The Toast - Grandma Is A Wench: Monday, July 31st, 2023

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

Cardi B Throws Microphone at Concertgoer Who Tossed a Drink at Her While Performing in Las Vegas (People) (11:14)Lisa Hochstein Slams Estranged Husband Lenny For Getting Engaged to ‘Mistres...s’ While Still Married (Page Six) (17:00)Harry Styles Flashes New Tattoo Seemingly Dedicated to Ex Olivia Wilde (Page Six) (24:05)Teresa Giudice Calls Sofia Vergara The ‘Rudest’ Celebrity She’s Ever Met (Page Six) (31:35)Musk Explains Why He’s Rebranding Twitter to X (CNBC) (40:16)The Toast with Jackie (@JackieOshry) and Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob) The Camper and The Counselor by Jackie OshryMerchThe Toast PatreonGirl With No Job by Claudia OshrySee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast. Happy Monday. Hope everybody had an amazing weekend. Today is such a special day. I am still down here in Florida, and I needed a co-host. And honestly, there's nobody better, nobody greater. Our older sister, Olivia, is here joining me. Hey, Liv.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Hi, thank you so much for having me. You know what's so funny? It's like people don't know me. Yes, well, we have so many new toasters. Yeah. And you haven't been on the toast in quite a minute. The last time you were on the toast, I don't even think you were a mom of two yet.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Were you? So the last time I was on the toast was audio when you were at Stagecoach. Yes. So I don't know how much that counts, even though I know you have a significant amount of podcast listeners. So it definitely counts.
Starting point is 00:00:41 But the last time I was video, both of you were still in the New York studio I was still living in New York yep I remember that that was great we have that one photo of you and me which will be like we'll take another one today and it'll be the only photo used for the next like two years yeah that's the thing with Olivia's birthday I can never find a photo that either I don't hate or she doesn't hate yeah so we have that one photo from the last time and today's we'll take a photo after this and hopefully we both love it yes however we did decide yesterday in the car that we're over that like toxic we did we had that conversation I used to be absolutely crazy about it like I was one of the first people like when
Starting point is 00:01:12 Facebook came out that like I had to approve my tag photos and I just want to say like I'm done with that like if I look bad in a photo you can go fuck yourselves for talking about me behind my back you know we used to be so crazy. Like when we would take family photos, all four of us, we would have to like pass the phone around to edit it. We were so mean. And you know what? Like,
Starting point is 00:01:30 I think that's part of growing up. Like just fuck it. Like it's so exhausting to care so much, care so much. And I just like, I don't care anymore. No, I care.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I do, but not at the scale that I did. Yeah. I care, but like really not as much as I used to. I'm sorry. I just feel like I talk so loud, you know, by the way. So this is a problem we not at the scale that I did. Yeah. You know? I care, but like really not as much as I used to. I'm sorry. I just feel like I talk so loud, you know? By the way, so this is a problem we have at The Toast.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I talk so fucking loud. Yeah. And Jackie talks like a normal person. Oh, okay. Because she's like a quiet little girl. She's lovely. So my audio is always louder than Jackie's, but you're loud too. So today we're just going to bust the speakers, bust the windows out your car, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:03 I bust my windows out. Are you know are you a glee fan I am but you know I I watched glee like when it was on and then I stopped like when I went to college because it was like you were too old yeah I'm I never stopped you know what's so funny like you I feel like we talk about this every time you come on the toast because we end up talking about Bravo and you really invented Bravo in the family. Like I remember when we were really young, you were watching like Jill's Aaron and that's how I started getting into it. But now I know you don't watch it anymore, but like what are you obsessed with pop culture
Starting point is 00:02:35 wise? Like I am a Gleek, you know, I'm a Twifty. I love Twilight. Like I have my things. What are your things? I know you're like a mom of two now. So you obviously have, you know, like priorities beyond Twilight. I am Alex Earl obsessed. You are. Yes? I know you're like a mom of two now. So you obviously have, you know, like priorities beyond Twilight. I am Alex Earl obsessed.
Starting point is 00:02:46 You are. Yes, I am. I just love, like I live for her. Tell me why. Because you want to like, even though she's like the most like gorgeous creature with the sickest body, like I really just resonate with that, like going out, getting drunk, like, like just like that vibe. Like I was that person.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And when you're in it, you feel like you're never not going to be it. But now I'm so not it that it just like it gives me like beautiful nostalgia for it. You know, that's a really good way of pointing it. That's like when they say, you know, you don't know that those are the days until the days are over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm really like obsessed with her. And like, I'm just not like into things that people are obsessed with.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, I do not watch Vanderpump Rules I am like personally boycotting the new Rahoni for so many reasons like I just cannot get behind this stuff but there will be select things that you'll be like Olivia I think you'd really like this like the first season of Salt Lake Real Housewives I really enjoyed that and I think it's because like I just really love the state of Utah like we've always had wonderful times being there um and I just liked that newness vibe um but yeah no I'm I'm into wait I'm sorry you said like you trust my opinion if I say like Olivia okay I will watch Young Sheldon okay Olivia will not fucking watch Young Sheldon you put it on and I was watching it like I was enjoying it but it's just like here's the thing it's like I'm not like sitcom girly like
Starting point is 00:04:03 I don't watch Friends I don't watch The Office like what I'm looking for is not something with like 12 seasons that's like syndicated and on for forever I'm looking for like murder mystery gonna find out in the last episode after eight was part of this limited series that like the whodunit done it no I get it I get it but will you trust me that like I'm your sister I love you I know you and I know what's good for you and Young Sheldon is good for you I'm not resisting it's just not the priority for probably like today or this week but that doesn't necessarily mean like like next month starts August so like it could be the priority for the month you know okay I just I just know you and Zach will love it and it's family-friendly Kayla can watch it too yeah no no listen like I'm not
Starting point is 00:04:43 not down you know yeah so for anyone who's new here Olivia is our older sister she's the you know she's in charge of us she always has been in charge of us um except some of us just can't be managed but she tries um you're a mom of two I am Michaela and Levi like the absolute apples of my eye and I really wanted to give everyone an update because whenever I come down here I pretty much sit on the podcast and like talk about how Michaela will not acknowledge me I like give her so much love I'm obsessed with her and I just want her to reciprocate that and she's like the sweetest little girl to everyone except for me now I think you guys are the same person yes we are like we have a lot of like toxic chaotic energy totally so I wanted to give everyone an update because I've been here now for like five
Starting point is 00:05:21 days and it's it's a different girl Michaela is you agree like obsessed with me she's obsessed with you yeah and she kind of like always was but like you guys like to toy with each other you know like Antiqua no is like because she loves the attention from Antiqua I know but it was not she was not like playing with me she just really didn't like me and I don't know what it was maybe she's just grown up a little bit maybe I'm a little bit more calm I mean I'm not but we have had such a fabulous like I don't know when I'm leaving but when I do like I will never leave I will cry I will cry I know Michaela and I were so connected and we never were and it's just I mean like you fully got in her bed I got in her bed and she didn't like cry she let me lay in her bed with
