully understand. Not that it was like men for me not to understand, but just like scientifically, wait, what just happened. Do you know what?

I'll make a commitment in like one week to try and watch Interstellar so we can have an in-depth, posthumous review. Okay. I feel like Ben would like it. Yeah, Ben is always wanting to watch movies. Movies are just a little too long for me. but in this case I'll make an exception. You can make it a two night affair,

part one and two. To me, that's so crazy. You should do it the way I did it before Part one and part two. And then intermission. The intermission was at a perfect time. Also, I feel like there was a period like five, ten years ago

where like everyone was making outer space movies. Of course, Martian, yeah. And I didn't see any of the good ones. I just saw the one with Brad Pitt that did nothing and went nowhere. I know. What's the one with Sandra Bullock? and I want to say George Clooney.

They did an astronaut movie? Yeah. I saw Ad Astra and you know what that tracks because it sounds like Sad Astra. Can you look up movie about space with Sandra Bullock? Gravity. Yeah, I think like they're, they get disconnected from their space station and they're just sort of floating for like an eternity. Wow. Yeah.

Wow, you really are disgusting. Yeah. You're right. There was a sort of obsession. So no, I didn't see Interstellar at the time. I didn't see The Martian. And then what's the, I did see Ad Astra. Jennifer Lawrence one. Passengers, I saw that too. If it was a bad one, I saw it. If it was a good one, I'll watch it now. I feel like that tracks. You are often sort of attracted to like the bad movies and TV shows.

Yeah. No. Because you see in them what others don't see. It's subjective, you know. And it's not, it's not, there's no rhyme or reason. Like, Brad Astra, Brad Pitt, goes to space, who'd have thunk, but it just didn't, it wasn't gravity, it wasn't schmavity, and it wasn't marshal. I've seen bits of the Martian where he's making potatoes and eating his duty.

Okay, way to spoil it. And what's funny is, he plays a similar character in this movie. Has everyone to discuss that? I don't know, I guess it's like when they made two Cinderella's at one time. Yeah, no, no, no, literally, like, mad taintment's out there on his own again.

Yeah, in space. He loves kind of like being on his own eating his duty. So I love that for him. I love that for him. I love your duty. I can't believe we've sat here for eight minutes and not talked about our major career milestone that happened this morning. Yeah, major career milestone. Yeah, happy from Matt Damon that he, you know, ate potatoes and his duty, but did he make the Inc. 500 female founders list? No, but we did as, you know, being finally being spotlighted as like the female founders that we are. Today's episode is kind of giving confessions of a female founder because, yes, we are two of the 500 recipients of the Inc.

female founder award. We are two of the 500. Yeah, we might need to replace Dr. Mike Chiodo in the spirit of International Women's Month. Yeah. Put Jackson Turty in this frame. And our 498 fellow honorees. You know what I just realized?

I need a class photo. Oh my God. You know what I just realized? What is this frame giving? Frames. It's like the exact frame. We should paint a pink. But it's just, it's not even like a coincidence.

It's like we like we like. We're attracted to a certain aesthetic. We're attracted to a certain frame. It's so true. So we're just, we stay on brand by being ourselves. And that's why authenticity is key in this business and why we're the female founders. And that's why, like, we will be at the top of our game till the day we die. Chas we shalom, you know, not go on.

I mean, don't jinx it. Awkward. Well, ink found us to be at the top of our game. As the female founders of Spritz, in addition to like all the other. All the other. I forget, like, how many businesses are in our portfolio. And actually, Ben Tech said us this morning about starting another business. Did you say?

I saw. What do you think about it? What do you think about it? Oh, my God. I spoke to my guy. in China. That's what Ben texted us this morning. So I spoke to my guy in China. I didn't get a chance to read the whole thing. I got the gist, but we'll have to get into the deeds. Yeah. That was an interesting concept. We'll have to do, um, I mean, that's what you can expect on a podcast hosted by two

female founders. Yeah. I think this is what Meg and Markle was going for. Lots of as ever drama. I saw. It's in the news. Okay. We'll talk about it today. We also have dear toasters, our weekly advice segment. So in case you were like a girl in need, we might be helping you out at the end of the show today. So stay tuned for that. We might be hurting you. And I'd be hurting you. Let's do like a bit of a town hall on Deer Toaster's submission. So if you ever want to write in, you can email us or you can go to our website. So the email is Deertoasters at gmail.com. And the website is Thetoastpodcast.com.

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But just like for the tea, you know, your girls are curious. So that'll be your Toasters at the end of the episode today. How are the stories? Good. Things in which to discuss. You know what I did this morning? What? Something crazy.

What? Watch the sunset. Crazier. Base time with my sister, Mario. How's Sachi? You know, Satchi was getting some, making some waves on TikTok yesterday. Share. She posted her.

outfit. And you know, Margo's like a very cool girl who works in fashion. And she likes to share her corporate outfits on TikTok, which I think is so interesting that she's like this, you know, influencer who else has a job. And people like hated her outfit yesterday. And they were being so mean to her. Okay. They were being so mean to her. And it was just like, sorry, Margo works in fashion. Like, maybe you guys just don't get it. You know what I mean? Show me. Well, sometimes I feel like they're mean to her when she's wearing, she showed me one where they were being mean to her. And she was wearing a sweater jeans and boots. She's wearing a sweater jeans and boots today. And they didn't like it. And she was like getting

hate comments. And I'm like, Margo, you're a fabulous young thing that lives in New York City. Like, sorry the unemployed slabs on the internet just don't get it. But like, I get it. I get it. She works in fashion. Like, you're not supposed to understand it. At the end of the day, there's nothing to understand.

It's a jeans sweater and sweater. I know. That's controversial to. I love Margot's like corporate. The other time that she showed me the hate she was getting. She was literally wearing skinny jeans tucked into like riding boots and a sweater. Yeah, like normal outfit. I don't get why that's like people are really looking for stuff.

No, it's very high, Mark is very highbrow. The sweater or whatever. Like, okay, so you didn't like someone's sweater? Margo's very highbrow. It's okay if you don't understand it. It's kind of giving that scene. How is she handling the hate? It's kind of giving that scene in the devil wears Prada.

