The Toast - From Roast to Toast with Nikki Glaser: Friday, May 10th, 2024

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, everyone. Yeah, you booked me before everyone got on board this week. Before the thing. You were in on it. You got it. So I showed up. Thank you for having me. I'm so glad to see you again.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It was so fun to hang last time. I have loved you always. Really? Always. I don't even know if you remember this, but like our first ever interaction was you sent me a DM when all that stuff with Cubaa gooding jr was going down and you just were like oh my god what stuff was going down please remind me when i was 16 and like by the way it's the craziest thing ever and i'm completely healed so feel free to say whatever
Starting point is 00:00:56 you want yeah when i was 16 i grew up in new york city when i was 16 i used to like go to clubs in high school and stuff and literally one time i'm like sitting up on this thing and somebody sticks their finger up my ass and i turn around and it's Cuba Goody Jr. That was you. That was me. And so this was a million years ago when it was like all in the news and stuff because I was talking about it on my podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Good for you. And you just reached out to me and you sent me such a sweet note. Like out of nowhere. I'm so glad. It was so nice and so unnecessary. Like I didn't know you and honestly it hadn't affected me. Like I was really okay with it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I was like making jokes about it. It was really fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah. And I have loved you since that moment. Aww moment and now everyone like sees what I've been seeing and I'm obsessed that's so nice I like that's my favorite thing in my life is when I'm told a story about myself I don't remember of a kindness where I'm like she sounds so nice I'm like oh it was me okay good because like you never know what you're gonna hear about yourself and you hope you behave in a way that you comes back to you in that way that's so not that god i'm so nice you are holy
Starting point is 00:01:49 shit no i love you why would i just go out of my way no i probably like was just wanting to be friends with you and i obviously had compassion for whatever you were going through at the time i don't remember the details of which i found out about it but i definitely like yeah like well that's we were just talking about like you're. Like you say things that you maybe it maybe takes you a while to get to a place where you can be funny and like open about it. But you eventually do. We were talking offline about the thing I exclusively talk about. Ozempic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And how I've really had like the most amazing experience. And I know you because I actually just watch you on Howard Stern. Yeah. And you spoke a lot about your eating disorder when you were younger. And have you ever really spoken as deep as you did with Howard? I think probably. I'm really open about it. People just don't really ask because it's awkward.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And he was willing to go there. He sensed that I was comfortable with it. So it wasn't like he, it just flew out of me. But yeah, I'm so, I'm not detached from it. I'm actually more connected to it than ever. And I understand it in a way that I can talk about it without feeling like guilty about it or like shame about it anymore. But I think someone, a lot of people who have like experience like you did, like you had a really bad, severe case of anorexia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Feel very triggered by the Ozempic conversation. Oh, yeah, I absolutely was. And that's why I like I I figure out the feeling like what's my initial my initial feeling? It's like, no. Stop doing this. You guys stay fat. Because that's how I, if I'm thin, that's how I have value is that there are fat people that I'm better than. That's literally the sick thought. And that is the shaming that happens with women who work out or are just naturally thin or have genetics that don't lead them to have an eating disorder that could give them make them overweight a thyroid issue loads of issues why someone is
Starting point is 00:03:30 overweight that have nothing to do with the fact that they're lazy or want to be of course and so you're just bitch you're just lucky that you got your genetics and that you like listen if you work out and you're like no i work out for my body you're lucky you got a brain that is likes to work out my brain doesn't do that or whatever it is. You're not better than anyone because you're thin. And I think thin people have that. There is a privilege to being thin. That is without question.
Starting point is 00:03:53 And I think when thin people started seeing a way for everyone who's fat to kind of, not everyone. To join them. But a lot of fat people to suddenly be thin. Oh, how threatening is that? Especially if you pride yourself on, part of your identity is being thin and that's how you value yourself. You don't have to work on other things.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Yeah, oh my God, that's so true. And if you're fat, you gotta work on, especially in the show business, you better be talented, bitch. If you're fat. And so now that girl, that talented girl who was fat, who only got through because she's talented, because show business doesn't like fat people,
Starting point is 00:04:21 now she's gonna be thin? It's over for you, bitches. What do you got, bitch? You, like that i think that's what it is like i i do a joke about it on stage but i'm like you're not upset that these people are stealing medicine from diabetics who need it you're upset that mindy kaling's gonna have a thigh gap a hundred percent you want mindy to stay she's a writer she's talented and we love her but we like her fat stay fat because that's the way i feel better than you even though that's i'm saying this is like a it's a cultural feeling you feel that thin equals good which is a myth i as someone who was like like so fat for so long i used to look
Starting point is 00:04:55 at someone like mindy kaling and i whenever like there was a fat like a notorious not notorious like someone who was always fat and they were famous and then they go and lose the weight it does it feels like a betrayal i used to get like so sad but when someone would leave us and of course please come back because they were just proof that it could be done and now that you're a failure you're not doing what they're doing you don't work hard enough and now being on the other side of it i realize like that's such an immature way of looking at things like what what what the fuck are my feelings relevant in someone's journey to like bettering themselves but you get jealous you want them to don't do that but there is an acceptance and you know thin people can't get mad at fat people who
Starting point is 00:05:28 work out to lose weight now if you're working out and you're starving yourself all day which that's somehow admirable that's really yes exactly we want to see you on tiktok hold your fat and go i want to change and go in the gym and do this with ropes and sweat and look all we want you to look and we want you to and then we're like, you lost the weight, and that's the real way to do it. But just don't keep doing it. Just stay conscious. You can be like a former fat person,
Starting point is 00:05:53 but you'll never, but ozempic is maybe people look very thin, and it's, and why, this is the other angle I don't like, it's like, it's cheating. How is it cheating to get a shot
Starting point is 00:06:04 in wherever you have to take, like shots are not pleasant, and you have to do it, if I don't like. It's cheating. How is it cheating to get a shot wherever you have to take it? Shots are not pleasant. And you have to do it. If you don't do it, I hear it comes back. So it's something you have to do forever. And also, you lose your hair. There's side effects to Ozempic that aren't easy. It doesn't sound like a cheat to me.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I hate when people say it's a cheat. Because it definitely helps. But I don't think we would say someone taking you know, taking antidepressants is cheating depression. Like it's medicine. Obesity is a disease and Ozempic is a medicine. And when people refuse to see it from that angle, it bothers me so much. Like I get so mad.
