The Toast - Greta vs. The Coal Miners: Wednesday, January 18th, 2023

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday! It is Hump Day, the most important and sort of vital day here at The Toast. Hey Jax, how you doing? I'm doing well. I'm glad that you're speaking to the importance of Hump Day because not only is it vital to The Toast, like it's vital to the world population. Like if we ain't humping, Like it's vital to the world population. Like if we ain't humping, we ain't procreating. And humanity could go extinct without hump day. If we ain't humping, we ain't jumping. Well, that's true because it rhymes.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Exactly. Yeah. Happy Wednesday, everyone. It is a gorgeous day here in New York and Florida I'm assuming we have a is it's so freezing I don't know if it's just my house but like it has been colder here and then when it's cold here my house gets so cold like my heat doesn't work and we've just kind of given up and so like frosty I brought out my blanket today because I'm just having a chill snowman by the way our house is so weird because like me and Ben, no matter what time of year,
Starting point is 00:01:08 we sleep in a tundra. Like, but you know, we have people come to the house and when I'm in the living room eating dinner, I don't need to be freezing. So our like living, dining, kitchen, main living areas are like set at the heat, 80 degrees. You open the door to our bedroom, igloo. It's like 59 degrees. It's freezing. We've never turned the air off to our bedroom igloo it's like 59 degrees it's freezing we've never turned the air off in our bedroom it's too different I'm living in the north and south
Starting point is 00:01:30 pole that's not very green of you mclary you know what I don't want the pressure of being a green girl like yesterday's episode was hilarious but you know what I just want to say like on my part I'm not gonna speak for Jackie I was joking like I don't want to be a green girl like I care about the environment for sure but I don't want to categorize myself as a green girl because then I'll do something and people will be like really Claudia you could have walked it was only two blocks well you know what I'm tired and you're not a green girl and I'm not a green girl so I don't want that expectation being put on me you know what I mean it's too much I understand I understand I already put so much pressure on myself like I didn't choose this life is the thing like it kind of chose me the
Starting point is 00:02:10 Tesla chose me and I'm doing what look at my cup today you guys oh my god if you're listening as a podcast for the first time in six seasons Jackie is drinking her coffee out of a mug, not a plastic cup and straw. I used to always drink hot coffee and I'm drinking a hot coffee today because as stated, I'm chilly. But when we would do the toast in New York, I had to take my hot coffee on the road. Hence, you know, a disposable cup. But now that I'm in my house drinking out of my mug, like I have a mug. So I have a mug and I have a Tesla.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Like you can't and by the way yesterday uh Greta Thunberg was actually detained by German forces for protesting at a coal mine so it seems like she's gonna be out of commission for a bit and the the spotlight for like a new famous green girly is empty and it sounds like Greta needs me a temporary replacement me the only thing is with that my wires are crossing because I support the toonies but I support the coal miners yeah no I want to know what she was uh what she was was she protesting the miners because you come for the miners I come for you she was protesting coal mining in general because like it emits greenhouse gases that are bad for the environment.
Starting point is 00:03:25 But like, that's a tough one for me. No. Yeah. Cause it's like, do we, where, where do we care more about the gases being emitted from the coal mining or coal miners working hard, providing for their families? And I think what they mine like creates like everything. Yeah. Like I'm not a hundred percent sure. They're not doing it for fun. No, it's like, that's like really important shit. And it's like a job nobody wants. And it's like the lowest totem pole. So I'm going to stick with the coal miners because I support here in America. Like I support hardworking people, the men and women of coal mining industry, supporting their families.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And they're really the backbone of this nation. And for how much we talk about them, I really should learn like what coal miners do. Like, what are they mining? Where does the coal go? I feel like the coal makes like energy yeah they're mining coal and then we use that coal and like burn that coal to create fuel and a bunch of other things that keep us running sounds like it's it's a no-brainer like we need the coal miners Greta there are so many other worthy causes sit this one out she girl bossed a little too close to the sun on that. The pictures of her getting arrested,
Starting point is 00:04:28 well, not arrested, they said detained. I don't know what the difference is. She was like walked off the set. Yeah, did you see, there's a video. So the pictures of her went viral because she's in the arms of like four big German detainees and she's just chilling. They're holding her limb by limb, one for her arm, one for her other arm,
Starting point is 00:04:44 one for her leg, one for her other leg. And she's just chilling. They're holding her limb by limb, one for her arm, one for her other arm, one for her leg, one for her other leg. And she's just chilling, like not bothered. And it looks like this like triumphant photo. And then I saw a video of it and it wasn't as triumphant. And there was like a guy being like, Greta, can I get a selfie with you? And she's like, hee hee hee. Like for a while, she's just like standing there with the police officers. Like nothing's really happening.
Starting point is 00:05:03 They're just like taking pictures. It was. It was giving taking pictures. It was... It was giving photo op. It was. But that's, I think, what Greta lives for. And the Green Girlies, we can't turn on each other, you know? No, no, we can't. But, like, you came for the coal miners, Greta.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I know, and... I don't know how we can... I draw the line. I draw the line at the coal miners. I do. Also, like, doesn't she have to go to school I've often wondered that about Greta Toon but here's the thing about the great Greta is that when she first popped on the scene everyone was like shook and she was like 16 that was like six years ago
Starting point is 00:05:37 she's old now yeah are you okay because I also then a part of me like feels weird even talking about her because I'm like she's a 12. A child. She's not. I think she's in her 20s now. She's 20. Okay. So she doesn't need, she probably has her high school degree. It's also different. In Germany. I don't know about college.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah. Is she German? I thought she was. What accent is this? How dare you? I thought she was. What accent is this? How dare you? I thought she was like Swedish. I think she's Dutch. No, she's definitely German.
