The Toast - Girls Trip to Brisborne: Tuesday, June 30th, 2026

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 It's Jackson Claude and every show The Fast Five Things You Need to know We'll start your day off, Swirley, it's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday That feels like a Monday because girl, we're back. Let me tell you, everyone loved yesterday's episode And I'm so glad, but like, I've never worked so hard.
Starting point is 00:00:33 I'm not so hard on the ones and twos. I've never worked so hard in my whole life. Like I just, this to me is not work. We have a balance. It's sisterly chit-chat. Doing both the ads and the students. stories like it's just try being an influence of her today you guys try it well i'm back thank you for holding it down while i missed you i missed you so good to be back thank you thank you yes back home
Starting point is 00:00:55 we were in dallas for the weekend took a co journey went to a beautiful wedding have you gone to a wedding since being a mom that's a great question Claudia it's too much wait let me think for real I don't think that you have, because I was trying to think if you have, if you've had this experience that, like, I had of going to a wedding and being a mom. And, like, it's just so. Yes, I have. Oh, who? Margo.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Our friend Margo. Yeah, Margo. Yeah. It's just so emotional. I agree. It's so emotional. And as a hormonal postpartum woman, like, it's just too much for me to be at, like, such a beautiful, it was like such a beautiful Jewish wedding.
Starting point is 00:01:38 It was meant to be in Israel. We were going to go to Israel for it. Instead, they brought Israel to Dallas. To the homeland. It was so beautiful. I want to say mazel tub to the bride and groom. Thank you so much for having us. Like, I was so moved by the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I'm really too emotional to go to a wedding right now. I can't even listen to you describe Orbiter. How can I go to a wedding, listen to Bowie Kala? I can't do it. I have always been like that person crying at weddings. Like, I think that weddings, and I just want to say, this is not a slight to anyone else. This is not a supremacist's statement.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Like, don't look into what I'm saying. But I don't know if I've really ever been to a wedding. that wasn't a Jewish wedding. But I imagine if I did, I wouldn't be as emotional. There is something distinctly beautiful about the traditions, the Shever Braheas.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Like, it is so, and it's like a, it's a timeless, they've been doing this, you know. These things have survived wars. The Holocaust. Annihilation. And they always, you know, at a Jewish wedding,
Starting point is 00:02:32 they always bring up the Holocaust because like somebody under the chippa is related to a Holocaust survivor. And let me tell you, like I'm always the girl crying. So I think the first wedding I went to, I was literally still breastfeeding, so I was still postpartum. I definitely cried like the whole time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:46 No, it's just every, there's such a triumph, you know. And I'm sure everybody feels that way about their own religion and culture and their wedding and like feeling so attached to it. And so that's just how I felt at this one and at most. And it was just, it was so beautiful. And honestly, it's hard to go as a mother, even like all the speeches. Yeah, I know. I'm just like, you just must be so proud of these wonderful children that you've raised. Well, I'm glad you had a good time because like we suffered here without you.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So at least it wasn't for nothing. No, it wasn't for nothing. And we're about to swirl it up this summer. So, like, we could go one day apart. We could. This is going to be a true Nalafi. Today's our final episode of the week. So let's take our time.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Let's, you know, let's not be thoughtless. And final. For me, first and final. Let's not be thoughtless little pigs, you know. I would never. Let's have a thoughtful episode. We've got Love Island recap. We've got dear toaster.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I was actually supposed to get a facial, like, after we record today. But she just canceled. So I'm sort of like, free as a bird. Yeah, I have some reading to do. We're recording redheads today. I have to finish the book, which I can't, I'll have enough time to finish it. But that's really it. So yeah, I'm free to chit chat.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. What else can I tell you guys? What do you want to chit chat about? My co-jury. I feel like I had, you know, such a whirlwind. Last you saw me, I was in Dallas in HD. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I forgot that you podcasted from Dallas. So it hasn't been like that long. No, it has. It was just one show that I missed. But I also feel like I haven't caught up with you, like on FaceTime. Oh, and also the best part about this way. wedding additionally was I was sitting at a table of all toasters. Dream.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It was exclusively toasters. I don't know if like the bride did that intentionally so like we could all get swirling together. So you could conduct a meet and greet at the affair. No. And then like the toasters were at the table like we're texting like their fellow toasters and who they knew were toasters in the room. Like it just became like a gizno. It's so unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's like as big celebrities. Sometimes people don't invite us to their weddings because we do sort of take the attention away from the bride. No, we did in that. Oh, we were just like in the corner. being swirling. That happens to me a lot. I'm constantly not getting invited places.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And I'm always taking attention. I met so many great toasts. The toasters are fantastic, you know? I never read a bad toaster in my life. No, and that's why I love to be at a table with toasters because it's just going to be like, you know, girls have the same elk. Actually, speaking of Swirletude,
Starting point is 00:04:56 we posed a sort of an interesting question on the toast yesterday that I would love to get your take on. Okay. Which character from Wicked do you think possesses the most swirletude? On the one hand, Glinda. taking it at face value, you know? Obviously, she's a girly girl, as are we. However, we do have the elk of Alphaba in us,
Starting point is 00:05:27 just a little bit renegade, you know? Truth tellers. So, Ben, yeah. I think, and we had this conversation once, like, who are we in Wicked? Yeah, but that's not the question. No, but, like, I think we speak to a Glenda and an alphabet. Like, there is both.
Starting point is 00:05:43 There's both. So Ben was, like, obviously. Obviously, Glinda. But Ben was looking at it from such like a one-dimensional POV because she like wears pink. Yes, like Swirley is an aesthetic, but it's more so like a state of mind and a characteristic. And I made the argument that actually not one person
Starting point is 00:05:56 at the entire university possess Swirilitude. Not one person does. Not one. Certainly not Nesser Rose. No, I think that both Glinda and Alphabet, this is it. Glinda and Elfabar are both toasters. And that's how they connect. Like that's why even though they seem so different,
Starting point is 00:06:13 they actually can be friends because of like this commonality and their personalities that allows them to be toasters and allows them to be friends. Yes. Yeah, I agree. Alfaba and Glinda are both toasters. 1,000%. Like, done.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. Maybe, like, Glinda comes to Gisna when Alphabet is more of, like, a closet listener. But I know that she can relate to our truth-telling ways. Because I think about us, we're going to tell the truth. Yeah, and nothing but the truth. Whether you like it or not, you can rot in hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And I did catch up on all my love. Love Island, you know, going to a wedding, a three-day wedding weekend and be an active watcher of Love Island. It's very destabilizing. It's not an easy thing. And I, so last night when I came home, I had to watch two episodes. So I watched like one and a half and then I finished the second one while I did my makeup this morning with Granny the Cook, actually. I was really grateful. I had a little stand for my iPad.
Starting point is 00:07:05 But I got rid of her. We're so back. For the last episode of the week. Don't you feel like the last two episodes of Love Island, like both. could have been an email. Everything about love. Like actually, you know what? What's funny is the first three weeks of Love Island up until
Starting point is 00:07:23 Cosamore could have been an email. Yes. Now that we're in it a little more, like the conversations are conversating a little more. Like we're saying some stuff. Like more than we were before. You know, two people sit down to have a conversation and it's not like pulling teeth. What are we going to talk about? Right.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But like the Megyn The Stallion Challenge did not need to be 45 minutes long. Like it never ended. No, it was so stupid. And like, again, why is Meg? the stallion and I loved her presence and I think she like really uplifted the villa and they needed that because everyone was like desperately everyone is sort of for lack of a better term crashing out and they needed that like confidence boost and that energy and I think she brought that but like again why are we watching boys throw cake in the faces of women and that's meant to be empowering and
Starting point is 00:08:05 me and seeing it and letting us know that that's how we're going to feel better and and release all of this tension I ended up on like woke island talk and somebody said and you know what like not me being woke because I agreed with her. That challenge was normalizing domestic violence. Like, dead ass. That was crazy. A thousand percent. Just turnt behavior.