Starting point is 00:06:33 You're so right. It's like people think they're thin because they are. It's a virtue to be thin and that you can't buy virtue. You have to work for virtue. And it's like, it's not that. It's genetics and it's luck. Well, for sure. But but you know that also makes me think because one of the questions I'd wanted to ask you about the roast which we're obviously going to get into is you know it was amazing you were incredible you're such a star and I wonder so much because I'm like a sensitive
Starting point is 00:06:58 person I love to make jokes I'm the type of person like I can dish it but I really can't I can't take it oh no and your god no there was a joke made about your eating disorder. Oh, yeah. I didn't care. You didn't. I was like, thanks. Like, I still am part of the fucking, it's still in me to, like, value thin when people are worried about me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 It's like, when I know that I'm doing okay, when people are worried about me and I'm not doing well, embarrassing. When they're worried about me and I'm eating normally and have a good relationship with food, I'm like, okay, look like I have, okay. And I still value being thin. I'm not gonna lie. I feel better about myself when I am on the thinner side of things. And so those jokes, it's so funny because at first I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:39 oh, they think I'm skinny. No, they're just making these jokes because I've talked about my eating disorder so much. They're not just assuming. They're not making, that's the story and then i also was like they were making jokes about bulimia which is what i've dabbled in but not is not my like not your thing i do overeating and like exercise bulimia and then i do anorexia but i've not really bulimic i did for a minute but they were making jokes about that and i go well maybe
Starting point is 00:08:01 they're saying that i like fluctuate too much like that that they then I start going like maybe it's a maybe it is a fat joke like I don't that's how much I don't perceive myself as like I literally could think and I've never been a person who could call themselves fat but I have was questioning I was questioning if I was old they made a joke that I should be dating Bill Belichick who's in his approaching 80 they were like your date you know the women you're dating are too young. You should date someone your own age, like Nikki Glaser. Okay, that's absurd. I have to say, you look so insane. You look sick.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And you have a new special coming out. And I've been seeing clips all over. You're wearing this tiny dress. Tiniest dress. And even when you and I did that Cynthia Rowley event together, you were wearing these sky-high heels. Yeah. You, I go on stage always in pajamas and shorts. I mean, and sneakers, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I am, comfort is so important. That's such a cool look. You crush it, but then you're also wearing the most painful looking outfit. Yeah, I really like dressing up for things. I like feeling like a pop star. I think that's always what I wanted to be, so I kind of like leaning into dressing up
Starting point is 00:09:00 and feeling really girly and really sexy. Even though I don't really like, I being looked at sexually by like people i like but i don't i don't want to be like a sex symbol like i just am trying to look i'm trying to make women go wow she's you know serving cunt or whatever the thing is you're also just like a woman in this industry trying to survive so like do you feel sex sells like i was talking about like my pursuit is being fuckable but i want you to know like being fuck fuckable is what I want to be. But the worst part about being fucked is the worst part about being fuckable. All the other things are great.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh, my God. Every girl is trying to be fuckable. But none of us are doing it. We don't. Men, listen up. Don't be threatened when your girlfriend is trying to be fuckable. She's just trying to get a door held for her and get a better job or to get uh asked on that podcast whatever it is like whatever it is it's it's not about getting penetrated no no it's
Starting point is 00:09:50 about attention everything is about attention yeah i love attention attention and because that might be that's such a vapid thing fame is such a vapid thing to pursue attention and love from strangers no it's not it makes complete sense we are we used to live in tribes and if you were valuable to as many people in the tribe as possible that's a good chance everyone's going to try to keep you alive it's a survival thing to want to be famous and it's and yes it does um not equal real love and we don't need i don't need millions of people to know who i am to survive that's it's a it doesn't make sense that i want it but But the instinct is not vapid, I don't think. Or like a soulless pursuit.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It actually has a lot of soul in it. Like you want to survive. Of course, but it's also at the end of the day a job. And so you wouldn't think it's like very shallow of somebody who works in marketing to want to be successful, climb the corporate ladder, make new introductions, get new promotions. And at the end of the day, like you going on podcasts, you doing a special, you doing all these things are in pursuit of success as well. And fame equals success. Which is also success equals money equals survival. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:50 I want to be able to get in a good bunker when the apocalypse comes. Right. I want my parents to be well taken care of and not be in a nursing home that's state run. Like I work from, if me showing my tits is going to make me more money so that my parents can live better,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I'm going to do it. Yeah. I don't't care did your parents like being reality stars they did they at first they were like my mom uh panicked like i think a couple days before and was like they're hanging cameras this is way more invasive than i thought it was gonna be nick i don't think i can do this i'm pulling out and i go okay that's okay i go we'll um i think it'd be funny we'll just cast someone as my mom like I go we'll address it we'll say that you don't want to be a part of it and we'll just we'll have this actress playing you but it'll be funny and it'll be totally it won't make it look like you're a pussy or whatever like I was like trying to and she was like I'm not having some girl come in and be your dad's wife I'm not doing that and I go well we we need the family aspect of
Starting point is 00:11:43 the show so it's that or you have to be on it. And she was like, I'll do it. And then I talked to my producer, and they go, every time we shoot with a family, whether it's the Kardashians when they started out, the fucking Stallones. Living low hand. Any of them, they always,
Starting point is 00:11:57 this always happens right before taping, is the peripheral family that's not the star who wants to be a camera freak out, and then she said, don't worry, they'll be begging to do a second season. And that resisted and my family my boyfriend were all there they all changed their tune because they were like now we get what it is yeah now we know how what it looks like and i i had had that experience so it was baffling to me that when i told my family i was pitched a reality show without their permission that they were like we don't want to do
Starting point is 00:12:21 that i was like how could anyone not want to be on tv i mean you don't want to do that. I was like, how could anyone not? How could you not want to be on TV? You don't want to be on TV? But you want to be a star? It just did not occur to me. But now I realize a lot of people don't crave that. Right. And so I relate to you on that level in such a deep, profound way. And I would love to get into the mind of someone who's currently having a moment. And of course, the timing for my own podcast couldn't be better.
Starting point is 00:12:43 But you are five days out of this like major major global moment where you were the star and my question for you is first of all while you were doing it did you know like you were killing i didn't you know it's like um i'm really comparing it to a gymnastics beam routine like yeah i've killed it but i still have that dismount i still have I still have to nail the dismount like no point did I get relaxed I was having fun I was like that went well that one hit that was a moment oh shit okay but I still had that last line until the last line that could have just if the last thing you know you leave them on that's what you'll be remembered
Starting point is 00:13:21 for really it has to be in line with the rest of it so I'm not comfortable to the last line I wrote it down that last line obsessed thank you something he sets his mind to do he's gonna do and I bet he can't make me come so fucking funny like I was screaming my husband was like are you okay it was so good and I also wonder like about the lineup like you knew you went on pretty early yeah is that ideal yes it is I requested like put me at first like right after Kevin because I've done three roasts before and you think the first spot is like no no one's warmed up and they don't know but it's like I used to fear it but it's called the Geraldo spot because Greg Geraldo was like is the best roaster in my opinion is
Starting point is 00:13:59 someone who I would aspire to be and is to be even mentioned as like one of the best roasters. I know he's up there. He's he's the one I watch and I go, I want that kind of rapid fire, well-written jokes. But he would always go. That was the spot he would take always the first one. And you oh, you just break it open. You bust it open. The host sets the stage, which Kevin Hart did perfectly. But then Jeff took that spot, which I was so glad because it was even more of like setting the stage and and the audience kind of learning the cadence of the jokes and how the night and what the caliber of joke was happening. Then another football player came in who did a really good job,
Starting point is 00:14:30 but like took it down to a different, like lowered the bar a little bit because he was an athlete, but killed it like A plus plus for what he was capable of, knocked it out of the fucking park. And then, so it was perfect. It was perfect timing.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I would have thought like if thought that that would have been like a bad spot and then watching it after you were so killer. I almost felt, I was getting like fatigued by the end because nobody,
Starting point is 00:14:53 nobody met you where you were. Like there were good people but nobody was as cutthroat as you are except Tony. Tony was right behind you. Tony was amazing. Transcendent.
