The Toast - Grigio Girls: Tuesday, January 28th, 2025

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

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Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a gargy, bargy day. Speaking of gargy, bargy, it's Jacqueline Follet, jerked, if you will. I am having a gargy, bargy day because I'm in a gargy, bargy environment with a gargy, bargy gal. It's day two of new toast era. Obviously, so much has changed.

We hear you, you guys. My audio was piece of shit on a stick yesterday. Like, I'm sorry, I will go jump off the Queensborough bridge. I'm so sorry. We have made some adjustments. It's gonna be a work in progress. So Jackie and I can get our audios totally matching, but today should be a lot better.

I know, you know, if it's not, you will let me know. And we also got some feedback that I actually agreed with, wishing that, you know, you could see our gargipargi faces a little bit more. So today's episode. That's all they had to say. We want to see more of your faces. We're having a hard time seeing you.

So we're punching in. We're punching in. We're punching in. Today's episode, like I said, it's gonna be a little dance until we get everything 100% right. But to be in such a gargoyle environment, I feel really will yield results of garginess.

Yeah, no, it's definitely, I've got my podcasting hat on. Oh, okay. You're going to wear this hat to the party tonight? I will always wear this hat to the party tonight, but are you just, I don't know, do you think it will change the tone of the show being in such like a studio? I don't think so, but I do think it will take us a long time to find our footing because I still feel different. I still feel like I'm in someone else's living room. I feel like seriously strange. And by the end of yesterday's show, like it obviously worn off,

but like it was the first like 40 minutes that I still felt weird. Yeah, and we've never done such an abrupt change, not to do Toast at a Glance, not to do it, but this kind of requires a bit of Toast at a Glance-ness, because every other studio change was like born of necessity. I move it and then I put up wallpaper. We hadn't moved into a new place since June 2020 and we hadn't like made choices since then so it's just given like the the changing nature of our lives. Choices are being made. That's what all the choices have been made.

Now I'm so paranoid so I just wanted to quickly check with you. Your camera, no, no, but- Red button. Red button. Red button on the bottom right, right? Yeah. There's only one camera light. Yeah. To the bottom right of the lens.

Yeah. I am so paranoid. Today's the first day we're on our own. Yesterday, we had all of our fancy people coming and helping us, and they taught us how to do everything. And today's really a test of what Jackson Turd can do. It's true training wheels are off Speaking of our fans and people we posted a vlog last night on our patreon of the whole behind the scenes of the setting up process It starts with claude in new york

She vlogged her studio transformation and a bit of her move and then I flogged flogged. I did flog it Did flog by the way, we've been meaning to talk about that. My home studio transformation. So it's a Paragy dual vlog. We really put our heads together and you can watch it on patreon.com slash the toast. Yes. You'll get a little behind the scenes of my new studio. I have done a studio tour in the old OG studio. We both did. It was very MTV crib style. So that one, if you guys want to go watch it, because a lot of people want to see the old studio, you'll see it in the new vlog, but there is like a full proper tour. And then my new space, which I probably won't do a tour for a really long time.

I'm waiting on so much furniture. It will not be done for a really long time, but this specific corner where I create art, and this is kind of like my artist studio. In your own little corner, in your own little square, you can be. When you think of Cinderella. Which one do I think of?

Who is your Cinderella? That's a good question. When you think of Cinderella. Which one do I think of? Who is your Cinderella? That's a good question. When I think of that song, of course I think of Brandy. Of course. But when I think of Cinderella, honestly I think about the animated character. Yeah. Not Lily James.

Not Robert King of the North. Excuse me? Robert Madden, is that his name? Oh, oh yeah, yeah, Robert King of the North. When I think of King of the North, I think of like the enormous like Hagrid, Robert Baratheon, King of the North. No.

Oh wait no, he was literally not even the King of the North, hold on. Robert Baratheon was in the show for two minutes. The King, no but he was also just like the regular King. Yeah, he was the regular King, no. Robb Stark, was in the show for two minutes. The king, nobody was also just like the regular king. Yeah, he was the regular king. No, Robb Stark, King in the North. Yeah, that's like an interesting piece of history, Robert Madden, how like his career like truly went nowhere.

No, that's not true. He's in that show or movie, The Bodyguard. He's always nominated for shit. What else? Like seriously, what else? Cinderella. Okay. He's actually like one of the ones

who made it out of Game of Thrones. There are so few. He's mid tier. He's mid tier. Like top tier is obviously, which so crazy, somebody who was in the show for 30 seconds, Jason Momoa. Amelia Clarke, she was doing the damn thing for a while, but I think she like kind of is over it. It seems like she gave up.

Sophie Turner, of course. I would say those are the three. Yeah. And she- Gwendolyn Christie, don't sleep on Gwendolyn Christie. She's like doing stuff. Brienne of Tarth, Oathkeeper. Yeah.

Yeah. I agree with that. Peter Dinklage, Wicked. Oh, oh, Peter Dinklage. Though he wants no association with the movie. Yeah, he's not doing much press. Maybe if they cast you in a movie as the worst character too, you wouldn't want to.

And you had the only song on the album that's a skip. Like, yeah, you wouldn't want to show up. My God. When I'm listening to the Wicked album and Peter Dinklage starts talking like Sam Hunt. Something bad is happening in us. I can't even repeat it. I like I move so quickly to the skip button. I've actually hidden that song on the album so that I go straight from like Wizard and I to Dancing Through Life. Shall we quickly just take a turn into the Department of Corrections? Something I wanted to correct from yesterday's episode that I found hysterical is actually Dexter Morgan, the person who penned the change.org petition to have Dora,

Dorjah Cat or whatever, Dora Jar? Dora Jar. Dora Jar removed from the Gracie Abrams tour. He's actually not a person, it's a fictional character. Dexter Morgan is Dexter. So we said it sounded like a TV character shows name and we were right, so. So someone didn't put their whole dextasy

behind that change.org position. They did not put their whole dextasy behind that change.org position. They did not put their whole dextasy. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you. So show your face. Show yourself. Show your face. Glad to have cleared that up.

What else did you do last night? Yesterday was such a busy day with post prod. Didn't you find? So busy, so busy, such a busy day with post prod. Yesterday's episode was slightly delayed. Obviously Jackie and I are getting our, you know, our new normal in order. So we will get back to our quick uploads. It's just been, um, it's been a journey because everything's changed. We're on track today. Like I don't want to jinx anything, but like we started on time. So I think we're-

We should be okay. At least for audio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So like yesterday, I agree it was like super stressful. And it was great. I'm just like so loving this new life for myself. Like I've just sort of created a new life. You ever know, do you know that feeling?

I do. Because you've also created a new life. I have created a new life. What does your new life entail? Like a shorter commute, a par G studio. Like I'm going to make like a cute little office here. I'm just like excited about what the future holds. Cultivating a vibe.

Yeah. Oh my God. I got woken up this morning, like before my alarm, so annoying by actually like a crazy acrobat in my belly. I've never experienced anything like that in my life. I thought there was an earthquake. Like my whole stomach, I wish I could have seen it because I'm sure like my stomach was like, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, like a basketball.

Like it was the craziest thing I've ever felt in my life. And it wasn't like uncomfortable per se, but it wasn't, it wasn't pleasant. And that was the baby? Oh, I hope so. As opposed to like the bowels? Yeah, no, no, oh yeah, I didn't have diarrhea. Thank you. I guess that was confusing.

