The Toast - Growth and Roots with Olivia Culpo: Friday, December 16th, 2022
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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast, the final episode of the year.
Hey, Jax. How you doing?
I'm doing great because we're together and the Brethren are here and it's all hands on deck
for the last show of the year.
I think it was Janet Jackson who once said,
I know we'll be together again Cause everywhere I go
Every smile I see
I know you are there
Marshall Anthony
That's how me and Brian sing it
Cause Brian's dog's name is Marshall
And I don't know why we call him Marshall Anthony
That's so cute
It's like literally
Actually Brian does what you do
Like stridey
He puts Marshall Anthony in everything
I love that for him
Yeah I bet now he'll do Dean Kelly Anthony.
Even though Anthony's not his middle or last name.
It's just, I don't know.
I actually don't know why Brian is obsessed with the name Anthony.
He puts Anthony in everything.
That's like Joey Camasta puts Marie.
Yeah, yeah.
Is it Marie or Trish?
No, he, like, I think it's two separate things.
But like, he gives everyone the middle name Marie.
That's funny.
So yeah, you heard it right. Final episode of of the year I had to come down for it let's take a look at the year at a glance
we shall and I just want to say because it's the final episode of the year I'm wearing this sweater
that I've actually had for a while and I completely forgot about or else I would have worn it on the
day that she passed but it's this fabulous libert sweater. So if you don't like it, blame Libertine, not me, with images of the queen.
And I thought that you were coming in here because you have watched Harry and Meghan.
I have not because I had the longest day.
And I'm like, not checking, making a statement.
No, I didn't think we were talking about Harry and Meghan today because you didn't watch.
So then I thought we would talk about it together.
But you're like, you know what?
I don't know when I'm going to watch.
Why don't you just like recap your thoughts on the show?
If I knew I was talking about Harry and Meghan today I would not have
worn the sweater because like imagine just watching like a clip of whatever my thoughts
are on Harry and Meghan it's like where does she stand yeah no and it's like I wonder if this girl's
on team royal or team Harry and Meghan is this girl biased so I didn't have time to watch it
obviously I was on the plane yesterday um and I've been seeing so much coming out of it and like I
actually really enjoyed parts one two and three Claudia keep the magic intact I know I'm like I'm seeing so much and it's like
I feel like it's really gonna upset me and I think I'm just gonna stay where I'm at it was so bad as
far as reasons why they left we have some reasons I don't feel like we have the reason a lot of it
didn't make sense to me there was like so much propaganda and just like confusing stuff and like just like big buzzwords you know like misinformation is a is a global humanitarian
crisis that's literally what harry said yeah it's like what are you talking about totally so i'll
talk about my thoughts but anyways the sweatshirt isn't the sweater isn't a side and actually snitch
picked it out she came to my closet this morning because i was asking her what to wear and she saw
the sweater she's like why don't you wear that and i was like why don't
i wear that because 2020 you for 2022 for me was the year of the queen 2022 for me was the year of
the toast i feel like this was such like not to make not to make similar everything about us but
i feel like you know this was a really important year for us. I feel like it was a very transitional year. Yes. The flamingos joined us.
Jackie and I were actually invited on this Power Women's Summit to talk about like the
business of podcasting.
And it's on YouTube if you want to watch it.
It's like a lot of like business podcasting stuff.
And we talked a lot about our rebrand and more importantly, like your move.
And I thought that this was going to be the year that like the toast like didn't end.
But it was the slow march to the end.
Yeah.
Like the official beginning of the end.
Yeah.
But I supported you in your decision, of course, to move.
And this move has just been so revitalizing for our brand, for the podcast.
It's like Lars' party, new beginnings.
New beginnings.
And I just feel like this was a really good year for the toast.
I feel like we got so many new toasters. We blew up on TikTok. I mean, what more can you ask for
than blowing up on TikTok? I lost weight. I mean, oh my God. Like what more could you ask for?
I had a baby. Oh, right. That's great. I moved. Yeah. You would have thought that this year would
have been like, we're working on some other stuff. So the toast like kind of would have taken a back seat, but no,
no,
no.
So I made the journey down.
I'm so happy to be here.
I slept amazing last night.
Um,
woke up literally.
You cannot pull me out of bed in New York.
Like I will take an,
a full hour before getting out of bed.
I hopped out of bed.
I'm like,
Harry's awake.
And my room is right next to his.
Yeah.
But that's the thing about motherhood. Like even though I used to hate waking up like couldn't catch me doing it I
would always be tired like no matter what time I woke up always miserable like now when I wake up
I'm tired I like pee and brush my teeth like with my eyes closed and then once I get into his room
like I'm up and it's a pleasant experience he's so gorgeous. Like I just love living with him.
I said, I'm like, Jackie, I think it would be kind of cool of you.
And it's actually kind of not cool that you haven't.
I think like, obviously I talk about a lot.
Like having kids is definitely something I want to do.
In theory.
But like the act of doing it is just so not on like my list of things that I want to do.
Like I'm just, I would like the child to be here.
And there's literally a child downstairs.
And I just think the fact that you haven't even offered to like, I don't know, maybe
we could do joint custody.
Like I think it's kind of rude.
He could be your ward.
Because like you're going to have more kids.
I feel like you don't like hate the idea of being pregnant.
Like you should do that.
No, but it's like not fair.
Of course, like I've just accepted it but it's not fair like you get to be on your snatchler journey right
and you're my surrogate no I'm nice I'm a good sister I'm not that good I know actually I was
reading this book and this guy um I won't say the book but like they're in love and she has a lot of
fertility issues and like she really wants to have kids and so she literally can't and so she like leaves him
and it's so painful and he comes back with this whole plan and he said my sister actually she
offered to be a surrogate and I was like oh my god couldn't be me that would literally never be you
I mean actually let's be real let's be real never you don't even want to do it for yourself no for
sure but let's say like years from now I've done it for myself and like somebody in the family like needs a surrogate like I would like I would
do it I would do anything for my family years from now my stuff is done yeah yes I agree with that
yeah like hopefully nobody has yeah no I I would be open to it yeah at that time so oh my god we
haven't even spoken about how it's our final episode of the year. We're
looking at the Toast at a Glance and we're ending the year with such a sickening guest, someone who
we've spoke so highly of on this show. Over the years. Over the years. We've never wavered.
Never wavered. We've been talking about her a lot with her new reality show. Olivia Culpo joined us.
She will be joining these, if you're listening as a podcast, just keep listening. It'll be at
the end of the episode. If you're watching on YouTube, Olivia joined us via satellite as well.
So there's another video on our channel right after this one with the Olivia interview.
And she looks so stunning.
It's just Jackson, Claude, and Olivia.
Like nothing new there.
No, we spoke about snitch the whole time.
So we had all four sisters represented.
Yeah.
We'd love a sister who works with and respects other sisters.
It was a really good interview.
So be sure to check that out.
And we're just going out on a high.
And I know everyone's sad.
The toast is over.
What am I going to do?
And that's why Patreon exists.
I can't stress that point enough.
Yeah, I actually am filming a vlog today with the snatchler because she's doing her snatchler
thing and going to steal all of my clothes.
Like we're going to go through my closet and give her stuff that's just like too young
for me and that I probably won't ever wear again, like in this new phase of my life.
And you guys can come along and watch me get pillaged by
the snatch village and then one of my favorite things to do is like margo's like oh I got some
new clothes can I try them on for you oh yeah and then there will be a try on watching like a young
person with an near perfect body just try on clothing is such a delight you would think like
it would make me like what's the word I'm looking for?
You think watching Margot try on clothes would like make me depressed and like hate myself,
but it's actually like the funnest thing.
I agree.
It's just like she's really like a fit model.
Yeah.
No, it's also fun because like you love the snatch.
I'm exciting when people you love like try on clothes that you love.
Yeah, but it's more so like from an aesthetic POV.
Like she's so perfect.
Snatch her. She's just in the other room.
We should go get her.
Snatchler, Snatchler.
Also, speaking of perfect, yesterday we announced our collab with Spritz Society,
our toast holiday pack, which is a variety pack,
two grapefruit cans, two blood orange cans, two pineapple cans,
two lemon cans in a toasty package with a toasty poem.
It's available at SpritzSociety.com.
I know a bunch of you got
them yesterday. I'm so glad to hear that, but just wanted to remind you, if you go to SpritzSociety.com,
the toast holiday packs are available. They make a great gift for someone and it's a buy more,
save more event. So if you get two packs, you get free shipping and 10% off. If you get three or
more packs, you still get that free shipping, but you guys are getting 25% off. So for the toaster
in your life, that's a great gift. You don't even have to wrap it because it's already wrapped.
With a little bow and everything.
And it has all the content that you need to get through the holidays.
A playlist that you can scan on the bottom.
A lethal poem by the Streis brethren.
Oh, and by the way, we didn't even acknowledge.
We're like looking at our monitor in front of us.
There's like 400 people in this tiny little frame.
