The Toast - Fast Five Flop Era: Monday, June 12th, 2023

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a blessed and sacred weekend. Speaking of blessedness and sacrosycity, it's Jax. Hey, Jax. Hi, Turtie Lou, little turtle. It's turtle time with Turtie Lou. It's turtle time.

Hey, Clurdy-o, how are you doing? You know what? I'm doing okay. I had a bout of food poisoning last night. I believe that's what it was. I don't really want to get into it, but it was giving notovirus circa 2021. I am triggered. I am traumatized. I'm still deeply unwell, but I'm much better. And I'm feeling grateful that you're on bed rest so that we don't have to go into the studio today. We're both podcasting from home, and honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm in no shape to be leaving the house. So what I should be saying is, you're on bed rest so that we don't have to go into the studio today. We're both podcasting from home and honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm in no shape to be leaving the house. So what I should be saying is, yad welcome?

Pretty much. Pretty much that's what you should be saying. What can I say except yad welcome? It's so great to be back on the mic, on the ones and the twos with Jax, you know? Yeah, it is. I missed you. We podcasted on Thursday, but but then Friday your big episode with Jax dropped that's why it feels like it's been so long turdy Lou making waves making headlines

all right everyone what did you think about the Jax episode I thought it was quite redeeming you know Jax like he he talks a lot and you know we kind of kind of have that in common you know we like to cut each other off and and I. And I was really kind of mindful to be measured and speak when spoken to because it wasn't about me. And I think I did a good job of not speaking over him while he was speaking over me. Yeah. No, it was good. But you're also just like friends, so it doesn't have to be like 60 minutes. It could be more of a conversation.

And also, that's what a podcast is. And I was really excited because – So you were just podcasting. Because the AV queen in me was so excited that we got to use our new third camera. I don't know if you guys noticed on YouTube. We had not one, not two, but three angles. And it was really exciting to be able to test that out with Jax. And I think it turned out swimmingly.

But you didn't use your new AI. No, no. And I don't want people knowing that I'm using AI. Don't share that with them. Okay, sorry. Turdy doesn't use AI. No, no, no, no, no, no. I definitely don't use AI software to edit. Someone a while ago made some TikTok videos of my voice using AI. You had sent them to me. They were so funny. And I rewatched them recently because I was just like telling Zach because we were talking about AI and he was like, don't you worry that the toast could be replaced by AI. I was like, no, I've seen a script and it's really terrible. So that's fine. Yeah, I actually did. There were these videos that recreated my voice and like said stuff that I would say. And now I can't get it out of my head like. OK, but it did not sound like you. it did a little bit upon

re-watching and then also like I guess the person who made the TikTok wrote the script and they know how I speak because it was like right no that's Turdy's book I can't sign that come on brew mommy needs a drink like yeah that's me yeah but that's not AI because there was a human being behind it that's true you can't take behind the script out of me you can't take the humanity out of the toast and that's why I sleep well knowing AI is not coming for my job I do sleep well like on that front you know but I also was warm and I need to get a pregnancy pillow and I'm not sleeping like that well I actually I didn't sleep that well either because of the food poisoning but just know the food poisoning was keeping me up and not the future of AI. Yeah no just know it was like whether or not to buy a pregnancy pillow and if so which one

would I buy was keeping me up. I just feel like the one on Amazon like the one that comes up suggested is good enough. That's what I bought last time. Too big and not helpful enough for how much space it takes up. Then I got a different one that's by like Boppy. It's just like two balls that it's actually much better but I feel like I could do even better this time. Knowing. All right put it out there. See what the toasters recommend. Yeah I got like a Facebook ad for one yesterday that looked really scrumptious. Facebook ads are so effective. It's disgusting. Yeah they really are. We share a Facebook so I get like a lot of kids stuff which I get does all Taylor Swift videos all the time oh really all tell like I know everything about her and everything that goes on in her concerts that's so funny that like you're getting my

targeted information and I'm getting your targeted information I know why can't they figure out figure it out like based on device It's not that hard. Mark. Mark. Do better, Mark. They're so smart, but they just miss the mark. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Yes. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. So we've got a great show. We've got stories. We have so much TV to recap because Jackie's been on her bedrest grind with her new television from Costco that we bought on Instacart.

And she's kind of, she's putting in the work. She's retroactively recapping everything. Yeah. So I'm all caught up on Real Housewives of New Jersey from last week this weekend I got all caught up on Summer House I watched the whole season and the whole reunion it was only two parts and I am just shocked by the way that I feel and how it's so out of step with the narrative of the show. Yeah. And out of step with Andy. Did you watch both reunions? Yes. Andy like took a side and took a stand.

And I just like, I can't believe how, how opposite I feel, but I'll save it for the TV recap. But that was just really shocking to me. And the TV recap, I also watched the fourth and final season of Never Have I Ever, which like, it's just like a show for teenagers that I'm obsessed with. Ben is even more in love with it than I am. So I'm going to save that for the TV recap, I also watched the fourth and final season of Never Have I Ever, which is just like a show for teenagers that I'm obsessed with. Ben is even more in love with it than I am. So I'm going to save that for the TV recap too. But highly recommend.

It's a great bedrest show. It's like short episodes. It's funny. It's light. It's cute. It really gives a deep respect and admiration for Indian culture as well. Thanks for the recommendation. I'll add it to the list, though I'm going through my list really slowly because I don't have like that much time to watch tv and then at night I watch with Zach

so we have like our together show we're watching love and death and we watch the third episode and he fell asleep for the whole thing so now we're kind of at a crossroads we're at a crossroads like do you move on without him or now you have to re-watch the third episode do we re-watch it together do I just fill him in and we can forge ahead or do we go our separate ways the thing is it's like it's only a seven episode series so there's not like a lot of fodder like every episode like needs to be watched and it's good and he should I felt like that episode actually like I could just tell you what happened because it was just like getting us to a place where now things are going to pop off you know like the show starts

really on episode four like the whole thing but but I don't know context is important. But he like doesn't pay that close attention anyway like he always is. Okay so just move on. He's always on his phone like he's not like me like if I didn't hear something I will rewind. Yeah me too me too. All right so maybe just move on. Otherwise we're gonna be stuck on episode three forever. And maybe it's important for Zach to learn you know the consequences of his actions. You fall asleep you miss stuff. Yeah yeah at least like say you're going to sleep out and I'll watch Summer House. Oh that is so Ben like we're watching something and I could feel his presence like shutting down. I'm like are you going to sleep? Like just tell me I'll turn the TV off we can go to bed together. Like he's like no

no I'm just resting my eyes. Like always resting his eyes. And I'm like, no, you're not. And it's one of my biggest pet peeves. Like I hate being awake by myself. So if Ben's going to sleep, like I will go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Yeah. It's so it's like one of my biggest pet peeves. That's so annoying. Well, speaking of going to sleep, it's like been taking me a while to fall asleep these days because I'm just so uncomfortable so I started a new book last night The Senator's Wife by Liv Constantine have you read anything by her I have you have what has she written uh they're all you know like is it the last time I saw you with the red necklace the red book with the necklace on the cover yes yes you recommended I loved that book okay so I'll let you know about this one. Okay.

I'm like 20%. It's good. And also in some other book news. Yeah. By the way. I want to clear up some rumors going around about us. Because I got so many messages about this. What's the rumor?

The rumor. Okay. So a lot of people saw critically acclaimed Australian queen author Sally Hepworth yesterday. Revealed the cover and title of her new book. She sent it out I think in her newsletter and she gave like a little synopsis about what the book is about. And you know the toasters were immediately put on alert because the book is about three sisters named Claudia, Jackie, and Margot. And everyone was like oh my god oh my god oh my god. And I posted it on my story. I'm like not us being you know the inspiration

for these titles these the names of these characters. And so many people were messaging me like, oh, my God, what a crazy coincidence. Like, is this intentional? And yeah, it's intentional. Like, Sally reached out to me. She was like, I'm going to name some characters after you and Jackie. Is Jackie's full name Jacqueline? And I was like, yes, but like you can do Jackie or Jackie. My full name name Jacqueline and I was like yes but like

you can do Jackie or Jackie my full name is Claudia and we were like we've known about this for like a while like maybe a year and we were like freaking out and then a few months later she was like wait I think I'm gonna do three sisters now um what are your other sisters names and I was like Olivia and Margo and she chose Margo and Margo's like a big reader so Margo's really excited Margo loves Sally Hepworth Margo's so excited. I don't even know if Olivia would have cared like if she got named after because she doesn't read. But I wanted to clear up that this wasn't some sort of cool winky dink or like we knew. We've been known. We've been in the know.

No, it's as cool as it sounds. Like it's not like an accidentally cool thing that happened. Like it was intentional. And Sally chose us to be her sisters. I just hope that they're good scenes, you know? I actually, I think that they're, like, kind of mischievous, like, girlies. But Sally always, the last Sally Hepworth book I wrote, like, the crazy girl, her name was Heather.

And she wrote on the, you know, before the title page, it's like a disclaimer that she did a contest on her Instagram. Like a charity auction. Yeah, and the person who won got to be like the name. So she was like, while Heather is horrible, Heather in real life is actually amazing. And these two characters are not, you know, even remotely similar, but they just share a name. So I do believe we'll be getting our own page like that too, hopefully. Oh, hopefully.

Yeah, she's always like just wheeling and dealing names of characters in her books. I guess when you write so many books with so many characters, it's like, yeah, you can start just naming them after people you love. No, totally. And I'm honored. I cannot wait to read this book. It's one of the most exciting things that's ever happened to us. I know.

And because Sally Hepworth is like one, probably top three author of mine. Same. Period. I just finished The Soulmate, which I love. Like she has never flopped. So like to know that there's a book that's loosely inspired by our beings no and that I don't think it's by the way I don't think it's even remotely inspired by us no that's why I said loosely inspired by our beings but it's not like it has it's just like even if it's just a name that's extremely loose but no we're not inspired

like I feel like Sally makes that really clear like I feel like I know Sally, you know? No, I know that there's not going to be two that do a podcast and one with red hair. I know that. Oh my God. I would love if they were podcasters. But that's the thing. The characters have nothing to do with us besides our names. They're loosely inspired by our beings.