No, there was a baby in there. That's so cute. Like real kicks and movement. Really crazy. That's so exciting. And then I entered a new week yesterday, you know, on those apps. Mondays are your days for updates? Exactly. So I checked and I just want to say with each, I used to really look forward to checking it's like, oh, great, lentil. And now I feel every time with each, I used to really look forward to checking. It's like, oh, grape, lentil.

And now I feel every time I check, I'm even more confused and lost than I was the week prior because it feels like we're not moving in a linear way. We're not getting bigger or heavier. Like it goes from like, first of all, I've gotten grapes twice. And I guess it was like a bundle of grapes versus one grape. It's just, they make it needlessly confusing

and also like anatomically confusing because- Well, it's hard because a baby isn't a fruit. Yes, I'm aware, but I just feel like they could be doing a better job. No, no, no, I'm just saying like it's hard to keep coming up with fruits that are the same like inches and do they do it by weight? So now I'm learning,

because I was complaining about this on my Instagram, that it's by length. Because I'm like, how the hell is a baby a banana? Yeah, after just being an avocado, which is very dense. And round. Yeah. So it's all about length. And to be completely honest, of all the facts I could learn about my baby, its length is

not something I'm particularly interested in, honestly. Yeah. Well, that's to do with, that's helpful for for the size and then you get the weight at the- At the doctor's appointments. And also, I don't know at what point in your pregnancy you stopped calling the baby it. I haven't reached that point yet. Well, I feel like later in pregnancy

I came up with like a name that it was going by. Like first was LC and then the second pregnancy was Larry. Don't forget about Larry. I loved that. I loved when we were calling your unborn baby Larry. Yeah, yeah, I loved that. I loved when we were calling your onboard baby Larry. Yeah, I feel like you're gonna get to a place somewhere like you have the nickname. It just, it's like all nicknames.

We've been calling it baby. That's nice too. Yeah, and it, obviously. It works. Can't forget about it. Yeah. Have you? You look so sweet today. I look sweet?

It's, you know, we have to dress differently for these chairs. They're very deep. We're being shot at a different angle. You see shoe. Yesterday I looked so short. So I got a throw pillow today and update. My coccidinia like wasn't flaring up so terribly

during yesterday's episode. I also saw that you said on the vlog that you need to use your coccidinia pillow in this chair, but you don't. The pillow will sink and get lost. I'll see if I end up needing it. I'm obviously gonna start without because it's so fucking ugly.

I need to get like a pillow maker to match the linen of this chair to my coccidinia pillow. Like I refuse to sit on that big, oh my God. I just have to tell you the funniest thing. I just have to tell you the funniest thing. I was going out to lunch yesterday because I wanted to pat myself on the back for a job well done in our new studio. So I took myself out to lunch by because I wanted to pat myself on the back for a job well done in Arno's studio.

So I took myself out to lunch by myself. Where'd you go? And so what do you do? Just like a small cafe, you know? Somewhere new or the same old? Same old, like one of my local spots. Okay. Like nothing truly.

I won't put you on glass, just like wondering the vibe. Like, yeah. And so I was by myself and obviously I had nothing to do. So I started like listening to people's conversations and I was stuck between two equally uninteresting conversations, I was just like, where do I go from here? And I feel like there must have been nearby a local event for Holocaust Remembrance Day

because the people in the restaurant were all just giving older and Jewish. And a lot of people were wearing the yellow ribbon, the hostage pin, I was like, there was an event nearby that just got out, I could just feel it. like, there was an event nearby that just got out. I could just feel it. So I don't know. That's not relevant to the ladies sitting next to me are two women.

One of them is like very, very old grandma vibes. And one of them is like, you know, like an older mom. I would say she's like 40 or 50, you know? And the younger one says, I start listening and she goes to her friend. She goes, oh my God, you remind me so much of my friend who just passed away. And I could tell she immediately was like, oh shit, that's not something you say to a person who's actually close to passing away.

She was like, not in the old sense, in the wise sense. I'm like, yeah, sure lady, good luck cleaning that up. It was seriously so awkward. I was dying. I need to start listening to people's conversations more often. They're so interesting. And I was telling Ben, I was like, by the way, that should be one of your like whattya nuts is.

You know? I'm always like nominating things for whattya nuts. He never chooses mine. So I was like, fuck it, I'll tell it on my podcast. Yeah, we could have our own segment. We could. Called whattya futz. I thought you were gonna say, what are you fucking nuts?

But yeah, no, I'm always like, that's such a good what are you nuts moment. And I know he keeps something in his- That's so nice of you, I just wanna say. That you're keeping an ear out for what are you nuts. He keeps a list in his phone and like, whenever something happens, he'll like write it down. And whenever I share mine with him,

I've never seen him write them down. To bust out the list. But I thought that was a good one. What are you nuts? That's rude. Yeah, I guess he didn't have that like strong reaction because he didn't hear it in person, but that is really odd.

It's a what are you nuts moment. It's a what are you nuts moment. The stories today are what? Because we have Dear Toasters. We don't have what are you nuts, we have Dear Toasters. Honestly, Dear Toasters is another version of what are you nuts? Because there's always one person in the situation who's truly deranged.

It's true. I kind of love that for us. So what you're saying is we actually invented what are you nuts? It's true. Love that. He could be mining deer toasters for candidates. He could. How are they today?

They're good actually. I combed through our inbox looking for an update from the girl who wrote in last week about her husband and that circle of nude photos. We haven't heard from her. I'm sure she's dealing with a lot. So obviously like zero pressure. I'm sure she like, you know,

hasn't even listened to this week's episodes. She's probably so she doesn't even know we moved into a new studio. To be honest, like dear toasters will never be the same after that. Like I think she broke Dear Toasters. I know, even when I was going through submissions for today, my bar has been raised to like a crazy level.

I, nobody's submissions today are even remotely as close, but they're like, you know, normal people craziness. No, and it's like until she gives us an update, like we're all just kind of stuck on that. Like Dear Toasters is on pause. Not saying that we're not doing Dear Toasters. Like I would never, we've learned our lessons. But we're all just kind of frozen by this.

Yeah, and like, I think that as a community, we collectively like haven't moved from Dear Toasters since that girl wrote in about like the guy hoarding water bottles in her office. And now like we had finally like just started to move on from that as a community. And then this happens and we're just sort of stuck again. We're at a standstill.

Yeah. So I'll be curious to see what the girlies have brought for us today. You know, I hate to be the, like, you know, giving you notes but remember we did say we want to sit more in the middle of our chairs. You just look like you're skewing a little side. Well actually, my booty.

It doesn't do you. I just was reminding you. No, yesterday, well also because Broody was here yesterday. Yesterday I was literally in the slot on the side, like he took up the whole chair. You were almost out of frame. Today my booty is in the middle, but I do, if I may, sip on that lean,

cause I'm leanin'. Oh, sip on that lean, girl. I'm sippin' on that lean. So we have Dear Toasters and the stories are. This is me sipping on that lean. So we have Dear Toasters and the stories are. This is me sipping on that lean. What is lean? Like cough syrup? Yeah, like perp.

