The Toast - Econ 101: Tuesday, March 18th, 2025
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday,
also known as Tuesday.
Speaking of the girl I choose today and every day,
it's Jacqueline Follet.
Hello, Tirday.
How you doing?
I'm doing good, happy Tuesday.
I feel like yesterday was a long one.
Yesterday was an alafi.
The day itself.
That's for sure.
Was an alafi.
So I was hoping today we'd be further through the week,
but we're not.
But we will toil away until we are.
Jackie, don't spend your life waiting.
It's true.
No, we're like wishing away.
I don't wanna spend my life waiting. Yeah, this is life. No, we're like wishing away. I don't wanna spend my life waiting.
Like, yeah, this is life.
No, not spend my life waiting.
To wake up one day and find.
Have you been seeing Carrie Underwood on American Idol?
The reviews are in and they are rave.
No, I haven't been seeing her on American Idol.
Oh, as you know, I'm diving more into the hobbies
and interests of Generation X.
And American Idol definitely is included in that.
And I've just been seeing it on TikTok,
but there are so many viral auditions and people love,
there's like a sound going viral
where this girl, she's like about to sing
and she's like, what do you do?
And she's like, oh, I'm just a stay at home mom.
And Carrie was like, you are not just a stay at home mom.
It's very powerful.
Yeah.
Very empowering.
Yes, yes.
So lots going on with the Gen X community.
Also the Gen X community.
And what's her vibe as a judge?
Like, is she harsh?
Is she sweet?
I feel like she'd be a Paula.
So it's not the American,
it's not your daddy's American Idol, you know?
Like back in the day, there was a ruthless one.
They're all, and they would bring people on
who they knew were terrible singers.
And they would do it to embarrass them.
Now, in the age of bullying and woke-ism,
the fun is over.
We could never have William Hung like we did.
So they bring in people, everyone who can sing,
but they say no to people who are not ready,
who need to work on their breath work or whatever.
There's nobody who's embarrassingly bad or anything.
So it's not as fun.
So there's nobody who's like evil.
Got it.
Okay.
They're all like middle of the road.
It's a softer American Idol.
And me and my fellow generation Xers.
You're not about that.
Yeah, we miss the days of like brutality, cruelty, bullying.
Exactly. Yeah, that's just me and my gang. of like brutality, cruelty, bullying, shaman.
Yeah, that's just me and my gang.
We live to rock, we rock to live.
A brief update from my generation.
They wanted me to speak on behalf of us,
like letting you know specifically.
You are seriously the Hilaria Baldwin of ages.
I know I'm the Hilaria Baldwin of everything because I also pretend I'm Latin just like hilarious.
I also pretend I'm a different.
You are correct.
I'm trans Latin.
I'm transgenerational X.
Like transgenerational.
It's really crazy.
Yeah.
Like I am.
What else do they want to tell me?
I see a community and I want to be a part of it.
You know, I don't think that's,
I think it actually speaks to my yearning for like to be a part of something.
Like the inclusivity.
So what Generation X wanted me to tell you yesterday
is you were wrong.
They do not stan Tom Cruise.
Like that's not their boy.
Like they know he's a freak.
We know he's weird.
We do not- That's not what I saw.
Oh, that's overwhelmingly what I saw.
Like they wanted you to know, like maybe at one point
in time he was on his way to being what you think he is,
but he's not for my generation.
I don't know, but maybe yours.
I don't think you're in touch with your community.
And I think you need to get back.
You could not be more wrong.
Actually, you could not be more wrong to work guys.
Tell her, tell her.
He be the one doing the Olympics.
If he wasn't this symbol of American stardom.
Oh, oh, I have such a simple answer for this.
Tom Cruise is at the helm of an extremely powerful cult
within Hollywood.
I just wanna say, I haven't watched
all the Scientology documentaries,
so forgive me if I'm off, but they're a bunch of freaks.
Nobody is like, I don't know,
I just feel like they're on the outside.
Within Hollywood, there are a lot of really powerful people
who are a part of it.
So it definitely still carries its weight.
The public, like we have had our eye,
we're going clear as Leah Remini would say,
like we have had our eyes opened,
but within like the confines of like structural Hollywood,
like there's powerful studio execs,
there's powerful actors.
And they do in the documentaries and stuff.
No, and then the powerful actors like are Tom Cruise.
Like he's bringing the power.
He's got the power.
Yeah, I would definitely say they're star power
as like, you know, as the generations move on is weaning.
Like I don't know who the modern Tom Cruise is.
I don't know that there's like a-
Elizabeth Olsen.
No, not Olsen.
Don't, do not disgrace the good name.
Peggy, Peggy Olsen.
Elizabeth Moss.
Yes, she's, I'd say, now like the second most famous
scientist and she's barely famous.
So yes, they're losing-
No, but she gets a lot of work.
So to-
Makes you think.
Yeah, no, it does prove your theory.
Peggy Olsen, they intentionally confused us with that.
Leave Elizabeth Olsen out of this.
She's like a good, I think Christian God-fearing woman.
She's a good woman.
She is a good, she could be a Jew and believe in God.
So that's, I think my POV on the Scientology of it all
and why Tom Cruise like still gets to like be top gun,
mission impossible.
So you think the Scientologists are running the Olympics?
No, but I wouldn't be surprised if like the LA
Olympic Committee had a couple of powerful Scientologists
on it.
Okay.
Not to sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, but.
Okay.
There's crazy, I've heard crazier things.
I've heard crazier rumors.
And I want to wish you a happy one year anniversary.
Of?
Keeping Up With Sports was announced one year ago today.
Wow.
How are you gonna celebrate?
Thank you to Liz Woods on Instagram
for reminding me of that milestone moment.
How are we going to celebrate?
I seriously, like, I wanna call up Caitlin and Lamar
and be like, what the fuck?
At this point, the podcast can't be coming.
It doesn't take you a year to get your podcast
off the ground.
No, and the crazy thing is if you go
to the podcast Instagram page, there is a, there's one video. It doesn't take you a year to get your broadcast off the ground. And the crazy thing is if you go to the podcast
Instagram page, there is a, there's one video.
It's at Keeping Up With Sports.
There's one post on it.
It is a trailer of an episode they clearly filmed.
So there was a pilot.
I just, I wish I had any direct line to anyone
who I could call up and get clarity about this.
You know, we could, if we, if we really wanted to know,
we could ask.
Who?
BD?
Oh, yes.
He would know.
He would know.
You want me to ask?
Yeah, ask him.
He's on LA time, so.
I feel like he wouldn't know, but he's definitely up.
He works hard.
He's not one of those LAs that sleep till noon.
Do you know anything about the Lamar Odom,
Caitlyn Jenner podcast about sports
that never came out, question mark?
Where is it?
What's the status?
What's the status?
Okay, I'll let you guys know.
Okay, yeah, because I'm really getting frustrated.
Like the curiosity is killing me.
I've waited a whole fucking year.
I'm out of patience.
Happy anniversary to you.
Imagine if like Keeping Up With Sports
like became a, whatever, a sports podcast.
Imagine if it became a podcast, okay?
First of all.
Period, yeah.
And like then that's like the sports podcast
my husband listens to.
I think he would like it.
Yeah.
You will love it.
You will love it.
Now I'm really also excited, big major announcement today.
I know I said I wasn't gonna do this,
but I really couldn't help it.
And I've recently decided on a baby name
and I wanna share it with everyone
so that we can hear two four and stop saying it.
The baby's name.
His utero name or this will be his name at birth.
This will be his name.
Okay.
Bowie.
B-O-W-I-E.
The name actually came to me in the most unexpected of ways.
Jackie Sunhary just started calling the baby
in my belly Bowie.
And you know what?
It's really grown on me.
It's really catching on.
We just asked him straight up,
like what should Claudia name the baby in her belly,
the baby boy, and he said, Bowie.
And it was a one-off question,
like a couple of weeks ago.
Ever since then, could I see Bowie?
Where's Bowie's crib?
Bowie, Bowie, Bowie.
Someone showed Charlie, Jackie's other son,
who like barely talks, he only says the word basketball.
He's over here saying Bowie.
Everyone's talking about Bowie,
he's the name on everybody's lips.
It sounds like the name on everybody's lips is gonna to be Bowie Galarosha Esarfer.
I love that.
Begoss.
And I know I said it wasn't going to be one of those girls who announces the name before,
but here I am.
Well, that's like, it's definitely his in utero name.
It does take a while to find one.
You start it and whatever you call it, whatever it is that day.
Jackie was calling it Dio for a while, like Claudio Dio,
which I thought was hilarious.
It just, it didn't catch on.
