The Toast - Gaylor Kaylor: Wednesday, July 24th, 2024
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Good morning, millennials, and welcome.
Welcome to the morning toast.
Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Having my headphones on and hearing my own voice is, yeah, very sultry.
Oh, that's really something.
Something negative.
Ooh, okay.
That was really mean.
That register, that register, I could i could just yeah i think that's
painful okay who else hears that sound uh and immediate first thought the grudge i saw the
movie when i was a kid i seriously was never the same so when i said something negative
i would say the grudge is something negative but i don't think that's what you were referring to
let's be real with one another i wasn't referring to the grudge per se but i was referring to the
register which i think is universally a negative register okay register okay university registrar But I don't think that's what you were referring to. Let's be real with one another. I wasn't referring to the grudge per se, but I was referring to the register,
which I think is universally a negative register.
Okay, register.
Okay, university registrar.
I'm the registrar.
Let's talk about the word registrar and how nobody knew it until they went to college.
And still, we don't know it.
We just know it's the office called the registrar.
And it's so ugly, that word, registrar.
Agreed.
I don't like it.
Yeah, I feel know every day around these
parts not within us but just in the world like there's a referendum on certain words like they're
they're done manhole exactly history his her story as i would say i think it's time for registrar do
your thing do your thing well today's
episode like immediately went on a tangent i wasn't expecting that's what you can expect at
the toast expect the unexpected get ready to get comfortable getting uncomfortable
are you uncomfortable no but that's what we do here we question things we make people uncomfortable
is it a thousand percent We are constantly questioning things.
Never stop asking why.
I feel like we make people very comfortable.
No, I don't think so.
Comfortable being themselves.
No, we have them look inward.
We are constantly finding comfort in the discomfort.
Okay.
A thousand percent.
I've been very comfortable though.
Maybe I need to get uncomfortable.
Maybe you do.
Maybe I will.
Maybe she will.
Actually, I'm pretty uncomfortable.
My tissue's always hurting on this couch.
It's actually so true.
Like in a physical sense,
we are definitely always uncomfortable.
We're always rearranging our legs, our butts.
If you watch on the YouTube,
like you could see that we're not, here I go.
We're not comfortable.
We're also body checking.
Body checking, posture checking,
physical discomfort checking constantly that's
so true like i said get comfortable being uncomfortable but i hope wherever you are
dear listener that you're comfortable and you're having a wonderful wednesday
as you usher yourself into the latter half of the week it's an extremely gloomy wednesday where we
are i'm giving very much you know summer chilly summer showers it's giving you know
that scene and something's got to get up when they come in from the rain she's wearing the cardigan
and her and jack nelson have sex and he has to cut the cardigan off sure you know that scene um
so jackson i had an amazing day yesterday it included a little bit of grand larceny
because we stole wi-fi we stole wi-fi i'm just kind of sick like i said yesterday, sick of this studio, particularly the wifi in this house being like the lowest wifi you could
pay for it. Not to shade the landlord, but like seriously, like loosen the purse strings. I mean,
it's clear that he doesn't run a digital business because if he did, then he would know what it's
like to have shitty wifi, but he doesn't. So I just kind of, we took matters into our own hands.
Jax and I drove to the local library one, cause it's always a great place to, you know, hang,
love the local library. But two, if anyone's going to have, you know, Wi-Fi they're giving out
for free, it's going to be the local library. Then we showed up and it really wasn't up to,
for lack of a better word, speed. And we had to take matters into our own hands yet again.
What did we do? Actually, Jackie was the one who did it. She was just like fucking around.
She unplugged some shit. We brought our own ethernet cord. Yeah, we don't mess around.
And Jax just sort of like broke one of the library computers plugged our shit in unplug the
ethernet from the library desktop i plugged it in to claudia's laptop and then we plugged it back
into the computer yeah but like when we unplugged it from the library computer it like had this like
big blue memo on it message because now it no longer has please contact library staff no narc
no i mean no because we did that I know but I thought for sure like
with that error message you would send like a little notification to the tech department at
the library and somebody would show up being like what's wrong with this computer and then seeing me
like siphoning internet well there's nothing wrong like it doesn't there's no sign that says like
don't unplug the ethernets and use for your own computer I feel like it's an unwritten rule I feel
like they would applaud to industrious women I would think so and what I do like it's an unwritten rule. I feel like they would applaud to industrious women. I would think so.
And what I do like about this library,
which we saw the cons in the sense that they didn't have the greatest Wi-Fi and we had to get the Ethernet,
is that it's more of an old school library.
I was saying to you how it looks like it hadn't been updated
like since the 90s in a positive way.
It's more like slow living library.
I think a lot of libraries today are, they're a little too modern.
They're a little too modern for my liking. I understand. I don't visit a lot of different
ways. I don't visit as many libraries. And this library like reminded me of a library from our
childhood. So all's to say, like, I don't think there was an alert message sent to the IT
department. Like, I don't think that they're on that level in a positive way. That's good. And
we put everything back the way we found it. But if you noticed yesterday's episode was up a little
bit faster, especially on the YouTube.
Yeah, it's because of a little thing we like to call grand larceny.
It's because of the library and it's not grand larceny because our taxpayers pay for the libraries.
And you could say, well, Jackson Club, you're renting.
You're not paying taxes for this library.
And we could say, yes, well, our rent covers our landlord's taxes.
And he's paying the taxes that go to the library.
No, and we actually pay utilities.
So like we do. Yeah. Maintenance like, no, he's using it taxes that go to the library no and we actually pay utilities so like
we do yeah maintenance like no he's using it to pay his tax bill and that's the circle of life
i am a new york state resident so i do pay for but like i pay state taxes yes i does it go to
one big pool or is it county specific i am not even going to try and understand what the hell
they do in that office i just don't believe that that like your New York City taxes are going to pay for like a local
country library.
Well, I think they're paying for the New York Public Library.
Who's to know?
Who's to know?
It's one big pot.
Who knows where?
Who knows?
All that to say, I think we're gonna have to hit up the library again today if the Wi-Fi
keeps acting up.
Twist my arm.
Yeah.
A library is nice.
I feel like every now and then we have like a referendum if
you will on libraries and it's it's nice no and it was busy too you always think the library is
just this like thing nobody goes to yeah let me tell you it was popping and not just like
now through you i realize libraries are great places for kids and we saw a bunch of kids ever
a lot of strollers but it's all you know people of all demographics rolling through for whatever
reason yeah it was nice kind of a melting pot if you will of the community no a library is a great resource i've
you know talked ad nauseum about my appreciation for libraries but also when watching lessons in
chemistry i think elizabeth zott places a lot of emphasis on libraries too they're used like as
reference centers for mad who's trying to find information about her dad but also when elizabeth
is trying to give that woman tips for following her dreams and becoming a doctor she's like start
at the local library like pick up a book no nobody is doing more for the pr of libraries than books
themselves there's always and the movie matilda of course we know she took herself to library every
day but there's always some like you know genius kid from a broken home spending his afternoons at
the library and whatever book you're reading. And you know what?
It's nice.
It is nice.
And I feel like now because of the Internet, people think like you don't need a library.
Oh, I can read a book on my phone.
I can Google anything.
No.
Yeah.
It's not the same.
No, it's not.
And I follow some librarians on TikTok.
And like the job of a librarian is super interesting to me.