Like Margo is Cirulian and everyone else is just like Andy who picked out that sweater out of a bin picked out by the people in this room. How is she handling the hate? You know, it was a devastating blow. But when I spoke to this morning, her spirit was strong and she didn't get a fuck. Like, one thing about satchie, she's not. going to care. She should do like more. I know because she was like, I'm getting like a lot of followers.

I'm like, well, you should put on something actually heinous. Like, you know, like something actually controversial. Like, yeah. That sparks dialogue. Yeah. You know, like a sweater and shoes. With a swastika. No. Really controversial. Like something avant-garde. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, that's not what I meant. No, you didn't mean that Marga should wear swastika on her arm or red bit or wrote about a yellow star.

No, I didn't. I just meant like something divisive. What's more divisive and asthastica? Okay. Not ideologically. You had to be a little bit more specific. Aesthetically. So yeah, that's what's going on in TikTok. Do you feel like I need to keep you updated?

And what are they saying about us? We are going viral for like our pout thing. Oh, okay. So I made a video about the pout, which is what inspired me bringing it up yesterday. I'm like approaching two million views on that. And then we clipped our pout. And it like really is taking over. It is.

You looked nice on camera. I know. So I need to work on it for sure. But people were very encouraging in the comments. And I think people are really appreciated like, you know, us, pointing it out because like yeah everyone is doing it like Kylie does it too a lot I think if you have if you overline or if you have lip filler like it makes it easier a little bit because it's very top lip forward that I have a big top but you just have big lips so why can't I do it like why so I should

be saying yeah you should be psyched you need to look in a mirror yeah I have to research I think I'm like pushing too much I I'll get there all that to say yeah we are making waves on TikTok. What else is new? Classic us. Classic us. In a classic kind of way. I remember when everyone used to say that? Classic. I feel like Ben kind of says that a lot. It's a good word. It is. There were a couple of like phrases and things we used to say that we're gone too soon. I know you are, but what am I? Oh no. I would say classic is like, you know, in the same kind of like it's giving. I hate it's giving. You know what else I hate?

What would we say before vibes? You know what else I really hate is giving pronouns to like inanimate objects. Like you buy a purse being like, isn't she beautiful? It's like, no. Like I hate that shit. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, that's very like influencer. Yeah.

I mean, she's literally gorgeous and it's like a pencil. You know what I mean? I hate that shit. I don't think I do that. I'm sure I have just because like I get swept up in culture. But like I'm sort of sound of mind enough to. to step back every once in a while and being like, I hate that. Yeah.

When I say people do it, it's so cringe. Yeah. Say less, bestie. Love that. I kind of love that. And you know what? Say more. Do people say that?

No. No, we're only encouraging everyone. We're only putting each other down. Correct. Actually, no, say less is like. Like, I agree with you. Like, you don't even, don't waste your breath. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's actually a nice thing. Yeah. Say more would mean you didn't prove your argument. Right. And like, yeah. Yeah.

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He will be playing. You're kidding. Oh my God. I got sort of blindsided by the Brooks Nader. He will be playing a rookie lifeguard who comes from a family of fire. fighters. The duality of no. Yeah. I just want to say I didn't know that was happening much like Cynthia Rebo because I follow Brooks Nader and I was just sort of like obsessed with that. It was very natar oriented. It was very Nader oriented. Love Brooks Nader getting booked gigs. I mean,

she's so Baywatch. Like it's perfect. However, the Baywatch franchise has sort of been like beated into a pulp. Wasn't there already a show? There was a movie like it's just not working. It was sort of a moment in time. It was lightning a bottle. It was Pamela Anderson. Like just sort of let it be. Yeah. Even the movie that had like The Rock, Zach Ephron. Right. Andrea Dodario. Like, was a flop. I don't know how you can do it better than that. Now, of course, I put Brooks in anything and I will watch it. But I just feel like Baywatch reboots are sort of cursed. Not only are they cursed, but now it's like, it's like losery. Like, you know what I mean? I think of Baywatch and I don't think Fabulous Pamela Anderson. They've quite literally successfully destroyed

the legacy of Baywatch. now I think about all the failed attempts. Yeah, but let me ask you something. Like, if you're someone like Brooks and, like, you want to get into the industry in, like, an acting capacity, you're making the jump from, like, modeling to acting, you're going to turn this down. You get cast on the new Fox show, which is a reboot of a very popular show. Like, do you turn it down because you feel like the Baywatch vibes are off?

Like, no. No, but, like, I'm telling you the show won't be successful, and it will have nothing to do with Brooks Nader. No, it will be... It'll just be another Baywatch project, like, in the garbage can. Yeah, but I don't want to, like, rain on Brooks'est's... And I'm so happy for it. And I know she like works really hard.

Like so I think she'll really commit to this role. I think we're going to start seeing her like, you know, dressing, giving Pamela Anderson vibes. Like I love it. I love this for Brooks. Taking that out of it as like Brooks's number one fan just like zooming out as like pop culture commentator. Like this sucks.

Enough. Enough. Bewat reboot. You know what? Like put Brooks Nader in the next Christopher Nolan movie. Okay? I said it. Send Brooks Nader to space.

Yes. Living on Mars. Innovating suit. Eating potatoes. What would happen if you like went to. space in a bathing suit. Like you were still wearing the head gear, but like your skin was in space. Why do they cover their whole body?

You'd probably be... Like burned? Yeah. Oh, it's also probably freezing cold. Yeah. Or incredibly hot depends. Right. We're in space.

So here's who else is in the cast. Let me know if you know anyone. She will star opposite Stephen Amel, who plays the lead role of Hobby Buchanan. Do you have pictures of these people? No. Just let me know if you hear it. If any of these names sound familiar. I know, but I'm more of like a face person.

Stephen Amel. You're a visual person. How are we spelling Amel? We're spelling Stephen with a P. Oh, okay. Amel. A-M-E-L-O. Canadian actor, Stephen Amel.