That just means our name. Okay? Yeah, okay. But in case one of them turns out to be a murderer or something, that's not us. We don't murder. Okay. Whatever. I'm flattered. The end. Yeah. Okay. But like in case one of them turns out to be like a murderer or something, that's not us. We don't murder. Okay. Whatever. I'm flattered.

The end. No. I'm guffawed beyond – I'm awestruck. Yeah. When does it come out? I think October. Yeah. And I still haven't read her recent book, The Soulmate,

because it's my select for book club. And my selection is not up for like another month or two. So I have a two so I have a long way I have to wait who chooses in October maybe you should be like you know big swinging dick I'm gonna choose the book that like is named after me oh my god I feel like actually like I think there's like two more people like I might be October but no it's only June I don't know I can also ask to be moved like the group is very flexible we actually had to swap this month Natalie for Michelle just because of like some scheduling conflicts I think I'm October for the redheads I think you should

choose it I think also because Sally Hepworth is like a safe choice for a book club her books have never been bad and it's always like a really good thriller and a thriller is always gonna like keep a book club back you know keep them in good spirits yeah and I think by then we'll be ready for another thriller like because we're all trying to do something different with like these most recent choices because we were reading like the same book over and over again but by then like I'll be back to thriller well you know what it is it's thrilling it is thrilling it's a thrill tis a thrill are you reading anything no I like haven't been able to pick up my kindle. You know what I mean? Like I read like four books in one week like two weeks ago. Yeah. And I'm just like I'm on a break you know. I haven't even I have no urge to reach for my Kindle and I'm just leaning

in. My break just ended. My watch has ended. And you know what? I'll have to pick up my Kindle for my book club anyway so I'll probably then get back into it. That's what's so great about a book club like you're you can't ever break for that long. Yeah. Like the max you can do is like a month. Yeah. It keeps you accountable. Yeah. I love that. Before we dive in I wanted to tell everyone about just kind of like the craziest thing that happened to me too actually. There's two monumental things that happened to me this weekend. Does one of them have to do with your forehead? One of them does have to do with my forehead. I feel like everybody knows this because I posted on Instagram, but in case you listen to this podcast and don't have an Instagram, in which

case, how did you find us? I have been walking around with the biggest fucking like bruise slash hickey slash circle of popped blood vessels right at the center of my forehead. It couldn't be bigger. It couldn't be more omnipresent. It couldn't be more like centered on my face and it won't go away. It was an anti-related injury. And the amount of people, mothers, fathers, parents, aunts, uncles, who messaged me saying, oh my God, the same thing happened to me is absurd. Like, how did I not know that this was a thing?

I was at Jackie's house. What day was this? Friday? I guess so. Yeah, we were doing makeup in bed and stuff. Oh, yeah. And, you know, obviously Harry climbed into bed with us. And and it was amazing and we had a bunch of toys on the bed and he had some of his their bath toys correct? Yeah they were bath toys that hadn't made it to the bath yet they were like a new.

Right unboxed. Unboxing. And they're cool because they're like little fidget spinners but they suction to the bathtub so when Harry's you know getting his, getting his ass washed, somebody can, you know, get to business and Harry can just fiddle with his toys and not be bothered. And I was like, oh, how cute, suction. And I was like, I wonder if this will suction to my forehead. And it did. And then I was like making it spin.

And Harry, I mean, he wasn't like, he didn't think it was like the funniest, best thing ever. But I got like a little bit of a chuckle, like nothing crazy. Yeah, he gave you a pity laugh. Yeah, yeah. At least it wasn't, at least I didn't get nothing get nothing you know imagine if I had this big thing on my forehead and he didn't even laugh no he smiled he was appreciative but it wasn't like his favorite thing that Antiqua has ever done no and when I popped it off you were like oh my god you have

a big thing on your forehead and I was like I figured I would I figured it would just be there for like the next 10 minutes or whatever um no it's been three days I'm pretty sure it's getting worse it's like purple it's not getting worse it's getting better okay I just did order some arnica gel that's what everyone told me it like helps bruises heal um it's like what you put on your face after Botox and um it's pretty much been ruining my life I went out Friday and Saturday night and I had to cake on the most makeup of all time I don't know how to color correct I don't know what to do with this thing I went to a dinner party and got seated next to Martha Stewart and I just know she was looking at my forehead the whole time I just feel like if she was what she wasn't and you're so beautiful

and distracting that like no one even noticed plus I saw the way you looked at you really couldn't tell even with a flash um but she would have respected that it was like an anti-related injury like it's a funny story of course and Martha is a gran like Martha knows the beauty of you know being kind of like a second mother to a child yeah so she and I had that in common which was pretty cool like I got invited to this dinner party and I just like RSVP'd I didn't like read the email or anything so I honestly I got to start doing that because I didn't know like what I was walking into I feel like I was like a little bit underdressed um and I go to my seat and I'm like literally sitting next to Martha Stewart and I was so excited and I really um I did my best to

like be cool and funny and when she found out I was a comic she was like I was asking her a million questions like about Sports Illustrated and she was so proud of Sports Illustrated and I told her like what a major moment it was for the culture and how like we're so undeserving of Martha's greatness you know and then we were like chatting and I was asking her a lot of questions about herself and then she started to ask me and I was like trying to be so funny and like dazzling and I think I dazzled I think she was like really I think she was into me she kept like leaning to me and like asked me questions about people around us and I made her laugh a few times and honestly once I made Martha laugh like I knew I could go home if you can make Martha laugh you can do anything yeah because

Martha's like very very famous like it's actually crazy I put I we posted I posted a photo of me and Martha and I of course I was like Martha do you like this photo do you want me to facetune it and she was like no I love it I'm like okay great I didn't want to be disrespectful in any way um the amount of like that was probably the most responses I've gotten to a message like about posting ever with any celebrity like Martha's so famous it's kind of crazy no and it's like she's famous for her taste and her acumen like it's a different sort of... Fame. Fame, but it's also even, like, more intimidating to sit next to her. It's not like she's, like, you know, an amazing actress and she's in these movies

and that's separate from who she is. Like, she's famous for who she is in her soul. No, but I would argue, like, depending on how old you are, like, your connection to Martha, she's so multi-generationally famous. And, like, I'm sure different people are obsessed with her for different reasons. I'm sure, like, a younger crew is obsessed with, like, her multi-generationally famous. And like, I'm sure different people are obsessed with her for different reasons. I'm sure like a younger crew is obsessed with like her Snoop Dogg thing. But like an older woman is more into like her pies, you know? Yeah.

It's, she's so famous. It was so crazy. She's so famous. But I guess you're also famous for your soul, Turdy. So maybe you guys had that in common. For my soul? Yeah, like for who you are. I guess.

You know, for like your personality and your being. Honestly, I don't want to be compared to Martha. Like, are you trying to destroy me? Like I'll become a monster. I don't know. Turdy Lou and Martha Stew, iconic duo. Iconic do, except like something, probably one of the worst things that could ever happen to a human being happened to me at this dinner party.

Oh, goodness. Oh, do I already know what it is yeah yeah yeah okay good I was like what else so this dinner party was to honor this like really major Egyptian archaeologist he's like responsible for all of the incredible discoveries in like the pyramids the sphinx he's so smart and he's like this hilarious older gentleman and Ben was talking to him his name is Dr. Zahi Hawass and he was just like he made a little speech thanking everyone for welcoming him to New York and he was hysterical and Ben was talking to him just he was asking questions about us and Ben was like oh my wife does stand-up and he turns to me because he was also sitting on the other side of me he was like I love stand-up comedy and I was like oh great me

too he's like do something I was like oh my god I will die and everyone. And I was like, oh, great, me too. He's like, do something. I was like, oh, my God, I will die. And everyone at the table was like, yeah, do it, do it. So I was like, okay, I'll do a little something for the table. And he's like, no, stand up, because there were four tables at this dinner party. They're like, they start clinking their glasses. They're like, do something for everyone. And I'm like, oh, my God, oh, my God, this is my worst nightmare. Not really.

But it's one of those situations, if I had said no, like, that's such a loser-y thing to do. Beyond. That's, like, when someone's like, oh, did you know this person has an amazing voice? And then they won't sing for you. Like, it's fucking annoying. Yeah. It's not the same, because, like, you can't just, like, do comedy. You know what I mean?

No, it's so personal. It's so personal. But, like, I was certainly, like, this man, like, is so, the mayor of New York came to this dinner party. Like, this man is so respectful. And he wanted to hear me. So I was like, I have to do it. And I just, you know what? I was actually really proud of myself.

I didn't even, I didn't, I was like, oh, sure, of course. Like, I didn't say no. I stood up. I wasn't nervous. I wanted to, like, feel confident. So I just felt confident. I just decided to be confident. And I did, like, a little bit from my, from my

special, special, which is coming out soon. And I haven't been on stage since January. So I was like kind of rusty. And I was just also just trying to feel like the vibe of the crowd. This was like, you know, intellectual, sort of older crowd. But they, you know, they loved it. Ben said I did a good job. I definitely wasn't like amazing. I don't think I was gonna, you know, you know they loved it Ben said I did a good job I definitely wasn't like amazing I don't think I was gonna you know get any offers for you know private gigs but I didn't embarrass myself and I did I think I did good and I saw Dr. Zahi like cackle at this one joke and that made me feel so good I did like a few minutes I really when it was over oh my god I I was not okay like I was like I have to leave yeah that's lot, but I'm proud of you.

Thank you. And that's really cool. Mm-hmm. No, it was really cool, and I got to meet Martha, and hopefully Martha thought it was funny, so, like, I'm good. Yeah, I'm sure she did. She's kind of like a comic queen. She is, and I feel like she's so unserious. That's what's so surprising about her.

Like, her whole vibe is, like, rich coastal grandmother, like, expensive weddings, expensive homes at the beach. But, like, in her real life, I feel like she's, like expensive weddings expensive homes at the beach but like in her real life I feel like she's like so low-key she was wearing like sandals she was so chill yeah very cool yeah it was like a cool weekend and then I got to hang out with Harry on Sunday and he was biggest celeb biggest archaeologist always excavating always discovering new things constantly digging dig dig. Dig, dig, dig. And he was in, if you like are around babies, you know, like they have different moods. And they're always like cute and sweet.

