The Toast - Face Card is Lethal with Lexi Wood: Wednesday, May 28th, 2025

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

In today's episode of Jax and Friends, Jackie is sitting down with Lexi Wood from Bravo's Summer House to talk about her first season on the show, how she met the cast, lessons she's learned ...throughout this past year and what's next for her.The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Lexi Wood (@lexiwood) The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) Lean In: https://www.flow.page/leaninThe Camper & The Counselor: https://www.thecamperandthecounselor.comMerch: https://www.shoptoastmerch.com/The Toast Patreon: patreon.com/thetoast Girl With No Job by Claudia Oshry: https://www.girlwithnojob.com/book See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The Fast Five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. I am so excited today is a very special episode because I am sitting down with Lexi Wood from
Starting point is 00:00:32 Summer House. Woo! We talk about you all the time, at least once a week when we recap Summer House. And this was your first season on the show and you're one of our faves. So when I was in New York, I just had to come and talk to you because we're in the middle of the season. Things are really reaching like a tipping point. And The Reunion actually airs tonight,
Starting point is 00:00:48 so we'll probably get answers on like a lot of the things from this season. But I'm so excited that you're sitting here. You're so sweet. It's so nice to meet you. You're literally the same like from TV and from Instagram, which is always like, I feel like the nicest thing you could say to someone. It's especially this day and age that's so nice.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah. So welcome to the show. I'm so excited to be here. Do you listen to the toast? You don't do it? Of course. So many people will send it to me and be like, oh my gosh, they're talking about you. And I'm like, eh.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh my God, the girls. The girls. No, I love it. I love just like the chat. Oh, that's what we do, chit chat. So that's what we're gonna do. And I wanna get to know you even more cause you were on this first season of Summer House. I feel like it was actually probably a year ago right now,
Starting point is 00:01:30 or maybe later in the summer when we all, like the audience, heard that you were going to be on the show. I remember Claudia and I reported on it. I think there was even like whispers that you had like, were seeing Jesse or like that you guys had connected and we were just like living for it. I feel like you were such a great casting in theory and then also in practice. Thank you so much. Wait, that actually means so much to me. Yeah, I definitely
Starting point is 00:01:54 feel like I think it was the first weekend that we were in the house that everybody was like, oh, wait, Lexi is in the house. Yeah. So how did it come to be? Because before you were on Summer House, like you are a model, you are a very successful influencer. So I feel like sometimes when someone like that goes on the show who has a name, they actually wind up being kind of disappointing. And it's like, but then sometimes you pick someone obscure
Starting point is 00:02:14 and it's like, who is that? So that's why I felt like this was such a great casting in both like in the season as well. So how did you come to the show or did the show come to you? So I knew Amanda from like a couple years ago. We ended up being like at an event together, sitting next to each other, and me, Paige, and Amanda
Starting point is 00:02:33 had been following each other on Instagram. And so I ended up meeting Amanda like in real life finally, and we just connected immediately. It was so fun. We like flew out to the Hamptons together, and then we sat next to each other all dinner, then drove back to the city together and where we like live in the same neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So we just connected immediately. And then she actually asked me, she's like, would you ever go in Summer House? And I was like, um, I don't know, just because she was the only person that I knew at the time. And so I was like, let me like try to meet, or not try, just like, let me see if the universe kind of like puts me in the path of other people.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And then I met Paige officially during Fashion Week. We sat next to each other and again, it was just like great. And then I met Sierra through mutual friends. I was like, okay, at least I have three familiar faces and Kyle, obviously, because Amanda, I had like talked to Kyle on the phone and stuff. So I was like, you know what, I feel good. I feel good. At least on the phone and stuff. So I was like, you know what, I feel good. I feel good. At least I know some more people.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And then when I got asked by casting, they were like, would you send in like a casting tape so we can get to know you? And it was, it's actually a lengthy casting process. Like just because you know somebody on the cast, like it does not mean you're gonna get on at all. So it really works that way where like someone comes on because they're someone's friend, not because of casting?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, that was my situation. They always ask you, like, in casting, like, who do you know in the Bravoverse? Right. And thankfully, I did know a couple other people. Oh, who else do you know? Like, Jessel. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, like, Rebecca McGough. I know, like, Uba DM'd me the other day. I think Uba and'd me the other day. I think Uba and I had met at a fashion show. And then, who else? I'm trying to think. Just like you kind of, being in the industry,
Starting point is 00:04:12 like I'm sure you know, you run into them all the time. Yeah, you guys are like all doing a lot of the similar things. Yeah, so I kind of was familiar with other people. And then, yeah, so in my experience experience that's how it was. Like I knew I had some familiar faces going in. But yeah, just because like you know somebody that the casting process is still like so in-depth they really like get to know you and like really see the vibe. So it really has to be a match between like
Starting point is 00:04:37 knowing people and then casting, like agreeing and then there you are. Yeah. And I feel like a lot of part of your genesis of coming on the show was Bailey as well. Yes. Where? Don't say Bailey. What happened to Bailey? I heard rumors. I think we all like heard rumors, but they actually don't seem to like make sense to
Starting point is 00:04:56 me. Yeah. That like she was coming back to the city and like telling people during the week and like talking about what happened on the show. Okay. Yeah. Because I was like, what did you hear? Yeah, that's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Okay. That she was like, kind of just like breaking that code of conduct. Yeah, so I didn't know that. I know that she had a boyfriend in the city and she was just like, she was not telling the house and like hiding us from her stories. So she was like keeping two very separate worlds. Yeah, and then also I had heard like she had a boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So it's like, why, like sure, you can have a boyfriend on the show, but it's like more interesting if you don't, especially if you're like a new person in the house. I think it was mainly like, if she, if she was just like, yeah, I have a boyfriend. I think all of us would be like, amazing, bring him around like, let's hang. But I think it was the fact that she like kept it so separate
Starting point is 00:05:37 and like would hide us from her stories if she posted him. Like she just kept it so like, she was lying. Yeah, so I think, I think everybody everybody I think she just stopped coming and honestly I think they're still together and like I good. Yeah, I'm like No, you know what you maybe come with her. Do you know her? So we had just met like a couple weeks before okay Yeah, so we weren't we didn't know each other too much But I loved it when like having another girly in the house like a newbie
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, for sure somebody that I feel like Jesse and West came in together and like having two boys come in I feel like was so good for them. Yeah, it's also excited to have another girl Come in and just like in the morning we text and make do you want to meet in the kitchen like get coffee? Because obviously we're new to the house like we also wanted to respect that that's that's everybody else's house for yeah so many years now Yeah, um, so yeah, I definitely like high school a little bit where it's like you feel like a freshman that that's everybody else's house for so many years now. Yeah. So yeah. Definitely like high school a little bit where it's like you feel like a freshman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Like they're seniors and that's just an intimidating dynamic no matter who you are. Yeah. And then our bedrooms are downstairs. So it's kind of like Bailey's room, which was now Emeril's room, and then the kitchen living room in my room. Got it. Yeah. So we were kind of like downstairs.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Everybody else was upstairs other than Kyle and Amanda's master bedroom. But I, yeah, it was... Got it. Yeah, so we were kind of like downstairs, everybody else was upstairs other than Kyle and Amanda's master bedroom, but I, yeah, it was... Got it. Okay, that makes sense. That like kind of tracks with what we saw and also, um, Emeril being a new cast member as well. What's your take on, um, Emeril's revolving door? Honestly, okay, so I think one, that's kind of like what a share house is, right? It's like, you're always gonna have that one person
Starting point is 00:07:07 that's just a flirty guy that is gonna be bringing people in and out. I think that maybe he underestimated just maybe like what it is. Like I think all of us being older, we aren't necessarily, it's not a frat house. So I do think that maybe he was proceeding, like it's just a regular kind of like,
Starting point is 00:07:27 oh, we're all doing this. But I think because there are relationships in the house, there are people that were in long distance relationships, there are people that are just like wanting to have a fun summer with their friends. So I think that he may be underestimated, but he's honestly such a sweet guy. And I do feel like he, I also love, though, that he fully owned.