Starting point is 00:06:14 She is from Sweden. Oh, okay. She's got that Icelandic. No, not Icelandic. What? Nordic. Nordic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I swear I thought she was German. Well, it was confusing because like then she was in germany yesterday right right doing you know testing like their coal miners like right like you don't know german culture greta stay out of it no one thing about greta she's not gonna stay out of it she's gonna make it her business yeah and that's why she's as successful as she was and why she is and that's why she was time woman of the year like when she was four time girl of the year uh that's also why she and I had to cancel our lunch plans um but now things are kind of like a little awkward with us just because she knows where I stand about the coal miners yeah and like and then she now has
Starting point is 00:07:00 a problem with me so I don't know what the green community is for me I think the green girlies like might be breaking up yeah there's just a lot of wires and everybody you know like everybody has their their agenda yeah I'm bowing out I don't want to be a green girly it's too much pressure I want to continue to care about the environment but care about myself a little bit more and and do that in peace but that's why driving a Tesla is so perfect because you get to be like inadvertently green and you like look sickening and like a futuristic robot. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know, I did take an Uber to the studio today, even though it's walkable. I was just so tired and I got a Tesla. So I actually- And your boots look heavy. My boots are heavy. They're with me in spirit. No, and I didn't emit any, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:45 greenhouse gas. Emissions. Carbon emissions. so I actually look heavy my boots are with me in spirit no and I didn't emit any you know greenhouse emissions carbon emissions yeah like it wasn't it wasn't bad for the environment for me to take an uber today that's good yeah that's really good um so all in all are you supportive of me getting a tesla there was like whispers that you didn't seem supportive you know actually I wanted to talk about that yesterday because I was facetiming with two of my friends yesterday I was probably in just all day like one of the worst moods one of the worst fucking moods and I was re-watching the show yesterday and as I was doing the show yesterday I was like I knew I had like a mug on my face and like I just didn't fucking care so I actually did want to apologize to you and to everyone like I just was in like a fucking nasty ass mood yesterday and I was trying.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And like I was just in a bad mood. I didn't notice the mm-hmm. I was literally in such a bad, I got such bad sleep the night before last. Like I was in such a bad mood and I'm feeling better today. So now I can acknowledge that I was wrong. Like I was just like, if you watch my face yesterday, especially at the beginning, after like 10 or 15 minutes, even if you're in a bad mood, toast brings you out of it but in the beginning I was like mean mugging yesterday
Starting point is 00:08:48 got it got it but like aside from the bad mood like I feel like there's a part of you that's just like not convinced about me getting a Tesla okay don't be paranoid I'm very convinced oh okay cool what's wrong why wouldn't I personally like want to send me to a charging station okay I see what you mean I'm just I want you to be thinking it through you know like I just want you to know all the different you know responsibilities that come along and I'm cheap I'm like where can we go get free charge you know free energy free energy and I'm sorry if that made it seem like I wasn't supportive I'm just I'm trying to think of all possible scenarios you know got it okay cool cool I'm glad that you're excited and I just know when you come
Starting point is 00:09:27 down here like we're gonna I'm gonna drive right around my whip and you're gonna be obsessed I will say I have been driven in a Tesla by like friends two times once by Lauren Elizabeth and once actually not to brag by Ryan Phillippe and both, the one thing I didn't like about the car and you don't drive fast. So like, I'm not worried about that. Is when you like go from like, you know, standing to driving fast. Like there's such a, you know? Yeah. It's like if you hit the gas, like you're.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Everyone goes flying. You know, Kyle Busch. Who's that? NASCAR. Yes. It's like vroom. And like your hair, like you get pulled back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 That's like supposed to be a perk, but you know that won't be me. I do not feel the need for speed. Now let's just circle back the car ride with Ryan Phillippe. Yeah. One time he drove me to a party. Just you and him? No, no. The car was full, but it felt like it was just me and him.
Starting point is 00:10:26 What seat were you in? I was behind. He was driving and I was behind him in the backseat. That's not so bad. At least you weren't like in the backpack.
Starting point is 00:10:35 No, no. But I wasn't, you know, his passenger princess. You weren't shotgun. No, I wasn't shotgun. I was sitting right behind Ryan. That's pretty cool. Was he a good driver?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Yeah. What kind of Tesla do you remember? It had the doors that go up. It was actually really sick. Yeah. That's monolux. It was really sick. That's pretty cool. It's a Batmobile. Yeah, it was a Batmobile. I think it was white. I really can't remember. I didn't know that story. So that's a cool story. One thing about me is I am an endless well of thirsty stories like that's just me if there's a celebrity involved like I'm gonna tell it but you haven't told that one it hasn't come up you know next you wonder like what else we don't know about you I know I feel like actually I'm so braggadocious is that the right word like when you're braggy
Starting point is 00:11:21 yeah okay I'm so braggadocious like about everything but actually I feel like a lot of stories I have with celebrities I actually keep close to the vest because one I don't want to get invited back I won't get invited back and like two you never know like how celebrities feel like some some like it some don't like I don't know so I just like shut my mouth yeah I understand I feel like there's a statute of limitation and then you yes yes yes. We look forward to hearing about what happened in LA for real. Speaking about things. In two years. Literally. Thinking about, no, speaking about things that I'm looking forward to. Today's like a really big day. Jackie and I decided, we've had this idea for a while and we weren't sure exactly how to do it
Starting point is 00:11:59 from a technology standpoint, but we figured it out with the help of YouTube. Tonight, we've been wanting to do a live show, like a digital virtual live show on our Patreon forever. We looked into a bunch of different platforms and we figured out the best way to do it is on YouTube, we think. Tonight is our first one. So if you're a Patreon member, you already know, but if you aren't a Patreon member, you've been thinking about becoming a Patreon member, or this just sounds exciting to you, it's not too late to sign up. So today at five o'clock Eastern time, Jackie and I are doing our first YouTube live show. Jack's from Florida studio, me from my house.
