The Toast - Four Seasons Orlando: Thursday, May 23rd, 2024

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday. Congrats, grads, to making it for the latter half of the week. Such an exciting thrill. Thriller! Thriller! It is an exciting thrill. I didn't even acknowledge in my own personal space today

that it is Thursday. Yeah, it just, this week in a good way, I guess, hasn't been very day dependent it's all felt like a blur but I'm so happy to be here on this Thursday this day of Thursdays with you nevertheless it is still Thursday and you know I spoke too soon here I was all week going on about the weather and greatest city on earth that you're very saying I went to leave my house today you know i have an apartment with a lot of windows not to brag and seriously it was dark like apocalyptic fog rain thunder thunder lightning seriously the weather's gone like we're back to shit

we got two good days everybody acted like it was permanent myself included and it wasn't it's shit again shit town shit weather shit everything got too big for your britches speaking of britches something that's really crazy and just goes to show how what's a bridge pants oh just goes to show how we are so simpatico like we could be doing this show on opposite ends of the globe and on the same day for the first time in the six years we've been doing the show both you and I are wearing je globe and on the same day for the first time in the six years we've been doing the show both you and I are wearing jean shorts on the show which we never do no it's really crazy I'm like looking in the monitor regretting it showing leg is such a seriously

brave thing as two women in the industry we've been showing like it's not about that we've already conquered that fear because we are so brave I don't know if we've conquered it, but we've done it. Yeah. We are looking that fear. We're looking camp right in the eye. Right in the eye. And speaking of camp, no, it's the fact that we're wearing jean shorts. Not biker shorts.

Why is that crazy? Not a skirt. Like that's just so crazy and regular of us. Like we're just two normal regular girls going about our days. Yeah. Girls who just like wear jean shorts specifically on camera but just you know to work or wherever are so carefree and we've never been that carefree so yes I hear you something about it being denim is so casual we're just like two girls like

should we grab a surf or grab a slice of pizza like maybe a beer like yeah I hear what you're saying. Regular degular swirlies today usually I'm wearing like a tailored short or a pleated skirt. But just to go raw dog jeans short, I was trying something new. And we're so simpatico that you had that experience today too. Like it's classic us. Classic Jackson Claude on the same wavelength. In a very low key but also serious way. It's extremely classic.

It's kind of overt today how classic we're being. So you're saying it's high key I like overt okay as the antonym to low key such a crazy day so far told you already about the weather like I made three tiktoks I'm exhausted um but I learned something kind of crazy this morning did you know that people in Canada pronounce the skin condition eczema, eczema? I just thought that was really crazy. That should be crazy, but they're crazy up there, and they say things in such a wild manner that that's par for the course. I'd be more shocked if they said eczema.

Right. We're talking about eczema, and it's crazy. It's insane how Canada is so similar to America. it's like you know an English-speaking North American country like literally our borders touch like I just feel like we have a lot in common more so than we have in common with Mexico our borders touch there too but they speak a different language you have a totally different culture now I know we got the French thing going on in Canada but like please you're you're American and it's crazy how every now and then I'm like reminded that we're literally a different country when I went there and all the exit signs said sortie on them I was like oh okay we actually are quite different but do you not relate more to our

southern neighbors as a La Tostada yourself well actually on the way to work this morning I listened to a bit of Selena and um Gypsy Kings I was really like kind of feeling like the Spanish music and I was just like cracking myself up. Like, because first of all, like I choose to listen, before I discovered that I was like a tostada Latina queen, I loved Gypsy Kings and Selena. Before you discovered your roots? Before I did it in my ancestry, I still loved, and now it makes sense why I had this connection.

I love the Gypsy Kings and I love Selena. But today I was like giggling about like, not me like literally listening to Spanish music. I'm so funny. Embracing the tostada lifestyle. Volare! Whoa! Cantare! Whoa! And then I was listening to that other what's the classic Selena song? Cause I'm dreaming but this is a classic Spanish one no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no oh yeah that one yeah I can't remember how it goes hold on I'll play it a little bit I don't want to get too monetized. Okay, I don't remember, but like it was really good. Selena. Well, I'm glad for you. I was listening to TTPD this morning. I'm finally on the latter half of the album.

And it's not really going well. Oh my God, that's so crazy. The latter half of the album I think is better, and I also was listening to TTPD this morning, and I realized I think the entire time, because I play it every morning on my Sonos, and I just go to like Spotify. Like I don't look.

I think the entire time I've been listening to the clean version, because today I heard a line. I was like, holy shit, she's cursing a lot. And then I realized, yeah, because the song I know best is But Daddy I Love Him. It's on my playlist and I'm listening to him like this sounds so different at the end she goes and although the wine moms are still holding out it's over fuck them and I was like excuse me I've been listening to the clean version and this morning for the first time I think ever that you hear what does she say wine moms it's over I just think it's quiet actually Well that works too

Yeah sometimes I listen to the clean Something on my iPad The clean one comes up when I listen like in the kitchen Which is good for like the larger house And it's always so surprising The lyric changes And they definitely stop you in your tracks And also makes you realize how much she does curse

On the non-clean version Okay so with the bolter I was like oh my god but she'll call him a bore no he'll call her a bore in the whole the version today she's saying whore I was like I'm literally clutching my pearls but he'll call her a whore but you know it was so when she was leaving I was like okay whore a whore but you know it was so when she was leaving I was like okay whore yeah no I um yeah I guess I was just so enmeshed in the first half that I don't know I'm gonna stick with the first half for a while no no you're so wrong you are so wrong there is like the second half I think is even better first of all the bolter is so good like Cassandra uh Cassandra I I would agree as a skip Peter Peter was good I look in people's windows so good I didn't like you're wrong for that one I didn't anyways I was loving the first

half I'm going back I felt like obligated to go to the second half but I'm clearly not ready like I'm gonna stick with you're not ready first album there you're not ready but I also feel like so many major albums have dropped in the last few months and like they kind of come and go so quickly I know like Ari's album was so exciting for a second gone Kacey Musgraves gone Beyonce it's been very all's quiet and TPD I don't feel that way maybe just because I've been listening to it but like I've tried to listen went back to Ari's album because I was realizing I was feeling this way. I'm like, wait, we just got so much new music.

