The Toast - Elegant Cheating with Sofia Franklyn: Wednesday, April 26th, 2023

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Wednesday. It's hump day, which is so appropriate because I want to hump my co-host because you look so stunning. Do I actually? Yes.

Because I just, I need to get this off my chest. First of all, I'm fresh off a red eye. Yes. But I wouldn't look it. You wouldn't. However. However. I was just in San Diego

and I asked the hairstylist to do a micro trim. Okay, that's psychotic to get a haircut. Like not with your go-to person in another state. I was desperate. Claudia. Go on. Claudia, my bangs were completely grown out. My hair was like scraggly like it needed to happen.

I could not deal with it. That's psychotic, but sure. And I knew I wouldn't have time to get in this week because I leave on Friday okay she chopped my hair off like it's I when I go in for a haircut I go in like it's a surgery yeah and it is it is and I'm so serious about micro trim one eighth of an inch why do you think my hair is up right now? Okay, I just want to say your hair looks great, even though it's up, I can't see. And I want to feel bad for you, but going to a new salon in a new state with a person you've never used

is so like such a mentally ill thing to do. I can't even feel bad for you. I did research. Especially when like me, you seem very particular about it. Some people are like, yeah, I just cut my hair. Not me, but some people are like that. So you're particular and you still very particular about it. Some people are like, yeah, I just cut my hair. Not me, but some people are like that.

So you're particular and you still went and did that. What if you knew you had to look very great for something over the weekend and you wouldn't be able to see someone in New York? The devil you know. I know what my hair looks like without a haircut. And the devil you don't know is this new international hair cutter. That is so true.

The devil you know. I should have just let it be scraggly. Yeah, better scraggly than something you really don't like. Even though you look beautiful. You can't look bad. Claudia, my hair is up right now. So where are your hair up this weekend? Oh my God, all weekend?

Where are you going? That's going to be somewhere so fabulous that you need to look so stunning for. Las Vegas. What for? I thought you were going to say, bitch, no, you do not need to look that fabulous. Yes, by the way, you need to look fabulous in Vegas. There is an opening. They're opening a cathedral there.

Oh, Tao Group. Oh, cool. And I was invited by one of my friends. And so I was like, you know what? Single me. I'm fucking going. Well, let's talk about that. I feel like I just like completely took over your podcast.

That's the point. You're like diary of the mouth. That's the point. You're single. I'm single. Like diary of the mouth. That's the point. Um, you're single. I am single. You, but you were seeing someone.

I was seeing someone. I wasn't like very, very public about it for obvious fucking reasons, but we dated for, I don't know, roughly a year. If that. Oh,

wow. And then I was like, Sophia, you're 30. And if you don't see this being your husband, time to knock it off. Yep. Right? Yeah.

Are you and I the same age? Please don't age me. I'm 28. But I'm literally a month away from turning 29. So like, yeah, we're the same age. Okay, great. Are you a Cancer? I am.

What are you? A Cancer. I don't see you as a Cancer. I don't see horoscopes. I don't see horoscopes I don't believe in them I don't understand them I think it's fraudulent so that makes sense that you wouldn't see me as a cancer you're Leo oh okay I'm not I'm literally a cancer but okay Sophia keep telling me what I am I will um do you so you don't want to be single I feel like you for a while were like like being single okay So I am a total serial monogamous.

Oh, wow. To a very unhealthy degree. Yeah. AKA my relationships will overlap. Oh, which is a form. I don't know if I would describe that as a serial monogamous,

but continue, continue. That's actually the most like eloquent gracious way to say say it yeah like i'm so obsessed with relationships sometimes i'll be in two at once yeah sometimes they overlap uh so that's been me for the last i don't know 10 years of my life and so this is the first time I have been single since I swear to god high school oh wow which is scary yeah but I feel like you know your experience being single and maybe I'm just romanticizing it because I think the world of you you're like this fabulous stunning gorgeous like it must be so fun for you to be single does everybody want a piece of Sophia with an f

no no no I mean I mean, I mean, some people do, but I'm depressed. Really? This breakup is very recent. Oh. Like, I'm not running around, you know.

Gallivanting. I mean, I am, but I'm, like, I'm dying inside. But you're crying when you get home. Yeah, exactly. Okay, that's so relatable, Sophia.

But I think it'll go away. The singledom or the depression? Both. Hopefully. here's hoping well you look great I'm so excited that you're back on the toast it's been so long and everybody loved Fofia Yanklin last time I am gonna kill you for calling you that Fofia Yanklin is that what you said lol I love Fofia Yanklin Fofia Yanklin is that because um my therapist is assistant did text me Fofia? You told that story last time on the toast that you said, oh, yeah, it's Sofia with an

F. And so she wrote, hey, Fofia. Insanity. F-O-P-H-I-A. Insanity. I do not see that therapist anymore, by the way. That's good. Are you in therapy? Of course.

What do you talk about? Is that an OK question to ask? Because I don't go to therapy, so I don't know. You don't? No. Claudia. It's not that I'm against it at all I just feel like I'm not like like your life is like I don't know is going pretty good no my life is not going like um it's like my life is like everyone's life it's good and bad at times I'm actually having a great week right now you know but next week will probably be terrible okay um but I feel like I actually um I handle things very decently

what does that mean what does that look like it looks like I don't talk about anything and then last night I had a full-blown mental breakdown watching an episode of Young Sheldon I was so triggered by this episode can I tell you what happened do you watch Young Sheldon no I don't even know what that is okay let me tell you you know the big bang theory yes the dumbest show I think it's so stupid I think it's stupid I think it's so stupid. I hate. I think it's stupid. I think everyone on it sucks. Like I hate it. I love Mayim Bialik. I agree.

Jewish queen. I take back everything I said. Thank you. But they made a spinoff show about the character Sheldon. They did a spinoff show of like what his life was like being like a child genius growing up in like the 80s in like South Texas or whatever. And it's like such a dumb concept. And I don't even like Big Bang Theory,

but I weirdly watched an episode like on a plane and it was such a heartwarming, such a cute sitcom that I started it from the beginning. Me and Ben are obsessed. So Bia, it's got heart, it's got comedy, it's got science. It's the best fucking show. And it's a spinoff of the Big Bang Theory, which we just said we despise.

Exactly, but it's like a prequel. I think you just watch so much television that at this point you're like, I'll try anything. Yes. You'll take what you can get. Okay, but let me tell you, that's not what's happening here.

Okay, fine. Because this show is so good. And Sheldon is like, his dad's this football coach and I lost my dad very young. And his dad is this football coach. They really don't have a lot in common because Sheldon is like this big nerd

and he just cares about like science and stuff. And his dad is like football, football, football, very Texas barbecue beer, you know, et cetera etc and they take a trip like a a trip his dad drives him to go to florida when the one of the rockets from nasa is gonna take off i'm trying to act interested right now but keep going whatever all i'm trying to say was like this episode with like this this father trying to help his son and it ended up being like one of the best weekends of the son's life and he never got to tell his dad that because he ended up passing away i'm just okay something fucking hit me from left field and i cried for 25 minutes literal tears oh no no sobbing sob

ben like had to hold me i was uncontrollably stopping some things like with grief like something's just hit you like that you don't expect and i don't cry every day i don't even cry every week or really every month but every now and then something random and there was this episode of young Sheldon okay hit me fucking sideways that were you on an airplane no I was in my bed last night okay I was gonna say maybe the altitude I'm very attuned to my emotional awareness on planes but that wasn't it so what about just you and your life yeah and people doing something hurtful to you in real life? I feel like that doesn't even affect you.

Oh, that's interesting. Is that what people go to therapy for? I don't think they go for Sheldon, whatever show you're talking about. No, I think they go for Sheldon. I really do think. Oh, okay. How do I handle like any sort of adversity or challenges like in my relationships is what you're saying? Yeah.

Well, I have a very small circle. Very. I feel like you do not let people in. No. And part of that is like a general disinterest. But part of that is like also if you cross me even once remotely by accident, like I don't really feel like the relationship is worth pursuing. Okay.