Starting point is 00:08:24 The show is disgusting. Oh, and what was humiliating was that? I played Maja on last night. And I was like, you guys, I will come, but I have to watch Love Island. So, like, we played and it was on in the background. And so there was one girl at the table who watched and then two girls who didn't. Like, I was genuinely humiliated to have. They have no idea what the show is.
Starting point is 00:08:39 They're like, what's this show? At least it wasn't one with a challenge. I know. I was so. At worst, they just thought it was boring. Like you just watch these people talk. I'm like, yeah. So at worst it was boring,
Starting point is 00:08:48 but I was like, please don't do a challenge. Like, because I would have been humiliated in front of my friends. Yeah, no, thank God for that. Thank God for that. So yeah, we're out of Casa, recoupled tonight's movie night. We will do a recap of the last like two or three episodes
Starting point is 00:09:04 because you and I haven't discussed even the recoupling. So that will be in the LeViola recap. We also have to your toasters. How are the stories? Anaya. Anaya. In the words of Tiffany Pollard, It's hard to watch her be so dumb.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah. Yeah. And like, who did you vote for to come back from Casa? Okay, so I didn't vote. You didn't exercise your rights? I didn't. I forget. Oh, because it was on Friday night and I turned my phone off.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Okay. And obviously I was voting for Amor. Of course. Of course. And I was like, you know, I was not. I knew everyone was going to bring back Carl and I was not down. No, I would have brought back Corey. for Melanie.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I literally would have brought back Ronnie for Jen. Like it's just every, not one girl has made a good decision this entire show. Like, and I hate to blame the women, but I just have higher expectations. Of course. I will say, like, this has been definitely a window
Starting point is 00:09:59 into the mind of young men right now. And they are like legitimately evil. Like a lot of these guys, the behavior from Gaul last night, sinister this entire season. It's been very alarming, actually, at what young men interact in relationships he says. I could never be a 21,
Starting point is 00:10:15 year old girl right now like seriously i think that like boys are you know boys will be boys they're acting the way no no that's like i was just saying that they're acting the way that guys have always acted right in terms of action the difference is the way that they speak now and they say the opposite of what they're doing maybe like back in our day they were like fuck boys and they and they never said anything other than that but that's who they were and what you saw was what you get now it's like sincere like acts like a life coach and then he's just like gonna ruin your life coach yeah right Wait, let's save all of this to the TV recap, and then I want to tell you one more thing
Starting point is 00:10:48 before we dive into the stories. Guess I saw on this tree yesterday. I'll give you a clue. What holiday weekend is it? The 4th of July. Kelly Rippa. I saw motherfucking Kelly Rippa. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I got scared. I was like, hopefully she doesn't know about the Kelly's Mindless News segment. She was minding her own business. She looked so insane. Like, she looked so gorgeous. Skin tight. She was wearing a hat, like a cutsy little outfit
Starting point is 00:11:15 because it was a thousand degrees. She looked like a real celebrity, you know, like a glamorous woman. And she wasn't even wearing like a ton of makeup or like a dress. She just looked glamorous. Oh, that's beautiful. I don't feel ready for Fourth of July.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like it's coming on too hard, too fast. Like, I need some more time, you know? This is a big weekend. Maybe this will help prepare you. And then like all the America 250 festivities over after Fourth of July. Maybe this will get you in the mood, okay? And I'm proud to be an American
Starting point is 00:11:44 where at least I know. I'm free and I won't forget the man who died who gave that right to me and I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today because there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the USA. Claudia, that's beautiful. You feel ready? You feel ready? No, but I appreciate the effort.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But you're closer. I guess so. I don't know. It's just like a whirlwind week. I know. It's really summer begins. I want to savor. Maybe I'll feel the energy like when we get to the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's very like. Yeah, it's very Americana. Yeah. I brought like an American flag plate. You're packing a plate? I packed a serving platter. I did. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Well, I packed it in my car. That was shipped up. So that's better. I packed a couple of cooks. but I got such cute like American flag stuff from rifle paper coat and I was like I need this for 4th of July let me bring it to the Hamptons okay that's crazy but I understand the method I actually packs a lot like I actually did pack a plate separate from the serving platter and a couple bowls and and I Dutch oven you packed your touch oven I did pack my Dutch oven do you want to hear why you want to hear
Starting point is 00:13:11 the thinking my facial is canceled so I could tell you you. Okay. So we need a Dutch oven in the Hamptons. What if we want a chili or a cassoulet? We just, we always need a Dutch oven. We're always like running to T.J. Max to find one. And I actually just got like all new Lake Crusay. They gifted me because, you know, my color is being retired, shallot.
Starting point is 00:13:32 So they gifted me like a bunch of product, Dutch ovens, etc. But I have a Dutch oven. So I didn't open any of those yet. And at once I open, but in the new ones, I'm not really going to use like my old blue. So I was like, instead of, why don't I bring it to the Hamptons, retire it there and then instead of having to buy like a cheap one we'll have a retirement ceremony for the old blue lecrette and so like my car was mean chips so yeah throw in a dutch oven whatever whatever what the hell lish and i are aligned lish and i are aligned on this okay that's good yes that's good
Starting point is 00:14:01 we're in alignment well the stars are aligned because jackson clodder back together again and i feel as though it's time to dive into love island to dive into dear toasters and the fast five stories what do you say? I say sure. Without further ado do-d-do-do, it is time for the fast five stories that yida-do need to know. And speaking of things we're packing for swirly summer, today's episode is brought to you by G.U. Their renewal and rejuvenation toning pads, which Jackie's been talking about extensively, and I will say I got my own, like a week or two ago. I've been using them every single day. I love that they don't dry out. Like, it's a lot of pads I feel dry out. Yeah. So these are toning pads, which help improve the look of dark spots, which is something I'm really struggling with,
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Starting point is 00:20:31 I heard a lot of people aren't returning. I don't know if this was true or not. It was just like a rumor circulating that also not returning are pretty much all the new people. K.J. Dara. Ben. Okay. Maybe that was it. Bailey.
Starting point is 00:20:47 No, she's there. Yeah. So that makes sense. KJ. Darra. Bailey was great. Yeah. So that's, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And Sierra and Lindsay are operating the. same capacity where they're like not full time but they're like you know featured yeah tile yes where did you see all this threads I did I tell you every downloaded threads that's like where everything summer house on the violin goes down yeah sorry I needed to do it for my work okay go ahead now I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but this show sounds boring and it's really reminding me of vanderpump rules except with vanderpump rules everybody filmed so like we got another like one or two good seasons out of it because everyone like was dealing with the fallout from that. I know we had to fire them. Like I know they're bad evil people but like I kind of want to see what
Starting point is 00:21:34 they're up to. Yeah. And like if their relationship is sort of struggling, which I feel like it is. You do. Dumois said that like somebody overheard them in a bar saying I love you. But like that's Dumas. I don't know. I feel like they're having a hard time. I don't think it's like amazing. and it would be interesting television and watching them like try to, you know, build back friendships. And by the way, it's entirely possible that they weren't asked back or that they didn't want to come back. I think like West maybe, but I think maybe Amanda's like had enough.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I don't know. I don't know whose call it was. I don't really care. All I know is like the cast that was introduced to me sounded boring as hell. Like I feel like this back where we're at the show got this huge bump, this national platform. And it's like, okay, we cut up all the like interesting bits out. And now we're just left with the same cast.