Is this her new man? Let's see him. Go. Oh, my God. Oh, he's cute, but I'm quite literally in. He was in suits L.A. I must have missed it. Oh, he's cute for Brooksie.

Yeah. But I need Brooksie to start dating up, like not Randos. Who's next? Jessica Belkin. Sounds so familiar. Jessica Belkin. Oh, my God. She's gorgeous.

Let me see. Oh, I know why we know her name. Wait, hold on. She was just announced as, you know, the L Woods prequel on Prime? She's L. She's literally insanely gorgeous. Oh, okay. Oh, I guess everyone in the show was going to be like perfect looking because it's Baywatch.

Okay, Hassee Harrison. That sounds like a name we would make up to like call your son. Another gorgeous unknown. Another gorgeous girl. Thaddeus Lagrone. Okay, Thadius Lagrone. Oh, my, all these people. are like really unknown.

They barely have any photos. He's just like a really hot guy. Yeah. Love it. Is there anyone on this cast who's not like one pound and 17? An original series star David Chokachi who returns as Cody Madison. Yay. David Chokachi.

Brooks will be playing the series regular role of Celine, the sharp-tongued captain of the Zuma Beach life cards. Oh, David Chokachi is like a Rob Lowe looking like old tiny actor. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. While Brooks is excellent at her job, she and Baywatch captain. Hobby Buchanan have a very different approach to saving lives that is a constant source of friction. Never on good terms, their relationship only goes downhill after Hobby brings his daughter, Charlie,

onto his team. Hobby Harrison and Charlie? This show is so jackscoated. So jackscoated. And it becomes clear that their rivalry goes much deeper than lifeguarding. Don't you feel like lifeguarding is sort of like a job of the past? We were just remarking because we went to like a hotel pool and there was a kids pool and there wasn't a I just feel like in these litigious times, like nobody wants to be a lifeguard.

No, it's not. I mean, if you go to the beach, there's still lifeguard. Is there? I haven't seen one. I've been to the beach a lot here. No, there are life cards. I haven't seen one. I don't think it's a job of the past.

I think it's like something like A, I could never. No, A I could never, but I feel like nobody wants to be a life card anymore. Don't you feel like nobody wants to like get the fuck up and work as well. No, I feel like you've just like aged out of knowing life guards. But it'll always be like a right of path. Even when I was younger, like I didn't know. Margo Asherry was a lifeguard. She was.

And, you know, Ben's, like, claim to fame is that he was lifeguard for 30 seconds. And he claims to be, like, still CPR certified. Yeah. But it's like, because Margo stopped lifeguarding, we think, like, the world stopped lifeguarding. No, just because now I'm aware of lifeguards. Like, I'm around kids and pools a lot. And, like, pool safety is so important. So I'm like, where's the life card?

Yeah, I wish there were more lifeguards. I'll agree with you on that point. Yeah. But not that there are no life guards. No, I'm telling you there are no lifeguards. Like, just put that in your brain and now, like, well, maybe this will, like, make people want to be like-garten. Once again, you're not supporting my call.

beauties that we saw on Google Images, I feel like it has a chance. That's really sweet. I feel like it could be like, it could just be like a cultural moment, like when 90210 came back. Right. That was crazy how like popular that reboot was. Right. You know, like maybe they could figure it out.

Yeah. They've got the faces. They've got the names. They've got Hassee Harrison and Charlie. Well, they've got Hassee Harrison. So, like, honestly, I'm sad. I'll watch it. I'm sat for Brooks.

Yeah. They've got Berksie. Congrats, Brad's. Are you right? Oh, they have Noah Beck, too. Correct. Obsessed. Did you ever see he, like, acted in, like, one of these, like, teen dramas, like, Bratz TV

kind of thing? And it was really compelling. Oh, wow. So he has a huge background in acting. Like, for the, right before I read the story up until then, like, I thought it was Noah Centennial. So I was like, he's back. But this is different.

This is Addison's ex-Man. Not Addison. Dixie. Dix. Oh, it's Dix. Oh, he was so cute. And he was in the show. Who was Addison dating Bryce?

Yeah, that was like dark times. She was trying about that. But she was being dry sand. You know Noah Beck because you watch the Dimeleo show. He was such a darling. He was such a good boyfriend. He was like very sound of mind, very grounded for somebody. Like a lot of these TikTokers like really struggled with their fame.

And he was very, he was like a good boyfriend, a stable force in Dixie's life. I really want good things for the show. Okay. And for Noah and Brooksie. Okay. Are they age appropriate? Are they romantic leads in one another? Because she's.

No, it sounds like she's like, with the captain of B. As she should. As she should. And then maybe like Noah and Hassey Harrison, like something like that. Yeah, I could see Noah and Hassee. He's 24, so we'll just back down. She's what, like 29?

Yeah, but like she needs like, she needs more man. In Luanda La Cossner. She needs more man. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Do you think that Brooks and Ater and Alex girl know, know each other? I was thinking about that last night in the shower. Because they're like always popping up at the same places.

I like knew them to be friends. I feel like they would like one another. Well, I feel like they've had the opportunity. So maybe if they're not, it's because they don't. It's not a match. No, I know. I was like, is there beef between them? But Alex is a lot younger than her.

I guess. Right? She's, oh, no, Sally just turned 25. Right, they're 25. I'll always know Alex's age because of Sally. Right. And Brooksie's 29. Yeah.

So that's not that different. I know. But those are four important years. I know, but they're always in the same place. But then they are not like similar. I feel like maybe they don't like each other. Maybe they don't. That's a good call.

Or maybe right now Alex can't pursue. a friendship with one of Tom Brady's ex flangs. Oh, maybe Brooksie doesn't want to pursue a friend. But I think they definitely both, like, compete for men, you know? Like, yeah, they should keep up. They're not sure. They're stronger together. Agreed.