Starting point is 00:06:02 her yeah she lets me take pictures of her we have like little photo shoots on my camera when she dresses up like it's just it's been such a delight and I just honestly wanted to bring you on here to say thank you for giving birth to literally the queeniest queen who ever queened thank you so much yeah she's pretty epic she's such like I think everybody got a little glimpse of her in your tiktok when you're like I want to address something and she's like I want to dress too she's so girly she loves dress she loves bell she literally hysterically cried this morning because I would not put her back in her bell costume I'm like it's Monday morning like you cannot wear a bell costume she also cried last night when I got her ready for bed she wanted to sleep in her bell costume yeah I think maybe we have to get her more costumes because she's
Starting point is 00:06:39 only wearing the bell by the way she does have other costumes like she has an Elsa and then she has like this other one that's kind of like garden fairy vibes and like when she's into something like she's into it like there's just no other way we're so similar like when she becomes obsessed with something I know thanks to me I got her obsessed with high school musical you did but like that kind of ship has sailed right now no when I got here she got in bed with me I'm like what do you want to watch she said high school musical well because I think that's like your thing now but she's like actually my kids are super, like Levi especially, he's the cutest little muffin man in the world,
Starting point is 00:07:10 obsessed with like 1950s musicals. So like we're really having like a Bye Bye Birdie moment right now, singing in the rain. Like we listen to Bye Bye Birdie in the car. Kayla's like, we love you, Conrad. My bedroom wall, I share a wall with Kayla's bedroom and we put her to bed and I'm like what I'm laying in bed with Ben like turning down for the night and this is what I hear we love you Conrad oh yes we do it is the cutest thing but like the highest
Starting point is 00:07:37 decibel possible also similar to you we're simpatico you are you are so Olivia's gonna join me for the fast five today we've got actually very good stories um I threw a little business news in there because Olivia is our resident marketing girl like Olivia knows everything about like you know business so she's going to give us some advice actually she's going to give Elon Musk some advice so I think without further do that do that do it is time for the fast five stories that you need to know today's episode of the toast is brought to you by caraway caraway cookware is non-toxic and it's chemical free so you can fill your summer with your favorite recipes without any worry caraway makes cookware with the convenience
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Starting point is 00:11:20 And I keep learning more information about it But I really want to talk about it Cardi B throws a microphone at a concert goer who tossed a drink at her while performing in Las Vegas. So I feel like we all saw the clip, but if you didn't, during an outdoor set at a beach club in Vegas, the Grammy winner became the latest musician to be targeted with items thrown at them during a performance. So in a now viral video of the incident, Cardi can be seen wearing an orange dress during
Starting point is 00:11:41 the performance and looking surprised when a drink is thrown in her direction while performing Bodak Yellow. In response, Cardi threw her microphone at the front row attendee, whose security seemingly escorted away. After the incident, the rapper tweeted a different video of the angle, which shows a clearer view of the fan attempting to throw their cup at Cardi B, who reportedly continued to her performance after the mic toss. Yeah. So, um.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So many thoughts. So many thoughts. Okay. So, um, so many thoughts, so many thoughts. Okay. My initial thought, I was like, you know what? Good. Fuck around and find out bitch.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Like we live in this age where people are so entitled when it comes to celebrities, BB Rexha, Kelsey Ballerini. Like we've, we see it all the time. And I feel like as a performer, you're,
Starting point is 00:12:22 you know, you're taught of course to never respond. The customer's always right. Bullshit like that. And you know what? know, you're taught of course to never respond. The customer's always right. Bullshit like that. And you know what? No, you're going to throw something at me, bitch. I'm going to throw something at you. Now, of course, Cardi's, you know, weapon was a lot heavier and more painful, I think
Starting point is 00:12:37 than a cup of liquid. But you know what? Like the other girl started it. So at first I was like, you know what? Cardi B. Well, there's a lot of things to unpack here because I watched like 45,000 different angles of this last night and I learned a couple of things and I think it's important to share yeah number one apparently at some point during the earlier on earlier was it earlier yes okay she said like spray me basically like you
Starting point is 00:13:00 know like she she told people to like uh splash her i think she said to splash her pussy like yes yes i think it was and by the way there's a big difference between hair and face and pussy i just want to say yes of course yeah but when i saw that i'm like oh come on like then you're opening the door for people to throw stuff at you yes and i feel like when you're a performer in this day and age like that's just a big no-no like i would never you know i think all performers would agree like never encourage that because, okay, someone throws a cup, next thing they throw their shoe. You're opening the door.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So once I saw that, I was a little less on Cardi's side. I'm like, oh, yikes. Because the girl was doing pretty much exactly what Cardi asked her to do. Yeah, I think it's a classic case of it's Teresa Giudice flip switch. I just think actually something happened and she reacted like and that's almost why like I feel right in the middle of this like I feel like I can really identify with both sides but I feel like it's something it reminds me of that time when you me and Ben I think we were in AC and like you splashed the milk at me and like you thought it
Starting point is 00:14:01 was so funny but it's like my god do you know how you react like you just react because like something happened and like your brain can't process it fast enough olivia you just unpacked like the craziest memory i have to tell the story i can't wait till you gas like the fuck out of me and tell the story no i i think i would tell it accurately we were in atlantic city i think we were in the hotel room right in the hotel room and you know they had like that coffee machine with those little creamers that are in those little tiny, um, like cup things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And I was thinking like, if I just squeeze the bottom of this cup, like all the creamer will explode. And I was like, I'm going to do it. And you were like, don't do it. And I was like, I'm going to do it. And you said, don't do it. And I did it. I got creamer in your hair and you.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Well, the creamer was expired and it smelled like donkey. Okay. And I literally. She flipped. I flipped. I flipped. But by the way, and it's like, you And I literally. She flipped. I flipped. But by the way, and it's like you just react because something happened, you know? By the way, I totally understand like the most. That wasn't even what I did.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Can you talk about the real part of the story that's the hilarious part? Like she was lip syncing because the music kept going. So there was like a, that's what a lot of people aren't talking about is like the second she threw the microphone, she obviously couldn't sing anymore. And the track kept going. Although I do think that's actually a very common thing for rappers to do is to sing or to rap over their tracks. Cause there's like background. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I saw some people talking about that too. Honestly, I don't really care. I don't care either. I'm just trying to, I like, I watched so many different videos of this that I was just trying. Cause like, you know, when she threw the microphone, she didn't actually hit the girl who threw the cup. Like she hit somebody else. So then that's another level of like party kind of being in the wrong because she hit the wrong girl and then this innocent girl gets a