Starting point is 00:22:20 We've had it for the last 10 years. Yeah, no, this wouldn't have been like my call, as I said, but I feel like I'm always on the opposite side of like what the production would do. Unless they're on in the city. Well, yeah, but so is Kyle. No, but I need Amanda and West somewhere. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 They're crazy. I need to hear from the summer house. I can't take on in the city. I'm sorry. I just can't. So funny, because last night at Majong, my friend Rachel was like, are you watching in the city? And I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And she was like, what? Like, I just, I can't. Like, between Love Island and I have a full-time job. Maybe after Love Island. ask me again and after the summer because I want to enjoy my summer. Being introduced to all these new people, like no one, I watched the first two episodes. Nobody really stuck out to me. And I'm not, I'm actually at a place right now with my Bravo people.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like I can't take on new Bravo liberties. Like I'm still dealing with the ones that I currently have. Yeah. Yeah. So just because they're going to in the city, I don't know like how much that means. Like I'll watch Summer House. But I don't, I think that's about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:19 This just sounds boring. Like when I saw the lineup, Jesse was back. Like it was a good show before West Mandeville. Like it was a fine show. It wasn't super popular. Like, actually no, it was. It was popular. But it wasn't, you know, the thing everyone was talking about.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And now it is, and we're removing the element of why people are talking about it. And like, I get it. We want Sierra back and Sierra would never film with them. But I don't think Sierra should be back on this show. I think she's graduated. I think it was the best thing that they could have done for her. Yeah, go on to do Dancing with the Stars and spend your summers in Fiji and let them, you know, let them take over this, like, what I think that was a show that's beneath Sierra.
Starting point is 00:23:52 what's bad? Maybe like Jesse, maybe the other castmates don't want to film with them, not just Sierra. Maybe, but I don't know. I think Jesse could forgive West. It's just going to take time and thought.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But it's like now that if he's not on the show anymore, like will they all still be? Are they still doing Ozark? Are they still doing what? Ozark. Then there's, you know, the, the rumor of Ozark like that everyone's talking about Ozark. But no, it's like if they went back on the show,
Starting point is 00:24:21 Jesse and West would eventually be friends again because they would film together, they would have a lot of conversations, they would finally talk. And it's like, if he doesn't go back on the show, I guess that's it on their friendship because, like, who's going to put all that much energy into something if you're not being filmed?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah. And I actually think that the damage done to their friendship is, like, more than we think. Yeah, I mean, Jesse's done with West. Jesse's me at a wedding. Can't stop crying. Yeah, literally. Yeah, I think it's worse than we even know
Starting point is 00:24:47 because it's not like the main point of this whole scandal. Like, it's a subplot. Yeah. Yeah, it's very sad. So, okay, they've made their choice. Also, Sierra's currently on AfterSun, and I just want to say, I feel like, I know she had to take the job when they offered it to her,
Starting point is 00:25:08 but I feel like in hindsight. It's an honor, and it's a huge platform. No, it's a huge, it's a huge platform. But I think in hindsight is kind of a bad call because, first of all, I don't know if you saw they're like getting backlash. And it's just like the Love Island fans are so mentally ill that like no matter who does it,
Starting point is 00:25:24 It's not a reflection on their performance. Like you're just going to get hate. They're getting a lot of hate. I think it's kind of taken her out of the world because she's on the other side of the globe. It's taken her out of the world for like two months where it's like opportunities, events, campaigns that she can't do when she was like had a lot of this momentum from the reunion.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And I just feel like she couldn't have known it. But it's like this once a week show that nobody watches and the people that do hate it. And they hate the hosts and they send them death threats. Like her and Tephy are like on third. Breging for their lives. Like, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I feel like it was a bad call. Yeah, but I also think that there's obviously going to be crazy people who like take it so personally and are mad. I found it crazy that they were responding to people. Oh, me too. That's just bad. Like you're on TV. Like they're in their basement.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Like you don't have to respond. Jackie, they're literally on an island like with nothing else to do. That's what I mean. I don't think it's good for her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen all of what's being said and I don't like I don't even know what they've done.
Starting point is 00:26:22 There's not even like one criticism. People are like, you're deciding. with the girls too much. Other people, you're studying with the guys too much. People saying that, like, they just, you know, regurgitate things they see on TikTok. And it's like, okay, doesn't everyone do that? Like, it's just... No, but I, when you are a host, and this is, like, being lost,
Starting point is 00:26:37 but, like, you're meant to just host. Like, you're not taking size. You're not, like, the personality. Oh, and then I also heard that the two of them are, like, bickering a lot. Really? In fighting within the host. Yeah, I saw, like, an awkward clip. Oh, that is awkward, because last I saw them in the challenge, they were, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:53 best season. Three weeks already. They're also getting Stockholm syndrome. Oh, wow, that's really awkward. But no, like, you don't need to have, like, a ton of personality to be a host. To be host. Just moderate. And actually, when you have a lot of personality as a host, I actually think that is a detriment
Starting point is 00:27:10 to your hosting abilities. Yeah, yeah. And that seems to not be what people are hiring for anymore. Yeah. But I think it's a better way of hosting it. And let the, you know, the story speak for its. self. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Just stay out of the way. I don't know what they're doing and how much personality they're injecting, but like. A decent amount. Mm. I felt that way during the challenge, too. Like, they were kind of stepping on each other to like get a joke in. It was a lot. It was like, like, yeah, it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Very like, rat, ta-cha-cha, like, you know. Because they were finally, like, getting a chance on the main show. Like, they had to, this was their big opportunity. I get it. I would have done the same exact thing. Yeah. Like, you're at such, like, a high level of, like. And how many people you think watch an episode, a given episode of Love Island?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Couple million. It's huge for both of them. Yeah. Yeah. No, they would have never said no. But, like, I mean, nothing's ever going to be completely smooth sailing. Yeah, I just feel like a lot of the wind behind her from the scandal and then, like, all the campaigns. It has sort of fizzled a little bit because she's just sort of been taking out of the equation by living in Fiji for the summer.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Just wait for dancing with the stars. And also, like, two is there, what, six weeks? Wait, July 4th is when Summerhouse starts. So what, she's going to miss, like, the first month. Yeah, but she's a Lindsay. Yeah, but like, that's a lot of time to miss. She'll miss like the first two or three weekends. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Is that it? Yeah, because it ends mid-July. Oh, thank God. Yeah. They keep saying it's been three weeks. We've got probably two and a half more weeks. Can't come soon enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Next story, Lurred this Wedding Patrol. Top Wedding Guru's Post is Sparking Speck. that Taylor and Travis are already married. So the person who was... Oh, really? The person who was rumored to be Taylor Swift's wedding planner and designer, which I feel like was pretty much all but confirmed. His name is Rishi.
Starting point is 00:29:07 He posted this on Instagram. Today I asked 23 of my colleagues if when they started in the event industry, span of 7 to 45 years, that they would have ever dreamed or imagined they would be a part of what we created today. Unanimously, the answer was no. that in itself means more than I can ever explain.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I can't wait to share what we created, but for now I'm just eternally grateful for those who mean more to me than I could ever explain. Then also someone else posted Samantha Roberts, who owns a social media agency known for its strategic orchestration of wedding, release, rollouts, creating digital moments that were able across the internet.