Like, I think Alex should have Brooksie on Hot Mess, like that, um, podcast makeup. Get real with me. Yeah, right, right. Get real with me. Yeah. Now are you ready for our next story? Chaparone is making news as she turns the camera on the paparazzi. So Chaparone is going viral.

she was out in, I want to say Paris. Harris, yeah, it felt French. The cab, like the way the door opened was so French. And they were saying, Chappelle, Chappelle, yeah, yeah, Chappelle, yeah, Chappelle, yeah, Chappelle, when I saw it, I thought it was Dave Chappelle. Because I saw the captions on the video, I'm like, what is Dave Chappelle doing now? And someone was like, I'm actually Team Chappelle here, and I was like, oh, what did Dave Chappelle do? Anyway, singer Chappelle Rhone has absolutely had enough of the paparazzi.

She turned the camera on her pursuers as she went out to dinner Sunday night with a crowd of photographers trailing her in Paris. So she got in the video, she got out of the car with her phone, like literally David Dobrick, Chappelle. And there's paparazzi like flanking both sides of the sidewalk as she goes into the restaurant. And so she starts like filming like, these are the guys that I've kept telling him to leave me alone. There was one guy in particular who was like asking for an autograph. He didn't look like papar. No, he was like one of those resellers. You know they like get your autograph. They try to get you to sign in Blue Sharpie. You're never supposed to sign a blue sharp because they could take your signature and put it on a t-shirt and sell it. Pretend it's real.

So she was largely aiming it at this one fellow. And there was another one in the back was hiding his face and she just wanted to put them all on blast. Yeah. And I just want to say, like, I feel good about the fact. Like, Chappell Rhone doesn't like being famous. And like, that's fine with me. I don't really want to see or talk about her either. So, like, I'm not participating.

I don't stream her music. I'm not propping her up. So, like, maybe we should all just stop because she doesn't like it. So, you know, I should say there's a million girls who die for that job. Okay? Like, come resell money. signature okay yeah and like I'm very much of in agreement like so much of being a celebrity is terrible like the paparazzi like it's really it's awful and like for a while I was like championing her like

boundaries and she oversees paparazzi seem like way wet nuttier in there's different and some overseas seem better yeah and every celebrity like has their moment just people just through a water bottle like I actually love that stuff but like it's the only thing with her so it's like quit yeah like you don't like being famous and it's like well yes you'll have to give up like your songwriting fine and quit. Like you hate it so much. It's just like annoying now. I usually like it when a celebrity throws it back in the face of the media like Sleigh, Mama Sle. But it's like the old, I don't even hear her new music anymore. I just see a new

video of her yelling at someone. But I just don't understand why it's so hard for her to get out of the house like without being bombarded by paparazzi. No, and also like she wears a lot of costumes. Like if she really just pairs it down and just had her hair like in a back bun and she looks like a normal girl and she didn't roll up to the restaurant in a SUV and clear the way. She's at like Paris fashion week or whatever. Maybe she's in Milan. Like she like if you just want to if you just wanted to like release music and be famous for that like you don't have to leave your house and do other stuff.

Like you're going to a media circus. Yeah. That is fashion week where like photographers are just like teaming the street. So you can you and your boundaries like you can also put up your own and like stop putting yourself in these situations. Yeah. A lot of celebrities go to the Grammys and don't walk the red carpet. Like yeah. Protect chap self. You're like highly intimidated. The expectation that every person on the planet in this crazy industry mind you is going to resists. respect your boundaries to the endth degree. Like, girl, grow the fuck up. That's not happening.

So why do you start protecting chap's self? I just feel like there are ways to get around it. And I don't know why she doesn't utilize them. Like Kylie and Timothy, like, lived in New York. We never saw a picture of them. You just put on like a baseball cap and go about your business. Like, stop going to things like this. This isn't that a part of your job.

She's like kind of Montana to me. Like if she took off her wig or just put on one, like, we wouldn't know who she was. Yeah. And also like, one of you like sing your songs and then like go home. This is not a part of your job going to fact. fashion week. You're not a fashionista. You're not a model. Like you're not a designer. You don't have to go to a fashion week. Maybe she would argue that she should be able to do these things like in a in a, in a, well, could have what a shit of the world is an unfair place. So protect yourself. You're all about like

protecting your back. Protect yourself. Protect yourself. Is going to like abide by your invisible rules is absurd. Protect yourself or shut up. Like I actually can't take it anymore. Like shut up. Oh wow. I can't take it. There's a million girls who will kill for that job. Chappelle, Chappelle, Chappelle. Chappelle, Chappelle. I love that new vocal stem. Are you ready for our next story? Dakota Johnson is the new face of Calvin Klein and a sexy shoot. So Dakota Johnson just launched her new Calvin Klein underwear shoot.

It's like a video where Dakota is like talking to Dakota. She's topless. She's fruit some titty. She's bottomless book on scooter. Can I see the pit? The stills. Yeah. It's very sexy.

It's really beautiful. She looks great. I mean, I feel too ways about this. You know, I love Dakota. Okay, tits out on the window. But you were hoping, like, for Carolyn and J.F. Oh, vagina book. Okay, I didn't see that one.

Vigina book. I just want to say, no woman in the world needs a bra like this. I just want to say. Like, it's a, look, it's like a sports bar with cups. It's a sports bra with like a push-up bra inside. Like, quite literally, that was a bra designed by a man. Nobody needs that. I agree.

Here she's not kid, naked again. Oh, this is her nice undies. You do need it if you're shooting a campaign for Calvin Klein. Yeah, I guess. It's a good time to wear it. I love Dakota Johnson, like, Slay Mama. But this does feel like some sort. of response or rebuttal to like the timing is is interesting because of jfk because of jfk junior i think um

like this is supposed to redirect because like capon klein's giving big loser energy is calvin alive yes he is so he's seeing the portrayal of i can't wait for his essay in the new york times oh for sure i mean he had a really bad portrayal it's giving like narcissist egomaniac like not actually the talent caroline was the real talent like it's absurd please i mean i think it's so actually insane and out there. I don't think Calvin Klein is like that at all, actually. Yeah, maybe like bits and bobs are true. Even though. But I think it's good for the hymn that like Darrow wrote her essay. Yeah. Because I mean, it's largely been debunked. And I haven't seen like the bad stuff about him yet, but I think I'd be able to take it with a grain of salt. The TV show, was it a TV show Halston?