Because Bryce, Streis, Jax, and McClure, Laturd are here.
people in this tiny little frame because Bryce, Stryus, Jax, and McClurd, LaTurd are here.
And there's really no better way to send off into the holiday season and wrap up.
And what has otherwise been an amazing year?
Yeah, it's been strong.
It's been good.
I'm ready for 23, ready to take it on.
Yeah.
But I want to sit in 22 and appreciate the good times.
We had asked Olivia Culpo this, and I think we should ask ourselves the same question.
What are we toasting to in the new year?
What are some things we want to bring into the new year?
Olivia had a great answer.
What was hers again?
Well, I don't want to spoil it.
Oh, okay, okay.
What was it?
Remember I was like, couldn't be me?
Oh, right, right, right, right. That's what we say every year.
2023.
I'm pretty happy where I'm at, honestly.
I know, me too.
I know, like, that's the thing about resolutions.
It's like, if you work on yourself all year long,
which I try to, what's a resolution?
Like, more of the same?
I guess the resolution should be, like,
to continue to work on myself. Yeah, to continue the good work that you're doing yeah go viral on tiktok more keep
keep on keeping on keep on keeping on 100 yeah I agree it may be like visiting your sister even
more even though you visit her so much it's just so fun when you're here I feel like I visit you
so much like I think what in the time that i've moved i visited you visited you equal amounts that you have
visited me but it's like different because when i visit you i live with you you know i know but
it's easier for one it's easier like you don't have to like get a hotel you're in a house you're
coming to your hotel harry it's it's insane so the fact that i visited you as much it's true you
should be visiting me more.
And I'm not like trying to put pressure.
I just love having you.
I love being here.
Come more.
I feel like I come as much as I can.
Especially given like this, that the latter half of the year was the busiest six months
of my life.
Like between toast and tour and just work in general, I feel like I made as much time
as possible.
And now like in the new year, I've pretty much got nothing going on except toast.
And I can do that even better from here.
I'll definitely be here quite a lot.
Now that there's three nieces and nephews.
And it's the winter,
so it's the best time to be here and not there.
That's true.
So I feel like that's the resolution.
Spend as much time together as we can.
Works for me.
Great.
And we've got a great show.
I'm doing stories again.
I'm doing ads again we're gonna
talk uh we'll recap a little bit of harry and megan because honestly like i said i don't know
if i have the stomach for it i don't you already watched it i don't think that you should i think
you should say where you are with like how much you like them this is like blissful ignorance
yeah there's like positives and negatives to my overall thoughts about them like and the
positives are still that like their relationship is rock solid and these two people and I feel like a lot of people are like well if you didn't want
to be a princess you shouldn't have married a prince and it's like you love they were never
not getting like they are meant to be together so they had to figure out a way to be together
I'll talk about all of it in uh and we have a story about story okay great we've got some good
stories I'm gonna excuse me I'm getting sick my body's shutting down because it's like please And we have a story about it Okay great We've got some good stories Oh my god
Excuse me
I'm getting sick
My body's shutting down
Because it's like
Please don't end the toast
You want to go eat more?
My body's like
Oh my god
I'm going to wake up tomorrow
And we're not going to toast
Because it's Saturday
Shut up
My body is protesting
Your body's just a workaholic
Speaking of protests
I don't know how that's a segue
But I did make it to season five last night of Yellowstone.
So I'm officially like caught up.
Oh, cool.
So you can watch this weekend.
And in the new year, we'll have a great big recap.
Then you should watch 1883.
I plan on it.
I need to finish 1883 so then I can watch 1923.
And then you said, what did you tell me last night?
That this is crazy.
Because I remember she said she really loved
Jimmy even though to me he's like so irrelevant whatever and I was like oh so season five Jimmy
went to the sixes she was like yeah and I was like it's gonna be a show and she was like huh
so the sixes is their own show and I like that yeah so that's what they were doing there and I
just realized that that horse wrangler guy Travis is Taylor Sheridan Sheridan cute because I'm like
this guy looks so like familiar and I just googled him and it was like his Travis is Taylor Sheridan Sheridan cute because I'm like this guy looks
so like familiar and I just googled him and it was like his name is Taylor Sheridan I'm like oh my
god love that from the commercials like he's always in you don't watch with commercials but
he's always in the commercials like talking about Yellowstone oh wow I'm like he does commercials
how did he get this job um so it's been a really fun journey and And so is this year. And I think there's no time like the present, honestly, to just DRI.
To get right into it.
To DRI.
Dive right in.
To the fast five stories that you need to know before you finish out your year.
Tier.
Tier.
But McLerdial, Leterdial.
Yes.
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before the shit did the toast but I actually I needed to shame you publicly I am shocked
beyond belief at the state of your studio I you're such a clean person. There's a lot that goes on in here.
No, I know.
I have a studio as well.
In a small space.
I mean, have you heard of a trash bin?
It's hard.
It's in the other room.
I'm just...
Everything serves a purpose.
No, I'm sure of that.
But I was just genuinely shocked walking in this room.
And that tissue with lipstick is yours, yeah?
Yes.
Okay, that's the only thing that looks like outright garbage. that big pile of ads no pile of what is that those are holiday
lights for my like these are my work supplies what holiday lights do you need when i did my
holiday toast shoot everything serves a purpose if you want to shame you want to work shame me
sorry that my studio isn't as big as yours. I'm just, I was shocked.
I'm sorry.
I was shocked.
I was in tears almost.
I'm a hardworking queen.
What can I say?
So our first story of the day is the video that everyone's talking about is Kourtney Kardashian and Khloe Kardashian sat down for this Vanity Fair interview and it was full of interesting
information.
I actually took notes on a few things that shocked me, but it also came out around this
time that Dumois released this blind about two sisters
from an iconic family who are not speaking.
So this video just like spiraled people into thinking about what's going on.
But the story that everyone's talking about the moment from this Vanity Fair interview
is that Khloe Kardashian will not let her daughter True sleep at her sister Kourtney's
house.
So Kourtney Kardashian's house is off limits when it comes to sleepovers for Khloe Kardashian's
daughter True.
The Good American founder revealed during Thursday's episode of Vanity Fair's popular
lie detector test web series that she will never let her four-year-old daughter spend
the night at the Kardashian-Barker household.
The Poosh founder asked, are you ever going to let True sleep over at my house?
And Khloe responded, probably not.
Kourtney replied by asking if it was because they have too much fun over there.
And Khloe said, no, I don't think we have enough time on this show for what the reason is.
But then there was another interview
where she said something like about
True being too young for sleepovers, which I get.
Sleepovers at your sister's house?
I don't know, she has like older kids,
like she might not be able to keep up with them.
Well, no, I think-
And it's like a rite of passage to have your first sleepover.
I don't think True is there yet,
but there's something beyond that
because she said she would never allow so i had two thoughts the first was like maybe chloe
from her own childhood has like sleepover trauma like some people really didn't like sleepovers
they had bad experiences like maybe she doesn't want to pass that on to true or and we've spoken
about this a lot and i feel like the kardashians have spoken about it too a lot of the girls having
like just fundamental issues with the way Courtney
parents and like maybe they just don't I don't know how much could happen in one night I know
but and they have staff around yeah I thought that was interesting yeah but I also I had written
down I think it's two things I think like if true could go on any sleepover in the world like Chloe
wouldn't send her to Courtney's for whatever reason maybe she doesn't like the snacks that
she has as a bunch of stuff and two I think Courtney Chloe is like anti-sleepover in the world, like Chloe wouldn't send her to Courtney's for whatever reason. Maybe she doesn't like the snacks that she has, as a bunch of stuff.
And two, I think Chloe is like anti sleepover in general.
Yeah, I mean like if and when I have children,
like they will sleep at your house like all the time,
so I can just sleep in.
Like to me, like your house, Olivia's house,
Margaret's house, that's not a sleepover.
A sleepover is with, you know, strangers.
Yeah, I agree.
And when it comes to strangers, like they can all sleep here. Oh, by the way, I way I agree they can all sleep here I'll get some bunk beds I used to blow up mattresses
sleepovers like yeah and I couldn't imagine like I know there were friends of mine who like weren't
allowed and I was like oh my god that sucks but now I'm like no like crazy I actually saw um this
woman on TikTok who investigates she's a police detective, like children's crimes. And she was
like, here are things I will never do as a mom, as a police detective, who's been investigating
children's crimes. And she was like, I will never let my kids have a sleepover. I thought it was
really interesting. Okay. And maybe the, and maybe Chloe saw that TikTok. Maybe. And she's just
taking it really seriously. Some other takeaways I had from this video. Um, the first was that I
had literally no idea Chloe's middle name was Alexandra.
Did you know that?
No.
The other thing that I found interesting is that Courtney watches Yellowstone.
Yes.
And that Chloe did not like her dress.