Like why do I feel like I have nothing to listen to? So I went back and I don't know, everything just already felt old to me. Oh man. Yeah. It wasn't like. Not the stank face. Except for like my favorite song, We Can't Be Friends. Yeah, that one's good.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what that is, what that it's about. Or if it's a universal feeling Or just a Jackie feeling Does anyone else feel like These albums kind of like Came and gone And they didn't like

Make that much of an impact That's how I experience All albums that aren't Taylor Swift and Luke Holmes Like I just like Love it and leave it Yeah I should get back to

Cowboy Carter Because I should too There was more there for me to it kind of like inspired me to branch out like listen to other things so i was like oh this sounds like this i'm gonna go listen to that oh my god it got me on my shibuzi rabbit hole obsession you're on your shibuzi shit right now obsession so now i need to go back to the to the source and maybe that's what i'll do in my quest for new music. Love that.

What else is going on? You know? I started a new book last night. Okay. And I started it because I saw that Kim Kardashian had like bought the rights to make the movie show version of it. Had you heard of this book? What was the book? I read it.

What was it? About Calabasas. Oh no. So she did some with Emma Roberts, right? Yes. Yes. And it's called like,

you'll never, where is it? Should be in my like, currently reading. I don't know. Like you'll never work in this town again. Some shit like that. That's what it sounded like you're going to say.

Yeah. I don't even know where to find it. Cause now it's not on my want to read or my read. And it's gone. And it's not in my reading because it still has Garden of Finsy Contini's here. Everything. Oh, no, no, no. Like you'll never can't sit with us. Something like that.

Everything we never knew. No. Okay, because Kim Kardashian and Emma Roberts are starring in an adaptation. And I do also think Kim Kardashian. Of a Julianne Hough book. What is this? May 10th, 2024 from shereads.com. By the way, if you lived here, you'd be famous by now.

If you lived here, you'd be famous by now. Yes, that's it. It's apparently, I didn't even look at what it's about before I started to read it. It's a Calabasas teen drama series. Yeah. Boy, I wonder if before I started to read it. It's a Calabasas teen drama series. Yeah. Boy, I wonder if I'll continue to like it. And it's being produced by Marlene King, who did Pretty Little Liars. Oh, I didn't realize it's for teeny boppers.

I thought it was kind of, I don't know why I thought it was a book of short stories. This story centers around a 16-year-old girl named Via, who transfers from an extremely Catholic school to a Calabasas high school. Here she learns that no one is as they seem and everyone is trying to be someone else. Wait, I'm cracking up. I thought it was a very literary book probably because of Emma Roberts and I thought it was a book of short stories

about like, I don't know, living in Calabasas. And I just want to say I completely misunderstood this headline. It goes like this. Kim Kardashian and Emma Roberts to star in an adaptation. Julianne Hough book release. And more news. A roundup of book news. Yeah, and not Kim Kardashian and Emma Roberts to star in an adaptation. Julianne Hough book release. And more news. A roundup of book news.

Yeah, and not Kim Kardashian and Emma Roberts to star in adaptation Julianne Hough book. Understood, even though that would be better. Agreed. Okay, so yeah, I'm reading that book. I don't know why I'm reading it though, because if I like it, it's going to make me dislike whatever they're putting together.

And if I don't like it, I'm going to be like, why are they making this into a show? I don't think the book nor the movie seriously is for you. And I think you should just stop. Like for real. It's actually, it's for teenagers. But I'm reading it. It doesn't seem super immature.

I thought it was a book of short stories. I'm cracking up. Like short stories about living in Calabasas. One of them was like how, so she goes to Calabasas High School right now. And they discovered their favorite lunch spot the health nut and they have this amazing perfect salad and it's like it's no no but it's before kardashians it's the calabasas no no but that's the place yeah yeah it's a don't

spoil it it's a calabasas like high school salad everyone goes there for lunch like it's our little secret we love it and then they're watching keeping up with the kardashians one day and it's our little secret, we love it. And then they're watching Keeping Up With The Kardashians one day and it's on the show. And then like the whole chain, they moved down the street and they're so big now and they can't get their salad at lunchtime. I don't know, it didn't- It's so stupid. No, but like it was about your favorite things,

you know, it was a greater- Message. Like I feel like we were, it's kind of like where we grew up, where we used to go out to lunch. Yeah. It was nostalgic. Jackie and I recently actually had lunch at like the place we used to have lunch at growing up on Long Island. And so happy we were when we walked in.

We saw that the facility was still standing. Now, obviously, there have been some changes. And we were nervous to see like, you know, nostalgia has a way of just painting everything in rose colored. But let me tell your ass how good that fucking lunch spot was it stood the test of time shout out pantanos deli like seriously the best lunch i've had in months is it a deli you know what when i said it it didn't sound right it's just called pantanos it's not actually jackie i think it's a deli no it's more it's like an italian eater. Like it has a, like.

Yeah, because they had a lot of like chicken parm dishes. Yeah, like a lot of heroes wraps, everything with like an Italian spin. I don't think they have, they do have deli meats like for their larger. It's not a deli. For their larger Italian sub, but it's not centered on deli tings. And I would like, I felt like I ate a lot, but I really just scratched the surface. Like I needed to go back and order order one of those chicken parm sandwiches. Yeah. And so that was nice to know that it was truly good.

Your faves were your fave for a reason. Yeah, you had taste then and you've got it now. I love that. So yeah, that's what I'm reading. I'm going to stick with it. I'm going to pretend like I didn't learn that it was a book for teeny boppers. Okay. I didn't read. I'm watching Hacks I didn't learn that it was a book for teeny boppers okay I didn't read

I'm watching hacks it ended after episode six and like please just tell me that they're like doing that old school thing of dropping episodes every week and that's why and not that that the series was six episodes long I couldn't tell you like what and it didn't end like in any sort of special way except like uh Jean Hackman her character has this like sister We've never met her sister Jean Hackman Oh What's her name I feel like vomiting Jean Smart You put that in my brain

Jean Smart The character She has Oh remind me I need to tell you something About Sophie Turner I shall remind you She has this character

Her sister Who's like her nemesis And we're always talking About her sister Always talking about her sister We finally meet the sister. And you know who the actress is? No.