Starting point is 00:15:30 big-ass microphone thrown at her yeah and somebody said she has a single coming out so she's just looking for a headline like i saw that there's really a lot a lot tiktok is where you get the news and the girl who threw the cup like the second she released it saw cardi get mad and said i'm sorry i'm sorry i know i saw that too like it wasn't malicious cardi like i'm sorry cardi did open the door so like i was ready to come on here and be like love this yeah because i think like what i would love to do to the guy who threw his phone at bb rexa like right choke right so like finally someone else getting it in return but like i don't think this girl was the one to get who deserved it i know i agree with that and i think also yeah i know
Starting point is 00:16:06 it's the more we learn the more we learn like and you have to keep learning that's the thing you have to keep fucking learning you have to keep learning it's like you can't just take the video at face value like even when you're ready you're like i'm sure we all saw the video now but like the video would that video even stand up in court no no let me you know what because it's circumstantial right sure it's circumstantial yeah um so yeah i think you know i'm not on team cardi even though like and i'm not not on team cardi do you know what i mean yeah because like i totally understand a video of when she said splash my pussy i think i just wanted to say pussy on the toes i just say pussy on the toast
Starting point is 00:16:39 all the time i think we need to go back and see that then and like did people splash like what happened people did splash when she when she asked them to okay and see that then. And like, did people splash? Like what happened then? People did splash when she, when she asked them to. Okay. But like that part of the show was over and the girl didn't get the memo. Right. But, but, but Cardi opened the door. Like. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I'm saying like. Sound off in the comments. Are you team Cardi or team girl? Let us know. Okay. Next story. I know you're obsessed with this story. I probably would have chosen it anyway, but I specifically chose it for you.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Thank you. Lisa Hochstein. She is slamming her estranged husband, Lenny, for getting engaged to his mistress while still married. So Lisa Hochstein sarcastically congratulated her estranged husband, Lenny Hochstein, and his mistress, Katerina Mazepa, on their engagement. So Lenny revealed that he popped the question
Starting point is 00:17:22 to his girlfriend of one year. He is 57. She is 27. Despite being legally married to lisa still and lisa then took to instagram shared his post and wrote congrats to my current husband and his mistress on their engagement then she also slammed lenny's mom so lenny's mom had left a comment on his engagement post and wrote i will be very happy that this time you are getting a woman who loves and respects you. You certainly did not have that in your previous marriage. Good luck. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's what Lisa's mother-in-law, Lenny's mom, had commented. And Lisa shared her comment and wrote, what a wonderful mother-in-law and grandmother. How disgusting. Yeah. And that's the thing about this that I do not like, which is like, there are kids involved. And yeah. You know, like, it's like they have two young kids the dad the parents are still married they're having a very contentious divorce the dad obviously he had an affair yeah and this is the woman he had an affair right and
Starting point is 00:18:15 then you just like run off into the sunset before like you have you know settled and it's just 1000% wrong it's and it's like what's the rush what's the well he is 57 and she's just 1000% wrong. It's so. And it's like, what's the rush? What's the rush? Well, he is 57 and she's 27. So maybe there's that. Two. But like, they can still have a baby
Starting point is 00:18:29 and like not get, do you know what I mean? Like, it's just so disrespectful. It really is. To get engaged while you're still married and you have kids.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And then grandma, fuck off grandma. Like, what are you doing? Grandma's a bitch. Because that lives on forever and the kids grow up. It's now a news story.
Starting point is 00:18:49 They see it. Their last name is Hochstein. They Google they google themselves it's like what the fuck are you doing no it's so true grandma was being a wench yeah and no they were just like looking for headlines and i just hate people like that no like by the way i actually understand people who are looking for headlines i hope to be one of those people myself one day yeah but for doing something positive at the expense of your own family. Like that's where I draw the line. Like that's so like evil. And that's just the crazy thing about divorce is that like. Yeah, you really see sides of people that you didn't even know could possibly exist.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Not only that, but like you will find yourself doing like the lowest of the low things to somebody who you would have at one point taken a bullet for. Yeah. You know, I think the thing that is really interesting about this and one of the things that is interesting about reality TV, although I don't always partake, I do love Love is Blind. That is the one that I like. I just felt like I needed to say that.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You're such a Bartice girl. How dare you? How dare you? I'm actually like not a fan of anybody that's ever been on the show. I think they're all actually horrible. What about the Hamiltons? Except for them, yes. And what about Amber and Barnett?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I feel like you love them. I just can't believe that they're still together, but they weird to me No because you want to know why like love wins Like they loved each other Yeah they did except he also like loved another girl or two But he didn't like she was crazy I don't know if we as a like country Will ever be as unified as we were During season one of Love is Blind
Starting point is 00:20:01 No 100% I can't remember And those are the relationships that I think are the strongest yeah of course i also just can't remember a time where like everyone was talking about this one thing more than we were during season one of love is blind maybe white lotus but that's it yeah but there were even people who like didn't watch white lotus like yeah i don't know a single person who didn't watch love is blind totally shapiro is obsessed obsessed beyond belief because it's like a circus it's a circus. It's a freak show. It's a freak show. And it's the best TV.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And the people that are going on now just want to get famous. And my favorite thing about it is like they don't get that famous. Like that Chicago crew is the worst. All those girls went on because they wanted to be famous. And now they all like have fake podcasts together. And like nobody cares about them. And it's like if you go on the show, like the first one was such a true experiment. And nobody really knew what was happening happening and now the rest of these people
Starting point is 00:20:46 just try to play the game nobody knew that it was going to turn into like this global phenomenon that the people who were like the stars of season one would end up becoming like actually famous yeah and there's a lot of talk about lauren and cameron maybe um taking taking over yeah vanessa lachey's job i'd be here for that. Me too. They're like true celebrities. Yeah. And now that people know that that's a possibility, the amount of, the group of people you're going to get applying for the show is just different.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Different, totally. But you were making a point about Lisa and Lenny. You said. The point that I was making was, and we learned this with the Richards sisters, is like anything that is going to be uncovered is uncovered when you're on reality tv right you can't hide anything and like lisa and lenny i did not watch but from what i read in the daily
Starting point is 00:21:29 mail like their divorce played out on the show and everybody i think unanimously took lisa's side right like of course people saw what was happening so i mean he was caught he was caught on a hot mic during the season like right before they announced their divorce and he was just like talking shit he was like i'm getting the fuck out season, like right before they announced their divorce. And he was just like talking shit. He was like, Oh, I'm getting the fuck out of here. Like I'm seeing someone.