Starting point is 00:29:42 She posted, tonight was a career highlight. 15 years ago, I came to New York because I loved events. I dreamed that one day I'd work events like the one I did tonight. And then... I don't think Taylor hired a social media strategy firm for her wedding, just saying. Well, she might like do content, wedding content.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Like, she has a whole production company. She's not hiring some random wedding vendor. I just want to say, none of this means anything to me. If anyone is actually a contracted vendor for Taylor's wedding, they ain't posted Instagram stories about it that night. Okay, so... I'm sorry, no. So the social media girl tagged a couple people,
Starting point is 00:30:18 including wedding planning guru Marcy Blum. But Marcy Blum says that this was not for Taylor and Travis, but rather a fabulous summer party for her favorite client. Yeah, of course, this is not Marcy Blum. Like Marcy Blum, no. You guys. So what do you think about Rishi's post? So Rishi has not been confirmed, but hasn't been denied.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I think he's potentially, I think maybe he does a lot of, like, really insane events. And perhaps this was just one of them also. As of this moment, like trucks are being loaded into Madison Square Garden. Like the event is, if it is in the garden, whatever, it is actively being set up now. Yeah. So I don't know what the hell they accomplished. Well, when I read. Or or or or.
Starting point is 00:31:08 All of this is, you know, a part of the strategy. Oh, no, I don't think. When I read Rishi's post, I didn't immediately think, oh, they are already married. I thought, oh, the venue was set up. Oh, they had an amazing day of set up. Yeah, except that like fresh flowers are not getting married till Friday. Why would you have the flowers installed on a Monday? Yeah, especially with no light or air.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And yeah, like major weddings, like some weddings they set up in the morning sometimes and I've made your weddings, two days, like maybe three. It's a little early for flowers. They could have had like an event, a wedding event. You know, there's lots of welcome party, rehearsal dinner. What's so exciting is that like this time next week, we should just know a lot more. And that's exciting. also like I saw more fueling the MSG July 3rd theory which is like the one and only theory
Starting point is 00:31:57 and it's either just like totally true or totally not true but there are a lot of street closures within the Madison Square Garden region similar to how they did for the NBA championships where it's like it's like a bubble you can't get in past 9th Avenue and you can't get in past 33rd Street so there is like there was a permit to have those streets closed yeah which is insane that really speaks to her level of fame. Like celebrities get married all the time. They don't shut down like huge streets in the biggest city in the world in the most dense by Penn Station. For multiple days. Like those streets are closed right now or no? July 3rd. She's okay. It's insane. They literally did that for the first time ever for the NBA championships. They don't do that. Like that's crazy. Unless like the president,
Starting point is 00:32:42 I remember one time I was inside of a bubble. I don't know. Bridget shut down the street. She shut down one street in Soho where like this cobblestone. Nobody can even drive. She shut down the street. You can. Dior, yeah. You can shut down the street. You can. You can't shut down a neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:32:59 She's shutting down probably like eight blocks, according to the permits filed by the New York City Department of transit. For July 3rd. For July 3rd. Okay. I'm so excited. Like, this is huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Huge. Yeah. I'm excited too. I'm ready to know more. I guess the next show we do, like we will know something. Oh, that's so true. the next show we do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Watch the space. What a thrillifying tale. I'm listening to The Wicked Tony. Oh. A thrillifying tale. That's a good one. It is. I don't have that one.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Oh, I'll bring it to the Hamptons. You don't know about the thrillifying tale? No. Of Alphaba. The woman who narrated is annoying. Like, is annoying. You're just jealous. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Like, I need, I know all. First of all, Hugh Lorry for Gerald the Draft. Do you have that one? No. Gerald of Can't Dance? Yeah, Gerald the Draft. Hugh Lorry does that, Tony. Is Tony? Giraffes can't dance, you silly fool.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Oh, Gerald, don't be daft. He's so crazy. Are you ready for our next story? I guess. Secret Lives, the Mormon Wives star, Layla Taylor, comes out as bisexual on Jay Shetty. So Layla Taylor sat down with Jay Shetty to announce that she's bisexual. She said, I'm gay and I'm by and I date women and men.
Starting point is 00:34:24 She divuled it during the conversation that she is currently talking to a woman who kicked off their romance by liking one of her Instagram photos, but she did not say who. She called the mysterious woman emotionally aware and very patient. She's been very understanding and letting me take this all at my own pace because it's still just so far into me and so new. So she did a wide-ranging interview that I have not seen. But the highlight is that she has shared that she's bisexual
Starting point is 00:34:52 and she's dating a woman now. Parjie, that's great. That's really great. I feel like Layla from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, I don't know, I just feel like so unmoved by her. Do you know what I mean? Like this is, honestly, really big news. Like the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives has their first LGBTQ, like cast member.
Starting point is 00:35:15 It's big news. I don't know what. First. anyways like okay I don't know that's great like that's really great what's next you know like yeah yeah she just like hasn't really made an impact on the show in a meaningful way yet yeah I think a few of the girls actually know pretty much everyone Macy hasn't really like me like a huge impact but she shared a lot and she's like she has people love her people really like love her story I was just trying not to like single out Lila yeah yeah but she doesn't really like me like a huge impact but
Starting point is 00:35:51 She's like the only one who's also wasn't always a full-time cast member. She was like a friend of sort of vibe and she worked her way up. I don't know. I just. But maybe this is like part of the reason why it felt like she hasn't made an impact. She was like holding back. Yeah. And like not being her full self.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Yeah. So I'm, I'm happy for her. Don't you feel like Jay Shetty's like really like leveled up recently? Yeah. Do you see all of his like promotional materials where like if someone comes on they do like a slow-mo video and they sit down and it says j shetty it looks like vogue like do you see that thing oh i saw like the vogue looking thing yeah but i also feel like his guests have been like very
Starting point is 00:36:30 you know relevant swirley yeah which i like and i think he's like we need a swirly avenue like him where it's like serious conversations you know not just like tea or whatever yeah right you know i went on j shetty i know and i feel like that's like sort of inspired everyone else too Jackie, I think you need to go on. Would you ever? You don't open up like that. To have like an emotional combo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:59 No. You wouldn't. No. Unless if he wants like just talk for fun. Like but like to do you know that. Like honestly. Jay Shetty doesn't talk for fun. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:37:11 No. That's not my style. For me. I know. You know. I know. But, um, but it's good stuff and I appreciate what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:37:20 What he does. over there, yeah, absolutely. Creating, you know, a safe space for conversation. Absolutely. There's a couple goods, you know? Now we have, like, there's like a lot of good avenues. I feel like it's like now like Jay Shetty, call her daddy, Jake Shane. Pass the Puss.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. Yeah. Vile files, if you're like really reality TV. Very reality TV, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next store? Oh, so Mazel Tov to Leila. Oh, Mazeltoe to Leila, wishing you the best.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah. Looking forward. Oh, Taylor Frankie Paul arrested, question mark? Not arrested, like reported. Cops called on her by Dakota, so like take everything with a grain of salt, but like the fact that these two are still interacting. I know.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And just as she was like starting to emerge a little bit, they say her season might air this summer. I know that they have a child together. So like no communication is like not an option. Yeah. But this is annoying. Yeah, she posted on her Instagram briefly. She said, cops called on me again this week.