Because you would think it's like a job you don't really need a special skill set or education for.
But it's actually complete opposite.
You think you just like tell people where the bathroom is.
You think you just fell out of a coconut tree and became a librarian?
No,
no,
no.
It requires a great breadth of knowledge.
Yeah.
And Dewey decimal,
Dewey decimal,
you know,
who's the number one fan of the Dewey decimal system,
Dana Holtzberg.
Oh,
well,
I guess she's tied for first with Sheldon Cooper,
young Sheldon.
I mean,
she is Sheldon Cooper.
Correct.
Um,
and then I read that book by sally
hepworth the good sister where the good sister was a librarian she took her job extremely seriously
and she really explained like why you know librarians do what they do and why they're such
integral parts of the community um so also to say when people ask like what kind of job would you
want to have if you weren't doing this i never really know what to say I always joke and say I'd be a vet but just for rip I used to say Theo um now I feel like maybe add to
the list job I might want to do librarian yeah I also feel like maybe the break room it's on and
pop in in the break room because whenever I think of jobs I would want I need to know what like the
office culture is like and I feel like that's something I really we miss out on a thousand
percent and one of the very few cons of like what we do is community
culture. Yeah. Is that a zero? Well, that's really summer. Like it's just different. And we don't
have just like co-workers that are gabbing, totally office drama. And that we talk about
the other co-workers with. And I feel that 100 percent. We have a different kind of office
culture and it's wonderful. But we don't have like a break
room per se i think a physical space for like a teacher's lounge if you will a break room i think
that that is where like true memories are made and we don't have that and that's definitely sad
but i think the break room in a library what i was going to say is i think amazing snacks are
always coming into the library i feel like people like you think so i don't know why i feel like
it's a place like don't eat here oh that's actually so true there was a sign by the computers it said no beverages I was eating a
banana so I was fine yeah but I just feel like it's not like they're giving away snacks you can't
like expect like a pastry or anything I don't know why it's like very bare bones there would be like
a box of donuts like every day no then your hands would be sticky and you're touching the materials
I think it's the opposite they're not encouraged like of course don't starve but we're not going to encourage food consumption
so then maybe the life of a librarian isn't life for me perhaps like i think a job where like there
are sweet treats abound just like all the time maybe it's like a teacher i feel like parents
bring in for birthdays yeah where there are like boxes of donuts just regularly being dropped off
in the break room that's a job that i would love to have teacher teacher you could always run over to the cafeteria yeah chat up a lunch lady maybe get a
little something yeah well actually did you see that theovan had um like a three-hour episode he
came out with with the lunch lady he like him and his team like surveyed the nation they wanted to
interview like a classic lunch lady and they found like i don't know where they found this woman her name was melissa she had so much character and he did like a really
in-depth interview about being a lunch lady and what that entails and he they had found someone
with like so much experience and who had worked her way up she's kind of like i think she was
like the overseer of catering at this point for one school for one school she actually just moved
school so she's familiar with the district like in general, but yeah, for one school. It was hilarious. First of all, she was cracking herself
up like, and she had this really sort of like smoker's coffee laugh and she was just howling.
Me and Ben listened to it on a long car ride like a couple of weeks ago. We were cracking up laughing
so hard. And you know what? I actually learned a lot. I want to listen to this. That's so,
that's such a good concept. I know me and Ben
were saying like the idea of not only scouring the nation and finding like a really classic
lunch lady, but then giving them the platform and giving like the, the respect and like,
it's a serious job. Like she's responsible for like hundreds of kids. And there are a lot of
kids from low income households. She was talking about who come in early for breakfast. Like a lot
of these kids, all the meals that they get are from this one particular lady. And he talks about,
you know, do you have favorites? It was it was really it was hysterical but it was also
extremely interesting i need to listen it was amazing and then she also talked about how you
know lunch has changed in the public school system over the years now it's much more health conscious
than it was at the time what are they serving these days well it's always there's always a
pizza day and that's always you know the more things change the more they stay the same pizza day is always like the most popular day but um with hot breakfast
they go like pancakes they go legit she was like saying that's healthy oh no but i mean in terms of
like well-rounded like they have all the categories like fruit protein bread like really food pyramid
energy okay and they used to have just slop got it it was really fascinating i didn't listen to
the whole thing but i would listen to like a full-blown hour and a half of this lady talking she was so funny oh my
god and how she just sort of fell into the lunch lady lifestyle yeah she had said she had gotten
pregnant you know the guy was not a good guy so she just sort of you know pulled herself up by
her bootstraps went to local school looking for work boom lunch lady a queen was born that's an
amazing story yeah it really was wow okay like i
don't want to do this podcast i want to go listen to that one how can we top that you guys better
stay here by the way yeah no not me like promoting the hell out of this podcast like sit down and
listen and then go over to the oven yeah just like me okay if i have to be here so do you
i will keep you here until four yeah the bell doesn't dismiss you i dismiss you also not true
um romeo has joined us in studio today hello my love muffin angel hey ro don't chew on these
cords oh my god claude that's a problem remember like you said when you when someone steps on it
you know we just we gotta monitor this the studio is in flux we only have like four or five more
episodes here we just it's a make it work moment. As it always is in life.
I tell you, we've got a great show because we're back together.
It's hump day, a beautiful day.
We're back together after a night's sleep apart.
And how was that?
How was that night's sleep?
It was better than usual.
What was your sleep score?
Oh, great question.
I think I had a good sleep score.
I slept, I slept good.
I slept long.
I slept hard.
I slept better than I've been sleeping.
89. That's not great. That's's like weird why isn't yours like 99 i guess because i woke up like i didn't get
that much sleep i went to bed at 11 and i woke up at 7 45 okay that's like eight and a half hours
that's a shit ton of sleep no yeah that's pretty solid what'd you get my sleep score is in 80 i've
got the rhythm they said no your sleep score is a 90 my sleep score
was a 90 wow but your readiness is an 80 yeah my sleep score isn't that's pretty good for me
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It's Jackie.
Yeah, for sure.
How could you have?
I mean, we'll find out.
Yeah.
Our first story, Celine Dion is set to perform at the Olympics opening ceremony,
and rumors are swirling that she is going to be paid a lot of money.
So TMZ reported that Celine Dion will perform on Friday at the opening ceremony
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TMZ sources says she will be paid handsomely $2 million.
By the way, that's just for one song.
In addition to her fee,
the Olympics are footing the bill for travel,
and they're told between her jets, her family,
boats, and other expenses,
they're paying a ton of money, a ridiculous amount.
However, Page six reported this morning
that the rumors that she's going to be paid two million dollars are false and that she will
actually not receive a fee for the performance okay to me like the interesting part of the story
is not that like how much she's getting paid it's the fact that Celine Dion is like coming out of
not retirement but she's not performed live in many many years I did see her documentary if you
saw it on prime video you know why she's been dealing with like this crazy neurological disorder
um and to me that's more interesting it's always so funny how like all these um
the countries when they're hosting like they pull out all the stops for their opening ceremonies
it's a way of like it's like a dick measuring contest for everyone and i don't know um like
why they chose celine because she's not french she's Canadian French Canadian but still um so it's not like she's like I think it's still a big dick move in a positive way like we got Celine but
she's not even born here even though like is French Canadian I think French allegiance but
it's also like Canada's part of the Commonwealth so are they British uh yeah they're kind of giving
like untethered energy I'm not 100% sure in the history and I'm not going to pretend to know.