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Starting point is 00:19:20 Like you slayed, I think, did you do Rob Lowe also? I did Rob Lowe. That was like the first thing I ever did. I was in the audience. You were killer. Thank you. And that one was so like, you know, full of suspense and tension. It was.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And Coulter was there. Yes, it was like a weird vibe. It was like a, and that was pre-recorded. So they cut out like so much crap. That's the thing is like these roasts edit down so beautifully. And so you kind of look at it and you're like everyone kind of kills and this roast you kind of saw what it actually tapes like because i left all the roasts feeling like i did like i had one of the best sets and it was like extraordinary but in the edit everyone kind of raises like the curve of the class yep everybody's best jokes make it
Starting point is 00:20:01 yeah and and the laughter gets pumped up so like you are influenced by that as even if a joke isn't as funny and you know it just it so everyone comes off looking great which is is is something i wanted i wanted an edit i did not want to do this live but i end because i like an edit yeah like i look better in one of course but i just wrote to this of like okay i have to do my own edit like i just have to make this so tight that there's no there's no room for because when you do the other roast you're like let's make this so tight that there's no there's no room for because when you do the other roast you're like let's put this joke in if it bombs they take it out exactly it's like i don't have to worry about it bombs in the room who cares like no one literally no one
Starting point is 00:20:33 would ever notice but this there was no chance of like might this might not work or there was that chance and it was like it was just because the payoff would be so high and you're like i guess i just gotta risk it and see what happens so only your best jokes made the cut like you know there were some there were there were tons of jokes that were i thought were the greatest but couldn't make it because we decided either not to talk about as kids right or um it just that to set up that feeling i have about that person um i have to i have to get the audience to understand my perspective on this person so like there was one joke about and I don't believe it now but it was about Tom Brady's diet and um how he doesn't eat anything his his fridge is as empty as or his
Starting point is 00:21:17 fridge is like Kevin Hart empty inside and it's a funny joke but you have to like think Kevin Hart's kind of soulless like so I was like, we have to build this narrative. We have to get people to where we are, which is like Kevin Hart says yes to everything. He would sell his soul if he had one. Yeah. Like, so there have to be three jokes to get to that joke. So like, even though that's a joke that I really liked, I couldn't use it because that would have taken up another 30 seconds to 40 seconds of jokes to explain it.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And I or I didn't have time to write those jokes because those have to be fucking nines or tens as well is there a level of approval like is there like from Netflix like saying oh you can't say that no no there was like a soft agreement between everyone that we wouldn't do jokes about his kids especially like the kissing incident but not of course I wrote so many fucking jokes about the kissing thing because I don't judge it yeah I had one that was like maybe we can make it out of the after part. You can pretend I'm your son. Like, it was like, that was one.
Starting point is 00:22:09 There was one that was like, you know, you like, do you remember the kissing scene that he had? Oh my God, of course. It's my personal Roman Empire. He's laying down on his back. I'm not kidding you. Like, I watched, that's the most thing I knew about Tom Brady. So when I got booked on the roast, I was like, oh great, I have a perspective on this.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And let me just say, for the record, I think he is an amazing father I made jokes about his him losing his family I I know from watching and studying about him he is such a present great dad especially because he made it clear like my family it matters to me and like the jokes like he didn't say explicitly don't do jokes but we caught the vibe like he was protecting his family he's a good dad and so for us to say that he lost his family like he didn't he lost Giselle like yeah it was just a joke but the kissing thing like my dad kissed me on the lips my whole childhood not in that way but I can see how that is and the kid did not seem victimized by it like it was just a weird scene if you're not a kiss on the lip family like I am even to me it was a little longer than usual.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But that's like there are people that probably go longer than him and they're in Italy or whatever. You know, it was just cultural. It's cultural. And it was it was his culture. I don't know what that is, but in their bubble with Giselle Brazilian, like they're kissing on the lips and he does it with his dad on the field, too. Yes. That's just there's nothing. I literally have no judgment of it.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It did fascinate me, though, when I first saw it. And I think I judged it a lot more back then because I didn't have perspective. And I was a little younger, but I remember being obsessed with it. So there was one joke that was like, you know, you retired and then you came back and then you retired again. Wait, no, you retired and then you went away and then you came back and played for three more years. That's like, let me get the wording right to your time that's like you gave us a kiss good night and then you tried to leave and then you came back and gave us an even longer kiss good night it was something like that that was just like it made me laugh so one of my friends like kind of came up with it and i thought
Starting point is 00:24:00 it was just so funny but that even in that joke that i think is the the way i butchered it because it's been a long time since i cut it but the way that that joke made me laugh in a way that was like oh even if i have permission to talk about the kissing thing i have to make sure someone's brought it up before me because that joke doesn't work if it's just if you aren't familiar if you're not immediately familiar with it so there's a lot of like considering that about where you place jokes and which jokes you choose and also like in the zeitgeist so much has happened with tom brady since i think for a while the kiss was a big thing but then like giselle and then leaving and retiring it's not the most top of mind thing that's a good way of thinking of it you have to really you have to remind them of things constantly
Starting point is 00:24:36 like it's that's the that's the part about joke writing that i like when you are when i'm working with writers on this and they'll suggest a thing and I go like okay this I'm in a more advanced stage of like how to do this we can't tell this joke because what this joke says is that Kevin Hart it has empty inside no one knows like having breaking that and people are still teaching me about those things but there's all those like little tricks and you can make an a plus set by considering all those factors but it's really scientific actually no no the way you're describing it it's like giving mathematician energy yeah it's that's what i like about i've never been really like great at math but i do like looking at um jokes as math problems like okay i see there's a giselle in a jujitsu world okay how do i relate jujitsu to him retiring okay then i think of retirement things and then
Starting point is 00:25:20 like you whatever you do like you you yeah it's all about like lists of things and just connecting things. Like Tetris. Yes. It's similar. You were the only girl up there. Well, Sam J. Oh, correct. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I'm so sorry. Yes. She identifies as a girl. So two out of, what were there, 15 people up there with all the football players behind you? Yeah. I mean, there were so many men on stage. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That is really, really insane. Did you feel, what, how did that make you feel, period? I literally didn't think about it. It didn't occur to me. This is so true. Sam Jay and I shared a green room, or a dressing room, and everyone else had dressing rooms as well, and we're sharing them, but all of their names
Starting point is 00:25:59 are in the rooms. Ours just said female. Oh, that's funny. It literally was a sign that they made that said female and so um i didn't feel it though like i just i just don't think of myself as like a female stand-up like i do i like pride myself on it but i've never been like i'm different than others or like they're somehow um i i do look at male comics sometimes and I feel like that's a club I'm not a part of and that I kind of want to be, but not really.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Like I feel, especially now I feel a lot of acceptance from the male comic club. I have to say there's lots of clubs that are accepting me now in a way that I never have felt after this roast. Like there's a level of just like respect, like from like Chappelle, even though I did meet Chappelle the day before the roast and he said he was a fan so it was like i met him i would have thought chapelle might just be not a bandwagoner but like oh i finally noticed you but chapelle was already on my floor i met him so i was like good on you but i saw him after it as well and he was really nice and um but there's
Starting point is 00:26:58 just like yeah there's um it's a uh yeah there's a new level of something going on that's going to last for like a while it's so interesting to me that and this might like render my question useless if you say like you really don't identify so much because to me you feel so accessible like sitting here in your Taylor Swift shirt you seem very normal and like the way you talk on your specials and your podcasts like about sex I think a lot of people find so relatable. And you would be sort of like a go-to, I hate to say female comic, because comics are comics, but it's really like a male-dominated space. And I think you're at the top of the game
Starting point is 00:27:33 when it comes to women in comedy. So to hear you say that, I find so interesting. Yeah, I don't know why, I just never considered it. And I love being a female comic, I think, and my favorite comedians, most of my favorites are females. So it's like you're number one. Right now it's Rachel Feinstein. She has a new special coming out on Netflix, May 21st.