Starting point is 00:38:19 What are the odds? And it's not people. It's one person. It's the same person. It's obsessive. TMZ learned that it was Dakota. Obviously. Police child TMZ, they were contacted by Dakota on Friday,
Starting point is 00:38:29 who shared concerned about his protective order with Taylor regarding drop-off in custody of their kid. Officers contacted her to make sure they were all on the same page regarding the protective order and drop-off hours. We're told the matter is now in the hands of the district attorney's office. Yeah, I could see her having been like 10 minutes late and he called the cops, right? Yeah. Right. There's no new altercation. So it's just a really bad headline.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, next story. Kendall Jenner and Jacob Allorty fly under the radar at the airport in Australia after their getaway. So Kendall and Jacob were spotted trying to fly under the radar at Brisbane Airport in Australia over the weekend. I love flying to Brisbane. I like Brisbane.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I've never been, but I've heard it's beautiful. You've been to Brisbane? And Brisbane is beautiful this time of year. We should go. girls trip girls trip to brisborne um so they're just like wearing covid masks scarves hoods and hats to go through the airport they're still spotted um just yeah i mean they're giants both of them so they're going to be spotted i don't think celebrities like really can fly private to australia right like it's such a long flight you sort of have to fly commercial well you could stop and fuel up
Starting point is 00:39:44 yeah i guess that's his hometown so like we're meeting the parents we're doing the hometown towards that what that is right he's Australian no yeah he is beats me yeah okay cute I just want to reflect on Joey King for a moment if I may okay Joey oh Joey and I know she's like very happily married
Starting point is 00:40:09 and I genuinely like I like her and I wish her the best it's just really crazy to think about Jacob Allorty's arc both relationship wise career wise like where he started like he's dating Kendall Jenner Like that's insane. Like, and everybody knows him now as like that hot actor who dates Superman.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I was like, I know him as the brother from kissing booth who was dating his co-star, Joey King. Yeah. And that relationship ruined the franchise. Yeah. So what did you want to say?
Starting point is 00:40:37 I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to reflect. And I feel like I've reflected. You felt sufficiently reflected. When will my reflection show. I feel like Jacob Allure is a hard person to be in a relationship with because he's always like striving, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Like, walking really fast? No, no, no, striving. Oh, like. Oh, I said striding. Like, I would not be able to keep up with his pace.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Like climbing the ladder, you know, like Austin Butler tight. Absolutely. Yeah, Austin Butler, yeah. But so then I wonder what he's like in a relationship once he's reached the top. And I would say like Kendall Jenner, like so successful, so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Like hopefully he's more relaxed. Hopefully he can just like enjoy, you know. Yeah, I would love to see like a campaign with these two. Like a high-end fashion campaign. Like her in Bad Bunny for Gucci. Yeah. Yeah. I would just like to see that.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Yeah. And I just want to say, I feel like he's not a good boyfriend, just based on vibes. Interesting. You ever see that video where, like, he took Olivia Jade to the Tribeca Film Festival and walked the right car, but she was waiting for him at the end,
Starting point is 00:41:35 and he, like, literally walked right past her because he forgot she was there and, like, walked up the stairs. Yeah. I don't know, it's just a bot. Just a feeling that I have. Yeah. And, like, I just don't like all this.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Like, why do you have, like, we know it's you. What's with the mask and the scarf and the hat? And, like, just stop. Like, there's a horde of paparazzi follow. You like the jig is up. Right. Like just smile. What if you just smiled?
Starting point is 00:41:58 You're beautiful. You're in love. Just stop being so serious. Like if you strap me up to a heart ray monitor and like showed me photos of these two, like it does nothing for me. Yeah. Like you're saying these two people haven't dated already twice. Like it just doesn't feel new.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It doesn't feel fresh. Like I liked what he dated Olivia Jane, especially now. But when they started dating, she was like fresh off the heels of her scandal. So like it was kind of this crazy, risky, fun thing for her to do. Like this is so. uninspiring to me. You reminds we have Kim and Louie. No, but I'm here for them. I'm here for them dating now like I am and so I don't care. I just like I wish I would just like stop being so like serious like you're walking through the airport. It's not like it's not a crazy high-stakes
Starting point is 00:42:36 situation just like give us a wave you know. Everybody loves you. Oh, not me. No, I think they're cute. I think they're cute. Are you talking this Callum Turner thing? Who's that? Duelipa just got married and everyone was like obsessed with the wedding. Very like a Euro summer Italian like cigarettes. But do you know who he? So they have like this very famous meat cute.
Starting point is 00:43:04 They were like in a restaurant or something reading the same book. And he looks at her and whatever and he's like, I guess now we're on the same page. Whatever. Like the whole theme of like the welcome party was books. It's like library on the same page. And Stasi Baby hosts a podcast with Victoria Kylie's old assistant.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Victoria goes on the podcast. So I was talking about her ex-boyfriend who never wanted to be seen in public with her, like didn't want to be famous, like was so mean hiding her. It's Callum Turner. And she actually says that Dua Lipa and Callum Turner met
Starting point is 00:43:33 when he was on a date with Victoria at a restaurant. She got up to go to the bathroom. So like their whole like meat cute book page is like a little not true. Yeah. Well, it's true. It's just half the truth.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Correct. Well, damn. But they got married, so sorry, sister. So it's over, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They made it right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Our fifth and final story, which will lead into our Love Island recap. Which is brought to you by Headsville Roll. Comedy royalty, Kate McKinnon, returns as Queen Mortuana and Headswell Roll era parent. The highly anticipated sequel to Audible's fan favorite original comedy series. She's flanked once more by co-star Emily Lynn. and a new star-studded ensemble, including Richard Kind, Lori Metcalfe, Jimmy Fallon, Megan Malalley, Sam Richardson and Carrie Coon,
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Starting point is 00:46:16 July 15th only on Prime Video. Thank you, Tert, video. You're welcome. Okay, our fifth and final story leading into our TV recap, Love Island, USA's Tierra Davis, allegedly threatened to shoot a girl years before entering the villa. And one thing about me is like, I will not tolerate any TT slander. I love her. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:46:34 This is like very inconvenient. I need more context before. So here, here, here you go. Tierra Davis allegedly beat up a girl years before entering Love Island USA over jealousy involving her ex-boyfriend. This, according to the girl who ran to court to get protection. TMZ obtained the 2018 restraining order filed against Tierra by a woman named Shela Woodard. According to the court docs, 16-year-old Shela claimed 17-year-old Tierra threatened to shoot... Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Threatened to shoot her with a gun after physically assaulting her. She said she knew Tierra from a friend of a former classmate. Shela said she did not know Tierra personally but believed Tierra was upset because she knew her boyfriend. Shayla said she called the police on Teara, but she kept harassing her. She asked for a restraining order, requiring Tierra to stop contacting her
Starting point is 00:47:18 and stay away from her and her family. A temporary restraining order was granted, but the case was later dismissed in December. This is just like inconvenient because Love Island, like, you know, they do. I think Parmita also has some social media posts that have come out. Yes, she does. Well, the thing is Love Island takes action against,
Starting point is 00:47:35 like, social media posts. That's like what they've taken action against. I actually think that something like this, And I do think something like this comes up in a background check. Yeah, absolutely. So like this is something that they, you know, the thing about the Love Island social media post, people are like, how did they not find them?
Starting point is 00:47:50 A lot of them are like private messages or like Snapchat disappearing stories that they could never have seen, but someone from their personal life has held on to for six years. And so they could have never found that. This is different because this they would have found in a routine background check. Absolutely. And they chose to overlook it, I guess. Well, I feel like that is the type of, obviously not gun slinging,
Starting point is 00:48:10 But like, this is the type of energy you want for love violence, somebody who will, like, fight physically for their man. Yeah, like, you're right. They definitely knew this. And hopefully it doesn't take her off the show because I feel like she's integral. No, and there's not, like, a history of them letting go of anyone for, like, past actions or anything. It's just like for anything other than social media posts. And so I think Parmita, I'm expecting her days are numbered. I don't know why she wouldn't get booted like everyone else.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Right. She also had a slip of the N word. She did in a DM, like in a text. Obviously, it's all bad, but, like, singing it in a song is different than, like, using it colloquially. I argue that the second is worse. Yeah, I would say so. Not that, you know, it matters, but I would be shocked if Permita doesn't go.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And at this point, like, every, everyone needs to go. You did it? Gone. Alana, while they kicked her out, like, she was sort of necessary. It was, like, a big deal to remove her because it sort of removed any. wrongdoing on Zach and Casa Moore. Like, Parmita being kicked out, like seriously changes nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Well, no, then Corbyn's single again. He's going to be fucking heartbroken. He, they, I've actually never met two people who are more right for each other. I actually, so while I think he's like really awful in what he did to Kenzie, I kind of really like them together. They're a happy, loving couple. And it's fun to watch two people just get a long clothes off early, know what they want. Yes, that's true.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Bada boom. Yeah. I find Kenzie increasingly more difficult to feel bad for. After last night. I've actually, I have moved on from the Corbyn thing. No, the thing is the way that Corbyn went into Casa, like not giving Kenzie a second thought, as if he's just like single now.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Like a high schooler. When they went through something, they were really liking each other. And he could move on with Parmita. I could care less. But just like the fact that night won, it was as if he had like nobody waiting for him. That was kind of gross.