Starting point is 00:21:47 He brought his mistress into the house while Lisa was wearing a microphone. Like it was actually the footage they got on Miami housewives was crazy. So like, so that, and then he takes it a step further to get engaged while they're still married. And it's like the mom, his mom is then going to go and try and do you know what i mean like we've
Starting point is 00:22:06 now seen that lisa is a stand-up galley right she puts the kids first she did the right thing in her marriage no skeletons have come out about lisa and what she did behind the scenes and then y'all are gonna keep doing this it's you know what i mean like it's like if she did something negative in the relationship if she was cheating on him if she was nasty to him if she didn't put the kids like all would feel like he has something to be mad like he would have a reason it would have come out and he would like he's doing all of this why yeah he doesn't want to be married to lisa anymore okay you can still act with dignity like yeah you're right and then give her a proper divorce and move on nothing has been uncovered about them you're so about her
Starting point is 00:22:43 yeah so it's like why are you doing all this just because you're mean like it's giving mean girl yeah it's giving mean girl and grandma really it's giving mean grandma because grandma should know her privileges like i don't know how do you keep your kids around someone toxic like that yeah no grandma should know better too like you're supposed to be older and wiser and she was i mean i watched the first season of miami because you know i'm og bravo when they did the live reunion the best and if you've never seen it you should just go watch it because adriana demora is a queen of her mind but olivia she's still on now and she's so fucking insufferable was crazy i could see that og seasons she was my favorite yeah she's horrible yeah well people change. People change. Lenny Hochstein. Right. So net net, Team Lisa all the way.
Starting point is 00:23:27 And honestly, I just in situations like this, I just feel so terrible for the kids. Of course. And that's how I'm feeling. No, and divorce is bad. I think, you know, no matter what. Especially because the kids are young and divorce is bad. And they live in my I don't you know, like Miami is such a tight knit community. I feel like the kids going to school, like it's just all drama.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And why do young kids need that? No, I mean, divorce is terrible for kids, I think at any age, but when there's the element of like things being on the internet, living like existing forever, it's just really sad. And you need to,
Starting point is 00:23:56 when you're in the spotlight, like you need to do better for your kids and you need to act right. And Lenny and his mom are acting wrong. They're acting 100% wrong. And grandma's a wench. All right. Our next story is kind of about our co-host, which is really crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Harry Styles flashes a new tattoo. And it says Olivia. And I just want to know, like, when are you going to tell Shapiro about your man? Like, really uncool of you. Harry Styles has been spotted with a tattoo believed to be a dedication to his ex-girlfriend, Olivia Wilde. In photos obtained by Page Six, the former 1D singer can be seen flashing the tattoo on a boat in italy on friday so he shows off what appears to be the word olivia inked in italic on his thigh the word
Starting point is 00:24:34 collasione which is italian for breakfast also appeared to be inked on his leg it's unclear if there's any connection between the tattoos but it literally says olivia and then like underneath it it says but there's like six inches there's like six inches of space i don't believe that they are related related well so i have a couple questions on this like have we ever seen this part of his thigh before to like know that this is super nail that's a good question he is wearing the tiniest bathing suit anyone's ever seen like yeah it's like i could see his penis bones and then i could see like super now? That's a good question. He is wearing the tiniest bathing suit anyone's ever seen. Like, yeah, it's like, I could see his penis bones and then I could see like his pubes.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's a really tiny bathing suit. Very European. Very. So I don't know. I'm sure that historically, like in the summer, he's been on vacation. He's always getting paparazzi'd on yachts.
Starting point is 00:25:17 We would have noticed if this was there before. It's definitely new. Because they have that song, Wendy, something about Olivia. So it's like maybe there is. No, that's the John Mayer song. No, there's an Olivia. No, they have a different song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But something about Olivia is John May like maybe there that's the John Mayer song no there's a
Starting point is 00:25:25 different song yeah but something about Olivia is John Mayer okay what's the 1D I live for you I long for you Olivia hey okay so maybe there's an Olivia's life that we don't know about it's a testament okay they like they it's me they didn't write their own songs back in the day like those 1D songs actually don't have any meaning to any of the guys like they were part of a machine you know it's horrible do you ever see their documentary I don't have any meaning to any of the guys. Like they were part of a machine, you know? That's horrible. Do you ever see their documentary? I don't think so. But honestly, I would enjoy watching that. It's one of the best.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Don't get me started on my celebrity documentary, Tyra. Everybody's heard it enough. But like, that's a really good one. It's a really good one. I actually, I love a documentary. So what's your favorite celebrity documentary? Um, I don't know, actually. I feel like you liked Amy.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I loved Amy. Yeah. And I love her i i feel like i can't it's too much pressure right now to like think right off the top of my head that's not a thing you have but i heard the jelly roll one is really good did you see it no it's on hulu i actually would watch that yeah his story is very interesting very interesting and i like his wife yeah she's a podcaster is she they've been together for like before he was famous yeah no i know he was like in jail and i believe he was homeless and he had a kid and they met and she like got him an apartment
Starting point is 00:26:29 and was like listen yeah i don't know if we're gonna be together forever so we're watching tonight yeah by the way totally 100 we'll let you know tomorrow jelly roll on the toast yeah um so harry styles has a tattoo the girl who clearly represents the tattoo is no longer in his life do you remove the tattoo do you remove the tattoo no I think a lot I mean I don't have any tattoos so tattoo community don't come for me but I feel like people get tattoos and even if it's no longer representative of them at that moment in time it was at one point and tattoos are almost like it's like memorializing elements of your life that yeah it doesn't have to be like does pete davidson still have kim as my lawyer no oh well that's and he doesn't have kim's doesn't make my point but and he doesn't have remember he got kid
Starting point is 00:27:14 the kids letters he got like n i think if you're like gonna get a tattoo and you're not like committed to going all the way despite the fact that like it might not be your future forever you should probably not get it no but that's the thing with tattoo culture now is like when you have a bunch of tattoos like you can get them changed he changed the kim is my lawyer one you can cover it you can change it you can add different letters that's like lala kent had rand forever randall emmett and then he ended up being like the horriblest human and she changed it to brand new. Love that for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So it was like, there are ways. So now I feel like tattoos as also with tattoo removal, like it's not as like crazy to do. Like I believe, you know, remember when Ariana got like Pete Davidson's dad's FDNY, like shield on her foot.