Starting point is 00:27:51 She's a great friend of mine. I went to dinner with her last night. But I'm like, don't put out a special the same month I am, bitch. She's so amazing. She's truly one of my favorites. But like Ellen was one of my first favorites. Sarah Silverman. Ali Wong, I think, is fucking killing it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Schumer. Taylor Tomlinson. Katherine Blanford is a new one coming up. There's like countless ones. They're coming up too fast. Seriously, I want less women to do comedy because it's threatening to me. I think you told me something that I thought about, that I always remembered that I thought was so funny
Starting point is 00:28:24 about how you were in the bathroom. I might you told me something that I thought about like that I always remember that I thought was so funny about how you were in the bathroom I might be fucking up the story. You were in the bathroom at a comedy club right where like the green room for the performer doesn't have its own bathroom so you go to the bathroom like that everyone's using and you hate doing that because you hear like what people are just saying about the night and the
Starting point is 00:28:39 performers. They're like ranking the show. I liked her but I didn't like him and like you know and you just hear their thoughts because that's what you do in a bathroom after a movie or after yeah yeah and that's sort of just like what it's like on social media yeah and I just plug my ears and I go no no no no no no because I learned the hard way in that bathroom that a girl was I remember them being like the last girl no this girl on stage now and my friend Lisa Traeger was on stage and I was like I'm in here I'm in here I'm in here like I didn't even I was just and they go you could tell they were just both like they're at the sink talking
Starting point is 00:29:06 And I'm in the stall and they're just looking at each other like oh shit It's okay it's okay but we walk among you And I came out and they were like I'm so sorry And I was like it's okay that was not a good set Like I did not try So I can tell myself that That's why it didn't go well So that's sort of feedback like okay that's obviously an extreme
Starting point is 00:29:22 Situation but like on social media it's tenfold People feel like I don't get any of it I don't read a single comment You don't I don't read Literally It's like
Starting point is 00:29:29 Honestly I'm as proud of it As quitting booze Like Are you sober? I smoke weed But I don't drink And I haven't For like 12 years
Starting point is 00:29:37 And The decision behind that is It's just like It runs in my family I see what I was getting blackout drunk And like hangovers I can't work When I'm hungover And work in my family. I see what I was getting blackout drunk and like hangovers. I can't work when I'm over and work is my drug.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah. I was like, I can't do both my drugs. Do you feel like your life has improved so dramatically? I mean, there's no question. Yeah. Like there's no question. Your relationships are more difficult because you have to like make intimacy and be more vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:30:02 So it's harder to get like physically intimate with people or even emotionally intimate but then it then you then when you do find it is actually real it just takes longer like i did want to have sex with someone i i have to like like them a lot because i don't have alcohol to make me like them sooner as like a lie to my body yeah right right so that's that sucks and yeah and like it took me a while to learn how to dance without booze but now i can dance like i don't care i don't need those things to like be myself or feel comfortable yeah or like to feel i get socially anxious sometimes but then i just leave if i don't like booze when you stop drinking i like i don't know if i came up with it or i read it somewhere but like it's so it rings so true. The people you hang out with, people that you used to drink with.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And then you start to go like, oh, this isn't fun. Like you just see it clearly and you realize like you were never having fun. It was just alcohol making you stupid. So you didn't know that you weren't having fun. And do you think like, you know, in the comedy space, it's really easy to slip into like unhealthy drinking habits. Like if you perform all the time and you get paid in booze, like you get drink tickets when you first start out. And it's like and it's a very social thing in the beginning like
Starting point is 00:31:07 you need to make friends and network so drinking is a huge part of it and thank god it was i had so much fun if you still drink and you relate to anything i'm saying keep drinking until you can't like it is fun there's no question i miss that feeling of like that first sip and like just feeling like loose and like music sounds better and you're like girls over here like i will never once in the rest of my life go the girls are here the girls are i'll never like walk up to a table like yeah like ever and that's a fun thing to do so like embrace drinking don't shame yourself for it like you'll quit when you're ready um but yeah i'm not looking at comments quit that shit fucking now.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah. Don't wait on that one. It is reading anything about yourself. And this isn't to most people because most people aren't getting comments. But like any celebrities watching or people that have a social media following, like if you can divorce yourself from that and post freely, what could you do if you didn't care about the feedback? The productivity. I mean, I still care about it even though I don't look at it And worry what people are going to say But to not read any of it Because there's nothing good there
Starting point is 00:32:09 The good isn't good enough Or there's not enough of it And the bad is it can be the smallest amount And it can wreck you So it's like what's there for me Literally nothing but pain But you did just have a major review of your special In the LA Times correct?
Starting point is 00:32:23 I didn't read it Okay I did. It was major. Oh, well, it does say well done Nikki as the headline on the front page of the LA Times like creative arts section. And I've never, I've never have been like, all I want to do is be a good girl. Like, I just want people to be like, we like her and she's likable. And like, she's, we just want the best for her and she's likable and like she's we just want the
Starting point is 00:32:45 best for her and like it feels like it's happening like I think people can get famous and uh culturally significant for myriad reasons but so few of them are this kind of like adoration and love that I'm getting right now that just feels like um the way Dolly people like Dolly Parton or even Taylor Swift gets more back like as much backlash as like I'm not saying as much, but she gets so much love. The most. But there's also, no one's really hating me right now. It's all love. And it could be fleeting and it could be, I'm just embracing it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm just like, this is so crazy because I did not even know I was in line for this roller coaster. This is not something that I thought was possible with my career as a stand-up comedian. But I think it's also rare that like to experience such a high high and be present. Like you seem so self-aware. Like usually I feel like you can look back on things and be like, wow, that was so big. But you are experiencing a high and you are aware of it. And I feel like that must be so fun. Oh, it's so fun to be married.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Like this is, it's kind of crazy to know it's like the best time of your life. Like I could not be more beloved by culturally. Like I crazy to know it's like the best time of your life like i could not be more beloved by culturally like i don't want it to get bigger this is this i wouldn't want anything more than this it's the best it's like the idea of getting married or like having a baby or like having anything else like well i'm looking for a feeling of a lot of attention i got it like i was saying today like there's a tiny part of me that's like oh there might be some part of me that's like i want to be a mom just for the like identity shift and like the attention of like, I'm a mom now.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Like I can see that being like a reason you do it. It's not a vapid reason, not a dumb reason, like an actual reason. But I've tasted this and it's like, I don't think I will ever, this drug is the best thing and it might go away, but I just know this um like i don't i don't i all that that feeling that i might have wanted sooner or later is not gonna be for a while and in that case kids will be out of the picture for me anyway i think i'm gonna miss the kid thing i would be saying the same exact thing if travis was talking about me on his podcast like he was you like are you okay travis kelsey are you okay nikki glazer's i've memorized it nikki glazer's
Starting point is 00:34:43 fucking hilarious he like quoted one of your jokes did a I ever did a roast, we got to have her on it. I'm just like, Netflix, did you hear that? Like, and you can tell he wants to do a roast. If he's saying that, like he's so down. He's so funny. I worked with him on a show that he hosted. And so I met him weeks, like a month ago, I think I did the show. And he's so cool.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Doesn't think he's hot shit very hard working funny good host like just fucking professional and like obviously as a fan i'm just like this is my best friend's boyfriend yeah and he's awesome and i'm so happy for her and like this is the coolest and so the whole time i'm just like he doesn't know it but i'm like it literally felt like you were seeing your like friend's boyfriend kill it and you were like like, it literally felt like you were seeing your friend's boyfriend kill it. And you were like, we wanted to tell her. And I see you with your TTPD earring.