Starting point is 00:12:31 We're going to be doing cocktails, pop culture, chit-chatting, Greta Thunberg. It's all going to be live. So it's kind of like our old audio only live show with Spotify live breaking bread. We're calling this one Freaking Fred. Just because we don't like, like own the name like legally and we don't want to get in trouble sued by
Starting point is 00:12:48 Spotify. Um, but it'll be similar. It'll be similar. It'll be aforementioned, you know, 45 minutes to an hour, Jackson,
Starting point is 00:12:54 Claude original recipe. The live chat will be back. If you're remember from the old YouTube live days, you'll be able to comment in real time on YouTube. If you can't catch it and you are a member or you want to become a member, you'll be able to watch it afterwards on demand. But it'll be like exciting to be there live. I'm very excited.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I'm excited too. I'm excited to see what people have to say. That'll help like inform the convo. We're going to just talk about pop culture tings ourselves. And then, you know, late night, Jackson Claude. Not crazy, you know, early evening. Things get wild. Jax gets crazy, early evening. Things get wild. Jax gets crazy, like kind of delirious, like after being a mom and a worker all day.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I keep it together on this show. You know, I'm very much like the, I'm straight and narrow. After dark. She gets wild. There's no telling what'll happen. There's no telling. So I'm really excited for that we have been talking about doing that for a while everybody loved breaking bread so they're gonna
Starting point is 00:13:49 love freaking Fred it's it's kind of gonna like change the world I think so I really do plus to be live with our our peeps again yeah the comments always crack me up. It's going to be really fun. So we will see you there. It's not too late to join if you want to get in on the fun. It's patreon.com slash a toast. $7.99 is our premium subscription. And you basically get five extra episodes
Starting point is 00:14:15 from Jackson Claude every month. That's vlogs, podcasts, video podcasts. And it's fabulous. So there's no reason not to. Great.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And we've actually recently brought back a segment that we used to do on this show but it wasn't right for our show called unburden yourselves um we brought it back on patreon and i think we're gonna start doing it maybe like once a month because it was so funny it was so people clearly needed to unburden themselves yeah it's been a long time oh and speaking of today's Wednesday so we have dear toasters um we have one that I actually feel personally um like invested in and like offended by oh okay can't wait you'll see why it's our second one okay can't wait to get to that um before we get into everything anything else you want to update the group on no I literally watched 45 minute 45 episodes of Mindy Project last night people say
Starting point is 00:15:05 it goes downhill after season three and they're not wrong but it's still like a good funny fresh show it's not like bad nice yeah I started reading Hillbilly Elegy I know it had a big moment uh a few years ago and it was Hillbilly Elegy have you heard of it Hillbilly Elegy is a movie too like Amy Adams Glenn Close no I never heard of this it was like, and I thought it would be a good follow-up for me to Demon Copperhead, which was like about Appalachia. So, you know, it was honestly amazing. And the author, you know, attempted to write the great Appalachian novel to like represent her people and what they've gone through.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So I wanted to learn more. So I just had heard of Hillbilly Elegy. It was on my want to read. So I was like, maybe this feels like a good time to read it it's non-fiction though um and I'm getting it's a lot of non-fiction you know what have the Appalachian people been through pardon my ignorance I have literally no idea they've been through a lot like and honestly it's it has to do with the coal mining like that they were like the mining communities and then like the mines went away and um now like they're really struggling with the opioid crisis.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah. And it's just like this cycle of poverty. Yeah. Like generational poverty that they can't get out of. And they're just like kind of like they're just like so disrespected. Yeah. They get made fun of. They get made fun of.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Like and it's like in Demon Copperhead, he was like, we have TV. We see what you're saying. Like, it's not nice. Let me ask you another question that's going to show how dumb I am. Where is Appalachia? Appalachian Mountains, but it's a number of states.
Starting point is 00:16:36 So like, Demon Copperhead was in Virginia. Hillbilly Elegy is like between Kentucky and where's the other place that they, Ohio. But it's like the Rust Belt. It's a lot of states. Got it. Oh my God, that's so sad.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I don't think I've ever made fun of Appalachian people, but now I'm going to look out for it. Yeah, like even just the word, you know, Hillbilly and those sorts of words. I thought Hillbilly was just like southerner. It's condescending. For sure. It's condescending and for sure it's condescending but I think and redneck too but I think in um country music is like attempting to take the words back you know yeah well that's also in demon copperhead that's what he said like you know it's the name that they call us and then you know you take up your power back by calling it to yourself but it's still like red letters red dirt yeah but it's
Starting point is 00:17:27 still a disrespectful it's not a slur but it's like it's like white trash like white trash is not a slur but it's like condescending but it's bad it shouldn't be like used if we're not going to be using scary words yeah but it's not like a hard slur it's like one level below for sure but like we've taken out one we've taken out four levels below that's true like that lizzo thing like that's what i was just thinking of s-p-a-z for i think they said it was ableist like you won't even say it but we're saying everything else that we're saying so true so that's like there was a lot of points made in demon copperhead it's just it was it was so so good and i just wanted to educate myself further so i thought hillbilly elegy would be good
Starting point is 00:18:09 also it's in the 200s amount of pages so that felt right so is mindy kaling's novel which i looked up last night that i will be adding to my list 222 um but you know what else but it's non-fiction so it does take longer anyway you know what else is in the 200s? But it's nonfiction, so it does take longer anyway. You know what else is in the 200s? Your book? Girl With No Job, The Crazy Beautiful Life of an Instagram Thirst Monster. Available wherever you get books. Audiobooks, ebooks, and hardcover books. Amazon, Barnes & Noble, indie bookstores.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Check it out. Great. What a great combo. For as much as we talk about reading on this show, like I really don't plug my own New York Times bestselling novel that much. And we always are getting new listeners, so it's important that you let them know because like if they tuned in three weeks ago like they might not know and that not only that you wrote a book like I think a lot of people write books but that it's a New York Times bestseller I think and it's like actually good you know like it's gonna make you belly laugh you
Starting point is 00:19:03 might even cry if you've been through you know there's a lot of talk about grief um it's just like the life story of me and my journey and like it's not trash like I feel like a lot of people especially like digital people like write books just to write books and they put like charts in there and shit like no it's a 240 page novella is it a novella it's not it's a memoir it's but it's also a kind of like a romance and I kind of feel like there's a sequel that's going to be written it's this will they won't they of Claudia and Maverick it's the Maverick pages like you think that this book is about like Claudia and Ben's romance but the underlying subtext shows the love that Claudia shows Maverick. Maverick is your mysterious past, Claudia. A hundred percent. So I don't think, I don't think the book is closed on that, honestly.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Quite literally. You should, hold on, free idea for you. Okay. You should write a sequel to your memoir that is fiction it's never been done that is such a good idea yeah I would need help though I need to have a co-writer because I've never I don't have any experience writing fiction I can only write about what I know best and that's myself yeah but you could also like take some writing classes I think that would just like help you learn how to write fiction yeah just change your mindset you know what I mean yeah no by the way that's like such a good idea think about it the crazy and it would be called the crazy parallel life or like parallel universe life of an Instagram third sponsor you're on an influencer trip in Paris and you see Maverick. I'm getting emotional. That's like, it's so good. And you say to your Parisian influencer friends, that's my ex Maverick. You wrote the story
Starting point is 00:20:54 yesterday. But I say it's my ex-husband because it's a parallel universe. Like who cares? Right, right, right. Love. Love. And you know what they would call him in Paris? Maverick. Maverick. And of course it would be smut. Oh my God, of course. I would actually, I would need Tessa Bailey to write it with me. I don't think I could ever actually write smut. Write the smut you wish to see in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Love that. That's like what Rach Parcell is doing. I know. Rach Parcell has been talking on TikTok about how she is writing a fictional book and I'm like so excited. Yeah. I need it to come out. It's such a good idea. It is. Because I feel like she's like a really influential reader. Like when she shares a book, like a lot of people download it. Like I think she could sell a lot of books and she's read a lot. I feel like she could she could get her done. Yeah. You guys have the same taste in books, right?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Yeah, very similar. I've taken a lot of really good recommendations from her. Awesome. Maybe she needs a co-writer. Oh my God, you could do it together. She could just name her character Maverick. Perfect. All right, let's dive in because we've got your toasters.
