The Toast - Good Guys and Gals with Josh Peck: Monday, April 15th, 2024

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday. It's an exciting week. It's not an ordinary Monday because I have a very special guest co-host with me today. I had planned to do a week of guest co-hosts and even though Turdy's trip has been canceled,

which we'll get into, I'm going forth with guest co-hosts because I just wanted to chit-chat with everyone I've got coming through. So first up this week, I have Josh Peck, one of the good guys, my arch nemesis, my nemesis, Josh and Ben. Hi, Josh. Hi, good morning. Constantly sabotaging you as best we can. Did you lose literally 45 minutes of an episode because of my co-host mishap with your AV equipment? We did lose that much of an episode because he was co-host's mishap with your AV equipment? We did lose that much

of an episode because he was recording with you in my studio. And so he put down the second microphone so he wouldn't like pick up background audio. And then he never put it back up. So we started recording and only one of our mics was on. But I have to say now I'm thinking about all the good guys chose drama. It's really not you. That's true. Finally, I'm not part of some drama. Finally. Yeah. You're not the drama. It's really Ben. So when we talk about the beef, we're really just talking about Ben. Benjamin is so charmingly. What, how do we, how can we say he's innocent? He's an innocent boy in the best way. I couldn't imagine him hurting to fly. It's not malintended.

And we know that, but it doesn't make it better when these things happen. Like we know he didn't set out to sabotage our show, but still our show was sabotaged. So what do you do? He is so because he is a New York kid like all of us. And so he's so savvy in many ways. because he is a New York kid like all of us. And so he's so savvy in many ways. And then we'll get into conversations about like how to put windshield washer fluid into a car.

And it's like, I'm speaking another language. This is so funny. I feel like this is going to be like just a Ben slander podcast. We actually should have Claudia here and we can all get together and talk about Ben and the things that he does that get on our nerves. He's so pure. Like we end every conversation with, okay, bye, love you. And for two men to throw out love like that, it's gorgeous. That's really beautiful. I end all my

conversations like that too. Love ya, bye. But I guess it sounds different when two men are talking. It does. And you know, for Ben and I to feel like we just, we're very open to being vulnerable. He's called me after, I feel like I am, I'm letting out his secrets, but they're such adorable secrets that I'm going to, I'm going to allow myself. He'll call me after a good pot and go, I really needed that laugh. I really needed that hour to get away. Thanks. And I'm like, you are too good for this world. That's really too sweet for this world. But I know the feeling. I feel like Claudia and I feel it all the time. And I always say like, weirdly, the toast is the calmest hour of my day because it's like the one

hour I'm just sitting in the chair talking with my girly. And when you're doing a podcast with someone that you love and that you have so much fun with, like it really is restorative to your mental health. And I feel like you guys have the same experience because your show is so funny, too. I love it. I would say the easiest part is the hour. The more challenging part is the legwork of the clips or posting or scheduling, right? Yes, I totally agree. We were just doing

an interview. Yeah, we do press. And we were saying, I was saying how in the hour that is us like being our true selves. And it's like the rest of the day where we're like business people really thinking about our next move. But in that hour, we're just like being ourselves chit chatting. And it's the most relaxing part of the job most of the time especially when you have kids it's like wait I get to have adult conversation for an hour like flex my funny muscle like make good jokes it's really a nice escape of the of the four ashram sisters growing up you're all funny you're all incredibly smart Could you have thought that it was always going to be you and Claudia with the podcast? That's such a great question. And I don't think I would have thought it would be me and Claudia only because weirdly we're all really close, but Claudia and I growing

up at a certain age, we were the least close of the sisters. I think because we're so different and growing up up like we kind of didn't understand each other but now those differences complement each other because we each like bring something so unique to the table but growing up like there were pockets where I was really close with Olivia because we're the oldest and we're really close in age and Claudia and Margo are the youngest so they were really close but then also Claudia and Olivia had a lot of the same interest so they would like watch the same TV shows and they would really get along. And me and Margo were always really close and had the same interests.

And it was always like Claudia and I that for a moment there were the least close. So no, for that reason, I would never have thought it. Yeah, it's amazing. And it's also a testament to that you guys have been doing it a while. That you guys will get on a run. And it seems like it's like watching the great, I don't know, Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. I know the toasters all know that reference, but it's like watching the great teams of our days, like just get together and you really know how to pick up where the other leaves off. Yeah, I always say it's like a dance.

And it's like, I know her next step and she knows mine. And it definitely, we're now just celebrated six year Toastiversary. Sorry, I'll stop boring you with Toastiversary content. But it's definitely at this point, you know, the silent, like I know when she's coming in, when she's coming to cut me off and she knows when I'm kind of like done

with whatever I'm saying and I don't know how to end the sentence. So it really is nice. But I feel that way about you and Ben too. Because I listen to the GGs sometimes not to out myself. And I feel like with you guys, it's like, you know, when you get onto a subject, because conversation like just flows, but then you'll like hit something. And you're like, oh, we're going in on this.

It's amazing. Oh, it's the best. We have this whole run about weddings that turned into like a 25 minute bitch fest we were assassinating weddings coming soon uh to wherever you listen to podcasts but yeah you know i think my biggest fear and i don't know if ben had it but initially was like are we two alike and when we were starting the pod, because, you know, not having differentiating points of view can sometimes lead to not the most interesting conversation. And it turned out that we are so alike that it worked, that we we both bitch and have

grievances about the same things. But we come from very different worlds. So somehow it worked. Yeah, because you're so alike, but having come from different worlds that like you have different experiences, I feel like you bring such different things to the table. That's how I feel about Claudia and I, like from the outside view, we're the same person. Like we say the same things, we like the same things, but when you're really in it, like we're actually very different, but it takes years of hours of conversations for people to be able to recognize that.

different but it takes years of hours of conversations for people to be able to recognize that totally I think that you know and I'm glad that Ben and like old Jewish men is in is in vogue you know what I mean yes we are benefiting yeah you guys really I feel like you guys get the best guests but I don't feel like you really do. And that's definitely, we definitely have a chip on our shoulder about that. You know, not jealous or anything. What are some, they're the gimme's of the toast world, the Taylor Swift's, the dream guests. Who's like a dream guest person, which in the next year you could say, we could get them.

So we have a list of dream guests. My dream guest has always been Kelly Clarkson. I love her. And now she does TV and hosting and she's done podcasts. So it's not that crazy. But we talk a big game about how we're jealous of guests, but we really don't seek out guests. So if we really wanted someone and we like really campaigned

and we like got their PR, you know what? If we really, really tried, I think we could get certain people. But we don't really, really try is the thing. We just like to complain, honestly. I have transferred my approach to dating to getting guests. And this is this used to be my rule when I was out there gallivanting around Hollywood being a real cliche. If I met someone and we exchanged phone numbers and we had a bit of a texting thing and I

said, hey, would you like to get a coffee, go to a movie, whatever. If I didn't get a response, I would write them back one more time just for the mere chance that maybe there was some technological issue. If I didn't hear from them again, their number was deleted. It was over. I didn't want to run the risk of in a fit of sad loneliness that I reached out one day at like nine o'clock at night being like, what happened? I felt like we really connected. So that's my rule. That's why why I like I don't even want the temptation to do that so I I approach I I've applied that to guests I will try once I'll try twice but you

you're not getting a third time from me oh interesting it's not like converting to Judaism you have to try three times let them know you're really serious before they'll open their doors yeah and I know I mean I just feel like the, you know, the rim of the universe is long, but it tends to bend towards justice. So if it's going to come back around, it's on them. It's on them now. I feel that. So who's your dream guest for good guys?