Starting point is 00:35:30 I see you with your Taylor Swift t-shirt. And today is such a great day for you to be on the show because there's so much going on in the Erez universe that I want to talk to you about. Hold on. Okay. I was just in a podcast before I left here. I saw Paris getting posted and I did not see the TTPD. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Let me tell you. Actually, I took screenshots for you. I figured you were so busy. I've been to Aris tour 12 times. I've been to 12 shows in one year. Oh my God. Is that not an exaggeration? It's not an exaggeration.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I saw her 12 times. And I'm seeing her again six times this year. Already have the tickets booked. Probably more because I'm going to do doubles in the cities once I get there i'm going to like find a fucking way and then i'm going to her final show in vancouver like i'm obsessed it's my favorite thing so the ttpd set list okay hold on can i guess because i literally have no idea i this is seven songs shut the fuck up yeah and yeah you got this is so exciting I literally, this might be the second best part of my week. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It is. It is. I'm feeling such elation. Okay. But Daddy, I love him. Of course. Definitely Fortnite. Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Who's Afraid of Little Old Me? Yep. Oh, God. Okay. This is the wild card. I can do it with a broken heart. Yes. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Okay, so I'm four out of seven. Four for four, yeah. I'm going to say, oh God. What is my, what's my second favorite song right now? Oh wait, no. Okay, yeah. Hold on. Take your time.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Hold on, I'm going to get it. I'm not going to say i there's a part of me i just is thinking about i'm just gonna talk through this like i'm on a game show it's thinking tortured poets department and but i just don't feel like that's an era's performance more of a acoustic set number she would do so i'm gonna what has been my what's numbered what's track two that's torture what's track three down bad no what's track three hold on yeah i'm sorry swifties that are like do it from memory bitch i can't no no i can't either it's such a long album it is okay oh my boy only breaks his favorite
Starting point is 00:37:42 toys no do you want me to tell you the remaining three what wait wait hold on i'll get the oh i'll My boy only breaks his favorite toys. No. Do you want me to tell you the remaining three? What? Wait, wait, hold on. I'll get the other ones. They're not like crazy shocking, but they're not like the most obvious, I would say. The smallest man who ever lived? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Interesting. So high school? So high school. Yes. And I'm going to say I want it to be be the bolter no not thank you Amy no down bad
Starting point is 00:38:08 down bad I was gonna say down bad I know that one I'm not like obsessed with I cannot believe my boy only breaks his favorite toys I know
Starting point is 00:38:15 it's not on there and so to make space for this new era she combined Fortnite that's what I heard and she got rid of Archer she got rid of Archer she got rid of
Starting point is 00:38:23 Tis the Damn Season okay smart she got rid of Archer. She got rid of Archer. She got rid of Tis the Damn Season. Okay, smart. She got rid of a bunch of stuff. She also moved stuff around. Speak Now got moved. Yes, I heard. She's wearing new outfits for every era except for Reputation because that's like the one she hasn't re-recorded yet.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Oh my God. She's such a mastermind. So, I mean, and I want to and we're going to get into TTPD and everything, but for those who may not know, something happened to you in regards to Taylorlor swift that like i'm sure is your roman empire of your entire life yeah can you tell the story from the beginning like where you were when the entire miss americana thing happened yeah okay so i was i um i had been a swifty since i heard blank space in my bedroom like i i had been aware of red i went to see her at the red tour. And I met her backstage at Red tour. You did.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And I was, you know, just marveling at her. But I wasn't a Swifty yet. I was a fan. But it hadn't, like, sunk into my bones. Yeah. And then Blank Space just sunk into my bones. Like, that song just. And I made.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Which I really do with, like, the artists that I've been obsessed with. And she's the one that's lasted the longest and will be like my forever favorite. Um, I just made a decision like this is my identity. Like I want to absorb everything this person's ever done. And I shall. And so that was, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:34 uh, whenever 1989 came out and then, um, total Swifty, then reputation just like helped me through a breakup and then lover. I was fucking obsessed with, and then Miss Americana documentary is coming out and i am on the e it's like the trailer's coming out and so i am like watching it 12 o'clock at midnight when that when the trailer drops can't wait and i hear
Starting point is 00:39:57 my own voice in the trailer as like you know i haven't watched it again you know like it's so traumatizing but it's just you know and then I had to go away for a year. It was too much. And then it was like, showed all the cacophony of like. Talking heads. Talking about her and being just catty and shitty. And I said something about her body and I said something about her friend group. Like she's hanging out with all these models.
Starting point is 00:40:16 She's too skinny. It wasn't funny. It was just like a jealous, mean, like thing I would say behind someone's back yeah because i literally thought of it that way you know and the kind of thing i'd say someone behind someone's back when i'm in a really ugly place of my mind yeah which i was at that point i was like dealing with my own eating disorder shit like i was just like and i was feeling so far away from ever looking like that and ever having a grasp on how to look like that again i once had it i could have been in her squad i was thin enough.
Starting point is 00:40:45 And now I'm literally, I can't get that eating disorder back. Even if I try to have a new one that makes me fat, you know, it's just like feeling that. And then I, and I did an interview one day. Someone asked me about it. And that's what I said. I don't even remember the interview is a blip in my life. And then suddenly I hear my voice and I send it to my friends who were awake and they're like, that's not you.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And I'm like, yes, it is. Was it just your voice or was your face? Just my voice in the trailer. Okay. And I was like, yes, it is me. And they were like, you would never say that about her. Like we were like concerned about how much you love her. And I'm like, yes, I would.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And they're like, you love her. And I go, bitch, I'd say this about you too. Right, right, right. I'm not in a good place. It's not a love hate thing. No, it was just like, I'm jealous and I want to be friends friends with her and she doesn't look like she'd be friends with me and i'm just you know whatever just me being an asshole and um and then the doc and then i wrote my agents about it being like can we figure out like how much is this is gonna like where is this
Starting point is 00:41:37 from and what did i say and are they gonna use my face like i can't handle like does she know this is me like is she gonna it just all felt so awful not about like the Swifties are gonna have to come after me it's more like I'm gonna hurt Taylor Swift's feelings if she founds out this I just wanted I know she's gonna see the trailer so I hope I'm just a voice to her instead of like a face with a voice yeah and a person and then the thing came out and my face was in it didn't say my name but my face was in it was just like oh fuck and I literally like couldn't listen to her music anymore because I just felt like...
Starting point is 00:42:07 Like ashamed almost? Yes, exactly. I just felt like I had hurt her and she doesn't like me. I wouldn't like me. I know she's seen this documentary. She wouldn't have seen that clip otherwise, but it's out there. She said it and she definitely watched it.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And it just felt like so bad. And not being able to listen to Taylor Swift because of the shame I felt like hurts my life. Yeah. She's a big part of my life. Like especially walking around New York City with six months into Lover. I'm still it's like a brand new album. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I need Cornelia Street. Yeah. I need Death by a Thousand Guts. I need like I was bopping around town. London Boy. It was like my soundtrack. And then suddenly it was just like literally like tumbleweeds in my ears. I was just having my headphones and I couldn't listen to any.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Like, you know, I don't have other music I listen to really. Especially when I'm really that into Taylor. And so I felt so sad. And I was like getting my hair done. I had a date that night. And I was just like, I asked my agents if I could write a letter to her or something. Just to apologize. And they were like, yeah, yeah, we'll get it to her.