But I think it's like, you know, we got Annie, we got Celine.
You would think that the hosting country would use this as an opportunity to like,
you know, show their most famous person.
Who's the most famous like French person?
Is Andrea Bocelli French or is he Italian?
That would have been a good one.
Most famous French person.
I mean, I have to Google this because most famous french singer they should have
that person who won eurovision voila voila yeah that's a good one
edith piaf rip though okay so that's not what i was thinking like um do any of these i feel like
when it comes like producing big time singers france is
not like i think they do more actors famous french pop singers edith pf again it's just kind of
giving edith you know so we're gonna stay with oh david getta honestly for the vibe of what an
olympic opening ceremony usually is that would kind of be amazing and then he could then bring
out he has so many of like the biggest hits in the world with like bb rexa like all of his girlies see ya yeah or he could just play them
they don't need to bring everyone i have to imagine actually david guetta like will be involved i think
so too but that's really crazy that they don't have that much by the way of like pop artists
right contributions to the the music he's a french dj no and don't get me wrong like
french music is a genre and it's i'm not referring to french music i'm talking about like the biggest
hits like the beyonces the taylor swifts yeah of france right and french music yeah like music in
french oh i like that song it's also very um that's France, right? I feel like it might be Italian.
I think, perhaps.
La Vie en Rose, you know, comes to mind.
Well, I had also, speaking of La Vie en Rose,
like the most recent, the baddest to do it most recently in a positive way.
Yeah.
Lady Gaga.
La Vie en Rose. And I saw rumors that people think she's performing at the Olympics Open Ceremony.
I don't know when Olympic Ceremonies just became like the Super Bowl,
like who's coming out. Because usually it's like about the athletes and i do feel like
it should be about pride and you know patriotism and the athletes themselves and it's nice to have
a national pride you mean yeah yeah and i also don't recall like it's like every country walks
out right well i feel like in the last few years it's been the opening ceremonies haven't been as pussy popping
pussy popping because in the countries like don't go for such no popping of the puss and it's been
like kind of political because it was like china and they were just like trying to like show their
dick like they show like their vibe but this is what we do over here they have other things that
they're trying to show and then it was like sochi russia energy so yeah i guess it depends also on
the geopolitical landscape but one of the most iconic olympics in my lifetime or maybe it was like Sochi, Russia energy. So yeah, I guess it depends also on the geopolitical landscape. But one of the most iconic Olympics in my lifetime,
or maybe it was just the age that I really was able to participate,
was the London Olympics.
The Spice Girls came out.
That was major.
Huge.
What did we do in Salt Lake City?
What did we do in Salt Lake City?
Because that was the last time America hosted, right?
I think so.
Let's see.
Opening ceremony. Like who was the big performer
took place at the rice eccles olympic stadium that's good it was produced by don mitcher the
production team included kenny ortega as the artistic director mark waters as the musical
director so it was obviously amazing.
And it was nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Variety.
Okay.
I,
I'm loving what I'm seeing so far.
Oh my God.
Kenny Ortega is seriously like his,
by the way,
here we go.
Wait,
here's,
we need to add to the list.
Like of people always ask like,
who are your dream guests?
And we have like,
obviously like Taylor Kim.
We have a list.
We need like an actual Kenny Ortega.
I sit down.
I completely agree. Because did you know Kenny ortega sit down i completely agree because did
you know kenny ortega also did like dirty dancing like he's not just like a disney
he needs to be on our list of like people we really need to talk to yeah here's who performed
the opening ceremonies included leanne rhymes singing light the fire within which was the
olympics official olympics song okay 2002 olympics
then michael cayman and brian may did an orchestral piece okay then gold was sung by
shana marie shea by linda etter okay sounds like a flop so far continue yeah john williams composed
a five-minute work for orchestra and chorus called the champions Champions, the Utah Symphony and featured the Mormon Tabernacle
Choir and the Madeline Choir School.
Sounds chilling.
Dimitri Shoskavoch's Symphony No. 5, Igor Stravinsky's The Firebird Suite.
So I do want to say, though, I feel like when the Olympics were in America, the vibes of
the opening ceremony was very much like we're showing off American pride.
It wasn't like pop.
It wasn't supposed to be a spectacle. And i think it's definitely the bar has been raised you know
when it was in rio i know because you know rio carnival like it's such like their culture is so
um colorful and like loud and i think that it really raised the bar for everyone i remember
that one but i think when we hosted i don't't want to clown on America because we can do better than that.
I don't think that was the vibe of,
it was more, you know, pared down.
That's the perfect way of saying it.
I agree with that.
And so the big name was Leanne Rimes.
Who is truly a America sweetheart.
She's not the, but she's one,
maybe at one point in time, yes.
Yeah.
Before Brandi Glanville.
Yeah. Sort of showed us who she was. Yeah. Before Brandi Glanville. Yeah.
Sort of showed us who she was.
Yeah.
Kind of overshadowed.
Yeah.
Also to say,
love this moment for Celine Dion.
I have been looking for like every day when we're like,
you know,
sitting on the couch being like,
what should we watch?
I'm like,
wait,
is it Olympic ceremony?
Like I am so looking forward to this Friday.
I know.
I am so looking forward.
I'm so glad that it's not on the night of Gizno because one
thing about Gizno, every single Gizno that we've had has been on like a major national event.
It's, I actually have been thinking when I, when I was thinking of my week this week, I'm like,
okay, I have Gizno and I have the Olympic ceremonies. Please don't tell me they're on
the same night. Right. But it's classic us for them to be on the same night. Because we are
constantly at the cornerstone of all things popular yeah and all things relevant
a lot of big things that happen because we also were throwing the espies in there however
if not for jizno like we wouldn't care that the espies were on yeah but it's like you can't miss
something you never had yeah type of energy i'm so looking forward to the olympics i'm so looking
forward to the opening ceremonies i was looking forward before i knew celine was performing but
the fact that they got like one of my favorites who also hasn't been heard from vocally in many years,
it's amazing.
One song, what song is it going to be?
Is it going to be in French?
She does sing in a multitude of languages.
Not to be like, you know, xenophobic or whatever.
Please sing in English for me.
Like I just like English.
I could do a little bit of both.
No, like I know it's France.
Like that's so great for you guys.
But please.
She's going to sing French.
You think?
At least a word of it.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe she'll do one of her most popular songs in French.
That would be kind of a play.
Or like she'll do a verse in French.
Yeah.
I don't know any of her non-English songs.
Once again, me being toxically English or whatever.
Maybe she'll even sing the national anthem.
Oh, that would be pretty.
What is the French national anthem?
It's not one I know.
No, it's not one I know either.
I think it goes like this.
That's Italian.
That's what I think it is.
Okay, we'll find out on Friday.
Wait, we didn't record backup audio.
Are we worried?
Oh my God, that's classic us.
Let's just start now. I'll just start now, yeah. We got comfortable. We'll find out on Friday. Wait, we didn't record backup audio. Are we worried? Oh my God, that's classic us.
Let's just start now. I'll just start now, yeah.
We got comfortable.
If we record backup audio,
then our original audio will work.
It's just how karma works.
Okay, thank you.
Speaking of karma, are you ready for our next story?
Is it my boyfriend?
No, it's your girlfriend.