But he was in like a really special mood. Yesterday, it was actually as though he was delivered straight from heaven. Like the way he gave me so many kisses. He was cackling at auntie. Cackle, cackle, cackle. Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke. Oh my god. It was one of the more special times of my life, honestly. He was cackling at Auntie. Cackle, cackle, cackle. Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke. Oh, my God. It was one of the more special times of my life, honestly.

It was better than Martha. No offense, Martha. I love you, Queen. Oh, that's so beautiful. Yeah, you got him at the right time. At his finest. Yeah. It was amazing.

You know, it was a really nice weekend. Got to see my turd-y loot and catch up can we give like a bed rest update to everyone like how are you feeling how are you doing what's going on yeah I'm feeling um as good as possible you know just trying to stay busy as you know and just but I I weirdly I'm really busy like I'm not bored I feel like at the end of my pregnancy with Harry, I was also weirdly, like, just in bed all the time because I wasn't leaving the house. And I don't feel like that, where I'm just, like, stir crazy.

Well, because you're also, like, a full-time mother. Right, there's so much going on. From the bed. Right, from the bed. Like, we're still podcasting. Like, I still have other work to do. And so, like, the day kind of, like, my day still has, like, structure and routine. Good. But I'm just, like, do. And so like the day kind of like my day still has like structure and routine. But I'm just like kind of doing everything from the bed.

But no, I feel good. Just, you know, for everyone who like knows the whole story of the cervix, like I'm just trying to keep it tight, keep it closed. You're really pregnant. Like you have you honestly like have like a round belly. Yeah, it's mad big. And like all the you know pregnancy like all your organs are like compressed and so I'm just like short of breath and oh no it's like

it's just a lot but it's all good okay thank god fabulous we love the bed I was having this conversation at dinner with Taylor Strecker because she um her and Taylor like always asking about you making sure you're good and she she was like, is Jackie, like, loving bed rest? Like, hating bed rest? Because, like, for me, you know, bed rest sounds like heaven. I'm like, no, same. But Jackie has, like, a one-year-old. Like, it's not the same. Like, it's actually torture. Yeah, it's not the same. It's actually torture. And it's like, I'm in New York and there's so many things that, like, I wish I could be doing here. But I guess like if I wouldn't be in New York if not for like the circumstances.

So it's like fruitless to just be like I wish we could be doing this and that. But there's like you know there's a couple things. It's like it would be so nice to just be able to go and do. Right. That I can't do. Even like going to the studio is like a treat. Yeah. And I'm here and I can't do it.

But it is what it is. No and Harry's loving life in New York. Yeah. And I'm here and I can't do it. But it is what it is. No, and Harry's loving life in New York. Yeah, he is. He loves the adventure. He's booked and busy every day. I can't even get time with him on the calendar. Yeah, you got to get on his schedule. His schedules are kind of crazy.

It's kind of crazy. Yeah, it's kind of crazy because he wakes up at six. So like half his day is spent before you even wake up. No, and it's like I wake up and podcast. And then by the time I'm done podcasting, Harry's ready for his nap. Yeah. So it's like I can't really like logically see him on the weekdays before 2 o'clock. Yeah.

Because then he has to like have lunch. You guys don't sync really before 1. It's true. It sucks. And something that I've just been kind of waiting to say um since uh a few minutes ago is that what I've noticed yeah is that underneath your sweatshirt today it seems as though you're wearing spooky scary skeleton pajamas a new addition yeah okay I put these on intentionally to podcast with you from home I wanted to give you like a little bit of a spook but then right before we started I got

freezing so I put a sweatshirt on on top. So I know you can't see. I'm wearing matching pants. You can't get it by me. You can't get it by me. I'm wearing matching pants and top of my new spooky, scary skeleton pajamas. For those who know, who've been following for a while, the pajamas I wore pretty much every day for the last five years have disintegrated. And I did toss them. People were really mad. They're like, how could you not keep them? Like, take them to the tailor.

I'm like, OK, we need to be like. You don't know the sweeper'm like okay we need to know this you don't know the sweeper if that's what you think you don't know the sweeper that's true not only do I sweep like I my house like if there's clutter it's gone in a second I don't have anything I don't need in this house but also like we're headed for a recession like I'm not about to you know spend a hundred dollars repairing a pair of pajamas from Target okay like we have to logic has entered the room yeah and she's the sweeper that was like when we were talking about sandwiches people were giving us recommendations they're like turdy you have to try like cheese mayo lettuce and tomato i'm like have you met turdy are you new here they said mayo mayo can you imagine somebody telling

me that they said well it's nice to have new toasters you know so I'm not gonna knock it so I'm not gonna knock it I'm so thankful to everyone it's a sign of new life it's a sign of new life if you guys don't know that turdy would never touch mayo with a 10-foot pole um yet her husband is made of mayo yeah then welcome to the toast we should do a patreon kind of like those games they play on watch watch robbins live wood turdy, eat it. And you just like rattle off things and I probably wouldn't eat most of them. So the answer is no.

Yeah, it would just be like kind of a boring episode. Like no, no, no, no. Yeah, but there's some weird things that you eat. Like two. True, cottage cheese. Yeah, I guess that's the only one. No, I also weirdly eat. Do you like ailte fish?

Jackie, BFFR. Be fucking for real. Yeah, but sometimes you'll put aside your distaste for things like when it comes to your culture. Kaszafarniska. Kaszafarniska. Like you would never catch me eating lentils, but kaszafarniska, the traditional eastern european dish love right so that's why i feel like gefilte fish isn't that

crazy no it is i love that's like the of all like the jewish foods that's probably the craziest one and i know claudia there's like crazy like intestines like oh yeah like kreplach yeah even chopped but no even chopped liver liver that's chopped that's but i still i stand by that gefilte is like still one of the crazier ones okay you just got to get a little horseradish on it so absolutely not that's so never gonna happen so good um like i guess i guess right We could dive in. I guess. If we must. Yeah, yeah.

There, yeah, there's some things that we need to discuss that need Turdy and I's take. I guess. I just, like, would so much prefer to keep talking about ourselves. I know. I can't believe, believe, I can't believe how, like, the Fast Five is really in its flop era. No it is. Jackie and I were having this conversation before we recorded because she spent 40 minutes looking for stories and when it shouldn't be that hard. And the Fast Five is definitely in its flop era but I don't feel like it has anything to do with us. It is the summer. Everything no matter you know what

industry you work in. I guess unless you work in like pools. But the summer is slow for everyone and everything. Or camps. Yeah. Celebrities are like sunblock, you know. Or if you live in like a summer beach town. Yeah, like if you're like in Montauk or something. Or like cousins. But like besides that.

Do you like my reference to the kids? Cousins, I did. Besides that, like it's notoriously slow for a lot of industries. Pop culture being one of them. Celebrities are in Greece, in the south of France. They're not making news. They're taking the summer off. So I don't feel bad that the Fast Five is in its flop era, honestly. Yeah, no, and it's just like anything else.

It comes in waves and things go up and down. It has nothing to do with the Fast Five as a premise or anything. It's just it's crazy but maybe that's just because we're like also we in our personal banter are in our what's the opposite of flop era um I don't know wait that's like a really good question like peaking yeah I guess you know I guess because oh my god I did something so crazy the other day and I watched a little bit of an episode of the toast from April 2018 the first month of the toast which is like how I know you think it would be horrible and like that I would that it's

self-harm to do such a thing yeah but honestly it was really cute and good no Jackie my mole I was so ugly that was before my chin surgery before my mole removal okay fine but you but you sat on your other side so like we didn't see your mole okay okay obviously like it wasn't perfect and I'm so glad we got rid of YouTube live because we were always just looking at our phones reading the comments like yeah yeah like waiting for people to respond so lame but one it was really cute and two we literally got into the fast five after one minute of speaking no I mean I'm looking at my my computer right now it's been 30 minutes I know but I was like shocked I was like girls what's going on in your lives why are we getting into the stories maybe we had nothing going on honestly that was kind of you know a dark time for us a quiet time for us it was quiet on all fronts social personal business

yeah maybe that's what it was but honestly I was mostly surprised with how little I cringed considering like oh that's good thing that I that is in the rear view is cringeworthy to me yes but I actually that feels familiar I feel like when I've seen like old clips like we're considering like everything that I that is in the rear view is cringeworthy to me. Yes but I actually that feels familiar. I feel like when I've seen like old clips like we're so funny. Yeah we're just like cute and we're having fun and we're young and taking a chance you know trying something new putting ourselves out there starting our own business like it's sweet. When we started the toast we truly were the definition of two people with nothing to lose. Like, we had nothing. Like, literally, we didn't have a brand deal.

Like, we were so, we were like renegade outlaws, radioactive. Like, we had nothing to lose. And honestly, there's truly nothing funnier than somebody with nothing to lose. Yeah, but I feel like as much as, yeah, we had nothing to lose. So we were willing to, you know, put it all out there and we weren't like embarrassed or anything but I also feel like we were we were really scared you know I wouldn't say we were like renegade be just like being crazy no we we so desperately wanted and needed this show to be good like we needed it to work we had had a successful show and we were like we are not going down like this yeah and we just like wanted people to like us like we were just

like I felt you know what you're so right we're a little shy no I felt like my name had been like besmirched if that's the correct word and I felt so strongly that people were wrong about us like they you know ever we got canceled everybody hated us and they were wrong about us because like we are funny we are amazing we are such we I know we are like I know who we are we are an amazing group of people and I was I was motivated to make people see that because I felt like they're wrong they are wrong about us and they were yeah it's true and they were look at us now oh baby look at us now look at us now 32 minutes of pre-fast five look at us now podcasting from home in the spooky scary skeleton pajamas not much has changed spooky scary yeah the more things change the more they stay the same spooky scary

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Our first story, some new couple news. Milkshake singer Khalees is reportedly dating actor Bill Murray. I'm having a stroke. Shook, confused, I'm feeling scared. Like I have quite literally no idea what's going on. Right. Okay. So the U.S. Sun reported that Khalees, who's 43, is reportedly dating the Ghostbusters actor, who is 72. Per the outlet, the two sparked romance rumors after Bill Murray watched the bossy singer perform at a recent show at the Mighty Hoopla Festival in South London last weekend. He was also spotted supporting her at some of her other performances.