Starting point is 00:07:47 He's like, this is where I'm at in my life. Like, I had long-term relationships, and right now, I want to just be... with everyone. Yeah. Which I actually, I think it's admirable for him to just own it like that. Yeah, I feel like the part,
Starting point is 00:08:01 it's like that is what a share house is, and like that's what you would hope people do, is like meet people. It's like, but he's like on a TV show, feel like the part that's like that is what a share house is and like that's what you would hope people do is like meet people. It's like, but he's like on a TV show and like you're here to entertain and like we don't even get to see the faces of the people. Not that I'm like dying to. I don't even think I saw them. I didn't even see that many faces. Why do you think they cut out like not even blurred the face? Like they literally wouldn't show us a body part of the people that he brought home, which is like new. Yeah, that's so interesting. I've actually never thought about it. I think it's maybe there was just a lot There was so they were maybe just like look at editing wise. It's just easier to just cut them all the way out. That's funny
Starting point is 00:08:36 It's honestly like been a really funny bit of the show, but it is like a little Random. Yeah, I want to talk about you and get to know you a little more because it is so interesting how you like came from this world a little bit before going on reality TV. Did you ever think you would go on, like what was your thoughts on like going on TV before you did it? It was funny. I've never really thought about it. I remember a couple of years ago, somebody just in general
Starting point is 00:09:00 was like, would you ever want to have a show like alone? And I was like, oh, like interesting at the time I was like, no, um, just things in my life. And obviously I would want to share like my family and my friends. And my dad's a firefighter. So he's like, well, I can't go on it. My friends are like normal. Like my one friend's a, um, she's a secretary to high school. Like they're, yeah, they're just normal people. So I was like, okay, if I can't share a lot of my life,
Starting point is 00:09:28 why would I do it solely? So then when Summer House kind of came, other than that, like I'd never even thought about it. And then when Summer House kind of came around, I was like, oh wait, this might be fun because I do love being vulnerable. Like I think being vulnerable and having the confidence to say insecurities and connect with people
Starting point is 00:09:45 is honestly so powerful. I was so excited. I was like, this is probably like the platform where I feel like my heart can flourish the most. And I can be the most open and the most like, yeah, vulnerable and authentic. And so I was really excited. And I also feel like it was cool
Starting point is 00:10:00 because I do have so much to share. I have had a 17 year career in modeling and influencing and I do feel like that's like a different avenue of the industry that I hadn't tapped into. Also, like the two worlds really compliment each other. So how has being on the show affected your established career that you're doing already? Like, have you seen more of what you're already doing
Starting point is 00:10:22 or like a bunch of new stuff? It's funny, I feel like it's pretty, still like consistent with what I was always doing. Obviously like there's other like little things that are more like household things and companies or restaurants or whatever that have reached out to me since. But honestly, I've just been doing the same kind of things
Starting point is 00:10:40 like I'm coming out with a collection with Hanky Panky that I've been working on for two years. So it was way before the show anyway. So I do feel like obviously it's given me more of a voice, which has been so nice because modeling is very, you are just a one-dimensional person, which I do feel like I've been really pleasantly surprised with being able to be like, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 00:11:04 like it's really cool that people can see that I'm not just one dimensional. Yeah. No, and I also think, and I think I said this in one of our recaps, your personality is so, it's kind of unexpected based on what you do and how you look like, you're so bubbly and you're so sweet. And you could be, get away with being
Starting point is 00:11:19 the world's biggest bitch if you wanted, just so you know. Wait, first of all, thank you so much. Yeah, I really appreciate that. Wow, that's face card. I never thought about that. And I said that to Claudia, not because I'm not on TikTok. She's like, her face card is off the charts. I'm like, yeah, I think I know what you mean. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Cause I watch one, watch what happens live. Also you've been on two times this season, right? And yet, so that's also, we get to see a different side of people on the show when they go on watch What Happens Live, because it's like totally live and you're like put on the spot. And you just like have such a great presence. No, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I definitely feel like it's been really nice again, just because it is very one dimensional. And honestly, I've never really like, it's so funny in modeling, maybe it's just my experience in modeling being so young when I started in the industry, but I've never actually thought about like, this sounds so stupid, but like my looks or anything.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I've always been like, with modeling, it could come down to a freckle. Like you might not get the job over like, you have a beauty mark that they don't want there, type thing. And so I've never actually thought about it and I always think like, oh, like I want to go to set and make a friend.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I want to show my personality. Like I know that there's so many beautiful people in the world. Like I want to just be like a good person where people are like, wait, that's like my girl. Like it's like a soft place where they can land. I never wanted to just be like, oh, like I'm a model. Yeah, well thanks. Yeah, I'm like being a model, my mom always says this to me.