Okay.
It's about tailored, well, I didn't mean it like this,
but, and Karlie Kloss.
Oh my God, she's being toxic. I didn't mean it like that. And also, I didn't mean it like this, but, and Karlie Kloss. Oh my God. She's being toxic.
I didn't mean it like that.
And also,
I don't even think that they used to date.
Girlfriend.
You don't believe in the gay lore lore.
No.
The K,
what did they call it?
Well,
it's gay lore and K lore,
like Taylor,
Taylor gay and Taylor and Karlie.
Okay.
I don't believe in K lore lore,
but Karlie Kloss is making a rare comment about taylor swift after attending the
heiress tour so she did a a big interview with yahoo life wait carly attended the heiress tour
remember in la okay but like a while ago yeah she was in a seat yeah yeah like uh and everyone was
quite yeah she did an interview with yahoo life and she was asked to pick a favorite that's weird
yeah and she was asked to pick a favorite song off's weird. Yeah. And she was asked to pick a favorite song off of Tortured Poets Department album. Also a weird question given everything. And she said. No
either the interviewer like was trying to start stuff or the interview like seriously knows
nothing. Yeah. She said I'd say the whole album. I mean her music is classic. Okay tell me you've
not listened to the album without telling me. And then as for her favorite of all of Taylor's songs
Carly said she's got so many hits I definitely love
Shake It Off. Oh okay well let's keep in mind Carly Kloss is a mother and Shake It Off is like
a big popular song with the kids like yeah she's probably watching you sing right she's probably
like have to listen to that song a thousand times being like oh this girl used to be my friend
um girlfriend they could seriously never make me believe there's not bad blood between these two
I'm sorry no there is because as I was reading this article and they were rattling off all the
things that they used to do together one thing that I had completely forgotten about slash maybe
even never knew is that they did a Vogue cover together oh yeah that's like the pinnacle of it
all in Montecito and it was like this beach themed shoot and it the the the subheader it's like
Taylor and Carly unstoppable inseparable adorable well though they've been separated you know you don't go from like that to then never being together ever again and there's
not bad blood you just don't and every girl knows that and there was a time where like Taylor stopped
doing like the BFF things publicly because she got a lot of flack for it but she's very much like
in her bestie era like Gigi Blake Livelylly teller like even though she didn't do the squad
thing anymore she still has been doing her best selena and like blake lively has been around since
the carly days haim have been around g girlies so it's carly one of these things is not like the
other and it's carly and i think every now and then they try, cause Taylor, Carly also went to Reputation and
there was a, they were, there was a break. Yes. There was like a big fight there. They weren't
talking. Then she went to Reputation tour and everybody was like, what? Then they never spoke
again. And then a lot of music came out right where you left me is so Carly Claus coded,
especially because as far as I know, that's the only one of Taylor's friends who married a Jew.
And there's a line in there about, you know,
smashed glass under the cloth,
like literally about a Jewish wedding.
Oh my God. Let me find the lyric because I'm botching it.
What?
Yeah.
And Carly had a small wedding, right?
Like Taylor wouldn't have been there.
I mean, if they were friends, she would have been there.
But I feel like it was one of those, like,
two people and a witness sort of thing.
When I felt the moment stop stop glass shattered on the white cloth
everybody moved on i stayed there glass shattered on the white i need to see all the lyrics of
course it could be like yeah you broke a cup on a tablecloth it could be that break up friends
get married oh okay carly but it's about a marriage strangers get born strangers get
buried sure whatever trends change it's funny how marriage. Strangers get born. Strangers get buried. Sure. Whatever. Trends change.
It's funny how like one lyric can mean something
and the rest I'm like discard.
Trends change. Rumors fly through new skies.
But I'm right where you left me.
Matches burn after the other pages turn and stick
to each other. Wages
earned and lessons learned.
Wages. That's a weird word to use.
Well I think it also has to do with Carly
being close with Scooter. Yeah. But I am right where you left me help i'm still the restaurant still sitting in a corner i
haunt cross-legged in the dim light they say what a sad sight it's where you could hear a hairpin
drop right when i felt the moment stop glass shattered on the white cloth that would have
been when she got married everybody moved on i stayed there dust collected on my pinned up hair
they expected me to find somewhere some perspective but i sat and stared so that's tough because who what kind of friend feels that way about a friend getting married right then it's
giving gay lore k-lore right right right right but she said friends move on friends get married and
i really don't think and do people like to date people who look exactly like them they are twins
like and especially in that era of taylor's life Yeah. She looked so much like her. Do people like that?
I don't know.
Maybe it's like a sort of like selfish, like egotistical thing.
But Taylor's not like that.
No, but I think everyone has different like types and tastes.
And is there a type that like wants to date your twin?
There's only, I don't believe the Gaylor-Kaylor folklore.
But there is one.
Gaylor-Kaylor folklore?
There is one compelling argument. And I just need to find the song. D the song dress no i don't think that one's about her hold on give me two seconds it's going
to take me a while okay but we could go down this rabbit hole all day long and i stay out of it
you do i think it's from hold on there is a taylor song where a lyric
just give me two seconds like it's, we were just talking about this phenomenon.
Which?
When two best girlfriends and a friend gets a boyfriend.
We were, yes.
And the girl, the girl without a boyfriend is kind of like, hey, look at me.
And it's like, girl, grow up.
Like you're not meant to have.
Yes, we talked about this on the toast.
No, we talked about it.
No, no, I know.
But we also talked about it on the toast.
Because we were having this conversation because I was saying on TikTok, it's like this whole thing about like girls, girls.
Like if you get a boyfriend and you see your friends less, like you, the TikTok generation, they're always talking about it.
It's like, well, you're not a girl's girl.
And you obviously like are a loser.
And I just don't like that because I think when you meet someone who's going to be your partner and your husband and the father of your child, like that should take up most
of your time.
Yeah.
And your priority shift.
And you obviously shouldn't leave your friends behind.
But like the amount of time you spend with your friends is different when you're single
and young versus when you get older and have a partner.
Yeah.
No.
And I think that's a normal thing that happens.
And I think a lot of friendships grow through this, especially when you have a closer than
most female friendship.
Right. Okay. I think I found. and i think that's what this was not gaylor kaylor okay the only compelling gaylor kaylor argument that's ever been made and there's so much lore
about lyrics i'm not going to get into it but the vault song for the very first night there
is a line that like really feels like it was changed
because okay it goes like this didn't read the note on the polaroid picture they don't know how
much i miss you and the lyric would make way more sense if it had originally been written they don't know how much i miss her no polaroid
picture yeah they don't know how much i miss her like that rhymes but she could have said yeah by
the way picture you're like yeah i'm just saying like and by the way she can miss her friend who
she had that unnaturally close girl friendship with no and taylor has like recently for the
first time ever sort of acknowledged like these
crazy rumors.
I think it was like when she released a statement before putting out 1989 and she was like,
I have been like dragged for X for Y and I've been dragged for having no friends, been dragged
for having too many friends, I've been dragged for being too close to certain women.
Like she acknowledged it head on for the first time ever being like, and it's false and it's
stupid.
And the people who believe it, like, like seriously can't be deterred it's not true
I the more we talk about it like the more I can see it I think Taylor was the friend who was left
behind when the best friend got a boyfriend and Taylor's also like a serious artist who writes
about her feelings and it's not like Taylor didn't have boyfriends while she was with Carly
but it was never more important than Carly because it wasn't the real deal.