Sources close to the pair told The Sun that they were also seen together at the same hotel and have been getting close for a while after first meeting in the U.S. Also, she posted some bikini pics from Greece this weekend and seemed to respond to the rumors because someone commented ma'am would you care to address these Bill Murray allegations because damn what's he doing with all that and she said lol no babe I wouldn't bother at all so I feel like she's saying I wouldn't bother to comment on these rumors yeah right right not that she wouldn't

bother with Bill Murray right but who who knows I mean but I'm choosing to believe this couple and I ship I really do okay here's what's so funny because when you were like saying their age difference I was like oh that's like really not so bad like she's 42 um but like if he was 40 and she was 10 like like the 30 you know what I mean like the 30 years like it's actually a lot for sure 30 years is a lot but you cannot compare the 30 years between 10 and 40 to the 30 years between 40 and 70 of course by the way my math was wrong I'm sorry I didn't I didn't mean to like make a joke out of that for not 40 and 10 like 20 and 50 we would be like ew but that's because like a 20 year old's brain like isn't fully developed and they're not like mature enough even still like the older you get like

those big age gaps aren't as big of a deal because like you are who you are at that point like and there's not that much the rapid development that happens when you're younger like really slows down once you get older so yes I thought you were gonna say 42 year old man and 72 year old woman if we would be saying the same thing it would depend on the couple honestly I think I would I think I'd be saying the same thing. It would depend on the couple. Honestly. I think I would. I think I'd be saying the same thing. Yeah. I ship too. To be honest.

I wasn't entirely familiar. With. Her. Like. I obviously know Milkshake. But I don't like know her. As a person. Or like an artist.

So if anything. Like Bill Murray. Kind of making her a star. Is. Is everything. Yeah. I'm totally here for it. I feel like people are really surprised but but are here for it still positive yes I agree and I can't I don't keep up with Bill Murray either so I don't really know like what the

what the read is on him like there's some bad stuff like is he not like beloved he was beloved and then like very recently I think he was like fired from a movie or there was like I'm not entirely sure but like there were some weird things he was being accused of like you know not being like the most appropriate got it so that's starting to ring familiar I feel like we had a story on it yes right but like for so long he was like and I think he still is like considered one of the greatest comedy actors and very well respected but I do think he's had like you know a change in likeability over the last few years. Yeah just like his schtick hasn't aged well. Right right and you know what you can't be doing comedy for that long without, you know, without the consequences.

Yeah. So, I mean, to me this is like an age-appropriate relationship, weirdly. Yeah. And so I should. It's cute. Yeah, I have quite literally no problem with this. Yeah. Wishing them the best, honestly.

Wishing them the best. Our next story, some other, not new couple news, but just two people in the same room. And I want to take your temperature. Okay. A source says that Irina Shayk threw herself at Tom Brady at an A-list wedding this weekend. And you would do it too. Spies told Page Six that famed model Irina Shayk made a beeline for newly single tom brady um at the much talked about wedding of joe namad and madison nahidrick last week and scarcely let

him out of her sight throughout the weekend long festivities but shakes manager strenuously denied that account telling page six it's totally fictional but they were both guests at the billionaire art airs wedding in Sardinia last week. Okay, well, let's just like talk about this as if it's true. Because let me just say how I can see this being true. Because Irina Shayk is a woman, you know, she's a human being. And even though she's perfect and is dated, you know, the finest men that this country has to offer, she's still human.

And Tom Brady is the most eligible bachelor right now. And like her taste is the finest men that this country has to offer. She's still human and Tom Brady is the most eligible bachelor right now. And like her taste is the finest men that this country has to offer. Tom Brady is that. And Tom Brady's taste is the finest woman model. Honestly, Irina Shayk and Giselle are so similar looking and they have like really similar vibes. I could see her thinking oh he would be into me he was into Giselle yeah no like this is such a duh I can't believe we didn't think of it sooner yeah right I do hope that they conversed this weekend I feel like all they would need to do is have a conversation to realize like oh we should date even if even if we don't work out like you're my type I'm your type we're both single duh no Jackie like Irina Shayk is copy and paste Giselle Tom Brady is copy and paste Bradley Cooper like this is literally the same couple but just like

a little different yeah yeah it makes it makes a lot of sense I mean I found my Irina Shayk and people are saying this about me I'm mortified no whether it was true or not like the most desperate things about Irina shake like that about how she's so desperate like how she's so desperate to have Bradley back like that she just moves in a desperate way and I don't know if that's just who she is or like someone's out to get her but it's like no by the way it's not nice somebody's totally out to get her because like the last couple of things we've like spoken about by the way. It's not nice. Somebody's totally out to get her because like the last couple of things we've like spoken about her

it's like she's not like coming off looking amazing. And she's constantly coming off like she's conning Bradley Cooper into getting back together with her. Yes. And she's like staging photos to make it look like they're together

when they're not. And I don't know who's doing this to her but she has enemies. Yeah either she has enemies or she's a desperate person. And honestly, if she's a desperate person, like, I've truly, like, I never thought I would have anything in common with Irina Shayk. And, like, it really makes me relate to her. Like, even the most beautiful women in the world are, like,

desperate for attention and love. And you know what? That's the great equalizer, desperation. Yeah, but I guess, like, when your type is the greatest man that this country has to offer, you got to be desperate yeah you it's it's a hard place to be like maybe if she could like lower her bar a little bit like there would be more men like more a bigger pool and she wouldn't have to act so desperately I just want to say like obviously I'm a married woman and I'm not you know like a great beauty

I'm not like one of the most beautiful women I'm not like one of the most beautiful women in the country but like if I was can I tell you and I really feel like this be true like I feel like I would not be going after the Tom Brady's and the Bradley Cooper's like it's too much pressure I feel like they're so much better in like idea than they are in actuality I feel like you know they're not gonna have like the best personalities and then it's like I have to be perfect my whole life because like men age so well like I would honestly like no and I feel like I say this all the time like nobody has has designed a life better for themselves than Miranda Kerr so what would you go for I would go for like the tech billionaire nerd who's like still cute and

handsome but he's not like the greatest hottest like Evan Spiegel is very handsome he's like a cute Jewish nerd he will age normally like he's not Bradley Cooper he's not Tom Brady like he's very normal and Miranda Kerr is still at the top of her game like maybe a time will come where she doesn't want to be so beautiful anymore like Like, she could just relax, you know? Yeah. I do still think, like, he is a choice that's still at that, like, level of. No. He's not at the same level as Tom Brady or Bradley Cooper. No, no.

Just because, like, Tom Brady and Bradley Cooper, like, yeah, they're, like, not real. Right. But still, like, with Evan Spiegel, you got to behave still, Turdy. Of course, of course, of course. But, like, I feel like the pressure within Evan Spiegel is so much better than the pressure with, like, a Bradley Cooper. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

Like, I just, I look at her. I've recently started following Miranda Kerr on, like, every social media platform. And she's killing it. She's killing it. But also, he is, like, the most handsome tech mogul. killing it but also he is like the most handsome tech mogul so like she went for the most handsome one okay there's not like so much competition with like handsome tech moguls they're not like a lot of handsome ones so yes I agree with that but it's a different pool than like the upper echelon a A, A, A, A, A plus. You know who's another person who did it right?

Jasmine Tewks. Who's she with? Okay, so her husband, I just, I want to get this right. Honestly, low-key, a lot of those model girls have really nice marriages. Okay, he is a businessman and media personality

who also works at Snapchat. That's why I have an association. He's the director of international markets. But they had this like insane wedding. I believe he's like very high up in government or like he has like something. Oh sorry. Yes. He's the son of Ecuadorian vice president. So when they got married I think they got married somewhere and it was like fancy and like there were like diplomats and stuff like she runs in a fabulous circle of people. OK, let me ask you about another one. Sure. Rosie Huntington Whiteley and Jason Statham. OK, very interesting as well, because he's like technically like a good looking actor but he's he's a real person I feel.

Yeah okay so he's a good looking actor but like when you see these two people together like she's infinitely better looking than him. Like if he was a regular dude like sorry nobody would think he was handsome. He's just handsome because he's like an actor and he's cute. He's not like. No he's handsome. He's really handsome and he's like he. And he's like, he has something very, like, he's always playing like a handsome man. He's Jason Bourne. That's what it is. So he's like, you know, a daredevil, like a Bond type. Yeah. Yeah. That's handsome. Yeah. I mean, but she's much taller than him. Like, I think they're evenly matched. And I think they're like a real love match. I think they've been in love for like a really long

time. And I ship and I love. I think she also did very well yeah it's so interesting like you really you obviously have a lot of options when you're a part of like the most beautiful women in the world but you want to make like a lasting marriage and I think these three women did an amazing job and you got to get creative a little bit like you don't go for the obvious choice that's what I'm saying you don't go for and I wouldn't either no but Irina Shay keeps going for the obvious. Yeah, remember when she was with Kanye? Like, it's just so obvious. Like, come on, girl.

Like, you need to punch down just a little bit. I think if you really want to make it work. Yeah. I don't know. Hopefully she'll hear this. Hopefully she'll hear this. But I hope she got a date with Tom Brady. Win a date with Tom Brady.

Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Shawn Mendes is causing a little controversy with his new single and album art. And you know what? Like I'm about to become like a Karen because I'm with the people giving backlash, which I never am, but it's a question mark. Yeah, no. Shawn Mendes was slammed for using a photo of new york city engulfed in wildfire smoke

to promote his new single so he came out with a song on friday and it's called what the hell are we all what the hell are we dying for and the artwork for the single is the pictures of new york like one of the pictures of new york orange from last week. Right. And the, you know, New York was orange because like people's homes are burning down. Like it's not cool to use that. From Canadian wildfires, yes. Oh, and let's keep in mind, Sean is a Canadian king.