One more spoon of cough syrup now, whoa. Whoa. Okay, I'm sitting more centered. Now coming up, now coming up. That's like probably one of the best, I know you probably don't have like an answer in your pocket to this question because you're like mentally stable,

but what's like your favorite Glee cover? Sat bottom girls. That's a really good answer. And it's definitely in like my top 10 as well. But a lot of people's favorite Glee cover is Darren Criss doing cough syrup. They say it's better than the original. Let me tell you that will never,

Darren Criss would never be like my number one. Do you have beef with Blaine? No, I just like don't relate like he's not like, I don't relate to him so much. Like the things that he did except for firework like don't really stand out in my memory. Who is your least favorite character on Glee? Oh, I don't want to be rude. I don't want to be rude because in real life, like they're probably the only ones that I that would hear this. Okay.

So it's either back at Tobin Kitty, which is obviously not, you know, Tina Cohen Chang. Oh my God. And Jenna ushkowitz is a toaster. You guys know I recently recorded an episode of a podcast. Make sure to check it out. Even though it's like not a knock on Jenna because. Of course not. But she's not Tina, but seriously it's Tina and Artie.

It's Tina and Artie. Well, both of them, both of the hosts of the Glee podcast that I just. Right, the only people who've ever supported us. Like that's why I didn't want to say it. The only people who have ever platformed us. Like yes, they were my favorite characters. Wow.

I wish you had told me that before going on the Glee podcast so I could have shared that with them, kind of an exclusive on my episode. I haven't rewatched Glee in a lot of years, so the feelings aren't fresh, but I just remember like that was frustrating to me. No, for sure. Tina Cohen Chang was like low key the worst.

She faked having a lisp, like that's literally so ableist. And then was like best friends with an actually disabled person. And like, is my disability a joke to you? I agree with you completely. And Artie actually, I didn't dislike Artie. I didn't, but Tina Cohen Chang as a character, although like when you are on the journey of the Glee Club,

like members are always leaving. They're almost like, they have to have 12 members for sectionals and they're always like hanging on to like 11. And Tina Cohen Chang is one of the OG members. She's in the very first episode. She's one of the first five members with Finn and Rachel and Artie, Artie also. So there is something to stay about like their loyalty

to the Glee Club. No, I think then she was on a power trip. She was like one of those seniors who like was so picked on as a freshman in sophomore. Like, and the only thing that makes her powerful is being a senior. who was so picked on as a freshman and sophomore. And the only thing that makes her powerful is being a senior and they're gonna use that against you. They're actually, I believe is an episode

like about that sort of senioritis attitude from the seniors and Tina sort of leads the pack. You're a hundred percent right about that. Senioritis. Yeah, senioritis. What I would do to like experience senioritis again. Yeah. Where you just like, your whole life is in front of you.

No, but the crash from senioritis is so real. Like I wouldn't want to have that looming. And I think that's why people really act out with their senioritis because they know they're about to like. It's a cry for help. They're about to go back to the bottom of the heap. Whether you're a high school senior and you're gonna be a college freshman

or you're a college senior and now you have to like enter the real world. That's why they're so angry and pompous. So you think senioritis is more of a cry for help? Yes, I do. Who's your least favorite character on Glee, now that you put me on the spot to talk trash? Oh, well it's Kurt, obviously.

Cause I also recently rewatched an episode where Kurt's dad has a heart attack and the Glee Club is so there for them. And they're really there for them in a spiritual way. And the Glee Club is quite diverse. So they have members from all backgrounds and religions. So they're all just like offering their particular prayers. But they can.

Their prayers. And Kurt is obviously like having like a moment with God. So he like is rejecting not only the prayers, but people's kindness and he acts. And of course, when you go through tragedy, like you act however you wanna act, but he's, honestly, like the way he acts is so egregious. But he has his moments.

I think more so I dislike Kurt because every song he sings like is a song I would never choose. I also, from what I remember, dislike Kurt cause he's always like knocking Rachel. Like nobody will, disliked Kurt because he's always knocking Rachel. Nobody will say anything and then he has to insult Rachel and it's like, okay, jealous. He's definitely threatened, but there does come a point in Glee

where the two of them lay down their arms and then become best friends, as they should be. The theater queens and the show gets so much better after that and then of course they move to New York together. So I think Kurt's redemption arc is when he finally leans into what is meant to be. He's destined for greatness, him and Rachel. Like you're 100% right. He hates Rachel.

It's like a jealousy threat. Everyone hates Rachel because they're all jealous of her. Um, but 100% when he finally embraces like that friendship, he becomes such a more tolerable character. Agreed. And that's what you missed on Glee. And that's how Jackie sees it. That is how Jackie sees it.

Now we can talk about why Sue Sylvester is the best character. So you didn't ask me who my favorite character is, but it's obviously Sue Sylvester. Also, I can't believe I said my least favorite character is Kurt when it's actually not. It's Mr. Show. I'm so sorry.

I know that you're- I was thinking of the members of the Glee club. That's like known, you know? Yeah, and when you say like my, I think I said who's your favorite Glee cast member or Glee Club member. Cause there's two different tiers of characters on the show, the members and then the staff.

Obviously Sue Sylvester is the best character and obviously Matthew Morrison is seriously the devil. So yeah, I didn't want to let the segment go on without just acknowledging that. Yeah, no, it's been, I didn't want to let the segment go on without just acknowledging that. Yeah, no, it's been, I don't know, like 20 days since we trashed Matthew Morrison. Actually, it's been way more. No, whenever I did the Glee Club podcast,

that was the last time I trashed Matthew Morrison. Okay. So I think we should dive in, because we have stories, we have dear toasters, and we just have like lots to do, lots on the agenda. We've got a lot of business. So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

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You're welcome. Our first story is what I'm hoping is going to be the last update in the Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively saga. Oh my God, it's not going to be. No, for a while, because they have gotten a trial date for the lawsuit. A New York judge has set a March, 2026 trial date on Monday

and moved an initial conference from mid February to next week as the public feud between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni continues to grow and accelerate. And in a new and separate front in the series of legal battles surrounding the film that became a surprise hit last summer, Blake and his Texas court filed request for a deposition of a man she says was central to turning online sentiment

against her during its release and promotion. The New York federal judge told both sides in an order late Monday to prepare for a March 9th, 2026 trial. So over a year. However, I feel like it soon like this will be on, 2026 trial. So over a year. However, I feel like it soon, like this will be on pause until the trial. That's why I think this-

I don't think so. I think that like, they're gonna use this next year. Like he keeps dropping things. Like the lawyer went on Megyn Kelly. They just dropped a voice memo. They dropped that voicemail. They dropped the pictures from the basement. He will use this next year to really sway public opinion

because like we've said, every time we talk about this, like obviously everybody wants to win the lawsuit, but they also want to win public favor. And he has a plan. And by the way, it's so important to keep in mind, Blake has literally not responded to a single thing yet. So we haven't even heard the retaliation in the public sphere.

Yes. He put out a voice note, two voice notes. He shared that he had sent to Blake at like 2 a.m. while they were filming there from like April, 2023. I've heard bits and pieces like, I'm finding it really hard to like actually listen to and look at the primary source material because it is so cringe.

And I just wanna say something. I feel like some people have guessed or theorized that something happened between them. Like Blake developed a crush or they fell in love, and then Ryan found out, and that's why Ryan was so mad and tried to ruin Justin, and that's why Blake was so, got her feelings hurt, because she had a crush on him and he didn't like her back.