Oh, I see how you're bringing that back full circle now.
So you don't think the gay lore lore is real.
You think she is writing about Carly, but about the breakup of a friendship.
But they were one of those friendships that was like one of those, you know, we have dinner together every night.
Like we have sleepovers.
And then when you get a boyfriend, it's like, no, we're having dinner together every night.
We're having sleepovers.
So Taylor is kind of like has that X sort of feeling but they weren't in a relationship but she's
writing about it heartbroken oh you know that's actually a really good analysis I like that like
a heartbroken friend and also I think the reason why so they're not friends anymore because Taylor
was heartbroken by that and like but I think it maybe changed the way that Taylor looks at
friendships and now she maybe has better, healthier friendships with women.
Like all the friends she still has now,
but like Carly for the brunt of her learning experience.
That's interesting.
Of her learned experience.
Okay, professor.
And she kind of exists in the context
of all in which I came before.
Yeah.
Gay lore, K-lore.
Yeah, no, gay lore, K-lore is like not a thing.
Okay, well, i'm glad that in
terms of this actual interview that was the story we were talking about uh big nothing burger and
only fuels my belief that these two fucking hate each other yeah i mean they're all really good
like you obviously haven't listened to it so yeah or if you have you don't want to give a specific
answer because then it shows the person that you hate that you're listening to their music oh but she went to her concert yeah that's the only thing no but i think
like it's like oh no there's no bad blood like we're technically fine we just like don't want
anything to do with each other anymore you know yeah and i do think for the sake of the public
like carly goes to these things to keep that belief like there's no bad blood yeah look she
went to a concert yeah so that's why she goes
no or it's like i like i would enjoy myself i'm not gonna not have a fun night out with my
with my gal pals and it's taylor swift is at this point in her career where she's literally
unavoidable that's what makes it difficult for like him you know she's like always being tied
to taylor there's taylor music in the background when you are the culture yeah it's hard to exist
without you know it's out of the context. Carly must be experiencing that sort of phenomena currently.
Yeah.
Okay.
Great.
Are you ready for our next story?
Kind of adjacent.
Number three.
Yes, I'm ready.
Kind of adjacent because Josh Allen and Haley Steinfeld finally go Instagram official after
one year of dating.
Josh Allen posted a carousel of Instagram images celebrating the first day of training
camp.
And I think it was several of his off-season adventures. It kicked off the carousel with a photo of him and Haley
looking at the Eiffel Tower during their trip to Paris for Fashion Week in March. Then there's also
a photo with his family and she is in it just like regular degular. That's such a regular picture.
The two of them in the middle of like this birthday party for a one-year-old. No. Then there's a photo of Haley walking from behind.
And I think that's Paris. It's just like normal. Like there's a relationship. I have no particular
vested interest in either one of these two individually. Not a big Bills fan. I don't
really know much about Josh Allen's career. I was following him when he did the playoffs and I was,
I was a fan. And I of course know some of Haley Steinfeld's work. I wouldn't say know much about Josh Allen's career. I was following him when he did the playoffs and I was a fan.
And I, of course, know some of Haley Steinfeld's work.
I wouldn't say I'm a big follower or fan of hers.
I would lay my life out on the line for these two.
I hope, I only wish the best for them.
I find myself constantly thinking about them.
I think they are a perfect match.
No, I'm really obsessed.
And I often forget that they're together. But when I remember, it gives me a burst of joy and serotonin I completely agree and what I would request I'm gonna make a formal request for
more okay like I want Haley at games I want her in his jersey number like I want the Taylor Swift
you want like the full wag experience I do and I think we deserve it and now they're a year under
their belt like I think they're so legit I hope hope they get engaged soon. I just, I want more of this. I completely agree. And it
really, for me, and I think for like Bill's mafia, as they say, it's, you know, rising tides,
rise all sides on my list of teams that like I support theoretically, I would say like, because
of this, the bills are top five, maybe like it, for me, it goes 49ers jets. But you know, like
Bill's fans, there's some drama they
don't like her because he was dating like a local yokel I think oh maybe like threw her to the side
for the big star I don't want to know the details because it might affect how I feel about these two
and I don't want how I feel about these two to change so seriously I don't want to know bugger
off okay like I think I had a long time love who everybody loved no please
is it roger robert herjavec syndrome like leaving your girl of many years who was there for you when
you were nobody for the lady you met on dancing with the stars perhaps because if we're gonna put
a name to this type of syndrome it's gonna be the robert herjavec syndrome perhaps however i don't
want to hear about it okay in the same way you don't want to hear about robert robert herjavec
in the same way robert herjavec and the woman he met on Dancing with the Stars are OTP. They have children together. Like,
yeah, he did the right thing for Robert's self. Right. Like at one, at a certain point when it
comes to the other woman. It's Jason Aldean and Brittany Aldean. A thousand percent. At some
point. You can't tell me nothing. At some point you have to. Ship harder than we've ever shipped
before. Yeah. And I think having kids like robert herjbeck it definitely you know
and he changes things like and it's he has also said like it was he was in a bad place when
he had met him like they were separated like he was very lonely like it's not like it was a happy
marriage that was broken up not that like i just i just i moved on okay i have to say something i
accidentally just unplugged my microphone for two seconds and plugged it back in.
Like, do you think we're good?
How did you unplug?
Like I just pressed this little button.
Why don't you stop it?
But like it's working.
Like look.
Okay.
And I hear myself and it never stopped.
I think it's fine.
I think it's fine.
Okay.
Like just if you hear past 40 minute mark, like we're so lost.
So yes, they have crossed over the robert herjavec rubicon no the robert herjavec bridge like okay
you know it's like the robert herjavec memorial bridge i agree except i actually think it should
be the jason aldean memorial bridge because that one we don't even bring up anymore and that's
where we famously started saying on the toast lest we not forget i was like you can take all
the instagram pictures you want like britney aldean you were still the other woman but at
this point like she's just the woman,
you know?
No, no, no.
I have,
like we have to forget.
I actually had to jog my memory to recall.
I know.
Because she's the one.
The marriage before.
She's the one for him.
But he has kids
from the previous marriage too.
Yeah, and with her.
That's why it was a hard pill to swallow.
Same with Robert Herjavec.
But Josh Allen doesn't have kids.
He wasn't even married.
No, so honestly,
whatever happened with the girl before,
like sorry,
it's not my problem. I don't want to know i wish her the best like seriously
details of this do not interest me yes are you ready for our next story do i want to get up
romeo scratching at the door you definitely can't hear it on the microphone so no but i don't want
him to scratch up the door scratch that scratch he stopped okay continue our next two stories are a
bit of book news okay first share will release a two-part memoir
that finally reveals her true story in intimate detail.
Okay.
Cher is ready to tell all.
The goddess of pop announced Wednesday
that she will release a two-part memoir.
After more than 70 years of fighting
to live her life on her own terms,
Cher finally reveals her true story in intimate detail,
reads the description by HarperCollins, the publisher.
The first book, which is 480 pages,
hits stores on November 19th,
and the second is expected sometime in 2025.
So Share the Memoir Part 1
will recall her childhood and marriage to Sunny,
detailing the highly complicated relationship
that made them world famous,
but eventually drove them apart.