Like this felt very bizarre. And like, this is just one of those situations where it's like, you know, many people had to approve this or like, you know, make the artwork. And not one of them was like, is this a bad idea? Yeah, that is

weird it's just weird and I feel like he was intentionally provocative but it's like not doing what he thinks it's doing yeah no and it's like I'm all actually about being intentionally provocative but I don't see what like the good side of this provocation is like I only see this like feeling icky and weird and what was the artwork gonna be before um before last right right because he like posted this on like Friday and literally the wildfire like smoke ended in New York on Friday yeah and it was like I'm sure he recorded the song the week before like what was the plan before that right like that picture he used was taken Thursday yeah was that Thursday what was that was like the worst day Thursday really no Wednesday and no it was both actually they were both Wednesday and

Thursday were both terrible okay but this is you know I hate to jump on a bandwagon of backlash because most of the time backlash is moronic and like okay we shouldn't kill Shawn Mendes but like no this was definitely a bad choice like I'm I'm just not I actually don't think there's that much backlash like considering how fucking weird it is maybe just because like Shawn Mendes is like not on everyone's radar uh it's not like it's like taken over headline news like Shawn Mendes canceled it's just like oh that's fucking weird yeah I feel like this is just one of those situations where a celebrity is they really like don't live in the real world. And every now and then we get a glimpse of like how out of touch they are.

And this is just one of those things. It's giving like imagine video. Yeah and I also could see it like people on his team being like I don't know Sean. I don't know if that's your best idea. And him being like no this is it. This is important. Like this is the message. This is the moment.

Oh my God totally. Like what are is the message. This is the moment. Oh, my God, totally. And just kind of. Like, what are we doing if we're not doing this? And, like, pushing it down the field and making it happen. Because I could. I think a lot of people would see this and be like, I don't know, Sean. This feels off. Yeah.

By the way, him and Camilla, broken. Why? I don't know. I guess they, like, tried to give it another chance. You know, maybe they broke up, and sometimes you just need closure. But they broke up. I just don't understand why they clearly love each other so much. Do you think they broke up over this picture?

No, they broke up before. They broke up before. Maybe she knew maybe she was the one trying to tell him yeah I could see that yeah because I feel like Camilla's like definitely really connected to like her fans in the real world and like maybe Sean's just like a little too because Sean's much more famous and maybe that's like the underlying issue in their relationship all the time it's like he's he lives in a fantasy world yeah and then this was like the straw that broke the camel's back it's like if you think that that's good PR.

Normal. We clearly have less in common than I thought. Yeah. Maybe this was the straw that broke the camel's back. Even though that's probably not at all what happened. It's the narrative I choose to believe. I'm with you girl. Especially when they don't give us anything.

Like okay. So I'll make something up. So I'll make it up. Literally. And then the one thing they do give us is the picture of the Canada wildfire. this is all I have from this week and I know that they broke up I'm gonna say the two are related the two are inextricably linked yes well wishing them the best I didn't hear Shawn's new song not that I like really would listen to like a new Shawn Mendes song like the second it comes out but I definitely was like oh

Shawn Mendes is like in like a weird space right now because he just put out this weird thing he is in a weird space and no he is not dating Sabrina no he's not and maybe that's what's wrong maybe I don't know Shawn Mendes has good songs though like when I do listen to them in my blood like that's a pussy popping song. Do you got plans tonight? I'm a couple hundred miles from Japan and I. That's a good song. Yeah. And the other one, Blended or something?

Also, does he have a song called Wonder? I wonder what it's like to be loved by you. Maybe that's what I meant by blended. For me? What? Maybe you're just like always thinking about that Drew Barrymore movie blended maybe but you know what I'm going through my Shawn Mendes um does he have a song called blended no I think it was wonder I think it was wonder but it's just like one word song you know yeah sure um also I think one of Shawn Mendes's better songs is the first song he ever released after vine it's like giving very much like soundtrack to a disney channel movie it's

called something big something big i feel it happening out of my control so good oh he's also on the descendant soundtrack a disney king with a song called Believe that's in my saved songs. Must be good. Must be good. Mm-hmm. Well, I just hope, you know, Sean Mendez can learn and grow from this and do better. I hope so, too. Do better, Sean. The thing is, I don't think that he's going to, like, I don't think he's apologized or anything. Like, he's taking a stand.

Yeah, no, he's like, this is what I was. Haters be damned. Like this is what I want to say. This is the moment. Totally. That's what he's saying. So I don't think there'll be any doing better from him. Damn.

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It's the fourth. Oh. I'm just thinking of ways that you could eat on a podcast and get away with it. Maybe AI could figure that out one day. Maybe AI could figure that out one day. Until then, I'll starve. Next. So Khloe and Tristan's son tatum had uh the last name kardashian at birth and later changed it to thompson tmz reports so chloe wasn't messing around when her son was born giving him

the last name kardashian instead of tristan's last name but later had a change of heart sources with direct knowledge tell us tatum thompson as he's now known was initially legally a kardashian the sources say tatum also wasn't his first's now known was initially legally a kardashian the sources say tatum also wasn't his first name though we're not sure what first name chloe originally chose for the kiddo eventually chloe decided to drop the kardashian name and now tatum's legal name is tatum thompson moving forward i think at first he was baby because she couldn't decide on a name and that's also something that we've seen in um this season so far is like her being not unsure of his name but like they are calling him Robert I think

for a while like maybe his name was going to be Robert or maybe like Chris really wanted it to be Robert and she decided on Tatum Robert so another one who's having a journey with her child's name yeah and also I think people are looking into this as like you know Khloe and Tristan's relationship but I'm sure she wants Tatum to have the same last name as True I think Khloe went with the T names because Thompson like Khloe Kardashian True Thompson it's like an alliteration thing so I don't think there's like this means anything yeah well no I mean the only thing that means something is like when she initially didn't use Tristan's last name like that yeah I guess she must have maybe she was

just mad at him maybe but I think or she knew that um the name was going to change because if it was like baby Kardashian when at first until she came up with Tatum like if she knew it was going to change eventually then she could add the Thompson yeah yeah I'm just choosing like not to look into this too much you know no but it's just interesting and again to me I'm like now so interested in one like celebrity baby names to like the baby naming experience in general and three like baby name trepidation and regret okay let me ask you a question at this point in your first pregnancy did you know that you were gonna go with Harry yes like Harry's always been like a boy name that I loved and then our family has loved and now for a little baby Larry you have

nothing no no I have I have choices which is actually more than I had for Harry like I didn't really have um a second choice for Harry and except for Wolf. And that was only the week before when Kylie named her baby Wolf. Somebody needs to use that name. Like, it's so cool. It's such a cute name, but it's just like, it was like Kylie said, like, he's not a wolf. So if you don't have a wolf, and there's no way to know when they're born,

whether or not they will be a wolf. Well, we know now, like, Harry was a wolf. And you think his name should be Wolf? No. No, but he could have been Wolf. Yeah wolf yeah like he would have carried the name with pride yeah so now I feel like more like how most people feel which is just like we have a bunch of choices and I'm just waiting to see each day I feel like more akin to a different choice and I also will wait like I'm not making any decisions yet but it's just so hard I know it's so hard it is so hard and you could see Chloe struggling with it in this episode and she said they're not allowed to call him Tate I think Tate is such a cute name for Tate I think it's the

cutest thing ever like tater tot like Tate's cookies my favorite t i actually love the name tate love and tatum but chris tried to call him tate she said no that was also like just an interesting scene in that um most recent episode i just felt like chloe was like just she's going through it yeah she was just struggling and she wasn't her normal bubbly welcoming effervescent self like she's like having like a tough time with this baby. And I think, like, in a few months, like, maybe she'll come around to Tate. I just think she was, like, in a bad mood. And she was just, like, she was just saying no to life.

Yeah, no, she's going through, like, a hard period in life in general. Like, she had the cancerous cell on her face. Tumor. And she has, like, this drama with Tristan. She's, like, very anxious in general and just, like, having a hard time in the public eye. And she's, like, struggling with having a new baby that she didn't give birth to

and, like, struggling to bond with the baby and didn't anticipate that whatsoever. I have to say, Chloe has shared a lot on the show. But I thought her you know being honest about how surrogacy was like not what she thought it was going to be was so probably one of the most honest things I've heard anyone say I'm sure at some point she felt like shame associated with that and like didn't want to share it but the fact that she did is like so like Chloe is constantly out here like laying it all out for this show and she's really like the unsung hero

of this show. No it's true and like maybe the unsung hero of this show. No, it's true. And, like, maybe people even, like, if you watch the episode, Khloe's, like, not giving what she usually gives. But I actually think she's giving more. Of course, because she's really going through it. And, like, saying things that not many people have said or would say. Yeah. And, like, I'm sure she was feeling like people would judge her for it.

But, like, honestly, I feel like it's the most brave, honest thing say yeah and like I'm sure she was feeling like people would judge her for it but like honestly I feel like it's the most brave honest thing anybody's ever said on reality tv I like I was shocked when I heard it yeah I love Chloe like she's really far and away the best character on the show close second to Chris oh for me right now it's Chloe and Kylie yeah but Kylie's just not on it a lot I know but she just can do no wrong by me right now no and she's just so fabulous and I feel like she's made it a point for like a really long time to not let people like know who she really is like I think the only the people around her know I think she's like kind of quirky and weird we don't know that like she shows us what she wants to show us she had that privilege because she was the. And by the time it was her time to shine, the show was successful.