No, no, no.
And that's, yeah, it works like for me,
but I never felt like this is the ubiquitous name.
Like of course, when I was pregnant with Harry,
his in utero name was Elsie, little camper.
And then when I was pregnant with Charlie,
his utero name was Larry, little Harry.
That one was easy.
It was actually really hard to not then name him Larry.
I grew to love the name so much.
He could have been Lawrence.
Right, and now I'm like seeing him.
I know him pretty well now, that Charlie.
He is such a Larry.
He has like the vibe, the aesthetic,
and like the overall physique
of an older Jewish gentleman named Larry.
Yeah, he would have been a great Larry,
but Zach has an uncle named Larry,
so it wasn't even an option.
So that settled that.
Yeah.
All right, okay, all right.
Otherwise he would have so been Larry.
This is the first and only Bowie in our family.
It's true.
And it's not like Harry. I thought it was a bit inspired.
No, it's like, it's a cool name.
It's also has it like something classic about it.
He doesn't know a Bowie.
That's what I was gonna say.
Does he play with any boys named Bowie?
We've never met a child named Bowie. That's what I was gonna say. Does he play with any boys named Bowie?
We've never met a child named Bowie,
so it's totally original.
It's almost like God sent it to Harry to give to me.
It's a beautiful name.
It's gonna be hard to not name him that in the hospital.
I know.
To be clear, that is not his name.
We're just messing around, but-
But who knows?
Anything can happen.
If we start talking about Bowie,
just know that's who we're talking about.
That's Claudia's child in utero.
Correct. In utero.
Utero.
How is your uterus?
Such a loaded question.
There's a lot going on.
I would think so.
Lots of action.
I woke up at 6 a.m.
I'm so hungry and thirsty.
I would say that's the leading symptom right now.
Ravenous, can't stop drinking water.
Like I don't even crave Diet Coke.
I'm so thirsty for, I feel like I'm in the desert.
Genuine hydration.
Like I know the soda won't help me.
I'm drinking like three Stanleys a day.
And for me, that's insane.
That's insane for anyone.
Oh, is it?
That's a lot, three Stanleys, yeah.
Oh my God, I finished my first Stanley already for the day.
That's like girls who are hitting their water goals.
Oh, girls who are hitting their water goals?
Right here, I cannot stop drinking water.
I'm so hungry, I'm so thirsty,
and everything gives me heartburn.
I had a Crunchwrap Supreme last night.
And?
As good as you remember?
I took a preemptive tum, I knew it was gonna be bad.
But some things in life are just worth it.
And like I woke up with heartburn.
I'm having heartburn regardless,
I might as well be happy with my Cuntrap.
It was so fucking good.
Ben like took, sometimes when I ask him to make me dinner,
he like scraps it together.
He doesn't make it with love.
No, and he's just like, he's feeding his pregnant wife,
just like sort of checking a box.
But because he recently went on the way on that golf trip
and I like really struggled without him,
he's been feeling really bad.
So he took his time making that Cuntrap supreme.
And let me tell you, a little bit of love is the most important ingredient.
I agree.
How many did you have?
One doesn't seem like enough.
No, it was.
And because I had so much water,
I was like so skinny and full.
They're kind of small.
No, not when Ben makes them.
I had a 10 inch shorty.
Oh, mine was at least 12.
Because I measured it,
because the recipe said 10 inch and I got in there.
With a ruler?
With a tape measure.
I also saw Kristin Cavallari made a homemade cron trap
Supreme on TikTok, which is what inspired me.
Cause I had just seen it and then Ben asked me
what I wanted for dinner.
And that's what I said.
I saw it on Reels a few weeks ago
and I was definitely keeping it in the back of my mind.
Yeah.
And she was like wearing like a bra.
Correct.
And she used siesta.
She used siesta.
That's thank you.
That's what I meant.
Siesta.
I use Old El Paso.
Old habits die.
Old El Paso habits die hard.
They won't die.
Like I refuse.
There's nothing wrong with Old El Paso.
I'm actually really happy to say that making the siesta swap was no chance,
like totally tasty.
Other times-
I believe it.
I've used other taco seasoning,
just because like sometimes it comes in a jar
and it's just easier.
I've done, I've gone that route and it's like, oh no.
Oh no.
A lot of times my husband insists
on just like making his own taco seasoning.
He's like that old El Paso is just salt, cumin,
like he thinks he knows what's in it.
Let me tell you what's disgusting.
They put their foot in it.
Yeah, it's like even the worst,
like low level grocery generic brand
is better than whatever my husband's putting together.
Like you don't know what's in there.
And you certainly don't know the proper measurements.
You don't know the proportions.
Yeah, he's obsessed.
He thinks like it's so beneath him to do like.
Well, it kind of is, but like, I'll give old dad a pass.
We are how we are.
I give old dad a pass with a pass,
but when I see like some people like making recipes
and they do like, they pour out a bunch of like seasoning
from a packet, like it definitely brings down
the group average for sure.
I think like as a consumer-
Like do that shit off camera or pour it in a little bowl
and then pour it in. Yes.
If you're making content.
Yeah, but if you're making content and I see that,
like then I know it's a recipe
like I might actually make one day.
To me, it's like a signal.
It's definitely, what do they say these days?
It's a recession indicator,
like when people start using exclusively like packed spices.
But I'm sorry, if I see that in recipe,
I know it's somewhat attainable.
Yeah, no, it definitely is attainable,
but it's just like when we're,
and do it all day in your house,
cause I do it, I'm not saying I don't,
but when we're making content.
It's not aesthetic.
Like, potentionable.
Yeah, like off camera.
In a little glass bowl, okay?
That gets left on the cutting room floor.
Like, Megan would never.
No, and that's actually the interesting thing about Ina,
in the last couple of weeks,
I told you I'm watching a lot of Ina.
She low-key uses like a lot of crap,
like store bought,
but she just puts it in a nice bowl before,
like you never see the packaging.
That's the key.
Yeah, semi homemade.
Did you see Megan's green waffles?
I did, I saw them.
First I saw them in a way,
cause I realized I don't follow her,
so I'm like missing.
What?
I know, and then even when I realized that,
I didn't follow her,
but I'm gonna do it right now before I forget.
So I am missing like things as they happen, and then I gonna do it right now before I forget. So I am missing things as they happen.
And then I see it on Instagram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And people were like-
So it's always through a negative lens.
People were really, always through a negative lens.
People were really clowning her.
A picture of Kate at the helm of whatever she was doing
for St. Patrick's Day in her green wares,
just hearty and royal. Aristocracy. A picture of that and then a wares, like just hargy and royal.
A picture of that and then a picture of the waffle.
Not a fair comparison.
I will say the waffle like did look scary,
but it was just like an Instagram story.
People are so hard on her.
Like she was just making breakfast with her kids
on a Sunday, like being festive.
It was a Monday.
She posted on a Monday, but it was St. Patrick's.
So she was showing what they did on Sunday.
Oh, okay.
That makes it better.
Cause then I watched her story and I saw the green breakfast
and this is not relatable to me.
Why? I feel like you're always getting festive
with your kids food.
Not for breakfast.
Okay, but you know. Not for breakfast.
If you had like unlimited time and like space,
you might be doing that.
I might be. I'll tell you what I am gonna do.
I am gonna do that rainbow fruit plate one day.
It was par G.
And the amount of crudite that she says that her kids eat,
which I believe her because why would she lie about that?
Like because she arranges it in the way that she does.
My kids don't eat crudite.
Maybe they would.
All right, well, let's get on it.
If I arranged it in a rainbow.
Maybe if you put on a flower sprinkle.
Yeah, I actually would try that
cause that's really fun and cute.
We have so much to do today.
So it's seer toasters Tuesday.
And let me tell you the submissions were making me giggle.
It's DTT.
And not to be that girl.
No updates from the one.
We also have stories that I actually picked today
because I was up at the,
tell me what didn't I do this morning?
I was up at the crack of dawn.
I got up, like it was early, I ordered breakfast.
I was like, yeah, let me choose stories.
Let me take some things off my sister's plate.
Like I was so productive.
I made a TikTok.
Like I was so busy.
No, that was really helpful.
Plus I went to mommy and me this morning,
which is why I look like I went to mommy and me this morning.
You were sending like cute class pictures.
So I knew you were busy.
Yeah, so it really worked out.
I'm just sat, I got the stories up.
And there were like good stories too.
Yeah, plenty.
We had an exit.
And you watched White Lotus.
And I watched White Lotus.
So I don't know where that fits into the show.
It might not fit in.
And I really don't have that much to say, so.
Yeah, I mean, I talked about it yesterday.