That was the running theory, that Blake liked Justin, and Justin refused her advances, and that's what this whole saga's about. So when I've seen that, like, I feel like that is so simplistic and juvenile and I've kind of dismissed it every time and I still think that that's like not exactly what happened. However, now when I read these texts and I hear the voice

notes, I'm like, they are talking to each other more intimately than two people would. Like when he even said like, I was so excited to have Blake Lively and the whole of you and all of you, like, who the fuck talks like that in a voice note? Like my voice notes are just like um and. I received that. My voice, um, um.

I received that not as those two having any sort of like intimate relationship. I feel like it's a real testament to their character, both as freaks. And as like people who really take themselves so seriously as like artists, like you're literally making a Colleen Hoover movie. That's where I was, but now I'm starting to just

get swept away by all the conspiracy theories. No, certainly not swept away. This is not me being swept away. I'm just like, hmm, maybe there's some sort of romantic element here. Maybe I'm just now giving it more credence because everything that we're seeing, it's just very intimate the way that they speak. That's all I'm saying.

It is. And I think it's more so like reflective of these people in Hollywood who seriously are not normal human beings. They're such weirdos and freaks and like, and they talk in an earnest way like this. Right, and it also just then adds, not that Ryan wouldn't ever defend Blake at all costs anytime, like I feel like if she was wrong, like he would go balls to the walls,

but like if he did feel like he was encroaching on his relationship or that his wife caught feelings for someone else, then he's even madder. But again, I do think it's like a little simplistic. No, people are like, well, Ryan doesn't know. Like Blake told, Blake was mad that Justin did not wanna sleep with her. So she went home and started this rumor

that he sexually harassed her. Like, to be honest, I actually think that's like, that's such an insulting thing to say. Like that a woman's only saying she's being sexually harassed because her advances were turned down. Like that's like in the OG handbook of how to deny someone's like experience.

So I actually, every time I see that I'm like, okay, that's seriously the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, that I don't think is it, but something- Oh, and that Ryan's in the dark on all of this. But something about this is like a little more intimate. To go from like speaking like this to suing each other is very confusing.

It's giving scorned lover. I don't know what it's giving, but I'm curious. But that's why I think I'm gonna watch this whole trial because I cannot parse out what the fuck happened here. And I don't believe in New York courts you can have like televised media. We need this to be televised if they're like the whole we need clarity. I have no clarity now. I'm more confused than I've ever been. A thousand percent and I think that's why people got so invested in the Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial was because they were able to like really listen in

every day and discern for themselves. Like watch the testimony. Yes. And so it's not like we're leaving it up to a magazine to recap it for us. Like we will be in New York. If I'm 90% sure you can't televised a trial, like there's no media, but people like a reporter can sit in

and then write what they heard. But then you're getting someone else's version. A reporter might like recap the fire points that one lawyer made and you'd be like, oh my God, but then they might leave out the fire points another reporter lawyer made and you'd be like, oh my God, but then they might leave out the fire points another reporter made. And they have their biases and the New York times is like being sued

and they're in the midst of this. So I actually don't trust the media on this, shocking. I want the primary source material, no matter how difficult it is to listen to and watch like the footage from the movie and the voice notes and the text messages, like the cringe. But I don't know. I feel like this is really high stakes now and we deserve to know everything and we should know everything.

We do. I don't think that trumps the law, which is that you can't, but I agree. It will really hinder people's ability to think for themselves because this is so divisive if we're not really given 24, like full access to what's going on in that courtroom. Yeah. They need to move it to Virginia, which is where the Amber Heard trial was. Yeah, but anyways, it's in a year.

So I can't imagine it's gonna be like a year more of like every day something dropping. I think it will be quiet for a little bit until trial starts because also don't you like want some things hold back, like to surprise your- Right, but also like Public Favor has really moved away from Blake Lively. Yeah. That I think it would behoove her between now and the trial to respond in some way.

She hasn't said anything since that first complaint. Yeah. So, and oh and by the way once they turn over the text messages to Discovery, like that'll be a whole new wave of media and stories. Right, right. Oh my God. So that's the latest. Are you ready?

Like seriously, I don't envy them. No, no, this is a mess. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. An update on something on our list is that Meghan Markle has delayed new episodes of her archetypes podcast with Lemonada

after postponing her Netflix cookery show. So- I thought you were gonna say she was postponing the Netflix show again, but I literally forgot about Lemonada. I did not forget about Lemonada. Just like- We actually-

You manifested this story. I manifested it? This story? Nobody else was asking what happened to Meghan Markle's Lemonada show except for you. So she's already delayed the release of her Netflix cookery show with Love, Megan from January to March due to the devastating wildfires

in LA and now it appears her podcast with Lemonada media which appeared to tease new episodes at the start of the month will also be delayed. According to Hello Magazine. Why? What? What's the reason? IDK.

Because of the wildfires? They didn't put out a statement, but like if you go and look, they should have been out and then they're not out. Episodes of archetypes have been pushed back. The magazine, Hello Magazine, I don't know how much, you know. They understand that a series of new podcast episodes for Meghan has also been pushed back as a result.

As a result of what? Of the fires, question mark? Because if she was having problems getting this podcast up, which it seems like obviously she has, she should have looped it in with the wildfire delay of the Netflix show being like, I'm delaying all my projects because then nobody could say anything. But to delay something now because of the wildfires when they're, they're not contained per se, but it's much more under control Like people have resumed, you know normal promotion of things. Yeah

It's a it was a mistake she should have looped them all in together Yeah Daily Mail theorizes it's because of that Vanity Fair article about the divorce book or whatever I don't think it's that I think she just doesn't have episodes Yeah, and I think it's more so of the classic Meg and Harry You know right and that's kind of like I know that's something people clown on her about but it is one of my favorite things About her like she doesn't let this sort of Like Stereotype about her like oh Harry and Megan never released their projects

Like if you wanted to sort of beat that, you would release your projects, right? Now here we are at the top of the year, her two projects have both been delayed. Like, I love that she doesn't fight it, you know? She just like, this rumor about her, like she doesn't do anything to dispel it and she don't give a fuck.

Like, cashing in the check before like putting, like delivering your homework, it's just, it's something I actually really admire. Yeah. And I can't stress enough how I will not be listening to the Lemonada podcast, no, like no tea, no shade. I didn't listen to her archetypes podcast. I don't listen to many podcasts.

I don't listen to podcasts, I just make them. So like no tea, no shade. But I imagine there's a contingency of people who've been sort of waiting. Like if Meghan's your girl and she announces a podcast, how excited you are. And those people are just like waiting in a way. Like I'm thinking of Sassy Shorter right now

because I know she's excited for the podcast, you know? Yeah, no, it's definitely tough being like a Meghan fan and just there's a lot of waiting that goes into it. Like wanting to support her projects. Yeah, definitely. She doesn't let you. Imagine being like, we're finally getting the cooking show. Two days till the show, two months.

No, and think about how, like we were excited. Like we're not even huge Meghan fans, but we really wanted to watch that show. Yeah. And like we were disappointed. So imagine if we were people who like ran fan accounts, like real stands. Yeah.