They didn't need her to like bleed out. And every time we get like a little glimpse into her actual personality, it's so interesting. But we don't get a lot. No, we don't. But she's like kind of crazy. But maybe that's how she maintains like a pretty good head on her shoulders. Because like I feel like Kendall struggles with that I feel like every time Kendall like wants to put herself out there like she's brutally rebuffed by

the fans and like she's like roasted picks apart everything that she does and she already like has anxiety struggles and I feel like Kylie actually has pretty sound mental health probably because she delineates really well like what she'll share of herself agreed I agree and she like became a mom so young so she like took time off especially when things were like at the height of like her fame in particular like she went MIA like she was pregnant and then like not sharing she really I feel like of all them has like the healthiest balance and that's like a privilege because she was the youngest and like so much was done for her yes I wonder if any of the girls like resent her for that oh I'm sure they're that they probably more so resent her for like not filming and not opening up and sharing right but then like

becoming a billionaire first for like all the work that kind of you know the OG girlies did yeah I'm sure there's some of that but not enough because she keeps doing what she's doing. Like, they don't get her into, like, joining the show in a real way. Right. And it just, I think it's interesting how there's obviously, like, a conversation, and we're still having it. We had it on the old show, and we're having it now, about Kourtney's commitment to filming when Kylie, like, does less.

Yeah. But I think it's, like, when the family sits down and they, like, talk about, do we want to do another season? I think Kylie probably votes no like yeah and it's just I don't know it's no it's interesting it is interesting because I actually think like however they split up their money from Hulu I don't know how it how it's done Kylie does not need that to live but I actually believe Kourtney probably does. Yeah. Maybe not now that she's, like, in a marriage with someone who's, like, equally as successful as her.

And if they share finances, like, I'm sure that's great. But, like, between Lemmy, Poosh, like, she needs the show. Yeah. No, and also when she was doing the Today Show on last week's episode and she said how, like, for all those years, like, everyone was like, what's your brand? What's your brand? And she's like, I'm doing the show. this is my full-time job so that's her job and she needs yeah right right because I just don't think she has enough wealth to like not continue to work forever yeah agreed which yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story

I Jen yeah I am you are okay because it's an interesting conversation that's happening the tides are kind of turning a little bit in the world of Scandaval very slowly but um there's been a shift so first Lala Kent was captured uh talking to paparazzi uh TMZ caught her at the airport and she's kind of giving more of a changing tune on Raquel. So Lala changed her attitude toward Raquel after watching her scandal scarred co-star cry and tell the truth about her affair with Tom on Vanderpump Rules. Lala said when she finally had the breakdown just as a human for me it's like it's a reality TV show.

When I watched that I was like oh we may be dealing with someone who maybe shouldn't be on this type of platform. When asked whether she had become more empathetic and less angry at Raquel, she sarcastically replied, am I empathetic? Shocker. I don't know how other people feel about the last five minutes, but I did sit there and go, she needs some real help and I pray that she got it. Yeah, there's definitely, and that's what we had said right when we recapped

Vanderpump Rules third reunion is like, it felt like not that she was doing it intentionally but I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a wave of of sympathy for Raquel because when you can't watch that and think that that person is like is okay she was not in any way okay and I think now in hindsight like everybody now it's done and we're all just like looking at the situation like at a glance kind of like the chapter is closed and in no way has Tom Sandoval had any redeeming moments I still think he's very much the villain of this whole story and like he's actually a bad person not a person who made a mistake I think Raquel is a person who made a mistake because she's so vulnerable and easily manipulated and clearly has mental health issues like she it, it kind of seemed like during, you know, the fallout,

she was very much disassociating. Like, which I think is a natural reaction to like protect yourself. And people were like, that gave people even more fuel. Like, she's not remorseful. And then we saw the moment where like all of the consequences of her actions finally hit her. And I think, I think it, it probably um like destroyed her and that's what we saw yeah so I feel like people are definitely even one degree more sympathetic towards Raquel after

one she came clean I feel like it's even you know in like a a police case it's like the person who tells the truth that gets a less harsh sentence yeah and I feel like that's how it is right now like we just appreciate that she's being honest and she's exposing Tom Sandoval like even further um but there's also this small conversation that I'm starting to see people saying of the way that Raquel was treated at the reunion was not something that was acceptable and even though everyone is hurt and everyone has their feelings like the way she was spoken to the things that were said to her are not how you treat fellow human beings yes and you know what I I don't fully disagree with that I think it's also just that trope of like you either die the hero you know Ariana Lala Katie or you live long enough to become the villain like now that we've been you know rooting and

championing them so hard I think a lot of people are like, okay, well like telling another human being that they are nothing and they have not a single person in this world that cares about them. Like that's what you say to someone. Like, you know, like it's a little extreme. It's a little extreme and it's dark. And to all be like rooting for this,

it does feel icky. And I think that it went too far and also like these people and I said this to you last week not on the show but like these the people on banner pump rules like who are also like giddy and gleeful about like the the them going down it's like they don't know how to win with grace and just like rise above and not get on like now they're all on the same level to me right like in the trenches okay cool so now you're like just as nasty as the people that you think you're so much better than right and I think this conversation started because people who don't know like the full story or like

the layers in the history just saw like a girl being literally told the worst things you can tell a human being and it's like you say that to a murderer you know you don't say that to a girl who like obviously what she did is horrible but like to a girl who made a mistake no and it's it's not just one mistake I don't want to like downplay what they did because what they did was really like it requires a level of scheming and lying and betrayal and an intrinsic insidiousness to lie to your best friend for months and like it's messed up on every single level just she's still a person and to all for all of us to endorse like this pile on yeah it just like it's a little icky and I didn't like notice it until people started to say it. And I'm like, yeah, there was something that just felt...

Too far. Too far. And you're the good guys. You're supposed to be the good guys. You just don't... You'd be better off just writing her off and ignoring her than getting down to their level. I am so curious what the future holds for Raquel

does she continue to film does she you know kind of leave public life forever I know her family is like really worried about her and like doesn't want her back on the show whatsoever and I don't think that I think she comes from like a like a like a money like I don't think she needs you know this job no I'm sure like the job is it's a big job and it's a big paycheck and even if her parents like might support her they can't support her for the rest of her life like no but like temporarily and like live at home for a little bit but like that's not a career but I think if she's serious about her mental health like she cannot come back to the show yeah no. No, I think it's an –

But if it's just a play to get back into the next season and, like, you know, to rehabilitate her image, then – I don't think it is. Jackie, that was, like, not – like, she's not an actress. No, I don't think that it is either, and I don't think that it should be. And if she is in that sort of place that's as serious as, like, we think it is, then I imagine that they would be telling her, like, you need to make different choices.

Yeah, yeah. I imagine that they would be telling her like you need to make different choices. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how that explains like the postcards and the letters being sent to Tom's house from her facility. Like they're still and you know that TMZ photo we spoke about last week where he was like on the phone with her. Because she did turn on him. Yeah. So what does it mean? I don't know.

We'll have to wait and see. I'll be so I mean I as much as she needs to exit reality tv like I also think she needs to whenever she's done with um treatment and when she's in a good place like maybe just sit down and like talk about everything like with more distance yeah um because whatever she wants to do like next with her life like it's still her name that has been yep completely tarnished. And like she's already given this much of herself to public life. Like what's one more interview where she can just speak. It will be interesting to hear what she has to say.

Yeah. She's just kind of the most interesting person in this scandal who has yet to speak. Even at the reunion, she said a whole bunch of nothing. Yeah. No, and she just sat there and she took it. She just took it. Which is, honestly, what else could she have done? Yeah.

Yeah. It's definitely an interesting conversation, and I don't know what the right, like, answer is, but I think people kind of identifying, like, a weirdness that they felt for this girl like is fair yeah I think so too and I think people like a sadness are then like disappointed in Bravo that they would like air that they wouldn't be able to see that this has gone too far you know yeah yeah but that's so Bravo yeah they don't like actually take any moral stands unless like no unless the fans yeah right right right very interesting very interesting uh so we shall see what's next but now it's time for

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is like, are Carla and Lindsay, you know, being treated fairly? Or is this, you know, something they've had coming for years? Okay, I can't speak about coming for years because I haven't watched every season of Summer House. I watched last season. So I know like some of the dynamics. And I've watched throughout the years. And anytime I've ever watched, like Lindsay is just like not for me.

Like she's not someone that I could see myself, like, being friends with. Not because of anything that she does. Just, like, her energy and her personality is, like, not my favorite type of girl. Like, which is totally fine. I gravitate. Totally fine. Totally fine. Totally fine.

Which is why I'm so shocked this season. Like, I am so team Lindsay. Like, on a. Me too. On just a scruples level. And it's not about who I like and I'm just defending who I ride for because obviously I love Paige.

But Paige isn't really involved. She's just kind of a cheerleader because it's really Lindsay versus Danielle. But the whole house has taken Danielle's side because also they just don't like Lindsay and Carl. And and by the way my experience with Summer House is similar to yours except for that like when it came to the drama I always felt like what Lindsay was doing was so wrong and I never understood why there wasn't this like reckoning for Lindsay like she kind of got away with so much and treated people so poorly and she was always wrong and I was like

why is there not this like you know the way they like ousted Hannah like they they always have these like roasts of people and Lindsay never got that so if you would have told me that like this is the season like everyone held Lindsay accountable I'd be like great but what they're holding her accountable for they are so wrong on they're so wrong I have no I've seen no issue with Lindsay and Carl's relationship if anything like all the other relationships in the house are so unserious. And it's so funny to watch these people try and tell Lindsay and Carl like how their relationship should be. Even like Danielle throughout the season is trying to be like, well, you guys should be fighting.

Like, first of all, Danielle and her boyfriend broke up like two minutes later. So it's just, you know, and even in their relationship, like they had a very different structure than Lindsay and Carl, who were immediately serious right off the bat. Danielle and Robert moved in together for two months after they met each other, and then they have a hard time seeing each other, and he works all the time and prioritizes that. So Danielle's like, you guys should be fighting. Then Lindsay and Carl get into a fight. And then the next morning, they're just acting normal, and she's like,

well, you can't sweep it under the rug now. You have to talk about your fight more. It's like, why are you policing how they handle their relationship like you aren't the moral authority on relationships one and two like so they had a fight which is what you want and now they're not handling the aftermath of their fight the way that you wanted to that was the interesting thing about the reunion is like we're now all involved in Lindsay and Carl's relationship and so they're obviously like dealing with this thing where like Lindsay likes to drink and and party but you know obviously Carl struggles and like that's something they're actively working on they said they're in therapy

and that's another thing where it's like when Lindsay wasn't drinking for Carl they're like Lindsay's not being so weird Lindsay's not being herself that she's not drinking for Carl like that's not Lindsay then Lindsay starts to drink again and they're like how can Lindsay be drinking when Carl's not drinking. It's like what can they do. Everything they do is wrong. There was such a weird element to the reunion where it's like they're kind of you know talking about and analyzing things that go on in Carl and Lindsay's relationship. That like they're fully aware of and they're working through.