Starting point is 00:27:57 No, but okay. I believe it's long gone. It's either been covered or removed. What's up with like people that Pete Davidson tattoo community is its own little orb. It's so true. But I agree that I think some people use their bodies as like storyboards for their life.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And so you don't have to get it removed. A hundred percent. Maybe they ended amicably and he can acknowledge that that was like an important relationship in his life. And I think that's very mature of him. And it seems like something that would like, that seems like his personality. Yeah. He's like so like, you know, emotive.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. Like he's not like bitter Lenny Hox Dinas. So Harry would never. Never. Now, we don't have any tattoos because we're two Jewish queens. But if you were to get a tattoo, do you ever think about like what you would get? Like, no, but I guess we could like think about it here, you know? I've thought about it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. And I would get the word because I feel like you would say I get my kids, but like you could have more kids than you have to update the tattoo Right So it would need to be Something all encompassing Like and what's so important To us family
Starting point is 00:28:49 I would get Mishpacha Cute Maybe on my forehead I was just gonna say Where would you put it Maybe connecting my eyebrows To give me one long eyebrow
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I would support that And what would you get Have you thought about Like what you would get For a tattoo No But like I think placement Is so interesting
Starting point is 00:29:04 You know You would get it Above your ass crack obviously obviously um and then like i don't know i feel like people do like sorry i don't i don't want to show my feet what you want to get it on your feet no you know like people do like a little like ankle or toe or like here the new thing is doing like tiny micro tattoos on your fingers that's what like all like haley bieber has i have a friend that instead of wearing like a wedding ring, he has like a ring tattooed. And I think that that's very lovely. Yeah. His name is Shingy.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like people know him. And you can never take it off. Yeah. And so you have to be married for life. I think Ben should do that. Yeah. I really think it's actually very sweet. That is a sweet one.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah. So I highly recommend going to look at these photos of Harry Styles. Not because of the tattoo, because honestly, who cares? But it's such a teeny tiny bathing suit. Like, look at that. I mean, he was not interested in having tan lines. And I respect that. And I just think everybody should go take a look at that because it's definitely important, you know, for society.
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Starting point is 00:31:19 off their first order by going to vegamore.com slash toast and using code toast at checkout. That's V-E-G-A-M-O-Uamore.com slash toast and using code toast at checkout that's v-e-g-a-m-o-u-r dot com slash toast code toast to save 20 off your first order vegamore.com slash toast code toast our next story is a little bit more uh celebrity drama Teresa Giudice is calling Sofia Vergara the rudest celebrity she's ever met so she said that Sofia Vergara is the rudest celebrity she ever met during a latest podcast episode of hers she was chatting with her co-host and she recalled an incident from 2017 where Vergara allegedly appeared reluctant to take a picture
Starting point is 00:31:54 with the reality star backstage at a talk show and Teresa argued that Vergara should be nice because she's a Vergara I just felt like I needed to be Jackie in that Teresa argued that Sofia Vergara should be nice because she's quote an immigrant what yeah so Sofia Vergara. I just felt like I needed to be Jackie in that moment. Teresa argued that Sofia Vergara should be nice because she's, quote, an immigrant. What? Yeah. So Sofia Vergara, this is what she said, quote, Sofia Vergara's PR person and my PR person spoke together. And I guess the two of them said, let's get a picture of Teresa and Sofia together.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I didn't want to take a picture with her. I've never asked to take a picture with anybody. She's the rudest woman I've ever met. She goes on. I saw her whole demeanor and then i heard her say to her pr person why are you making me take a picture with that lady i was like excuse me i did not want to take a picture with you i never asked to take a picture with you she further claimed i was like how rude you're so not humble you're not a humble person you forgot where you
Starting point is 00:32:39 came from it's not like she started out like being on the top she forgot where she came from she's so not a down-to-earth person that's what she said um and i just have a question about i have so many questions about this yeah like of course everyone should be nice and let's say for argument's sake sofia regar was not nice you know immigrants can be whatever they want like i don't know why she had to bring immigration into this a hundred percent and like isn't she an immigrant too from italy her and her husband ex-husband no i think she was born here actually that's a good question because he got deported can you not can you only get deported if you're not from here i i would i guess like you can't get deported why not where would you be deported too no you're
Starting point is 00:33:24 right you can't you can only get deported if you're? Where would you be deported to? No, you're right. You can't. You can only get deported if you're not from here. Yeah. So her husband, ex-husband, father of her children. And then she's talking about her mouth. And by the way, I think the amount of people who have, you know, negative interactions with Teresa Giudice.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So this is what I was going to say. I have like a decent amount of experience with like talent. Right. And I think in situations like that, like where the PR people are just like pushing you around to take photos, this and that, like you don't actually know what's going on no and Sophia is so fine to be like why are you making me take a picture with that lady I'm sure Sophia Vergara has no fucking idea no idea and maybe she wanted the context right like so that's not a crazy thing to ask no and I think also this is a classic case of like perception not being reality right so like
Starting point is 00:34:00 did Teresa hear her say that or did she like see her mouth move and then like assume that she said that like this is like a non-situation that she's making seem like Sofia Vergara wasn't nice to her and like maybe she was cold but like it's not like I don't know she splashed water on her at a concert like it's not the same it's literally the um it's ego I didn't want a picture with you but you wanted a picture with me it's like like why are these two even in the same room like where were they in the same room? They were both appearing on a talk show. And so they were both backstage in different green rooms. And the PR people, like, communicated with one another.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It was like, oh, my client, we should get a picture. The PR people need to stop. I know. This is the fault of the PR people. Because honestly, like, why does the world need a picture of Teresa Giudice and Sofia Vergara? We don't. We don't. We absolutely do not.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And there's like, you know, with a lot of people, there's like a six degrees of separation. There's not here. You cannot bring these two together in any way, shape or form. There's no connection. None. None whatsoever. Who is the rudest celebrity you've ever met? That's a really interesting question.