If Ben, I think, was asked, it would be Jack Black. He loves Jack Black. Ben, I think, was asked, it would be Jack Black. He loves Jack Black. I mean, for me, my dream guest in anything I do is just Oprah because it has such a Drake and Josh connection that I feel like we'd break the internet. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Yeah, that would be so good. And she would be an amazing guest and she would break the internet anyway because people want to hear what Oprah has to say. That's why a great dream guest would be like whoever the most popular person on the planet is because then everyone's tuning in well she's such a luminary she's so impressive and the meme ability of her and i together beyond she's on ozempic we could do two hours just on that i mean there's so much in common. Okay. Dream big.

Never say never. Yeah. God willing. God willing. And who's someone who you've reached out to twice that failed the test? You know, I won't say who, but like people that I know, people in like people in my life, people that I know that I know that, you know, you just like you kind of like give them a text and you feel like, oh, this should this should be an easier lift than it's become. And people get busy. And but I just don't want to bother someone more than once. And yeah, it's not in a world of everyone having a podcast.

I mean, thank you for having me. This is one of the rare massive podcasts. It's a gift for anyone to be on. But like, it's a lot, you know, like I understand people get asked all the time. Yeah, but I feel like when you're asking a fellow podcaster, it's a lower lift than like you asking someone who doesn't podcast. They might just get a little overwhelmed by the idea. Like, how do you even do a podcast? Whereas like people who do this all the time are like, oh yeah,

I'll go chat there and I'll chat here. And it's easier to get them in the chair. Plus it's good for their podcast too, to go on the formidable good guys. I, uh, people, I feel like I'm going to start conspiracy theories. So I'll give an even better hint it's a comedian they're coming these comedians they are impossible because they're so in the um they're so in demand i mean i've had a and he's a buddy and he's canceled on me twice the day of and i'm like yikes diva behavior and he's a real sweetheart again i know he's crushing it he's still he's crushing it but. You'll never work in this town again. I know he's crushing it. He's crushing it. But I just was like, bro, I won't. If you want to come on, you let me know. I can't ask you anymore.

That is so fair. And does it affect your personal relationships when people like don't come on or kind of punt the ball down the field? Well, how are you? Because I love a good grudge. Oh, do I love nursing a grudge? I'm so funny because I feel like I'm so extreme. Like either I genuinely forget that something happened that I should be mad at that person, or I will never forget until the day that I die,

you could do a million good deeds towards me and I'll never forget this one thing. And I don't know what the difference is, why some people like I just kind of let it brush off my shoulder. It's hard. I, yeah. You know, they say the thing about a grudge is it's like you drinking the poison and wanting the other person to die.

But sometimes that poison goes down smooth. Sometimes it tastes like I hate a raid, like just ginger ale going, going down the throat. And I, I can't help it, like I hate a raid like just ginger ale going to going down the throat and I I can't help it but I I work on it and what what amazes me is I will create a whole story in my head and then I'll run into that person a year later or whatever and they'll be so lovely and I'll be like ah Tommy's the best like I'll turn on a dime you'll so do you genuinely turn or you're just fake i you know i will i'm easily uh you can win me back easy and i think the great lala kent said that on our pot like i'm quick to be angry yeah but but i'll forgive quickly what's so funny is

we've been watching banner pump girls and I know you had Lala on. I guess technically we did too, but it was a few years ago and it was via Zoom. So it like doesn't really count. And I love her. And I actually, when I think about grudge holding and letting things go in this moment, like that's been a big theme of hers on Vanderpump Rules.

So, and I find it so attractive how she's just like letting go of anger right now. And it inspires me to want to do the same. But I do feel similarly where it's so so attractive how she's just like letting go of anger right now and it inspires me to want to do the same but I do feel similarly where it's like I'm hot hot hot and then I just kind of can let things go except for a few cases in life Claudia and I we were just celebrating Toast Anniversary so we did a couple episodes talking about on our Patreon talking about the last six years and like it's overwhelmingly positive and we're so we love everyone we love you all we love the show but like we have some

hate in our hearts and we're just never gonna let that go and generally where's that hate directed at our haters at our haters like I gotcha that's but you know what I think it's important to hold on to some negativity you can't just be like a delusional 100 positive person all of the time like no no yeah it's flavor it's season it's personality seasoning it is it is yes but you can't just be a hateful hater person all the time either like like everything else it's a mix of both like hateful hater person all the time either. Like, like everything else, it's a mix of both. Like together, a recipe, it comes out nice. Yeah. I think it, it, it benefits everyone to have a forgiving heart and, but it doesn't have to be instantaneous. You know, it can, you can let it

simmer for a minute. I agree. I'm loving the direction of this episode. Forgiveness, the I agree I'm loving the direction of this episode forgiveness the word of the moment grace we love grace here I like grace I'm down with grace I'm down with grace it's just like a word that just kind of like obfuscates everything it's like give them grace I like that I I've always liked the name grace for a girl it it just didn't never seem jewish enough 100 agree 100 like yeah i think it's a gorgeous name but then when you get back down to brass tacks it's like it's not for our people i what was there a pressure to do it to give your beautiful children jewish names so yes i didn't want anything that was like, so not Jewish, but my kids, they don't have,

um, like, like their names aren't Hebrew names or anything, but then they also have Yossi and David. Yeah. But I just wanted names that like historically have been, Jews have been called those names. It wouldn't be something like totally out of the ordinary,

but there are a lot of like, especially like new age names. There's like fun names out there that people get to name their kids. And I just feel like we can't really participate in that. Do you feel the same? I do. I mean, I think, look, my wife is Irish Catholic and it's, it's fascinating because she loved the name shy for our youngest son. And then I think she found out that it was a Hebrew name and she's like, oh, Josh is going to love this. And I did. I mean, she sold me.

She's like, you know, it means gift in Hebrew. And I was like, done. And I talked about this on the pod because I told my mom, she's like, are there any names you're thinking about? I said, yeah, we're thinking about shy. And she goes, no good. No good. And I go, why? She goes she goes shy they'll call him shy

no one wants to be shy she's such a Jewish mother that like the greatest offense would be to be shy no it's so true but I told her I, I was like, you know, it means gift. And she was in. Yeah. No, any name that you could always hear, they'll call and blink. And it's like, listen, we got to just pick something and hope that he's not shy. Right.

Yes. And he surely isn't at one and a half. He's not showing any signs. No signs of shyness. And what about, do you feel like your, your kiddos have grown into their names? Well, I feel like it's less about them growing into their names and me seeing them as those names. Do you know what I mean? Cause I feel like when you first name your baby, you're like, I'm just plucking a name out of nowhere and I'm assigning it to this person.