Yeah. Also had some like choice words. I maybe like just back in the day when Calvin was ascending like he was an asshole. I mean, that would make sense. No, he was like this magnanimous. is like really. Right. No, he was like the face of American. He put American fashion like on, according to Halston TV show, on the map.

Yeah. So like I would be inseparable too. But I think that these pictures are really iconic of Dakota Johnson. I don't remember the last time he got like a Calvin Klein campaign worth mentioning. I do. Which one? Nick Jonas, like recreating the Mark Wahlberg like crotch grab.

Remember that? That is I feel like the last time I talked about Calvin Klein's. Got it. And they definitely invented this model that Skims is now like, operating at a very high level. So I feel as though in like the marketing celebrity campaign department, they're way behind. And this is a nice start.

They probably could have taken more of the momentum with the show and like maybe leaned in. Maybe Calvin said no. But it's good. It's good. Yeah. It doesn't make me feel the way like Sarah Pigeon for Road made me feel. I don't know. I think Dakota is an interesting choice, not an obvious one.

I think she's like, she looks great. You wouldn't think of her as like sexy. 50 shades? Oh, I guess. People also just really like her. But she was like a nerd. Who realizes she's handsome when she takes off her glasses. Everybody really likes her too.

Yeah, everybody really likes. She's a very positive cue score. When we talk about the Nepo baby conversation, it's like, well, we know you can't act and you literally got a movie franchise that like a million girls would want, having never acted a day in your life. But we're not talking about you. But the body is tea. The body is tea.

People really like her. They love best. Body is tea. She looks amazing. She looks amazing. No, when we have like those privileged Nepo conversation, It's like literally about her, but we don't care, you know? No, no.

That's why it's really, it's different for everyone. You can't just paint with a broad brush when we're talking about nepotism and Ben Platt. I was just saying, but we're always talking about, did you guys see Ben Platt? Or I don't know who posted it, but he was with all of his brothers and his mom. And that was sort of a big deal. He has two brothers, Jonah. Of course, who hosts like the amazing podcast.

And then Henry, who I actually follow weirdly on TikTok. They're all of like amazing singing voices. I don't know if Jonah sings, but Henry has an amazing. He's always doing like riffs and harmonies. I don't know what he does for work. But it was Mark wasn't there. Maybe Mark was taking the picture of the dad. The wife was there.

Yeah, the mom and her three sons, which I was happy for the mom. But I don't know how they all get together. It must be so weird. No, I can't imagine. I mean. Like Jonah definitely hates Ben and Ben hates Jonah. Of course.

And Henry was in the middle. It wasn't like Jonah. Like you could take that picture with like two people who do hate together. But I would have thought that like Mark, like the parents were also disappointed in. Yeah, but that's your son, you know. Ben. I know. I don't know.

It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. It's worse than the Beckhams to me. It is, but like nobody cares. It's our Beckams. It's our Beckham.

Did you see like she had her fashion show, which we know from her documentary is like such a big deal for her. It was Paris. Oh, so it must have just been Paris Fashion Week. Okay. And the whole family was there. And like when she posted for the first time, she posted like a carousel, but the first photo was her whole family being means so much for you guys. To me here, the caption was just like so Nicola-coded.

And it was like all the girlfriends, wives and girlfriends. The wags. Yeah. Beckham Wags. Yeah. Crazy times. Crazy. I really need them to like get back together.

The family. The family. Like I don't care if they don't like each other. Like this is so terrible. What he wrote? I know. The big thing is like we can, you know. No, it's it's Meg's it.

I'm sorry. It's not. Like look at China and Kylie. You know, they all, if the Chinas and the Kardashians can work it out. They barely have worked it out. They've just stopped being in court. worked together. They worked it out.

China's always saying really nice things about them now. And they're not saying nice things about her. They worked it out. It's dreams mom. That's what I mean. Like Victoria says nice things

about Brooklyn, but they're not all. I'm telling you, I believe in love and I believe in reunion. I don't know. I think they've exited. No, they haven't gone too far.

Speaking of Megxit, are you ready for our next story? Is it about Beatrice and Eugeny? No, it's about Megan Markle. Oh, right. But there's drama with Beatrice and Eugeny. I don't know if you saw.

What, I mean, aside from the obvious drama. Well, like, they've always sort of been kept separate from the fact that their dad was Jeffrey Epstein's like number one client. But I was watching this TikTok from like a royal expert. The person who wrote the book on the House of York, which like is about Sarah Fergie and I read. That like things are not looking good for them. They've been dropped as like patrons of their big charities. They've been having like private meetings. Apparently like William and Catherine asked them to submit to a financial audit because I think they took on a lot of like the Shudday.

business handlings of Andrew and Jeffrey and they said no and I think like they're expecting an announcement to be coming in the following weeks in regards to Eugenie and Beatrice and what their future of the royal family looks like. Oh like denouncing like renouncing like the renouncing not renouncing but sort of stepping back you know from their roles or whatever interesting I think an audit is really fair yeah and they would not submit that which doesn't look good because and then oh so um I forgot which one but one of them has her own charity which is now under investigation by like the British Commission of Charities for like spending more money on salaries than like giving back, which is of course never good. And then she was dropped as a patron

of the other one. So stay tuned for that. Yeah. I imagine there's a lot of like drama and they're going to deal with a lot of fallout. Yeah. That's really unfortunate. Yeah. I mean, plenty of charities spend more on. Correct. Like please. That's like the thing. If you go to that like charity website calculator. I mean, they all do. They spend more on like admin than they do on actual charitable. But not the Marks-on-Water Holocaust Education Foundation. Just saying, they would never. They would never. Of which I'm a patron. No. Our next story is about Megan Markle. She has shut down as ever and Netflix has pulled out of as ever. But then I saw a statement that she made saying it was not true. No, so they shut down rumors that she would expand her as ever brand to other

countries after the Netflix partnership ended. So Netflix was a partner as ever because of the show and they were doing the products. They were like an investor. Yeah. And now there's no show. So now they're going out of their products. Oh, I guess like they had all the infrastructure. So if they're not involved like. And there's no show like what's as ever doing. Yeah. Yeah. So amid reports that the Duchess of Sussex was looking to sell her as ever products in Australia, a spokesperson said it's all speculation. So a spokesperson for as ever said, no decisions have been made about when or where international expansion might take place. Entering new markets is a considered process,

but it's something the brand is excited to explore as it continues to grow in this next phase. Watch this space. Is that what they said? That's what they said. They said watch this space. Okay. But her and Harry are traveling to Australia.