Starting point is 00:12:47 She's like, your looks are the least interesting thing about you. And that, to me, she's just said it forever. And that, to me, has always meant so much, because modeling is obviously about your looks. But it can, like, once you're in it, you're like, oh, but it's actually not. Like, it's about the energy that you you bring and being able to make friendships and just Be like a good person on set that people want to travel with and work with for 12 plus hours a day Yeah, totally and I feel like especially now in especially as like modeling has turned into influencing
Starting point is 00:13:15 Yeah, you do more on camera work in general like even Instagram stories like where people get to see your personality like it definitely pays Off to have one. It's funny because I feel like I actually got popular on Instagram because I used to go live on Instagram every single morning when I was getting ready. I'd be like disheveled in my PJs drinking my coffee, like either fresh out of a shower, like still wet or like in my big men's PJs. And I would just like sit and have girly chat
Starting point is 00:13:42 and I would just be like, let's get ready together. Let's drink coffee together. And I would go live for like three hours every morning. Oh wow. When was this? Probably in like right before, actually I guess it was a couple of years before the pandemic. Okay. So I, you've had a big following for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I would just kind of do that every single morning. Then I remember I went into the pandemic
Starting point is 00:14:05 with like, I think half a million followers. Yeah. And just from literally going live every morning. Wow, that's kind of like a reality show anyway. Yeah. So I do feel like that's like what you're, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. Yeah, and I loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Like I would always be like, that's why I feel like interviews and stuff, I've had so much fun. Cause that's almost where I love the conversation. I love the back and forth. I love. Yeah. And you the back and forth. I love... And you do a podcast also. Yes, I have a six to nine podcast with my mom and sister.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, it's so fun just having that chat with your family. I mean, you literally know firsthand. I know for sure. You get so much. I feel like you get a lot of flack on the show from your boyfriend and from other people in the house for like always being with your mom and your sister. As someone who is always with my family and always wants to be with my family, and I'm talking about people in the house for like always being with your mom and your sister as someone who was always with my family and always wants to be with my family and when I'm not with them, like I'm telling them what I'm doing or I'm talking about them with the
Starting point is 00:14:51 people that I'm with. Like I just can't relate to people being so like shocked and gooped and gagged that like you're with your family all the time. Yeah, I feel like it's an asset. Like to me, I'm like, I'm sorry, the most successful people in the world, Taylor Swift, her family manages her. Like there's so many people in the world that actually work with their family.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And for some reason, yeah, people were just like, oh, she's always with her parents and her family. But I think that's a nice thing. Like people say it like an insult. I'm like, where's the insult? It's also funny because I feel like guys specifically, they always start a relationship, they're like, well, I want a girl that's close to family.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I want a girl that's driven and all this stuff. Then they actually hang out with you and they're like, she's too driven. She hangs out with her family too much. She's too busy. What? Yeah. Like, did you feel like that when you met your husband?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Oh, definitely. I'm one of those people that's with my family too much. And yeah, I don't know. I guess if you're not someone that's like that, it like is jarring, but it's like, well, if I wasn't with my family, then I would be with my friends. They just happen to be the same people,
Starting point is 00:15:54 but like still it wouldn't be you. Yeah, I'm like, look at, I love my friend. It's still like me time, you know? Yes, I think me time is so important. Yeah. Like it's so pivotal to even just like your soul Recharging and I feel like sometimes relationships can be like obviously so hot and having you're so excited and like all this stuff But I also think it's so important to have like days apart from each other. Yeah, I'm like, especially in the dating phase
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah, you have to miss each other. Yeah, like I definitely like cabin fever is a very real thing Like even though something sounds like a good idea when you're so close together, it starts to go sour a little bit. You have to make yourself scarce. It's definitely like a game, but I actually wanted to talk about your relationship with Jessie obviously is the main story of the season.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And as much as people, I know people say that you guys are in a good match and obviously at the end of the day, it didn't work out. Okay? I really saw in the beginning, like, how much you guys liked each other. I think on a personality level, like, it is a good match, because you guys were having a lot of fun, but I just think, in terms of what people are willing to change or do to be in a relationship,
Starting point is 00:16:59 you guys weren't matched in that sense. But I was really rooting for you guys in the beginning. And like, what was it like in the beginning? Obviously now it's gone south on the show, it's gone south in real life. I feel like in the last few weeks, you guys went from not really talking about each other to now spilling the beans on the relationship.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Is that because you wanted to give viewers like the chance to think maybe you're still together? Like just to not spoil the show? It's funny, this being my new season, like my first season, I'm new to like everything. I think, so they'll send us out on almost like, not like a press tour, but like, I guess like a press tour. It's like, they kind of stagger it.
Starting point is 00:17:39 So everyone gets to have their voice, everyone. But because I'm new, obviously I'm not gonna be the first person that they're sending out. Right out of the gate. So voice, everyone. But because I'm new, obviously, I'm not going to be the first person that they're sending out. So they exactly. So they just kind of like waited weeks and weeks. I don't know what the thought process was behind kind of how they're sending people out and where they're sending them to and who's reached out. And I don't know all of that. But I know for me, they, they weren't even putting me in front of press for weeks and weeks and weeks until things like go south on the show and now you're gonna talk about them yeah and I think they so now it just seems like a lot of me
Starting point is 00:18:16 talking but it's honestly like I think everybody actually has had these opportunities yeah and I think obviously because there was so much going on in the relationship all summer, it just feels maybe louder. Yeah, but like it's now him too, and now like everyone in the house, like everyone's sort of like getting in on it as we watch things sort of like dissolve on the show. But you had said early in the season, which I like kept talking back to even when he was like
Starting point is 00:18:42 not being the greatest. I'm like, I felt so bad because I'm like, she's gonna get her heart broken. But you said, even if I get my heart broken for jumping in too fast, that's how I am. I'm a romantic person. I wouldn't not do that, even if I know that it's going to end badly. Do you still feel that way or have you been hardened a little by this? It's funny. I am so the type of person that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I would rather have loved. Yeah, rather have loved and lost. Yeah. I will say, I think watching it back, like when you're in the moment, it's so mutual, right? Like it's just like you're, that's the camaraderie. It's like going back and forth. But then I think watching it back, it is such a special, unique situation where then you do see things said behind your back. You do see, and then you're like, oh, well, if I had that knowledge, I would have made other decisions.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And then it does make you think like, oh, real life, you just don't have the knowledge. You just don't know. And like, you're not being recorded. So they could have been talking about you the entire time, but because you're not on a reality show, you just didn't know. So I think for me, it's not that I've been hardened, because that is one thing I've, even after the season, I've had people tag me and things being like, well, if Lexi is like going through this,
Starting point is 00:19:55 like I don't want to date. This is awful. Like I'm watching this girl just like kind of get walked all over and all this stuff. And I never want that to be the message. Like I want people to date and love and get their heart broken. Cause at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:20:11 that's very pivotal to like human growth. And I think being in that moment, like feeling that love is so special. And it's so rare to actually have somebody that like cares about you as much as you care about them. And like that, I don't know, it's like magical to me. And it's so rare to actually have somebody that like cares about you as much as you care about them. And like that, I don't know, it's like magical to me. And it still is. I definitely think that I learned a big lesson of maybe don't trust people so much right away.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Because I put a hundred percent trust in until somebody breaks it and then it just starts to dwindle away. Whereas I think that I should probably let people build my trust instead of just kind of being like, here it is, here's my heart. I don't know, I kind of like the first one. I definitely feel like you have building trust sounds like the right path. But I do feel like people deserve, especially like, you know, good faith people who you like,
Starting point is 00:21:00 like they deserve your trust until they've lost it also. I do think that. And I feel like punishing the next person for how Jesse acted is also not right. And then you see people going into relationships with like baggage and walls and they can't bring them down. Yes. I always say you can't bleed on people that didn't cut you. Right. And like you can't do the same thing over and over and expect for a different result. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Conflicting messages. Yes. And I'm somewhere in the middle. Yes, exactly. And I do feel like my person's out there. And I've been actually so lucky. I have some of the best exes ever. Like I'm still- Insaneness and handsome. We know.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And I'm still friends with a lot of them. And I'm just like, I was so lucky to have been like cared by from you. It didn't work out, but like I want the best for my exes. I'm like, you are such a great person. And like I am just so happy for them when they move on. I'm so happy for their life to kind of like flourish and find their person. And I know that my person's out there and I know that my exes also support me in finding my person because we do see each other's hearts on such a different level.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And yeah, I just feel like I've had such a great experience with exes now. Now not so much. Having a situation like- Maybe one day you'll get to that place. Yeah. And look, I think at the end of the day, I unfortunately, maybe as my Libra cusp, I think at the end of the day, I unfortunately, maybe it was my Libra cusp, I think people having accountability is so important. And if I do anything, I would love to take accountability.