Courtney's wedding dress,
which I,
I appreciated her honesty,
but it's also then like,
I kind of respect her decision more. Cause like for me,
like I will literally not pick a dress for the opening of an
envelope without sending a picture to you guys and being like are you sure are you sure sure
and Courtney was like so into it that like even if her sister said they didn't like it like she
still moved forward with it so at least she felt pretty yeah apparently they're like critical of
her style right now I feel like her style is pretty like mellow it's like she got really
a travesty but now she's like found a blend of like yeah you know being like rocker even when it was
really travesty it wasn't that bad it's just like it's not my personal style it's just like more
edgy yeah like i don't know what the problem is with that no me neither i thought the video was
really cute i like seeing the sisters do sister things i don't know why they did it like what are
they promoting chloe was definitely out here promoting nerd tech otd the over-the-counter
i know the prescription migrant medication commercials that she's on because the YouTube video stopped four times
with the Nurtek OTD commercial before, during, and after.
I should ask my doctor about it.
You should.
And get the tea on Nurtek OTD.
I don't know why they did it either.
And I was curious if anyone felt like this,
just kind of like weird vibe.
Like Chloe's usually very, I don't know,
she felt like she was feeling defensive
and a little standoffish.
No, it was just that Chloe's usually very warm,
and I felt like it was a little stilted.
Yeah, what's the opposite of warm?
Cold?
Yes, that's the opposite.
That's the vibe.
I feel like she wasn't being that classic Chloe,
like how she would with Chris or Kim.
Yeah, because I think that's just her
and Kourtney's relationship right now.
But I think that they are fine.
And honestly, if they really had a problem, they would not be doing this video.
And I thought it was fun that they were able to laugh at themselves.
I thought that they actually asked some like real questions, not just like stupid stuff.
Yeah.
But then speaking of what you just said, this is the blind item that went viral.
And I feel like it's if we learned anything last week from like the Ariel Charnas drama
is like just take anonymous gossip on the surface. Like's not that deep if at all if at all but
the du moi blind was two sisters of this iconic family are not even in contact with each other
anymore you may see them in pictures but it's purely for show a reconciliation is highly unlikely
the older one has basically confirmed the falling out as well it makes you think that it's Courtney
and Kim Kim yeah yeah just because they've always they I just feel like they are very different basically confirmed the falling out as well. It makes you think that it's Kourtney and-
And Kim.
Kim, yeah.
Yeah.
Just because they've always,
I just feel like they are very different.
They're so different.
And I haven't seen them together in a while,
but we also haven't seen them all together.
I guess since Thanksgiving, they were all together.
No, and they did just have this Kardashian brand's
like holiday dinner, did you see?
Like the Good American teams, the skin-
I saw a little bit.
Yeah, but I didn't see who like of all was there.
Yeah.
But then other people were saying it could be Kathy Hilton and Kyle.
But something about that didn't feel like it.
I wouldn't call it iconic family.
Iconic with two Ks.
Oh, duh.
I was like, why did the person spell it like that?
I'm not okay.
They need to go to the spelling bee.
Literally.
Akilah.
Somebody get Akilah.
No, it's definitely
not it okay by the way i didn't even think about the k thing it's obviously about the kardashians
but that still doesn't mean that it's true right um but i could see it being kim and court but i
do feel like courtney i feel like it could be kim and courtney like because i feel like courtney
would get really um defensive of like child exploitation and be like upset with kim that
she didn't take a harder stance oh my god you're so're so right. Also, I don't know if you saw, but Alexa Demi officially
like I saw, what was that? Two months. Yeah. Took a long time. Took a long time. I don't know her.
So I, I don't like, I don't follow her. It's not on me to like hold her accountable. Cause I never
held her anywhere else. No, by the way, you're so right. I could definitely see that being like a
thing. That was just the only
thought because you know what say what you want about courtney but like she is scrupled oh beyond
like a little too screwed no and it's just like random some of the like hills she'll die on yeah
this isn't a one worth pursuing i might be you're a hundred percent right i don't know that's just
like that's my theory my working theory but i i'm not saying that that's what it is. Our next story is the Prince Harry and Meghan of it all.
One of the pieces that they spoke about that's really gone viral is Harry being pictured
in stunned silence as his brother William's text following the explosive Oprah interview.
So a stunned Prince Harry was filmed holding an apparently grim text message from an older
brother, Prince William, whom Harry portrayed as a screaming bully who forced him out of the family. The final episode of Harry and
Meghan caught the explosive aftermath of Harry's damning 2021 Oprah Winfrey interview, after which
the heir to the throne, William, told a reporter, I haven't spoken to him yet, but I will do.
The Netflix cameras were rolling when William sent that text message while Meghan Markle was
on the phone with celebrity pal Tyler Perry. While Markle finished reading out the response of Queen Elizabeth II to their Winfrey interview,
the camera cut to her husband standing over her, wordlessly holding out his phone for her to read.
What am I looking at? She asked, and seconds later gasped, wow, he just got a text from his brother,
she explains to Tyler Perry, before hugging her overwhelmed husband who laments, I wish I knew
what to do. The docuseries did not detail what was in the text.
William was the focus of many of the most,
William was the focus of many of Harry's
most explicit allegations of mistreatment
in the final three episodes.
The acrimony started with William
apparently breaking a pact not to let their teams
trade negative press stories about each other,
which Harry called heartbreaking.
Okay, let me get into it because I felt like
the whole storyline was fraught with contradictions and missing pieces. So the big question that I've always
had is like, what was so bad that they had to leave? Why did they leave? And why did they do
it the way that they did it? So the documentary pretty much says this. There was a period of time
before they left. Um, and it was a period where Megan was pregnant. They were on a tour. It was
a lot of work and the media had started being it was weird it was contradictory the media was like really
hard on her but at the same time they were saying that Megan was so beloved on the tour it was like
giving Diana they had this event at Buckingham Palace the whole family was there Megan and Harry
even slept over at the palace that night they were having breakfast together the next morning just
the two of them and the paper comes out and Meghan's on the cover.
Like she shined the brightest out of everyone.
Yikes.
And they were like, and so, you know, the family doesn't like that.
So it's like, is it the media doesn't like, the media's too hard on you,
but they put you on the cover.
You're the darling of the media.
Right.
Which one is it?
And I also felt like at any given time, you could find in on any day,
positive headlines about Meghan and Harry and negative headlines about Meghan and Harry and on the same
like day you could find positive man on the street interviews about Meghan and Harry negative you
find positive reporters talking about them and they just like kept inserting clips and headlines
to like fit whatever they were saying at the time and it just felt like there was always so much
positive and so much negative that it's like it was hard to tell what was what.
Anyway, so the media was like really, really hard on her.
And when she's pregnant, she became extremely depressed.
And so I think it was a combination of things based on what they said.
A lot of things they spoke very vaguely about.
But I think it was like the media scrutiny, the job itself, when they were living at their first cottage, it was
like small.
Like it was not fabulous.
Like the ceilings were like this high.
She said Oprah came for tea and she was like, if people only knew.
Yeah, that's actually funny.
Very unfabulous, I think.
And it caused, and then all the stuff like that was going on the media with her dad.
And then she said she was doing one of her walkabouts and one of the women was like it's terrible the way you're
treating your dad and then that made her realize like oh people are really believing some of this
stuff so it sent her like into a a very deep depression then she gave birth to Archie and
they didn't do the royal birth protocol the same way that it's been done in the past I don don't think that she said at no point did anyone say like, you can't do it this way.
But I guess maybe like the media felt a little burn that they didn't get those steps pictures.
I mean, those steps pictures are fucking insane.
I know, but I feel like, I mean, they did have like Princess Anne, was it?
Or maybe it was Margaret.
Like, so someone who's not in direct line on the steps.
But other than that, it's Diana, it's Kate, and it's queenie herself like it's not people right spare yeah like they can do it from the
throne room two days later right that's fine by me anyways they at the end of 2019 they're going
they went to vancouver to like take a break because like megan needed a break and already
after archie's born after archie yeah Archie must be six months at this point
because he's born in May and already like the house is being swarmed and there's people like
it's an island and there's like boats outside and it's like crazy madness so Harry says like they
want to for years they've been talking about moving outside of the UK being like half in half
out there was a plan for them to move to New Zealand that never took off there was a plan for them to move to South Africa but then it got leaked and once
things get leaked like it's never going to go through so they wanted to move to Canada which
is still in the commonwealth and they still want to work for the queen so he writes a letter to
his dad like saying we want to move to Canada like this is our plan if it doesn't work we will
relinquish our titles okay and then that letter gets leaked and it's like so that I
think that was the first I'm trying to like also follow it in the way that I remember it that was
like the first thing of like Megan and Harry are stepping down from the family they're half in half
out so then they go to the UK they have this meeting with the queen and everyone I think only
Harry was there and they offered five options one option being like
everything stays as it is like you stay in the family five being like you have nothing so like
a spectrum a spectrum and he chose number three oh so somewhere in the middle um then after that
meeting there was a report in the press that the brothers that william had bullied harry out of the
family and up until in the documentary,
they never mentioned anything about William and Kate,
their treatment in the family.
And that being a reason why Megan was like so unhappy
and why they had to leave ever, not once.