Starting point is 00:34:57 There's this one podcaster, actually. Who? I'm kidding. I was going to say you. Oh, I'm like, wait, what podcasters are you hanging out with? I've had really pleasant experiences with talent actually i am a person that likes to focus on the positive okay you're really not but okay i like to focus on the positive you're actually one of the most negative
Starting point is 00:35:15 people i've ever met including myself like i'm negative too how am i negative you just are like if i came back and like if you went somewhere i'm like oh how was your day like the first thing you would say would be the bad thing like that's not true that's not true all this weekend I said this is the most glorious day you're by the way you were the one that's like oh torch I gotta lay down I am admittedly like a very negative person yeah I don't think that's a bad thing I don't think I'm that negative but honestly like if you think I am I will I think you need a reality I will digest the feedback accept it and move on I think you would definitely like an extremely like negative person. I think extremely is I could be negative.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I don't think I'm extremely. OK, here's my barometer is me. Like I am a negative person and I pale in comparison to you. I think that that's absolutely false. I think you should ask some of our sisters. I absolutely will. And I think that they would say that you're more negative than I am. No, 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I'm putting it in the scenes chat. Yeah. And hopefully they'll answer while we are live these are lies I came on here what would you say is a more negative person question mark me or Olivia question mark oh none of that went through who would you say is a more negative person question mark me or Olivia I'm still trying to think about my most negative celebrity encounter okay I really I think you should just be totally honest no I sent it all right I'll let you know if they respond
Starting point is 00:36:32 yeah who's your most um negative celebrity encounter my one I always say but like I've really moved on from it Hilary Duff I heard she's awesome Ben said she's so great I know yeah and I think maybe like my experience with her was like truly maybe you were the theresa judice and she was the sofia vergara i mean i was literally 16 and all i wanted was a photo with her and she told me like stop following her around yeah i was never the type of person that i'm like if i saw a celebrity i'm like i need a photo with you or i need your autograph you know who's the first celebrity you ever met in person oh my god i don't even know oh i know who it was we tell the story all the time veronica's the veronica's yeah but they like weren't even celebrities but like they were
Starting point is 00:37:09 to us they were yeah um i think they were shocked that like anybody cared about that yeah two people came up and there was four of us yeah came up and asked for a photo i don't know i really don't know that's such a great question i know so many of my memories are like so deeply buried you know it would really like take, I don't know. It's trauma repression. It's trauma repression. I don't remember anything.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Nothing. When I was an intern though, um, one of my jobs was like basically being like a butler for talent. Like I would just come in and be like, do you want drinks? Whatever. Yeah. And there were like really famous people, um, there like you, you worked there too. Who do we meet then then we met everyone like from reality stars to A-list actors oh yeah I don't even know but like every day it was like somebody
Starting point is 00:37:51 hella famous yeah Salma Hayek yeah yeah yeah no I'm saying even before that I worked um I feel like people don't even know this when I was at NYU I interned for Nanette Lepore for one semester do you know what that is wait they answered me what'd they say I'm in shock yeah it's you I mean they both said me thank you Margo said you and Jackie said oh that's tough you what thank you you're delusional you need a reality check I'm in shock I'm in shock yeah you're the one that actually needs to get up oh my god you are so negative i'll stand by that okay and by the way nobody's saying that i'm not negative you're just um very much more and i said that the word extremely was the wrong word to use i just negative i feel like i'm i'm such a ray of light like what are you guys talking about like i think that your negativity is a ray
Starting point is 00:38:41 of light because it's comedy it's funny yeah no but like i'm always thinking about how much i wish i was someone else just so i could hang out with me like i'm a ray of light i'm a delight i'm just because you're obsessed with yourself doesn't mean that you're not i'm not i'm not saying i'm obsessed with myself i say like i always make every situation fun i'm always it doesn't mean that you're not negative though no it does like i'm a literal ray of light because people who are like uber positive can be like super fucking annoying to be around toxic positivity is a real thing yeah you and your like verbs for things like trauma repression no it's actually an amazing point you need like a dictionary of like these words that you like describe i'm like a woke internet user like i
Starting point is 00:39:20 have a word for everything okay trauma repressionuma repression is real. I know it is. Are you trying to silence the victims of trauma repression? I can't even respond to that. I am a victim of trauma repression. I can't believe everybody said I'm negative. I'm really not. I'm honestly feeling so vindicated. I wish my phone was in my hand, too, so I could just say, big thank you to Jackie and Margo.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I'm in shock. They both said me. Why are you in shock? Because you're so negative. I know in shock. They both said me. Why are you in shock? Because you're so negative. I know, but like I'm second to you. You don't even, you can't even see your own shadow, girlfriend. No, but like, okay, maybe that's something I need to work on because. Right, and I said I would accept and digest the feedback from you. And now you should accept and digest the feedback from your sisters.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I can't. Like I refuse to accept it. I'm not believing it. What is that called? Being like. Denial? Negative dancing. I refuse to accept it.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm not believing it. What is that called? Being like. Denial. Negative Nancy. No, it's like denialism or superioristically. Okay, should we go into our fifth and final story? It's called being like a denial supremacist. No, it's a hunchback who can't see his own hunch.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Totally. Totally. All right. What's the story even about? Oh, it's Teresa Giudicea judice oh yeah so i'm just saying i'm team sofia obviously and why you got to bring immigration into it yeah and you know i'm just i i said it at the top of the show because it really like there is something called like the derisha theresa judice flip switch and nobody flip switches more than her it's true true. Like if you watch Housewives, like you know that Teresa's perception of reality is so warped.