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Starting point is 00:26:21 Selena Gomez and Drew Taggart went bowling together. Page Six is calling in a bowling date, though I'm still not sure. Selena Gomez and Drew Taggart seem to have confirmed their rumored romance. Page Six has obtained exclusive photos of the singer, actress, and the Chainsmokers member on a flirty date at the Gutter, a New York City bowling alley on Sunday. An eyewitness told Page Six the couple was making out like teenagers while enjoying some alone time. There was also a group of young girls that went up for pictures from her shortly after and a man getting an autograph. The pair kept things casual with Selena wearing a black sweatshirt and matching sweatpants. I don't know that she would wear sweatpants on a date like
Starting point is 00:27:01 in so early in their relationship and he wore a camo shirt and dark pants so yesterday I was like fully of the mind that this was false Us Weekly is not reliable this is never happening and now we have proof and I know Jackie's gonna choose to continue to live in denial I will accept that they are probably dating I don't think it's gonna last forever but I was wrong I literally could not see it being true and now I've actually physically seen it and it's important to acknowledge when you're wrong I just want to say I'm holding out still because one these two are bowling and then they have all these pictures of them but they say they were making out all over each other but there's not one picture of them making out but someone across the room is taking pictures of them the entire time if they were making out would there
Starting point is 00:27:43 not be one photo of it true I think I'm gonna stick with what I said yesterday I think that they're working on a song and I think that this is creating hype for the song and it's like okay our PR person is making us go bowling together like there's worse things I know I just feel like Selena's above that like she doesn't do PR relationships you know she doesn't really do relationships she hasn't right but it's like honestly I feel like PR relationships kind of get a bad rap like they're the worst fakest thing but it's like okay I'm not gonna it doesn't have to be like we have to pretend and like get married and have kids but it's like oh you want us to just be seen bowling together to help our song like we're not we're not lying and saying we're dating we're just gonna like go out and have a
Starting point is 00:28:21 good time that's fine okay so if in the next year we get a song with like the chain smokers slash drew and selena gomez we will know that this was fraudulent but if we don't and they don't last forever and we never hear about them again they did they went on a date is that a good barometer i don't think she would wear that on a date i don't think selena gives a fuck honestly i know but like if you're in like the that's not a date outfit sorry it's not black sweatshirt and black sweatpants but it is bowling like you don't want to wear your finest to the to the alley it's true but you know what it is it's a studio outfit oh my god is she wrong you guys no I I don't think I've said anything incorrect so far so no you're being you're
Starting point is 00:29:04 using your critical thinking skills I'm very impressed I am said anything incorrect so far so no you're being you're using your critical thinking skills I'm very impressed I am and of course you know what if I'm wrong about this I'll honestly be happy because like I want Selena to find love I want it to be with someone who's like successful and in the industry rather than like you know some mysterious businessman who we don't know like I want to know who Selena's with so like I'll get on the ship if it's true I just like I don't believe that the ship is setting sail there are also like a lot of shady things coming out about Drew in terms of timeline like he was dating Steve Jobs's daughter Eve Jobs which I'll never get over that that's her name um up until like a few days before this rumor came out and they had like broken up but it was
Starting point is 00:29:42 like very much like we still need to talk. And like very much not completely broken. She had recently even posted a photo of them on Instagram. And then when this rumor came out. She deleted the photo and deleted her Instagram. Okay. That's a piece that doesn't add up. That's like hella dramatic. Like you didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And he looks like an ass. Like you actually look like a nice girl. Like leave your Instagram up Eve. Maybe. Okay. This piece doesn't add up to me. Because that sounds like. Maybe she's maybe she's in on it too no no I don't think she would be in on it because like she's oh my god you scared the shit out of me oh my god I literally I'm not okay hi are you from oh he told me you were coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Okay, well, I can't do right now. I'm sorry. I mean, you're more than welcome to do your thing. I'm recording. If you could just not go behind me. You can hit the radiator. The radiator's not in frame. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I'm not okay. Pest control is here. No, pest control is so important let this be pest control let this be a message to all of our listeners call the exterminator you got to get that shit done once a month and I really recommend sayonara they're great awesome okay so let me give you my theory on this because to me this sounds like this eve jobs piece is the only thing that doesn't add up because it does sound like she would be like upset that he moved on so quickly and so she deleted her Instagram dramatically but I think
Starting point is 00:31:07 it's because she doesn't want any part of like the Selena stans on her Instagram you know what and she was she's wise for that she doesn't want to be mixed up with these two and like in a romance a love triangle look how it worked for Hailey Bieber Eve said no so true like and it's not Selena's fault but she does and can have like a no so true like and it's not Selena's fault but she does and can have like a very toxic fan base and it's very possible like she just wanted to you know write herself out of this narrative one in which she never asked to be a part of yeah so I like that that would explain that part and it still leaves it open to this being a PR relationship or a real relationship yeah hmm that's good no so far you've been able to explain
Starting point is 00:31:45 all this away I still feel like they probably went out on a date even though you're right like so the person was taking pictures but not of them making out like they were making out like teenagers no it's so important to question everything and like Celine there were a bunch of girls out that were Selena fans if they saw her making out like they would have videos and photos no Selena is too famous to be making out with someone would have videos and photos no Selena is too famous to be making out with someone in public and not there be a photo of it especially when there are photos of the two of them at the same event like five minutes earlier before they're with camera phones were there no you're 100% right question everything this is really this
Starting point is 00:32:19 is some fine investigative work Jackie like I'm really I'm very impressed thank you so I think that if they want us to leave it they have to take it up a notch but I don't think Selena would resort to like publicly making out with someone who like she's actually not interested in but like to go bowling sure whatever right between jam sashes everybody likes to bowl everybody makes mistakes you just said everybody just like Hannah oh my god that's so kind of you oh speaking of Hannah I had heard this before yesterday's episode but I didn't know if it was true or not so I didn't want to say it on the show
Starting point is 00:32:49 and then I we got some feedback um from yesterday a lot of the stuff that's coming out about Miley's song like when I was your man is the song that Liam dedicated she filmed in the house that they used to whatever he had dated 14 girls a lot of that was like shit made up by Miley Stans to like make the song go viral and like give it like some drama like a lot of that shit is not true um just want to say that all worked on me definitely gave the song relevance right I guess yeah how would we know that he cheated on her with 14 people in that house like also the suit uh yeah okay honestly we need the Miley Stans working for us yeah no the Miley Stans like also the suit. Yeah. Okay. Well, it got me interested. It got me interested.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Honestly, we need the Miley Stans working for us. Yeah, no, the Miley Stans like doing more marketing and strategy than like the biggest record labels in the country. Yeah. Good for them. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, good for them.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And you know what? If this is what's going on with Selena, then I'm happy for her, but it's so important to constantly be asking questions. Exactly. Are you ready for our next story yes Todd and Julie Chrisley report to prison to begin serving their time for tax fraud Todd and Julie Chrisley are beginning their new lives behind bars the Chrisley knows best couple