So I'm here sitting here being like,
oh, so that report is like very untrue.
Right.
And the royal family is like in a tailspin right now.
Like two members are like leaving.
There's a report that the brothers are fighting.
So they immediately issue a statement
from their joint office without consulting Harry saying,
these reports are untrue.
Like there's no bad blood between the brothers.
And that's when Harry says, wow,
they were willing to lie for William,
but they never were willing to tell the truth to protect us.
So it's like, I understand that frustration.
It's like all this time with all the stories about Thomas,
like Megan could never say anything.
They could never tell their. Right.
No, that's frustrating.
But in five seconds, they'll put out this quote unquote lie to protect William.
But that's not to protect William.
It's to protect everyone.
It's protect everyone. Like they're in free fall.
Right.
And according to what I've been watching this whole time, William was never a Roman bully
you out of the family.
You've never spoken about him.
You know what?
The reason why you guys were so unhappy, if part of that had to do with like William and Kate's treatment and you're
sitting down to do a documentary like say it because then don't say that them putting out
that statement was a lie because I'm saying they were saying where's the lie no the only thing they
said even in the first part it's like the first time they met it was like a little formal yes
that's all they said it so then after they put out that statement, like Megan and Harry were flabbergasted
that they would run so quickly to William's defense.
It's a kind of an overreaction.
And they went AWOL.
Like they-
Oh, that was it?
Like that's what sent them over the edge?
Yep, that was what sent them over the edge.
And they said, we're leaving the family.
They were in Canada.
They're packing up their things.
Can I say something?
I feel like when they were in it and like they had a baby and they were like very anxious and she was dealing with you know mental health like I feel like perhaps they not overreacted but like
maybe overreacted and now they're like trying to justify but like now when you look back in
hindsight you think like oh was it that bad but when you're in it it's like oh my god we have to
get out of this situation right because you never like I think for Harry and everything really is I
think Harry's doing doing um because he's the only one really who has the like he's the only one who
could make these decisions like I think he would never have done it without Megan like she showed
him that he could do it but it really kind of now looking back like feels like he always
had one foot out the door and I never realized like how much trauma he has from childhood everything
comes from Diana like really and I think with everything every day with Megan and everything
that happens to her he just sees it through the lens of like how it could end up like Diana and
so he when he sees like something's like going badly
and Megan's not doing well,
he's like, I'm removing my family from this.
No, and you know what?
Megan not doing well?
Like, you know, I'm sure a psychiatrist would diagnose it,
but he's trying to be the person that like his mom never had.
He wishes his mom had.
Yes.
No, and honestly, Megan's mental health
and like her depression,
and I know she had suicidal thoughts,
like that's reason enough.
Like they should have left.
Yeah.
But I don't know why on the way out and now even they feel the need to burn
everything to the ground here's the thing so they left remember and I feel like everyone was pretty
I mean obviously there's always people who are not but on the whole pretty respectful I think
the queen was still like they're doing what's best for them I'm sure that you know everyone
the family behind their door behind closed doors were pissed but like everyone was still acting right and like this is a okay happy family thing things went south at
the Oprah interview yeah that's what changed everything and they spoke about it a little bit
but I think and I think that they should I think they have regret also the Oprah interview talked
about a lot of things.
And Megan said, she was like, I thought the big takeaway from the Oprah interview would
be like my mental health.
Right.
No, it wasn't.
It was the race.
Yeah.
And then in this documentary, they didn't mention that comment again.
They didn't mention like any racist actions or feelings from the family.
Like there was nothing about the family.
Except the brooch, but that was an irrelevant family yeah the core yeah so it kind of was
telling a different story than the oprah interview and it kind of felt like they were backtracking a
little bit um i think that the oprah interview like that severed things and that's when william
sent that text yeah of course if they had just left and did what was best for themselves and their family and their mental health which at that point like i understand
of course because they were being like swarmed and it's just not easy and you have a new baby
and you're so anxious like if we're never going to sit on the throne then for what what are we
working for what for what i agree like i i get it now and the oprah interview changed everything
yeah of course and i just feel like this story is actually really emblematic.
This New York Post story I just read is very emblematic of like their vibe.
It's like throwing out like a grenade, like look at this text and then not telling us
what it is.
So it's like we have to imagine.
I just feel like they're kind of always like saying big things and not backing it up.
Even again, you watch this whole six part documentary and you are not entirely sure
what the reason was that they left.
Yes.
Also, a big reason of why they left was, um,
this suit with the daily mail.
So yeah,
the daily mail printed a letter that Megan wrote to Thomas Markle at the
advice of the queen and Prince Charles.
Like she,
she went to the queen,
like,
what should I do?
Everyone said,
write him a letter.
She wrote him a letter.
Um,
she sent it to her agent and LA made sure the agent got it to him.
And he sent,
gave it to the press.
Of course she said that the signature on delivery was not Thomas's signature so it's obviously
someone else um and then the Daily Mail published a letter a lot of it is redacted and you they
showed us one redacted line and it's just I wish for nothing but peace and for you to be well
like I'm sure it was a nice letter it was a nice letter but it's such an invasion of privacy I
would love to have seen all the other redactions. But they're saying like anything
that they redacted was things that would have made Megan look better. Anyways, you're not allowed to
publish a letter like that. So Megan sued. Good. But for a while she went to the first the lawyer
at within the palace and she was like, we're going to sue. And they were like, great. And like
nothing happened. And then eventually they went and sought outside counsel and they sued and
i think they said it too like that was the first time that they stepped outside the bounds of the
firm right like once you're starting to get your own lawyers like then what about in our own house
no totally totally so she never had support in her suit the suit like went on for years she
eventually won and she won on appeal did camilla and charles sue the publication that
ran that phone call of theirs because to me that's where mine mine goes and it sounds like her letter
makes you made her look good it's still an invasion of privacy i don't think that they did
and that's what the everyone said it's like well we didn't even sue when this happened we don't we
don't yeah we didn't we don't because this They have this relationship. No, it's the relationship, but it's also this thinking that like,
we pay for your life and this is the price that you pay us,
which is like, you open up your whole world to us.
That's why we want to see your baby when it's born.
That's the right that we have.
Yeah, I get it.
I think it's a little extreme.
Like, I do think, you know, they're not like animals at the zoo.
No, and even public people whose lives are paid for by the tax are entitled to a modicum
of privacy.
Like I don't, I don't subscribe to that notion.
And you know what?
It's not my tax dollars, but if it was, I would say, you know what?
I'll see your baby in two weeks.
Go take a nap.
Yeah, totally.
So I think it's, it's become a little extreme, but I also think for centuries, the crown
has had a relationship with the media yeah but the media has never been as
like pervasive as it is now you know every it used to be there was a newspaper and we have to
fill the pages there was one now it's like we have unlimited pages on our website we have
unlimited places for ads unlimited publications as many stories and then there's social media and
like there's just it never ends yeah no it never ends so the contract like isn't working no it's not in the modern era
no and it's it doesn't make sense why they have this like toxic relationship yeah with the British
tabloids and it's like not even like like okay you want to have like okay but you and British Vogue
sure but like the son yeah it's like so tacky yeah I do think that the family like should probably
rethink but I would love to hear from them.
Why?
What the value is.
I'm sure they've evaluated.
I also would love to know how much of taxpayer money goes towards the royal family in a year
and how much money the royal family brings in in revenue in a year.
So they bring in more than they spend, which is why they're still around.
Because if the country was like losing hundreds of millions of dollars every year,
they bring in a shit ton of money.
All the palaces, the tours, the tourism.
I don't know the numbers exactly, but I do believe they're in the green.
That's great.
So maybe since like, I mean, this is for them to decide,
but I wonder why they don't go private.
They say like, you keep your taxpayer money.
We'll pay for our life, but we're also going to keep all the money that we bring in.
But then are they still royals?
Yeah.
Then they're just like a rich family.
Yeah.
Then it like downgrades them one step further.
Right.
But I think they're still royals, but it's like, you know, don't worry.
Don't pay for us.
Right.
I mean, they have a lot of money.
They have a lot of money and they bring in a lot of money.
And then if they didn't have to like rely on the tax payers, they could write books.
Right.
Yeah.
They could bring in more money.
Right. Then they're not like civil servants no but they could still be civil
servants but then it's like they're it's like a charity no but i think like the actual term
civil servant means like like a politician is a civil servant because his salary is paid for by
taxpayers yeah well they could have a salary by like you know what i mean i just yeah i wonder
what that the argument is against that.
I just think they sound off in the comments,
please.
They think it's like a step down.
Yes.
And it would be like one step further towards the end of the a hundred percent
monarchy.
But like,
this is not sustainable.
It ain't yet.
William and Kate and Charles and Camilla,
like seem okay with it.