I feel like a lot of people are waiting for this book,
you know, and they have been waiting. I am personally not one of them. I love celebrity memoirs. Cher isn't
someone who like at the peak I was conscious for. And now in her, you know, post peak life like that
I follow. I've actually seen her live. I think she's amazing. I'm not going to read this book.
I don't like this just sort of precedes any like I don't care. I don't think I'll read this book.
However, I could see myself reading it and then be like invested in chair.
And that's a journey I'd be happy to go down.
So I will hold space for that.
Harper Collins teased that it's a life too immense for only one book.
It's true.
It's not true.
I feel like there are biographies about Winston Churchill.
Martin Luther King.
One book.
It's so true.
And also there's no page cap doing
a thousand page book it's giving money grab okay actually that's factual there's like anyone can
have their biography or memoirs distilled into one book and kind of changing like the very sort
of cemented like every book ever written like especially in terms of biographies like have been
one book and pages like you said are limitless changing that and do like a cliffhanger
at the end of book one like it's some sort of fantasy series like the court of those in roses
like i don't like it i don't like it abraham lincoln it's so true can get into one book yeah
if he can do it share it's true so but this is exciting for like the the share stands i think
it's like the gay community and also the older community who were, were alive and
like, we're probably obsessed with Sonny and Cher and like, what went down?
This is going to be massive.
And I understand the inclination to want to, you know, catch every, every red cent, but
I don't know.
It's silly.
And it's like a scary precedent.
Like, is everybody going to do two books now?
No, it's, it's true.
Like, can we just, and I know the book industry is like constantly fighting to stay alive,
you know, in this digital age of Amazon.
I think the book industry is having a great run right now between BookTok, between Kindles,
between the Redheads.
Like, it's all coming up books.
It's true.
It's true.
But it's still definitely a tough industry to be in print.
Like, I don't think you can argue against that.
So I understand they have to get creative at times.
And like, you know, I have to seize a moment.
Like Cher agreeing to write a book is a moment.
But like, I don't know.
I don't think we really should be messing with what works.
Yeah.
What's standard.
She said, I've lived too long and done too much.
And so it's like, it should be the encyclopedia.
But like the encyclopedia is.
Is one book.
One book.
Or every letter.
One per letter.
Okay.
See. She's not the encyclopedia. No. book one book or every letter one per letter okay see she's not the
encyclopedia you know see share exactly right c is for share that's good enough for me is share's
name share we'll find out in share the memoir part one maybe we'll actually only find out in
part two now let's play our favorite game what should she have titled her memoir sharing it all
i was thinking something
like that obviously using share as like a double entendre because what is she doing in the book
she's sharing with an ass i shall share hold on sharing is yeah that that that sharing is caring
okay great but what is it called just share share the memoir part one then share the memory that's
good too and it makes it like serious but i like when it comes to celebrity memoirs to get creative with the title of course
the cover is beautiful memoirs of a gay shot comes to mind it's giving like serious
piece of work that you have like on your nightstand yeah no I like it not like a piece
of shite celebrity memoir you know it's giving anthology yeah not like you know some of them
are like a pamphlet yeah yeah no you're getting away with like a book of short stories.
Like, how short?
Well, really, like, how funny?
If they're funny, I'll allow it.
Agreed.
The only person who, in my opinion, is allowed to continue writing short stories is Gary
Giannetti, because they get better every time.
Well, Josh Gad is writing short stories, and I'm holding space for those.
Agreed.
Memoirs of an Olaf.
You loved Tom Segura's book of short stories.
Loved Tom Segura's. I short stories. Love Tom Segura's.
I,
well,
this wasn't a celebrity.
You know,
actually I feel like I'm like the perfect demo for a book of short stories.
I should do that more.
Yeah.
Like you have a short attention span.
I'm counting on it.
I hate reading long books.
Yeah.
All right.
I just feel like once I finally give a shit about the story they're talking about,
it's over.
So true.
That's the problem.
And then we got to start anew.
And I'm like,
oh,
okay.
With the exception of Gary Gennetti,
I think his,
his short stories actually connect to one another he's like always
referencing like a story that came before so good like him working at that restaurant eating french
fries over a trash can it's like a short story i cite all the time happy birthday to people
that's i feel like you always cite his um piano lesson one what was that i don't know you like
told me to read it you were like he takes a piano lesson he's learning beauty of the beast or
something no beauty and the beast is a different
short story from new teeth and it's like an analysis on the beauty and the beast live action
no remake and it's hysterical okay then you always reference the gary genetti short story where he
took piano lessons like was hating it because we had a very similar thing okay i don't even remember
it it's and he's coming with another book i need to purchase exciting well our fifth and final
story another celebrity book
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Bert. Our fifth and final story, a little more celebrity book news. One of my favorite actresses
of all time is writing a book and it is fiction is fiction oh such a unique road to take when people
do this obviously snooki's fiction book comes to mind kendall and kylie's fantasy book comes to
my julian huff just wrote a fiction book definitely a weird thing to do well not for me and my fave
do you want to try and guess who one of my favorite actresses is emma roberts because
she's in the book space no and you love her love her. Okay, I don't know then.
That was my only guess.
Okay, Kristen Ritter.
I actually might have guessed that.
I know like a fun fact about you
is you love that random girl
from the being apartment 23.
I will literally search her on my TV
and watch everything that she's in.
Which is so shocking
because she does a lot of superhero stuff
and you don't fuck with that at all.
Well, she's Jessica Jones
and I like Jessica Jones.
Oh, okay. The show on Netflix that was of course canceled before its time because I liked
it. But I did. She's also in like a new comic book thing. Orphan Black, which seems too twisted for
my taste. So I'm going to skip that one. But she's also in Breaking Bad, which everyone knows I didn't
watch. Okay. So you are not a Kristen Ritter fan. No, I am. I watch the things that people don't
watch. I support when no one else shows up.
Anyways, Kristen Ritter is exploring a dark side of a con artist's mind in her new thriller novel.
So Kristen Ritter is returning to the mystery genre with a new book.
The actress announced exclusively with People that she will publish her second novel called Retreat through HarperCollins.
Big day for HarperCollins.
What was her first book?
A memoir or another fiction?
I think another fiction. Okay, so So must have done decent. Right. In 2025, the book is co-written
with someone else. She said, I'm really excited about this book. It's been many years in the
making and it's been so fun to write. So many things I want to note. First of all, the cover
is gorgeous and I have to wonder if that's her. It looks like her. It kind of does. Yes, it does.
And why wouldn't it be her? She's the type of girl that would be on the cover of a book. Like she's got a beautiful face.
Yeah.
I think that celebrities writing fiction is the strangest thing.
And of course, like the flops come to mind.
Like I said, Snooki writing a fiction book about a girl who goes to the Jersey Shore
like was seriously peak comedy.
Kylie and Kendall.
But a lot of people don't know there are success stories.
You know, Kurt from Glee is the author of this like insanely popular kids, like young adult fantasy series. It's like a Harry Potter.