Starting point is 00:22:36 If somebody actually tells me 100%, I will take accountability. But I think I'm very just like indifferent now. Obviously, it's been so long too. There is more wounds when you're watching and it kind of gets brought up and you're like, oh my God, like that's... Like almost every week, it's been almost like a stab to the heart in a different way.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Right. I wanted to ask you, like when you're watching these episodes for the first time, do you... And some of it you've heard from people, like the toast, like you heard about things, so you were prepared. But like when you're watching it, do you feel like it was actually worse than how you were told it? Like even the flirting with Sierra, like it was made out to be less or more than what it actually was. I think everything was more, but I also think don't think that that's anybody's
Starting point is 00:23:21 responsibility. Oh no, no, no. It's just like how it it comes down the pipeline. And it's like, you could say they were flirting, but there are degrees of flirting. So it's like, or sometimes someone might say they were flirting and then you might watch it back and be like, actually, I think they're just being friendly.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Like, not to feel. Exactly. Like, it was more. Yeah, I think there was a lot of things that I kind of like realized that were a lot more. Again, I do feel like I am in a space where if somebody takes accountability, okay, perfect, let's like, will he have access to me
Starting point is 00:23:50 like he did and like access to my like softness and my heart like he did? No, but also that's okay. Yeah. That's okay, not everyone has to like love me so much. Not everyone has to like, I totally respect that everybody can have different tiers of access to you. And he's somebody that will have to, like, build.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And that's a journey if he wants to take it or not. But either way, we have mutual friends. And I really, really respect that. Outside of the summer house? No, in the summer house. In the summer house, okay, okay. I'm like. Yeah, no, we have mutual friends.
Starting point is 00:24:24 And maybe like a couple now that like, we've been in the same house. Okay, okay, I'm like. Yeah, no, we have mutual, and maybe like a couple now that like we've been in the same circle now for the last year outside, but like I respect like we have the same friends. I don't want our friends to be in the middle of it. I don't want, like that's not fair. And as long as he can take accountability, again, he won't have access to me like he did,
Starting point is 00:24:40 but like, let's move forward. You could start like from scratch in a different direction. Yeah, again, if he takes accountability, because that's just very important to me. And I do feel like, again, we have such a rare, special thing where we're able to watch back and learn so many lessons. And I just hope that he's also taking that opportunity to learn lessons like I have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But yeah, I never want it to be like weird for anyone else in the house or other mutual friends or anything, because that would suck for everyone. Yeah. Like that's not fun. No, that's not fun. It's funny because so much of like your situation with Jesse sort of like is a turbocharged version
Starting point is 00:25:21 of Sierra and West. And like, so like we see it all like play out but just like in fast forward a little bit. Yeah. So yeah, they are at, at least from what we're seeing, they're at the stage of like it not being fun in the house, but maybe just like everything else,
Starting point is 00:25:32 you'll accelerate that stage as well. Yeah. And I think everybody is like, there's so many like different versions of everyone, right? Whether it's in this space or even just like in your friendships in real life. It's like different people are different people to different people, what my mom always says. And she's like, so who somebody is going to be to you or how your relationship is going to play out or it's all so different.
Starting point is 00:25:55 How you react to something might be different, even though it could be so similar. You could also handle it so differently. There's perception. There's all of this stuff. And I feel like I am just somebody that look at again, you loved and you lost. Yeah. You know, like at the end of the day, again, yes, I will call you out 100%. I will call everyone out, whether it's on a reality show or not, because I care about humans and I think, and I care about the growth of humans and vice versa. I really genuinely hope that people care about the growth for me and we can all have a great kiki together and take everything as a growing lesson.
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Starting point is 00:31:18 of being on TV, having everyone watch it, having your heart broken, like learning hard lessons, like do you see yourself now as like just so different in so many ways? Yeah, I definitely think so. And I honestly like it in a lot of ways because again, I don't wanna be the same as I was last summer. I don't, like I want every summer, I want every month, I want every week for me to be growing.
Starting point is 00:31:39 And I do feel like I obviously am very different from like that naive girl that walked into the house that first weekend just like, hey guys. I do feel like you learn so much, and especially in this space, I was so new, and I'm still so new. I still am not brilliant in this space, but I'm learning this space, and I'm learning,
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm so lucky because we do have the OGs like Lindsay, and it's like she's been in it for so long. I will never have the knowledge that she has. And I love that. But also, yeah, I'm not gonna be that same girl that walked in last year. I do have a little bit more confidence and even just familiarity in the space and with the people.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Right, and we were saying before this, even someone who comes on who is gonna, he's like, I'm gonna be, I'm not gonna give any of myself, like I'm not gonna be vulnerable, I'm just gonna like, you know, get through the show. That's not interesting either. So it's definitely a fine balance between the two. Well, I feel like it's like when you guys
Starting point is 00:32:39 probably started your podcast, it's like, what the heck are we doing? No, yeah. What is going on? Who's gonna watch this? Who's gonna watch this? Like what's going on? And we've learned so many lessons, but you can only learn them the hard way. Someone could tell you, be this way, do this,
Starting point is 00:32:52 and it just doesn't permeate until you learn the hard way and you're like, oh damn, okay. Also, I feel like if it's not authentic, then somebody could be like, you should be like this, you should handle this like this. It's not gonna come off genuine if I'm just listening to every single different person telling me who I'm supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I do feel like even in modeling, I always felt like a box of somebody else's beauty standard or somebody else's idea of what they want on that shoot. And that was my job. And I loved doing that. And I still do, I love going to set and being a version of what somebody else has in mind. I feel like it's like acting to an extent Yeah, and I love that but I also feel like in real life and in like the reality space and everything like I can't listen
Starting point is 00:33:37 To if somebody's like, oh don't date that guy, right? It's not gonna end well. No. Yeah, were they right? Yeah Oh, don't date in your friend or... I don't see a world where you and Jesse have feeling the way that you did about each other the first weekend. Like, don't give it a shot. And I'm always gonna give love a shot. Right, so that's why when people are like, it was a big mistake. There was no other way for it to go down.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Like, you guys really liked each other and you were really cute and happy for a month. One thing I wanted to ask you is when we were recapping the season finale, or maybe the episode before that, when you were saying about, like, talking about, like, things that you realized about Jesse, and you were saying, like, that you realized that he had told you, like, a lot of half-truths
Starting point is 00:34:19 or, like, omitted things. Were there things outside of the show that, where that happened outside of what we know, which is obviously, like, the toe, which one toe is enough to end the whole relationship? So you're fine even on the count of the toe but like taking that out were there other things where it was just like he's just not being truthful about random shit yeah I think first of all even with the toe situation I am actually a very forgiving person I forgave him for so many different things
Starting point is 00:34:43 because I do see the best in and people things because I do see the best in people. I want to see the best in people. Should I have broken up with him after the doubt? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I'm just like, I do want to see the best in people. I really hope that when people feel that and be like, wow, this person, I did something to hurt this person. They're still giving me the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Right. I would hope that then they would want to like rise to that and be like, you know what? Yes. A hundred percent. I'm so grateful for that opportunity again. But I do feel like there was, there was just like a lot of chatter outside the house, inside the house.