Starting point is 00:40:49 She like, so I have a feeling this entire interaction went a totally different way, but this is how she received it. So while I'm here and just to like get educated, what is going on with Teresa and Melissa? And like, how are they both going to be on the same show? Well, so that's the thing. It got really bad at the end of last season, like fighting about everything.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Teresa's new man. He went into business with Joe. Then it got bad. And then Joe hired him. Louie, the boy, the new man hired a private investigator, Bo Deedle. Like it was really, really bad. And they were like, Teresa was like, I will never film with you again. Blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 So everyone was like, all right, Melissa is obviously going to get fired. And now they're, I think they're about to start picking up. And I believe they're all back so i don't know and this is what i'm talking about with like you can't go on reality tv and like keep anything under the covers like it just doesn't stay there yeah because these people need to make a living and they make a living by exposing theirs and other people's secrets so team lisa to bring it all back all right our fifth and final story is a little tech biz news you know last week elon musk was tweeting and explaining that twitter is going to be rebranded it's going to be called x um the logo is going to change the name is going to change
Starting point is 00:41:56 and honestly like people were freaking but i'm like this is just elon being elon like i didn't think like for a second that this was actually going to happen. But on my phone now, I have X. Yeah. It really went through and he is explaining himself to CNBC. He said Twitter was acquired by X Corp, both to ensure freedom of speech and as an accelerant for X, the everything app. So this is not simply a company renaming itself, but it's doing the same thing. The Twitter name made sense when it was just 140 character messages going back and forth like birds tweeting but now you can post almost anything including
Starting point is 00:42:29 several hours of video in the months to come we will add a comprehensive communication and the ability to conduct your entire financial world the twitter name does not make sense in that context so we must bid adieu to the bird so let me just say like his explanation actually makes sense like the platform isn't tweet anymore like you're not saying dumb little thoughts it's much more concise you can write essays I totally get it you can live stream whatever having said that like I just think this is bad marketing like to get your your the name of your product to be so integrated into culture like tweet like everyone it's just so yeah what's what yeah but what's the word I'm looking for? Ubiquitous. Ubiquitous.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Thank you. So I just feel like to give that up is so dumb. Yeah. What do you think? I have a couple thoughts because I agree. Like when I first heard it, I'm like, hmm. And there were a couple of things that like from me, from like more of like a marketing communications background, I just think the rollout was so shitty, you know, where it's
Starting point is 00:43:20 like, OK, if you saw like I saw a bunch of tweets about this where the main Twitter logo changed to X, but all their other official Twitter accounts like Twitter sports are still the bird. So it's like they should have like really packaged it up. Twitter sports, right? Yeah. Like they they didn't change everything all at once. And if you're saying that you're going to build this super app, which like that's what I want to get into, it's like and the financial of it all wouldn't have made sense.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Well then like launch a new feature or a new product where like Twitter in that context wouldn't have made sense. And then do the rebrand there. Like, I don't necessarily agree with the meta rebrand of it all, but like they really went deep into web three when they did the meta announcement. So like it was combined together.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I think the one thing that everybody's trying to solve for, which I think Facebook originally tried to do and they weren't doing successfully, is like pretty much like in China, like there's one app and everybody uses like one app for everything, right? Oh. A super app instead of having like a million apps like we have here. And I think what Elon is trying to do is he's trying to recreate that here. And I feel like other people have tried to do it and tried to.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And Amazon, I think to some extent, has some elements of it because like they have whole foods they're launching health care you can buy anything in the world that you need online they have home shopping you can be a seller on there and run a business right like but there's an element of social media that's missing from amazon which is the core part of the super app in China isn't that what Instagram's been trying to do though since day one because every time like they had a good idea it became popular for posting photos and then Snapchat stories were a thing so they became Snapchat stories then TikTok became a thing so then they just started doing reels they like stole everyone's idea in the hopes that like and just in the context of social media yeah I'm saying
Starting point is 00:45:00 just social media yeah I would say Instagram is definitely like a super media so like a social media super app is it yeah yeah it's like a tongue twister I didn't know super app but they didn't like combine everything else together like Facebook owns so many different things plus with their web3 investments oculus whatsapp like if they brought whatsapp and instagram do you know what I mean all in one like that starts to create the vibe of a super app so I think that's what Elon is trying to do. I just don't know if here in the US, like we're going to operate that way. We're just like not those sort of people. Like people are very brand loyal.
Starting point is 00:45:32 They feel like very definitively about the things that they care about. They use this app. They use this streaming service. Like think about how many streamers we have. Like 15,000, you know, it's not like one super streamer app. And Americans are also like very passionate. Like, yes. 15 000 you know it's not like one super streamer app and americans are also like very passionate like yes like they know who owns certain apps and they don't want to support zuckerberg or they don't want to support elon so like they'll stop themselves from using apps just because of their own like principles yeah yeah 100 so i think like i feel like that's not a thing i think it's a long
Starting point is 00:45:59 term move that it was done short-sightedly because it needed a full comms plan and it needed a rollout that included elements of a super app. By the way, on X, I was playing around with it. Yeah, and it's like your thought now called an X. Do you know what I mean? When you go to send a tweet on X now, I'm typing something, the button to publish is still called tweet. This is what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:46:21 It's half-assed, you're right. Half-baked. I'm all down for a rebrand and it needs to be very well thought out i don't like the name like oh check x or have you seen what's on x today i know it's hard to fathom but then like once it happens it happens and you like can't imagine life without it you know now that we're like a month or two i forget do you think when they created like go puff they were like go puff it like somebody in a room was probably like that sounds really fucking weird. But now that's what people
Starting point is 00:46:46 say. That's actually a good point. And now that we're like a month out, what are your thoughts on threads? Because I was really excited about it like week of and then probably three days and I completely forgot about it. I haven't checked it since. Same, same, same. I think that's I read somewhere that everyone was freaking like 100 million people signed up the day. I read that after week one, they had a 70% drop. Yeah. Yeah. Because like been there, done that, like it exists in another way. So if it's like, I understand like trying to bring all those things together, but that's not how people use Instagram today. So it's such a big like consumer behavior shift. And so like people get on it because like they want to see what it's
Starting point is 00:47:19 all about, but it's not natural. It's not normal for us. So like, we're not really going to partake in it. So unless I was the exact same way, my tweets were my tweets. My threads were all about like being a hater of the. Yeah, no. And then everyone was like so excited about it. And I genuinely cannot remember the last time I checked it. Yeah. But I was so excited, too, because I loved that it would just import from Instagram.
Starting point is 00:47:38 So I didn't have to build a whole new following. I already had like 200000 followers. I just I think if they had built the functionality into Instagram. So in the feed, you were seeing people's thoughts like again nobody wants another app by the way that's kind of what they tried to do remember when they had like status updates yeah but like the way that was bad that was bad yeah and by the way that lasted for actually all of two minutes by the way it still exists do you have people who put i don't want to call them out but there's two people who i like them both so much they're always fucking doing it i'm like who are you talking to it's time for you to unfollow those people no always fucking doing it. I'm like, who are you talking to?
Starting point is 00:48:05 It's time for you to unfollow those people. No, but I like them. But I'm literally like, who are you talking to? Yeah, yeah. Nobody's looking here. You know, it needed to be integrated in a better way. Yeah. And also like the fact that it was like not threads.com.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Like you have all the money in the world. Instagram, like go relieve that business up there. What do you mean threads.com? It was an app. No, I know. But like when you went to go like online, like they did. Did did you access threads on a website i don't know if you could access it on a website or if it was just like the download the app button here like they didn't own threads.com that's a big mistake big mistake and if you can't some random company that had to put a thing on
Starting point is 00:48:37 their site that said we are not instagram really yeah go look oh my god i didn't see any of this hold on that's so funny if you were threading about threads you would be in the threads threading about threads okay wait threads.com a slack replacement you see the button oh my god yes okay so it's it's a it's a it's a service for businesses it's basically like um slack yeah gchat and it literally has a button on their website we are not associated with instagram. That is so funny. But it's like this business could have like literally probably made like $20 million by selling their dot com. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Right. And they should have just done it. Yeah. They could have just changed like chatthreads.com or whatever. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. No, you know, the thing is, is like we in the US, I think like behave differently than
Starting point is 00:49:21 other, you know, countries and other countries. And yeah, I don't know. I'm a fan of rebrands. in the U S I think like behave differently than other, you know, than other countries. And, um, yeah, I don't know. I'm a fan of rebrands even as like unnecessary as they may be sometimes. Yeah. But it has to be well thought out.