It must be an exhausting job running a Meghan Markle fan account. Like you can't really make any promises. No, you can't. You really can't. Unlike the other fan accounts that make like really concrete. They make change.org petitions.

Like I'm also just curious from a podcasting standpoint, like what this show is going to be. And like the longer she posts ones, it like just the more we don't know. I don't think it's going to be. Is the show page up? Like it can you like, is it just up with the trailer on the podcast app?

I think so, but also I'm sure the old episodes of- It's still archetypes. So I wonder if they're gonna go back to like exploring different archetypes. It's not, by the way, like there's no show page on Apple. Oh, interesting. It's on Spotify still. Archetypes. Yeah. I'm talking about the new Lemonada show. The new Lemonada show is Archetypes. Oh, what? It's her show. She took it to Lemonada.

Oh, she got the name? Yeah. Got it. Okay. Archetypes. So is Archetypes on Apple? Yes. But it says it's Archwell Studios. Oh, it's Lemonada, yeah, okay. So the most recent, yeah, they just have that first season, the Mariah Carey, Serena Williams, Mindy Kaling. Yeah. Oh, but now sales and distribution are done by Lemonada Media. So I guess if you're going and listening to old episodes,

they're making money off of that, because they're selling ads. But I don't know how much the old, like what are these episodes now? How, when did this come out? Like a year and a half ago. Doesn't even say, but I don't know how many people are going back and listening.

I don't know. Well, I guess the Megan fans do have that, that they could always go back and listen. Thank God for like the catalog. Architects catalog. Yeah, the archives. The archives. That's Yeah, the archives. The archives. That's a good name too.

It is a good name. Are you ready? Baby Shipper opens like a library. A library that's empty. Are you ready for our next story, our third story? Yeah, yeah. Oh no, no, no. Ooh, ooh, oh no no no oh yeah a little music news pargy

transition Lady Gaga has unveiled the title cover and release date for her upcoming seventh album wait that's so crazy that I didn't see this no I didn't see it until I was looking for stories like it didn't cross my desk is just a little monster that's worrisome. A little bit. So her new album, her seventh studio album is called Mayhem and it will be released on March 7th. The project will feature 14 tracks, including the previous release songs,

Disease and Die With a Smile with Bruno Mars. Oh, and it realized that that was like her song for her album. I think it's also his song for his album because he has a new album coming out too and I think there's like Collapse. I think they're both putting it on their albums. Right, the Pussy Song, of course. The P song. Okay, so I feel as though Lady Gaga, I don't want to say flop era because it's just one movie, but she commits herself so deeply to things. So, Fuleya Do while the movie is

just like a movie, it was also the last two years of her life and her whole like public persona. And so I'm just like having that association with her. And you forget like that she is that bitch, right? She's lived so many different lives and she has so many different careers and she's never really had like a flop music career. Although I think some people would consider Joanna flop, but we would not. We're not those people. I think the flop is considered art pop. And then I do think history has been kind to art pop. That's the thing. It's like at the time art pop didn't do well, but now it's reflected on as like one of the most genius albums of pop work in our time. Like yeah and Joanne just like didn't do well and people like never went back and took a second look because if they did they would see

you know so much to work with. You can't call Joanne a flop. It just means you didn't listen to it. Oh my god it's so true and you, not to go on my celebrity documentary, Tyra, but she is doing Joanne while making the five foot two documentary on Netflix about the Superbowl. And so it's not about Joanne, it's about like her Superbowl performance, but you do get a glimpse into just like the process of Joanne

and how Joanne got leaked. And like, I just think if you're looking for ways to support and respect Joanne, you would watch that documentary. Or you would stream Joanne. Yeah, but for some people, like clearly that's difficult because they don't do it. Take my hand,

stay Joanne. Claudia, I'm adding that to things to listen to at length. Yes. Among, like I can't listen to Lady Gaga as an artist because it's all so different if I want like one mood, even though I love Lady Gaga, like seriously I'm a little monster. What is your favorite song off of Joanne?

Greasio Girls maybe? Yeah, Greasio Girls. Bein' a Greasio Girls, also Diamond Heart, so good. Perfect Illusion. Perfect Illusion is Joanne? Yeah. Like sometimes we don't deserve Lady Gaga. Anyways, here's the tea on the new album.

She said, The album started as me facing my fear of returning to the pop music my earliest fans love. She said, Rather than simply creating the sound of her early hits, she describes her new album style as being akin to reassembling a shattered mirror. Even if you can't put the pieces back together perfectly, you can create something beautiful and whole in its own new way. Per the release, Mayhem is about chaos and transformation, celebrating music's power

to unite, provoke, and heal. Okay, maybe I sound crazy and delusional, but it does sound like this is heavily influenced by Joanne. Like, no, let me tell you why. Because she said she's going back to like her OG pop because, you know, the natural progression of her career took her to Joanne. She's always been the type of artist

just like follow her gut and like do what she thinks is best and make the best possible music. And that took her to Joanne and people didn't want it. She's like, okay, fine, we'll go back and make Born This Way. Okay, I just wanna say she did put out an album after that, Chromatica, don't forget. Rain On Me, except it was a COVID album

and it didn't get the love it deserved because we were not popping our post-seeds. At the club, it's a club album. It's like literally for the clubs. Rain On Me is so amazing. It's so, so amazing. That album was really good. So I feel like that album was like her coming back to pop

from Joanne. So this coming back to prop from coming back to pop during COVID, okay. However you wanna explain it. I definitely forgot about Rain On Me. You're right in that whole era, but I guess she's kind of had like two back to back albums that didn't go her way.

One, because people refused to wake up on Joanne and two because of COVID. She didn't make music for COVID. She should have released Joanne and two, because of COVID, she didn't make music for COVID. She should have released Joanne during COVID. Because we were all Grigio girls. Joanne was a bit ahead of its time because I feel like that sort of music now is very popular.

Kacey Musgraves, Maggie Rogers, like movie, country pop. She was ahead of her time as she always is because she's a true artist. That's actually a really brilliant point. Had she released Joanne during COVID when people were like eating up folklore type music. Folklore. Like think about all the people who needed to hear like Grigio girls while sitting on their couch

for a whole year. Yeah. So her timing is off, but she's kind of like William Shakespeare in that sense, not appreciated in her own time. She is appreciated, but she's always ahead of her time, because she is like such a true artist. Visionary. So her timing is off, but she's kind of like William Shakespeare in that sense, not appreciated in her own time. She is appreciated, but she's always ahead of her time because she is like such a true artist.

Visionary. Also don't forget, then she was taken to do Star is Born soundtrack after Joanne. So she was like busy with that. And then she did- House of Gucci. Yep, and then Hold My Hand, Maverick. Hold My Hand, I'm so glad you just brought that up. Totally went under the radar because I think when you think about that Top Gun Maverick. Hold my hand. I'm so glad you just brought that up.

Totally went under the radar. Cause I think when you think about that Top Gun, Maverick album, the song that comes to mind, that was like so big is the One Republic one. I can't remember. Do you know what I'm talking about? I ain't worried. I ain't worried about it right.

That song like went number one in every country. It was like the biggest song and it was so good. And I think it was also the song playing when Miles Taylor was doing his naked dance on the beach, which I understand like the impact. So, Hold My Hand, which Lady Gaga contributed to that soundtrack did get a little bit overlooked and it's disgraceful.