It's that woman from, um, Succession. It's her character's name. Oh. Who's like fucking around with the younger brother. The older woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jerry.

So wait, the Sophie Turner thing I wanted to tell you, I saw the weirdest thing. She's playing Joan Rivers in like a British, but also CW series she posted on her Instagram it's called Joan okay I'm going to look but I just want to say when you said you had to tell me something about Sophie Turner I thought you meant offline and I was like excited not like let's circle back to this like I spoke to Sophie Turner no like you you found out

some tea that you couldn't share on the show but you wanted to me. I saw her sharing it on her Instagram earlier in the week, and I meant to send it to you as like question mark. When I think of all the people who could play Joan, the only person I think of is me, because like seriously, it has to be like a funny Jewish queen, who Joan would have liked. And there's some funny women, Jewish women, who I just know Joan would have fucking hated.

And I don't know. I don't see Sophie Turner. Like, she's too, like, perfect looking. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. So now I'll let you know that Joan is an upcoming British six-part crime drama television series. And Sophie Turner plays real-life character Joan Hannington, a figure known as the godmother by certain aspects of the British criminal underworld.

Paul Frift serves as producer, and the series is directed by richard laxton so you really need to be careful where you're getting your fake news okay my news was from her instagram what do you mean she's wearing a blonde short wig and it's called joan she's playing a new series and it's not rivers okay oh no and by the way she's standing in a jewelry display looks like by the way seriously you guys go look at sophie turk's most recent instagram she's standing in a jewelry display looks like by the way seriously you guys go look at sophie turner's most recent instagram she's standing in a jewelry display that i swear to god looks like fucking qvc she's got the short blonde joan hair and she's wearing like a joan outfit from the 80s no you totally like i would see this and i wouldn't think now that you're saying it looks

like it could be joan rivers yeah i see that but if I just saw this on a tone, I wouldn't be like, she's playing Joan Rivers. She's in a jewelry store and it just says Joan. Oh my God. Okay, first of all, that's 100% on me. I misunderstood the entire thing, but I can't be the only one. No, but it was also people in the comments. I saw those comments too.

Like you guys didn't talk about Sophie Turner playing Joan. Yeah, that reminded me that I wanted to share with you how weird that was. Yeah, and you have to just be careful, Turtle. And I'm so glad that, by the way, that she's not playing Joan. Because she would have been the complete wrong casting. And I love her. Which is why she wasn't cast as Joan Rivers. And it's important that we make that distinction.

No, crisis averted. Yeah. Okay. So I guess I don't have anything to tell you about Sophie Turner I guess you don't but the show sounds good and I love Sophie Turner on the CW bring so do I W I agree the CW quite literally raised us that

and Pantano's eatery yes and I wonder if that Kim Kardashian show is gonna be on the CW oh do you have it as a story because then I won't talk about it now, but like the Kardashians preview that Gypsy Rose Blanchard is in it? Not that as a story, but we do have a Kardashian story, so we could save it because we could also talk. It has to do with the new season, so we could just talk about the new season.

Okay, okay, because I have like some harsh thoughts. I think save it for that. Okay. Save it for that because also that story, like it's going to need more meat, you know? Okay, yeah, yeah, it's lacking. No, no, it no it's not lacking it's interesting but how much is there to say well let's dive in because we also have dear toasters today so the girlies are in need and you know i don't want to make them wait any longer sounds good to me oh wait but before we do let me remind let me remind everyone there's like 11 tickets left collectively to our live shows this summer

jackie and i are doing four shows at the Beacon Theater, June 27th, June 28th, August 1st, and August 2nd at the Beacon Theater in New York City. There are a few seats left, so I would get those now. They're available, general, on sale, public, anyone can buy. And then we're also doing four shows at the West Hampton Beach Performing Arts Center. I believe one of the shows still has tickets left. Perhaps it's the 17th, but just head over to thetoastpodcast.com slash tour to get your tickets. I imagine by next week, all of the tickets will be gone, hopefully for us. So get them. This is your reminder. Great. Thank you so much. And now without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories

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Like, you know, I feel like we didn't even talk about how when this video came out. Like how much she feel. Yeah, like how horrifying. Like the most, probably like we didn't even talk about how when this video came out like how much she feel yeah like how horrifying like the most probably this probably wasn't even the worst thing she experienced but like the great like a great tragedy and trauma of your life is blasted out um she didn't put this video out like she didn't choose to share this it was shared by someone else we and we don't know that's like the weirdest part like who leaked this um and like why now and right how long did they have it how long did they sit on it the whole thing is so smelly but so now everyone believes you and now you're sort of being um believed and and lifted up but it took like the worst most violent moment in your life maybe for like people to believe it and

you like have to like how many people saw that like no and it's like your consent she's been telling people that this is what happened she's was suing him and still like he was going to parties and big man and she was a grifter and she was you know a gold digger and she like it wasn't all said and done until we had to like see it but why can't you just believe someone when they're telling you that this happened to them no it's disgraceful I can't get over this story that's just one of those videos that will stick with me till the day I die it was so horrible I wish I didn't watch it it's just I the hate I have in my heart for this man knows no bounds and I keep trying to like say things about him on the show like but they're

really like there are no words like yeah like the words that come to mind are low life piece of shit but I still don't even feel like that's really grasping it and oh my god did you read the comments on his video like so many people being like we forgive it's not on you excuse did he kick you in the hallway and throw a vase at you like we don't give a fuck if you forgive him why don't you shut the fuck up but like we don't forgive really oh that too those people i'm going to the comments were just like delusional um 268 000 comments that's so crazy oh my god like read some that you say yeah the first one guys stop late i feel bad even giving voice to this but people should know like you think you just see that video and then oh every but it's really not even like that from a woman guys stop blaming

they was in relationship more than 10 years why she didn't leave him if it was so terrible for her we never know the real truth. Never judge. And then someone else wrote this. People say she stayed. But did you see what that man did to her when she tried to leave? Exactly. No literally. The comments were so crazy stupid.

Hate. I don't forgive. I will never forget. And you literally. This is where I love cancel culture. Let's go. Let's fucking go. Yeah.