Starting point is 00:33:57 reported to their respective federal prisons on Tuesday two months after they were sentenced to a combined 19 years for fraud and tax evasion. Respective? Like they're in different facilities? I know like you would keep men and women separate, but... Yeah, separate. Damn. Todd is serving 12 years at federal prison camp Pensacola in Florida. Meanwhile, Julie was originally set to spend the next seven years
Starting point is 00:34:20 at federal correction institution Mariana, just two hours away, but she was reassigned to federal fmc lexington in kentucky well todd's is called a camp i mean i know it's probably still not great but okay it's called camp i mean who knows what the fmc stands for no federal caller i don't think so actually hold on how would i find that out i don't know we'd have to ask someone who we'd have to see who else is there federal prison like where is galane yeah or like where did uh felicity huffman go oh i'm sorry trots chrisley serving his time in one of america's cushiest prisons okay it's still a prison like let's be real it's minimum security
Starting point is 00:35:06 labeled one of the cushiest in america usually reserved for white collar crime that includes wire fraud mail fraud and health care fraud okay but what about julie's julie was federal sounded bad federal fmc lexington reminds me of the book horse uh oh her first dinner in prison revealed i can't with these articles oh my god how do they know that they must like look at the menu i don't know that's true the menu I don't know that's true she it didn't come up as like a cushy place no but this doesn't mean it's not I would imagine it's similar because they
Starting point is 00:35:57 have the same level of crime so are they never gonna be able to see each other because like it's not like you can visit your spouse in prison if you're in prison I guess not that's like so sad yeah like I know they did that shit but this seems so harsh yeah it really does it's such a long time like with Jen Shaw like I could see I could see what my life in six years yeah I cannot see my life in six years. Yeah. I cannot see my life in 12 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Agreed. So it's 12 and seven. Yeah. She got seven. He got 12, which means his like involvement was more, but he got to go to the cushy camp. I hope she gets to go. That's just because there was an article calling it a cushy prison. Like I.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Right. There might be. This might be cushy. Well, I guess he's the cushiest. Right. There might be, this might be cushy. Well, I guess he's the cushiest. Right. Like that cushy prison that Jeffrey Epstein was in where they like let him go home for a few hours every day. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Is that where he was? Literally, like he got driven to his house for a few hours every day. Maybe to sleep at night. I don't fucking know. Oh my God. Go to prison. It was in Florida. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And Todd's is in florida hold on but not the prison where he was found dead no no um he had served time yes before prior yeah um let's see it was a facility in florida i'm really curious if it's the same one as chrisley i don't think i'll find it in time okay um well regardless i'm wishing them well strength faith yeah that's all you can do. Agreed. Are you ready for our next story?
Starting point is 00:37:50 I am. I guess it's technically some more Selina news because Only Murders in the Building has revealed their new cast member for season three and it's Meryl Streep. This show is so elegant. Season three of Only Murders at Hulu. The announcement was made by series star Selina
Starting point is 00:38:07 in a video posted to Instagram, which can be seen in this article. It is not yet known whether Streep will appear in a guest recurring or series regular capacity. True that. So Paul Rudd is also like a series regular for this third season. Meryl Streep, I don't know if she's ever done television.
Starting point is 00:38:24 This show is so elevated. I feel like we don't know if she's ever done television like this show is so elevated I feel like we don't really live in the type of world anymore where TV was like kind of beneath a lot of actors like I think some of the biggest and baddest will do TV now even like you know movie stars but I don't think Meryl Streep ever has I feel like this is a really big deal well she did Big Little Lies oh yeah and a couple other mini series that's true that's true thank you for correcting me um well I get what you're saying like one still major for her it's major for her it's major for the show but this show is extremely star-studded and elevated I'm sure like Martin and Steve and Selina have like rolodexes of context and people who want to
Starting point is 00:39:03 be involved in the show because it's such a big hit. I wonder why we've never had a Taylor cameo like just for like a second. Taylor definitely loves the show. I feel like Taylor wouldn't want to make it about her. That's true. That's true. You know like let Selina have her thing. No that's so fair. Yeah and like every cameo there's not just been like stars for stars sake like Jane Lynch was on um Cara Delevingne but Amy Schumer they had roles yeah no you're right except for Sting yeah and a little bit Amy Schumer like her I don't really understand her part at all yeah but I know what you mean like it's more than just a cameo it's like more purposeful yeah so I feel like Meryl Streep she's not going to be like a main character but she will have
Starting point is 00:39:48 a role in the show oh my god that's very exciting I love that show like second season like it got away from me a little bit but I still enjoyed it like it's still such a good show the writing is so funny Martin Short and Steve Martin are so funny it's a great show it is and I think what it underscores is the power of podcasting I agree and I think that's so important so important but it's power of true crime podcasting which is not your fave no it's not that it's not my fave I just don't think they belong in the comedy category and I think that's not a crazy thing to say yeah am I wrong um there's literally a true crime category yeah yeah no i hear what you're saying i i do yeah are you ready for our next story yeah it's a little von trapp news excuse me
Starting point is 00:40:37 the von trapps you know them yeah from the sound of music, the famed Sound of Music Von Trapp family is developing a TV drama show. Wait, I'm sorry. The Von Trapps are still alive? I know. That was shocking to me too. But at least like their descendants. The Von Trapps are real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:59 That was their story, fleeing the Nazis. Okay. Can I just share something sure I don't think I've ever seen the sound of music I don't think you've ever seen the sound of music where you've been old enough to understand it no like I've definitely seen the Vin Diesel movie pacifier where that kid is in the local community production of the Von Trapps and he sings you are 16 going on 17 i definitely know that but they you know before they know he's doing community theater he's got a nazi costume in his room and they're worried about him becoming a skinhead such a good movie by the way i've never seen i don't
Starting point is 00:41:37 i'm telling you i've never seen the sound of music i think the hills are alive with the sound of music. Never seen it. I think that we saw it when we were younger. We were just too young to understand. And then I more recently saw the Carrie Underwood live version. Because she played the governess. What's her name? In the live NBC.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Julie Andrews. In the NBC version for NBC Live. Like you know how they do live things. She was in it. So can you just give me like really quickly. What's the synopsis of the film? I know the Nazis are involved. And I know there's a bunch of kids who sing.