And I feel like for like them it's the only name that I've ever called them so like they know but it's more so like me you know and especially when you choose a name that you know someone with that name it's like okay your association is no longer going to be that person and now your baby is more of a Charlie than the Charlie that you know so I feel like it was more so like me wrapping my head around it because I feel like in the beginning it's just like this is just baby. And I'm supposed to call him by this like grown ass name. Right.

Like, can you imagine a baby named like George or like Meredith? That's hard. I love that name. I have a I have a cousin, Mary. But, you know, Mary probably was what she got called. But now she's Meredith, the impressive lawyer. She has to be a lawyer if her name is Meredith. Yeah, she's good too.

You don't want to be on her bad side. Yeah, that's a powerful name. I could talk about naming children. I could have a whole podcast about it, like a whole separate. It's, I think, the hardest thing in the world. Naming. Coming up with names? Naming, coming up with names, naming, like coming up with a name for your child, assigning it to them, like for the rest of their life. It's so much pressure.

We are, you know, my wife, um, for both of our kids had a C-section. So we're in the hospital for three days, usually like a, at least a day longer than if you had natural childbirth. And so we're day three years with names. Cause as you know, you have to pick a name before you leave to get the birth certificate set up. And we're day three years, like day one and two, it's still in the air.

No, like if, especially with Harry, I always knew he was going to be Harry, but with Charlie, I was like going between a lot of different names. And like, if I had given birth like a week before,

he probably would have had a different name. If I had left the hospital like the day before, I think he might've been a different name. We were really up until the end with him. But that's why I think, you know, home birth next time, take your time with it. Let him give it a few weeks. Like when you give birth at home,

when do you have to declare their name? That's fascinating. I guess whenever you feel like it. Yeah, that's kind of nice. I, you know, I think whatever your birth plan is, it's perfect for you and you should do what's right for you and your family. And I think I watch my friend Tarot just had his third kid. Congratulations. And his wife. Congratulations, Taro. Shout out, Taro.

And they had a natural home birth. And she just posted a photo of like what she used to get through it. And it was just a bottle of Tylenol. And I was like, shout out. I was like, much respect. So much respect. I love like seeing people do who post like videos or photos from their home birth I think it's the most impressive thing ever and just the idea of like giving birth and then getting into your bed and ordering you know like having your mug from of tea from your

kitchen like it's definitely competes with the power of an epidural. It's definitely like, hmm, I don't know, but I'm epidural all the way. I could never, but I have so much respect. And I'm very fascinated by it. I'm an epidural girl. I'm home birth curious, you know? That looks interesting. Yeah. What of the forbidden fruit, be it sushi, be it a glass of wine, be it a deli meat,

what was the first thing you wanted to do after you gave birth? Oh, deli meat. I love a turkey sandwich. I miss them so much during my pregnancy. And that was like the first thing. I had a turkey wrap. And I also love a hot dog too. So not being able to have, I guess you technically could have those things.

You talk to your doctor and some doctors think it's all kind of like not necessary to be so extreme but I really missed turkey deli turkey sandwich wrap oh I love I even now I eat them like every day for lunch yes no a great wrap a good wrap you feel like you really got your head on straight like life's working out yeah it's like it's a hearty lunch because it's not a sub it's not so indulgent and gonna weigh you down for the rest of the day but it's not a salad it's gonna provide some fullness i love no one who works at a desk go for it sorry i wish i could make my own wraps. But how do you get them tucked in right? Oh, there's got to be a YouTube tutorial for this.

This seems attainable, Jackie. I know. I'm sure there's like some tool on Amazon that will like give you a big burrito. Like just roll it up and it'll literally probably is that I need that because my wraps fall apart. I can't make a wrap at home. Yeah, you got my wife has figured out how to make. Are you familiar with Amasubi? Do you know what this is? Oh, no. It's there's Hawaiian influence in Japanese. It's almost like a sushi taco, but it's a triangle of rice.

And inside you could have spicy tuna. You could have like a miso beef. You could do like a more vegan. Like there's just like it's inside of this beautiful triangular rice housing. And then a piece of seaweed surrounding it. It takes a little bit of work. But she has figured out. She makes that at home? She can make it.

She makes sushi. Oh my gosh. I got gotta set my game up it's it's really like freeing when you realize like so many things that you love like food like from your favorite restaurant or whatever like you can make at home but i just gotta get the skills does she use any like fancy tools for that she does she she has invested they They have molds. So she kind of, she'll do the mold. But, you know, she, my wife's vegan. So she'll make these killer, her version of like, it's a spicy macadamia nut type thing with veggies and wrapped in soy paper and rice. It would knock your socks off.

So good. Shout out Paige. Really, really good. Shout out Paige. Oh my gosh. I was just going to just gonna you know make some big chicken for dinner and call myself chef and it's kosher so you know what i'm saying it's everyone's happy wow okay yum i feel inspired to step up my dinner game tonight a good chicken

but a good is there anything better than a roast chicken i mean mean, you feel like Ina Garten, don't you? You really, really do. That's the goal. Be like Ina and Jeffrey. Like Ina and Jeffrey. The great love story of our generation. It's so true. You know, she's writing a memoir.

It's coming out soon. That'll be good. I know too bit of scuttlebutt about two incredible women with incredible blowouts and that is Ina Garten and Anna Wintour and my friend when they're in LA they require a blowout every every day that they are here so he goes there in the morning and it takes about an hour they're I've only heard great reports from both. And I've heard one of them, and I'm not going to say who, after every blowout, hands my friend a crisp $50 bill tip in addition to his fee. Wow. Where do you get the crisp bill? A guaranteed crisper every time. You're ordering a stack. You're getting a loop from the bank yeah yeah fresh money it's not from

the atm that's like a no water down yeah been through the mill yes okay well i'm so excited that you're here because we're gonna do the fast five today we have some really good stories was a big weekend and josh going to help us break down what's going on in the world speaking of what's going on in the world the reason for the season which is you know Claudia and Ben were supposed to go to Israel which was why I was doing guest co-host week their trip was canceled because casual World War III started yes so they are they didn't go to Israel but they actually are taking the week off anyway because I had these guests planned but but what a crazy weekend.

I feel like it kind of tracks that world war three would start the same weekend as Coachella. Fair. Yes. It's just like enough already. Like something to just disrupt the second weekend. Anyone who bought tickets to the second weekend is going like, really this now? Yes. Yeah.

So it was just so crazy Iran attacked Israel with like over 300 missiles and drones and thankfully they were intercepted by Israeli um air force and some of their allies but it's just a really fucking crazy time so praying for everyone praying for everyone it's living in that area of the world right now, but really just being an inhabitant of this world. It's an incredibly scary time as a parent and worrying about kids. And I would just, you know,

urge people to not like run to overly simplify it in a tweet or on social media and like accept the nuance and the gravity of like what it must feel like to be living under the threat of that. Yeah, that's very good advice. Yeah. Okay. Well, without further ado, it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know. Today's episode is brought to you by Bowlin Branch. Today's sponsor being Bowlin Branch is so pertinent to my situation because I have Shannon staying in my guest bedroom and she is sleeping on my Bowlin Branch sheets. And I just feel really proud and also very certain that she's going to have an amazing

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with her man's travis kelsey and taylor took a picture with theresa judice which is really sort of breaking the internet i think people are it's it's like it's really a shocking picture like i feel like these two people exist in like two different time-space continuums. And now like we've broken the matrix that they are together. So Taylor went to Coachella with Travis. They were being super PDA.