Do you want to just be like really brief
and talk about it right now?
Yeah, you said like it was a really good episode.
It wasn't, it was like literally over the course
of three hours and they were just like dancing.
I liked it.
I didn't like dislike it, but nothing happened.
Like my boy is still struggling.
I want better for him.
Who's your boy?
My boy, Tom is Ravenel.
Oh yeah, love him.
That was like a really dark scene.
I need things to turn around for him in a major way.
I know, and I really need him to tell his wife,
like I actually think it'll make him feel better.
He's taking on this burden entirely on his own.
She can't handle it.
I know, she's so fucking funny.
She like actually wouldn't be able to handle it.
I understand why he's not telling her.
She can't even handle Piper staying the year here.
In Taiwan.
In Taiwan. In Taiwan.
I actually was liking Saxon,
cause like he doesn't do drugs,
which I like appreciated him taking a strong stance
until he was peer pressured.
There was a big power dynamic shift with the brothers.
Like it was for the first time, the weenie brother.
What's his name?
Lachlan.
Lachlan is like becoming like a big man on campus,
weenie and he's like, he was the one who kissed
the other brother.
I know, I actually think that maybe Saxon didn't take
the pill because he-
I thought he spit it out.
Cause he threw it in his mouth, like let's go
and he could have easily taken it out
because he wasn't acting out of turn
and he didn't even go to like make out with his brother,
but Lachlan did.
And the White Lotus, one of the writers was interviewed
about the incest scene and saying,
that's an important theme.
And I just feel like I could really, really live
without incest.
To me, that actually is where I draw a personal line.
Yeah.
I guess even though Jamie and Cersei is the-
But that's like medieval times.
I know, and I honestly ship them, they were so cute.
Yeah, it's just different when it's a different time.
Because you don't have to deal with it in present.
Yeah, and make sense of it knowing what I know now.
And I think it was maybe more commonplace.
And I'm sorry, if they're suching as soulmates,
those two were perfect for one another.
And also John and Danny. Yeah, those two were perfect for one another. So.
And also like John and Danny.
Yeah, but that was like aunt uncle.
Like it was much more distant.
And teen nephew, Levin.
Correct, correct.
Our favorite kind of Levin.
So yeah, they smooched.
Oh, Leslie Bibb's husband had his big moment.
That's what everybody's talking about with his speech
about like. That was really fucking crazy.
That was really crazy.
And the other actor, Rick,
who was just like listening in disbelief the whole time
was actually making me laugh.
That was like a fun little moment with her husband,
in real life, Leslie Bibb.
But I was really shocked.
Everything that was coming out of his mouth
was even crazier than the sentence before.
Yeah, yeah, it was really crazy.
Everyone's like, give him the Emmy.
I don't think that's how Emmys work.
Okay, calm down.
No, it's not.
And if we're giving an Emmy to one person from this show,
it's Parker Posey.
Oh, for me, it's Thomas Rabanel.
Or Jason Isaacs.
He's really being, the thing is,
he's doing an amazing job at acting,
the role that he was given,
whereas I feel like Parker Posey
is creating this entirely new, I don't know what was on the page.
But what she delivered couldn't be written.
Yeah, and then the women were just being so.
Losers.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, that third friend,
I don't know anyone's fucking name, Thomas Ravenel.
The third friend from Gilded Age,
when she takes her top off,
she is seriously one of the biggest losers.
And that's how I know she's a good actor.
Cause I don't think her as a person,
Carrie, the woman is a loser,
but her fucking character is like actually makes me sad.
No, and the fact that movie star then hooks up with the guy.
So movie star is also making me sad.
And so it's clearly like Leslie-
And she's a bitch.
Yeah, and like Leslie Bim.
She keeps pushing this guy on her friend
and like trying to get her to go for him
when meanwhile she's been working there.
Fucking him.
Yeah.
And Leslie Bim is the only normal one
who like has obviously like a life
she's not running away from at home
because she's like, can you guys leave?
Yeah, no.
Like it's all, we can have fun, we're on vacation.
But like at some point, like there's a fight
starting at the club, these freaks are in our villa, can we go to bed?
We're 40.
Yeah, and I liked that she said no to the shot
and stood on her ground, unlike Saxton.
Yeah, correct.
But yeah, we have a lot to do today,
and really nothing happened, and honestly,
this show is, I don't know what kind of press they have,
but it's really crazy the way people talk about this show
when nothing happens.
Yeah, that's the whole point of the show, but people have definitely made it into a bigger thing, phenomenon like, it's really crazy the way people talk about the show when like nothing happens. Yeah, that's like the whole point of the show,
but people have definitely like made it
into a bigger thing phenomenon than it is.
Like it's a show and it's good and it's bad.
Like it's just a show.
I know the thing about it is like,
it's neither good nor bad because it's nothing.
Right.
It's nothing.
It's nothingness.
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Okay, I will read the deets of this next story slowly so that you can recover. Yeah. Tracy Morgan was taken in a wheelchair
after vomiting outside the Knicks versus Heat game,
not outside, court side at the Knicks versus Heat game
at Madison Square Garden, very different.
Tracy Morgan was taken away in a wheelchair
after vomiting court side at the game last night.
A photo shared on X showed him hunched over
and throwing up in his floor seat
at Madison Square Garden in New York City.
He was being attended to by a concerned friend. There's literally a picture of him throwing up like,
yeah, there's also a video. I can't watch it. And they didn't like blur out the vomit. So I'm just
going to cover it. In a separate video, he's shown wiping his face with a white towel while being
escorted out of the arena by medics. Eyewitnesses claim that he was bleeding from his nose and could
barely stand up. The actor's medical incident reportedly delayed the game in the third quarter
for about 10 minutes.
Reps for him haven't responded to comment, but a spokesperson for MSG told the post,
we hope Tracy feels better soon and we look forward to seeing him back courtside.
Tracy is a lifelong Knicks fan, so all of the Knicks are really rallying around
and sending him well wishes.
He's kind of the face of the Knicks.
Like if you go to a Knicks game,
they're always playing videos of him,
like to get people hyped up to like make more sound.
He's like a lifelong fan
and probably one of the most famous fans.
And I can't lie, when I first saw this,
I was like, lol, this is so Tracy Morgan.
And I definitely thought,
because he had gone on maybe like a year or two ago
on Hoda talking about how he loves Ozempic
and how it's amazing cause he still eats Doritos,
but he's losing weight.
And so I saw this and I'm like,
oh, he got too excited at the Nick game.
He ate a little too much and he threw up.
That's so Ozempic.
But then hearing the details about him being like escorted
out in a wheelchair with a bloody nose,
not being able to stand.
It's obviously like, I think like a much more severe case
and it's actually really sad.
Yeah, I feel like it might have to do with something larger
than just like nausea.
Cause usually you could like maybe make it to the bathroom.
No, even like pregnant women in their first trimester
make trimester, make it to the bathroom.
To be, to really be unable in that moment
to even get up and go to the bathroom like that.
I think it's like a sign of something much more serious.
Yeah he has a history of serious health issues over the years. He has diabetes which is what
put him on ozempic. He went under he got a kidney transplant in 2010 of course he sustained life
threatening injuries from his accident. So I don't know I feel a little worried for Tracy.
I do too. And I feel bad, like is there anything worse
than being sick and you're mad at home
and instead you're being filmed courtside
and the game is delayed 10 minutes?
Like if anybody had thrown up courtside,
cause there's non-famous people who sit courtside,
like it might've been a story like fan throws up,
but it's such a big spectacle
and there's literally a picture and a video of it
because it's Tracy Morgan.
And like that element is obviously smaller
than what's going on with his health, but it's a real,
like you feel humiliated and it makes me really sad.
If Tracy Morgan has no fans, like rip to me.
I love this man as a New Yorker, as a 30 rocker,
and it's just a lover of all things comedy.
And I don't, I feel like I don't,
like Tracy's one of those people who I stand really hard,
but like I never talk about him.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, you're very private.
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
I love him so much.
I'm like really sad.
Yeah, and honestly, it's like not a good week
for sitting courtside.
Maybe you guys should take Jennifer Hudson hitting the face
with the ball at the Knicks game.
That was literally two weeks ago, but okay.
I think that was last week.
It's not a good month.
No way. No way.
No way.
When did we talk about her in common?
Like literally two weeks ago.
Maybe two weeks ago, but maybe last week.
What's today's date?
Today is the 18th.
So I'm saying it's like last Monday to Friday.
Okay, so four days ago she reacted to it, but when did she get hit?
Basketball.
Let's see.
I'm looking through our episodes.
When did we talk about it?