God, it's people thought. It was about a sever. I don't think it's about it. So it's not an Azever brand trip to Australia. I don't think so. That's what she needs a brand trip. I would happily go. and like at her Montecito home.

Honestly, Ben needs to go. He's like the number one fan. Guys, he said it was so good. I got sent an apricot jam and you guys know I'm not going to eat that. And I kept it in the fridge. She just sort of as a keepsake. Like, yes, a former princess gave me. And it's gone.

Ben ate the whole thing. And he like posted on his Instagram being like, I've just found this jam in my fridge. It's amazing. I'm like, you found this jam. It was a gift from a princess. Yeah. That's a PR jam.

Yeah. It's actually like not even funny anymore how everything they launched. They like eventually stop her. It's such a mask. And they're like the idea that obviously like as ever's done now they're going to Australia for what they call private business and philanthropic engagements like nothing. Like why would anyone go into business with them? And they're teasing that it's about as ever international expansion. But so what is it about?

They're probably just like going and waving and like wanting to feel special. Right. I think they're really liked in Australia. Oh, that's nice. But like no, you couldn't make it in your first market. So yes, of course. you're expanding internationally. Duh.

I, like, actually, every time we report, I'm like when her podcast ended, there's such a sense of disbelief, right? No, it's a disbelief. Because there's no way, like, not only the admission of failure, but there's no way that again you weren't able to take this project.

And they are like two of the most famous people, not even America, in the world. And not one thing that they have done has been a successful business venture between the jams, the podcast, the TV show. I guess Harry's book was a success. Sure. Yeah, yeah.

His memoir is where he threw his family under the bus. Like, great, okay. It's actually insane the amount of businesses they launch or announce and then eventually don't even launch or if they do, they fail. Like, it's insane. No, it's, yeah. It's shocking. It's unbelievable.

It leaves me in a state of disbelief. Yeah. But we should watch that space. Maybe something major is going to happen. The space of what? Edible Flowers? The space of ass ever. I would love to know how much product they sold.

Yeah. I feel like someone reported on it once. It wasn't. No, remember they were like, we sold out, but it's like, well, you sold out of what, four or four thousand? Yeah. Anyone could sell out of anything if you just make a limited quantity. A small batch.

I wonder, once as ever and with love, Peter out. Oh, wait, what was with love? The show? And then as ever was the horrible. Horrible. No, not even titles. Like, such poor synergy. Like, you have a show where you're featuring the products and the products are

going to be sold and Netflix is a partner of the brand, but also a partner of the show. It should all be called the same thing. Of course. And it should have. be like, you know, loose words. Words. Yeah.

Like, you need strong words as ever. I just want to say Ben is going to be devastated. Well, I think I have an extra jam I can give to him. Oh, okay. The final jam. Quite literally, the final jam. So when all of this peters out, which it seems like they're going to, you know, eventually close down.

Yeah. Slowly. Deactivate the Instagram. But like very slowly. They're still pretending like, watch this way. Right, right. Whenever we close the book on a sever. I wonder what's going to be next?

What do you think? Well, maybe then Harry taps in. You know, I think they both take a year or two where they have to be the breadwinner and the public facing one and then the other one gets a break. Harry is supposed to be releasing two more books. Right. Maybe the next thing would be his book.

But what do you think for Megan? Because I don't think she's ever going to just not try. Yeah, I would have thought that this last jaunt of like the TV show maybe would have been because that's what I personally wanted to see from her. It wasn't good. maybe she'll go back to acting yeah oh but she did oh they do now like option books right meet me at the lake carly fortune um and then we did announce that she was returning to acting

yeah in a book that she's adapting like a you know yeah but like just being producers on a book adaptation like that's not enough for them to live no no no not even that they want fame and front of camera things and to be like spoken about and known like I don't don't think they're just like, oh, we'll just produce movies that we're passionate about. Well, I think that they've, like, sort of burn the bridge with Netflix. Maybe they're going to Hulu. And Hulu does do, like, you know, kind of amazing docu series. Maybe we'll see like a Harry and Megan TV show.

Oh, my God. That would be really lowbrow. Yeah, that would be like Gary Gianetti, the prince. Yeah. Where she's a real housewife, right? Maybe she'll join the real housewives of Italy. That's where we're headed. And I just want to say, down.

And do you have any advice? of like what they should do. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if they keep doing work and projects to make money or to be famous, but you know, they do have money. And so it's easy to make money when you have money. Like start investing in things. Like you can live a quiet life. I think that they need revenue.

I think they live a very expensive life. So part of it is fueled by money. And there are a lot of ways to make money without being famous. I think they're sort of Achilles heel is that they both really want to be very famous. And it's like people who are rich and it's not enough for them. Most people, they say, like, if you want to be rich and it'll solve all your problems. people who it's not enough for are like actually really sick in the head.

And so like this desperation to be famous, I think is what's going to be their downfall. Because they could make money easily in the position that they're in. You know, when you're at that level, you get opportunities here. We need, you know, money. Give me a million dollars.

And then 10 years later, you get $50 million. Like people at that level, you can make money. But I don't think it's about money for them. And that's what I think it's, sorry, it is partially about money. But it's also about being famous. And I mean, they're the most famous couple in the world. So it's not like they lack fame,

but it's like they want to be below. They want like the world to love them and need them. And I feel like with everything that they do, it's getting worse for them. Like if they just stop when they megs it in, they did Oprah and they just like were like these quiet, mysterious celebrities, they would have been the coolest. It would have been very endearing to people too.