I mean, Charles and Camilla like went through it it yeah I mean Charles like and Camilla like went
through it no I think it's also like nobody cares it's a matter of hiding it better I think the job
is really hard no matter who you are yeah and they're really fun parts of it and they're really
horrible parts of it so it'll be really interesting when like George gets married right right so I thought that it was um confusing still and I think the Oprah interview while when it first
came out was a bombshell was a bombshell and everybody Beyonce texted her um I think it caused
irreparable damage with the family I don't know how much it changed hearts and minds I think that
they did it she said she said they did it because of everything that had happened that year.
And I think she meant more so about what everyone was saying about them that
year,
like they left the family.
And so she wanted to like clear the air,
but I think it just gave more air to,
you know,
if you want to go and be private and live your life,
go for it,
go for it.
But it's,
it's uncouth to trash the whole family.
Agreed.
And the whole country and the whole system.
No, honestly, I don't think I'm going to watch it.
And also I feel like I just watched it.
And then they had this whole thing about like hate,
the trolling and the hate that Megan was getting.
And it was so confusing.
They had this agency that like evaluated 114,000 of the tweets about Megan.
What?
Just a pool of tweets.
70% of them were hate tweets and of that
70 they were only coming from 80 accounts like 80 troll accounts and they said that um it's all
like house like white housewives these 80 women and one of them was samantha markel dead and it's
just like okay so out of all the hate that Megan gets, like, it's 80 people.
Fabulous. But I didn't understand what point they were doing. Why they're sharing that. I think that
that's good news. Yeah. And then you can, like, block those 80 accounts. And they were, like,
troll bots. Right, right, right. Why is Megan worried about bots? Like. No, that's weird. It
was really, there was, like, a whole section of that it was really fucking weird that's it was like this weird um data agency that like places like
misinformation i'm just like the fuck is this no that's beyond confusing um well thank you for your
thoughts i appreciate you and let's move on to some chrisley news because you know overall they
seem so happy yeah and the they just are home in Montecito with Megan Harry
Megan's mom and the kids and the two kids and the two dogs fabulous it seems like that's all
they've ever wanted so I hope they're happy it's a one you got yeah I hope they're happy it looks
like like just a peaceful idyllic idyllic family life stunning so I guess that's that on that. Um, so there's a lot of like, uh, custody drama going
on with the Chrisleys because Chloe's biological mom has entered the chat. So do you know who Chloe
is? Okay. So the Chrisleys have a bunch of kids and their oldest son has a daughter. Her name is
Chloe. And for the last couple of years, Todd and Julie have been raising her the mother has like
really never been in the picture but now she's wanting in because Todd and Julia Julie are going
to prison so prison bound Todd Chrisley emphasized that his adopted daughter oh so they adopted her
his adopted daughter Chloe's biological mother surrendered her rights to the 10 year old and
should not regain custody he said it's ironic that her biological mother would come forward
now that she has not been in her life since, it's ironic that her biological mother would come forward now that she
has not been in her life since 2015 and Angela Johnson surrendered her parental rights in March
of 2017 and we never heard from her again. He said that on a podcast. The former Chrisley Knows
Best star explained that he and his wife, Julie Chrisley, legally adopted Khloe, so it's up to
them to decide who gets custody of Khloe after they begin their collective 19-year prison sentences.
He continued, we're not going to discuss who that's going to be because we don't owe that to
the world. And that's our private matter. At the end of the day, Chloe's family is who Chloe has
been raised with. Her life is going to be as unaltered as it is, as it possibly can be on
what Julie and I have the ability to control. Todd continued to go off on Johnson for legally
giving up her parental rights to the child, asserting that she has no more rights to Chloe
than a stranger on the street does. Angela giving up her parental rights to the child, asserting that she has no more rights to Chloe than a stranger on the street does.
Angela Johnson literally surrendered her rights to the child. She did this in front of a judge.
The judge explained to her, you understand what you're doing. You understand that you're
surrendering the rights to your child. Todd recalled adding that Johnson denied in court
that anyone promised her anything financial, nor had anyone threatened her. Just so the record is
very, very clear, Angela Johnson has no rights to Khloe.
Her rights were terminated.
She has been legally adopted.
But ever since the sentencing came out,
she now wants custody back.
But like, who will get custody of Khloe?
What about the dad?
He has, he's troubled.
Their eldest son has,
was on the show in the beginning,
then went MIAIA he's definitely troubled
I think he struggles with like some substance abuse you think that the Chrisleys could serve
separately since they are parents technically I mean technically they can but then they'll never
see each other again yeah you know yeah I mean Savannah is somewhat of age Chase is somewhat
somewhat of age and their eldest daughter who has children probably sounds like the best option.
But like she has a very complicated relationship with the family.
She's like spoken out about them and then they were on good terms and then she's spoken out again.
So she seems like the perfect person because she actually seems like she has her head screwed on straight.
But I don't know.
Like, what do you what do you do with Chloe?
I don't know.
It's really sad. hopefully like someone I mean it sounds like her mom is stepping up but it's not that easy no and
I don't even know if I would like feel good about leaving even it is her biological mom but like
she literally gave her up yeah how old is Chloe again she is she's mad cute she is i think 10 damn 10 like one of her siblings or like half siblings
you know yeah i think chase if i recall i think maybe he's engaged so like someone who's like
settling down savannah is settled i think there's like a decent amount of options but they're young
yeah lind Lindsay the the daughter
is the best option but I don't know what her relationship is currently like because who lives
the closest to the Chris like where the Chrisley's live that way they she doesn't have to like go to
same school and stuff yeah I don't know this is really sad the Chrisley thing like the more I
think about it is like so crazy so it's like a really long sentence for a nonviolent crime. Yeah.
That's really sad.
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So earlier in the week, we were talking about the crazy news that Janelle from Sister Wives
left the family.
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And then yesterday, Mary Brown confirms her 32-year marriage to Cody is over.
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we didn't consult, we didn't talk, she just made the decision to leave. And then he says, no, I don't consider myself married to marry.
Like he just made the decision. I've never heard him say that to me. Christine and Cody announced
their split in November of 2021. So there's a lot of interesting things going on here. The first is
that one, there's only one wife left and I literally, and I feel like every time we talk
about them, I say how he's totally in love with Robin. And it feels like everything he's done in this last year has been to just be alone with
Robin.
The crazy COVID protocols, like pushing people away, pushing Mary away.
And Mary, like he was, you know, that he had to legally, Mary was his first wife.
And I always say, whenever I'm talking about them, like she's the most desperate.
And he was the only one who he was, she was the only one who he was legally married to.
Like they were married in faith to the others, but you can only be married to one person
in this country and he divorced Mary so that he could legally
marry Robin the new one so it was like he's just like time after time treated Mary so poorly Mary
also went through this like weird scandal where she was like catfishing someone like she was a
unique girl like she was going through a lot um so after all of that he's still the one divorcing
her like leaving her because they weren't even
technically married yeah and now he's alone with robin which is all that he wanted and my question
is where do we go from here on the show sister wife maybe i mean it sounds to me like this man
can't be happy with one woman so he's gonna get sick of robin he's gonna have a new hot thing
yeah then it's the cycle begins again robin will be the new Mary. Robin will be the new Mary. That's so well put.
Also, I don't watch it anymore, but this most recent season,
apparently he was awful to her,
saying the most mean things about her in his confessionals to the other wives.
And so I think a lot of people saw this divorce and was like,
oh good, she saw what he said this season and left.
She still didn't leave.
He left her.
Oh my God. Like it's it's so sorry it's pathetic yeah so regardless she's out everyone's out force her what's so
crazy though is that like they're this big blended family they have a million kids and like them
breaking up like because they're not legally married like all the women
like it literally takes a day like marriages end in years because of divorce and but they already
went through the divorce right and when they liked each other i don't know how you split up a house
or anything like that when you're not legally married and he's not legally married to any of
them now except for robin it's whoever's name the house is in i bet it's in his he's a prick
it's just it's an interesting type of divorce when literally
none of these people are actually married I'm sure that's what will be on the show oh I would
like to see a show with the new ladies like readjusting to normal life I wonder if they're
going to enter into like obviously they're going to date and stuff but do they plan on entering
into polygamous marriages again like I wonder what their pov on this experience was like would recommend or
would not recommend depends on the man cody is the man and i don't think anyone would ever want
to be married to him ever again i just can't believe like i started watching sister wives
in high school and the second i saw robin i knew i knew i hate to be right you know it's like the
time i saw little mix perform and i literally said they're gonna break up and it's gonna be
jesse's stories and it's in my list of stories because I saw them perform in like a really small intimate concert
I was like an intern
And I said
I literally said it to you
I said Jessie's gonna be the problem and this band is gonna break up
And that's exactly what happened
Sometimes I'm clairvoyant and then sometimes I'm totally off
Totally
Claudia's repeated stories there
Little Mix that's definitely one of them
Oh my god there's so many If That's definitely one of them. Oh my God.
There's so many.
So many there are.
If there's so many,
maybe there are none.
Because how can I be so repetitive?
A thousand stories.
Sorry,
I'm a storyteller.
It's what I do for a living.
I'm a storyteller.
Our fifth and final story is some casting news because where the crawdad sings star
Daisy Edgar Jones has been cast to play Carol King in the adaptation of the Broadway play
about Carol King called beautiful.