There's really no privacy there. Everyone just like phones on them at all times. They were being really cute. He was picking her up. They were kissing, dancing. And they were in the pit next to one Teresa Giudice and her new husband Luis Ruelas and they took a picture together which is just it's too much it's seriously too much so what was your Coachella viewing experience as a person on the internet this weekend? Well, I will say, first of all,

does Teresa Giudice go down in top five Real Housewives members ever? Top five, top 10? She goes down in top five. She does. Even though she has her good seasons and her really bad seasons. She is one of the few who's a day one OG

and she's contributed to the most iconic housewives moments of all time. Therefore it's top five. She really couldn't have gotten a picture with a better housewife. Honestly, they should study Teresa's hairline in Turkey where they do the hair restoration surgeries. Her hairline is so beautiful.

She is really just an outstanding, like my affection for her has only grown over the last decade and a half. And I just think that her and Taylor, I get it. I see it. You know, I couldn't there. I couldn't see Taylor Swift with every housewife, but Teresa and Taylor, I just, I see it. No, if one housewife was going to get a picture with Taylor Swift like of course it would be Teresa I want to even first of all I feel like Taylor knows who she is because she probably doesn't keep up with that many housewives but Teresa is like the most recognizable housewife she's been on forever and like the table flipping moment even if everybody saw that even even if you're not like a big housewives fan so I just

would love to have like I guess there were a million flies on the walls because everyone around them has their phones and is watching this like to see the moment between them when she asked for a picture what does has uh Taylor ever intimated what that she watches any reality tv that she has any kind of indulgence so that's a Claudia question but for my perch yes I feel like she consumes a kind of indulgence? So that's a Claudia question, but for my perch, yes. I feel like she consumes a lot of what's out there in the culture. Not such a huge reality TV aficionado,

but she watches TV, and she's very up-to-date on what's going on in pop culture, I feel. So I think so. And if she was going to watch a housewives, like I do think real houses of New Jersey is one of the more iconic franchises. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. Shout out the manzos. Um, I, I like seeing, uh, Travis and Taylor out together, especially in this setting. I think if there was any couple on earth that deserves a victory lap, it's them.

And why not? Like they have so clearly won at this weird video game of life and they found each other that I'm kind of all for it. Yeah, me too. She was wearing the hat from his podcast merch. I love that she's dating a podcaster. That's big for the industry. That's really good for us we need to start talking about that on our our group chat with um you know the the smart list guys um are you in a podcast a successful podcast group chat that we're not in i'm not but although i i've heard there is one with like the biggest like the you've heard that for real yeah and the fact that you guys aren't in it blasphemy oh claudia and i are activated but i think that's part of the reason why she's going

to the 5k burton thomas 5k because it's time like we met with our contemporaries and there is this like podcast world and i guess because a lot of them are comedians and they know each other like outside of podcasting but there's definitely a podcasting in crowd. Do you feel that way? Yeah, I would say that. And I absolutely agree with it, except for the fact that I woke up to a text because, you know, there were a three hour difference. So sometimes at 630 a.m. I'll see a text from Claudia or from Ben. And it was just i'm running a 5k with tom sagura and burt kreischer do you want to come and i just i instantly wrote back of course now i'm in a 5k claudia's training i am out of shape i'm gonna embarrass myself claudia's training like

it is the new york city. Like she is going to crush. But she needs to be networking along the way. So wherever other people are in the race, like she's going to have to kind of hold herself back. I just think we need a full like head to toe sponsor. Shout out Roan. Shout out Viore. Shout out Ciccone.

Shout out Brooks. Shout out Merrill. Like I'm going to run it in birkenstocks with any full body sponsor that i get i'm running in their clothes claudia got her sponsorship no so now yes she's being sponsored by reebok for the 5k oh that's huge all right fine i'll do merrill that's motivating you know Skechers that would be cute yeah that would be very good if I speed walk that 5k in shape ups that would be great that works it always comes back to the 5k even though Taylor Swift was at Coachella just being like a normal girly with her boyfriend I think people were really excited to see

them together people love just the the content know, and there's so much because everyone at Coachella has their hand up in the air with their phone. What is your, what's your feeling about Coachella as it stands today, right now in this moment? That's such a great question. I feel like Coachella has been on a journey and I actually feel like, and this is a great question. I feel like Coachella has been on a journey. And I actually feel like, and this is a great segue into our next story about Coachella, I feel like Coachella is becoming more, again, about the music. Like, I feel like it got so big and so crazy. And it wasn't even about, like, the music and what it started out as. It was more about, like, brand activations and influencers and celebrities.

And now all of the news, aside from Taylor and Travis, but all of the news that's come out about Coachella this weekend is really about what happened on stage. People like brought out surprise guests. There's just like a lot of news about the music. And I feel like the brand stuff is still happening, but at least to me, maybe because I'm older and I see less of it, it feels like it's waning a little bit and it's just becoming like more of a music festival that it was designed to be. What do you think? I think the issue with Coachella is it's like a great, the reason why Woodstock is cool is because it was once and it's like a great hot restaurant in the city. And then a year goes by then two years and three, and then suddenly everyone's been and suddenly it's

not so cool that's kind of how I feel at this point it's too accessible I feel that how many did you ever go to Coachella if so how many times never never went and proud that's really surprising I feel like for LA people it's not as big of a deal or as big of a lift as it is for us. And you guys are just like, oh, maybe I'll catch Coachella this weekend. Maybe weekend two even. It's not. Yeah, it's not the jaunt that it would be for East Coasters. It's like the equivalent to New Yorkers going to Great Adventure.

You know, six flags. Shout out. I, yeah, I, I, I, you know, the thing is like the real balling people because it's an absurd trek from la to palm springs which is usually two hours without a festival but can turn into like 10 hours with traffic so it's all about getting a private plane those are that's what the ballers do or they take a helicopter in I mean oh yeah but you that's crazy that's so crazy I feel like you've had so you've been in the game in the biz for so long as both a celebrity and an influencer which is Coachella like

magnet has it I feel like it's an active choice that you've never gone, like you're anti. Yeah, it never appealed to me. And my buddies were going like mid-aughts, 2006, 2007, outcasts performing like that. Those years seemed cool, but I was like, it wasn't as popular and I just wasn't aware of it then. And so now, oh, sorry, I think, okay, sorry, the sound jumped out for a sec. But yeah, it just, I missed it. And now it feels too cool and popular and it doesn't interest me. I've always wanted to go to like Ultra in Miami. Really?

I feel like you, Ben would love to go to Ultra. He loves house music. You guys should go together. Good guys live from Ultra. I would love to go to Ultra as a 37 year old man. I'll stay at your place and it'll be perfect. It would, we'll do Shabbat and then I'll go watch Steve Aoki. No, I love that. You guys do good guys live from Ultra and BBYO. Nothing in between. I love that. Just another reason to come to Florida, let me tell you. Yeah, anytime. And then we can hit up the Diz, Disney. Yes. Have you been to Disney yet? Never to the world. To land, I've been. The LA one. Because that's, yeah, that's

a rite of passage. People go there without kids even when they're in LA. It's a big yes. Like we're just going to hit up downtown Disney. My fun story about going to Disney for the first time with my son Max is I was on a Disney Plus show called Turner and Hooch and it ran for a year during the pandemic and after. And part of being a Disney employee is you get 10 tickets a year to the park, which is incredible. It's such a nice gift. And in addition, you get a guide, which is really the game changer. Because you now have someone who's walking you around the park, getting you into rides in an expedited way. It's really a great thing.