Starting point is 00:42:14 So there's a bunch of kids who sing. They have this like amazing governess. I need to remember her name. Are the Von Trapps Jewish? They don't sound Jewish. And that's kind of a flaw in the story. Von Trapp? Right. Our part doesn't add up. So why would they be escaping the Nazis jewish they don't sound jewish and that's kind of a flaw in the story right that's the part
Starting point is 00:42:26 doesn't add up so why would they be escaping the nazis if they're just a bunch of like german protestants i don't think it's a great place to be okay you know especially if you weren't a nazi right now you're just gonna be like privy to these crimes yeah amazing call um so they're a bunch of kids i think they're like a little unruly so they have a governess and she like shows them the power of music and the hills were alive with the sound of music teaches them do re mi and they're just like singing and fucking around and then the nazis come and they have to leave do they successfully get out yeah because now they're new york city based and they're New York City based. And they're writing a drama series. So the Von Trapp descendants are currently living in Manhattan?
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yes. Miles is the New York City based grandson of George's eldest child, Rupert, who was actually depicted as Liesel in the Oscar winning 1966 movie. And Miles is the one who is developing this scripted drama called the baroness it's going it's billed as being a mixture of the crown and this is us excuse me like that's the vibe i i kind of hear what they're saying like those are two shows that couldn't have less in common it's gonna be the crown like historical but like corny as hell this is this sounds turnt like really it's like it sounds like it's gonna be bad I don't know I like the title I like the title too the baroness uh it sounds like it would be
Starting point is 00:43:57 on like the history channel yeah for sure I'm trying to read what a synopsis of the movie's about but it literally just says, like, the governess Maria teaching them the power of music, and, oh, and the father's a widowed naval captain. I think there's a romance. Between Julie Andrews and the dad? Yeah. And then there's seven children,
Starting point is 00:44:19 and it brings a new love of life and music into the home. Then World War II. Doe, a deer, a female deer. Ray, a drop of golden sun. Me, a name I call myself. Fa, a longer way to run. So, a needle pulling thread. Fa, a note to follow so.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Tea, a drink with jam and bread. Wait let me ask you a question. Did that limerick like exist before the sound of music or they made that shit up? I think they made that shit up. Okay and then is that other song also from the sound of music? These are a few of my favorite things. Yep. When the dog bites and whiskers on kittens yeah yeah and I have like PTSD from that song because that was like a classic song we had to practice for piano back in the day so it was so fucking hard and like I literally hated that song because of it I think that's why I kind of like have like a like a hate for the sound of music that I couldn't now like pinpoint until now why I have a love for the sound of music because I think I sing or play or listen to Do Re Mi every single day now since Harry like all of his music like those musical
Starting point is 00:45:31 toys that they have for babies that have like five notes yeah we can play Do Re Mi so I like that's always fun and then I listen to the full version and oh it's Claude it's chock full of fun it's chock full of fun which version do you listen to? Julie Andrews She pops off She put her whole pussy in that song She put her whole pussy in the movie And now honestly I want to watch the movie Because we love a movie musical
Starting point is 00:45:56 Julie put her whole Andrews-y in that film She really really did Love that for her Anyways I'm going gonna be open to this because if i if i if i didn't know this story and i went on netflix and i saw there's a a show called the baroness click yeah you would watch that well i just i'm here for this story because i feel like that was something i was like kind of embarrassed of like i feel like it's like a woman of a certain age and like a jewish woman like i shouldn't know what the kind of embarrassed of. Like I feel like it's like a woman of a certain age and like a Jewish woman.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like I should know what the sound of music is. And like I've never like had the opportunity to ask. And now I did. No, I think there's there's definitely something that's confusing how it's about like music and education. Like Nazis. And Nazis. I totally agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And honestly, I feel as though if it weren't for the amazing film, The Pacifier with Vin Diesel, like I really wouldn't know half the shit that I knew up until this moment about that film. That's beautiful. That movie is so good. Star studded too. Lauren Graham, Vin Diesel. Love it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 That's it. Oh, and Rodgers and Hammerstein did the music for Sound of Music. So of course it popped off. That's how you know it's like legit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Maybe I'll check it out again. And we'll see you when the baroness comes out yep for a full roasting of this is us x the crown are you ready for our fifth and final story already yeah it's a little shakira drama i am keeping up okay so shakira is going through a
Starting point is 00:47:23 divorce with her ex-husband because she discovered that she cheated on him. And there was like all of these. No, he cheated on her. I'm sorry. That's what I meant. He cheated on her. And there's all of these things that like she's doing and the mother-in-law's house
Starting point is 00:47:34 and like a witch on the balcony. On the balcony. But she took aim at him in her new music video where there's a severed head in her fridge of her ex-husband. And we find out how she discovered he was cheating on her did you hear this no okay so Shakira reportedly discovered her ex's affair by finding a clue hidden in their fridge the singer who split oh yes sorry I did hear this the jam from the footballer in June after 11 years together realized her ex was having an affair when she discovered a jar of strawberry jam had been eaten while she was away so she said that um or it's
Starting point is 00:48:13 known that and no one in the no one else in the family liked the jam that was in the fridge and then she went away and came back and the jam had been fully eaten. I just want to say like the fault in this story is like why would you keep a container of jam in your house that nobody in your family likes? That you like. Oh Shakira liked the jam? Yeah yeah I think so. So it's like it's Shakira's jam and like if anybody. So she's the only one who would eat it. Yeah that's I mean that's super sleuthy and that's not something that her husband would know to like clean up his tracks to get rid of yeah so that's crazy no and by the way it's one thing to be like fucking another woman but it's another for the woman to be in your house going through your fridge like that's like a
Starting point is 00:48:53 relationship using your jam like yeah making herself toast like if it was just like a one-time thing like you probably wouldn't fuck at your own house and she definitely wouldn't be going through the kitchen looking for you know snacks in the middle of the night yeah I love them I would love to know what type it's in her house yeah that's what I'm saying I would also love for like Shakira to come out of this with like a smucker sponsorship you know or whatever brand it was yeah I was trying to look at the brand it it doesn't look like a brand but it does kind of look similar to Bon Maman. Yeah, but also, where does Shakira live? I don't think she lives in America. It could be like an international brand.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Right, well, Bon Maman is international. And do you know that they hid Jews in their factory during the Holocaust? I did know that about the Bon Maman jam. It's like the jam that has the cap that looks like a picnic table. That's what this Shakira jam looked like. Oh, so it's Bon Maman. But there was no label. Maybe one of her kids peeled it off.