Cause I don't know if there was a better song made this century. And I'm just, I'm honestly saying that. I agree and Hold My Hand got nominated for like all of the awards for best-seller songs. And she didn't win and she should have won. And that's why like these awards can't be taken seriously. It's so true.

They're genuinely meaningless. Like remember that Hold My Hand didn't win. Just remember that. Yeah. I mean, I don't need to remember it because I think about it every morning when I wake up. Then she did Falea Do music, which is like a musical. Falea flop.

And now Mayhem. And I'm ready, like I'm ready for Lady Gaga making, doing red carpet, doing press. Like I just, I love her. She's such a talent. We don't quite appreciate her when we have her. We don't. And I'm probably a part of that too,

cause she's like, she is so crazy. But that's what it takes to be an artist. I am also like ready for her to return to music. I like Lady Gaga the pop star more than I like Lady Gaga the actress. And so funny because I feel like a lot of comparisons are made now between like her and Ariana Grande. And I happen to prefer Ariana Grande as an actress

than a pop star. In this moment, I like what she's doing and I understand why she wants to do more of it. Yeah. Okay, well, see you. Oh, you know what? I'm gonna add that to my countdown. Mayhem, March 7th.

Yeah, because it feels like it's not being put, where's the machine? Like the industry is not putting Lady Gaga on our radar. I haven't even heard about her in music. Yeah, well, now I think this is the beginning of the machine. The machine just like got finished being built. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story? Yes. Spencer Pratt has passed on a Watch What Happens Live appearance after Andy Cohen's past Heidi Montag diss. Yes, I saw this. So Spidey won't be

appearing on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen anytime soon. As Heidi's career is making a comeback, fans took to social media to suggest she become Bravo's newest addition to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. While some may be crossing their fingers for her return to television, her husband Spencer was quick to shut down any possibility for her to hold a diamond. He said no thanks. He also said another one asked if they would ever appear on Watch What Happens Live. He said, the person who said he would rather

scratch his eyes out than watch my wife, hard pass. He was saying this on Twitter, right? He was like answering fan questions. Yeah, so then someone else was like, they would be lucky to be on Watch What Happens Live. He said, Elo, yeah, so lucky the guy that bashes my wife, gonna be so lucky to sit with him, rather sit in my burned house or a pool.

Here's the thing, and this is exactly why I made Spencer Pratt the Queenie of my week like two weeks ago. Not only because he's like being funny and like making great content, but at the heart of what he's doing is like, he so fiercely loves and wants to protect his family. Like that I think it's overlooked because people are like, oh, he's so funny, like ha ha ha.

But no, no, why he's doing all of this is like, in service of Heidi. And he doesn't let, even though he's like becoming a big star, Spencer this, Spencer that, it's all about Heidi. It's Heidi first. It's Heidi this, it's Heidi that. Like, no, of course I would never, now that I'm having a moment, you want me to go on Watch Happens Live where people disgraced me and my wife?

I don't think so. Like I love that everything he's doing is in service of his family. Like it's not this like selfish, thirsty reality star. You know? Yeah, no, nobody holds a grudge like Spencer Pratt. And you would think like, and admittedly, like they want to be on TV. They want to do all these things.

So you would think that when those opportunities come, it's like scruples out the door. We want to be everywhere. But it's like, no, he doesn't forget. He's not going to sit with someone who has spoken poorly about his wife, even if the circumstances have changed now and maybe like he would be nice to them.

It's like the North remembers, the Prats remember. It's true. It's admirable that even, you know, like his grudge supersedes any potential opportunity. Although the story's a little misleading because he wasn't offered Watchtrapins Live and turned it down. A fan just suggested like,

you should go and watch Trapins Live. Yeah, the story is misleading because they said he passed on it, but I didn't see it like as an offer. No, it was like a suggestion from a fan. He was doing like a Q and A on Twitter. Yeah, but in these Q and A's, we find out who he has beef with.

It's so true. So his running list is just Andy Cohen and Alex Cooper. I think he did have beef with someone, but he just was saying on TikTok, like, it's done. Like they they've made their good. I think it might have been like Brody. Oh, that's good that he's also- And Brody used the song. He's also a forgiving person. was that like this new era of his life, like people who are in his mind coming for him or whatever, like they're his real enemies. Up until this point, it's all just been like silliness and drama,

but now like that his life is on the line and his family. Like if you cross him now, like you are his true enemy. The list was sort of like wiped clean, especially by anybody who used the song. Got it. Okay, cool. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

If it's our fifth and final story, that's brought to you by the flip off on HGTV Perchance. Perchance it is. Super excited to talk about the premiere of HGTV's buzzy new series, The Flip Off. Trust us, you don't want to miss it. Christina Hack and Tarika Musa were married, as you guys of course know,

and they're the queen and queen of flipping houses, flipping shows, and then they got divorced. That was 10 years ago. Oh my God, like I've literally done nothing with my life except sit and think about these two. After 10 years of history and drama and new marriages, these exes are ready to face off to prove who's the best flipper around in the flip off on HGTV. So it's Tarik and his new wife, Heather Rae Almosa, whom we all know, against Christina, and the goal is to flip a house with the biggest payoff. So it's HGTV at its best, but it's not just about the flips. The series serves up stunning transformations, competitive banter, and some deeply raw and at times uncomfortable personal moments.

It's not all glamour and glitz. It's gritty, it's real, and it's totally captivating. We're also going to see Christina and her soon-to-be ex-husband, Josh Hall, in a super intense exchange on their way to a flip. It's really awkward, and then Christina then spills the tea to Tarek about what's going on in her marriage and it's like super dramatic. I've seen the first episode, the flip off itself like the competition is just like fabulous pargy HGTV vibes, but all these reality stars and like their shared history is genuinely awkward. So Christina and Heather's design chops and eye for style are really going to elevate the series with high design that you don't see anywhere. Their mastery as real estate experts, flippers and entrepreneurs is on full display and there are great appearances. So celebrities like Amanda Smith from Selling

Sunset, Heather Dubrow from Orange County Housewives, and the most surprising, Christina's ex-husband, her second husband, Aunt Anstead, are all going to be joining the competitions to determine the best weekly win. So mark your calendars and get ready for the flipoff. It's Mutt's Watch TV, and the reunion of Tariq and Christina is just the cherry on top. Tune into the premiere Wednesday, January 29th at 8-7 Central to see who wins the first of its kind competition. You don't want to miss it. Today's episode is also brought to you by Caraway. So Caraway is non-toxic cookware. It's made modern. So buying cookware is not something I really ever thought would interest me at all. And then I got my first product from Caraway and

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for the toaster, so visit carawayhome.com slash the toast or use CoToast at checkout. Caraway, it's an on toxic cookware made modern. Thank you, Turd-A-Way. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, Miley Cyrus is reflecting on her past mistakes and detours. She said, I would not go back and change anything. So Miley Cyrus shared an Instagram video on Monday with Pamela Anderson. They're talking about the movie, The Last Showgirl, which also I think you should watch because-

Yeah, but I think it got, like it didn't get nominated for a bunch of stuff. So like it would be a waste of my time in terms of this specific project. Oh damn. Cause it was nominated for the Globes and Miley was nominated, but she spoke- Her song.