So I'm at a place in my life where everyone who's in my life, like, we get along. Is that weird? Like, it's mostly, like, family and, like, five friends. Actually, that's how I am. Yeah. I really have a friend group of about five people. Right. And then my family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's how I keep it. And those, like, if there's any sort of confrontation with anybody in that group, like, I know it's worth. Right. Working through. Right. But sometimes you ever have a friendship or, like, a relationship's like they hurt you but like you don't even care that much about the friendship so it's like what we're gonna get down to the bottom of this and like have

awkward conversations when I don't even care no that's never happened to me oh that's how I feel like somebody does something to me and Ben's like well you should say something I'm like but I don't really care but okay but I want to know what that means someone crossing you oh I have a very low bar for friendship honestly like I just like if you betray my trust oh okay that's it a hundred percent like I don't care you could like you like a boy that I like or whatever I don't know what people fight about I don't care literally if you tell someone something I told you in confidence I'm done that's the only thing I care about I am totally on board and then we just like we have to get along and you have to be able to take a joke right but I mean like there's no like turbulence like work-wise in your relationship

of course no there's very there's turbulence work-wise in my relationship yeah yeah but I either ignore it okay or I work through it ignore it or work through it with work stuff like I ignore it like if something's weighing on me work-wise, like, I seriously just ignore it until it goes away. And with Ben, we have pretty decent communication. Like, sometimes, you know, it blows up. But every now and then, like, we have decent communication. Okay, great. So, I don't know.

I'm not against therapy at all. I've done it before. Mostly for my grief. But then they just want to talk about it. And it's like, I'm good. So, yeah's that is what therapy is i'm just i'm looking at you with like just complete jealousy because i have been going to therapy since diapers i think it's great but i don't get how you've never gone to like one

session no i have i've gone to probably three total yeah with like three different therapists because i don't like them each time I left after the first session. Okay, see, this is what the issue is. And why didn't you like them? Well, first, I like how you're flipping the interview on me. Okay.

Okay, yeah. First, I didn't like it because the first time, the person was like taking liberties in the sense that like I was sharing information about my life and they were... Googling you?

No. Well, that's like a big fear of mine. But like I was talking about how my dad passed away he died of a heart attack and later on in the session she was like well do you think that's because you know your dad died of obesity I'm like excuse me I didn't fucking say that um is that crazy that's done she's done maybe she got her wires crossed but I think maybe she was just like extrapolating like oh here's a fat bitch maybe like her dad was fat like I did not like that I did not like that you think that's what it was I don't know I don't know but it's me or maybe she got confused maybe her client before had a dad who died of obesity that's a horrible horrible therapist so I moved on yeah then the next one was this really lovely older gentleman

and I really felt like he was a nice guy but he could not understand for the life of him what I do for a living bye and at the time so much of my anxiety was coming from like work stuff so what's the point right so it's just been like a series of mismatches now i feel like an asshole because now i understand the sheldon thing right now i feel like a huge asshole i need to literally walk out of this room it's fine now i understand it you had every right to be triggered yes i was triggered oh my god of course i was triggered and the dad is like this cute like old and he dresses kind of like how my dad used to dress like he's always going boating and i was just triggered by

this show and honestly i don't think i can watch it anymore but it's so good but it's so good maybe it could be like healing to to watch the next episode and just see how you feel maybe sheldon will heal me maybe Maybe you'll be my therapist. Yes. Okay, we got off track and like you're turning the tables on me and I don't like it.

No, well, and I don't have a dad. He's never been in my life. So maybe that's why I can't. That's why you can't relate. Yeah. Okay, that's interesting. See, we're opening up

and we're finding new layers of each other here at The Toast. That's what we do. Do we get this deep usually? We do. Sometimes we get deep. Like I'm not weird about being vulnerable especially i feel like when you have a podcast you can't be you can't are you weird about like opening up about certain things no mine sometimes i take it too far me too i gotta stop doing that i'm not gonna stop doing it no

it's what makes us authentic podcasters thank Thank you. How's everything going at Sophia with an F? Great. Amazing. I, you know, it took me like a second to find my footing after everything. But now I feel like I'm in a place where we can really just hone in and just go. And you get great guests. I do. Anyone big coming up that you want to share? I actually do have someone big coming up, but I don't want to share because i don't want to spoil it however i would like to say part of the reason i'm just super proud of how far i've come and by i mean we my team i have had no help from an agency a manager

you know a publicist it was very much like bootstrap every single guest we've had has reached out yes yeah every single one that's great every brand deal is negotiated by me and my small team of right three other people right right right no it feels better when you do it that way especially when you had to rebuild i've had to rebuild many times and to to accomplish things when you've really started at zero feels it feels bad it feels better like it feels so good it does and you can feel so proud of yourself especially as a girl like it's just so hard I mean I never feel like great about anything like taken seriously not even taken seriously I just think I'm very extremely self-critical yeah of course and I think that's something I definitely need to work on in therapy it's it's this feeling of I could always be doing more I know that's like a toxic trait of I think that's something I definitely need to work on in therapy. It's, it's this feeling of, I could always be doing more.

I know. That's like a toxic trait of, I think like the business we're in and people just like comparing themselves to others and seeing what other people are doing. And it just creates this, like for me, it's like a jealousy mentality. Like I see other people,

I'm like, I'm jealous and I want to do that. And then you like run yourself into a hole. It is. It has a lot to do with the comparison shit. And it's just competitive. And I think competition is good. Yeah. But to a point it is it has a lot to do with the comparison shit and it's just competitive and i think the competition is good yeah but to a point it becomes toxic yeah you are very good though at getting content out i mean the daily show doesn't hurt you do the show daily yeah

we're daily show that is absolutely nutty i know are my, my idol. And that's incredible. Every single Monday through Friday. Not Saturday. I would never work on the weekend. Sunday? No. Oh my God. You are a workhorse.

I know. Have you always been like that? No, no, no. It was like always my, my goal to not really work. Right.

I've never like dreamed of working in a sense like I think some people like dream of being a doctor. Like I dreamt of a lot of things. Of being a housewife? Well, yeah, but not even that. Like none of my dreams ever really had anything

to do with work. Like work for me was always just like going to be something that sustained my other dreams, you know, like going to Fiji or something. Exactly.

But some people have like career driven goals. I was really never one of those people, but I kind of fell into this business. And then the more success I started to have, it was just directly correlated to driven goals. I was really never one of those people, but I kind of fell into this business. And then the more success I started to have, it was just directly correlated to how much work I was putting in.

So is that how much it works? I know it's so annoying. Like you get in what you put out. I had no clue. It's so annoying. Cause I, I mean, if you think about it in my past,

I, a lot of it was like just me being so talented well no what happened to you was actually just so crazy and it's one of those like very um random not random because it is talent based but one of those situation yeah where it's just one day everything flips and you're doing millions of downloads and like most people most people will build and build and build to get to that place like a joe rogan type but when you were doing Call Her Daddy and you were one of the two biggest podcasts on the planet, that was just like so overnight almost. I'm sure that's how it felt for you.

A thousand percent. And then to have to restart a year later and rebuild, you've actually had both experiences. You now are at a place with your podcast where you have like a really good community and a big audience and you've built that solely week after week after week. Whereas with Call Her Daddy, it was almost instantaneous because I think you just went viral

and you had the barstool machine behind you. Yep. And it was like instantaneous. And that's really not how it is. No. No. And I'm learning that. Also, it was just like that taken away.

Oh, well, that's, I mean, that's why you go to therapy. No, no, no. I've gone to therapy way before that but like I definitely doubled the dose I mean now we're back to one time a week no anyone who's ever been through any sort of like internet drama where they were technically like the villain or the one being canceled needs years and years of therapy and maybe that's why I should go to therapy okay so yeah I would agree with that I love how you say that but you're like I've never gone really I do a daily show like when can I go to therapy. Okay. So yeah, I would agree with that. I love how you say that, but you're like, I've never gone really. I do a daily show.

Like when can I go to therapy? It's true. I need to stop with the therapy and all the bullshit and get content out and work more. Would you ever film your therapy sessions for a podcast? No, it's so personal. That's crazy.