It's so popular. He must be so wealthy. He never acted again. He like wrote this one book. It took
off and he's like huge in the YA fantasy community. So that is somebody who's done it well. I think
Kristen Ritter doing it now a second time is proof that the first one was probably popular I'm not sure of it but this is like a weird trope for
me I have a hard time like understanding no I'll allow it plus the genre of it I do feel like is
con gross with the work that she does and she probably has a lot of experience she's probably
read a lot of scripts of similar sort of stuff so I feel as though she's an expert in the subject
matter of thrillers yeah and here's the the synopsis of the book which sounds good retreat follows liz dawson a con artist used to blending
in used to blending in crowds after she's offered a job in the home of isabel beresford a wealthy
woman with a villa on the mexican coast liz jumps at the chance for a fresh start and to quit
grifting for good wealth no it wealth it does sound good and I wouldn't put Kristen Ritter in the
bucket of like actresses who write fiction books and flop like you don't get a second book deal
if your first book wasn't popular like literally you have like a big shit stain on your resume if
your book flops you'll never get another book deal again because the publisher lost money on
you like you're out yeah I'm gonna make a pledge to read this book okay you guys let's hold her
accountable I've made a pledge and even
if i'm not in a reading season when it comes out in march i will choose it for the right i was
gonna say you should choose it for me to read something that i want to read and that's like
a collab of the century the toast x redheads i love that totally x kristin ritter my fave and
if you haven't watched don't trust the b like go find it and watch it and treat yourself it's
literally it's very good such an amazing show it's very good it's called don't trust the b in apartment 23 and when i re-watched it it was on a program like a
netflix or something i didn't have to purchase it even if you have to buy it on amazon prime i'm
gonna say it's worth the money wow okay she's putting her money where her mouth is it's probably
what 30 for a season 20 yeah these days like a season of a show has like it's 24.99 i think it's
worth that and then you own it you can watch it whenever you
want how fun for you we have a fabulous set of dear toasters today and let me say this
dear toasters is our weekly advice segment where you can write in to get advice from your girls
experiencing something at work at home in your relationship in a friendship that you think you
would love to hear from two sound of mind queens email us to your toasters at gmail.com
or you can write in to uh the toast podcast.com or you can write into uh the toast
podcast.com our website there's a little submission box at the bottom both are anonymous and you know
i think our advice has gone kind of viral because we have people writing in on other people's
behalves ready for this this squirrelly wrote in because her mom is going through something and her
mom said i want to hear from the girls okay now if that's not an endorsement i don't know what is
let's go hello jackson clard i'm
writing on behalf of my mom who is wanting your girl's perspective my dad has a high-paying job
in the financial world he often works with other women but my mom always tags along to events has
never had any issues until something weird happened last week last saturday they were out and about
shopping when they ran into a woman that is one of in one of his business groups it's like a
networking group they do not work at the same company. Okay.
My parents ended up grabbing a drink with this lady
and things got weird.
She made several comments
about how my dad is exactly her type.
If she were to remarry,
it would be someone just like him.
She made comments about loving his style,
his mannerisms.
She said that he's the only man
she'd let boss him around.
My mom was uncomfortable,
but she didn't really make any comments.
She sarcastically laughed.
She since has noticed that the lady texts him random things like happy Father's Day.
Here's the question.
Is she overstepping?
How would you ladies feel?
Should he leave the extracurricular business group?
He said that he would.
Any and all advice is appreciated.
Thanks, ladies.
Yeah, she's overstepping.
Now, it's hard for me to give advice to someone like older than me.
So I'm going to think of it as if it were in my, I was in your shoes. And I feel like it's hard for me to give advice to someone like older than me. So I'm going to think of it as if it were in my I was in your shoes.
And I feel like it's fair.
I want to say this lady has nothing to worry about because it takes two people to cheat.
And the fact that your husband is sharing with you that this lady from the group is
texting him and should I leave the group?
He sounds like a stand up guy.
But, you know, women can be, you know, Jezebels.
Yeah.
And she's trying to worm her way.
She's like not even being subtle about it.
She's a freak.
And I don't like having close proximity to freaks.
No,
but should he have to leave the group because she is there?
I don't know.
I think she should leave.
Okay.
He offered.
There's other groups.
Right.
But because of like one woman,
like,
or,
or right,
right. Why should he have to suffer for this freak?
Block her.
Yeah. And then like, make her feel weird for being a freak how often do the groups meet i'm thinking it's something like
uh bi-monthly yeah if that uh maybe like events once a month and like you're there i don't think
he has to like leave the group and might be a prestigious group because sometimes like these
groups you have to have like a certain net worth to even get in so i think he should stay in the
group but like be on alert, block her from his phone.
Don't let him go to those groups events if it's a social event without you.
And also just monitor like he's sharing everything with you.
So he obviously has nothing to hide.
He's a P-jom.
If he stops sharing, like your red alerts can go on.
But at this very moment, you have a fabulous husband and you have nothing to worry about
but nobody was ever you know punished for being prepared yeah and just cautious yeah and you don't
want to be like insecure and be like leave the group block the number Jackie's right you shouldn't
leave the group especially those groups are probably difficult to get into I don't know I
don't have a high paying finance job and I'm not a part of any networking groups like okay kill me
thanks for making me realize my life sucks,
but yeah,
he shouldn't have to leave.
I think it's something like that you work for,
like you have to apply.
Yeah.
But block the lady,
like make her feel weird.
Like you,
and this is just something I've been feeling recently.
And,
and in general we have as a society,
we have kind of gotten rid of shame.
People don't feel ashamed.
They feel empowered.
I think we've empowered a little too close to the sun because this lady obviously read
some sort of book or some Instagram meme that was like, go for what you want.
Yeah.
And we need to bring shame back.
This lady needs to feel embarrassed.
And that's an emotion that I don't think a lot of people feel anymore because we've
empowered them to just put themselves first.
Yeah.
I'm not into that.
You should feel embarrassed for acting inappropriately with a married man and i
think you and your mom and your husband and her husband's goal should be at this very moment to
make this lady feel embarrassed and i just want to say like if things continue to escalate and
you want to engage in a little subterfuge might i suggest going to the wives of the other husbands
in the group oh i love that and letting them know that she's on the prowl.
She's coming for your man.
She's looking for a man in finance, six, five blue eyes.
And so that everyone, like it's a little mean,
but if she's behaving this way,
she needs to be shut out of the group.
No, I agree.
Like I said, shame is a powerful emotion.
It's a grossly underutilized emotion.
And let other women help you in this
because nobody wants this kind of woman
around their husband. And you know, I hate to always bring it back to this, but if shame was
a more prevalent emotion, I just want to say we'd still have the Dublin portal. And I think that's
something we're really missing out on. And that's powerful. Yeah. Cause I don't know today what's
going on in Dublin. And you're suffering because of it. Our second tier toaster is one I teased at
the early top of the show about her sourdough issue. Tell me. Hello, ladies. I'm a huge fan
here with an extremely first world dilemma. I'm going on a trip soon and my sourdough starter is
in tip top shape. It's actually an old world dilemma. So true. Very Oregon Trail dilemma,
if you will. We're going on a trip soon. My sourdough is in tip top shape. Would it be crazy
for me to pay someone to come to my house and feed it while we're gone yes i'm scared to bring it up to my
husband because i can only imagine the look he will give me but he pays for dog sitters while
we go on trips so is this really all that different all's to say please let me know if i'm a trad
wifing too close to the sun love you dearly okay you have two options tell us more normal is to
leave it in the fridge they're going away for a week she just said we're going on a trip soon
okay yeah leave it in the fridge and when you come back you give it you feed it well maybe twice a day it will come back
like a reminder if it can survive the oregon trail it can survive your trip to the keys
or it depends where you're going you take it with you bring like you know 30 grams um and then buy
flour and water wherever you are and feed it every day. To me, that's crazy. That's the more extreme of the two, but it's less extreme than hiring someone.