Her song, yes, yes, yes. Cause she has a song on the soundtrack called Beautiful That Way and Pamela Anderson stars in the film. So they sat down together and they were talking. And Miley was snubbed for an Oscar. And Miley was snubbed just like Lady Gaga. Yes.

So Miley recalled wanting to be the Baywatch actress when she grew up. She said, ever since I was little, it was only Pam. When people recalled wanting to be the Baywatch actress when she grew up. She said, ever since I was little, it was only Pam. When people would ask me what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would say you and the whole thing, the tattoos, the hair, all of it, that's all I wanted to do. She added that she loved watching Pamela Anderson evolve and felt inspired.

She said, I've had so many different pivots and evolutions and one might say detours within my path, but it always ends up coming back around to make the next stage of who we are. Something that's more potent, something that's more real. Pamela agreed saying, sometimes you need to go do a little research and come back to your path.

She then recalled once telling a director she wanted to let everything go from her past. I don't wanna think about it anymore, but then the director goes, no, bring it with you. That's nice. Honestly, this era of Miley is by far my favorite one because I feel like she's really not trying so hard. I think that in the past, she's really struggled

to show us who she is as an artist and as a person. So she sort of put on these personas that felt a little inauthentic. She tried. But she was like, this is me. This is me. And we're like, OK, OK. And now I feel like she's not doing that.

She's just doing whatever she wants. And it's reading so authentically. And it feels like she's not doing that. She's just like doing whatever she wants and it is greeting so authentically. Like, and it feels like she's really sort of, I know this sounds crazy, but like since Hannah Montana and then like the breakdown and I feel like she has now officially like found herself. Yes, I would agree with that. And it comes through and everything that she does. And she's such a talent.

Like she's just so talented in every pore of her body. So whatever she does like is beautiful, but watching her seem so like happy and content and at peace with herself, like and just doing the things that she wants, like she likes this movie and she likes family, I understand and she wanted to be on the song and that got her a Golden Globe nomination,

not an Oscar cause they're fuckers. But you know, it's all coming with just her being her real beautiful self. I think also like the phase of life that she's in is like being reflected in her music. So she's just like releasing like happy music and you know, self-reflective music and music that like for someone at my current stage,

like that's exactly what I wanna be listening to. Like not everything needs to be so sad all the time. I feel like she's having fun. She's looking back and looking forward, you know? Yeah. I just, I love the, and I feel like I've been hard on Miley, you know? So I wanted to say to my Smyzers,

like I think that this is a really good time. Like we're not even talking about it. That's how like natural it is. It's just like, she's sort of effortlessly settled into this place in her life. Like I know she's in a happy relationship. I don't even know his name. Like perfect, perfect.

It's just really good to see Miley looking and feeling so good. To see her shining. Totally. So those are the best- And having said that, ooh, yeah. No, like everything of who I am is so Miley, Hannah coded.

Like I'm just, it's so crazy when you think about it. So many of our inside jokes. What's your personal favorite era of Miley? Oh, I have so many, but really like, Hannah Montana, like the movie. Of course. That was the most clocked in I've ever, like seriously, like she was my whole world.

So I have to say that. Yeah. I have to, the climb like changed my life, changed me, my DNA, my on a cellular level, it did. Yeah. I think for me, like that period, when she was like a little bit more provocative, but like in hindsight, it was like so normal. Before she went like a little nutty,

but like she had the really long like chestnut brown waves and the Can't Be Tamed album, which is such a work of art. And she just like would wear fringe shorts and she was like a real style icon. And I think she was just like having fun before things got like dark. That's definitely a top era for me. Yeah, like Miley and Mandy.

Miley and Mandy, correct. Yeah. So let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segments. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I do Dear Toasters where we read three submissions on air from swirlies who are in need of advice whether it comes to relationship stuff, work stuff, as of last week, some criminal

behavior. Submissions are totally anonymous. So if you ever find yourself wanting to write in to Jackson Claude, you can do so one of two ways. Head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com or write us an email, deartoasters at gmail.com. Both totally anonymous. Don't worry if your submission has not been read on air yet, it might be too long or unfortunately unfortunately, uninteresting. So try and just keep it concise, you know? Hello, Jackson Turp. I'm in need of immediate help. I'm currently on vacation with my boyfriend and his family, and we were having such a fabulous trip until last night my boyfriend stayed in for the night with his brother and his parents while I went out to get a drink with his sister. As we got out of our Uber and walked up to the house, we are currently

all staying at, I literally saw his parents having sex through the window. But it gets worse. His dad was wearing a furry mask. No, I didn't mistake it. And it wasn't, like, I didn't see things too fast. This man was literally wearing a furry cat mask while having sex. My fiancee's sister got out of the car on the other side, so if she saw them, she didn't mention it, but I don't think she did.

We just walked in in silence. Do I ask her if she saw anything? Do I tell my boyfriend, do I go home? Help? I'm actually traumatized. P.S. We've been dating for four years and I thought his family was so normal. From a toaster who wishes she was blind. It's always the quiet ones. Here's the thing. They're not hurting anyone. You know, and it's nice to see like people, obviously like this is crazy, but furries, that's like what the community called this

themselves. I've heard of it, they're not hurting anyone. And like there's, you know, it's hard to, you know, stay married for so long and keep things interesting, honestly, so if anything, I think you could change your perspective here, like a little bit of a shift from like, oh my God, they're freaks, like being a little, little judgmental,

to just like, honestly, that's sweet. Like at least, like you could have seen so many things, a prostitute, like you could have seen an infidelity. Like you saw two people who've been together for a really long time, who have a beautiful family. Who are taking vacations, keeping it fresh. And you know what, like maybe it's not for you, maybe it's not for me, but like it is for them.

And I think that you can't undo what you saw, right? But you can change how you receive it. You can shine a different light on it. Yeah, there's nothing to be done with this information. Do not tell your fiance he either knows and eek, or you're gonna ruin his childhood. It's none of his business, by the way. Those are his parents.

This is just for you to know, and now you know a little more about your future in-laws than you would have bargained for, but everyone's getting close. This is what happens when you share a house, people see things. That's the thing, like going on vacation's obviously amazing, but sometimes you'll see something you can't forget.

So he packed his mask? I guess, I mean, it's not big. So I'm sure like growing up, your husband has seen the furry side of him, like at some point. Yeah, yeah, just don't bring it up. Do not bring it up, but now you know. And you know what's so funny is like as a family,

we travel a lot together. These trips bring people closer together and now you're closer. Have you ever seen anything like walked in on someone? One, I don't know if I would even say it right now, but two, like no, nothing comes to mind. What about you? Just one thing comes to mind. What about you? Just one thing comes to mind.

Do I wanna know? Do you know it? Do you know it? I'm not gonna say it, but like I, I believe you were there, but like you didn't see it. Do you remember? I think something's coming to me. I'm gonna text you, hold on.

Something that I've previously blocked out is coming forward. And I think it has to do, let me just text you forward. And I think it has to do, let me just text you with the words I think it has to, don't text me yet. Tell me if I'm right, okay? And by the way, guys, don't even guess. Like they'll take the story to my grave.

I didn't, nobody knows. Like I just, yes, yes. Unless our texts. Yes, you know. Unless our texts are in discovery. Texts get leaked. Oh, by the way, if we get subpoenaed, we're screwed. Also, how did Justin Baldoni keep that voice note?