Like what relationship is perfect if anything. Like the fact that they had fights and that they're struggling with this like alcohol thing. Like that makes it normal and they're going to therapy and like I just feel like their relationship is like weirdly so healthy and everyone is doing everything they can to be like this relationship is toxic no their relationship is not weirdly but it's a serious relationship like from the moment they decided to start dating like they are on the path to engagement and marriage and all the other relationships in the house including Kyle and Amanda because what it took them 10 years,

are just like these non-serious things. And they look at Carl and Lindsay and think like they're extreme and they're the exception. When it's like, no, they're just, they've committed to a different sort of relationship than the rest of you have, who are just like, I don't know,

fucking around for a few years, don't care. But one, Lindsay and Carl are older than them too not only that timeline that we're talking about like you have to remember it's so normal it's so normal people used to get married after six months of knowing each other and those relationships have lasted 50 years they moved in together after nine months she's a 35 year old woman who has known this man for seven years then three months later they're getting engaged and their engagement is about to be a year and change I can't tell you a more normal relationship with someone who when the minute you said you wanted to be their girlfriend you knew that you were serious about and wanted

to marry like the way that everyone is making them feel like they're so crazy if Danielle says hella fast one more time like I'm just like what is fast no what's normal is just sitting around for a bunch of years not sure about your relationship while you guys all share a bed with your friends right and you know walk around in thongs in front of each other's boyfriends that's more normal to you okay wait also I think what's so important is like the context is like yes Lindsay and Carl are older but like they've both in the last few years like experienced like deep trauma and tragedy that like that matures you you know Carl I think you can see it like between you know his you know entering sobriety and then losing his brother like that shit changes you

for life and like you become a more serious person you understand what's important in life Lindsay had a miscarriage like we saw last season how much that fucked with her and like I think really scared her so the fact that these two people like went through serious things and then decided to become serious people is literally not shocking it's like the most normal human reaction and I just don't understand the hatred for their relationship and like Danielle is so odd like her behavior and you know what her behavior was crazy But the fact that like everybody took her side, I think really empowered her to get even crazier, which is how we got to the engagement. Oh my God.

I told you yesterday, nothing on reality TV shocks me anymore just because we've been watching it for so long. Everything is just like so contrived. You know, like, yeah, Scandival shocked me, but it takes a lot. Danielle's reaction to her best friend getting engaged was the most shocking thing I have ever seen Zach and I were watching he doesn't really he didn't know what he was watching he's just been like coming in and out and he was like what's wrong with her like you're you find out your best friend is getting engaged to an actually another one of your best friends and you love them so

much you keep saying you would like take a bullet for their relationship and your instinct is to burst out in tears when she's like sobbing the girls are holding her like because your best friend got engaged like I yeah I can understand on some level could never be me but I'm I'm being open-minded I understand on some level how your two best friends are getting engaged and you would like to have been a part of it you know like he didn't reach out to you if it was one of my best friends and she was getting engaged and maybe he reached out to other friends but not me. Maybe I would after a few minutes of knowing that they're getting engaged I would be like oh I would have liked to you know help out.

No by the way same but I would never verbalize that maybe until a few months later if like we were drinking and I'd say you know what like I wish I was told. Like I would never say it out loud. I would have like moved on from it. Like but for it to be your first reaction and your only reaction and that like the joy that you feel for your friend who you've been with for so many years and you've watched her date all these losers and breakups and everything like that that girl is like finally getting her happily ever after your best friend has found joy even if it's like your the relationship is moving hella

fast for you that your initial reaction isn't just like so happy is so crazy and for it to be the complete opposite and and the fact that she even thinks that she should have been involved in their engagement when one she screamed the whole summer she's the whole summer carl said he's looking at rings she screamed into a pillow one hour before she found out they were getting engaged when uh someone said they might be getting engaged next weekend Danielle said if they're getting engaged next weekend I'm not coming no and by the way so that was the whole summer so that was before she even knew she wasn't a part of the engagement and she didn't want them to get engaged why on god's green diddly dally earth

would these people include you in their engagement no and then also this conversation like this witch hunt like did Lindsay know she was getting engaged? It's fake. They're fraudulent people. I want to tell you how every girl knows they're getting engaged. Like on a small level like they know it's happening in a certain time frame. Things don't just happen out of nowhere. Like you have conversations about whether you want to get married. What timeline you want to get married on. So like this witch hunt like if Lindsay even knew that makes her like a fraudulent person, that's just not true.

On some level, most girls know roughly, maybe not the exact hour of the day, but the week. Like they know on some level. And knowing is not this like, you know, people thought like if we could prove that Lindsay knew, it would show how fraudulent she is as a person. That's not true. So that conversation was so infuriating. And so let's say she did know so so I knew right and it's like if you know you're gonna get engaged should you like ruin the surprise just to be authentic yes you should look ugly no yeah you should be like are we heading to my engagement just so that people

don't question your authenticity yeah like it was such a stupid there were just so many conversations that were like quite literally we got so lost in the weeds on those conversations at the reunion and at the end of the day okay so let's say she knew what does that change literally nothing no literally that just means that they're in an honest and open relationship where they talk about the future but I also wasn't even convinced that she knew. Yeah, she looked extraordinarily nice for a bonfire. She's on a reality show. She was really shocked. I think she had gotten new extensions in general,

probably because she knew she was getting engaged soon-ish. So that kind of made her look a little more elevated. But who cares? No, like literally who cares? But I'm also not convinced that she knew. I thought that her reactions. I actually was really moved by their proposal. I thought it was really sweet. No Jackie like the way I'm now ship and stand this couple when like when I first heard they're dating I'm like oh that's weird. Like I really I didn't care much but the

way they've been just like nailed to a cross for what and by the way I was so deeply moved during the conversation how Carl basically just like an asshole told everyone that one time Carl no no sorry Kyle told everyone like an asshole that one time Carl showed up to work like having done cocaine which is clearly like a really huge regret of Carl's and like something he is probably really ashamed of and definitely works through in his recovery. And for him to like just totally let it go because of like what happened to him and his brother. He's like I know what it's like to say something you so deeply regret. And I didn't get a chance to like tell that person I was sorry. I thought was just really indicative of the type of person Carl is and has become.

And I'm not I'm just not going to be thinking he's a villain because I don't think a villain could be capable of forgiveness like that no I don't think he's a villain I actually made me really want to root for Kyle and Carl's friendship even though I don't know I haven't watched all the seasons so it doesn't mean as much to me as it means to other people but in that moment I was like oh these two people like need to figure it out and remain friends so also Andy like took a side he's been doing that like more recently it's always fun when it's like the side that you're on but it's really frustrating when it's not your side it's not he just like took the stance on the second part of the reunion that like

Danielle was justified in her feelings and that Lindsay um was cruel in her treatment of her which I completely disagree with and really made like Lindsay concede to things in order to move forward that I don't think that she needed to concede. And that was really frustrating to watch. I'm glad that they moved forward, but it didn't feel like it was a lasting truce because Lindsay was like apologizing for shit

that she literally doesn't need to be apologizing for. No, and Danielle's feelings are so crazy, and they were validated all season long by everyone in the house, giving her more fuel to, like, act even crazier. So for Andy to do that, too, like, I just didn't agree with. She didn't need the backup, if anything, like Lindsay and Carl did, because it was, like, them against the world. Also, not that there's anything else that anybody talks about on the season,

because everyone's obsessed with Lindsay and Carl, but I have a few other thoughts about the show itself if um if I may please I love Sam and Gabby the the first few episodes that I watched I watched like the first four when they aired and then I didn't watch until this weekend and I really wasn't feeling either of them um just their personalities like I just I didn't like gravitate towards but oh my god I I'm obsessed like I'm obsessed with Sam and Corey obsessed with Sam and Corey oh my god like I need more they're still together now so he's obviously gonna be on like this next season with her like I'm just so obsessed I think they're so cute it was really cute their first weekend together when he came to the house because like I guess Craig was there or and they met and they're in

the car like getting picking up alcohol. Like you're watching two people who are like really connecting. And they're having this like easy conversation. And she's just you could like see how he's just like falling in love with her. Because she's just like this bubbly really sweet person. And it was beautiful to watch. I completely agree. I'm obsessed with them.

And I like her Instagram is all like really cute pictures of them. But that thing that Maya said to her like the day she walked into the house was so mean and I thought she was really mature about it at the reunion she like explained how like she didn't think Maya was coming from a bad place but it kind of triggered any time someone has said that to her who was coming from a bad place I thought it was so fucking mean because I'm like that too like I relate to Sam in the way that like we're a lot and we're like loud. And it's not for everyone. But like to be pulled aside like the day you get to a house full of new people just being told to basically shut the fuck up.

It wasn't the first day but it was. It was early. Still rude. It was so rude. Yeah. I guess. But it's like if everyone's talking about it behind her back. What's the right thing to do?

But she didn't say everyone's saying this about you she said you do like factually you talk too much it's just mean like it's okay let's say she does talk too much okay so like it's not like she you know kills people too much like it's just her personality yeah it was it was weird to watch and now there is this weird dynamic and it's interesting that this season like the new girls gravitated towards Lindsay whereas they usually gravitate towards Paige and the bed crew. And I always thought like in past seasons like that's such a plus in Paige and Amanda's column it's like they're always so welcoming and I think it really showed how like kind of toxic Lindsay and Danielle's friendship was like they wouldn't let anyone in they made

no space for anyone else like it was rude and it was really hard to be and I thought Paige articulated that so well how she was like I was here you know as a new girl once and like you guys were horrible to me and that's why she's made a conscious effort always to like be in the bed with Maya and be in the bed with Sierra and like always welcoming the new girls um so I did think it was interesting that the new girls immediately were on the other side of the couch yeah and even throughout the season like when Sam was like I'm so happy about Lindsay's engagement but I think I'll just like be happy over here because I don't want to like upset everyone it was like no one all season like Lindsay didn't have beef really with anyone other than Danielle outwardly but like anytime something negative happened for Lindsay or like there was a fight or a conversation like everyone was like a

little gleeful about it and it's like, like, I can understand, like, they're also human beings. And I can also understand maybe Lindsay is, like, an annoying fucking person. And so when other people are, like, seeing that too, you're, like, yeah, she's annoying. But when you're watching it as a viewer, it just, like, comes off really mean when everybody is treating one person that way. Yep. Especially a person who's, like, obviously shown a lot of growth. Like, that's okay.