Yeah, I don't know why we had to jump to hiring.
Do you have a close friend or family member who can just stop by and feed it?
Or you could give it to them.
They don't need to come to your house every day.
How long can a sourdough chill in the fridge?
Weeks.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, girl girl you're being crazy and even if it gets like the stuff on
it that like you can like sometimes it'll get like black stuff on top you can just drain it out and
keep going okay like it really takes a lot to kill it okay i think it can even go months in the fridge
i think maybe this girl doesn't know that maybe she's new like maybe she was inspired by you so
keep it in the fridge or you could also keep most of it in the fridge take a little with you and try
and feed it while you're away and if you do if you're not able to do it you still have
your one from home at the fridge i think taking it with you is crazier than hiring someone for real
i took mine with me here because you were gonna make bread yeah she's just taking it to feed it
not to make anything choice is fine but if you're traveling a lot or if you're in a house and you
can get you know you need a scale and you need flour or just leave it in the fridge it will be fine and then you'll feed it well when you get
home i have to imagine she didn't know that the fridge like would keep it alive okay okay now you
know yeah you can keep it in the fridge our third and final dear toasters is an update from somebody
we read um uh quite recently so this was her original issue hi jackson claude i love the
toast i listen every day i'm really in need of help i slept with my best friend's brother it was a drunken night and
we've known each other forever it was about a year and a half ago my sister has been dating him for
the past year and now they're engaged she has no clue that we slept together i feel like it may
have meant more than just a drunken hookup do i tell her or let it be sincerely a toaster who
slept with her best friend's brother and soon to be-be brother-in-law. The update is not what we wanted to hear.
And our advice was what?
Our advice was to just let bygones be bygones.
Like, your sister's engaged.
Like, it's not about you.
Like, move on.
And I remember saying, like, it wasn't more than what you felt it was.
Because you'd be engaged.
Okay, but you were wrong.
This is the update from the sister's fiancé that I had relations with before she got engaged.
We ended up seeing each other at the family's 4th of July party.
He drunkenly came up to me when the fireworks were going off and said, you look so good.
I didn't know what to do or what to say because like I said before, I still have feelings for him.
We ended up making out in the bathroom.
I feel so guilty.
I didn't let anything else happen, but what do I do?
I feel disgusting.
He told me in the bathroom he would end things with my sister if I would marry him.
I have no words. Please help me. I really like him, bathroom he would end things with my sister if I would marry him. I have no words.
Please help me.
I really like him, but he's literally engaged to my sister.
Like I said, we as a society need to bring back shame.
Making out with your sister's fiance is so not okay.
Making out with anyone's fiance is not okay.
Doing it to your sister is such another level of betrayal.
Now, you probably have a pit and I don't want to make you feel worse about it but we do really just need to come to a sort of collective
agreement that like this is so not fucking okay no so many things are swirling now that you've
made out with him like you everybody needs to know everything first of all he's a piece of shite
so your sister shouldn't be marrying a piece of shite. And now at this point,
your sister needs the information.
I agree.
But we also need to talk about you.
Okay.
Cause you're a referendum on you.
Referendum on you grow up.
Like you had relations with him one time and you've been thinking about him
ever since,
even though he's literally engaged to your sister.
And if he really wanted to marry,
it couldn't be closer to my mouth.
Claudia.
No,
I know,
but I hear you in my ear.
You're just like,
I'm going out. No, when you look at me no when you look at me
just okay so i won't look at you anymore i'm gonna look at swallow it this fucking bitch
like it's literally up i'm just saying like i am the tech department and i'm having a crisis
i can't look at you no if you do just take your microphone with you exactly literally exactly go
i don't like this go okay wait till she hurts okay we need to talk about
the girl yeah a referendum on the girl seriously grow up okay because he doesn't want to marry you
because if he wanted to marry you he would have proposed to the sister that he slept with right
so he just wants to be a piece of shite getting with two sisters so now your sister needs to know
because all of this is going on and Right, you've done so much damage.
You can't do more by letting your sister marry this guy.
And now he's acted poorly within the confines of their relationship.
Whereas before, he's able to do whatever he wants.
It predated what happened.
Them being in a relationship.
So you need to go to her, hat in hand, tell her everything.
Like, I don't know what she's going to do.
She can do whatever she wants.
But you are now actively in the wrong by not sharing the information before
it had happened before but I also think that he's the type of person that goes around kissing people
who's not his fiance yeah you're not special I don't think this is the first time it won't be
the last it's just a family fourth of July party like what is he gonna do on his bachelor party
yeah oh god Jax is spilling facts she's 100% right you're very sadly not the only
girl he's kissed and so you getting like swept up in it like that's just sad because it's not you
like it's just it's not and now you've betrayed your sister so you act now you need to actively
help yeah so let's see what her reaction is. And we'll take it from there. But you letting
your sister like continue to be engaged and eventually marry this guy like that is even
more of a betrayal than making out with him. So consider that you feel bad about. Unless you guys
just like aren't that close and you could just let her go and get married and then maybe you guys
drift apart. Because how can you be close to someone when you have this secret?
No, and I don't mean that in a serious like I'm not like shading you like you can you be close to someone when you have this secret no and i don't mean that in a serious like i'm i'm not like shading you like you can't be close with someone when you have
secrets between you yeah so if you guys are drifting apart anyway well sayonara i also feel
like this girl is like well if they break up maybe i can marry him yeah no i think that's kind of the
most important part here is like you unfortunately in this particular saga are not the
main character I think you see it as like this is your one great love and like what's standing in
the way your sister and whatever but like Jackie said like this is the type of guy who makes out
with girls a lot like I think he just wanted to make out I don't know if it really had much to do
with you so I kind of think you need to take yourself out of this and don't see yourself
you're not caught in this like love triangle whirlwind romance this isn't something borrowed
like and would you really want to be with a guy who would cheat on his fiance
with her sister no that's not the guy for you deserve better than that this is not your man
and it's not her man and you need to start helping because you're you're actively hurting you weren't
before nothing wrong with having slept with someone who ends up later on in life doing
something wrong with like okay so you felt ends up later on in life doing something. And nothing wrong with like,
okay, so you felt something for him.
You hadn't done anything wrong until the make out.
But like you can move on from feelings.
I feel like people think,
well, I like him, so I'm kind of stuck here.
Like, no, get up, get out there, meet someone else,
put him to the back of your mind.
You'll be okay.
This isn't-
That's what I mean by grow up.
This isn't Pride and Prejudice.
Like it's not a book, it's not a movie.
It's just a crush.
And if it was more than that,
he's your best friend's brother.
You've known him for years.
There was ample opportunity.
You slept together.
Why didn't it go further than that there?
Like you can put him out of your mind,
but it requires mental work.
And that's why I say grow up.
And I co-sign everything Jackie just said
because she read you to absolute fucking filth.
But I love you and I support you.
Always and forever. Here for you. And I want an update because I'm here for you but it's
tough love that I'm giving today yeah and some that's required and that's how you know that I
love you because if I didn't care I'd say oh but as he loves you you guys thank you so much
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