Where's the energy? Yeah. Like you're canceled. I'm a big canceler now, okay? Diddy. So I'm glad she's doing okay. She's also married now. So I hope that all is going well for her

and that good things come her way and only good things. Wishing her well. Wishing her well wishing her well truly truly are you ready for our next story which will also be a bit of the kardashian season five is coming to hulu soon so they um the premiere is coming out there's teasers for this season and one thing is that courtney kardashian finally opened up about the super rare fetal surgery that she had during her pregnancy. So Kourtney Kardashian Barker is opening up

about a scary moment in her life during the season five premiere of the Kardashians. Oh, I guess it's out now because today's Thursday and they drop it at like midnight in the most annoying fashion. But in the premiere, she spoke about the emergency fetal surgery she received last summer

ahead of welcoming baby Rocky 13. She describes how she had a scan at home right before her husband travis was leaving for his blink 182 tour she said the doctor who will come to the house to do the scan is a high-risk doctor really detailed and throw up looking for everything and something caught his eye where he wanted me to see a couple of specialists and i had to go in for fetal surgery where they do surgery on the baby which was terrifying she said that she was home the night before the surgery which she admits was stressful at that point um travis was out of the country but he came back she said the timing of it was miraculous that like saved

everything i just feel so grateful that you know how everything played out and for the doctors that really helped make the best decisions that really saved our baby the doctor was like that was a trauma and i want you guys to be able to take a second and know that that was really traumatic. In her confessional, she talks about how she relied on her superpower to get her through the stress of surgery. She said, quote, there's some superpower that I have that in emergency situations, I get really calm.

And then right when we left, I was like, okay, I could take a deep breath, I could cry, I could get it out. Then for the rest of her pregnancy, she was on bed rest because the surgery had created like a small hole in her amniotic sac so that they could operate on the baby. So she like couldn't drive for the rest of her pregnancy and she could only like stand for 20 minutes at a time. I didn't know you could do surgery on a baby that was in the belly. Yeah. I've seen some really interesting things. Like there are sometimes babies will be like diagnosed with a condition like in utero. And there are these experimental surgeries now where they go in, they operate on the baby in the womb, and then they put the baby

back in to like finish cooking in there. And they take it out. I don't know. Well, it's attached to the cord, but they like, I don't know where the baby is while they're operating. But there's like really. She's giving me the willies. No, but it's really like promising medical advances. Like life changing stuff. I totally forgot about this like mystery, like when Courtney was hospitalized, pregnant,

which is so scary. And then like she obviously didn't share what was going on. I totally forgot. So great that we can talk about it now. Like baby born baby's good tg yeah and her doctor had said like it's a super rare thing that happened it wasn't because of her age it wasn't because of anything that she did like it's just something that can happen and they caught it at the exact right time and it's giving sir klaus it is but that wasn't fetal surgery I feel like people might think oh is that what happened that's not what happened to me I didn't know you had surgery on your cervix I had surgery on me not with there was no like

uh in the sack yeah well you know I just read Demon Copperhead you know he was born while still in the sack oh no I didn't know that yeah water is a big theme in the book yes it is the ocean um another thing from the Kardashians that I wanted to talk about. People were shook. Gypsy Rose either made an appearance last night or was making an appearance in the season. You know, she meets Kim or whatever. And I just feel like that's like really lame. Like Gypsy Rose is kind of, and I love, we stan.

She's just kind of become like a millennial thing in culture. Like a meme almost. And so the Kardashians like hopping onto it like a little late. You don't think she's meeting, I haven't seen it yet, but I did see that she's there. You don't think she's meeting Kim as like part of criminal justice reform stuff? No, I don't. I don't know.

That's a good call. But like, no, I don't. I think they're just like. You think they're just like girly swirling? I feel like they do that a lot for storylines. Like when they met Nori's black book. Right, right. No, but I feel like the connection about like criminal justice is there. Yeah, for sure.

I don't know. Well, we'll have to watch. And I also wanted to say, and I kept meaning to bring it up on the show this week, but like it's not really a story. The trailers that have come out, like the season looks really good. I'm excited to watch and I'm giving it a chance. Are you holding space for it as well? I haven't really been watching it like over the last couple of years,

but that's more so I think me distancing and like stopping, enjoying so much reality TV. For me with reality, I was watching everything. And now it's like the cream rose and I have my shows. Yeah. Okay. And some shows didn't survive the Kardashians. I feel like there was

a season in there that I didn't enjoy but I'm definitely all caught up and of course I've got to see my girl Kylie see what's going on with her but there also seem

to be interesting dynamics in this season like Kim and Khloe are fighting bad. Are they? Yeah. The girls are fighting. About what?

And then also I want to see Kourtney and her pregnancy journey Yeah I'm friggin watching And Kendall even teased A little bit of tea Excited? She did?

Yeah she said I have some tea for you guys I'm telling you It's going to be about her horse It's going to be Claudia It's literally going to be nothing But I'll be there

I'm watching I think Summer House No it's going to be like this It's going to be like this I have some tea for you guys I'm starving like it's gonna be something so silly it's gonna be lukewarm tea but that's why we love her and I will be watching TV tonight ever since my book has been ruined and Summer House is on my favorite show SHIO I keep doing that like I really it's I don't like that it's like a thing I've been doing all week like I've been saying like four letter sentences and then turning it into an acronym and I didn't even get

hate I didn't even get hate for it but I'm like self-actualizing I don't think it's like funny or good content and I can do better. Claudia you've been doing it for years. No no no no no I've been doing it for years when it's like funny like when we say funny things but now I'm just taking random meaningless sentences and doing it when I do it with funny things that's funny like you and Ben together do it the most yeah by the way I do blame Ben I do blame Ben he's like should we have a really big dinner and RBD it doesn't bother me yet so keep going no it's annoying me like I think I'm funnier better and more creative than that you know okay I don't think it's unfunny, uncreative. I do. And unbetter yourself. I do. Okay. You don't want to have an RBD though? Oh, I always want to have an RBD. I'm an RBDG,

a really big dinner girly. That is literally so you and Ben should we have an RBD. I know. No, by the way, Ben started this acronym thing like years ago and i remember thinking it was so stupid and annoying and like now i am ben and not gonna lie like it's an amazing way to talk like it's super fun but for my i could see somebody listening to this podcast and being like stop that's rude yeah oh my god did you see sebastian maniscalco's instagram story speaking of things that weren't rude yes speaking of things that weren't rude so yes. Speaking of things that weren't rude. So I wanted to send a little thank you gift to everybody who co-hosted with me

because, you know, it's a lot of work and I appreciate them. And I actually was inspired by a TikTok ad. I didn't know that they're like a, it's a famous bakery,