That's major. It's super major.'s it's pretty fun any disney employee or you have to be like on a show i don't know i i i don't know i think it's if you're acting in something for disney okay okay yeah and so we my wife, my mother-in-law, my son, Max, we have like this red letter day. My wife's best friend and their kids. And it was right about the time where we were going to hear about whether the show got picked up for a second season. So we have this great day.

Later that night, we're eating in downtown Disney. And I get the text that the show is not picked up at Disney and I remember being like well I'm so glad I used these passes in time yeah did the guy just walk away he just walked away he was like so sorry yeah good luck have fun at your next audition and I was like thank you so much oh my god have fun in general admission next time. Yeah, nice humbling. As an actor, that's really motivating. An actor and a parent,

that's really motivating to get on a Disney show. It is. It is such a game changer. Look, and we've talked about this on The Good Guys. In life, the goal is to have a guy. Whether it's someone to fix shit around your house. Whether it's a guy to Disneyland, you want a guy. And when you have that person, I mean, it's, it's everything. No, that is so true. Well, you've got to come to a world down here. We went for the first time with the, our family in January and it was a ball. It was, I, it was really a magical experience.

What, what have you, what were you kind of over before you had your kids and now you've fallen in love with, with it again through their eyes? Oh, that is such a great question. I feel like there are so many things that I maybe clowned on even that now as a parent I'm like oh this is so great or I feel like even like resources or you just look at things differently like even like parks I was never much for parks like why do we need parks like or who cares if the park is old like but now I'm like oh that, that's a nice park. We should go to that park. I've heard that park just did some renovations. That park, a splash pad. We'll be there.

Yes. Ah, such a great point. A great park is everything. A great park is everything. Like, do you live near a good park? We should move closer to a good park. A good park is huge. Or you know what else is fun?

A parklet, which I didn't even know existed until now, but it's just a mini park. A mini park. A parklet. Also, when we were in New York and I lived there, like when Harry was born and then we moved back when I was pregnant with Charlie. So we were there for six months. And it's like the way I'm on the government website, like zoom out, looking at all the parks in the city, looking at what features they have, like which one has a sprinkler,

which one has things like,, which one has swings. And you know how you always like drive past a park. You would never know what it's called. It's just like the park on 65th. Like now they all have names too. They all have storied histories and I'm really into parks. And as a taxpayer, also the library, I was just saying this last week on the show,

because last weekend we went to our local library. And a few times now I've been to the library. I was just saying this last week on the show because last weekend we went to our local library and a few times now I've been to the library like as a parent. What an amazing place. It's spectacular and I love utilizing what my city has to offer. I didn't know that my town has a parks and rec website and I enrolled my son in basketball. So Sunday mornings from nine to 10, he's playing basketball at our local park. That is so beautiful. We were driving past a library a few weeks ago and I never like checked the library programming and I saw they had an event called touch a truck and it was just the library parking

lot was filled with all different kinds of working trucks like garbage trucks fire trucks all the trucks came to the parking lot of the library and the kids could touch a truck that's cute which which truck did they enjoy touching most we didn't know we were driving past and it was like ending i wouldn't even have known about it if i didn't drive past but like there are people whose job it is to like think of these things and program them and i feel like before i was a parent i'd just be like oh government waste now i'm like love that love that and yes more more truck touching i think in 2024 isn't that hysterical like and it's so it's like a free thing for them. Like just get your truck in the parking lot.

And for the kids, it's like they just love trucks. They love it. I mean, the magic was never completely lost for me. But you realize how fun a mall can be like with kids. I mean, it is a wonderland. So much to see, so much to smell. So much to smell. Let's hit up a Wetzel Pretzel in Annie Ann's.

Let's get some walking fuel. And let's just see. Let's go have the mall experience. Yeah. Oh, we love the mall. Bring back malls. I feel like they, you see like these pictures of like abandoned malls. Cause you know, the malls are suffering.

They're hard times for the malls. suffering they're it's hard times for the malls but i feel like now it's like only the best survive like the biggest greatest malls there's like that one the american dream mall in new jersey they have indoor skiing you've really got to step up your game if you're a mall right now i love a good mall and shout out i was recently in edmonton canada and they have the West Edmonton Mall, which is the biggest mall in North America. It has a full water park, ice skating rink, theme park, 900 stores, 90 restaurants.

Yeah, I did my research and it was a great time. A full functioning pirate ship with pirates. Wow. Did you ever go to the Mall of America? I have been to the Mall of america twice i don't mean to brag and it's it's a great time i've never been i feel like i feel like as a child star like you just spend time at the mall of america for one reason or like tour or a signing like life takes you there yeah no i can imagine we've all seen the videos of like, you know,

influencers or child stars filling up the floors of their local mall because there was some huge moment, an event. It's huge. Like Mary-Kate and Ashley, I just associate like them with the Mall of America. The Mall of America. What a time.

What a time. Simpler times, man. Okay, well, our next story, ah the mall of america what a time what a time simpler times man okay well our next story back to coachella and the music that made news so lana del rey headline she brought out billy eilish uh no doubt reunited with gwen stefani they brought out olivia rodrigo tyler the creator and asap rocky performed together vampire weekend brought out paris hilton and more so back we're back to music it's all about the cameo suki waterhouse performed she literally gave birth five minutes ago queen and she announced that they had a baby girl so there was an article about her and robert pattinson um and it said that she gave birth to a boy though i had speculated it was a

girl because it looked like their bassinet stroller had a pink cover top, which you get for a girl. So I was like, oh, it's a girl. They said it was a boy, but she went on stage and said it was a girl. So Mazel Tov. Massive Mazel. And how long ago did she have a baby? Like a week? In March.

So it could be three weeks, five weeks ago. In March. So it could be three weeks, five weeks ago. And I feel like with your first baby, you're in that bubble of newborn chaos for even longer because it's so new. And with your second, you still have the first, you still have to go to the park and stuff. So just the fact that she would come out and perform after like her first baby that's like so impressive and she looked unreal shout out her that is no yeah that is no easy feat you know she ain't sleeping and she's getting out there i mean there's no vocal rest she's talking so to be able to share her gift good for her yeah do you have a nice singing voice i do i have an okay i i'm a very typical like performing arts sad like child star like triple threat you and you do dance too i mean i yeah

i'm all right i can be choreographed have you ever done or thought about like dancing with the stars? I've been offered many times, not once or twice. Yeah. I always turn it down. Why? I feel like that's the point of it for me. That's like peak. Like I only become a star so that I can dance with them. It's it is.

It's a fantastic show. I think there are some people who've been able to parlay it into more, but for most people, it's something they do on the way down. No, on the way. You're either on the way up or the way down. It's true. That's right. So I feel like I'm not against it.