That's a good call.
I need to know like if March 4th.
Okay, so two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
Oh my gosh, time is flying.
Oh no, no, no. Sorry. three weeks ago. Three weeks ago. Oh my gosh, time is flying. Oh no, no, no.
Sorry, two weeks ago, exactly.
My bad.
Time's flying.
Yeah, the Knicks are kind of a mess.
The Knicks are kind of a mess,
but they did win last night.
Was Ben happy?
They beat the Heat.
It was some of the guys on Jaxxers' Clawed.
Literally, we missed it.
We went to bed at nine o'clock.
Oh, and a fun fact about Ben is that he's a huge Knicks fan,
but we recently switched from traditional cable.
We cut our cords like true millennials,
very not Gen X of me.
You should get them back.
And we have YouTube TV and they do not,
you can't get access to MSG network,
which is like the New York local network
that plays all the Knicks games.
Now, if the Knicks game is like a, you know,
against the Lakers, it's broadcast nationally on ESPN,
but for like the everyday games, we can't watch it.
So then I'm like, okay, let's get MSG plus.
Like the stream is 60 bucks it was,
or maybe 30 bucks a month.
It was nuts.
It was like more than my YouTube TV.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
I do well in this life,
but I can't like justify that monthly expense.
And Ben didn't want to pay for it?
We pay as a household.
No, but what if he was like,
I will send you $30 every month,
like it's, I'm covering it.
What if he said that?
Like from his personal pot.
From his personal pot.
I don't think I would let him do something
so financially irresponsible.
Like seriously.
But it's only how many months out of the year?
Pirate it.
Do it on like, you know.
And now you're advocating piracy.
Or go to a bar, go to your friend's house.
Like seriously. Go to a bar.
But no, but then he's not home.
Oh, don't go to a bar.
That's why I feel like he goes to the actual game.
It's the only way for him to see it.
Yeah, it's so true.
So how much is he spending on tickets
versus the $30 a month?
But he would still be spending it on tickets.
And I wanna say, like, when we discovered this issue,
I'm not like such a bitch.
When we discovered that YouTube TV didn't have MSG,
they actually had like a contract negotiation.
Yeah. You know what that happens?
And so at one point you could watch it.
Then like last year, they couldn't reach a deal.
So I'm like, okay, we got MSG+.
He never used it and I canceled it after two months.
So I'm not a total bitch by the way.
Okay, I understand.
And maybe this is like the Gen Xer in me,
but like the older I've get, I've gotten like really cheap.
It's so crazy.
Someone like will borrow Claudia's login for something
and she's like, oh wait, I canceled it.
Let me sign up.
Like the minute you stop watching a show,
it doesn't even occur. I don't can't,
I probably pay for too many things,
but I pay, I wanna have it.
I just want it.
Oh my God, and I'm so mad because I just discovered.
Like every time you wanna watch a show,
you have to re-sign up for whatever platform it is.
Yes, yes, and I just discovered,
because after Theo died, I got rid of all my Theo stuff,
including my Furbo dog camera.
I just discovered, I didn't cancel it.
It's annual, but I just got charged again.
72 bucks, like I'm sorry, that's insane.
Oh my God.
I was really annoyed.
I actually called the American Express
and I fought the charge and you know, I got my money back.
You fought the power.
Yeah, no, I've really become really cheap.
Even though Jackie's bar for cheap
and my bar for cheap are completely different.
We're two different extremes for sure.
So I'm like, obviously about to,
like I'm about to have a child.
And that's, I think what has encouraged me
to like tighten the purse strings a little bit
because it's, there's a lot.
And I have a lot of bills, like doctor's bills, like,
and so yes, I'm open to receiving free gifts
as an influencer, sorry, like I get stuff for free.
And one of the things that I am accepting for free
will be my crib.
So I'm obviously not buying anything yet,
we're a little superstitious,
but I'm looking at the offerings from the gifted companies.
And I'm sending it to Jackie
and she's like sending me back like shit from Pottery Barn.
And I'm like, well, I can't get that for free.
Like, and I want, they're expensive.
She won't buy her son a crib.
Jackie's like, you're so cheap,
you won't buy your son a crib.
You're fucking crazy.
Like, I have all, like, you're just wrong.
That doesn't make me cheap, okay?
No, no, I think it does make you cheap,
but like that's not necessarily wrong.
Like, okay, so you won't buy your son a crib, okay.
So you won't get the one that you want, okay.
Yeah, okay.
I can't get the exact one that I want,
but I could find a really similar one
from the websites that have offered to gift it.
Yeah, okay.
Like I'm fine with that.
But then like they keep,
every time we find one that we like,
it turns out like, oh no.
It's like sold out in that color on that website.
They're not giving away that color.
And it's like, right.
They're only giving,
oh, get the ugliest one.
No, I ended up with a really nice one.
Because you won't just like buy the one that you like.
Yeah, no, I won't.
And if you guys feel like my cheap energy radiating
in the next couple of weeks,
just know like, yes, I'm entering my cheap era.
And I actually blame Rocket Money.
When we did that ad for Rocket Money a couple of weeks ago,
it actually really did inspire me. I did the monthly subscription thing. That's how I found out about Burbo. So you did that ad for Rocket Money a couple of weeks ago, it actually really did inspire me.
I did the monthly subscription thing.
That's how I found out about Burbo.
So you didn't pay for it?
I didn't pay for what?
Rocket Money?
Yes, but it's a worthy expense.
But they really helped me.
I canceled so many.
I was paying for two Kindle Unlimiteds.
Like I didn't even know.
When you have multiple credit cards,
and I blame Brian Kelly, like I have a lot going on.
So they really, and that has kind of like kicked my ass
into gear.
I've become really cheap.
Understood.
Well, I think it's, I think it is good.
And, and please, I don't like the word cheap
because like I'm, I feel like I prefer fiscally responsible.
Like I don't think I could say I'm cheap, you know?
I have a Birkin.
Yeah.
I don't think it's, I think most people,
like we're very different,
but I'm also fiscally responsible.
Like I'm not irresponsible.
I'm not.
You're not fiscally irresponsible,
but I wouldn't say like,
I wouldn't say you lead with fiscal responsibility.
I definitely do.
I take into account all things, including my happiness.
Correct.
But like fiscal responsibility is an umbrella term
that we both could stand under that umbrella.
However, like we're not the same.
Yeah, my umbrella is like bigger.
No, so like there just needs to be a different one.
I understand if you don't want it to be cheap
and I won't label you as that.
I'm not cheap.
But let's go to thesaurus.com, slash cheap.
No, go to thesaurus.com for fiscally responsible.
I think that saying the purse strings are very tight
is fair.
Yeah, the purse strings are tight.
So she's a tight purse stringer.
But in certain eras of my life, you know,
back in my dink era.
Coach, economical.
You are economical.
I am, but I'm not always.
Like I think that I'd really try to let my economics
be reflective of my phase of life.
Like when I was going to St. Barts
and I spared no expense, like that was my dink,
dual income, no kids.
Now my circumstances are changing
and I need my economics to reflect that.
Yeah, I understand.
And accepting a free crib doesn't make you cheap.
No, not on its face, no.
But you guys haven't seen what we've been through.
How many iterations of this when she just won't buy
the crib that she likes.
Yeah.
Or the next one or the next one or the next one.
Yeah, but I ended up last night,
like I decided on a really party one.
Which one?
The one that you liked.
Okay, cool.
Hopefully they'll give it to you.
Please give it to her, you guys.
Like, please.
Let me actually, you guys. Like, please.
Let me actually, you know what?
Let me just take a minute and be like,
everyone please, if she reaches out for free stuff,
like please give it to her for my sake, okay?
Or else I'll be getting Canva edits
of nursery rooms for months.
Yeah, and for the most part, like in my influencer career,
like a huge part of being an influencer
is just like getting free stuff.
Which you also sometimes hate.
It is my least favorite part of this job.
It's so wasteful.
I accept no gifting.
Like when PR comes to my house that I didn't approve,
I actually returned to send her.
I do not like it.
It's just not ever anything that I need.
It's such a waste.
And it's just like a part of this job that I do not like.
That part of my life is over.
And I'm now open to it,
accepting all maternity
and baby-like gifts.
Okay.
And just wait till you get the actual gifts.
You know you can register for stuff
and your friends and family will buy it for you.
Of course I have the Baby List app, don't worry about me.
I know, but like if you're getting everything gifted,
like what's left for us?
So I wasn't gonna make a registry
because I'm like, why would I ask my friends
to buy me stuff?
And then my friend Margo was like,
but people are gonna buy you stuff
because they love you and you've bought people stuff.