That's psychotic. That's like, I mean, unless we have like a certain topic but like i'm not gonna like relive my childhood trauma no that's so i mean just drag people through the fucking dirt that's what people do on reality tv i feel like on kardashians on housewives we're always like sitting in on people's therapy sessions i'm like this feels a little too real that is so fucking true isn't it weird do you but there has to be like there are certain

things that are just completely off topic in terms of in terms of like public life well like the kardashians oh yeah there's definitely like actual things that go on there's a list of things that you do not with kardashians i feel like those therapy sessions are definitely like really fake and manipulated um but on reality tv like right now on real housewives of new jersey like her and her husband jennifer aiden are going to couples therapy and it's like really fucking personal and I'm like

we don't need to see this I don't imagine having a camera wouldn't you just like instinctively and I'm very authentic yeah there are certain things

that I would just my balls go up yeah a hundred percent not a lot of things but certain things me too

everyone has their own things and when you're in like public life like it's okay to have certain things that too Everyone has their own things And when you're in like Public life Like it's okay to have Certain things that you Don't talk about I'm very okay with that Boundaries

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Right. Right. So do you want me to comment on that? I will. Let me give you the details and then I'd like your take. So Olympic gymnast Simone Biles announced her wedding to the Houston Texans player Jonathan Owens on Saturday and she shared some couple some pictures of the gorgeous couple on Instagram. So she wore a dress with four tiaras

it had ruffles and she shared on her Instagram story that her beautiful gown was from an online boutique called selfie Leslie and it retails for $120 she also shared that her shoes were from Amazon and they cost $35 now this could never be me um especially if I'm a you know a world-renowned Olympic gymnast Simone Biles probably has so much money. She's so brand safe. She's an American legend, like Wheaties, you know, the whole thing. So that could never be me. But it is important to note this was her courthouse.

She does have a big wedding coming up. And if you knew what I wore to my courthouse wedding, you would be like, Claudia, shut up. You can't say anything. What? So the morning of, I knew I wanted to like wear like a really kind of like funny um funny yeah I like always have to be funny it's so annoying I wanted to go to a costume store and buy and I got married in September so like all those Halloween spirit pop-ups were open

and I wanted like a um very much giving Katie Heron energy at um Aaron Samuel's Halloween party where she directs an ex-wife. So I wanted like a big kind of funny satirical wedding dress. But not with blood and shit. No, well, that wasn't the goal. Okay, okay. But I went to Spirit Halloween the morning of and I thought there would be like a million wedding dresses.

I don't know why I thought that. And there weren't. There were just ghost wedding dresses. So I did end up dressing as like an apocalyptic bride. It was like this kind of um smoky very like ripped very apocalyptic zombie wedding and I I wore it because it was I waited till the last minute and it was all that I had and the person that whatever was marrying me yeah did they say anything um no because if you spend any time at city hall you know like the fucking

freaks of the century go down there and like do weird shit and stand outside. And like I was just one of the many freaks that day. Oh, OK. Yeah. So they didn't even bat an eyelash. Not a single one was bad. Was Ben dressed up? No.

Ben came from work and he's wearing like a polo and khakis. You know who I don't know how I feel about her, but Emily Ratajkowski, her little like pantsuit that she wore to the courthouse i thought that was really cool she's so chic and cool and she's like famous and a model and it has a stylist so it's like not that hard not all of us i mean she's not going to spirit halloween the morning of the courthouse so we're just like different girls in that sense but yes that's a very you know who looked so fucking fabulous at their courthouse wedding? Who? Of course, Jackie O. Jackie O. My sister, not Onesis.

I don't know. I don't know. Yes. I don't know what she wore. She wore this like. But she's always dressed incredible. She's always stylish. But she wore this like this white get up.

But she on top wore this like really chic pale pink petticoat. Like not petticoat. Like I don't know what the right word is. But she looked so. I'll find a picture. A blazer? No, no. It was like a. Like, not petticoat. Like, I don't know what the right word is. But she looked so... I'll find a picture and show it to you. A blazer? No, no, it was like a... Oh, not a floor length, but like a teacup length, pink...

I don't know what the right word is, because I'm not like a fashion girl. But a really chic coat. Your sister looks like she could be a Kennedy. Well, you know what I'm saying? She could be. As do you. But I think it's just the red hair, the way she dresses.

It's her porcelain skin. The porcelain skin. So what do you think about, what do you make of this queen, celebrity, rich Olympian wearing an outfit that costs $155? So this is how I feel about it. I'm the same as you. Could never be me. However, we all know the saying, it's not what you wear,

it's who's wearing it. Yeah, it's like how you feel. And Simone Biles, I mean, her body, just her as a person, she can get away with anything. I'm interested to know

why she broadcasted. She did a Q&A. Somebody asked, where did you get your dress and shoes from? And she said, courthouse shoes were from Amazon, not comfortable at all.

Then I changed into a different one. dress is from selfie leslie everything was ordered this week the dress the wedding the shoes the bouquet um i wasn't prepared that's a little bit of a contradiction there to get your shoes from amazon and then your dress ethically sourced right right i know there's like a little bit of a conflict there we have to look into yeah but i i don't hate it. Not you trying to cancel Simone Biles. I'm not trying to cancel Simone. I'm trying to cancel Jeff Bezos.

The one I'd wonder. I'm never trying to cancel Jeff Bezos. I know Amazon is like fast fashion and that's not going to stop me from getting 65 deliveries. I use Amazon all the time. Jeff just bothers me. Oh, I don't even care. And his girlfriend way. She bothers me too.

Breaking up a happy marriage. I really can't stress how, like, it's so hard to shop, you know, when you are a woman with, you know, roles and whatever. And she has, like, quite literally, like, a body perfected by science. Like, she has a perfect body,

and she has unlimited, well, not unlimited, but a huge budget. Yes. And this could just never be me. And I want to, you you know i want to commend her but this is what i always say like taylor swift her song paper rings i like shiny things but i'd marry you with paper rings like no you wouldn't because neither would i like when you're rich like be rich bitch like stop be rich so we can look up like and be like wow once again though she has a

wedding coming up i know this is a courthouse and again courthouse for your thing but she did like a whole photo shoot so everyone is treating it like a real wedding got it got it i mean again could not be me and if i had that kind of money right could not be me her husband is rich too i believe he plays in the nfl like we're all rich like let's start acting like it what do you say yes that's why that's why we want to watch you besides the fact that you are an incredible athlete right that's definitely part of the allure are you watching love is blind a little bit okay are you aware of the controversy going on with the hosts vanessa and nick lachey yes so people are really unhappy with them i feel like a lot of the criticism is warranted but it's definitely

been blown out of proportion and now they're like legitimate rumors circulating in our next story that Lauren Speed Hamilton and Cameron Hamilton who are a couple who got married on the first season who everyone is obsessed with and now have like a YouTube channel whatever that they might replace Nick and Vanessa Lachey after all the backlash okay they first of all I feel like their relationship was like completely just a PR relationship who not vanessa oh you think lord you don't believe in their love not really did you watch a season i watched like multiple episodes i feel like if you really watched the season in full like you would know how real it is like you think they're fully oh they're so in love they're really like perfect for each other

it's the true definition of like opposites attract he's like this nerdy scientist who's really quiet and she's just like effervescent outgoing yeah he's a sheldon and she is very much like this outgoing you know bubbly the the loud one and them together like perfect match like opposites attract perfection okay she's like loves fashion she's very colorful call me in a year from now when they're not together anymore okay i just want to say love is blind first season has has to have been it was during covid three years ago so there's and they got married a year the show was filmed actually a year prior so they've been married now probably four years okay i take everything i just said back i think you should okay fine deal you win that one a hundred percent so everyone is saying now that like they're gonna replace nick and vanessa lachey

because like people were hating on nick and van Vanessa for how they acted during the reunion. It was an unedited live reunion. I don't think it's really fair to judge someone. Cause we're used to watching like Andy Cohen, blah, blah, blah. And those are reunions that are filmed for 13 hours and then put into two

and a half or three hour episodes. Right. So it's not really fair to judge them based on that. And I thought people were like being, you know, blowing this thing out of proportion, but there is like a, an insider on love is blind who were saying there's always been whispers about replacing them with lauren and