And people are like a little like upset about it.
So Daisy Edgar Jones is going from where the crowd at sing to singing as Carol King.
That is a mouthful.
The actress who's 24.
Oh my God.
I don't know why I thought she was older,
has been cast to play Carol King in an upcoming film adaptation of the
Broadway musical beautiful from Sony variety reported Thursday.
It'll be directed by Lisa Cholodenko,
who made the 2010 movie Kids Are Alright.
So people are upset because Daisy Edgar Jones is not Jewish,
and Carole King is notably Jewish.
Is she? I didn't know she was Jewish, but I also don't know her.
By the way, took the words right out of my mouth.
I believe that she's Jewish, and I believe she's an iconic Jewish jewish woman when i tell you i have literally no idea who she is like
there's that talk you gotta get from the commercials like i don't know it well enough
no the one that i think i know is i think and tell me if i'm wrong but i think taylor swift
performed at her rock and roll hall of fame induction ceremony and sang, Will you still love me tomorrow?
That sounds like Carole King
from what I've seen from the commercials.
Like lame piano vibes.
No, it's like,
You gotta get on off your feet.
That's the one.
Okay, you know what?
That's literally all I know.
Carole King songs.
I'll go to Spotify.
Like, what does she sing?
That's an amazing question.
Maybe then.
You've got a friend in me. Okay. Also where you lead. I think that's the one I just sang by Taylor
Swift. Okay. Oh no. You got to get on your feet. Will you love me tomorrow? That's the one that
Taylor sang. I think she's also really, um, famous as being a songwriter, not even a performer.
Cause she's, she wrote chains, which chains, excuse me, which is a,writer, not even a performer, because she wrote Chains, which, Chains,
excuse me,
which is a Fleetwood Mac song.
Got it.
Okay,
the song that I'm singing is,
I feel the earth move.
And that's from the beautiful commercials for the play.
Yeah,
and then you gotta get on off the earth.
That's from that.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
So she's definitely a legend.
She's just not anything like,
that we're super familiar with.
And so,
even though I typically am like a Jewess should play a Jewess,
considering I did not know she was a Jewess, I can't be that mad.
Considering she didn't know she was a Jewess, I don't fucking care.
How about that?
Let me.
But now my thing is, do they fucking look alike?
No.
Well, actually, what did a young Carole King look like?
The thing is, it's like I want to know who is managing Daisy Edgar Jones.
And I would like to become a client of theirs because she's undeniably talented but i feel
like she popped on the scene and she got like three times in a row like the most sought after
roles she got um normal people which like the book had such a cult following then she got crawdads
the book had such a cult following now she got beautiful carol king which is definitely like a
really prestigious role definitely a role a lot of people want,
especially actors.
I can see it.
I can see it, especially girls who sing.
So I just feel like-
Does she sing?
Right.
I don't know how she keeps getting these roles,
but like I need her manager.
I actually think she looks like her
with like when she has a wig on.
I'm sure she'll do a great job.
And I also just get confused
because her name is Daisy Edgar Jones
and she keeps playing the characters from books, but she's not playing Daisy Jones in the adaptation correct
yes it's Riley Keough and we actually just got the first trailer for Daisy Jones in the 60s you see
it no we also got a trailer for Barbie officially I didn't see it just came out today but I hate
making a story a trailer yeah no I know um but Daisy Jones and six is like on its way yeah it's a tv show though not a
yeah movie correct yeah we were talking about that at book club like things that have been
adapted into movies like how they take so long because um we we have it ends with us take longer
we have it happened one summer oh we were talking about eliza starts a rumor at my book club because
it's really the perfect just got picked up for a It just got picked up for a show. It just got picked up for a show on Peacock,
which I actually think it's the perfect book for a TV show.
Agreed.
But these things take so long.
Yeah.
Reese gets them out pretty quickly, though.
Reese is a machine.
Yeah.
Machine.
I don't want to end the episode like it's over.
Those were the fast five.
I know.
I could share some more of my thoughts about Harry and Meghan.
Because I only talked about the part where they left. But I just i just saw when i was looking at my notes for your stories that i had more notes
about the show which was that they started to say that the brothers offices split up right before
christmas like they had a christmas party planned and that day it turned into two parties because
that day the office split but why did their household split right before christmas like
what happened between the context like this episode this whole show alludes to the fact that like something must have
happened with the brothers because they say they lied.
No, it's like a tell-all where they tell nothing.
Right.
That's like, that's even emblematic of that story we wrote.
Here's this text, but it doesn't say what the text is.
Also, the weirdest thing that you're going to find so crazy.
So Megan was getting like a lot of really bad press and she was really struggling and
her friends were really worried about her. five of her friends went to people magazine
and did like a whole interview tell all about like how amazing megan is it wound up coming to
bite her in the ass during the daily mail i could have told you that no like when it came out it was
fine whatever that's like cringe it was so cringe i don't know if they even told her they were doing
it i imagine that they did because like if she found out you can't fuck around like that you
can't fuck around like that but then in the daily mail suit
it became a problem because in that article they they talked about that she wrote a letter to her
dad and that just became like some sort of like press thing um like making it like public right
right right oh my god but i was like these fucking friends like how is that going to help anything
you know what i did wonder i wondered what their relationship and i'm curious if they mentioned it is like now with eugenie and
jack because i felt like they were really close they never mentioned them i'm curious especially
at the beginning i feel like they really helped them like i'm curious too and i feel like they
have a lot of mutual friends and like like this to do the same stuff and i feel like they could
be friends eugenie and jack's level of like royal is exactly what harry and megan needed and i feel like they're royals but they also live like Eugenie and Jack's level of like royal is exactly what Harry and Meghan needed.
Like where they're royals,
but they also live in the real world.
No, and they get invited to like all the cool stuff,
but they don't have to like do a lot of the bullshit
and like they very much can operate
like in regular society.
And I feel like that's actually like an ideal.
And I think like growing up,
they probably felt like, you know,
like ugly stepsisters.
They were like the cousins
who like didn't get to come to this and this.
And now that they like have kids,
it's like, it's so much more normal.
It's still far from normal, but like it's it's more balanced yeah I wonder if they can still be
friends even though like you know Eugenie is still tied to the crown yeah no and it's like you
insulted Gran you made Gran's a few last years hard tough no I think they all probably feel very
defensive of Gran team Gran yeah but Eugenie's like fabulous. I actually really like her.
Yeah.
Same.
The two sisters.
Yeah.
What's the other one's name?
Beatrice.
Beatrice.
Actually, which one do I think?
I get them confused.
They look exactly alike.
I think they look nothing alike.
No, no.
They're twins.
They're literally twins.
Except the crazy thing about them is that their dad is Prince Andrew.
Like, we just don't talk about that, you know?
Yeah.
But like, they didn't do it.
No.
A hundred percent um so the episode
is not over if you're listening as a podcast enjoy our interview with olivia colpo and if
you're watching on youtube just head over to our channel and it's right underneath this video
um any final words for the year oh you know what megan um in the documentary talks about how each
year she like has a word for her year
okay and like one here it was truth and then it was peace okay what's your word for 23
I feel like this was oh for 23 yeah I thought we should give our year a word oh no it's like
an aspirational for 23 but you could sum up. Because I would sum up 22 as growth.
Oh, I have a good, that's good.
Because I feel like I'm actually, like the person I am now is actually quite different
than the person I was at the beginning of the year.
I like that.
Okay.
My word for 22 would be roots.
Bloom where you planted.
I'm putting down roots.
I like that.
Like physically, emotionally.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
And then for 2023, what do we want our word to be? Yeah. What are we aspiring towards? planted i'm putting down roots i like that like physically emotionally i love that yeah and then
for 2023 what do we want our word to be yeah what are we aspiring towards what are we looking to
bring in that's a good question it's a hard question i don't know i know
i don't know if i continued growth
um well this has been a great year for the toast we couldn't have done it without all the listeners
everyone who watches on youtube or listens as a podcast follows us on instagram we really
appreciate your continued support we hope the toast has been an important part of your year,
whether you just listen to it while you get ready,
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or it's something you really look forward to
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Whatever it is, we loved being a part of your year.
We loved having you be a part of our year.
The show would be absolutely nothing without you.
We love all you guys,
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Whatever days you're taking off enjoy them relax
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new year we love you we love you thank you all for being toasters and for watching along with us
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than others.
Of course.
You know?
So for the last
I really can't think of a bad one
but I'm sure you guys can.
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Welcome back to The Toast
The final episode of the year
Being made even more special
As if it wasn't special enough
We are joined by
honestly someone who's had such an impact on this show. You recognize me. It is the one,
the only Olivia Culpo. Welcome to the show, Olivia. Oh my gosh. Thank you guys. First of all,
I can't believe that I've had an impact on this show. I told everybody that I was doing this and
they were peeing their pants.
They are,
everybody adores you guys.
So thank you for having me.
And I adore you obviously personally,
but no,
but we're so excited.