Levan Bakery. Levan. Levan. No, I don't think so. I think it's Levan. Levan. Actually, I think you're right whatever it's like the best my most famous chocolate chip cookie they have like three locations I didn't realize

they were like nationally shipping worldwide nationwide nationwide is on your side like 666 666 they had a tiktok paid ad like did you know you could send I was like no fucking way so I'd been wanting to send something I'm like okay that's what I'm gonna send so I sent everybody cookies and everybody was just dying over them. But Sebastian was just kind of like taken with my generosity and made an Instagram story about it, saying that he's been on a lot of podcasts, but he's never gotten a gift

and that he was just going to go around his house and distribute the cookies to his family, pour himself a cold glass of milk and enjoy his evening. And seriously, like made my day. I then had to, I watched it right before bed and then I had a dream about Sebastian Maniscalco. Oh, what kind of dream? We were, because I also saw, it went viral on TikTok.

The lead singer of Creed was sitting front row at his concert. And he was like, are you the lead singer of Creed? And he was like, yeah. He's like, oh my God, I fucking love you. And so he was just like in my brain. And I think we were like in Vegas, like at a show or something. It was like, I don't remember. I was also kind of, I was also in an episode of Hacks in my dream

because I'd watched Hacks before bed. got it yeah okay well new season of Kardashians enjoy swirly swirly girlies next up JLo and Simu Liu shut down a reporter at Netflix's Atlas junket over Ben Affleck divorce question so-Lo and Simu Liu are in a new movie together on Netflix called Atlas. They were doing a press junket in Mexico City. And one of the reporters started asking about her marriage, you know, just in a really uncouth sort of way. And he literally didn't even was not able to finish his sentence. I think he was nervous, first of all.

Second of all, I don't think he should be nervous. That's a crazy English wasn't his first language. And it was crazy thing to ask so he was like do you have anything to say about the rumor and everybody was like shut the fuck up Simu was like okay we're not doing that thank you so much we really appreciate it come on don't come in here with that energy and she if you watch her like she's very comical and collected and then she eventually says you know better than that so I feel like that's her way for me of shutting down the rumors oh you think that means they're still together no do you think she means you know better than that like you know better than to believe tabloid trash or you know better than to ask me that fucking question like in a professional setting yeah that's what

she meant not you know better than to believe rumors j-lo and Ben Affleck are not together and seriously it's crazy. Is she wearing her ring? I feel like she's there she's still wearing her ring too. I feel like she's not I feel like she's still fighting for this marriage like in their personal life. She's a fighter. Yeah. And I respect that and I hope they work it out. And who do you feel like is JLo's like great like love? Which of J-Lo's partners, which of the seven husbands of Jennifer Lopez, do you feel like was the one? Because it was obviously Marc Anthony. No.

Yes. No. Big time no. What do you think? Casper Smart? No. Ben Affleck. No.

Ben Affleck. I don't think so. Ben Affleck. Or a yet to be determined person person but no one in her past I think Marc Anthony was the one for her like they were maybe that's just like the tostada in me like my two Latin queens and kings being together um but they just made sense to me like as a family unit granted like she I thought it was definitely a mismatch in terms of looks like not to be rude um right and so that's and so you would have them be together again but once they got together and like they were a family

like that's the father of her children like i don't know i saw it you know who i literally didn't even consider until right this second wait who did she date that i forgot about a rod oh by the way sorry a rod was the man of her life. Like that was it. He should have been, but he couldn't be the man that she needed him to be. He couldn't man up. 1,000%. And actually, wow, it's so funny when I think about like the, because we've been talking a lot about J-Lo's career recently, from like at a glance, highs, lows.

And I forget a real, real high for her was her getting together with A-Rod. Made a lot of sense. I think, again, people loved that she was with another Latin king. They were so on the same level financially, looks, career, like everything. And that was also a good time for J-Lo professionally. That was hustlers. She was like finally getting her respect. That was, I think, Super Bowl, was it?

Yeah. Or maybe it was like coming to an end at the Super Bowl. It was just a really good time in her life. And I agree. He should have done better because that was, that should have been it. Yeah. I forgot about him. I forgot about him too.

That, which is so crazy. Yeah. Okay. Well, are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story. That's more of a question for you. I feel ready. I do. Okay. story that's more of a question for you i feel ready i do okay bethany frankel is slamming the elitist and exclusionary chanel after she's denied store entry so bethany frankel ranted against

ultra luxurious chanel after the store allegedly denied her entry into one of its retail locations in chicago because she did not have an appointment the railhouses of new york city oh my god that literally happened to me last week like that's not a crime explain well she didn't say it's a crime but she slammed them she explained in a video posted to her instagram on wednesday that she showed up on a whim and was immediately stopped at the door by a security guard she said i'm like no i don't have an appointment i have a credit card i have a bag of garrett's popcorn a basic bitch purse am i not allowed to come in at 354 on a tuesday evidently not she said, when me, Shannon, and Taylor like all went drinking and shopping, we literally walked into Chanel. There was like a line. I was like, oh my god,

they have this new thing. We're like, you have to have an appointment. So I was like, let's just like, I was literally so drunk. And I was like, let's just like pretend like we have an appointment. So I was like, hi. No, Shannon did it. I made Shannon do it. She was like, hi, we have an appointment. They were like, with who? And we made up a name. We were like, Michael. And they were like, what time? And the store was closing. So it was like was like 5 45 we're like 5 30 we're a little late and they were like we don't have a Michael here we don't take appointments past 4 30 get the fuck out of here like they kicked us out too yeah and you guys were dressed nice except like certainly Shannon was so excuse me well that's to Shannon effect you stay I'm just citing things that you said. I too was dressed nice.