Like look, they did leave all of this behind for a quieter life. But now every time they make it worse for themselves, I feel like they feel like, okay, now we have to try something else to like get it back. And everything just makes it worse. And I don't know that there's something that's going to get it back for them other than actually enjoying the privacy that they asked for. Right, right. And being mysterious, a little bit of mystery goes long way.

It would have been very endearing to people if they did give up, you know, this dream life of being a princess to never be seen again. People would really like them. And want to see them and like less is more. And like crave when she goes to an event. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Yeah. So good luck as ever. Our fifth and final story is brought to you by baked by Melissa.

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True. Our fiss and vinyl story, some breakup news. This is a crazy story. Dak Prescott and his lady loves, Sarah Jane Ramos, are heartbroken after calling off their engagement five weeks before their wedding in Italy. On their bachelor, joint bachelor bachelor's party. And they have two kids. Yeah, like what?

What happened on that bachelorette party? I don't know. But Jack Prescott, who's the quarterback of the Cowboys, who's a really big picture in our house. So this news hits us hard. Yeah, how was the family taking it? You know, one day at a time. Right, right. But we're hoping that this is what that's for Dak's self.

But I don't know. This feels like his lady love. I feel like they're going to be in each other's lives because they have kids together. But like they should just be together. Yeah. It's just giving work it out, you know? So they were supposed to get married in one month in Lake Como. Like a party.

You know, the deposit is down. I know. Probably like a million dollars is on the table. Logan Paul had like a celebrity wedding. And he said he spent $4 million. So Dak and Sarah Jane are they both. Nader? Sarah Jane Ramos are both heartbroken that they're not getting married.

Despite previous reports, their rep ads, there wasn't any rockiness in the lead-up and there was no big argument or blow-up. It was a mutual decision. They love their girls and they're committed to raising their children together in the most loving and positive way. It's still shocking for them since this happened so recently. And they ask for privacy while they sort everything out. I'm sorry, what? Like nothing happened?

No, I need to know more. You need to stay together. Yeah, of course, if nothing happened. Or something happened. Something, of course, happened. And you don't just, like, call off your wedding. They've been engaged for a very long time. To your, like, life partner with whom you have two children.

Yeah, a two-year-old and a nine-month-old. Oh, that's really sad. I'm sorry, like, figure it out. Yeah, unless it's giving. Unless it's unforgivable. Yeah, it's giving unforgivable, like cheating, something. Yeah. I don't know.

It's sad. That's really sad. Really sad. Imagine getting married, like, nine months after you gave birth, couldn't quite literally. I am nine. Like I could never be eight. Yeah, it was meant to be 10 months after.

She literally is probably Ruby's age. Yeah, I can never. Wow. Weird. Weird. Weird. We're talking to Deer Toaster's our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I sort of give back to our community, try to help out the Swirlies and neat. Wait, hold on.

This is like the toast version. You have to do the hand, too. Because now I just do this and like people know. Yeah. That's how Jackie sees it. Hey, girlies. You are the best part of my day every day. I need advice on my boyfriend's.

relationship with his mom. I know as boy mommas yourselves, um, how serious this relationship is, but I don't know how to feel. I've always wanted to date someone who has a great relationship with their family because I do. But every time my boyfriend and I get into a disagreement, he goes home to Connecticut to his mom. Mind you, we live together in New Jersey. These aren't blow up fights either. It could just be a little disagreement and he just wants to go home. Kind of weirds me out. And I'm also worried that if we do continue dating, he's going to go home when we argue, what is she going to think of me, his mom? That doesn't happen often. But when it does, I'm really left confused. to help. Do I say something or do I let it go?

That's definitely a red flag. And as a future toxic boy mama, I just want to say, I don't know how I will feel if my adult son, like, isn't adulting, like, is, you know what I mean? I know because we joke that we're toxic boy mama. I think we would be like ashamed.

Yeah, like, I want him to be like a great man, a good husband. And like, I don't, I'm not going to stand in the way of that as much as like I love mama. Like I'm more so like, like, that's really important to me. So I don't endorse like just anyone. and just choosing them or their partner. Agreed. And that's not what's...

That means that we haven't done our jobs. Yeah, it's really true. So this is a red flag. I mean, I wonder what's happening when he's going home, but the fact that he can't even just like hash it out when you have an argument or a disagreement, if he was going anywhere... I was going to say it's like weird that he's going home,

but like the fact that he has to like take time off when you guys just had like a minor disagreement is a red flag and just in terms of like being a good communicator. Yeah. He could be going anywhere, you know? The fact that he's going home, like, I guess it's better than going to a bar. Yeah.

But like it just doesn't bode well for him as a partner, a communicator, a compromiser, like grow up. Yeah. I think you have to have a conversation about this specifically and just like why he like walks away when things get hard. That's not what you're looking for in a partner. And it just, yeah, I hope that he's not going home and then telling everything about you because you're right. The mom will not. Right. She's of course going to take his side.

It's also like his perspective on it. Yeah. But I feel like you seem. mind. I just like want to imagine. And I feel like when anyone ever tells me their story, like I do try really hard to like, see the other side. See the other side just to help that person who's telling me their story like rationalize with them. So I don't think it's like a fade complete that the mom's not going to like you. But this is a kind of immaturity on your boyfriend's part that you guys should try and work on in the open. Yeah, you got to bring it up. Yeah.

Because it doesn't bode well and it can't go on. So bring it up. Conversation. Hello, Swirleys. I love your pod, obviously, and I need some advice. So a couple of months ago, I was away on a girl's trip, and my husband spent the weekend at his best friend's house. No shade, but his best friend lives with his parents. He's pushing 30, so. So he spent the weekend at his best friend's parents' house. What I need help with is what happened on that Saturday. From what I know, they had a sleepover, and woke up and spent the entire day on the couch. Where it gets weird is that they drank three bottles of barefoot muskado, a red, a white, and then a pink, over the course of the day. And where it gets weird or is they shared one glass. Okay, Claudia.