And I love the art of dance and expression through dance. And I was once randomly at a Russian sauna in West Hollywood. And I saw that guy, Max, there. And I was like, good for you, in West Hollywood and I saw that guy Max there and I was like, good for you, man. We have very different body types. Nevertheless, but. Well, that's an added perk of Dancing with the Stars. Like you get shredded, you like lose weight, you you're dancing like 24 seven, like everyone

like comes out of Dancing with the Stars. It's like fat camp. And you like I think that's actually like perk number one. I, you know, I, there were so many moments in my life growing up in New York where fat camp was threatened, where it was like negative to you. No, no. I love Camp Shane. Shout out.

You remember that? Of course I know Camp Shane. And I wanted to go. And then it it just seemed I don't think we had the money but no I was like I was like this is no threat to me like this sounds like a good time like this it's you know what it is it's basically like um what are those it's a canyon ranch for 12 year olds right yeah do you know that we went to fat camp, right? Really? Yeah. That's all of us. All the sisters obsessed. Yes. We went to like a regular camp for, I went for six summers, like all girls main the works. And then we started going to a fat camp and it was, we loved it even more. It was

the best thing ever. And now it's like, before I had Harry, I had put on some COVID weight and I was like, I got to go to like some sort of weight loss retreat. And I had Harry, I had put on some COVID weight and I was like, I got to go to like some sort of weight loss retreat. And I did like, I'm kind of like obsessed with the idea that I went to a weight loss retreat actually in Florida in 2021. Yeah. Like I just can't quit it. I love that. And what, what do you think if you could like, um, sort of break down exactly what were the things that made you love camp or like loved, loved the weight loss camp more than your camp in Maine? What was it? Just everyone was free. Yeah, it was a really good energy. Also, it was a co-ed camp and we had come from an all girls camp, but it's not like we were boy crazy. also was a co-ed camp and we had come from an all-girls camp but it's not like we were boy crazy um that's a really good question I don't know there was just like a different energy a je ne

sais quoi about fat camp like it's like it was a crazy place and then I counselored there for a few summers we just like we love camp and then when we did our camp toast we did like two camp weekends back in 2018 and 2019 we held it at the grounds of our back camp a little toast herstory for you and was there ever moments like in heavyweights where like someone was hiding a care package under their bed like built into their bed frame yes so really most people didn't bring stuff up because like also your parents are packing you so they're they're sending you here. Like they're not going to undo all their hard work, but actually, um, on visiting day, one of our bunk mates,

her mom like made these like amazing blondies and she would bring them up. Um, and she would like bring them to us. And like we had been working hard all summer. So it was a little treat for us and we were obsessed. And then one of our bunk mates snitched on us because we just weren't all getting along at the moment. And so she was like, fine. They have blondies in the bunk. Unacceptable.

And what happened? Did they send in dogs? Blondie sniffing dogs. If we hadn't finished them all, we got in trouble. But I think maybe we had finished them all by then So like what can you do But yeah it was major drama The Blondie Gate of 2006

While you were thinking about going to see Outcast at Coachella We were housing Blondies in the bunk Solid It is a unique It's an east coast Whether you go in the Poconos or Maine or Connecticut, it's like no, no families I know on the West Coast have any real understanding of like,

like even the idea of a sleepaway camp is pretty foreign. I know, I know. And actually this is a great time for me to mention my children's book, The Camper and the Counselor, which is about sleepaway camp and meeting your favorite counselor. But a lot of what I've heard from people, it's like, I never got to go to camp. So I like love hearing about it from the show and also like in the book. Because if you didn't go to camp, the idea of sleepaway camp for eight weeks is so crazy for people.

What do you feel about, I have friends who are like, they're an incredible family, loving, very close, like not your typical, like what you would think a waspy kind of colder family would be that would send their kids to boarding school, but their kids, two of their kids go to boarding school. One, one of the, their son plays, you know, uh, really competitive hockey. So they grew up in LA. He had to go on the East Coast if he wanted to play that aggressively and they love it for him, but it's 10 months a year. So I feel like my idea of boarding school is like so cliche, like drugs, partying,

you know, I don't know if that's even what it is. I feel like I read too many books growing up. that's even what it is i feel like vineyard vines growing up yeah just like kids acting like adults and i don't know enough about it but i could see how like if a school offers something very specific for a child who's into something very specific and this is the best place for them yeah they're very like elite institutions but no it's not something that, that like is familiar to me. You know what I mean? What is your thought? I'd move. I'd move to the suburbs of Andover or Exeter or wherever they were. I couldn't, I couldn't handle it. Yeah. Would you send your kids to sleepaway camp? Um, I think that I would, I really want my kids to go to space camp. Shout out Florida, Cape Canaveral. That was always a dream of mine.

It's only a three-day camp, but space camp seems awesome. Okay, and so they'll go, yeah? Are there any barriers to space camp? No, I mean, just like courage, bravery, and a love of astronomy. A love of astronomy. A love of astronomy. Yeah. I think they would love it. My son has no issues leaving my wife and I,

which I think is unfortunately pretty healthy, but it kills us. But, you know, he's gone on trips with his grandparents for three, four, five days. What a traveler. Yeah, like two years ago, my wife and I went to Italy for a week and it was killing us. We were there for our close friend's wedding, which was lovely, but leaving him first time we had left him and he was with his grandparents and he wouldn't even FaceTime us. He was like, stop bothering me. I'm having the time of my life. I kind of feel that. Do you feel like when you're away from them that like you want to FaceTime them where it's like you don't want to remind them that you're not there? Do you know

what I mean? Yes, I am very anti FaceTime in almost every situation. And I agree. It's just like, let's just tough this out and I'll see you soon. But unless they like are asking to FaceTime you, it's like if they're just like enjoying themselves, no need to remind them. I agree. But my wife is like, I almost feel at times like I'll do these gigs where I go away for a day or two days for a college gig. And, uh, if I don't make the effort to FaceTime, I feel like my wife is like, you got to give us one. I got to see you make the effort, even if it doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah. I feel that.

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Let's go see a show, Game Time. Thank you. Okay, well, our next story is actually a little bit of breaking news this morning. Real Housewives of Miami star Alexia Napola's husband Todd has filed for divorce after two years of marriage so Todd and Alexia got married two years ago uh she's on the Real Houses of Miami this is really really surprising because I watched the earlier seasons of the reboot and they seem solid as a rock. This is a very new marriage. So I am actually, I'm, I'm very surprised. I know Real Housewives divorces

aren't supposed to be surprising at this point, but they seem different. They are newlyweds. And from what I saw of them on the show, and I did miss the last season. So maybe there was like drama brewing, but it doesn't seem that way. They seemed like incredibly solid. The scenes that I saw of them together, like he actually seemed like a really great partner and a voice of reason in her life. So I wonder what's gone on. He filed, they found the court filings and he claimed in the filing that their marriage is irretrievably broken, which always sounds so dramatic, but it's like one of three boxes you can check. It's like those aren't his original words. What are the other boxes?

Irreconcilable differences. Right. Adultery, would that be a box? He snores. Yeah, like that would be irreconcilable differences, which also sounds dramatic. It sounds super dramatic. Like when, meanwhile, he just needs a mouth guard. Right.