cameron especially now after the live reunion special which was such a disaster on so many levels if netflix wants to keep their ratings up there has to be a big change i don't know i don't really believe this insider and i'm very here for cameron and lauren potentially being the host but well because they've lived it they've lived it but like being a host is not all like it's cracked up to be it's actually a skill you need to have and like just because you were on reality tv and you're an influencer that actually doesn't make you like vanessa lachey is a bona fide host like she was on trl or whatever her life her former life was explain to me just very quickly what exactly people are upset about she just she like she was acting like an

animal on the reunion like drunk right what do you mean like an animal so point of being like a moderator and a host is like you really have to be impartial you have to ask questions that push the the needle on both sides and she just felt like she came in with this like fucking vendetta and she was like going after people and it felt really personal she actually sent flowers to one of the contestants who she was like really hard on for like seemingly no reason and her job is to be hard on everyone but she was definitely taking sides she was just saying some like weird fucking out-of-pocket shit and she's giving an example please okay she was like they showed this video they showed this video of Jackie and Josh who are this couple but Jackie was actually engaged to Marshall and Marshall was sitting

at the reunion and she was like rubbing in his face all the things that like this new couple his old fiance and her new boyfriend were talking about

and it just felt like she was like trying to get him to cry like she was fixated on him yeah she was she went through that with everyone

she would like fixate on someone for 20 minutes and like ask so many questions be like well why'd you do that and it's like

another example this guy Micah didn't want to, I mean, sorry, this guy, Paul, didn't really want to date this girl, Micah, anymore because he didn't really feel like she had like this nurturing sort of maternal energy that he was looking for. And that's kind of like a mean thing to say.

So he didn't say it to her, but it ended up that being the reason. And she was like, well, why didn't you tell Micah that? He said, well, I didn't want to hurt her feelings. Like you can break up with someone and not like share everything that was wrong with them. You don't want to hurt her feelings. Like, you can break up with someone and not, like, share everything that was wrong with them. You don't want to hurt their feelings. You're breaking up with them.

She just, like, wouldn't let certain things go. And she was also just, like, acting crazy. Acting insane. Yeah. So this was unedited? Is that what you're saying? They did it live. Did you not hear about this whole big Netflix live thing?

Kind of. And I heard that she was, like. So at 9 p.m. on Sunday, like, two weeks ago, they were like, we're doing a live reunion, which is, like, crazy. Is it actually live? That's what I heard that she was like so at 9 p.m on Sunday like two weeks ago they're like we're doing a live reunion which is like crazy is it actually live that's what I want to know well it was supposed to be nine o'clock happens 9 15 9 30 nothing's happening Netflix like crashed they're tweeting oh we'll be up in 15 minutes we'll be up in 15 minutes then they ended up not even doing it they just filmed it and then put it up for everyone the next day but it was live and some people were able to watch it live.

Very few people. I actually weirdly was. My Netflix was letting me watch it live. But most of America and, you know, the world was not able to watch it live. So the episode that came out the following day, which was the same episode, was that one edited?

People said it was. Okay. But it really wasn't. I saw the raw thing. She really was acting crazy. I just thought she didn't do a good job. Did she? Okay. So it wasn't like under the influence. No, she wasn't i saw i saw the raw thing she was she really was acting crazy i just she didn't do a good job did she's okay so it wasn't like under the influence no she wasn't drunk she wasn't drunk is that what you read i mean i think i think i did read that somewhere and also when i just hear someone acting completely bizarro i think there's like

substances involved i know i feel like nick and and Vanessa are really grounded in terms of like Hollywood. I'm sorry. I have been scrolling TikTok lately. I don't know what fucking trend is happening, but all of the scenes of Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson from what was their show? Oh, newlyweds. Has your TikTok been blowing up with that shit?

It hasn't been blowing up, but I've always been targeted with that kind of content. But by the way, your TikTok is blowing up because you keep watching and engaging with the videos so the algorithm thinks you like it and they keep giving you more right so if you don't i went down a fucking rabbit hole i watched like 50 did you watch that show when it was like on back in the day i did i remember like her asking oh my god it's the chicken yeah it's actually chicken i do remember bits and pieces but we were younger we were young and I watched it because I love Jessica Simpson and I always have but I don't remember a lot of the content so whenever I get served clips I always watch it okay Nick Lachey borderline a

fucking asshole did you read Jessica Simpson's book I did not okay if you're into celebrity memoirs it's amazing every time I have a guest co-host, I literally just try and spend an episode pre-convincing them to read this book. A lot of it is about her marriage. And he was a prick. I mean, you can tell by the clip. Especially during that time, it was this weird transition where like

when they started dating, he was much more famous than her, 98 degrees. And then when they got married and they were living in that house, she was never in the house because she was so busy. And like 98 degrees was like kind of flopping. And he was going through this fucking crisis and he was so jealous and he was very competitive so that's what we're seeing play out that she gave us a lot of context in the book

for the show that's what we're seeing he was having like an identity crisis while his wife was like reaching new limits that he never and he was only getting opportunities because he was her husband and he was like this egotist. And it was toxic. And decorating the house behind her back. To regain his power. Decorating the house was like this huge storyline in that show. It's so funny. She was like, how can I decorate this house?

I'm never here. And that was a source of contention. He was like, well, you're never here because you're busy and I'm not. What a pussy. I know. He could not support a successful woman. So maybe he did some shit to Vanessa. A hundred percent. Blaming all of this on fucking Nick

I think that's a really fair and safe assumption I hate him How old is he? They're old They're like 40 I like how I say they're old It's like not that much older than us I want them to come back together 98 Degrees

Oh I thought you were gonna say Nick and Jessica No What is like 98 Degrees' song? I want I was just thinking that Let me look it up Like I want to pull up Spotify. Yeah, because I feel like they're such a recognizable band in terms of their name.

Why do I want to say it? Sometimes I run. I feel like that's NSYNC. Sometimes I hide. Sometimes. No, I feel like that's Britney Spears. Wait, what? When all I want is to hold you tight.

Treat you right. Be with you day and night. Actually, I think maybe you have a beautiful voice. Oh, do you not do that? No, I'm never singing along with you ever again. Oh, I have like an amazing voice. Okay, the number one. You should go on The Masked Singer.

You know, one time they asked me to submit an audition. Why didn't you? I did. Are you kidding me? I literally sat in my bedroom and was like like I really put my whole pussy in it and I never heard back your voice is insane their number one song is I do cherish you let's Oh yeah He was so hot Hot take

Like Nick Lachey Doesn't really have a good voice No but he was He is the reason Why in middle school I shaved my armpit You know what I'm saying Yeah were you one of those girls

Who would go to like A Jonas Brothers Or like a 98 Degrees concert And like shave your vagina Because you thought maybe Like it would be the night You lost your virginity Yes It was All American Rejects oh was that your band of

choice and fallout boy i loved the music from all american were you like an emo kid of 1000% i was oh beyond like so secondhand serenade what does that even mean the band secondhand serenade i don't know tonight will be the night that i will fall for you oh my god yes yes yes i think it's like a song about suicide which was actually really dark think about the music we listen to do you know the the song jumper from semi-charmed kind of life no from third eye blind i love wait what is the song called i wish you would step back from that ledge my friend i was like rocking after that oh that's definitely about suicide now yeah there I love Wait what is the song called I wish you would Step back from that ledge My friend

I was like rocking after that On the way to school Oh that's definitely About suicide Yeah all the songs Are about suicide Why were we singing that Why is it so poppy

And like upbeat Cause that was like The punk movement You know Very interesting Wow I was very much Like an emo kid

Fall out boy Like I was obsessed I also liked John Mayer Always My Chemical Romance Oh my god ben is obsessed with my chemical romance did you see that good charlotte performed at sophia ritchie's after party i did i did lifestyles of the rich and famous but i wouldn't have wanted

that song i know but what is good charlotte's like number one song i don't know that's like their best song i don't know what it is but i just that song i think started to just be playing too much on the radio It's also weird For like all these Rich and famous people To be singing Yeah yeah yeah Alright they're number one

Oh this is the anthem Throw all your hands up Yeah Okay maybe I don't Love Good Charlotte But like that's I would die to have Good Charlotte at my wedding

They're just like looped in With like the All American Rejects Like the whole Yes I'll keep you My dirty little That was my genre

Of choice I loved that Okay So I'm over Love is Blind Honestly I feel like We've been talking about it so much I was about to say I'm gonna have Peter Gabriel

Sing at my wedding Who's that? Even though I'm pretty sure He's 80 And I would have to like Life flight him Into my wedding Who is Peter Gabriel?