Starting point is 00:35:21 We do touch on it at the reunion. And I just kind of feel like I put a lot of trust into somebody and I think it was just because I was the newbie that Bailey left and Merle came in later and Merle wasn't even there every weekend. I got really close to Gabby but she wasn't there every weekend. Then Lindsay, but Lindsay's pregnant so she was really prioritizing yeah, she's prioritizing the health of the baby, as she should. And so yeah, I do feel like I put a lot of trust then into my relationship. And I do feel like I probably put too much trust and gave too much. Like I took what he said for like the Holy Grail.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, I probably just shouldn't have. I think realistically I should have taken things with a grain of salt Instead of being like, oh, that's a hundred percent I think so. Yeah, he was saying a lot of things outside the house and inside the house, which did make me feel like oh uneasy not necessarily like It's already an intimidating situation walking into a house filled with people that have been friends for so long and been just kind of like, oh, geez, in this space that I'm so new to. So I do feel like there was just so much chatter in and out of the house that I was just, it was a lot for my brain to handle. I was really overwhelmed, like all summer.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And then it just, it was rough. It was rough for me. But we do touch on that. In the reunion, so we'll find out those like bits and bobs of things that like the manicure where it was like... I think with the manicure thing it was so stupid and that was my point. I think people are like taking it like so seriously. No, even if you got a manicure or not, it's irrelevant. It's the fact that he could say something and you just don't believe him, which is not a person you should be in a relationship with. Exactly, and we were
Starting point is 00:37:01 about to have to be like long distance because he lived in Miami. Oh, he did? Yeah. So I was like, we were leaving the summer being like, OK, are we strong enough to do long distance and trust each other? And that's down the block. Can't even down in the bedroom. Yeah, like in the same bedroom. So I do feel like I just kind of like that last weekend I went in. OK, that makes a lot more sense that floss to the viewers.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I just went in and I was like, what am I doing? And it was the night before. I was already kind of like, okay, do I trust him? I don't know what's going on. And it was the night before that he got the manicure. Did any part of you wanna wait to break up with him till you guys wrapped filming so that you didn't have to deal with doing it on camera?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah, for sure, 100%. And I again would have had like a nice peaceful last weekend and then just like. 100% obviously I'm like. But the thought of him like, I would almost feel like I was like leading him on if he was sleeping in my bed all weekend. Yeah, if like my heart was like, this isn't it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But I was allowing him to be like this is it Yeah, I just it would not sit well with me and if it's funny I feel like a lot of people online have been like, oh like she used him for a storyline. I'm like I Wish that that was I wish that was true. Yeah, because that I was embarrassed also, right? I'm like I actually I wish that I didn't do any of that because I'm watching back Absolutely like cringing being like, oh my god, like this is so embarrassing for me It's like a bad situation like for the world to be like you're dumb And like I agree I hear you I'm like, yeah, you know you know what? I did not have the knowledge that you guys have watching.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Right. It's not fair to like apply what we know. But then there was an episode that was a real turning point in the show. And I also think for the viewers, not Claudia and I, because like we could see from a mile away what was going on, but for other people who doubted you. And when Amanda starts to tell you the things
Starting point is 00:39:03 that he had said, and like the wheels are turning in your head, and like, I just, I was like kind of bracing for you to just be like sort of crestfallen. But you like really stood up for yourself and like told us this whole other side of the story. It felt like one of those books where it's like you read the female's perspective and it's like so bad, right? And it's like, oh my God, this guy's a monster. And then you read the next perspective and it's like a whole different story. And you're telling the same story, but it's like from different perspectives,
Starting point is 00:39:25 it's two completely different things. So then like, it felt like we got that, like when you started saying what's going on during the week and how he acts towards you and the things that he says towards you. And I felt like that, I also felt like there was a change from the audience and people being like, oh, she's not just like,
Starting point is 00:39:42 upset, like, you know, goo goo gaga over him. Like she's thinking too. Yeah. I think that it's really important for women to be strong enough to set boundaries and relationships from day one. Like I'm like, look at, this is what I'm looking for in a relationship. If you're not looking for that, that's okay. But like, then you're not going to be my guy. And that's totally, totally fair. In this stage where I'm at in my life, I'm looking for a serious relationship.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Right. And if you're not, again, that's fine, but I do feel like there was, this is what I was saying about like the half-truths. It's like, well, technically like that did happen, but like, if you don't give context, or like you don't give like the rest of the truth, and the rest of the story,
Starting point is 00:40:24 then it is feeding into like your feelings. I'm the first person to say like, yeah, I said that, yeah, I did that, but this is why I did that. This is why I said that. This is what led me to be doing that. And then that's where an adult can sit back and be like, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:43 I probably would have done the same thing. I would have had the same adult mature conversation with my back and be like, that makes sense, I probably would have done the same thing. I would have had the same adult mature conversation with my partner and been like, hey, I don't like it when A, B, and C. This A, B, and C doesn't make me feel good. Let's compromise on it, let's work on it. Is this something you want to change? Is this something that I could change?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Is this, there's just so much that goes into a relationship and I also feel like so much that goes into a relationship in the public eye. Yeah. That it isn't just like a normal, no stress, no pressure situation. It's like, look, we're either gonna be sitting here watching this back and being stronger than ever is watching it together, or we're gonna be watching it and just getting gut punches every two seconds.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So I do feel like that was also in my mind where I was like, I'm just the type of person that I do have strong boundaries. I do know what I want in a relationship and I don't wanna settle. Yeah, something that was frustrating was like, it being made to seem like your boundaries were so, what's the word, like crazy or jealous.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Like, you didn't even say the thing about the following the girls on Instagram apparently, but I feel like that's a fine boundary to set the comments. Like that's so normal. I feel like this house kind of struggles with people wanting to be in serious relationships, not just fun ones, but like making sacrifices for your partner, changing how you are. It's okay to change. People think like, I'm not going to change for a girl or whatever. No, no, there are some changes that are healthy and then there are others that are unhealthy
Starting point is 00:42:06 and it's about like knowing the difference. But like, I think the biggest issue and Jesse is like such a frustrating character because in so many lights, he's really wonderful and funny and like gives back to his community and like, like it's so great. And then you're like, oh, he's such a mensch. And then when it comes to a relationship,
Starting point is 00:42:24 it's like he wants all the perks and doesn't want to do the harder things, like set boundaries with girlfriends or not spend his time doing this. You have to change your behavior a little bit. That's what being in a relationship is. And that's healthy. We even when, did you watch the show
Starting point is 00:42:41 before you came on the show? No, so I only watched a couple episodes, just to get an overview of what the vibes are. Yeah. Even last season, I- Did you see Jesse on the show? I only saw two episodes and it didn't- Did Ever-Kerdi, that's my guy?