So it might as well be things that you want or need.
So make a registry.
Why don't you make a registry
of all the things that you couldn't get?
No, I think I'm gonna make a registry
of things like I would never,
like that are like opulent, you know,
like Ralph Lauren sweater.
I would never buy that for a baby.
I understand.
Yeah.
I'll have to think about what to get you.
So much fresh.
I told you last night what to get me.
So you're good.
Yeah.
You did?
Remember we were looking at my edit
and Harry said, where's the blanket?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
She wants an Hermes blanket, okay.
Yeah, I feel like I'm not a real influencer.
Aren't you glad I'm not cheap?
So true.
You're not a real influencer
if like your nursery doesn't have an Hermes blanket.
Actually the baby blanket is-
But I'm sorry, do you know how much those are?
I'm not buying them.
But it's actually cheap compared to the living room one.
Yes, cause this is the baby one.
Cause yeah, it's much smaller.
It's not cheap, but yeah.
But no, I thought it was $1,200. Wait, maybe it is the baby one. Cause yeah, it's much smaller. It's not cheap, but yeah. But no, I thought it was $1,200.
Wait, maybe it is.
Hold on.
Regardless, I'm not buying it.
So that's definitely something I'm open to receiving.
I understand.
And that's a great gift.
No, the baby one is $1,200.
It's the other one that's like 3000.
Okay, cool.
I'll start saving.
Nuts, nuts.
Are you ready for our next story?
Little white Lotus news
because white Lotus star Patrick
Schwarzenegger strips down to his undies with his fiance Abby Champion for a Skims photo shoot.
So Skims per usual on the Pulse, they have tapped Patrick Schwarzenegger and his model fiance to
model for their wedding shop return. So the two of them are engaged and they are modeling the latest wedding Skivvies for Skims.
Skivvies is a great name for a lingerie company
or like an undergarment company.
Yeah.
I love this.
This is the second time Skims has tapped
like a viral person from White Lotus.
Obviously the two Italian hookers last season
which everybody loved.
My God, did they fall off the face of the earth?
Like what happened to them?
Classic White Lotus.
Classic White Lotus.
Although I think Patrick Schwarzenegger and his fiance
have a little bit more staying power for a lot of reasons.
She's also like a huge model.
She's one of the big faces,
the new faces of Tommy Hilfiger.
So this is like a great get for Skims,
but also for Patty and his girl.
Yeah, yeah.
She's very beautiful.
They're very beautiful. This seems like a no brainer. And then being engaged. No brainer. Is like a, yeah, she's very beautiful. They're very beautiful.
This seems like a no brainer.
And then being engaged.
No brainer.
Is like a, yeah, it's really smart.
And the pictures are pargy.
He's really in just really stellar shape.
Yeah, so is she.
I hope, I wish them lots of love.
He was totally naked in the shoot, which.
Yeah, holding flowers to cover his junk.
Yeah, the junk.
That's also a great name for a men's underwear company.
Junk.
What about dong?
It's a little harsh.
I think you're not seeing the vision.
Skivvies, we should seriously trademark it.
Yeah, we should.
Even though I don't wear skivvies, let me tell you that.
Are you saying you don't wear underwear or you don't wear underwear that would be described as skivvies, let me tell you that. Are you saying you don't wear underwear
or you don't wear underwear
that would be described as Skivvies?
That second one.
And when you think of Skivvies,
are you thinking of like dirty undies with holes in them?
I'm thinking like a little something lace thong.
Oh, oh, that's so funny.
I feel like Skivvies are like skin marked underwear.
With holes in them, Skivvy.
Like old undies.
Well then it certainly shouldn't be a brand.
I think it's just like little baby undies.
Underwear, especially a set consisting
of an undershirt and underpants or just the underpants.
Cute.
Yeah, Skivvys to me like have holes in them.
Okay, well.
That's just, that's what I like. That's your brand association.
That's what I picture in my mind.
Okay, so maybe like we'll not start a brand called Skippies.
Maybe we'll not.
Maybe we'll not.
Are you ready for our next story?
The Claudia Asheri of the Latin world, Hilaria Baldwin,
is defending her natural accent changes
after mean backlash from the whole world.
So.
She's making a lot of news. With their reality reality show in like actually a way that I think trends
positively for the both of them.
Well, I haven't seen the show.
I think the sheer fact that they have a reality show and then that show is also on TLC.
Like I think it's so crazy.
I'm still stuck there.
I'm stuck at the announcement.
It's so shocking when you really think about the breadth of Alec Baldwin's work.
Now, obviously in recent years,
he's had a bit of a fall from grace with Hilaria
and then the Russ shooting,
but he is like one of the biggest actors of our time.
And it's just like really crazy to me that he's on TLC.
I know, but I think it's very humanizing.
Like they have seven kids.
That's crazy.
That's not Hollywood.
It's insane.
And like they have this huge apartment.
I saw a clip, like they have this huge two story apartment
in New York city. And he's like, there's not enough room.
Like I have no space.
And I think people, I think it comes off like.
It is crazy to live in Manhattan with seven kids.
It's crazy.
And in a way that's like kind of endearing, I think.
It's in a way, I don't know that it's so like positive
but it doesn't seem negative.
And I think like even the way she's talking
about the whole scandal of the cucumber and everything. And I actually, for as much as she can defend herself, like I can see it.
What does she said? She insists her infamous accent changes are completely organic.
She defended herself in Sunday's episode of The Ball Wins as she explained that her multicultural
background has helped her become quote a chameleon. She said, growing up in a way
where you have multiple cultural influences on you
means that you're never going to be able to fit in.
You can try, you know.
This is literally me when I pretend to be Latin.
Or pretend to be Gen X.
She said, you know, people who code switch
were very good at chameleoning.
And you don't even think, you're not even thinking about it.
It's just normal, it's just natural.
So code switching is when the practice
of adapting mannerisms or dialect
to fit into different social groups.
It's really crazy to use the term code switching
when you're not a Latin person.
Like that's insane.
Well, she said she had very much-
She's literally like Anglo-Saxon from Boston.
She has English and Spanish influences in her life.
And she said-
Influences, okay, so she knows somebody Spanish.
She said she had to learn about code switching because the world was mean to her, so I had to learn it. It's code switching and she said the influences. OK, so she knows somebody Spanish. She said she had to learn about code
switching because the world was mean to her.
So I had to learn it.
It's code switching, she said.
She compared it to when you're speaking to an elderly individual.
You start talking really loud.
You're going to emphasize you're going to speak slower
and you're not even really thinking about it.
You just start to do it.
So it's just it's something innate.
It's not really something that she's like actively choosing to do.
But she said you never get get used to people being mean,
but you take a deep breath and I think you learn
to distance yourself from it.
And so, you know, I just tried turning the volume down
in my head a bit and I'm not gonna take it personally.
So she had claimed back in, you know, 2020,
she was busted for claiming that she was born in Spain
when she was actually raised in Boston.
Now, you know, I'm not one to go all woke.
This is what she said.
I just want to say, this is her words.
She said, my parents raised,
this was what she said to the controversy, sorry, back then.
And I feel like we definitely dissected it,
but I just want to remind you.
My parents raised my brother and me with two cultures,
American and Spanish.
And I feel a true sense of belonging to both.
The way I've spoken about myself and my deep connection to two cultures
could have been explained better.
I should have been more clear and I'm sorry and I'm sorry.
I'm proud of the way I was raised and we're raising our children
to share the same love and respect for both.
Now, it's entirely possible to have been raised with a culture
and around a culture that's not yours.
And maybe you live in a cultural neighborhood.
Or I think her father was like a professor
of Spanish something.
So I can understand that doesn't translate
into an accent, okay?
Accents are regional.
They are, I'm surprised she doesn't talk like Dave Portnoy.
Like that would make more sense.
She's from Boston.
But sometimes, I mean, if her parents aren't Spanish,
this is tough, but like sometimes when people
have parents who have an accent
or speak a different language.
They speak a little differently.
Yes, especially if the language that their parents speak
is actually their first language,
that's what they learn at home, and then they learn English.
Her parents are not of Latin descent.
But maybe they spoke Spanish in the home a lot.
Maybe they wanted her to have it.
Maybe it's the parents' fault.
We spoke Spanish in the home a lot.
Not first.
Not as our first language.
I'm sorry, this is acting like not to be awoke.
And you're Latin.
Right, not to be awoke, but I'm sorry, like I'm offended.
And I'm not defending her at all because I-
Actually you are, but continue.
I'm just arguing a little bit like,
to the point that maybe we could like,
she could be more than this one day.
You know what I mean?