I do believe when they were talking about shit that happened in the past like you know the du moi. Like I do believe Lindsay has probably her fair share of bad moments in the last few years. But like to bring it up now when they're so clearly in a different place and have been through so much like it just feels irrelevant. No and it's like if we're moving forward then we cannot keep like bringing up old stuff if we've like said that we're moving on from it like to me that final conversation between Danielle and Lindsay that Lindsay was so terrible at like how is she terrible first of all she didn't say anything she literally didn't say anything that was like everyone's problem Danielle called her a monster Danielle said the friendship was over Danielle was like losing her mind and everyone

was like the way Lindsay treated you in that conversation I'm like Lindsay just like responded like yes or no no and Lindsay was just like fed up like this is a person who's like kind of crazy like you really can't argue with them so much and I felt like she was just like I don't need this friendship anymore so it's like not worth fighting for. So yeah, maybe she came off a little cold. But like it's fucking exhausting to argue with someone who's like so deeply unwell. Deeply unwell. And all season Danielle's like, I would take a bullet for you. It's like you would take a bullet for me, but you couldn't be happy that I'm getting

engaged to the love of my life. Why? Why the bullet? Why the bullet? I don't need a bullet. I just was wanting to be genuinely happy for me. Yeah, which is like really not asking a lot. Or at least fake it. Fake it. I don't need a bullet. I just was wanting to be genuinely happy for me. Yeah, which is, like, really not asking a lot. Or at least fake it.

Fake it. I don't care. Yeah, and also then the girls were trying to say that, like, Lindsay was mad at Danielle for becoming friends with, like, you know, the bed crew. Right. But I don't think it was that. Like, I think it's, like, when you're best friends with someone,

and since they all have to be in a house together, yeah, like, she can go and be friends with other people. But, like, if you start talking badly about me to people who do not like me I cannot be friends with you yeah that's how I feel like that's how I feel too yep like go be friends with them like go talk about all your like fun stuff whatever but if you want to talk about me with my enemies we can't be friends I completely agree and I don't think that that's crazy me neither so I was fully team Lindsay and I just needed to get that off my chest because I was so surprised that I was so alone well I'm so glad Sam and Gabby had my back too yeah I but you know what that conversation about Gabby was interesting because I did feel like when she first got there

like she wasn't really being genuine she was like trying to like have moments and be funny and I understood why like Maya and Sierra were like we felt like we would have had like an instant connection with you and like you're just kind of like surface level like I actually get that but I think after that they like totally wrote her off and she was probably like nervous like it's so it's such a weird thing to like be in a house with all these cameras like she was just like trying a little too hard in the beginning and like then everyone completely wrote her off that by the time she got comfortable like they weren't even open to being her friend yeah that's how I felt as a viewer but like when she finally was just like being herself and like just having like cute real moments I was like oh I really like her and I felt that same way about

Sam like at first I felt like she was trying too hard I didn't understand her and it just took a little time but like I think they're both like really cute sweet girls. Same. All right. So that'll be interesting to see like who goes to the wedding. And like you know I'm happy for Lindsay and Carl honestly. Like weirdly I ship. Weirdly I ship. They should invite everyone.

Yeah. Just because like if they don't everyone will hold it over them for the next 30 years. Definitely. Yeah. But they said that they would do another summer in the house. So I'm curious who will be in the house again. Well, the thing is, like, they obviously need Corey. They need more guys. Oh, my God.

I don't even know that guy's name. Alex? Sure. Like, they need more guys. It's great that Corey's in a relationship. They need more single guys. And I don't know. There's actually, like, a lot of girls. I feel like two of them need more guys. It's great that Corey's in a relationship. They need more single guys. And I don't know if there's actually like a lot of girls. I feel like two of them need to go.

Yeah. Yeah. I think Paige will come back because also like Bravo loves her and Craig. Paige is a fan favorite. Her and Craig are literally perfect for each other. I think they add like an interesting dynamic because they're like a serious couple. But they're like somewhere between Kyle and Amanda and Lindsay and Carl like they're taking it slow but they're serious in the last few episodes they had some interesting conversations about

their relationship that were very surprising to me in like I mean obviously the big question is like when are they gonna move in together and where are they gonna live because they're still doing long distance but um they also just like like each other so much that they don't want to like ruin the relationship by doing something that like neither of them are ready for and weirdly long distance like really works for them they both have like very flexible lives they spend a lot of time together yeah but they have to take the next step if they want to take the next in the next step which is like you know marriage and kids but they have to like they were like we know we want to get married and have kids and raise them in charleston but how do we get to that to that point like because you know next we

need to move in together but like where do we move in Paige does not want to move to Charleston right now and I don't think that she should have to yeah I feel like honestly if I was gonna cut someone it would probably be Maya mostly because like she actually had a lot going on this summer like her boyfriend cheated on her and there was like so much that went down that she refused to put on air like she didn't talk about she made him take his mic off yeah like she she's not open to sharing and that's I totally respect but like you can't really be on a reality show where people are like literally out here bleeding out I mean Lindsay with miscarriage like that no one called her out for that when like literally Carl and Lindsay tried like didn't

talk about a fight the morning after they had a fight the night before on camera and that was you know obfuscating their relationship when Maya literally pulled Oliver into the bathroom told him to take his mic off so they could talk about the fact that he had cheated on her they were pretty much broken up but that he was coming to the party that weekend just like round out the summer so they didn't have to deal with the breakup on camera right no she was like producing herself yeah right and like she got no flack for it but like a person like that is really not necessary on a show where there are so many girls already and the girls are you know they're doing the most yeah and honestly the bed situation this season really was starting to stress me out there was a lot of bed sharing. There was a lot of slob like bedrooms.

Like it was getting really bad towards the end. Like I think I'd rather have like a more trimmed down cast. Yeah. With everyone contributing than like you know four people Willy Wonka in a bed all weekend. Yeah. But I actually think like a lot of people were like this season of Summer House is bad. I actually think it turned out really good. And people were like I don't understand this group of people. I agree with that. But I do think there's actually like a lot of potential were like this season of Summer House is bad I actually think it turned out really good and people were like I don't understand this group of people I agree with that

but I do think there's actually like a lot of potential for where we go from here you know now knowing that we have like Corey and Sam like I do think there is a world is best friends with Craig right no and they need to bring like another cute Charleston boy who's single like they actually there's a lot of potential for this group when the season first started people were like what the fuck is going on and I agreed but I actually think there's you know it could work yeah I think that it could work too and I just was curious what was going on with the bedroom sorry I just you know you know me yeah I can't get over the logistics because in the downstairs master bedroom this season there's two king beds and it felt like nobody wanted to sleep there like there were some some nights where someone would sleep in one of those beds alone I feel like maybe

the AC wasn't working down there maybe also upstairs like everyone was running fans 24 7 I feel like the AC in the house was broken this year I'm just saying well like a lot of the bedrooms were like altered this year like they put up walls they removed walls like honestly that double master was fucking weird yeah no it was really weird it was giving like uh um like are you the one where they all sleep like on beds in the middle of the room together but this was the first season where like Kyle and Amanda didn't just like automatically get the best room in the house and I always like felt like that wasn't fair like yeah you're two people you're a couple but everyone is two people they got the queen bed no they have a king bed from the looks of it. They got the biggest one bed.

The biggest room that has one bed and a bathroom. Right, right, right, right. But I agree because now Lindsay and Carl are engaged. They deserve a nice room too. They have a nice room though. Corey and Sam. Paige and Craig. But Paige doesn't like her privacy.

Yeah, she likes to be with the girlies. Yeah, even there was one time Craig visited where he stayed in a room with her, Maya, and Sierra. And they were, like, literally full-size beds that they pushed together. The four of them slept in a bed pushed together. Oh, I miss that. Yeah, no, that was when things got shocking for me. I was like, summer needs to end. Yeah, no, summer has taken its toll.

It's time to go back to the city. Could you imagine? I can't, like, imagine anything more uncomfortable to me. I was like summer needs to end. Yeah no summer has taken its toll. It's time to go back to the city. Could you imagine? I can't like imagine anything more uncomfortable to me. Yeah but you're just not like that by the way. Yeah no I'm crazy. You don't even like to share a bed with me. Like when we travel for work we get two hotel rooms. It's the craziest thing. I know but I feel like now if we traveled for work we would get one. Maybe we're just closer now. Yeah no it's also like financially more responsible yeah I don't know what it is but it's like on the one hand you would think I would want no by the way we do it when like when like a brand or like a network has paid for our hotel rooms like okay yeah we'll take two but if we're paying for it ourselves we'll share no but you never shared that's not even

true like remember when we went to um when we stayed at the Mondrian, we were just talking about this. Yeah, we got two rooms. And they were, like, both so big. It was so stupid. But we were also, like, coming back from Stagecoach where we just shared a house. And, like, you just need to decompress. At least I do.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't mind. Like, see, I'm more of, like, a page in that sense. Like, I don't mind, like, you know, sleeping with other people. Yeah, but now I do think it would be weird if we got two separate rooms now that I'm thinking about it. But I feel like I'm also just, like, now that, sleeping with other people. Yeah, but now I do think it would be weird if we got two separate rooms now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I agree.

But I feel like I'm also just, like, now that I'm a mom, just used to having, like, chaos around me all the time, whereas, like, I used to, like, just, like, really, like, like... You're like a sanctuary. Yeah. And now it's just, like, that's all gone to hell. 100%. Well, this was our longest show to date. And I think it's time we wrap it up.

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