Starting point is 00:49:48 It also kind of looks like something like a jam she may have made herself. That is fucked up if she made that shit by herself with the preservatives and everything. Yeah. Wait, tell the Bon Maman Holocaust story again. Oh, I mean, there was this meme, not a meme, but anything that's text on an Instagram,
Starting point is 00:50:03 I call a meme. But there was this card going around, like the bon moment factory i guess it's in france it sounds french during the holocaust they hid in the factory which is really beautiful it is and like i'm smuckers loyal but ever since then i pick up a bon moment every now and then i support smuckers is like a little too sugary. No, Smuckers is for children. It's fraudulent. Yeah, I actually buy intentionally.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And because I like it, bon moment. I know. I just like cannot get enough of that strawberry preserves from Smuckers. It's so sugary. It's so good. Like it's fucking crack on a fucking like warm corn muffin. That's probably what Shakira's family likes. And she likes the good stuff. Yeah, she's like, guys, let me give you the good stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Yeah. Totally. She cracked the case. But I do think you have to suspect your husband in order to notice shit like that. A hundred percent. Because also like if you ask me right now, like how much is left in your ketchup bottle?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Like I would have no fucking idea. Yeah. And like to know of things in my house that only I eat actually I do have like there's a lot of things like that yeah like my fiber one bars but I would have just your fiber one bars I would have just assumed I don't know sometimes Ackley clears out the fridge no totally company except jam doesn't expire but anyways no Shakira it's a it's a good it's good work good investigative work on her part but you're right she had to know something was up in order to be like looking for details this small yeah in order like if i saw jam that was eaten and it was
Starting point is 00:51:35 the only thing that i eat in the house and other people don't i wouldn't be like my husband's cheating on me no i would be like oh i must have been eating in the middle of the night again or like oh maybe the shapiros came over kayla wanted to be PB&J wow I was like I don't know I just wouldn't be where my mind wouldn't go there either um well those were great stories thanks Jack so much and don't fret the show is not over because it is Wednesday and we have dear toasters our advice segment so if you ever want to write in and get your thing read on air, we will always keep it anonymous. We'll always read your thing. Your thing. And the email is deertoasters at gmail.com.
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Starting point is 00:55:32 but we are more than ready to sign a lease with each other in the next few months right before we plan on getting engaged. The problem is my parents are extremely traditional. They've expressed many times how disappointed they would be if I lived with someone before we were married. They love my boyfriend so much and they want us to be married, but I don't have the same views on as them. And I want to live with him before marriage. My question is, do I live with my boyfriend before we are engaged slash married and possibly
Starting point is 00:55:58 start our marriage out on a bad note with my parents, but we'd be setting boundaries now that I will make my own decisions? Or do I go against what we both want slash see for ourselves just to please my parents thanks so much for your help i love you both p.s my boyfriend is extremely patient and has put the ball in my court but is willing to have difficult combos with my parents if need be sincerely a toaster who loves her parents and her man and who's in a predicament i don't know they've been together for five years i i will say like I'm coming at this from you know a more conservative POV like I didn't live with Ben until we were engaged yeah
Starting point is 00:56:29 that was something like that I was told had to be done but also something like I was down for like that's just how that was like a rule in our house yeah and I agree with it I feel like if you can wait to move in with him until you're engaged like that's kind of meeting your parents halfway and also be like being modern and being true to yourself but it sounds like you're about to get engaged in the next few months and you're about to move in together in the next few months like I think that would also kind of put a fire under your boyfriends but they kind of need like these like benchmarks that like okay we have to be engaged by this time or else like we can't move in together. And like logistically that becomes a clusterfuck. I think the idea of
Starting point is 00:57:10 waiting until you're engaged to move in together is nice. I know it's not for everyone. I know a lot of people feel like you should get to know your partner and how they live before you agree to marry them. Um, I think if you've been with someone for five years, I'm sure you spend a lot of time at his place and vice versa. Like I I I didn't feel like I was spending so many much time over at Zach's when we were dating I didn't I didn't learn anything new about him when we moved in together like I had technically like known his living habits so I don't know how much I agree with that but there are other things aside from you know how sloppy he is like then you're paying bills together and like that just shows you another side of your partner,
Starting point is 00:57:45 which I think to wait until you're married would be really hard. But I think if you can tell your parents, like, I understand where you guys are coming from. We're going to wait till we get engaged. I think that would be a happy medium. And that's also something that like I think is smart. Yeah, it's smart. And then also like then you'll get engaged.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Like, right. right no for sure I think your parents expectation of not wanting you to live with someone until you get married like that's extreme like if you're engaged to someone like you can live with them um and I know some people are probably gonna like really disagree with this like many many people live have very happy relationships and they live with their partners long before they get engaged and I'm just saying speaking from my own experience and it sounds like this girl maybe has like raised in a similar way. Um, I think it's totally reasonable for you to do whatever you want, but I do think like a really happy medium for you, for your parents and for your boyfriend is just to wait until you get engaged to move in
Starting point is 00:58:34 together. It sounds like that. Isn't that crazy? Your parents would be okay with that. And then also, you know, you're engaged and, and it's, it's a lot less stressful to like go in with someone like on finances and bills and a house when you're engaged so yeah that's just us being conservative but that's like low-key like we're very traditional we are and I think that that's nice but it's also more modern because it's not like you're waiting until you're married also I just wanted to say one more thing about it but now I can't remember, but I understand that there's going to be people who like totally disagree with us,
Starting point is 00:59:07 like live with your boyfriend. Of course. And I'm like, if that's what works for you, like. No, but it also depends on what's your relationship with your parents. Like some people,
Starting point is 00:59:16 that's what I was like, the older you get, like really don't really listen to their parents anymore. And some people like always maintain that level of like authority of with their parents in their life. It also just totally depends on what your relationship with your parents is like if you like if you listen to them and like that's something you want to continue to like it's it just depends yeah that's what I was gonna say she said like do you think we should put our foot down now and show them like we're not gonna be living like the way that we
Starting point is 00:59:40 want they want us to live but I feel like once you get married, like that's, you're more of, you know, an adult, your own person, as opposed to, you know, it's very traditional to go from like your parents' house and then you're married. But like, then you guys are making choices as a married couple. I think to like, let them know now we're putting our foot, you can't tell us what to do just like for that,
Starting point is 00:59:58 for the sake of it. You can, you can plant your flag in the ground on something else when you need to. Like, I don't think just because you listen to them halfway on this doesn't mean they expect you to do what they say for the rest of your life. Yeah. Agreed. Okay, so this next one is the one I feel personally invested in and, like, kind of offended by
Starting point is 01:00:16 and, like, I'm kind of going to drag this girl who wrote it. Hi, Jackson Claude. I really need your advice. My boyfriend and I are on the brink of being engaged and I could not be happier. He's the man of my dreams and I can't wait to be his wife. I only have one advice. My boyfriend and I are on the brink of being engaged and I could not be happier. He's the man of my dreams and I can't wait to be his wife. I only have one concern, his parents. The four of us just went on a long trip together
Starting point is 01:00:31 and I couldn't help but notice how much they bicker. It was happening multiple times on a daily basis and it was extremely uncomfortable. Whenever I'd look over to my boyfriend to see his reaction, he didn't even flinch. It's very obvious that this is normal behavior for them and my boyfriend has been used to it for years, if not his whole life. I have extreme anxiety and this that this would that this is what he would expect our marriage to be like. My parents rarely bicker
Starting point is 01:00:53 or fight in front of me and my siblings so I'm not really sure how to handle this environment. I obviously know that they fight but they do it behind closed doors which is how I'd like to behave in my future marriage. How do I talk to my boyfriend about this? It's gotten to the point where I've gone completely silent at dinner when we're with his parents and they're bickering because my anxiety is through the roof i don't want to offend him or make him think i don't love his family it's such a sensitive topic and i'm really scared he will not be open to the conversation please help i wouldn't be open to the conversation bitch it's literally none of your business like yeah first of all like now you being judgmental of like a 40 year marriage, like take a seat,
Starting point is 01:01:25 take a seat. Okay. Second of all, like once again, I'm out here like constantly trying to change the narrative when it comes to bickering, like bickering is normal. You know what the Shapiro say?