Starting point is 00:43:04 And I'm like, they're not going to do fucking anything. I know that they're scared of her camp. Yeah. And, um, as they shouldn't be because she, but it's hard to get something to her even through the means I had. So I just was like,
Starting point is 00:43:17 I'll just, I had just done this photo shoot and I had a Taylor Swift shirt on it. And I just posted that picture. And I was like, I forget what I even said, but I was just like, pretty much said exactly. Like I was jealous. I was projecting, projecting I forget what I even said but I was just like pretty much said exactly like I was jealous. I was projecting.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I dealt with an eating disorder. I hate that I ever made someone with one feel bad about them. Like I said it all and I said you know I don't know. I forget what I said. I probably said something like if this could get to Taylor I would love her to read it and really was not for. I wasn't getting a lot of hate. I wasn't getting like people abusing me. It wasn't like me
Starting point is 00:43:44 trying to like not get canceled. Like no one would have noticed it was me yeah because you were one of like a million yeah it was a blip on the thing but I just needed her to know so I could like have her back in my life like I missed my friend did you ever have any sort of confirmation that she read it or did you ever hear from her so I was on a date that night and as soon as I sent it I could listen to her music again because I was like I feel free yeah it was a message in a bottle that I sent out and maybe she'll read it maybe she won't but at least my conscience is clean like I I really felt the way I knew I was sorry and I knew that if she did read that she would accept my apology let's see if she does who knows and I went on this date and I was had my phone away all night because I was trying to pretend to be someone
Starting point is 00:44:20 that's not addicted to their phone so this guy would like me more and then finally he goes down to do a set i was at the comedy cellar he's a comedian he went down to go do a set and i was like oh i'll just read my phone i had like the most messages i've had since you know the the tom brady like the same level like 81 and people are like holy shit she wrote back holy shit she wrote back and so she commented underneath it oh my god i just remember reading oh my god like exclamation marks i don't remember i read it once and i never read it again a lot of emojis thank you so i'm thinking it's something like thank you so much this means so much it's an example of how we can change or something like that it was like totally got where i was coming from totally accepted my apology and for someone
Starting point is 00:44:59 who never who does forgive and doesn't forget i hope she does forget yeah you know like we heard yeah like i i i know at this point i have put in my um like i feel like there have been swifties that are like she she badmouthed taylor and she'll never be a true swifty and i'm like you yet you don't know my love i i'm very secure in how I feel about her And I've proven it I've been front row at so many I've spent so much money Not that that's like I would do it a hundred times again
Starting point is 00:45:30 And I am going to I remember when that happened I remember we spoke about it on the show Because it was like a huge story in pop culture And I remember saying And I feel the same way now First of all Such a mature way of responding
Starting point is 00:45:42 To be able to identify your own feelings How you got to a place where you would say that. Cause we all say some of the shit that fucking comes out of my mouth, especially when I think nobody's listening, like is absurd. And if anybody were to ever like hold my feet to the fire, I would be like, um,
Starting point is 00:45:54 no, that literally wasn't me. I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah. And I thought your, your way of addressing it head on. And I felt like your, your letter slash caption was so personal.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Like I could envision you watching the trailer, hearing your own voice and just like completely shutting down. I really, my phone dropped out of my hand when I heard my voice. Like it was that moment of like, but it was on my bed. So it was only a couple of inches. But I literally did like, I remember like kind of like going, oh, I mean, like, you just don't expect. I'm watching it as a fan and I'm hearing my voice be the nemesis. Yeah. The anti-hero or no, she, you know in in her story it was it was it was so ironic but um I think
Starting point is 00:46:30 we're good now I think so too I mean Travis is obsessed with you I mean that everyone's like you know that they both watched it together or they at least sent it to each other and like that he and and he knows who I am like I worked with him for two days on set so he's like how did you work with him like like how did you work with him? How did you not combust? Everyone was like, Nikki, are you going to be okay? And I was like, okay, I'll just, I don't want him, I had Taylor Swift as my faceplate, or in front of my phone at the time.
Starting point is 00:46:55 But I was like, I'm not going to change it. I'm not going to try to adapt to make him feel, if he finds out I'm obsessed with her, it's like, I'm okay with my obsession. I still think I could be friends with her and have her not be like, I'm friends with a lot of people that started out as fans of mine like one of my best friends is like she always is like you know i started out as a fan like when i met you i was shaking and i was like yeah but you like got me and so instantly and you were you
Starting point is 00:47:16 calmed down almost immediately and then i've never felt that sense from her of like a sycophantic thing and i feel like i that's i but i did not tell him i was gonna make a joke about it but i was just like did you wear your ttbd earring i that would have been the best i didn't have him at the time it was before tt or if it would have been post ttbd i would have been like had to quote so high school to him in some kind of ways i did say he like i had a um of like a lavender suit on one day and uh he just goes dig the lavender like he's just nice he's trying to make everyone feel comfortable so he's like giving just compliments to people and just being so charming and nice and like i've worked with a lot of hosts of things on game shows where i'm the
Starting point is 00:47:54 celebrity on this game show and the host is like i'm a bigger celebrity and kind of stays aside and he was like talking to all of us and we are like literal nobodies compared to him like it was pretty fantastic that he was so cool but he goes dig the suit and i and i go oh no i think he just goes dig the suit i go lavender haze oh yeah yeah so i was like did a little nod like that doesn't make that doesn't out me as a huge fan no that's so normal of you so there were little things like that that i was like also taylor like she obviously is like always having you know new friends old friends and if she were to limit it to people who weren't fans of hers like she would have no option so i think it's totally fine i watched gg hadid at her shows and i go she's one of us a thousand
Starting point is 00:48:31 that girl knows every lyric is obsessed with her friend kelly teller yeah exactly oh my god she is us she is us and that's the way my friends are about me like my friends come to my shows and are like so excited to be my friend and their fans like it's like that's what you want in a friend so I don't feel there are times where I feel like I don't want to I don't want her to meet me until she wants to meet me and it's like I want to be friends with her because I'm already on board but I don't want to convince her and I definitely don't want to bother her and I would probably cry in the first meeting not not necessarily now I think now i feel like uh the way
Starting point is 00:49:06 i've envisioned us meeting i think i'll be cool enough but i would eventually cry to tell her how she meant what she means to me and i i just don't want to be that fan even though i love the fans when they come up to me and do this that's like because i have one of those fans every you know once a month at my show they're not even once a month like probably once every show i do i meet a fan that's like cries and it's so sweet and that's enough i can do have that but every person does that to her i know but like how do you not like i always say i would be so that's why i'm like i'll leave let keep her away from let her come she needs to write music she needs her brain for like relaxation like she works so hard for us like i don't want part of her day
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Starting point is 00:52:31 amazing marketplace to find tons of different really cool gifts so use gift mode on etsy try it out now and let me know what you think because i think you're gonna love it so in your comedy you talk a lot about dating a lot about sex a lot about relationships what are your i mean i know what they are but like give me your elevator pitch like what your thoughts on Travis and Taylor are like I love them so much and I'm just like you know it's it's really hard to be that successful of a woman and find a man who can handle it even though it seems like such a glowy thing that every man wants believe me it ain't men like a girl that is a trophy but isn't like out earning them or isn't out shining shining or like just more successful i mean being
Starting point is 00:53:13 successful is a masculine trait that men pride themselves on more than women do just by the nature of how we're made and so i think it's although guys want to be close to it because it's gonna elevate them or because she is glow and she is beautiful and she is talented and all these things I think that he's just the first guy and I'm not the first to say this that is secure enough and in what he does to be totally on board with what she does and support her and it's he's so different than the other guys and I think that a lot of times who knows but it's my inkling I shouldn't even say this because it's speculating about her life so this is just my thought that and I'm probably projecting
Starting point is 00:53:50 but I think that sometimes you will say something about your relationship that really the other person's choosing where you go I want to keep this private we want to keep it private and it's really not your I've done that before and I'm not saying that's what she did at all but I think that having a relationship that is so showy and so is so in your face and pda and stuff like that is really like that's what you want that's what i want i know that i'm proud of you and i like i like seeing pictures of myself canoodling with a guy like my dream is for paparazzi to see me like on a street corner waiting for an uber and like the guy has his hands like in my back pockets yep and we're just like this like in a moment like we're not posing it's not spency spencer heidi
Starting point is 00:54:29 yeah yeah we truly don't know and we're so we're looking so in love and like we don't even know i don't know we're coming out of sushi park holding hands laughing like i saw bill hater and ally long the other day like holding hands laughing about something and i'm like i know ally so i was like i know she's not posing she do not write this shot that's like they're so in love like i love that shit and that's what jackie and i say like thank god i'm not that famous because literally if they if paparazzi ever followed me and my husband around i have such a fucking mug on my face i'm so nasty i'm always on my phone we're always looking mad we always look like ms we love each other so much we spend so much time together like we're not always walking around the city holding hands
Starting point is 00:55:04 smiling and kissing like we have places to be no it's hard to keep up and that's like even i was walking in the kimmel the other day and there's always paparazzi walking in i saw tmz gotcha oh yeah they did a good question for you and i thought your response was so you're so quick like you're so thanks she was like you know do you feel bad about anything you said about giselle and you were like no giselle should feel bad for making me feel bad about myself my whole life. Like, it was such a good. I didn't mean it.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Obviously, it was hilarious. But I do. Of all the people I looked at growing up and thought, you're not good enough. Giselle tops them. Like, I'm not good enough compared to her. Aniston, Giselle and Britney Spears. They owe me, man. Yeah, they like I they didn't know it, but they were bullying me my entire high school career.