Like I feel like for so long, it's like hilarious.
Like I'm shocked they even got a question.
I'm shocked they even got a show because like that's how canceled she was.
Let me ask you a question.
You think that maybe she we could move on from this and then she could be more
than the scandal.
Do you think just see Smollett could ever be more than his fake hate crime?
Like for real, you know, just the thing, it's like there's victims,
there was courts, there's taxpayer dollars.
What this girl does on her Instagram and in her free time.
It's a victimless crime.
Who cares?
What's crazier is what's easier to move on from?
The fact that she faked her accent
or her husband shot someone.
I know.
The thing is, is that like, I've definitely.
I think my feelings.
You find yourself moving on.
No, not moving on.
I find myself like really having,
even though Alec Baldwin is like,
seriously, what are the craziest people on the planet?
Like I find myself having a lot of sympathy for him
in the Rust shooting, like seriously, not his fault.
Like no part of it is his fault.
But at the end of the day-
Also traumatic for him.
Of course, and at the end of the day,
like Alec Baldwin has killed someone.
Yeah.
Through no- That's something
y'all have to live with.
Yes, through, and like a young woman, a mother,
through no fault of his own.
I really believe that.
Like I actually, it's the craziest thing.
And I actually don't think about it that much
because he has so much other stuff going on.
Like 30 Rock is one of my favorite shows.
He's like a beloved.
Hilaria Baldwin like doesn't have a lot going on
besides this gamble.
For you there's not enough like pros to outweigh the cons. Like, you know, it's like Karen Huger where
she did something bad, but you have so much love for her. Right. And Alec Baldwin like is a
complicated person for sure. And he's, you know, thoughtless little pig. He's had a lot of scandals,
but like, I don't know, I just can't quit him. It's kind of the Jack Donaghy effect.
I understand. I just feel like, I feel like we can move forward from this.
She is having a bit of a redemption arc. Like this show, I think is a little bit positive.
People who are watching it are opening themselves up to her. I just want to let you know, like,
I'm still at the restaurant. I will be there for eternity. It will never not be
the weirdest thing ever to me. She can explain it in every accents and languages she wants.
Her name is Hillary, she's from Boston and she's white.
But what's also funny is that like, so she was busted.
Why is she different than Rachel Dolezal?
She was busted.
Well, I just feel like Hilaria continues
to walk in her truth, you know?
Like she's still- So does Rachel, by the way.
She's still doing this.
Like she's talking like Spanish, Spanglish on the show
and her kids have like Spanish names.
And by the way, I think her family does live in Spain now.
And it's like, it's not like she was busted
for faking something.
It's like she was busted, but that's who she is.
And she's still doing it.
It kind of makes it better.
I do think, what does Rachel Dolezal identify as now?
Does she admit that it was like all a lie?
Yeah, like I feel like she was like faking it
as a means to an end,
not because like that was what was in her soul, you know?
I mean, Rachel Dolezal was so crazy
because not only was she not black,
but she was also the president of the NAACP.
Right, like I feel like she was doing
like advanced her job and like,
Hilaria's doing this for Hilaria's self.
Well, no, she's doing it like to be like
an interesting media personality, but yes.
But she's even doing it in the home when no one's looking.
Are her kids gonna have fake accents?
Like, cause their mom does?
I think because yeah, they speak a lot of Spanish,
but I don't know.
I would have to watch the show to see what their dialect is.
By the way, she has kids who are 11, so like, we'll know.
Yeah, sooner or later.
No, we'll know if we just turned on the show.
Oh, right, but I can't.
Like, I just can't get myself to do it.
No, no, no, I would only turn on TLC for the Colpos.
I would only turn on TLC for my sister wives,
my strange addiction.
And my 500 pound sister.
The thousand pound sisters.
I didn't know I was pregnant
and the man with the 19 pound scrotum, that's it.
And of course hoarders.
And-
Extreme couponing, which you'll be on soon.
And I'll be on extreme cheapskates.
Extreme cheapskates is actually one
of the most nauseating shows.
Like you can't watch it with a full stomach.
Maybe if you want it,
like if your average cheapness is starting to bother you,
you should watch that show.
It might be curative.
Yeah, it's like a cautionary tale
about what I could become.
So slippery, so.
Next thing I know, I'm picking up roadkill for dinner.
Yum-o, 10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
That's my heat chair.
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What number?
Number four.
Yeah.
Some biz news.
Oh yeah.
We actually have two biz news stories today,
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I'm not mad about it. Is that four and five?
That's four and five.
Okay, so maybe I'm not ready.
So we can do like a biz news segment.
I don't want to break up the biz news.
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Next story, Biz News.
Forever 21 is filing for brain corruptcy again.
Brain corruptcy, I hate when I go brain corrupt.
It's very sad.
And maybe they weren't-
Honestly, wait, I kind of love that.
Brain corrupt could be a new, you know when your mind goes
blank, like a kind of a brain fart?
You're brain corrupt.
Yeah, but they are bankrupt and probably brain crump too.
They're planning to call-
For like the second time.
And now this time they're gonna close all their US stores.
I feel like people always threaten us with this.
Yeah, but then every now and again,
like it actually happens.
I know, Party City is still closing.
Right, it's been a year, Bed Bath and Beyond,
but they actually closed.
Meanwhile, that's like a story we really need.
And them going out of business
has actually impacted me personally.
My life in a negative way.
Toys R Us, like gone, they're back.
In Macy's.
Right, so, and even Forever 21,
they went bankrupt like two years ago.
Yeah, sometimes like going bankrupt is just like a flex,
and then other times it is the demise.
Sometimes it's a strategic financial move, you know, maybe I'll do it.
Yeah, save some money.
To file chapter 11, like I think you get cleared of all your debt or something.
Yeah, and then you could maybe sign up for a couple more subscriptions.
But because I'm so economical.
Maybe you could finally get MSG+.
Because I'm so economical, I don't have debts.
That's true. She's in the green.
I'm in economical, I don't have debts. That's true. She's in the green. I'm in the green.
Nothing lasts forever, not even Forever 21,
the clothing retailer that was once a centerpiece
in malls across America is filed for bankruptcy again
and plans to close its remaining locations for good.
In a statement, the company said it can't compete
with foreign fast fashion retailers.
That's always a good move to blame it on fast fashion.
Blame she in.
Everybody hates fast fashion, except we're buying it. Excuse me Shein. Everybody hates fast fashion except we're buying it.
Excuse me, Forever 21 is fast fashion.
Except we're buying it every day, but we hate it.
It's so terrible.
And like Forever 21 is American Shein to me.
How they weren't able to be successful is shocking.
They invented fast fashion.
No, when I think of fast fashion, I think Forever 21.
The reason why they're not successful
is because they haven't evolved at all.
Like so many brands recently, like the times have changed.
You know, people aren't wearing
like their little graphic tees anymore.
I feel like Abercrombie has really evolved.
Yes.
PacSun has really evolved.
Yes.
Forever 21 has stayed the same.
And they've stayed like obsessed focused on retail.
Yeah.
Which nobody shops that anymore.
Their website sucks.
Yeah.
Like Abercrombie is so, that's a perfect example.
Cause they're from the same generation
and they've totally rebranded.
Is your sweatshirt Abercrombie?
Boys lie.
Okay, whatever.
But that's how you know Abercrombie
is getting mistaken for boys lie.
Yeah, no, I shop Abercrombie all the time.
I actually use just best place in order
cause I need new clothes.
That's a great example.
I don't know what Forever 21 has been doing.
They just kept the same formula
and hoped that people would come.
And even H&M has evolved.
Zara is the fastest of the fashion.
They're constantly, they do a great job.
Gap, people could do it.
Sure, fast fashion, blame the foreign retailers,
but you didn't even try.
You didn't even try. You didn't even try.
I didn't even know they were still around.
They took their success from like 10 years ago
and thought it would just like, they could coast on it.
They didn't evolve.
No, they didn't.
Evolve or die, that's what they say.
And here we are.
Dead.
So like not to victim blame, but you played yourself.
No, of course not, but you're wrong for this.
Sometimes the place closes and it's like,
oh, we are wrong.
You know, like we don't deserve nice things.
And they were crushing it.
They were killing it.
There was nothing more they could've done.
Or it's like, we're so online
that we can't appreciate the part.
Even like Joanne Fabrics closing was sad.
You know, we're not sewing enough
and we're disgusting for that.
Barnes and Noble.
Barnes and Noble and we're disgusting.
And we're disgusting.
This, I'm sorry, this isn't on us.
You guys are disgusting forever 21.
Yeah.
So you should have been like our next brand.