Starting point is 00:50:05 But Kenzie, and so separate from that, what Kenzie did last night in kissing gall, I'm sorry, I'm actually done with her. I'm done with her too. I think is the eighth guy that she's exploring. And she keeps saying like, I'm here. I want to find love. I want to find love.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And so I want to like see it with everyone who I feel spark with. But like part of like finding love and like loving someone is respecting relationships that you're already having. Is ignoring any other spark that you might have with someone because you're like locked in on this. And I think her and Dylan are so cute. I think he's such a good guy. I think he likes her so much. And he's like, there's no problem there.
Starting point is 00:50:39 He's normal. He makes her laugh. He can hold a conversation. Absolutely. He's a cutie. She likes him. And so the fact, and when Jen said it a few days ago, she was like, if Kensi likes Dylan so much, they're so good.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like, why does she even feel the need to like see if there's something there with Gall? Which is true. And it's not like she hasn't explored this whole time. Yeah, you don't want to come in and the first person you like. She had Sean. She had Zach. She had Gabe. She had Caleb.
Starting point is 00:51:05 She had Corbin. She has Dylan. She has Gall. And, you know, what all of the girls you could tell, because when we talk about the core four, like, they're obviously a click. It's Kada, Melanie, Trinity, and Anaya. They don't include Kenzie in that.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And you know what? I think maybe they like sniffed her out because she's a bad fucking friend to Jen who's like, Jen has nothing going on in this villa. Like you can't just not kiss one guy. Yeah. And I'm sorry, Jen like was so right. She's like, Kenzie just like wants multiple guys chasing her. Like she thinks she's like in a movie.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah. And like we watched that movie already. Caleb and Corby. And like now you met someone who's really great for you. Like now the move is to settle down. If you came in and the first person you're talking to you get sort of like caught up with them
Starting point is 00:51:47 and you're like, wait, I want to explore before I settle down. I would understand that. But you've spoken to- That's not what happened. You've spoken to eight people here. If you even want to, I don't even think you should be talking to all
Starting point is 00:51:55 because you and Dylan are good. Like what more are you looking for? But if you want to talk to him to see something, like the fact that they kissed and you could tell he, she was looking at him like, are you going to kiss me? She even though like he leaned in, she like gave him the look.
Starting point is 00:52:08 and I just, if you need to talk to him, do it without kissing. It's so disrespectful. And I hope Dylan leaves her. And right on the heels of like him being so rude to Jen. That conversation was so painful. He just sort of like, he has not liked Jen since the beginning. And it's bothered me that she couldn't see that.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Because she should not have chosen him. She should have chosen Ronnie. Like literally she always says like, I'm used to being with guys who are obsessed with me. Gaul has never made it seem like he's obsessed to do. Ronnie was. They were friends and it was cute, but like was he just going to try, use her to like get on the villa? And did he actually like her?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like he liked her as a friend and I want to be in the villa. But she knew Gall was like not 100%. And so like that conversation was actually infuriating. He picked a fight just to be like, you know what? I feel like actually this is going to work out. It was like she was, when he was like you're being really aggressive. She like nobody in the world has actually ever been less aggressive than Jen in that moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And also it's like, okay, so now you're kissing Kenzie. She's tickling your hand. I'm seeing like plenty of touchiness. So are you not a touchy guy? or it's just with Jen. The thing is if you watch, I don't think he really ever liked Jen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And I think it was kind of obvious. And that's what I mean when I say like it was frustrating that she couldn't see that. Yeah, but I think also like knowing that maybe he had a chance with Kenzie, it was like, well, you know what? I'd rather end things with you. Explore them with Kenzie as opposed to like blooming where I'm planted here with Jen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 So at first I was like, you know what? I can like when he was the first conversation that they had where he was like, that's just like not how I move. That's not my like language, whatever. I was like, okay. you know what, not everyone has to be like spreading their legs on television. Yeah, agreed. But then after the last conversation, I was like, oh, you're so like full of shit.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And you're also trying to make it seem like she did something wrong. When like, just say directly, I don't like you like that and I'm not feeling it. And not like she's being aggressive in this conversation went sideways so we can't be together. It was so, it was so clear what he was doing. I do not like him at all. Yeah, Kenzie, like at what point? Are we like just like being a slut? Like yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:10 When I saw that kiss I was like horrid. Slutty. Yeah like slutty like and also like because that's your friend. And Jen has, I think Jen has actually become more friendly with everyone. Kenzie's like sort of on an island of her own. Jen is her only friend. I don't think the girls like her and now I'm starting to understand why. She can't have female friendship.
Starting point is 00:54:27 She's too busy exploring all the time. Yeah. So she was like just with Jen. Yeah. And like you literally sold out your only friend in this house. And yeah. No one here is like scrupled at all. Like, yeah, because Dylan should say fuck you and be done.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And like, go with Jen. Go with literally anyone. Nobody does that. Like, Melanie should say fuck you to sincere. Like nobody does what they should do. It's so frustrating. And that's why I just want to say, I know he's the devil. He's the villain of this show.
Starting point is 00:54:53 But I do like the fact that Casey went to Casa Amor. We knew he didn't like Anaya. Anaya knew he didn't like Anaya. He smet someone and he brought her back. Like, at least he's. his actions match up with his words. Yeah, by the way, Casey, I don't find him to be the devil.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I don't find him to be the villain of the show. I think Casey has done nothing wrong. No, he's done something's wrong. And he's definitely immature. He does not, like, he did not let Anaya down in the most respectful way that he possibly could have. And I think that like... Casey, I'm sorry, it's literally Taylor and Clark and Elandri again.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And again, like, Taylor, Casey, they left on kind of shitty terms when he went to Casa. The last few days of there, relationship had not been fun. They weren't really like jiving. He met someone who he liked so much and he brought her back and like was ready to come and talk and whatever. And then all the girls are, what is he supposed to do other than stand there while they're
Starting point is 00:55:49 all screaming at him? Start defending himself and say, I like her so much and I don't like you. No, you just stand there and you take it. And then when things calm down, we can have a conversation. And I feel like all the hate. It's just sad that he did not like Anaya as much as she likes him. It's unfortunate. And it's like, I'll beat around the bush and try and make it seem like, you know, I have a stronger connection with her.
Starting point is 00:56:11 But like, at the end of the day, it's hard to hear no matter how well it's said. I just don't like you enough to stay in a relationship with you. And like that's not a crime. I feel like, and everyone's like it's not you being with her. It's the way you went about it. Way you went about, I guess he was a little too excited to be in Casa, okay? Yeah, I mean, there's no good way to go about it, honestly. But I feel like so much of the hate that's being sent Casey's way, like really should be reserved for sincere.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Because he is hands down, without a doubt, like the worst guy in this villa. And I am at the point where I'm starting to not feel bad for Melanie anymore. Like how many times, even she was like stirred with him in their conversation and then a confessional. She's like, well, let's see if he can change. Like I feel like we know he actually can't. So it's like continuing to give him chances. Like now I feel like, and this is what it's like, yes, all the guys are bad. Apps, they're all bad.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Like, there's not a good guy. And the only good one, no one will talk to, Caleb. Like, they're bad guys. but at what point is the personal accountability on the women to stop being dumb. Yeah. No, Melanie. Melanie's making me really sad.