I was wearing a Ronnie Cobo bodysuit. So just to say to Bethany, like it wasn't about how you were dressed. You have to have an appointment. And that's not Chanel's fault. Like that's crime's fault. It's true. They don't want people in the store now because people were like running and stealing. And also I think it's like a COVID thing.

It must have done well for sales that people required a appointment. But also like going into a store, it's definitely annoying people required a appointment but also like going into a store it's definitely annoying but there's just benefits like going into a store and not being able to find a sales associate to help you like that's annoying it must have worked for them in some way or the other and I don't know definitely works in the sense that people aren't coming in and stealing and that's definitely yeah but I mean your bottom line also converting sales like for sure if you have an appointment like you feel a little bit more pressure to buy something I really can't with Bethany like Bethany is constantly searching for victimhood and relatability on her social media because she's had a lot of success

being like the relatable beauty guru being like you don't need this I mean I can afford it so I'll try it but like you poor person you don't need it like it's that's her whole shtick and so like this is her way of being relatable while shopping at Chanel. Like I'm wearing flip flops. Yeah, no, she said like the behavior was elitist and exclusionary because she was wearing a sweaty t-shirt and not dolled up or looking wealthy. But like you just said,

you can be wearing dressed to the nines and you still can't go in if you don't have an appointment. And that's literally like not the fault of these retailers that this is the environment and the climate that they have to work with and rules that they have to put in place.

It also has nothing to do with you or what you wore or what you were carrying like there are just rules like follow the rules you need an appointment to shop did I start crying when I if you want to be what I'm saying is if you want to be mad like you can be mad you should be able to walk into a store and go shopping like it's a free fucking country and you've been able to do that probably for the most of her life 98 of her life and things have changed now because the climate is so bad and so unsafe but that's not chanel's fault so like take your eye or somewhere else i just my ire is with like bethany's content like it's so victimy i can't i don't see her stuff girls shopping at chanel i see it all the time yeah and like i really can't

it's it's just genuinely not for me. I think I'm a little too like media literate. Like I just I see through it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

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see why no other sponsors couldn't have sponsored the fifth story. Let's hear it. Because the fifth story is about a developing story that's been going viral this week that's become one of my favorites. Okay. Claudia we're going to the four seasons Orlando. Yes we are. So the family of TikTok's four seasons Orlando baby reveals the story behind the one-year-old's viral moment. Oh my God, I cackled. I love this story so much.

The family spoke to People Magazine, of course, because that's where they took their talents as they should, and talked about like sort of the backstory behind this video and how and why baby Kate was so excited to go to the Four Seasons Orlando. Right. And am I wrong, but was that like an extremely advanced way of speaking for a baby that size? You're not wrong it definitely is and the mom addresses this in the interview that she gave so the baby is about one and they are not like you know holding conversations or anything but she said like this is one of the things that her

her baby is definitely like very cognitively aware but this is one of the things that she says me that's like one of her words. Got it. she's like competing with her big sister she wanted to shoot her hand up first but no these are very advanced developments for a baby it's literally giving Elle Woods me no also people are saying it's giving boss baby yes it is so the viral tiktok video featuring the shockingly savvy tot has garnered over 40 million views. Despite many stitches and edits of the video, it should be noted that this is completely real. The baby is a baby girl, by the way, and her family spoke to People magazine. So apparently the baby's aunt, it's always the auntie, shared the TikTok video of her niece without even telling the family it was just supposed to be

for the family group chat because the family was going like on a trip to the four seasons orlando right and they wanted more family members to come so like they took a phone video for the family being like who wants to go to four seasons orlando may so she sent it to the family group chat the auntie put it on tiktok and they didn't even know about it until like people started texting them being like right you're going viral so she talks about the environment that fostered this video she said yeah my husband's shirt is unbuttoned kate was in her diaper this was before bath time there was really no recording this multiple times and that's you know why they're in the state that they are they said after dying laughing from watching the clip, we decided, the auntie decided to post it on TikTok

to her 50 followers. Oh my God. So, so funny. People are comparing it. Also, I saw somebody post on Twitter and it's so true. Like there was a time where this baby would have been on Ellen. 1,000%.

And that's why we're watching it on People Magazine, but it should be on Ellen. Yeah, so people were also left wondering is actually, like they are wondering if this is a fully conscious genius baby or is me perhaps just a favorite word from her. So the mom said, it's kind of in the middle. She won't say me to everything.

It legitimately has to be something she recognizes and wants to do. She's been to the four seasons before. She does recognize certain things. Wow. And she does say me. And I don't know, like the video is just kind of perfect for the viral moment because like four seasons orlando it's just like who wants to go to four seasons rome me i just wasn't expecting four seasons orlando no and these not that there's anything wrong with orlando no and people have now like four seasons orlando is

obviously going viral. A destination. People are sharing pics of it. It looks gorgeous. It's gorgeous. And this family better have a lifetime supply of Four Seasons Orlando. What they have done for Four Seasons Orlando brand equity is seriously, like a billion dollars could never. 40 million organic impressions.

Probably more than that, given how many places it's been reposted. I would say a hundred million there's no amount of money in the world that could foster this type of excitement for a hotel no it's insane I'm so happy it was the cutest purest I saw it like on its way to being viral like it just came across my TikTok as a video with a couple of million oh my god I showed it to Ben I was like how crazy is this and then we just like moved on with our lives and then I started seeing it everywhere and I'm upset me it's so funny it's so pure I love this story I love this story and we always are knocking the internet because 99.9% of the time it's toxic waste but this is the 0.1% of why we stay right this is why we're here. Plus the toast.

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Jax and Claire, I'm in desperate need of help from the two of you. My fiance and I are getting married in June and he's a total p-jom. Last night, things were getting steamy on the couch, and I mentioned that we should go upstairs.