Oh yeah.
Poppy PepsiCo is buying the pre-biotic soda with Soda Brand Poppy for nearly $2 billion.
And we were just talking about them, their big scandal.
I guess the vending machines didn't put them out of business.
Oh my God, they were probably like
assigning the paperwork and like quaking.
Well, I was thinking like a big stupid scandal like that.
Like, does that impact mergers and acquisitions?
Obviously not, I think at the end of the day, rising tides.
No, at the end of the day, it's dollars and cents.
Like, oh, okay, people are mad about vending machines,
but like you guys make $2 billion.
Okay, we'll take it.
Right, so PepsiCo buying this soda replacement,
it's like actually really crazy.
They must've been impacting the business enough.
Soda sales have been going down
except brands like Poppy and Ollipop.
Right. Prebiotic soda brands have become very popular.
Coca-Cola even recently launched its own prebiotic
soda brand called Simply Pop.
So instead of launching their own,
they decided to acquire Alipop,
which I think is the better move.
I agree.
First of all, I'd love to see-
Supports small businesses.
They came from Shark Tank.
They came from shark tank.
It used to be called mother.
It was like made of vinegar.
They got a deal with that guy who was like the beverage guy.
He did the BAI drink by Rohan.
Yeah. Rohan, I think his name is,
he's like super successful guy.
But that was also years ago.
So it's also interesting to see how long it took for them to
get acquired.
Cause this is, and of course, you know,
who was the guest shark on that episode
and had to make 11 TikToks about it, Bethany Frankel.
It was called mother back then.
And it was a pregnant woman and her husband
who launched this business and it's remained female founded.
Now they took on investors like from Shark Tank.
Also Olivia Munn was a big celebrity investor.
Alex Earl was given equity a little while ago,
so I'm really curious to know how much percentage.
Let's see if she moves into a big house.
Correct, because even if she got 1% of the company,
which I think people are like,
she definitely got at least 1%.
No, I think she probably got like a third of a percent,
because when it's that big of a company,
those are the numbers you're working with.
But still, even half a percent is $7 million.
Yeah.
It's insane.
Yeah. This is great news for the industry.
This is exciting for the founders.
It's big for women in business, women in business, for health.
It is great for influencers.
This is really a brand that's gotten big
from influencer marketing, podcast marketing.
So I think it's really good.
And it's just trending towards healthier soda.
Okay. Well now of course, because like it's just trending towards healthier soda. Okay.
Well now of course, because like Poppy's
just one of those brands,
because they're so chronically online,
there's backlash, right?
Like you sold to big evil Pepsi.
And it's like, can we just be happy
for this woman owned business?
So that's been happening with like a lot
of like the good food brands that started
because they were the clean alternative
to the big Frito-Lay.
I think even like Siete sold to Frito-Lay,
something like that.
And people in like the natural food space
are like very upset
because they're like, they're gonna change the formulas.
Well, if they do change the formulas,
like then it just defeats the purpose.
But I don't think they're gonna change the formulas.
And instead it makes it like more ubiquitous
so that like you could get a poppy
at a gas station on the side of the road
and not have to get an unhealthy soda.
And you know, I've actually been drinking poppy orange soda.
Like when I was trying to drink less soda,
I kind of gave up on that, but it's fucking delicious.
Yeah, I've got to find my flavor.
Yes, so not every flavor is gonna like rock your world.
And at first I was like, this is what people are obsessed
with and then Ben brought home this orange soda
because he was doing like something with like a Fanta drink
or whatever and he brought home the poppy orange soda because he was doing like something with like a Fanta drink or whatever. And he brought home the poppy orange soda
and it was unbelievably delicious.
And I just need to add to our list of duplicates,
Oli Pop and Poppy.
Oli Pop, yes.
Because they launched the same year,
they do the same thing and they have a similar name.
So I think that Poppy like really invented
an entirely new space.
They were the first to do this and then became the biggest.
And I think a lot of these other brands are inspired by them.
But I feel like the fact that they launched the same year
just means like there's two people with the same idea.
Cause it takes a while to get something like this.
There's no way one wasn't inspired by the other.
You think?
Because they're both soda replacements made of probiotics.
Why does that equal pop in the name?
Because pop equals soda.
Soda.
Yeah, but like there's a lot of soda brands.
And they were mother first.
Right.
And Alipop, oh, it was valued at $1.85 billion
during its latest funding round,
which was announced in February.
Oh, maybe they're next, Coca-Cola.
He said that, the founder said that Soda Giants,
Pepsi-Cola, and Coca-Cola had already come knocking
about a potential sale, but Coca-Cola had already come knocking about a potential sale,
but Coca-Cola bought, it started Simply Pop.
They started their own, which is a flop.
Yeah. So maybe they should have bought Ollypop.
And it could be like the new Coke and Pepsi,
Ollypop versus Poppy.
Yes. I like that.
But like, could I still have a Diet Coke?
Of course you can.
And a Diet Dr. Pepper.
Of course you can.
Okay, cool.
But yeah, I'm gonna get into this. I'm gonna get into it. We need to start making Diet Dr. Pepper like Of course you can. Okay, cool. But yeah, I'm gonna get into this.
I'm gonna get into it.
We need to start making Diet Dr. Pepper
like a little bit more ubiquitous.
So like when you go to a restaurant
and they have like, can you get a Diet Coke?
Can you get a Dr. Pepper?
No.
Or like when you go to a restaurant now,
you could probably get a Poppy.
Like soon with Pepsi-Co distribution.
So if they have a fountain machine.
Yeah, they'll get on tap.
Well, that's the other thing.
Pepsi-Co is so big.
A lot of people don't realize PepsiCo owns
most of the fast food chains in this country.
They own Taco Bell.
Cause you can get a Diet Dr. Pepper at Taco Bell
because it's a PepsiCo owned.
And you'll probably be able to get a poppy at Taco Bell.
I bet they'll do like a Baja Blast poppy.
Yeah, which is why this is good.
Even though they probably won't change the formula,
but now you'll have your healthier option
everywhere you go. like that is good.
And they can't do that without these huge companies
and they can't do it quickly.
And by the way, PepsiCo also owns Frito-Lay.
Who were you just saying got bought by Frito-Lay?
I know it was Siete got bought by Frito-Lay.
Yeah, so they own like every chip, they own Gatorade,
they own Mountain Dew, Dye Dr. Pepper,
Tostitos, Ruffles, literally everything.
Yeah, yummy, this is making me hungry.
I'm just starving always.
I'm really hungry.
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Hey, girlies, I'm kind of freaking out.
I'm sure you've heard of the fourth wing series
in case you haven't.
It's a book series in the fantasy genre,
but it also has a lot of good smut and porn in it.
My parents know I've been reading this series
and loving it.
They don't-
Did you read fourth wing?
I read the first one and then stopped
in the middle of the second.
I got so confused.
No, that's fine, it's over.
Yeah, it's over.
It stinks, and I don't even think Margo liked the third one.
Okay, so look.
My parents know I've been reading this series
and loving it, they don't know what it's about,
but recently one of my mom's friends
told my mom to start reading it.
I tried to do everything I could to convince my mom
she wouldn't like it and not to start it,
but much to my dismay, she's already two chapters in
and loving it, loving it so much in fact
that she got my dad to start reading it.
Please, what do I do?
I'm mortified and I'm so anxious just waiting for them to get to the part
where there's actual porn. My family is close, but we do not talk about that stuff. I don't think I
can get them to stop reading, so my question is more about how do I deal with the situation.
Right now, I'm not bringing up the fact that there are the most descriptive sex scenes you've ever
seen in this book, but once they get there, how do I tell them? There's a 50-50 chance that they
either bring it up as a joke or completely ignore it, but genuinely I'm panicking. So anything you can tell me would be great.
Love you guys so much.
I've truly asked everyone in my life what to do,
but I need the advice of my swirlies.
But also by the way, I'm 26 years old and a girl,
if that helps.
Okay. I just want to say,
I feel like fourth wing wasn't that smutty.
I actually remember when we did the redheads episode,
like there were complaints that like this smut,
there wasn't enough smut and it happened much later
in the book.
I will be sure. Okay, but the bar for the redheads and smut and it happened much later in the book. I would be sure-
Okay, but the bar for the redheads in smut
is very different than this girl's dad.
Okay, I just wanna say, the smut,
I think we like literally said it didn't happen
until like the second half of the book.
I don't think your dad's gonna read that much.
Like, I think he's gonna be-
It's kind of a tough read.
Like really fucking bored by it.
Well, this is definitely like a weird thing.
I remember getting a book recommendation.
I remember talking about a book that I was reading.