I can't believe we haven't had you on the show yet,
but I do feel like now is the perfect time.
You have so much going on.
We have spoken about your new show a lot here at The Toast because I'm obsessed with it.
And I don't just say that like to be up your butt and stuff.
Like I think it's such a wonderful, joyful, positive show that the world needs more of.
And I think that you and your sisters are such great role models as individuals, but
also like your sisterly bond.
We are obsessed with sisters and being sisters and watching you and yours.
I just I feel like I know what your answer is going to be because I work with my sisters.
But what is it like working with your sisters in such an official capacity now?
It's oh my gosh, I can't imagine you guys have been doing it for so much longer.
It's really hard.
Like it's hard.
It's equal parts hard, but equal parts rewarding.
Obviously, there's no love that you have with you know anybody else
in the world that's like the love you have for your sister you would die for them but equal
parts you're going to call them out on every single piece of bullshit that they throw your way
um so yeah it's like it really is both bad and good and how, like, this is not so new for you.
Like, you've been around the block.
You've been around for a long time.
And I feel like being on TV is a level up.
And for your sisters, I feel like it's much more of a jump.
How are they dealing with it?
Because people can be like, you know, when you open up your lives, you're opening yourself
up to some really awful people saying awful things about you and your sisters.
How are they dealing with it?
I think they're good at it, honestly. They're good at being the bullshit. I think that it's
because we're insulated by each other in a lot of ways, because it's not even just us. We also
have my two brothers and my parents. We're one of five, so they help as well. There's really no
rock bottom when you know at least you're going to have each other at the end. So when you are dealing with the bullshit, when people are being horrible because they feel horrible themselves,
you just have to remember and keep that in mind.
And we help each other.
And you guys know because you face it too.
You've been doing this for so long.
It's like some days you wake up and you can take on the world.
And other days you wake up and somebody can tell you that you have a dead end on your hair and you want to cry. No, it's so true. So it really depends on the world and other days you wake up and somebody can tell you that like you have a dead end on your hair and you like want to cry you know no it's so true depends on the day i know so
the three of us and i'm sure it's the same with you guys like every day somebody's having a good
day or a bad day and the people the person having a good day will lift up the others and
it really is like that this weird cycle of i'll call my sister and I'll be in a really bad place about some things that I'm reading or doing or not getting.
And she'll be in a really good place and she'll remind me of the truth.
And then other times she'll be in the dark and I'll remind her of the truth, which is just that, you know, you have to just be happy to be here and doing what you have set out to do.
And like it's like the man in the arena quote.
I have it on the back of my phone.
But the Theodore Roosevelt quote.
But also, in general, it's like if you can't handle the heat,
you have to get out of the kitchen and you have to remember that
at the end of the day, it's a privilege to be able to take chances
in the way that we are in any capacity.
And you should just be proud of that and really try to think about that. And the the way that we are in any capacity. And you should just
be proud of that and really try to think about that. And the haters are going to hate no matter
what. That's a really good way of looking at it. You have had such an amazing career. I feel like
sometimes we have to remind ourselves that you came from Miss USA to start and then you've been
an influencer for so many years and an actress. And even though you for the last few years have
been sharing your life on Instagram and I feel like we get to know you so well, now being on a reality show,
you are sharing so much more. How has that transition been for you to open up yourself
like that? It's been challenging, but mostly challenging because I have a lot of, well,
for the people in my life who are not willing, who don't want to be on a reality show, like my
boyfriend, for example, like things like that have been challenging because who don't want to be on a reality show like my boyfriend for example like
things like that have been challenging because I don't want to exploit the privacy of people that
I care about by when I'm sharing my point of view so just walking that very fine line but as far as
myself I am an open book and I think this has been an opportunity that has scared me because
of the vulnerability involved in it and having to take everything up a level in the storytelling of my life. But I like that. I
actually feel like I've always been an open book in that way. And I do, I have to say I enjoy it.
It's scary. We enjoy it too. And I feel like when you think about like your favorite influencer and
thinking about them being on a reality show, oftentimes it would wind up being disappointing.
But your life and your family life and I feel like your interior life, too, it's just it's not just entertaining, but it's really like I don't know how to describe it other than like joyful and real.
Like that's how real sisters are with each other.
Like you guys are so hardworking, but you also know how to have fun and like enjoy all of the things that you've earned for yourselves thanks i i feel like that's a very
that's a very very very nice compliment and where i came from is so different from my life now i
mean i think for i'm sure for everyone it is right but it's um it's cool to be able to share people
it's cool to be able to share that with people,
especially my parents.
They're just so out of this world.
They're so sweet.
I love when they're on the show.
They give really great advice,
and also they offer such a great perspective
because it's like these two really grounding people
who come into your L.A. world,
and you realize how it's so dissimilar to the real world
for some people but I think having them there is it's a perfect formula I know it's true they
really they really are grounding they will humble you very quickly they always have a way of
reframing everything to make you feel like oh yeah this really isn't a big deal like my problems are
not as big as I think they are and it's helpful it is yeah well I'm really glad you brought up your boyfriend because I don't know
if you know like a fun fact about the toast is that we fully support the 49ers and that's because
Kyle Juszczyk and his wife are toasters and we just like love to see toasters out on the field
doing their thing and now that your man's place for the 49ers and like you're spending a lot of
time in San Fran,
it's so much better.
It's fabulous.
And I want to know what your thoughts are on San Fran.
I know it's easier for you to get there now from LA.
Yeah.
I love that you used the word fabulous.
Football is fabulous.
It's fabulous.
Football is fabulous.
It is.
I know.
I have to say I love it.
I love the 49ers.
I love the Bang Bang Niner gang. It's fun being on
a team that's winning. I have to say I mean, so true. Yeah, winning is better than losing. And
they've been doing that lately. So I'm so grateful. I'm so so happy. And the flight,
the flight is so much easier for me. The weather's easier. Everything about it is easier. People lately have been like,
you look so rested and something's different about you. It's like, oh yeah, because I'm not
getting on a five and a half hour flight every week to go to Charlotte. That truly took years
off my life. I had to do that for three years. I love Charlotte dearly and I love everybody there so much but that five and a half it's so bad that's
love I know and then when you get there your whole day is gone like I would leave at eight and I would
get there at like four because the time change yeah because when you fly west to east it sucks
you like lose your whole day you lose the whole day I would leave my house when it's dark out and
I would get there when it's dark so that's right yeah yeah
new beginnings do you feel like the reception to the show and like how well everyone is like
loving it is going to make some of the more reticent people in your life or even like maybe
people that you work with feel more comfortable joining the show I feel like we always hear that
about like Real Housewives how like in the beginning they weren't allowed to film here or there, but then like once you see how
much support it has and how beloved it is now, like everybody wants in on it.
I know that's so true. I absolutely think so. I think my boyfriend's mom will want to be on it.
That would be really funny. My boyfriend will come around.
Your content with her is so premium. Oh my God. One of the craziest things about you is that you quarantined with
your boyfriend's family for like a hundred days right with and with your sister and that you guys
didn't and that there wasn't a murder and I think that's amazing it's huge there wasn't a murder
that was an interesting time to be honest with you there was a lot of uh there was a lot of
surviving not thriving but no i love them we got
so close i feel like if you can go through a pandemic with someone you can get through anything
like going to the grocery store and feeling like okay that was that's it i'm gonna die now like
literally remember going out and just being like this is really fucking scary yeah yeah no your
content with your boyfriend's mom is so premium and i feel like not a lot of
people have that so it's really nice oh thanks yes she's a character i feel like she would be
the star of the show so i would love to see her i would love to see more of christian i think that
maybe i i agree everybody was really scared at the beginning when this show was about to come
out and i was so grateful that they actually had uh they were pleasantly
surprised that doesn't always happen and I don't see the episodes before they air so I have no
idea what's going to get out there and how it's going to be portrayed and they could spin things
in a bunch of different ways so every so anyway it was overall a good experience and I definitely
think that if there are enough maybe I can even get know, some of the other 49ers on the,
on the show.
Imagine.
I feel like,
do you know Kristen juice check?
I feel like she would love it.
I maybe would love it.
Right.
I think so.
The toast brings people together.
So we could arrange it.
Honestly.
Really?
Oh,
100.
But we would obviously have to be there.