Your eyes Sing it The light The heat Your eyes I am How do you not know that about it's a classic so that's who you would have like seeing you down the aisle yeah but just that one song i would have i would have uh gwyneth paltrow sing me down the aisle singing the original song from country strong

home the world tried to break me i found a road to take me that's what i would have Gwyneth Paltrow? Yeah. You never see Country Strong? No. I didn't know Gwyneth Paltrow had a voice. Did you never see Glee?

Mm-mm. She played substitute teacher Holly Holiday on Glee. She was like a recurring cameo guest character. She was amazing. She actually can sing. And she sang,

she did a musical. Country Strong is basically like the, they made a country version of A Star is Born. It's like kind of the whole same concept. Oh. And she plays Kelly K. Country Strong is basically like the, they made a country version of A Star Is Born. It's like kind of the whole same concept. Oh. And she plays Kelly Canner,

who's this like big Reba type, like huge, who's really struggling. And she falls in love with this young guitarist and there's this new hot country artist on the scene, Leighton Meester. Love her. It's an amazing song with an original soundtrack. Love that.

And the final song before, spoiler alert, Gwyneth Paltrow kills herself is country is um it's called home coming home it's such a beautiful song and she sings it on on the soundtrack okay and what is this movie called country strong I'm gonna go home and watch it you have to watch it and fun fact I actually performed it and sang it at Jackie's wedding you're lying no Jackie wanted me to sing it for her mother-daughter dance and I sang it and it was like one of the highlights of my life and then I watched the videographer like footage and I sounded so fucking horrible I like actually apologized to Jackie for ruining the wedding

the thing is she had me sing after dessert and I was like black out by then so I don't even know what right down did you have stage fright at all no no you just weren't coherent it was friends and family I wasn't coherent you pulled a Vanessa and I was I was literally like thinking am I not gonna drink because they came up to me when we all set we all got into the reception room the wedding planner was like you're going after dessert i'm like after dessert that's in like two fucking hours like i'm not gonna not drink at my sister's wedding so it was just balls to the wall and so that was not your best performance no yeah i went to a wedding and the groom played the violin. That's so sweet. And it was the cringiest, worst thing.

At what point? Down the aisle? It's one thing to not have a great voice. It is another thing to butcher the violin and be like. And like. Wait, at what part of the wedding? Like during the ceremony? Before she walked down the aisle.

Oh, that's like weird too. Because like the ceremony is really about the bride. So to like make it about you, that's a little cringe. Yeah. And he had left the ring in the, like in the hotel. But also rich as fuck. So like it didn't really matter. And is there any chance these people are going to hear this?

Because you know everyone on the planet listens to the toast. I wasn't thinking about that, but I didn't name names. And you stand by what you said. That's always my defense. If I don't name names, then I feel like it's free game. If you don't name names, you can't name names. And you stand by what you said. That's always my defense. If I don't name names, then I feel like it's free game. If you don't name names, you can't be sued.

That's what I'm saying. That's a really good mentality. And if someone, and this has happened to me and I got in a lot of trouble, I even had like a couple sponsors pulled out. This is the very beginning of Sophia the Neff, okay? And I don't know why I'm re-bringing it up

so I lose them again. But I told this story about someone. Did not name names. Didn't really give that much info away. But, you know, my listeners. They figured out. They work for the FBI. They figured out.

And then this said person decided to go on a TikTok rampage. Rampage? Rampage. Rampage. Yeah. And made a four part TikTok as to how I'm the worst human being on planet Earth. You're absolutely going to have to tell me after who this was. I will. But also you wanted that attention, right?

Of course. Because no one, you know, like you got a few DMs. Right. Like you could have let it just die. Yeah. If you were that affected by it, you would have made it. I knows Right like you could have Let it just die Yeah But you blew it up If you were that affected by it Oh I'm sorry

You would have made it I know what this is I know what it is I know let's just You know what We'll just I remember seeing The four part

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And it's available to buy wherever you buy books if that's something you're interested in. I love to always pick a story about the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City when you're here because I know you're from salt lake and like i just like to get your take on things um jen shah's husband sharif was offered an appearance on this new season of real housewives of salt lake city to talk about you know everything that's been going on like do it like a like um a guy's night or whatever and he has turned down he does not

want to be on the show and he declined the the offer because him and Jen were not happy with the way the network treated Jen after her sentencing and I don't know what exactly they're referring to but Jen said in December 2022 that she would not attend the Salt Lake City reunion under legal advice but she also claimed that Bravo found this unsatisfactory and they expected her to discuss the storyline so Bravo was met at her for not showing up to the reunion even though she said she was doing it because it was in her best legal interest um and then the following month Andy said he hoped for a sit-down interview with Jen Shaw um he said this specific one-on-one interview oh sorry Jen said this specific one-on-one

interview was not a part of my Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reality tv contract and I promised myself and my loving family that I would not allow this portion of my life to be sensationalized or inaccurately conveyed. She elaborated I would rather remain silent and wait until I'm able to accurately share my story than continue having to compete with lies and misrepresentations about me smeared across headlines. I do have to say I actually respect her for not doing that one-on-one interview because they would have paid her a lot of money and she needed that money for legal fees and restitution that she had to pay back to her victims so it wasn't the smartest decision because she needs the money I think they paid

Teresa and Joe when they did that one-on-one interview before they went to jail seven figures and they needed that money because they owed like six seven figures they owed they owed the government like seven million dollars back then so like it helped and it was embarrassing and humiliating but they had to do it see i see this would be my thing is i guess the she can't legally she already got her sentencing so right right she so she has nothing to lose right so at that point i would fucking take the interview yeah not only is she turning down the one-on-one interview which would have been a big payday a smaller payday would have been sharif going on and talking and and so I don't know how they're expecting there must be in a lot of debt their mom who was like a school not her mom who

was like a school teacher had like a million dollars in savings that she saved her whole life like for her grandkids and she gave it to Jen for her legal fees so like Jen has crazy legal fees she has restitution she has all these expenses and so it's really not smart to like not because their income up until this point was Jen's fraudulent business which she can't do anymore Sharif is an assistant football coach for like a small college I don't think that's like a lot of money so I don't know what her plan is to pay back these bills so I don't know if she should just be turning down these opportunities because these opportunities don't last forever people move on uh I don't know

because okay Billy McFarland yeah was in jail for six years did you have him on your podcast I did that's crazy very interesting guy what was it like in person I I couldn't tell if what he was saying was genuine or not right right that's leaning towards not so much I know that's like a true definition of a con artist it's like you really never know what they're saying yeah it was very interesting also he texted's like a true definition of a con artist. It's like you really never know what they're saying. Yeah, it was very interesting. Also, he texted me like a few weeks ago and he's like, I just released this dating app. Would love for you to like be a part of it. Or like, I'm going to say yes to that on a date. No, no.

Would you ever? He has a girlfriend. Oh, but would you ever like just for the press? Billy McFarlane? No. Okay. Okay. No, but he was in prison.

I'm pretty sure for six years with Mike, the situation they crossed paths. Isn't that crazy? I, that is the most incredible shit I've ever fucking heard. That's when like being a fan of pop culture becomes so fun. And Mike was in there for tax evasion. Very interesting.

So Billy McFarlane is, he's chilling right now. You don't think Jen six years from now can release a book? Yeah, she definitely can. Can be back in the limelight? Like I think she can make money. I think she can too. But it's always good to strike while the iron is hot.

You really never know what's going to be going on in the world in six years. Like six years from now, will we really care? With Teresa, like she had been on our TV for 10 years. Like we were in love with her. Like we knew her, we knew her family and she only went away for 15 months. So we only had to wait like a year and three months for her to release the book and do an interview.

Jen, we've only known for two years. Jen's going away for seven years. Like, Oh my God. Will we still care in seven years about a woman we barely know? I don't know. Maybe.

It depends how good the fucking book is and it depends like what kind of content she's going to be putting out up until then like is she gonna be making videos in prison like we need how does the whole thing work because I am very confused I know Teresa was like posing for photos with her inmates and like selling them to people magazine when she was in prison I don't know how it works but I do believe when you're like a celebrity and you commit a white collar crime you go to to like more, it's, it's more of a camp kind of where like Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman, they go to special places where that's where the Chrisleys are right now. Right.