I said something along the lines of, carry me up there, but his response shook me. He said, I don't think I can. He's recently been going through some health issues that has kept him from the gym for the last three months. So he meant it as if he felt he isn't strong enough and not a slight towards me,

but I couldn't help but take it that way and I immediately got defensive and started crying. He kept apologizing, saying he didn't mean it like that. How am I supposed to feel though? Am I being dramatic, feeling so sensitive about his comment or do I have a right to feel angry? Of course, tomorrow's the day I'm going in for my final dress fitting,

but I have such low confidence now and I'm almost considering canceling. Am I being a baby or do I have a right to feel this way? Hold space, two things can be true at the same time. You're being a baby. You're not being a baby. No, I'm almost considering canceling. Am I being a baby or do I have a right to feel this way? Hold space. Two things can be true at the same time. You're not being a baby. No, I'm sorry. You're not being a baby. You're being illogical. When I was reading this, I was like, oh my God, we have to kill this man. Like seriously. But there's literally a reason. It's not like he said, you're fat. I can't like, he's literally like, you know, he's going through the health issue. He knows that he hasn't been able to work out in three months. Like there's a reason why he can't carry you up the stairs. That isn't the way you look like you're he's going through the health issue he knows that he hasn't been able to work out in three months like there's a reason why he can't carry you up the stairs that isn't

the way you look like you're not being a baby you're being illogical yeah yeah at first I was ready to be like I don't know I was sharpening my pitchfork upside down I think I can I think I can yeah um and I can understand like in the moment being bruised by that because it definitely takes the like that just brings you back down to earth real fast I can also understand that like not taking that can just you know take the libido out of any like the sexiness is gone we're not having sex yeah yeah yeah but once you like sit down and think about it it shouldn't hurt your feelings that much and certainly not to the point that you want to cancel your dress fitting and I feel like maybe there are some underlying insecurities like within yourself

that have nothing to do with that that this just kind of set you off yeah but it's not isolated and the only thing that's making you upset so I would think about that and I would also just like the one thing we have in this world is like reality and logic and like this man gave you like a full-blown what this is a hundred I don't think he's lying this is a hundred percent the reason why he couldn't carry you up the stairs it has nothing to do with you so like savor that. Yeah. Like it's not you it's literally him and we know that to be a fact. let the facts trump your feelings here I wonder what my husband would say if I asked him to carry me up the stairs

oh my god Ben would do it and then he would seriously like put me down and he would be pretending like not that he's not huffing and puffing and sweating and like he would literally have like a like a couple drips of sweat on his forehead he would be like and he would pretend like it was totally normal and sweet because he's like so sweet like that yeah I don't know it's also kind of a crazy request I agree but I think it's also just like we're not those girls I think there are girls like that and also it depends like who are you married to like my husband doesn't really like lift weights all the time like he's Jewish like yeah but like, but like, is this like, yeah, people, like your husband carries you up the steps,

like, you know, not when you've just bought the house, but like on a Wednesday. Yeah, it's not like, well, they are engaged. They're obviously like in this like romantic time. Maybe we're too jaded. I don't think so. I think, wait. Really crazy.

Like, do you remember? It's kind of a crazy expectation to them be like upset about do you remember and I hope that brings you peace I hope you like that you're not it's not crazy in your relationship that that didn't happen okay wait do you remember um when Jeff Bezos of course I know what you're gonna say when Jeff Bezos's text messages were leaked they were like really cringy and the toasters did something really funny they like copy and pasted those text messages and sent them to their partners to see how their partners would react.

And like the responses were so funny. Seriously, everybody go home and ask your husband or boyfriend. And this, I'm talking, I think hetero here. Ask your husband or boyfriend to carry you up the stairs and see what he says. Yeah. And if he's like, why? Just be like, because it's sweet. Like, and then see what he says.

Like try and give him a reason why. Because she had established. Because it's romantic. Yeah like because it's sweet like and then see what he says like try and give him a reason why because she had it's romantic yeah like it's sweet and cute i'm gonna ask ben or if you don't have stairs just like to the bedroom because i don't care yeah yeah let us know sign off in the comments what happens um okay this next one is it's tough ready but go to your dress fitting even though probably go to your dress fitting hello faun law long time toaster here and i need some serious advice. My boyfriend of 15 years has started to make me raise my eyebrows. I'm a travel nurse, and I have been for three years.

Because of this, my boyfriend and I share our locations. Twice now, I have noticed that he has turned his location off. When I asked him about it, he has no idea how it turned off, but I feel like we all know it's not that simple just to stop sharing your location with someone. He has mentioned before that he doesn't like the phone, quote, tracking him. So I feel like it's deaf to him turning off the location. For context, we are an amazing match. We like the same things.

We love spending time together. I come home multiple times a month when I'm a traveling nurse. We aren't married because I'm not into the idea of it in general. I have caught him commenting on girls' Instagrams twice, telling them that they are pretty. Both times it was a blot fight, but that's the extent of any inappropriate behavior. It was a what?

A blot bite? A blowout fight. Oh, okay. You said blot bite. And it was a blowout fight, but that is the extent of any inappropriate behavior. Help, should I be suspicious? Yeah.

Yeah, I said this one's tough because I'm gonna have to deliver a hard truth. And I always feel like if you're writing in Tesla,ie you're never the problem and you're not the problem but I think you're you're like living in you're ignoring a lot like if Ben seriously and this is the same you've been together longer than Ben and I have been together and just because Ben and I are married and you guys are not doesn't make it any different like you're in a long-term partnership with this person left a comment on a girl you look pretty are you okay like seriously jail jail lock him up and throw away the key like so not only did that happen twice now this location thing you travel

a lot like I feel like this is like seven huge red flags that you've just kind of been ignoring and like when you're right we're a great match like I feel like you're lying to yourself and you're lying to us like that's what I feel It's definitely fishy and you need to find proof. Like follow him. I don't know. Find a way. Go through his phone. But I feel like when you're at the place of going through someone's phone.

All hope is lost. Not all hope is lost. But like you need to stop and ask yourself like what are you doing? I don't trust my partner. Well you don't because you wrote into us. Right, right, right. You're correcting your suspicions you're not being dramatic I think you're not even being suspicious enough I think you're afraid to

admit that like there could be something seriously wrong yeah no of course like yes anything can be explained away is there a chance at all as well yes no and he's like he's going to the jewelry store to buy you an engagement ring so that's why he's turning off his location yeah there's a chance yeah there's a chance but like let's be real the world doesn't work like that I'm just saying like there's always the chance that it's not bad there's like or maybe he's I don't know going to a party that you're not invited to like something like not that he's cheating on you okay and I I hate to do this and if he's by the way if he's going to parties that you're not invited to like that's also bad maybe he's going to a friend's house who you don't like maybe he's cheating on you. Okay. And I hate to do this. By the way, if he's going to parties that you're not invited to, like, that's also bad. Maybe he's going to a friend's house who you don't like.