Starting point is 00:57:11 She's a completely different person from who she walked in as. I feel like she's been so beaten down. Every time they zoom in on her face, like honestly, she looks nauseous. She looks like she's turning green because when Amora came out of the cake and like the blood drains from her face.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Like she has actually lost herself in the villa. And it's like, I didn't love her personality day one, but at least she was like bursting with life, confidence. Energy, yeah. everything. And now she's just like a shell of herself. It makes me so sad. And it's like, yeah, sincere came back and chose you, but not after having an actual girlfriend in Casa Amor. I would rather be Anaya who didn't get chosen than Melanie, who got chosen and is being lied to. Like at least it's final. Like that's what I mean about Casey. Maybe to go about it in the right way,
Starting point is 00:57:56 but he has been up front. Yeah. Sincere had this whole secret relationship and we wouldn't have even known about it if the girl didn't come back. So funny tweet that was like, sincere's the type to have two separate families. Yes. And love both of them. Yeah. He is a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He's insufferable too. Just like he really thinks he's so righteous. And then every time he says sorry, he's like, you know, I got to do better. Like, shut up. Like, just shut up. Just shut up. Bryce and Trinity closed off.
Starting point is 00:58:23 It's like just, if you want to be bad, go be bad. And walk the walk and talk to talk and just be a piece of shit like you are. But stop. We also have to listen to you. We also have to listen to you. think that you're like righteous or something. Yeah. And Melanie like cannot see it. I know. I actually
Starting point is 00:58:39 really wanted it to be Corey because I feel like. Of course. I feel like they had something good going. I mean, we didn't even talk about the fact that Anaya didn't choose Carl. Like the biggest L. That's what I mean. Like everyone's sending back Carl. Like literally why. Yeah. And if I'm Carl, I'm mad. Yeah. No, me too. They want or like to see her have like a happy story. And I guess the other. girls like held out some point no but like the other girls held at hope for like they were hoping for you know and wishing on a relationship that was like more real like Zach and Cato like were so like good before they left Melanie and sincere or Melanie insincere like he she knows that's the thing she knows that even though he is like toxic and whatever like he's coming back to her that's the
Starting point is 00:59:24 thing is that I think Anaya sat there and saw everyone come back Bryce Zach sincere So her going last, I think maybe she was on the fence, but like, oh, she's, oh, they obviously all sat around at Casa Moore and talked about how much they missed us. Like, I think she thought emboldened by everyone else's choices. Yeah, and I think the fact that it happened for everyone else and didn't happen for her. Made it even more embarrassing. But I think also it's a little immature on her part to think that like this is a group exercise where it's like, no, we're judging each individual relationship. It's not like the guys and the girls and the girls all do it. Like, no, are you and Casey good?
Starting point is 00:59:59 You're not. Yeah. So Parmita and Corbyn being the first couple to close off Like didn't see that in my bingo card but Slay And then we got Zach and Brinidad The winning couple The winning couple Like seriously we can end the season
Starting point is 01:00:14 We really can They're both so great individually, so great together They're so healthy and like evolved And you know they really grew something They watered their plant And I think their story has been really beautiful I really don't know why Zach and Keda can't get it together Like what
Starting point is 01:00:30 Like Zach is... I've been telling you, he is like not what he sees. He is very red flag. Why haven't they closed off? They went to the hideaway. I know. And he was like,
Starting point is 01:00:38 we're not boyfriend and girlfriend yet. And he keeps saying it. He keeps like dangling it. Saying I love you and then saying it was a joke. That's like the worst kind of guy. I'm telling you, he is not, I know you like him because his brother is Charlie.
Starting point is 01:00:50 But he is bad. I can separate him from Charlie. And people on Twitter will be like, Zach, you know, Zach definitely got a phone and Wi-Fi. He's getting special treatment being like a nepo sibling. Like, what do you mean? Charlie was on the show for one week. They don't give,
Starting point is 01:01:02 production doesn't give a fuck about Charlie. Enough. He had no impact. Enough to, like, give Zach preferential treatment. Agreed. No, no, no. He's not being protected or anything. Because I feel like if you watch with a,
Starting point is 01:01:15 he's just like less obvious. Like, sinister is like, sorry. Sinister. There's a girl on TikTok. She does love story, love story. She does Love Island Recaps every day. And she's so funny. And she just calls him sinister.
Starting point is 01:01:29 So like I still like I is like Sincere is so obvious in his like It's actually insane to have your name be sincere And then act that way Yeah I think it's definitely a lot of pressure To have a name like that and I understand that But you don't have to go to complete opposite opposite You don't have to be insincere
Starting point is 01:01:51 He is such a bad guy He is such a bad guy We should call him insincere I hate him Yeah so Zach is he has really like huge red flags. He's just better at hiding them. Also like Kada and Zach are like using Che as like a pawn to like work each other up.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Like yeah, oh, he was a big boy. Like like they just used all these people. They're 13. They're 13 years old. And no, it's so toxic. They use people, all of them as like a way to just like make each other jealous and further their relationship. It's really gross. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Corbyn and Parmuda are my winners. if she says. Right. But like I don't, I feel like for some reason like they're not going to send her home. But so is it over? Like is the sending home over then?
Starting point is 01:02:38 No, no. But I don't know why. Because like Parmita is like so irrelevant. Like I don't know. I don't know. And at what point is that going to tell Kada that Alana was sent home? Well,
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm hoping that Amora or Titi will. But also tonight's movie night. Tonight's movie night. But the thing is I feel like production won't make it a thing because like it breaks the fore. They can't say that she was sent home for X, Y, and Z. Like, they sort of need to ignore it.
Starting point is 01:03:01 No, but, like, she needs to know because he's also saying, I could have brought her back. He said that. No, you couldn't. That's a fucking crazy thing to say. No, you couldn't have? That's a lie. Unless production was like, are you going to bring this girl back?
Starting point is 01:03:11 And he said no, and they're like, oh, hey, we're sending her home, like, cutting their losses. Agreed. I agree with that. Yeah. I agree with that. Okay, so we'll give him the benefit of doubt, even though he so fucking doesn't deserve it. So undeserving. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment
Starting point is 01:03:27 where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to get back to our community and help out girls in need. Write to us, Deer Toasters at gm.com, or head over to our website, the Toastpodcast.com. Scroll down there's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. We actually have an update today. Another little brief one, a nice little happy ending.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Ready? Hey, Jackson, turned. The place looks great. It always does. Thanks, Queen. I need that. Last summer, I wrote in asking for advice about whether or not I was being ungrateful
Starting point is 01:03:48 and disappointed that my husband got me an umbrella and a meat thermometer for my 29th birthday. Do you remember? Yeah. So our advice, this year for her 30th birthday, she just gave him a list of things she wanted, a list of ideas. And he just surprised her with a diamond necklace.
Starting point is 01:04:02 That's the power of the toast. Love you, girls. I love that. It's beautiful. And that's on speaking into existence the things that you want. That's not being direct. Like, nobody's a mind reader. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 If you want something, just ask for it. Doesn't mean you're going to get it. But you have better chance. Also, thank you for updating us because we just spread ourselves so thin, helping people out. and we never hear back from them. So love you. Happy that worked out for you.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Hey, Swirleys. I'm looking for some sisterly advice as I do not have any sisters. My sister-in-law, so my husband's brother's wife, is a new hairstylist, and she offered to come do my hair for free as I have a newborn at home,
Starting point is 01:04:36 and I obviously can't take a trip to the salon. She did a full head of blonde highlights, and I thought that it would be fine because I already have blonde hair and I would just need like a touch-up, and I was so wrong. My hair looks absolutely horrible, but my sister-in-law is so sensitive.