So maybe, you know, you can get a visitor with a cell phone. I don't know. I also have ended up on prison talk where prisoners in like real maximum security prisons are, you know, doing the renegade in their,

in their, in their in their cells because a part it's like a big ring in um you know you sell cigarettes you sell of course of course like dirty magazines they sell cell phones and you could buy a cell phone in prison actually they say it's very easy to get a cell phone in prison well joe exotic yes i'm pretty sure he is selling podcast interviews he's like charging people oh but you can also call yeah you can call you can call an inmate and I guess you can record the phone call and release it as a podcast if there's anyone listening to this podcast in prison and wants to come on the toast while Jackie's out maybe I'll get a an inmate co-host I've actually thought

about doing that I think it's a brilliant concept for a podcast you should start like a pen pal a pen pal you can write to inmates and stuff. Yes, you can. I also ended up on a side of TikTok where a lot of the women were talking about how they do like cosmetics and daily hygiene in prison. And it was actually very interesting how they put on eyeliner and how they made lipstick. So eyeliner, they would take lead pencils and like dip it in water. Okay. And literally make eyeliner out of that.

Would you care about wearing eyeliner if you were not in the slightest but i guess to establish a sense of normalcy a lot of women feel like wearing makeup makes them feel more like a participating member of society yeah even though they're actually not in prison um and then for lipstick they would take like sour candy and like melt the gummy it was crazy sometimes they would even take Dorito dust and make it into lipstick that I don't know I really think that would be the last thing on my priority list yeah I'd be like yummy food yeah maybe drugs just like get me just to pass the time you know yeah moonshine they like make alcohol out of like dirty bath water exactly oh I thought it was

toilet water you can make wine okay I've heard. I mean, I learned a lot watching Orange is the New Black. I've never seen that show. Oh, it was a good show. It was. Yeah. You don't need to watch like all the seasons. First one was good. Okay. Yeah. So I learned a lot from being on the prison side of TikTok and it was very interesting. And I hope Jen Shah, I don't think the facility Jen Shah is in requires these types of things because these are for like maximum security prison for like people who do like armed robbery and stuff um but it was very fascinating to be on that side of TikTok that is very fascinating I want to look into it by the way I have been arrested three times never I never went to prison I did go to jail I feel like I always bring this up with you by the way I forgot the last time you were on the podcast you told

that story and I need you to repeat it because a I forgot and b we have like a lot of new listeners so you you've been arrested and like gone to county like where they just hold you right so I've been arrested and just thrown in the drunk team right right and that's was what two times yes okay and then and the drunk take what do you do to sleep it off you uh there's not really a lot of sleeping because it's like a little bit terrifying because it's not just drunk people in the drunk tank. There's people that are coming off meth. There are people who, you know, are in there for a whole different host of reasons.

Yes. But then one time. And by the way, this probably sounds like I have a huge fucking alcohol problem. You might fucking spritz here. This is Utah where there is no crime happening. Right. And they're also really strict about alcohol in Utah because they're very LDS which is Mormon and so alcohol me underage it was like they're looking for you yeah so you were an easy target I was so then one of the time this

was the final time because they scared me shitless yeah i believe um i actually got booked in to the jail and they were really trying to scare me and teach me a lesson and they told me we have no idea when you're getting out because there's um a holiday coming up you could be in here for like a week and i had to do the jumpsuit the orange jumpsuit i had to do the bend over and cough they took out my extensions i was very upset about that. Did you have a cellmate? Yeah, I had a cellmate. What was she like? The most terrifying human being on planet Earth

to the point that when I first got into the cell and I was terrified, I was like, oh my God, I have a cellmate. I thought cellmate. Like, you know, like this is like your girl. Your partner. I can confide in this person. And I said, hey, she a bunk bed you were on she was no she was on the top bunk and I said hey um she didn't say anything to me by the way when I got in there but I said finally

I was like hi I um just like wanted to introduce myself I'm sofia and i'm really really scared like to be in here what can i expect and i will never forget her response which was it is way better in here than it is out there out there meaning what the world's like outside of jail oh so that i think that you know yeah kind of gives you some background as to where she came from. Also, she did come crawling down from the top of the bunk. I only saw her one time because I told her she could eat my food because it was so disgusting. What was it? I don't even remember.

But I remember having one bite and I was in shock. I think it was like white bread with like bologna, but it was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Did not taste like bologna. Just no. And it was very apparent. she was like a meth head. Like sores everywhere.

This big. She needed a sandwich more than you did. She did. She did. And then she just crawled back up and never spoke to me. That's so, like you have lived so many lives. Like that was some crazy shit. That was a really crazy time in my life

And so you have like a record technically I got expunged A couple years ago Does that mean you can vote? I can vote You can I can't get into I can't get fucking global entry though

You told me that you can't get global entry But so how can you vote? They're two different I don't know I'm a flight risk If I'm traveling internationally Is there anything else you can't do? No Okay that's good I they're two different I don't know I'm a flight risk if I'm traveling internationally is there anything else you can't do because no okay that's good so you were a minor when it happened so

that's why they expunged it um one of them so two of them were I was under 18 one of them I think I was 20 got it I was turning 21 the next day how fucked up is that oh that's tough it was your 21st birthday wow what a life you have lived yeah moving on um megan trainer is telling us things we don't want to know um on her podcast and i think she's just trying to uh put out some sort of deflectors because she's getting canceled right now for something she said about teachers did you hear about this about teachers yeah she basically was like going on a rant about school on her podcast and she said fuck teachers and every teacher is like oh my god how could you say that but yeah i mean so now she's putting out dumb press like this she's telling everyone she can't walk after nightmare sex with her big boy husband her words not mine the singer on her

working it working on a podcast told listeners that intercourse is so painful with her quote big boy husband she said she can't walk afterwards she admitted that she wishes um so painful with her, quote, big boy husband. She said she can't walk afterwards. She admitted that she wishes she could make her husband smaller. She said it's to the point where I'm like, is it all in? And he says, just the tip. And I'm like, no, I can't do it anymore. I don't know how to fix that, she said. She also let everyone know she's been diagnosed with vaginismus,

which is defined as involuntary tensing of the vagina. So that's what's going on with megan trainer do you think this is completely made up why because she wants everyone to think her husband has a big dick yeah um and just for views and attention yeah i could definitely see like her husband having a big dick like you never know it's always the unsuspecting ones from spy kids yeah sure he has a big dick I just feel, and I feel really strongly about this. Like some things are okay to, you know,

keep to yourself. So Claudia, if you remember, we were at a Spritz dinner. I was sitting next to you and I showed you a picture of the guy, this guy that I was dating at the time, his penis.

You did. And looking back, I think that's a very good sign that you don't really like that person to be sharing that kind of information with other people oh my god that's a really good point it's for real like you want you want to keep that to yourself protect it yes you're so right because i would never say something about this like about that exactly because it's so intimate especially when it's like a relationship or you're married Like that's such a good point So it showed like How much lack of respect

I had in that relationship You're so right And Megan's doing The same thing here Oh my god Look at you That is like a really good point I mean therapy

Yeah because it's one thing To like hype him up And be like he has a big dick But like You're also saying Like just sharing intimate Parts of your personal life And your sex life

That really is nobody's business Right Also Her vagina will just tense tense up she has vaginismus vaginismus involuntary tensing of the vagina i wish her mouth had that well she is like not having a good week and it's clear that like her publicists are putting this out to kind of you know fuck with her seo because she is getting fucking dragged because the teacher comment yeah the teacher is not a group you want to fuck with on the internet i have been there before and i just want to say i respect and love teachers but i do stand by what i said at the time

which was which was this and i don't want to bring it up but like we're bringing up all this shit that like so it was a story you know reese witherspoon has a brand called draper james and they did this really nice thing for like National Teachers Day where she was like go to the link in our bio and apply and give us your credentials and we're sending all the teachers free dresses okay and they said that they were going to do like maybe a thousand teachers or whatever and the post went viral and every teacher in America wanted to dress because it's really cute dresses perfect for teaching and like millions of teachers applied and of course it's really cute dresses, perfect for teaching. And like millions of teachers applied.