Starting point is 00:42:57 And then- I thought he was good looking. I think everyone six, five, cute. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I didn't think that we were gonna be where we're at right now. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:43:12 To have dated, to have hated, to have like all of this like craziness, especially because that's actually not how I move. Right, what is your typical like cadence in relationships? Like, are you someone who who always has a boyfriend, or always has a something? I think, obviously, I think, especially nowadays with social media and stuff,
Starting point is 00:43:31 everybody always has someone to talk to. I am the type of person where I am a relationship girl, and I've always been a relationship girl. Do I always have just a revolving door of boyfriends? No, I don't think that's healthy. I think you need to take a beat, heal, and then explore dating again. But I do feel like I'm definitely the type of person
Starting point is 00:43:49 where all of my relationships have moved pretty fast, just because a lot of the guys that I've dated, they're like, as soon as we kind of have our first date, they're like, well, I don't want you to date anyone else. I want you to know that I'm watering this plant as much as you're watering this plant type thing. So I do feel like that's always been my experience with dating and again, I've dated great guys,
Starting point is 00:44:11 but also I feel like where I'm at in my life right now, it's like I'm not in my early 20s anymore. I don't want to just have a fling and have a summer fling and be like, okay, bye. I do want a relationship. I do want somebody that I can trust and somebody that's like my person. And it's like, we have each other's backs.
Starting point is 00:44:27 You're my best friend, but you're also my boyfriend. And I want like that we're close to each other's families. We're friends with each other's siblings. It's just like, just one big like happy family type vibe. Yeah. And so that's just what I'm looking for right now. In relationships, I do normally kind of, maybe this is where I go wrong too.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I try to lead by example and be like, so I give so much loyalty because that's what I want back. I give so much communication because that's what I want back. I give so much trust because that's what I want back. And I do feel like sometimes- It makes it unbalanced, if you're not getting it back. Exactly. So it looks like I'm like really on it. But like I didn't feel like that.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I felt like it was like a normal relationship. Yeah. And because that is a lot of time, like how my past relationships are, it's just, I've never even actually thought about it. It just all happened so naturally. It never felt like I was, or they were pushing a relationship or pushing each other on each other. It just always felt like this is what I will,
Starting point is 00:45:35 I'm happy doing this, I'm gonna keep doing this. And the guys were like that too. So I think with this relationship, it was like, to my face, it felt like natural. Yeah, but then it's like, I'm happy doing this, I wanna keep doing this, and I also keep doing everything else I'm doing. Yeah, but I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah. So like to my face, I was like, oh, this is like natural, this is great, whatever. Yeah. But then obviously I found out like behind my back, there was concerns that were never brought up to my face. So today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Squarespace.
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Starting point is 00:50:32 Have you been dating since this summer? Yeah. Are you single? Yeah. Yeah, I am single. I've met like great guys. How do you actually meet people? Any tips for girls?
Starting point is 00:50:44 Through mutual friends, I feel like. I have to be so real. I'm so bad at dating apps. I have no Riz. No Riz. None. So what do you do if you match with someone that you think is cute, like you just reach out?
Starting point is 00:50:57 I'm not on dating apps. So I'm usually on them at all. I can't. I've tried. I thought you were on them and mad at them. No, I had to take myself out of that game cuz I was like, you know what? I'm not I'm not good at this. I suck at replying I like then I just get in my head and I'm like, oh my god
Starting point is 00:51:13 Then it just sounds like I'm doing like a business email and I'm like, yeah, this is so bad so I really depend on my friends to introduce me to their friends or Meet people out Do you meet people like that's everyone's dream. Yeah. And then they don't. If I'm like out partying, no. I'm not like, I'm not on the prowl.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You don't want someone who's out in the club anyway. Yeah. And I just kind of feel like I'm normally out with like my friends. And I'm not going to take away from my friends, like go on the prowl to meet some man. I'm like, no, like my friends mean more to me than some random guy in a club. Yeah. Or a bar or whatever. But if I'm like out and I'm with friends and then he's with friends or they know each other or that's kind of how I've met everyone and especially recently. And is it mostly in New York? I don't know why I feel like dating in New York is so hard. Dating in New York is hard. It's funny actually, because I feel like every guy that I've talked
Starting point is 00:52:04 to since the summer doesn't live in New York. And did you meet them in New York is hard. It's funny actually because I feel like every guy that I've talked to since the summer doesn't live in New York. And did you meet them in New York even? Or they were visiting or you were out of town? I met the one in New York then the other one I met out of town. And again, it's just like, it's one of those things where like,
Starting point is 00:52:19 it's a long, like it would be a long distance thing. Like you can never really like, yeah, fully get to know people and everything. So it's been flings, but I am single and I am, I'm like happy with that. I feel like I'm in a really good space where I feel really good, confident.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I'm like ready to date, obviously, because I do feel like I've healed a lot from that situation. Did you feel like you were like over it and then the season aired and now you're like in it again? It's like happening all over again. Yeah, absolutely. Because the season didn't air for like six months after. I imagine that's how long it like takes to fully move on from something like that. Yeah, and then it's like all over again. Yes. Yeah, a hundred percent. You literally go through like a healing process then you're like, uh, stab, uh, stab, like every Wednesday it's like a stab and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:53:05 no. Well it's over now. I know, I know. That's a relief. That is a relief. We still have the reunion, we still have, but I am happy that I do feel like we kind of get a break for a minute to just be like, okay, like I'm in my healing era. And yeah, I feel good, I feel confident. I feel like I'm not necessarily desperate for a relationship, but I'm open to one. I feel like I love dating, I love connections. I love, but at the end of the day, I will always be like, my friendships mean more to me
Starting point is 00:53:42 than meeting a guy at a club. So it is difficult. Dating in New York is hard. I don't know how people do it. Especially without apps. Yeah, I'm literally praying that like my friends know someone. Yeah, that they haven't already set you up with.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. Yeah, that's like, you need just a lot of people, a big pool. Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, well, now this is like awkward, because then also like dating in a friend group can obviously be very messy. It's just like, I feel like right now, dating in general is so hard. When did you meet?