Starting point is 01:01:36 They say bickering is a form of communication. It is. It's also a love language. Like I told you guys that I recorded an, uh, an episode when I was in LA in interview with someone who's like very like legit. I didn't say who it was, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:52 We did a whole segment on relationships. And I said to him, like, I've never been like self-conscious about me and Ben's bickering. Like it's always been funny. And like, it's really how we communicate. But ever since, you know, we started this podcast and then he would come on, like people would give a shit for it like I started to feel like maybe I'm like being a bitch and he really made me feel so good about it he was like literally
Starting point is 01:02:11 like fighting a relationship where you don't fight you don't exist like it's not real so first of all I think you're being really judgmental of like someone else's marriage especially like it's literally none of your business no and especially like grown older people. Like I hate when younger people tell older people how to act. And it's like, talk to me after a 40 year marriage. Exactly. I also think bickering in public is healthier than like hiding it. In general, I think just like if you have nothing to hide,
Starting point is 01:02:40 like it's probably better than someone who's hiding something. Yeah. My overall takeaway from this is like, why do you care? You know you know you're about to get engaged it should be like the happiest time of your life like you're you're stewing about something that has literally nothing to do with you it doesn't really affect your life like if you get uncomfortable by it at dinners all right so you have an uncomfortable dinner with your in-laws once a month you don't have dinner every night together right I don't understand why so much of your energy is being put towards these two people the only thing that I would say like I could understand where she's coming from it's like
Starting point is 01:03:08 she's worried that that's how he will approach relationships because that's what he's seen which I think is very fair I think a lot of people you know they see something at home and then they repeat it um but then that's on you to like forge a different path with your husband and like bickering bickering is a two-way street so like if you're not bickering with him like there will be no bickering but see that's a conversation worth having just being like you know expressing concern about like how you two will communicate as opposed to being like your parents are bickering and I'm uncomfortable like you just sound like a distressed millennial yeah but I also like, I think it's easy for people at the outset of marriage to be like, we're not going to bicker.
Starting point is 01:03:49 We're going to solve our problems. You know, we're going to communicate. It's very fantastical. Good luck with that. And then like, seriously, I want to hear from them in 40 years. I'm going to set a timer on my phone for 40 years. I'm going to write her back and say, what do you think about bickering? Yeah, no, I just think this is like a naive point of view. And I really would encourage you like not to waste your time and energy on this. Like this is supposed to be like a beautiful time in your life. Focus on your man. Like you're thinking way too much about your in-laws and how they communicate.
Starting point is 01:04:15 A, it's none of your business. And B, like you aren't like affected by it. And just focus that energy on steering your relationship outside of the bickering zone. If that's really important to you and you don't like that dynamic which I do get that especially if she did not grow up with it yeah um and maybe it's you know like Adrian and Paul that to me is just like when bickering goes too far so so yeah what if her in-laws imagine her in-laws are Adrian and Paul like no yeah and that's and that's really uncomfortable but it's not your problem. Like not even in the slightest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:45 So I would just focus on showing your husband a better way. Yeah. If you don't like it, don't do it. Okay. Ready for our last one? Yep. My queens. So I recently rekindled things with this guy from a few years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:58 When we first started talking, he told me he was fresh off of a breakup. We've now been dating a few months, but something has felt off. Me being a little skeptical and curious, I asked my friend to follow his ex on her Finsta because she's private. I'm new to this creeping thing. We found his ex. We got her to accept the request and realized that they are not only still together, but they live together and also just celebrated three years.
Starting point is 01:05:21 What do I do? I only know he's cheating on her because I use this fake account. Do I DM her for my real account, the fake account? How do I confront him? I'm going to come across as a crazy bitch for having used a fake account to stalk her to get this information. Help. Sincerely a toaster who will be ending things, but like, how do I go about this? Okay. So the man she's seeing for three months who told her he like went through a breakup has actually still been with the girl and is actually engaged to the girl. I mean's gonna break up with him but does she tell the girl I don't know what my philosophy on this is you know my philosophy is write a letter always
Starting point is 01:05:54 anonymous letter no because an anonymous letter like you want to ask so many more follow-up questions it's not it's not credible it's not credible you have more questions it's not just something you're gonna take at face value it could be explained away like he could be like you know I have these crazy ex-girlfriends like it could be explained away and you're not there to defend like I I don't I need to decide what I think is like the right thing to do in these situations girl code or mind your own goddamn business not your fucking problem but i would want to know bitch you you can't you gotta tell her like it's just yeah i'm gonna go with what i would want i would want to know wouldn't you especially if you're not even like
Starting point is 01:06:39 they're not married yet they don't have kids like they're on the precipice like it's not too late I would so now it's how does she tell her um why don't you follow her from your own account follow her from your own account have her accept it and be like you could also send her a message without following her yeah but send proof be like I am shook I just found this out I was like stalking you not to be a freak but because I had like a feeling like and I found out that you guys are literally engaged and still together you never broke up and I think you should know we've been dating for the last three months here's pictures of us from last week I have nothing to gain from this I am breaking up with him I just wanted you to know because I see that you're engaged and what she wants to do with that information you can't make someone see the truth what she wants to do with that information you can't make someone see the truth what she wants to do with that information is her business but you did the right thing and you can bow out
Starting point is 01:07:28 peacefully agreed yeah you got to tell her follow her be direct it's time yeah yeah no I I often struggle between like what's the right thing to do and like what's my business yeah but this is both. Yeah. I think telling her 100%. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't tell her. Same. Same. Well, thank you to everyone who wrote in and got vulnerable with us. Sorry if some of you had to hear the hard truth. That email account is deartoasters at gmail.com.
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