And of course it's a small brand. They can't give away millions. So they said like, oh, we've been overwhelmed. Like, sorry, we can't give out to everyone, but we're doing as many as we can. And the teachers got so mad. And I just said it when we were recapping the story on the toast.

I'm like, all right, well, you know what? She's trying to do a nice thing. Like sucks that like maybe the wording was confusing and everyone thought they were getting a free dress, but like, you're not. And like, calm down. Oh, the teachers fucking came for me that I didn't have their back. And I love teachers.

I respect teachers. I raise money for teachers every year on Amazon. Like, I love teachers. But I was just saying, I thought the teachers were being like a little out of control. It's a dress. It's a dress. It's a fucking dress. So then Trisha Paytas made the mistake.

She obviously didn't learn from my mistakes. You do not fuck with the teachers. Okay. So that is one group we do not ever. Keep mind keep that in mind i'm going to and disney stars disney yeah yeah why why am i doing this to myself okay continue so megan trainer can't have sex with her husband but she has a baby so she's obviously doing she has one on the way too well thank god she had a c-section correct Oh yeah Because of her vaginosis I guess

Because her baby Would come out like What toothpaste Because she would be tensing Right Because her vagina Is this small You would have to just

I don't know if her vagina Is small If her husband's penis Is just so big I'm just saying Thank god For the c-section See like now

We're talking about this When we shouldn't be But it's because She opened the door You know Well I talk about this stuff On my podcast openly But you wouldn't be Talking about this If she didn't bring it up No But I shouldn't be but it's because she opened the door you know well i talk about this stuff on my podcast openly but you're talking about this if she didn't bring it up no but i wouldn't be talking about megan trainer i'd like her as a person her music it just again played way

too many times on the radio i happen to like her music but i hear what you're saying it's not for everyone all right for the final story is the latest in the fast food industry because we just have to talk about food on the show wendy's is starting a new revenue stream and they're going to be selling their famous chili, but in a can now. And it's going to be in grocery stores. So their famous chili is typically sold hot at restaurants, but soon they're going to sell it canned from a grocery store. So they're partnering up with like a big conglomerate to bring the beloved chili into homes across the country it'll be a can for four dollars and 49 cents which is like kind of a lot for a can and it'll be hitting shelves this spring okay so when i think of wendy's the chili is not my you know what i

think of me neither but that's because i don't eat chili from wendy's but i think for a lot of people it is what they think of i think about their chili sauce oh maybe which is the most insane what is it incredible i don't know how to explain it they just have like a in a packet oh and it's their own chili wendy's sauce and it's incredible to the point that like i remember one time this is when i was living in utah so it's a little bit different I called my Uber Eats driver to confirm that he would get it I called the Wendy's that he was going to to make sure confirm that they would put it in the bag yeah they didn't but it's really good so now that they're like moving into grocery maybe they'll not be doing like Chick-fil-a sells their their famous sauces like in the condiments aisle maybe now this is

their foray into selling their chili sauce or any other famous sauces in the condiments aisle just chili and chili and a can I know I didn't know canned chili was a thing but then I thought maybe I'm just uneducated because I make my chili fresh I don't really I'm not a real chili person my mom's never made chili once in her life no my husband like made me fall in love with it he makes the best chili and I don't know if you know like kind of a core tenant of the toast is chili we talk about chili every day okay so i fucking love chili i love you you should come to my house and have ben's chili i want to it's the best it will change me it will change you and i don't like beans i don't even really like chili i literally ben makes of that and i freeze it and i eat it for months like all through the winter okay well now

i'm excited. I want to try it. It's so good. So maybe we should give this Wendy's chili a try. Wendy's chili like is known to be very good. I don't know how it's going to translate in a can. Yeah. I want to know Ben's perspective on Wendy's chili.

I don't think Ben's ever had it because we keep kosher for the most part. Right. But I feel like there was a time in Ben's life where he was like very relaxed with the laws of kashrut and I wonder if you ever had it he's not a chili like a fast food chili guy he's a very much like a Subway Jimmy John's you know sandwich type of guy he's going for a turkey Italian sub me too really I'm a sandwich girl what are you I fucking hate subs like I don't eat any of them what are your um thoughts what do you think is the best sub chain subway subway jimmy john's what's the other one everyone always goes to um jersey mike's jersey mike's i feel like there's other ones but i like subway

love subway what do you think about the smell in the restaurants it reminds me of my childhood oh that's sweet okay i love it okay i love it um all right those were the fast five stories you certainly didn't need to know any of them but um we're not done because it's wednesday and that's where we dole out interesting advice for interesting people and we do our best to help them okay great so we have three submissions from three different girlies in need if you guys want to write in remember the email account is deartoasters at gmail.com and keep it brief because some of you guys are just writing in things that are too long and we can't read them. Today's episode is brought

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That's www.primallypure.com slash toast. Use code TOAST at checkout for 15% off your order. All right, ready? I feel like you'll be able to help with this one a lot because honestly, I don't know what to say. Hi, ladies. I'm in desperate need of just some honest and anonymous advice. I'm a girl.

I'm engaged to a guy. We've been together for almost a decade. He's my best friend. We've been planning our wedding for the next fall. We are so excited. We're both in our 20s. Recently, I've had somewhat of a self-discovery. I made a new friend who's another girl, and I think I realized I want to experiment sex with a woman. I truly don't see myself ever being in a romantic relationship with a woman, but it's like the secret desire I've always had I've always watched lesbian porn is that normal do I talk to my fiance about it he's always been so supportive of legitimately everything but I'm scared to hurt him by being this honest what should I do okay a you liking lesbian porn and not you Claudia this person is completely normal.

I have heard that. It has nothing to do with your preference, your sexual preference in reality. Yes, I landed on a side of TikTok about lesbian porn. Don't ask. It's how I know everything. And they said that it's very common for straight women to like lesbian porn because lesbian porn fixates on the female experience in sex. When like hetero porn is just like big dicks. Like, you know, it's not really about the woman. Yes. say to on the female experience in sex when like hetero porn is just like big dicks like exactly

it's not really about the woman yes and you assume the woman knows what to do to the other woman right i personally watch lesbian porn when i watch porn usually thank you for sharing thank you um the second thing she wants to experiment but she's engaged yeah and she's afraid like admitting to her fiance that like she is potentially interested in a woman will like scare him he won't be supportive but I also feel like you know it also could be a slippery slope like I think being interested in a woman if you do it and experiment it could be something you just want to get out of your system and try or it could be you know your new lifestyle so i need to know how strong the urge is it's if she's writing into us it's it's strong it's very very strong yeah i would be upfront and honest with your fiance

because ideally like maybe he'd be down and like in the ideal scenario like it would be a threesome yeah right and obviously this is my toxic advice that i like to give along with the healthy just downplay the hell out of it okay babe every single girl goes through this like you know i should have gone through it in college but i didn't obviously i'm not really i just it's something i want to try i love you i'm obviously marrying you just just downplay it yeah but i do think You should like kind of Explore it Because you don't want To have regrets

Getting married Like this is an important time I think you should lean in Yes I agree Have you had An experimental phase Yes Oh yeah

100% When in college You have to answer If you don't want to Sorry No I realize that's like A rude question

Excuse me my podcast Oh yeah yeah Open book College Yes I've hooked up with Actually a few women I would consider myself Excuse me, my podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Open book. College, yes. I've hooked up with actually a few women. I would consider myself straight. Okay.

It was just like a fun thing. Got it. I don't know. I do consider myself straight. I want a husband. Yeah, but I think like sexuality is like so fluid. It's like a spectrum. It really is.

I don't feel like you even need to like label it. Like I'm not for labels. No, I don't't but i sometimes think about it you know right but like when it comes to dating you're not dating men i mean excuse me women got it i don't actively seek that right like on hinge it's just for guys exactly interesting all right i think we gave some good advice tread lightly but go for it you'll regret it if you don't hey guys love the show thanks for bringing so much joy to my daily commute. You're welcome. Here's the situation. I'm a teacher and I need some help on how to navigate a situation with my co-worker.