Starting point is 00:55:48 But, so, yeah, that was a, just a funny response. But, yeah, walking into Kimmel the other day, there's always paparazzi there. And thank God my stylist reminded me. Because they were like, when you're walking in, don't have bags with you. Someone else, carry your bags. And, you know, know that you're being, because they're far away. But then the shots turn out great. Usually I'm walking in on like frumpy like of course a thousand shopping bags and yes i look and i'm wearing like a hoodie over my cute dress but this time i'm like
Starting point is 00:56:14 back arch like all my friends are like we need to do whatever nikki's doing i need to do pilates i'm like literally i i look at my spine after i sit down after the roast and there's like clips of it that is my natural spine. It's a bad curvature. I look like an armadillo who's threatened. Like me and those camera shots. I was like, girls, my back hurts from doing what I was doing to look hot in that dress. Like I was aware.
Starting point is 00:56:34 But most of the time I am like, yeah, I would be the same way. I would be horrified by what people would catch. What were your thoughts on TTPD and ultimately like not really being that much about Joe, more so being about Maddie Healy, Kind of like the bait and switch of the century Wasn't surprised And by the way we did get a Joe album Maddie is a response to Joe so if anyone's saying Like we didn't get a Joe album
Starting point is 00:56:52 She was so hurt by the Joe thing And so rattled by it she jumped into something That was totally crazy it was a response To Joe Joe did mean a lot Joe's everything we wanted him to be for her He's not the villain it just didn't work out we really don't know why how did it end what's your take on why it ended you think it's the success yeah totally i think it's a bunch of different shit you know i just
Starting point is 00:57:17 think that two people grow apart after that long yeah and the world covid was a nice time for couples like that to get cozy and feel like this is gonna be it and then the world COVID was a nice time for couples like that to get cozy and feel like this is going to be it. And then the world starts opening up and resentments are built. And I think that that's it's just most things don't last. That's a really fucking that's a very successful relationship. There was no part of me that was like it failed. Like that's really, really long, especially for Taylor Swift. Not because she dates so much or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Just her level of fame. Yeah. To have that long of a relationship is a fucking huge achievement and so i don't really i don't think anyone was like really to blame in that but the maddie thing who wouldn't do that no i was in fact i i was there i'm trying to get clips made because all my podcast listeners are like girl you predicted this because i was like lay off of her with the maddie thing when people were like writing it open a letter i go you are just jealous she is getting laid and she's having fun and she's having you're jealous people are so lame that was such a and that's why i love the song but daddy i love him i feel like it's it's my favorite song of all
Starting point is 00:58:16 time it's a statement on toxic stanhood and like somebody needed to make the song and the fact that she did it you ain't got those bitches to filth. I'm obsessed. Like, and. Santa's and Hera's. Sorry if that's your name, because that sucks. I would hate it if it was Nikki's. I really would. But we've all been. I've been.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I was being a Sarah and Hannah that day. I mouthed off, like, shut the fuck up. Clutching my pearls. Oh, my God. We're worried about her. So my boyfriend, we went to the Chicago show and he made a Taylor Swift shirt that. Because I was like, because I explained to him, like, all the lots of fans are like upset about this guy, Maddie, that she's dating right now.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I love it. She just mouthed, I love you. This song's about you. Like, I was filling him in on everything. And a lot of Swifties, like, think he's bad news. I think he's great. He's just a cool, like, grungy,
Starting point is 00:58:56 kind of a rock star that she admires, who admires her. Like, yes, get it. Is it going to last? Fuck no. It's like a fun fling. Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit?
Starting point is 00:59:04 This isn't meant to last. This is a snack. No, but also, it's like, literally not your life. And that going to last? Fuck no. It's like a fun fling. Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? This isn't meant to last. This is a snack. No, but also it's like literally not your life. And that's my favorite line from Daddy. I love him. I'll tell you something about my good name. It's mine alone to disgrace.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Amazing. I just, the bullets I would take, like seriously, I would lay my life out on the line for her. I love her so much. Same. I feel, I know exactly that feeling that you have
Starting point is 00:59:21 because I remember just saying, she owes us literally nothing nothing she doesn't owe us the kind of album that we think she's gonna drop she doesn't owe us a cohesive album she doesn't owe us an album that sounds different enough by the way church supporters department they all sound the same well last time she made an album that sounded different midnights you said it wasn't cohesive so you can't she can't fucking win it's so true and oh taylor swift sounds like taylor swift oh really she's taylor swift she should sound like fucking taylor swift i'm so sick of it i'm so sick of it and even if
Starting point is 00:59:51 it was an album that i didn't like i still am so happy or that it is it doesn't appeal to me which it did and i love it so deeply and by the way i'm gonna i'm gonna have like a joe like like romance with this this isn't a album that burns bright for me it's like a simmer for a long time as most swifties have understood of like initial listens like i went through and rate all the songs what i think they're gonna rank for me in terms of and then i looked back at my rankings like whoa other ones have emerged it's so interesting the relationship that you i have relationships with her song and her music is so timeless like i feel now i'm at a place in my life where i have fully unpacked evermore but like it took me all this time like now and now it's so funny whenever she releases a new album I end up hyper fixating
Starting point is 01:00:28 on the previous album yeah so I'm spending so much time on Midnights now what are you going through with it I love Midnights I really do and I think when it came out the place I was at in my life I was like reading a lot I was in like a very sort of slow pace and it's like a pop pop pussy popping album yeah and I didn't find there was a lot of places for me to listen to that music in my day to day now i feel like in last year i made a you know a commitment i was like this is my year of yes and so i'm doing more i'm going more and so midnights is so there for me in that way so i'm the same way like i like listening to music when i'm running or walking briskly around town like i like having a bop yeah so i want i want it to fit my mood or if i'm like going through you know taylor swift has music for every phases and um that's interesting yeah
Starting point is 01:01:10 midnights is such a bopping around like active person yes it's an active girls album so good i love it so much i mean you're on your own kid like is one of the greatest songs ever written but but but daddy i love him is i think one of my top top five favorite favorite songs give me your top three ttpd before i let you go my boy only breaks his favorite toys is number one even though but daddy i love him is like all too well levels of good to me where it's just like it just is canon and like my boy only breaks his favorite toys is like more like a cruel summer to me of like it's the greatest pop song of all time like i'm obsessed with oh oh oh like i can't get enough um i but so yeah but daddy i love him um uh sorry uh my boy only brings his favorite toys but daddy i love him i think like down bed i don't i'm not mad at the i really love the bolter i love the bolter i it's so good i feel