Starting point is 00:54:16 Like, I met my husband in, what was the year? Maybe like 2015. OK. But we met through a combination of, I started a new job working where he was working, but we had also like two months before matched on Hinge, but we didn't talk or go out yet. So then like when I started this job and then like a month into it, I went to like drinks, like drinks with coworkers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Like, oh my God, so awkward. And I was like, got to talking to him randomly, and we were having a really good conversation, definitely flirty, and I was like, oh, okay. And then at the end of the conversation, he mentioned that we had matched on Hinge over the summer. And I was like, oh, I didn't even, I didn't really check that much that summer. I was having fun, so I wasn't all up on it.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And so then that night I went and found his page and whatever, and like a month later We like started dating in at work and then the rest is history So it was like we wouldn't have gotten together without Hinge or actually maybe without hinge but like in that moment it was just like, okay we're both interested like him saying that like meant that we both like swiped right and like our single and You want to make it now. Yeah So now all of a you went from just like being a co-worker to like a romantic interest.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So Hinge definitely like accelerated things. But if we never met in real life, we would have never connected. Wait, I love this. I love hearing like how people meet their person. I'm just like, this is so exciting. But so many of my friends, like most people that I know who've met their husbands have met them in partner, like partly because of a dating app,
Starting point is 00:55:47 but also there has to be an in-person connection. So like my best friend, she like went out with this guy once, like years, like a long time ago, probably like 10 years ago. And they had like a nice time, maybe they went out twice, but like neither of them were really looking for anything. So they didn't go out again. And then a year later, they were both on the apps and they connected again.
Starting point is 00:56:04 So they were like, oh, let's go out. And now they're married and they have a baby. And like, so, and like all of my friends have a situation like that where it's like, someone was a mutual friend. They like got set up on a double date once. They didn't like really hit it off. And then they connected again on Hinge or I don't know what the dating app Dejour now is,
Starting point is 00:56:19 but back in my day, it was Hinge. It's still Hinge. Hinge is the one. Yeah, Hinge. I think like Raya is still so kicking it. Right, Raya. I could never get into Raya. Not into it.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, like into it. No, no, no. Accepted. Okay. Yeah. Well, look at it. It all worked out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:38 You're winning. Despite their refusal. I was on Raya for a week. And it's actually funny because I think I won on it like twice and I ended up like meeting a guy. Oh really? Someone you would know? Mmm no. No not this person. Yeah no he was he was like a baseball player but he was cute. Oh so like semi like baseball player. Yeah it's oh yeah there's a lot of athletes around here do you go to the Knicks games? I did I used to go a lot when I was younger and going to the finals or whatever
Starting point is 00:57:08 I haven't I haven't gone but I actually love basketball someone that is a good place to meet somebody But I also feel like they're busy. They're busy In all cases, they're busy there are they're watching or playing and hey, right is busy So, yeah, I don't know where to meet guys. I don't know. I feel like you're doing such a great job. Like keep doing what you're doing. Maybe I'll run into somebody at like a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I also wanted to ask you, cause I just watched your second appearance on Watch What Happens Live. And Andy mentioned that you dated Drake. And I didn't know that until I saw that. Cause I feel like some of your exes, like we know, and I didn't know that you dated Drake I kind of ship there's there's a lot of people that I
Starting point is 00:57:50 haven't That nobody knows about yeah, but like you're very you're a loyal person So you don't spill the beans no matter how it goes. Yeah, cuz to me like to tell me when we wrap To me I was just always like I've just always actually been a very private person, which is funny. Right. But also like a very open person. But for me, just like guys that I dated, like it was just never a thought to like air it
Starting point is 00:58:16 out or post it or even like the guys that I dated that ended up being like paparazzi or whatever. I never even like really posted that much about it other than one of them. Cause we were like very serious. But other than that, like I never have posted a guy other than the one I've never done that. So I always just kind of thought like coming on the show, I was like, okay, yeah, I was, I was just going to talk about like my public relationships that everybody had been talking about for years ago or Jesse. And like, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I didn't think that one specific Jesse was going to air out other people that have been in that would happen. Yes. And I'm like, that's sorry, that's not your story to tell. So that's like that. Yeah. That's how it kind of came out. But I was like, I keep my private life private. And for him to do that, I was like shocked. Like, and I didn't realize that's where it came from. I just thought I like missed something.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where it came from. In the page six article. I was like, I kept getting sent in. I was like, what is going on right now? And I was like, oh my God. But yeah, no, I'm just type of, I, yeah, I just, it was private and I always just kind of like respect that that was a choice that was made in that moment. I will honor that. Not even like a choice. It wasn't even
Starting point is 00:59:41 like a discussion. It just like never, I've just never really like posted guys or like been very public with people. Yeah. Even if they're public and I'm Not even like a choice. It wasn't even like a discussion. It just like never, I've just never really like posted guys or like been very public with people. Even if they're public and I'm public, we have like a private life, but yeah, no, it's crazy. Oh my gosh, that is so interesting. I also wanted to ask you about watching episode five because last week or whenever Jesse and Wes were on
Starting point is 01:00:01 and someone had written a call in about you having like tension with Tinks on your episode. And I hadn't watched your episode yet. So I actually just watched it this morning. And I didn't really, I wouldn't have thought that, but then Jesse like was like, yeah, there's tension. I didn't, I didn't feel that. What was it like for you?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Was there tension? It was weird. Cause like, I had no idea. I knew that episode was just like a difficult episode for me because it was when everybody was kind of like talking about my family behind my back. And again, never giving me, I feel like there was a lot always said behind my back.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So I was never really given an opportunity to ever really like stand up for myself or like get the story straight or like anything. And that entire episode, like Jesse was like, oh, we hung out for three hours. It was not three hours. He said we were at the bar until 2 a.m. Not true. Like all of this stuff was just like, so I think that episode for me was just
Starting point is 01:00:51 like an intense one, but I didn't feel anything. Yeah. From Tynx unless she said something to him. But like I saw that she like went somewhere and said that there was no tension either. So I don't know where Jessie got that information. Got it. I didn't feel any pressure. I was happy to be there.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Like you had your own shit going on is what you're saying. Yeah, I was just like, I was just happy. Nothing between the two of you. No, I was just happy to be there. I was happy to see Andy. I was happy that I was doing it with another like cool, independent, strong girl. Like I was like, this is great. I went into her dressing room before we went in and I was like,
Starting point is 01:01:23 so excited to be doing this together. I was, I love the Watch What Happens Live, like crew and production and everyone, like they're all just so amazing. I always have the best time when I go. So I was like, and my mom and sister were bar chatting. I was like, this is actually a hoot. This is, I had a good time, but I didn't,
Starting point is 01:01:41 I saw that cause I got tagged in that again so much too. And I was like, wait, what? Right. I feel like he's, he's said a lot of things that I'm just like that's... He says a lot of things. That's not the experience that I experienced. Yeah. Let's say that. Okay, that's fair. Well, the reunion is tonight so we'll be able to see a bit more of like if there's resolution, which I am hoping for because like you know, wanting two to move forward separately, I understand didn't work out for me. So we're very excited to watch and I'm so thankful that you came to the toast.