Every time she's on her period, not only does she announce it to us, but she leaves blood on the surfaces in the communal bathroom. She leaves blood on the toilet, in the sink, sometimes on the floor. She's told us that she uses a menstrual cup, so blood in the sink makes sense to an extent. How the hell do I approach this with her? There's only three of us that are in that bathroom and I've already checked with my other longtime co-worker so I know it's not her I barely know this woman and I don't want to offend her but I'm also not trying to clean up after a 35 year old woman's blood every month when I need to pee any help you can provide would be great you know I always say this with dear toasters

because sometimes it's okay and it's the right situation for an anonymous letter. An anonymous letter to her. Maybe like make a memo about the women's bathroom. Like maybe, okay, I got it. Make a memo that like claims it's from the janitorial staff. Yes, I was gonna say. Or the school administration and be like, please ladies on their periods,

please clean up after yourselves. We have found blood on this. And while, you know, we're happy to clean the facilities, this is not a part of our job distortion like write a really fancy memo and tape it to the back of the stall door that that's problem solved i love that do you think there's any way that they could get in trouble no by asking that no like don't leave your blood just make a thing around by the Just make a fake Laying around By the way Make a fake memo

Yes Leave it up for one day So that she sees it And then take it out You know she's gonna Rip that flyer off Go running out And be like

What kind of bullshit is this Really If by the way If being told to clean up After her fucking period Is gonna trigger her Then this woman Has other problems

And honestly It's better to know About them now Have you ever used A menstrual cup Never Have you no i'm a tampon for life i mean i want to try it the diva cup like the menstrual cup yes because one time i had a tampon stuck inside of me for a month that i was not aware of and because you just forgot it or it got stuck no i forgot i have no idea how it happened and then i thought maybe I had like a yeast infection or something. Cause it was problematic.

And I went and it was the craziest thing. All of a sudden she pulled something out of my vagina and I said, what the fuck was that? And she said it was a tampon. So when she pulled it out, did you look at it? I didn't, I didn't look at it because I was on my back.

Okay. But what did you see what it looked like? What does a tampon look like after it's been up your vagina for a month? I think it, like, it's not like it, like, disintegrates. Like, I'm just curious. I think it was just, like, taking a regular tampon out. And you know how lucky you are. You didn't get, like, toxic toxins or something.

Yes. Yes. That's crazy. So tampons do kind of scare me now there is an element about tampons like growing up i was not allowed to wear a tampon and then like in high school i was like bitch i'm sorry i need a tampon we like used to hide them from our mom i mean like she still hates that we wear them but like we're adults now so we get to do what we want um but there is like a it's not for no reason like a lot there is like a lot of crazy

shit about tampons tss and i'm sure more things will start come out i know that's what happens like we all start using something and then like years later it's like wait that was really bad i know but what am i supposed to use a pad well this menstrual cup what i have to bleed like on your couch right now no and like do you know like i'm supposed to shove that whole thing up my vagina they look crazy and i know they're like silicone so they like fold into like basically the size of a tampon but until i find something that is as convenient. And by the way, I'm supposed to put all my fingers on my vagina. Okay, Meghan Trainor.

You're so right. You're calling me out. Okay, moving on. Make sure. You're like, I'm just so tiny. Anonymous letter. Anonymous letter. Moving on.

Thank you, Sophia, for calling me out. Ready? Yes. Okay, this one's fucking weird. Okay, here's the background information she sent us i'm a first time soon to be mom i'm 30 my boyfriend of two years is 29 we live together and he's always been a p-jom p-jom means precious gem of a man precious gem of a man p-g-o-m okay and a woman is a p-jow okay i just found out that my boyfriend who i'm about to have a baby with

secretly applied to be a sperm donor two weeks ago. I saw the application in his email. We do not come for money. We often struggle financially, but we work really hard, which is why money is the only reason I can fathom this justification. However, I am so sad. My trust feels broken and I can't even process. I need advice on what to do and or how to bring it up. Am I blowing this up or is this grounds for breaking up?

He doesn't know I found out yet. Love you guys. Thank you so much. Sincerely, a sad and confused soon-to-be mom that's fucking heartbreaking and honestly you're not blowing it up you have literally that's a decision you make together that's crazy it's his body our choice like that's fucking weird a thousand percent and like you're a mom so this affects you because he's the mom of your child and like then you have potential step siblings out there like you have every right to be mad you should bring it up as soon as possible because if you're really not

comfortable with it I'm sure there's a way he can like get it back you know and tell him not to use it he doesn't consent anymore like whatever yeah um talk about it immediately it would be hard for me not to like blow up but I guess like you have to be measured if you want him to take you seriously but like you're totally justified in being pissed like I would I would not you don't need to be you can I think you can go crazy I know but then he's just gonna chalk it up like oh my wife is pregnant and hormonal and crazy like no you need to really explain why a this is a huge breach of trust b it's like beyond inappropriate when like you're having a baby together and like for him to not even that's confide in you to do that while she's pregnant is ballsy also i feel like sometimes men in particular will not actually take

you seriously or listen to you unless you're acting like the incredible Hulk oh you think during the fight i feel like they'll then just like chalk it up to you being crazy and not actually listen to what you say depends on what type of guy yeah you know your partner best like however is the way like to really get through his head how actually angry you are whether that's flying off the fucking handle or sitting down and like giving him a powerpoint presentation right sometimes that works too a powerpoint never hurts i want to know how you handle arguments with ben are you a powerpoint gal or like uh it depends on the argument okay so if it's like let's say i found something out and like i ruminated on it and i like if this was me i would be so measured i would like i because it would be really important to me

that he knows how angry i am and i'm not like being you know just crazy for no reason which i can be yep so for something like that i would be very tactical but other things like when we are fighting and like um and like it's not that important like i'm fucking nuts bitch like i'm so crazy i've absolutely done that and i like go to like a dark place and like i'll like say something i regret which is like something i'm really working on but not in therapy just like internally just like in actuality which i think is a better way to work on things okay and like in practice in practice okay yeah and i actually have gotten i've gotten way better like when i was we've been together

for a really long time and i was like really young i was like 18 when we met so in the beginning i was so fucking toxic like that is completely excusable i don't know why he stayed with me i was like such a bitch you guys have known each other since you were 18 that's insane but i agree with you i think for in this particular instance because she just saw it on the computer she doesn't know the background story right what if he just like wanted to know how much money there was out there and then was gonna ask right but it seems like he went through with it oh he the sperm is out the door and that's what i know let me maybe not into a vagina but i think it's in the bank okay she saw

the application okay maybe he hasn't sent an application well you know what time is of the essence here so you gotta act now act now but don't go in incredible hulk style unless you have all of the information and unless you think that will really like resonate with him whatever you know him best like whatever will scare him fucking shitless do that yeah and say that you are donating your eggs yeah and you already have yeah love that see how he feels and there's 20 mini me's of you yeah see how he feels and tell him you did it for free so then he'll be like wait you sold your eggs how much money is that because eggs are like charity it was charity baby yeah eggs are like 20 round of pop it's crazy be like no i was just trying to help some people out.

Yeah, like I love to see families flourishing. All right, that was Dear Toasters, our advice segment. If you ever want to write in, it's deartoasters at gmail.com. Sophia, we love having you here. Thank you so much, Claudia. This was actually very, very, very fun. Actually? No, I knew it was going to be fun, but this was more fun than I even anticipated.

If you guys liked what you heard, which I don't know how you can check out Sophia's podcast, Sophia with an F you drop episodes every week. What day do you drop? Let me guess. Tuesday, Thursday, but Wednesday night. Got it. So Thursday. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast.

Tomorrow's episode will be audio only with Jackie and Friday's episode will be audio only with Shannon Ford because we are headed to Palm Springs for stagecoach and Shannon and I are going to be podcasting. Do you know Shannon? I have never met her. I've heard incredible things. I am so jealous you're going to Stagecoach. Oh my god. Do you want to come? I was invited. But you're going to Vegas. Why? I don't know. I'm pissed. You should podcast with Shannon. I want to. I want to meet her really bad. She's so fucking cool and fun and like so pretty and you would think she would be like a bitch because she can be because she's literally a model you never met someone nicer she seems extremely funny so fun to go out with too oh yes I want to meet her okay um thank you guys so much for listening to the toast the millennial morning show where we

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