Starting point is 01:02:04 like dog too black dog is i like i haven't had a renaissance with i love that song but i haven't I really love the bolter. I love the bolter. It's so good. I feel like... Black Dog too. Black Dog is... I haven't had a renaissance with it. I love that song, but I haven't had that moment with it. I haven't let it in my soul yet. That's how it goes. Right now, I'm having such a moment with Peter.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Oh, Peter is so good. Love of my life. I just had a moment with that. So that was the secret song tonight. Paris, of course, and Love of My Life. Oh, Paris, that's fun. Yeah. That's what we've been
Starting point is 01:02:25 Waiting for She's thought of everything She really has And she's doing A couple nights in Paris Though right Yeah and it's her Smallest venue
Starting point is 01:02:30 Oh my god I'm so excited To go see her again I can't wait for that Bitch to get back to New York So what's like the looks Of the performances So it's all like She's wearing the dress
Starting point is 01:02:38 From Fortnite Oh you're talking about TTPD Yeah sorry for the errors She wears Okay so she wears Like a Kind of how she wore
Starting point is 01:02:43 Whatever award show Grammys How that was like Kind of in the Fortnite music video The TTP wears Like a Kind of how she wore Whatever award show Grammys How that was like Kind of in the Fortnite music video The TTP The Fortnite Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:48 White dress So she's wearing that And the skirt of the dress Has like you know Script on it It's really cool And then she literally Takes the dress off
Starting point is 01:02:56 Like she does this Little skit And literally her dancers Like pull her dress off And she's wearing Like a sexy Like bra and undies She's being sexy
Starting point is 01:03:02 Wait a second I just got chills I feel like Travis Is like very words of affirmation. You're so sexy. You're so sexy. I feel like she's like really feeling herself. She is so sexy. And like, oh my, I've never, like, I think the sexiest she's ever looked.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And there's, I could do like a top 10 list for you. But is her arch back sitting on that phone booth in the Fortnite video? Yes. Like that's like,'m like i i'm taking that to pilates and going how do we make this yep i think a lot of people the hottest thing i've ever seen feel that way about the vigilante shit chair routine i like i i'm excited to see vigilante post travis like like what that's just like different yeah oh i like i i was even saying on my podcast back in i guess june after maddie breakup prior to travis i was like i just have to say i think there's like a sadness going on
Starting point is 01:03:52 with her like it wasn't like her performance did not change at all and i made that very clear she is a fucking pro and you can't but there i i perceive something sad is happening i can do it with a broken and i then I, all my besties, my listeners were like, girl, you predict, I can do it with a broken heart, which I can't,
Starting point is 01:04:09 how crazy is it that she's playing that? It's such a good song. Like, it's the most pussy popping song on the album. And we get to sing it as the crowd was chanting more. Do we do it or not? Of course. Of course we do.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Not her making us feel guilty. No. And the fact that she's playing it Is telling us it's okay It's okay It's okay I love you You have so much going on You have a new special coming out
Starting point is 01:04:30 On HBO literally tomorrow right Yeah When this comes out Yeah tomorrow Tomorrow yeah Saturday So exciting Yeah it's called Someday You'll Die
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm in a very tiny dress You look so good I look so pretty I mean like so much work went into it Like you know I really am happy of the look Like I was like Oh that's a pretty girl before something major like filming a special yeah what are like the five things you have to do wellness wise i started doing pilates like months out because i was just like you know i'm i'm approaching 40 the dresses are gonna start
Starting point is 01:04:56 you know moving up my neck and down my arms like let's just go big for this one like let's try to be as like hot as possible without killing myself like i'm i'm not interested in that anymore and all my friends do pilates i've resisted it for years because i'm just like tired of hearing about like it literally transformed my body like oh my god i can't even imagine not doing it like oh can you not look look at me um but i decided to do it and then um and it was great you know like it is everything people say it is and i'm i've had a really healthy relationship with it but it actually prepared me um not to look hot which it did but like i end up like miming a gangbang at the end of it where i'm like laying on the stool pretending like i'm in a gangbang because i'm talking about how i admire gangbangs
Starting point is 01:05:38 because it's this girl that's multitasking in a way that i like kind of admire she's a woman in business yes and she's like getting it all done she's jerking this guy off and then she's sucking this guy like it's just so much that i and i acted out and which is not a normal thing for me i don't like really do act outs like that in my act but for the special i was like oh let's just go big i'm in a tiny dress this is like weird and i'm i'm even talking about how like i could never do porn but then i end up literally like act like you just ai easily and um but to hold that pose because it ended up being this bit where like you this bit started out me just on the stool being like you're multitasking you jerk this guy and you're just like and it's like was two seconds but then you know i was working with um
Starting point is 01:06:14 comedians on the road and they're like what if you like made it like a really long thing where you like act out the whole thing and it's like a minute or two long and i was like that's a great idea so i wrote all these jokes for like all the dicks i'm sucking like oh it's like you have to get your real id and you gotta you know put your eyelashes on and like all the things you have to do so i'm making for each dick and it ended up me being balanced for like so long and thank god because i would have never been able to do it but it all kind of like worked out that way but it's it's hilarious it's weird i say some really dark shit that like I didn't get permission From people to say
Starting point is 01:06:46 That I look back Because I didn't think To even do it Yeah I say some things That I'm like Oh I wonder how this Is going to be perceived So I look forward to people
Starting point is 01:06:53 Seeing it Because I think it is If you liked what I did At the roast And was kind of like savage While also being like Likeable I think that's what I did
Starting point is 01:07:01 In this as well And you're still on tour So people can come get tickets Right Alive and unwell Yeah and you can watch my special And come see me on tour And you're still on tour so people can come get tickets Right alive and unwell and you can watch my special And come see me on tour and you're not going to see the same Stuff because she's an original girl I'm
Starting point is 01:07:09 Just I can do it with a broken heart And I like churn it out and I can do it Tired like I have a lot I have a new I was working towards being ready to You know put out a new like have a new Hour to tour with yeah I taped this in December so since December I've been working on new material So I'm on tour every city Imaginable Nikki Gl laser.com you work so hard and you do the nikki
Starting point is 01:07:29 laser pod yeah and i do a podcast two days a week that is essentially this yeah i mean yours is much more organized mine's like literally like doesn't have an agenda and it's just those are the best ones uh oh yeah but there it's uh i need to be reined in a little bit but it's just yeah if you liked me on this you will love my podcast Nikki Glaser podcast and yeah thank you so much For having me thank you for doing this even though like you're so Much bigger than us now we appreciate you spending time With the little ones thank you everyone Follow Nikki on all social platforms go
Starting point is 01:07:54 See her live and her special comes out on HBO Tomorrow spend your Saturday nights watching Nikki Glaser's new special thank you so much for being here guys Thanks for a great week in LA I'm going home I cannot wait to go lay in my bed I will see You on Monday Bye

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