Do you even remember the smut scenes from Fourth Wing?
Like I don't remember.
I remember there was one where he like made a cloud
of smoke and she couldn't see anything.
Like that's like his power.
It is.
And she's like blinded or something.
I really don't know.
I didn't love Fourth Wing.
I don't love fantasy. But I can understand that this is really don't know. I didn't love, fourth thing, I don't love fantasy,
but I can understand that this is really awkward for you.
I'm embarrassing, this thing that you're obsessed with,
now everyone's gonna know part of the reason
why you're obsessed.
But just to say, I don't think this is a full smut book,
especially not the first one,
because it takes a while to establish a relationship
between Violet and Zayden,
they're not having sex for a while.
So I think that your parents can see why you like this book.
And it's not like you're reading 50 Shades of Grey
where it's like, oh, you're just reading pornographic.
Yes, that's true.
Like there is a story, there is world building,
there are a couple sex scenes,
but like, I don't think it's so embarrassing.
And if your mom reads a good amount,
all books have sex now, all books.
Yeah, so I'm not worried about your mom.
Like I also think your dad will stop reading it
before it gets to a sort of inflection point.
And if your mom does read,
and you have to think about like TV shows.
Did your mom watch Game of Thrones?
Like it's the same thing.
It's a little different.
I don't know why.
But it's really not.
But I remember like we watched Game of Thrones
and like when you said you were gonna watch,
like it's not just nakedness and sex.
As long as the book,
there are certain books that are literally made for porn.
If this was about 50 shades
and they had no idea what they were reading,
yes, run for cover, join the witness protection program.
Or even some of the smut literary books that go viral.
They have in one summer.
They have no substance.
That's embarrassing. You're just reading for sex.
At least this book is like 600 pages
and maybe 30 of the pages are for.
Sexy Harry Potter.
Yeah, it's definitely awkward
and I can see this having the potential to be weird,
but now that I've broken it down, I think you're okay.
I think you're okay.
It's so not as bad as it could be
and you're allowed to like this book
and you could like it for other reasons other than smut.
There's a lot going on.
I think you're protected
and let's just hope your dad hates it.
Yeah, I have very little faith
your dad makes it to the end.
Yeah.
I don't know him, but just a vibe.
Yeah, it's long.
Hey Jackson Claude,
my husband recently got a new secretary.
She always calls and texts him
and cries to him every day about her marriage issues,
that she might be getting a divorce.
She barely shows up to work,
but my husband has not fired her.
Last weekend, we were away.
She called to ask work questions.
She was on speaker, and at the end of the call,
she asks, are you alone?
He said no quickly and hung up.
When I asked him about it, he's like,
oh, it was probably nothing, but I don't think it was nothing.
Am I crazy or is something nefarious going on here?
I don't want to snoop, but maybe I should.
It was not nothing.
Yeah, asking someone if they're alone is crazy.
Like being in the car on the phone when like it connects,
Ben will pick up the phone and he'll,
he's the first thing he always says,
hey, I'm in the car with Claude.
Why'd you say that?
I know, but it's like,
And it's like, it's like his dad.
So no one has to ask if you're alone.
And like his dad,
even if they're not gonna talk shit about you,
which of course is what you think they're gonna do.
Like he could be talking about a personal problem.
Of course. A medical issue. If you ever called me and like we about you, which of course is what you think they're gonna do. Like he could be talking about a personal problem. Like a medical issue.
If you ever called me and like we were talking,
we talk about like a lot of deep personal stuff.
And I didn't tell you Ben was in the room.
Like it's, yeah, the gracious thing is to like announce,
but to phrase it like that.
And also this is a work relationship.
It shouldn't matter.
It shouldn't matter.
If you're dead, your real ass coworker calls you about work
and has to ask if you're alone,
you're talking about things that are not work related.
Now it's entirely possible the next thing
she was gonna say-
Unless they work for like the secret service
and it's all like confidential.
Oh yeah, is your man an FBI agent?
Yeah.
It's entirely possible that what she was gonna say
after are you alone is like more marital stuff
and she didn't wanna unload in front of somebody.
But him then like lying and saying,
no, there's something weird going on.
Well, he didn't lie, but.
No, he like quickly hung up and she said,
he said, it was probably nothing.
Really unprofessional and she should not be employed
by your husband.
Correct.
And so first you should just keep tabs on it,
like just in case they're having an affair, like keep tabs.
But then like you should push him towards finding
like a secretary that's not a basket case, sorry.
And don't come from like a place of threatened
being like, listen, you're a very busy man,
a successful man, you can't have this lunatic nutcase.
It's a bad look for the office.
She's the first person people meet.
The character from Inside Out,
the blue woman who's Phyllis from the office, Gloom.
She just gives that vibe.
And that's not how you want your company represented.
Keep your problems at home.
That's your boss.
It's not even your coworker.
Correct.
I'm sorry, people have to act professional.
I agree, this is a fireball offense.
It's a place of work.
Correct.
And beyond that, there might be something nefarious going on.
But even if there's not.
Yeah, no, your husband just-
She's a problem.
She's a problem.
She's one to watch.
Our third and final Dear Toasters.
Hello Jackson Turd.
First, I can't thank you ladies enough
for being the most gargipargy girlies
and bringing me so much joy on my weekdays.
So here's my dilemma.
I'm getting married in a few months
and my fiance and his family love sports.
My future mother-
Do they keep up with sports? Yes, but not with Lamar. Or Caitlin? My future mother-in-law- Do they keep up with sports?
Yes, but not with Lamar.
Or Caitlin.
My future mother-in-law told me that she's having
the mascot of my fiance's favorite MLB team
come to my bridal shower,
and the mascot of our college is coming to our wedding.
I really don't care about his favorite baseball team,
and I don't want a guy in a costume at our wedding.
That's kinda cute, they went to the same college. Yeah, I like sports, but I want both days to be about us
and not sports for a couple of days.
Should I mention it to my fiance or do I just tell her
that it's not what I want?
Am I being selfish?
Also, she's not paying for the wedding.
So it's really like not her place.
I want to say there's two separate issues here.
I agree the bridal shower and the wedding.
Your man's favorite MLB team coming to your bridal shower.
That's ridiculous.
That's insane.
Bridal showers are pargy.
They're classy affairs, tea sandwiches.
Like you have to dip that in the bud.
But actually like a wedding can get rowdy.
And if you both went to the same college
and like the master comes.
Oh my God, if the raider came out, that's hysterical.
Yeah, like at the end, not at the ceremony,
but like at the after party.
I think that's entirely appropriate.
The bridal shower is really nuts.
Yeah, so this is good because you're not being complete.
If you like just accept our advice,
you're not being completely unreasonable.
If you put the kibosh on one and not the other
and just be like, that's cute, we could do that.
But the basket at my bridal shower is not happening.
Security will escort him out.
Like do not hire that person.
Yeah, so I feel like in you coming to us,
like we can tell you, like you are being a little dramatic
about the wedding thing, but you're 100% on the money.
Like the bridal shower is really weird.
First of all, because bridal showers are all girls.
So it's literally not about the husband at all.
It's about the bride.
No, it's so weird.
The wedding is about the couple
and the couple went to the same college
and the couple like sports.
So like it's, the mascot is emblematic of them.
Why the MLB teams got, like who gives a fuck?
Yeah, they're not the same.
No, and it's your wedding
and specifically your bridal shower.
So the mother of the groom has a little bit of say
in what goes on at the wedding,
but she has literally no say,
unless she's a toaster, a GenX toaster.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
She has no say in what goes on at the bridal shower.
That's really your day.
No, and if she had a bad idea
for what goes on at the wedding,
we would tell you to resist,
but this is actually a good idea
and people will enjoy it.
So you're just like, you're just hating sports
and that's blinding you from seeing a good idea.
Yeah.
And maybe you're also just like hating the mother
of the groom, which is understandable.
Weddings can be stressful.
Yeah. But I'm sorry.
You need security detail for that mascot
at your bridal shower.
1000% keep an eye out.
Through the door.
There'll be a brawl. Keep an eye out for Mr not be through the door. There will be a brawl.
Keep an eye out for Mr. Met, you know?
There will be a brawl in the street.
That would be really crazy.
Save your money.
Right, why doesn't she gift you the money instead?
Right.
Cause I feel like it's expensive to have an MLB mascot
like for hire.
Unless you're getting like a generic,
yeah, like a generic Mr. Net.
It probably is that because it's like,
doesn't matter who's under the costume.
Correct.
Well, that's our show you guys.
That's Dear Toasters.
Again, thank you to everyone
who was really vulnerable with us this week.
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