Starting point is 00:49:35 This just like kind of felt like a rush. Like, and that's the thing about Elon a little bit, which I like appreciate also, like he has an idea and it's like, okay, the next day it's done, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:43 it's a little erratic, but I think like having been part of a couple of rebrands like the you have to really turn over every stone and if you're not doing that it's just not going to be a successful rebrand like people need to understand like the way that he has to go on cnbc and explain themselves like you should have just wrote a letter of like here do you know what i mean like there should have been like a brand positioning that went out with it no that's actually really true so what as a professional marketer yourself what were your thoughts on the toast rebrand absolutely loved it any notes like things we did incorrectly no like again you did it you there was an announcement behind it all the assets changed
Starting point is 00:50:17 at the same time it was well thought out it was because you were ever evolving with your community and the way that they refer to you like right you didn't just go and call it the fart we should have called it the fart name oh no we went from the breath to the fart that's like too much actually fun fact for anyone who's new here is jackie and i first started doing a podcast it was called the morning breath yep and olivia was our showrunner producer literally booker everything yep everything those were the days do you miss working with us ever I do I do but you guys are like so successful awesome and killing it on your own like it's so great to just kind of be a fly on the wall that's so nice I think that sometimes we miss you I miss you guys you're just like very
Starting point is 00:50:58 organized like you're a great businesswoman and you're really smart and we're definitely missing that thank you yeah no but in the beginning when we like you guys have such a well-run operation now people don't realize like in the beginning I mean what it started at was me and my janky hands holding two phones one was Facebook live one was Instagram live and I was like we couldn't we didn't even buy a tripod it was like me like this the first episode ever of Jackson Claude we were literally using Olivia's arms as tripods and honestly I don't know how they didn't break me either me either and like honestly for everybody that was there because I people always comment and they're like I've been here since day one it's like have you been here since
Starting point is 00:51:33 that day yes they have yeah which is like I'm sorry like you probably got a seizure you know I would absolutely love to go find episode one of the toast you just like found a room and like did and there's so many learnings that have happened along the way like look at this setup now like you know how to like hdmi into the usbc and then export to abcdefg you know like i don't know how to do that stuff but i think like you really kind of you guys did this all on your own like it's amazing not really because you were there i was there i was there in the beginning it was it was great times thank you for joining the toast and thanks for killing over already yeah we killed those fast five anything looks sad well we don't have to be done what else you want to talk about girlfriend no i
Starting point is 00:52:11 don't necessarily have anything else to talk about it's just been so lovely being here with you i just love having you here i know it's so crazy how i'm really like a patreon girly yeah the patreon community knows me really well thank you so much for bringing that you're so welcome i meant to promote this at the beginning of the episode but we put a vlog up on our patreon yesterday that people are calling academy award winning they're calling it literally nobel peace prize worthy um we went to costco i'm not a costco girl but olivia's husband like literally wants to be buried at costco and he goes you know a couple times a month and we joined him on the trip oh my god it was fun at first i I was, like, into it.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I was impressed. And then it slowly, like, devolved into, like, the most insanely torturous, exhausting day. I'm not trying to be negative. Showing your true colors. The vlog is available at patreon.com slash jatos. People are obsessed with it. I hope you guys enjoy it. I'm going to try and make this a little bit more content while I'm down here.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And if anybody was wondering where I was, I was taking a two-hour nap. And it was glorious. And somebody had was wondering where I was, I was taking a two hour nap and it was glorious. And somebody had to watch the kids. Like, yeah. And I came home and there was like a beautiful Diet Coke for me in the fridge. Like it was just absolutely gorgeous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 That is the kind of the one fatal flaw of the vlog though is that you're not in it. I know, but I'm spoken about a lot. Like, it's really interesting that you guys think like I would like blueberry muffins. Okay. Do you like blueberry muffins? Like they're okay.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But that crumb cake one definitely looked much better. What a when i re-watched the vlog i'm like why did we not get the crumb cake yeah there was something else that you guys said that i liked it was just like making me laugh wine oh the wine stuff yeah yeah but you actually didn't buy any wine yesterday because we don't need we're fully stocked so it's a great vlog uh livia's husband zach is featured in it quite a bit i've been heard i've been heard i've been told that he's a star yeah he is the star he's so funny he's so serious he's so literally i couldn't even get him to talk on the vlog because he was so focused at the costco like it's kind of like a military operation for him he's like yeah knows where everything is kind of threw off his vibe like the way that you went in and you're like okay let's go to get the meat first and like he doesn't
Starting point is 00:54:00 do that like he starts at the produce you know like he has his whole we were being toxic for sure he has his whole like path forward um and it was definitely an experience for him i think like he kind of loved like being on camera like he pretended like he didn't but he loved it you could tell that's the thing with vlogging like it's addicting it's addicting you know when he was like filling up the gas and being interviewed like he really thought that he was a star also if you want to hear more from olivia you have to go to her instagram at Olivia Oshry, O-S-H-R-Y. She posts fabulous mom content, cooking content. You're really an amazing cook.
Starting point is 00:54:31 What are you making us for dinner tonight? I don't know. What do the kids want? I don't think I would like hate like a chicken stir fry. Okay. I like to make things that people ask for, you know? I don't think I would mind like an Asian fusion, like a rice and a stir fry kind of moment.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Maybe a fried rice. Done, done, and done. I feel like the last time you were here I made something like that too because like that's what you like that's what I like I like what I like yeah so make sure to follow Olivia on Instagram at Olivia Oshry I could use a few more followers yeah you can never have enough it's like how does my sister have three million and I don't even have a hundred thousand you know you're fine thank you guys so much for listening to the toast thank you i love you thanks for listening to the toast the monday morning show where we deal with the fast five stories you need to know every monday through friday on youtube so if you're watching it's on youtube please don't forget to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up we're also available
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