Don't they vanish unless the other person keeps it? And even if the other person keeps it, how do you have your own voice note? Unless it was a voice memo, so he workshopped it, saved it, and sent her a little podcast? Yeah, I thought it was weird. And I'm like, I'm not coming for Justin Baldoni anymore because people don't wanna hear what I have to say and I get so much hate for him.

And also like his case is like, to be fair, his case is getting stronger and stronger. I mean, it's easy to get stronger when no one's responding to you or rebutting anything you're saying, but sure. I thought it was weird that he still had the voice memo. Like people who keep voice memos are just like very nefarious to me.

But his own one. Yeah, of course. Yeah, people who keep- They disappear. Yeah, but even if I send people who keep- They disappear. Yeah, but even if I send you a voice note and you keep it, first of all, never do that. But if you did, I couldn't listen to my own voice note anymore.

Only you can listen to my voice note. Correct. So how does he have his own voice notes? Unless he sent them as voice memos in the voice memo app, in which case he was like taking even more, like making voice memos and sending her, which is a podcast. Yeah, and people who send voice memos

generally like have something to hide, whatever. I don't want to get into it. Voice notes. Voice notes, excuse me, yes. It's something you don't want to put in writing. But he's sending voice memos, it seems. Otherwise, how could he have his own? And how do you have a voicemail too that you leave someone?

Like I get a voicemail and I delete it. Like I'm just sure. Okay. I agree with you. Next up. This one's kind of personal to me. Hey swirlies. Love ya.

My long distance boyfriend was out Thursday night while I was having a wine night with my friends and when I checked his location later that night he was not home. Instead he was at his local police department. I thought to myself, what the fuck? I just decided to go to bed and check again in the morning. When I woke up and saw no update on his location from the night before, I Googled his name and the local police department

and an immediate mugshot pops up, he got a DUI. I seriously do not think I can handle this ick. I need your advice on what to do. He has since been bailed out and given me the rundown of his nearly 20 hour hangout in jail, including the bologna sandwich they gave him for lunch, but I actually can't with him anymore. Oh, he told you about it.

Do you think a DUI is a deal breaker? I just think usually a DUI like points to a larger issue. So those larger issues might be a deal breaker. I thought for a second he didn't tell you about it. And I was like, well, this is why we can't do long distance. You can get into a legit DUI and I wouldn't know about it. Yeah, yeah. I think it's like evaluate the relationship separately.

Like I think some, I know not for you. And I do think DUIs are seriously like terrible, of course. The worst things you could do, yeah. But people also like make mistakes. So I think there's way towards forgiveness, but it just doesn't seem like your relationship is that serious and you're looking for any reason to get rid of him and this is a very, very good one.

Yeah, to me, like this would cross the line of my moral compass. And if it doesn't cross yours, like that's not, I'm not like, that's fine too. If Ben got a DUI. Okay, but the thing is like, these are two people in a long distance. Right. Like this is my that's my husband. Right. Like this father of my child. I completely agree with that. It seems like

a relationship is unrooted. You guys aren't even together. Like he could go get a wife. And you're not even a person. We were dating. If me and Ben when we were dating and it was a long distance relationship, which I just feel like, you know, adds already like trouble to a situation, complications. He got a DUI. Like I would seriously be like, are you fucking kidding? Get a life. I'm sorry. Like grown men getting DUIs, it's just, it's like if you get arrested for like getting

into a fight at a football game, like you're not a serious person. Yeah. I would say it looks like you want to break up with him anyway. This is as good a reason as any. Yeah. Yeah. want to break up with him anyway, this is as good a reason as any. Yeah, yeah. And if you're feeling like it doesn't align with your set of values, that's totally valid because I feel the same. All right, ready for our third and final? Hey, Jackson Turd. First, I have to share that Yale's podcast is truly the best part

of my day. I love you both so much. I'm getting married in a few months and everything has been so great. However, my future mother-in-law has made some of the planning and prep a bit of a headache. She very much loves her son, maybe a little too much, so some of her actions slash comments I've just learned to ignore. But this most recent one set me over the edge. After she picked out her mother of the groom dress, she made a comment that she doesn't want my fiance to see it until the wedding day because she wants to do basically a first look. I just ignored the comment, but I actually can't stop thinking about it. Am I crazy to think that that's a really wacky thing to do?

We have a great relationship, but the wedding for sure has caused some tension. Should I just show my fiance a picture of her in the dress? Should I tell him that the comment made me uncomfortable? Any advice is greatly appreciated. I don't think there's anything so, so wrong with this. It's just a little sad, because I feel like she has these expectations.

I'm sorry, Jackie. A first look is for a bride. No, of course. But I don't even think, if she was like, look at my dress, like I don't even think he would be like, oh, I hadn't seen it before. Like he would have been like, hey, mom, like. Cool dress.

So it just makes me like a little like sad that she has this all built up so much in her head. And she's- No, I'm not sad. And she's not gonna get the reaction that she's looking for. I don't think. Well, then maybe you should stop this first look, one, to protect her, and two, because it's wrong.

There's one first look. Literally nobody cares what you look like, lady. It's not about you. That's why it's making me sad, because she doesn't know that yet. So yeah, you should say, I'll come with you to the next fitting and then bring your husband. I don't know what you should do. I could let it go is all I'm saying.

You got to pick your battles. And if you're saying this is it seems like she was willing to let it go. And then she couldn't stop thinking about it. So it's obviously you're not letting it go hard enough. You're not more focused enough. Well, then maybe it's not worth letting go. Maybe it's not worth letting go. It just seems like it's been a treacherous journey.

You've got to pick your battles. I personally would not pick this one. It seems innocuous, all I'll say. Protect your peace. No, I don't know. Sometimes these bitches need to be put in their place and a wedding is the perfect place. It's a perfect time to do it, honestly.

Cause you can get away with like saying and doing things to your mother-in-law during the wedding planning season. Like you couldn't, like once the dust settles, like you have to go back to being a normal human being. But people aren't themselves when they're planning a wedding. So take, you know what, just fuck shit up, say it, say how you feel. I guess, or just let it go. To have this diverge in a wooded forest.

Or don't. I think both of our advices are good. Why? What if you hurt her feelings and then she goes to your husband and then your husband's on you? Why'd you hurt my mom's feelings? Well, if your husband comes to me and is like, you hurt my mom's feelings,

it's like, bitch, I had to do what I had to do. Get on board. I think it will cause more problems than it's worth. Well, to be honest, I actually think how you handle any sort of in-law spat during the wedding really sets the tone for the rest of your marriage. And if you're looking for a husband who defends you, and I think that's what a lot of women look for

when they butt with their mother-in-laws, you gotta start somewhere. Okay. I think this is a good trial run for you. I'm just, I'm a pacifist, you know? But so am I, I would never say anything, but I'm a big talker when it comes to deer testers. I'm like, yeah, fuck shit up.

It's true. You really don't put yourself in their shoes. No, never. And because if it's actually like me and my personality in the shoes, like I say no, I say nothing about anything. And you have to seriously have murdered Romeo for me to actually say something.

Yeah, it's true. So she talks a big talk. I do, I just took my mind when taking my advice. But you have to live with your choices. You have to live with them. So how do you wanna live? You'll be fine. Let it go. That's our show, you guys.

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