Maybe he's going to guys night. Maybe he's going to a poker thing and like doing some illegal gambling. That's bad too. But like, that's not cheating. I, but it's still a breach of trust. Yes. No, there's still an issue there, but like it might not be the big kahuna. So, but how does she find it out?

Cause he's not being honest when she's brought things up. I have a crazy idea. Like air tag in the car. Air tag the car follow him by the way I just want to say but it's when she travels because she's a travel nurse I want to say like I know that we're an amazing podcast but like we have our limitations and this one it like like go listen to Sophia with an f like I feel like she can she knows she could totally help you she knows how to catch him a thousand percent I like the air tag in the car. I would put it in the pocket of the backseat.

But you know, like sometimes Apple alerts you, hey, there's an air tag with you because it's used for nefarious purposes. Yeah. Oh my God, they don't want us to be happy. You know what you could do? Okay, maybe this is better. Like leave your AirPods in his car.

That way you could, like, it's like an accident, but you can track your AirPods. Okay, but they will try to connect to his phone. No, he'll know that your AirPods are in the car that way you could like it's like an accident but you can track your airpods okay but they will try to connect to his phone no he'll know that your airpods are in the car like oh she left her airpods here but she won't think you're tracking you don't think he'll think that like i don't think i don't think he'll put it together i think he'll see it as innocent oh she left her airpods in my car i love that very uh sarah and jerami laura and jerami yeah okay but like there are girls who are really good at this so

you could catch him you can you can sound off in the comments like what's a helpful way and also that if you get caught you really you can't look crazy like it needs to be explained away innocently like oh my god i left my earphones in your car when i borrowed it how weird yeah sound off in the comments girls let's help her out ready for our third and final hey guys long time listener first time. I'll get right to it. My boyfriend of 10 months is going away with his family for Memorial Day weekend and didn't tell me nor invite me. He was talking to some of his-

Your boyfriend of how long? 10 months. Okay. He was talking to some of his friends and they asked about his trip coming up and I literally knew nothing about it. My boyfriend told everyone his family and some of their friends are going to visit his brother who I've met out of state. He didn't acknowledge the trip, talked to me about it afterwards. And for some reason,

it really hurt to find all of this out two weeks before and that I wasn't invited. I want to talk to him, but I don't want to sound like a crazy naggy girlfriend. I would have loved to spend a fun weekend away with him and his family, but it also feels like he did not want me to go. Am I reading too much into this 10 months in?

Am I a stage five clinger? Or am I justified in my annoyance? Is there a conversation to be had or should I just forget it? Any advice is appreciated. I will hang up and listen so it's fine that he doesn't want you to go he's allowed to like 10 have a trip with his family that's your boyfriend he's allowed to go on a trip with his family you guys aren't like a package deal yet and he's a lot like that's fine he's doing memorial day with like his people and you're the girlfriend like maybe it's a no ring

no bring situation who knows what's weird is that he didn't tell you his plans like he's doing Memorial Day with like his people and you're the girlfriend like maybe it's a no ring no bring situation who knows what's weird is that he didn't tell you his plans like he's not communicating well enough like you guys are in a partnership and you're hoping to build on that I'm sure so like you don't just make plans for a holiday weekend don't tell someone and like leave that there to go fuck off I feel like you weren't invited whether it was like him wanting to be with his family his family was like girlfriends. And there's no issue with the fact that you are not invited. I have no issue with that. I have no issue either. Like it is fair.

People are allowed to do things with their family. And I think that that being the consensus, like he got freaked. Like he doesn't sound like a bad person. So I think he literally like didn't know how to tell you that there's this trip you're not invited to. And maybe he thought like just by blurting it out in front of everyone, like that would be his way of telling you. Like I could see like a boy being really dumb and and thinking this was a good way to let you know. Like, oh, yeah, by the way, I'm going out of town.

He doesn't sound like an evil person. He sounds a little immature, and maybe he needs to learn to communicate better. And I would say, by the way, don't make it that you're upset that you're not going on the trip, because really it's fair. It is. Would it be nice for them to invite you? Yes. Is it totally wrong that they didn't no so I'd be like

by the way like I didn't know you were going away for Memorial Day and like that's totally fine but why didn't you tell me because I thought maybe we would do something now I don't have plans I feel like maybe it's a little late for me like can you just explain why you didn't tell me yeah and he'll probably be like I honestly like was scared yeah that's just immaturity and that's how he learns to be a better communicator and partner and yeah it's learning on the job but it's annoying for you especially memorial day weekends in two days now no and it's like so a type of like trip you do with like your boyfriend like it's a summary thing yeah no but you need to make sweet plans now do not sit home alone like you need to be like oh yeah like he doesn't need to and I wouldn't even say like now I'm gonna be

home and I didn't get to make plans because you didn't tell me like I'd I would be cooler than that yeah I agree you need to seriously like find someone's trip to like piggyback off of a boat spare no expense boat to get your ass on shake your titties on a boat like even if you sit back back row on someone else's road trip somewhere like you're going somewhere you're not sitting at home waiting for him. No, you're not. And you're going to have the best fucking time. And he's going to have FOMO watching you.

And then he's going to be like, oh, I want to do things with her. Exactly. She seems like a fun loving gal. Not, oh, she's sitting home alone, like waiting for me to come home. I can't wait for the conversation we're going to have. No, can't wait to get home to this FOMO. You cannot FOMO it. You cannot be like a sad long face like be

bright like oh have fun it's summer i want to go with the girls to the lake like have that conversation about communication and be like you don't have to be scared to tell me you're like you're allowed to be with your family just like let a girl know so i can make plans because like i matter too but thankfully i made last minute plans that are amazing and i'm covered place for you i had said no to like five invitations because I figured we'd be doing something together, but now there were not. I'll just go to one of those.

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