Yeah. Is my husband gay? You know what to say. He doesn't find this weird at all. Is this normal relationship for a guy to have with his friend asking for a friend, love you by? I want to say one thing. Obviously, this is extremely like queer behavior.

However, the fact that, like, he told you about it is the only thing stopping me from saying, you know, those immortal words, your husband is gay. Like, if you had found out about this in secret, it's like case closed. Yeah. But I don't know. People who are like, like, you know, up front about it, like, hiding. And it was in his parents' house. Like, other people are home. Like, just sounds like your husband might not be gay. He might just be weird. Yeah, I don't, the red flag

to me is that he had a sleepover with his male best friend, not in a gay way, but in like an immature way. That friend lives at his parents' house. I guess if you live at your parents' house, it's kind of sweet, right? Because they have like, the mother cooks. And like, right, you're spending time with his family. I feel like that's like a trope where it's like, you go home and you get treat the laundry. Yeah. And the laundry's down and there's a full course meal. Yeah.

So he just wants to like live the life. Yeah. He sounds like a loser, not a straight loser, honestly. Like, why couldn't they have two glasses? The cup thing, yeah. Maybe, like, part of the arrangement of this friend living at his parents' house is like he's responsible for all of his dishes. So he was just sort of minimizing cleanup.

I don't know. But boys are just like weird. Is that the case, then the parginess of going to someone else's parents' house is lost because you're meant to be like taking care of, you know, mama's home cooking. Yeah, I guess you could look at more as the angle of like, He spent time with his friend's family, not like he had a sleepover with his guy best friend. I don't think he's gay, but I don't like think he's cool. Yeah, I don't love this.

I need to understand more like the reasoning for the sleepover. Like she makes the best lasagna. But you didn't even make it such a big deal that he had a sleepover with his adult male friend. Like are people having sleepovers in there? Like I can't remember the last, the last place I slept was your house. Oh, I guess we have sleepovers. Yeah, but that's like out of sheer necessity. Like I need.

No, and like we're like extremely close. Yeah, and we're not gay. Incessual or gay. Yeah. No, no. I'm really not concerned about the gayness to be quite clear because, you know, I like to look for more like beneath the surface gay. It's funny because like when something so obviously. That's what I said last week.

It's a no to you. Yeah, I know. When people are up front, it's the nails thing, you know? Like when people are up front. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. I would just try and get an understanding of why you went to like your friends.

parents how like what's there for you what were the pros right i guess like he was a like you were away all weekend and he didn't want to be alone like if that i get i don't like being alone either but he's a boy yeah agreed all right next step third and final dear jackson claude my birthday was a couple of weeks ago and my boyfriend gave me such a nice and thoughtful card i really teared up reading it now i recently found myself scrolling through my boyfriend's chat history with chat gbt i wouldn't say i was snooping but i was just curious what he asks it was mostly work stuff but i saw that he asked chat to write my birthday card is that fucked up. I've asked chat to help me write thank you notes, but I was super intentional with what I wrote for his birthday, and this just feels kind of icky. What do you think? I'm obviously not

going to tell him that I know, but next time he writes me a card, I'm not going to take it as seriously because he didn't do it himself. What's next? Chat, GBT, BT wedding vows. This is a very dilemma. This is an interesting dilemma. Because it's partially thoughtful that, like, he really wanted to write a nice card, like, knew maybe his own limits and, like, sought out help. But, like, dig deep. Yes, but as someone, I personally have, I'm a deep feeler. I feel things very deep. Yeah. I have a lot of depth. I have a really hard time putting to words how I feel without like sounding like a

cliche. Like a hallmark card. Like when I say like I love you forever. Like that's like everyone says that. But like I mean every word of that. Like how do I convey how I feel like I feel like I. I feel like this honestly like I might do this. I am feeling inspired.

But I do see how it can be insulting. And it's like if you're a genuine person and like you mean every word of that card, I think it's. Yeah. It's a little bit not romantic, but he wanted to put to words how he feels about you. And if he meant every word, I think that means a lot. Yes. And I think like we could look like your perspective on this is going to like is going to matter.

Like yes, you could see it as like phoning in. But most people don't even write cards. I just want to say. And then he like maybe knew his own limits and really wanted it to be nice. I actually think you can look at it as being really thoughtful. Like. And I also just want to know what the prompt was. Was it like write my girlfriend at birth?

they card. Or did he have to write like all of his feelings and say make it sound nice? Yes, exactly. Because that's what I would do. It's like, I want to say that you're the best thing that's ever happened to me. But again, that's such a cliche. But like, what if I meant every word of that? Right. What if Shakespeare like knew my feelings and wrote them? Right. So I kind of appreciate the effort as someone who like struggles to put my verbal, like, like, right feelings on paper. Like I can relate and it doesn't make it less genuine to me. No, change your perspective on this. It's actually sweet now that I've thought it through. Yeah.

Especially if you know the guy, like, yeah, if he's like a good boyfriend and it's very thoughtful, like this actually can be seen as thoughtful. As long as he meant it. Correct. Not just like, oh, I just want to write a card. But who, if you just wanted to write a card with words you didn't mean, you can think of those yourself. I don't think he would go to the effort.

And it's this whole thing of like, you know, fire this off for me. No, she said it was mostly work. Yeah. I think he really just wanted to write you the perfect card. But we do need to be mindful of how we rely on chat. Like we really do. Yeah, but like I find myself slipping sometimes. Whenever I want to write like an email that I find is uncomfortable for me to write,

not that there's anything crazy, but I'm just trying to convey something and I want it to sound like not awkward. I ask chat for help. And you know what? In my 33 years of life, I've not been able to do it on my own. So like, thanks chat. Like I wasn't improving. Correct. Now I can do it.

I know. I don't know if everybody's using it like in that sort of. I use it in a very earnest manner. Yeah. And I'm going to. There's some nefarious people out there. going to give people the benefit of the doubt that they are too yeah of course well that's your to toaster's thank you to everyone who wrote in and that is also our episode so thank you so much for listening

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