Irretrievably broken. It's giving like, I feel like that's what adultery would fall under because it's like the betrayal is broken. Yeah. Yes. Not saying that's what happened here, but this is different than irreconcilable differences, which is like the go-to for like, I don't like you anymore. I find, I think statistically people are most likely to get divorced either between years one and three or seven and nine.

Now, I feel like they're slightly older, right? Or at least he is. Yes, they both are. They're in their 40s and 50s. She's 56 and he's 51. know ages one through five where it's just like all hands on deck but i think it's fascinating right because in the first three years if there's issues and it doesn't seem to resolve some people pull the ripcord because they're like oh this is but a preview of more to come and let's end this before we have kids and then between seven and nine is where people are finally coming out and

they're sort of coming to the surface taking a breath because their kid is four or five they're in school it's a little less intense and they go oh right we don't actually like each other so that is so fascinating i didn't know that was the stat but that does make a lot of sense and it's like whoever you became in the year in marriage year three to seven it's like we've been you know tunnel vision on the kids and then're like, oh, and now you're like this. Right. I, I I'm very, you know, it's interesting. I have a lot of, uh, not a lot of friends, but I certainly know people who had been together 15, 20 years, who've gotten divorced as of the last couple of years. And I don't know, as of the last couple of years. And I don't know, I think everyone's approach is different,

but I'm very much, I'm not so interested in my happiness anymore. And I say that in a nice way where it's like, I feel like my happiness is a direct result of this unit working. And, and that's really good for my marriage. I totally feel that. That's a really good way of putting it. This unit working. Yeah, it's a good investment. How long have you been married? We've been together going on 13 years in October, but we've been married seven. You're hitting that seven stretch. I know. I'm, I'm so in, she'd have to leave me. I'm telling you, like, I love my wife. We, I totally lucked out. I feel it's weird. It feels, and tell me Jackie, what you're feeling is like, I feel like it's the one thing that God or the universe or whatever made incredibly easy in my life. Like, I feel like I was just gifted it. Like, I don't, I feel like I don't deserve such a great wife and in-laws and just,

it was a real gift. That is so beautiful and such a great way to look at it. No, I totally agree. And it's like, it really is so, it's so, the partnership is so nice, you know, like you don't have to walk this earth alone it's like when you go from like just like doing everything by yourself and like relying on yourself and then like you can like have someone that's there to like help you whether it's like emotionally or physically or you know like can you get me a drink from the other room or bring in my packages um it's a relief it's you know I find that people you know there's so much self help

and we live in this culture of working on ourselves which is great but when you do it as a single person I feel like the danger can be you become like a Fabergé egg where you're stunning and elegant but the moment you get jostled around you shatter and I feel like a partner forces you to like walk through the gauntlet and face things that you'd never face on your own and then you do that for just long enough and then you introduce a child into the scenario and now you've got a

whole new set of things and you have to walk through it together so it's like you've been welded to get like it's a fusion as opposed to just like constantly focusing on yourself and you alone, like and you're all set, like you go through these things with someone, it like welds you together and you're just like you become one. It's really it's so crazy. Is there anything that your husband has revealed to you about yourself that you're not sure you would have seen without his help oh for sure I feel I feel like I noticed a lot of things about myself when I first got into a relationship in general like it was very hard for me to this sounds like a negative that I'm a positive that I'm making sound like a negative but like

I was so independent that like I couldn't even conceive of positive that I'm making sound like a negative, but like, I was so independent that like, I couldn't even conceive of like, oh, I'm invited to this party. I need to tell this other person about it. You know what I mean? Like I was so used to doing everything like by myself. And then I really had to like learn how to be like, we are a we now it's not just like me. And then this person, like we are a unit and that is no longer like a in our like we do everything together we're up each other's butts now but that was something I didn't even realize about myself until I started until I was in a serious relationship with him but now things that I do that he will call me out for I'm like oh yeah that's yeah it's funny you can't see yourself the

way that someone else can see you like he'll like read me to filth and I'll do the same to him. And I'm like, I can like just see it's like a zoomed out version of yourself. And because we're together all the time, it's like he sees me all the time, not just like the highlights. I love that. Yeah, I I remember my wife, the most important thing she taught me was like, you know, we're allowed to fight because family doesn't leave. And I didn't, I, cause you know, it's been my mom and I single mom, only child against the world. So I assumed everyone could leave. And when I found that this

will sound like you said, like something that I'm a positive that I'm making sound negative. But when I realized that you didn't have to be perfect and that we could be angry, we could go to bed angry, but we're going to figure this out, be it today, tomorrow or the next day, because family doesn't leave. And yeah, that level of like loyalty and I'm down for you was, you know, unbelievable. And then in the short term, my wife is constantly reminding me, no one's disrespecting you, dog. Because I walk around with that sometimes. I'm like, I don't like the way he treated me.

And she'll be like, you got to let it go, brother. That is so funny and so real. No, it's hysterical. Okay, our next story, fourth story, Met Gala invite list is out and so far includes Giselle Bunchen Rihanna Kendall Jenner and more um newcomers to the invite list this year include Killers of the Moon star Lily Gladstone and the Bear star Ayo Adebiri uh sorry Giselle Bunchen will attend and there's speculation whether or not she'll bring her boyfriend with her, her new boyfriend. So yeah, it's April.

We're just a few weeks out from the first Monday in May. Wow. Invite list is swirling. Have you ever been invited to the Met Gala? I feel like this would be your year, Oppenheimer. Thank you so much. I famously turned down an invitation to, to the Met Gala that I told that story here to Hillary Dove. And she said, I believe to quote her, she said,

what are you a fucking moron? Like something like that. Yeah. That was a real, what are you not Met Gala and dancing with the stars? Like, why are you even a celebrity? How are you doing? Go move to a farm. When and why are you even a celebrity? I know. What are you doing? Go move to a farm. I'm blowing it. When and why did you turn it down? I was 21. I was in a movie that won Sundance called The Whackness. And it was this very cool New York movie with a cool cast. Sir Ben Kingsley, Mary-Kate Olsen, Method Man. And it was just having, it was just like it it was having a moment and it

was cool and indie and I got I was like in Vanity Fair and all these different magazines and I was just like doing the cool thing for a second and I was invited and I had never heard of it again it was like Coachella for me it was 2008 and'm like, I don't know what this is. And I'm pretty tired. And I was just in New York three times in the last month. So I might pass on this. And no one told me, Hey, maybe think about it. That is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Cause would it be a dream for you to go? No, no like oh yeah no I'm like yeah no I don't want to go um no I'm more of a like I just like you know being on like this you know I'm not really one to want to be in it but I feel like when you're an actor and a celebrity like that's what

you do that's just like where you go but I also feel like it definitely it's a cool factor like I turned down the Met Gala what is the ratio of people who are always invited to we leave this amount of space open to a Lily Gladstone whoever's of the moment that's a great question I feel like it's maybe 20 to 30 percent new people for celebrities I don't know about all the business folk and industry people but when we look at the carpet I feel like 20 to 30 or 20 percent like have never been there before right so it makes you think about the 20 percent of previous years who didn't get asked back. Right. That would be hard on someone's ego too, I'm sure. Yeah, because it's like if you were buzzy,

like if you were the new person last year, but you didn't do much this year. Now, is it like, it's at Lincoln Center, right? No, it's at the Met, the Metropolitan Museum. Oh, duh. Thank you. Right, duh. Thank you. Right, right, for sure. So it's at the one with the gigantic Tyrannosaurus Rex in the foyer.