Starting point is 01:04:47 I know she would be devastated if I told her I didn't like it or if I went to someone else to get it. I look truly awful, but I have no idea on how to fix it without hurting her feelings. What do I do? Sincerely a new mama feeling worse in her skin. Go fix it. Well, it depends.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Like, you're home with the baby. So, like, doesn't matter at this current moment. Whenever you're, like, emerging, go and fix it. Like, I'm sorry, you don't have to have ugly hair to protect someone's feelings. Yeah, it's actually really, like, lovely of you to be, the number one priority here is your sister-in-law's feelings. Like, I just want to say, great hairstylists are made from these moments. So you're actually helping her. And the fact that you would, like, knowingly walk around ugly just to save her feelings.
Starting point is 01:05:19 You sound like an amazing person, but you also says, get your hair fucking fix. That's a number one priority. New mama feeling good. Yeah, and just be like, you know what? At this stage of my life, I want to be actually a little darker than you can make some shit up.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Oh, please. No, I think that we should be able. Like, if you're a new hair stylist. Say it was bad. The thing is, is that first of all, you don't have to say anything. Maybe she just get the hint. You would never.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I would never walk around with ugly hair. No, but you would fix it, but you would never say that person. Like, you did a bad job. I didn't like it. I wouldn't say it like that. First of all, I would get a fix and hope she didn't notice.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Or if she noticed she wouldn't say. Hopefully she doesn't notice. And if she does notice, hopefully she doesn't say anything. And then she can just sort of like take the hint like it was bad. I'm sorry, what about this woman's future clients? Like, you have to help her. Get your hair fix. We'll figure out the issue later.
Starting point is 01:06:03 We will figure out how to handle it later. Someone else can help her. It doesn't have to be someone who has up Thanksgiving with her every year for the rest of your life. Someone else can tell her she did a bad job. Get your hair fix. And we'll figure everything else out later. I hate the idea that you're walking around with hair you hate. It's hard enough like to look in the mirror when you're post part.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I know, but like her hair is probably like up in a bun. Like it's okay, it's okay. It's not. Get your hair fixed. No, get it fixed. But like it's okay. It's okay. But it's like a lot of hair issues today.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Ready? Hey, queens. I found myself in a hairy situation. My mother-in-law has good intentions and she really loves my kids very dearly. Last week when she was in town, she took my daughter to do some errands. When she gets back, my daughter said, close your eyes, Mama, I have a surprise for you. When I opened my eyes, I saw a fucking bob with bangs on my four-year-old daughter. She's never had her haircut.
Starting point is 01:06:46 This can't be real. had long, gorgeous blonde hair. This can't be real. This is when they say deer toasters are made up. I acted excited in the moment because she's beautiful no matter what, no matter how she looks. However, what the actual fuck. I texted my husband in a spiral. He says he'll take care of it.
Starting point is 01:07:01 When the kids are in bed, he brings it up and said she was taking something off my plate because I'm a working mom with two young kids. And apparently at one point, I said I needed to trim my daughter's hair as she's in two weddings and the flower girl for the summer. She immediately started crying saying she thought I would like it. And my daughter said she wanted bangs. Yes, the four-year-old gets to choose how she. looks. I just need to know how Turney and
Starting point is 01:07:20 Jacks would have responded. I know it's just terror and maybe I'm being stupid but thanks. Love you ladies. I'm sorry. You said the daughter needed a trim. The daughter comes back with a slick back bob and bangs. This woman is not your friend. And I'm sorry, crying down, crying being like she needed a trim. You didn't get her
Starting point is 01:07:36 a fucking trim. I would light her up. The daughter said I wanted bangs. How stupid are you? I would light her up and I would say you can see her again when her hair grows back out. Oh. That's what I would say. I would say you could take her again for the day when hair grows back out. That's when you're not, you're underreacting. That's when that privilege is resumed. You are
Starting point is 01:07:54 underreacting. Oh, I would go crazy. This can't be real. Yeah, you need to not let this go. Yeah, no, I would be raging. And I just want to say, your daughter probably looks so cute. Like, bags are cute. Don't worry about that. And hair grows out, but like, raging. Especially kids hair grows so fast. Raging. Yeah. But this woman needs to be
Starting point is 01:08:18 She'll take her to get a tattoo next. It's true. Can't be trusted. Naval piercing. Can't be trusted. Alone with the child. You need to like seriously make this into such a big deal. Because like these are the types of things when people think they can get away with them.
Starting point is 01:08:33 They build and next thing you know, Jackie's right. We're getting tram stamps next summer. Yeah. So you can take her out again alone when her hair grows back and in that time think about what you did. Yeah. She needs a stern talking to. A couple years before you get that privilege again. And then our third and final
Starting point is 01:08:50 year toast is a little bit of a marital matril spat, matter of issue. Hey, Swarles, my husband and I are high school sweethearts. In college, we were long distance, so we did our fair share of sexting. Fast forward to 10 years later, we're married with young kids, my husband still at least once a week wants to be in separate rooms and sex like we did in college.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Once the kids are asleep. I seriously hate it so much. Once a week is a lot for like that. I agree. And half the time, I can't stay awake because I fall asleep while putting the kids to bed. I've tried to talk to him about it. Is this something I just need to give it to because it's something that means a lot to him? I literally would rather have sex with him every single night. I just hate the whole separate sexting thing.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Am I crazy? Once a week is a lot. That just, you know, it sneaks up on you, you know? All of a sudden, it's always Wednesday. No, literally, once a week eventually starts to feel like every day. Yeah, the weeks fly by. And I want to say, well, the novelty of this, like at its core is really cute. Once you start doing it so much, like it's not.
Starting point is 01:09:46 not cute anymore because like it was supposed to be this like special thing. So I wouldn't and like, I don't know. At its, at its core, it's also weird. So you know what? Like, I mean, you could deal with the issue at hand. Or you could set up like an AI chat bot that responds to him. You can fall asleep. AI like, you know, respond.
Starting point is 01:10:08 upload some previous messages so AI knows like how you particularly set. But I think he would also enjoy like a little bit of flair, you know. A little bit of difference. And just let it run. And I know this is probably the difference between men and women. But like how can you like, like it's fake. She's in the other room. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Like it's like role play. The long distance, the pining. Yeah, but you're role playing being apart when you're together. Like that's insane. No, I'm sorry. That's a lot. It's a lot. Like, and we have a lot going on as women and mothers.
Starting point is 01:10:45 and like now we're also pen pals. And like the electricity bill, like it's just, no. Listen, run, no. Run clawed in the background. Yeah. But also they should just be like, if this is his particular thing, that's fine. Weddings, anniversaries, birthdays, like, every week is insane. Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Like, every week is not a special treat. And it's like how many times? can you sexed? Like how many different things can you say? Well, I think that's why you got to get AI in there. Right. Spice it up. Then he's going to want it every night.
Starting point is 01:11:25 He's going to want it every night. He's going to be like, you're so good at it. Right. And then think of the environmental impacts. Think of the polar bears. They'll understand. You're a woman doing what a woman has to do. It's what the polar bears would have wanted.
Starting point is 01:11:41 So what? Their home melted. This guy got a sexed. I got a sex. He got his. rocks off. And the polar bear doesn't have any more rocks. That's beautiful.
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