Starting point is 01:02:16 No, I'm so much fun. So fun. I'm so happy to be here. This is so cool. I love this. And I'm just chatting with you. No, I know same. I have so many questions for you. And then like, it's's already almost June and so like back to the Hamptons. Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:29 We will see well, yeah, like yeah all TBD, but I think it's safe to say your spot is secure I just also I feel like with the show there's gonna be some change Everyone's like teases changes and everyone's sort of like pushing Lindsay and her baby out the door Danielle Just like not nice, but I do feel like the show is changing, like, or at least needs to. So what do you think that will look like? So interesting. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:02:55 I feel like everyone has really like, the cast is so intertwined. It's so, I don't even know what that would look like. But obviously I want to support everyone in like whatever, wherever their life is going, I'm like, oh hell yeah. I'm like, they're riding with you for that. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know either.
Starting point is 01:03:16 This being my first season too, I'm like, I wish I had more intel, but yeah, I got nothing. I feel like there's definitely things that can be done. I think the Valley has set like a really good precedent for like, I don't want to say aging, but like growing up. But also like a spin off of like, it's like, this was the stage of like Vanderpump and now everybody has grown up
Starting point is 01:03:36 and now we're following their lives as like, yeah, and maybe it's not necessarily real housewives because I'm not like obsessed with that idea for Lindsay but like maybe it's like a show in the middle, because I feel like that's doing really well for the Valley. And as someone who's actually in the same stage of life as Lindsay or people on the Valley, having babies, and I think it's interesting to watch.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah, for sure. They're tested stars. She could do it. Well, I was just gonna say, Lindsay is so smart and amazing, and like just literally made for this. Yeah. I'm like, I always, before I actually went on my first watch,
Starting point is 01:04:10 What Happens Live, I was like, Lindsay. I texted her, I was like, what can I expect? What, like, obviously it's live, Andy's an icon. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm new. I was going on without another castmate. So I was like, oh my god. Who'd you go on the first time with? Danielle Schneider. She is amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Where does she eat? She's a comedian. She has a podcast. She's honestly so funny. We had the best time. Oh good. I watched it. And I remember enjoying it. Yeah, no, it was so fun. We were little like twins by the end of it. I was like, no, I love you so much. That's so fun.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah. We had so much fun literally on set and off set. It was amazing. So yeah, I like texted her. But as soon as I got there, Danielle and I literally got along right away. Yeah. It's funny how the show brings people together, watch what happens live.
Starting point is 01:04:59 The green, he puts on like, sometimes it's some people from the same show, but could be random people from totally different industries. Yeah. You get to meet new people. Which I think is so cool and like having their perspective and their opinion and like, I think it's so cool and I think Andy is so amazing and so great at hosting. He's like, again, he's an icon.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah. So he, yeah, it's always so fun to kind of just like be there. That is really fun. Well, thank you again for coming, spending the morning with me, or afternoon. And where can everyone follow you, keep up with you? So you can follow me on Instagram, Lexi Wood, Lexi Wood X on TikTok, and 6 and 9 podcast. And then stay tuned for my Hanky Panky collection.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Oh, we can't wait. I'm so excited. I'm shooting the campaign tomorrow. I shot it yesterday. Yeah, it's hard. It's like not we do every episode like dropping that same day. So I'm like, Reunion airs tonight. Yeah, this is a little pre recorded.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Reunion airs tonight on Bravo. Can't wait to watch you do your thing. Everyone actually looks sickening at this reunion. Best reunion looks yet. I know. Being there, I was like, everyone is so beautiful. How was it like going into it? Were you nervous? I feel like it's just nerve wracking that like you want to make your case for you. Just like want to get your words out, but it's like sometimes they don't come.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yes. Yeah, a hundred percent. And I do feel like it is so overwhelming and it's like, how do I sum up months in one conversation? And there's so many of us, there's 10, those are more, 10. That sounds like a lot. 11, 10 or 11 of us.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And we all have a lot going on in our lives. And a lot of, especially this year, it's like so much has unraveled during the season, off season, we have, Lindsay has a baby. Yeah. Like we wanna talk about that. Like there's just, a lot of people have a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 01:07:03 So yeah, it was intimidating to me, like, okay, I don't know what to expect. Again, I'm so new. I don't know what to expect ever on a daily basis. I have, I'm really just doing my best. And so yeah, I was definitely like scared going in. I was like, oh my God, but Gabby and I shared a dressing room, which was so fun. And she is, we just had the best time And our, my hair and makeup team was like my closest friends. And then her hair and makeup is like,
Starting point is 01:07:28 we've gotten to know each other through working together too. And I just love them. So our room was like the girls' room. And we were- That's good energy. We had so much fun. Okay, good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And was it, did it wind up being like more or less than you expected it to be in terms of like intimidation and Like the intensity of it. I think because it was my first one it felt Exactly what I was scared of. Yeah, because it was my first one. I don't know I didn't know what to expect. I didn't know it does get really intense obviously like at the end of the day There's a lot of things to discuss and I think especially With me because it was my first season. I honestly wasn't even thinking that I was at the end of the day, there's a lot of things to discuss. And I think especially with me because it was my first season,
Starting point is 01:08:07 I honestly wasn't even thinking that I was doing that much. Like, I was like, guys, I'm new. Yeah. There's so much going on. And yeah, my- No, but you can just- But I went through what I found to being the main storyline of the season.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah, there was a lot going on, a lot being said, a lot. So we did have a lot to talk about. So it was an intimidating thing. Yeah, for sure. And like you said, trying to even formulate all of the words and like everything that you are feeling and even being able to express that and form it. No, and like explain yourself is one thing. Yeah. And make yourself make sense.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And then also do it in front of the person who like broke your heart and you have to like sit there and talk about how your heart broken. Yeah. And then I think because there's obviously being a house altogether, every else is obviously involved and it's like there's just so much going on for all of us. There's a lot going on. That it was definitely a wild first reunion for me. Oh my gosh. Okay, well I can't wait to watch. Thank you again for joining us now. I will let you go. We will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.

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