No, I'm kidding. That's natural history. I think that's natural history, yeah. It is. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But like, okay, so my question is, what happens at the dinner? Are you in the Hilton ballroom in the sense of like,

is it just banquet food and a performance? Kind of, it's like the exhibit and pictures and tables and food. And then there's also performers, but I think there's also art and, you know, yeah, I guess it's, it's giving in this work event. Got it. So once you go up those famous stairs and you're inside it's you're at a mixer you could be at a marriott in columbus yes surrounded by the costume institute and things costume things in which to costume but yeah no it's it's like your regular regular work event i can just imagine. I imagine that one day by chance,

I do something really cool and I'm considered to be invited again. And then someone goes up to Anna winter and goes, um, let me just play you this video real quick. And Anna goes, did he say it's like a mixer in Columbus at the Marriott? Did he say it's at Lincoln center? I'm such a dumb human.

And that he turned it down 10 years ago. Proudly. Oh, I'm an idiot. I made a terrible mistake, Ms. Winter. And congrats on your event. Congrats on your event. I'm excited to see the looks. I already forget what the theme is.

Hopefully it's good. And yeah, hopefully there's some interesting people there. Hopefully some like couples. I think everybody's like, are Taylor and Travis gonna go? She's been before. He's never been, but it's a very Kardashian centric event.

And you know, that's, you know, they keep things separate. But I don't think she would let that stop her from going because I don't think she's like, I think a print on principle, it's like, they're not going to let me stop me from having a good time, which I agree with.

So that'll be interesting. Really interesting. But again, once assuming they both go, like once they get into the party side, is there like a division of the room? Like that? I think for those two,

there would be, but they have so many mutual friends it would be weird they would have like their backs to each other and like everyone else around them is talking to both of them wow unreal unreal i'm excited now yeah i'm excited it's always fun content for the show and hopefully there's some good looks so invite list seems to be pretty usual suspects and we'll keep you posted can't wait our fifth and final story is actually some major news because we have been talking about love is blind on the show for months the name on everybody's lips this season was megan fox and megan fox has finally addressed the love is blind drama where chelsea

compared herself to megan fox so if you didn't watch love is blind drama where Chelsea compared herself to Megan Fox. So if you didn't watch love is blind, one of the contestants, this show is all about, you know, falling in love with someone, not seeing them. So one of the contestants had said like, people tell me I look like Megan Fox. And of course, if you're on the other side of that wall, it's like, oh, I like this girl. And she looks like Megan Fox, like amazing. Can't wait. Then people were quick to point out, like, she doesn't look like Megan Fox as much as she said. And I think people also took issue with the fact, like, it felt like it was like a way

of getting him to choose her. Because yeah, if I already like you and you look like Megan Fox, I'm going to pick you over the person I also like, but I don't know what she looks like for madam. So Megan Fox's name has been in the news and the headlines for months now, and it had absolutely nothing to do with her.

And she's finally talking about her thoughts on the matter. So she was at Coachella and she went to the revolt festival. The rundown host, Aaron Lim asked her about the drama. She said, I've never had more people text me about something. She said, I've had a lot of people text and stop me.

Even other celebrities at like Oscar parties were like, do you watch Love is Blind? And I was like, no, but I know what you're talking about. So she said, I didn't watch it, but I think in general, no one deserves to get bullied. I don't think she deserved that. I think people went way too hard. According to Megan, she thought that the comparison wasn't farfetched. She said, I did see a picture of her. A hundred thousand percent people have told her you kind of look like Megan Fox so I believe she's telling the truth and I hope that she still has that sparkle in her eye I hope the world didn't steal it from her mine died long ago from being bullied for 20 years so I hope that didn't happen to her best wishes and blessings so I think everything that she's saying is totally factual

I agree that I think people had said to Chelsea like that she does look like Megan Fox because there are similarities between them I think the issue more people took issue with the fact that she was saying that on a show where you're supposed to fall in love blindly and it's definitely like leading him into like thinking that Megan Fox is there so yeah the good news is I don't think people took the sparkle from Chelsea. I think she handled all the criticism like a pro. I don't think, you know, what came her way was deserved. And people got like just so up in arms about it.

It just became this huge national thing. And I think Megan Fox is classic Megan. You know, she didn't watch it. Everyone should fuck off and stop being a bully. I love that. I love that for her. I, Ben and I talked about this early on. Cause when I finally did see her, I was, I, I said like, yeah, I seem, I certainly see Megan Fox and Ben said, who would you say is your celebrity doppelganger? And I said, I look like a mix of like Adrian Grenier and Jay Leno had a baby and he goes he goes that's the problem is that she didn't say her Jay Leno like if you just

said Adrian Grenier then you're leaving a little bit out yeah and yeah that's that's a really good comparison for you thank you you also look like that celebrity josh peck i'll take it listen hey what can you do uh he's an interesting one but i i agree and i i gotta say i love i love when a celebrity like megan fox can will allow herself to be like of course i heard about like if she had tried to say like what do you mean you'd be like, of course I heard about it. Like if she had tried to say like, what do you mean? You'd be like, come on. That she had heard about it and was lovely about it. And I just hope Chelsea hears this and is glad to know that at Oscar parties,

they were talking about her. The name on everybody's lips was Chelsea. So I hope that brings her just some joy. Like, how cool is that? You were at those parties. I was, I was at the universal party for the Oscars and it was a good time. It was, you know, it was a viewing party for anyone who perhaps maybe didn't get the invite to the Oscars, but universal did a beautiful job and we had a very nice time. And yeah, I don't know if I told this story quite yet, but for the Golden Globes when Oppenheimer won and Killian and Christopher Nolan,

I was there and it was very exciting. And they invited us, me and another actor friend of mine, into this room. They said, listen, we want to get a group photo. So can you just stand in this room and wait for everyone to come in? And I walk into this room and there's these three lovely women sitting there and, and they kind of look at me and my friend, like, what are you doing in here? And I'm like, I don't know. And I, they didn't say that, but I did say, oh, sorry. We were told to, to stand in here. I'm Josh. And they said, oh, hi, I'm so-and-so and and i'm donna langley and who is the

chairman of universal pictures i was like so nice to meet you thank you for the job and uh and she couldn't have been more lovely and then all of a sudden you know robert downey jr comes in and matt damon and emily blunt and all of just like and i was like what am am I? I'm Josh from Dancing with the Stars season 35. I don't belong here, but it was a fun time. That is fun. So many fun facts about you and so many that I learned today for the first time. Jackie, I feel closer to you than ever. You are just a big bowl of wonderful. And I'm so glad. Thank you for asking me. Thank you for coming. You have to come see us down here. We're going to go to Ultra.

We're going to go to Disney. And we're going to go to Cape Canaveral. I'm in space camp with you. Say less. Okay. Well, thank you so much, everyone who listened. Thank you, Josh. You know what?

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