Like we would want to be on the show too,
you know,
like we arranged this meeting
wait I can I ask you a question like more in general about your career I feel like it's been
so interesting to follow like Jackie said I feel like a lot of people don't even remember that you
really got your start and your platform from the pageant circuit and then you got more into
influencing and now reality star and I feel like I remember a shift in your content a few years ago
where you were really actively including your sisters in your content and of course we loved it because
we found it so relatable and I'm curious if that was like a conscious decision for you
or it was just like naturally like I'm with my sister so I might as well make them film with me
like oh I should probably include them my extras the back. I'm just kidding. It was 100% organic. So my older sister,
Aurora, she actually was private until like three or four years ago. So at that point,
before that point, there was actually a lot of tension between us because she thought that what
I was doing was face senseless and vain and vapid and
she was going through this whole like yogi guru I don't know this weird buddha phase yeah you know
like one of those and she was like my sister only wears crop tops and she's so into herself and all
she does is take pictures it's like okay well anyway anyway she gets it now it's not just
right in pictures it's you know building pictures. It's, you know,
building a relationship with people. And you guys understand that situation. But, um, so I, I ended
up when she got the stick out of her ass, I started doing more content around her and like,
I would just be more comfortable since then she was in the content. And then with my younger
sister, she was in college not that long ago. So I was living
in LA. She was living in Boston at college. And then when she finally got out of college,
she moved in with me. So that was around the same time. So it all kind of happened
very organically because we've always been equally close. We've always been,
I've always considered them to be like my best friends in the world. But I think, I guess in some ways, Instagram has brought us together
because we were all having so much fun sharing with people.
Because if one of them were like, I don't want to be on your Instagram,
then I don't know if, you know, this obviously wouldn't have happened
the way that it did.
But we ended up having a ton of fun together and just being,
I don't know, stupid.
I kind of would have loved to see the show, though,
like back when Aurora, you said, your words, not mine,
had the stick up her ass.
I think that would have been hilarious.
I know.
Every time it would go over to me, oh, my God,
you're in another crop top.
Why are you in another crop top?
Now all she wears is crop tops.
That's one example of when she has the stick up her ass era,
which she might not admit it, but she will.
She should.
Not her launching a war on crop tops.
Even though I fully support that movement,
I'm so over crop tops.
Some of us have big tits.
We can't just wear crop tops, you know?
Right, right.
If you have a perfect ass and you're wearing a crop top,
get out of here.
Right.
I don't have a perfect ass, by the way, so.
Some of us have jugs.
We can't just be walking around
in a bra you know okay the show is really so good I feel like this has been like a great era for you
and it's just nice to see like we've met you actually we have like a running joke on the toast
the first time we met you what year was it Jackie, Jackie? At Coachella? It was Coachella. It was our first time maybe. So maybe that was 2017, Claude.
And we met at the Port-A-Potties, right?
We did.
Classic us.
So on brand.
And we obviously were like, loved your Instagram and we loved you.
And you came over and said hi.
And we walked away and we were like, Jackie, like she came up to you.
Like she recognized me.
Recognized you. Like she recognized you.
And we just kept saying it on the show.
And now it's like a running joke on the show.
You recognize me.
And it started with you.
That's so funny.
I remember that day.
I remember the shirt I was wearing.
That's so weird.
Coachella!
I remember the shirt I was wearing too.
Are you still on the Coachella train?
Are you over it?
Honestly, I never really fully got on the train but I it gives me a lot of anxiety I like to do puzzles like at my house
I'm that kind of a person and you know I know I'm like I am such a homebody but I when I'm there I
have fun but it's like the leading up to it where I just I fear a lot like I
fear the hangovers I fear the walking I fear the walking hitchhiking that I'll have to do to leave
the you know like you just never know but um I don't know I like it I like it I'm trying to
to like it more so that I can appear and feel cooler.
It's also like an important part of your job.
Yeah. And I have to say, I brought my sisters this last year,
and it was the best Coachella I've ever had.
So that is also the other part of having them around that I really like.
It's like a security blanket.
I like having them with me wherever I go,
and that's another reason why we did the show together.
I love being with them.
It's my favorite.
They're my favorite people to be with.
Besides my dog.
We actually just had that conversation on the toast yesterday talking about how like we have the privilege of like going to like events and stuff
and our plus ones being other influencers who are also our sisters.
And it almost feels like you cheat the system
when you don't have to go to those events alone.
And like, hey, like be so,
those events can be so awkward when everyone's there by themselves and you're just
like hey i'm claudia like it's painful um so being able to have like a built-in plus one who's also
very much like in the scene and in the industry is like i feel like i'm cheating i know we are
kind of cheating and but why i don't know i've gone to so many events that have like ruined
events for me because people have been rude and i just and then of
course and then you're scared you're scared they ruined it so maybe yeah no it's like intimidating
totally yeah that's a good takeaway in general um and i think the the most relatable um storyline storyline on the show is the stealing of clothing oh my god oh yeah like like we as sisters we
actually don't fight we really don't fight for sisters like it's crazy that's the only thing
that like gets us so fired up it's so crazy what is it about stealing clothes? For me, I would let them borrow anything.
It's the, first of all, ask.
Of course, of course.
They don't ask.
And then also they, or if they wear something before I've worn it.
Because that's, I have to wear it.
So my taking your shoes was insane.
Oh, she's done the craziest shit she photoshopped photos that i don't know that
it's my bag that was crazy she took a picture in olivia's bag and she photoshopped it but like
it's clear that she got like it wasn't you know what i respect the hustle the creativity
well you know what the thing is if she texted texted me i would have
absolutely let her wear it of course the lack of confrontations anybody listening who's like
extremely non-confrontational would probably go that route but you could just send a text
yeah you could no why would you she's such a little sister she actually reminds me of our
little sister so much and one thing i noticed on the show is i feel like when she's with you guys she's like in little sister mode and then when you see her in her scenes
like on her own and with her boyfriend like she really like is a different person and I feel like
that's how I would describe our little sister like with us she's just like constantly like
getting picked on and then she goes out into the world and it's like who's that yes so true true
and then you feel bad because you feel like oh they don't want to be a
scene right now maybe that's because i'm stifling i'm stifling them that's exactly it that's exactly
it truly i know i've noticed that too and i do feel bad about that but i agree i feel like as
somebody that's just her sister watching her life it it is very interesting. And she's in the thick of it.
It's like the ugly part where she doesn't know what she's doing and why she's doing it.
And she hasn't figured out.
She hasn't figured out.
Her confidence is not there yet.
You know, that takes so much time.
And also she's doing so many new things.
So I feel like I'm really excited to see how this all irons out for her.
Because I know it's going to be really cool to watch.
And I'm going to be proud of her.
And to have it all on camera is cool because other people will be able to see a little
bit of themselves in it.
You're right.
It is such a little sister thing.
She's the snitch.
She's the snitch.
Yeah, we call our little sister the snitch.
And she's not that little either.
She's like 26.
Yeah, every time we talk about her, people think we're talking about like an eight-year-old.
And then we like show them a picture. They're like, that's literally a 25 year old woman.
That's a grown ass woman. Well, they're bratty. Like the little sisters are bratty, right?
Yeah. And by the way, Olivia, we had Emma Chamberlain on our show and Margo, our little
sister loves Emma Chamberlain. So when we wrapped the interview, we were like, Emma, like our little
sister is obsessed with you. Like, do you mind just like if she pops on the Zoom and says hi?
And Emma was like, of course.
And she was actually expecting like a toddler
to come out the way we were talking about her.
And it's like Margo, who's at the time,
she was like 24.
She was like wearing like a blazer.
And she's like, she's taller than both of us.
That's so funny.
I need to meet her.
You do.
She's so funny. Literally to meet her you do she's so funny literally she's a giant with a perfect body compared to us so congrats on the show it's so good we love to see just like you
thriving out there we can't wait for season two and thank you for coming on the toast this is
actually like a huge deal for us like a real i feel full circle moment totally they say don't podcast with your heroes but they're lying they do say that they never met
olivia copo ever i'm so proud of you guys being able to watch where how big you've blown this
thing up i mean that made no sense but you've blown this shit up you're thank you oh my god
thank you beginning so i'm so nice
very proud of you guys i love your podcast i don't understand how you talk so fast both of you
i know but you like it's great it's something we're actively working on but the thing is if
we talked any slower the episodes would be two and a half hours instead of one and a half
ah no i'm genuinely i love how fast you guys talk
it's a superpower well the good thing about podcasting is that you can make your speed
like half you could double it so there's something for everyone yeah if it's really a problem i
literally love it like gets me excited and it wakes me up and i mean it's more information in
a smaller amount of time who doesn't want that. That's what we're trying to do.
Sorry we're efficient.
We're efficient.
Like, sue us.
Yeah.
Thank you again so much for coming on.
Everyone check out the Culpo Sisters show.
It's so good.
It's on TLC.
And thank you so much for being here.
It's pleasure.
Thank you guys so much.
This is our final episode.
Wait, Olivia, before we let you go, our final episode of the year,
we are going to have you make a toast with us.
What are you toasting to in the new year?
Ooh.
Oh, my gosh.
I have to think about it.
I have a wish jar that I usually write things in and put in.
I actually, I really want to work on not bad-mouthing.
Like, I'm actually, all my friends are like,
you never talk shit about anybody.
But I want to be even better.
I don't want to have any bad thoughts
about anything and anyone.
I just want to,
I want to minimize my negativity.
Could never be me.
But I wish you the best of luck.
And that sounds amazing.
And you're better than all of us.
But we already knew that.
No.
Thank you, guys, for an amazing year.
We love you, and we will see you in 2023.
We'll see you next year.
Bye.
Bye.